suggestions-discussion

[quiet abyss]

No matter if I regret it or not, there's no turning back now.

[quasi fable]

😱😱😱😱

[dense girder]

what's a dead inside weapon

[quiet abyss]

Dead Insides can claim one item that they suggested as their "Dead Inside item"
Fab said that these items will have a ton more chances of getting in than others, but each Dead Inside can only claim one item.
Same goes for Untouchable, but the chance of getting in is less likely than Dead Inside

I have essentially used mine

[dense girder]

you can still just edit the Dead Inside part out if you don't want it

also that's not fair we should all be treated equally, not have better/worse chances based on our roles

[quiet abyss]

To be fair, getting Dead inside is...well

[dense girder]

yeah hard but still

[vague olive]

Dead insudes put weeks into getting dead inside

[quiet abyss]

Or maybe the idea got abandoned, idk

You mean atleast one month

[vague olive]

An item is the least they could get back

[quiet abyss]

2 months and a half for me

[dense girder]

not worth it at all

[vague olive]

Do you want it to be worth it or do you want everyone to be equal regardless

[dense girder]

Equality is key and I just realised I sound like a communist

[ashen warren]

@eager ivy I expanded your suggestion

[vague olive]

Can you guys stop rephrasing/expanding a suggestion and just tell the original person to edit theirs

[quiet abyss]

I'm still not entirely sure how we give Fab our "Dead Inside items"
Either I just suggest it like normal, and says its my dead inside item, or I DM fab.
Too bad there's no info on how this "reward" works

[dense girder]

what do we do with suggestions that reached 35+ stars prior to the bot dying?

I would forward it to a dev but not sure that'd work

I would to a mod but I'm scared

I would to Fabsol but I'm plain terrified of the consequences if he deems it unnecessary to DM him

[vague olive]

Forgetting the suggestion slave exists

[dense girder]

prior to the bot dying you nonce

meaning it won't be sent regardless by it

[vague olive]

@dull kite this is so sad

[dense girder]

stop hurting my feelings and help

[vague olive]

Evan is logging them in a doc

[dense girder]

oh thanks

[dull kite]

I’m sad

I’m not even appreciated for my labour

[tired haven]

Is there open for mass media version of that doc so I could read that and appreciate all your duty?

[dull kite]

no mine

[dense girder]

Crab is definitely going to erase all suggestions except his from it

[quiet abyss]

Not if Evan set it to "view only"

[dense girder]

Oh dear google docs

[tired haven]

Lol I'd erase mine first because it's stupid

[dense girder]

Come back when you use a good software app like Word pls

[ashen warren]

@quiet abyss I recommend asking Synglin about Award items

[vague olive]

Ew microsoft

[tired haven]

Something something google docs is microsoft office but online

[vague olive]

And free

[dense girder]

This argument, Docs v Office, is normally what gets me into the worst trouble so I'll avoid it

[vague olive]

No paying for microsoft office bullshit

[tired haven]

Wait, it isn't free? Woh

Never payed for it in my life and using it

[dense girder]

It is if your school pays for it

[tired haven]

Ehhh.. Sure my school pays for it on my personal pc and laptop

personal pc

[dense girder]

I can only use Word on my old school laptop from mid 20fucking10

[round falcon]

jumped out of bed today

saw 51 ⭐s

thanks yall

[dense girder]

I get the feeling Zach is lashing out at #suggestions-voting because he died in his current playthrough from those shitty weaps

[steep island]

No

Its just like

post plantera really short true melee weapons yes very good weapons

[ruby cobalt]

pre-plantera not-so-true-melee weapons very good weapons

post-plantera tho

[cyan moth]

who uses astral items anyway tbh

[ruby cobalt]

nobody

[dense girder]

Astral Staff is useful though

[ruby cobalt]

because they suck

make them suck less so people use them

[dense girder]

Astral Staff is useful up until like Polterghast

[ashen warren]

Wow

[quasi fable]

Ra

Not rah

😤

[ashen warren]

Fuck

Fixed it

How’s the suggestion? Bad, good, eh

[quasi fable]

Idk

Dont know the dsrksun ring

Never beaten yharon

[dull kite]

Why does it say death

Oh nvm

I dumb

[ashen warren]

:/\

It’s after Yharon is killed second phased

[ruby cobalt]

change it to something less ambigious pls

[ashen warren]

Like, less desires?

[ruby cobalt]

no

post-yharon (fully defeated) or something

[ashen warren]

Ohhhhhh

[ruby cobalt]

because my first thought was "is this a death drop, are you that dumb"

then I realized it

or just completely remove that part because it has auric ore in recipe

[austere orchid]

@ashen warren
I think this might be worse, but perhaps "The Eclipse's Guard"
i mean it IS related to the Solar Eclipse, also there is enough with "Solar" in it.

[ashen warren]

Ra is he Egyptian God of Sun

[ruby cobalt]

ye, that works

[ashen warren]

And the Asgard’s Valor was made with the Ankh Sheild, an Egyptian Symbol of Life

[austere orchid]

Yea i know that, darksun is a solar eclipse.
Which the only sun is a "ring"(i suppose?)

Fair point.

s t i l l.
i did say it could be worse, but that's not up to me.

[ashen warren]

Why did Fab choose to change theme from Egyptian to Norse?

[quasi fable]

Asgards valour seems to imply nordic myth though

Yesh idk

[ashen warren]

It’s weird and this is my attempt to reflect on its original state

[dense girder]

Next he'll be going for the American gods

[ashen warren]

XD

[quasi fable]

What american gods

[ashen warren]

LOL

[dense girder]

shit right sorry

[ashen warren]

Oof

[quasi fable]

Jesus is a jew frrom the middle east yet far right americans love him

[austere orchid]

Greek Gods tbh COUGH the planets

[quasi fable]

Okay not a good topic

[ruby cobalt]

zodiac item when

[dense girder]

Teutonic gods

[ruby cobalt]

made from various drops from astral biome

[austere orchid]

Starsign smh.

[quasi fable]

@austere orchid thats the roman reskins

[austere orchid]

i want my pisces starsign xd

u wot

[dense girder]

What if there's an event with the Zodiac Killer as the main boss

fuck that's dumb nvm

[austere orchid]

i am pretty damn sure they are not, and in fact it's the other way around.

