#suggestions-discussion
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Point is the evils need more things that set them apart, not things that are near identical.
christ could you people cease doing that
no one cares if people are reacting to your message
gotem
i don't get it 
sigh
odditer, shut, and move.
I am having a discussion with random though
next, offtopic thing and it's a warn
Would it be helpful if I were to make a short list of tooltip formatting/grammar touch-ups? Nothing major comes to mind (looking at you, Thorium), but there are a few minor inconsistencies among tooltips and some places that could use hyphens.
wow this is fun to do
The last two things you posted were a screen shot of "several people are typing" and then "I don't get it
"
y jesus we are in games pray for the moon lord
As in, no one cares if "several people are typing". Now cease.
fine fine
anyways @muted latch how do you suggest fixing the Crimson/Corruption divide?
Suggest pairs of items that aren't clones of each other. That's my critique.
yes verly
Hi
hello
https://youtu.be/0MDqIATHCbE if you need proof
odditer i have a salution make the corrupted one shorter range bigger damag crimson have more range less damag
also i'm seeing stats put up without some mod yelling "no stats, you suggested stats" has that ungodly stupid rule been lifted?
For the armor and such?
or it could just have the corruption one have more raw damage and mana efficency but crimson inflict ichor
for several things
i just put it there as an example, but please remove any really unnecessary things
Like, we really don't need to know things like mana cost, rarity, and sell price
dumbest things are when before the rule was put in place a mod said "why are there so many stats" when there were literally only 2 stats, damage and use time
use time ain't needed either
i just like to suggest stats based on my understanding of how balanced it might be
that really depends
A rough description of how the weapon behaves would be better.
Yes
If it's supposed to be slow, say it's slow. If it's supposed to be fast? Say it's fast.
It'd be better if that had more detail first
bottom line the "no stats allowed no exceptions" is one of the most poorly convieved rules since it kills so much polish, eliminates any kind of stat based accessory, etc
limited stats would be perfect rule but no stats
that's why the devs do the polishing.
it literally says that fab will add the stats
I ignore the "no stats" part, and if you look at #suggestions-voting you can see other people do as well.
give it good description then
I think allowing people to write whatever stats they like and then let the devs polish them should they decide to add it is perfectly fine. There's no reason people can't be creative and think of how their weapon will be. Even if their stats are changed it's annoying to not be allowed to write anything aside from damage, etc.
stats define a weapon better.
That rule was mostly added because people were adding silly things like sell price, rarity, crit chance, use speed, and other shit.
They're not silly at all wtf are you on about
And if it's easier to just have the people describe it, then that was the way it was going to be.
Use time is a base stat that
Use speed is pretty important
^
people can also decide sell price or rarity if they like
use speed of 11 gives you a good idea of how fast.
You'd have no reference point for a good number.
Well there’s a lot of numbers that define speed
This applies to all stats and characteristics of a weapon. People are allowed to detail their item as much as they like. If the devs wants to change it, that's their idea.
use speed of 11 is about 5.5 shots a second.
I chose a Use Speed of 11 because that's slower than a Razorpine bu~~ yeah exactly
5.5 shots a second
Like, say, "A gun that shoots your chosen bullets very rapidly in a fixed, V-shaped spread." "An accessory that provides a significant boost to melee speed but a penalty to damage" "A staff that launches a guided projectile similar akin magic missiles, except the projectile itself fires lasers at nearby enemies" These are valid suggestions, you don't need numbers.
A bunch of stats interact with each other ingame, ie damage, crit, use speed, that you can never test personally. Just describe it from now, and for christ sake, drop the topic.
Mk
Those are fine. Those are simple, base ideas and to add detail is not a problem.
alright sure
We'll leave it up to extreme-level interpretation then.
what is the damage for a melee weapen in post moon lord pre provedance
wrong channel
depends on the melee weapon.
255-400 melee damage on average for that stage
adir #help-advice-read-pins next time.
Yeah
@vital grotto you have a very interesting suggestion. It’s cool, but I’m not sure if it would fit in Calamity
I know
@inner rover I don’t think you’re allowed to talk in suggestions
Oof
anyway, the name "Death Star" is used in starwars
that's literally the point
:/\
can someone react to my seggestion

