#suggestions-discussion

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sleek wigeon
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huh, cali drops broken hero swords now

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neat

steep island
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And this is suggestion related how?

sleek wigeon
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snot really but this message is

hollow shell
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@lucid marsh seriously

sinful violet
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why

sleek wigeon
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dont put items in bloodstone only items

sinful violet
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That's just dumb

sleek wigeon
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dont buff health as everything has to change to balance around that

hollow shell
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I'd advocate more for a Cleret Cannon + Aeries + maybe Cosmilite upgrade item

but i'm way more concerned about
the complete disregard for balance

sleek wigeon
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same

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you have to change health pots boss attack numbers, everything

ashen warren
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Give Ceasless Void a health buff post-Yharon.

sleek wigeon
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for what gain?

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... why?

hollow shell
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what is the purpose

sleek wigeon
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theres not even a flavor reason

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its just... why

ashen warren
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why

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what

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a n d why just ceaseless void

wide patrol
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"Shadowspec is reserved for dev items" People suggest for calamitous essence weapons

ashen warren
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calamitous essence and shadowspec are different

wide patrol
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Calamitous essence is mainly used for Shadowspec bars, and might as well be considered dev tier

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Wait

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This is dev stuff I'm talking about

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I should leave this to the mods, shouldn't I?

night cradle
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my first suggestion got 44 stars, tf? scalconfused

wide patrol
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Congrats

sleek wigeon
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i wish i had wiki editor so i could star that , elena

ashen warren
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is war elephant an enemy?

sleek wigeon
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of course

ashen warren
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i think that an hp tank enemy would be annoying as hell

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maybe not an hp tank?

sinful violet
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@sleek wigeon star is there now

ancient dragon
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Would like to mention that Tremor did huge bullet sponge enemies for their post-ML content.
We all saw how that turned out.

ashen warren
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considering its tremor we can guess

sudden quail
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Aw damn I just wanted an elephant enemy

ashen warren
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just get rid of hp sponge and it'll be fine

sudden quail
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Changed the HP bit and added a drop. Since the drop has a load of text, should I make that its own suggestion, or keep it as is?

ashen warren
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shockwave's cool

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could be a miniboss

sudden quail
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I already have another post-ML mob idea, this one also inspired by Age of Empires II.

ashen warren
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tell us it ma boi

quiet abyss
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Yo, now ya applejack xd

ashen warren
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this name needs changing

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: (

sudden quail
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Well, it's a Lihzarhd with normal Fighter AI, but its appearance causes identical Lihzarhds to spawn very rapidly. "Clones" can only spawn a certain amount of times, and "clones" can't spawn extra.

ashen warren
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thats interosting

sudden quail
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They're inspired by the Karambit Warrior, which has an incredibly low cost, trains very quickly and only takes up half a population unit, so the player can spam them to hell.

ashen warren
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oh yes

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sounds like the type of thing i want

sudden quail
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The Malay (which the Karambit Warriors are unique to) are essentially AoE's zerg rush civ

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And I fucking LOVE playing as them

ashen warren
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that sounds fun

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fuck nobody will know who i am now

quiet abyss
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xd

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Just changed ya name back to sappie and have a mod change ya nickname

ashen warren
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i did

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i changed my entire discord name

quiet abyss
ashen warren
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nobody knows who i am now

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oh whale

quiet abyss
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Just tell everyone you're sappie when they ask tbh

ashen warren
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im not sappie tho

quiet abyss
ashen warren
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lets do dat

sudden quail
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Should I post my Karambit Warrior suggestion now, or wait until others have posted so I don't clog the channel?

ashen warren
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wait till the morning

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you wont get stars until morning

sudden quail
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Awwwwwww but that's like 17 hours away

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Yeah alright

ashen warren
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ig you could post it now

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oh you live in a wayyyy different timezone wtf

sudden quail
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Straya

ashen warren
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'muric

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a

real parrot
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no

opal barn
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@molten notch no memes 😔

molten notch
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What

sudden quail
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@potent vortex Tell me, why are all of your suggestions completely lacking in detail?

potent vortex
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i'm a lazy cunt

ashen warren
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@potent vortex melee is absolutely viable before skeletron

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you just needa be careful

quiet abyss
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^

vague olive
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Read pins on how to ask things to be buffed

vague olive
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I think thats pretty underwhelming for an exo weapon

toxic pagoda
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Wait what my suggestion has 54 stars the hell?

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I thought it would have like 10 XD

ashen warren
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Honestly we need more rocket launchers

swift wharf
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Heh no one will get the reference from my weapon

cyan lagoon
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if its the volcannon from tremor i will break you

swift wharf
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Nope

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Also it needs a better name

ashen warren
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Good Name

ashen warren
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@hybrid notch Seriously?

tired haven
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Nobody said you can't craft more and it will cost much

ashen warren
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It’s essentially a meme suggestion

tired haven
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Well yes

ashen warren
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Its about time that the Exo-Yo-yo was revived

paper wagon
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Interesting idea...

ruby cobalt
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I got a better flavor text imo

ashen warren
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Okek

ruby cobalt
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"Even the greatest of blacksmiths needs relief sometimes"

ashen warren
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That’s much better

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There we go

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Thanks for the Flavor

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Is the name any good?

ruby cobalt
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looks good tbh

dense girder
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sounds like a hood greeting

ashen warren
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XD

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Wassup Drae-Yo

dense girder
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Draedon's Finger

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sounds better

ruby cobalt
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Drae-Bol

dense girder
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Draeabolical

round falcon
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drae-destruction

dense girder
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Draedon the Drag Queen

ashen warren
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XD

dense girder
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@steel pendant we have too many Hearts and Souls and shit

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make it Yharon's Liver

ashen warren
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Dreadons Finger sounds, gross

paper wagon
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Draestruction

dense girder
timber gale
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Draedonic Destruction, just to confuse people

round falcon
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yes thats what i was getting at haha

steel pendant
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@dense girder well if we’re going that far why not ā€˜Yharon’s dick’ /s

Never enough hearts and souls my collection must be completed to create the ultimate meme

dense girder
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Yharon's Pancreas

