This is where I stop in this discussion.
#suggestions-discussion
ancient dragon
grave valley
Lol
grave valley
There you go
quasi fable
@wheat cedar trolling is against the rules
grave valley
I was the player that went and beat ruby and emerald before the final boss
Probably why I see scal as the real ending.
ashen warren
delete that suggestion
vague olive
Fucl ofg with your meme suggestions @wheat cedar
ancient dragon
Neat. You don't speak for everyone, so please don't try to push that mentality to others, much less Fabsol.
grave valley
Umm... alexis are you speaking to me?
ancient dragon
Yes.
grave valley
what im expressing is only an opinion
Its not forced on anyoneZ
Are we not allowed to discuss opinions here?
quasi fable
When i think superboss i think specificslly of a ds game i had
ashen warren
i mean
quasi fable
Spiderwick something
ashen warren
fabsol said himself that he considers yharon to be the final boss of the mod
soooooooo
ancient dragon
I said push, not force. I deliberately avoided using that word.
And yes, I get that it's an opinion, but it's incredibly unpopular and incredibly unlikely make it in, and your vehemence at defending leads me to believe you really want it in.
quasi fable
There was a hidden dragon deep in a labyrinth
sly mauve
has everyone online gotten a look at my suggestion yet?
quasi fable
The vehement
grave valley
So pushing ideas onto the dev beyond a suggestion ONCE is just arrogance imo and I’d never do that to a developer.
sly mauve
It would mean a lot if you checked it out!
grave valley
What I wanted to say was that I will complete this mod ALL the way through.
quasi fable
100%
grave valley
and I wont stop at just the final boss because that would be denying the game its final level of challenge.
grave valley
I hope not
grave valley
I dont even see your suggestion.
sly mauve
like I am obsessed with the Eidolon stuff
ashen warren
dont look up r34
sly mauve
I am even adding something similar to my D&D campaign
allowing adept mages to start that process
hollow shell
offtopic, jack
please refrain
ashen warren
zach would be interested
sly mauve
bows oh man
ancient dragon
That's fine, Sarairis, but you're missing the point of the dev weapons here. They're developer weapons, meant to be absolute and all-overpowering. Asking to have a craftable weapon stronger than one dedicated specifically to the devteam is ludicrous.
I understand that it might be disappointing for you, but SCal is a huge obstacle that is entirely optional as of right now, and thus it warrants the overpowered rewards.
Once she gets demoted of the status of superboss and replaced by Goozma and the other, currently unknown superboss, those weapons will move tier.
ashen warren
too many cultist vanities
hollow shell
also @sinful violet or other relevant moderator probably should delete @wheat cedar's thing in Suggestions, and maybe place a warn for meme suggestions
ancient dragon
My apologies for the mini-wall, but I figured this needed a big explanation.
sly mauve
I'm sorry, did you mean not enough
deft jasper
what did he suggest?
ashen warren
i got lompl to do it @hollow shell
ashen warren
he didnt suggest anything
sly mauve
does anyone have any criticism on mine? I tried to not make it powerful, as much as I would like it to be
grave valley
@ancient dragon i understand. I suppose what I wanted was dev weapons to be at the end of a huge tree since it would feel like more of a reward with maybe the last few materials being scal drops. I suppose it makes sense to have it as a drop though. I appreciate the wall. Ive changed my view of the mods structure as a result.
grave valley
But Earth
ancient dragon
Well, I'm glad to have helped you change your pov. And they're not necessarily drops, it's just that they one is guaranteed to drop from SCal along with the Calamitous Essences which you use to craft the rest.
grave valley
yeah but thats 1 step crafting.
whatever im not getting back into this
Dev weapons are optional.
that is basically my conclusion.
ancient dragon
Yes, yes, I wasn't going to argue further, it was just a clarification.
grave valley
Dude im not even home atm
Ive cured my terraria blue balls by reading the will
*wiki
like top to bottom
ancient dragon
I... see...
ancient dragon
Soon™.
zinc lantern
like 98% of the game has dm dokuro's music.. so why can't literally one other person keep the theme of the deep abyss??
ashen warren
ill send a screenshot of soul of the universe
i like rl'yeh or whatever its called more the void
zinc lantern
yeah same
ashen warren
feels really menacing
sly mauve
do you think they'll add my numbers together
ancient dragon
Commenting on your own suggestion time and time again makes you sound obnoxious and desperate. If you want people talking about it, just... wait for them to do so. Stop inciting.
zinc lantern
ahh you have to get 35 stars for your suggestion to get sent to developers, and it's run by a bot, probs not
ashen warren
@grave valley
ancient dragon
Also, Fabsol himself has dropped the whole grindy schtick with late-endgame stuff. It was annoying as hell, and now it's gone.
grave valley
yoooo fargo mod
ancient dragon
@ashen warren #other-mod-talk.
vague olive
Suggestion: elemental kunai, a throwing weapon that is obtained at the same tier as other elemental weapons
What it does: Works like the malachites right click where it is thrown at a very high velocity and is unaffected by gravity. Can pierce two enemies before breaking on the third. Five homing shards spawn on each enemy hit. These stay in the same spot, not dealing damage for a second before homing into the nearest enemy. The shards do not pierce.
How its made: 5 galactica singularities, 5 luminite, 5 bar of life,. 100 crystal piercers, 100 gel darts and 100 xeroc pitchforks.