your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad
other than that it's really hard to even read what you're saying, you misspell 50% of the words
^
wow i didn't think any alss from you
What?
don't play with me stuped
Seriously we have no idea what you are saying you are misspelling words
he's hebrew, be nice guys
it's hard for him to speak english so try your best
especially you, zplo
Mk
also i didn't have so many errors and most of them where just words from the game like the bars
what is a "sulfire" though
"sulfur"?
I admit, I was p harsh about what I said, and I'm sorry for that
but there are a few problems with your suggestion, like:
- Abyss and crimson/corruption aren't related, so it doesent make sense for an item combining them in some way
- We already have plenty swords in calamity, so unless you come up with one that is actually really interesting, there isn't much need
- Most people don't like swapping worlds to get crimson and corruption materials for an item, so that's best to avoid
- Why to you get buffs in crimson and corruption, but not hallow?
@ashen warren it's an interesting suggestion, but it's a bit more complicated than necessary and we already have the helmet sprite and functions done, so i dont see why that should be changed
Mk
It was a very interesting idea that I had
Here’s the concept that I made for the idea, of it ever were to be accepted
8-pack abs on armor 
Shhhh
I’m also thinking about doing a resprite of the current helmets. Something feels off about them that makes them not feel logical at all
The normal sand elemental baby pet and the cloud elemental baby pet ideas have got over 35 stars! In a week, I will repost one of the three, which is the rare sand child (rare sand elemental baby pet). I keep reposting, so I will wait 1 more week before showing it. In the meantime, Cloud and norm baby pets have made it!
Question is: will they be ingame?
They got over 35 stars, so they will be sent to the devs
Now I gotta pray that they make it into Calamity...
Please don't repost things just for them to get the stars...
Fabsol doesn’t like pets unless they are a dev item. Even then he doesn’t like them much
^
I am reposting it by itself. I posted it with all 3 of them at one point
Smfhmh
so there would be no point in keeping that trio idea
Then the same people who voted up the other will have seen that one too.
which means that they didn't want to vote it up.
so no point in reposting.
hmm... Ill just wait a month then.