[quasi fable]

@austere orchid romans renamed the greek gods

[ashen warren]

Yes

[dense girder]

#general-talk fucking now

[austere orchid]

stop the fucking pings

[ashen warren]

Wait

[quasi fable]

Zeus>jupiter and stuff

[ashen warren]

This started with Egyptian and Norse

[austere orchid]

then why Reskins

[dense girder]

GO TO #general-talk

[ashen warren]

How the hell did it become Greek?

[dense girder]

Imitable general

[austere orchid]

oi

[ashen warren]

Lol

[austere orchid]

minimod not allowed

[ashen warren]

Anyways

[dense girder]

Buff rotten eggs

[ashen warren]

I got a star

:3

[dense girder]

Cool

[quasi fable]

Idk

[ashen warren]

[quasi fable]

I dont kniw the guy who took care of the sun in norse myth

Embarassing maybe

[ashen warren]

Eh

Probably Odin

[quasi fable]

Nope

[dense girder]

I have a book full of norse gods because I am scandinavian, let me help you out

I'll find it

[ashen warren]

Okek

Thank

[dense girder]

I realised that's dumb

Also I looked up "norse god sun" and they're called Sol

wow books are useless

[quasi fable]

Ehhh

[ashen warren]

[quasi fable]

Really?

Sounds not familliar

[dense girder]

Thanks to books we have the harry potter community

[austere orchid]

wtf

[ashen warren]

Lol

[dense girder]

jk don't kill me with your avarda kedavara

[quasi fable]

Huh it wad sol

Not a god though

[ashen warren]

Ra sounds more badass and more Return of the Mummy

[quasi fable]

Mummy!

Im getting bullied 😢

[ashen warren]

XD

[dense girder]

why do you two exist

why do all three of us exist

we should just ascend to heaven on these fools

[ashen warren]

True

[muted birch]

Would it be a UI element? @spiral olive

[spiral olive]

yeah something similar to boss healthbar

like a small bar at the bottom counting down how many phantom spirits are left

just for convienice

[muted birch]

I might clutter the screen a bit

Maybe a text alert whenever a certain mark is reached

Like at 10 and 5

@dense girder Summoner's association has something for that if you want

[heady ice]

I do feel like Cryogen's HP is too high for being the first Calamity boss post-WoF.

[ashen warren]

Because it has a very simple attack pattern?

[heady ice]

36,000 in Expert Mode does seem a bit high, especially as WoF only has 12K.

[ashen warren]

have you checked mech trio health pools

[hazy glacier]

It’s not meant to be easy anyway

[ancient dragon]

Add a counter for all the counter suggestions.

[ashen warren]

Yes

What

WHO CAME UP WITH THE INGENIOUS SUGGESTION

[dense girder]

what suggestion?

[ashen warren]

Revengance Rarity

[dense girder]

dankshamwow

their name is right there

[ashen warren]

I know

[dense girder]

cool

[quiet abyss]

🤦 that suggestion....

[ashen warren]

They already have special rarities

[sudden quail]

Better suggestion for the Phantom Spirit counter: Add banners for Calamity enemies so that the Tally Counter works on them.

[ashen warren]

Yes

[dense girder]

@paper wagon It's because they have a custom tier not recognized by the base game, so it automatically classifies them by the vanilla base tier, which is white aka burnable in lava. I think. It's complicated.

[bitter topaz]

they already have a custom rarity, they're just displayed with a normal one for clarity's sake

[paper wagon]

Yeah I understand that. Just if it can be fixed, that's all.

[dense girder]

drops exoblade in lava

[cunning moss]

Exoblade doesn't melt in lava

[paper wagon]

Unmodified?

[cunning moss]

Or at least that's what I think...

[opal barn]

It does afaik

[cunning moss]

@opal barn oh. Kinda wierd.

[vague olive]

Scourge is hot but what does that have to do with anything

[dense girder]

cool

[toxic pagoda]

?

[bitter topaz]

that suggestion wouldn't work, due to the fact Scal is on yharim's side, not against him.

[muted birch]

I thought she was like enslaved or something

[bitter topaz]

cursed, but said curse binds her to eternal loyalty unti Yharim's demise iirc

[muted birch]

Well I mean if she dies it can be broken?

Idk

[paper wagon]

No, Yharim removed the curse after Cal camr back

[bitter topaz]

wut? in lore she's affected by the curse when you fight Scal

[muted birch]

Its in her lore that it is removed

[bitter topaz]

the clone is simply made by her to test the players' strength iirc

oof i need to red-read it then if so

[muted birch]

"Yharim has since removed the curse in exchange for her infallible servitude and unimaginable cruelty towards his opponents."

[bitter topaz]

so i was remembering it somewhat right then

but not entirely

[muted birch]

It doesnt say her slavery is magically enforced

So this could be possible

[toxic pagoda]

I KNOW WHAT TO DO

I know how this can make sense

Yharim has to break the 4th wall

he needs to say "Man, these people really think they can write something down and manipulate me with it (the lore)? BSSSHHHHH"

[austere orchid]

SMH i could be an ASS and compare that to Undertale

[toxic pagoda]

lol

[dense girder]

500 platinum

uh

per eye...

[round falcon]

i would assume it would be a one-time option

kind of like turning a quest in for the angler

but since when has anybody needed money in calamity after moonlord

[muted birch]

Post moonlord luminite grinding?

Gotta buy that sigil

[austere orchid]

Fargos has it's own sigil. (crafted, dunno about selling too)

Except it spawns ML instantly.

[toxic pagoda]

Odditer yeah fair point but there would have o be some sort of thing to make it a one time offer

[ruby cobalt]

celestially sigil is the name for fargo

[bitter topaz]

@ashen warren in here plz

don't anger sarg

anyway, goozma was never a meteor iirc, just an uber-powered slime god

[vague olive]

Is sarg the only mod

[bitter topaz]

sarg is the only mod that exists as far as i'm concerned

[ashen warren]

Abyss Angler Fish
cute? Oh wait never mind
Throw an angler fish that never lets go until the enemy is kill. On Bosses it stays on for 20 seconds

@night cradle this a good idea?

[night cradle]

?

