suggestions-discussion

[ashen warren]

god bless there's a channel for the wiki now

[cyan lagoon]

Most likely will happen, piped

[latent bane]

@elder sparrow you do know that throwing is characterized by it's short range.. right?

[elder sparrow]

scourge of the desert

zzzzzzzzzz

[latent bane]

thats calamity.... not vanilla lmfao

[elder sparrow]

executioner blade crystal piercer scourge of universe empyrean knives ichor spear spear of paleolith ZZZZZZZZ

bone javelin ZZZZZZZZ

if its calamity what's your point

[latent bane]

whatever you're just making a range weapon labeled throwing if its not affected by grav

[elder sparrow]

mycoroot isn't affected by gravity

[latent bane]

its short ranged...

[elder sparrow]

ok whats ur point

boomerangs aren't affected by gravity

[latent bane]

whatever i lost interest a while ago

[elder sparrow]

zzzzzzzzzzz

[restive karma]

Wut

[vague olive]

Malachite

[violet talon]

eh

just go to another world

[delicate raft]

Night's Stabber can be crafted with the Bloody Rupture, creepermaster

I believe he just wants a counterpart for it

[soft grail]

Might actually make the sprite for it

[livid coral]

Didn't mean to post that in Suggestions itself but next person who comments about the mechworm gets a mute.

[cyan lagoon]

wow breaking rules

demoted

[violet talon]

meh

we dont need another angel treads upgrade

[latent bane]

mechworm

wait

fk

[sinful violet]

you get a cool new role

@livid coral would you like to do the honors

[ashen warren]

well damn

[violet talon]

was the role warned?

[latent bane]

oof i am now part of the cool kids club

[livid coral]

😄

[sleek wigeon]

@unique vector wanna know a secret?

all lore on the wiki comes from the fourm post

[unique vector]

@sleek wigeon same thing, it would be nice if there was an ingame version :/

[sinful violet]

@barren rain isn't that already a summon item from some other mod

[violet talon]

tryna get calamity to ripoff other mods pull a tremor smh

[barren rain]

I didn't know

Just an idea I had watching a video about WOF

[vague olive]

Its from spirit iirc

[barren rain]

What does iirc mean?

[violet talon]

if i remember correctly iirc

[vague olive]

^

[barren rain]

Ah okay

[digital saddle]

idk why what i just suggested isnt in the game yet

its very simple

just makes sense if they want to make thrower a full class

[violet talon]

avenger emblem is already a thing

also not destroyer

it's avenger

[ashen warren]

lol

[violet talon]

it makes sense already tho

he's an upgraded worm

[delicate raft]

Yes please

[sleek wadi]

Yeah the current recipe makes sense, buuut it makes the easiest mech boss or the easiest HM boss required when they have no merit to be. Again, if we need to callback to Destroyer we could just make it require Mechanical Worm.

And if that change goes through that would leave us with Ravager to somehow get kicked out of the playthrough because Dragon Egg needs Bars of Life.

[ashen warren]

Badluck Gamma that's notable as a suggestion

👍

[calm temple]

you dont need ravager to makebars oflife

[sleek wadi]

In mandatory bosses you would assuming Souls of Might got removed from Cosmic Worm

You can't go for Plantera to get Perennial.

[ashen warren]

that's true

[sleek wadi]

Oh and Ravager only drops a single Bar of Life at a 1/2 chance post-providence

[calm temple]

luminite pickaxes

it's already a mandatory boss

enough pickaxe power

[sleek wadi]

How does luminite get us bars of life?

[calm temple]

use it to mine perennial

[sleek wadi]

Perennial doesn't even spawn

[cyan lagoon]

But perennial only appears post plant

[calm temple]

plant is optional?

[sleek wadi]

Even then you'd skip over Cryogen

Yes

[ashen warren]

Mm hm

[cyan lagoon]

Actually

You could farm ravager pre prov

[sleek wadi]

But he doesn't drop Bars of Life pre-prov.

[cyan lagoon]

Then open his treasure bags soon after for maximum profit

He doesnt, but the components do

[sleek wadi]

Oh you right

Well that'll make the Ravager grind easier.

[ashen warren]

@gritty crow 🤔

[gritty crow]

Helps keep bosses unforgotten

[crude quartz]

linear mode big rart

its why a lot of people dislike spirit

its too linear

[sleek wadi]

Also seems pointless.

Most people kill everything anyways.

[crude quartz]

'specially after working on getting rid of linearity in the mod

[sleek wadi]

Too much is locked behind the bosses to feasibly skip them in an average playthrough

[cyan lagoon]

Yes please

[sleek wigeon]

i dont see the point in making bosses far below the tier optional

[sleek wadi]

Because the intended mandatory bosses are supposed to be WoF, ML, and post-ML excluding Polterghast and Scal but due to what I assume are oversights this isn't the case

[pulsar notch]

Solidifiable blighted gel should exist

[sleek wadi]

Currently Skeletron Prime, Cryogen, and Plantera are all required due to Dragon Egg and Cosmic Worm and nothing else.

[earnest raptor]

Why prime?

Maybe brimmy?

Also drop Fright.

[sleek wadi]

Medallion requires hallowed

[upper zinc]

should give purified gel a use

[pulsar notch]

I don't know how to react with a star if there's not one already there help

eh

probably in pins

oh found it

hecking

[bitter topaz]

@earnest raptor there was an attempt to

she does the abyss/levi drop pool updates along with causing ediolists to drop ectoplasm

the hardmode dungeon is hardcoded to plantera, making it impossible to change without some very questionable coding afaik

[earnest raptor]

🤔

[bitter topaz]

in other words blame vanilla for being a complete mess code-wise

[earnest raptor]

Maybe Calamitas trigger World.bossPlanteraKilled, and Calamitas/Plantera-related events triggers on these variable?

[neon panther]

plus living shards and perennial ore are kinda important, and it doesn’t really make sense for calamitas to cause those

[earnest raptor]

[bitter topaz]

we'd probably need an alt to perennial thinking about it

[earnest raptor]

Ehhh

I'm think about ore.

[elder sparrow]

35 stars within half a day

pog

[neon panther]

rekt

nah jk

[elder sparrow]

someone jebaited me!!!

i star myself ez

[lavish briar]

hot

[sudden quail]

Someone already made a furniture set for Purified Gel, including blocks & walls.