Why it should be added: I think it should be added because the only elemental weapon throwing has is the elemental disk which is shared with melee. There are also not many throwing weapons that are useable against providence and the profaned guardians.
Anything I should change?
grave valley
Seems neat although it doesn’t seem to solve the providence problem.
sly mauve
providence problem?
ancient dragon
The one he mentioned himself.
grave valley
throwing weapon usable on providence
hollow shell
Why doesn't it?
ancient dragon
I personally haven't fought Prov as a thrower so I wouldn't know, but it sounds like a good choice in theory.
quiet abyss
I just tested...xeroc pitchforks on providence are fricking powerful.
Like, super powerful
grave valley
Well, imo, a throwing weapon of that tier already exists
So damage is no improvement
That leaves the effect
Which doesn’t seem to be particularly effective at providence.
hollow shell
post it, p0rtal
I'd star it
quiet abyss
Look at those xeroc pitchforks damage
Like throwing doesn't have much options gainst provi rn but holy shit
ancient dragon
Well, besides that there's the fact that each class has at least 2 elemental weapons.
...Except thrower.
zinc lantern
summoner?
grave valley
All new items (as long as theyre not bullshit) I like because its more content, so I like it
ancient dragon
I mean, I don't think it needs another one but it also wouldn't hurt.
grave valley
granted, im not a thrower so idk
grave valley
Im a mêlée myself, but gunner is my second
Speaking of second classes, it would be kinda nice to be able to swap between sets of equipment
zinc lantern
exoshark would be cool
grave valley
Confogurably i mean
Also, imo the single shot stuff is neater
Railguns and the like
quiet abyss
Throwing only really struggles from post golem to ML rn.
I did make suggestions for a post-golem throwing weapon that's good for PBG and Duke, and a post-luna cultist pre-ML throwing weapon that's good for ML, and both of them reached 35 stars, tho not sure if both will be implemented
ancient dragon
Let's hope so.
vague olive
Main reason was because the only ele throwing weapon is shared with melee
quiet abyss
Mhm
ashen warren
ele disk is really underwhelming too
vague olive
Ele disk is good
grave valley
Is there any item that sucks enemies in?
ashen warren
afaik no
grave valley
Hmm. Doesn’t seem terribly useful later but as a mid game farming thing it send neat
*seems
ashen warren
dunno what mod its from , but a mod adds an early game boomerang that pierces infinitely but doesnt do damage , but it picks up items along its path and brings them to you
grave valley
Neat idea but I already have a magnet
And id honestly rather just walk. Does it pierce tiles?
grave valley
Could be useful.
grave valley
yeah but conveyor belts aren’t for exploring with
ancient dragon
It's the loot-a-rang from Thorium, and it doesn't go through tiles. It does stun enemies though, since it's basically a Zelda reference.
ashen warren
^
grave valley
Hmm... Thats pretty bad <_<
ancient dragon
Luiafk already has a Loot Magnet with worldwide reach so whatever.
grave valley
Okay holy shit fargo mod is mental
I just finished reading accessories...
exoblade is a component.
what.
ruby cobalt
souls are "balanced" around endgame
ruby cobalt
so enabling calamity, thorium and other such mods will bloaten up the recipe with modded items
ashen warren
i did a supermodded playthrough and still made soul of the universe
and yes
with thorium on you need an entire new soul
for sotu , ofc
crafting all of the exo tier weapons sure is a healthy grind
ashen warren
exoblade honestly isnt as bad as it looks
heavenly gale's crafting is the shitty one
ashen warren
lol
grave valley
That took me forever until I found the recipe
ashen warren
almost positive calamity makes sure at least one shrine in your world have one in it
grave valley
I just crafted it
Couldn’t find the shrine.
But I already need a terra blade for something else
So thats another two goddamn enchanted swords
ashen warren
y
grave valley
Holy crap you straight up need every exo weapon.
ashen warren
its not as bad as it looks
grave valley
fuck me.
ashen warren
the abyss is ez whats ur prooblem
grave valley
I have one and am in the process of crafting the diving shit
But god damn my jellyfish drops are just not happening.
ruby cobalt
still waiting for jellyfish necklace to be craftable
actually wait, fargo gives it a recipe
ancient dragon
Cosmic Elementals drop Enchanted Swords, by the way. Also, #other-mod-talk.
clever pendant
ancient dragon
Cellectial Shell's my favorite item tbh.
ancient dragon
That really doesn't excuse the piss-poor grammar.
bitter drift
well you have to deal with it cuz i'm facking done going to translate for every problem of grammer i have
heady comet
Hold back alexis
ancient dragon
Right, my bad.
sudden quail
Please just make sure your grammar and spelling are proper when you improve.
Because it really is piss-poor, as said.
bitter drift
any way lets get back on subgect 😅
ancient dragon
Yeah, I wasn't really going to just dump on the guy, just explain the good practice of improving your grammar, spelling and etc.
bitter drift
and i'm trying
ancient dragon
But anyways, I'm pretty thunderstruck at the fact the Shell doesn't have an upgrade.
I could've sworn it did, but I was wrong.
bitter topaz
you mean the celestial shell?
ancient dragon
Yes.
bitter topaz
the stone crafts into the daedalus emblem iirc
but the shell is completely ignored in crafting
ancient dragon
But. But that's really dumb.
bitter drift
and before you say how does it connect the shilled has the same problem
grave valley
Yoyo bag upgrade exists in other mods js
bitter drift
some how it can make you dash i didn't see a counter scarf or shilled of cathulululu or master ninja gear in the ingreadians
or a tabi
ancient dragon
...What fresh hell are you on about? The Asgard's Valor?
bitter topaz
can someone translate whatever they just said?
bitter drift
the anck/anke shilled
grave valley
Shield
ancient dragon
Asgard's Valor doesn't have any dashing items in its ingredients yet it can dash.