[dense girder]

I think he means as a weapon for your chest

I don't think it is a good idea

[ashen warren]

;-;

[dense girder]

It's just the piranha gun but slightly less bad

[night cradle]

oh wait I get it now

[ashen warren]

Oof

[vague olive]

Why would you do that

[night cradle]

kinda lionfish already does that...

[vague olive]

The same weapon in 2 biome chasts

[ashen warren]

True

Man my mind is numb today

[dense girder]

[vague olive]

I think a throwing weapon is the best choice

[dense girder]

No love for throwing accessories

[left gull]

make the throwing weapon from a desert chest

since that's pretty much the thrower biome

[vague olive]

Desert is a discount biome

[left gull]

and the abyss isn't

[dense girder]

Abyss > desert any day

[vague olive]

Yes

Abyss goes deep

And theres a reason to go there

[left gull]

it makes more sense to make the throwing weapon a desert chest

[night cradle]

why desert scourge would drop desert key thought.
The key dropping is prob mean to be Wall of Flesh - above...

[dense girder]

Abyss is just fucking cool in general because I've been obsessed with the deep sea since I was 3

[ashen warren]

The key would drop from the GSS

[night cradle]

I just thought of Abyss because the Avalon already uses the desert chest.

[ashen warren]

:/\

[dense girder]

Avalon

[night cradle]

okay, *Exxo Avalon.

[ashen warren]

Avalon is not very relevant anymore

[night cradle]

oh.

[west prairie]

Avalon is getting a reboot iirc

[ashen warren]

As well as Tremor

[vague olive]

Plus it makes sense to add a chest for the biome that came with the mod

[dense girder]

[ashen warren]

That means a Profaned Crags and Sulfuric Sea And Astral chest dude

[quasi fable]

Astral chest

[vague olive]

Those are mini biomes

Well until astral gets more stuff

[ashen warren]

Sulfuric Sea isn’t a Mini Boom esmh

[dense girder]

Astral is pretty done and dead as it is

It's a meteor but more gay and rainbow

[vague olive]

Astral is gonna be a spreading biome

[night cradle]

I've never thought of that that way

[dense girder]

IMO to redo the astral biome just have it crash onto a random floating island and turn it into an Astral Island

better 👍

[ashen warren]

That would be cool

[vague olive]

Looking for the island

[dense girder]

doesn't find all islands pre-wof

[ashen warren]

[vague olive]

Walking is more convenient

[dense girder]

what

what does that have to do with the islands

wait i'm confused

can we start over?

[ashen warren]

Yes

[dense girder]

Meteor + Island = Gay Star Island

alternatively

[night cradle]

I had an idea of the moon biome.
just the flat line of blocks

[ashen warren]

I like what Spirit mod did with the Spirit biome spawning chests in biome generation post world creation

[dense girder]

it's one decently sized crater

and several smaller ones of 20-40 ore from chunks that broke off in re-entry

[night cradle]

Spirit spawned my reach in snow biome one time smh

[ashen warren]

Why can’t Calamity just do that?

[vague olive]

Do what

[ashen warren]

I mean the chests bit from Sprit

[vague olive]

[ashen warren]

[vague olive]

For what biome

[ashen warren]

[dense girder]

"The chests bit from Sprit"

[vague olive]

What calamity biome needs generated chests

[night cradle]

gay meteor being spread by a chest

[dense girder]

The calamity biome

[ashen warren]

Lol

[vague olive]

[ashen warren]

Calamity biome is the Crags/Slags

[dense girder]

^

exactly

[vague olive]

Thats

[dense girder]

Another Vilethorn-type weapon 🤤

[ashen warren]

Lol

[dense girder]

Only 2, another would be nuttin' good

[vague olive]

That has chests already and theyre made at world gen

[dense girder]

The Profaned Crags do not have a chest wtf

[night cradle]

they have I think

[vague olive]

Have you been to the crags and mined

[dense girder]

I just remembered

Shoot me

[vague olive]

Theres obsidian rose and other stuff

[dense girder]

I know

[ashen warren]

Lol

[dense girder]

the crags are only good for farming money

pre-prov*

[ashen warren]

Lol

[vague olive]

That dosent sound like much of a throwing weapon @plush gazelle

[dense girder]

It spawns cracks in the direction of your cursor

[ashen warren]

#changelogs tells us What we’ve been waiting for forever now

[vague olive]

Weapons similar to others would be tge same class

[night cradle]

I never did that thought.
I farmed money at hallow where common Scorn Eaters came
They dropped one plat each

[plush gazelle]

maybe it could throw arcd projectiles that leave rifts behind them

[dense girder]

That do throwing dama-- wait no it doesn't

[ashen warren]

I just got fuggin buried

[dense girder]

One plat each, oof

For the time to kill one not worth it

Zerg pot + Crags = a few hundred to a few thousand plat depending on how long you survive

[vague olive]

Can we keep this to discussing suggestions

[ashen warren]

Yes

[dense girder]

Yes

[ashen warren]

Please

[dense girder]

Please

[night cradle]

bruh, I have Cosmic Kunai that tears Scorn Eater apart in seconds.

wait, pre prov...

[ashen warren]

#calamity-mod-talk

gem eral_talk

I do t care

Anyways

[left gull]

there i did it

desert throwing weapon

[ashen warren]

I saved the world

[vague olive]

Thats actually a good weapon

[dense girder]

that + zerg potion = you won't be getting that back

[ashen warren]

Would be hell to code but it’s worth it

[left gull]

i'm pretty sure there are already weapons that function like that

bounces to another enemy

[ashen warren]

Electric types

Should I revive the Fried Pickles

[opal barn]

Why would you

[ashen warren]

Because Fried Pickles are delicious

Plus this mod needs something not overly serious

Cause it’s TOO serious

[left gull]

insert THE LORDE wiki page here

[ashen warren]

Lol

[opal barn]

If you posted it already then you shouldn't again

[ashen warren]

It was before the bot shut down

[opal barn]

So there is no reason to post it

[ashen warren]

Nobody Remembers It

Nobody Remembers Fried Chicken Either

[opal barn]

@dull kite come forth great defender

[ashen warren]

Oof

[dull kite]

WHAT

[ashen warren]

Evan is mad

[opal barn]

There was about to be a repost but I stopped it in your name, sire

[ashen warren]

Wasn’t even gonna be the same suggestion as last time

Just the name would be the same

[dull kite]

Repost? SMH

[ashen warren]

I swear i don’t remember the original stats and I’m not bother to find it

[left gull]

what if new golem drops

[dense girder]

golem's boring

we have a better golem

his name's ravager

[left gull]

yeah but what if cool weapon for golem

[dense girder]

heat ray

[ruby cobalt]

he already had it

too bad it died with leg nerf

[pearl magnet]

I dunno if it was suggested, but an option to toggle the new boss health bars

Some people might just like other moss that do that, such as yet another boss health bar...

