suggestions-discussion

[golden sonnet]

peak

[drowsy plank]

lmao smh not using cosmic plushie to disable demonshade armor set bonus

[oblique otter]

This person doesn't cosmic plushie

[median scaffold]

I'm on my main, so can't get it
Aandd... no, he didn't enrage

[oblique otter]

idk

[misty lichen]

the ocean doesn’t care about biomes at all, as long as you’re in that x value that defines the ocean then it’ll always count

which is why you can go to the moon and they don’t care

[median scaffold]

As far as I remember, he doesn't shoot them whevener he's enraged

[oblique otter]

can you use the cosmolight twice

[olive saddle]

I hate the cosmic plushie. I was doing a stupid challenge with demonshade and i had to use the plushie and when i would go down to wof i would go from max health to 300. So infuriating

[olive saddle]

Why shouldn't the same apply to NPC happiness? My guess is different code since the boss goes based off of what biome you're in instead of what biome they're in.

[misty lichen]

i’m pretty sure it does

[oblique otter]

?

[misty lichen]

i always get amidias to think he’s in the ocean when i make my sulp sea pylon

remember this, this part is important

[median scaffold]

Well, guys...

It is, indeed, forest

[median scaffold]

No, was in a boss battle

[oblique otter]

wtf kill the boss

[median scaffold]

Second

Here

He doesn't enrage in sulph sea

[oblique otter]

yep

[olive saddle]

The fuck

[median scaffold]

Lemme check the Levi

[oblique otter]

^

[olive saddle]

Yea try placing the npc directly above the water

[median scaffold]

Sure

[median scaffold]

Soo...

The ocean part of sulph ocean is... ocean
But the beach part is forest

[drowsy plank]

yes

bc sulph

is not a biome

it's just whatever vanilla biomes are under it

for NPCs at least

[misty lichen]

forest is the default biome that always applies if no other biome is applying, oceans always apply at the edges of the world regardless of what you put on top of it

[oblique otter]

cave

[median scaffold]

[misty lichen]

so that like duke fishron won’t enrage if your ocean is entirely taken over by evil

[median scaffold]

Interesting information to have, indeed...

[misty lichen]

ok motherfucker put a cave on top of your ocean then come back.

[median scaffold]

Let terrasteel do another "useless fact" video or smth

[oblique otter]

okay!

[median scaffold]

How do I do this?

[misty lichen]

years of intricate building

[olive saddle]

Years of intricate building or two minutes in cheat sheet

[oblique otter]

I think i did it

[median scaffold]

I, sadly, have a life to do that

[forest grove]

How do they check for sulphuric pylon requirements

[drowsy plank]

tiles still, just not given support for npc happiness yet

[fleet grotto]

"skill issue"

[drowsy plank]

@sweet flame this feels way too broad and also has no reasoning

[sweet flame]

more rewarding imo

[drowsy plank]

?????

that's not reasoning

is getting gear 4 tiers ahead in progression not reward enough

[sweet flame]

duke fishron loot is not worth it to get before killing mech bosses

[little sentinel]

Yes it is??

I have a feeling you've never done that if you think its not rewarding enough

[sand marlin]

This sounds pretty troll.

Duke Fishron's gear is really good.

[little sentinel]

Yeah

[sweet flame]

dart rifle better

also daedalus stormbow better

[little sentinel]

no??

[sweet flame]

yes?

[sand marlin]

They are not beating Tsunami

[sweet flame]

it sucks man

[little sentinel]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[sand marlin]

No the weapons you mentioned suck ass in comparison

There is no comparison actually they are entire tiers apart

[sweet flame]

skill issue when ur saying i use worse weapon

i cba

[little sentinel]

Common normal mode player

[sweet flame]

i play master death mostly

[little sentinel]

🧢

[sweet flame]

beliwe what u want ngl

[sand marlin]

Anyway no point in keeping this up when the sugg's exclamation is already explained well enough

[little sentinel]

Yeah. His reasoning is literally 'duke fishron gear doesnt oneshot mech bosses'

Anyway, anyone agree with my suggestion?

[sand marlin]

I never do boss rush so

Whatever makes it more interesting Ig

[little sentinel]

almost at calamitas clone in bossrush rn, i'll post an image of it when im there

literally impossible bruh

wait what? its suddenly much brighter

this mod is so finnicky sometimes, removing my suggestion

[ashen warren]

Cug

[wild sparrow]

@little sentinel

[little sentinel]

huh

[worthy lintel]

deleting most recent sugg because its only resulting in dogpiling

[grave zinc]

@fathom sequoia - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Re-tier Ceaseless Hunger Potions]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@void crow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[QOL: Purification Powder Being Able to Purify Background Walls]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@safe pine - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a shimmer recipe for Cryonic Ore, probably by throwing in Hallowed or Perennial]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lapis canyon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Vanilla Boss Healthbar display all three Profaned Guardians total healthpool]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
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[sweet flame]

cant belive suggestion get ppl malding this hard

[drowsy plank]

it's not

malding

you're just breaking the rules and refuse to fix it

which is not something new that we've had to deal with

but still annoying

[sweet flame]

how am i breaking the rules?

[drowsy plank]

well it was deleted but the suggestion was too broadly scoped and, like i mentioned, you need to explain why changes should be made unless they are abundantly self evident, like putting sundial in gold crates since cosmolight already powercreeps it in hardmode and is easier to get, so fishing for sundial is pointless (plus you can get it preHM from angler)

[sweet flame]

its just a suggestion man

[drowsy plank]

the first, at the very least, is a stated rules in the pins

yes a suggestion which. violates the rules. which we have for suggestions. which you would know if you, you know, read the rules

[sweet flame]

its literal auswitch rule ngl im a busy person i dont have time to literally write an essay on what would be a good thing to add on the game

[drowsy plank]

then dont make suggestions

[sweet flame]

so ur saying if im not a no life i dont have the premission to make a suggestion

i belive that rule violates some eu laws

[drowsy plank]

actually yes
anything to get you to leave at this point, you're being incredibly difficult to work with and rude

[sweet flame]

im just saying ur rules are violating eu rules?