[elder sparrow]

stylizing suggestions are op

bc what i suggest is always right and it should have more attention, stylizing gives me more attention

[sinful violet]

cease

[night cradle]

less void.

[ashen warren]

@earnest raptor B O I

The player is only 6 foot

[clever pendant]

Yharim is a full meter taller
Debuff side would make sense.

[ashen warren]

Question is: How are you gonna code in the bigger hit box than the player?

[clever pendant]

That would be a good question.

[ashen warren]

The idea is cool

just, not sure how it will work

[tired haven]

Don't mounts change hitboxes?

Some of them at least

[tropic lynx]

I know most mounts make the players hitbox 4 blocks high

[ashen warren]

But this isnt a mount

[tired haven]

I mean if we are going full madness, we could make that helmet make pseudo mount that has Celestial Tracers + aegis dash + Magic Carpet effects which would look like bigger auric set char

Not sure if it's worth the effort though

[ashen warren]

It sounds a lot like the Thourium transformation items

[lusty idol]

Should there be a "Bundle of Balloons 2" combining Sharkron Balloon, Honey Balloon, and Green Balloon?

[tired haven]

It is basically one tbh

Yeah, I suggested that bundle before

[lusty idol]

My OCD always kicks in when all the balloons aren't combined

[tired haven]

And I'm just sad MOAB isn't continued past that one accessory

[ashen warren]

Heheheh

[tropic lynx]

Why not make a bundle of balloons that combines all the balloons?

[ashen warren]

I made a suggestion that got 35+ stars that upgrades the MOAB

[vague olive]

Because farming for all the balloons is painful

[lusty idol]

When you combine the MOAB and Bundle of Balloons 2: Electric Boogaloo, you get "Up". All 6 balloons combined.
Seriously, we need those three to be combined and edit the Honey Balloon to shoot out bees when you jump.

I saw that suggestion, I starred it because I want it so fucking bad.

[ashen warren]

Vanilla code editing?

[ashen warren]

Heheheheheh

Im a fucking genius

[tropic lynx]

It should be BFB before ZOMG

[lusty idol]

Well, keep the honey balloon the same, but when its combined, you get the sharkron boost, green balloon boost, and then the honey woulg give you a boost with bees coming out

[tired haven]

And there was mine as well\

[ashen warren]

Well I dont carry refrences beyond what they are meant to be

Ah fuck

THE HOVER BOARD

[tired haven]

Why not?

It's cool

[ashen warren]

I forgot to make a suggestion using it

You got it good tho

[tired haven]

Yours still got more stars (because it was more fleshed out)

[ashen warren]

LOL

My format is clean and readable(Ish)

[lusty idol]

I like the ABMS into Balloonception. It should have 6 double jumps, where the honey balloon releases bees that attack and give you a jump boost

And the hoverboard+jetpack isnt bad.

[ashen warren]

Jet pack is used in MOAB tho

[tired haven]

5 jumps imho is pretty much enough

It is, that's why balloonception gets its effect

[lusty idol]

Yeah, having both when combined isnt bad.

[ashen warren]

I can imagine VPU being a favorite

[lusty idol]

I feel gravitated toward just combining Bundle of Balloons and then Bundle of Balloons 2 to replace MOAB. Then you use that ultimate bundle of balloons into the MOAB at a later progression so it could truly be the mother of all balloons.

[ashen warren]

Eh, MOAB is dwarfed by the ZOMG tho

since ZOMG is a mother fucking ZEPLIN.

[tired haven]

Inb4 someone kicks in to tell me again that MOAB isn't mother of all balloons and I reee hard

[ashen warren]

I mean, MOAB is what actually holds the Ceramic Bloons

Not the BFB or ZOMG

SO nobody can really tell us no

[tired haven]

Also why ZOMG can't still remain being MOAB upgrade while MOAB becomes literal mother of all balloons?

Or whatever

[ashen warren]

Wait

EVERYBODY IS FORGETING MOAB ISNT AN ACRONYM FOR MOTHER OF ALL BALLOONS!

[tired haven]

Reeeeee

[lusty idol]

So Beetle, your suggestions basically replaces the final celestial tracers or whatever its called, right? Or is it an alternative to it?

[ashen warren]

Its an alt

not a replacement

[tired haven]

Yep

[ashen warren]

My suggestion states that at the top of it

smh

[tired haven]

Alternative movement option postML

[lusty idol]

shit

i was looking for it because i knew i saw it before, but just didnt bother to read the top

[ashen warren]

This one is more focussed for the ones who dont like flying, and rather jump instead

thought it does have flight time

[lusty idol]

I guess the extra "im" at the end of "Seraphim" threw me off. Seraph is the name.

[ashen warren]

What the fuck

I think its italian or something

[bitter topaz]

it literally says it's latin

[lusty idol]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Seraph_Tracers

[ashen warren]

OOOF

What ever they know what i meant

[lusty idol]

Of course they did. I said it threw me off when I was trying to find it.

[ashen warren]

:/\

I think its because of Seraphim Snas being a thing is why i was mistaking that

[lusty idol]

yeeter

[ashen warren]

AHHAHAHHHHAHA

I like making suggestions

[ancient dragon]

Smh Cryst just go back to Terraria Fan Ideas wiki.

[ashen warren]

[vague olive]

Thats seems op and bad at the same time

What if i dont want 2x healing pot length

[ashen warren]

Well, I thought that up to balance the auto heal mechanic

How can I fix it

[ancient dragon]

Remove it altogether, or add a toggle.

[vague olive]

^

[ancient dragon]

Autoheal is a pretty wack mechanic to introduce anyways.

[ashen warren]

It is gone frome life

[vague olive]

Also why include something as random as the mechs not spawning

[ancient dragon]

Something something lore.

[ashen warren]

Well, youre riding DHCU, which would fool the Mech bosses into thinking your their master

And what Alexis said

[vague olive]

Hm

[bitter topaz]

@winter granite ask Uncle Danny about that

or minecat

both are the wiki admins

[sleek wigeon]

@winter granite Dont ask them about them about this

we cant do version history

[bitter topaz]

[sleek wigeon]

because we simply dont know early versions

[bitter topaz]

i don't think either would be annoyed by the question and also i wasn't aware of that reason

[sleek wigeon]

changelogs for calamity were not so good back in the day

It gets brought up semi often enough that I know the answer

Look it up/ ask minecat yourself if you dont belive me

[ashen warren]

Honestly why did the wiki not get a version history at the start?