[white laurel]

Its going to be added

The healthbars are completely optional

[pearl magnet]

So there will be no way to disable them, every time you'll be playing with calamity, you'll see these new boss health bars, no option to toggle them, right? That sounds pretty evil imo

[white laurel]

the healthbars are completely optional

What did I just say, smh

[pearl magnet]

Just asking another time...

[austere orchid]

big smh

[pearl magnet]

They seem pretty invisible for me to take them as a boss health bar, but not that invisible when having something else...

And looking into a corner instead when being chased by DoG for ex... dunno

[white laurel]

Use a different boss healthbar mod if you dont like them

Or dont have a healthbar atall

[austere orchid]

i would offer a confit to alter the cars position, size, etc.
positioning in the middle might be a problem because the design is meant for the corner.

[ashen warren]

Are we able to adjust the size of the health bars? Or is that not ze case

[ruby cobalt]

unknown

[subtle zinc]

in the shape of yharims insignia?

you want it to return like that

[heady comet]

That kind of crag took a very long time to generate

It was removed for a reason

[muted birch]

It will be missed

[cyan lagoon]

. . .

I have no words for how stupid that suggestion is.

[rugged finch]

My witch doctor died to bumble birb

Does he get that message

[ashen warren]

Oh god

Please add

[inner rover]

hey, you don't need to be like that, I just miss the damn thing

[stoic narwhal]

he's a dog fam lol

he cannot understand much english

[sleek wigeon]

"luminite ore spawns in the world"

but like, wh6y do?

[austere orchid]

The current crags doesn’t fit it’s name.
the current one looks like utter garbage.

It was meant to be with spikes, now that’s something that come out of hell.
You can just remove a large chunk of ash around the damn place if needed.

Taking a while to generate means nothing much, because it had to generate with the old, much bigger music files.
Which are now smaller.

I am sorry, the current Crags looked like someone threw a slime of brimstone, and the shame threw its mass sideways because of impact and solidified.
It’s disgusting.

[sleek wigeon]

also, music files dont do shit in generation

[austere orchid]

I’ve seen the Calamity music files load MUCH faster, and i even triple checked to make sure.
I heavily doubt it.

[inner rover]

ethereal phantom, i agree with you. Such an iconic structure gone to waste for some barren-looking thing...

[sleek wigeon]

not loading in

actual WORLD generation

ya know, when you create a new world?

[austere orchid]

Tch, the abyss takes up more.

Files are Files.

[dense girder]

woah no way

[sleek wigeon]

what?

why are you on about files, files had nothing to do with anything

[dense girder]

I agree with RealEso's suggestion though

[sleek wigeon]

its code that dictates world generation

[dense girder]

luminite spawning 100% yes

[sleek wigeon]

but WHY?

just kill moony, wizard sells sigil for a reason

[dense girder]

because killing moon lord over and over to get the luminite you need early on is a pain in the fucking butt

[sleek wigeon]

So would fucking mining it

[dense girder]

plus he only drops like 10-20 bars worth

[ashen warren]

Every time you kill ML

[inner rover]

once you get the OP items like the Terratomere, farming Luminite shoud be a doozy

[sleek wigeon]

he drops alot more than that, at least in expert mode

[ashen warren]

More luminite spawns

[sleek wigeon]

but theres no point

at that point just have him drop more luminite

[inner rover]

I have no trouble with farming anything really

[dense girder]

I think it should be spawned in the world, not only for convenience but because mining is basically neglected post-ML

[austere orchid]

I’m not going to go further.
But generation time by itself doesn’t matter, find something else to do in the mean time tbh.
And that’s coming from someone’s mouth who barely has anything to do most of each day.

[dense girder]

let's see, uelibloom, auric ore

that's kind of it

it'd be nice to actually have to use the underground for something more than getting souls or essences later on

[inner rover]

, Aero ore spawns upon killing hive mind/ perforator hive

[dense girder]

post-ML

[past cape]

Nah, just have Luminite Golems or Monoliths instead

[ashen warren]

[dense girder]

luminite golem sounds p cool

[inner rover]

and i believe Cryo ore spawns after cryogen is defeated, im not sure. Lemmie look it up

[dense girder]

but where would they spawn?

mischief

post-moon lord

[austere orchid]

GRealm content pfft

[inner rover]

Cryo ore is post moonlord? I would re-think that, because I beat Cryogen PREmoonlord

[dense girder]

for christ sakes

I'm talking about post-ML ORES

[inner rover]

ok

[dense girder]

Cryo ore spawns post-WoF iirc

[inner rover]

what does iirc mean

[dense girder]

if i recall correctly

[inner rover]

k

[ashen warren]

[austere orchid]

Cryonic Ore is Post-Cryogen.

[sleek wigeon]

how would luminite spawning underground not neglect mining? at that point your pickaxe is so strong that mining is a fucking chore

its not interesting in the hecking slightest

you dont spelunk you just bore through everything

which is quite boring

[dense girder]

pun intended?

[sleek wigeon]

(pun intended)

[dense girder]

thank you

anyways I think it's nice to have to dig

I mean sure it's a chore

[west prairie]

It’s strange that luminite doesn’t exist in the world when it drops as an ore tbh

[dense girder]

but it's not hard and it gives you something to do aside from "SHOOT BANG DROPS WOO"

[west prairie]

At that point why wouldn’t it just be a bar

[sleek wigeon]

^

ikr

[dense girder]

^

[inner rover]

i think it is strange that Hallowed bars have no ore at all!

[sleek wigeon]

luminite bricks

i guess

thats a thing, right?

[dense girder]

bigger question: why does ML drop luminite ore

[austere orchid]

Changed to after Cryogen due to the fact Daedalus was just too much pressure on poor Cryogen.

