suggestions-discussion

[bitter topaz]

that's a bug

[cyan lagoon]

Isn't that what they're trying to do already though

[bitter topaz]

it's still broken though iirc

[dull kite]

yeah I think that’s being worked on

[wide patrol]

Oh

[mighty nymph]

Wait, what the heck is Aries?

Apart from being a Zodiac sign

[cyan lagoon]

he probably means aeries

[mighty nymph]

Oh

[cyan lagoon]

which is post plantera phoenix blaster

[ashen warren]

Wait, where’s the Revengance Hive&Perf accessories?

They aren’t on the wiki

[cyan lagoon]

They dont have one

[ashen warren]

I thought those were going to be added this current update

[lusty idol]

Would the star system have to be changed when there is a considerable amount of people starring suggestions? I.e raise number of stars to send to devs, or have multiple "Cool Dudes" star something to allow users to star.

[ashen warren]

No

Why suggest that anyways?

[paper wagon]

I mean, its not a suggestion, its merely a question

[chrome holly]

Well, it's kinda frustrating not to know if they will do anything with what got accepted

[bitter topaz]

iirc the star amount is 35 total

[golden shoal]

bloodstone not bloodstone cores

cores are the ones crafted

this is about the new caster suggestion btw

[chrome holly]

You should maybe fuse all those suggestions in one ImitableBeatle

[ashen warren]

They drop the cores cause@the cores are essentially bars

And I’ll put them in a document eventually

[chrome holly]

P.S. it's cosmilite not cosmolight

[ashen warren]

Oh shit

I’ll fix the errors in said document

[lusty idol]

Are the devs still looking for some love for the World Evils (including Hallow?)?

[ashen warren]

I think so

I think my Helmet dropping dudes are good

Any objections?

[paper wagon]

Well, is the Silva one post-Yharon?

[ashen warren]

Yes

Shit forgot that

Fixed it

[bitter topaz]

the ammo melting is a part of the opal's balance iirc

it does stupid amounts of damage

[neon panther]

i feel like its just annoying rather than balance

i can easily counteract it, but i dont want to for convenience sake

[bitter topaz]

it's both, think of the star cannon

similarly stupidly powerful, but with annoying to get ammo

[lusty idol]

Does this look cool?

[ashen warren]

Yes

[bitter topaz]

[lusty idol]

Planning on building up an enemy with that

[bitter topaz]

wrong channel but it looks neat

[lusty idol]

found it online for design reference

Well, they said its better to discuss your suggestion before posting it. That is what im doing.

[bitter topaz]

@gritty crow someone on the dev team needs to program them iirc

someone on the art server sprited them a while ago

[gritty crow]

But they are planned?

[bitter topaz]

same treatment as music boxes

[gritty crow]

Sweeeeeet

[bitter topaz]

low priority, but yes, they're planned

[ashen warren]

Fountains should be easy, right?

[lusty idol]

Purple Abyss Water Fountain, yes please.

[ashen warren]

Dont forget whatever water color Astral is gonna get

[swift wharf]

Holy shit that wolf is good

[lusty idol]

Letting you know that is not my drawing. Just found it online by searching "Corrupted Creatures" and I'm using it for design reference (I dont have art skills)

[ashen warren]

Ooof

[neon panther]

@junior geode null eidolist is kinda op because it would nullify the diving gear, making the player take massive damage since they would be in the lower layers of the abyss

[ashen warren]

Oof

Something tells me i shouldve used a different doc format in suggestion

[junior geode]

@neon panther well one of the reasons for this is to give the abyss another hazard to avoid

[neon panther]

eh fair enough, but make it pretty rare

you should prob explain what the sigils do though

[junior geode]

I'll post the Sigils next

[lusty idol]

Same, I'm using a google document and I dont know if that is the correct way to send it. Also, @ashen warren , did you set your document to where anyone can see it with a link?

It says I need permission

[delicate raft]

@ashen warren bruh seriously

[lusty idol]

yo @delicate raft Sorry for bothering, just need someone to test if my link works

[delicate raft]

Yes it does

[lusty idol]

tanks

[ashen warren]

What?

[lusty idol]

Would it make sense for this wolf to drop the reaper tooth item rarely?

[ashen warren]

Nope

It'd have to be post polter

but it still doesn't make sense tbh

[lusty idol]

Alrighty. Feeback is good.

[ashen warren]

Dav, Thorium does that

[hollow shell]

booo Dav
Thorium already did that

https://thoriummod.gamepedia.com/White_Dwarf_armor

Post-ML thrower shouldn't just be Luminite

[ashen warren]

[lusty idol]

To fit the fragment kinda thing, there would have to be a new fragment and pillar event for throwing.

[ashen warren]

Why

[lusty idol]

It might be okay to use just Luminite and Galactica Singularites. Unless you can use the fragments to craft an entirely new fragment where it doesnt need an event

[ashen warren]

There's no point or space for a new pillar

Having a pillar in the center wouldn't work and neither would having it on either side of the map

[lusty idol]

Yes I get that, but read the other end my sentence. See if that fits or something

Since SCal is becoming a progression boss, would that mean enemies post-SCal be implemented for materials against future bosses?

[ashen warren]

most likely

[chrome holly]

It would work if Thorium was to introduce a 5th too. This way, we'd get to 3 on each sides, which would be balanced, shut up Thanos.

[ashen warren]

I presume dev weapon will be moved post Yharim

[crude quartz]

more likely to be post unknown boss

[chrome holly]

Would "Quasar Pillar" be a good name for a hypothetical throwing pillar? I mean, quasars are super far away, and also they throw things very far, very fast with relativistic jets.

[heady comet]

Isnt that a sacred tools thing

[lusty idol]

Yeah actually

But i think just using the 4 fragments from the pillars to create a 5th red fragment would be cool for throwing

Maybe a Lunar Fragment

Solar, Vortex, Nebula, Stardust, and Lunar Fragments

[hollow shell]

Quasar is already SacredTools's throwing class, yeah

(kinda surprised you haven't heard of that considering how much of a big deal that mod makes of it)

[chrome holly]

I'm not really into modding, I play with calamity as my main mod, + alchemistNPCs and a few minors

[hollow shell]

oof

[lusty idol]

@ashen warren Your recent Google Doc link needs to be updated. You have to set it to "Anyone can access with a link and can view it"

[dull kite]

I’d like to see stuff like the Murky Paste used in more than just 1/2 recipes

[ashen warren]

Sorry

I’ll fix that when I can

[heady comet]

Making glue out of murky paste so you can eat it

[ashen warren]

What are we, 5rh graders?

