suggestions-discussion

[tight chasm]

Most definitely not

[dense girder]

grrrr add it

does this count as a waifu suggestion

Also baby healy wtf

[tight chasm]

Not really

[dense girder]

[west prairie]

I know my suggestion is not happening but it would be hilarious

[dense girder]

I'm not mad at you

I'm mad that I didn't know SilvaGunner has made Calamity rips

[west prairie]

https://youtu.be/G_MwAn-zbVQ
This is the rip in question.

[dense girder]

oh boy

this just went from cool mod to cooler mod

he hasn't made any other rips?

[west prairie]

Afaik no

[dense girder]

rip

[neon panther]

I’m pretty sure that would require being a dev of AlchemistNPC’s

[dense girder]

but calam can avoid butchering DoG and such

isn't that calam-side coding?

[neon panther]

they do that by not allowing him to take a certain amount of damage

[bitter topaz]

that's called a damage cap

[dense girder]

oh

[neon panther]

in b4 light cap

[vague olive]

Haha yed

[bitter topaz]

it's something along the lines of if D >= x return = 0 iirc

[dense girder]

wow fuck coding

[bitter topaz]

it's not that bad really,

it just means if your damage exceeds a threshold to return the result as 0

aka not deal actual damage

[dense girder]

ah

well the Abyss uses light levels

i'm sure there's a way to code an excess

because using sunshine pots in the abyss gives you complete brightness

[bitter topaz]

that's alchemistNPC doing it then,

[dense girder]

damn

[bitter topaz]

it's a mod that should be completely ignored imo

[dense girder]

i don't think i can reason with the dev if his discord is called AlchemistNPC mod New Discord Channel

[bitter topaz]

is that actually the alchemistNPC discord name?

[dense girder]

yes

[bitter topaz]

amazing

[narrow halo]

I'm totally fine with the mod itself, but the potion-selling NPCs are always complaining about being slipped the wrong drink by each other which is kinda unnerving (and BTW if you want to ride this tangent I suggest taking this to #other-mod-talk)

[little jolt]

i used to say siiva armor for the longest time

[dense girder]

"Crunch crunch... wait, those weren't mushrooms! Those were Quaaludes!"

aight sorry troc

[plush gazelle]

the problem with fighting crabulon in silva armor

is it would die instantly before you hear the music

[dense girder]

just don't attack

[subtle zinc]

silvagunner

use a minishark

or a flintlock

[plush gazelle]

use just old ones army turrets

[dense girder]

ballista rod

[dense girder]

seems like a good idea

[gusty geode]

Cannot confirm bot works so will post here

[bitter topaz]

the bot works .-.

[dense girder]

^

[gusty geode]

K sweet

[violet talon]

maybe only lore for calamity ones

but yeah, that's a good idea

[dense girder]

no good idea

i want to know why the shark has a fist

[vague olive]

Post here first anyway

So that you can see what people think/what yo change

[gusty geode]

Right, been a while since I did this

[ashen warren]

@gusty geode plaguebringer isnt a miniboss

[delicate raft]

It is

iirc

[gusty geode]

I mean Plaguebringer not-Goliath

[violet talon]

yeah

good idea

[sleek wigeon]

a wulfrum hook should be like 3 range if its added

it shouldnt be that big a boon to mobility

[violet talon]

because that would help with building like a yharon arena

[gilded surge]

hello

[sleek wigeon]

since it would be obscenely easy to get

also @ashen warren why bfb and zomg instead of say, a ddt? i feel like that would make much more sense as a moab upgrade

since ddts are the fast blimps and all, idk

[violet talon]

@sleek wigeon ddt maybe like post-DoG

[lapis badge]

their bloons tower defense refrences

[sleek wigeon]

yes, i know

so is a ddt

[ashen warren]

theres a new , big , purple one from btd6

[violet talon]

???

[sleek wigeon]

BAD

because fuck origanal names amiright?

[violet talon]

guessing it's a fortified ddt with more health?

[sleek wigeon]

no

[ashen warren]

no

its fucking huge

lol

[violet talon]

sorry, im not paying money for bloons lol

[sleek wigeon]

super slow mega blimp with a metric fuckload of health. appears rarely past round 100

[violet talon]

we should probably take this to general talk

[sleek wigeon]

sa part of suggestions discussions though

that spring shoe suggestion is actually just useless

would be a complete filler item

[gritty crow]

The small jump boost and movement speed could be very useful pre desert scourge

[violet talon]

wulfrum doesnt have anything special really

i dont really think that's a good idea

[sleek wigeon]

^

besides, it really wouldnt be useful

aglet has 5% increased movement speed and its almost never used

[violet talon]

only really used for that extra early game modifier

[sleek wigeon]

yeah

[violet talon]

menacing aglet is best accessory, use it for yharon

[safe lava]

Speaking of Yharon

I recently made a suggestion about having a Baby Yharon pet, I’m pretty shocked, it gained traction rather quickly.

[sleek wigeon]

of course it gained traction

people love cute things

[safe lava]

I read the pins

[sleek wigeon]

that... doesnt nessacarily means its gonna be implemented

[violet talon]

just gonna...

[safe lava]

It’s at 23 stars rn, I haven’t checked

[sleek wigeon]

just means its more likely

[safe lava]

Within the pas t5 mins

[violet talon]

there we go

[gilded surge]

Hello

[sleek wigeon]

hello?

[safe lava]

Er 24

[violet talon]

lightning boots already require aglet

[tired haven]

Double aglet for boots
It makes sense and it makes no sense simultaneously

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah, it makes complete sense, for one boot

but wouldnt you need 4 for a pair?

[tired haven]

On sprite there is one boot

[sleek wigeon]

on player sprite there is 2

[tired haven]

But item is 1 boot

le thonk

Inb4 update that player has to wear 2 boots to get full speed

[ashen warren]

whiios

[ashen warren]

Huh, haven't actually played BTD6 yet

[sleek wigeon]

ddts were also in balloons monkey city, but were a bit less well known. since thats not a mainline game

[violet talon]

ik

[night cradle]

@neon panther yo, that Ceasless Void instakill idea is pretty nice

since it's actual void lol

[gilded surge]

@alpine copper I'd love to see scal say that! It sounds pretty cool!

[crude quartz]

chibii devourer exists

[little jolt]

^

[gilded surge]

The chibii devourer is a hardcore death item

I want something that drops that is easily obtainable

[crude quartz]

its still a pet drop from DoG

[gilded surge]

It's a dev item

[crude quartz]

also there's the small DoT that it rides when you fly around

[gilded surge]

so its different

[crude quartz]

not really

[ancient dragon]

You can also create a separate character in HC to open the bag.