[west prairie]

So it deserves to have some presence in the world as a proper ore

[dense girder]

like where does he keep it and why

[sleek wigeon]

why does eoc drop demonite?

[dense girder]

he's a demon

his core is demonite

gAmE tHeOrY

[austere orchid]

Okay i get distracted way too easily and type slowly.

[sleek wigeon]

well moonlord is a lumin

[austere orchid]

@dense girder damn you

[sleek wigeon]

bam, question answered

[dense girder]

a lumin?

[west prairie]

Luminite is his bone marrow

[sleek wigeon]

he uh, lights things

[dense girder]

But his bones are white

[austere orchid]

Moon Lord is his name.... The Lunar Lord technically

[dense girder]

The Moon Goddess

[west prairie]

Marrow is inside the bone

Dummy

[dense girder]

I know but

wait yeah

hmm

[austere orchid]

Goddess yea no

[dense girder]

plausible

[hybrid notch]

im gonna say it here instead cause its more of a "asthetic" thing. but during the yharim fight scal and draedon sit outside of the arena watching the battle insue

[inner rover]

uh guys, i think we should take this to the #general-talk , we came off topic

[austere orchid]

That’s #general-talk not #off_topic.

[sleek wigeon]

why the fuck would they watch the fight? they arent disloyal .
scal gets cursed again if she doesnt murder yharims enemies and dreadon would be off building weapons or something

[austere orchid]

that’s a joke GODDAMNIt.

[inner rover]

oh ok

[austere orchid]

Also, Yharim wouldn’t know SCal is there unless she uses any kind of magic.
He sensed her through the “Arcane” or some shit.

[dense girder]

what on earth are you talking about

[sleek wigeon]

wtf is the point of hallowed ore post 1 mech boss?

like, you already have enough for everything you'll ever need

[inner rover]

it makes sense for "Hallowed Bars" to have its own ore.

[dense girder]

^

[sleek wigeon]

Not AFTER its already useless

[austere orchid]

Actually i think the problem is.

[sleek wigeon]

because then its fucking inventory spam

[austere orchid]

Bars overrated change pls

[dense girder]

christ why so aggressive

YES, PHANTOM

WE NEED INGOTS

[inner rover]

every other bar aside from shroomite and spectre has ore

[sinful violet]

Hallowed bars are shit anyway

[austere orchid]

Not what i meant
but i will admit i lost my shit to that

[sinful violet]

ya basically only need em for a few misc weapons and xeroc bars

[dense girder]

I just realised

says why so aggressive

[sleek wigeon]

you only really need it for pickaxe axe

[dense girder]

immediately gets aggressive on INGOTS

[austere orchid]

hold on i need to calm down and regain my shit

[sinful violet]

Yes, do so

[dense girder]

Mr. Trump, what do you plan for the continued wellbeing of American citizens who live on welfare? Come with me, reporter. Backstage - Lean in closer. whispers: INGOTS. Thank you, Mr. Trump.

alright memes over let's discuss suggestions

[ashen warren]

Tavernkeep said "moon lord, don't you mean void lord?"

[heady comet]

Spoon lord

[ashen warren]

Yes please

[sinful violet]

I break the next blatantly offtopic post.

[dense girder]

let's make a list of all the calamity bars and see just how many fucking bars there are

[sleek wigeon]

theres uh, always been more bars than bosses

[dense girder]

i mean this isn't offtopic/

?*

[sleek wigeon]

been like that since 1.0

[dense girder]

yeah but calamity goes fucking overboard

[sinful violet]

How does it

[sleek wigeon]

not really?

[austere orchid]

I will list each bar, one, by one, if i have to.

[sleek wigeon]

copper iron silver gold demonite hellstone cobalt mithril adamantite chlorophyte

[dense girder]

perennial, chaotic, cosmilite, shadowspec, astral, bar of life, frigid, meld, cryonic, victide, aerialite, uelibloom

[west prairie]

Victide, aerialite, frigid, cryo, perennial, chaotic, astral, life, meld, uelibloom, cosmilite, shadowspec

[sleek wigeon]

and my list doesnt even include shroomite hallowed or spectre

[dense girder]

xeroc = meld

[austere orchid]

Bars are overrated.
I mean goddamn you’d be better off using Runes or some shit.

[dense girder]

Let's see

[sleek wigeon]

not really

[dense girder]

Cores, Essences, Bars

INGOTS, Runes, Molten ___

[austere orchid]

the only rune thing i know as of now is the Rune Wizard.

[sleek wigeon]

bars make sense for materials

rune of kos

[austere orchid]

My god the ingots

[sleek wigeon]

ingots would creat inconsistency

which is bad

[dense girder]

I will locate Drew and feed him a 12-carat diamond if I don't get myself an Odditarian Ingot

wait that's kinda violent

[rugged finch]

how lovely

[dense girder]

better

hey also auric ore doesn't even have a bar

did drew realise that there were too many

[west prairie]

Shove it up his ass instead, it’s no longer violent, just sexual

[dense girder]

that's worse

and it's offtopic

[austere orchid]

Ore is fine, understandable, there are ones that do not make bars.

[dense girder]

Let's make shit really complicated

Ore > Molten Ore > Cast made with Iron/Lead > Has to cool for 2 hours > 1 bar

[austere orchid]

That’s taking Terraria to the next level.

[west prairie]

Don’t forget hammering

[chrome badger]

That's Tinkerer's mod

[dense girder]

Hammering, must be Platinum/Gold or better

Must be near an anvil to hammer

[west prairie]

Must have a hammer

[dense girder]

Must have materials to make hammer

[austere orchid]

Must not have a shitter wood hammer

[dense girder]

Wood hammer?

Oh boy

[west prairie]

You need a bellows too

And tongs

[dense girder]

Shit's getting complexicated

[austere orchid]

Must not use a Pwnhammer on fucking Luminite.

[west prairie]

And fuel for the fire

[dense girder]

But the fuel runs out every so often

[austere orchid]

Okay i stop here.

[dense girder]

If the fuel is wood, it becomes charred and waste that clutters your world and cannot be used for anything. If it is coal, it causes pollution which affects the weather as well as fishing power and the Sulphurous Seas become more dangerous the more polluted your world is.

[austere orchid]

Too far off topic now wtf

[ancient dragon]

Can I just use you for fuel, Odditer?

