suggestions-discussion

[dense girder]

SHIT

NO

[rugged acorn]

you

FOOL

[hazy glacier]

murasamsama

[dense girder]

murasama = muramasa

got it

[safe gust]

I like the placable bars suggestion but I feel that the energy and time put into that is a bit extensive and could be used for other cool stuff. Who really uses bars for building anyways

[hazy glacier]

well

gold bars

but that’s about it lol

[violet talon]

well

shadowspec bars would be placed to show your wealth

[dense girder]

demonshade bars

[hazy glacier]

calm your calamity

[dense girder]

[vital grotto]

imatable why woudl you ever want to change the excalibur recepie

especially making it more obnoxious to cvraft

[dense girder]

he means @ashen warren

[ashen warren]

Uh, Its extremely easy to get compared to Nights Edge

[dense girder]

^

[violet talon]

but

i doubt vanilla recipes are gonna be changed

[cobalt ferry]

How about we change it back to its old recepy then

[violet talon]

hasnt been changed

[cobalt ferry]

Is that better for you?

Yes it has

[ashen warren]

Uh, Its extremely easy to get compared to Nights Edge

Just get some bars and hallelujah

[cobalt ferry]

Back in my day

[violet talon]

not like his posts are gonna get 35 stars lol

[cobalt ferry]

Hallowed bars didnt exist

[dense girder]

rude

[violet talon]

and fabsol will think it's dumb anyways

[dense girder]

ruder

[ashen warren]

:/ Whatever

[cobalt ferry]

You needed all three hardmode barswords

[ashen warren]

Honestly my suggestions are shit in the eyes of the Calamity community so :/

[cobalt ferry]

And a shitton of souls

[dense girder]

we know but still

[ashen warren]

We don’t need a history of the Excalibur please

[dense girder]

it's not a huge deal to add shards and souls

zerg gets you souls by the billions and crystals are easy enough

[cobalt ferry]

Hallowed itself is no longer the mass weapon it used to be

[ashen warren]

It makes some sense

Hallowed allows Providence to spawn

:/

[cobalt ferry]

It used to take hours upon hours to get the full hallowed equipment set

also it was the best gear

[ashen warren]

WE DONT NEED A FULL HISTORY

Also your suggestion is pretty, reasonable

[cobalt ferry]

Bloody edge should do little damage, but have lifesteal

That steals life

Not

[ashen warren]

35 damage sounds fair enough

[cobalt ferry]

A bandaid every minute

[ashen warren]

:/

I mean you can’t swing it in any direction so theirs the twist

[violet talon]

fabsol decides stats lol

give him a reason for it to be nerfed, first of all

and dont suggest stats

[ashen warren]

What. Why? Why make Goozma biome specific?

We know the rules

[bitter topaz]

no boss suggestions is no new bosses afaik

[violet talon]

^

afaik?

[bitter topaz]

so you can't suggest "plz add Almighty Vorelord: Zachary"

afaik = As far as i know

[violet talon]

oh

makes sense lol

meh

not too bad

but they're individual boss fights

so it kinda dosnt make sense

lead core is easy to get

doesnt need a recipe

[ashen warren]

@violet talon Got any other reasons aside from "i think it's easy"?

[violet talon]

just zerg lol

at that point, you should be able to survive zerging in the rain

[ashen warren]

I do that, it's not enough

[violet talon]

also calamity is basically a grinding mod

[ashen warren]

Pfft, boss grinding maybe

other than that, not especially

[violet talon]

might actually be a good idea tho

maybe some lead and darksun fragments

[ashen warren]

Lead isn’t in every world tho

[violet talon]

well

you can convert iron to lead, right?

[ashen warren]

Nope

[cyan lagoon]

no

[violet talon]

or is that bc i have imksushi?

[ashen warren]

Ink sushi and Fargo

*Imk

Jesus auto correct

[violet talon]

i dont think jesus wants to autocorrect things

[ashen warren]

Yeah

Anyways

Wtf my recipe thing has 12 Stars this is bull shit

[violet talon]

huh?

[ashen warren]

Look

[bitter topaz]

@lament turret keep it confined to one post, so it can all be starred

[lament turret]

That was 2 separate suggestions

That's why I put it in 2 posts

[bitter topaz]

oof

nevermind then

[lament turret]

Haha, no worries

[bitter drift]

@lament turret you right the minions are not attacking dick fishron they always miss the BASS

[lament turret]

It gets so infuriating.

And honestly, that's the hardest part of playing Summoner

[bitter drift]

got it

[lament turret]

It's fun because you're entirely focusing on dodging, but GAH

[bitter drift]

read the line again it was a pun

[lament turret]

No, I saw it

I just chose to ignore it

I always do that to puns

[violet talon]

i dont get it

nvm

but why the bass

ik bc of fish

[dense girder]

@gusty geode maybe name your doc so it's easier to see what it is

"Oh boy my favorite suggestion of the week was Untitled document"

[ashen warren]

Oooof

[violet talon]

oof *

[gusty geode]

Rip ik

Looking back I probably should have put it here because I hadn't even gotten to drops yet

[violet talon]

meh

it makes sense for them to be in seperate channels

[sleek wigeon]

Yes, remove all their uniquness as classless armor and make them the same as every other armor

sure

[violet talon]

all other armors were classless before too, right?

or am i being a dumb?

