wait what second mod?
#suggestions-discussion
eager ivy
rugged finch
Just type alchemist and it will come up
It was added pretty recently
Also I think should move to #other-mod-talk if were continuing to talk about this
inner rover
is the suggestion bot online?
inner rover
ah ok
bitter topaz
@honest cedar no. that's retarded
what in the ever-living fuck made you think seperating the main draw of the mod into another one was a good idea
subtle cove
Wtf
honest cedar
hahaha i love this community
subtle cove
Why would they separate it?
honest cedar
i suggested it because it would be nice to have a harder mode for every mod rather than just calamity
even if it doesnt add new boss patterns
honest cedar
yeah but they wont
bitter topaz
they will if they want
honest cedar
they can sure
empty kayak
other modes have expert though
honest cedar
expert isnt really hard enough
empty kayak
do they really need to copy calamity
bitter topaz
rev and death don't even affect other mod bosses
so it'd be moot and useless,
and also, again revengeance and death are one of the flagship features of this mod
honest cedar
then just install both
bitter topaz
why the fuck would you remove a flagship feature in the first place
honest cedar
say in the desc or something that it has compatibility with rev mode
bitter topaz
you don't seem to get it? do you?
revengeance and death are one of the main selling points
it'd be retarded to arbitrarily remove them from the mod and make them seperate
it's like if fab randomly removed yharon, or DoG from the mod
bitter topaz
and said "haha fuck you download this mod to get the original experience back"
vague olive
Guys can we move the ranger weapons into a different class thanks
fervent zealot
actually yes
hollow shell
@analog grove This channel is for discussing suggestons
vague olive
@analog grove dont talk in there
hollow shell
Keep questions and discussions out of the #suggestions-voting channel itself
analog grove
ok
ruby cobalt
actually wait
@flat scarab this is a really shitty suggestion
you wanna know why?
#bugs-read-pins exists
#help-advice-read-pins exists
#rules exists
flat scarab
and we still see this happen
ruby cobalt
and nobody ever read through those channels or pins in them
yes
that's the point
even if the channel's name includes READ PINS nobody ever will do that
because nobody knows what pins are
vague olive
Maybe the channel name made more people read pins for bugs
flat scarab
hmm good point
ruby cobalt
at this point we need an IQ test or a bot to place a special role
actually yea, lemme slightly rework it
vague olive
But we dont know because if they read pins they might have seen that the bug was known resulting in them not posting
flat scarab
maybe people just don't know what pis are? (the icon)
ruby cobalt
"Add a bot to the server that would place a role for 30 minutes on every newcomer that would only have access to #rules"
vague olive
^
flat scarab
sounds good
ruby cobalt
you can change yours to that
or I'll just post it myself
I guess it's no longer an alternative, eh
flat scarab
deleted mine, the other one is better
flat scarab
yeah wtf
ruby cobalt
but sure, not a bad thing
it would hold off spammers, and we got a big amount of them now
cyan lagoon
the server already went through that 10 minute verification
flat scarab
what does security have to do with people reading? sure it would prevent spam but it has nothing to do with the current issue which is people not reading
ruby cobalt
it stops them from posting anything
flat scarab
also did not know it already had it
ruby cobalt
meaning the only thing they can do is read
and assuming they don't just go do something else for the next 10 minutes they would read
but they never do
vague olive
That worm sounds way too hard to code and fab hates coding them already
flat scarab
yup, making them only be able to access #rules would prevent spam AND people would read
cyan lagoon
making a channel just for known bugs is tedious and pointless
and plus having a reaction lock is also tedious
since someone has to constantly check every react and then give perms
dense nebula
why dont we just make a bot for that
cause otherwise im about to lose the rest of my brain cells reading posts in #bugs-read-pins
dense nebula
true
but that doesnt fix the main point
people dont read pins
or just dont have the patience to
fervent zealot
you can't fix people
dense nebula
and?
fervent zealot
you're trying to solve an unsolvable problem
no matter what we do we'll always have idiots who don't check pins
tired haven
Shamely I have to agree
dense nebula
yeah true
cyan lagoon
uh
round falcon
what
dense nebula
are u saying resprite the healthbars?
dense nebula
so without any mods?