[heady comet]

*3rd

[ashen warren]

Whatever same school category

[dull kite]

tfw you request stuff for a boss that hasn’t even been added yet

[ashen warren]

What me?

[heady comet]

Gloozma

[ashen warren]

Lol

[lusty idol]

No. the Yharim summon thing

[dull kite]

Gluezma

lolI just walked into a shelf

[lusty idol]

@dull kite I could make my wolf thing idea drop murky paste just for memes. And kind of an inside joke.

[dull kite]

n o m e m e s

[lusty idol]

shit, you're right.

Only "Lul" item is the only meme item.

[dull kite]

and shredder is a meme

and mechworm

[ashen warren]

Mechworm is a meme?

Why is the Destroyer summon a meme?

[dull kite]

dog

[ashen warren]

Cosmic Worm SMH

[dull kite]

its a meme because of all the bugs features it has

[neon panther]

I’m pretty sure he meant staff of the mechworm, not mechanical worm

[dull kite]

the summon from the staff is the meme

not the staff

[neon panther]

Well yeah

[dull kite]

[ashen warren]

Oof

Couldve just said DoG Staff

How do i get the docs to show publicly

[lusty idol]

@ashen warren Go to and click the top right of your document where there is a blue button that says "Share". Click the small "Advanced" text and you should see an option to change it.

[ashen warren]

Okek

Kek done

[lusty idol]

yes it works now

[ashen warren]

Sweet

Thanks for your help

[neon panther]

I’m not the worlds best spriter but i want to try one of them, I should learn how to do enemies

[ashen warren]

I said to DM me

[sleek wigeon]

why would you ever need a shadow key in hardmode though?

[neon panther]

abyss

[cyan lagoon]

deep abyss stuff

[sinful violet]

Go fishing

[sleek wigeon]

^

[cyan lagoon]

and crags stuff

[sleek wigeon]

abyss stuff can just be fished

and crags stuff is just mimic stuff

cobalt sheild, sure

has a billion upgrades

super vital to any build

[ashen warren]

Alternate crafting tree for Ankh shield?

Like, its used in something other than Asgardian agies?

[sleek wigeon]

... why?

no, just no.

maybe cobalt sheild or obby sheild at latest but anhk sheild is a p big investment

[ashen warren]

Calamity is notorious for its farming

[sinful violet]

It's been changing that

Literally the only thing you farm for, you only farm for once, so having to do ankh twice is ridiculous

[lusty idol]

The only thing you would farm for is Cosmilite from DoG.

[reef carbon]

the only thing i farm for is more radioactive bees tbh tbh tbh pls no ban merciless mrrp

[lusty idol]

"to be honest to be honest to be honest pls no ban"

[reef carbon]

yes.

[lusty idol]

hehe xD

[errant grove]

after you beat doggo 3-4 times, its pie xD

[brave warren]

STOP

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren woooah there laddy now hold on

Put it all in one post

[crude quartz]

you can't make boss suggestions

[uneven spoke]

^^^

[sinful violet]

Read the pins, please

[brave warren]

wtf

[cyan lagoon]

Stop speaking in #suggestions-voting

[hollow shell]

Yeah, boss suggestions aren't allowed
Not only that, but it's better if you put all of your information into one message

[brave warren]

absolute nuts

[limber oxide]

hold on let me meme pupper again

[uneven spoke]

why

[brave warren]

please

no more

[limber oxide]

teleports behind you

nothing personnel kid

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren Once again, put it in a single post.

[ashen warren]

ok

done

check suggestions

[hollow shell]

lol thats 2 messages

[ashen warren]

i tried

[hollow shell]

There's an edit button

[ashen warren]

my hands were starting to hurt

[marsh stump]

you type the same number of words

[hollow shell]

anyway
that's a cool albeit edgy idea

would be hard to program but would be cool to see in-game

[ashen warren]

He's meant to be edgy.

I bet someone can make a sprite of him

XD

[brave warren]

signus but he's unrobed

[ashen warren]

Pitch black, tall, one eye. Slim, has tendrils sticking out of him.

Eye is white.

[uneven spoke]

except the fact that it is a boss concept, theres no design of him lmao

[ashen warren]

i drew him, but it's terrible

i tried

[brave warren]

what

[uneven spoke]

um

[crimson oyster]

the stygian weaver everybody

[uneven spoke]

huh

[brave warren]

he actually looks like the master of edge

[ashen warren]

cuz it is

[uneven spoke]

[crimson oyster]

thats mean

jk

[north silo]

hyperin i joined when i was 11 or 12

you're not the only one

[sinful violet]

i'm 4, and get back on topic

[lusty idol]

yeth

i deleted all those things

[sacred thorn]

In my opinion, the crags are kinda bland cause there are only 3 enemies that you can find there where every other biome has quite a bit of different enemies. I think there should be another enemy in the crags, like maybe a mini version of the brimstone elemental or a demonic version of a wyvern. i feel like that would make the crag better.

[cyan lagoon]

Theres already a mini brimstone elemental

...As a pet

[sacred thorn]

i was afraid someone would say that

oh theres a suggestions text area didnt know that thought this was the suggestions

[lusty idol]

A demonic wyvern would be neato

[sacred thorn]

ima post this there

[north silo]

brimling has been a thing so a mini brimstone elemental might not work

[quiet abyss]

They’ll be a thing in the new brimmy fight though

[sinful violet]

yes

[ashen warren]

bew

[sinful violet]

can't wait to kill em

[quiet abyss]

Ya monster

Nah jk ily bb

[sinful violet]

[odd terrace]

@ember plinth Don't you dare take my RoD from me

Maybe increase the damage from 1/7 to, like, 1/6 or 1/5, but not to 1/1

Plus, it would result in a lot of stupid deaths by accidentally using it

Hell, most of the usefulness of it for me is just getting around

Say, underground

I mean, feel free to make it instakill you when overusing it during boss fights, but not all the time

[quiet abyss]

Its mostly to help nohitters me think, since RoD damage DQs the run

[odd terrace]

Slightly convenience nohitters at the cost of everyone's QoL?

[quiet abyss]

Lmao true

[odd terrace]

At most, only change it for boss fights

Or Death

Or Death boss fights

[quiet abyss]

Add rev too, and I’ll agree with you

Gotta think of rev nohitters too, ya know?

[odd terrace]

That was the first choice

But not outside of rev boss fights

obviously

[ember plinth]

I was talking about Armageddon

any damage taken should be instakill, thats why I suggested that

if you use Rod for a second time by accident in a nohit attempt

that really fucks your try

[vague olive]

@ashen warren thats extremely complicated and probably isnt even possible to make for a post ml enemy

[odd terrace]

You're suggesting that they change RoD like that across the board in Rev because it saves nohitters a few seconds every so often by automatically killing them?