[round falcon]

yes they were

but astral is a sidegrade

and demonshade is bad regardless

yes
i just said a dev armor is bad
so what

[violet talon]

it is bad

[gusty geode]

[bitter topaz]

it's commonly agreed upon that demonshade is bad

but only the post-ml armours were classes before anyway

astral doesn't really need anything besides a buff tbh

[gusty geode]

Wasn't Demonshade the one you made with Shadowspec

[violet talon]

yee

[bitter topaz]

yes, it is

[gusty geode]

Almost typed Semonshade

[round falcon]

xeroc, astral, and demonshade are the only classless calamity armors iirc

[gusty geode]

Afaik Crimtane's the only vanilla one

[round falcon]

besides phm ore armors

[violet talon]

also maybe xeroc should be throwing

just throwing

dumb idea tho lol

[round falcon]

common suggestion

[gusty geode]

Throwing is overrated

[dense girder]

ye

[gusty geode]

It's just ranger but you don't shoot your ammo out of anything

[round falcon]

throwing is honestly not a good class

just a ranger who throws their bullets

[gusty geode]

Why is it so popular

[round falcon]

because its not well-developed

[dense girder]

all men are rangers technically so we should stick to that

[cobalt ferry]

the real question

is

why isnt wulfren classless

why cant it just give 10 mana, 1 summon, 5% movespeed, 4% damage, 4% crit chance, and defence?

[violet talon]

that would be too op

it's early game ffs

[cyan lagoon]

not even close to op

the other classless armors have the same stats they give

[violet talon]

now that i think about it

i dont really like my idea anymore

[sleek wigeon]

Having just a free extra summon would be p powerful

maybe a classless helm and a summon helm

victide is being reworked

so moot point

[cyan lagoon]

we don't know when its getting reworked though

and plus victide is worse than wulfrum for summoners

[cobalt ferry]

Wulfren summoner helmet allready gets a summon

[violet talon]

thought it was wulfrum lol

[sleek wigeon]

it is

[cobalt ferry]

Wulfren helmet (summoner) allread gets a bonus summon at the cost of 2 defence

[sleek wigeon]

wulf rum

[cobalt ferry]

Shh

[sleek wigeon]

warum

[cobalt ferry]

It has a really good setbonus

Attached to really shitty armor

{If you arnt using the summoner helmet}

[violet talon]

that's also a pvz reference lol

[sleek wigeon]

not good idea. taking control away from the player isnt great.

Isnt that just lore items?

@odd quartz

Because thats litterally just that thing i said

[hollow shell]

Yeah that's just the lore items @odd quartz

[odd quartz]

Oh

Oof I forgot that this channel existed hehe

[hollow shell]

It's a good channel to frequent if you're a poster of suggestions

[sleek wigeon]

Also a good channel to frequent if you are me

[odd quartz]

I have alot more that I wrote down during class

I just gotta find the paper lol

[sleek wigeon]

its litterally just lore items though

dont bother

[odd quartz]

No, I ment other suggestions

Mainly just aesthetics because it makes almost any mod better imo

[heady comet]

Infinite flight for a few seconds

[sleek wigeon]

Calamity does not like its aesthetics

unless your willing to code, sprite and implement it yourself

[winged mortar]

Like your ghost when you die in hardcore

[sleek wigeon]

that would be completely useless

[winged mortar]

I could be useful for exploration

But it would have to last longer then

[white laurel]

It wouldnt be useless ijones, infinite flight would be quite helpful against bosses

[cobalt ferry]

ijones72

i meant

not controll away from the player

just

make it do EVERYTHING all the helmets allready do

together

cause

[heady comet]

Dont talk like an invalid

[cobalt ferry]

wulfrum six

sux*

no

i like seperating my sentances like this

i didnt used to

untill someone showed me how to do it

[white laurel]

Stop speaking in fragments

[cobalt ferry]

a problem i have is that i type in ways others do

ok

[white laurel]

stop speaking in fragments

Its obnoxious and floods chat

And dont think I didnt see that no

[cobalt ferry]

shh

[hollow shell]

RIP sunskater apparently

[calm temple]

my summons dont attack them until i ram myself into one.

[hollow shell]

Pure summoner?

Get a Lunic Eye smh

[ashen warren]

Did Nobody get the message that Goozma is no longer a slime?

[gritty crow]

Well I mean he still is called GOOzma

[dense girder]

what happened to the sunskater aaaaaaa @hollow shell

[hollow shell]

referring to A_Person's suggestion

(don't worry, skeet is fine)

[dense girder]

whew

[steep island]

@hazy glacier mana regen pot???

[hazy glacier]

yeah I’m dumb

that’s why I deleted it

[ashen warren]

People wanted this a while ago

The Elementals shall expand in numbers

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren

[ashen warren]

And?

What does this mean?

[tight chasm]

Pffft

[white laurel]

The enemy is called a chaos elemental

[tight chasm]

That's a vanilla enemy called "chaos elemental"

[ashen warren]

I know what that is

Smh it’s the only Vanilla source of the RoD

[white laurel]

You named one of your enemies chaos elemental

[ashen warren]

Oh shit

[tight chasm]

It would be confusing for newcomers to have two enemies share the same name

Or anyone really

[ashen warren]

I may have been carrying the naming too far

I’ll fix the names

Uh, is Eleume spelt correctly?

[white laurel]

Nope

[hollow shell]

no, it's "Eleum"

[white laurel]

Eleum

[ashen warren]

Less E

[hollow shell]

(i thought the slight difference was intentional lol)

[ashen warren]

Fixed it

[hollow shell]

Well now they could get it confused with the "Essence of..." names

[ashen warren]

Fuck

Any idea then?

Pardon me if I seem rude

[hollow shell]

you could have the element be an adjective to what they are
like "Cinderous Spirit", "Chaotic Wraith", "Eleumal Warrior"

(i dunno the adjective form of 'eleum' cuz its a made-up word)

[ashen warren]

Seems good

[hollow shell]

👌

[ashen warren]

Done

[gusty geode]

Had a decent sized doc of suggestions that nobody paid attention to because I messed up the title

Wait now I see the stars, was hoping for some criticism

[ashen warren]

Oof

Good stuff mate

I especially like the Plague Wreckage

[white laurel]

@cobalt ferry suggestions with over 35 stars are sent to a chat that only some can see, there is no reason for them to be deleted

[ashen warren]

It does that, but it goes to the devs

Shit my timing

[cobalt ferry]

oof

[ashen warren]

Throwing Helmet buffs huh

Nice

[earnest raptor]

Comet armor from balance have 60% bonus throwing damage, xeroc - only ≈25%.