"Everyone may freely collect, receive and disseminate information and opinions. Except in such cases as are provided by law, everyone has the right to obtain information of a public nature in which he has a well founded legal interest under law"

[drowsy plank]

cool please leave

[sweet flame]

Im reporting the server

for violating eu laws

[drowsy plank]

have fun with it man

[little sentinel]

makor your suggestion is A) too broad and doesnt make much sense, B) wouldn't make sense to implement

[drowsy plank]

we already said that multiple times, it's best to just talk about something else at this point

dont feed him

[little sentinel]

the rules do not violate this bro

[drowsy plank]

so cool

enjoy your timeout that was entirely uncalled for

...

[little sentinel]

shouldnt have said that

[drowsy plank]

you're getting a warn for that fyi

anyway uh

[little sentinel]

got it

completely justified

[drowsy plank]

skeletron telegraph would be cool

[royal tapir]

Seems kinda unnecessary to me

[drowsy plank]

kinda like how scal's hellblasts charge up a bit before firing

i mean yeah but

idk if it's easy it'd be fine

but i doubt it'll get much traction anyway

[little sentinel]

well when he teleports (and shoots skulls in doing so) he usually teleports off screen

[little sentinel]

well there are easy ways to implement it

if you dont want it to be fancy, have it shoot out transparent non-damaging lines before the skulls

[safe pine]

what in the Skeletron fight would be telegraphed, if I may ask?

[little sentinel]

the skulls i imagine

[safe pine]

ah

[little sentinel]

what is up with this penguin, why is it menacing looking

oh no images here

forgot i was in suggestions

[misty lichen]

a slight telegraph would be helpful but doesn’t really make sense in the difficulties where it fires 80 billion times per second

[safe pine]

I can kind of see a telegraph, but they fire at a consistent pace

if anything needs to be telegraphed I'd say only the first couple skulls after he stops charging, and/or maybe when the charge will start, but I found those pretty easy to get a hang of so idk

[little sentinel]

wouldn't it make even more sense in those difficulties?

idk bout you but i dont have cat-like reflexes

[drowsy plank]

that is from the Warn, actually
sorry, just kind of, yknow, i timed Makor out and you said the exact same thing so... had to give an equivalent penalty, but at least the Warn doesn't stop you from talking

[little sentinel]

Ah yeah, makes sense

[misty lichen]

well no, the difficulties where it’s firing so frequently that the telegraph wouldn’t even be doing anything

[grim tusk]

If Makor was warned already this makes sense

he broke sugg and server rules then complains that he doesnt have enough time and that this server doesnt comply to EU rules and searches for the law, What?

[north oracle]

@little sentinel do you mean pre-HM?

[drowsy plank]

i did a 1 hour timeout. dude needed time to cool off, and 1 hour timeouts are a new alt to warns we've been slowly rolling out

[grim tusk]

Yep aint it pre-boss?

[drowsy plank]

burnt sienna -> red sun

[north oracle]

Yeah lol

[little sentinel]

I mean, it's used for grand guardian

[grim tusk]

Oh

[north oracle]

Oh lmao

[grim tusk]

Now i get it

[little sentinel]

And ngl, i like using true melee

[drowsy plank]

oh it's grand guardian
whoops i confused it with mandible blade

[little sentinel]

I should clarify that, brb

[grim tusk]

I agree with this sugg 👍

[drowsy plank]

truly both are just so memorable

[north oracle]

Ig technically it does go into the best post ML true melee then (earth)

Fair enough, that's a valid idea

[violet sierra]

yeah an item that's obscure being a part of a crafting line that makes an iconic weapon is kinda cringe

[little sentinel]

Yeah, the burnt sienna is really memorable for me..
grinding for two hours with 10x spawn rates trying to get it

[little sentinel]

honestly i'd prefer it used a different weapon instead of burnt sienna, like maybe that one true melee sword golem drops

[grim tusk]

Aegis 10% drop lmao

[little sentinel]

aegis yeah

it makes more sense than a pre-boss obscure weapon nobody uses

[drowsy plank]

nah we just need a burnt sienna hardmode upgrade

[little sentinel]

this.

[north oracle]

Burnt sienna's functionality gets added into grand guardian iirc

[violet sierra]

I like that Burnt Sienna is used in a craftign tree like this

i just meant hta tit being so obscure is a problem

not that it being a part of the line is a probelm

[little sentinel]

kinda

[royal tapir]

Did you know that Burnt Sienna used to have an indirect upgrade, called Terra-cotta

[little sentinel]

i would suggest a hardmode upgrade for burnt sienna (maybe around majestic guard's tier) but that violates specific item request rules

[royal tapir]

It was removed about 2 years ago

[violet sierra]

I do remember that actually

[little sentinel]

Dang

[drowsy plank]

hey i mean
yknow

[royal tapir]

What could they mean by this...

[little sentinel]

its weird that the terra-cotta was dropped by the hm variant of tomb crawler and not just an upgrade

[novel belfry]

thats because the terra-cotta USED to be a direct upgrade

i have no clue why it got changed to that tho

[grave zinc]

@storm idol - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Create a Draedon lab for the shimmer lake]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[**Add a "Locus" for Shimmerable items. **]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@proper granite - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[add some type of UI tip-off that tells you when the "summoner damage penalty" is active]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[novel belfry]

😭

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Mana Polarizer to Actually Behave Like Spectre Armor or Change the Tooltip]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@brittle moth - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a spawn item for Leviathan and Anahita]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[ripe owl]

When will they learn...

[fervent meadow]

now this

makes me sad

[drowsy plank]

lmao

ez

[little sentinel]

the draedon lab for shimmer makes sense in the lore, but it would be a pain to implement

[ripe owl]

Would it

[little sentinel]

and it wouldn't fit into the draedon progression, theres no room for a sixth blueprint/tier of draedon upgrades

[ripe owl]

What even is Shimmer in the lore of Calamity?

[little sentinel]

there is no lore of it rn

[ripe owl]

Exactly

[little sentinel]

it would make sense tho, if i was draedon, i would love to study a substance that mutates/changes items

[ripe owl]

Yeah but
What if it simply doesn't exist in Calamity

Just like the Frost and Pumpkin Moon are ignored by the lore

[drowsy plank]

there is lore it's just not public

im sure they'll get to it eventually

[echo leaf]

It would probably be like the Cavern lab where it just doesn't have any items

[umbral gazelle]

do i have to get permission from the dedicator of lilies of finality?

