suggestions-discussion

[tepid crown]

i mean they can, the only thing it gives is movement speed and all class crit chance

[indigo yacht]

i think it's just weapons they don't touch

[tepid crown]

theres just kinda

no reason to

[glass arch]

yep

[indigo yacht]

ranger would implode if it lost access to shurikens

theyre a critical weapon

melee cannot have them

[echo leaf]

all roads lead to melee

[spice stream]

how true…

[indigo yacht]

get this eldritch abomination a

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-true-lollipop-gif-8981745150419533958

[grim tusk]

might be able to change it now

we will see

[bronze beacon]

Same here actually

[echo leaf]

it's why I haven't posted any suggestions at all lately

Used up all my good ideas

[hollow marten]

this channel will finally be useable again. glorious days upon us

[idle dagger]

I like majority of my suggestions they just don’t get sent to the devs like ever

That’s fine though

[indigo yacht]

that's why I don't make high quality suggestions because they don't get to voting

i just make dumb ones that I don't particularly care about

and half of them do go to voting for some reason

[ripe owl]

What do you mean, it always has been

[idle dagger]

I will continue to resuggest shimmer cycle for architect gizmo pack components until it actually gets sent to the devs eventually

[indigo yacht]

🙏

[keen zodiac]

also suggest shimmering between light and dark shards bc i don't wanna have to use an entire separate mod just for that

[half imp]

ok

[drowsy plank]

that's like shimmer souls of night and souls of light

they're from two different biomes and it's not like you can shimmer other evil stuff into each other

[keen zodiac]

i feel like the amount of pain in the ass it is to have to make not just an artificial evil, but artificial evil desert specifically warrants it

and for very minimal rewards at that

[drowsy plank]

grand sand shark drops em

[idle dagger]

I feel like every world I end up with an evil desert

no matter how much I want to not

[keen zodiac]

that is long after any of the crafts are useful

[drowsy plank]

fair

i feel like they should just have furhter distribution tbh

[half imp]

I think we already did add a shimmer for them low-key

[olive saddle]

something id like is for the chlorophyte extractinator to get moe use and/or be earlier

would probably be better for that stuff but its chlorophyte

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

hilarious

[olive saddle]

mean

[spice stream]

average

[indigo yacht]

median solos

[errant wren]

mode fans where?

[indigo yacht]

nowhere mode sucks

[drowsy plank]

i just realized something

[idle dagger]

what's that cog

[drowsy plank]

surely

surely it will work this time

[tepid crown]

i mean with someone gone

[errant cradle]

lmao

clever

[indigo yacht]

can we just remove it please!!!!!

or like

make the mechs actually synergize!

[drowsy plank]

that would be cool too

[indigo yacht]

instead of just sort of being there concurrently

[drowsy plank]

i think on last mech in death mode you could prolly make that work

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-mod-terraria-fabsol-terraria-calamity-mod-calamity-gif-25952676

[errant cradle]

we still need to discuss things properly for the next few days dev wise
though yeah i suppose this sugg may have some better odds now

[drowsy plank]

[north oracle]

Instantly makes the suggestion lmao

[frail horizon]

shimmer sand shark into great sand shark

[misty lichen]

u had a better chance asking for it to be removed 😭

[stark locust]

Just remove this “well thought out addition to the fight”

[indigo yacht]

.

[stark locust]

Can we have one of ozzatron fixing the balloon?

[indigo yacht]

truee

[grim tusk]

we have the lotus flower one

[drowsy plank]

they can lock it if they want, im just going with the less extreme option first

[misty lichen]

bad news: the less extreme option gets accepted and the more extreme option never gets in 💔

[frail fox]

Time to suggest removing it myself

[indigo yacht]

Remove the mechanical bosses from the game

there is no saving them

[errant wren]

Rework mech bosses into Evil3
they're like almost there

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-puss-in-boots-eyes-begging-gif-12782006923018843275

[lucid marsh]

Wait really? Please elaborate. I want my vanilla boomerangs and throwables turned into rogue weapons

[whole tundra]

That would also require making a new exo mech
What if we called it Hypnos..?

[prisma sedge]

Bam, exo MoonLord legs

[indigo yacht]

SO TRUE

[ripe owl]

No, that I don't think would be feasible

Or necessary

Like really, why

[prisma sedge]

Also yeah, wouldn't that require for them to be given stealth attacks?

[ripe owl]

Also yeah

Like, reworking Ninja to be a rogue armor set might be within reason

[glass arch]

yeah that much is within reason

[errant wren]

i got it: make those weapons do ranged or rogue damage based on which one is giving you a higher damage modifier

[glass arch]

horrible

the correct answer is

make 2 versions of them

[errant wren]

die

[glass arch]

1 that deals ranged damage and 1 that deals rogue

[ripe owl]

The old ways of Calamity I see...

[glass arch]

no this is a new and revolutionary idea

[lucid marsh]

Yeah I was never happy about boomerangs just somehow being either one class or another depending on if it's a vanilla item

[indigo yacht]

just add more melee boomerangs

simple

[lucid marsh]

Does it need stealth strikes?

[whole tundra]

I do feel like it would be hard to create unique stealth strikes as otherwise we get Lead Tomahawk/Iron Fransisca 2.0

[lucid marsh]

Can't you just make them count as rogue damage, or both that and melee

[whole tundra]

I feel like it's weird to have a rogue weapon without stealth strikes

[lucid marsh]

It's weird but better than having to collect a weapon you don't use to upgrade it into one you do later

Wait that's not really a thing anymore

[frank stratus]

Uncanny appearance

[glass arch]

we do not need dual damage back

[whole tundra]

Enchanted Boomerang could also be moved

[glass arch]

....what

[lucid marsh]

Oh wait yes it is

[whole tundra]

Keep it exclusive to Prismatic Breaker

[glass arch]

prismatic breaker is a donor item so it gets a pass

[whole tundra]

It's an instagrade, which are overall frowned upon

[glass arch]

i wasnt referring to that

[lucid marsh]

See this? This is stupid

[glass arch]

i was referring to whatever the horrible thing is in posting rn

[indigo yacht]

why

just why

[whole tundra]

Not funny

Didn't laugh

[indigo yacht]

what prompted you to think this was a good idea

@lean dock

[glass arch]

@north oracle can we get an exclam or delete here

[indigo yacht]

pretend there was a thought process behind this, come on

[lean dock]

for clarification itd drop as a liquid from thr extractinator and you can pick it up in a bucket,

[lucid marsh]

Ok hear me out: it looks like only three vanilla boomerangs upgrade into rogue weapons and two of them are in the same line. Can we just get those three (enchanted boomerang, flamarang, ice boomerang) as rogue weapons?