[ashen warren]

@inner rover the old crag was good and all , but generation of it was pretty weird

[austere orchid]

Current one is absolute shit without doubt.

[ashen warren]

the old one looked good , thats for sure

[sleek wigeon]

having a good pc doesnt matter in terraria

terraria can only use 2 gbs of memory

at any given time

[ancient dragon]

Do the crags even serve a purpose besides fighting Brimmy and mining an ore that makes a single viable weapon?

[ashen warren]

on my old pc simply turning frame skip off would make my game turn to super slow motion

terraria took up 90% of my memory

[sleek wigeon]

thats generally what it does

[rugged finch]

some chests that i honestly dont know whats inside them

[sleek wigeon]

90% is less than 100%

[ashen warren]

it was still a lot

[alpine copper]

Yeah and when I fought Scal for the first time my game lagged so much i had to turn frame skip to subtle and accept a slow mo battle

That's not how a (currently) final boss is meant to be

[sudden quail]

inb4 zen potions

[fervent zealot]

if scal lags your game to hell you need a computing device better than an eggbeater

[heady comet]

^

[sleek wigeon]

technically speaking , scals not a final boss. Shes a super boss, currently, post progression

though thats changing soon

[austere orchid]

Yharon is the final boss as of now.

[keen comet]

hey not sure if known/intentional but are teleporters meant to be able to work inside scal arena

[fervent zealot]

iirc yes that was a change made to all bosses so they don't disable teles

[keen comet]

because you can completely skip the first phase as a result

and go straight into damage

also i somehow killed scal with lingering attacks after i died skipping the last few invincibility phases

[cyan lagoon]

town npcs are being planned

permafrost being one of them

[alpine copper]

I like to think a npc calamitas is also a possibility

[hollow shell]

ye don't worry @vestal comet, NPCs are well on their way

[subtle zinc]

and amidias i think

[brave warren]

amidias, yharim, fabsol, and permafrost
i believe

[subtle zinc]

fabsol?

[delicate raft]

Wait

[brave warren]

yeah

[delicate raft]

Fab?

lol

[subtle zinc]

and yharim? does he surrender to yyou

[alpine copper]

The idea of an npc that sells demonshade bars or at least calamitous essence is awsome

[rugged finch]

Didnt amidias get burned when calamitas burned the ocean

And die

[subtle zinc]

he got injured

[brave warren]

presumably hid

[subtle zinc]

but lived

[brave warren]

in the abyss mayb

[alpine copper]

Yeah he hid in the bottom of the abyss didn't he

?

[subtle zinc]

oh

he may be bound in the abyss

i can imagine him getting tied in a seaweed or something

that would be funny xD

[alpine copper]

Maybe he will spawn if you kill the eidolon wyrm that spawns if you try to take a breath while in the abyss

[subtle zinc]

or he could spawn post aquatic scourge

you need to beat the aquatic scourge first

[hollow shell]

ech
I assume that a message having 35 stars will just send that message in somewhere

so what do I do for messages that are broken up into multiple?

@restive coral

[proven tide]

Sorry

[hollow shell]

It's good, you're well thought-out, you are

I blame Discord

(if you can merge those messages into one, do so
I assume you didn't because you can't)

[subtle zinc]

are they still adding lore items

[hollow shell]

yes

[proven tide]

It was >2000 characters

;c

[hollow shell]

rip

[proven tide]

I'm going AFK so I won't be able to get involved in any possible discussion of my suggestion not like anyone will care anyway ooof

[restive coral]

those who sent the messages in multiple can deal with what they did because there's a pin instructing them not to

[proven tide]

Fuck

[hollow shell]

oh btw p0rtal's pin needs to be removed

[restive coral]

no, the bot will go down at any moment

[hollow shell]

oh
heck

[restive coral]

to be perfectly honest with everyone, i think I'll just turn off the bot until the library I'm using finally updates

and who knows how long that'll take

[proven tide]

Fuck what do I do

[sudden quail]

Starring that just because of the amount of detail put into it

[proven tide]

I'm on mobile so I can't get a doc to paste it in

[hollow shell]

Why not?

[proven tide]

Google docs is app or nothing on mobile

There's no web version

[hollow shell]

what's wrong with the app

[proven tide]

Wait, hold on, where's the pin saying that it needs to be one message?

[hollow shell]

It does say to be concise
Nothing explicitly about keeping it to one message but have over 2000 characters isn't necessarily concise

[proven tide]

Hmm

Righto, on it

[ashen warren]

that wall of text tho

[proven tide]

Tadah

[thorn canyon]

how do like my idea

[quasi fable]

@calm temple a thing already

[calm temple]

ok

[sinful violet]

@thorn canyon ...So the clothier sells a doll that allows him to be easily killed.

It doesn’t matter too much.

Skeletron hardly drops anything of real use.

[thorn canyon]

that's why i kinda

said just the guide doll

because idk wall of flesh kill does idk

[sinful violet]

Maybe from witch doctor then?

Post WoF?

He seems like an npc to mess with voodoo dolls.

[alpine copper]

@sinful violet I seem like what pal?

[sinful violet]

I... have no words...

rp ain’t for this server

[ancient dragon]

Disgusting.

[dull kite]

Alexis it’s not time to be mean to everyone

also ye witch doctor sounds better

[proven tide]

As far as I know, the only two RP servers with anything to do with Calamity both moved away from the Calamity topic, so... there's really nowhere you can roleplay as an existing intellectual property from Terraria except backwater Terraria-based RP servers that we have no connection with whatsoever. In short: don't RP anywhere near us, please

[dull kite]

@sinful violet

[sinful violet]

[dull kite]

Here take a yourdidit

[proven tide]

also the Yharim's Crystal buff should bring with it the last part of its tooltip: It’s basically cheating top kek lel

[dull kite]

Yharims crystal shouldn’t be buffed, fuck you.

[ancient dragon]

Evan it's not time to be mean to everyone

[dull kite]

shut up alexis

That’s my scal nohit weapon

You don’t just buff it

[proven tide]

yes you do ouo

[dull kite]

Until I nohit scal then you can buff it all you want

[heady comet]

you can do it

[proven tide]

250 base power

mmmmm

[dull kite]

It’s dps is easily 150k on scal

With my setup

That’s good enough

[heady comet]

*With my setup

[proven tide]

smh did you even read my suggestion

[dull kite]

no lUl

I saw buff and I went “fuck you”

[proven tide]

It was never designed as a balanced weapon .>.