[quiet abyss]

Well, better to die from RoD damage, than to think you had nohit the boss, rewatch the recording, and get your hope crushed by seeing RoD damage

But ye I can see that although it’ll convenience nohiters it’ll make everyone else suffer

So im 50/50 about this suggestion

Gonna star it tho

...The suggestion is for armageddon

[odd terrace]

Wait

[heady comet]

Whats the point of buffing vanilla bosses

[sleek wigeon]

ha ha

no. dont just randomly buff crap

das ist nicht gut

[heady comet]

english please

[earnest raptor]

@heady comet make theses more challengable and give rewards by rewansh old bosses.

[odd terrace]

I'm dumb

@ember plinth I processed that as Revengeance instead of as Armageddon

I also didn't see you noting that it was about Armageddon again

[lavish briar]

same

[quiet abyss]

Lmfao

[odd terrace]

my b

[quiet abyss]

Its k

I derped a few times today too

[earnest raptor]

The problem with RoD can be solved very simply: it simply will not be used during the cooldown.

[heady comet]

What if i want to use it

[ember plinth]

think about scal, you're too focused to pay attention to a debuff

[quiet abyss]

That is...well it’ll help nohitters immensely sure, but making it so that nohitters wont be punished for using RoD early might be...too convenient.

Just my two cents

[earnest raptor]

It's solved in WeaponOut: on "Chaos State" with RoD using gear you, instead of teleport, drop hook.

[quiet abyss]

Other modded items arent allowed in nohit if its not vanilla or calamity

[earnest raptor]

So I want the staff not to be used during the cooldown, but not to kill the player.

[quiet abyss]

Unless it doesnt affect the fight or your performance in anyway, like using WoF summoning item from fargo’s

[heady comet]

Also buffing vanilla bosses after a boss is an etheria thing

[ember plinth]

it's just to make it easier smh, also you SHOULD die instantly if you use Armageddon for no hits, so 🤷

[quiet abyss]

^

[ember plinth]

remember that it works only on boss fights

[quiet abyss]

Making RoD unusable during cd however, might be a bit too convenient

[ember plinth]

aye

[quiet abyss]

As then they wont be punished for RoD early

[ember plinth]

you can just block RoD on Armageddon during the Debuff

of course if they change it..

[quiet abyss]

Or time it in your head

6 secs

[heady comet]

^^

[ember plinth]

truu

[heady comet]

Wait isnt it 4

[quiet abyss]

Its around 6 sec...i think?

Lemme check

[heady comet]

Oh its 6

[quiet abyss]

Ye i checked just now, 7

6 i mean

[heady comet]

How do you remove a star

[quiet abyss]

Ask a mod to remove it for ya

[odd terrace]

Reclick the star

[heady comet]

How do i remove all stars from someone elses post

[sinful violet]

OOoooh

that star

[heady comet]

Imo it takes skill using the rod and knowing the timer rather than having it blocked out completely

[earnest raptor]

It's fake complexity: player can die simply because he did not look at the debuff a bit.

[quiet abyss]

Which will then be his fault, since he can just time it in his head whenenver he use it

Its not fake difficulty imo

[ember plinth]

It's like saying Armageddon is a fake difficulty for nohitters

[earnest raptor]

We are all people, from the fact that a person who can make a mistake in a small detail, or an accurate AI, should not depend on the outcome of the battle.

[heady comet]

Nohitters arent people

Can confirm

[ember plinth]

[earnest raptor]

Leviathan is monster, yep.

Big green monster.

Then Armageddon - mode for big green monsters.

[quiet abyss]

Thing is, having RoD unusable when its on cooldown is a bit too convenient for nohitters, while killing them instantly when RoD is on cooldown will punish them by making them try again, yet at the same time preventing them from a mistake of not realizing they had RoD early until they had rewatched their attempts

[hollow shell]

@earnest raptor what

[ember plinth]

Also Armageddon just kills you instantly upon taking damage in a bossfight, it's just to simplify things, you use rod, you take damage, you should die, simple as that

or just block the RoD during the debuff

[heady comet]

lmfao

[ember plinth]

It's not something "Helpful" in general, it only helps nohitters against bullshittery

[earnest raptor]

Prevent bullshit.

[ember plinth]

Armageddon already prevents it

it doesnt hurt to add a new feature to it

[quiet abyss]

However, no matter whether RoD got blocked or instantly kill player when its on cooldown, all nohitters are not safe from Bullshittery...of SCal

[hollow shell]

ok

[ember plinth]

something that was worse before

[earnest raptor]

The smaller the detail (the cooldown of the staff that kills), so it's meaner.

[ember plinth]

random mobs while you're trying to nohit bosses

Zen Potion added

[earnest raptor]

I'm think these not right.

[hollow shell]

Also, trashbox, you should prolly reword "RoD with Chaos State will not be used" to be alot more clearer

[ember plinth]

ay

[hollow shell]

Didn't understand what you meant at all till I looked in here

[ember plinth]

aye

[hollow shell]

... that edit doesn't help much

I meant something like
"trying to use RoD while you have Chaos State will instead do nothing at all"

[earnest raptor]

Edited!

[hollow shell]

aight cool

[heady comet]

Can i have the ability to remove other peoples suggestions

[sinful violet]

you'd have to be mod

and that'd mean your pretty red color going away

[rugged acorn]

make a discord tag red that outranks mod

ggez

[earnest raptor]

Personally it seems to me that hardcore should always be in moderation: a instakill in a collision with a projectile is a good difficult, sensors, because of which the player dies, if not look at them - unnecessary hard.

I'm accept disabling dodge in Armageddon, but making RoD unnecessary careful - not, no, I should have the opportunity to make a minor mistake.

[quasi fable]

@trim raptor asgards

[tired haven]

iirc there is no boss scaling in normal unless it was coded separately in calamity

neither it affects anything but health

[crude quartz]

ye asgard's valor exists in that regard

[vague olive]

Theres no boss scaling in normal mode iirc?

[chrome badger]

Outside of the jungle dragon's speed?