[indigo yacht]

right, i forgot calamity players are illiterate

[lean dock]

bro its a shitpost- I'm just taking the piss

[north oracle]

ah, thank you for confirming

[glass arch]

also hiiiii fluffy

[north oracle]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[lucid marsh]

Hi

What do you think about getting vanilla boomerangs converted into rogue weapons

There are only a few of them

[whole tundra]

Y'know, that actually sounds pretty good

[covert zealot]

I do not really have the time to write a proper suggestion, but since the drunk princess is getting removed, make brain of cthulu's tissue samples be used to make the mushroom item that she currently sells, taht gives a massive damage boost at the cost of every single NPC working like brain of cthulu, but rainbow

I can be trusted with that item on pre-hardmode

[indigo yacht]

i don't think that's a valid suggestion anyways because it's considering future content

[lucid marsh]

Oh? They are?

[glass arch]

what sealer said

i.e. the obtainment method for shroom

[lethal zodiac]

Or maybe just a reskin?

[glass arch]

the devs just want her gone

[misty lichen]

feign ignorance and say its a suggestion to make shroom phm

[glass arch]

that is the vast prevailing mentality

[frail fox]

“Make it an astral plant because astral needs content”

[misty lichen]

id fw it

[covert zealot]

that sounds fun

i just like the item a lot, its super fun to play around with since the buff is worth it if you can survive

[frail fox]

Move Odd Mushroom to Grow as a Plant in the Astral Infection

The Astral Infection is a biome that could really used more content, so moving the Odd Mushroom to grow there instead could help with that. The biome currently has no unique plants outside of the monolith tree, having it feel and look rather dull. Having Odd Mushrooms serve as a replacement to normal mushrooms in the biome could help make the infection feel more unique and look less dull, alongside giving it more content that it desperately needs.

Is this fine I'm tired

[errant wren]

works i think

[indigo yacht]

oh wait you were serious

interesting

[frail fox]

I mean

It's not staying where it currently is

[errant wren]

it is an interesting point to make

it feels valid

[frail fox]

It'd need an actual sprite for when it's in the ground which is an issue but yeah

[errant wren]

when isn't "sprite needed" an issue

[indigo yacht]

Remove all visuals from the calamity mod

hear me out

[errant wren]

elsi just proved me wrong

[covert zealot]

Also do gotta say

Astral looks dope, i'd be happy if it gets more stuff

[glass arch]

the nefarious crystal root fire

[covert zealot]

Lowkey wish there was more reasons to stay on astral for longer than 5 minutes because its just so damn pretty as a biome

[novel belfry]

-fabsol when told his bosses should look visually better:

[novel belfry]

I genuinely wish to become a caldev for the sole purpose of overhauling the astral infection stuff

[covert zealot]

Based as hell

[novel belfry]

like I wish I could lock in, learn how to code and shit, and conceptualize cool ways to make the astral infection better

[errant wren]

offtopic but related, here's my strategy for separating the art from the creator:
[character] [did the action]

[stark locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024290467573157921/1376453274626166835/Ozzatron-saved-calamity-from-evil-fabsol-brutus.gif

[indigo yacht]

hooray!!

[errant wren]

yharim created the calamity mod, actually

[crude geode]

Oh the hatsune miku method

[errant wren]

he just did that

[crude geode]

Understood

[covert zealot]

Obviously calamitas created the calamity mod

[novel belfry]

he created the mod so you can kill him

[errant wren]

exactly

[covert zealot]

its in the name

[novel belfry]

[covert zealot]

duh

[crude geode]

Except this time it’s Teto because red

[covert zealot]

calamitas is already ¨jane calamity¨

[glass arch]

nuh uh

[errant wren]

based and true, Jane Bast, based and true

[crude geode]

I’ve had this stupid username for almost two months it’s great

Byeah converting vanilla stuff is still kinda iffy

[glass arch]

it needs a lot of consideration

[oblique birch]

Equanimity won't be using vanilla boomerangs in its recipe anymore

is it the only Rogue weapon that use melee boomerangs

[north oracle]

oh right that was april fools wasn't it lmao

[lucid marsh]

Yes. There are no calamity boomerangs that aren't rogue

[frail fox]

Well there are hammers and hatchets though

(That currently function as boomerangs)

[oblique birch]

then I guess that's it

the only Rogue boomerang that uses vanilla melee boomerangs is now no longer required those

[lucid marsh]

Oh true

Wait but

Rogue also has a hatchet you throw, the enchanted axe

[oblique birch]

It's crafted with Iron/Lead Hatchet

Which is also Rogue

[dense locust]

yknow that nothings stopping you from using them as decor as is right

[frail fox]

Literally

[crude geode]

Yeah it was beautiful

[misty lichen]

this suggestion is so funny

mfw not allowed to use candles as decoration bc they give a buff

[frail fox]

Buff that you have to click to activate too

[oblique birch]

They're literally stations that even the base game use to decorate their shit 😭

[severe sparrow]

I do think that you'd have to resprite the Odd Mushroom to make it fit more in the Astral Infection

since its colors right now don't quite fit it

[severe sparrow]

quick sprite i made for fun of an Astral Odd Mushroom

[frail fox]

Spooky wood

[severe sparrow]

Technically
I used the colors of Astral Monolith

but yeah i see where you are coming from

[coral carbon]

#suggestions-posting message
Doesn't that count as future content suggestion?

[keen zodiac]

what's the parameters of a future content suggestion again

i forgot

[coral carbon]

Screenshot taken from The Calamity Suggestions Guide doc

[keen zodiac]

that's very vague and uninformative

[coral carbon]

Not my fault, I didn't write that doc

[crude geode]

Yes.

[crude geode]

@minor ginkgo See the above for why this shouldn’t be suggested. There’s already likely plans being made for what to do with Drunk Princess and their items.

[minor ginkgo]

Ah, apologies. I was following the prompting of a couple other users, and hadn't seen this suggestion guide.

[crude geode]

No worries

[hollow shell]

Ah good you all told her already

[hollow shell]

Basically, only suggest based on what's in the mod right now

This sugg, for example, was predicated on Drunk Princess being removed, which is something that hasn't happened yet

DP is in the mod currently
And whatever plans the devs may or may not have for her are not set in stone until the next update releases

[keen zodiac]

oh ok that makes more sense

[hollow shell]

👍

[olive saddle]

literally how i did it before learning the doc lol

[indigo yacht]

I'll never understand calamity mod players

[prisma sedge]

I'll never understand calamity mod players

[indigo yacht]

I'll never understand

[gilded citrus]

Ill never

[half imp]

I'll

[humble scarab]

I

[half imp]

take my horse-

[golden sonnet]

Scarlet devil was removed at the request of the donor, it isn't up to us to add it back

[low venture]

awww.