It would help know when something was added

[sleek wigeon]

see reason stated above

calamity did NOT keep good records of when shit was added back in the day

[ashen warren]

Makes some sense

Its like the Calamity mod resets

[sleek wigeon]

?

[ashen warren]

Never mind

[quiet abyss]

@earnest raptor So you're basically suggesting Fabsol to do even more work and almost completely reworked mechanical bosses post DoG...just to have them drop cosmilite bars instead of DoG?

[earnest raptor]

No.

Im want to fight new bosses without adding new bosses xd

[ashen warren]

SMH

What about Summoners and Throwers?

[earnest raptor]

Oh.

I'm forget, editing...

[ancient dragon]

Would likely bloat up the mod even more with little purpose. Post-DoG weapons themselves are already more than good enough at killing him, you don't need this rework for them.

[quiet abyss]

Right, that reminds me...I should work on that Spirit Generator upgrade idea I had thought of earlier today.

[ancient dragon]

Mechs are fine as they are, if you seek even more of a thrill while fighting them, code said thrill yourself.

[ashen warren]

Also Soul of Godlike Sight/Might/Fright arent really creative names

[earnest raptor]

Edited.

Soul names - reference to old mechs and indicates their growed might.

[ashen warren]

Well Ill give you credit, you are using my clean format

[earnest raptor]

I'm needed to clear my Lenovo to install Google Docs.

gets away...

[ashen warren]

Its online dude

no need to install it

Is anyone able to read the Doc i sent?

[earnest raptor]

But i'm needed Docs apps because online editing on Android is... sucks.

[sudden quail]

I like it, but biggest reason why I'm starring is cause I want that Auric Knight ally

[ashen warren]

Okek

Are the debuffs good? or buffs?

[earnest raptor]

And also.

[ashen warren]

Yeeeeeaas?

[earnest raptor]

I'm not think logical, was defeating cybernetic galaxy worm causes... more powerful seasonal invasions.

[ashen warren]

I dont understand what that sentence is saying. Sorry

[ancient dragon]

^

[earnest raptor]

Edited.

[ancient dragon]

So you don't think it makes sense to have buffed moon events because of DoG, and that it'd make more sense to have buffed mech bosses?

[quiet abyss]

Got my spirit generator upgrade idea out. I hope it's good

[earnest raptor]

Alexis, yes.

[ashen warren]

Sounds 👍

[ancient dragon]

It is a pretty solid suggestion, Pinkie.

[quiet abyss]

Honestly, this idea wouldn't have appeared if I hadn't tried Providence out with summoner

[ancient dragon]

As for the mech boss one, I'd say it makes almost as much sense as the moon events. The only thing separating the two would be Draedon's link to the mechs themselves as opposed to any lore for the moons that I'm not even aware exists or not.
But who knows, maybe Fab has/will make some.

[ashen warren]

Well, how would the Mech Bosses be upgraded if they are rouge?

The lore clearly stated that they went rouge

[quiet abyss]

^ this

[ashen warren]

Now we wait patiently for the stars to be put up

For one, Pink has a LIT suggestion

[ancient dragon]

I'm commenting on their link, not how said link functions.

Which is why I said it makes almost as much sense.

[quiet abyss]

What's funny is that my suggestion popped up in my head today a bit after I'm done with my exam and waiting for the next exam lmfao

[ashen warren]

lOl

[quiet abyss]

There's like 40 mins left before next exam, and I can only sleep for so long

[ashen warren]

I made an Abyss extension suggestion way back. It got 35+

[quiet abyss]

Noice

[ashen warren]

And Pink i feal bad for you

[quiet abyss]

Mhm why?

[ashen warren]

BEcause you are having real life happen

[quiet abyss]

Let's stop talking about this tho this is kinda getting offtopic

[ashen warren]

Si

[ashen warren]

@wanton sun Agreed

[wanton sun]

[ashen warren]

[chrome holly]

I love @earnest raptor's suggestion, it's a shame no one's there to add stars.

[ashen warren]

smh

[signal ibex]

A magic weapon made out of all gem staffs

[sudden quail]

Crystilium has that

Fun as fuck to use

[signal ibex]

Oh.

:/

Wait thats a dagger

Eh nvm

[sudden quail]

?

[signal ibex]

Aint crystilium a dagger?

that splits?

[sudden quail]

You're thinking of Crystalline. Crystilium is a mod.

[signal ibex]

Oh....

Nvm

[earnest raptor]

No more crystals.

And.

Please.

Write suggestions.

In #suggestions-voting.

[worthy fiber]

As much as a version history in the wiki would be nice, changelogs have only been a recent thing and no one's really been keeping track

[sudden quail]

@earnest raptor

People are allowed to discuss their suggestions in here before posting them in the other channel

[dense girder]

[sudden quail]

@ashen warren ??????

[bitter topaz]

@hybrid cipher we've got an idiot in #suggestions-voting

[ashen warren]

Hi

[bitter topaz]

save us from the dead shitty meme

[dense girder]

H i L a R i O u S !!! GuYs its ThE LoRDE!!! XDDD

fuck off spark

[sudden quail]

Why the hell did you put that in there

[quiet abyss]

Oh nonono I have evidence: https://gyazo.com/012da6119a2cd741aa126089d805f20e

[hybrid cipher]

@ashen warren warned for memeing in suggestions AND the lorde

[ashen warren]

It is not in the game now

[wanton sun]

w

[dense girder]

gyazo oof

ty pinkie

[sudden quail]

Yes and it was removed because it's a dumb meme

Why do you want it back?

[wanton sun]

superior tool

[ashen warren]

Memeing how

[bitter topaz]

[quiet abyss]

Lorde is a meme boss.
Its existence is a meme

[ashen warren]

I am just saying the lorde showed get back in the game

[dense girder]

No it shouldn't

[bitter topaz]

did you come into this server just to suggest the LORDE?

[ashen warren]

It was a fun boss

[bitter topaz]

and lorde should fucking stay dead

[dense girder]

It was never funny in the first place except for when it was first released and it was an obscenely hard boss

[quiet abyss]

Lorde is a cancerous meme that shouldn't come back.
You should see the toxicity.

[ashen warren]

Why am I warned for having an opinion

[bitter topaz]

for suggesting the LORDE you dunce

[sudden quail]

YOU WERE TOLD WHY BY THE SAME MOD WHO WARNED YOU

[quiet abyss]

As fun as he is in some people's opinions, he should not come back.

