#suggestions-discussion
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actually that gel thing reminds me...
If I remember correctly there are some post-DoG arrows that are pretty cool but don't quote me on that
vanquisher ye
Vanquisher arrows are pretty great
@sinful violet do it
got it
we need more rocket types
Hmm, would bullets made from cosmilite bars be too much? Holy fire bullets are already very good
^^
You should delete that if you think it's about to become a clusterfuck lmfao
nah, let em come
Huh, that symbol looks awfully familiar
Talk or discuss at least a little about suggestions here before putting them #suggestions-posting please. We'd like for suggestions being sent into the suggestions channel to have at least a few people to agree that they'd like it. It'd save a lot of time.
Badluck, bullets are something we already have for early/mid hardmode
frostspark, hyperius, acid round, terra bullet
that's why I suggested more arrow types
Bullets fall off the map once you hit moonlord though... and most of the hardmode bullets don't even get used besides chlorophyte
excuse me? acid rounds and hyperius are the best things ever
I said most
frostspark and verium are good to swap out between eachother
my friend crushed prime with Frostspark
verium helped me a lot too because they're pre-mech boss homing bullets
Homing = Life
homing's good for killing enemies with no ttrouble
it's usually much better of an idea to swap out to a damage type of bullet for bosses though
Hmm true
Though speaking of homing... I wish the exoblade would have some level of homing on it
Donβt post stats 
he can post stats
they are subject to a lot of change from devs
that guideline was the worst thing to be pinned
rip i dident notes this was the discussions XD
@unique owl Well its meant to help you until you get a more sustainable source of throwing damage ei the merchant
150 shurikens and knifes is plenty enough to defend you from slimes and zombies while building 2 houses
fair point but i think atleast the throwing knives should be at 50
farming nymphs
Implying you dont just kill 1
What are ya doing, not playing expert mode?
it's a 100% drop isnt it?
50% in normal, 100% in all other modes
oh got it
still though, its a 1/2 drop chance
and they arent too too rare to find
if anything, just make it a craft able item
I mean they are p rare naturally, but any standard box farm can get them in a jiffy
lol
I know
(to those who have not seen the idea yet) guys I have put an idea in the #suggestions-voting tab. take a look
i'm sure that they've seen it
35 stars is such a massive number hot damn lol
now it's 33 
Nice
oh crap
Now they're both 34
I wonder if this screws with the bot
Gottem
that's probably good thing to test tho
i was wondering how the bot would respond to that
if the bot spots a suggestion, how many stars does it give out?
the bot sends all suggestions w/ 35 stars to devs
discord members give suggestions stars if they think they're good
? Bots don't give out stars, they send suggestions with 35 stars to devs
oh
Suggestions are posted in the #suggestions-voting channel. People see it. If they like it, they react with a star emote. If enough people like it for it to reach 35 stars, a bot reposts that specific message to a channel only devs have access to.
Also, it'd have to be an insanely human bot to be able to read suggestions and be like "Hmm, this suggestion is good, add a star!"
^ lol
triv created skynet
ono
Well, all I can do is hope to HECC that my pet ideas get 35 stars
ayy back to 35
Sand has 8, and cloud has 6
If it send twice, that'd be quite annoying to devs.
Imagine a post bouncing between 34 and 35 stars for some reason and have the bot repost it over and over
Sorry what?
am i allowed to go to other channels and ask people to check the suggestions tab? I am considering it, but I need to know if it is ok first...
I was pinning something
that seems annoying and pointless Lion
If they see it, then they'll see it.
how did the bot react to a message dropping from 35 then back to 35 atain
No need to let them know.
k
if they want to see it they'll come this way
Syg, do I look like a dev to you
o right

