you are right
#suggestions-discussion
bitter drift
opal barn
Shroomite is an ass to get
quiet abyss
Chlorophyte aint that hard. Just pop zen pot + mining pot
sudden quail
I reckon Crab would need some AI changes post-Golem to not make the fight boring
quiet abyss
Ye true
opal barn
If you haven't done a mushroom farm at the beginning
quiet abyss
^
bitter drift
and with the same logic dungen bosses will drop specter bars
lusty idol
Since SCal is becoming mandatory, will there have to be a new way of getting Calamitous Essence/Shadowspec Bars without having to farm SCal?
vague olive
You can just shoot crab for mushrooms
sudden quail
dungeon* Which boss, though?
lusty idol
or is it only for Dev items and not really part of progression?
sudden quail
Can't be Polterghast because he's like a super spectre
bitter drift
there is 2
quiet abyss
Nonono. The dungeon bosses in calamity are only CV and Polterghast, both of which post ml and by that point you dont need the spectre bars
sudden quail
He's a literal void covered in Cosmilite (?)
quiet abyss
Heck he’s not even dungeon related apart from being locked down there
bitter drift
so there are 3 bosses in the dungeon
quiet abyss
Skeletron does not count
pulsar notch
Dungeon guardian though 🤔
sudden quail
Skeletron also isn't related to Ectoplasm as he's simply a skull and bones
quiet abyss
Thats less a boss and more a miniboss lmfao
lusty idol
with a soul
bitter drift
how he is a demon ghost from the dungeon that is disguised as a curs
clever pendant
Someone: whiny voice ghost bones!!!!!111
sudden quail
Do you see any ectoplasm in his design and/or drops?
quiet abyss
Skeletron is clothier cursed as a giant skeleton demon
bitter drift
you know terraria they will not go back
clever pendant
I thought the Old Man was the Clothier
sudden quail
He is
quiet abyss
What wont go back?
sudden quail
Old Man is just the Clothier under the curse
clever pendant
So the Old Man is also Skeletron is what os being said???
sudden quail
No.
clever pendant
"Skeletron is clothier cursed as a giant skeleton demon" ???????????
lusty idol
Imagine a demon within you. basically something else inside you
sudden quail
Skeletron is a seperate entity serving as the Dungeon's guardian, but in a way "possessing" the Clothier.
clever pendant
Ah
lusty idol
only old men like herbert the pervert get those curses
pulsar notch
Stop deleting things
sudden quail
You should probably stop that now
lusty idol
i did like 2 min ago
pulsar notch
but we told you to stop two minutes before you said that
lusty idol
Uhh. Might've missed it?
I mean, I only deleted messages in another channel because they weren't the nicest of the things. But here it was only those funny messages.
pulsar notch
I need to sleep
lusty idol
Is very late. G'night.
pulsar notch
Gnight
lusty idol
Wait wtf. Discord actually changes your past messages to your recent profile changes?
wait, dammit. i could just put that in the suggestion itself. gonna have to delete more messages 
humble island
I was thinking bout something that could be cool. You know when you beat bosses like providence, past events and bosses are buffed? Maybe make an item dropped from yharon or someone (not SC) which buffs all the pre-hardmode bosses, making them more fun and challenging and redoable for more than money farming. Maybe buffed versions of their drops could come from these new ones too.
ancient dragon
...You mean like the old Demon Trophy and Celestial Onion?
humble island
Oh, those did that a while back?
I was unaware, only got into the mod like a month ago
humble island
Yea, just had a read through
sinful violet
”Cry”
quiet abyss
(Laughs maniacally as I recall flashbacks of melting prepare to cry Yharon with pre-nerf chicken cannon in less than a min)
ashen warren
BAGOCK
Uh
since they are an enemy drop, i dont think thats absolutely necessary.
Because they drop from enemies. @wanton sun
ancient dragon
mech boss summoners drop from enemies
ancient dragon
Nnnneat. They're still a pain in the ass to grind for and not having them as part of the boss-summon-buying QoL is just stupid.
inb4 zerg
ashen warren
Boss summon in Calamity are sold only after that boss is defeated anyways so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ancient dragon
It's also a suggestion that's already been made multiple times in the past, pretty sure.
wanton sun
i still find it annoying that out of all of them those two are missing
literally every other boss is in there
even the goblin army
ancient dragon
Yes, we get it. A lot of people have commented on it as well.
wanton sun
the goblin army.
ashen warren
Well, they are also accessories that let you kill a town NPC, so there's possibly another reason?
wanton sun
that seems like an absurd reason to exclude them
ancient dragon
^
wanton sun
the wizard carries tablets that summon impending doom and the devs would be against killing one npc?
ashen warren
Honestly having current NPC's sell the boss summons clogs their shop inventories anyways, especially in a mod pack
wanton sun
this has nothing to do with modpacks
ashen warren
Look at Dryad when she has only Vanilla and Calamity
Her inventory is really stuffed
tribal glen
Someone do a Copper Shortsword kill of THE LORDE. speaking of, why did they remove our Lorde and savior again?