[bitter topaz]

all pets are dev items iirc

[crude quartz]

ye

[ancient dragon]

It's really just a needless nuisance at best.

[gilded surge]

well

[ancient dragon]

And of course the age-old rule that makes it so Fab is physically incapable of coding things he deems 'worthless'.

[gilded surge]

ok

[ancient dragon]

Probably one of the main reasons Thorium's better.

[crude quartz]

unless of course you do it yourself

[gilded surge]

dismissed

[violet talon]

crabulon is perfect?

or is this a meme

[broken dove]

That’s a meme in the Calamity community

[ancient dragon]

That meme has been officially killed with the new lore for him.

Also Crabulon's not a Highlander, nor is the player character 'perfect'.

[broken dove]

Aww

And we know Crabulon isn’t that special, same with the player. It was just a joke. :p

[cyan lagoon]

Perfs already drop ichor in hm

But hive mind gets the short end currently

[violet talon]

just buy a thing from dryad to summon perf in corruption(does that work?)

[cyan lagoon]

No

Perfs must be summoned in crimson

[sleek wigeon]

Theres a reason absorber is post plantera, its for balance reasons

[violet talon]

for rage i just be on a wooden spike

and take off armor

doesnt take long with nurse around

[safe lava]

I still think that baby Yharon would be the best pet in the game

[small plover]

Or use the Drainer Item

that dmgs´you, and heals up

Its intended for Building Rage

[sleek wigeon]

I dont think thats a calamity item?

I've never head of it and i dont see it on the wiki, anyway

[violet talon]

what mod is it from?

(use the mod "Which Mod is this From")

[bitter topaz]

i'd assume it's from Calamity Addon

[sleek wigeon]

i though calamity addon only added rev disabler

is it an apoth and frens thing?

[violet talon]

to get what?

also i think you mean stack super dummies

[small plover]

oh right

[vague olive]

Drainer is from alchemist npc

also rage isnt even necessary, personally i rarely use it

[alpine copper]

after a certain point rage is only useful for the heart attack buff

[west prairie]

Or finishing off a boss

[violet talon]

i dont really get the entropy's vigil bug

how you can over spawn

[bitter topaz]

shares a glitch with the optic staff iirc

only the calamini is counted as the "summoned" minion iirc

[violet talon]

so you can summon 3 with one slot?

[bitter topaz]

so if you go over the summon limit, it'll resummon only the calamini

[violet talon]

oh

[bitter topaz]

where-as it should resummoned catastromini and catalamini afaik

[sleek wigeon]

"dont know how to remove the buff"

uh, what? why are you playing modded when you dont know basic game mechanics

[violet talon]

oof

[ashen warren]

actually i have friends that don't know and i helped install for them....

[neon panther]

"hey dude right click the buff icon to get rid of it"

[sleek wigeon]

buff icon

cant get rid of debuffs ya nerd

[ashen warren]

i tell them but they don't get it....

[sleek wigeon]

tell them to look under their hotbar

wait if they dont know where their buffs are

how do they know pot cooldowns?

[violet talon]

lol

[sleek wigeon]

the fuck? how do you play the game like that?

[violet talon]

there should be a mod that tells you when you can drink your next healing pot

and auto-rebuffs

[sleek wigeon]

luiafk is basically auto rebuffs

[neon panther]

you dont need a mod

just take a quick glance under your hotbar

[violet talon]

ik

[sleek wigeon]

it can get lost when you have alot of buffs

[ashen warren]

look some understand only after i tell them.... why is it an issue if someone didn't know they had to do that every 10 seconds.....

[violet talon]

but am i gonna be looking at my hotbar while im fighting yharon?

lol also i lost a yharon fight to switching to 2 instead of 3

[neon panther]

i mean i can take a moment to look at my hotbar to see adrenaline and buffs without getting hit

[violet talon]

2 is rod, 3 is viscera

[sleek wigeon]

because its basic hecking game mechanics. dont introduce peeps to modded without letting them figure out all the bare essentials

[violet talon]

someone that knows "heck" isnt a bad word

like srsly tho

[ashen warren]

what the entropy vigil is saying be good at summoner or don't play it...

[violet talon]

why do people think that?

[sleek wigeon]

huh?

[bitter topaz]

some people just don't like swearing ya know

[violet talon]

some people actually think "heck" is a swear word tho

[sleek wigeon]

That and hecking flowed better in the sentance

[violet talon]

ive seen someone say "h*ck"

lol

[bitter topaz]

that's called a meme you dip

[violet talon]

nice edit

big, how is that a meme?

i just dont get it

[sleek wigeon]

censoring obviously not curse words can be used as a joke yes

bad joke, but a joke nonetheless

[ashen warren]

also its not a similar bug with the the optic staff... (idk people think optic staff does the same...)

[violet talon]

s*m*b*dy *nc*

[sleek wigeon]

wot

[bitter topaz]

i can translate that actually

[sleek wigeon]

this is getting off track

[bitter topaz]

it's somebody once for some reason

also yeah this is off-topic

to #general-talk we go i guess

[dense girder]

before someone gets mad with me for needing Grand Gelatin twice, come on
those jellies drop all the time and a zerg will get you twenty of each within a few minutes

[rugged finch]

Mirage jellies drop them too now right?

[dense girder]

Yep

Mirage and Green drop Vital jellies

[rugged finch]

Yeah, I agree.

[dense girder]

agree with what

[sinful violet]

Probably with you

[dense girder]

about what

[rugged finch]

Yeah with you

[sinful violet]

I wonder

Could it possibly be about the topic you were discussing with him?

[dense girder]

i can't tell if he's agreeing with my suggestion (logical) or with my saying that mirage/green jellyfish drop vital jelly (wtf)

sent twice wtf

discord is dumb

[rugged finch]

the wtf bit

[dense girder]

Mezing you're confusing me more

Both of the proposed scenarios were things where you could agree with me

[rugged finch]

I agree with that the Grand Gelatin isn't that hard to get and that its completely fine that it would be used twice

[dense girder]

ah

[rugged finch]

AaAAAaa

Lets forget this happened ok

[dense girder]

if you agreed you'd star it grrr

[rugged finch]

oops

[dense girder]

thanks love you

[rugged finch]

tbh i thought i did

[dense girder]

you thought you loved me? smh

good thinkin, solo

it does look like trash

oof

[violet talon]

that doesnt look like elemental ray lol

[ashen warren]

It's shaped like it, that was my point

[violet talon]

kinda does tbh

[sleek wigeon]

I dont see how 1. ultraliq looks similar to elemental thingy 2. why thats a big deal

for comparison

[sinful violet]

Better place to ask is art server tbh

Or, even better yet, do one yourself.