[grim tusk]

Onyx exavator:

[grim tusk]

Yes, and that is Fabsol

[umbral gazelle]

wait whr

ou

oh

do i dm him?

[grim tusk]

Idk

[umbral gazelle]

i thought it was someone's else

[dense locust]

yknow
having to get a devs permission to make a suggestion relating to their dev item doesnt make a whole lot of sense considering that suggestions have to pass through the dev server anyway at which point the dev in question can (assumedly) object to said suggestion

[grim tusk]

Thats one other reason to add to why im unsure

Although if its to “add more reference” its gonna get an ❗

And if its balancing it also gets an ❗

[umbral gazelle]

i was thinking to give it a renewable source but idk if it is renewable

[grim tusk]

It is renewable

[umbral gazelle]

ohr

[grim tusk]

It grows on the Brimstone Crags

[umbral gazelle]

mhmmm

[novel belfry]

onyx biolab

[novel belfry]

the earth is still one au from the sun

[distant gyro]

but what if cosmic bitflip

[grim tusk]

CalTestHelpers and Infernum add that item

[north oracle]

@versed wharf Wulfrum Flashlight is a Catalyst item

[versed wharf]

A what?

[golden sonnet]

Item from another mod

[north oracle]

Not from cal

[versed wharf]

Oh, oops. Sorry haha.

[worn pike]

I read that wrong and was DEEPLY concerned i missed something

[distant gyro]

thats a you problem on that one

[worn pike]

Thats a i dont have my glasses problem lmao

[umbral gazelle]

⁉️

[novel belfry]

he probs thought that wulfrum flashlights were just added

[fleet flume]

...I'll just assume my suggestion is fine for now.

[oblique otter]

open crate
look inside
721 sulphurous sand

[fleet flume]

I was wrong about the 1 type at a time thing, but I was correct in assuming that you were wrong about the 721 sulphurous sand thing.

[oblique otter]

nah im just joking on if the suggestion passes and the blocks are significantly increased

[fleet flume]

Kind of a funny reaction from me then

[olive saddle]

you got 659, whats the issue?

[sand marlin]

Treads don't need shifting they're just fine

Tracers also have their use outside of Elysian

Elysian is the likeliest for a tiershift if anything and that's it

[hollow wharf]

Post ML, wings are simply better than tracers because wings give more movement speed while flying, which you should be doing as much as possible

[sand marlin]

Celestial Tracers well for Guards and Prov in the underworld which has limited vertical space and the constant accelerated movement speed even as you land on the ground which would've normally slowed you down a good bit with just wings makes it a viable option
Seraph Tracers work well for Exo Mechs as well

[hollow wharf]

If you want horizontal speed, you can still fly, because wings give similar, horizontal speed

[sand marlin]

Celestial Tracers are horizontally faster midair either way so

Still beneficial

[olive saddle]

i think this will get a lock because they're planning on doing something with treads

[hollow wharf]

But you also need to take into consideration the stat bonuses the luminite wings give for their respective class

[noble sand]

On 2 whole bosses, and one of them is underworld Providence which is commonly fought after hallow Providence, so it doesn't really matter much

[sand marlin]

I never fight Prov on Hallow first

Idk what this "commonly fought" refers to

I've always fought Prov on hell first

Every single time

[distant gyro]

there are also plans with wings which have yet to be fully worked on

[sand marlin]

Yes you trade mobility for the stats

That's the kinda trade you're making

[noble sand]

Hallow Providence is easier

[sand marlin]

That's just subjective

There is no objectivity to that statement and there are plenty who think otherwise

Either way I don't think that's a good reasoning

[hollow wharf]

Even then, I find provi easier WITHOUT tracers, because the reduced mobility makes dodging the bullet hell attacks easier

[sand marlin]

Don't you just sit at a fixed distance horizontally then go up and down?

And I refer to you not a general audience

That is what I do for avoiding it

[bright crag]

Well, not everyone wants to have severely reduced ground mobility, and they shouldn't be punished for not adhering to "you should be flying as much as possible"

[sand marlin]

Oh that's a good point I never considered that

[bright crag]

Besides, with the changes you proposed, the latest boot accessory you could use with post-ML wings would be Angel Treads, a mech-tier accessory

And if anyone wanted better ground mobility in post-ML, they'd be forced to use post-Cultist Tracers, which would certainly be awful compared to on-tier wings

So there's a lot of problems with your suggestion, at least in my opinion

I'd recommend considering the consequences of the changes before proposing them

@hollow wharf

[vale cairn]

Lol i will start training here to pass the ENEM, i think there is easier yet lol

[drowsy plank]

tracers on hell provi is great, and hell provi is definetly easier

[median scaffold]

[drowsy plank]

i was fighting her in hallowed recently and the fact that she just
keeps going up is super annoying
having a ceiling helps rein her in better

at least in my opinion

which proves that hallowed being easier is not a blanket statement

hell i did midnight provi in hell lmao

[median scaffold]

After the "obsidian skull defence" thing I saw... uhh, I think tracers deserve some kind of a buff
Not in a flight time or movement capabilities, but from utility point

[fervent meadow]

surely we just slap ankh shield in there!

[fervent orbit]

i used to never expand my hallow so i would just use the background change as an indicator for when i was going too high

[median scaffold]

Aegis + Tracers, YESS

[fervent orbit]

now that she doesnt have a biome enrage tho, whether she stays in the hallow or not doesnt rlly matter

[drowsy plank]

yeah

it's moreso got to do with mentality and how you handle the fight

[fervent meadow]

when i fight her in hallow i tend to fly too far away and get cooked by uneven terrain

[median scaffold]

I just destroy her. Summoner is still busted with only 1 defensive acc

[fervent meadow]

still havent played cal summoner lol (will like next run)

[median scaffold]

It's busted for many reasons, even in defense department (me, looking at valhalla for every post-golem stages and fearmonger as an ultimate tank armor)

[glass arch]

fearmonger isnt the ultimate tank armor

that goes to a) auric rogue or b) reaver tank

[median scaffold]

One of the better ones, then?