"Now that it's a 1/100 drop from Yharon, not only does this make it significantly less rare than a number of trivial and mundane items from Vanilla (where, might I remind you, there aren't any items or weapons stronger than the Crystal - so why are they rarer than this, the designated unobtainably rare superweapon?), but also the compensatory nerf detracted from what made it special. It's Yharim's Crystal, the infamous, godlike Jungle Tyrant's personal fuck-you-all-go-die-now beam - having it not only awarded so (relatively) easily, but also be this weak (compared to its original self) undermines that substantially."

[heady comet]

Its not weak tho

[proven tide]

The operative phrase being compared to its original self

"We have enough decently balanced weapons (read: decent rarity for decent power) at that point in the game (post-Yharon) - so why not let Yharim's Crystal go back to being the unbelievably rare portable nuke that it was, when obtaining it felt more meaningful and special?"

There are already enough balanced weapons around that point — so the Yharim's Crystal, which made its mark as a superweapon existing outside the standard progression and being unbelievably rare to compensate, didn't need to be roped into the standard system with the rest.

[west prairie]

Rarity does not justify power

Not to a broken degree

[proven tide]

On the flip side, though, power necessitates rarity

[west prairie]

Plus defiled mode would just make its drop rate 5% unless fabsol made it exempt

[proven tide]

There are a number of exemptions, and this is already amongst them, IIRC.

It's already a 1% drop, so if it's not increased to 5% already, it wouldn't be after a buff. Even if it isn't yet exempt, a buff would, again, necessitate rarity to balance it.

[ashen warren]

my vocabulary doesnt understand your words

at all

yharim's crystal doesnt need a buff

[fervent zealot]

yes it does

[proven tide]

long story short it's lost what made it special

[ashen warren]

its still fuckin special

[proven tide]

it was a literal one-in-a-million superweapon

it didn't need to be thrown onto the pile of "good weapons" when it was "amazing, but functionally unobtainable"

[ashen warren]

this mod made every weapon that was a "superweapon" not a superweapon to make it so even if the weapon was powerful it wouldnt completely annhilate the entire rest of your world

enter , the legendaries

[proven tide]

that didn't need to happen there was one boss you could use this item against

unless you were named after devs

that's a bit of a cheese mechanic

[ashen warren]

and it completely BEANED the final boss

"final"

[proven tide]

...which is no longer going to be the final boss

[ashen warren]

technically yharon's the final boss but sh

[proven tide]

"true final" is the term

[fervent zealot]

he won't be any more

changes are coming soon

[ashen warren]

I KNOW

;-;

[fervent zealot]

soon™

[proven tide]

Now that we're getting bosses so strong that Yharim won't even be a superboss in comparison to them, the Crystal's nerf isn't going to be necessary

[ashen warren]

yharim

?

[proven tide]

Yharim, yes.

Not the dragon, the Tyrant.

[ashen warren]

im confused

yharim is the final boss in the progression

he will be a superboss , iirc what a mod said to me yesterday , dont quote me on that tho

[proven tide]

According to Fab, Yharim will not be a superboss.

[ashen warren]

lol

[proven tide]

The point is there will be a total of five bosses after Yharon, some so strong they're on a different tier to Yharim himself, so the Crystal's nerf won't be necessary any more.

[delicate raft]

sad

[ashen warren]

the crystals nerf was absolutely necessary

[proven tide]

Was.

[ashen warren]

1 million dps on a single target is too fuckin much

[proven tide]

When there was one boss post-Yharon.

[ashen warren]

are you blind

[proven tide]

they're just going to keep amping up the damage reduction for each progressive boss

[ashen warren]

i know lol

but still

if something is getting 1 million dps with that kind of range there is serious problems with that weapons power

and i get it , its supposed to be rare , but thats still wayy too strong

and that dps was way back when the old auric tesla armor was a thing . no special set bonuses or anything

so its bound to be higher at this point

[proven tide]

*stares pointedly at apotheosis

[ashen warren]

apoth is a dev weapon

and also a meme weapon

nobody cares how powerful that thing is

[proven tide]

yeah uh I got 4.7M DPS on three targets

[ashen warren]

i got 10 mil on one target

its supposed to be uncontrollably broken

[proven tide]

So was the YC

So... a craftable weapon .... that isn't progression-locked... that doesn't require Shadowspec to make... that gets 10M DPS on one target... is fine...

But an uncraftable weapon... that's progression-locked... that has an unbelievably low drop rate (in the millions, it would be higher than ever before to compensate for the buff reversion)... that gets 1M DPS on one target... is unacceptable?

[ashen warren]

apotheosis DIDNT do 10 million dps back when yharim's crystal was 1/1m

it did like 40k but ignore that

[neon panther]

@ashen warren

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren every boss will have a music box

[calm temple]

One question: Even with the increased damage reduction, YC will still be ridiculously OP on expert/normal mode for yharim/draedon/scal/goozma.

[ashen warren]

no

[delicate raft]

@ashen warren seriously

[proven tide]

^

[ashen warren]

k gotcha

sorry

yharim's crystal wont be that op , no weapon in the mod will be op against those bosses i dont think

its really hard to get a good dps on scal , even right now

[dull kite]

apotheosis

[ashen warren]

other than that thing

with normal weapons a consistent dps on scal is tricky af

[proven tide]

Seriously, does the Cascade need a 1/400 drop rate for a 27 BP yoyo?

[ashen warren]

yeah

cascade isnt even that rare tbh

[proven tide]

How rare would you make a 175+ BP Yharim's Crystal?

[ashen warren]

bp ?

my brain is dead

[proven tide]

Base power

[ashen warren]

like base damage ?

[proven tide]

Right yes that

I was thinking Pokémon what an idiot I am

[languid pendant]

lol

[ashen warren]

yharim's crystal does a lot more than it says lol

[proven tide]

Considering its old base damage was 250 and its current base damage is 100, what would you make a Yharim's Crystal of 175+ power?

[ashen warren]

but maybe 1/250 ? 1/1,000,000 was wayyy too extreme

or 1/300 that was the old drop rate of legendaries

when they scaled

[proven tide]

and yet 250 base damage and 1/1M rarity is too far?