ancient dragon
Die.
ashen warren
BECAUSE IT WAS A MEME
wanton sun
dryad is mostly useless anyway
look at the tavernkeep, even vanilla has literally no room
thats understandable but its still clogged
ancient dragon
Fabsol's the first person to completely disregard and throw other mods under the bus. I don't think this would be the reason to not add them.
tribal glen
They could have kept Lorde in the game as something unspawnable. It was actually fun to fight in my opinion
ashen warren
Tavern Keep has a lot of shop stuff because he's the only source of the DD2 crossover content
Wait
ancient dragon
Go download Apotheosis and Friends.
ashen warren
I heard that Fabsol doesnt want to change Vanilla code
yet the mod changes Vanilla content
tribal glen
That makes zero sense (revengeance and death)
wanton sun
fabsol or whatever is not the only person on the team
ancient dragon
...Okay?
tribal glen
I’m saying that revengeance and death both change vanilla things
ashen warren
No
tribal glen
Mainly AI
ancient dragon
What's this got do with anything, again?
wanton sun
clothier selling guide and clothier voodoo dolls
ashen warren
oof
ancient dragon
Also, if you wanna make the argument that the shops get swamped with items because of modpacks...
They're two cucking items. They're not going to make a difference.
ashen warren
Also, who suggests adding in content that isnt even in Vanilla yet?
ancient dragon
Oh yeah, that one's my favorite. :godlul:
wanton sun
that guy
ashen warren
Is smart
sinful violet
I mean
It’s confirmed stuff, so I don’t see too much of a problem with it, if they want it added in later versions.
But it probably still won’t happen
ashen warren
Probably because it isnt implemented
ashen warren
Because he's suicidal 
tired haven
Seems legit
ashen warren
ancient dragon
other mods
wanton sun
or just make the wizard sell both why not
ashen warren
Zwhy znot bothe?
worthy fiber
@bitter drift What?
bitter drift
what?
worthy fiber
Not sure what you just said in #suggestions-voting
neon panther
Translation:
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur (why not just Excalibur)
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
ashen warren
Uh
bitter drift
it's or this or this in melee
ashen warren
Why do we need to waste post mech boss weapons on WoF items?
bitter drift
still don't know
neon panther
I really can’t understand you
bitter drift
can someone give me an example of a good hard mod/post mech bosses mage weapen
quiet abyss
@bitter drift Please refine your suggestions.
Don't just say "Add this" and only say the names of the items you want the devs to add.
Please explain what the items does, how can it be crafted and most importantly, why it should be implemented.
Please give reasonable explanations rather than just posting something half-ass. Thank you.
neon panther
He means add recipes for the emblems
bitter drift
yes
elder sparrow
i got confused when i saw that
quiet abyss
^ this too
bitter drift
cuz this is why i have to wait 15 day for a facking ranger emblem
neon panther
not really, just kill wof a couple times
and there’s a few QoL mods where you can interchange emblems
bitter drift
and you will get 900 melee emblem
quiet abyss
Really? If you're making emblems craftable use more reasonable recipes.
bitter drift
i was starting didn't mean to post it yet
neon panther
go back and edit it
elder sparrow
farming is an element of the game, calamity just reduces the ones that are stupid
neon panther
yeah like farming for RoD
quiet abyss
Here's a tip: Post your idea in a document or any text file first
Edit it there, and when you're satisfied, copy from that file and post it here
bitter drift
and do you have a good mage weapen that is post hard mod or mech bosses
elder sparrow
mage is god in all parts of the game
bitter drift
but i'm using weapens of early hard mod and post mech bosses
elder sparrow
u need wand of sparking anyway 
quiet abyss
@worthy fiber That's kinda nice. Though having all 4 emblems dropping is going to be a funny sight to see.
Not to mention clogs players inventory 
bitter drift
yap
neon panther
If you want help for weapons to use I would go to #help-advice-read-pins
worthy fiber
It's a takeaway I suppose
quiet abyss
The good suggestions are usually simple but nice
tired haven
HM starter bag tbh
quiet abyss
HM starter bag huh?
tired haven
Which would include these emblems
neon panther
thats actually a great idea
elder sparrow
quiet abyss
Hmm, and maybe a couple souls of lights/nights to start off with?
neon panther
and 20 souls of flight
quiet abyss
That too
Hmm...so for HM starter bag idea there's:
A couple souls of nights/lights
20 souls of flights
And 4 emblems of each classes except throwing.
Poor throwing needs an early hm acc
tired haven
Flight, not fright lel
neon panther
pllsss throwing emblem
bitter drift
i'm done with my suggestion
tired haven
Throwing emblem is ehhhh
bitter drift
and i can do that
quiet abyss
Not a throwing emblem
tired haven
There are at the very least 2 other ones in mods
bitter drift
ok
quiet abyss
I'm saying something that's not just "Increase throwing damage by 15%"
worthy fiber
throwing velocity 👀
quiet abyss
A raider's talisman early hm upgrade, perhaps?
tired haven
Honestly I expected cryogen to give something to craft/drop such throwing acc
neon panther
someone suggested something like that iirc
I mean really you don’t get another good throwing accessory until statis belt
worthy fiber
In one of the docs iirc
neon panther
and then after that nanotech
tired haven
And belt isn't even that powerful compared to other class accs
neon panther
pre-hm -> post-plant -> post-dog
tired haven
Apart from free dash which is valor work anyway
quiet abyss
...That reminds me. Today I thought of 2 upgrades for spirit generator for summoner.