Which is frankly the most dumbfounding argument I've ever seen.
bitter drift
so it have the same problem with my soul light and night idea
heady comet
Once a single Eater of Worlds, the Perforators are separate entities that have lost the need for their eyes after evolving to live as a parasite inside the creature called the Brain of Cthulhu.
ancient dragon
It. It doesn't.
heady comet
Meme
bitter drift
now that i got that out of the way
grave valley
Shield of cthulu no?
heady comet
Lol all the perforators have eyes but lost the need for their eyes
Im not blaming them for having eyes but i can relate to this on a spiritual level
ancient dragon
I don't think those slits count as real eyes, though. They're just... slits.
heady comet
I've seen my own eyes and they look like that
ancient dragon
...Oh.
bitter drift
my idea of upgrading the shell contains the spirits of night and light staff how does it connect no idea but if the asgard's valor have the (kinda) same problem and no one is complaining then why complain about my suggestion that is what i'm getting on
ancient dragon
Because the Asgard's Valor is fucking useful.
quiet abyss
^
ancient dragon
Also, the effects that item of yours even gives are negligible when compared to other gear of the same tier. If you want an upgrade to the Shell so badly though, the Dark Sun Ring exists.
bitter drift
that is soo late game and will not help with any thing the tier is post lunatic cultist
ancient dragon
You're ignoring my first point to make that claim. It's still borderline worthless compared to other accs available at that point in time.
bitter topaz
English: 100 
bitter drift
yes yes it isn't my first lungweg and i'm 14
ancient dragon
Speech 100.
Also, if you could make a compelling case as to why I should replace any of the items in the boss guide for your item, I'd come out in full support of it.
ashen warren
'lungweg'
Honestly I kinda think the boss guide should be updated to reflect the most advanced item you can get at the time - if I remember correctly you can have meteorite weapons pre any boss
bitter drift
@ashen warren you can't i tried you can't brake meteorit pre EoW/BoC
ancient dragon
Yes, the progression changes have returned things in pre-hm to how they were, however the guide explicitly states it runs with the usual linear progression.
bitter drift
where is that guide
ancient dragon
You can bomb meteorites or mine them with the Reaver Shark. Any previous restrictions have been lifted.
#help-advice-read-pins's pins.
ashen warren
iirc gold pickaxe and above mines meteorite too
bitter drift
no they can't in calamity
ashen warren
You can bomb them anyways lul
ancient dragon
Yes, they can.
You're probably thinking of the older updates where the Reaver Shark was prohibited and Meteorite was made unminable until post-evil boss.
ashen warren
You can also fight Meteor Heads for the stuff.
bitter drift
so that got changed as well
ancient dragon
I just realized I haven't gone Melee in a while thanks to that suggestion.
bitter drift
i didn't find a reason so i buffet it again and added some things about that shell
ancient dragon
Holy shit, the whole thing?!
ashen warren
@novel fulcrum 2x damage for classes is insanely overpowered
ancient dragon
wanting to get rid of the entire point of the class and its calamity change for more dps
dull kite
^
bitter topaz
@ashen warren wouldn't "The Jungle Tyrant's victims stir..." be a better message?
rugged finch
2x damage 
quasi fable
Also slain
bitter topaz
all i see from that suggestion is add snas from undertail
muted birch
You mean ness?
muted birch
Just make one of those skull laser things 1 hit yharim if you chose to spare the bosses
bitter topaz
thanks,
ashen warren
No Prob
bitter topaz
main draw for thinking of it is you're not introduced to anything to do with yharim or his troop, etc. until hardmode, so you'd only know him as the "jungle tyrant"
ashen warren
Make's sense
bitter drift
@ashen warren did you do something with our ideas
ashen warren
I havent done anything yet
bitter drift
ok just wandering
dense girder
Undertale Calamity 
ashen warren
bitter topaz
@ashen warren that isn't what calamity is for.
it's for difficulty, not vanity and other useless stuff like that
ashen warren
Still would be a nice little featute to add names to weapons and armor
bitter topaz
not calamity's job
bitter topaz
what vanity does calamity have besides boss masks
ashen warren
Dyes
bitter topaz
because afaik they're the only vanity, and there solely for consistency between it and vanilla
dyes? such as?
opal barn
pets
ashen warren
What about the armor and dyes made to thank people
delicate raft
Isn't there a mod that lets the player rename items?
ashen warren
@ashen warren Theres a mod that lets you do that
bitter topaz
and ore bricks and trophies are again made for concistency iirc
ashen warren
Whats it called
delicate raft
lol
sudden quail
Pretty sure fab is also planning on adding furniture
ashen warren
He is
ashen warren
Calamity isint just boss fights
fervent zealot
but it also isn't garbage cosmetic options
ashen warren
Its for music
sudden quail
Calamity is a mod based one one person's ideas, and some of those ideas happen to involve vanity.