[storm idol]

I mean idk a lab doesen't need a item Draedon tier necessarily, It would definitely make sense if they added some kinda Draedon remnants or whatever to show that he was atleast studying such an interesting substance

[buoyant idol]

@alpine geode I’d send that in #1178515062030348308

[fervent orbit]

wat is being shown

[stable kiln]

this suggestion has the chad energy

[fervent orbit]

wtff

done isnt orange anymore,,

[stable kiln]

im sorry im sick

[fervent orbit]

actually cursed

[stable kiln]

my fault

[buoyant idol]

Hi sick, I’m Gearsaw.

[eternal escarp]

idk blue done looks nicer orange doesnt fit well
anyway, i think the "item" they mean is the wulfrum acro pack

and, yeah probably fits better in balance issue reports though i dont think this is a balance issue either? whats the thing that needs buffing in this item

its not like the grapple has any specific properties to buff it with, so i think they mightve meant to suggest "making it less sluggish" or something of the likes which would work as a suggestion instead i think

[fervent orbit]

im not saying it doesnt fit, just cursed since ive always known done with having an orange name in calmain

[eternal escarp]

i remember the time i was orange...
i barely talked here when that happaned so actually i dont rememeber it

[fervent orbit]

it only really feels eh when u try to turn around

(as shown in the video)

[eternal escarp]

its been a long while since i used this item so i cant really say how it feels

[fervent orbit]

but its really nice if you get to chain hooks properly

(also as shown in the video)

[eternal escarp]

im mostly trying to understand what they actually meant to suggest

[topaz light]

❗🗜️

[stable kiln]

it was just a bit over a year

[sleek turret]

i feel it's the hook uhh swingness?

the speed of the swing

[fervent orbit]

guh??

[stable kiln]

feb 2023 to may 2024

[sleek turret]

if it is that i personally believe that for how early you can get the item it's Ok and shouldn't get any buffs,

[fervent orbit]

O H

i thought u meant

u quit last year

[stable kiln]

nah that was like 3 days ago or something

[fervent orbit]

dang

is this the end of calamity mod?

[stable kiln]

definitely, who will balance biome blade now

[fervent orbit]

just give it all to cit

im sure he wont mind

[novel belfry]

about that...

[eternal escarp]

yeah and esp since iirc it also gives +5 movement speed regardless of the hook too

its not the only thing the item has for it

[sleek turret]

Yea

[fleet grotto]

It works without a hook too

[sleek turret]

doesn't Vanilla Terraria add Dry Rockets?

[vestal lark]

Yeah but as I said there's no rocket launcher to my knowledge that fires any faster than Dry Bombs.

Scorpio does but the new rebalance makes it unable to fire Dry Rockets.

[sleek turret]

that's weird

[vestal lark]

Hmm?

[sleek turret]

the ability to not fire Dry Rockets

[vestal lark]

It converts all rockets into its own thingies now.

Unless I'm just a bingus.

[misty lichen]

i feel like itd just be easier to ask for scorpio dry rocket compatibility lol

it works with cluster rockets

[sleek turret]

Yea

[vestal lark]

That's fair I guess.

[sleek turret]

It should be compatible with all rockets regardless

All of them.

[vestal lark]

Although actually, saying that, Scorpio is still post-Moonlord, is it not?

And having it be the only thing that can really efficiently dry large areas is still pretty annoying.

[misty lichen]

no

pre

[sleek turret]

celebration mk. II could work as a temporary solution I feel

[vestal lark]

I might be an idiot but I genuinely can't get the Celebration II to work.

With any rockets.

Ever.

[sleek turret]

gulp

[vestal lark]

Okay just tested it does work and I'm just an idiot.

But also, counterpoint:

Funi reference.

Celebration II actually doesn't.

[drowsy plank]

funni references is more of a reason for me to flag it

conceptually though, i dont mind the idea

[vestal lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138960073440374795/1228010392295313458/sad_asd.png?ex=662a7ccc&is=661807cc&hm=ae4d4743e9aab134f6952c7bec5cac776db8fc6af27c3d32b1de1d029a0fa7e5&

[drowsy plank]

rocket launchers are sort of notoriously slow, and guns are already known for not converting all that often

meanwhile rockets are like

Unique Projectile For Every Type :)

[sleek turret]

just recolor that shit?

plus makes rocket launchers better because they can have atleast a different use instead of just deal damage to a target.......

[golden sonnet]

They already have a use, being the best mining tool in the game

[sleek turret]

that's what I implied earlier?

they have an use outside of dealing damage to a target

[sleek turret]

weak can be vile as shit I agree

[gray bone]

is there any particular reason why slime god of all things is only 3 stars in the bestiary? seems rather out of place given even desert scourge is 4 stars

as is hive mind

[worthy lintel]

because he's canonically a pussy

and the star system is very arbitrary

[gray bone]

best answer fr

[worthy lintel]

😎

[gray bone]

ig, it just seemed rather out of place

especially considering SG should be a lot more significant than DS

[worthy lintel]

real answer: i dont even know why stars are a thing in the first place

[drowsy plank]

scal 1 BILLION stars

[gray bone]

vanilla thing carrying over ig

[worthy lintel]

exos are THE star

[drowsy plank]

maybe the lore writers know they seem to have more a grasp on the whole bestiary situation

[wide river]

The Bestiary stars should disappear when it's daytime because they're very clearly stars like fallen stars

[gray bone]

astrum aureus and deus should have different stars in their entries

if they don't already

same with other astral stuff

hive tumour is higher rarity than hive mind?? (5 stars to 4)

i was gonna make a small suggestion just for SG thing but this is too widespread at this point

and silly

so i shall not

[wide river]

The best solution is to ignore the star rankings entirely
Why I say this? Zoologist is 5 stars but Cyborg is 3

[gray bone]

yeah it's a silly and inconsistent thing

still funny to look at occasionally though

[sleek turret]

just ask Red on twitter I think and he will probably respond

[worthy lintel]

cyborg is 3 stars because his items are dogwater

[wide river]

So are Zoologist's

[sleek turret]

or just come up with smth at the Terraria Forums regarding that :feelschung

[wide river]