rarted syg
I can barely beat the mod, let alone code for it.
Anyhow, this is straying far offtopic. Discuss suggestions or move please.
How much time do we have before all suggestions become invalid altogether?
i don't think they do
there's no time limit
That we know of
one day, the mod will be complete, right, so we have a limited amount of time to suggest, right?
as long as it gets 35 stars, it should send to devs, no matter how long ago it was
oh
I see ok
It seems the sand pet idea has more stars and will get more stars. The cloud pet idea has not budged from 6 stars. Should I delete the cloud pet idea and wait until the sand pet Idea gets 35 stars before posting again?
Don't just repost things until they get 35 stars or delete things because they don't.
^
If they don't get the 35 stars, they don't. And if they do, they do. We'd like for every suggestion to be considered, but the entire reason this bot was added, was to thin out the things that people would actually really like to be ingame. The devs have a lot of work at the moment, and probably only a few things will be added and worked on from that channel.
^
k
that seems like a pin comment mrrp
Making a dice roll on how many stars your reposted idea will get before being considered or not is pretty weird duty
Upvote my original idea losrrs
I would still lower the chances of the pet drops from the Sand elementals / Cloud elementals.
10% for both seems nice,
Well a couple others wanted the 25%/ 33% drop rate, so...
most pets are very out of the way/uncommon
Iβd stick with 10%
Well I don't want to keep reposting, because one has 23 stars, and the other has 12. I do not wish to keep reposting the same stuff over and over.
You can edit the message above tho
not the picture tho
I would rather stick with even lower like 2.5 normal / 5 expert and 10 Revengeance
The cloud pet feels off imo
19 more for cloud, not 9. oops
Also where there be a pet for the elementals or for the waifus?
There are pets currently for the Brimstone Elemental, and Siren.
And after the sand and cloud are done, I will do one for the Rare Sand Waifu.
you might need to convince fabsol to actually add these (outside of it being a good suggestion cosmetically)
he hates pets etc. iirc and the ones that do exist are dev items
but i hope this gets in because it's a neat little suggestion
why does he hate pets??
something something because they don't actually do stuff something something.... i think
He doesn't hate pets
I would hope not
The bot is broken, I've found a bug
ono
I'll pm triv so everyone doesn't start doing it
OH MAN Sand pet only has 3 stars to go!! oooooooooh boy!
I hope when the bot comes back online, that it sees my sand pet idea. It is ALMOST there. just 1 star to go...
There's ya 35 star
~~due to the bug technically it already reached 35 stars a while ago
~~
WOOOO alright!
Now to wait for the cloud pet idea to reach the same amount...
it is more than halfway there
and to also wait for the bot to reactivate...
are the tests over? (Dont mean to be annoying)
No, the bot tests...
oh ok
the bot will be ready when it's ready
k
So far people are not reacting fast enough for the bot to be back anytime soon
oh...
what does the bot do? im too lazy to actually find what it does myself i havent found the time to find what it does
if a suggestion gets enough stars then it gets sent to the devs
so is 35 the amnt?
Eeyup
currently ye
well, if you're doing tests then just make it like 10 or something, it shouldnt be that big of a change
and it'll make it easier to test it
wait what lmao
so it's at 35 for actual suggestions, but its 5 for the testing sessions?
I only just learned about that a few minuets ago...
so has it been working so far
or is it being a bitch
because with all the tests, i'm getting the idea that it's either broken or you're goin a bit overboard
The bug is fixed, and no, I don't think I'm going overboard
I need to gather plenty of save data and try to load it all at once
so we can upload suggestions again?
k
bot is ready for public testing again i guess
you have to scoll down on the ppl for half your life until you get to the bottom.
@inner rover That belongs in here, not there.
oh oops
I got a better idea
Cosmic
Slushie
Summons a delicous icee to follow you around

just make it oneshot scal 
Apotheosis EX with sotu is enough to cheese scal with minimal effort
Sotu tends to do that yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_crIysz-Y this was made to show off how shit the hit counter is but it also shows off that apoth ex is enough
i did this at five in the morning, twice in a row "Supreme Calamitas will instantly kill the player if they either survive more than twenty-five hits (less i...
Not again with this hit cap please
i adore those tbh
@reef carbon boi, meme suggestions are not allowed
No dumb suggestions either
If you do like my idea, them smack a star on it so it can reach 35
Baby HoTE, the ultimate pet item slot
I will design the Heart of Infancy...
Yeah judt suggested it lol @sleek wigeon
Yeah thats why i mentioned it lol
baby exoblade
yeah the arena removal ability wont be happening.
Keeping in mind, exiting the arena will enrage the brimstone projectiles and make them go faster
I see nothing wrong with making the arena minable then
About the SCal arena... If I come online alone (24/7 server), can I make it disappear?
Use Cheat Sheet to copy paste air tiles.
I don't own the server, and the owner won't put on cheating mods
Well, that's his choice then.
the only fix is to restart it
Reloading the server will make the blocks go away
I will try to ask.
can you delete some of the recent comments in the #suggestions-voting please? It is starting to bury my suggestion...
^
been thinking about spriting some suggestions
Practice, as well as getting a suggestion in
@restive coral the comments that are not meant to be in the #suggestions-voting are burying my suggestion. Can you plz clear it? Please with a cherry on top?
Thx. I appreciate it
Guys, once the baby elemental idea reaches 35 stars, I will throw in the "Heart of Infancy" idea in. But not until then.
We understand you want your suggestions to get starred but please do not beg for stars.
Idnt that already suggested
That's kinda like asking for stars
Get starred π