It got 35 stars. Don’t repost
I've already said, don't repost just for the stars.
^ smh
There is still no point, as it floods the suggestions
If everyone wanted their ideas in they'd just keep reposting, which would be a waste of time.
How long do i gotta wait then? People might forget about the rare pet at some point, then I could repost it again
-_-
Stubborn.
THESE two got the over 35 stars.
This one did not. Do you understand now? This one did not get 35 stars.
Do you see now?
Eye of the Storm really needs a resprite
Eye of the gustling, not storm
As does the Eye of the Gustling and the Pearl
those are cute tbh.
And it’s still kinda of a repost, as the people whom voted most likely expect the other Waifus as well
Come on, I tried on those ones. Besides, the first two made it to the devs
Then they decide if the elementals need mini pets. No need to repost every single one if they've seen the others.
^
They have not seen the Rare Sandy Pet yet on their approved area whatever it is
SOFH
wat
Shake our fucking heads
I have been trying to tell you, I repeated myself multiple times, if this is how this conversation is gonna be, I would rather not continue.
Then don't.
Ok then. No more drama
Just don’t post the rest. Everyone will expect those.
Ok then.
It might not neccicerelly (excuse my occasional bad grammar) be the same sprite I made, it may be different. All i care about is if all the wiafus get baby pets of themselves.
You could have all the waifu baby pets combine to make the Soul of the Elements
which is a pet summon for all the baby pet waifus
in one
or this (hang on)
Sounds like apoths heart of the chibiis
Heart of Infancy...
Waht
All the waifus and their baby pets? I can only imagine the lag 
isn't that a siren light pet
I see that
I guess I gotta leave that up to the devs to sprite
I got it. When I get back into the computer of mine
Wait, make the sprite?
I can make it for all of them if you want
you're willing to Sprite suggestions huh?
HMMMMMMMMM
I have some spriting experience at this point where I’m confident enough to try it
ok then. When you make it, send it to me, I will add it to the suggestions, I will tell the people that you made the sprite, and we will go from there.
:D
Well that's settled
If you don't mind I may ask a small favor for you later
Just 1 tho
Oekke
im glad that didn't end on a bitter note
Tis all good
yup
Sygilin, I wait
Aight I'll shoot you smth in a bit
DM me the favor
blossom flux upgrade? 
You know me so well
XD
Is the name "Heart Of Infancy" still a good name?
Heart of Innocence sounds much better
Soul of the Elements is much better
fargos mod?
I made the name from the infancy of the young elementals
smh fargos
They have a souls of everything at this point
Yeah heart of innocence sounds better imo
and they are children, so infancy? innocence?
Heart of Innocence!
Heart of my ass ew
Heart of Innocence wins
it's boring
Sometimes boring things are good
^
That doesn't apply to Tremor, does it
Nope
ew of course not
It does not
So, I will sprite your suggestion, when I’m able to, then I send it to you
ok sweet.
Flails are nice
Oh we got plenty of those
No we don’t
Oh?
Nope
That’s a Throwing Weapon
I mean, it looks like one, but functions like a chain weapon e.g. KO Cannon
It acts like the one Duke Fishron drops
RE-LOGIC better fix all of their Vanilla sprites in 1.3.6, cause I’m being driven insane by their crappyness
what sprites do you dislike?
Nearly all of the ones from 1.2 and before
alright
example?
SMH
I mean I quite like them myself, but people have different tastes
All of the Hardmode metal armors
whaaa
God spriters are picky 
I like the Solar Armour
Sprites typically should only have 4-6 colors in a single ramp
Both sprite, and stats
And Solar is 1.3
true
As well as all the Lunar shit and Garnite and Marble
and old ones army
I've heard a lot of people say that the Pixcord's best spriters should take over spriting all of Terraria over again but god that's a terrible idea
Oh hell no
Terraria has a charm and bad sprite or not its style is distinguishable
Yes. It can be improved without destroying the classic feel to the game
Yeah! They better stay away from them sprites! They do got their charm! Especially Skeletron
Though fucking dirt blocks have the shittiest sprites in history
I mean, they are dirt, so
I love skeletron's sprite tho...
yes...
He needs a redo because he is the worst
Skeletron looks flat as fuck
I am not agreeing with you mischief
Flat
I'm agreeing with imitable
Offtopic guys
ah sorry
Sorry
Oh right
TOO #general-talk
@ashen warren I think you should add a terra-tier flail since most elemental tier weapons require a terra tier flail
and you should add a post-sentinels and post-DoG tier flail
there was a discussion about a legendary summon weapon yesterday and I just wanted to point out that you can't add a right click function for summon weapons because right clicking with any summon weapon activates minion targeting
so a legendary summon isn't possible
Oh damn your correct
Tbh you could just make right click summon the normal summon and target
And I dunno, but it might be possible or cool to have an extra attack initiate when you right click as well as targeting something.
if you right click while you're targeting (if that's what you mean) it just re-targets to something else close to your cursor
yeah
So it'd almost be like the extra attack from right-clicking would serve as a targeter.
No real reason for there not be a summon legendary other than that it's hell to code
it would be difficult to find a way to pull off a legendary summon weapon with right click that doesn't end being either confusing or really inconvenient when you're in a boss
Damn
Or just, don't give it a right-click
And anyway, it doesn't seem like the targeting things works for some modded summons 
@ashen warren I thought the whole point of the Wulfrum pickaxe was to be a fast start so the beginning game doesn't slog as much
(with low pickaxe power)
having all the pre-hardmode pickaxes be its speed would make it not special
lose its purpose
Yes, but I noticed how slow higher pickaxes are compared to it
after playing through calamity as a summoner up to moon lord I can confirm that either it doesn't work/barely works with modded weapons or the minion targeting AI just isn't the best in general
whoa that was quick.
minion targetting sucks in vanilla iirc
speedran calamity in 10 mins 
short version: me and my cousin were doing co-op and he was over for his break and he had to leave but we got up to the celestial event
in four days we played 27 hours 
In a vanilla a while ago my friend was AFK, we'd just gotten into hardmode. My best weapon was a demon scythe and second night Prime spawned. I had to fend the metal fucker off until about midnight when Captain Cunt returned from being AFK and actually helped. We beat him before 4:30am and I nearly had a heart attack 
okay this is turning into #general-talk thanks to me
@true crescent they are an emoji
I know that but I wasn’t paying attention when they appeared
I reworked exoblades attack
@sinful violet and I-AM-DEAD, unreact the star from the latest latest message
the star's gotta be on the suggestion itself for it to work
ono oops
Lol
Perfect