That's the only one I'm aware of

[vague olive]

@earnest raptor why would you need to refight the bosses after theyve been buffed

[heady comet]

^

[hollow shell]

@lethal ledge lol you don't need to kill Lunatic Cultist if all of the devotes die

just warp home and he'll despawn

[lethal ledge]

with all the damn mods i use i tried that and unfortunately to say it didnt work

[ashen warren]

that's kind of your own fault though tbh

[hollow shell]

mh yeah you can't really expect anything good to come out of overloading your game with mods

except maybe a few laughs

[ashen warren]

^

[lethal ledge]

"ultimate meme compilation"

[formal estuary]

More mechanicals bosses

like around mech boss tier aswell

[heady comet]

Lol motherboard

[formal estuary]

yea

-_-

[inner rover]

is the bot back?

[quasi fable]

No

[stoic narwhal]

sees a person who does not read pins

sighs

[strong monolith]

Evan is the suggestion slave for now

[tired haven]

I know it has nothing to do with suggestion but ore is Adamantite

(I like the suggestion itself tbf)

[quasi fable]

Hmmm why are moderators over devs

Well it kinda makes sense

Nevermind

@strong monolith but

Why

If anything, a convebiebt summon item that doesnt kill the guid for wof

Add stars 👶😡

[elder kestrel]

@trim burrow bitch

No meme suggestions

[mighty nymph]

Does any NPC sell the Guide Voodoo Doll?

[dull kite]

there is a suggestion with that already (around 70 stars )

[mighty nymph]

Oof ok

[ashen warren]

lol tailor

clothier

[dull kite]

@elder kestrel shouldn’t you delete the meme suggestion by “lol gay”

[chrome holly]

Random wondering: are there already some suggestions that are scheduled to be added?

[dull kite]

Not sure, but there are lots that I have to add to my doc

[vague olive]

Can you guys stop putting better idea: and just leave your suggestion

[dull kite]

^

also no meme suggestions @deft jasper

[deft jasper]

understood

removed

[dull kite]

thanks

[deft jasper]

np

[elder kestrel]

Evan hate to say this but can you just chill a teeny bit with the minimodding

Actually fugg forgot you're in charge of logging the suggestions

Sorry

[quiet abyss]

Evan for trial mod when tbh

[crude quartz]

too many mods

[elder kestrel]

Oi #general-talk

[bronze comet]

so what do we think about buffing legendaries so I can use malachite vs. DoG

[dull kite]

I will now spam ping alphi whenever I find a meme suggestion

[delicate raft]

@bronze comet no man

[dull kite]

^ I don’t think legendary weapon should scale (anymore) either

@elder kestrel we need stars alphi

[bronze comet]

why

[bitter topaz]

@wooden citrus the argument of DS doesn't really work for an item nerf, every class can shred him

mage has meteorite gear

ranged has the seabow+jesters

melee has any yoyo

summoner has the slime staff

and thrower has spiky balls

[swift wharf]

Oof

You can kill it with wand of sparkling

Wooden bow

Why add a weaker slime staff

[bitter topaz]

you can't do the wand of sparking iirc

too little damage

[swift wharf]

People will use the stronger

[reef carbon]

bc summon class needs attention

according to idiots

who use it

[swift wharf]

^

[reef carbon]

same thing is happening with throwing

[little jolt]

summon is fine for everything but yharon

and you can use the sons of yharon against him now when you kill phase 1

ez

well not exactly ez but you get it

[bitter topaz]

@sacred thorn thrower already has reaver and ataxia armour

all it needs is a decent throwing weapon for the lunar events, which doesn't have to come from a pillar

and a pillar would be ripping off tremor, and why would you rip off garbage

[sacred thorn]

I thought it would be nice that’s all

Oh I don’t know anything about tremor

[bitter topaz]

yeah it has its own "nova pillar" for throwing

throwing just needs a decent weapon for all the pre-cultist but post golem bosses

[sacred thorn]

There should be a fishing class

[marsh jungle]

there is, (technically, but calamity dosent add it in) just use the battle rod's mod

and fishing class could be a lot of things, fished up weapons, or the rods as the weapons

[ashen warren]

an entirely new pillar would be really hard to code i think

@left crag read the pins

[left crag]

just a random thought that came to mind that I wanted to throw in there

[dull kite]

ye, no boss suggestions

[vague olive]

Dont do that please

[dull kite]

[elder sparrow]

Who starred the abyss boss 🤔

[steep island]

@calm temple Why though

Cosmic exists

And its good

[calm temple]

bad dps from what ive seen

[steep island]

It's.. literally what is used alot of the time for scal nohits

[calm temple]

I was just thinking because mages have Subsuming Vortex, the throwers have a very powerful weapon, but summoners just kind of lag behind.

[worthy raptor]

Summons have less damage compared to other classes because they allow you to focus entirely on dodging. The end game summons are good, but since you don't have to pay attention to aiming they're less good damage-wise

[vague olive]

^

[cyan lagoon]

waifus are a dead meme

[ebon mortar]

Elemental Waifu Pets are dev items

If you need more Waifu pet, wait for another two developer join

[austere orchid]

huh, didn’t know that.

so wait, who’s the siren?

[cyan lagoon]

siren isn't a dev item

[crude quartz]

babby siren is a dev item for Gama, along with Siren's Heart

[austere orchid]

i was gonna say that but i wasn’t too sure.

[bitter topaz]

only the green heart is a dev item iirc

[cyan lagoon]

Not anymore.

gama didn't ask for young siren

[bitter topaz]

something implimented for a dev can't suddenly not be

[austere orchid]

tsk

draws sirens all the time so

[crude quartz]

seems odd to try and establish it as such beforehand then

[bitter topaz]

iirc the blue heart isn't classed as a dev item on the wiki

[crude quartz]

its not no

I was talking about babby siren

[bitter topaz]

oh

[cyan lagoon]

Well nobody knows if young siren was gamas dev item

because phupper is smelly and didn't discuss if young siren was gamas dev item

[austere orchid]

smelly smh

[lethal ledge]

2

@quasi fable with Fargowiltas there is a summon item that doesnt kill the guide

its the fleshy doll

[ashen warren]

but you have to get a guide voodoo doll first to make it

wait nvm you can buy t

they mean once you kill wof yoh should be able to buy the voodoo doll from an npc @lethal ledge

[lethal ledge]

?

are u sure

[quasi fable]

No i dont

I mean exactly that flwshy doll thing k guess

But in calamity

Reaso being tha toeoole complained about emblems

People

[ashen warren]

we don’t need cosmetics

mounts are the least of dev’s concern rn

[true crescent]

Any changes I should make for my suggestion I just made?

[bitter topaz]

tbh it seems pretty good

a sentry minion would be nice

[true crescent]

Is the NRG staff still a material in the cosmic immaterializer crafting

[odd terrace]

yes

[ashen warren]

just delete them lol

[sinful violet]

It’s like mud men from thorium

[true crescent]

Delete what?