[prisma sedge]

Also, does that count as future changes since the update hasn't been released yet?

[fleet grotto]

i will explode btw fun fact

[indigo yacht]

💥 💥 💥 💥 💥

[crude geode]

It’s not even a reference to flandre

It’s a reference to Remilia

[frail fox]

The sugg to saying to make it a reference to Flandre

[crude geode]

God

[grim tusk]

You are getting something far better than Oneshot stick to replace Scarlet Devil, dw

[olive saddle]

my dumbass read that as a oneshot reference

[gilded citrus]

Same

[olive saddle]

...is there a oneshot reference in calamity yet?

[gilded citrus]

I hope so

[olive saddle]

not saying one should be added, thats a genuine question

id be surprised if there wasnt one yet

[crude geode]

Don’t believe so

[crude geode]

Me and Shade have like. the exact same tastes in games it’s gonna be peak

[grim tusk]

do we tho?

[crude geode]

Probably not but we at least share Limbus lmao

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message The issue with the endgame dps comes from the endgame weapons themselves, rather than the lack of accessories. All weapons except the post SCal and Exos ones are generally good to use so I would remove the first sentence as it's just plain wrong in the context of this post

[keen zodiac]

they're already adding more ranger accessories in sso

[indigo yacht]

didn't this already pass

well, close enough

[river glen]

i mean scarlet devil can just be replaced anyway by smth else... its not like its a static wepaon that hasnt changed

[north plover]

why is scarlet devil being removed?

[boreal lichen]

the former dev requested it to be removed

[north plover]

okay and?

[distant gyro]

its for a personal reason

[north plover]

sigh this is what I was afraid of happening

at this point calamity development might as well cease and you should all just go and develop a brand new mod that has nothing to with calamity or fabsol

[drowsy plank]

the fuck you talking about

it was 4 donor items

this is nothing

[indigo yacht]

there's like 52 devs besides fabsol

or something like that

[distant gyro]

theres a lot of people that connected with this IP

[tepid crown]

"my favourite item got removed, u might as well abandon this smh"

[golden sonnet]

4 donor weapons is nothing and the removal will not affect the mod much at all. Respect their decision to not want to be in the mod anymore

[tepid crown]

[north plover]

i dont even use scarlet devil

removing content because of an incident sets a pattern

[distant gyro]

well, 3 donors and 1 dev item

[tepid crown]

its a dedicated item, the dedicatee asked for it to be removed. calamity respects dedicatees wishes whenever possible

[drowsy plank]

you're right... if things continue this way... we can FINALLY REMOVE ALL THE DONOR ITEMS

[north plover]

and as someone who requested content removed from a separate project (Frackin Universe) and was flat out rejected. Im completely against it for obvious reason

[tepid crown]

and removing dedicated items are part of respecting wishes

[golden sonnet]

Holy shit true!

[indigo yacht]

can we kill dog entirely since it was one of the original bosses

[distant gyro]

content is already removed and replaced on a regular basis

[indigo yacht]

pretty please

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[indigo yacht]

wait wrong gif

[tepid crown]

wrong boss

[indigo yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225030931008847874/1248031376830238852/calamity.gif

there we go

[tepid crown]

old duke hate is so 2023

[drowsy plank]

but old duke is right there

lmao

[indigo yacht]

i just think old duke is boring and im excited to see it get reworked into a boss fight worthy of its really good theme

[drowsy plank]

ture

[distant gyro]

that removal thing is actually so clean

[north plover]

make old duke an irradiated reaper shark with legs

[grim tusk]

OD is right there dude

[prisma sedge]

If we remove Old Duke, the world will crash and burn

[indigo yacht]

you didnt see but i accidentally sent the remove old duke gif originally

[north plover]

a nuclear mutant shark monster

(which makes sense given tier 3 acid rain track title) Nuclear Monsoon

gawd I love that track

shark squid?

(im srs)

[obsidian nova]

Holy crap it's Crab

[keen zodiac]

this is old duke resprite wip

[keen zodiac]

yeah they're a tester

[north plover]

is that dagon?

[boreal lichen]

yes

[north plover]

i love the resprite. he looks more mutated

[spice stream]

dhaegon

[errant wren]

draegon

[north plover]

Kingdra?

[gilded citrus]

Literally yes
It is a dragon

[gilded citrus]

I know why you found this message

[river lily]

yes because i see everything and im god

[gilded citrus]

Doubt

[indigo yacht]

free mod loader

[ashen warren]

funny

[severe sparrow]

look at calamity fables

[drowsy plank]

that literally has calamity in the name

[north plover]

so is it just those 4 items, cirrus, fabsols dedicated content, old dude, then. is their something im forgetting

[gilded citrus]

Old dude?

[drowsy plank]

old duke isn't being removed

[gilded citrus]

Old dukes getting axed?

[north plover]

oh good

[drowsy plank]

no

i dont know where that came from

[indigo yacht]

but if you close your eyes

[gilded citrus]

Ah

[drowsy plank]

so true

[north plover]

this is why spreading misinformation is harmful

[gilded citrus]

This will be peak in 5 fargillion years

Oop ping

[drowsy plank]

anyway yeah a lot of stuff is just getting ship of theseus'd into new adjacent items, but those 4 donos and a handful of very directly tied items to cirrus/fab will also be dying

[north plover]

yeah removing the items very directly tied to cirrus/fab is the right move.

oh I guess the cirrus hidden boss getting axed too?

[gilded citrus]

Probably

[drowsy plank]

discussions around what happens with cirrus are still ongoing

[north plover]

👍

[gilded citrus]

The boss or npc

[drowsy plank]

if the NPC gets replaced with a functionally similar one, the secret boss could probably remain?

unsure

this is all still very up in the air

Broke: Remove Cirrus
Woke: Replace Cirrus with a similar NPC
Bespoke: Replace Cirrus with Jharim from Calamity's Vanities

[north plover]

Jharim is the best NPC ever

[indigo yacht]

charim

[ashen warren]

we have ideas for the secret boss, dw

[drowsy plank]

🔥🖊️

[golden sonnet]

Literally my reaction to the idea

[distant gyro]

i think you might be able to guess what the hidden boss replacement will be

[tepid crown]

perma?

[distant gyro]

yeah

reverse pyrogen

supreme permafrost

[golden sonnet]

Also makes sense because it's cals mentor, or course you would fight him after

[distant gyro]

alicorn on a stick is coldheart icicle after all

its the most logical and pretty much the first arrived conclusion to supreme cirrus' replacement

[fleet grotto]

can it just actually be coldheart icicle this time

[distant gyro]

Yes.

[boreal lichen]

no shot this is how it returns

[distant gyro]

Yes.

[tepid crown]

yes shot this is how it returns

[fleet grotto]

@patent nimbus

[boreal lichen]

incredible

[distant gyro]

hiii

[fleet grotto]

it's so fucking peam...