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Yharon's Eighteenth Kidney Stone

steel pendant
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Yharon’s Left Nipple

dense girder
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Yharon's Forehead

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YHARON'S TOES

ashen warren
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FIGHT MW I CHANGED THE NAME

bitter topaz
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Yharon's toe nail

ruby cobalt
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Yharon's Chicken Nugg

dense girder
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Yharon's Saying You're Offtopic

ashen warren
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Yes

dense girder
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Imitable no offense but

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that name is terrible

ashen warren
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Oooof

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What Name then my dude

dense girder
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Yoyaedon

ashen warren
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Nope the old name was better

ruby cobalt
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oof, rover went in with star sweep

ashen warren
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Lol

round falcon
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exoh-no

steel pendant
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How about name it Draedon’s Left Nut /s

I need help... lot’s of help, mentally and potentially physically

ashen warren
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You need Cosmint Hel

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P

ruby cobalt
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no, we're not buffing draedon's heart

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chill

ashen warren
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Oooooof

dense girder
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who are you to decide that

steel pendant
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Can we make demonshade worth it instead? K thx

dense girder
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Demonshade is worth it though

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right?

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idk

quasi fable
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Sirens heart+draedons heart šŸ˜šŸ˜©

steel pendant
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Auric gives better buffs

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Demonshade doesn’t even let you fight phase 2 yharon...

bitter topaz
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draedon's heart buffs? i might as well post my idea for one.

bitter drift
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just kill a mothron

ashen warren
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Auric Tesla became the Best armor while Demon shade let’s you have a, Red Devil?

ruby cobalt
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yeah

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which spams like extra 30k dps

ashen warren
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Well, the demon is worth it

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Cause you can on shot every boss

steel pendant
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Still isn’t worth it unless you want all dev items

bitter drift
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mabye buff it

ruby cobalt
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demonshade is big fat

dense girder
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can "one shot every boss"

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scal laughs

ruby cobalt
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but auric is still slightly better because it's 4 armors in 1

dense girder
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plus not dying-ness

ashen warren
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Ooooooof SCall is a super Boss

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For now anyways

dense girder
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yharon laughs

ashen warren
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XD

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Yharon big gay cause he has no lore

bitter drift
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he dose

ruby cobalt
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Yharon has lore, smh

steel pendant
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There just isn’t any incentive to take demonshade over auric :/ if there was I’d be interesting... red devil isn’t that cool

ashen warren
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Fuck I meant Yharim

ruby cobalt
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Yharim also has lore

bitter drift
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kinda

ruby cobalt
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who do you think wrote all those lore items that are completely useless once you've read them

ashen warren
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Yharim lore is vague

ruby cobalt
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not so vague

ashen warren
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SMGDH

steel pendant
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Someone with too much time on their hands

ruby cobalt
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a lad got tossed into lava along with his entire family

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dragon hatched out from an egg that also was there and carried him away

steel pendant
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Nice

ruby cobalt
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that lad proceeded to obliterate every living thing existing that was a threat to him

bitter drift
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all the start in a nut shell

ruby cobalt
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AND THEN WILD TERRARIAN APPEARED

ashen warren
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Honestly Calamity lore needs a COMPLETE REVAMP

dense girder
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calamitas the rock witch slash big eye

quasi fable
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Why

dense girder
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it's shit

steel pendant
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Stick it in a readable book that can be made from all lore items rescComfy

ashen warren
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Calamity lore makes no sense A) It’s too edgy to everyone outside of the community B) and it’s fueled by a toxic ass community

paper wagon
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It doesn't make no sense...

ashen warren
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SMH THERE ARE MANY PLOT HOLES

bitter drift
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but first the lore of portalgast asteral de-ass and that slime i won't prenonst

bitter topaz
ashen warren
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Honestly Terry just give use a timeline of the Calamity Lore

bitter topaz
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asteral de ass

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i'm calling astrum deus that from now on

dense girder
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fancy french dishes 101

bitter drift
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ta dam taaaaaammmmm

ashen warren
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Wtf

bitter topaz
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that's an amazing mispelling

paper wagon
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Well, the Lore just isn't finished yet :p

bitter drift
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ho i'm not even angry on this i'm just luthing lathing how ever you prenones it

ashen warren
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Even tho the lore is not finished, the current Lore doesn’t make sense as is

ruby cobalt
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anal deuce was better tbh

bitter drift
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the lore is unsolvable juuuust like another frenchise i know

ashen warren
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Like, wtf does the Abyss have anything to with the lore, why is the Deaert Scourge important at all, PBG lore out right makes no sense

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PBG is the worse culprit

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Cause the plague

bitter drift
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the ds have a lore

dense girder
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Even worse is the Wulfrum shit

ashen warren
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The God. Damn. Plague

dense girder
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No lore at all but they're drones

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Whomst the fuck built them

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They need lore

steel pendant
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Tbh the calamity lore makes more sense than some other games I’ve played

bitter drift
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like what fnaf

paper wagon
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Fair point xD

dense girder
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fnaf lore LUL

ashen warren
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Seriously just make me the lore master and I can make The Calamity Lore make sense and keep the original vine going

steel pendant
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Never played fnaf

ashen warren
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FBAF LORE SUCKS ASS

dense girder
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Good

bitter drift
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cus this point it is unsolveable

ashen warren
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Dat spelling tho

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FBAF

bitter drift
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then fix it

quasi fable
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Five šŸ…±ights at freddy's

ashen warren
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XD

bitter drift
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you mean five bites at freddys

ashen warren
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Lolol

steel pendant
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Well there is one game with the dumbest lore in existence more so than fnaf

dense girder
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Minecraft

bitter drift
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i'm still waiting on the lore of that franchise and mr. troll cothin here making it unsolvable

steel pendant
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the game is called ā€œOutsideā€

bitter drift
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never heard

steel pendant
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how? You’re also a player.

bitter drift
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what?

ashen warren
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I’ve never heard of this game

quasi fable
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Silly

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Its the largest free to play mmo

steel pendant
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Someone at least knows

quasi fable
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Riddled with microtransactions though

ashen warren
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Lol

bitter drift
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@steel pendant if you like this game sooo much just go to play it OUTSIDE TA DAM TAAAAAAAM just kidding

steel pendant
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My class is ā€˜Cave Hermit’ so I can’t :/

dense girder
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same

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worst ability, right

steel pendant
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Yep

bitter drift
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my ability is making dude jokes

steel pendant
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So you make male underwear...