[sudden quail]

Also if you want Lorde back, actually ask for him back. Don't just post a pic of him and say "There".

[dense girder]

@versed hinge Could you please edit the rules message you have pinned in #suggestions-voting to say "Readding the LORDE suggestions will never be accepted, will be deleted and you will be warned."

[ashen warren]

The LORDE is a fun boss tho

[hybrid cipher]

@dense girder are you dumb

[quiet abyss]

You're not warned cause of your opinion, rather it's cause of how you suggest it

[hybrid cipher]

stop talking about the lorde in here anyway

[dense girder]

how am i dumb wtf

[ashen warren]

DUMB THE LORDE IS A GOOD BOSS IT IS THE BEST BOSS

[hybrid cipher]

you tagged tighe

@ashen warren get out of this channel or i will warn you

[ashen warren]

Why

[sudden quail]

That's like, your opinion, man

[ashen warren]

Tho

[hybrid cipher]

because this isn't the correct channel for memeing

[dense girder]

oh

but only he can edit it so

"GAY DASH"

thanks sparky

[bitter topaz]

i should've taken a screenshot of that

[dense girder]

I could do of the notification it gave me

but I clicked it and it went away

[bitter topaz]

guy acts like he's 12

[quiet abyss]

I tell him off in a civil, reasonable way via DM, and he responds like that?

Tsk tsk

[dense girder]

he is

[sudden quail]

I missed it what happened

[ashen warren]

Nothing

[sleek wigeon]

Nothing at all

[dense girder]

Sparky did a dumb again

[sleek wigeon]

Nothing ever happens in here or on the wiki

ever

[ashen warren]

[quiet abyss]

That sparky guy said something in #suggestions-voting then delete it almost immediately.
Apparrently it's "GAY DASH"

[sudden quail]

Oooo

[ashen warren]

Ultra lel

[dense girder]

All-caps included

[quiet abyss]

Like petty insults would affect me.
I'm more annoyed by his attitude: I explain why that boss will never be readded in a civil, reasonable way, even telling him about Apoths and Friends mod.
And he responds like that. Tsk tsk

[sleek wigeon]

Cosmic thonk all you want beetle, any other wiki editor can back me up

[dense girder]

What is Apoth and Friends anyways?

I keep hearing about it but wtf is it

[ashen warren]

Its a meme mod

[worthy fiber]

addon mod

[paper wagon]

Cancer?

[quiet abyss]

A calamity addon mod by Terry

[sleek wigeon]

terrys meme mod

[quiet abyss]

^ this

[worthy fiber]

I wouldn't say cancer

[dense girder]

sounds good can I pirate it on freehindumovies.com

[quiet abyss]

Mhm, his mod is more meme than cancer

Not even close to cancer tbh

[ashen warren]

Its the mod that you want if you want the most powerful weapons in existence

[worthy fiber]

It's silly and fun

has a discord too

[paper wagon]

Haven't really seen too much of it, though some of the bosses somehow look worse than the LORDE XD

[ashen warren]

Why are talking aboot this in Suggestions?

[paper wagon]

What about the Sword of the Multiverse

You have a good point

[upper zinc]

should add more uses for reaper tooth

[ashen warren]

Search for 'Omegalodon' a suggestion already with 35+ stars that uses said underued material

[bitter drift]

@ashen warren can i just post the balloons suggestions of me and you

[ashen warren]

DM Me them

And My MOAB upgrade suggestion got 35+ stars

[bitter drift]

what MD stand for

[ashen warren]

DM= Direct Messages

[bitter drift]

what i did just now

[ashen warren]

Not really

You know how you can message friends?

[bitter drift]

no

[ashen warren]

I need help explaining this

[bitter drift]

oh god

[ashen warren]

Wait

Click on my name

[bitter drift]

ok

[ashen warren]

Theres an option that allows you to message peeps

[bitter drift]

see it did it

[ashen warren]

no message recieved

[quiet abyss]

Making WoF even more annoying to fight lmfao

[bitter topaz]

please no i want WoF to remain atleast slightly tolerable

[digital saddle]

Wof is absurdly easy

[ashen warren]

Honestly WoF Revengance Drop When?

[opal barn]

Vehemence

[ashen warren]

I thought thats an SCal drop now?

[quiet abyss]

It used to be WoF's revengeance drop, then it got moved to SCal now

[ashen warren]

Okeke

[opal barn]

that't the joke

[quiet abyss]

^

[ashen warren]

lel

Welp, Lemme get my IDEA Machine running

[quiet abyss]

Watch as by the time rover come online to star suggestions, my suggestion will be pushed up and remain unnoticed by people lmao

[ashen warren]

YOU SAW NOTHING

[bitter topaz]

[quiet abyss]

...I actually saw nothing cause I was too late

[ashen warren]

Good

[bitter topaz]

i read something about you getting an extra slot

[ashen warren]

Correct

[bitter topaz]

inb4 8 slots on rev

[ashen warren]

But theres a catch

[quiet abyss]

Didn't WoF already has Demon Heart

[sleek wigeon]

Exosuit when?

[bitter topaz]

you need clay because balance

[quasi fable]

what catch

[quiet abyss]

Catch: You have 8 slots but 1 slot is unusable until post-SCal

[ashen warren]

[sleek wigeon]

I see no catch in that suggestion

[bitter topaz]

[quasi fable]

wait riiight 8 slots

not 7

[sleek wigeon]

Yes just give no hitters an extra slot for litterally no penalty

[quiet abyss]

[ashen warren]

The catch is You loose some things that will screw you over

[sleek wigeon]

HA

[ashen warren]

And Not a lot of nohitters exist

[sleek wigeon]

screw me over, as if

[quiet abyss]

Nah, actually . . .
NOT IF I BAN IT

[sleek wigeon]

risk reward doesnt work when the reward is so high and the risk is so low

[ashen warren]

Moves it to SCAL

[digital saddle]

Accessories are the most powerful items in the game

[bitter topaz]

you'd need to make it a -100% DR to make it remotely balanced

[quiet abyss]

"-100%DR"
AKA no DR for you

[ashen warren]

Oh boi

[bitter topaz]

because 1 extra accessory slot can be obscenely broken

[quiet abyss]

See also: Wing Slot

[ashen warren]

Cheat sheet Memeories

[bitter topaz]

it's pretty much an to balance

[opal barn]

That suggestion is broken af

[digital saddle]

Wdym wing slot

[ashen warren]

I tried

[quiet abyss]

@sleek wigeon Is that a new debuff/buff that will greatly benefit nohitters?