What's i'm use?

[ashen warren]

Du fuck?

[earnest raptor]

No.

In other mods throwing armor almost greater, that calamity's.

I'm not like these.

[white laurel]

Just because it exists in another mod doesnt mean it should be the same in calamity

In fact, it means the opposite

Calamity has very different balance

There is also a difference in the strength of the weapons themselves

[earnest raptor]

[ashen warren]

He is very correct

[earnest raptor]

I'm not want use calamity armor, if theses more weak, that vanilla (for example).

[white laurel]

The only throwing armors in vanilla are ninja and fossil

You dont have much of a choice in terms of throwing armor

And the balance works fine as of now, if it aint broke, dont fix it

[ashen warren]

^

[earnest raptor]

Vanilla throwing armor greater, that all pre-hard calamity armors.

[white laurel]

Statigel, aerialite, etc. have other bonuses to compensate

[ashen warren]

^

A recipe that uses another Lunar Fragment?! WHA???!!!

That’s the Good Shit

[earnest raptor]

Set bonuses of Statigel and Aerospec is great, but... damage, fossil deal more...

[white laurel]

Use fossil if you want more damage, use statigel if you want extra boosts or more defense

Problem solved

[earnest raptor]

🤔

Yep.

[white laurel]

If the armor sets are to have a damage increase, it could very well break balance at that point in game

Again, calamity throwing weapons typically do more than vanilla

[earnest raptor]

But i'm save my suggestion.

[ashen warren]

@reef plover Statis belt is also a summoner accessory

Rip

[reef plover]

it adds to my other suggestion

new dog summoner accessory

because it's summoner + throwing, which is weird

[ashen warren]

Oof

[alpine copper]

Tbh statis belt should be thrower only

[ashen warren]

Nah

It tells us about what Statis was

[alpine copper]

A ninja right?

Oh

Summoner thrower

Now I got it

[ashen warren]

And a summoner, according to clues

Lol

[reef plover]

maybe add to lore?

makes more sense than to impact gameplay

[alpine copper]

Impact.....

I have an idea

[ashen warren]

Hmm

[alpine copper]

There

[ashen warren]

Hahaha

No

That suggestion is more vague than anything

[alpine copper]

How so?

[ashen warren]

Maybe make the weapon(s)

[tired haven]

Best I could think of is Yharim's sword upgrade with those

Since he is one to give lore

[alpine copper]

Blade of the cruel world

[reef plover]

Maybe they'll change Exoblade lore and make a true exoblade

along with True Tyrant's Ultisword

can't forget about that

[ashen warren]

We don’t need a True version of everything

[tired haven]

true halibut cannon when

[ashen warren]

No

[clever pendant]

True Halibut Cannon, drop from Goozma

[ashen warren]

Shm

[clever pendant]

Shaking head my

[gusty geode]

[night cradle]

True halibut Cannon
Halcannon + broken hero sword
Done

[tired haven]

[ashen warren]

broken hero gun part

if it was broken hero sword, it wouldn't make sense

[tired haven]

Nah
In terraria everything true is made by broken hero sword

Everything else is heresy

[sleek wigeon]

draedons heart suggestion is good

nothing more to say i dont think

[tired haven]

If iframes won't break as on nearly every item, it would be cool

[sleek wigeon]

might be a tad powerful, being 2 embelms basically

but its post moonlord so eh

[rugged acorn]

tbf it is 30 luminite bars and a combination of 2 really strong pre-hm accessories

[tired haven]

3* but HoD is shit

[sleek wigeon]

hence 2

[rugged acorn]

it's a post-ML rev+ accessory

[sleek wigeon]

only 2 of the accessories are really strong

[rugged acorn]

i think it deserves to be pretty strong

[tired haven]

Tbh with these stats it becomes like postDoG acc

[sleek wigeon]

ha

[rugged acorn]

perhaps

[sleek wigeon]

what are afflictions stats again>

[rugged acorn]

+2 / +3 life regeneration
+5% / +7% damage reduction
+15 / +20 defense
+10% / +12% increased damage
+5% / +10% maximum health

2nd numbers are in rev+

[sleek wigeon]

i feel like it used to be better

[tired haven]

It was

[sleek wigeon]

something like 30%-45%

[tired haven]

Well, not as much, most noticeable was 45 def on rev

Damage stats were roughly same

[rugged acorn]

affliction giving 7% DR and 20 def is better than 25 def im p sure

gives more defensive stats than offensive tho

so no crit

[sleek wigeon]

damage is the main concern about draedons heart buff though

[rugged acorn]

and no mspd

true, a potential 22% damage increase

[wintry raptor]

7% DR and 20 def is better than 25 def for attacks that do more than 214 damage based off of my quick calcs

[sleek wigeon]

plus the crit chance

[wintry raptor]

although I have no idea lmao

[sleek wigeon]

maybe remove the +10% under heart attack

[rugged acorn]

exchange the +10% under heart attack for a slightly faster rage gen?