[drowsy plank]

YOOOOOOOO THE RETURN OF COLDHEART REAL

[indigo yacht]

new boss rush meta

[patent nimbus]

no way

the re-revival of the coldheart

[patent nimbus]

retroactively becomes doze's dev item or smth?

[fleet grotto]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[distant gyro]

no one claims coldheart

actually

[patent nimbus]

then i claim it

[distant gyro]

everyone claims coldheart

[fleet grotto]

returns back to the heart of the community

[distant gyro]

dedicated to literally everyone

[fleet grotto]

[drowsy plank]

unshattered community or whatever

[distant gyro]

reunites them all

[patent nimbus]

Kintsugi community

[fleet grotto]

now since old duke drops shattered community in gfb due to. well.
who would drop the repaired community

[errant wren]

for now we replace all instances of fabsol-related content with chewed up wads of gum

[patent nimbus]

now time to go back to ignoring this server (im waiting til the dust settles before going back to talking here again)

cya

[fleet grotto]

byee

and the smarter decision tbh

[errant wren]

bye person i don't think i've ever interacted with

[patent nimbus]

ping me if you need me ig

[golden sonnet]

Farewell for now

[weary bane]

need me more ranged accessories to consume

[indigo yacht]

(again, didn't this suggestion already pass? and in fact already be implemented? #suggestions-voting message)

[grim tusk]

it is marked with flag

[drowsy plank]

@craggy cave even considering the fact that a suggestion like this already passed, im going to flag your suggestion because it is factually inaccurate and the earlier reasoning would be something more fitting for #1178515062030348308 than here

[craggy cave]

You know, fair enough.

[drowsy plank]

as someone said previously, ranger's damage dropoff is not from a lack of accessories, as the damage options for all classes are mostly the same, it is simply that ranger lacks any really powerful shadowspec options, but shadowspec is not a properly balanced tier yet anyway

[prisma sedge]

Honestly, I think that'd go pretty hard on the wiki page
"This item is dedicated to: The community"

[drowsy plank]

@pure verge explicitly in the don'ts in the pins i believe now

[indigo yacht]

:(

[pure verge]

ah, fair enough

[misty lichen]

what about “make shrine generation more consistent”

like have it always try to choose a granite or marble thats closer to the center of the world

or smthn

[drowsy plank]

that would be fine i think

[errant wren]

make marble/granite/mushroom shrines spawn in the respective minibiome closest to the center, but then make them all spawn exclusively in the outer fifths of the world

[misty lichen]

this is a call for somebody else to do it im lazy

[half imp]

We were actually talking about this two days ago or so

before everything went crazy

nothing decided atm

[echo leaf]

oh rad

[river glen]

i was going to suggest cryogen shield smth cuz it just felt kinda useless ... its like 700 hp in death mode (why is it nerfed?)

i see someone alr sugggested it

i wanted to suggest maybe having ti be useful in a fight rather than smth that dies in 3s

It doesnt feel like an attack or a phase at all and feels like clutter

[novel belfry]

its not getting in... the stars are too low compared to the heavy hitters 😭

[prisma sedge]

It'd be really funny if the Hive Mind vile spit one got sent through

[gilded citrus]

Dont you have to uh
Click the candles
To get the effect

[oblique birch]

ye those are stations

[obsidian nova]

And you can't like, increase it or something?

[distant gyro]

i mean its pretty close to the theoretical limit

the mining speed cap is 70%

but its a divisor

so it actually caps at 3.33x

if you mining speed cap at 100% you just

Yeha

1/0

[obsidian nova]

We do?

[obsidian nova]

My thoughts exactly

[obsidian nova]

Oh sh*t for real? And donation items too? Damn

[gilded citrus]

Nah the dedicated items that are being nuked are being nuked due to the dedicated person wanting them gone
Other then fabsol items yeah theyre getting nuked

[obsidian nova]

Please add violemur

[obsidian nova]

Wdym

[frail mantle]

the donor items are removed cause the donors wanted them removed, not the devs

though scarlet devil and i believe divine retribution are staying because the dedicatees changed their minds once fab exploded

[covert zealot]

wait, which donor items are being removed?

[distant gyro]

its just scarlet devil

[covert zealot]

havent been very up to speed

[distant gyro]

im gonna remove that cus its back

[obsidian nova]

I always thought this was a Evangelion reference

[obsidian nova]

Man I wish the donator items could still be added
I would request it

[north oracle]

There's likely several hundred other people who would also instantly request one
And that would cause some problems with the backlog

[obsidian nova]

Why does this remind me of Junji Ito

[obsidian nova]

No they (probably) meant Dagon
From JJK

[idle dagger]

They’re stillI going through the backlog right?

[frail mantle]

just scarlet devil being removed or just scarlet devil staying

[idle dagger]

As nice as it would be to get a donor item I would not wish another several hundred items to add upon the devs

[north oracle]

The solution is to become a dev instead so you can have a dev item

[dense frost]

I love this resprite sm! It actually puts the idea of evolution in place of Old Duke being an Older version of a Duke fishron

[distant gyro]

staying

[frail mantle]

Duly noted

[indigo yacht]

wait i just realized

since cirrus is dying I can finally make that suggestion ive been wanting to abot lacewings

...unless it's too specific which is possible

[keen zodiac]

cirrus hasn't died yet

hold your horses

[indigo yacht]

she is Going to die

[patent nimbus]

inb4 cal overhaul readds her

[gilded citrus]

You cant make suggestions on things that havent happened yet

[indigo yacht]

i am well aware

[dense ferry]

What suggestion on Lacewings?

[indigo yacht]

dedicated spawn rate booster

[dense frost]

Lice

Lice wings

[dense ferry]

I don't understand why that needed Cirrus dead but sure

[indigo yacht]

bc i dont think anyone would vote for it otherwise

cal players tend to favor brainless inconvenience over actually interesting gameplay mechanics

[grim tusk]

wait cirrus did sell some spawn items

[indigo yacht]

ok i hope this isn't too specific and makes sense

[dense frost]

Scarlet devil vs Violet angel

[indigo yacht]

you could also do this for truffle worms but i want to keep the focus small

[dense frost]

God I hate truffle worms

Ehh

Not too much

[fleet grotto]

i like how this technically isn't breaking the future content rule

[indigo yacht]

:3

i am merely... taking advantage of the situation at hand

[gilded citrus]

Yeah i read it and yeah it doesnt break it surprisingly
-# i think

[indigo yacht]

it's still a completely valid suggestion regardless of whether or not cirrus lives or dies. but if she does die, then the lacewings should go somewhere

[fleet grotto]

doesn't say smth about "well since the npc who sells it is dying" it just says "well an npc selling it is STUPID"