Wait I was wondering, do the star bot only count the stars on the #suggestions-voting or does it also happen in other channels
Omg lets try
@restive coral ^?
goodbot
π
I'm not this stupid guys :((
Anyway, back to suggestion discussion.
I was only wondering didn't imply you were stupid >;(
@quasi fable what do you mean?
no u
i wanted to use javascript but ended up using python
what, python?
Yep
I wouldn't be surprised, practically everyone knows python now but barely anyone is actually a good python programmer
Im probably garbage
rip
Can i look on the code or is it secret
I'd keep it secret for now
Aw
π±
i swear if i reads that anchorfish suggestion one more time 
seriously though it's a neat suggestion
changing the dash thing to be a bindable toggle would be a god send
since atm asgardian aegis only looks good if you're going for a DoG-styled loadout
Asgards valor is so pretty 
To be honest I'd like to see more themed/cosmetic sets
(reminder in case anyone forgot the elemental baby pet idea since it s kinda buried...)
not really buried
Yeah, i am just worried, is all
people who havent seen it will likely scroll through to see what they missed, and then see it
i hope they do
however, where do the suggestions go when they get 35 stars? is there just some channel the admins monitor that it goes to automatically?
It gets sent to some development channel afaik
It goes to a channel where only the higher devs can access. It will go there and they will see it
i mean, you'd think with the new suggestions/suggestiondiscussion layout, they will see almost all the suggestions anyways 
they are sent there if they are approved
oh ok then
ive posted it a couple times, but the bot allowed me to actually see how popular it was
apparently people liked it
:D
alrighty then
@restive coral Hey, if I delete my suggestion now, because the number has not changed for the last hour, do I wait many many hours before trying again? Or do I leave it?
Can you still suggest things that aren't for the mod in #suggestions-voting ?
or is it strictly for the Calamity Mod itself now?
strictly Calamity only
ok, so if I think "the suggestion bot should delete every message in #suggestions-voting that's more than 2 weeks old and doesn't have 35 stars", where do I say that?
Leave the suggestion, if it doesn't get as enough stars, then that's your answer
although i did see your idea almost reach 35 stars so I'll log it myself
nah server suggestions are still allowed
tally up stars and put the ones with 35 stars in a channel that only devs can see
^
ok cool, should get to actually starring suggestions that I like
so you are logging the one with the 3 elementals in one, ore the Normal sand elemental one with over 40 stars? (Might be a bit of a stupid question)
i'll log the ones you had that got close to 35 stars
so the cloud and the norm sand ones? ok.
(reson for my post is cuz i love the calamity tracks) ignore this post your reading if you dident see the suggestion i posted
not the cloud
oh
the sand child, since it got 40 stars or so
they should add something with π as something that only needs like 15 for it, like if ppl love something, not much of a point to it but meh
looks like the numbers on the trio picture now has 12 stars... If that picture does reach 35 stars, you will log that one?
it being being shot to the devs
oh right
gravi, it could have a sort of bullethell like attack in ohase 3
that perforator thing looks lit
or an aoe thing
A long time ago I posted this in #suggestions-voting and I realise now it's kinda unbalanced
This is meant to come directly after HM and isn't a material
Anybody have any ideas for how to balance this?
lower the dmg crit stats i guess
Nerf it a bit
It's pretty much a stronge yharim's insignia.
recipe needs to be a lot more expensive
Make it a part of the insignia?
+10% increased melee damage
+5% increased melee critical strike chance
+5% increased melee attack speed
- Decreases invincibility frames*
- From 2/3 of a second to 1/3 of a second
Wait. Decrease invulnerability frames?
Now it's just a weaker yharim's insignia.
Like, more damage?
nah, just invincibility last less time
You take damage a bit faster on contact
It's not like the uh
The item thing which removes them altogether
But it makes you take more damage, ye
opposite of cross necklace
^
So maybe don't nerf it too hard?
i think maybe an excalibur
or hallowed bars instead of gold
also dont round to 5s
New recipe: 1 Cross Necklace, 1 Warrior Emblem, 4 Hallowed Bars, 4 Souls of Might
are the souls too much?
maybe 6% to round most weapons to a nice 10, a good bit more melee speed, damage is a bit too high, 12% is from the destroyer emblem, so maybe it needs to be destroyer emblem instead of warrior
but thats good for the recipe
Souls aren't really too much seeing as how you can get easy Might souls from Cryogen (if I remember correctly)
^^
+8% increased melee damage
+6% increased melee critical strike chance
+6% increased melee attack speed
- Decreases invincibility frames
how's that?
now it's a downgrade from mech gauntlet
I see what you mean
But it is sort of supposed to be
Since it's pre-all mech bosses defeated
and as early as Cryogen you can get it
A disposable / temporary accessory really
We already have an accessory that trades defense for attack
Why not make one that works the other way around?
a temporary accessory which eats your emblem that you could've used in a more permanent one
I count inv frames as defense
powercreeped by vanilla 
ah yes, although the glove needsthe destroyer emblem, so if we changed it back to warrior in the necklace, itd be a bit more even
because they are

