suggestions-discussion

[ashen warren]

someone suggested that?

[west prairie]

we dont need all these extra swords or exotic rage/adrenaline items

and we definitely dont need joke items

this suggestion place is cancer but at least only the good ones get to the devs

they had to wade through so much shit

[dense nebula]

executioners isnt that op

[west prairie]

yeah most of the people on #suggestions-voting are idiots

[dense nebula]

sometimes

but if ur running pure calamity its alot worse cause no fargos soul so that may be because of that, which caused him to say this, this is confusing so basically fargos soul could be the reason why he thinks sp

[near crown]

no

I did some testing just now

what breaks executioners is throwing speed

[dense nebula]

yep

[near crown]

in calamity im pretty sure you cant stack enough to get a 1 frame reduction

with thorium you can

the dps numbers do check out

[dense nebula]

o

[west prairie]

so x2 dps?

[near crown]

apparently terraria cant make things shoot a fraction of a frame faster instead of rounding to the nearest frame

[west prairie]

nothing can lol

[heady comet]

Epic nerf 1000iq nerf suggestion

[west prairie]

except maybe by doing it averaged over several frames

[ashen warren]

Asks for Nerf for a weapon that isn't overpowered and doesn't specify what needs to be nerfed

[near crown]

I get 11k dps with no throwing speed on executioners

[dense nebula]

ew

[mystic wren]

avenge mode lol

[near crown]

16k with 15% throwing speed bone glove

rounding smh

that was the only difference

it has a usetime of 3

apparently that 15 throw speed was enough to push it to a usetime of TWO

thats 50% more dps

[dense nebula]

o

[near crown]

so calamity as I know it doesn't really give you throwing speed

probably to avoid scaling nonsense like this

[dense nebula]

doesnt ambrosial ampoule give u some?

[near crown]

it does?

[dense nebula]

i dont know

maybe it was mining speed

[heady comet]

Its mining speed

[dense nebula]

yeah my b im high

[near crown]

mining speed

Are there any sources of throwing speed in calamari

calamity

[tired haven]

Nothing in calamity gives throwing speed

[dense nebula]

c a l a m a r i

[near crown]

there you have it

throwing speed breaks calamity throwing

[bitter topaz]

ok, so does this look like a decent suggestion for a "suggestions" role to counter the stupidity of recent suggestions like "nerf executioners blade"?

[near crown]

drops mic

[tired haven]

Throwing velocity is a bit different

[bitter topaz]

due to myriad of low quality suggestions recently e.g, 3 seperate "bring back LORDE" suggestions the past 2 weeks, or 2 seperate boss suggestions in the same timeframe , i honestly feel like we need something along the lines of a "bootleg cooldudes" to quash it, maybe make it a role any mod can give you if they think you're not a complete idiot and won't put in a stupid suggestion, pretty much directly like a bootleg cooldudes actually since only 1 mod has to find you tolerable rather than the entire staff team. starring could also be moved to this "bootleg cooldudes" role or kept as just a cooldudes thing. either would work really.

tl;dr a new role to stop the garbage suggestions along the lines of an easier to get cooldudes.

[near crown]

velocity is how fast the thing you throw goes

speed is how many things you throw in a second

[tired haven]

Yep

[dense nebula]

thats good

[ashen warren]

I like that suggestion @bitter topaz

[bitter topaz]

thanks,

[dense nebula]

i dont post many suggestions so i dont actually really care if im not a bootleg cooldude

cause im not creative

[wild venture]

Idc about ranks, I just want my ideas to be shared.

[ashen warren]

Same

[tired haven]

Bootleg cooldudes seems reliable to a tad bit too much people so giving out them would become an annoyance

[heady comet]

Yo i wanna be a bootleg cooldude

[dense nebula]

lowkey somewhat cooldude

[wild venture]

I'm already cool

[dense nebula]

bruh just call it that

[ashen warren]

I'm not

[wild venture]

[dense nebula]

[bitter topaz]

the "bootleg cooldudes" is how it would be given out, not a name, it'd most likely just be "suggestor" or something like that

[dense nebula]

So how would u earn it?

[bitter topaz]

since cooldudes is "the staff team likes you" iirc

[west prairie]

i just want the endless flow of shit trapped behind a hoover dam of roles

[ashen warren]

Could be called "fucking loser" for all I care

[wild venture]

I'm already a fucking loser

[tired haven]

"Possessed fan"

[ashen warren]

Whatever helps the suggestions not be trash

[dense nebula]

[ashen warren]

not saying they're all trash but some of them are

[dense nebula]

some

[wild venture]

I think no matter the suggestion they should be at least seen, it allows trash ones to inspire better ideas

Not saying they should get stars but should be looked at

[bitter topaz]

you haven't seen the last two weeks have you?

[wild venture]

Nope

[bitter topaz]

we've had 3 LORDE suggestions

[ashen warren]

[bitter topaz]

fucking 3

[wild venture]

[bitter topaz]

2 other boss suggestions

[dense nebula]

i think ive seen a suggestion where someone thought calamitas was the final boss

[ashen warren]

[dense nebula]

[bitter topaz]

and a myriad of other garbage like add thanos and :dab:

[ashen warren]

I've seen a few of those

[dense nebula]

yo if we add thanos that would actually be a pretty cool boss fight imo

[west prairie]

you mean the fortnite guy?

[dense nebula]

yea the guy from fortnite

[ashen warren]

make your own mod if you want thanos

[wild venture]

This does put a smile on my face

Throwing is where it's at

[dense nebula]

no mage is

[wild venture]

Throwing and Mage, Ranger is too op and Melee is boreing

[ashen warren]

That suggestion is gonna get 35 stars fast

[tired haven]

and summoner is forgotten

[wild venture]

Also my computer is a potato, so ranger is booboo

[dense nebula]

lmao

[wild venture]

Summoner never existed in calamity imo

[west prairie]

problem tho: idiots and preteens who want the role will whine endlessly to get it

[tired haven]

Melee is Mage+Thrower amalgamation lel

[bitter topaz]

cooldudes is a trusted role iirc

[west prairie]

this will annoy the mods to no end

[ashen warren]

If they whine for it they'll probably get warned

[wild venture]

I need more throwing weapons in calamity

[west prairie]

yeah but that stops maybe one person

[bitter topaz]

so the "bootleg" aspect means it only has to be 1 mod instead of a bunch of 'em trusting you to not be a dunce

[west prairie]

people come in constantly

[bitter topaz]

and you've probably recieve a warn if you asked to get it constantly

[wild venture]

Seems more like how a trial mod works compared to an actually mod

[bitter topaz]

since you'd probably be murdered for spam pinging

[ashen warren]

had trouble making my suggestion as i forgot how to do line returns in discord.