OK let me get this straight
youre asking to get custom healthbarsfor calamity bosses, but with a mod that is no where near related to calamity
round falcon
its a qol mod that adds boss health bars most youtubers use it
dense nebula
that sound right?
vague olive
He means boss healthbar compatibility
round falcon
sacredtools does it
vague olive
With custom healthbar
dense nebula
we arent sacredtools
round falcon
i know
dense nebula
but imean this is up to people
round falcon
im just saying itd be cool
vague olive
What are you trying to say @dense nebula
dense nebula
this is just purely aesthetic unless if u dont wanna install a boss healthbars
vague olive
What
dense nebula
well idk
vague olive
Thats not his suggestion
dense nebula
this dude first talked about custom healthbars or something
then u start talking about random shit
vague olive
Have you heard of the boss health bar mod
dense nebula
Sprites for the healthbars?
vague olive
That change the border of the healthbar
vague olive
Thats what he wants
round falcon
p0rtal is correct i dont like the gold one
vague olive
Healthbar sprites for the calamity bosses
dense nebula
i think you may have to post this in the discord where theres yet another healthbar
vague olive
Also sounds like a great idea doggo
dense nebula
well
vague olive
Ive seen someone make a sprite for one in the art server
dense nebula
i dont see why you would be looking at the healthbar 24/7
youre tryna fight a boss not become a criticist
round falcon
it helps to have a massive health bar with the exact numbers of hp out of max
flat scarab
i watch health bar 12/3.5 since it disappears half of the time but i like the idea
vague olive
dense nebula
Yet another healthbar already does this exact numbers of hp/max
vague olive
Here it is
ruby cobalt
👁
vague olive
👁
dense nebula
tedious to make the sprites and stuff
vague olive
Not really
dense nebula
they help me figure out what weapon is what
flat scarab
some star doggo's suggestion please
vague olive
@ashen warren stars please
ashen warren
hm?
fervent zealot
no begging for stars 
ashen warren
where
dense nebula
ashen warren
done
vague olive
Thanks
odd terrace
@gritty crow That Heart of the Elements change is the only thing that would make it viable
As in, unless you buff it to a game-breaking degree, it's still going to be trash (often being literally worse than having no accessory at all)
gritty crow
No he's talking about another suggestion I made
dense girder
oh sorry
gritty crow
Poor HoTE is HoTe trash
toxic pagoda
yeah I was never a fan of pixel waifus anyway
paper wagon
Quick question though
gritty crow
I kind of like the idea of an equipment that summons a small army, but the waifus ~~ aren't my type~~ do a bad job of it
paper wagon
Would Armageddon mode affect the "Warning Shots"
gritty crow
I'd say no, it wouldn't count as an actual boss fight
gritty crow
Though most people don't play with armageddon mode on always, they just turn it on before boss fights and off after they're done
pure vector
Serpent of profanity? Does it scream out curse words?
sinful violet
@toxic pagoda Don't talk in there
heady comet
^
winged mortar
That's why I said after spaz is killed
toxic pagoda
Ok
sinful violet
Save discussion for this channel
toxic pagoda
ohhhh omg I clicked the wrong channel I’m sorry
winged mortar
Because basically all you need to do is circle him and avoid a few lasers
toxic pagoda
I have not made a suggestion yet, but don’t judge if it is bad. Who knows, this could be cool.
I am about to make one.
So,
How’s my suggestion?
hollow shell
oof
cyan lagoon
toxic pagoda
Lol
winged mortar
What of you're doing a class playthrough?
winged mortar
And murasama is true melee
toxic pagoda
Good point, good point.
winged mortar
The idea of fighting the final boss like that doesn't seem very fun
Unless you want a challenge
winged mortar
That's seems like and anticlimactic end to the story
Considering he is the most powerful person in the storyline
toxic pagoda
Yeah perhaps.
winged mortar
A post Yharim NPC that gives various challenges could have potential though
toxic pagoda
A boss fight right after Yharon would be a hassle, but Using Yharons own weapons against his master...
ashen warren
yharim is already planned to be the final boss of the mod , so ending in a way like that doesnt seem right to me
winged mortar
Goozma and that other might come after him
toxic pagoda
Ok
winged mortar
Scal is post Draedon and pre Yharim
ashen warren
boss progression goes yharon > draedon > scal > yharim iirc
winged mortar
I kind of wish Scal would stay a super boss but 5 endgame superbosses would take forever
toxic pagoda
What if after you kill providence there is a brief moment of DoG charging at him and then disappearing
winged mortar
Ik
cyan lagoon
Well, there's basically 3
winged mortar
Everything post Yharon I would say counts as endgame
cyan lagoon
the two i just mentioned, and Yharim as the finale
ashen warren
draedon scal and yharim are the final three , correct ?