First upgrade after you can get unholy cores (hallowed pickaxe), second upgrade post-polterghast.
Not sure what I'm going to do with those 2 tho.
I'll think of smth maybe.
Is it bad that I want summoner to have their own ultimate class accessory not shared with throwing
worthy fiber
nah
worthy fiber
it's really weird how it has throwing attributes
rugged finch
Ranger has elemental quiver
worthy fiber
Magic has Ethereal Talisman, Throwing has Nanotech
...and Statis' Ninja Belt?
Throwing buffs in that thing should be replaced with sentry stuff tbh
quiet abyss
Statis's Belt of Curses...but it gives the same throwing stats as Statis Ninja Belt...
bitter drift
you know what sucks the fact i don't want to copy scared tools and cant find a way
worthy fiber
Copy them for what though
bitter drift
the upgrade of the emblems i'm trying to find a way to do it in a way that it won't mimic theres this is why i didn't post it
worthy fiber
You mean the sigils?
gusty geode
I gotcha @bitter drift
bitter drift
i like have an idea for the stats
bitter topaz
even with the soft cap it's a 10% damage boost
rugged finch
That is really strong, especially considering how easy its to craft
gusty geode
Emblems already give 15% more iirc
I thought it needed to be a much bigger buff for being post-Plantera
rugged finch
Its way to good
bitter topaz
emblems give 15%, which is why they're viable for most of the game
rugged finch
Perhaps add about 5% more damage (from 15%), and some more crit?
tired haven
Destroyer emblem cries in a corner
rugged finch
Oh yeah
quiet abyss
rugged finch
fuck
tired haven
Don't oriente on vanilla stuff tbf
quiet abyss
Nah, destroyer emblem is used for sniper scope, and later daedalus emblem
So it ain't forgotten by ranged
tired haven
Like, Laudanum is better than Putrid Scent 
And avenger emblem
And arguably even destroyer emblem
bitter drift
melee 20% damage 5% melee speed
range 20% damage 10% ammo not being used
mage 20% damage dead enemies drop mana stars
summon 20% damage and in critical condition you get a summon that will give dryad blessing like debuff will give 5% damage reduction
gusty geode
Changed recipe and moved it to post-ML
rugged finch
Extra summon slot, sounds like a pain to resummon
tired haven
Yeah tbh
rugged finch
Maybe an inflicted debuff?
bitter drift
like what
tired haven
Probably automatically summoned crystal or whatever
opal barn
Something like from Spirit Generator, maybe make it an upgrade
quiet abyss
Damnit, I had ideas for Spirit Generator upgrades but I've forgotten them
quasi fable
make it generate ghosty minions 
worthy fiber
Sounds oddly familiar to something else though 🤔
tired haven
Probably to that one thorium acc that summons some weird ghosts
quasi fable
then again I got a cool idea now
what if an accessory summoned more minions the longer you don't take damage
and when you take damage they poof away
tired haven
tired haven
Yeah, though additional summons have to ignore iframes/be single target, otherwise no dps increase
bitter drift
did a facking dead meme took my idea for upgrading the emblems
gusty geode
The funny thing is that Tremor adds a Throwing Lunar Pillar that would have made the Thrower Soul recipe make more sense, but nobody likes to talk about Tremor
Also yes
quasi fable
obv crafted with a broken hero sword, just look at the name 😎
bitter drift
@gusty geode i claim copy right
ashen warren
True everything meme
dense girder
A raider's talisman upgrade would be nice
alpine copper
One that doesn't make you take more dmg?
dense girder
one that remains viable for more than ten minutes
at most it has a 15% damage boost which isn't really amazing for 50 hits
dense girder
50% that's far too overpowered
alpine copper
Yup maybe 35
dull kite
this isn’t fargo smh
lusty idol
Shadowspec bars are reserved for Dev items or something, right? Don't we need a new tier of materials to continue progression since those items only or will shadowspec also become part of progression?
dense girder
Shadowspec will remain dev and a new tier will be introduced iirc
lusty idol
Ahh ok, good. I suggested an enemy a while ago that drops some calamitous essence since SCal is becoming part of progression. But it didnt make sense to have it if Shadowspec was for dev items.
dense girder
Calamitous Essence isn't a dev item, just used to make dev bars
So I think you can use essence for weapons
ashen warren
Nope
It drops from SCal, and nothing related to SCal can be suggested or else it will be ignored
dull kite
why would it be used? It’s sole use is to make shadowspec bars
dense girder
meh, it'd be a nice use to upgrade clonelamitas weaps e.g. Crushaw Crusher or Eviscerator
tired haven
How "miss" will be determined with multiple damage sources like spear of paleolith?