The most utility I get out of Zoologist is getting town pets

[gray bone]

nah guide to critter companionship is fire

saved me from so many accidental EoL fights

and helps me catch critters for my collection

[worthy lintel]

and the pets are handy for pylons when you run out of npcs early on

i hate her but she's useful

[sleek turret]

according to the wiki the stars are actually meant to be a rarity statistic

[wide river]

Which then begs another question
Why is Zoologist of the same rarity as gold critters and Moon Lord

[sleek turret]

idk ask Red personally on Twitter

he's likely to respond,

[wide river]

Would if I could

[gray bone]

yeah i saw that which started my little tirade with SG

[sleek turret]

It's probably sillyness

[novel belfry]

Does the game just randomly assign stars to enemies

[gray bone]

i don't think so

i wouldn't know though

[wide river]

There's a semblance of a system but there are defo some weird outliers

[gray bone]

i imagine it's just that no one really cares enough to keep stars consistent

because they are entirely meaningless

the actualy entries are much more important lore-wise

[fossil finch]

They're defined through some values iirc

Like you don't define them manually the game does weird maths to define them

[hollow shell]

ohhh you're pushing it ohhhhh you're pushing the Specific Item rule
#suggestions-posting message

[olive saddle]

You're pushing it, Gordon.

[novel belfry]

dddddddddddd

[serene vapor]

maybe I cooked, maybe I burnt down the entire kitchen

[grim tusk]

so just checked, not a bug but an oversight rather as it doesnt check for NPCs unlike the both Cal and Vanilla's meteor

[echo leaf]

Neat, good to know! So should I put chests inside my NPC housing to prevent it until that gets fixed?

[grim tusk]

that or torches

Astral meteor checks for NPC houses but the monolith doesnt for some fuckass reason

[drowsy plank]

@serene vapor this is not only reversion but probably belongs in #1052323733961977947

[serene vapor]

bug reports?

why bug reports?

did you mean balance suggestions?

[drowsy plank]

wait

i meant #1178515062030348308

lmao

[restive wharf]

Is it just me or is the suggestion rate at an all time high

[inland igloo]

New update just dropped so makes sense lmao

[olive saddle]

[crude geode]

^^^^^

big updates bring in a big influx of suggestions

[inland igloo]

Anyways what do ya’ll think of my suggestion

[celest orbit]

good morning, day or night, my question is “are there fist weapons or something like that in Calamity?” I'm a big fan of martial arts and brawling, I completed Terraria with weaponout using fist weapons Therefore, I would like to find out as much information as possible about something like this in Calamity
and yes, I know about the Sulfur Glove

[echo leaf]

I doubt the golem fist counts, buuuut... all I can think of off the top of my head is the Phosphorescent Gauntlet.

[golden sonnet]

Warlocks moon fist I guess. But not really

And meteor fist

[celest orbit]

oh, yikes I hope that someday the developers will create a new family of weapons related to fists or maybe even something more just imagine how cool it would be to defeat, for example, DOG with your fist

[celest orbit]

in general, yes, but it’s still very far-fetched to call this what exactly I’m looking for

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, I know none of what I listed was what you wanted

Was just listing literally every fist weapon

[celest orbit]

anyway, thank you very much for your help
i appreciate it

maybe i should do it by myself
i’ve never tried to develop anything or make mods, but I think the concept of the path to this goal should be very interesting and inspiring

[warm karma]

I NEED polterghast relic to not look like it has a red rocket!! it makes me very upset im not trolling either idk if i can file complaints here

[granite parrot]

[sleek turret]

peak

[warm karma]

IT IS NOT PEAK what if children are playing this video game

i need relics that don't look like red rockets

WHAT IF MY DOG WAS WATCHING

[misty lichen]

finally somebody’s thinking about the real issues

[warm karma]

SOMEONE walked in on me & only saw that and said '' is that a dog penis ''

[granite parrot]

Seriously why does the colored polterghast relic look like it has a red rocket bro isn’t wrong😭

[warm karma]

IM NOT AND WHAT IF MY CHILDREN DOWNLOAD THIS MOD TO JOIN i will have to hide the relic from them

[sleek turret]

mmmm yeag this is one of the relics ever

still being the one of the scrapped design ones

idk about the colored ones i don't play with that mod enabled

[misty lichen]

real answer is that’s a side mod and you need to complain about that to whoever owns it

[sleek turret]

True.. true

[misty lichen]

dont double true me.

[sleek turret]

feelschungus

[river lily]

#suggestions-posting message

Honestly banger suggestion good on you for including a reference on your suggestion while also not making your suggestion Add This Reference

That's something very few people do

[hollow shell]

What is dehydration gun a reference to

OK it's Megamind

Yeah no I definitely gotta shoot it down now

@vestal lark Remove the reference quote from your suggestion.
And rephrase your title line to explain what it is that you want instead of giving the item its own name (because specific item proposals are frowned upon in these suggestions channels)
i.e. "Add a Dry Rocket equivalent for Mortar Rounds"

Otherwise the suggestion is fine

[misty lichen]

#suggestions-voting message should this stay up considering it just got addressed in the last patch

[hollow shell]

The devs can add 🔒 or 🏁 to the post if they so wish.

[frail fox]

Pretty sure the only thing that was addressed is that you can't cheese her by standing inside her (which wasn't the point of the post, it's about the actual design of the fight)

[stark locust]

#suggestions-posting message ngl the main idea of this isnt awful , i think that celestial tracers could work as a post cultist accessory due to that whole tier being "celestial" but yeah the rest of it dosent work at all

but yeah dont think this should be done

[vestal lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138960073440374795/1228010392295313458/sad_asd.png?ex=662a7ccc&is=661807cc&hm=ae4d4743e9aab134f6952c7bec5cac776db8fc6af27c3d32b1de1d029a0fa7e5&

Done.

[worn coyote]

"tracers would have wing stats in line with wings you'd have access to at those new points, at the cost of not having any additional bonuses that regular wings have"
you have a huge movement bonus from boots you silly

[vestal lark]

But also suggesting a name making the suggestion unacceptable seems kinda overly-specific?

The reference I get, I just thought I'd put it in as a joke.

[hollow shell]

Thank you 👍

[hollow shell]

Yeah I get how that can seem strict, sorry
We just have a long history with suggestions that are way too specific, and focus more on proposing a cool idea than solving any problem,
that, we try to avoid anything straying into that territory again

[vestal lark]

Ah, alright.