winged mortar
Yeah
ashen warren
other than the optional superbosses
winged mortar
It's lihzahrd
winged mortar
I always thought he was another terrarian
And Draedon was just a cloud of nanomachines that possessed things
I doubt that's what the devs will make him though
toxic pagoda
What if at like 9001 health (over 9000 lol) S.C desides to spare you and offers to remain where it is until yharim is summoned, so she and you can bring yharim down, but yharim instantly kills S.C and the drops fall on you, then yharim leaves. An NPC called “weakened calamity” will spawn, and she will sell scal materials and her text will revolve around sadness and revenge, like being sad that she can’t be yharims enemy as a weaker human, and beg you to get revenge on yharim, etc.
toxic pagoda
I guess if it is worthy.
ashen warren
tbh thats interesting , but i dont think we should post these ideas yet
we should wait till we see what the actual fights are like before anything imo
toxic pagoda
True.
winged mortar
It could be annoying keeping an enemy alive in the world
toxic pagoda
Yharim would leave, meaning despawn
Sorry for my vocabulary
Basically saying the S.C fight is straight up storyline, and is not your average boss that you can “farm”
pure vector
What if Providence had a death animation, with a hallucination of DoG seen above her watching the player before briefly disappearing/leaving
ashen warren
that would completely ruin the purpose of fighting her in the first place
if she doesnt drop anything (i believe she wont drop calamitous essence anymore) and is pure story than you wouldnt need to fight her at all
toxic pagoda
@pure vector If you scroll above I said something very similar, and I mean, VERY similar.
heady comet
Shield of the ocean should give you a pre eoc dash tbh
ashen warren
please put that in suggestions
heady comet
No
ashen warren
a one block dash 
heady comet
Because its a meme
pure vector
It's not really the same though
I mean DoG is just watching
he knows he lost his opportunity
ashen warren
it would kinda be like the lunar worm from ultraconyx i assume
except with a lower spawn rate
pure vector
maybe he could even bring up providence in his battle quotes too
ashen warren
because the lunar worm spawns every ten fucking seconds
pure vector
probably annoyed that the player killed providence before he could
toxic pagoda
Yea
left gull
i mean technically we can kill providence like 3 billion times
toxic pagoda
Providence at the bottom of the food chain lol
left gull
can DoG even kill slime god
cyan lagoon
goozma isn't a slime anymore though
left gull
its ya boi goozma
ashen warren
what is goozma now
pure vector
If Yharon could even be spared, wouldn't that mean SC needs a change of battle quotes incase the player spares the dragon?
cyan lagoon
that can't be said
ashen warren
ooooooooo
toxic pagoda
What if there is a counterpart to the hallow
subtle zinc
how big is goozma gonna be?
toxic pagoda
Like corruption is dark, hallow is light, and crimson is pure(bloody, etc), but it’s counterpart would be very technological and not be lifelike
delicate raft
Not very big
left gull
dean Mcmeme so the cyber then
delicate raft
Maybe like EoC?
left gull
there's already a whole idea for that
toxic pagoda
Yea
rugged finch
The biggest id imagine goozma is a moon from scal's fight
pure vector
imagine if the nanomachine biome is where you fight draedon, and a certain boss spawns that biome
rugged finch
I dont think it would be that big, thats the size I think it would get to at the most
winged mortar
Perhaps it could be post Yharon and is the counterpart to a brimstone biome where you fight calamitas
hollow shell
The sprite for Goozma was already revealed 
pure vector
technically calamitas can be fought anywhere, not just in the profaned crags
just has to be night
hollow shell
yeh
delicate raft
Then yeah, it would be like that big red orb
lucid marsh
@toxic pagoda your idea is the worst and most unfun idea I’ve ever seen
winged mortar
I think I heard that he wasn't going to be slime themed
pure vector
Good, because I hate slime god
winged mortar
Though still themed to goo
And from what the Sprite looks like, some form of crystal
sinful violet
Not anymore
pure vector
Who knows? It could even be that secret superboss
sleek wadi
Should be renamed then if it isn't slime based
pure vector
it still has goo though
winged mortar
I would like to see something that was "Draedon's greatest invention"
Since according to the lore the mechs were huge failures
pure vector
What if the Draedon boss was a massive mech of himself that he controls on the head cockpit, and is so massive that most of it is in the background and you can only hit its head and limbs
winged mortar
Like Moon Lord?
pure vector
ya
winged mortar
But bigger?