ashen warren
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Oof

bitter drift
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what eww wtf is wrong with you

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don't tell me i already know

sinful violet
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Out

ashen warren
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Hi Mrrp

bitter drift
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is that mrrp

sinful violet
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No, it's a pink snake.

ashen warren
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Looks at profile

sinful violet
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Get on topic.

bitter drift
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i was just going to do that

ashen warren
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Okek

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8 Stars for a yo-yo

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How many peeps want this shit

bitter topaz
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probably not too many people looking in the discord right now

ashen warren
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True

bitter drift
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why you need 35 isn't 30 is better giving a chance to win but it will be deficult

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never knew never asked

ashen warren
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30 Stars is honestly pretty reasonable, and not too easy to achieve

bitter drift
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and able

ashen warren
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Oh I have an idea thats actually not op as fuck

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A giant floating island

bitter drift
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you know i once posted a suggestion that got a good discussion but the bot was out so how much stars it got idk

ashen warren
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Sad

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Do you remember it?

bitter drift
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yes kinda

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let me serch it

ashen warren
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Okek

bitter drift
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pure gel pack created by 1 royal gel 20 true shadow scales/20 blood samples 1 blue suletion 10 holy water 20 purified gel 100 gel increaces spawn rate of slimes,slimes will have 25% less health all type of slimes are friendly should be Because there isn't an upgrade to the royal gel and bad world gen + shity luck with new ore gen = have to grind slimes for 2 h

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@ashen warren got it

ashen warren
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I’m here

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there isn’t an upgrade to the Royal Gel

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I know this is before update I’m joker

dense girder
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isn't there?

bitter drift
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there isn't and that an old suggestion i bring

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cus the bot was down when i posted this

ashen warren
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Uh

cyan lagoon
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uh

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there isn't an upgrade to royal gel?

ashen warren
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Yes

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I’m dum

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I thought of Royal gem

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Not gel

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Smh I’m dum

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So I made the Giant Island suggestion

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:/\

neon panther
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@bitter topaz wrong channel AAAAA

ashen warren
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@bitter topaz NO TALKING IN THE SUGGESTIONS

bitter topaz
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fuck

ashen warren
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XD

bitter topaz
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the irony is strong

ashen warren
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@calm temple A mod does that already

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SMH

calm temple
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what mod?

bitter topaz
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anyway, lock it with a temple key, because actuators exist

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luiafk

ashen warren
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Solutions Mod

calm temple
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thanks

ashen warren
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Dude the Developer Wings are not over powered

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I fact they are worse than the Leaf Wings

dense girder
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^^^ dev wings suck

bitter topaz
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they'd be OP as shit for WoF/slime god

bitter drift
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most wings are worst then the leaf wings

dense girder
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well come on

ashen warren
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Dev wings are better than the Angel and Demon Wings tho

bitter topaz
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keep in mind we can craft temple keys now as soon as we enter hm

dense girder
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Surrounded by adamantite brick

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does that mean post-hm?

bitter topaz
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actuators would let you get them post-skele

dense girder
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to mine the brick, i mean

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hm

ashen warren
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Yes

dense girder
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in that case use lihzahrd brick

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you can't actuate it

ashen warren
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Okek

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Wellll

bitter topaz
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that'd then make it post-plant

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which would render them useless

ashen warren
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But dev Wings at that point are bad

dense girder
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Dev wings are terrible

ashen warren
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I keep it Adamantite

dense girder
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Do something better

quasi fable
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Ehhh

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Dev wings are trash

sinful violet
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wtf

ashen warren
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I can’t do something else without fucking up the balance

sinful violet
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you can actuate lihzard brick

ashen warren
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:/\

quasi fable
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Yesh i have seen speedruns whwre they do

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ML in 90 minutes

round falcon
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thers also hoiks

sinful violet
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imitable please

quasi fable
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I dont remember her name

ashen warren
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^

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What am I doing Mrrp?

bitter drift
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dogo what now you are going to cancel my suggestion

quasi fable
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I tgink its the world record though

round falcon
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what

sinful violet
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can't actuate lihzard brick

ashen warren
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I’m not saying that

round falcon
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i heard royal gel and im like "ok i have an idea for royal gel"

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what was your idea?

bitter drift
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i already put an idea for it

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damn it

round falcon
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here?

bitter drift
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yes

round falcon
bitter drift
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look up a bit

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in here

round falcon
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ok

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sorry

bitter drift
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ok

ashen warren
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Oof

round falcon
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im keeping mine there though

bitter drift
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did you even look

round falcon
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i did

bitter drift
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i swear if this is getting 35 stars idk what i'm gonna do

round falcon
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your idea is awesome but impractical imo

bitter drift
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cus the ironic is that i once put the hive pack in the suggestion

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later replaced it with the true shadow scals/blood samples

ashen warren
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So is the island too op or is it good?

ruby cobalt
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random dev wings?

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you sure?

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could be something more special

delicate raft
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Yeah, why dev wings?

bitter drift
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agreed

tired haven
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I wonder if making all helmets available to switch to other class via some crafting station would be even better

ashen warren
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I mean, like, idk

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Dev Wings was all that popped up in my head

neon panther
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maybe some new sky-themed item

ashen warren
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:/\

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Maybe a free Bundle of Balloons

neon panther
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Moab

ashen warren
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Lol

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Changed it :/\

ruby cobalt
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purified jam doesn't require a recipe

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because it's purpose is completely defeated at that point

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it was meant as an item to easily cheese bosses

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and none of them can be cheesed at that point

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maybe Yharon, but you're still likely to die to his charges, because 792 rev damage

ashen warren
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Oof

bitter drift
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yes i know there is a honey comb upgrade but it make the baloon useless

dense girder
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honey comb has always been 100% useless

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bee cloak is worse

bitter topaz
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bee cloak is the best upgrade wdym HDhurdur

bitter drift
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but this is for the baloon upgrade

ashen warren
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Speaking of balloons

plush gazelle
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it should go MOAB -> BFB -> ZOMG -> BAD