dense girder
Throwing a weapon with multiple projectiles that all miss would count as a miss
e.g. if you throw Vampire Knives, so long as one of them hits it's fine
lusty idol
When I heard of SCal changes, I immediately thought about the next tier of items but I just went with Shadowspec
ashen warren
@gusty geode that emblem suggestion is overpowered as HELL
gusty geode
Pushed Class Souls back even further to post-Yharon, and buffed them a little
dull kite
We already have the other upgrades to them..
heady comet
#suggestions-voting is also known as the land of broken english
ashen warren
planetary annihalation now has a gender
sleek yew
"him"
ashen warren
but fr
a dead meme suggested a 40% damage increase emblem upgrade earlier
what the hell
bitter topaz
my favourite one i've ever seen is still asterum de ass tbh
novel fulcrum
Language is suggestive and dose not mean more than you think it means
barren rain
That's higher than reaper tooth necklace
heady comet
dose kek
ashen warren
you're forgetting about that one meme we talk about bidoof 😃
sleek yew
@ashen warren atleast it doesn't raise rev caps
ashen warren
40% damage is overpowered as hell for being preml technically
bitter topaz
oh yeah never forget kermit rickroll
bitter topaz
so a post-ml variant of the lunic eye?
near crown
bitter topaz
i assume by late-game you mean the lunic eye
gritty crow
Kind of like the Lunic eye but it actually deals the specific class weapon damage
bitter topaz
it multiplies its damage by the amount of stat modifiers you have iirc
it could literally end up as a lunic eye which multiplies itself by the damage modifier without the percent ofc
so a base damage of 5 but if you hit the cap you'd get 375 total damage
ashen warren
ha
that sounds op as hell , depending on how the weapon shoots and how fast it shoots
opal barn
Chlorophyte isn't even that rare, and what would you need it for anyway at that point
hollow shell
@versed grotto Why?
hollow shell
Why would you need Chlorophyte after Providence?
hollow shell
also Auric Ore isn't supposed to be rare lol
versed grotto
there are shroomite and spectre bars
hollow shell
It's super abundant
opal barn
What would you need Spectre and Shroomite for then
hollow shell
And?
opal barn
Aether's whisperer takes only 7 bars
versed grotto
7?
hollow shell
Ye
bitter topaz
it's likely to assume you'd have a stockpile of chlorophyte from spelunking anyway
versed grotto
ok
hollow shell
Hell, you might get a lot of it while looking for Uelibloom
tardy blaze
@soft grail interesting suggestion, sounds cool
ashen warren
"even rarer than auric"
auric is probably the most common ore in my whole entire world
lusty idol
actually, because of the abundance, it wouldnt be bad to actually turn them into bars or something.
ashen warren
sprites and shit would make that annoying
lusty idol
...
ashen warren
it would change crafting recipes , recipe amounts , and it would be weird 
also
"auric bar" does not sound appealing
at all
lusty idol
Well, it doesnt necessarily have to be a "bar"
opal barn
"Bar made of Auric"
lusty idol
not that
" turn them into bars or something." i did say that
i wasn't commenting on whatever it is that happened.
about mobile stuff
ashen warren
@vital plover royal gel doesnt work with all modded slimes
bitter topaz
it's intended that it doesn't work with them anyway
ashen warren
^^
opal barn
What are these trash suggestions
cyan lagoon
wulfrum slimes aren't slimes
opal barn
@severe heath 
cyan lagoon
also eat a butt tera
severe heath
bitter topaz
at this point fab should just rename the server to "read the fucking pins" 
tardy blaze
sleek wigeon
If you want inf bullets, ya know there are mods
dedicated to that and only that
right?
eager rock
but u need to install other mods xD
and btw, i dont know if there are mods that add infinite bullets of calamity
bitter topaz
infinity has modded support
ashen warren
its called
infiniry
infinry
infinity
@gusty geode that emblem edit is still op as shit
ashen warren
40 ?
eager rock
i would change to 30
ashen warren
40% damage increase is overpowered as HELL
eager rock
or 25
ashen warren
that alone multiplies your dps by 1.5x
eager rock
i think that items that only have high stats are too boring
ashen warren
id make a good suggestion that i have in mind for an emblem upgrade but mobile
eager rock
what about for example, an upgrade to the ranger emblem, 20% dmg, 10% critical, and 1 shot have a chance to be a "headshot", doing 2x dmg
maybe 1 of every 20 shots
eager rock
yes
fck
xD
or seadragon, sfdmg, minigun...
but if u allow this accessory pre-yharim for example
i think there are more broken things at this mod
actually
"broken"
ashen warren
just download luiafk
soft grail
what about throwing damage? xeroc bars?
ashen warren
@ashen warren zoaklen mod does something like that adding vortex emblem that gives 25% damage to range and it has throwing
never used or heard of that mod
it’s somewhat lower quality but it has something similar to what your looking for
eager rock
i would add another effect
ashen warren
its not supposed to be really super duper good
ashen warren
You have the ethereal talisman and things like that, theres no point
eager rock
Only 1 accessory...