fervent zealot
name a vanity item then
sudden quail
I just did
fervent zealot
no you didn't
ashen warren
You make a suggestion then vrolijk
fervent zealot
already have in the past
sudden quail
Ore bricks, boss trophies and eventually furniture
fervent zealot
ore bricks weren't done by fab
fervent zealot
trophies are just a common courtetsy as well
sudden quail
Correct, but he approved of them
fervent zealot
by popular request
sudden quail
Pretty sure literally none of the sprites were made by Fab either, aside from a few
bitter topaz
the only sprites that have been for vanity/cosmetic reasons and requested by fab are the trophies and boss masks
ashen warren
It dosent matter if fab made them it matters if its in the mod
sudden quail
^
bitter topaz
all of which are solely there for consistency between the base game and the mod
fervent zealot
^
ashen warren
All im saying is calamiry dident just add bosses and enemies it added in vanity too
bitter topaz
fab has a very direct philosphy of "everything needs a purpose"
fervent zealot
it really doesn't
ashen warren
Not every iteam needs a purpose
ashen warren
Calamity still has vanity
Fabsol has a final say on literally everything that gets implemented in the mod
And Calamity doesnt have vanity other than the miscellaneous items
why dont you 2 make a suggestion then
bitter topaz
what would we suggest that's useful?
i've got no real balance issues that i'd like to see addressed,
ashen warren
Yes go make a suggestion if you know whats usefull and not usefull
vague olive
I dont think thats possible unless vanilla terraria does it
delicate raft
What
vague olive
The renaming thing
delicate raft
It is
ashen warren
See active crismism not just saying it isint a game changer so it dosent matter
bitter topaz
there's a mod that does it iirc
delicate raft
A mod already does it
vague olive
Oh ok
sudden quail
Does the mod work?
ashen warren
Whats it called
delicate raft
I believe it still works
ashen warren
It works
Ive used it a TON
I dont remember the name for some reason
Well fab has the final say in it if he puts ot in he does if bot he dosent nothing really changes
Mobile discord sucks
fervent zealot
trusted people have a say if it even has a chance of surviving
so far the trusted people say no as it's not starred yet
dense girder
I like how there's an entire wall of unstarred suggestions except for Wased's which has a star
sudden quail
tfw my Lihzarhd Karambit suggestion has only 7 stars but the other post-ML jungle enemy has 41
dense girder
Bealtle, I think your WoF suggestion is a big no-no
But that ML suggestion is a huge improvement than 5 different messages
ashen warren
Its status messages
The game gets bombarded with status messages especially with WoF
dense girder
Your WoF message is really unclear because that early on people have no idea who the Jungle Tyrant is and they think it's something to do with the jungle
ashen warren
Vrolijk have you made a suggestion and if you dont get 50 stars in the first 10 min
vague olive
Can you guys stop complaining about your suggestions not getting stars
dense girder
They would have no real easy way of knowing it was to do with Hell and the Snow biomes until they discovered on their own
ashen warren
Spirits of Dark and Light doesnt make sense either to new players
fervent zealot
they sound ominous
dense girder
They find out soon enough and easy that it's Corruption and Hallow
fervent zealot
boom
dense girder
but for somebody who just wants a mod and has 0 knowledge on the mod they don't know what the heck the Jungle Tyrant is
dense girder
@sudden quail That's because both cause the Abyss enemies to drop the shit iirc
ashen warren
@sudden quail That suggestion is just, wha?
dense girder
Not just Calamitas
sudden quail
Ah SHIT really?
bitter topaz
that's a bug iirc
sudden quail
Thought it was just calamitas that caused it
ashen warren
OOOF
sudden quail
Should I delet?
sudden quail
Welp there goes any semblence of self-respect I have now
bitter topaz
that was my edit, thanks for noticing it
ashen warren
OOf
dull kite
smh bidoof
ashen warren
You guys just kindof shit on suggestion dontcha
dense girder
Ones that don't make any sense, yes
bitter topaz
^
fervent zealot
yes, because it's unfitting for calamity
dense girder
If it's considerable as a possible semblance of an idea go ahead 
sudden quail
Like all the suggestions I made before the one I just deleted
ashen warren
If you know so much about the game then why not make a suggestion
fervent zealot
literally just made a status message change suggestion
sudden quail
Same for me, pretty much. Used up all my brain juice on the Lihzahrd suggestion
elder sparrow
i used up my big brain on storm surge buff
dense girder
it's like if you say to a friend "Hey I'm hungry, could you order me eight pizzas so I don't get embarrassed but you do?"
bitter topaz
my only suggestions are when it comes to boss or armour balance tbh, because that's what i'm good at
sudden quail
I reckon I might start making a pastebin of all my enemy ideas, like how that one guy made one for extra flails, and stuff
bitter topaz
that'd be a good idea
dense girder
I think there should be a lot more to do in Pre-HM
Like I know there's a lot already
But say you just finished SCal and basically 100%'d your world
If you start a new survival everything moves so slow and it's kinda boring really
The mod just accelerates as you get closer to SCal
fervent zealot
wulfrum is already extremely good
ashen warren
If your gonna say a suggestion has no place then you should be makeinf suggestion since you know what is good
dense girder
That's frustrating, not fun
Daddy I've already made 102 suggestions
My brain power is empty
fervent zealot
just because i don't make suggestions doesn't mean i don't know how to constructively criticize
i have a lot of ideas but i think they're all shit
ashen warren
You dident do constructive criticism you just said it had no place
fervent zealot
yes, that's telling you why it's not good
dense girder
Because it was a suggestion that was made with no prior research
ruby cobalt
102 suggestions btw
fervent zealot
there's no construct to be had other tthan it's out of place
dense girder
56 suggestions then
sudden quail
https://pastebin.com/3Phhz3zn Alright here's the current pastebin, with the three enemy ideas I already have posted.