pure vector
Only as large as the whole HD screen
flat scarab
boss fight suggestions
winged mortar
Not really
pure vector
Because why not
flat scarab
eh true
pure vector
This is suggestions DISCUSSION for a reason
subtle zinc
Draedon could be the same size as the character but can control a mech version of cthulhu
winged mortar
Or maybe the robot could take up an entire side of the screen like that one from cuphead
pure vector
it could even be the dynamics of multiple bosses
flat scarab
like worms
subtle zinc
the head of mecthulhu
pure vector
when its head detaches from sustaining damage the main body collapses but the head gains limbs and continues attacking like golem
subtle zinc
crap destroyer spawned
winged mortar
He could just jump out and fight you himself
flat scarab
50% robot would be a worm tbh
winged mortar
He could spawn exp versions of the mechs
pure vector
and then Draedon ejects and shoots you with pistols
winged mortar
Exo*
winged mortar
That's what I said
But really strong versions made out for whatever the exo weapons are made of
flat scarab
maybe perfect version of mechs as guardians sorta?
subtle zinc
oh
pure vector
Shooting the power core of the mech to expose the head cockpit to make it fall off and then destroy the mech that the head turned into and then kill draedon who ejected from the destroyed mech who uses exo weapons to kill you and uses a jetpack to dodge what you throw at him
winged mortar
Could be like a side scroller
pure vector
I wonder how long the fight would be if it was like that xD
subtle zinc
draedon should have half the amount of health as his mecthulhu
winged mortar
Like wall of mech
subtle zinc
true
flat scarab
why a jetpack? this guy made killer mechs
pure vector
Wait...
pure vector
Imagine if Draedon made a mechanical moon lord
subtle zinc
when i think of draedon i imagine him with the santa NK1 mask for some reason xD
flat scarab
at first i though moon lord was Cthulhu, boy i was wrong
pure vector
That's his brother
pure vector
actually come to think of it
I think Draedon must be vital
to crafting exo weapons in the first place
pure vector
Maybe Draedon drops exo blueprints that you need to craft the exo weapons
because he invented them
flat scarab
but you can make them before that?
pure vector
I'm pretty sure its already post yharon
subtle zinc
or i mean
pure vector
or post phase 1 at least
subtle zinc
post superbosses
toxic pagoda
@lucid marsh opinions are opinions, but you weren’t even close to offending me 😉
pure vector
I dunno, maybe Draedon could become an npc once you defeat his mech
and he falls off his mech after you defeat him
toxic pagoda
Yeah
lucid marsh
I don’t care wether I offended you or not, but the majority opinion is clear from the lack of stars on that idea
subtle zinc
mecthulhu has gone deviant
toxic pagoda
Yeah I guess
Onto the whole draedon discussion, he should drop a blueprint, and with that and the draedons forge, you craft the [True Draedons Forge]? Idk.
pure vector
or maybe Draedon's forge requires you to get it from draedon himself?
toxic pagoda
@flat scarab exo weapons, eye of extinction
flat scarab
looks pointless to me tbh
flat scarab
normal forge is okay
pure vector
he cannot return
flat scarab
@toxic pagoda also don't pin me
toxic pagoda
K
subtle zinc
the mech of cthulhu that he has would have two multicolored eyes on both hands, and when you defeat them it will spawn invincible twins
toxic pagoda
Draedon needs an important role when you defeat him though
subtle zinc
you then have to aim for a spot under his neck
pure vector
and other stuff
subtle zinc
which will summon an invincible destroyer
pure vector
Only Draedon knows how to craft exo weapons
toxic pagoda
Exo dust?
pure vector
so just buy his recipe xD
subtle zinc
finally the head will come flying at you
defeating it summons the skull of S prime
then just kill draedon
*boom
sleek wadi
"Sure you can have this Exoblade recipe, it'll cost ya one Meteorite Coin(Which is like 4 levels above platinum)"
pure vector
Hmmm
Should calamity really add extra coin levels?
maybe a special currency like what the tavernkeep accepts?
fetch Draedon something rare and he will reward you
sleek wadi
That'd only be 40 of whatever is above the thing above platinum
hazy glacier
one thing preventing an extra coin being added is the 32 bit integer limit
the maximum platinum you can have before shops break is like 2.14k or so so because it’s stored as an amount of coppers
but could you have another currency?
ashen warren
its 2k
legend coin from disarray makes that different
it doesnt even count as a coin by the game
but its still shootably by the coin gun and you can still make it down to platinum again
@hazy glacier also you can cancel that by putting your money in a piggy bank
hazy glacier
@left gull in lou to your post in suggestions, there’s already true shadow scales which are used to make weapons and the shadethrower
left gull
yes but these are truer shadow scales
ancient dragon
Kinda odd how everyone just started tossing suggestions for 'once you kill X boss, Y related to the next boss happens'.
hazy glacier
aight what I said didn’t even make sense
round falcon
i come back and i see my suggestion has a lot of support, tysm guys
hazy glacier
yw
ancient dragon
Considering Fab's gone the route of making his own health bars, I don't think that'll happen.
hollow shell
@sleek wigeon smh I thought you'd know
brave warren
grrr ijones bad
sleek wigeon
`smh, shame tag was too slow
sleek wigeon
:(
hollow shell
@ashen warren Do you speak from in-game experience?