What r the stars 4 anyway?
Get 35 and the bot will post it onto a dev channel
And then you have high chances of getting it in
Well I hope my suggestion gets enough stars
And shit I have bad timing
if you don't get enough stars and really want something in, just nohit all the bosses and make it your untouchable reward
I think I’ll just pay Leviathan to do that
XD
He’s 50 times better at that than me that’s 4 sure
I don’t have a good enough processor or enough RAM
I play on a surface pro laptop
I want more people to Star my idea, I really want the devs to put it in the game
That’s up for them to decide. Not us sadly
I never Star my shit, as I’m an honest man
Shouldn’t your star count too?
it does
It does, I just don’t because it’s essentially voting for yourself
pretty much everyone does it beatle, you're fine
;-;
wait does everyone do it or am i just an awful person HMMMM
I did it
Idk
:/\
Im in a car using data, waiting to get to the next hotel so I can actually do shit
Love life
U travel?
I’m currently moving
New house new people to tell about the calamity mod
Ok first off let’s take this talk to #general-talk so we don’t get in trouble XD
Ok
@ashen warren mourningstar is a post-dog flail, and not all elemental weapons require a terra weapon, such as the ele disk. a post sentinel is also too close to a dog tier flail imo
i see
Do either of u like my idea
its interesting
some of them seem super overpowered for some things however
like
infinite piercing is crazy
@bold birch 50% is kinda high. I'd recommend 25% normal / 35% expert.
@bold birch 50% is too high
Spider staff is like that right?
those things
yup
iirc spiders are 0.75
more summons
tfw you didn't know minion slots existed until joining the calam discord
Yes
summons 20 herring
only in 1.3 though after looking it up
1.3 was when summoner became viable yeah
subjugators are fun
I honestly think it should be crafted out of the slime staff and pink gel some point mid prehardmode
what
Instead of being dropped by the actual pinky itself have it craftable out of something pinky drops
slime staff + pink gel?
Look at the most recent suggestion
@dense girder Ichor bat should be Fleshy Bat
I considered that but it sounds kinda ehhhh to me
Well people think of Ichor as the go to Crimson thing and mostly forget about it’s other qualities
Coagulated Bat?
Yes
woo
That sounds gross and works
cosmorain is kinda a bad name tbh
Plus it’s an unnecessary idea
I like the pinky staff idea but thorium already has something like that
;-;
@swift wharf me caring for thorium tho
I love the name 'Pocket HAARP'.
thank you c:
What are we doing?
Wow I’m already half way to getting my suggestion sent to the devs. I’m happy
Oof it went down to 18 🙁
Was it u?
I’m just asking not accusing
Wut
his thing went from 19 stars to 18
Now it’s at 20
oh shit
if i suggest a joke/meme suggestion im going to get muted? 
how am i STILL not warned wtf
Does anyone remember that one suggestion someone made when the Lorde was still in the game it’s was a bunch of copper short swords making a big sword
i would love to suggest a weapon that is a trash can
Danny Devito?!
The Trash Can
Infinite throwing damage
Throw it at enemies to delete their files from your game
Only works when you have the Trash Toga equipped
which is a 0.01% chance drop from SCal
and cannot be gotten in Cheat Sheet
50% more dmg whit trash toga
it's already infinite
Magnum condom "equipable"
Increases the dmg of the trash cans
Without anything: Deletes their files
With Toga: Deletes the game
With Condom: Deletes the mod the enemy is from
With Toga and Condom: Deletes the mod from existence
Crashes the game
And the crash mesage you get is: Suicide is badass
Why is Internet Explorer on my computer?!
With Toga and Condom and 999 Garbage: Deletes Drew and Uncle Danny
why do we use ⭐?
Whit all that= oneshots every boss
why not 👍 and 👎?
@rugged finch right off the changelog 3 - New boss trophies for Astrum Deus, Astrageldon, and Brim Ele.