[ashen warren]

the lunathicc cultist armor

[heady comet]

Having more money doesnt harm anyone

?

Why nerf it

[ashen warren]

yeah honestly

I burn through thousands of plat a reforge

[trim raptor]

Honestly reforging wasn't on my mind when i made the suggestion because I never really do it

[odd terrace]

Because it's a pittance compared to the other loot and a hassle

[trim raptor]

just tone some things down was all i'm saying, seemingly everything drops around 5 gold post ml

[odd terrace]

When you're mowing shit down, 2 per kill adds up really, really quickly

[ashen warren]

you literally just hold shift and click on the item

you can delete them all in 2 seconds

[odd terrace]

PFFFFFFFT

Who enables shift-to-trash

[trim raptor]

isn't that the default?

[ashen warren]

who clicks and drags each item slowly into the trash bin

normie

[odd terrace]

I mean "doesn't disable" ofc

[ashen warren]

why would you disable it

[odd terrace]

I prefer to not accidentally trash stuff

[ashen warren]

not favoriting items

[odd terrace]

It'd be wonderful if it were a pause menu option

Oh, I favorite items like crazy

[ashen warren]

how do you accidentally trash stuff

[odd terrace]

I don't want to risk it when the convenience is not often utilized

I have toggled it back on for Zerg Abyss farming

But that required exiting, toggling, and reloading the world

Idk why it's restricted to the main menu

[hazy glacier]

something that purifies stuff better than the clentaminator idk

[ember plinth]

#suggestions-voting

I already suggested that but ppl told me to download solutions mod, and..

it wasn't really convincional

@ashen warren that's better <3

[ashen warren]

thanks b

[hazy glacier]

That’s kinda why I put it here so I could see if there was a better idea or mod before I suggested it

[sleek wigeon]

mirror?

like pocket mirror?

or ceaseless void?

[cyan lagoon]

magic mirror

[delicate raft]

it's hard not to get a magic mirror imo

[ashen warren]

Unless RnG absolutely fucks you over

[hazy glacier]

is this suggestion worthy?

Pocket Void
basically has the effects of the magic mirror and teleportation potion combined

[delicate raft]

so

It teleports the player to a point near the spawn?

[hazy glacier]

uhhhh

let me rethink that then

[sleek wigeon]

nope, because astral arcanum exists

[hazy glacier]

oof right

[lusty idol]

Would it be cool to have a mirror shield that combines Pocket Mirror (dropped from Medusa) and Obsidian Shield? For some reason a mirror shield makes sense to me. Just to have it combined with a shield.

[round falcon]

but doesnt that like destroy ankh shield

[ashen warren]

Is the bot back up because nobody's said anything about it but many people are still posting suggestions

[sinful violet]

Or just have calamity specific ankh+pocket mirror upgrade which turns into asgards valor.

[brave warren]

evan is logging suggestions

[lusty idol]

Im going to suggest it and see what happens

[hazy glacier]

Could higher currencies be created?

I noticed someone suggested something along the lines of it but

can you do it?

[sleek wigeon]

dont think so

[lusty idol]

Wait, so when you say, "dont think so", that means that it's not possible regarding the means of code? If it is, I think it'd be cool to have at least one higher currency.

[hazy glacier]

that’s my point

it’s the code

could you potentially decrease the value of all currency by 1/10, then create a new one with the value that platinum originally had?

[cyan lagoon]

No

Hardcoded

And modded coins are not currency at all

[paper wagon]

Well

[cyan lagoon]

Just some coin storage shit or smth idk

[paper wagon]

There are Purium Coins in a mod

So I'd assume it'd go along those lines

[cyan lagoon]

They dont function like that though

Its either ammo, or just safekeeping for 999 plats

[paper wagon]

Hm fair point

[crude river]

Does my legendary scaling idea sound like a good middle ground?

[lusty idol]

I dont think they should scale specifically for superbosses. They should scale with progression in the game so it could be viable to anyone who wants to use it.

[hazy glacier]

Isn’t that just the old legendary weapon scaling system

[lusty idol]

Was it bad before?

[crude river]

ye

[lusty idol]

Oh. I wasnt around during the first implementation of legendaries.

[crude river]

You would have no reason to use any non-legendary weapon, because they were always the best no matter what.

[lusty idol]

What is their current drop rate?

[crude river]

1% or something? IDK

[ashen warren]

1%\

legendaries were much rarer , but you get one and you could use it for your entire run

[lusty idol]

Hmm. I did get like 3 malachites in a row and 2 cosmic discharges

[crude river]

My idea is that they still remain relevant for the two final bosses while still forcing you to use other weapons for most of the game.

[ashen warren]

some legendaries like to drop a lot more frequently than others

i killed 20 betsy's and got 6 or 7 vesuvius'

[lusty idol]

With the non-linear update, maybe people dont want to use it because of its overpoweredness, idk. There is a problem with legendary weapons in Terraria.

[ashen warren]

the real problem is that fabsol hated the legendary scaling

[crude river]

And honestly, I did to,

[ashen warren]

you could use shpc against scal

and that was a huge problem

[lusty idol]

I feel the real problem is legendary weapons being in Terraria. An opinion really isnt.

their existence

unless you meant the problem was the scaling, then yeah.

[ashen warren]

the idea of legendaries is really cool

but scaling ruined the whole mod tbh

at least when it was a thing

cosmic discharge used to do 600k dps on a single target with the old shitty gear

[lusty idol]

The Community Accessory is the only scaling item right now, right?

[ashen warren]

yea

but atleast that one is balanced

the other legendaries were absolutely not balanced

[lusty idol]

Yeah, 1 item should be enough. Especially if its an accessory because it makes more sense.

Powerful weapons that require non-luck/chance based grinding are the OP weapons. Legendaries dont really belong.

[ashen warren]

viability for them is there

but you have to get the legendary from the respective boss at the appropriate time

like, kill destroyer until you get shpc , and then its viable for a few bosses

[lusty idol]

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

[muted birch]

How many lore books have been suggested?

It seems like there have been 50

[hazy glacier]

about 9

even terry himself suggested one

[paper wagon]

It is a neat idea though

[sleek wadi]

I'd make it a book that you'd continuously add pages to as you get lore shards. Like you start with a near-empty book that has page 1 and then once you get all the lore shards up to say, EoC then you merge the shards and book to make page 2.

Using the book would open up a UI that displays the lore, as well as the map icons of the bosses used to make that page on top of the page.