ashen warren
post dog is a big no no
eager rock
focused at mage class, for example, 1 accessory
ashen warren
post moon lord is small to begin with
not much to do right after moonlord
with you not needing to change many accessories until after dog when you get those accessories
ashen warren
@inner rover check art server resprite catalog
neon panther
@inner rover go to the art server and post in sprite submissions
eager rock
maybe adding more accessories would be nice
neon panther
You said a completely different thing tho
inner rover
hang on, Post it in the sprite submissions? I thought this was a Suggestions server
ashen warren
the art server
inner rover
And I agree with not exploded
ashen warren
what
neon panther
@wide tide I’m pretty sure they all have 1 accessory. Likely on purpose
inner rover
She Attac, then protec, more importantly, she thicc
ashen warren
she is a thickums
inner rover
ikr
ashen warren
but yeah , melee and mage accessories post ml are super powerful
compared to something like daedalus
ashen warren
throwing accessories are probably being implemented soon
NO
not at all
ranger is op as shit post ml
eager rock
ok ok
ashen warren
ranger is op as shit at every stage of the game
eager rock
halibut is fcking broken
ashen warren
@inner rover delete that suggestion , resprites are already being worked on , but you can still submit that in the art server
i really like how you did the female sign thingy tho
thats a nice touch
@ashen warren check pins in #calamity-mod-talk
lmao
I should be pinned everywhere since nobody understands
ashen warren
um
eager rock
pre-scal
eager rock
i wouldnt say that
ashen warren
ever
opal barn
Ranger is the best class to use smh
opal barn
Ranger sucks for Scal btw
ashen warren
heavenly gale got super nerfed
eager rock
thats the point
opal barn
He is Op everywhere else
eager rock
vs scal = mage
eager rock
thrower is good
ashen warren
thrower used to be op as hell on scal
eager rock
vs supreme
ashen warren
ban people who say halibut cannon is op
eager rock
i think the only class rly suffer against scal is ranger
ashen warren
celestus did 200k dps against scal
eager rock
WITHOUT halibut cannon
ashen warren
actually
heavenly gale against scal herself does 80k dps
thats not too too bad ig
eager rock
but if u compare celestus vs heavenly gate dps
ashen warren
celestus is worse
eager rock
against scal? xD
ashen warren
celestus has around 50k after the nerf
eager rock
lol
ashen warren
celestus isnt very good anymore
ashen warren
what version are you on
ashen warren
what mode do you play on
eager rock
rev
ashen warren
ok goo
celestus is physically incapable of reaching those dps marks anymore because of rev capa
ashen warren
how long ago
eager rock
yesterday xD
ashen warren
what accessory .
eager rock
guide to expert throwing
ashen warren
what does it do
eager rock
complete set
Throwing damage will duplicate itself for 1/2 of the damage. Will override any lesser
eager rock
the last version
eager rock
1.3.4.001
is the last version
more things, for example if u use illustrious knives, with the same accessory + nanotech
u almost instakill scal
so i dont know what cap have the rev mode xD
opal barn
If he is using Thorium accessories it is possible to reach a stupidly high amount of DPS, that's not suprising
eager rock
yes
that's why i said i really dont know the "real dps" of celestus
or another throwing weapons
violet talon
isn't there a dps cap on scal?
opal barn
There isn't a dps cap on Scal
eager rock
thats possible yes
violet talon
minions do need to be buffed lol
ashen warren
summoner doesnt need buffs post ml
but hardmode could use some love
so many emblem suggestions
neon panther
hypocrite 
ashen warren
hek
reef plover
i suggested it because i had to kill WoF around 10 times for a sorcerer emblem
went without sigil of calamitas for a while
neon panther
iirc there’s a bunch of QOL mods that already do that though
violet talon
@earnest raptor fab decides stats
earnest raptor
I'm mean, was Gelatinious Dart in most places twenty more powerful, that Gel.
earnest raptor
Changed...
ashen warren
um
violet talon
it wasnt
violet talon
gel = gelatinous
sleek wigeon
gel can be a material though
violet talon
(trying to sound smart)
sleek wigeon
its gel not gelantinous. maybe gelatin
earnest raptor
Gelatine more powerful, that regular gel
earnest raptor
Jelly Dart? unrealisitic
west prairie
this idea is terrible and makes no sense
west prairie
upgraded gel darts dont make sense thematically
you dont upgrade a consumable weapon with an unrelated ore
earnest raptor
@ashen warren i'm forget name of post-cryogen ore...
white laurel
you can edit messages instead of spamming you know
ashen warren
idk how to edit on mobile
white laurel
tap and hold on the message and select edit
white laurel
ye
violet talon
maybe like, wrapping around the enemy
white laurel
why would we need a help and advice emote
neon panther
salt
dense girder
yeah nvm salt
dull kite
yourdidit>salt
neon panther
^
dull kite
& i agree with wah, we don't really need a :helpandadvice: emote
brave warren
kill salt
ashen warren
posting this here to get feedback beforehand, But what if eye of cthulhu dropped mushroom grass seeds to make it easier to fight crabulon since sometimes finding the biome can be an ass
ashen warren
rng can suck sometimes
quiet abyss
^
dull kite
yeah them being bought from dryad sounds much better
quiet abyss
Another plague biome suggestion
violet talon
omg
quiet abyss
violet talon
fab hates spreading biomes
lol
really?