[sleek wigeon]

Just as well if its resprited, my ultraliq sprite is a tad dated

[ashen warren]

@sleek wigeon I had both in my hotbar, and from a distance there wasn't much differentiating them. If they had more distinct silhouettes then you could easily tell them both apart without a second thought.

[worthy fiber]

Isn't Bloodflare after Tarragon?

[ashen warren]

Not anymore

You can get them at about the same time

[odd terrace]

@ashen warren isn’t tarragon all about lifesteal?

[worthy fiber]

progression-wise though

[ashen warren]

@odd terrace Yes, with magic

[odd terrace]

And throwing

[worthy fiber]

summon aura's pretty op

even post-nerf

[sleek wigeon]

the point of bloodflare is that its better than terragon, at the expense of having to fight polterghast, iirc

[ashen warren]

I suppose so, but I wish there was something unique about it that made it stand out, right now it's kind of generic other than the sprite

When you think of Bloodflare, you think of blood orbs and life gen. God Slayer, resurrection. Silva, immunity.

Nothing similar comes to mind with Tarragon

[neon panther]

@soft grail brilliant

but also possibly hard to code

unless one of them became a temporary familiar

but idk

[sleek wigeon]

when i think terragon i think life regen. not nessacarily life steal but life regen

[neon panther]

@ashen warren

[sleek wigeon]

stuff like tarra life and what not

[cyan lagoon]

time to minimod

[ashen warren]

what

[neon panther]

or you could, mod

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren suggestion talk is for this channel

[ashen warren]

didn't know this channel existed, sorry

@sleek wigeon Bloodflare overall fills that niche better

[cyan lagoon]

probably won't happen

[dense girder]

@vestal comet

grrrrrr chaotic

[ashen warren]

what did i do

[dense girder]

wrong channel

discuss here, post ideas there

[ashen warren]

ah

[dense girder]

delete your messages before mods see, quick

[ashen warren]

well it said mod talk so i assumed it meant just general talking about the mod

[dense girder]

meh, i see

also @vestal comet delete your thing since never accepted

same for you chaotic it's considered spam to leave discussion messages in there

[ashen warren]

wow this server is pretty high speed

[dense girder]

just me and my typing skills

[ashen warren]

anyone else want an Abyss expansion?

[vestal comet]

Odditer suggested a rework of it

[ashen warren]

i like the heavy emphasis on stealth and all that

and the connection with it and the dungeon

but it's missing something that i can't really get a finger on

ever since they put R'lyeh back as the deep abyss soundtrack, Void could be used for a potential expansion/rework

heck even Threats of the Ocean Floor is unused

[dense girder]

I already suggested an entire doc to rework it like 9 pages long

It got accepted for viewing so gotta wait and see

[sleek wigeon]

Music files = very big

so unliekly

[little jolt]

that would be cool

but yeah

[sleek wigeon]

music files make up like75% of calamitys file size

[lone cobalt]

rip

[safe lava]

I’m really happy now. Not only did I second try rev cryogen (with statigel armor, mage helmet) (first play through of calamity as well) but my post about a baby Yharon pet is about to get forwarded to staff (3 more stars)

WOAH! I never knew Daedalus armor gives gravitation, I just knew it’s a good set to get

Sorry, off topic, this is suggestion discussion

[elder sparrow]

5 more stars

rip suggestion got buried

[neon panther]

mentioning star count smh

[elder sparrow]

needa get @violet cedar 2 make an idea, hey wanna make a meme mob or weapon

[deft jasper]

@opaque kindle what

[opaque kindle]

I accidentaly typed that sorry lol

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Boss suggestions aren't accepted, sorry

[ashen warren]

it's fine, I made it more for a joke or something than anything

[white laurel]

Joke suggestions arent accepted either

[ashen warren]

I was thinking about it like the lorde

[white laurel]

The lorde is a dead meme

[quiet abyss]

^

[ashen warren]

it wasn't for like 6 months doh

[white laurel]

...it lasted for about one month

[quiet abyss]

It is a dead meme ever since it was deleted. Maybe before it was even removed

[ashen warren]

I'm not the best with memory okay?

[quiet abyss]

Mmk its fine

[violet cedar]

@elder sparrow meme mob?!??!

oh wait this isnt the right channel soz

[gusty geode]

DoG Sentinels phase only playing their collective theme is a good idea

[hazy glacier]

can we get a counter for the amount of times the scal hit counter has been suggested

[sleek wigeon]

suggestion hit counter for suggested hit counter

[livid coral]

And then a hit counter for suggested hit counters for hit counters

[little jolt]

downwards spiral

[hollow shell]

@sterile moon Hello

[heady comet]

No hellos

[hollow shell]

(awkward situation, but #suggestions-voting channel is for suggestions only
you should prolly delete that message)

[sterile moon]

oops

[sinful violet]

wew

[sterile moon]

kinda new too discord

well that was short lived

[ruby cobalt]

hoyl, such a detailed suggestion

[tired haven]

Well, yes, cared enough for that

[heady comet]

Lol another hitcap suggestion guys

Lets upvote it

[tired haven]

One day I'll make meme regarding average suggestions tbh

[safe lava]

Uh. Did I do something wrong?

[tired haven]

Probably not but that's fun

[heady comet]

What if bumblebirb had a summon

[tired haven]

Yus

Tho it is nugget v0.5 basically

[safe lava]

Also I’m REALLY glad that my Yharon pet idea got through to Staff. Now there’s a chance of it getting approved and added

[heady comet]

[safe lava]

Also, has anyone currently paying attention ever had a suggestion approved? If so, how long does it generally take after it gets 35 stars before you get notified?