[wintry raptor]

I think I'm just dumb

[sleek wigeon]

i think so too

damage reduction is .75 of defense

so 7% dr must absorb about 4 damage

which is less than 100 attack

[tired haven]

7% dr 20 def is equal to 25 def with around 100 dmg attack

Well, actually less,yeah

[rugged acorn]

if im doing the math right

an attack must do minimum 54 damage for the 7% dr 20 def to match 25 def

[sleek wigeon]

which raises the question

[wintry raptor]

remember 20 def will prevent 15 damage in expert

[rugged acorn]

25 def blocks 19 damage, 20 def blocks 15

[wintry raptor]

and 25 will prevent 18.75

[rugged acorn]

7% must block 4 to equal

4 / 0.07 = 53.58

[heady comet]

What if supreme calamitas had a hit counter

[rugged acorn]

[tired haven]

Impossibruh

[wintry raptor]

what if you had bombs that you could use to remove all the bullets from the screen

[rugged acorn]

what if you weren't actually playing terraria

what if you had some amazing armpits

[sleek wigeon]

i think i'd be p happy

[wintry raptor]

what if this is actually just a dream all along

[sleek wigeon]

i only have 1/2 those things currently\

[heady comet]

What if i stole suggestions

[sleek wigeon]

cant be a dream

new vegas is beeping constantly because im alt tabbed

something i would never dream up

[heady comet]

What if brimbo made female hurt noises instead of moth hurt noises

[rugged acorn]

armor made of all preHM armors probably would have to be limited to ninja, shadow/crimson, meteor, jungle, necro, victide, aerialite, hellstone armors

would just be tedious to include copper-->gold

[sleek wigeon]

besides, my dreams generally have more snakes with fangs that extend into my arm like swords while im holding their head away from me

[rugged acorn]

would also be a pain in the ass since world gen could give you alternating ores

[sleek wigeon]

yes, that is as horrifying as it sounds

[tired haven]

And they contribute literally nothing other than defense

Which is a waste anyway

[rugged acorn]

if the combined preHM armors gave the set bonuses from the copper->gold armors that would be broken as fuck

huh, TIL, pumpkin armor's set bonus is +10% damage

[wintry raptor]

yeah

its great early game armour

especially if its the time of year where it spawns naturally

[bitter topaz]

pumpkin armour is unironically viable until perfs solely because of that +10% damage bonus

[neon panther]

Tbh they aren’t hard to kill you just need to use the right weapon

I used Subsuming Vortex and it shredded them IIRC

[rugged acorn]

perfs aren't hard to kill

they're hard to not get hit by

[bitter topaz]

perfs

exo weapon

[rugged acorn]

mfw i didn't even realize he actually said that

[tired haven]

Tfw seekers are perfs

[bitter topaz]

unless i missed some pretty vital context 10/10

[tired haven]

You did

[rugged acorn]

yharon isn't hard you just need to use the right strategy

[bitter topaz]

where? it was on pre-hm armours wasn't it?

[rugged acorn]

I enabled god mode and it was piss ez

[bitter topaz]

all i see is 6000j saying it's good earlygame armour and then my comment about it being viable until the perforators

[wintry raptor]

yharon isn't hard I just TAS'ed it

[rugged acorn]

mod is pretty easy if you just do something unique where

you generate the world on normal difficulty

don't tell anyone i showed you this secret tech

[bitter topaz]

scal on normal mode is probably harder than death

[wintry raptor]

mod is pretty easy if you dupe glitch 🤔

[bitter topaz]

you miss out on all the good accessories

[rugged acorn]

you miss out on good accessories

[wintry raptor]

yeah but enemies have like half fucking hp and half damage lmao

[rugged acorn]

but scal misses 5 million hp

scal on normal does less than half damage on death

[bitter topaz]

i'm meming you dip

[sinful violet]

@heady comet for now, just use veinminer tbh

[heady comet]

Ily

[brave warren]

role for people who don't have lives, because that sounds near to def impossible

[tired haven]

Not in next 5 years or so

I bet Levi won't go for that shit

[clever pendant]

WE ALL KNOW SOMEONE WILL GO FOR IT. I mean... Yeah, it's fucking insane.
But if you're alregoing for Hollow, Unt, and DI, may as well shoot for the damn moon am I right?

[brave warren]

might go for it but not fully complete from king slime to scal

[vague olive]

Did you even read the guys suggestion @cobalt ferry

[ruby cobalt]

just so you know, det breaker does nothing

[cobalt ferry]

Yes

Do nohit

[vague olive]

ok what does armageddon do

and what does det breaker do

[cobalt ferry]

But it adds PREASSURE

[ruby cobalt]

instakills you upon taking any damage

pressure

you're already dead in one fucking hit

[cobalt ferry]

And it also wastes an accessory slot

[ruby cobalt]

it only buffs you

[vague olive]

all it does is waste an acc slot

[cobalt ferry]

Allready said that

[vague olive]

Thats dumb

[cobalt ferry]

No

If its hard

Its hard

Also

It means out of boss battles he gets oneshot :)

[sudden quail]

Just use the things from Apoth & Friends that permanently reduce your health

[quiet abyss]

Deathfruit? That's just an antithesis to life crystals and life fruits

[sudden quail]

Can that reduce your health below 100?

[quiet abyss]

No I don't think so

It only undo life crystals and life fruits afaik

[fleet fox]

There's no point in having roles for players who did Armageddon or Iron heart on Rev/Death, because let's be honest, would that actually be possible?

Only Armaggedon would make sense

[quiet abyss]

Technically it is
But who the heck would actually be able to nohit all bosses on rev/death in one try? In a single playthrough?
Even Leviathan would say "Fuck that"

[fleet fox]

Yeah

And Armaggedon with Iron Heart would require actually being God

[quiet abyss]

If you're gonna do armaggeddon on rev/death playthrough for the enitre playthrough you might as well for the nohit roles

[fleet fox]

If someone did a playtrough like that, they should have Owner rank

[tired haven]

Well, only one of those who got them would ever think about armageddon

[quiet abyss]

Also, prolly a late comment, but nice yharon true melee vid crabbar 👍

[tired haven]

Thenks

[fleet fox]

1 hit from any boss and you're finished

[tired haven]

TAS exists kinda

Though terraria randomness prevents it

[fleet fox]

Yeah

[quiet abyss]

While an iron heart armageddon rev/death playthrough is most likely impossible, a TAS one could be possible

Cause with TAS you can slow down frames and stuff

[fleet fox]

I don't think it could be

[ruby cobalt]

iron armageddon rev at 1/8th speed

sounds plausible tbh

[quiet abyss]

I don't just mean slow down.
You can literally make the game run at 1 FPS in TAS

[fleet fox]

Oh, now I see, that would be possible

[tired haven]