he already did final DoG change
he's not gonna nerf it anyway
quiet abyss
??? I kill Signus in only one adrenaline
During the DoG's fight Signus ain't that tanky
quiet abyss
Ranger too.
sinful violet
Ranger is one of the best for it
sinful violet
The high velocity projectiles really help
vernal sphinx
@sleek yew bruh the DoG fight version of Signus is already easy
ashen warren
Ikr
ashen warren
That'd be cancerous
ashen warren
and what, it'd inflict plague whenever you're in it?
neon panther
We should have a suggestion_info channel tbh, on things that wont be accepted, and things that are already planned
violet talon
suggest that
crude quartz
it would be easier to add it to the pins of #suggestions-voting
where other guidelines exist
neon panther
I mean it was my idea for suggestion_discussion (people suggested it before me but it came out like 3 days after i suggested so reeee) so maybe I can get suggestion_info
ashen warren
@neon panther 👏
cyan lagoon
Lol having another new channel for another random channel
crude quartz
yeah that's a bad idea
crude quartz
just add a thing to pins about not suggesting new biomes
because those kinda fall under the whole boss stipulation
neon panther
ehhh okay sure
gusty geode
I think it should be up to a poll. How many people actually would like a Plague biome? It could very well be one person's opinion vs hundreds.
Also it could be added if someone else does all the work for it, that's what fab said about vanities
sturdy dock
digital saddle
CRAFTABLE ENBLAMS melee: terra blade/escalibaer range: deadless storm bow mage: night's ray summoner: spider qeen staff all need as well: 50 cogs 10 gold bars next to lava and a orecalcom anvil (if you can't remove the lava and add a lava backet)
Can someone translate this
gusty geode
I just realized that would make Warrior emblem post-mechboss and the rest not
digital saddle
neon panther
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
Mage Emblem: Night’s Ray
Summoner Emblem: Queen Spider Staff
Used in all recipes: 50 cogs, 10 gold bars. Crafted at lava and a hardmode anvil.
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
Mage Emblem: Night’s Ray
Summoner Emblem: Queen Spider Staff
Used in all recipes: 50 cogs, 10 gold bars. Crafted at lava and a hardmode anvil.
fervent zealot
good luck translating thtat
neon panther
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
Mage Emblem: Night’s Ray
Summoner Emblem: Queen Spider Staff
Used in all recipes: 50 cogs, 10 gold bars. Crafted at lava and a hardmode anvil.
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
Mage Emblem: Night’s Ray
Summoner Emblem: Queen Spider Staff
Used in all recipes: 50 cogs, 10 gold bars. Crafted at lava and a hardmode anvil.
Craftable Emblems
Warrior Emblem: Terra Blade/Excalibur
Ranger Emblem: Daedalus Stormbow
Mage Emblem: Night’s Ray
Summoner Emblem: Queen Spider Staff
Used in all recipes: 50 cogs, 10 gold bars. Crafted at lava and a hardmode anvil.
gusty geode
:yourdidit:
neon panther
There’s your English version
fervent zealot
google translate doesn't make typos
violet talon
um lol
gusty geode
How do you even get night's ray
violet talon
why say that?
violet talon
basically mage's night's edge
neon panther
Also they are all post-mech, they need cogs
gusty geode
Oh yeah right
ashen warren
understandable
violet talon
LOL
gusty geode
Terra Blade is post-All mechs tho
violet talon
he thinks demonshade is good...
fervent zealot
possest shell
gusty geode
I had suggested a Plague Lab structure as an alternative to the Plague biome a while back, could repost the Doc it was on
crude quartz
:yourdidit: when
digital saddle
You know a structure I always wanted
"The vault"
Basically a huge treasure trove of gems, gold furniture, and money
Spawns on outer edges of the world at cavern layer
One per world
gusty geode
That would be cool
violet talon
ive noticed something 'bout adir's suggestions
digital saddle
Inspired by the vault in Diablo 3
muted birch
Couldn't you just type it out again?