[digital saddle]

I was thinking of an item you could craft with celestial onion and demon heart at draedons forge
That gives +3 accessories
So if I make it that far with 5 slots u get rewarded

[ashen warren]

Uh

[quiet abyss]

+3 accs- No, just no

8 slots are already super broken

[opal barn]

Lmao

[ashen warren]

WoF Treasure bag doesnt even drop the Demon heart once you consume it

Ive tested this out

[opal barn]

You can just kill wof 2 times and get 6 accessories and use the other one for the item

[digital saddle]

That doesn't work

[bitter topaz]

at this point just let us put on every accessory

[digital saddle]

It only drops 1 demon heart

[opal barn]

We don't need 8 slots, that's rarted anyway

[ashen warren]

Okek

[sleek wigeon]

@quiet abyss sa an accessory. I added the 30% hp thing specifically to fuck with no hits, which i presume normally start at 100% hp

[ashen warren]

And the wind shot it till it ded

[quiet abyss]

Nah, remember that taking damage when a boss isn't alive doesn't count

So nohitters can intentionnally make themselves low on HP and receive that buff

[opal barn]

They would probably brake the dps cap if they would do that

So doesn't really matter

[quiet abyss]

Mhm, true

Or, me and LompL can just discuss its effect and decide whether to ban it or not

[opal barn]

And it's unlikely they would be below 30% for the whole fight

[digital saddle]

Random idea
Accessory that reduces ur dmg by 50%
But boosts crit chance by 50%

[quiet abyss]

I mean, the 30% damage even for the first 10 or so seconds of the fight can be pretty game changing

[opal barn]

You mean the 100% more damage?

[quiet abyss]

You think my spirit generator idea is good?

[sleek wigeon]

its alright yeah

[quiet abyss]

I just want piercing summons to be more effective for bosses tbh

And make it not just "Summon until you reach max minions"

[ashen warren]

Oh yeah Cryonic Core is pretty 👍

[sleek wigeon]

why dont dead inside have the ability to star things?

[ashen warren]

idk

[quiet abyss]

Don't ask me

[ashen warren]

beacause raisins?

[sleek wigeon]

why dont i have the ability to star things );

[quiet abyss]

Only thing we got is one DI item that we can give to Danny who will port it to dev servers. And DI items are taken quite seriously.
Other than that...ye

[ashen warren]

Well DI items are rewards essentially

[quiet abyss]

Mhm pretty much

Even tho they're still not guaranteed even if they're taken seriously

[sleek wigeon]

Donator items but you donate your soul

[quiet abyss]

Pretty much, ye

[ashen warren]

lol

[sleek wigeon]

dont laugh at that, its a very old joke

[quiet abyss]

If Dead Inside can star things then Untouchable should be able to also, if this will even happen.

[sleek wigeon]

ijones for wiki editor when?

[ashen warren]

🤔

[quiet abyss]

Don't ask me but I think you deserve it

[ashen warren]

(_(

uh

[sleek wigeon]

Im sure jumping super high wont lead to any ill effects during precision based boss fights

nope

none at all

[quiet abyss]

"boop"

[ashen warren]

We did some thinking together

I didnt get enought time to flesh things out for him

[quiet abyss]

And what, pray tell, is this "boop" you two thought of?

[sleek wigeon]

think harder next time scrub

[ashen warren]

Ignore the boop

[sleek wigeon]

Us? ignore something?

you overestimate us my good sir

prepare to be interrogated

[quiet abyss]

[ashen warren]

Oh god please why

[quiet abyss]

Eh...I'm going to hit the hay now.
GNight ya'll, sweet dreams

[ashen warren]

GNight

[sleek wigeon]

omega key more like omegalul

[ashen warren]

[bitter topaz]

suggests MOAB upgrades
blatantly stolen from someone else
proceeds to delete said suggestion

[ashen warren]

I told him to

And it wast stolen

[bitter topaz]

nevermind then

[ashen warren]

He was missjufging things

[sleek wigeon]

not using ddt or b.a.d in moab suggestions

smh

bad beetle

[ashen warren]

No

lel

[sleek wigeon]

Beetle is like a bad. Very slow, kinda easy to take out, and very horrible

[ashen warren]

I dont carry refrences further than they need to be

besides

Enough peeps liked it in the begining

[tired haven]

Fool + Mana Overloader nohit meta

[ashen warren]

Wow today is not a good day to be a suggestor.

[sinful violet]

i'll star em

didn't have time till now

[ashen warren]

Lol

[worthy fiber]

I like the toy launcher thing

[bitter drift]

are we continuing this or tomarow

[worthy fiber]

Continuing what

[bitter drift]

not you irrtatingbeetle6

[ashen warren]

Maybe. I need time to think

[bitter drift]

ok

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren Very descriptive

Love how you get it

I like it’s tool tip

(Sarcasm)

[worthy fiber]

/s

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren keep it all in one suggestion please

k

[sleek wigeon]

shift+enter starts a new line

[ashen warren]

ok.

[odd terrace]

Thoughts on the Ambrosial Ampoule tweak in #suggestions-voting?

[ashen warren]

Why the Forge?

[odd terrace]

It's the crafting station before Ancient Manipulator

[ashen warren]

But the Mythril Anvil exists

The Forge is for making bars and shit

[tired haven]

Something something astrum gays gives adrenaline upgrade as well

[odd terrace]

I guess

Edited suggestion to add that and to change to Mythril Anvil

Point still stands

No interesting content rewarded for killing Astreum Deus early

Just a stat buff

[ashen warren]

Well DoG is fighting someone that is equal to him. @earnest raptor

He wouldn’t directly attack them unless necessary

[ashen warren]

This mod has been needing some unique bullets for a while imo

[west prairie]

Birbullet.

[ashen warren]

@west prairie XD

PERFECT

[uneven spoke]

good birbullet

[ashen warren]

Those would lag the game

[west prairie]

to be fair, calculating a proper series of connections for the chain lightning to make to maximize enemies hit would be hell on the processor

[ashen warren]

What chain lightning?