Depends on how many possibilities actual TAS software would bring

If only slowdown that's pretty weak

[ruby cobalt]

that's also pretty generous

[quiet abyss]

From what I remember about TAS software

[ruby cobalt]

considering we might not have one for terraria specifically

[tired haven]

Yep

[ruby cobalt]

also we should move out to #calamity-mod-talk

[quiet abyss]

Mhm ye

[tired haven]

Agreed

[ruby cobalt]

threats of the ocean floor won't be added in the near future because of one singular reason

minibosses don't get their themes

[lucid marsh]

Oh right. But still the other ones

[ruby cobalt]

roar of the jungle dragon is non-canon

but it still might get in

[lucid marsh]

But WHY

[ruby cobalt]

void will definitely be in there, at a later point in time

[lucid marsh]

just make it canon smh

[ruby cobalt]

theme can be added through external means

[lucid marsh]

True but the average player won’t know how or want to

[ruby cobalt]

nah, it's actually quite easy if someone does it first

[lucid marsh]

At least implement the instrumental lmao

[ruby cobalt]

you just have to make a wavebank with a single replacement

[lucid marsh]

Ok

[ruby cobalt]

and then you get a main menu theme

[tired haven]

An average player doesn't like lyrics in terraria bossfights tbf

[lucid marsh]

Then implement the instrumental version

[tired haven]

They are good to suspect/watch but not to play with

[lucid marsh]

I disagree

[quiet abyss]

An average player don't like songs with lyrics in boss fights in general

[lucid marsh]

Look at fab’s favorite game. Has song lyrics in boss fights

[ruby cobalt]

MGR:R?

dynamic music

[lucid marsh]

Yes

[ruby cobalt]

gl implementing that into terraria

[lucid marsh]

Theoretical way of doing it: make the instrumental a song and the lyrics a sound effect. Have the volume of this sound effect tied to a setting and start the sound at the same time as the song. Add a bit of code to stop the sound effect if the song stops. Then you’re good to go

Disclaimer: I don’t know this programming language

[ruby cobalt]

actually, if you make lyrics a sound effect, you can tie them to certain attacks

[lucid marsh]

Or the limitations of terraria mods

[ruby cobalt]

but then you'd have to implement triggers that would stop either the sounds from playing, or attacks from happening altogether

[lucid marsh]

Well hold on. Make it 1 long sound effect triggered by the phase transition. Then add a trigger that stops the sound if the music stops or the boss despawns

Man I gotta go it’s 3am

[ruby cobalt]

then that involves syncing music and sounds

which is, I'm pretty sure, impossible

unless you make them sync PERFECTLY

[lucid marsh]

This is true but if the same thing triggers them shouldn’t it work?

[ruby cobalt]

too much of a headache

[lucid marsh]

I’ve done it, in a different language

[ruby cobalt]

at that point you might as well not even split those in two

because AFAIK terraria's engine does not allow switching music on-the-go

evidently by how clonelamitas music changes

it doesn't "transition" into second phase, it spawns a new boss instead

[lucid marsh]

That’s still ok.

What triggers the music to start when the new boss spawns

And can we make the boss do something on frame 1 of existing. If yes, give that thing a sound effect and you’ve done it

Maybe

Idk I gotta go

[ruby cobalt]

good night then

[ashen warren]

This is interesting suggestion

Deaths animations, transition animation

I have mixed feelings

[fervent zealot]

tfw none of the post yharon weapons are being nerfed and ranger is still the most broken calamity class

[ashen warren]

Ooof

[violet talon]

btw

that's why rage and adrenaline are a thing

you probably just aren't using them

[ashen warren]

all post-yharon ranged weapons are fucking amazing

[fleet fox]

Heavenly Gale sucks SCal's hp

[bitter topaz]

multiplayer

[fleet fox]

Melee is shit compared to Ranged, he's just not using it well or something

[ashen warren]

@cyan barn Don’t Talk In #suggestions-voting

Talk in here

[cyan barn]

Aight.

No, i just did a test.

[ashen warren]

|:|

[fleet fox]

How much dps?

[cyan barn]

Heavenly gale - caps at around 100k dps, with tornadoes.

Exoblade

[fleet fox]

No it doesn't

[cyan barn]

Yes it does.

[fleet fox]

No it doesn't

[bitter topaz]

no it really doesn't,

[fleet fox]

You're not using it well

[ashen warren]

Are you using a group of test dummies?

[fleet fox]

I use one, and 100k dps is low for Heavenly Gale

[bitter topaz]

what the fuck is that hp/mana gauge

[worthy fiber]

[cyan barn]

Oh, that's unleveled mod.

Lul

[fleet fox]

I see, that health bar gives strokes

[ashen warren]

heavenly gale has like 400k dps

what the fuck

[cyan barn]

That's with a massive group of enemies.

[ashen warren]

no

on a single target

i played ranged all the time

[cyan barn]

Is that what you see?

I see 100k.

[bitter topaz]

what you're experiencing is called "piercing causes enemy i-frames"

stacking the tornados is more likely to cut DPS that improve it

[cyan barn]

True.

[bitter topaz]

not sure if they have piercing or not, but i assume they do

[cyan barn]

Also rip celestus.

[fleet fox]

It's most likely because your accessories are wrong or something

[vague olive]

What do you guys think of this

Make a recipe for the biome chest weapons. Maybe using the biome key and ectoplasm. I think this shoukd be added because its a pain to be in multiplayer and have more than one person who wants to use the scourge of the cosmos.

[worthy fiber]

Good idea, recipe seems too simple though

[ashen warren]

i think luiafk does exactly that

[fervent zealot]

biome chest weapon recipe would be very nice yes

[worthy fiber]

not everyone has luiafk : P

[ashen warren]

@violet talon we dont need 8 accessory slots

[tired haven]

Impossible to code 8th slot

[bitter topaz]

^

[fleet fox]

No

[tired haven]

Normally at least

[fleet fox]

Never

[violet talon]

let's be honest tho

[fleet fox]

7 Acc slots are enough

[violet talon]

calamity isnt balanced

[fleet fox]

Nuff said

[tired haven]

Also nice balancing suggestion based on average playthrough

[ashen warren]

calamity is balanced tho ?