perhaps I should rethink the weapon entirely
necklace and gauntlet could give something like Battle Gear
@reef carbon 
oof rip ducckles
Thank you.
i keep forgetting to swap channe;s
by the way dav I think that was a super-cool suggestion
But yeah I was thinking of it having an angler hook
ty ;o
why are people reacting with π 
because i wanted them to basically
To enhance their opinion 
tfw it does nothing 
it doesn't 
yeah
Duckles - Today at 18:30
they should add something with π as something that only needs like 15 for it, like if ppl love something, not much of a point to it but meh
If you know how to you could disable normie reactions and make a bot automatically add one star
yeah, but meh
Instead of biome mimics
What if
They were just naturally spawning
normally mimics
i thought the pixcord does it manually
nah
that only spawned in houses
sometimes if the bot is down
can i post my revision of the necklace now
ty
Warrior's Necklace
4 Chains, 1 Warrior Emblem, 7 Hallowed Bars @ Mythril Anvil
Effect:
+15% increased melee damage
+8% increased melee critical strike chance
+8% increased melee speed
Replaces the Warrior's Emblem in Yharim's Insignia recipe
do it
There isn't a point to add stats tosuggestions afaik
good, but it still seems like it needs another effect
Yeah but the suggestion is pure stats
Oh yeah you probably shouldn't add suggestions
thats the only draw of such an item
*add stats
maybe more powerful against enemies with fighter ai
ffs
like 10% more melee damage towards them
tfw drew adds it but it increases magic damage
Stats are fine they just might be changed
I would just type increased melee stats tbh
^ to what ijones said
Warrior's Necklace 1 Chain, 1 Warrior Emblem, 7 Hallowed Bars @ Mythril Anvil Effect: +Increased melee stats
that doesnt sound dumb at all
stats do provide a good framework of what the item is intended to be
yeah
Despatcho my item is now good
brb
would Souls of Might still be too much?
considering Destroyer is generally the first mech killed because e a s y
you'd get both the souls and bars from him
Only Cryogen and then a mech of your choosing
Which can be destroyer, yes
But some people prefer twins or skeletor
I always leave cryogen until after brimstone lel
Bloody worm scarf says hello to that whole idea, too.
Celestial magnet requires souls of might so why not
will chains ever be fully appreciated? they're only used in chandeliers (nobody makes these), watches (make a platinum/gold one once and never need one again), heart lanterns (ah okay), sawmills and grappling hooks (ew)
5 recipes collective 
they can be placed for aesthetic
i use em for the sawmill for boots and a bed
Not everything has to be really useful smh
you never need them after HM #chaingang #chainappreciationmonth
Abyss Gravel is 100% useless but it exists.
will rocket boots ever be fully appreciated? they're only used for making spectre boots
Otherwise I'd have a big complaint about literally every building/crafting interface for specific blocks.
Isn't that only the walls lol
it's too hard to mine
nope
make it mineable with copper picks
why
gravel, sulphur sand and walls all work the same and leak water around them
You can just get a bottomless water bucket 
too hard to mine 
ffffUUCK angler
So is dungeon brick.
You don't need to be going to the abyss when you have a copper pickaxe
awww, too bad they don't
levi does
No point going to the abyss until you get get some good drops
they don't even drop the sponge
kek
wtf