[hollow shell]

👍 Thanks for understanding

[vestal lark]

Thanks for also understanding and not immediately taking it as an insult.

I've had mods on other servers do that.

[hollow shell]

I do try to avoid being that kind of mod

[vestal lark]

Also there isn't an issue with reaction images is there?

I know it's going off-topic a bit.

I just don't want to be causing an issue or anything.

[hollow shell]

uhh Not inherently a problem but just don't overdo it. Try to keep it infrequent.

[vestal lark]

Alright, thanks again.

[hollow shell]

👌

[gray bone]

anyone know why wulfrum drill is the only one to not have true melee damage instead of melee damage? or is it just an inconsistency?

[median scaffold]

I think it's inconsistency

[sand marlin]

The good kind of reaction image

Compact

There is literally 0 reason reaction images should take up half of chat

[frail mantle]

And then mobile scales it up so it clogs half the chat anyway

[echo leaf]

Can confirm

[buoyant idol]

@gusty rivet Don’t post joke suggestions.

[gusty rivet]

im dead serious

[buoyant idol]

It’s not formatted though.

[gusty rivet]

there is nothing to format

its 3 words

[frosty trellis]

Hi @drowsy plank

[heavy cipher]

there is. u can elaborate and elaborate on the specifics.

[gusty rivet]

yes sir yes

i will use all of my hearth and imagination

[drowsy plank]

no joke suggestions

[gusty rivet]

i was dead serious

no laughing matter

[drowsy plank]

please read the rules and stop discussing this unless you plan on actually taking this seriously, otherwise you might face penalties

this isn't an excuse for you all to start posting memes here

[gusty rivet]

ur no fun but ok

[sleek turret]

True.. true

[gusty rivet]

born to be silly forced to contain it

[frail fox]

Might’ve noticed a common theme on my recent suggestions

[drowsy plank]

short range weapon support when it

[frail fox]

I just don’t think any on tier weapons should take all night to beat a boss is all

[grim tusk]

we stopped supporting true melee for a reason

[verbal jasper]

#suggestions-posting message
Yes please

[crude geode]

So true

[novel belfry]

what is it again

[fervent orbit]

bosses being required to support the class by changing the boss when u hold tmelee

[novel belfry]

tmelee not being able to do anything against bosses is probably not how you should deal with that issue

[worthy lintel]

true melee is a mistake introduced by vanilla that cal attempted to fix but it just made it completely overtuned

so huh

man

[novel belfry]

i have never once disagreed with an opinion this heavily

i don't think i'll be able to reasonably do a proper chill argument

[worthy lintel]

you know, I'd like to be wrong

but there's a reason melee weapons start shitting projectiles everywhere in hardmode

to the point its mechanically identical to mage

[novel belfry]

and i dont think im gonna like that reason

[novel belfry]

primarily because of this

i dont think you should have two classes be basically mechanically identical

you CAN have two classes that are similar

[frail fox]

Let me be clear that I never said anything about holding a tm weapon btw, I agree that’s dumb

[fervent orbit]

yea, i was just explaining shades comment

[frail fox]

I just mean something like how ML was changed so phase 2 is far more true melee friendly without actually focusing on true melee

And besides, melee isn’t the only class that can have close range weapons

So yeah the holdout thing is dumb and shouldn’t exist

[royal tapir]

And it doesn’t exist anymore

[fervent orbit]

i think itd be nice if in ur sugg u mentioned some close range non melee weapons

[novel belfry]

im more worried about specific cases where tmelee weapons suffer greatly in specific bosses becasue they just cant hit the fucking bosses

[frail fox]

I don’t think there are any on-tier, but I don’t see why that matters because melee is the one who’s identity is based around getting close and dealing more damage with your extra defense, even if it doesn’t follow that a lot that’s still what it’s supposed to be (outside of the later game bosses)

[misty lichen]

#suggestions-posting message only slightly unrelated but eol should just not have dr during sun dance right?

it literally only punishes non homing weapons by removing their best hitting opportunity

i know it’s probably meant to punish stuff like subduction slicer stealth, but every other post golem boss has very similar parts of their attack patterns where they will also just be sitting still (not to mention cultist exclusively sitting still)

eol would not favor homing weapons nearly as much as she currently does if it wasn’t for her having dr during sun dance

[echo leaf]

if you're right in saying that the dr during sun dance is to punish subduction slicer stealth, then can't eol just be given a damage resistance to subduction slicer?

[novel belfry]

h

[misty lichen]

to things like it

things that benefit against enemies standing still

[echo leaf]

Ah

[misty lichen]

even then there’s not that many

[heavy cipher]

i'm just putting this here in addition to my suggestion in #suggestions-posting
the small brownish shield is the one from the lunic corps armor. the blue shield is the one from the rover drive.
the other two pics demonstrate dyeing the rover drive shield; a feature i suggest being added to the lunic corps armor shield too.

[grave zinc]

@fathom sequoia - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Re-tier Ceaseless Hunger Potions]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@void crow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[QOL: Purification Powder Being Able to Purify Background Walls]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@safe pine - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a shimmer recipe for Cryonic Ore, probably by throwing in Hallowed or Perennial]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lapis canyon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Vanilla Boss Healthbar display all three Profaned Guardians total healthpool]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[median scaffold]

Why, tho

[neat linden]

would be pretty cool if there were dev comments attached to some rejections/approvals because idunno either

[echo lion]

That might be because I had a hand in how the suggestion was created

And I'm an avid fan of true melee

I also agree with the statement that, irrespective of respect for the true melee subclass, weapons shouldn't be completely unable to deal damage to a boss because of range limitations

[chilly narwhal]

I have An idea:

Make us able to grow the flowers and trees that spawn in brimstone crags

Lava lilies and spinal trees

[echo leaf]

Alright, put it in #suggestions-posting according to the proper formatting rules

[oblique otter]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Small_Spine

i dont know if it works, but there's also cinder blossom seeds that grows the pink grass

[serene vapor]

I really wish they’d notice craftable gladiator armor

[chilly narwhal]

I didn't know about the spine thing

But also

The flowers are still non-growable

[median scaffold]

I don't know if it should be added or not

A way to get gladiator armor not by only griding the living shit out of the enemies is needed, but maybe not blend crafting it?