Like before you know whether it was approved

[heady comet]

Great sand shark was a suggestion that got implemented

[tired haven]

I don't think there is set time anyway
Neither there would be notif system I guess

[quiet abyss]

You don't really get notified when it's implemented

[safe lava]

I guess you wait and check changelogs

[quiet abyss]

If it's implemented, it will be mentioned in changelogs or smth like that

[tired haven]

Best that could happen is one of followers noticing changelogs and pinging you

[safe lava]

K

[quiet abyss]

Also, don't get your hopes up too high.
Not all suggestions that got 35 stars and port forward to dev servers will be implemented

[tired haven]

Barely any*

[safe lava]

remains optimistic for now i know that. It just seems like one of those ideas that actually has a chance

[quiet abyss]

And as for how long it take before your suggestion get 35 stars: That entirely depends on how good/bad the suggestion is

[tired haven]

Like, sand shark is like only one I remember being implemented

[safe lava]

I mean who here doesn’t want a pet baby Yharon.

[ruby cobalt]

I don't

[quiet abyss]

If the suggestion is good, or is something that many people want (Usually QoL), expect it to get 35 stars pretty quickly

[safe lava]

Took mine about a day. Then again, I posted it at 1:00 in the morning. By the time the majority of people were online, it was buried

[quasi fable]

I wish there were some way of seeing if it was denied

[tired haven]

Does it really matter how fast it gets stars tbh?

[sudden quail]

GSS got implemented long before the star system was added, though

[safe lava]

Yeah, like some sort of notification bot

[quasi fable]

because i really really want a toggleable dash unlinked to visibility 😤

[quiet abyss]

GSS is planned way before the star system is added, ye

[quasi fable]

yes

[sudden quail]

And even then it was only added because Fab himself read it at our request

[quiet abyss]

Also

https://gyazo.com/2a21b4965bd29c6031e0da585447fe0b

^ Keep this in mind

[sudden quail]

Pretty much

[safe lava]

Ooh, someone should suggest a suggestion notification bot! (Notifies the poster of the suggestion when it reaches 35 stars, and if it is uploaded)

[heady comet]

Mrrp is god

Is that a meme

[safe lava]

I’d do it myself but I already have 2 suggestions out there

[heady comet]

Im severely confused

[sudden quail]

A notifier that tells you if your suggestion has been approved/declined would be great tho

[safe lava]

Baby Yharon pet and SCal Hitcount (and a SCal hitcount suggestion count)

[tired haven]

It'd be easier to let someone PM you on that tbh

[safe lava]

Wait you said you got fab himself to read the GSS post

[quasi fable]

that's how you did back then

[quiet abyss]

As convenient as a notification bot maybe...it could be seen as unnecessary.
I mean, getting notified whether your suggestion is denied or implemented is great, but making the bot itself will only be more work for the devs, and the bot will only benefit us.
If there's gonna be a notification bot, a non-dev would have to be the one making it

[sudden quail]

I pretty much waited for Fab to be online then convinced him to go to #suggestions-voting and read the pastebin containing the whole idea

[quasi fable]

I got a suggestion implemented once so im super cool 😎

[quiet abyss]

Or, if we're lucky, a dev who's free, but that's too much too hope for imo

[sudden quail]

Basically just get really lucky and hope to God that your suggestion makes it

[safe lava]

Hahaha lol. Calamity Wiki doesn’t have a thumbnail icon, so google just uses random social media icons

[quiet abyss]

The suggestions that will have high chances of getting in...are Dead Inside/Untouchable items, as Sygilin told me that those suggestions aren't taken too lightly

[tropic bridge]

IM BACK

[safe lava]

I.e. I looked up the GSS, and the icon for the site was the Twitter icon

[quiet abyss]

For most people tho, going for Dead Inside/Untouchable items aren't worth it simply cause...well, ya know

[safe lava]

What are dead inside/untouchable items

[tropic bridge]

Are those things like yharon’s Crystal item

?.?

[sudden quail]

Content that have a higher priority on the suggestions list, basically

[safe lava]

And how do I get one

[quasi fable]

nohit

[sudden quail]

no hit rev/death

[quiet abyss]

Each Dead Inside/Untouchable can suggest one item and claimed it as their item.
Those items, rather than going through the standard star system, can be DM to Danny who will port it forward to the Dev Servers immediately

[safe lava]

Just untouchable or both

[heady comet]

Spend a lot of time doing a grueling task that will have extremely little reward in the end

[safe lava]

This will be worth it

[heady comet]

Youre delusional

[sudden quail]

Other than bragging rights

[quiet abyss]

The items aren't guaranteed to get in, but they are not taken lightly

[safe lava]

And will be probably the worst 29374 hours of my life

Well if it’s my best bet of getting baby Yharon, so be it

[quiet abyss]

[tropic bridge]

Lol

[safe lava]

Let do dis

[sudden quail]

Before you attempt it, make absolute sure that you have the persistence to do it

Otherwise you're going nowhere

[tired haven]

Check scal nohit first

It's pretty much crusher of all hopes and dreams

[safe lava]

I will after three attempts on desert scourg NGAAAAH! quits

[quiet abyss]

Not worth it, trust me.
If you're gonna go for Untouchable/Dead Inside, you should find a better reason that will give you more motivation than just "this will give my baby yahron more chance to get in"
Like, going for it cause you like the role colors....
....Actually nvm that's a very bad reason xd

[safe lava]

Well

[tired haven]

Bragging rights are what it is about either way

[quiet abyss]

Well...actually, everyone going for the nohit roles don't really have any "good" reasons

[heady comet]

Getting good at coding might get you developer and will honestly be better in the long run

[quiet abyss]

^

[heady comet]

Im not even joking

[safe lava]

Reasoning:
A: it’s the best bet of baby Yharon
B: bragging rights
C: skillz
D: the rank
E: did I mention bragging rights

Ok so first off, do I have to do both?

[quiet abyss]

I went for Dead Inside purely to test my skills, LompL went for Untouchable cause he wants the red color, then Dead Inside after to "finish the journey", Pyros's reason is cause he got plenty of free times and want to fight bosses etc.

[sleek wigeon]

No

just untouchable

aka rev no hits

[quiet abyss]

Dead Inside get one item, Untouchable get one item

[sleek wigeon]

theres also a long list of rules involved

[safe lava]

Ok. I’ve heard that Dead Inside is much easier to get, due to the mega adrenaline boost, EXCEPT for SCal

[quiet abyss]

...Not much easier

[safe lava]

I mean not MUCH easier but easier

I just thought of a single problem

[sleek wigeon]

yeah but scal is the biggest roadblock

by far

[safe lava]

What screen recorder do I have

[sleek wigeon]

pick up obs

[safe lava]

That can balance decent quality with performance

My problem

Is

[heady comet]

There are also ~16 people attempting the challenge currently and the role itself could possibly lose enough value for it to be worthless

[safe lava]

DDR2

Memory

[sleek wigeon]

untouchable in: updates_and_spoilers paste that into the search bar to see the full list of rules

[quiet abyss]

iirc, only the first 5 Dead Inside/Untouchable get to give item

[sleek wigeon]

I dont recall that at all

citation needed

[quiet abyss]

There's a nohit rule doc pinned in help/advice though

[safe lava]

I read that

I’m glad they banned Star cannon. That thing just decimates bosses

[quiet abyss]

Honestly, pretty much everyone going for the nohit roles, both currently and had already goten the roles, don't really go for them for items.