[frail fox]

Same logic behind my odd mushroom suggestion, no need to mention cirrus at all

[indigo yacht]

i don't like the alternative way to get an item just being going shopping

[gilded citrus]

Rod of discord

[indigo yacht]

yep

[fleet grotto]

iirc they're removing that

[indigo yacht]

yeah you have to go FISHING for it now

[fleet grotto]

and they're making it both drop more likely and readding the crafting recipe

[indigo yacht]

cmt is going to die

[fleet grotto]

told ma wife i was goin to the bank. dint say which one

[indigo yacht]

your poor wife

[fleet grotto]

@polar bison guide to critter protection

[polar bison]

I don’t want to have to lug that thing around. Also theres the issue of lightning bugs with that. The hallow has ambient nighttime critters that can take up spawn slots

[errant wren]

net

[polar bison]

Yeah and you can catch the voodoo doll and just despawn the cysts or just use a calming potion

My point is something that just makes them not appear is far easier and less cumbersome

[tepid crown]

remove the first part of the title

[keen zodiac]

L

[drowsy plank]

@polar bison please remove the first part of the title; suggestions cannot rely on previous suggestions for context since there is no guarantee both suggestions will pass

[golden sonnet]

It's either you "lug around" a spawn preventer or the book, either way it's a slot

[frail fox]

I like how it sounds like there’s a super limited amount of space and not an entire inventory + void bag and piggy

[prisma sedge]

Alternatively, it could be placeable like buff candles are, but still a fair point nonetheless

[golden sonnet]

Void bag my goat

[fleet grotto]

Catch them

[polar bison]

Well here’s the thing it isn’t inventory space that’s the issue it’s cumbersome to have to stop what I’m doing to net it and also net the dozen lightning bugs that spawn that I can’t just laser cuz of the guide to critter companionship. It’d just be easier to not have them there to begin with.

[polar bison]

(+Safe and Defenders Forge)

[humble scarab]

do you really need to do smth at night?

[prisma sedge]

Did somebody say...cumbersome?

[errant wren]

i really can't say that it's much of an issue

[humble scarab]

i cant think of a thingto do smth in hallow at night

and you have cosmolight at that point to skip the night

[errant wren]

fricking uh...

gastropods or something

idk

[humble scarab]

i dont think they drop anything

they are just anoying

[errant wren]

yeah exactly

that's the one thing i can think of

that isn't getting lacewings

[humble scarab]

and he said that nighttime critters takes up spawn slots so it means he farms smth

[errant wren]

i don't think there's any real night-specific enemies other than those, not that i can remember

[humble scarab]

is there non consumable summon item for empress of light?

[errant wren]

nighttime hallowed fishing, if that's a thing

i don't think there is?

[humble scarab]

at this point i think its easier to just buy lacewings than making the perfect space for them to spawm

[errant wren]

or, you know

[humble scarab]

there is a reason you can buy them

[errant wren]

just finding them normally

[humble scarab]

ye

battle potion and blue candle is enough to get like 10

[errant wren]

since it's clearly an issue of too many of them spawning

[humble scarab]

fast

obviously you will kill one by accident but you can just save and exit

or use the book

[errant wren]

and not being completely reckless

not that that helps much

but it really is just a non-issue that shouldn't warrant a sugg about it

like the guy that had a skill solution that one time

[humble scarab]

but people want items to disable every single thing that can interrupt you with smth

at this point we can have item which disables hostile mobs spawn

[errant wren]

"remove all blocks from the world"
whenever you want to go to hell, there's always a bunch of blocks getting in the way. by removing them from the world when it generates, we can get to hell easily.

[humble scarab]

but make it as a item like voodoo demon voodoo doll

[errant wren]

we can call it the world hellevator... -inator

[royal tapir]

Like some kind of Instavator

[errant wren]

hi cit can we add the world hellevator-inator update

[humble scarab]

you need to make a suggestion first

[errant wren]

not if i convince cit to do it

anyways

yeah the lacewing spawn preventer sugg addresses a non-issue, and already got exclaimed

[polar bison]

I want cookies

(Also she/her) /nm

[umbral gazelle]

we already have a thing to prevent lacewing from being killed accidentally too

[errant wren]

yeah we uh

[umbral gazelle]

Guide to Critter Companionship

[errant wren]

we said that

[umbral gazelle]

oh

[polar bison]

I’ve said this already the lightning bugs take up spawn slots

[humble scarab]

but for what you need spawn slots

[polar bison]

Gastropods

That drop cookies

[errant wren]

HOW WAS I RIGHT

[polar bison]

It’s the only thing that spawns in the hallow at night

[errant wren]

I WAS JUST MAKING STUFF UP i didn't know they actually had something

then again...

[polar bison]

That and I needed a lot of pink gel

[humble scarab]

and what cookies gives?

[errant wren]

cookies?

[polar bison]

You… eat them?

[errant wren]

so it's food

[humble scarab]

but you want them for stats?

[errant wren]

that's

[humble scarab]

or just cookies

[polar bison]

Calamity adds a pink gel drop to gastropods and that’s my primary reason

[errant wren]

there's other foods

[polar bison]

It’s the novelty of it

[humble scarab]

i dont remember it dropping from them

[errant wren]

and pink gel is

are there not better sources?

[polar bison]

Not really

Pinky but that’s a rare spawn

[gilded citrus]

Cant you just encumbering stone and run around with a net to get rid of the lightning bugs

[fleet grotto]

calamity removes all but a few food buff drops

[polar bison]

Again, it’s just too cumbersome, I’m not worried about inventory slots they just waste my time

[fleet grotto]

usually got through other means now

[tepid crown]

pinky has a 1% chance to spawn instead of one of ks' minions

[fleet grotto]

usually sold by happy npcs

[polar bison]

You guys are missing the point of the cookies I just want cookies for the novelty of it

[errant wren]

could've sworn that qs dropped pink gel...

[tepid crown]

also gastropod also doesnt drop cookies anymore

[polar bison]

That explains a lot

[fleet grotto]

my point is that im pretty sure they don't drop cookies

[errant wren]

[polar bison]

Shoulda opened with that

[tepid crown]

o right she does

[humble scarab]

the lace wings only appears 7:00 - 12:00 pm so you can just use cosmolight

to set time i think

[polar bison]

I want it to be night

[fleet grotto]

it's still night from 12-430

[humble scarab]

ye

[polar bison]

Nonetheless the lacewing is all but a nuisance in the long run, as if your goal is to farm the hallow during the night, the presence of lightning bugs makes it a pain in the ass to use the guide to critter companionship because it results in you needing to run around grabbing them every so often, and I really don’t want to sacrifice the time I have to lacewing spawn time.