Only 14 more people til my right Click Exo Tier weapons Attacks suggestion get submitted
Oh well oops

bruh
Ill delete that lol
ty cash
Make that 13 Stars left
OH SHIT WHY WAS I TALKING IN SUGGESTIONS?!
I’m dumb
@ashen warren Ya done goof m8
yes
Was my goof in the first place :<
35 stars is just a tiny bit too much I think, 30 stars even would be fine
Since there are ones with like 32, 33 stars that have been buried
fair point
Yeah
Like bindable dash, i cri
Anyways, big ol suggestion doc posted
12 Stars left
Make Danny Devito the final boss
a google doc where 30+ star suggestions are compiled
You cant put 👎 ?
I’m just happy that people are staring it
👎 Doesnt do anything though Oiseth
To be fair, most of them dont participate in chats and usually mute every channel except #changelogs and #mod-announcements
^
and what's so bad with 🌟
Does it matter.
people keep mentioning a bot
vice versa

There is
wtf
There’s a bot that sends suggestions that get 35 Stars or more to the dev channel so the devs can see if it’s good enough to be added in the game
what is this bot called
Triv made it
What an odd name
Suggestions bot iirc
Oof, should have posted my suggestion at better activity hours
Also, I don't think a google doc is gonna work.
Dev's probably can't spend all their time combing through it, and anyway, that's what the bot is for.
I think fabsol saw it anyways actually
I dont see the point in Prov's death box anyway
Yeah I agree, Provi's loot box is unnecessarily large.
Also the stuff at that tier is modded rarity and thus treated as white by code
So lava will destroy it
hopefully, if someone sprites a profaned block set, it'd replace the lihzard brick too
Oh really?
Yeah I’ll do that
I didnt know
profaned blocks sound great, now she wont create a damn jungle everytime she dies
I thought it wouldnt be burnt
I mean
the more you know
Once my damn computer works I’ll be making some profaned blocks to go with my furniture
Free temple blocks 
if ya want free temple blocks, howabout looking in the, you know, temple

^^^
Just mine and stocks like hundreds of them after you get picksaw so you dont have to go back there again
this should probably move to #calamity-mod-talk
i don't think #suggestions-voting is working very well
Good suggestions are made, get some but not enough stars and are left to dust as the chat moves upward
11 Stars til my idea is suggested to devs
most people will probably read all suggestions since they last logged on when they do
^
some people will, but not all
Yep I do that too
if not, oh well
god damnit do I really have to go pin that thing I sent yesterday
While a couple curious ones will scroll up and read all they missed
just please dont repost them
@quasi fable whoo
Ye, finally

Also, no one really needs to know what amount of stars they have. If they're curious, they'll go look. And no need to announce your amount of stars either, it gets really tedious really quickly.
^
it's missing my point
my point is that good ideas have the risk of being posted at inactive hours wherein people will post more and more suggestions and people will not notice it. at times like this where it's pretty active it's not a huge risk but at, say, 11am GMT when much of the american people are offline because it's ~1-4 am, there's a risk
i don't even know what i'm saying anymore
i sarcastically overreacted to 35 last night, that's all imma do w/ star announcements
it's 2am and my brain is too tired to work 
Re-read the pinned post odditer.
if its inactive, then nobody else will put suggestions
meaning yours will still be at the bottom once the active hours come
imagine it like this: somebody posts a suggestion that lots of people who would love it are offline and some people who are meh about it are online
how do you know who would love it tho