[safe lava]

I got it super early game, excpected to have a fight with desert scourge. Nope, fight takes about 5 seconds

Is the Daedelus allowed?

[sleek wigeon]

the items are the only incentive though

[safe lava]

Oh wait lemme check

[sleek wigeon]

if item nor role incentives werent offered, noone would be doing it

not noone, but very very very few peeps

[heady comet]

[clever pendant]

inb4 an ingame reward is added

[sleek wigeon]

ingame reward would never be worth it though

[heady comet]

Does hollow even have any rewards besides fabs admiration

[sleek wigeon]

you're spending so much time, so much mental well being, so much pain and suffering for some item thats just gone when you start your next character?

Not as far as im aware

[quiet abyss]

I went for Dead Inside in a period of impulsiveness, combined with the crave for challenge.
LompL went for Untouchable cause he "wants the cool color", then DI cause "Having only Unt feels incomplete"
Pyros plans on going for Unt then DI cause "he has free time, and he wants to fight bosses"
Ein went for DI cause he wants bragging rights
And everyone else currently also going for Unt/DI like Spriggan, Snivy etc. are also going for those two roles for similarly insignificant reasons.

[heady comet]

Omg i want apple juice to be in the game and to give all good buffs in the game and a full health heal if the players'name is apple j

[quiet abyss]

^ Pretty much kinda like this tbh

[heady comet]

can this be a thing though

[sleek wigeon]

for the small price of your soul, sure.

[quiet abyss]

To sum it up: Unless you have very high persistence/stubbornness/patience and sufficient dodging skills (or always have room for improvement), getting Unt/DI is naught but a far away dream

[sleek wigeon]

that goes without saying

"doing the nigh impossible challenge is impossible unless your really determined, stubborn, or patient"
gee whiz, wouldve never guessed

[clever pendant]

The only good reason is beIN a Dev, seeing if it's feasible, and also seeing how tough the players have it and that's what you want

[quiet abyss]

When I first started I didn't even think I'll be able to make it at first, thinking I'll give up somewhere around mid-hm.
But nope: I found myself getting more and more motivated and confident as I go on.
I did have a slight confidence and motivation loss at ML, and quite a decent one at SCal for a while, but luckily Leviathan inspired and motivated me enough with his Death SCal No Rage/Adrenaline video that come just in time

[ancient dragon]

Cryolite? Isn't that BtFA?

[vague olive]

Thats spirit iirc

[earnest raptor]

I'm forgot name of post-Cryogen Ore.

[quiet abyss]

Cryonic ores

[earnest raptor]

Tranks.

[sudden quail]

Selfthrow?

[earnest raptor]

It's throw themself, as throwing knife.

I'm not good in english.

[ancient dragon]

...So it's just a sword that can also be used as a throwing knife?

[earnest raptor]

It's cool.

[ancient dragon]

Iiiiif ya say so.

[sudden quail]

Grammatically, that doesn't make sense - weapons can't throw themselves unless they're sentient and magical

[quiet abyss]

^

[sudden quail]

It would make more sense if you said something like "the knife gets thrown"

[earnest raptor]

Changed.

[sudden quail]

Good on ya

[vague olive]

Seems like a melee/throwing hybrid weapon

kinda like the aethers whisper

[sudden quail]

Kinda like that one sword from Thorium but it's a melee weapon that deals throwing damage

however that works

[dense girder]

@final lantern Don't they already?

I could swear that they play their individual themes during the DoG fight

[deft jasper]

they do

farming CV said so

[dense girder]

maybe he just kills them too fast so he doesn't hear?

[viral lake]

"The Sun God Staff should deal more damage while the MOAB is equipped for... obvious reasons." ?

[dense girder]

^ ????

[heady comet]

Oh its a bloons meme

[dense girder]

explain

[heady comet]

Sun gods are a thing and moabs are also a thing in bloons that do cool pew pew thing

[quiet abyss]

Moab is from Bloons, a game where you defend bloons from invading your home by using monkey "towers"
Sun God is one of the most powerful monkey "tower" ingame, and Moab is bloon that's usually pretty deadly if you don't prepare for it.
...But I still don't understand why Sun God would deal more damage when you have Moab equip. If anything, the suggestion should make the Sun God staff unusable/attack you while you're equiping moab if they're going for bloons logic/meme

@sudden quail I-Is-Are you suggesting Dart Monkeys!?

👀

[dense girder]

Why is Bloons so popular to make references of

grr

[quiet abyss]

@sudden quail Should've made the post-ML upgrade super monkey fan club tbh

[sudden quail]

Damn right I am

[worthy fiber]

sounds fun

[sudden quail]

I also suggested the upgraded Dart Monkey because catapults are underrated

Trebuchets pls fuck off

[quiet abyss]

Mhm true

Not many people knew the "Super Juggernaut" strat

Or "Super Catapult"

[dense girder]

fixed

[quiet abyss]

I love how I can just use super monkey fan club, upgrade one of the affected monkey into juggernaut, and laughs maniacally as the Juggernaut fires giant spiked balls at a speed of super monkey, and completely obliterated group of over 100 moabs xd

[dense girder]

what makes bloons so special anyways

looking it up, it's a boring 2d top-down tower defense game

[quiet abyss]

It's a simple but fun TD game

[dense girder]

all TD games are simple

[quiet abyss]

It's hard to explain...it's like...
The bloons games are addicting

[sudden quail]

Mostly because you get to kill balloons

[quiet abyss]

Can't explain it very well, but they just...are

[sudden quail]

As a monkey.

[dense girder]

i'd rather play minecraft tower defense grrrrrrrrr

[sudden quail]

That fires lasers from its head

[quiet abyss]

Like it's so satisfying to see thousands of bloons getting popped by a group of overpowered monkeys

Not to mention all the upgrades

[dense girder]

[quiet abyss]

Come on, one of the upgrade is a deathray. How can you not like the feeling of popping moabs with deathray?