[west prairie]

for birb bullet

[ashen warren]

Oh lele yee

[west prairie]

the darksun arrow i KNOW will be hell

[ashen warren]

We wait

[vernal sphinx]

@ashen warren nice bullet suggestions

[ashen warren]

Thank

[vernal sphinx]

they're 👌

[ashen warren]

Thank :D

[west prairie]

best idea yet

[fleet fox]

I'd love having more bullets, holy fire ones being the best and also the last bullets available is just sad

[cyan lagoon]

Oh, uh...

[tired haven]

wiimote
fab getting sued by nintendo intensifies

[cyan lagoon]

that's a pretty dumb suggestion if you ask me

[late cypress]

Exactly

[cyan lagoon]

well i'm gonna have to delete that, dumb suggestions aren't allowed

[late cypress]

oh ok

[fleet fox]

Yeah, good suggestion

[little jolt]

summoner is viable bitch whatchu talkin about

but yeah better ai would be nice

[fleet fox]

Summoner was never viable

Only post ML

[little jolt]

summoner thrives post-plantera, what

early hardmode it struggles a little

and calamitas is difficult

pre-hardmode is fine for everything but king slime, where you're just gonna spam the slime staff over and over

[digital saddle]

"the only way to fend off as a summoner is to run away or dodge, and if your hit, your armor isn’t ever even that good so it’s always devastating."

this is so sad

alexa play despacito

having to dodge

the real issue with summoner isnt "dodging hard" its that summoner has poor control over its damage output and minions are stupid

also lack of diversity

at some points

[tired haven]

Main trouble imho is that you either dodge or deal dmg

[digital saddle]

minions are stupid

[tired haven]

Hard to make summoner have both points

And minions are stupid, yes

[digital saddle]

resummoning is awkward, and if its going to be a real mechanic it should be hotkey-able

dismissing your minions

that is

and the minion AI issue isnt gonna be fixed unless the devs rework minion ai

which probably wont happen till 1.4

minimum

[pulsar notch]

I like minions, they do the job for you and so long as you have enough mana, you can double as a mage

[tired haven]

Hmm, should I even try to suggest moving Earth to exo-tier? Guess it falls under "developer items" category which is instant decline

[west prairie]

earth is a dev item

so no

[bitter topaz]

a meme suggestion? really?

[ancient dragon]

[little jolt]

Smh

[crude quartz]

ew a meme

burn it

[frosty kindle]

@unreal juniper do not post memes or other non-serious stuff in suggestions please.

[worthy raptor]

was he already warned or is that new?

he was already warned, muted then I guess

@unreal juniper muted for what m'boi up there said ^

[odd terrace]

What was it

I need to know

[ancient dragon]

Making Levi the true final boss.

[crude quartz]

unfunny and stupid

how grand

[frosty kindle]

Dark warrior: "make levi the true final boss"

[odd terrace]

If you're gonna meme, at least make it Crabulon

[frosty kindle]

I thought i was gonna get my ass turned into grass for minimodding but i guess the fair warning worked for the better

[crude quartz]

on the big server its usually fine

[ancient dragon]

God-tier fishbun saves french catdog from carpal tunnel syndrome.

[frosty kindle]

Carpal tunnel syndrome? May i ask?

[crude quartz]

just notify a mod after doing so and it works well

[ancient dragon]

#general-talk before we go too out of hand.

[frosty kindle]

K

[lusty idol]

@mystic geyser I'd like an event too, but I've been told that programming events can be a bit of a hassle and may not be implemented in.

[crude quartz]

plus that specific event has been suggested so many times

[lusty idol]

I was going to suggest an Astral Army event, kind of like a harder Goblin Army, using some of my enemy ideas until I was told of the difficulties.

[bitter topaz]

buffing crabbo for shroomite bars is a moot point imo

shroomite is mostly useless compared to reaver

[ashen warren]

I don't think I ever used shroomite in any playthrough

[bitter topaz]

you'd only ever use vanilla gear if you're meming or playing mage tbh

[odd terrace]

It's nice to be able to get it without spending a fucking hour spawning the Truffle

And MagicStorage uses it for one of the tiers

[ashen warren]

use fargo's bake sale thing lul

[odd terrace]

Plus, it is used for Aeries and Shroomer/AMR

I suggested it because it fits really well with the buff-earlier-bosses-for-farming-resources thing

[bitter topaz]

imo giving plantera all 3 bars seems like a better idea

[odd terrace]

That's a bit concentrated, though

Plus, Crabulon is the perfect boss to drop them

And we get more C R A B

I recently made the effort to make the Crabulon and PBG music boxes

[crude quartz]

ok

[odd terrace]

What can I say? DM DOKURO does a good job

[tired haven]

Plantera is already center of earth about loots and you want to slap even more loots on her

[neon panther]

someone suggested something almost exactly like that a while back, but i think it was post golem. It got 87 Stars, so you’re not the only one who thinks so :3

this is why I want a channel for suggestions that reached 35

[tired haven]

Yeah, repeated starred suggestions are a bit odd

[crude quartz]

there is one, but its for devs to see

granted I remember how the bot works

[neon panther]

Isn’t bot down atm?

[brave warren]

yes

[tired haven]

No one is going to check suggestions channel for similar suggestions that probably got 35 stars

[crude quartz]

yes so instead Evan throws them in a doc

[brave warren]

devs log them instead a

[lusty idol]

grateful for Evan

[dull kite]

it’s not me anymore you WEEEEEBS

but yes do praise me

[crude quartz]

wow letting us down

what a weeb

[brave warren]

weenie

[heady comet]

ew weeb

[dull kite]

there are devs forwarding them now iirc

instead of dum gray name

I’ll still yell at you for breaking suggestion rules tho. Even if alphi yells at me

[ancient dragon]

Oh damn, you don't interact with devs directly anymore? Why am I even still your friend? </s>

[dull kite]

I talk to frous

[ancient dragon]

Smh he doesn't count.

[dull kite]

I talked to Danny like a few times

[ancient dragon]

...Alright, you get a pass.

[ancient dragon]

If it's already been made 'a thousand times' and you acknowledge that, please don't post it. If your hyperbole is anywhere near correct and still nothing's changed, it likely won't.

[lusty idol]

@clever pendant A channel that combines both 35+ stars and possibly used suggestions instead of two. Kinda like the sug channel, just tag a suggestion that shows it could be implemented

[clever pendant]

I don't know if it has, but the fact that I don't know is part of why it's a good idea. So that it never comes up again.

[ancient dragon]

That's some pretty flawed logic.