[fleet fox]

And Fabs is trying to balance Calamity

[fervent zealot]

hahano you really don't need an 8th slot

some of us enjoy balance

just use wingslot if you want an 8th slot tbh

[tired haven]

If you really want 8th slot use Wing slot and enjoy your gauda cheese

Hecc you ninja'ed me

[violet talon]

well

@tired haven that wouldnt work bc onion doesnt work if you already have a 7th slot

[tired haven]

What won't work?

[ashen warren]

wingslot gives a seperate slot for wings

[fervent zealot]

wingslot is separate

[tired haven]

You mixed up with luiafk or whatever gives another 7th slot item probably

Wing slot has unique slot placement

[dense girder]

mm good idea

[ashen warren]

imkSushie does that :/\

[fervent zealot]

yes but imksushi isn't part of calamity

[quasi fable]

Just ude cheat sheet

Theres a setting for more slots

[ashen warren]

with the mod that turns social slots into actual accessory slots and cheat sheet you can get 17 accessory slots i think

[tired haven]

20-21 but why tho

[violet talon]

antisocial is that mod btw

[rugged acorn]

@quaint trellis Goozma has nothing to do with slimes now.

[quaint trellis]

Wut?

[rugged acorn]

#calamity-mod-talk

[ruby cobalt]

sorry to break the news for you, ya boi goozma is no longer a giant slimeball

[hazy glacier]

wait portal do you mean scourge of the corruptor

[violet talon]

sotc uses scourge of the corruptor

[hazy glacier]

I had a feeling that was gonna be said

[cyan barn]

Why do post-yharon ranged weapons keep getting nerfs while mage weapons get hyper buffer?

Buffed*

Alpha ray goes from 62 damage to like 1.2k with same firerate, while Photoviscerator drops from glory to the shadow of mages.

[bitter topaz]

because ranged is OP as shit, that's why

[ashen warren]

^

[cyan barn]

PFFT

Have you taken a look at mage lately?

[ashen warren]

It is

Mages needed the buff

[bitter topaz]

and mage is "mostly viable" the entire game besides for EoC, and needs to be propped up somewhat

[fervent zealot]

inb4 he uses apotheosis an an example

[ashen warren]

Ooooooof

inb4 halibut cannon

[fervent zealot]

if he raises apotheosis as a point i'll raise halibut tcannon as a counterexample ye

[ashen warren]

Wtf is up with Halibut cannon and why is it meme?

its dps

[cyan barn]

I'm not talking about Apotheosis.

[ashen warren]

is fucking insane

[fervent zealot]

it's a pre boss weapon that can kill DoG and further

[ashen warren]

Holy shit

[violet talon]

screw it

getting halibut cannon

[ashen warren]

Why is it a thing then?

meme

ranged is op as shit

it doesnt need nerfs

[fervent zealot]

itdoestho

[ashen warren]

Everything needs buffa

halibut doesnt need buff

[cyan barn]

Applejack, you're clearly in the past.

[ashen warren]

Everything except ranged needs buffa

[cyan barn]

Compare Alpha ray to Heavenly gale.

And say that again.

[ashen warren]

heavenly gale has 400k dps rn

Alpha ray is not that good

[cyan barn]

doesn't look liek 400k to me.

[ashen warren]

It’s good against worms and that’s it

looks like 400k to me

[cyan barn]

What's your build then?

[ashen warren]

Ooof

[cyan barn]

Clearly i'm doing something wrong.

[ashen warren]

idk , not running terraria rn

and yeah if heavenly gale is doing 100k for you

there is something wrong

Use the weapon without accessories, cause that masses with stats

Come back to me afterwards

[cyan barn]

Any accessories?

Including armor*

[ashen warren]

No

No accessories allowed

No armor

Just a test dummy and the weapon without prefixes

:P

[cyan barn]

Yeah.. no.

[ashen warren]

NOT DUNGEON GUARDIANS DOOFUS

[cyan barn]

That's not a dungeon guardian.

That's a test dummy.

The dungeon guardians are on my friend lul.

[ashen warren]

Use the test dummy item. And no using anything other than the weapon

with no armor all weapons are ass lol

^

[rugged acorn]

doing 67880 damage to dungeon guardian

damn, what a weapon

[ashen warren]

Yup

[rugged acorn]

rather, 670 and 880

[ashen warren]

Which is why Adult Wyrm exists

this is my loadout for 400k heavenly gale

Holy

?

[cyan barn]

What's that blue accessory?

[ashen warren]

ele quiver ?

Reaper Tooth?

[cyan barn]

Ah.

[ashen warren]

lots of damage

but you take lots of damage

Glass cannon

pretty much

[cyan barn]

Alright..

[ashen warren]

Mini gun is my friend

heavenly gale used to be unDOUBTEDLY the best weapon in the mod

it used to shoot 10 arrows instead of 5

The Minigun destroys Yharon

[rugged acorn]

Isn't reaper tooth actually ruined by soft caps right now

[ashen warren]

ye

[cyan barn]

It's increased.. but not 400k.

Actuall

[ashen warren]

what mode

My god

[cyan barn]

Revenge

[ashen warren]

oof

Why are@you using Dungeon Guardians as your test dummy

[fervent zealot]

he's not

[cyan barn]

That's not the dungeon guardian people.

[ashen warren]

What is it

[cyan barn]

That the improved test dummy 🤦🏻

[ashen warren]

:/ oh

[fervent zealot]

his friend seems to be fighting dgs

i can see it's patchwerk

[cyan barn]

Ya.

[ashen warren]

Lol

[cyan barn]

This is that build with unreal one.

Oh, well, i am using Silva armor as well with the worse one.