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complete the bloons reference

bitter topaz
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exo-MOAB? nice

bitter drift
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is that a refrence to baloons td games

ashen warren
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Nah, pushing a reference to far tends to not go well

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And MOAB and ZOMG are BTD references

bitter drift
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so @ashen warren lets see who's suggestion about the baloons will win

ashen warren
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Oof

hazy glacier
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I like the idea beatle

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But maybe not ZOMG

plush gazelle
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Beatles will, mostly because I cant bloody understand yours, adir

bitter topaz
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someone needs to star all of these tbh

hazy glacier
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^

ashen warren
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Oof

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What name do you recommend other than ZOMG without changing the Theme of it?

bitter topaz
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moab 2; eletric boogaloo Henkhenk

ashen warren
neon panther
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What does ZOMG stand for?

bitter drift
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is that a refrence to pvz heros

hazy glacier
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it’s literally z-oh-my-god

ashen warren
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Zeppelin of Mighty Garagantanus.

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That’s seriously what it means

hazy glacier
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that’s the BTD equivalent

ashen warren
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:) yup

hazy glacier
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I don’t really have a better idea for the name though

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best I could come up with was the sky tether

ashen warren
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Oof

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I’m keeping the name until I receive a better one

bitter topaz
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also, a minor thing, but it should also have the abilities of the angel treads if it's going to be an alt for the tracers

ashen warren
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It doesn’t include the Angel Treads

bitter topaz
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put it in then

hazy glacier
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but you said it’s an alt for the tracers

ashen warren
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True

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Lemme fix that

hazy glacier
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And if it’s an alt for the tracers it would have the same or similar stats

ashen warren
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Not really but ok

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Added the Angel treads and some speed information

bitter drift
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mabey zeppelin

ashen warren
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Nah

bitter drift
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welp i tried

ashen warren
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:/\ oof

neon panther
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Unnecessary but interesting idea: If you don’t defeat Slime God at the time you should, it will slowly get buffed (since it’s slowly gathering all the slimes). It wouldn’t have any AI changes, just some increased stats. It would get buffed after certain milestones, such as Hardmode, Plantera, Ravager, Post-ML, and post-DoG. Each time, a message would display, saying ā€œThe God of Slimes grows stronger...ā€ After you beat him, he stays with the stats he has and will not get buffed any more.

ashen warren
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That honestly makes life hell

bitter drift
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also fixed my suggestion

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99%

heady comet
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Exospears<Exospiky bols

ashen warren
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Oof

bitter topaz
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how dare you speak against the exo-spiky bois

ashen warren
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I like the image of a dude (Dr. Strange) flying via a cape

bitter drift
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@ashen warren while i get your idea i don't think there a need for it you will upgrade to and the traces any way

ashen warren
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They way you typed that makes it make no sense

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Are you saying it’s pointless?

bitter drift
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yes

ashen warren
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Bruh

bitter drift
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cus you will upgrade to the traces

ashen warren
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In that case, you just declared your suggestion pointless

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:/

bitter drift
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and then upgrade the traces

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and i meant your idea

ashen warren
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We’ve had the Seraphim Tracers + forever with no variety

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That why I suggested it

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Post ML Wings are bland at this point is what I’m saying

bitter drift
#

i get it but this is a bit point less since everyone will get the wing that to activate you just need to hold and get away from the mashing wings

ashen warren
#

I have no idea what your saying

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I’m trying to understand but I’m failing

bitter drift
#

with the moab you need to mash spacebar right

ashen warren
#

It’s not button mash unless you make it so

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And Wings are just as button mashing as jumping

bitter drift
#

i mean tap it repitedly

ashen warren
#

Wings are the same deal

fervent zealot
#

you can hold space for wings

ashen warren
#

Yeah

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But what about SCal

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Jumps are most preferable than Flying, cause really you need a RoD and enough jump night and some skill to dodge the mother fucking bullets

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And the MOAB does have actual flight time like wings

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It’s not like it’s entirely jumping

bitter drift
#

yes but the problem is that you will need to tap the spacebar again and again and again to even get to the flight of the moab and with even more balloons it takes even longer

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and the taping is something a lot are forgoting

ashen warren
#

Maybe some people want to try jumping instead of flying

bitter topaz
#

^

bitter drift
#

sill get you idea a post moon lord balloon flight

bitter topaz
#

the jumps do have their advantages over normal flight

ashen warren
#

^

bitter topaz
#

they allow for quick bursts of momentum vs. longer, sustained flight

ashen warren
#

Holy shit things are getting technical

bitter topaz
#

let's use DoG's old laser walls as an example

ashen warren
#

He still has them

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Just different functionality

bitter topaz
#

i mean the singular gap ones

bitter drift
#

mabye make it pre provedunce uleibloom bar the moab and mabye even combine ideas

ashen warren
#

I know

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Uelibloom is only Post Providence

bitter topaz
#

lets say it spawns at the top, and your flight speed is slightly too low to get to it in time, and you take damage

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ignoring the RoD as thing here btw

ashen warren
#

RoD is always ignored in these situations

sturdy dock
#

Should have said "You thought MOAB was bananas?" instead of nuts smugyon

ashen warren
#

Hahahahahahha

bitter drift
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you can find and mine uelibloom pre provedunce

fervent zealot
#

no you can't lol

ashen warren
#

No

bitter topaz
#

but lets say you have the 2, large jumps. you get a nigh instant burst of momentum that allows you to get to the gap in time, and your no-hit is saved

bitter drift
#

yes

fervent zealot
#

nope

bitter topaz
#

you used too, can't anymore

fervent zealot
#

^

ashen warren
#

Dude it changed

bitter drift
#

ho

bitter topaz
#

that was changed quite a while ago

ashen warren
#

:/

bitter topaz
#

2 x read wiki combo? HDfailure

ashen warren
#

Intentional

bitter topaz
#

plague doesn't spread though, according to the page atleast

ashen warren
#

Yeah it doesnt

bitter topaz
#

it'd be neat for it be an actual plague

bitter drift
#

@ashen warren mabye lets combined the ideas have my idea makeable and then it will be a crafting meterial for your idea with moon bars

ashen warren
#

Luminite you mean?