Does it really matter that much though? Like I already said, devs have plenty on their plate. This isn't so people can have all of their stuff seen by devs. It's to thin out those things.
^
ill stop talking
my brain cant handle this shit rn
imma watch doctor who and sleep
quick question though
another kinda side note but just common sense really:
imagine my bat post got 35 stars and had a chance to be implemented
Protip w/ syg:
Suggesting new weapons and all is cool, but if you really want a suggestion to be accepted, try to find a small QoL thing that bugs you, and put in a suggestion to fix it. That way, its easier for the devs to fix, being a small change instead of a whole new item, and more people will generally like it due to nothing being added they may dislike
if i programmed the bats myself and sent the code would that be enough to get it implemented
since all the work is already done
I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure that it's not a certainty.
if i did the code for smth tho it most likely would be accepted if I claimed it as my untouchable, right?
of course i cant just go and say, "henkhenk i want a sword that does 19847893748374289 damage"
but as long as its semi-balanced....wait
i was going to say smth about not making an OP weapon as a challenge reward
and then i though of terry
I still haven't quite figured out if it was always that broken or if we completely underestimated it for being so retarded
it wasn't that broken before
shore thing
The suggestion discussion is pretty quiet now

Thank you.
Sry
I think coding and spriting my own pinky slime staff would increase the chances of it getting in
Should I repost old Suggestions from before it used the Star System? Or it allowed in the first place?
I’ll repost, then do an original, and then back again. I’ll be sure to post it here first though. Just to see if I can improve my old ones
Or, since chat isn't flooded by talk anymore, just repost it once, please.
Back again as in a new repost
Ye, no problem
Solaris katana from starbound?
Alrighty, here’s a fairly recent Enemy suggestion I made before. I’ve fixed it up a bit since last time.
Valkyrie
———
-The Valkyrie is a Post ML enemy that spawns in the Hallowed or Space Biomes. The Valkyrie looks similar to the Harpy, but with white wings and gold highlights. AI-wise, the Valkyrie acts like a Mothron or Plaguebringer: moving horizontally to the player and charging them back and forth. As well as that, the Valkyrie moves much faster than a normal Harpy and will periodically fire spreads of (homing?) feathers that inflict the Holy Flames Debuff while not charging.
-Drops: 5-7 Feathers, 3-4 Essence of Cinder
you gotta post it in #suggestions-voting lol
i thought this was suggestions when i star'd it
I know, I just wanted to post it here first
am i drunk?
To see if there was any criticism
I want to make it as refined as I can before I post :/
we need more things dropping essence of cinder so it's good
And it is done
cinder is gud
And now I spend a year making my forest enemies and their weapons
The Mothron AI for it sounds amazing. I love fighting them, and the concept itself is really nice.
a upgrade to the nuclear fury before it gets turned into the vortex would be nice
As a inbetween thing
nuclear fury is already usable up to the sentinels
Might wanna build on that and post it to #suggestions-voting instead of just throwing an offhand comment in here.
ez
I could post sprites in suggestions?
@dusty stirrup
To build my suggestion
Along side my suggestion
yeah
Time to search through older suggestions
Kek.
Don't literally ask for people to look at yours smh
I just realized I’ve made like 80 magic items for dnd and half of them can easily be converted into Calamity Item Suggestions
Go for it.
Aaa
yo is there a way to make the abyssal diving suit make a sound wen you touch the ground? 🤔
@lone plume put all of them in a document to get as many in as possible
@stoic narwhal SacredTools has a Weapon that references the Solus Katana.
I pinged you bout his my dude
:D
XD
You're bringing your goddamn star number so often you're making me more and more inclined to remove mine from it. Stop.
Just be a bit careful IAD
@opal barn the sprite for void’s gate could be a miniature ceaseless void
@timber gale Comment on it here.
delet
good boi
Shit, you know what I just realized? Daedalus emblem uses Sniper Scope, so having an upgrade to the Sniper Scope that USES Daedalus emblem is kinda weird
what else to use for pre-prov though
or just change Daedalus emblem to a scope entirely. Cooler than an emblem, makes more sense, and a bit better
@bold birch dude wtf that sprite and name is directly ripped from CosmicArsenal
@vital grotto wtf bro im literally donating cosmic arsenal to calamity
Fabsol is using a lot of my sprites now
I gave it away
you own CosmicArsenal?
You say that like it’s obvious. It’s not.
what
You never joined my server?
Before i deleted it
Or it could of been another guy with the same profile pic
I reworked my vivid clarity idea to make it more unique 4 anyone who wants to see
Also will i get a notification if my suggestion reaches 35 stars
prob no
Well I’m at 34 stars excluding me
I wonder if your star doesn’t count.
4 your suggetsions
well your post is at 36 now
Now will you stop talking about it?
Yay!