[west prairie]

im saying the steady flow of new users will be a steady flow of new people to warn

[dense nebula]

o MA gOD if u DoENT giv rol in 21 Succonds i will REPORT Ymy dad works for microsoft

[dense girder]

rip bidoof

[west prairie]

itll be another big annoyance for the mods

[dense girder]

you got danned

[bitter topaz]

fair enough then

[ashen warren]

I wonder what goes well with cursed flames

[dense girder]

cursed flames

[dense nebula]

Wtf danny

he just did a NO

[ashen warren]

I mean a beneficial debuff for you.

[dense girder]

danny's word is law

[dense nebula]

LMAO

[ashen warren]

Like I just did ichor + midas + on fire

[bitter topaz]

@candid dove just curious on the specifics of why this is a bad suggestion

[dense girder]

another role

[ashen warren]

But cursed flames + ??? + ???

[west prairie]

the problems i outlined

[dense nebula]

danny has mega mean

[dense girder]

cursed flames + ichor + electrified

[west prairie]

probably

[candid dove]

I'm not limiting suggestions to a specific role, as there's no way to properly decide who deserves the role

Plus, we'd have to continously look for people who deserve this role, so no

[bitter topaz]

fair enough then,

i didn't really consider that tbh

[dense nebula]

fair argument

[west prairie]

can we instead just bar people who make constatnly shit suggestions

[dense nebula]

^

[candid dove]

People who make meme suggestions get a warn, mute or ban respectively already.

[west prairie]

we have a notable repeat offender with equal parts poor english and design

just

daily

[candid dove]

Who?

[heady comet]

Rip trashbox bobylev

[brave warren]

the sponge bob

[dense nebula]

lol trashbox?

hes suggesting the world at this point ive seen so much by him

[ashen warren]

Ok how about something green themed?

[wild venture]

True he has posted alot

[heady comet]

Tbh he can probably make russian knockoff calamity now

[tired haven]

He didn't deserve these accusations tbh
It's more of wrong interpretations rather than immaturity

[signal ibex]

Does

PBG

have a throwing weapon

[dense nebula]

yea

[signal ibex]

already

[heady comet]

Malachite

[signal ibex]

Thats a legendary

not a ordinary

[ashen warren]

why are you spacing out your messages

[tired haven]

[dense nebula]

why

are

you

typing

like

this

[candid dove]

I wouldn't consider them meme suggestions, he's actually suggesting stuff, so he's fine.

[dense nebula]

shit now im getting warned

[signal ibex]

Who got muted this time.*

[ashen warren]

cursed inferno + Dryad's + Plague?

[tired haven]

Guess rip plague disk, 35+ stars but no one cares

[wild venture]

[dense nebula]

[ashen warren]

Something like Dryad's Bad Hair Day?

"Something must have made her this angry to inflict all these debuffs."

[tired haven]

Honestly if there was any kind of indication which ideas made it in mod plans, there would be nice example of development work and quality of suggestions is likely to rise

Rn there is no incestive to flesh out idea since no one knows if it even matters

[ashen warren]

Bidoof when you made that suggestion I misinterpreted it and thought that you were referring to like a suggestions moderator

I would name it Dryad's PMS but...

[bitter topaz]

since danny said no i should delete it actually just so it doesn't rise to the dev channel by accident

[ashen warren]

Like how she acts in blood moon. Just saying.

Probably for the best @bitter topaz

what should I call you btw? does bidoof work fine?

[bitter topaz]

ye it does

it's what i normally get called online anyway

[ashen warren]

Good cause I don't want to ping you all the time

[candid dove]

That wouldn't make it to the dev server

It's unrelated to actual development

[bitter topaz]

oh does the bot filter it out?

afaik it all gets forwarded to a "development suggestions server"

[ashen warren]

hmm maybe make it require something from old man's army as a reference to her corrupted form?

And it may be one of the best tomes to use up to mood lord as Dryad's Bane will get stronger the more (unique) bosses you kill.

[vague olive]

I think 5 lucky coins is a bit much

[ashen warren]

you can spam a pirate farm i do it all the time.

3 maybe?

plague canisters is only post golem right?

seeing if i did that right.

no idea how many bosses it should be capped at for dryad's bane.

as that can get OP pretty fast!

[vague olive]

I think 1 lucky coin is enough tbh

Yeah plague canisters are post golem

[ashen warren]

https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Dryad's_Blessing That is really powerful!

It could be one of the best weapons in the mod if approved.

If the buff includes calamity bosses.

[sleek wigeon]

Bosses generally use an "immune to every but xyz" system

[ashen warren]

I mean how it increases in power.

I don't think anything is immune to dryad in vanilla.

But you can't really move her easily around either, takes a lot of work to set up a queen statue and hope she is the one you teleport into your arena.

[earnest raptor]

And dryad maybe die.

[ashen warren]

Its why I thought up a magic tome with he effect.

but it can get insanely powerful

even with every vanilla boss kill but moon lord going into it, the debuff on enemies and the buff on you combined is very good.

especially on expert.

[tired haven]

By itself this effect is weak honestly
Would have to replace with much more powerful analogue

(Which would reach elemental mix power at like postgolem)

[ashen warren]

what if all the added bosses count into it scaling?

I just can't think of any other debuffs that help you as well.

like buff you as well as debuff enemies.

"The life draining effect will increase if you defeat more bosses in the world, each pre-hardmode boss (except King Slime) will increase its damage by 10%, the Wall of Flesh will increase it by 40% and each Hardmode boss (except the Moon Lord and event bosses) will increase it by 15%. In addition, its damage will also be increased by 50% if in expert mode (as well as the damage caused by the buff being multiplied with the damage increase from newly defeated bosses instead of added). So, if you have all bosses defeated, the damage will be increase to about 10 HP/s (or 16 HP/s in expert mode). "

_>

[tired haven]

Ugh it's not viable like at all

Frostburn is 16 hp/s

[ashen warren]

even with 13 more bosses pre-hardmode?

[tired haven]

And is inflicted by dang prehm arrows

[ashen warren]

170% gain pre hardmode Calamity vs 40% vanilla (10 % per boss-- crimson/corruption bosses mutually exclusive I'd expect)

then wall of flesh 210%

16 hard mode bosses (Calamity) so 240% increase in scaling.

450% + 50% expert

500% gain in power over course of the game for that one buff.

so more like 20+ a second in our mod?

Guess its too unwieldy.

huh its still just 16.5 a second unless my math is wrong.

If Post moon Lord bosses count (@20% Per boss), it may be viable.

[versed grotto]

@earnest raptor ur suggestion for otherworldy eye doesn't have cursed flames for recipe

[ashen warren]

I think it would be 59.4/s life steal with my proposed weapon if every boss but Moon lord and Scal (and a 50% bonus for Rev mode on) is included in scaling.