[dense girder]

i want to kill creepers in minecraft tower defense with a furnace cannon

how do you not see the superiority in that

[quiet abyss]

xd I guess one of its charm is how chaotic and messy it gets late game

[violet talon]

shouldnt this be in #general-talk ?

[quiet abyss]

Ah ye, sorry

[ashen warren]

why are so many people trying to reference bloons

dear god

[tired haven]

Probably MGR and bloons have too much in common

[vague olive]

Basically the dame game tbh

[ashen warren]

@wheat cedar no meme suggestions

@fossil torrent delete that "yes"

[quiet abyss]

^

[ruby cobalt]

can y'all idiots not post non-suggestion shit in #suggestions-voting @fossil torrent @cinder locust

[fossil torrent]

hrr

[ruby cobalt]

thank you

[cinder locust]

Well ok?

Gonna delete this suggest though =T

[ruby cobalt]

don't

just slap it into one

[ashen warren]

stop memeing

[cinder locust]

Where?

This was bassicly in suggesting thing =T

[ashen warren]

no

@fossil torrent

thats a meme

[fossil torrent]

frrr

[opal barn]

@steady iris ffs shut up and delete that\

[steady iris]

lmao

[ashen warren]

yet

"battle royale mode" is still not deleted

[cinder locust]

A very friendly suggestion =T

[steady iris]

yay i triggered someone

please delete "battle royale mode"

[ruby cobalt]

@worthy raptor can we get some brainletry purging

[cinder locust]

I think he is left

[steady iris]

⭐ @wheat cedar

[worthy raptor]

big smh

[ashen warren]

battle royale mode in calamity

[worthy raptor]

@wheat cedar no dumb / meme suggestions please, muted (he was already warned)

[ashen warren]

tbh his profile pic is starting to piss me off

[cinder locust]

E thing?

[cyan lagoon]

smh

not pinging mods

[steady iris]

🇪

[cyan lagoon]

Probably might not happen

since violet for such a grindworthy armor is pretty dumb, also elemental accessories use rainbow despite them being non-expert

[cinder locust]

You keep typing?

[gritty crow]

“Enemies could be stranded in the void, like bad community suggestions”

Dead

[quasi fable]

Halibut cannon locked behind eidolon wyrm

Any thoughts?

[dense girder]

No

[quasi fable]

As in, cant be used before killing it

[dense girder]

As in "don't suggest that it's dumb"

oh

i'd say can't be used before Golem

[quasi fable]

Its essentially yharims crystal 2

No it destroys moonlord in under a minute

[elder sparrow]

apotheosis

[dense girder]

post-prov

[tired haven]

Halibut is fun, leave it as it is

[dense girder]

i mean as it is it's already really rare

1/1000 chance

[tired haven]

If a person is immature enough to use it for serious prehm/hm fights it deserves being laughed at

[ashen warren]

what does halibut drop from ?

[dense girder]

any abyss enemy 0.1% chance

[tired haven]

Any abyss enemy

[dense girder]

eidolon juvenile, colossal squid and reaper shark 1%

adult eidolon 10%

[violet talon]

all others 0.1%

[sterile moon]

how about a new teir?

[quasi fable]

Tier; what colour

And what purpose

[sterile moon]

above demon shade and post scal

[quasi fable]

Hmm

[sterile moon]

so you can prepare for the new bosses

maybe

dreadon teir?

[quasi fable]

Eh the current endgame cant be used to judge the futurw

[sterile moon]

true

aslo

auric tesla armor + demon shade armor = exo suit

[quasi fable]

However

A rev tier would be nice

For rev items

[sterile moon]

rev?

revengence?

[quasi fable]

Yes

Actually

[white laurel]

Auric armor is pretty much exo armor, just a different name and pallet really

[sterile moon]

true

anyways

[ashen warren]

exosuit

sounds like a subnautica reference to me

[sterile moon]

is anyone on the new teir train?

dreadon teir anyone?

[vague olive]

How about wait until he gets ingame

[sterile moon]

who is he?

[vague olive]

Dobr make suggestions for things that arent ingame yet

Draedon

[ashen warren]

^

[sterile moon]

oh ok

buff vivid calarity

[odd terrace]

@sterile moon Welcome to the Buff Vivid Clarity Club

[soft grail]

about the ceaseless void the void is locked inside a very hard shell that the DOG and Calamitas combined their powers to make. the void will be unable to suck a player in as it is locked inside it's nigh-unbreakable prison.

[cyan lagoon]

That theme is already being used for SC

unless you're talking about when Dokuro eventually because he hates the mere mention of her and the word theme together makes his SC track

[hollow shell]

@clever pendant ^

(you have to ping them or they'll never see it)

If you did indeed know that theme is currently being used, that language could be clearer in your suggestion

Because it is indeed "being used for something" currently

[clever pendant]

As a placeholder, afaik, and nothing more

[ashen warren]

Hahahahhahhahaha

I am smart

[fleet fox]

Oh look, another one complaining about items

Sorry

That's a stupid idea

[ashen warren]

Bruh

Half the ideas ever made in #suggestions-voting are way more idiotic

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fleet fox]

Half?

[ashen warren]

Idk

[fleet fox]

Your suggestion is way worse than every other

[ashen warren]

A lot of them

How

Exactly

[clever pendant]

Grind, foo'.

[ashen warren]

It’s ok for people to suggest crafting recipes for everything else, like fucking shoe spikes, and mine gets called out for stupidity?

That makes sense

I stop now

[fleet fox]

Shoe spikes make sense

[dense girder]

Yours is being called out because it's ridiculous

[ashen warren]

How?