bitter drift
#

yes

ashen warren
#

Hmm

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Ok I’ve been on mobile too fucking long

bitter drift
#

you are saying that you were on the phone this intire time

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don't you have a computer

ashen warren
#

I have a computer

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I’m firing it up right now

bitter drift
#

ho when you are back tell me what you are saying about the idea of my idea being a meterial for yours and it being just post moon lord

ashen warren
#

Material

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And Lemme see if I can develop it and flesh it out for you

bitter drift
#

you can

ashen warren
#

I’m allowed?

bitter drift
#

yes

ashen warren
#

Ok

bitter drift
#

i'm no good at programing and staff like that i'm good at gaming

ashen warren
#

I’m not a programmer. I’m a spriter

vague olive
#

@austere orchid thats not a suggestion its a bug

bitter drift
#

then why i didn't see you when i was making my horror full tears of heaven sprite

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and @vague olive he was joking

ashen warren
#

I wasn’t around most likely

austere orchid
vague olive
#

No joke suggestions then EthanJudge

ashen warren
#

Computer: ACTIVE

ruby cobalt
#

hewlp, I am nawt good at comptor

ashen warren
#

WoT: N/A

quasi fable
#

I know a little computer stuff

ashen warren
#

SMH

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@bitter drift Hello?

bitter drift
#

yes

ashen warren
#

Ok you alive

#

?

bitter drift
#

emm are we gonna continue @ashen warren

tired haven
#

Mfw my wish to expand balloons accs tree is not discontinued

ruby cobalt
#

EXPAND

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BALLOON

flat scarab
#

why dosen't any suggestion have any stars?

bitter topaz
#

because no cool dudes have starred them yet

flat scarab
#

un cool dudes

bitter topaz
#

also, why are you a bootleg zach? HDhurdur

bitter drift
#

welcome to my life

flat scarab
#

hey hey Zach does not have a trademark on his name

bitter topaz
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it's a role, and fab restricted it to people with that role or similar roles

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and also, yes zach does has a copyright

dense girder
#

what

bitter topaz
#

it's Vorer of the Universe, Zachary HDhurdur

flat scarab
#

oh crap, now my life can be sued

bitter drift
#

good night i'm going to sleep

flat scarab
#

at 3:47 pm?

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timezones are wierd

bitter drift
#

for me it's 11:47

#

pm

ashen warren
#

@bitter drift My computer is being used for other purposes at the moment so I can’t continue

lucid marsh
#

That’s a really good idea but I would count the attacks as true damage

ashen warren
#

^

delicate raft
#

Yo

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So, according to the new lore, Crabulon is just a dead piece of meat?

rugged acorn
#

literal zombie shroom

delicate raft
#

New suggestion incoming

lucid marsh
#

@calm temple the last 2 hp upgrades require post moonlord materials, your argument is invalid

hollow shell
#

and with Blood Orange and Miracle Fruit, your max life is only 550 for Golem

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@west prairie ssssshhhhh
don't tell them

west prairie
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Boo

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I like the mod to have a unified feel, tyvm

hollow shell
#

I like the lower Abyss to have fitting music

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"void" ain't fitting on its own

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and we sure as hell aren't gonna put in "Threats of the Ocean Floor" because that'd work terribly in-game

west prairie
#

Threats of the Ocean Floor: theme of Zerg potion

rugged acorn
#

I think what he means by 700 hp is with lifeforce or cadence

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which even then

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you SHOULD have a lot of HP..

hollow shell
#

Yeah its a potion
its temporary

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also I don't think Cadance and Lifeforce even stack

rugged acorn
#

admittedly it's still not even much for rev/death

cyan lagoon
#

Just have void crafted with post plant materials and threats of the ocean floor crafted with post polter materials

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Simple

rugged acorn
#

obligatory ISAAC here

heady comet
#

If its not released yet you shouldnt suggest anything related to it

calm temple
#

with lifeforce, cadence, rose stone and reaver armour, I got 740.

hollow shell
#

nice

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btw @left gull a bit late, but
try to keep your whole suggestion in one message, so that it's easy to star

#

... do you know how to use the channel, Cogumelo?

left gull
#

yes

cyan lagoon
#

Unfortunately, no

#

but that'd be great qol

ancient dragon
#

Any reason for the denial?

cyan lagoon
#

not really denying it

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but i dont think they'll accept it

ancient dragon
#

Wording sounds like you're denying it yourself. Anyways, it sounds like a pretty good idea so I personally see no reason for it to get shut down.

heady comet
#

Animating swords doesnt work ingamethonk

ashen warren
#

@shut tide multiplayer stuff is buggy as all fuck

ashen warren
#

@little jolt nope

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They have been tied to Golem, so they will always be tied to Golem

deft jasper
#

lmao some of the suggestions

little jolt
#

but why

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the last updates have been dedicated to freeing up progression paths

deft jasper
#

just because you cant beat golem doesnt mean the mod has to be changed

little jolt
#

you're missing the point

deft jasper
#

get good at the game before suggesting things

little jolt
#

i can beat golem

ashen warren
#

Because that then makes the Jungle Temple more useless than Green Slimes

ancient dragon
#

Temple's already useless.

little jolt
#

^

ashen warren
#

WHO CARES IF YOU CANT BEAT GOLEM

lucid marsh
#

Golem is technically useless too since eidolist exists

ashen warren
#

Not Our fault

lucid marsh
#

And eidolon tablet

little jolt
ancient dragon
#

Also, using 'get good' as an argument for going further with the progression changes already being made is downright braindead.

little jolt
#

^^

gilded surge
#

Golem is a bad boss in general

lucid marsh
#

That is true

deft jasper
#

why are we even arguing

gilded surge
#

Idk

deft jasper
#

theres no way that suggestion will reach 36 stars

lucid marsh
#

Maybe calamity can revamp some vanilla bosses (golem) and make them good

gilded surge
#

YES

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pls

deft jasper
#

no

ancient dragon
#

It reaching the necessary amount of stars doesn't even matter. You're shutting the suggestion down just because you think the other person is bad at the game and they should become better even though that doesn't tie into the fuckin' thing at all.