I wanted more scythes

How can I make the Technology Horror better

Wow

Biome Blade

[signal ibex]

Star

CV's

SUGGESTION

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ashen warren]

Chill out

Love how my suggestion was buried

[versed grotto]

star leanfrog's suggestion or i meme

[ashen warren]

If the cool dudes don't want to star it they don't have to

[versed grotto]

me cri

[ashen warren]

Toby is correct

Smh

[opal barn]

We don't need a RoD upgrade lmao

[bitter topaz]

@signal ibex a RoD upgrade no matter what is going to be OP as shit

[restive karma]

Even if we did, 7 is a bit too much

[opal barn]

RoD is OP as shit as it is

[ashen warren]

Jeez that really op

[crude quartz]

RoD upgrade

[hollow shell]

7?

[sleek wadi]

One, 7 times? This would only be okay if the teleport distance was restricted so heavily that you could only get past 3 block thick walls and had a slow use time to prevent spam maybe. 2, if a RoD upgrade did happen post-astrum is not the place to put it. You'd place one post-ML

[ashen warren]

You would be spamming just to teleport 40 blocks

[ancient dragon]

Dunno what you guys are on about, that's a god-tier suggestion.

[heady comet]

hahaues

[ashen warren]

How’s Technologies Horror?

[versed grotto]

guys how about a rod upgrade that lets you teleport 2 times

but instead of chaos state it gives you 7 hours of no u debuff

[ashen warren]

Shut

[heady comet]

Nice meme

[west prairie]

bad name for an item, we already have a sickle at that tier

[ashen warren]

;-;

Wait

[sleek wadi]

Can you get Cursed Flames in a Crimson world and vice versa?

[ashen warren]

Yes, I think

[bitter topaz]

yes, because the evil island exists

[heady comet]

Most of these suggestions are weapons lol

[sleek wadi]

I guess you could move the island underground so the recipe is fine.

[ashen warren]

Nah

You can do the manual work

[sleek wadi]

I asked because if a recipe requires more than one world to complete it's a shit recipe

[earnest raptor]

@versed grotto i'm initially not want include Cursed Flames, because Ruin reference ideally fits with Crimson, but not Corruption.

@sleek wadi it's bad?

[ashen warren]

Starbound Reference?!

[earnest raptor]

Fleshy eye, laser, yellow color...

You not mean about it?

[barren rain]

Seven times? That's kind of op...two would be reasonable

[near crown]

An interesting item would make you teleport every X seconds, whether you want to or not

say, every 5 seconds for 1 min on activation

[ashen warren]

So essentially, the Teleportation Potion in an accessory

[near crown]

to cursor

no

[opal barn]

That actually is interesting

[near crown]

you activate it and you go teleporting without being able to cancel

so if you screw up with it, worst case you tp into an infernado

would have less time between tps than rod

[west prairie]

suicide potion

[near crown]

no

if you pay attention, it would be godly for nohitters as described I think

[versed grotto]

aiming to scal

le sudden rod tp

[near crown]

if you dont and your cursor's on the boss.....

[versed grotto]

boom scal vores u

[near crown]

it's every X seconds

you deserve it if you lose track

[versed grotto]

imagine doing it in nohits

[near crown]

so like potion- 5 sec - tp- 5 sec - tp - etc

[ancient dragon]

Yes indeed thank you.

[night cradle]

?

[near crown]

oops didnt sumbit it right

editin now

oh nice

so swapping channels eats your edit

[bitter topaz]

[signal ibex]

Hon

hon

I freakin made a simple upgrade

[ancient dragon]

Nice sumbission.

[signal ibex]

and got praise for it

[near crown]

done

wait arent suggestions supposed to be starred by bots

[opal barn]

No, they are starred by cool dudes

[near crown]

that's new

[opal barn]

It never was starred by bots

[signal ibex]

Why cant you post pictures in the general talk channel

[opal barn]

To avoid meme spamming

[ancient dragon]

Wrong channel, also that.

[bitter topaz]

^

[signal ibex]

Oh

[sinful violet]

Because memers

[signal ibex]

Okie

Thanks.

[lament turret]

@near crown So, your potion idea is nice

Except that it's kinda broken with Summoner

Since they don't have to aim and all that

[near crown]

Oh my, Sommoner slipped my mind

Oh well summoner is trash lategame so 🤷

[pulsar notch]

teleport without any eidolon wyrms showing up in the Abyss

[lament turret]

Also that

That's probably another huge thing

Also, Summoner isn't trash Lategame.

It makes SCal negligibly easy

[night cradle]

Summoner slipped my Hive Mind

[lament turret]

And is actually decent against most post ML bosses

[ashen warren]

summoner is insane post ml

[lament turret]

Except for Yharon

3fast5him

[ashen warren]

post phase one

baby yharons are

[ancient dragon]

Yes and yes.
It'd be both too hard and bad.

[hollow shell]

@lunar dirge That was the original plan, but it was too hard to balance

[ashen warren]

that sounds like not fun at all

[hollow shell]

They were not designed to be fought at the same time
upon
their original conception

[bitter topaz]

tbh having it as a togglable thing would be nice

[lunar dirge]

o

[bitter topaz]

but yeah it'd be painful as shit normally

[ashen warren]

hm

[lunar dirge]

Well i only play calamity for a week-2weeks but yeah would be bad and hard as how alexis said it

[ashen warren]

maybe a death only thing would maybe make sense ?

but still

thats hard as shit lmao

[hollow shell]

That'd make sense

[lunar dirge]

Nohittingthat in deathmode would be hard

It was meant for deathmode only, jist forgot to mention

[bitter topaz]

DoG needs some challenge when it comes to nohitting though

[hollow shell]

You should edit it as such

[bitter topaz]

he's still not that hard afaik

[ashen warren]

dog currently is one of the easier calamity bosses imo

[lunar dirge]

Untill now, the hardest boss imo was providence

I've just beaten dog

[crude quartz]

Prov's a good challenge ye

[ashen warren]

Yharon can get shredded by the Minigun

[vague olive]

Since when

[tired haven]

Bad part about multi sentinels fight is that they cover each others' strats and leave you forced to take a hit

[heady comet]

@ashen warren explain

[ashen warren]

Well, I tested the Minigun on Yharon one time, and it took me 2-4 minutes, with a laggy computer, and no attempt to no hit, to wreck phase 1

[vague olive]

Also why are we talking about this in suggestions discussion

[ashen warren]

Idk

[ancient dragon]

@sharp isle No.

[dense nebula]

#general-talk pretty much is a meme channel and it’s also a dumb idea no offense

[sharp isle]

How do you guys live without a meme channel jesus

[ashen warren]

last time offtopic existed it was a huge mistake, from what i've heard

[ancient dragon]

We used to have a meme channel but it got fucking killed.
It'll stay dead.