[dense girder]

The Shoe Spikes and Climbing Claws are not guaranteed to be found without extensive digging and searching whereas Night's Edge/Bloody Edge are made of different swords that aren't even hard to get

A Crimson Crusher Blade does more damage and would be easier to get than your suggestion for the Bloody Edge

vice versa for Night's Edge and Corrupted Crusher Blade

Add souls of night for both and some ichor/cursed flames and sure I guess

At least then you can't get it early on and cheat but you can still get it easily when you need it in Hardmode

[fleet fox]

Yeah

It would make sense

[ashen warren]

:/ could’ve just said that and not call me out for sheer stupidity

But I have to go now

Peace

[fleet fox]

Peace

[dense girder]

Chaos

[violet talon]

also

night's edge is post-skele

and that recipe would make it pre-skele

[fleet fox]

No it's not

[rugged acorn]

yes it is

[violet talon]

muramasa

[dense girder]

^

lel

[fleet fox]

Ah right

MURAMASA

I REMEMBERED NOW

ALL THOSE TRAPPED MEMORIES

[dense girder]

Imagine a world where Night's Edge needs Murasama for its recipe

[fleet fox]

That world would make Night's Edge pre boss

[violet talon]

also, night's edge is made from swords

and it doesnt make sense being made out of demonite

because it's the combined form of 4 swords, it shouldnt be craftable any other way

[fleet fox]

Yeah

[rugged acorn]

i dont ever play melee, is it even a good weapon to fight bosses with

[fleet fox]

Night's Edge is terrible against bosses

I tried it on my first playtrough

It's only good for WoF, but it still makes people suffer

[rugged acorn]

I figured, it's a true melee with a short reach

[fleet fox]

Yeah

[crude quartz]

Night’s Stabber is far superior

[rugged acorn]

"but it's not a broadsword, therefore it is automatically weaker"

[crude quartz]

welcome to shortsword heaven

[rugged acorn]

shortswords b underrated af

[violet talon]

scal vs copper shortsword no armor no accessories

[rugged acorn]

i dont even think copper swords exist

[crude quartz]

speaking of which, how many times has a Bloody Stabber been suggested?

[rugged acorn]

oh wait, they do

cactus sword and other types of wooden swords do more damage than copper swords

[sterile moon]

indeed

[hazy glacier]

cactus in general is better to start out with

[sterile moon]

tbh i never get any cactus armor or weapons/tools

wulfrum is better

[hazy glacier]

I find it worth it to go wood -> cactus -> Demonite/Crimtane

well

wulfrum is good

But it takes a bit of time to get it

but that’s why it’s good obv

[violet talon]

might want to take it to #calamity-mod-talk

[fleet fox]

What wyrms are you talking about?

[violet talon]

eidolon wyrms

i didnt say worms lol

[rugged acorn]

i like getting cactus in the beginning, get rid of that shitty copper pick with -1 range

[fleet fox]

No one talked about worms

[hazy glacier]

wyrms are supposed to cheap hit you though

[violet talon]

they're supposed to?

[rugged acorn]

yes

you're not even supposed to fight the adult

they're supposed to just kill you

[violet talon]

well

[hazy glacier]

like a dungeon guardian of the sea

[violet talon]

when im trying to farm for things

a frikin juvenile comes along

[hazy glacier]

It’s not supposed to be easy

[fleet fox]

Yeah

[dense girder]

IMO there should be a different theme for Calamitas and use Raw, Unfiltered Calamity for SCal with a prelude for the bullet hell

It fits the fight so well as an epic last fight compared to grim church bells and techno

[gritty crow]

Dokuro is going to make "stained, brutal Calamity" eventually

[dense girder]

boo

[gritty crow]

Ah, not a fan of Dokuro then?

[west prairie]

How

[dense nebula]

woo

[dense girder]

no I do love dokuro

but raw unfiltered calamity for scal fits better imo

unless he can top the sentinels theme for Scal I'm out

[gritty crow]

But you haven't even heard what the new theme would be

[dense girder]

unless he can top the sentinels theme for Scal I'm out

[west prairie]

Raw unfiltered calamity fits clonelamitas because it’s a mashup of previous boss motifs

[gritty crow]

Whatever floats your goat I guess

[dense girder]

it'd be even more fitting for Scal then because it throws you back to every boss you've fought up to that point

make a mashup for all themes up to Yharon and you got yourself a nice scal theme

[west prairie]

No, only the early bosses

[dense girder]

I know

[west prairie]

Yeah that was the original plan but Dokuro scrapped it

[clever pendant]

Actually Now Stop Asking Where really fits. Because it's a fight that requires calm, and it stresses you the FUCK out. Also it's not like other boss fights, it looks frantic but really frantic is the last thing you want to be.

[dense girder]

hmmm

who will the final boss be?

[west prairie]

Yharim

[gritty crow]

Except for DoG and Yharon, and Bumblebirb, and Plaguebringer, and Providence...

[dense girder]

draedon, yharim, goozma?

[clever pendant]

It also conveys impending doom and fear. Fitting for a literal embodiment of fear, no?

[dense girder]

braelor

[gritty crow]

Eh, felt a bit too slow after Yharon's theme tbh

[dense girder]

^

Yharim's theme at the least could be a mashup of every theme up to then

[clever pendant]

It's fight with slow, precise movements if you're going fkr winning jt

[gritty crow]

Plus with Yharon getting RoTJD at some point...

[dense girder]

I'm guessing Yharim is the true final boss with none after?

[ruby cobalt]

if you don't count superbosses? yep

[dense girder]

Then it would definitely fit

[gritty crow]

I thought SCal comes before Yharim (you know, based off the dialogue)

[dense girder]

She does

[gritty crow]

But Yharim is only a normal boss not a superboss?

[dense girder]

IIRC

SCal will be downgraded to normal boss

Then there's Draedon and Yharim

Goozma will be a superboss

[clever pendant]

And mystery boss we know nothing about.
It IS the CALAMITY Mod so some kind of Calamitas wouldn't be impossible, or it could be fuggin Andromeda if that still exists in the lore, but really we don't even know of it's been mentioned previously at all

[dense girder]

Omega Calamitas

Supreme Yharim

[sinful violet]

it's exodia

[dense girder]

yes sir offtopic

will leave sir

[gritty crow]

Oof if calamitas is only a normal boss... I fear what super boss levels of strength will be

But yeah let's get back on topic

[ruby cobalt]

supreme calamitas is your superboss

[ashen warren]

Scal is getting her super boss rank revoked I think

As soon as I add Cursed flame and Ichor to the recipe, it booms in popularity

[dense girder]

Because it's balanced now

well it's crafting night's edge so no

[ashen warren]

Oof

[dense girder]

but still

better than before

[ashen warren]

:/ oh well

[ruby cobalt]

also slap something like 5 of purified gel

and we're golden

perfectly balanced

[ashen warren]

Too much

[violet talon]

omg

this idea is so dumb

[ruby cobalt]

nah, the entire purpose of that recipe is to make night's edge and bloody edge less stupid to craft in HM+

[ashen warren]

Nights Edge and Bloody Edge are not powerful once Hardmode starts

[ruby cobalt]

and SG is anything but hard at that point

[violet talon]

night's edge is special and shouldnt be crafted with raw materials

[ashen warren]

Bruh

[ruby cobalt]

so it just makes the recipe slightly harder so you still have to work for it

[ashen warren]

Calamity gives not two shits about that

Well it cares about farming

[sinful violet]

exoblade tbh

[ashen warren]

Damn It my timing is off by 20 yards

I’m not doing so good now

After watching Game Theory’s episode

Should I suggest adding souls of light to Excaliburs recipe?