deft jasper
#

well i mean

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if you want it to be accepted

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it kinda does

gilded surge
#

and also the celestial towers should have their own calamity drops, kinda like how the nebula tower drops meld blobs

little jolt
#

seriously it makes no sense that you think "uwu you can't beat golem stfu and stop making shit suggestions" when cultist was already changed to not be locked behind golem

deft jasper
#

cultist matters more than pbg and ravager

ancient dragon
#

...What?

little jolt
#

a boss' perceived worth shouldn't determine how accessible it is

ancient dragon
#

Calamity's been pretty consistent with the progression changes. Why is this one invalid because Cultist's more important?

little jolt
#

^

deft jasper
#

ask the devs

ancient dragon
#

Are you answering for them? Is this their position?

deft jasper
#

no

ancient dragon
#

Then why did you direct us to them?

sleek wigeon
#

if you dont need to go to the temple to fight golem

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whats the point of the temple?

little jolt
#

temple is pretty useless either way

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all you go there to do is fight golem and get bricks if you want ravager

sleek wigeon
#

yeah so dont hecking remove its SINGULAR PURPOSE

ancient dragon
#

Yeah. Just remove it altogether. slobbyjoy

little jolt
#

yeah but the singular purpose sucks anyway

sleek wigeon
#

dont remove purpose from things already next to useless

little jolt
#

you beat plantera and then you have to go and locate the temple if you haven't already just to fight this one boss in order to get access to two more

sleek wigeon
#

otherwise its wasted space

little jolt
#

you do have a point though

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it would be wasted yeah

ancient dragon
#

Also, 'if you don't need to kill any hm boss to fight the Cultist, what's the point of hm bosses?'.

little jolt
#

since yharim's palace of sorts is the jungle temple then maybe shit should be added there

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anyway if that happens then i guess removing golem from the temple would be a bad call

sleek wigeon
#

the point is progression and shit. whats the point of prehm bosses if you can fight wof right away?

little jolt
#

the more bosses in the way of WoF/ML the easier it is

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you choose how you want to play

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that's the beauty of it

sleek wigeon
#

and golem as a gate keeper makes a crapton of sense, being an easy boss normally

little jolt
#

okay but why put a gatekeeper right after a gatekeeper

sleek wigeon
#

plantera is a gatekeeper of only the dungeon

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nothing else anymore iirc

little jolt
#

perennial ore spawning

sleek wigeon
#

psssshhhh, just skip to choatic

little jolt
#

i guess

ancient dragon
#

Well, if you don't want to downright inutilize Golem, just provide a harder alternative like Clonelamitas is (an alternative, being harder is debatable) to Plantera.

deft jasper
#

shame that boss suggestions arent allowed

ancient dragon
#

Oh hey, you're back. You also haven't addressed my question yet.

#

And if you aren't going to, I would at least like to know why you don't think the suggestion should even be taken into consideration.

deft jasper
#

because not enough people give a shit about it to star it

ancient dragon
#

Should, not would.

deft jasper
#

because it isnt needed

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if you cant kill golem with plantera gear you got an issue

ancient dragon
#

Because the Temple has amazing, flawless gen coding.

deft jasper
#

doesnt mean you cant kill golem

little jolt
#

you're looking at it wrong

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i'm not saying that shit shouldn't be locked behind golem because i can't kill him or whatever

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i'm saying shit shouldn't be locked behind him because you should be able to access most bosses in order to do whatever you want

ancient dragon
deft jasper
#

make a new world

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kill golem there

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get the picksaw

ancient dragon
#

Brilliant argument.

deft jasper
#

kill golem in your world

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done

ancient dragon
#

And so am I, at trying to change such a stubborn person's point of view.

deft jasper
#

lmao

#

im the stubborn one

#

sure

ancient dragon
#

Be honest, we've both dug ourselves in the sand and refuse to move.

deft jasper
#

eh

#

not really

ancient dragon
#

This isn't going anywhere. You ain't budgin', neither am I. I'd rather stop before I get yelled at.

deft jasper
#

because i gave you a perfectly good solution to your issue

ancient dragon
#

The issue that you've given to me, yourself. Having the suggestion actually be accepted would be much better than having to circumvent bad worldgen with another world.

zinc lantern
#

rod of discord?

ancient dragon
#

Not the point I was making.

zinc lantern
#

mhm..

deft jasper
#

picksaw from another world?

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easy solution

#

takes 5 minutes

ancient dragon
#

Being able to fight Golem anywhere takes less than that, and not a lot of time to code.

deft jasper
#

just because you have to spend time to fix an issue doesnt mean it should be changed completely

#

and cant you craft an old power cell?

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i think

ancient dragon
#

It has to be used in the Temple.

deft jasper
#

right

#

im used to fargo

#

speaking of which

#

just get fargos

ancient dragon
#

I'd love to continue this discussion so you don't immediately go 'oh you're pussying out', but not here.

zinc lantern
#

i feel like you should have to fight golem in the temple. that's the whole point of the fight. you get to the end of the temple and fight him..

neon panther
#

so uh whats the argument?

#

dont want to re-start it, i just want to know whats going on

deft jasper
#

he cant beat golem apparently

ancient dragon
#

What?

deft jasper
#

and wants progression to be changed

ashen warren
#

If you remove the temple limitation you can do a whole lot more with the boss fight.

ancient dragon
#

What the actual fuck are you on about?

little jolt
#

haha what

#

you need to stop latching on GIT GUD AND JUST BEAT GOLEM

ancient dragon
#

And if you want to go the route of limiting your arena, we already have examples with SCal.

ashen warren
#

that accessory is pretty good ...