[cyan lagoon]

no

[ancient dragon]

You can also get warned for suggesting a meme channel, so.

[sharp isle]

I ll make it alive by sending all of mu memes

Okai

My*

[dense nebula]

the staff would have to implement more rules along with having to actively search for any violations

[elder sparrow]

general talk is a meme channel therefore it is useless and this discord will only allow talk dedicated to calamity

ok that's stupid

[dense nebula]

There’s literally meme servers around the world please join them instead

[elder sparrow]

still better to have a general talk

[sharp isle]

Kill me

[ancient dragon]

General talk is just that. General talk.
Yes people meme in there, but there's no dumb image spam anymore so it's easier on the eyes.

[dense nebula]

^

[ashen warren]

Plus there’s no need for meme channel

TPA already is meme server

[signal ibex]

Dont you mean the art server?

Hm.

cursed flames has potential

[ashen warren]

Terraria Pixel Art Server

[signal ibex]

Oh oki

[ashen warren]

:|

[neon panther]

@near crown also, you could make the debuff cause eidolon wyrms to spawn in the abyss, the same way chaos state does

[white laurel]

@sharp isle No

[sharp isle]

Yes

[white laurel]

There have been previous meme channels that went terrribly, there will not be any more

[brave warren]

No

[sharp isle]

K lol

Sry

[dense nebula]

if we brought back meme channel better rename the discord to hell internally

[ashen warren]

discord is already hell internally

at least if you use light theme

light theme is like staring at the sun for an hour straight and then never blinking for the rest of your life

overloaded sludge has had the same sprite for almost 2 years now lmao

it could use a little love tbh

[ancient dragon]

@sharp isle Stop making joke suggestions.

[sharp isle]

Its no joke

Im serious mate

[ancient dragon]

Right then. @hybrid cipher

[hollow shell]

Boi don't get yourself warned

[cyan lagoon]

@sharp isle warned for making dumb suggestions, don't do that.

[sharp isle]

Cmon this is no dumb im serious jeez

[sleek wadi]

How many zeroes was that anyway

[hybrid cipher]

???

[ashen warren]

what was the suggestion

[ancient dragon]

No, you're not. The reward is bad and the HP value went way past the integer limit.

[hybrid cipher]

what happened

[fervent zealot]

meme suggestionmaker did

[hybrid cipher]

what was the suggestion

[hollow shell]

yeah that

[ashen warren]

lmao

10k dps

[sharp isle]

Ahhhhhhhhhh kill me

[upper zinc]

also what if Yharim was regular sprite sized? What's the current smallest bosses? It'd be a neat change of pace.

[hybrid cipher]

can't tell if bad trolling, genuinely stupid or exaggeration

[hollow shell]

Yeah Yharim's gonna be regular size

[upper zinc]

O h

[ancient dragon]

Yharim's going to be slightly taller than the player.

[hybrid cipher]

either way you should've known not to make a badly thought suggestion

[upper zinc]

I didn't know, my bad

Neat tho

[sleek wadi]

That's 17 zeroes

[sharp isle]

Thats my suggestion and im serious but you guys dont take me serious

[ashen warren]

reminds me of the void circle from ultraconyx

[ancient dragon]

It's quite literally impossible to take that seriously. Now stop trying to argue.

[sleek wadi]

Or 100 quintillion. Literally impossible due to integer limits.

[ancient dragon]

Yes, that.

[ashen warren]

void circle i think has the maximum possible health possible

[sharp isle]

Well it is possible if you lower the zeroes

[ancient dragon]

Its health value was the integer, yes.

[ashen warren]

also

check

the pins

[cyan lagoon]

plus it would have been instantly denied for being a boss suggestion

[ancient dragon]

^

[crude quartz]

get juiced

[ashen warren]

lmao

10k dps ....

whatta meme

[sharp isle]

Kill me

[upper zinc]

Which is why I mentioned it in here

totally a different emote btw

[sharp isle]

Endure me new here i joined like 3 days ago

Im*

[upper zinc]

anyways

[ancient dragon]

Not an excuse to ignore rules.

[sharp isle]

Its my suggestion i didnt break a rule

Or did i

[fervent zealot]

yes you did

[ancient dragon]

You broke several suggestion rules.

[ashen warren]

you broke two

[fervent zealot]

no meme suggestions

[sharp isle]

Lmao

[ashen warren]

no boss suggestions

[upper zinc]

Oh and they're kinda joking on you because ten thousand DPS is not a lot @sharp isle

[fervent zealot]

10k is like, what i reach in my sleep

[sharp isle]

Told u im new

[ashen warren]

you have 10k dps by right after moonlord

[upper zinc]

Many vanilla items can hit that, much less modded ones

yeah you can hit 10k easy with lunar flare

[ashen warren]

against destroyer lol

[sharp isle]

Can we end the subject i feel embarrassed

[upper zinc]

cute tsu btw

🐸

[sharp isle]

Thx

[hollow shell]

read JrTighe's pin in #suggestions-voting for the rules on suggesting

[sharp isle]

Ok

[cyan lagoon]

elaborate @ivory gull

[ivory gull]

bigger

better

uhh

cooler

[ancient dragon]

That's vague.

[cyan lagoon]

we can't go off much if it's just "upgraded version of (item)"

[ancient dragon]

Make a concise suggestion, not just 'oh upgrade for this'.

[hollow shell]

Yeah, give some crafting ingredients
the tier it'll appear at
and such

[ivory gull]

:C sorry

[ancient dragon]

Mhm.

It's okay.

[sharp isle]

Yeletes more like YEETles

[ancient dragon]

Don't meme in here.

[sharp isle]

Sorry

[ashen warren]

that wasnt even funny

[upper zinc]

you're already on thin ice ms applejack

[neon panther]

yes

bumblebirb pet = yes

[ancient dragon]

Give it an actual method of being obtained that isn't hyperbolic. As of right now, it sounds like a meme suggestion.

Though I don't remember what the stance is on pets.

I'll just ask @sinful violet.

[cyan lagoon]

Afaik pets are almost all dev/reward items

Only one that isnt is young siren

[crude quartz]

oh yeah I have to bug mrrperishable night too

about a thing

[sinful violet]

Uhh

Pets, iirc, are only added as a reward/dev item or if they’re needed.

Like the sirens light effect

Which technically is also a light pet, so it’s not really a pet

[crude quartz]

@cunning moss there's an option for that already ingame

[cunning moss]

@crude quartz Okay.

[sinful violet]

[cunning moss]

(I'm happy no one recognizes me)

[sinful violet]

We do.

[ancient dragon]

[cunning moss]

@sinful violet

[ancient dragon]

How many TF2 sentry reference suggestions have we had this past week alone?

@cunning moss Nice one, mate.