lemme check
DS/AS drop fishing items
Levi drops all the cool fishing shit
the bitch-basic general ones
like hotline fishing rod and such
levi drops the advanced things
Yeah
Recipe browser has created false memories in my brain 
uses recipe browser instead of laggy gamepedia
i have 4gb of ram, keeping chrome opens uses like 300,000kb of memory and lags my game to 5fps from its regular 10fps 
lul
fucking christ

I get 60 until a boss fight
use firefox
@ashen warren on your abyss mimic suggestion, what do you think of it spawning post moon lord?
Well considering all of the abyss chest items can be obtained pre HM
Post moon lord would probably bring better items
but traditionally it's post polter
tradition ech
Post-polter mimic gives full diving gear
tradition isn't always great to follow
You can only get the best items post polter so
gills only extends water breathing lmao
@dense girder sunshine pot?
AlchemistNPC mod potion
tbh having it drop upgraded abyss weapons in HM and then more upgrades post-polter would be nice
fucking ridiculous

95% of your screen is on full brightness when you use it
should be available when you can explore the abyss
Darkness will no longer exist 
what if i am edgy so I call myself darkness and I no longer exist 
it's like Light Hack from cheat sheet
then ur ded

well, i dont know when abyss exploration is possible, but most vanilla mimics appear at the atar of hm
Why would you need a special mimic, spend you're valuable abyss materials on the key, just to get pre-hardmode items
:
"you're valuable abyss materials"
i can only help with info from vanilla, since i havent seen really any cal stuff

abyss exploration was easy pre HM
is*
exactly
I mean was relative to my playthrough
I have the abyssal diving suit and aquatic emblem now
well then, a prehm mimic could be awesome
maybe a bunch of them shaped like pots, with the same concept
they dont drop loot tho 
no shit sherlock 
ye, theyre basically decor
well pots i think is kinda dumb
because they're everywhere
and hard to distinguish mimics from normal
theres not really anything like chests that dont already become mimics
except water chests, but davs suggestion takes care of that
this is a real dumb idea but what about discolored dart traps as mimics
dart traps are already dangerous
upon being startled they scuttle away and shoot darts for a lotta damage
especially poison ones

yeah, i knwew there was some dangerous version, realised dumb once i posted
those exist
lmao
BOHLDORs
god bless thorium for accidently disabling their spawn 
no, BOHLDOHRS are still in
weird
I used syntax error and corrupted my game 


it is actually scarily sad to me

E
nonmoving water chest mimic sprite

uhhh anyways yeajh thats a nice suggestion
DUCKLES
@reef carbon u fool
again darp

but i think he read it
nah, been warned for months
already was

almost everyone is
i am speshel 
warned cool kid club
shut ur fuck vilage
ow
the edge
@fiery nimbus can we not have more spiders pls 
Cig you reenacted history from terraria
2x stronger than black recluse
Enemy renamed from Flesh Grinder to ??? to avoid confusion with the Flesh Grinder previously named the Meat Grinder which was renamed to Flesh Grinder to avoid confusion with the Meat Grinder



Flesh Scorcher
Meat Scorcher, Crimtane Flamer
damn crimtane flamer
that should be a flamethrower
crimmy crawly bou
bou
shut your up
next time yall stray offtopic, i'm gonna have to punish people smh
D:
@fiery nimbus would you like me to design sprites for them? BTW Name for "flesh grinder" enemy, Clot Snipper
changed the name.
We cant rename the "Flesh Grinder" Spider to "???" beacause "???" is taken , so rename the old "???" to "Unknown" to avoid confusion with the new "???" Spider which was renamed to "???" to avoid confusion with "Flesh Grinder" Hammer which was renamed to "Flesh Grinder instead of "Meat Grinder to avoid confusion with what is currently called the "Meat Grinder"
Now it sounds like a dungeon name
sorry, that took me ages to type