[hazy glacier]

Use the search menu and search lore book to see the other lore book ideas

[elder sparrow]

while i feel the same about legendaries, the main concern in a playthrough (especially ones in their first rev playthroughs) is legendaries turning into someone's main weapon that can practically carry someone all the way to SCal. this feature was mainly removed because of that. if one gets a legendary in his/her playthrough it prevents the player from exploring other equipment

[hazy glacier]

Makes sense

[elder sparrow]

they already have some "legendary" element to them because compared to weapons of the same tier they are more powerful

or at least made out to be, there are some exceptions

[heady comet]

Waifus are a dead meme

[rain bobcat]

Then why are they still called that?

Why not just change it to "elementals" in the item descriptions, buff icons, etc?

[sinful violet]

They will be

[rain bobcat]

Oh.

[sinful violet]

It's low on development priority

[rain bobcat]

🙁

I know it's kind of stupid, but a tiny part of me just died reading that.

I remember being around when they were first introduced.

All the cute old sprites and everything.

It was nice.

[sudden quail]

@potent vortex You wanna add a little bit of detail?

[potent vortex]

i'm too lazy of a cunt

[sudden quail]

Ah, very well then. Carry on.

[quasi fable]

Entropy sigil

Whynwould you need mpre

@heady comet waifus are cute imo

[vague olive]

@potent vortex more in depth please

[potent vortex]

cultist :c

[quasi fable]

Ifnyou beat cultist you gdt stardust dragon

And ebtropy sigil should handle cultist right? Idk

[potent vortex]

1 weapon for 9 bosses

[sudden quail]

Twoots

You alright mate?

[tired haven]

If something I'd probably demand for astrum deus worm summon
Though worm summons are not exactly good against calamity bosses

[quasi fable]

Not viable to code lol

Nor*

[tired haven]

[quasi fable]

@sudden quail yes

Did they nerf entropy sigil or something becaude that shit was busted

[tired haven]

Probably unintentionally nerfed because only reason it could be busted iirc was iframe ignore

Normal pierce summons can't deal more than 6 hits per second, limiting the use hard

[quasi fable]

Pbg could drop a better bee summon

Or is that too hard?

[tired haven]

Wellll, it shouldn't be hard to make shooting ai summon

Compared to worms at least

[quasi fable]

No i meant

Too hard fir players

Cuz pbg is possibly the hardest pre cultist boss

Except maybe ravager and fishron?

I see it as
Calamitits, Plant, levi, astrum, golem, moons, pbg, ravager, fishron, cultist

Hope i didbt miss anything

Yrsh maybr astrum deus could use a summon too

But instead of a worm type dummon

Make ot just lots of tiny worms

[tired haven]

Moons are technically preGolem but that's not exact theme
Lots of tiny worms in my bet will lag out game even more than one segmented

[quasi fable]

No way

[tired haven]

Also if pbg summon would be useful only for 1-2 bosses, it's still worth to make

Because of how outdated gear becomes at that point

Also it can be postGolem, crafted from plague cell canisters and shit

[quasi fable]

Right

Then just one

#suggestions-voting ?

@tired haven

[tired haven]

?

[quasi fable]

Look

Is it satisfactory

[tired haven]

I guess? Not a master of suggestions tbf

[quasi fable]

I totally am 😎😎😎

[spiral thorn]

The abyss should also offer a ranged weapon after Polterghast has been defeated.

[tired haven]

Sulphur Acid Cannon

[quiet abyss]

I mean...Ranged has sulphur cannon, though its in sulphur sea not abyss, and it already has a lot of weapons like seadragon, daemon flame, blissful bombardier and telluric glare for doggo

[quasi fable]

Sulphuric blaster

[tired haven]

I consider sulphur sea part of abyss tbh

They are too close in terms of mechanics and loot and everything

[quiet abyss]

Ranged have enough weapons for DoG tbh. All classes do

[spiral thorn]

there is no point to go back into the abyss after Polterghast has been deafeated if you play ranged

there is a weapon for every other class at this point except ranged

[quiet abyss]

Better to suggest a weapon for a class at the point of progression where they lack a weapon to use

Also, no reason? May I say:

Reaper Tooth Necklace

[tired haven]

Should there be the point to go back in abyss to murder one-three minibosses?
And^

[spiral thorn]

hmm, not really

[tired haven]

I can argue with mage having same thing because Eidolic Why is quite controversial weapon

[spiral thorn]

maybe the weapon isn't so good but there is still an incentive to go back there

[ashen warren]

I play ranged and still go into the abyss for the Reaper Tooth Necklace

ranged doesn't need an abyss weapon tbh

Seadragon is already good enough

[quiet abyss]

^

[spiral thorn]

abyss has tons of op weapons for other classes but nothing to hunt for as ranged player. ok, you can craft one with common drops but thats not the same

[quiet abyss]

-> Ton of op weapons

-> looks at eidolic wail

If you dont count just post polter, theres archerfish for ranged as well

[spiral thorn]

yes, pre

[quiet abyss]

Like I said, ranged already had tons of good weapons for DoG

[ashen warren]

Ranged already has a lot of weapons for all stages of the game

[spiral thorn]

there is a weapon for all 5 classes before

[quiet abyss]

No, there’s not. Ranged weapon post polter has been always from mauler in sulphur sea

[ashen warren]

You only want a new abyss weapon because other classes have one. There wouldn't be a reason because those weapons are there to fill in the gaps those classes had. Ranged does not need any gaps filled

[quiet abyss]

^

Like, before throwing had to struggle on dog. That’s where valediction fill the gap

[spiral thorn]

so then pls tell me, where was the point to introduce valediction? or squid staff?

[opal barn]

He just told you

[ashen warren]

Same goes for any other post polter abyss weapon

[spiral thorn]

where was the gap for valediction?

[quiet abyss]

To fill in gaps, cause before post polter abyss weapons were introduced melee, summoner and throwing struggles on DoG

[ashen warren]

He literally just said @spiral thorn

[quiet abyss]

And I had already said it. Did you even read my post?

[spiral thorn]

also unnecessary op weapon at this point

[ashen warren]

Throwing legit had Cosmic Kunai

Leviathan used it as a challenge

[quiet abyss]

Unnecessary....did you even read my post!?