[ripe owl]

Bland*

[drowsy plank]

honestly glad is about as hard to get as fossil and you already can shimmer the pieces into each other

id say the only issue is ug desert is massive and marble biomes. are Not

you know fuck big hive when we getting big marble and big granite (also where the shrines would spawn)

[fleet grotto]

actually? good idea

[gray bone]

while the tooltip is a bit weird (i think the format of coloured text beneath the stats is better) i feel like empyrean armour definitely does have stuff to do with the cosmos

[fervent meadow]

yeah i think it should probably be reformatted and made consistent through the set but the tooltip itself makes sense

[gray bone]

agreed

[umbral gazelle]

why only the cloak though

[gray bone]

yeah that's weird

but i think what the tooltip says i fine

for consistency though, it should be on all 3 pieces and probably be coloured or something to make it more obviously flavour text, as far as i'm concerned

[drowsy plank]

meld block coming never

[wide river]

Ye Olde Sprite Needed Suggestion™️

[echo leaf]

no... no meld construct construct?

[nocturne elbow]

Anyone knows if it's possible to move the cooldown rack anywhere I wan't like adrenaline, rage and other meters? I'd love to put it closer to the middle so I can see the cooldowns better, but I don't see any options for that. If there's no such thing, I'd really love for it to be added.

[grim tusk]

Iirc no

You can make the cooldown rack smaller though

[nocturne elbow]

But that just makes it less visible, which is the opposite of what I want

[charred karma]

heres a suggestion, how about you make things sell for less than you fucking buy them

theres no way the game can fuck that up

legit 3 different merchants that do that

[grim tusk]

Didnt we already fix that happening?

Merchant
Amidias
Bandit
Wizard
Dye trader

Dont tell me theres yet another one

[golden sonnet]

I made a full list in that one report thread

[drowsy plank]

chill
also that's already fixed in changelogs if you'd bothered to check them

45 - Fixed money laundering exploits with several items. - Done
#changelogs message

[sturdy basin]

Wdym they patched out laundering, this is an outrage

Can’t believe calamity is better at stopping organized crime than world governments

[novel belfry]

i love that its called MONEY LAUNDERING

[grim tusk]

And it was the npcs i listed

Those npcs sold the items that allowed you to launder money

[golden sonnet]

Yep

[hearty needle]

i see that many suggestions for wulfrum doors, platforms, and chests were accepted

is there any estimate on when these will be added

the children yearn for the wulfrum

[golden sonnet]

It's just waiting for sprites

And the sprites are pretty much always busy so stuff like that isn't a huge priority

You would be best off getting people to submit it via the calamity art server

[hearty needle]

if that's what it takes then I'll honestly learn how to sprite just for the doors

and the platforms and chests

[river lily]

wulfrum pig

[hearty needle]

would the wulfrum doors be like lab doors or regular doors? (i know you dont know probably but what would you guess it is)

[fathom sequoia]

unlucky

[drowsy plank]

literally up to ur discretion

if you make the sprites it can be whatever you want

same with like any missing furniture

[hearty needle]

as long as theyre good enough yeah

[drowsy plank]

if someone decides to make auric gates boom they'll exist

[hearty needle]

me omw to make scones for everything

[drowsy plank]

yeah p much

lmao

[hearty needle]

i know what im gonna do this summer vacation

and this is for absolutely ALL missing furniture?

like if i felt like it i could make wulfrum lab furniture

[drowsy plank]

hm
i feel like yeah prolly
you do still need to go through the caldevs art standards and what they actually consider fitting for the set but like

yeah i dont see any reason they wouldnt accept these kinds of submissions

[golden sonnet]

And if yours are not to standard, there is a 70% chance it will motivate somebody else to try to sprite it

[hearty needle]

if it's not up to standard i will try again

and again

and again

one day it will work and ill get better each time too

[golden sonnet]

I don't get this, you just follow where it went

It isn't supposed to leave a permanent trail

And you can use it 10 times per charge

And it isn't a "wasted mechanism" as you keep the item, it just uses charge

[golden sonnet]

@merry sable

[merry sable]

how do i keep it

i used one and it went poof

am i supposed to find it

[golden sonnet]

No

Test with calamity only

As it should never leave your inventory

[merry sable]

i have no idea

[drowsy plank]

huh

this feels like a bug

[golden sonnet]

If it is being consumed, then it is yes

[merry sable]

it is for me

[golden sonnet]

Again, test with Calamity only

[fervent orbit]

@glad tundra this is so u can obtain acid rain tier 1 and 2 even if u have progressed to tier 3

[golden sonnet]

???

They are saying remove the items

How is having more items making it more obtainable

[fervent orbit]

why

[glad tundra]

yeah im asking to remove ruinous soul from the recipe

theres no reason for it to have it if the event is post as

[fervent orbit]

the point of the recipe is to be obtainable in tier 3, not in tier 1 and 2

[golden sonnet]

Oh, they didn't disable the normal method

You are right then

[fervent orbit]

of course they didnt?????

why would t1&2 be post polter only?

[golden sonnet]

Wait

Noob

Are you able to do something in game for me

[fervent orbit]

u get it via using the music box accessory

no

[glad tundra]

the normal method is still useable but its still pointless to make it require ruinous souls and ancient manipulator

[fervent orbit]

its to lock it

so u have to use the normal method on tier

[glad tundra]

why does it need to be locked though, why shouldnt you be able to craft it and obtain it normally ontier

[golden sonnet]

Because there would be little reason to use the actual method

[fervent orbit]

to make u do the normal method

please stop making this a cyclical conversation

[glad tundra]

no it wont though

it would realistically take more effort to craft it then just use the music box to obtain it

[golden sonnet]

Not really, that recipe is super easy and could be crafted after the event, while recording the music box requires you to be in the event and understand how music boxes work

[novel belfry]

Wtf is this recipe

[golden sonnet]

It's because the theme doesn't play once you are in tier 3, so it uses tier 3 materials

As otherwise you just record it during the event

[sleek turret]

does it hurt that much to remove ruinous souls and replace ancient manipulator for a mythril/iron anvil

🥹

[glad tundra]

apparently so

[fervent orbit]

yes

[sand marlin]