Cuz for me they're pretty frickin good
well, at least Grand Guardian is
ashen warren
they're so small
and yes from in game experience
against boss monsters they're pretty much useless
they're so small and most bosses do unholy contact damage
@hollow shell
@uneven pelican thats EXTREMELY overpowered
hollow shell
post-SC 500HP potion/food I can understand
but the 1hr of buffs is too much
ashen warren
^
hollow shell
Well Fed for like 10 minutes is fine, considering you're gonna be eating a lot of em anyway if you're fighting her
also yeah those swords aren't amazing against bosses
but in like every other situation they're great
during exploring, events, zergs, etc
uneven pelican
well i was thinking that Brimstone Monster Orbs would become vulnerable, but a huge amount of health. if the player managed to kill some, the reward would be good. and i agree, an hour seems like too much.
ashen warren
@hollow shell yeah , you're right , it just looks smaller now . almost POSITIVE it swinged much faster tho
hollow shell
There probably were functional changes
The big fast-swinging boss-grinder is Omniblade
not as large but if you have the right position and loadout you can completely melt bosses
steep island
@stiff arrow Hot pink is reserved for dev items, scal will prob not get non dev item drops, and no need to post stats
stiff arrow
Oh, ok
hollow shell
also
Abyssal Fireballs?
stiff arrow
The Projectile that SCal shoots that then Splits into the arrow looking shots
hollow shell
Ah
Cuz I was gonna say
we have Lashes of Chaos, Burning Sea, and Seething Discharge basically replicating all of her other attacks
neon panther
what about the big face things
hollow shell
Brimstone Monster minion staff when
stiff arrow
Those are "Brimstone Monster orbs" according to the wiki
ashen warren
The thing Brimmy elemental shoots as well
narrow halo
Before I throw out my suggestion to the channel, does an upgrade for the Charged Blaster Cannon or a similar weapon exist in Calamity already?
lusty idol
Yharon swooping down to harm Yharon. xD
narrow halo
You may be thinking of the Charged Dart Blaster.
ashen warren
Red bunnies that are normal bunnies
ashen warren
what?
lusty idol
What's with the suggestions with stats? 
A simple reference or idea of its stats should do the trick.
deep rampart
🤔
lusty idol
- Do not add stats to your suggestions, they are decided by Fabsol. If needed, suggest what period of the game the item or enemy is found. From the pins in #suggestions-voting
ashen warren
Lava is a bit of a stretch. Maybe remove the lava immunity but add defense/damage reduction?
The Earthern plating would also probably fit in the absorber's recipe
lusty idol
What is the full name of HoTE?
crude quartz
Heart of the Elements
tepid wadi
@wide patrol Is it an accessory?
tepid wadi
Perhaps an idea to add that to the description? Since I thought at first it would be a material
wide patrol
I'd edit it if I weren't afraid of a certain error that occurred on my last edit
Oh whatever
There
tepid wadi
Cheers 👍🏻
hollow shell
(a bit of an Abyssal Diving Suit ripoff but I'll take it)
wide patrol
Ehh
tepid wadi
Maybe it could be used for that?
ashen warren
Indeed
tepid wadi
Since the addition to the buff litereally came out of nowhere
ashen warren
Yeah it's completely random unlike it's other traits derived from it's base ingredients
wide patrol
You people take over. I'm rather uncreative
ashen warren
Well bot was down anyway
wide patrol
Copy, delete, and paste all you want
restive coral
there's way too much
hollow shell
No backlog feature for the bot?
Scan over all the messages from a certain point onward, see which has 35+?
restive coral
Unfortunately, that's not how it works
hollow shell
Damn.
restive coral
The bot loses the message cache from before
vague olive
Cant you take the ones evan has?
vague olive
Oh ok
restive coral
I could theoretically scan for messages and add them to the cache manually but it would take quite a lot of time
I'm not even sure if it is possible
besides, I'm new to the framework I'm using to develop the bot, so you'll have to give me a break
hollow shell
I mean it seems like it should be an easy feature
to
have a bot scan messages after a certain date, checking if star reactions are over 35 in quantity
but yeah, I've never tried making a Discord bot before, so it might be difficult
quasi fable
@restive coral can yiu make it write to a file upon shutdown
restive coral
It already does
HOWEVER
I think I discovered a potential solution to this whole problem
quasi fable
Oh?