quiet abyss
^ red messages can be resend
muted birch
That too
violet talon
ik, but because i sent them at that time
gold is too easy to get
well
coins
maybe if it was bars and not coins then that's a kool idea
digital saddle
I was thinking maybe some golden weapons that could only be found in chests there
fervent zealot
nah i'd say stick to annoying to get vanilla things
lucky coin would actually be the perfect kind of thing for shrine or other similar structure loot
worthy fiber
that’d be great actually
fervent zealot
because it's not game breaking in any way and is just annoying to grind for
fervent zealot
at the same time another simply underground shrine would be not fun to find
digital saddle
I have to question the choice to make papyrus scarab a pre hard mode accessory
fervent zealot
summoner gets almost nothing good that early
quiet abyss
Well, not just papyrus scarab
fervent zealot
it's not even that strong of an accessory
quiet abyss
Other hm accs can be found in calamity shrines as well
worthy fiber
it’s all optional anyway
violet talon
i got clinger staff pre-hm
digital saddle
Yeah but most of them suck
violet talon
bc imksushi's loot swap token
quiet abyss
digital saddle
Flesh knuckles
quiet abyss
Magic cuffs aren't hm either
worthy fiber
magic cuffs too
quiet abyss
And tiger climbing gear
worthy fiber
but they’re good stuff to find
gusty geode
Isn't Papyrus Scarab post-plantera
worthy fiber
yes
digital saddle
Doesn't golem drop scarab
quiet abyss
Papyrus Scarab is made of Hercules Beetle and Necromantic Scroll
Necromantic Scroll is dropped by Pumpking, while Hercule Beetle can be bought from Witch Doctor at night with pygmy staff in inventory
Both of which are post-plantera, so Papyrus Scarab is post-plantera.
Events don't count as progression points
digital saddle
Honestly it's pretty damn op for a pre hm accessory
But summoner needs it lol
quiet abyss
OP?
fervent zealot
it's not really that strong for a phm acc
quiet abyss
1 more minion and 10% damage ain't that op
fervent zealot
oh it's 10% not even 15%?
gusty geode
Give yourself the right name and Murasama becomes usable pre-Yharon and therefore theoretically pre-boss
From what I hear
quiet abyss
That's correct
violet talon
trudat
digital saddle
Emblems are 15% dmg and they're used well into hm
quiet abyss
Gotta have pity for summoners, ya know?
fervent zealot
summoner gets what, one other phm accessory?
quiet abyss
Spirit Generator
fervent zealot
yeah that's the only other acc i can think of for summon phm
neon panther
I mean thrower only gets raider’s talisman
gusty geode
Calamity should make something like Tremor's Adventurer Spark
violet talon
tremor my fav mod
neon panther
and it doesnt get another accessory until post-plant
gusty geode
Maybe even steal it directly to show them how it feels 
violet talon
OOF
quiet abyss
Though honestly, spirit generator is a godsend for being pre-boss.
The buffs you get from it are actually quite good and it can last you up to atleast until post-plantera
fervent zealot
thrower kind of makes up for in raw power what it lacks in accessory gimmicks
i mean have you seen what grenades do to perforators
quiet abyss
"Whenever a minion hits an enemy, the player will gain one of these buffs: Spirit Power, Spirit Defense or Spirit Regen.
Spirit Regen grants more life regen. Spirit Defense increases defense by 5 and damage reduction by 5%. Spirit Power increases minion damage by 10%. "
Those 3 buffs are quite great
fervent zealot
death perfs as a first boss is actually a viable strategy
we should probably take this over to #calamity-mod-talk
neon panther
‘Bout to say
gusty geode
Would make sense, or even pre-DS to drop the summoning material
Really, what do the Stormlions have to do with the Dried Ocean Worm
fervent zealot
make steampunker phm
sleek yew
^
sinful violet
god no
gusty geode
Post-WoF
fervent zealot
alright then make the clentaminator craftable
and solutions craftable too for that matter
gusty geode
Or doesn't sell jetpack until Hardmode
sleek yew
post-cryogen?
fervent zealot
how so
digital saddle
There's a huge island of it
sleek wadi
Evil island
digital saddle
And you get shittons by beating eow/boc
fervent zealot
yeah have you seen how much demonite/crimtane eow/boc drops
quiet abyss
He's prolly suggesting the devs to make one
gusty geode
Ye
sleek wadi
The color scheme is already figured out, so just repainting Cryonic Ore would be easy
digital saddle
If they did that
Then
It needs to be something like
20 hallowed ore +soul of might, sight, fright
= 5 hallowed bars
sleek yew
then bars would be post mech bosses
sleek yew
oh nvm alternatives
fervent zealot
just make it the ore += any one of the souls
there, viable mech alts hallowed source
digital saddle
Daedalus armor is pretty op honestly
Literally 0 reason to craft hallowed anyways
gusty geode
Terra Blade
sleek wadi
I think hallowed has the better mage armor
gusty geode
And Drax/Pickaxe Axe
digital saddle
Ice chunk is also basically a better optic stafg
lucid marsh
Ice chunk isn’t very good though. Wait I have an idea
I’ll post it in a second
Two words: Ancient Eyece chunk
fervent zealot
did you just insult ice claspers
dull kite
are you trying to make a pun in suggestions
gusty geode
I'm amazed there haven't been any "that's op af" complaints about the Spirit Heart
fervent zealot
wof gear is basicially phm
bit of an issue there though
wof kill itself is the hm trigger, not "the spirits of light and dark have been released"
fervent zealot
ti would be nice to have the hallow/evil spawns be tied to an item though
neon panther
@gusty geode would have to ignore lunatic cultist though, since you need to fight him at least once to fight ML
gusty geode
Would still work, a special reward for fighting only the mandatory bosses
wanton sun
Yeah I can't really tell the difference between layers
dreamy portal
is yharim ever going to be a boss
sleek wadi
Yes
sleek wadi
Yes
dreamy portal
yay
sleek wadi
Scal is getting demoted when Yharim is implemented
fervent zealot
@worn storm put it all into one post or it won't be starred
worn storm
Oki
dreamy portal
does anyone know when hes coming
sleek wigeon
no
hollow shell
(also if you could state the ideas a bit more clearly and more organized, that would be great, Lax)
sleek wigeon
maybe in 2020
dreamy portal
just a rough guess
hollow shell
There's really no estimate at all for when Yharim is getting in
sleek wigeon
2020, theres your rough guess
dreamy portal
ok
sleek wigeon
2/20/2020
fervent zealot
acually lax just delete it all i know what you're going for i'll add it to my post
sleek wigeon
(my birthday, coincidently)
quiet abyss
"eniemes"
Nice spelling 👍
fervent zealot
yeah lax i think it'd be better if i just helped you out and reworded it and added it to my post
that sound okay to you?