[ashen warren]

Wait a minute

[cyan barn]

Lul.

?

[ashen warren]

This isn’t #calamity-mod-talk :/\

[cyan barn]

True.

[ashen warren]

why

OOOOOF

why arent you using auric tesla

I told him to test without anything

[cyan barn]

That's actually not the world the survival is in, the survival is in a world made before auric ore, so we had to make a cheat server.

[ashen warren]

Oof

You know what would be the scariest thing ever?

[cyan barn]

?

[rugged acorn]

an angry wulfrum drone

[ashen warren]

A Calamity Mod Server tan by the devs

*ran

[cyan barn]

o.o

[ashen warren]

o.o

o.o

if you fuck around

yoooooooooooooooooooooou're dead

Yeah

Glad it’s not a thing

Boop

[fervent zealot]

oh god why

we don't need more enemies to make zerging annoying thanks

[ashen warren]

Ravager in the lore states that it’s a living fortress, so here’s something to expand on that

Besides it’s a rare enemy so it’s not meant to be a common threat

[rugged acorn]

zerging will literally almost guarantee that it will spawn

[fervent zealot]

its lore says it's basicially just a necromancy flesh golem

it's armed like a fortress because it's a sloppy last ditch effort

[rugged acorn]

the lore does not state ravager is a living fortress

[ashen warren]

Well, it’s has some use

[rugged acorn]

it states that it has the durability of one

[ashen warren]

Ravagers sprite has literal fortress towers

[rugged acorn]

ravager is quite literally a mass of dead reanimated bodies

[fervent zealot]

^

it's literally a mass of dead reanimated bodies with a bunch of weapons thrown in

[ashen warren]

:/

[rugged acorn]

when you say literal fortress towers, you mean the rock pillars and flame pillars it summons

which are not even a part of its body

[ashen warren]

Look at its sprite

I’m not talking about what it summons

[gusty geode]

Still a cool idea, we need stuff like that to throw people's zergrinding plans out of whack, it would make it more challenging, less repetitive, and more fun.

[fervent zealot]

no we don't

[violet talon]

r/wooosh

[ashen warren]

grinding doesn't need to be challenging

smh

with stuff like that , usually you figure out something to combat it after awhile and it gets easy

but with zerg

you cant do anything against that shit lmao

[gusty geode]

Still makes it less tedious in a mod that builds itself around grinding

[fervent zealot]

you mean more, right

a big enemy you have to take time out of zerging to fight is BAD

[ashen warren]

calamity is not built around grinding

[gusty geode]

More variety is always good, plus it saves you having to actually fight Ravager

Also to some extent it is built around grinding, with all the best items requiring a worldwide scavenger hunt and countless boss rematchs, as well as items that you don't grind for being intentionally made weaker

[ancient dragon]

As much as I like the idea of mobs that drop mats you otherwise would have to farm for to craft, all these suggestions are starting to remind me of Tremor.
We really don't need to add more shit like that, Ravager is fine as is.

[ashen warren]

plus , even if those were implemented , you would still have to kill ravager for other things

they dont drop all of the other hardmode bars (perennial, chaotic, cryonic) and it also doesnt drop the mats for core of the blood god

[sinful violet]

Why would you want something like that for ceaseless void

[ashen warren]

^

[sinful violet]

Entirely pointless and seems more annoying than “cool because lore.”

[ancient dragon]

How many suggestions regarding Ceaseless Void's... well, void, have been made thus far?

[ashen warren]

a lot

[sinful violet]

A lot

[white laurel]

too many

[sinful violet]

There are better ways to implement that

[violet talon]

a lot

[gusty geode]

Last I checked Void gets pretty much no changes in Rev and above, so I thought something unique would make the fight more interesting

[sinful violet]

Then it’d have to be something else

[ashen warren]

something like that would just be annoying

[ancient dragon]

Just... one thing.

Grappling hooks.

[violet talon]

revengence only makes sense because it's trying to get revenge(nce)

[white laurel]

That wouldnt even be that hard to avoid, wouldnt cause any problems unless it was unexpected, in which case it would be annoying. if it is expected, it would be time consuming

[ashen warren]

also

[sinful violet]

And imagine that during DoG fight

[ashen warren]

making it last longer in death mode

is pointless

[white laurel]

ah god, that would ruin DoG for me

[ashen warren]

i mean

i dont like dog already

but that would make it so much worse

[violet talon]

DoG is kool

DoG is my favorite boss

[ashen warren]

i dont like his phase two ai , unpopular opinion ofc

[sinful violet]

imo give it a dash attack like hive, where it’ll leave behind a small rift that damages the player for a few seconds if touched

[white laurel]

I think he should have a little deathray and fly across the screen, like martian saucer

[ancient dragon]

More dashing floating bosses?

[violet talon]

his phase 2 ai can be annoying but it's still consistent(except laser walls but you have to git gud for those)

[ashen warren]

laser walls are easy lol

[violet talon]

guess i've gotten gud then

[sinful violet]

wALUIGI

[ashen warren]

if anything those are the most consistent thing in the fight

[violet talon]

except for the fact i cant beat yharon phase 1 with SILVA armor

[ashen warren]

what mode

[ancient dragon]

Stupid bullshit dogshit boss design smh.

[violet talon]

death ofc

[ashen warren]

understandable

[violet talon]

DoG is very consistent

[ancient dragon]

Yharon is just Duke but with more screen clutter.

[ashen warren]

yharon is just duke except a lot harder

a lot

[ancient dragon]

Ehhhh.

[ashen warren]

at least second phase is somewhat unique

he gets new attacks

i hate all of them but sh

[violet talon]

i have trouble with him BECAUSE he's fishron

[ancient dragon]

Fishron's easy though.

[violet talon]

no he's not

[ashen warren]

^

[violet talon]

im just bad

[ashen warren]

dickron is easy

[white laurel]

#calamity-mod-talk

[gusty geode]

How about this then?