restive coral
the bot triggers on events like message sends and reaction adds
quasi fable
Yes
quasi fable
So just react on all suggestions?
restive coral
there are other events that i can listen to that fire regardless of the message cache
I will have to rewrite some of the bot here, but if it solves this then it's all worth it
hollow shell
Nice
clever pendant
"until then we have to deal"
Press F to pay respects
sudden quail
A
sinful violet
quiet abyss
Saying just “ red souls” doesnt explain what you’re suggesting at all
ashen warren
^^
quiet abyss
Like, is it a material, new mobs, what does it do, where it appears, etc.
errant grove
The power of editing
quiet abyss
You could just tag that guy in here and tell him your suggested name, ya know
And let him edit his post
ashen warren
^^^^^^^
errant grove
"I could"
ashen warren
the way the bot renders suggestions, your suggestion would make 0 sense if it got 35 stars
quiet abyss
Ye, the devs would be like “Wut?”
errant grove
-_-
ashen warren
dont get mad we jus tryna help you ;-;
errant grove
I'm just tired lol
ashen warren
Just edit your post to say "Rename blood orbs to Red Souls."
for it to make sense
(albeit, red souls doesn't really fit their design)
heady comet
Life sauce
sudden quail
pls tag me i like attention
quiet abyss
ashen warren
errant grove
I quit
heady comet
Give me the life sauce
heady comet
Sad pepperonis
ashen warren
they look nothing like souls tbh
sudden quail
Blood Essence
muted birch
They look more like shards than anything else tbh
heady comet
Thats too similar to bloodletting essence
quiet abyss
...Should I think of an idea for a good throwing weapon for ML? Xeroc pitchforks aint exactly the best weapons for ML
ashen warren
Life Shards?
heady comet
Lmfao
errant grove
Thats too close and relatable to life Crystal
sudden quail
Essential Blood
quiet abyss
And living shards
errant grove
Tru
errant grove
New name
ashen warren
bloood
errant grove
"nonliving shards"
ashen warren
Thinking of names is actually harder than spriting and coding the damn things
muted birch
"Cursed shards"
errant grove
muted birch
Idk
errant grove
"red"
ashen warren
blood orbs
sudden quail
Was tryna incorportate the Moon in there somehow
errant grove
Blood orbs is the best name for em
muted birch
Yeah
sudden quail
THEY'RE NOT ORBS THOUGH
errant grove
Man we should have thought of this sooner
ashen warren
bloody deflated heart
muted birch
I think we have realized this
ashen warren
muted birch
Sure they arent orbs
errant grove
Blood cells
ashen warren
I'd rather sprite and code an item than name it tbh
muted birch
But what else is there?
sudden quail
Unholy Shards
ashen warren
sudden quail
wait
ashen warren
too providence-y
muted birch
Hah
quiet abyss
Theres unholy essences already
sudden quail
That's literally a thorium thing available from the same event
muted birch
Yeah
errant grove
Orb blood
ashen warren
"use these to make potions we couldn't think of a name stop bullying us"
ood bloorb
best name
muted birch
Lunar Shards?
errant grove
Red blorb
sudden quail
Desecrated Pieces
muted birch
Yeah Blood Orbs is the best name
brave warren
blood orbeez
sudden quail
Desecrated Things
ashen warren
defecated things
sudden quail
reeee
brave warren
blood shards
ashen warren
feacle orbs
ashen warren
D E F E C A T E D C E L L S
muted birch
Blood moon shards ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sudden quail
Blood Cells?
ashen warren
bloodstained heart
muted birch
I dont know
ashen warren
quiet abyss
Just call them “bloody thingies” and be done with it
muted birch
I cant
sudden quail
Sanguine Cells
brave warren
inb4 devs decide to make it look like an orb
errant grove
Marrow shards
ashen warren
you just went into thesaraus.com didnt you
sudden quail
Just do that tbh
errant grove
Orb was the old sprite
sudden quail
No I'm trying to remember the synonyms off by heart
brave warren
shit go back
ashen warren
orb orb
sudden quail
I'm failing tremendously
ashen warren
ooolrb borbs
sudden quail
Added resprite idea
ashen warren
ooooooooooorb blooobs
sudden quail
@ashen warren
quasi fable
Bloobs
ashen warren
im not even gonna say it
someone will at one point
boobs
and its not gonn fuck
quasi fable
😱😱
sudden quail
ashen warren
I had an idea for a throwing lunar tier armor
would probably require luminite + galactica singularities
sinful violet
Or repurpose xeroc
ashen warren
Yeah, considering the lunar alternative is usually the better option for other classes
yes
vague olive
Can you guys stop rephrasing a suggestion and just tell the original person to edit theirs
quiet abyss
Any of ya all think throwing lacks a good weapon for ML? More specifically on rev+?
ashen warren
I do
quiet abyss
Xeroc pitchforks are decent but not very viable
ashen warren
What do you suggest as an alternative?
quiet abyss
K, guess I know what I’ll be suggesting next...