[lusty idol]

tbh too many channels

[clever pendant]

I mean when you think about it, the fact that it's probably been suggested before but nobody's sure I a proof of concept on why it should exist.
If it DID exist, that uncertainty would be easily rectified.

[lusty idol]

that channel would be good for this idea that has been suggested a thousand times

[vague olive]

What

[lusty idol]

so we know that it has been suggested already

[ancient dragon]

Have you thought of whether the admins have considered it but deemed it too much of a hassle to control, perhaps?

There's likely a myriad of other reasons as to why they shouldn't do it, which is why they haven't.

[lusty idol]

I get what you're saying, but maybe they could at least tell us why instead of having people keep suggesting it. But I also get if they don't want to or can't.

[ancient dragon]

I'm happy you at least understand.

[ashen warren]

Can this be a rule to stop suggesting things that have been suggested in at least a million times

[lusty idol]

People should just actually read the suggestions though so they know not to repeat it.

[ancient dragon]

Oh yeah, that reminded me of another point; You can just look up suggestions with keywords you'd think are likely to be used in your own. Pleading ignorance is hard when the search function exists and they're easy to come across if you're dedicated enough.

You would have more of a leg to stand on if you did thorough research before suggesting and couldn't find anything even if it exists.

[lusty idol]

Never actually knew a search function existed. How do?

[ashen warren]

S M F H

[lusty idol]

i always never look around hard enough.

[ancient dragon]

always never

[ashen warren]

life

[lusty idol]

happens irl. try to find stuff but then its probably in my hand

[ancient dragon]

Getting kinda off-topic.

[dull kite]

@clever pendant already suggested and got like 100 stars

not being added afaik, I already asked Danny.

Also thank you for that @ancient dragon

I’ve been trying to say that for a long ass time but couldn’t word it properly

[ancient dragon]

Anytime, cap'n.

[bitter topaz]

what the fuck are these suggestions

[ancient dragon]

I smell an meme suggestion.

[bitter topaz]

@ashen warren meme suggestion

seriously what's with the meme suggestions recently

[ancient dragon]

/shrug

[bitter topaz]

we've had an unironic LORDE suggestion ffs

[ashen warren]

Seriously?

[bitter topaz]

yup, an unironic "bring LORDE back"

[vague olive]

People dont really care about their suggestions and how it would fit into the mod

[ancient dragon]

That's pretty sad.

[vague olive]

So they throw anything in there

[dull kite]

I will murder anyone who makes a meme suggestion

[ashen warren]

Ok

Kills the entire server

[ashen warren]

ok

@lavish lily no meme suggestions, please

[bitter topaz]

@versed thorn danny prefers consistency with the vanilla wiki

[ancient dragon]

Smh should've just gotten Meta instead of Mr. 1mil ping over here.

[ashen warren]

hey :(

i didn't see i got pinged

i just heard the noise and thought to check here

[ancient dragon]

Smh my head.

[night cradle]

hi

[ancient dragon]

#general-talk smh.

[night cradle]

[ashen warren]

Holy Fuck

[quiet abyss]

@ashen warren The idea seems cool I’ll admit but...why Provi’s theme?

[dull kite]

Alexis you’re a cool dude not a mod smh

[ashen warren]

Uh, i meant No theme

Unless the Profaned Crags theme works?

[ancient dragon]

Cool dudes are the ones who star it you big dum.

[dull kite]

oh, provi theme was weird tbh

[ashen warren]

Imma do Profaned Crags them if thats cool

[dull kite]

Alexis I’m talking about how you yelled at him to go to general you big dum ily

[ancient dragon]

Oh damn.
Guess I'm big dum.

[ashen warren]

Never have i gotten this many stars in such short amount of time

this has to be dream

[ancient dragon]

Shoosh, nerd.

[ashen warren]

ok

[dull kite]

got 4 stars
yes worth freaking out omegalul

also I don’t think you’re supposed to Star your suggestions btw

[bitter topaz]

^

[dull kite]

but I’m not sure if it’s exactly against the rules

[ancient dragon]

Too late, Shadow Realm'd.

[ashen warren]

I got them in quick succession. Thats why i go

[lavish lily]

@ashen warren
Yeah I probably should've checked here first. Don't worry that's the only one I was planning on posting.

[ashen warren]

ok

[quiet abyss]

@signal ibex Uh, elaborate your suggestion please.
A whip is cool and all, but if you're just going to say "Whip - It's a basic whip. Right click to whip rapidly" and leave it at that no one won't really get it.
Like, how does it work? How can it be obtained? If it's craftable, what's the recipe? etc.

[versed grotto]

@sleek wadi bars of life aren't post ravager

[cyan lagoon]

They are in a mandatory boss only run

Its either that or fight plant and cryo

[versed grotto]

they can still craft bars of life without ravager

oh

reeeee

[bitter topaz]

free damage for untouchable/dead inside

but it's a nice suggestion though

[quiet abyss]

...Sh-shit busted

Me and LompL can just banned it, though the "No rarted dps rule" is there so...

[bitter topaz]

yeah i know, i just wanted to meme about it a little

in all seriousness i like it as a suggestion

[quiet abyss]

Also I know cool dudes can star suggestion, but are they allowed to star their own suggestions?

[bitter topaz]

i actually don't know

[quiet abyss]

I can star ragey and trashbox suggestions though they both need a bit of work I think

[ashen warren]

Do it

Star your own suggestion

[signal ibex]

Do i have to really do that

:/

Eh fine

The whip is so out of place.

oof.

[quiet abyss]

...Alright cool, and...
...When can it be obtained?
And how can it be obtained for that matter?

[signal ibex]

Post plantera

[quiet abyss]

Craft or drop from enemies?

[signal ibex]

Its a drop from any astral enemy.

[quiet abyss]

Add that and I'll star it then

[signal ibex]

okie

[tired haven]

Don't we also need elemental arrows?

[quiet abyss]

Mhm...well I mean.
The two "viable" bows we have post-ml pre providence are astreal defeat and planetary annihilation...and both have their own special arrows

And clockwork bow is meh

[dull kite]

clockwork > planetary

[dense girder]

@ashen warren hmmmmm

[ashen warren]

Accidentally hit enter and not enter+shift

[dense girder]

always make your suggestions in dms or your own server beforehand, it gives you time to edit and review it thoroughly pre-posting here too

[ashen warren]

_> That is a lot better than just typing here

[bitter drift]

na you can buy solar eclips, frost and pumpkin moon moon. lord and slime rain no one want to do more then once

[sudden quail]

lord?