[sleek wigeon]

That craftable nights edge suggestion is blarg. nights edge isnt even hard to get.

[ashen warren]

Tell that to Muramasa

[dense girder]

it may not be hard to get

but it's annoying to get

[ashen warren]

Besides, the recipe gets people to farm bosses

:/

[dense girder]

"oh boy i'm here farming... jungle spores and stingers again how exhilarating"

getting grass blade in a nutshell

[ashen warren]

Basically

Plus imo, the Nights Edge recipe in its current state makes no sense

[sleek wigeon]

muramasa is also easy to get

cant you craft it with cobalt in calamity?

[dense girder]

ye

but it's getting the blade of grass and fiery greatsword that's annoying

[ashen warren]

:/

[dense girder]

if you get a corrupted crusher blade prehm, you don't need either

so you have to farm for them in hm

[ruby cobalt]

greatsword isn't even close to being annoying

[dense girder]

and with the harder, new enemies it's annoying

[sleek wigeon]

both of those are also easy

[vague olive]

Literally mine hellstone

[sleek wigeon]

just... go to the jungle

once

and go to hell

[ashen warren]

Uh

[sleek wigeon]

once

[vague olive]

i think youre just really lazy

[dense girder]

i'd rather just craft the blade in about five seconds ty

yep

[ashen warren]

The spores are fucking slow ass growers

[dense girder]

that too

[sinful violet]

wait why do you even want to change excaliber

[sleek wigeon]

Not really

[ashen warren]

Idk

[sleek wigeon]

they are obscenely common once you get deep enough

[ashen warren]

Consistently with my other suggestion

[hazy glacier]

Yeah

[dense girder]

Actually I think the Excalibur suggestion is pretty fine

[ashen warren]

Thank

[dense girder]

Makes sense that a sword of 100% hallow has some hallow components

[hazy glacier]

you aren’t supposed to be able to get the terra blade easily

[dense girder]

it's not hard to get

just tedious

[ashen warren]

That’s why MOTHRON exists

[sleek wigeon]

ITS NOT EVEN TEDIOUS

[dense girder]

caps

[hazy glacier]

shut

[sleek wigeon]

NOT IF YOU GET THE WEAPONS AT THE TIER YOUR SUPPOSED TO

[dense girder]

caps

[sleek wigeon]

IF YOU FARM ALL THE MATERIALS AT ONCE NO SHIT ITS GONNA BE TEDIOUS. I AM SCREAMING RN. ITS LIKE EXOBLADE. DONT FARM IT ALL AT ONCE YOU NOODLE

[dense girder]

mods, caps spammer

[hazy glacier]

jones isn’t wrong

[ashen warren]

TerraBlade isn’t easy to get cause Mothron

I rest my case

[dense girder]

Your case sucks

[hazy glacier]

mothron isn’t that bad

[sleek wigeon]

wow a 25% chance against an easy miniboss

[fleet fox]

Yeah

[sleek wigeon]

so fucking hard

[hazy glacier]

Just Zerg it if you can’t get mothron

[fleet fox]

And Zerg

[dense girder]

problem is this is a pretty high-speed mod, it accelerates towards the end to the point where all you care about is "bang 500 damage" so imagine you forget to get all four swords and you need terratomere

you gotta farm alllllll the shit and it's real fuckin annoying that late

[sleek wigeon]

That sounds like a personally problem

[hazy glacier]

^

[sleek wigeon]

dont play so fast and loose

and maybe you wont have this problem

[vague olive]

Hey made exo weapons not have weapons in their recipe thanks

[dense girder]

You can't not play fast and loose without not playing calamity smh

[sleek wigeon]

Citation needed

[hazy glacier]

just get stuff in advance

[sleek wigeon]

Because i play slow and build and fish every damn playthrough

[dense girder]

Space between DoG and Yharon is tiny, you just make the stuff from DoG and fight Yharon, if that aint fast then damn

well fishing comes early on

and taking earlygame slow and easy is good

[sleek wigeon]

This isnt about lategame though

[dense girder]

gotta Chill 😎

[hazy glacier]

you have to farm dog between dog and yharon

[sleek wigeon]

'NIGHTS EDGE IS EARLY GAME YOU NOODLE

[hazy glacier]

terra blade isn’t even post-ml

[dense girder]

do you have a capslock fetish meh i give up

[sleek wigeon]

I do against noodles lemme tell you

[dense girder]

no point arguing with these non-intellectuals

[sleek wigeon]

Said the fast and loose playing noodle

[hazy glacier]

Dabbing in 2018?

looks like it’s time for another crusade

[sleek wigeon]

To purge the infidels and take back the holy land?

Sounds fun, count me in

[hazy glacier]

all in the name of providence

the profaned flame

[fleet fox]

You mean "All in the name of Sargassum" the Profaned Admin

[violet talon]

#general-talk skrubs

[dense girder]

@ashen warren already suggested

[gilded surge]

yeah like 5 times

[violet talon]

already suggested, solo

[gilded surge]

^

[hazy glacier]

I counted

supreme and/or omega mana potions have been requested a total of 7 times

[gilded surge]

yeah

[dense girder]

[gilded surge]

exactly

[ashen warren]

Kay

[violet talon]

one has a lot of votes

over 35

[cobalt ferry]

I got a better idea

[violet talon]

got fitty

[rugged acorn]

just read the past 15 minutes in this channel, what the fuck

[safe gust]

Got 70 something

[cobalt ferry]

Make te nighs edge need every prehardmode sword

[safe gust]

For a bicycle

[cobalt ferry]

Problem solved

[hazy glacier]

the bike idea was cool tho

[violet talon]

lol ik

also

[dense girder]

night's edge needs murasama

technically prehm

[hazy glacier]

it does i think

[safe gust]

It'll complete my existence if it gets into the mod

[violet talon]

i doubt vanilla recipes aren't gonna be changed

[dense girder]

smh

read again @hazy glacier

[cobalt ferry]

Tbh

[rugged acorn]

"murasama"