[fervent zealot]

actually why

we don't need minis in fuckin terraria

[upper zinc]

DEET DEET DEET DEET DEET

[crude quartz]

titanium setbonus in an accessory

[ancient dragon]

I remember when Fargo did that.

[violet talon]

^

[digital saddle]

It's 2s of invincibility every 30 seconds

And it's post golem

Not that insane

[crude quartz]

titanium setbonus
not insane
please pick one

[ancient dragon]

I-
It's a dodge.

It's a guaranteed fuckin' dodge.

[digital saddle]

Counter scarf is a dodge every 15 seconds

,

[lucid marsh]

Hell they could buff it and it would be fair for an accessory slot. Make it every 15 seconds or make it last for 4 seconds

[crude quartz]

its a dash

[upper zinc]

that's a weird looking hallow night

[crude quartz]

not a passive effect

[lucid marsh]

Yeah that’s true

[quiet abyss]

Counter Scarf also likes to dodge something that's not hostile to you

[crude quartz]

that too

[quiet abyss]

Making its dodge a bit luck based

[lucid marsh]

Yes someone on art server made it for me

[digital saddle]

Well that's just a bug

[lucid marsh]

Anyways yeah titanium set bonus is balanced, albeit barely

[crude quartz]

titanium setbonus
balanced

pick one

[lucid marsh]

I didn’t say it’s extremely well balanced, but it’s balanced enough

[quiet abyss]

Titanium set bonus, in my honest opinion is skirting on the line of balance, and overpowered/cheesy.

[neon panther]

titanium setbonus
balanced
balanced titanium setbonus because post-golem

[crude quartz]

it went from unbalanced to still unbalanced when they tried to fucking balance it

[digital saddle]

Titanium is so fucking overrated lol
It's really good
But it's not as insane as u guys aay

[lucid marsh]

Agreed

[ancient dragon]

Titanium's set bonus is only balanced after the point you can get it because it's basically a trade-off of defense in exchange for a guaranteed dodge.

[lucid marsh]

Better than hallowed armor but not as good as chlorophyte

[ancient dragon]

Because the armor itself is good as hell on its own right. The dodge makes it busted.

Having that without the penalty of low defense is completely retarded.

[digital saddle]

It takes an accessory slot

[ancient dragon]

That's barely an argument until the very end of the game with all the superaccessories.

[digital saddle]

You could make the recipe call for luminite

So it's post ml

[neon panther]

Since it's "so op," he could add some galactic singularities to boost it to post-cultist, but I don't think it's too op as of now. It's a good accessory for sure, but not completely broken

[digital saddle]

But I don't think it would be that broken

[crude quartz]

oh it really is

[lucid marsh]

How about this. We balance it by making it RNG based

And make it a hollow knight reference at the same time

[crude quartz]

reminder that titanium armor + fetid (I can't spell it) + a lotta melee speed accessories can carry you all the fucking way through hardmode

[lucid marsh]

I’ll post a suggestion in a sec

[crude quartz]

also no xb

[lucid marsh]

Carefree melody the mediocre charm

[quiet abyss]

Making it RNG based will kinda kill its purpose.
Cause what accs that rely on RNG are ever good?
(stares at arcanum of the void and astral arcanum)

[lucid marsh]

Y not tho

[digital saddle]

Fetid is busted though
It's not just titanium it has absurd dps for a early hm weapon

[lucid marsh]

30% chance to dodge an attack

[crude quartz]

titanium's setbonus makes fetid insanely viable

[digital saddle]

You don't even need titanium to facetank plant with it

[neon panther]

make it 60s cooldown instead of 30s cooldown maybe?

[lucid marsh]

Wait that’s just a broken version of the ninja belt

[crude quartz]

you want it if you're gonna fuck up ML with it

[lucid marsh]

Nevermind

[quiet abyss]

If you want to balanced the titanium heart acc, give it a longer cool down than titanium armor's set bnous.
SImple

[crude quartz]

far longer

[neon panther]

@hazy heath

[lucid marsh]

Ok but maybe make the buff itself last an extra second? To make up for weapons that have slow attack speed like snipers

[digital saddle]

the buff lasts like 30 seconds already

lol

[lucid marsh]

Wait oh right I thought it was 2 seconds

Yeah that’s balanced

[neon panther]

2 seconds is the invulnerability time

[hardy wing]

meme titanium discussion

if thats op then what is

anything ive made in the last few weeks

[ancient dragon]

You've just unleashed your hidden potential, Fargo. You're far beyond us frail, underpowered mortals.

[cobalt ferry]

What about the paladium emblem

That should have a 1 second effect tbh

[neon panther]

?

[signal ibex]

Nani

[neon panther]

Why the dps cap on most of your suggestions btw?

[signal ibex]

Because

BALANCE

[neon panther]

fab doesn’t like dps caps iirc

[signal ibex]

Oh

oooh

okie

[heady comet]

Fab can also balance himself iirc

[neon panther]

@dapper cipher delete message in suggestions

no messages in there except suggestions

[ancient dragon]

Oh how ironic that they comment on someone reading pins but doesn't read pins themselves.

[crude quartz]

what a meme

[ancient dragon]

I love people.

[quiet abyss]

@dapper cipher Oi no talking in #suggestions-voting

[neon panther]

@dapper cipher you gotta remove that or we’ll have to ping a mod to do it for you and leave you with a warn :/

[ancient dragon]

three pings
no response

Also pet items are only given as rewards for nohitters.

[neon panther]

@worthy raptor sorry to disturb you, but can you help us out here?

[ancient dragon]

I'm not sorry, y'suck. >:C

[dapper cipher]

._.

[west prairie]

He deleted it

I got his attention

[neon panther]

ah ok

[west prairie]

Close call

[neon panther]

sorry lompl he did it himself but still warn him

[vernal sphinx]

Every projectile weapon suggestion:

"On contact, the projectile explodes"

[signal ibex]

Accurate

[junior geode]

Very Accurate but me nah

[signal ibex]

says the one who freakin does that all the time

Which is me

[junior geode]

Oof if you search the first time I posted the Post-Polterghast Eidolist it had 37 people who agreed

[signal ibex]

I had my plague bomb idea

.

nvm

[neon panther]

Most of my suggestions get high ratings, but I’ve had a few that were too far fetched and most people just didnt like em

[signal ibex]

Damn the martian moons

got em

I got the most far fetched idea

[junior geode]

Still tho we need better Eidolist to make the Abyss more dangerous cause I feel like it's just a joke

Atm

[sleek wigeon]

Isnt that like the point of all the other abyss enemies?

the reaper sharks, the actual eidolion worms?

[junior geode]

With end game gear they still are a joke to me tbh

[ancient dragon]

endgame gear
They're post-Polterghast, and exo-tier is leagues above any other.