[humble scarab]

its like life is without troubles

its terraria

obviously there will be nuisances

[errant wren]

and we're saying that it's not really an issue that people face... ever, really

[gilded citrus]

Also cosmolight can set it to night so your “limited time” isnt really that limited

[humble scarab]

at this point just cheat in

[errant wren]

there are so many things you can do to just avoid the issue altogether

[humble scarab]

if you dont want any nuisances

[errant wren]

what is pink gel even used for?

[gilded citrus]

Not much

[polar bison]

This is a terrible argument?

[humble scarab]

bouncy bombs, dynamite and blocks

[polar bison]

I like pink gel blocks

And the Gastropod banner is fun to build with

[errant wren]

congratulations i guess

[polar bison]

I don’t understand the sarcasm :( rather rude :(

[errant wren]

(sorry there's just not a lot of justification here)

[fleet grotto]

truthfully this is just a problem you can completely negate with the guide to critter companionship. when theres a critter you want to kill, you right click the book and kill it. simple.

[errant wren]

sorry wasn't my intention to be rude

[dense frost]

Bouncy stuff

Quite horrible imo

I never use bouncy stuff other than trollijg

[gilded citrus]

Bouncy boulder

[dense frost]

Yes

[errant wren]

(yeah i never really used bouncy explosives for block-breaking)

[fleet grotto]

Skynamite my goat

[errant wren]

but uh yeah

if you really wanted to farm pink gel, probably just fight queen slime and sell the stuff you don't really need

[dense frost]

Nuh uh

I like the occasional pinky

[errant wren]

pinky can go have a nice day

[dense frost]

Indeed

[idle dagger]

This is the funniest pair of suggestions ever

[indigo yacht]

"make it easier to spawn lacewings"
"make lacewings DIE FOREVER"

[dense frost]

[pure verge]

prismatic bug repellent?

[fleet grotto]

Homophobic Bug Spray

[dense frost]

😨

[fleet grotto]

🩵 🧡

[gilded citrus]

Half the cal community dead instantly

[fleet grotto]

didnt know half the cal community were gay bugs

[dense frost]

Colourless Unravelwalk

Or

Prismatic lacewing

[errant wren]

i mean just look at me

calamity is a pipeline

[indigo yacht]

I don't think this is something that the calamity devs are willing to do

i think they've said that they want the ocean to remain as a small thing and not a proper biome like the tundra or desert

[glass arch]

invalid reasoning regardless

[drowsy plank]

@small adder ocean overhaul is outside the scope of calamity; this is something vanilla will need to do itself

furthermore you did not format your suggestion correctly according to the pinned rules because you really do not need to include a "thank you" at the end. much better to just keep it concise

[drowsy plank]

@turbid zodiac did you not check the changelogs???

[turbid zodiac]

ah where is that?

[fleet grotto]

#changelogs

[turbid zodiac]

appreciate that

[turbid zodiac]

👍🏽

[river glen]

btw wdyt of my suggestion

[indigo yacht]

it's kinda already been posted
#suggestions-voting message

[fleet grotto]

also haven't they already reworked it

making it spawn at a health threshold instead of a timer or smth

[indigo yacht]

no idea but that sounds nice

completely pointless but nice

[fleet grotto]

ok just cryogen

[river glen]

1400 hp is nothing

its dying in like 2-3 s

[errant wren]

i mean, it's twice as much

what tier is cryo normally fought at? i always forget

[crude geode]

Early hardmode, I believe after queen slime?

Clearly the shield should have rdr

[fleet grotto]

post queen slime, same tier as all the other mechs/mech alts

[fleet grotto]

ihave the urge to make a stupid dupid suggest

anyways on a completely unrelated note why is scal's name still. that. Supreme Witch Calamitas. for any reason other than keeping the same acronym

[indigo yacht]

what?

[fleet grotto]

is there a reason for her boss title to be Supreme Witch, Calamitas other than keeping the same acronym (scal)

[indigo yacht]

ohhh

[tepid crown]

witch calamitas

[novel belfry]

I mean, she is a very powerful witch.

[indigo yacht]

aesthetics i assume

[fleet grotto]

but like she already has a title

[novel belfry]

Probably amongst the single strongest.

[fleet grotto]

Brimstone Witch

wouldn't that make more sense

[indigo yacht]

supreme witch sounds way cooler

[novel belfry]

agreed

[fleet grotto]

idisagree personally

but that's me

[drowsy plank]

reading impossible challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[indigo yacht]

no reasoning, future content, and reimplementation

[grim tusk]

@zenith spire read #changelogs and this channel’s pins

[drowsy plank]

^

[indigo yacht]

just make the mod yourself and style it as a calamity addon

[frail fox]

Breaking every rule suggestion

[zenith spire]

Okay!

[indigo yacht]

hey tbf they said they'd do most of the work so the scope is quite small

[zenith spire]

My bad, I have dyslexia and read it as reworked instead of removed lol.

[indigo yacht]

yeah just make an addon. i feel like there are more than a few cal players who would like a trans npc

[fleet grotto]

[indigo yacht]

well

ok that's fair

but i mean mtf/ftm

[fleet grotto]

wtf....

[indigo yacht]

woman to female

[zenith spire]

I will do just that (I have already grown attached and cannot get rid of this character now that I created her in my mind)

[serene tendon]

Agree

[fleet grotto]

iwjust don't think the title "supreme witch" means anything. like she's strong wow

[drowsy plank]

it means she's supreme calamitas

since that is what the boss used to be called

and there needs to be a way to distinguish calamitas and calclone

since currently calclone is just

called "Calamitas"

[royal tapir]

what

She was renamed to Calamitas Clone in 2.0.2

[drowsy plank]

huh

lemme check something

the wiki still redirects "Calamitas" to "Calamitas Clone"

that should probably get changed?

[royal tapir]

Well yeah for historical reasons

[drowsy plank]

hm

fair

still i dont think the title is a bad thing

it's a reference to her original name after all, and it's not like it's detracting from her in any way

i think it sounds cool

[fleet grotto]

i was moreso thinking "Brimstone Witch, Calamitas" since that's just her title . that's literally just her

[indigo yacht]

rename scal to ultra calamitas

[errant wren]

"Supreme Brimstone Witch, Calamitas"

and to be silly, "Supreme Brimstoner, Calamitas"

[fleet grotto]

brimstin witcher

[prisma sedge]

And personally, I'm in love with the idea of having the Calclone NPC itself be named Calamitas, which could make it confusing if both of them were called that

[tepid crown]

Supreme Brimstone Archwitch, Calamitas

[lethal zodiac]

The grand

[fleet grotto]

Supreme Pizza Brimstone Archwitch, the Original Calamitas

[indigo yacht]

ok wait honestly how did this get to voting? it has no reasoning
#suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[prisma sedge]

Or not confusing confusing if it was named Calamitas Clone everywhere else, but it'd be a bit less clear that the real Calamitas is...the real Calamitas at first

[fleet grotto]

how did it even get through if that's what you can use them for anyway!?????