[ashen warren]

yeah

it really was ...

[neon panther]

i mean base damage doesnt mean much

[proven tide]

It affects the DPS significantly

for the yharim's crystal just multiply its base power by ~4000 to get its single-target dps

[neon panther]

tbh

[proven tide]

Frankly, having Yharim's Crystal be so rare meant it felt like something meaningful had been accomplished upon obtaining it. Like, it felt actually good and like a real reward — but as it's been nerfed into being "strong" rather than "nuke" and made much more common from one source and removed from all the others (RIP 1/1M droprate) it kinda lost what defined it.

AFK

[neon panther]

I think i would like yharims crystal to be changed back to what it was, but it would have to be banned from no-hits like apotheosis

[fervent zealot]

we already have a meme weapon we don't need two meme god tier mage weapons

[cyan lagoon]

uh

No boss suggestions are allowed, and no, it is not your idea.

[ancient dragon]

Oh shit, what'd I miss?

[ashen warren]

Am I allowed to suggest ideas for the upcoming anonymous boss?

[trim raptor]

They probably have it planned already

[west prairie]

Yeah

[sudden quail]

inb4 the final boss is Xeroc

[ashen warren]

Amidias,

I would think Goozma will get it's own weapon or armor set.

[neon panther]

ehh its a superboss

[ashen warren]

Maybe like a Celestial-meteor type set.

[neon panther]

superbosses normally dont give new sets

its not a part of progression

[ashen warren]

Well maybe one Goozma is defeated, an ore starts to pop up around the world.

[neon panther]

maybe, but i doubt it

[ashen warren]

goozma wont spawn ore ?

that'd be weird .

an optional superboss spawning ore to make (probably) dev weapons would be really weird

[neon panther]

goozma is optional, is it not?

[ashen warren]

it is optional

[heady ice]

ye

[neon panther]

you're contradictory

[ashen warren]

Goozma should be a progression boss, Yharim should be a superboss.

fab wont listen to that

he made it very clear that goozma will be optional

I Know..

yharim is mentioned in the lore everywhere

and yharim is telling the lore

[neon panther]

if it doesnt spawn ore it'll be weird, because only optional superboss spawning ore is weird, but its optional superboss

what

[ashen warren]

what the fuck did you just say

i understood like none of that

[neon panther]

the same thing you said

[ashen warren]

I just think Yharim should be insanely powerful.

[sinful violet]

Superbosses are usually defined by their irrelevance to the main story, and their difficulty

[ashen warren]

hes the final boss lol

[sinful violet]

And Yharim's been confirmed by fab to be weaker than goozma.

[neon panther]

unless you meant that goozma will not spawn ore, and it would be weird if he did

[ashen warren]

thats what i meant

[neon panther]

ok it was confusing

[ashen warren]

sorry

[neon panther]

uhh suggestions

[ashen warren]

im tired lol

Yharim shouldn't be weaker than a big ball with spikes.

he wont be that anymore

[strong monolith]

Goozma is like a True Slime God

[brave warren]

goozma is an edgy anti-god that can summon black holes and shit , they have to be more powerful pl

[ashen warren]

^

Goozma isnt a slime anymore.

goozma will no longer be a slime

Or at least not related.

goozma is an anti-god

[strong monolith]

O

[neon panther]

in b4 goozma is slime goddess\

[strong monolith]

So he's an antithesis to Providence

[brave warren]

inb4 other superboss is actually all slimes combined but we're too dumb

[ashen warren]

lol

[strong monolith]

Other superboss is Andromeda

[ashen warren]

i hope thats not the case

[neon panther]

all the worm bosses are just plated slimes stuck together

[ashen warren]

final boss will be the forbidden one from terry's server

Amidias should be a boss, but pre-Yharon, I mean the player does kill Cnidrion.

And Amidias and Cnidrion ruled the ocean together.

[strong monolith]

Inb4 Amidias is Sulphurous Sea equivalent of Cnidrion, just like the AS and DS

[ashen warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451530422678192174/466133420041568282/Head_of_the_Forbidden_One.png its this thing

[sinful violet]

[ashen warren]

I dont know what to say.

am i about to get eaten ...

[brave warren]

na let's talk about suggestions again

[strong monolith]

PBG but with terminator lasers

[ashen warren]

new pbg sprite is

h o t

[sinful violet]

unrelated, can we please stay on topic

[ashen warren]

Bring back the original Auric Tesla Helmet.

[strong monolith]

What about PBG AI changes that fit with the new sprite?

[sinful violet]

It's already under development

[brave warren]

the original helmet could possibly be a vanity drop from yharim

would b nice

[ashen warren]

Maybe give the Auric Tesla Set a slight buff, and have it actually be a Yharim drop.

Oh wait, Signus vanity.

[heady comet]

Auric tesla is really powerful

[ashen warren]

The shifting of the bosses is making things a bit confusing.

Or is it just me.

[brave warren]

permafrost npc planned

[cyan lagoon]

that's already being planned

[neon panther]

oh

[ashen warren]

All of the planned town npc's that I have heard were: Yharim, Amdias, Calamitas, Permafrost, And I Think One More.

[brave warren]

fabsol

[neon panther]

Calamitas as a town npc would make me uncomfortable

[heady comet]

She technically already is an npc

[round falcon]

i dont think she'd be an eye though. honestly scal sprite npc would haunt my nightmares

[neon panther]

i just mean at any moment she could brimstone hellblast me to pieces

[sudden quail]

SCal is planned to have a humanoid sprite

[quasi fable]

Calamitits 😍

[ashen warren]

no

[quasi fable]

☹

[round falcon]

dont lewd eye-girl

[sleek wigeon]

better suggestion

have these tridents be consumable

and crafted with calmitas essence

[true crescent]

Better

[brave warren]

3 Ashes of Calamity + 1 Essence of Chaos ?

for 100

[true crescent]

Post SCAL

[brave warren]

oo

had clonelamitas first time, didn't see

[true crescent]

Ijones suggested it should be post SCal

So that’s what i did

[sleek wigeon]

Not post scal

I just ment make it consumable using the essences cloney drops

i should really know the names of these things\

[brave warren]

the ashes lol