[junior geode]

Tho don't forget the Null Eidolist Variant

[neon panther]

joke
literally 1 million health and 99.99% DR

[junior geode]

The Null Eidolist in my idea is suppose to be a counter to most endgame gear by disabling all accessories and the abilities of most endgame Armor

[ancient dragon]

B-
But why though?

[junior geode]

To make the Abyss more of a hazard than it is now

[ancient dragon]

It doesn't need to be.

[sleek wigeon]

litterally the most hazardous biome in the game at all stages

[ancient dragon]

You'll go there for one post-ML fight and that's it.

[neon panther]

Also can we like, add a pin to not suggest pets, since they are reserved for devs and rewards? I’m noticing a few pets popping up now

[ancient dragon]

@worthy raptor Mom?

[heady comet]

[worthy raptor]

o

[sleek wigeon]

Pets arent nessacarily reserved for devs and rewards. Its just fabsol hates vanity items

so they are very unlikely

[night cradle]

My Perforator light pet pls

[heady comet]

Lompl hasnt even gotten his nohit item in yet smh

[junior geode]

I like the concept of the abyss yet after everything is done for it, its just there with nothing really added after that

[neon panther]

That could be something too. “Unless you code and sprite it yourself, vanity items almost always will not be accepted” or something

[junior geode]

And the fact the outer walls are just flat also give me severe ocd

[neon panther]

I mean

you need it until after polter

that’s from skeletron to polter

it’s used more than the underworld, jungle temple, or dungeon tbh

[ancient dragon]

I honestly like how the guide puts it. They're 'trips', as in you go deeper and deeper with each returning trip thanks to your newfound powers elsewhere, with the motivation always being the gear within that'll help you at hard points in the game.

Once you reach the bottom though, there's really nothing else.

[neon panther]

I went down to layer 4 pre-plant

[ancient dragon]

Shut fuck.

[neon panther]

didn’t last long

But yeah

[ashen warren]

I went to layer 1 and 2 as it was still loading water.

[neon panther]

when you get the bottom, you’ve reached the bottom, there’s nothing else

[ashen warren]

got a few layer 1 chests early.

[junior geode]

Tbh the only thing I care more than the abyss is how They will work out the Npc Calamitas's Personality

[upper zinc]

I only went down to get the valediction and flak kraken

[ancient dragon]

...How?

[sleek wigeon]

dont you need shadow keys for those?

[ashen warren]

as i keep a key on me at all times.

[sleek wigeon]

then its not early

[neon panther]

So you didn’t get them early lol

[ancient dragon]

Then that's not 'early', is it?

[sleek wigeon]

your meant to get them a bit post skeletron

[neon panther]

or you cheated a shadow key in

in which case, you uh, cheated

[ashen warren]

I had to re make my world remember?

[sleek wigeon]

still its not "early"

[ashen warren]

wouldn't it start to kill me by layer 1?

[sleek wigeon]

nah fam

Post skeletron is the tier to dive into the abyss

diving past the holy fuck sulpherous sea

which is evil and mauler sharks :(

[neon panther]

maulers are hella rare pre-hm though

[ashen warren]

technically my gear level is vanilla Plantera-Golem

[neon panther]

then it’s not early

[sleek wigeon]

then its way too late for abyss

smh

[ashen warren]

but its my first time calamity.

[sleek wigeon]

you'll want level 2 abyss loot at that point. lumenyll and depth cells

which are bascially the same thing

[ashen warren]

So no idea what to expect-- probably will breeze through most of it until getting back to hard mode

Just make all the stuff even if too weak for me for collection list mod

[sleek wigeon]

If its your first time in calamity start fresh

new world new character. theres like 5 bosses prehm

[ashen warren]

I'm doing the mod more for the QOL gear

[sleek wigeon]

wha?

[ashen warren]

to get up to post moon

Like I want that boots that lets me ditch wings

[sleek wigeon]

thats not qol, thats just powerful things

[earnest raptor]

Ballistic Poison Bomb..

[ashen warren]

yeah but I hate having to have wings and boots take two slots. Also lava waders being combinable is nice.

[neon panther]

Tbh having wings and boots take up two slots is balanced, until post-ml where you kinda start to need more accessories, but luckily calamity adds just that when you get there

[ashen warren]

yeah that's what I want to get to.

[neon panther]

but this is uh, getting quite offtopic

[ashen warren]

So many other things I want to place in those used slots vanilla or otherwise.

[ancient dragon]

...Why Aerialite specifically?

[neon panther]

I kinda see your point but.. why?

[sinful violet]

Why?

[sleek wigeon]

Why aerilatie at all?

[ancient dragon]

I don't see it at all.

[sleek wigeon]

Its a combination of calamitys hardmode ore bars

[earnest raptor]

Bar of Life makes from ore bars.

[sinful violet]

Just makes it a massive pain in the ass

[sleek wigeon]

HARDMODE ore bars

[earnest raptor]

[sleek wigeon]

not just ore bars

[sinful violet]

smh

[sleek wigeon]

People not getting the hecking flavors

[ancient dragon]

If we were to add the other ore bars, it'd basically become a ripoff of Thorium's Terrarium Cores.

[sinful violet]

those are awful good god

for me, that was like, pre nerf auric levels of farming

[sleek wigeon]

Just buy the ores from blacksmith

[ancient dragon]

Blacksmith sells most of the bars. /shrug

[sleek wigeon]

not big deal

shouldnt blacksmith be buying ores not selling them?

[ashen warren]

I like that bouncing cats! Sounds very cute!

I want that!

[sleek wigeon]

shuriken
nonconsumable.

Keep throwers identity have more cool consumable weapons]

[earnest raptor]

Brimblade also shuriken-like, but non-consumable.

[signal ibex]

A chlorophyte throwing weapon.

hm.

[sleek wigeon]

yeah but noone cares about brimblade

[earnest raptor]

And why cares about Bouncing Cats?

[signal ibex]

Bouncing what?

[earnest raptor]

Oh what a hell

Edited

[sinful violet]

Huh

[sleek wigeon]

mrrp, why are you mike?

[signal ibex]

wat

Oh nvm

[earnest raptor]

Basketshake

Offtopic.

Ends.

[ashen warren]

I care cause cats are cute and I find meowmere and related stuff adorable and funny!

some people find meowmere annoying!

I don't.

[ancient dragon]

Mostly because of the sound effect that plays with each bounce.
It gets annoying when you're actually using it as a weapon.

[ashen warren]

still one of the best weapons in vanilla besides terrarian+ all the yoyo goods.

[ancient dragon]

Star Wrath knocks it out of the park, along with most other ML weapons.

[signal ibex]

Should i make another KoF reference?

[earnest raptor]

[signal ibex]

Hm.

[earnest raptor]

I'm stipid.

[signal ibex]

Wat

[earnest raptor]

I'm not known about KoF.