smh
Vivid is a skill-based weapon currently. It's very unlikely I'll be changing it.
Yikes.
For me a very unlikely is like a...1 in 1000 chance I'll do it.
#suggestions-voting, but God yes.
that'd be a tad bit op
Starter bag is meant to contain vanilla drops but I suppose sure.
Boomstick?
It might be interesting to have some calamity specific starter weapons
name can be living core
Also ye, boomstick would be op
Just have a weak gun that doesn't count for the Arms Dealer spawn, I suppose.
musket/undertaker maybe
Nah
flintlock
How about the flintlock pistol
Not from starter bag
I was thinking Flintlock, yeah.
too strong
Fair, I'm just trying to think of what guns are good vanilla pre orb
revolver exists, but no
ye
More Chest Loot has the Marksman's Revolver, which is a weak starter gun.
True
Calamity BB Gun starter bag when 
*peashooter
Not suggesting crossmod content, just suggesting to do something similar.
pew
and ye, ik
Blowgun maybe?
but the big problem w/ that would be killing KS of the bat and getting a minishark by like day 2
The early one not the OP one
could make a modded gun that's really freaking weak and start with a few bullets
Yes please.
The one that shoots seeds might work?
Gunner is so underwhelming at the beginning. ;w;
Here’s a solution to that Fabsol: put the Revolver in the starter bag
No me.

I dont really classify the blowpipe thing as a gun
yeah, i suppose the seeds get really fucking annoying
Revolver's too strong.
Ok
Blowpipe isn't a gun either btw.
revolver does fucking 20 ranged damage + ammo damage
Oh damn
revolver would be op as hell
wiki search is a friend...
again w/ the gun thing, if you can get an arms dealer by day one, all you'd need to do is get 20 ropes, kill KS, and boom minishark
also fab could we remove the enchanted pearl or buff it
I can make a quick small gun
oof
Wut?
Equipping the pearl gives chance for new crates and things to be fished up.
There, eat all the shit
:HDfailure:
I suggested to make a gun that specifically doesn't trigger the Arms Dealer spawning condition.
whatabout levi drops?
Lol.
I'm not removing items
making a gun that doesn't do that is easy, all modded guns won't
doesn't the supreme bait and tackle fishing station outdo it though
ohhh
Ill can sprite a gun but just tell me what kinda gun
if it checks for ammo consumption then I can't do shit about it
ok that sounds fine to me then
a handgun kek, but slow firing rate
Doesnt help guns are almost always better than bows
Anything to pleasure you, my Lord Frieza 
Maybe guns have a tag that enables the Arms Dealer to arrive, I think. I’m not smart so do t quote me
Make a specific type of ammo craftable from early game mats?
See Pumpler vs Seabow, and Onyx Chainblaster vs Astreal Defeat
bows are better w/ everything past DoG tho
Lemme edit for a bit to add some restrictions.
I’m questioning where the Exo-Gun went. Gunners are neglected late game. Except for the Mini Gun
"Hi, I'm the Daedalus Stormbow"
Oh god
pfffft
"And I'm here to break the whole game, just get me some holy arrows and let's get to work"
^^^^^^
"Oy look at me, im xenopopper"
The only thing you can do to keep a starter gun from letting the arms dealer move in is make it use special snowflake ammo.
"Feed me chlorophyte bullets"
Just remove Stormbow and pretend nothing happened smh
XD
Lol.
''hi look at me im a Phangasm, capable of killing over 14million yharon health in under 3 minutes"
Chlorophyte Bullets are a rangers best friend tbh
And Phangasm? HAHAHAHAHHA
Try a minigun with Luminite Bullets