ruby cobalt
if I go ahead and count all of that I'm pretty sure I'll gut ~80 of those messages
sudden quail
Gonna think of more to add tomorrow
dense girder
At least some of my suggestiosn get enough stars
sudden quail
Do me do me do me
sudden quail
Oh shit
dense girder
You got 1390 guy
ruby cobalt
you can literally just do ctrl+f, from: name, in: #suggestions-voting
sudden quail
wait what
ruby cobalt
smh, lazy asses
quasi fable
I did
dense girder
21 of which are actual star suggestions
quasi fable
768 messages
ashen warren
That was my first suggestion
fervent zealot
do some research before you suggest
ashen warren
Like what
fervent zealot
there's already a mod that does exactly what you want
dense girder
Look, you made a suggestion, people didn't like it
sudden quail
Okay I double checked and I only made like 30 posts after the bot was added
dense girder
That's basically 85% of suggestions here
What you suggested and what That Guy suggested are very different
cyan lagoon
get a mod that just does that =/= why the suggestion is bad
sudden quail
tfw my first two suggestions both almost had enough stars to be noticed by the bot twice
ashen warren
I dident know there was another mod
bitter topaz
may be worth reposting them if they were a while ago.
ashen warren
Everyone knows/dosent know about certain stuff
dense girder
You suggested something that wouldn't really fit the mod and that already existed in a different mod, not to mention Drew probably wouldn't have the time to code a whole new station, and That Guy suggested something without even trying to research if it was a bug Sorry, that guy
round falcon
i've made like 8 suggestions
sudden quail
Haha no worries, that one's completely my fault
sudden quail
Alright sleepy time for me, gonna think of more mobs to make that won't be added
ruby cobalt
there's always asstral biome that might need things
bitter topaz
astral would be super hard to theme properly tbh,
bitter topaz
since it's quite lacking in public information afaik, along with going through a (soft) rework
dense girder
not good enough 
better lore required
dense girder
@tight chasm you're a genius
sly mauve
Hey! I’d appreciate it if everyone took a look at my suggestion from yesterday around 10:00pm, and offer and feedback or criticism?
sinful violet
Lets not purposefully ask for people to look at certain suggestions, thank you.
We'd like for everything to be considered, but the dev team already has a lot of work, and there a lot of suggestions people would like to get in.
sly mauve
Alright, I just feel like I posted it at a bad time is all
neon panther
hey guys check out my suggestion
woops
definitely an accident 
but @alpine copper, maybe have her throw her little orb as a boomerang?
alpine copper
Yeah something like that
The standard sandy waifu is basically a typical sand elemental but friendly, the rare one needs to do something different
Cuz' it's "rare"
neon panther
@dense girder its a mistake, the normal one and rare one are gonna be swapped (i think)
so the one without much effort is the normal waifu in a bottle, and the re-done one is rare
neon panther
tbh i think when they swap it'll be fine
because waifu in a bottle wouldnt be too different
but a rare one, thats gonna be different
dense girder
i think my hatred towards it is more to the fact that it doesn't even summon a regular Elemental
it summons a slightly modified one which I think comes off to me as just being an attempt to make it look unique to the mod
tired haven
Yet Yet another boss healthbar ft. Calamity Mod?
ebon mortar
This have hotkey to disabled storm or rain effects
ashen warren
Oof
sleek wigeon
@neon panther
sleek wigeon
i think its based around lighting mode actually
so technically you sorta do have a hotkey?
maiden scaffold
that seems like trouble Anervaria
especially if you decide to play a little more casually and play with more mods than just Calamity like a lot of people might do, that could lock out drops
ashen warren
@little jolt that suggestion is cool, but doesn’t make sense entirely. Mainly because you are WANTING TO FUCK WITH VANILLA CODE WHICH WE LNOW IS A PAIN IN THE FUCKING ASS
tired haven
Personally I don't think plague instantly taking over 100% of jungle creatures makes much sense
ashen warren
^
maiden scaffold
i think it's kinda cool to help get more plague containers but fighting goliath usually got you around 30+ because of the plaguebringers spawned
ashen warren
@little jolt that second suggestion tho is reasonable
little jolt
i just think that, currently, the plagued jungle doesn't do a good job of selling the danger of the plague that you get when you read the lore
little jolt
I dunno anything about coding but yeah it seems like a pain in the ass to fuck with vanilla code
bitter drift
ya but only the trappers, creepers and arapiamas i think
little jolt
but it would sell the atmosphere quite nicely
little jolt
yeah I get that
would be nice tho
also I think that plague taking over 100% of jungle creatures makes sense because in PBG's lore, the plague's effects were worded like this: "...contracted the plague and proceeded to spread it further still, cascading through the ecosystem in the blink of an eye. The outbreak was uncontrollable, the nanomachines impossible to purge from the cyborg insects without destroying them entirely."
ashen warren
That’s was what happened in the past
And don’t you take into account that maybe the Plague spreading was over dramaticised
bitter drift
then how golem of all things releas it
muted birch
Kill the dryad? As in the town NPC? @bitter drift
ashen warren
:/ because Profaned magic?
muted birch
Also don't the pins say not to do waifu suggestions
bitter drift
yes
ashen warren
Well I think we can now, just that they have vary little probability of getting in now
muted birch
Also why would you need to kill the Dryad for a waifu?