When I get home, that is
Throwing aint my most fav but its definitely quite fun, and the lack of good weapons at points like post golem and pre ml is what urks me
Atleast my Plaguebringer Disk, a post golem throwing weapon suggestion, got up to 35 stars
Now I just need to think of a good throwing weapon pre ml post luna cultist
vague olive
A throwing version of the daybreak would work
Or maybe something made with vortex and solar fragments
quiet abyss
Mhm, ye that would work. But crafting a weapon and immediately upgrading it feels weird
ashen warren
or something with meld bars
vague olive
We have pitchforks
sudden quail
I don't see why there can't be a second Xeroc thrown weapon
quiet abyss
I was thinking meld bars and nebula frags but im up for ideas
ashen warren
xeroc seems to be for throwing anyways
sudden quail
Xeroc Bombs - Circular thrown weapons that home in on nearby enemies before exploding shortly after
Y/N
vague olive
Eh
quiet abyss
Now the question is:What type should I make it be? Throwing spear, boomerang, or bombs?
sudden quail
Just something I thought off the bat
sinful violet
I like the idea of a boomerang
sudden quail
Are there any Terra thrown weapons?
quiet abyss
Great, now Im stuck between choosing kunai and boomerang
ashen warren
No but there is an elemental disk
sudden quail
Kunai
vague olive
^
sudden quail
Throwing knives are cooler than boomerangs
vague olive
I might make a suggestion for an ele throwing weapon
That isnt shared with melee obv
Could work like the malachites rightclick
quasi fable
@quiet abyss kunai with chain
quasi fable
What is this!?
sudden quail
I remember back when I was first getting into modded Terraria, I saw a screenshot with a consumable weapon called Hallowed Kunai. I'd like something like that to be implemented.
But modified to be viable for ML
quiet abyss
I think I have an idea for kunais that are especially good against ML...but imma wait till I get home to refine it
vague olive
What do you guys think of my ele throwing weapon idea?
quiet abyss
Mhm another ele throwing weapon is cool
quasi fable
sinful violet
quiet abyss
But then summoner will be the only one with only one ele weapon granted, ele axes summons are fricking awesome
sudden quail
Kinda reminds me of that one Throwing weapon from Thorium, which was basically a hook attached to a chain
sinful violet
We could use more summon weapons anyway
quiet abyss
Mhm true
sinful violet
Kusarigama.
sudden quail
Yeah that one
quiet abyss
...Is this what Ive been reduced to? A dead inside whose current daily schedule is chatting, thinking up suggestions and managing the nohit doc along with helping other nohitters, while waiting for next update to arrive?
sudden quail
Yes.
sudden quail
Something something Xeroc Thrown Axe
quiet abyss
Meh, throwing axes dont appeal to me tbh
sudden quail
Damn. They do to me.
sudden quail
Stick with the Kunai
quiet abyss
Now I just need to think of a name while waiting for the school van to reach my home
Too bad cosmic kunai is already taken
ashen warren
luckily elemental tier weapon names are very simple
quiet abyss
“Elemental (something)”
ashen warren
Elemental Kunai would work fine
sudden quail
I remembered suggesting it a very long time ago, and it only just came back to me when I was helping with the brainstorming.
sinful violet
oic
If it's elemental could just be elemental kunai, yeah
or for another exo-weapon kunai, it could be Astronomical Sliver
ashen warren
throwing needs a non laggy exo weapon tbh
sudden quail
Joke suggestion: Exo Pillar - Basically my suggestion, just 100x stronger
vague olive
The ele kunai was mine
quiet abyss
^
quasi fable
@sudden quail drop from ravager lol
bitter drift
why not give it to the guy that literly throws pillers
sudden quail
That's actually a good idea. Ravager doesn't have many unique weapon drops, too.
pearl magnet
Would be really nice to do something with siren, respectively ???... It just ruins pirate map hunting just because you have to fight Leviathan all the time cause of missing targets or using AoE weapons...
ashen warren
Leviathan doesn't though (If you're in death mode)
ruby cobalt
easy, just farm those in piss sea
pearl magnet
With the mauler, super
pearl magnet
I really like to farm things in bigger amounts, such as shark fins etc, so zero potion is perfect for me, but not when every second second I have to fight that duo...