the stormbow
one of the most broken weapons in the game
OH GOD
oh no
going offtopic

"And I can only be obtained at the very end of the game"
oof
"I'm here to melt the last OPTIONAL boss"
oof true
rip
yyeeeaahh i suppose thats correct
Phangasm ends with “gasm” for a reason 
"Oh my im the flamebeak hampick"
"Even tho im post golem i cant mine lihzahrd bricks because..."
"I dunno"
Because it's a combo weapon
even better
That's my excuse
"I'm offto- oh

oh no

NO Pls
YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT I'M FEELING!?
that backfired heavily
You want to Nerf the Apoth?
Fab why are elysian wings now worse than tarragon wings lol
Nerfing apoth is pointless
No, worse
Oof
IM FEELING LIKE A TOTAL BARNACLE HEAD!!
Only scrubs use OP gear

Local man fails at formatting.
uh oh
"I no-hit a boss and killed it in under a minute" Congrats, now, head on over to weenie hut juniors

"I nohit King Slime."
“My sensors confirm u r 100% weenie”
"i nohit king slime with a rope, nerf rope pls"
yes, but why is it so spaced out
honestly
Lol
no
also considering blossom flux has a 1% drop chance yeah
if you get it, good for you
If you don't, use something else
Nerf Defiled Rune. 
oh thank you fab
nice repost sir
lol
if you cheat the weapon in then you are sad and I have no desire to speak with you further
no i was referring to the fact that i'd meme-killed rev yharon w/ that thing
took over 20 mins, but still
probably due to double damage issue
now that that's gone rapid-fire stuff is dead
so it needs to be buffed again
rapid-fire is dead
...Why'd you kill my favorite weapon type?
most likely
which means it'll be all the more cool when i do it again
big rip
I'm having leviathan use full dps to test stuff so
If it's too strong it gets the hammer
if not it gets boosted
Hammer me, papa.
n o
no hitting king slime is genuinely difficult when he gets stuck on fucking nothing and instantly telefrags you
nani
for real though I lost 3 times to literal telefragging, no way to dodge
yikes
boc telefrags are even better
hardest to no-hit without cheesing is destroyer
nah easiest was EoC was for me, literally just a running simulator
brb
at least in vanilla imo
making another exogun
Is it cause of laser spam?
because i can
laser spam, probes
ye
i would like to try no-hitting bosses
WE NEED A POLL
destroyer is a laser spam framerate-munching fuckfest that I might never get a valid no hit on because framerate lmao
FOR THE EXO GU TO BE ADDED
but i cant see myself having the patience for that
destroyer is hell rev+ normally
^
Well good luck with that @river bone
What does the SDOTMG stand for?
do you have a potato PC?
expert honestly fine imo
Yes.
mood
I have a surface pro laptop
aye
even on xbox destroyer didn't lower my framerate
Space Devourer of Thots Machine Gun
an upgrade to the Space Duke Fishron Machine Gun
Ah, alright
It’s space “dolphin” fishron machine gun
devourer of thots is a silly name
1.1 vanilla destroyer was the bane of my existance
went from space dolphin to space DoT
Elemental Space Dolphin Onyx Chain Machine Seapigdragon Chain Blaster Machine Gun
If you went melee you were fucked
this isn't terry's weapon pls
oh i always though SDFMG was duke fishron machine gun
Melee is still fucked for destroyer
^
could we move channels

and it would be the same