bitter drift
wait lizareds are one of the mobs that didn't get sick is the golem just an absorver of the pluge and when we killed it the pluge spread again
little jolt
I get that the lore could be overdramaticized but that would be really lame wouldn't it
bitter topaz
an upgrade to the RoD would be OP as all shit
little jolt
^
small plover
I would say that you instead of locking out "vanillla" Jungle Enemies, just reduce thier Spawns by alot
ashen warren
imagine being able to spam rod w out the debuff
small plover
and make them "rare" mobs
ashen warren
jesus christ op af
bitter topaz
there's no way you could balance it, at most having the debuff not allow you to teleport while under it is how far you could go
otherwise you just get something absurdly OP
alpine copper
Instead of a jungle waifu, killing the dryad in hard mode could drop a dryad waifu @bitter drift
bitter drift
@muted birch PBG already drop an ainchant relic and the dryad is the most nature related thing the only thing other then her is planterra but i do not think that a carnivore plant will be the best thing for an army of thing that don't want to kill you SO MACH after all brimstone elemental and the others do take mercy and planterra doesn't but the dryad is
and that the way to get her
the jungle waifu
ashen warren
do we really need more waifus they lag the game like hell
muted birch
Yes but why make it drop from a town NPC?
bitter drift
no
muted birch
Why have it be sold by them since all the others are dropped from bosses/minibosses
bitter drift
it will be just like the other waifus and one of them replace the normal sand waifu the one with a terraria sprite
so don't concern your self @ashen warren
ashen warren
just concerned cause more waifus means they need to be added to heart of elements
dense girder
HotE is shit either way
ruby cobalt
hell yea, let's add even more waifus so heart of the harem becomes even shittier
maybe then people will stop going for it every single fucking playthrough
bitter drift
both are a suggestion so switch the normal sand waifu
it's or the icy one or the jungled one i'm good with both will be added
ashen warren
pls no more waifus
muted birch
Just make it drop from the Earth(?) elemental and not the dryad
Or make some jungle elemental
bitter drift
it's not a new waifu it's a replacement of the normal sandy waifu and the dryad is the best choice of jungled waifu
alpine copper
@ashen warren the point of HotE is having free slightly better than average minions
bitter drift
to but also to meme a little
novel lily
We can never have too much waifus
Calamity literature club, starring the waifus instead of those crazy bitches from the Doki Doki one
muted birch
So about 90% of calamity
alpine copper
Tbh I'm tired of grinding for 24 hours for an accesory that simply doesn't drop so here goes nothing: increase drop chance of HotE components
bitter drift
you can chose witch way to go
the ice waifu
the jungled waifu
non
or both
alpine copper
I lost count of how many times I killed cryogen
dense girder
lifeform analyzer
bitter drift
use the rune @alpine copper
alpine copper
What are its effects now?@bitter drift
bitter drift
increases the drop chance of rare items dk by how much
bitter drift
onix blaster it
alpine copper
But not that close
alpine copper
I currently need the chaos stone
bitter drift
onix blaster can get you all the way to post golem
alpine copper
In rev?
alpine copper
Ty anyway dryad waifu cuz' is an interesting concept
bitter drift
and it has an upgrade that can get you post c void
thanks
from what contery are you just want to know i'm from israel
bitter drift
you will have a hard time against the crying oxigen but a fun one non the less
bitter drift
@alpine copper i have even more jokes if you want to hear
rugged finch
Not too sure if my suggestion makes a lot of sense, I will add onto it if I need to.
ashen warren
You suggestion makes sense
dense girder
I don't think so
bitter drift
but not enoth
dense girder
it keeps it a bit balanced that you don't get such OP weapons early on if you kill Leviathan which is already super hard pre-plantera in rev
muted birch
Well you can kill Slime God before slime king and cruise through Pre-Hardcore
Same concept
rugged finch
The Devs are trying to make it so that bosses can be fought earlier on, so I don't see why Levi is different
gilded surge
I agree
muted birch
?
gilded surge
The IOU makes no sense
bitter drift
remove the IOU and make levi drop loot only in hard mode
alpine copper
Levi was supposed to be fought post plantera pre astrum so killing her pre plantera was the reason of the IOU
I don't like it but it makes sense
muted birch
The IOU should still exist in prehardmode
rugged finch
Killing Levi in prehardmode is a very hard task though, but I see what you mean
muted birch
Because thats taking it a little too far
alpine copper
Unless you are leviathan I don't think you can kill Levi pre hardmode
bitter drift
only if you bring an onix blaster from another world
bitter drift
and have the bundle of balloons and the pre hard mode wings
dense girder
skyline wings? bah
alpine copper
@dense girder no it's not
dense girder
....yes, it is
taking in later-progression items to assist you in a different world is textbook cheating
"hurdur im pre-eoc but i used a terra blade its not cheating"
alpine copper
It only cheating if you like kill eoc with a meowmere
rugged finch
The scenario is that you are stuck to this world, just this world and only Calamity
dense girder
^
bitter drift
the point is that you have to cheat or can't kill it in pre hard mode
in a human way
dense girder
bringing some gold, i mean sure it isn't that bad
just like not 90 gold or 13 platinum
bitter drift
no it isn't
rugged finch
It doesn't have to be killed prehardmode? You can but it would be a very hard task, and if you manage to pull it off surely you deserve that loot?