[spiral thorn]

crap weapon

[opal barn]

Saying thagmt when he wants to add an unnecessary op ranged weapon

[ashen warren]

Valediction was needed

[opal barn]

Nice

[spiral thorn]

auto aim, high speed, block ignoring op weapon

[quiet abyss]

I had just said, that valediction, soul edge and calamari fill in gaps for throwing, melee and summoner respectively, cause before those three dont really any good weapons for DoG

[spiral thorn]

elemtal disk wasn't enough at this point

or molten amputator

[quiet abyss]

Did you even read- oh my god I give up

[ashen warren]

look how many ranged weapons are viable for DoG compared to other classes

[opal barn]

Did he just disapprove his own suggestion

[ashen warren]

Pretty sure he did tbh

[quiet abyss]

He did

[ashen warren]

[hybrid notch]

the fuck yall talkin about

[quiet abyss]

Scroll up

[hybrid notch]

oh

so basically

someone cant read

[ashen warren]

Yep

[opal barn]

At least maybe he read the pins

[quasi fable]

Confession: i havent read pins

[ashen warren]

I skimmed them

[vague olive]

Grr..

[ashen warren]

There's only 4 though

[quiet abyss]

Ranged dont have auto aim, dont go through block blah blah blah. First, with holy fire bullets you can aim pretty easily. Second, why do you need to be able to shoot through blocks for fighting DoG? Third, high speed? Holy fire bullets are faster than valediction. All those points he bring up about valediction is just..,

I cant even even

[vague olive]

Fout very importnt pins that everyone should read before posting

[heady comet]

Molten amputator and elemental disk are actually quite good if you hit all the segments

[vague olive]

Does someone want ranged to get more stuff because they found a good throwing weapon

[ashen warren]

lol yes

[quiet abyss]

Prolly

[vague olive]

Epic

[ashen warren]

even though there's like 10 ranged weapons for DoG and like 3 for throwing

[heady comet]

Sulphuric acid cannon is also a thing

[quiet abyss]

He argued that its shit

[vague olive]

[heady comet]

Telluric glare is so good

[hybrid notch]

tfw no-one comments on your weapon idea

[quiet abyss]

Like...just scroll up and read

[spiral thorn]

i didn't

[heady comet]

Its cool but contraversial things are cooler

[opal barn]

Isn't post scal dev items only atm?

[tired haven]

Yes, it was even mentioned in faq pin iirc

[hybrid notch]

yeah but it is kinda changing

[opal barn]

It will be a while though

[hybrid notch]

so i just wanted to get my idea out there

[quasi fable]

It is

[tired haven]

"

• Shadowspec bars are reserved for developer items only. Items that include them in its recipe will be ignored.
  "

[quiet abyss]

Not calamitous essences

[tired haven]

[hybrid notch]

sir you just got beaned

[heady comet]

Bageliah is a genius ngl

[hybrid notch]

[ashen warren]

damn

[tired haven]

Not like essense is bars only rn but my gratz on that oversight

Btw stars when

[ashen warren]

oh sorry lemme get on my uhh fabsol alt and ill star you guys 👍

[tired haven]

[quiet abyss]

...I feel like I wanna suggest a post-golem weapon for throwing.
Cause fighting PBG and Duke with duststorm in a bottle/brackish flask/flame scythe/true paladin hammer is just...

[quasi fable]

Plague canisters @quiet abyss

Make plague cell canisters throwable lol

[quiet abyss]

Nono...there needs to be either a fast throwing weapon that's unaffected by gravity, or a homing one. Since trying to hit PBG or Duke with duststorm, flask and scythe is just painful.
And true paladin hammer ani't that good either

[heady comet]

Throwable ravager pillars lmao

[quasi fable]

Hm

[quiet abyss]

How would you even throw them, they' literally more than 3 times your size

[quasi fable]

Something crafted witg plague canisters is a good idea though imo

@quiet abyss how caan you carry 999*40 of them

[quiet abyss]

I was thinking about that

[quasi fable]

😎

[quiet abyss]

...Eh, I'm free, might as well try to think of something

[vague olive]

Make it come from the martian madness event tbh.

[heady comet]

Smh pbg needs to drop a throwing weapon instead of three useless melees

[quiet abyss]

Made a post-golem throwing weapon idea in like 25 mins lmfao.
Any thoughts?

[tired haven]

Hell yes good

I don't even have anything to add there

[vague olive]

Yeah its p nice

[quiet abyss]

Should I claim it as my Dead Inside item so it might possibly have more chances of getting in

[heady comet]

Not worth it

[tired haven]

waste of title

[heady comet]

Make a meme

[tired haven]

Yes

[quiet abyss]

K then

[tired haven]

Summoner weapon if possible

[heady comet]

Do i still get an item or is the role worthless now?

[quiet abyss]

Ye, untouchable get one too

[heady comet]

Fabs gonna start making items for us at this rate lmao

[tired haven]

There was the "first 5" mention iirc so that's probably why the question

[heady comet]

Number 8 rest in rip

Also separate my name from rebellius'

[tired haven]

Just do dead inside 4head

Or there are 5+ too?

[heady comet]

There are 4

Ein will most likely get it

[patent pollen]

You have peaked my interest

I’m garbage but I like items

[quiet abyss]

...No, I know what you're thinking, and trust me: Unless you're really dedicated, it's not worth it

[heady comet]

Yeah fabs definitely gonna cancel the rewards if it becomes this popular

So many people are doing it now

[quiet abyss]

-> "this easy"

[heady comet]

Im talkin boutt rev

Kek

[quiet abyss]

Ah

[heady comet]

Dead inside is still very valuable

[patent pollen]

Well I never had a soul or a life to begin with 🤔

@quiet abyss any tips on how to die on the inside when you already have :/

[quiet abyss]

, lots of

Also let's stop this is getting into #general-talk or #calamity-mod-talk territory

[ancient dragon]

...We don't.
We don't get the idea.

[vague olive]

@pure vector can you add more to your suggestion since 5 words dosent really give us anything

Read pins in suggestions and suggestions discussion

[patent pollen]

Explain please

[muted birch]

Smh people always just suggest something with no idea around it whatsoever

[quiet abyss]

-> Says one word -> expects people to get it

[patent pollen]

That’s me

[ancient dragon]

That's not a suggestion, and:

"Exogun
Infinity damage
To-the-moon knockback
'It's a fucking gun, dude.'"

Is not a suggestion either.

[muted birch]

Its like saying "Gun (you get the idea)"

[patent pollen]

laugh track plays

[muted birch]

Seinfeld thing

[vague olive]

Also how would it be made

There arent any shortswords after ele shiv

[muted birch]

Simple, he can just suggest "DoG shiv (you get the idea)"

[patent pollen]

Combine every short sword in game I guess :/

[vague olive]

Have you even looked at- no thats not how the exo recipes work

[patent pollen]

Yes I know

Is jokw

[ancient dragon]

Well, I suppose the Lucrecia would be an obvious pick for an Exoshiv.