Bone Crusher is a dungeon name actually
Im confused looking at that
i read what mrrp said post typing
@fiery nimbus The name for your Crimson version of the Clinger, Clot Snipper
so the cycle is complete
Stop saying Clot Snipper it doesn't work
ill see
Flesh Scorcher
well no
oh ok then. I will think of a different name
piss flamer 
nvm
inb4 everyone reacts with π
π is better than β
the bot doesnt react to it 
i know, i want it to, but it probs wont, but idc
imma still use π
btw dav the eye of cthulu yoyo is terrablade level power
120 dmg roughly
Terra yoyo , oh you mean terrarian
does need a rename
Yoyo themes are always 1 theme behind
Since they are twice as strong
as other things
Why're you still doing the π thing.
technically its 120 damage with good melee gear, usually probs like 85, same with terra blade
Because its fucking duckle
i want to
It's useless and might confuse people
since itd be the frist flamethrower itd be about 10% chance not to
@dense girder Hive mind already has a flamethrower right around that tier.
well, it doesnt have to be useless
No point
do you enjoy making peoples' lives miserable 
i'll go balance it or something like that i guess
i do tbh
I balanced the damage a bit to fit weapons from the same time
e.g. Crimson Rod and Undertaker
it also has a lower chance to consume ammo

i have an idea for a good exsesory degusted shileded brain
cost 1 brain of confution 1 worm scarf 1 shild of cathule 1 royal gel
at an hell forg
@sleek wigeon could you uh
be a bit clearer
i have no idea what you said
or its meaning 
Digested Shielded Brain? Disgusted Shielded brain?
@bitter drift Those accessories already have a use somewhere else.
Hell forge is where you make bars, not accesories
A mythril anvil would make more sense
Anvil or Tinkshop for accessories
anybody have suggestions for my razorpine offbrands? 
do: confused enemies on hit 12% dameg reduction dabble tap to dash dash do ~20 dameg 30% to doage slimes won't be hostile to ya
and crafted in a tinkeres work shop
i can't be the only one seeing this broken-ass english
So what I have gathered, Disgusted Shielded Brain, made with Brain of Confusion, Worm scarf, Shield of Cthulhu, Royal Gel, at a tinkerer's workshop?
why the random 30% dodge tho
opss remove that
It confuses enemies on hits on the player, 12% increased damage reduction, Double tap to dash, 20 extra damage, Friendly slimes?
Is it an alternative upgrade for cotbg/amalgam?
doesn't sound post dog lvl at all
no an up grade to all vanila expert exsesories
o
feel free to balance i'm no good at it
Maybe enemies not affected by confusion get something
You forgot the Hive Pack
^
just call it butcher 2; electric boogaloo
Hive pack increases the strength of friendly bees, and is an expert accessory
that's in source iirc
I like the name
bUt It wAs StIlL tHeRe
aahhh right add the hive pack too and 50% of bees are largers
It is a borderlands reference.
@cunning moss Keep meme suggestions outta there
enemies not effected by confution get ichor when they hit you
???
How can they get ichor if none of the material accessories have anything to do with ichor? Or Cursed Flames?
Meme suggestions?
gtg
the brain is crimesoned so yyaaaa
and i know not all crimesoned thing are ichor but it is a boss i feel the brain have lost potetial
so a recap Disgusted Shielded Brain, made with Brain of Confusion, Worm scarf, Shield of Cthulhu, Royal Gel,hive pack at a tinkerer's workshop
It confuses enemies on hits on the player, 12% increased damage reduction, Double tap to dash, 20 extra damage, Friendly slimes bigger 45% for bigger bees enemies that cant be confused get ichor when they hit you
tfw nobody's added a star to your big good spell idea
does a post polter/dog upgrade to sandsharknado staff w/ reaper sharks sound fun or am i just being stupid again
do it and have it inflict crush depths
because honestly i want a summon against yharon that isn't mechworm
also post-dog because.... yeah that
there is minimal variety when it comes to summon weapons
aight imma suggest that now
reaper sharknado then , giant version of tempest staff idk, those are some ideas
not actual ones, inspiration for new summo
Maulernado tbh
thats what I just said wtf
β’
o no
ah rip guess its portals suggestion now
i think that you shoud remove the endothermic energy and add more nightmare fuel also dameg 350
Haha get ready to lose all youre money
I'll buy you a nose
it has nightmare fuel tho
add more of it
the nightmare is maulers flying everywhere
@bitter drift The brain may be crimson, but it has no ichor. So don't get smart with me kid
How about adding ichor/cursed flames to the recipe
yes i know but i said that at least the big boss that at one point had ichor flowing into it shoud do it
and i want to make it a pre hard mod exsesory
Brain of cthulhu has ichor flowing through it?
No
had when he wasn't dead
Perforator Hive does
yeah
good point
smh tera just posted an idea of another viable anti-yharon summon
Instead of ichor/cursed flames, use true shadow scales/Blood samples
at least we can both agree that mechworm can be bad
I came up with it when I got my dead inside 
oh nice
i shoude
will it be your reward thingy
did nobody like my razorpine spellbook ideas 
can you show it odditer
wait why are you suggesting something that you want your dead inside to be isn't that your choice
I don't care about that reward thing, I just want summoner to be less trash
Lmk what yβall think about my armor set idea
eh true
~~I mean, odditer, you did get a
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Speaking of which, check it out Tera
summoner could use some love
Exactly
I dont like the idea of more armors
EXPLAIN I DON'T GET IT REEE
top notch suggestion
Look at spirits armours
Itβs a neat one though
besides the area between prov and DoG already has 2 armor sets to choose from
Yeah that would be too much
But this one is cooler D:
odditer change the worn tooth to roten chanks
cosmilite minecart tbh
i don't think that's a good idea considering it's called the Toothstorm and it fires worm teeth
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i based it off of the other spellbooks which use 20 of (blank) but sure, sounds good
ok then add 5 worm tooth they are rear a bit
devourers are rare
down to 10 teeth
just make bloody worm tooth accessories ammo
seeing as devourers drop 3-8 teeth per then it's 4 to kill maximum if unlucky and 2 minimum
not so bad
fine also i don't get why in hard mode i think a post skeletron with a good balance
@sinful violet 2 minutes seems a bit long
When was summon knockback ever useful
At what tier would that be Mrrp
Post plantera
mrrp on what stage it
TFW you type 2 minutes instead of 10 seconds without realising
*20
but whattabout SpOoKy ArMoR