bitter drift
and why not you can cuz you can get that money at the start at the start (if you grind for 1000 days)
dense girder
It would speed up the game and just take all the fun out of it
It's like being at the start but with the Last Tantrum (AlchemistNPC gun, does 60k damage/shot), there's no fun in fighting enemies or bosses
If you wait up until Plantera where it makes things more challenging that allows for a better gameplay experience than "bang, dead" x10,000
rugged finch
Its the player's choice, if you want to get deserved loot kill leviathan. If you want to cheat nothing is stopping you. I don't see why you have to see why you would wait for your reward. But either way its the Dev's choice if they want it in the game.
bitter drift
welp i'm going to sleep it's 23:19 pm
zinc lantern
Mezing how about you still get an IOU from the leviathan, but you can craft it into anything you want at a mythril anvil instead..? So it's not post-plantera but also not pre-hm.
bitter drift
it needs a living shard also. can't slepp💢
rugged finch
Ill tweak the suggestion message
zinc lantern
at mythril anvil
dense girder
that sounds balanced
dense girder
no, just a weapon.
that seems balanced enough.
a full bag would be going kind of overboard ocean joke
bitter drift
it will flood the balance
rugged finch
Mmm.. Ill keep it for now, the devs choice anyways.
hollow shell
@rough basin Please try to put your suggestion into one message so it's easier to Star and send in
rough basin
ah, my bad
hollow shell
Thank you
(also I think that is intended to prevent cheap hits)
(don't quote me on that tho)
@subtle zinc big images
subtle zinc
i could just put it into a document
neon panther
and the sprites could use a bit of work aswell
subtle zinc
as i said, they were "sprite ideas"
hollow shell
You have like 60 years worth of empty space around those
just try and get rid of the empty space and edit the URLs
subtle zinc
ok
neon panther
and weapons arent typically animated
neon panther
fair enough
i like it over-all though
1 last thing, change the name of the repeater, since repeaters are more like crossbows
smol
ashen warren
re: prov hitboxes
hollow shell
oooh, yeah
Those guardian hitboxes are messed up
subtle zinc
oh ok
hollow shell
(also geez, HP bar spoilers)
ashen warren
mmm interesting hitboxes on guardians
subtle zinc
the heads are missing
ruby cobalt
holy shit is that a suggestion with actual sprites
subtle zinc
there
hollow shell
or that wide, probably
ruby cobalt
donut boxes could be changed..
subtle zinc
the sprites are fixed
ruby cobalt
quite a bit, I'd say
tired haven
Yeah they are a bit lower than you'd expect
hollow shell
Nice, Cornetto 👍
subtle zinc
thx
tired haven
It needs to be a block or even two upper tbh
subtle zinc
its just supposed to be an alternate to the firestorm cannon and the spectralstorm cannon
subtle zinc
thanks
tired haven
Yeah, snowball cannon upgrades sound about right way to go
ashen warren
@subtle zinc avalauncher is the best item name i have ever heard , if you came up with that you deserve a lot lmao
subtle zinc
It was a random thought
muted birch
Now make an upgrade for the snowball turret
dense girder
Snowball Cannon
dense girder
Ice Pounder
neon panther
just ping them from here and tell them to delete 
dense girder
Snowball Turret, Snow Cannon, Ice Pounder, Slush Assimilator
dense girder
Mold Breaker
dense girder
Pancham breaks the mold!
no @warm bone
that is a rather terrible and useless idea
warm bone
it's harmless though
dense girder
it has no use and is nowhere near a reward for pre-hm levi
warm bone
it's literally a bragging rights reward though, it has no purpose
tired haven
IOU can be gained in hm as well hax
warm bone
it's more to show you were absolutely insane enough to do it
subtle zinc
people can just use a post ML char, go to a world and farm for ???
tired haven
Also if smth bragging rights if ever implemented could be used in quite wider spectre of bosses then
warm bone
But Leviathan is the only hardmode boss feasibly fightable pre-hardmode
bitter topaz
levi is technically a pre-ks boss
hollow shell
I'd say beating Moon Lord as soon as you enter Hardmode is a more braggable action
subtle zinc
you need to beat golem first
cyan lagoon
IOU
subtle zinc
dont you?
hollow shell
Nope
hollow shell
Well, you need to beat Skeletron first
subtle zinc
oh did they tinker it
dense girder
which summons the cultist
subtle zinc
ohk
dense girder
and the abyss if you're that mad
hollow shell
Actually technically you could dig into the side of the Abyss and kill and Eidolist there
no Skeletron required
it's just hard to
not die
really fast
warm bone
but the abyss only extends into the water, the gravel outside it doesn't count
dense girder
actually no
in one of my worlds the abyss cut right through the dungeon
and just by standing on the outskirts of the gravel I got buttfucked by eidolists and oarfish
ashen warren
if you dig a pocket in the abyss and go in it the game registers you as not in the abyss
no water = not in the biome
dense girder
well there was already water where I was standing that I presume was generated in the dungeon naturally
so I guess that contributes
standing in water + near enough abyss gravel at a depth = abyss i guess
ashen warren
“i guess”
subtle zinc
Should i do a resprite for the two weapons
neon panther
it just needs to be re-shaded imo
dense girder
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
https://piskel-imgstore-b.appspot.com/img/6f4b7e5c-8df2-11e8-9742-afaa1714bbe5.gif this one in particular
subtle zinc
ok
ashen warren
the back end lol
dense girder
idk the correct term but on the base of this i think you have two-tone shading? https://piskel-imgstore-b.appspot.com/img/952c6d33-8df2-11e8-8cde-afaa1714bbe5.gif
where it's just one color, then halfway down it's another
subtle zinc
the base or the barrel?