Void Touch
A debuff that's basically Poison on Yharim's Steroids, shredding your HP and slowing you down
All of Voids attacks inflict this debuff on Rev, and for longer on Death
"The void is consuming you"

[ancient dragon]

Slowing you down
Fucking. No.

[ashen warren]

ceaseless doesn't need a rework imo , it is a mini boss after all

[dull kite]

make a channel that only I can type in where I put suggestions with over 35 stars

[ancient dragon]

[safe lava]

@vague olive simply get the key and then create a corrupt world and find the chest and go to it. You only have to kill plantera with the key in the world for it to un-curse

[bitter topaz]

that's not his point

his point is that doing exactly that is time consuming and annoying

[hazy glacier]

how do I star a suggestion twice

[dull kite]

you can’t star a suggestion twice

[livid coral]

I will destroy you if you do that

[sterile dust]

How do I die twice

Wait crud I don’t wanna be a bad snowboy who goes offtopic

SUGGESTIONS YES

[vague olive]

Heck ping

[violet talon]

and luminite

[sleek wigeon]

I feel like thrower could use an elemental or a luminite consumable weapon tbh

[neon panther]

elemental disk

[sleek wigeon]

Sure pitchforks are supposedly absurd on like prov, but i'd like to have consumable things at every tier

[neon panther]

oh consumable

[vague olive]

Disk is shared with melee

i made a suggestion for one earlier but im not sure if it was considered

[ancient dragon]

Consumables are annoying and a waste of resources unless you make it a colossal amount per 1 bar.

[neon panther]

333 per

[fervent zealot]

consumables bad tbh

[sleek wigeon]

consumables are throwings only identity

That doggo suggestion sounds really hard to code

tbh

[neon panther]

it doesnt sound that hard, it'd just need a lot of spriting work into it

have something similar to lunatic cultist happen, where each time you beat one a small animation occurs that shows doggo getting a bit of armor

[gritty crow]

Oof my suggestion is one vote away

[cyan lagoon]

isn't that a thing already

[ancient dragon]

A public one, I guess?

[dull kite]

I don't think so, I was told that mod's can access every channel

But still, a public one would decrease the repitition

[ancient dragon]

Or just... pin them after they hit a bigger threshold?

[cobalt ferry]

and move em out of the suggestions channel

so old suggestions have a better chance at getting noticed by regular people

[fleet fox]

T'would be nice

[dull kite]

not allowed to star my own suggestion

[ancient dragon]

Take that star of mine as yours because I generally don't give a shit about actually starring things.

[dull kite]

yay

[gritty crow]

Are people allowed to vote for their own suggestion? If so I'm gonna bump mine the 1 dang star it needs

[bitter topaz]

if you want to get shot, yeah

after 35 stars it doesn't matter if you star it tho

since 35 is the threshold for the bot

[gritty crow]

It's at 34

[bitter topaz]

it's actually at 35

and i didn't even star it

[gritty crow]

I voted for it tho

[fleet fox]

Yeet

[gritty crow]

Okay I unstarred it we're good

[fervent zealot]

i voted for it too so you're hip now

[quasi fable]

I have suggested this once before

Just make us able to star our own suggestions

[gritty crow]

You have? Great minds think alike then

[sleek wigeon]

Theres alot of grey names who ive never seen in the grey name channel

😓

[quasi fable]

If it really matters bump the requirement up to 36

[sleek wigeon]

Nah

it doesnt

its some arbitrary number

picked practically from random

[quasi fable]

I like 144

Its a nice number

[ancient dragon]

144p

[quasi fable]

Its 12 squared

[gritty crow]

Oof

Nothing ever makes it that high

[quasi fable]

What

[ancient dragon]

3 minutes after the convo died
Dude, nice.

[quasi fable]

No need to delete it its fine

[ancient dragon]

^

[violet talon]

eh, too late

[violet talon]

you can choose your own difficulty

you should be allowed to cheese it

[spiral olive]

i guess but it doesnt seem that balanced

if you die you shouldnt be able to get a second chance

[violet talon]

well, except for scal cause she's a test of patience and strength

[sleek wigeon]

you can cheese wof in death mode anyhow with a wall

[vague olive]

Wasnt a lot of anti cheese removed a few updates ago

makes no sense to bring it back

[fervent zealot]

yeah a lot was

teleporters and mounts are no longer blocked on the few fights they were

[bitter topaz]

only anti-cheese that still exists is the fabsol mount being disabled for DoG iirc

and that's barely an anti-cheese, since DoG scales with your speed iirc

so it's probably to stop high-speed worm fuckery

[neon panther]

someone already made an idea like that, cosmolite upgrade @sleek yew

[sleek yew]

oh nice

[neon panther]

this is why we need a 35 star log

[dim kestrel]

this is so sad

[gusty geode]

Sounds good, I don't think PBG has a summon weapon

[ashen warren]

HOLY FUCK

Im almost there

Also why hasnt anyone else suggested that Dead Mem?

Weakest suggestion ever. Does it fly? Does it suicide you? Does t Sword of the Multiverse?

[tight chasm]

makes all enemies or bosses kill themselves out of despair

[ashen warren]

Lelelele

I’m happy that I got a 35 suggestion in :)

[heady comet]

What if supreme calamitas had a hitcounter

[tight chasm]

[ashen warren]

[tight chasm]

yharon hitcounter when

[ashen warren]

Oh god

[dull kite]

Wow what a well thought out suggestion by @latent bane

[ashen warren]

^

[heady comet]

Literally god @latent bane

[ashen warren]

The best one yet lele

[tight chasm]

80/10

[latent bane]

I know; I took 50 hours to think of it

[ashen warren]

[dull kite]

I can’t wait to add that one to the extra suggestions channel that I suggested doc

[ashen warren]

Lol

[latent bane]

No one cares about you having a doc of suggestions

[ashen warren]

We kinda do if you Flood the channel with 30000000 enemies