If you mean blood moon, then you're sorely mistaken

[alpine copper]

The whip suggestion sounds somewhat similar to weaponout's whips

[signal ibex]

Nani

Then.

;-;

[gaunt quiver]

Are wulfrum slimes not affected by royal gel on purpose

[bitter topaz]

it's intentional

they're robots apparantly

don't ask how because i don't know

[gaunt quiver]

I thought they are made out of wulfrum ore

[bitter topaz]

nope, robots

[dense girder]

W a r n ' d

[bitter topaz]

the drone makes sense, but the slime? not so much

[gaunt quiver]

Yeah

[bitter topaz]

also this is the wrong chat btw

[gaunt quiver]

I was planning to suggest the royal crown thing

So I just wanted to make sure if it was intentional

[bitter topaz]

@cyan lagoon LORDE memer

again.

what in the everliving fuck is with suggestions

[fervent zealot]

fucking

did someone suggest the lorde

[dense girder]

yes

[gaunt quiver]

[bitter topaz]

this isn't the first time someones done it this week as well

[dense girder]

second time

[bitter topaz]

second dunce to suggest this garbage

[gaunt quiver]

Delete it

[dense girder]

mods aren't doing anything

[bitter topaz]

i've already taken a screenshot, i will never let LORDE go unpunished

[cyan lagoon]

@zenith lodge no.

[gaunt quiver]

Done

[cyan lagoon]

smh just wait odditer

[dense girder]

oh you started playing terraria so i assumed you hadn't noticed

apologies my lorde

[fervent zealot]

dIe

[tired haven]

Apparently they are not friendly with royal gel because none of calamity slimes are

[fervent zealot]

this is true as well

[sleek wigeon]

All calamitys slimes are robots, dontcha know?

Yes, even the plant slime

Filthy fuckin robot

[quasi fable]

are they drones of the slime god

[dense girder]

I'd make those slimes rare and drop a few bars, 3-4.

That seems pretty fair

[calm temple]

ok

[fervent zealot]

the ore slimes aren't just for less grind

they're so you can't run out of the ores

[calm temple]

I have to get 200+ bars for magic storage.

[fervent zealot]

that's not pure calamity, though

[dense girder]

iirc

you don't need cosmilite

magicstorage has its own substitute for non-calamity players

a green triangle thing

[fervent zealot]

you could also farm moon lord a shitton, yes, but that's less favorable

[dense girder]

ml's just tedious all in all

only tedious bit of DoG is cv

[fervent zealot]

besides, terra storage units are massive overkill

[crude quartz]

I only ever go for the evil upgrades

also iirc one of the devs said they had their own ideas for cosmilite grinding

[dense girder]

you could just call it vanadium

[earnest raptor]

Why?

[dense girder]

since vanadium is already an element iirc fuck chemistry and i don't see the diff between vanadium / vanadium ore

plus way too many ores as it is

[earnest raptor]

Many ores is funny.

It's fits with Terraria philosophy.

[dense girder]

uhh i don't get you

[earnest raptor]

Mining ores in Terraria - is feature.

[dense girder]

yes but with calamity there's like 30 ores

that is just way too many imo

it'd be nice to have a standalone element that doesn't have ore tacked on the end of it

[earnest raptor]

But how to getting these material?

[sinful violet]

Kill bosses

[dense girder]

mining, I guess

[earnest raptor]

Mining? You go to ore concept again.

[dense girder]

or bosses as mrrp said i dunno

mining =/= ore

you mine coal but coal isn't an ore, it's coal

i don't know enough about this to argue agh

[earnest raptor]

Coal is mineral.

[dense girder]

yes thank you

[earnest raptor]

Ores also minerals.

I'm want more minerals in terraria.

It's essentially and compares with usually gameplay.

[dense girder]

well just have vanadium as a... metal iirc that you mine

it doesn't have to be an ore and as i said there's like 30 ores

[earnest raptor]

Titanium not just pure ore irl.

[dense girder]

it doesn't have to be totally accurate

[earnest raptor]

But in terraria it's solid ore.

[dense girder]

orichalcum and adamantite don't even exist in real life

[earnest raptor]

titanium in irl always as second, as part of minerals
titanium in terraria is different type of stone block, it's parts only stone and titanium

Referencing to IRL not work in videogames.

[dense girder]

I just said it doesn't have to be totally accurate to real life

[vague olive]

Beating scal once gives enough for everything youll need tbh

Unless you want the fabstaff

[calm loom]

I want fabs plaything

[ancient dragon]

Would this fall under the 'no Shadowspec stuff' rule?

Well either way, Shadowspec is for dev stuff and it makes sense to have it be extremely difficult to acquire at all.

[uneven spoke]

^

[dull kite]

Yes it would

@ashen warren

[uneven spoke]

when you kill SCal once you can get some dev weapons and its easier to kill her again

[ashen warren]

oh

oof

[dense girder]

I think Fabsol would actually become demented if he had to program another UI for an item

[fervent zealot]

he didn't code the astral one too

[dense girder]

Also there's really no need for that since less waifus = less damage

[ancient dragon]

I'm sure he'd accept it if someone did it for him.

[dense girder]

woo cool dude grats

anyways bad suggestion imo

[ancient dragon]

Thanks, also maybe.

[vernal sphinx]

@ionic dragon yea boi

[gritty fern]

Should Cloud Elemental become an actual boss instead of a mini-boss or does that sound stupid?

[ancient dragon]

Pretty sure Brimmy's the only elemental boss and that's because of her role and exposition in the lore.

[gritty fern]

Cough Siren Cough

[shadow yoke]

Calamity has lore?

[brave warren]

yes

[shadow yoke]

gasp

[gritty fern]

yes

[ancient dragon]

Is the Siren an elemental though?

[gritty fern]

Well... She's basically the water elemental of the group

[ancient dragon]

Ehh, Iunno.

[gritty fern]

Meh.

I think she's an elemental

[sinful violet]

Not officially an elemental, but eh

[ashen warren]

Then why is she part of the Heart of Elements?

[sinful violet]

Because we needed five

[ashen warren]

[crude quartz]

Siren isn't a part of the elementals

the water elemental just takes the form of a siren when you summon it

[ashen warren]

Well that’s kinda dumb

Why not give it a unique appearance

[crude quartz]

amorphous blob anyone?

[sinful violet]

Yes

[delicate plume]

slime anyone?