dense girder
base
dense girder
taking sprite help from vanilla sprites
subtle zinc
h e h
swift wharf
sly mauve
Aww @lethal ledge you flatter me
lethal ledge
xd
subtle zinc
minigum?
lethal ledge
hey i have a eidolon elemental idea
subtle zinc
ohwoops
dense girder
big titty worm cultist
lethal ledge
but idk what her familiar should be called
Eidolon Elemental
She spawns post-ML . Similar to the other elementals (Brimstone, Cloud, Sand, etc). She has a purple-black color scheme. (Could someone maybe make a Sprite for it?). She has small horns on her head similar to the ones Eidolon Wyrms have, except they are smaller. Along with that, she also has Red-Purple snakes for hair. Her stats would be as seen below:
Melee: 100 / 126 / 133-170 / 175-204 (pre-Providence)
240 / 380 (post-Providence)
Max Life: 40,000 / 56,000 / 63,500 / 123,000 (pre-Providence)
380,000 / 530,000 (post-Providence)
Drops:
-Normal Eidolists Drops
dense girder
okay none of this matters at all, because waifus exist purely for the tits.
jokes aside
is that a boss suggestion?
subtle zinc
there fixed it
lethal ledge
well she could be a boss
dense girder
dense girder
that's a boss
subtle zinc
*miniboss
lethal ledge
Yeha ya nerd
subtle zinc
it could be a miniboss
dense girder
that's fine
subtle zinc
like the sand elemental and cloud elemental
dense girder
i would NOT mind never having to see an eidolist in the abyss post-plantera, rather an elemental who rarely spawns
dense girder
summoner?
sly mauve
Ooooh what if she dropped a summon weapon??
Summon a tiny Eidolon Wyrm, like the stardust dragon
lethal ledge
Well i was gonna have her drop a friendly eidolon elemental accessory
lethal ledge
No
sly mauve
???
dense girder
To my memory the only boss who drops a throwing weapon is the DS in Revengeance
dense girder
Great another ranged weapon
lethal ledge
no
dense girder
sly mauve
throws ice storm
dense girder
^
subtle zinc
lethal ledge
throws eidolon wyrms
dense girder
Oh shit
subtle zinc
v
dense girder
Throws a bolt of lightning that splits and homes in on enemies
Like the Crystalline
lethal ledge
i need an item name
dense girder
But homing and better
sly mauve
Ooooooh
lethal ledge
for the elemental
sly mauve
Uuuuh
subtle zinc
Throws a gun that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns that shoots guns
dense girder
Depth Pebble
lethal ledge
titty pebble
dense girder
sly mauve
Abyssal overcharger?
sly mauve
What affects did we decide on? Sorry, I’m driving right now
dense girder
Try this on for size
Eidolon Elemental
Replaces Eidolists in the Abyss post-Plantera. Similar to the other elementals (Brimstone, Cloud, Sand, etc). She has a purple-black color scheme. She has small horns on her head similar to the ones Eidolon Wyrms have, except they are smaller. Along with that, she also has Red-Purple snakes for hair.
Drops:
-Normal Eidolists Drops
-Navy Thunder
> Decent speed throwing weapon
> A lightning bolt that splits into four smaller lightning bolts that home in and cause Electrosphere explosions
-whatever the fuck you call her elemental summon
STOP TYPING AND DRIVING
YOU'LL DIE
lethal ledge
LITERALLY
sly mauve
But what if I want to die, and I’m using speech to text
lethal ledge
ok
rugged finch
Lmao I love that suggestion for some reason
dense girder
Lies, otherwise that sentence would say But what if I want a manta, and I'm seeing speech text
lethal ledge
ok i'll use that Aquamarine THunder item
sly mauve
Oh, I was thinking we were coming up with the weapon name, not the Summon
dense girder
mods have said before that pointing out your stars is close enough to asking for em
lethal ledge
Eidolon Elemental
She spawns post-ML . Similar to the other elementals (Brimstone, Cloud, Sand, etc). She has a purple-black color scheme. (Could someone maybe make a Sprite for it?). She has small horns on her head similar to the ones Eidolon Wyrms have, except they are smaller. Along with that, she also has Red-Purple snakes for hair.
Drops:
-Normal Eidolists Drops
-Marine Thunder (credit to @dense girder for idea)
Decent speed throwing weapon
A lightning bolt that splits into four smaller lightning
-Abyssal Stone. (See Below)
Abyssal Stone
Similar to Waifu In a Bottle, Rose Stone, etc, it summons a friendly Eidolon Elemental.
oops
dense girder
my eyes
it's all highlighted in yellow
also
don't suggest stats
i mean you can
but more often than not they won't get used
lethal ledge
okk
dense girder
fab will make his own stats so adding your own just adds clutter to the thing
well
you can
just
it's frowned upon
lethal ledge
there
sly mauve
Okay if I rewrite my suggestion can I repost it or something
subtle zinc
aquatic thunder?
lethal ledge
i like that name better
dense girder
un-F
dense girder
Navy sounds cooler
lethal ledge
no it doesnt nerd
dense girder
left crag
Hmmmmmm
dense girder
left crag
Aquatic
sly mauve
I prefer abyssal
left crag
Sounds more menacing to me
dense girder
wait