[drowsy plank]

ok actually you have a point

[indigo yacht]

it wants to remove the buffs but does not ever mention why

[errant wren]

True Supreme Deep Deep Dish Brimstone Pizza Archdemonwitch, the Original 'SCal' Calamitas

[drowsy plank]

it wasn't breaking any rules so i just never touched it but yall right

[indigo yacht]

ah well nobody is going to vote for it anyways

[drowsy plank]

very true

Supreme "Don't Fucking Call Me 'SCal'" Calamitas

[fleet grotto]

what is the enchanted axe suggestion btw

[prisma sedge]

SCald

[fleet grotto]

pokemon move of all time

[drowsy plank]

oh god dont remind me of gen 5

[fleet grotto]

30%!

[drowsy plank]

😭

[errant wren]

i should homebrew the gen 5 games onto my 2ds

thanks for reminding me

[fleet grotto]

like genuinely what is it saying

[errant wren]

fricking... idk either

[indigo yacht]

it's supposed to say that "boomerang = rogue and axe = melee"

[fleet grotto]

if you change enchanted boomerang you also have to change trimerang too and just why

[errant wren]

like on the surface it barely makes sense, but thinking about it, it makes even less sense

[indigo yacht]

it doesn't do the best job of doing that though ill admit

[fleet grotto]

i don't think it has any reasonng either

[indigo yacht]

i mean... it kinda does? just not good reasoning

[fleet grotto]

i would barely count "it would make perfect sense" as reasoning

partly because it just doesnt

[olive saddle]

oh its one of these

guys... le... le vanilla thing is... rouge... change...

[errant wren]

you can totally use boomerangs as melee weapons, realistically speaking

they're probably not the best for it irl, but you could

[olive saddle]

you can use anything as a melee weapon realistically speaking

[indigo yacht]

beating yharon to death with my magic book

bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk CRACK

[errant wren]

light bulbs at melee range 💡

[olive saddle]

if i beat you over the head with a double barrel thatd probably hurt (not a threat)

[fleet grotto]

also it's not like the same kinds of weapons can be used by only one class

[olive saddle]

ok

depending on where this is

this may hurt

[fleet grotto]

hi magic dagger hi shadowflame knife

[drowsy plank]

this would be so funny

[indigo yacht]

obviously we need to make these both rogue weapons

[errant wren]

reminds me of a random mod i used to play

[olive saddle]

we must change everything vanilla guys...

[errant wren]

"fists" that did magic damage

[drowsy plank]

it's like tactian's trump card was actually cool

instead of a default melee broadsword that deals magic damage you just throw a massive fucking tome at the enemies head that deals melee damage

[fleet grotto]

we should make everything you throw deal rogue damage. actually rename rogue to thrower. and replace stealth with like an exhaust mechanic thingy. what about like techniques too that could change uo your gameplay that would be cool

[drowsy plank]

to be fair

[indigo yacht]

the buffest fucking wizard youve ever seen kicks down your door

[olive saddle]

i love the comically simple weapons like the fucking apocth thing

just a funny brick

[errant wren]

[drowsy plank]

up until recently rogue was still internally treated as thrower type damage

[indigo yacht]

we should rename rogue to artificer

[drowsy plank]

which made it VERY funny with thorium accessories bc they're wildly unbalanced

[olive saddle]

thrower in thorium seems fun

[tepid crown]

enchanted axe isnt even a normal axe...

[errant wren]

that's funny

[olive saddle]

id honestly say both are equally as unbalanced right now

[tepid crown]

its a throwing axe....

[keen zodiac]

stealth will become focus

[glass arch]

wave pounder shinobi sigil

[tepid crown]

guys iron and lead.tomahawks are axes lets chang em to melee!!!!!!!¡!!!11

[olive saddle]

oh no whats shinobi sigil

i dont even know what that is but wave pounder brings me worry

[fleet grotto]

like hollow knight and you can heahl

[olive saddle]

that weapon is a disaster waiting to happen

[olive saddle]

OPH

[indigo yacht]

oh no

[olive saddle]

its just the dark harvest for throwing weapons

[errant wren]

guys, anything with a blade should be changed to function as axes

[ashen warren]

you didnt even show the funniest one

[indigo yacht]

whips should increase damage for all classes not just summons

[indigo yacht]

LOL

[olive saddle]

OH MY GOD

[fleet grotto]

1000 crits gg

[olive saddle]

thisl ooks so fun

[glass arch]

KEEP IN MIND THIS ISNT EVEN THE ENDGAME ARMOR FOR THROWER

[olive saddle]

ok to be fair

[ashen warren]

and that is how i achieved 1:30 nameless deity with thorium

[tepid crown]

this is the equivalent to lunar armour btw

[ashen warren]

and 30 second goozma

[olive saddle]

thorium has 1 boss after ml

and its kind of easy

[drowsy plank]

oh man now im thinking about MPG doing nameless afk with thorium

fun times

[indigo yacht]

crossmodding

[olive saddle]

yknow that fucking catalyst rogue weapon that just aims for you

[ashen warren]

this armor was never meant to be used with something like executioners blade

oh well :D

[olive saddle]

that sounds interesting

[tepid crown]

the fucking drop from the water boss right?

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[glass arch]

best part is

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[glass arch]

infinite stealth bug

[tepid crown]

which made u invincible forever

[drowsy plank]

mhm

[olive saddle]

oh the shell

[drowsy plank]

that plus i think it was viral sprout bc
summon that deals debuff damage

so it circumvented the damage reduction

[tepid crown]

yup

[olive saddle]

that sounds kinda fun

[glass arch]

thorium let you make an infinite stealth bug on just about every single clockwork use rogue weapon

[olive saddle]

viral sprout is certainly a weapon

[indigo yacht]

what if crystal assassin buffed summon damage and whip speed but didn't give any summon slots so it was still summoner but not like silly or anything

[ashen warren]

please hop off my goat

[drowsy plank]

it honestly prolly should lol

[olive saddle]

you're probably right i havent used it enough to make a concise opinion 🙏🏻

[glass arch]

anyways yeah thorium cal crossmodding is funny as shit especially in multiplayer where a single player with wave pounder and shinobi sigil can crash everyone elses game

[olive saddle]

LMAO

[drowsy plank]

the thorlamity server was something else

[indigo yacht]

crystal assassin has middling stats for other classes but the tradeoff is great mobility so i think no summon slots but average damage and whip stuff would be balanced ish?

[olive saddle]

does it not give melee speed?