Kalamiti of Fires?

[signal ibex]

That doesnt mean your stupid :/

King Of Fighters.

[sleek wigeon]

kingdom of friendship?

[earnest raptor]

Who know on this server about King of Feathers?

[signal ibex]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[earnest raptor]

Only Yami?

[signal ibex]

Also alexis

:/

[sleek wigeon]

I'd love to be king of feathers, if i could fly

[earnest raptor]

2/6000.

[sinful violet]

What the hell is goin on

[sleek wigeon]

Nothing >_>

Nothing to see here, move along

[signal ibex]

Staph ;-;

[neon panther]

damage is equal to the players speed
determination breaker across the map

[lucid marsh]

Ok of course it would need some kind of damage cap

By the way thanks for the stars

[ancient dragon]

Damage cap? Where we're going, we don't need damage caps.

*loops around the planet*
*reverts time*

[neon panther]

it wouldn’t be that bad, I dont think it needs a cap. Determination breaker only gets to like 1500 mph, and you can’t use it while a boss is alive

[lucid marsh]

Good point

Also should it be affected by damage bonuses?

I think so

[neon panther]

maybe add defense to it aswell? Idk

[lucid marsh]

Good idea. It could also be a material for another shield upgrade

Also sorry for wall of text, which should be a boss like wall of flesh

[sinful violet]

determination breaker

wrong one guys

[ancient dragon]

Shut the your mom up.

[sinful violet]

Don’t let general talk leak over here please

[ancient dragon]

...Sorry.

[west rock]

Why did I get 35 stars on my blaster idea

[worthy fiber]

cuz wulfrum

[west rock]

Oh good

[lusty idol]

Btw, I wasn't dissing on your suggestion when I said something about "splash radius, gtfo" some time ago. It was just a reference to something.

[lusty idol]

@west rock After SCal or DCal?

[elder mist]

im guessing clone

[west rock]

DCal

[lusty idol]

Ah. I was also thinking something of the same idea. Except, after SCal is defeated, something like the Plague falling on the Jungle, it would be calamity or a calamitous thing that falls on the evil biomes.

[bitter topaz]

@keen shard that'll most likely never happen due to terraria being 32bit

[keen shard]

one can dream

[bitter topaz]

since iirc a 999 stack of that would go over the 32bit integer limit

in copper atleast, which is what terraria counts everything in for whatever reason

[keen shard]

and platinum just skims that 32...

[bitter topaz]

nope actually iirc

[keen shard]

digit-wise

[bitter topaz]

it requires a stack size of roughly 2.1k iirc

[ancient dragon]

Which is why MaxStackPlus breaks coins sometimes.

[keen shard]

even more fun

[clever pendant]

I am aware it can be considered dead meme suggestion
but we need to put this googly eyed thot of a boss in his grave so he stops getting suggested okay

[ancient dragon]

LORDE suggestions in general are rart, even those saying 'add an item saying he won't come back'.

Commit cease.

[clever pendant]

Oh

Thought I was at least beIN clever with the implication Yharim killed him but
That's a fair argument. I'll take that.

intelligence I going through the roof today boys

[keen shard]

It should be made out of every single bar there could and would possibly be

like

a copper coin but cooler

[proven tide]

.-.

[lusty idol]

@proven tide New coins will not be added. I've been told it's difficult coding them in and would generate some problems. It'd be better to suggest a non-coin items that just combines your stack of coins so you can unstack it and use them.

[elder mist]

if photos were allowed in general everyone would be memeing and the room would quickly go to chaos @west rock

[west rock]

Oh

[ancient dragon]

It's basically why offtopic died.

[lusty idol]

There is a way to circumvent though, but I'm not sure if it is totally allowed.

It doesn't preview an image.

[ancient dragon]

@novel fulcrum That's... why.

[novel fulcrum]

Its just an upgrade

[lusty idol]

"1 million damage"

[novel fulcrum]

I guess fitting for a post calamitas weapon

[ancient dragon]

What point in progression? That shit would have to be locked tightly behind a SCal-tier wall.

[dull kite]

sounds kinda memey

[ancient dragon]

And uh, that's a no.

[lusty idol]

Post SCal weapons are only supposed to be Dev weapons, iirc.

[ancient dragon]

At the moment, yes.

[dull kite]

^

[novel fulcrum]

But ranged weapons kinda suck post scal

[lusty idol]

Wait, so those dev items are actually going to be part of progression now?!

[ancient dragon]

Still, that needs to be locked behind a superboss tier, and that's definitely not happening.

Oh, no.

They're going to be moved and rebalanced.

[dull kite]

“Kinda sucks post scal”

[elder mist]

dev items will keep being sent until postgame

[lunar dirge]

Oof 1mil damage?

[elder mist]

with every new boss added after scal

[lusty idol]

Ah shit, I meant something along the lines of being moved from dev to a normal weapon.

[lunar dirge]

So 1hit for many bosses

[novel fulcrum]

But the recharge time

[elder mist]

azathoth for progression when

[lusty idol]

Oh, I misinterpreted that. They will keep being pushed.

[ancient dragon]

Recharge time's pitiful.

[lusty idol]

Got it.

[elder mist]

recharge matters little when your adrenaline'd shot

will deal 10 million damage

[lunar dirge]

Dodging a minute isnt hard i think

Nit gettung hit by DoG for example

[elder mist]

12.5 million if you stack with rage

[ancient dragon]

Yeah it's gonna be a no from me, dog.

[lusty idol]

So will there be new weapons for progression past SCal using different material?

[novel fulcrum]

100.000 dmg would be better?

[ashen warren]

500k

Sounds fair

20 minute scal kill in dm

10 in normal

[ancient dragon]

I would imagine so, yes. @lusty idol

Wha.

[elder mist]

calamitous essences will likely be stopped from being used to make demonshade bars and will probably make something else

[lusty idol]

Yeeter. I should rework my post-SCal enemy then. It would've dropped Calamitious Essence, but I actually and thought that Dev weapons aren't progression. That's why I was so if they were going to be.

[ancient dragon]

What is the 'contagion weapon'? What is the buff meant to be?
Elaborate, please.

[novel fulcrum]

The shitty bow post scal

[elder mist]

contagion is post scal iirc

basically like phantasm

except it's worse than phangasm

[ashen warren]

I imagine all the id's for the dev weapons will be changed so the paladian hammer becomes a balanced weapon et cetera

Along with the bars

[elder mist]

but i don't understand why you want to buff post boss weapons

[lusty idol]

'Shitty weapon' and 'post-SCal' don't really go together, buddy.

[ancient dragon]

Please.