smh
I refuse to use vanilla armors in my playthrough
lol yeah i know
not even molten or meteorite?
i know
vanilla hates summoner a lot
And throwing
victide lasts me till aerospec
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If youβd even consider it a class
because summoner technically isn't a class, it became one after summoner emblem but
and aerospec lasts me till statigel
by god who would play just summoner
and from there to cryo
Throwing? What about the Day Break?
throwback to me using meteor armor and adamantium/forbiddenarmor/meteor armor hybrid set
smh summoner is my favorite class
literally only exception is maybe getting titanium for cryo
daybreak is melee damage not throwing
kinda sucks in revengeance since you do way less damage when you don't have the summoning item in your hand / using a non-summoner weapon

I just use statigel for cryogen
But you "throw" it
It's still melee damage
i usually do too but if im feeling bad that playthrough i just decide to go and get it
Who here keeps summons around even if theyβre not actually a Summoner
I always have
yeah ur right
That just takes up dps
nah just one tiny dragon segment tbh
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Why do weapons that have Melee and Throwing variants only have one of them be a component?
Like Empyrean Knives
literally nothing
Why would he know
Fab probably forgot
I need to know 
odditer i said that except the balancing and it being a hard mod weapen i'm good
it isn't hardmode
I personally don't like all these suggestions for new corruption/crimson items that are the same thing except crimson's is slightly better.
poor mrrp
and Random that's because it's how it works
in vanilla Crimson is better than Corruption
my saying post skeletron and it is cost souls of night
thus it should be the same for Calamity
smh the armor I posted is just an example of what format you should probably use
Doesn't mean it's a trend that should continue.
no the EoW is harder in calamity
i have access to the dev server if I have serious suggestions
There should be more things like vilethorn vs rotted fork.
vilethorn vs rotted fork?