hollow shell
(I don't think Lax's idea is very good, and is in contradiction to your idea)
quiet abyss
The way lax worded his suggestion is kinda hard to intrepret and understand
fervent zealot
i speak that sort of b roken english well enough to know what he means
worn storm
Hold up let me edit it
gusty geode
Still hoping for a 5th layer in the Underworld
fervent zealot
lax are you sure you don't want me to help you out and reword it
worn storm
@earnest raptor issue is it leaves floor 2 as still the same
fervent zealot
@worn storm i'm asking you a question i could help you refine it into something better and add it to my post for a better chance to get starred
quiet abyss
@tame magnet Boss in abyss is unlikely, as the devs don't accept boss suggestions
gusty geode
Cthulu is relevant to what little vanilla Terrarian Lore there is, so it makes sense
tame magnet
did I?
quiet abyss
Do remember that boss suggestions aren't accepted
sleek wigeon
not really. moonlord is very much implied to be a cthulu stand in
tame magnet
That's right.
fervent zealot
moon lord is cthulhu's brother
tame magnet
Yes
sleek wigeon
cousin
quiet abyss
But miniboss suggestions has a very small chance to get in
sleek wigeon
but close enough
tame magnet
Distant COusin
fervent zealot
probably half brother actually
hollow shell
step cousin twice removed
tame magnet
yeah
gusty geode
Also his eye and brain are in this game
sleek wigeon
his much more powerful cousin
hollow shell
in law
sleek wigeon
3rd cousin twice removed
tame magnet
Good point
fervent zealot
also squid your idea seems hot and i'm in the mood to make another hot abyss suggestion
sleek wadi
Yeah Cthulhu seems to be fucking dead in lore.
tame magnet
Maybe insted a statue of Cthulu could be in the Temple
fervent zealot
want to formulate a good abyss idea post
quiet abyss
A miniboss spawning in the throne room you mentioned is probably a better idea than a boss.
Especially since Threats of the Ocean Floor is supposed to be Abyss minibosses theme.
Boss suggestions aren't accepted, but minibosses are
tame magnet
Yeah, good point
gusty geode
Remember that Abyssal Caverns suggestion that I said I'd make a doc on but didn't
sleek wigeon
threats of the ocean floor isnt really needed
quiet abyss
I mean...a cool miniboss in the throne room with that theme playing while fighting him would be quite cool
sleek wigeon
abyss has such good atmosphere and calamity has such a large file size already
earnest raptor
Chtulhu Son! @quiet abyss
sleek wadi
Have the miniboss spawn ontop of the throne and remain passive until attacked
quiet abyss
No need to tag me when I'm active in the conversation ya know..
earnest raptor
It's not actually Chtulhu, but theses cute son-miniboss.
sleek wadi
Incredibly buff fish people
gusty geode
still funny how Abyss minibosses got a theme and none of the others did
sleek wadi
Can't be R'lyeh without fish people
Getting constantly jumped by an intro because that seahorse thing popped up sounds annoying I can see why they aren't a thing
quiet abyss
Abyss Minibosses getting a theme is kinda justifiable in that they're powerful enough to be bosses.
Heck, if they're given more diverse movesets and HP they could very well be bosses
gusty geode
How about a Left Alone remix for Cloud Elemental tho
quiet abyss
Cloud Elemental doesn't need it
And it wouldn't fit
Left Alone is a sad, tragic theme
gusty geode
Or mashup of Fly of Beezlebub and Boss 4 for Plaguebringer
quiet abyss
Plaguebringer dies easily anyway
Abyss minibosses atleast kind of deserved the theme since they're all very powerful.
But the rest of the minibosses like Plaguebringers and Cloud Elementals? That wouldn't fit
sleek wadi
There are a lot of mini-bosses in calamity, especially if our definition of mini-boss is "High HP+Picked up on lifeform analyzer"
earnest raptor
If you want Cloud Elemental's theme, i'm suggest "Heavenly Clouds" by Lind Erebros.
quiet abyss
Cloud Elemental doesn't need a theme