[opal barn]

It does

[elder mist]

for starters, they're weapons made after a dev

[ashen warren]

Contagion is worse than phangasm

[elder mist]

the dev decides if they want that weapon to be overpowered or not

[dull kite]

Dev weapon suggestions

REE

[elder mist]

see also: azathoth

if said dev weapon isn't overpowered then it's because they wanted it not to

their choice

[ashen warren]

I don't care about dev weapons however

[ancient dragon]

Oh yeah I forgot about that part.

[ashen warren]

they're dumb

[lusty idol]

Wait, doesn't Contagion inflict "Shred"?

[elder mist]

that's soma prime

[lusty idol]

Ah, shit.

Oh, so if Calamitous Essence will be used for something other than Shadowspec, my enemy idea could still be in play.

[ancient dragon]

Maybe.

[novel fulcrum]

Would a general potions buff be a good suggestion?

[ancient dragon]

Hm?

[novel fulcrum]

Like after a boss "DOG" you get an extra 10% on every potion

[ancient dragon]

Ehhh, that'd really fuck up the balancing.

[novel fulcrum]

Ok

[heady comet]

How can people mess up on the easiest things

[ancient dragon]

Partial meme suggestion.

[heady comet]

Nice meme

[west rock]

Terminated

[ancient dragon]

Pretty sure armor sets were streamlined specifically to avoid having to farm more for mats.

They still have a lot of individuality, though. Specially with the latest updates.

[proven tide]

Conversely it feels like the streamlining narrowed Post-ML armour progression to one linear path of increasing strength, with only two viable options to choose from at Bloodflare/Tarragon tier, and thusly reduced the feeling of... well, having options.

[quiet abyss]

Huh? Silva is quite a bit better than God Slayer in terms of stats.
The only thing that would make God Slayer better is the revival effect...which isn't that impactful.

[opal barn]

Silva's "revival" is better too

[proven tide]

unless you're bad at dodging, making it a lifesaver (see: titanium)

oh, that's right, it got buffed

hahayes my point is proven further

[quiet abyss]

If you're bad at dodging, Revival effect of 100 hp back, with 40 seconds cooldown won't save you anyway

[proven tide]

ergo, my point is proven further, with there only being one notable viability tossup Post-ML

[ancient dragon]

I just personally don't see the practicality in having to go out of your way to farm specific materials for specific classes.

Interesting in concept? Sure. Actually good in gameplay? Hardly.

[proven tide]

It's not about practicality. It's about expanding content.

[opal barn]

Yeah, let's not make this mod bloated with content

[proven tide]

[quiet abyss]

While having more diverse armor sounds a bit interesting, making more armors just for the sake of diversity isn't that good of a reason.
Infact iirc the devs specifically stated that they don't want this mod to become too bloated with content

[ancient dragon]

Post-ML doesn't really warrant the 'variety' either, at least not until the rest of the bosses come out.

Maybe then there'll be more armor sets, but they're likely to still be streamlined.

@west rock No.

[opal barn]

@west rock meme channel was here before, it's not coming back

[quiet abyss]

@west rock It was introduced, gone to shit and removed, came back, then gone to shit and remove again

[west rock]

Sorry

[opal barn]

Da triple ping

[proven tide]

Having diverging paths depending on the decisions you've made makes the game feel less restricted and more fleshed-out. Even having just two armour sets per tier (see: Forbidden/Frost vs. Hallow for specialisation vs. streamlined sets) capitalises on the game's potential for diversity in both gameplay and lore expansion. Terraria is a sandbox, not an RPG, and the choices should feel like you have more than one option (except that one bit pre-DoG) and an open path ahead — especially now that the vanilla game has been left behind and the player is traversing pure Calamity content (in regards to lore, although of course the gameplay is also solely Calamity), I feel there should be more than a single course of action to take.

Absolutely the mod should avoid becoming bloated, bloating sucks and can ruin a game. But there's a line between avoiding bloating and completely ignoring potential and the Post-ML armour progression falls squarely under the latter.

[vague olive]

If you want to see bloated class specific armours see: spirit mod

[quiet abyss]

Making more armor set means....
1.) More things to sprites
2.) More things to code
3.) More things to balance
Do remember that the devs' plates are full as they are

[proven tide]

I'm well aware of their workload which begs the question why they keep the suggestions channels open when they're already busy as fuck, so I'm not expecting or even subconsciously hoping to see this change any time soon — but it would be great to have the idea considered, even momentarily.

[quiet abyss]

Reasonable enough.
As for the suggestion thing:

Remember that although suggestions with 35+ stars get to dev server, the devs will only look at them

[ancient dragon]

Don't delete messages, please.

[proven tide]

I try to avoid leaving an interruption in someone's messages, especially when it's just a momentary nod-of-the-head response, but I'll keep that in mind. 👍

[quiet abyss]

Reading a suggestion takes no more than 5 min at most, and the devs can just jot down the suggestions they find good, while ignoring some of them.

[proven tide]

Of course. I completely respect the developer's opinions, authority, and right to take their own courses of action in regards to our ideas. They are, of course, only suggestions, and as many people have noted (especially in regards to shows, movies, and video games), the general fan populace very rarely understand what they really want and demand the wrong things. They have every right to completely ignore our every word, mine especially, regardless of how many other fans think the ideas are decent.

[quiet abyss]

Nice speech 👍

[proven tide]

aaa

too much text?

[quiet abyss]

Nah, see my suggestion way above

[proven tide]

yeah but if I put a space between each paragraph OuO

[quiet abyss]

Eh, I personally don't think it's too much considering some of the suggestions we've gotten

[proven tide]

like this one dude who wasted twelve lines by putting each crafting material on its own line

._.

[quiet abyss]

You should've seen Trashbox's "True Cobalt Naginata" suggestion when it first came out

[proven tide]

I did

._.

[quiet abyss]

A weapon with a recipe needing 10 of each materials, and there's like 15 different materials

And its effect is...

...A generic, bouncing projectile with a chance to pierce

[proven tide]

Seriously, can someone get this guy to edit this post?

It's such a space-waster

[quiet abyss]

...Oh my god why
Seriously, it's way easier to just make it something like:
"Recipe: Soul Harvester + Ice SIckle + Luminite Bars..."

[proven tide]

@ashen warren AAAA FIX IT

[quiet abyss]

I mean, listing the recipe like that is fine if it's not more than 5-6 materials

[vague olive]

How does confusion become more severe

Do they walk upside down

[quiet abyss]

Well, normal confusion is them moving away from you instead of at you.
A more severe confusion is maybe...make them move back and forth in place?

🤷

@rustic canopy Slime Staff is good enough for King Slime and Desert Scourge.
And Desert Scourge drops a summoner weapon, so you'll be changing weapon soon anyway.
There's no point in making a summon weapon at the same tier of sun spirit staff (which is just bad) and slime staff (I had already explained this one.)

Please, atleast put some more thoughts into your suggestions before posting it.

[rustic canopy]

ok