[strong monolith]

First we need an elemental shiv

We can use a Terra Shiv, the Lucreia, what else?

wait shitt nvm

I forgot there already is one

[ancient dragon]

:RollSafe:

[pure vector]

Updated shiv suggestion for better detail

[vague olive]

So its a.. exoblade but with a different sprite?

Also name what shortswords it would be made of

[strong monolith]

I'd say it should have the effects of the Holy Collider, Elemental Shiv, Lucreia and The Enforcer (or some other good melee wep)

[heady comet]

Maybe submarine shocker too

[tired haven]

Tbh including broadswords is weird but there are only 3 non-material shortswords (Aquatic Discharge, Submarine Shocker and Elemental Shiv)

[vague olive]

Yeah its not really gonna work unless we get more shortswords

[heady comet]

Photoviscerator is only crafted with two flamethrowers so it could still work

[ancient dragon]

NEF support when

[vague olive]

Hm alright

[vague olive]

@covert sparrow what does that mean

Elaborate

[ruby cobalt]

@warm jewel can you uhhhh, not discuss suggestions in #suggestions-voting

[vague olive]

@warm jewel this channel exists

[flat scarab]

do people even read pins

[ruby cobalt]

the fuck are you on about

what are pins

it is unfathomable that such an object would exist in this application

[covert sparrow]

im doing rn a game session (with not only calmity) and i kinda use only summon demage, even sentry summon(like staff of the frost hydra): point is i have 7 or 8 of them and sometimes time im spending on summoning any of them the first i used expires @vague olive

and can get really annoying CAUSE I LOVE SENTRIESSSSS

even sun god staff for example

[restive coral]

@warm jewel Please keep the non-suggestion messages here, thanks :>

[quasi fable]

@restive coral add stars

👶😡

[restive coral]

go away

[quasi fable]

Nuh yh

😤😤

[covert sparrow]

GUYS DONT ARGUE SO HARD

[quasi fable]

@elder kestrel ☹

[elder kestrel]

pls there's other mods

[quasi fable]

😤😤

[flat scarab]

stop with the emojis

[quasi fable]

Why

[elder kestrel]

^^

It's getting spammy

Either way done

[vague olive]

Alright include that in your suggestion @covert sparrow

[covert sparrow]

i dont find my suggestion anymore lul

[vague olive]

Oh rip

[covert sparrow]

it desappeared

[vague olive]

Change that to be a suggestion instead of only an explanation

[steep island]

If there is no suggestion it's being deleted

[sly ermine]

whats the rule about making a suggestion? does it have to be talked about in here first to post or can i go ahead and drop it?

[tired haven]

You can go ahead and correct it after being killed by someone there
If it is good, no one will care to discuss here tbf

[mighty nymph]

@supple rain I suggested a Martian Madness summonning item already and it got over 35 stars, so don't worry

[quiet abyss]

Just don't be like glitchy robot, who at first only says "Exoshiv (you get what I mean)"

[supple rain]

Gotcha

[sly ermine]

a'ight, thanks

[vague olive]

Its a good idea to post it here as said in pins

[tired haven]

Btw important to note that 35 stars =/= suggestion accepted and implemented in mod soon ™

[mighty nymph]

Yeah but at least it hit the mark

[covert sparrow]

is how i wrote it now right?

[hazy glacier]

Magic missile upgrade?

[little jolt]

doesn't that already exist tho

[vague olive]

Flamelash

And the thing from gss

[quasi fable]

Rainbow rod

[vague olive]

Also that

[quasi fable]

I have a fun weapon idea but

It uses the Rainbow gun

And yeah

Already used in one recipe

[quasi fable]

Watch your profanity

[vague olive]

@gritty crow why would the player refight a buffed slimegod

[bitter topaz]

why would you buff slime god

that makes no sense

[vague olive]

All buffed bosses have a new drop

[bitter topaz]

what does he have to offer?

a buffed mana overloader?

[main meadow]

Better is doing a supreme slime god

[fervent zealot]

slime god spawning irradiated slimes?

you some kind of sadist?

[main meadow]

Yeah and they will fall from the sky

[gritty crow]

It has multiple things to offer
One is lead cores
Another thing it could offer is a new sort of gel that is used for post moonlord items that are buffed versions of its original drops

[main meadow]

My suggestion is one super duper slime with biome phases..

Something like DoG 2 phases but randomized

[gritty crow]

Also if I remember correctly Goozma is supposed to be Slime god except it's absorbed everything right? So Slime God buff would kind of show the process of that with more stuff to attack with

[bitter topaz]

that's been changed iirc

goozma's no longer going to be slime related

[gritty crow]

Oh

Well never mind lol

[main meadow]

Meh

Slime would be really good

Cause GOOzma

[bitter topaz]

changed

the original concept was an uber-powered slime god

[gritty crow]

Could drop an infinite slime pouch, counts as slime for both crafting and ammo for flamethrowers

[tired haven]

Gel you mean?

[gritty crow]

Yeah that

[tired haven]

Also for crafting it'd be not possible/quite weird

Same thing as with endless quiver and pouch

[gritty crow]

Then it could just be crafted into 9999 gel

Wait no I've been using mods too much that's not a vanilla stack limit

[tired haven]

Why not just 3996 (4x999) like other infinite items?

[rugged finch]

I like that idea

Would be pretty good to me as I like to make gardens and farm ingredients

[bitter topaz]

an unbalanced mod shouldn't be used to balance another mod

3996 gel is fine

gel isn't that hard to get anyway

[rugged finch]

Yeah, your right

[eager ivy]

i dunno it always felt weird to buy potions

i mean i do it if i just want to farm bosses

[rugged finch]

Yep, feels dirty to me

[eager ivy]

Not sure if its just me though but daybloom searching late game is a bit tideous if you don't have farms set up Q.Q

[bitter topaz]

alchemist is unbalanced because of all the other shit it adds, not because of the brewer

[tired haven]

I can say that if you actually care placing a stack of planterboxes, growing tons of weeds takes no time

[rugged finch]

They made a second mod to get rid of that content

[tired haven]

So bloomstone change is fine

[bitter topaz]

the brewer is completely fine, what isn't fine is all the other garbage it adds

[tired haven]

Main trouble is getting fishes either way

[bitter topaz]

aka the half a million shitty unbalanced weapons

[rugged finch]

But yeah, I cheated in an item to see how it worked and it was crazy good for the stage in the game it was at

The jeweler seems like the most reasonable one as gems are pretty annoying to get, mostly diamond and rubies