[indigo yacht]

idk

[drowsy plank]

it's funnily prolly the most actual documentation that calamity-thorium crossmodding has ever got

[glass arch]

optrix with dread armor kiting literally every boss

[drowsy plank]

fuck dread armor man who came up with that

[indigo yacht]

it does, but only like 10%

[olive saddle]

thats still a 10% whip speed boost technically

[keen zodiac]

new suggestion

alert

[indigo yacht]

yeah but i was thinking more like 30%

[glass arch]

i dont know but it was really funny to watch optrix consistently outrun dog

[drowsy plank]

i dunno how to feel about this one

bc like

[indigo yacht]

i dont like this one

[drowsy plank]

alright yeah it's fair everyone and their mother has pointed out that fishing kind of blows but also like

[indigo yacht]

it invokes the fear of crafting recipes in me

[drowsy plank]

it still deserves to have content

that too

[keen zodiac]

just make fishing quests not mandatory for fishing gear

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure this is

about fishing exclusive weapons like polaris parrotfish

[olive saddle]

my best suggestion is: make it really really fucking annoying to not fish and get fishing gear

[indigo yacht]

personally i would give it like, an extra... 20% summon damage and 20% whip speed or something, hopefully that would be mostly balanced and still worth using

[olive saddle]

does crystal assassin give any slots?

[indigo yacht]

spider has 28% but 3 minion slots, but crystal has movement speed and a dash

[drowsy plank]

Calamity's focus on boss progression and combat

dw we're working on fixing this

[indigo yacht]

no, and it likely wouldn't even for summoner since it's just kinda risky to give minion slots to the "all-class" armor

[olive saddle]

ok fair enough

[indigo yacht]

idk I'll think about this some more

i like the idea of another whip boosting armor set but also i think there's a few in sso idk

[olive saddle]

i hope so, whip armor sets are so fucking fun

i recently played trae and glacial armor + dark harvest was so fun

[indigo yacht]

oh yeah also whip range is a stat that exists and is very cool

[olive saddle]

(glacial armor gave +30% whip speed and +30% whip range and essentially 3 roided enchanted daggers for free)

shit was so fun

[olive saddle]

thats a stat yep

[fleet grotto]

whats trae

[ashen warren]

trae project, reimagining a lot of vanilla stuff

at least thats how it was when i played it a couple years ago

[indigo yacht]

lets hope i haven't accidentally broken every single rule simultaneously

[fleet grotto]

sorry you just broke every rule simultaneously

[indigo yacht]

[covert zealot]

I really hope that the idea of odd mushrooms being on the astral passes, its fun as hell

[olive saddle]

yep

pretty damn good mod

one of the best mage reworks ive seen in a long time

[fleet grotto]

Changelogs says they're sold by truffle now, but I guess that doesn't fully stop it from coming

[indigo yacht]

@balmy folio drop the anecdote and focus on the reasoning

also i would rephrase this to just be "renewable sharpening station" because crafting and buying both fall into that category

but both are slightly lame so an alternative could be cool

[fleet grotto]

Also it's sold by merchant in hardmode iirc

[indigo yacht]

is it?

interesting

[balmy folio]

Yeah in hardmode

Thats the issue. Im not in hardmode

Ive been searching for 3 hours

[fleet grotto]

then skip it

[balmy folio]

One single station.

[fleet grotto]

you can get it much easier later

it's far from required

[balmy folio]

I mean yeah but if i was summoner or ranger i would have my station already

[errant wren]

but like

you don't need it

[ashen warren]

truffle selling it is a quick change for something that needed to happen immediatly

[umbral gazelle]

was the suggestion too long

[fleet grotto]

oh okay

[umbral gazelle]

it got 🗜️'d

[ashen warren]

like the drink recipes, i put them together myself

they arent pretty but they work

[errant wren]

might be

[indigo yacht]

yeah, that means too long

[indigo yacht]

it's not very good, if it's any consolation

[errant wren]

alcohols should be moved to a new npc that's just me

[indigo yacht]

iirc only 5 ap

that's not much

or it might've been 10 which is more

[errant wren]

i think it's 10

[ashen warren]

sharpening station will be added to the vernal pass next update

[errant wren]

but i don't remember i don't play melee

[olive saddle]

isnt it 12

12 ap for some reason

[errant wren]

i don't think it would be a dumb number like 12

[olive saddle]

i swear it is hang on

[tepid crown]

its 12 in vanilla

[olive saddle]

IT IS

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Sharpening_Station

[umbral gazelle]

@balmy folio i think your suggestion is too long so the bot cant send them in #suggestions-voting

[balmy folio]

12 ap is alot though

Reaver shark is 15 isnt it

[olive saddle]

+6 damage essentially

[indigo yacht]

armor piercing Isn't that good.

[errant wren]

that's so stupid what the hell

[olive saddle]

its kinda awesome

[tepid crown]

its only 5 in cal

[balmy folio]

It is whar.

[indigo yacht]

like don't get me wrong a free +6 damage is really good

[errant wren]

isn't armor piercing super broken

[indigo yacht]

but don't exaggerate it

[olive saddle]

depends on the weapon

[errant wren]

it can be super goofy

[indigo yacht]

each point of AP is +0.5 damage, rounded down

[balmy folio]

I edited the message do i have to resend it entirely

[errant wren]

i think the bot should do it by itself?

[balmy folio]

Imma just do it anywayd

[errant wren]

lmao

[balmy folio]

Im to hyperfocused not to

3 hours man

Have i looked for a sharpening station

One singular one in my entire world

[errant wren]

i guess you have vernal pass in the future, if you can find it

[grim tusk]

doesnt Merchant sell it after some tier or im suffering the Mandela effect

[balmy folio]

It sells it in hardmode

[tepid crown]

hardmode

[errant wren]

hardmode

[balmy folio]

Its supposed to be attainable pre hm

[indigo yacht]

well this one is better

[balmy folio]

But if you get unlucky like me you get fucked

[errant wren]

but the point of the sugg is making it more attainable like the other 2 at that stage

[indigo yacht]

but also @balmy folio this is an easily obtainable, guaranteed sharpening station

sorry ping

[balmy folio]

Yes but i want it now.

[indigo yacht]

???

[ashen warren]

you have pinged a dev. prepare to be obliterated.

[indigo yacht]

it'll be next update regardless

[ashen warren]

@north oracle if you'd please

[balmy folio]

Wait what

[indigo yacht]

they won't push out a patch just for that

[indigo yacht]

[north oracle]

🔫

[balmy folio]

Is this sometjing they are adding?

[errant wren]

(well it's not like... an update will work retroactively)

[errant wren]

yeah we

[balmy folio]

Oh no i meant

[north oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/death-die-gun-pumpkin-fuck-you-gif-7837063802596359671