Zerg
sudden quail
You can edit your own posts.
ruby cobalt
the actual solution is much easier
pearl magnet
But I'm too lazy...
ruby cobalt
don't hit the lure
pearl magnet
Okay...
ruby cobalt
also I have literally no fucking clue why you're farming pirate maps
when pirates don't even drop anything worthy
outside of furniture
ancient dragon
Golden furniture's dogshit anyways.
ruby cobalt
that's kind of the point
ancient dragon
Hm?
ruby cobalt
pirates don't drop anything worthy of farming pirate maps
ancient dragon
Oh, I figured you were talking about the point of the furniture itself.
sudden quail
I'm farming Pirates right now so I can get a Discount Card and thus get cheaper reforges/cheaper boss summons
ruby cobalt
siren's heart
quiet abyss
^
quasi fable
Does it stack
ruby cobalt
it doesn't
quasi fable
Boring
polar cloak
Now you get to kill 30 ???s
sudden quail
I already got the Heart in pre-HM
sudden quail
Why would there be?
swift wharf
Then make a pin in suggestions saying to not post suggestions for deflied rune / armageddon modes drops
bitter drift
then they will defenetly post
swift wharf
internet logic
vague olive
Defiled rune and armageddon arent even modes like reveangence
Why would people think they can make something armageddon exclusive when you cant make something death exclusive
ashen warren
Revived the Astral Crystyl
sudden quail
You misspelled Deus
ashen warren
Fuck
sudden quail
And Crystyl
ashen warren
Crystyl is the name boi
sudden quail
IIRC if the word ends in an S, then you don't need the S at the end, just the apostrophe. Also Dues in the top description.
ashen warren
WHaT dID I NoTs fIXS
heady comet
@ebon mortar Fab said there will be hotkeys to disable/enable it
ashen warren
The letter swap is so unnoticeable that I seriously missed it
vague olive
Dont make suggestions for things that aren't ingame yet.
ebon mortar
Thank you Apple
sudden quail
Okay now I'm satisfied.
heady comet
Tbh brimbo should make the female hurt noise when she gets hit
ashen warren
Why? She’s an elemental
heady comet
With that reasoning i dont believe shes a moth either
sudden quail
Interesting, but players could easily cheese it by offing themselves whenever they need to use it.
Maybe give it a debuff that prevents use of it, which persists after death (if that's possible).
carmine pumice
as I suggested it's usable only once per life
sudden quail
yes, and I said people could just off themselves when they wanna use another one.
hazy glacier
I’ve always said a birb summon would be cool
but there’s already a summon before and after it
sudden quail
I suggested a Birb Staff that acted as a post-ML Herring Staff back when the bot came to the public, but I don't think it got accepted.
sudden quail
oops
dense girder
@hollow shell thanks love you
hollow shell
(Strange that they weren't already there)
dense girder
@sudden quail
sudden quail
Yup, guess I won't be getting it.
dense girder
delete your suggestion it will never be accepted and it takes up space
hazy glacier
just don’t meme a lot and be helpful
dense girder
yeah never getting it either
ashen warren
don't meme a lot 
dense girder
@fresh robin could you please not split up your suggestions into five separate lines so that other suggestions are buried
quiet abyss
...Not even a min and both of the throwing weapons ideas of mine got 3 stars already O_o
vague olive
Ok im working on the layout of the suggestions help guide. Should I have a guide for making general suggestions, different guides for different types or a mix between the two
I can give more detail if you want
quasi fable
Yes
hazy glacier
Yes
quasi fable
If you like throwing
quiet abyss
Mhm lately throwing is becoming my most fav class.
dense girder
Throwing's got nice weapons but needs more accessories imo
hazy glacier
Fargos has good throwing stuff
quiet abyss
Throwing lacks good post-Golem, and post-luna cultist pre-ML weapons. Both of them I already suggested.
The sunlight spear suggestion is just...well, something I want to see ingame tbh
quiet abyss
For ML of course.
Xeroc pitchforks vs ML 
dense girder
honestly I see where you're coming from
there should be more weapons than just 2 per fragment type
vague olive
No answers to my question
dense girder
Gyazo
hazy glacier
👌
quiet abyss
dense girder
3 weapons damn
quiet abyss
True palad is post-Golem but kinda decent, not very viable, especially cause it's short ranged.
Brackish Flask is all the way back in post-plantera...and sucks against ML.
Xeroc Pitchforks deal decent damage I guess, but the aiming requires you to be quite close to ML..
dense girder
smh just use poisoned throwing knives
quasi fable
Claim the sunlight spesr as yours
quiet abyss
I'm still deciding