#

golem isn't exactly hard just use a homing weapon, build blocks to lock him in place and just dodge his head

little jolt
#

yeah i know golem is easy

#

i can beat golem that isn't the point of my suggestion

ancient dragon
#

You're latching onto the argument that no one is making.

deft jasper
#

then kill him

#

jesus christ

little jolt
#

okay i'll try to explain myself some more

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since the last few updates have been dedicated to opening up progression, i suggested something that opens up progression

quiet abyss
#

@sly mauve Pretty cool accessory and mount.
How would it be obtained tho? Rare drops from Eidolist or Crafted?

ashen warren
#

Golem is supposed to be one of the few mandatory bosses tho

ancient dragon
#

But it's not.

deft jasper
#

but it is

#

with this sense

#

ml should be skippable

#

but it isnt

zinc lantern
#

golem.. isnt mandatory?

little jolt
#

^

deft jasper
#

neither is pbg

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or ravager

little jolt
#

yeah none of them are mandatory

zinc lantern
#

all calamity bosses are not mandatory till post ml TECHINCALLY

ancient dragon
#

WoF is mandatory because it triggers hardmode. ML is mandatory because it triggers post-ML.
Golem is only mandatory in vanilla because it spawns the Cultists.

#

Eidolon Tablet circumvents that.

deft jasper
#

then it doesnt matter if you cant skip him

ashen warren
#

oh, my bad

#

I forgot about that

little jolt
#

what i'm saying is that optional bosses shouldn't be locked behind an optional boss

shrewd eagle
#

pbg, ravager, calamitas, astralgel, astreum, these are bosses that are not mandatory, golem is needed to be killed to progress into the celestial event

ancient dragon
#

IT'S NOT.

ashen warren
#

Eidolon Tablet lets you summon Lunatic Cultist

little jolt
#

eidolon tablet, golem is no longer mandatory

shrewd eagle
#

oh, i see, dorp

little jolt
#

okay i think i've come up with an analogy that illustrates my point

shrewd eagle
#

but people want to still kill golem, becuz

ancient dragon
#

Puppey, please. I'm not being able to even tackle your point because I can't fathom what it is in the first place.
Explain your point clearly.

little jolt
#

PBG and rav shouldn't be locked behind golem anymore because HVM isn't locked behind EoW

deft jasper
#

no

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because you wont give a shit

zinc lantern
#

we should just be able to mine lizhard blocks after plantera/calamitas is defeated..

ancient dragon
#

I do, though. I absolutely do. I want to understand your claim so I can properly refute it without misinterpreting it.

little jolt
#

yeah i agree with that

deft jasper
#

in that case, you'll never be able to rebuttal

sly mauve
#

@quiet abyss my thoughts is that you use the lunatic cultist boss spawner to craft it, maybe have it as post-plantera?

#

thanks for noticing!

little jolt
#

eow is an optional boss that you don't need to kill if you want to fight WoF and HVM isn't locked behind it anymore so the player can choose what paths they want to take when they're playing

ancient dragon
#

You're not in the position to make that statement if you haven't even told me. Don't act like you know better.

ashen warren
#

you can actuate lihzahrd bricks after plantera which is basically the same thing

ancient dragon
#

I've tried, you can't.

quiet abyss
#

@sly mauve Yeah, that could work.
And I think it's a pretty nice acc/mount. Granted, maybe you don't have to put stats there cause Fab decides the stats anwyay, but I do like the ideas a lot

little jolt
#

golem is an optional boss that you don't need to kill if you want to fight ML and (i think) PB/RAV shouldn't be locked behind it anymore so the player can choose what paths they want to take when they're playing

sly mauve
#

yea @quiet abyss, I'm currently figuring out how this server works, just joined a fe hours ago when I was at work

deft jasper
#

still never gonna get 36 stars though @little jolt

sly mauve
#

thank you!!

quiet abyss
#

Welcome to the server then, chaos šŸ˜‰

deft jasper
#

@sly mauve welcome

ancient dragon
#

Stop being so condescending about every single one of your claims, Jesus fuckin' Christ.

sly mauve
#

awww I feel special! thanks guys!!

deft jasper
#

np

little jolt
#

yeah, welcome

zinc lantern
#

imma post a suggestion real quick

ashen warren
#

Does PB mean Plaguebringer Goliath?

sly mauve
#

how do the stars work..?

little jolt
#

yes

deft jasper
#

@ancient dragon why should i listen to you

#

@sly mauve if you get 36 stars its sent to the devs

sly mauve
#

ooooh how do you add stars??

deft jasper
#

bot does it

#

or a mod

quiet abyss
#

@sly mauve A person with cool dude role will have to star it first before everyone else can star it

deft jasper
#

you cant star your own suggestion though

#

thats against the rules

sly mauve
#

that's okay, just wanna know

#

thank you!

deft jasper
#

np

ashen warren
#

honestly what's the point of skipping a boss?

sly mauve
#

better loot?

deft jasper
#

dont

#

start

#

again

sly mauve
#

lmfao

little jolt
#

so you can pick the way you want to play etc etc etc

sly mauve
#

@deft jasper has seen some stuff

deft jasper
#

@little jolt aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

for fuck sake

little jolt
#

i was just answering his question lel

deft jasper
#

@zinc lantern how the fuck are profaned enemies linked to the jungle

ashen warren
#

It's a hornet so jungle :3

zinc lantern
#

idk i wanted to just create a new enemy chill

ancient dragon
#

Well that was a good conversation. lel

zinc lantern
#

why are suggestions taking so long to get starred..

neon panther
#

cool dudes arent online

#

or are currently doing something else

#

rover is normally the one to star everything, and i dont think hes on rn

#

they'll get starred eventually

sly mauve
#

Saaaaaaaad!

#

So who all saw mine? Any thoughts or criticisms?

#

Oh he added the stars

#

If you guys wouldn’t mind, please take a look at my suggestion!

elder sparrow
#

storm surge suggestion at 29 buried in there HDhurdur

zinc lantern
#

i gotchu dude

sudden quail
#

Wall of Text inc

neon panther
#

Guide was slain... Wall of Text has awoken!

sudden quail
#

Trying to think of another Age of Empires II unit to add to Calamity rn

quasi fable
#

@sudden quail wololo guy

#

Mind controls your minions

paper wagon
#

That's just pure anti-summoner :p

sinful violet
#

@neon panther That was a mistake iirc. I'll ask if they'll remember to switch the sprites.

neon panther
#

Aight. Also I don’t even know if it’s bugged in-game, but according to the wiki the one with the orb is the normal one

sinful violet
#

Wiki has to stick with ingame stuff

#

So it might be a mistake, but I've asked.

heady comet
#

No memes

ashen warren
#

tf is a plug walk

hollow shell
#

@wheat cedar what

odd terrace
#

@ancient dragon You can't toggle the actuator with an Actuation Rod, but you can use a wired trigger.

ancient dragon
#

Huh, I see.

odd terrace
#

Yeah, I just tried yesterday

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I didn't have much of a choice

#

If you see the pic I sent slobbyjoy

vague olive
#

@wheat cedar explain please

odd terrace
#

@hollow shell @vague olive Yet you both already starred it thonk

quiet abyss
vague olive
#

Bitch no I didnt

#

You can check reactions

quiet abyss
#

armv7 starred his own post

#

lmfao

hollow shell
#

I have to star posts

vague olive
#

^

quiet abyss
#

^

quasi fable
#

Imo just make it okay to star your own post

#

Better for everyonr

ashen warren
#

raise star limit to 36

quasi fable
#

Raise it to 40

hollow shell
#

You can totally star your own post
Cuz then I can remove my star and bring it back to 1

sinful violet
#

Or I could just delete that one unless he decides to fucking edit it to make sense

vague olive
ashen warren
#

@grave valley earth is a dev weapon ...

#

and also true melee

sleek wigeon
#

its not anticlimatic at all

#

you've built up this item all the way to the fucking post game

#

hows that anitclimatic?

grave valley
#

Earth is the most powerful mĆŖlĆ©e in the game isn’t it?

sleek wigeon
#

because its a goddamn dev weapon

grave valley
#

idk the satisfaction for me in having a drop weapon do more damage than a crafted one with such a large tree feels weird.

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Granted though, I doubt that any sort of upgrade to exoblade or ark will not really be fair at all until more content exists. Just a thought.

ashen warren
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earth has and always will be uncontrollaby overpowered at the cost of range

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almost all true melee weapons are like that

grave valley
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Hmm.. Perhaps ill test some more. Again, it just feels weird to me.

ashen warren
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earth having 10 million dps is pretty crazy

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but yet again

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its a pretty hefty cost of having no range

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earth is post-game too so it doesnt really matter how stupid good it is

grave valley
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I mean is calamity mod team planing on adding any more bosses?

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I can’t blame them if they dont because its a fucking huge mod but if they do, eventually all this stuff will be just more gear.

ashen warren
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they're adding draedon, yharim, goozma, and a secret boss

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goozma and the secret one will be superbosses

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draedon and yharim will be part of the progression

grave valley
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in which case earth might be a bit op at that point.

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which can be patches

bitter topaz
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earth will probably get nerfed then.

grave valley
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*patched

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Exactly

ashen warren
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most bosses will do a fuck ton of contact damage

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so earth might not be smart

grave valley
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30mil dps is a lot of reward.

ashen warren
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invincibility phases exist

grave valley
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in which case you don’t need to be close anyways

ashen warren
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either scal will drop a new material instead of calamitous essence

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or they will become normal weapons

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second option is very unlikely

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they will probably be buffed and goozma will drop calamitous essence

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or something else that has the same function

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maybe ?

bitter topaz
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no they'll be nerfed iirc

ancient dragon
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Reminder that SCal is currently the hardest boss in the mod, and thus locks dev items behind herself.

ashen warren
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purified jam

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@quasi fable

quasi fable
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Right

ancient dragon
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Dev items are a reward for beating the mod, which currently only reaches up to SCal.

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They will be adjusted according to the new bosses, that much is blatantly obvious.

ashen warren
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thats what i meant

grave valley
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man, idk. I dont really claim to have the answer, because I all in all am still new. I just want to have some absurd crafting trees with insane weapons at the end.

ancient dragon
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Exoblade is enough. Yharon is technically where the game even ends, SCal is a superboss.

grave valley
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since the drop weapons being the best felt like a bit of a let down

ashen warren
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FaRgO's Is ThE mOd FoR yOu

grave valley
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fargos?

ancient dragon
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Fargo's mod.

grave valley
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link?

ashen warren
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absurd crafting trees

ancient dragon
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It's in the Browser.

ashen warren
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and overpowered stuff

grave valley
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and no, super boss is included

ashen warren
grave valley
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Which means its part of the progression

ashen warren
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its not though

grave valley
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What kind of self respecting person stops before the SUPER BOSS

ashen warren
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superboss is post progression

grave valley
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the boss after which the mod is named

ashen warren
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you dont have to do scal as of the current version

grave valley
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And you dont do it

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What

ancient dragon
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Superbosses are excluded by definition. They're meant to be nearly-impossible challenges for only but the most masochistic.

ashen warren
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^

ancient dragon
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Go look up Ozma from Final Fantasy to have an understanding of what a superboss actually is.

grave valley
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If you’ve gotten all of the bosses down

ashen warren
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andddd i have to no hit her .

grave valley
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Its PERSONAL

ancient dragon
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SCal is meant to be difficult even if you've already beaten the main game. She's not obligatory by any means.

grave valley
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also umm... Hmm

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Do the weapons in final fantasy 7 count?

ashen warren
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@wheat cedar what is the point of writing that

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at all

ancient dragon
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You can walk away with your head high in pride after beating Yharon at this point in time.

ashen warren
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yuy

grave valley
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no you can’t lol

ashen warren
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yes you can ?

ancient dragon
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Yes, you can.

grave valley
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I mean

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You can

ashen warren
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yharon is not an easy boss by any means

grave valley
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But the mod has more

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Imo if its there

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And its possible

ancient dragon
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You really refuse to understand what a superboss is meant to be, huh?

grave valley
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Its progression.

ashen warren
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supreme calamitas is not supposed to be a fair fight for the average player

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you're supposed to die to her

grave valley
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but its possible

ashen warren
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its not supposed to be heckin easy af for a "final boss"

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i said the heck word too much

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whoops

grave valley
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Perhaps the disagreement comes from what I think a final boss should be

ashen warren
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hey whats armv7 doing

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i have no idea

grave valley
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Imo, a final boss SHOULD be that hard

ashen warren
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yharon is the final boss

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not scal

grave valley
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Otherwise whats the point