I think music box method is like super free and I think that because of it being super free there shouldn't be an alternative method available immediately because that's just a random recipe bloat that doesn't need existing. The only reason it exists atm is because the normal method becomes unavailable later on, so that you do not get locked away from it there is a recipe for it instead which costs basically nothing. Making it available beforehand beats the entire point

[crude geode]

^^^^^

It exists as a backup method

[misty lichen]

the real answer is

the recipe should just be removed and changed into a shimmer of the tier 3 music box lmao

[grim tusk]

TRUE

[sand marlin]

Can spare the consistency for that yeah that sounds pretty good

[golden sonnet]

Besides breaking the convention of music boxes shimmering to the default music box, this is a great idea

[misty lichen]

you’d just be able to shimmer it twice if you want the music box

[glad tundra]

if you really want another music box just buy another lol

[golden sonnet]

Yes, I just meant it would break consistency

[crude geode]

Consistency is for nerds

[drowsy plank]

simple like schmoovi said, just shimmer it twice

like peeling back the layers of an onion

[worthy lintel]

please for the love of god no more stuff tied to shimmer

😭

[misty lichen]

oh so you want the random recipe instead

[royal tapir]

Shimmer would be better than removing the Ruinous Soul

[crude geode]

I’ll tie you to shimmer

[worthy lintel]

asgafgaghredagb

[misty lichen]

permanently lose corporeality

[sand marlin]

I mean the real question is, Is Shimmer better than keeping the recipe since Ruinous Soul makes sense just fine

[novel belfry]

jesus christ just remove the fucking ruinous soul

[royal tapir]

Not with that attitude

[uneven adder]

why

it's a mechanic now, adding to it is cool

[river lily]

#suggestions-posting message

huh

why does it

why does it use

ruin

why

[fervent orbit]

scroll up

i explained why

[river lily]

that feels so random imagine trying to craft Titanium Walls and they need a Exodium Cluster for some reason

[golden sonnet]

That is an entirely outlandish comparison

[crude geode]

.

It exists as a backup for the normal method since you can get locked out of it

[river lily]

Wait does calamity not add recipes for the other music boxes

I swore it did

[golden sonnet]

The only ones that have recipes are those that can't be obtained otherwise

[river lily]

Oh

Then i don't really care i guess lol

In my game the music boxes have recipes but i guess that might just be from calamity music or vanilla calamity music???

[wide river]

The only four with recipes

[river lily]

Yeah i checked the wiki and was confused

[golden sonnet]

And the title screen one

So 5

Oh wiat

Nvm

I forgot they changed the recipe of that

It's in that image I just forgot it no longer uses like every box in the game

[wide river]

The vanilla title screen music box needs a stupid amount of other music boxes, but not the Cal one

[median scaffold]

I still don't know how Music Boxes work, bruh

[sleek turret]

you equip the music box item sold by the wizard and the music box has a chance to record the music playing currently in your situation

[golden sonnet]

It used to

[wide river]

I never said it didn't
I was going off of current recipes, not past ones

[sleek turret]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[golden sonnet]

Ye

[wide river]

It also can't record if the game volume is at 0 or if the music box is in a vanity slot

[novel belfry]

no but really i just dont see the reason to not remove the ruinous soul

[crude geode]

it's meant to be a catchup recipe, not one you do on tier

if you remove the ruinous souls, there's no reason to actually do the process of recording the music

[sand marlin]

If you've read up, you could see the reason

[novel belfry]

and i dont quite agree with it

[sand marlin]

Not agreeing with a reason =/= not seeing a reason

As long as you understand

[novel belfry]

yeah thats just poor wording

but either way this is like

the smallest of suggs

[sand marlin]

I would say it's still easier to record since you would need materials from the event instead of bringing a music box prior which would've recorded it before you even got some materials and this further proves it'd just be recipe bloat if it was allowed any earlier

Ignoring like the entire process of crafting something

You get the music box before you even get the materials

[novel belfry]

its literally just buy an empty music box from teh wizard and equip it while trying to survive the acid rain, then kablam

oh, now i get why im so annoyed about this convo

its literally just a music box

a vanity item

why are we trying to balance a VANITY item

[sand marlin]

No that doesn't make any sense

If you just do whatever you want without a proper line of reasoning, it's going to end up bad

That's why this convo exists

[novel belfry]

why does that not make sense

its a music box

it just gives a song

[buoyant idol]

Make it cost more souls.

True solution here.

[novel belfry]

theres no reason to go through complex reasoning for trying to keep a material that comes from a post-ml boss

in a music box for a prehm/hm event

[sand marlin]

It's literally recipe bloat

It has no reason to exist

It's not even easier to craft

[novel belfry]

its not. the recipe's entire existence is that you cant get the acid rain t1/2 music box when you go into t3

[sand marlin]

Yes

That is why the souls are there

[novel belfry]

???

[sand marlin]

No actually

1 soul

[novel belfry]

that is not a reason

at least its one soul

thats actually a logical reason

[sand marlin]

I was referring to availability beforehand not after

And you are confirming it

[heavy cipher]

yall stupid today?

[sand marlin]

Its entire point is to make it available even after you reach T3 acid rain

[buoyant idol]

Yeah.

[sand marlin]

The ruinous soul is adding no harm

[wide river]

You can get the music box pre-Tier 3, the crafting recipe just gives a guaranteed method if you missed it

It's in a similar (though clearly not identical) vein as to why certain Bestiary entries are auto-unlocked from certain unavoidable actions: Defeating Skeletron also gives Dungeon Guardian bestiary entry, and defeating any two of Giant Shellies, Crawdads, and Salamanders automatically unlocks the third (as only two can spawn per world)

[novel belfry]

okay i think i get it now

[fossil finch]

This is NOT Minecraft we do not need material sinks

[distant gyro]

funnily enough looking at that suggestion i find the amount of materials more of notice than the soul lock because i actually understand what the latter is for

1 music box + 10 sulphuric scales + 1 ruinous soul would be my simplification

also by any concerns over this remember that the vanilla title screen music box exists
the thing literally playing before you start "playing the game"
requires a music box of queen slime, empress of light, and duke fishron

[median scaffold]

Well, uhhh

Does Calamity changes the crafting or smth?

[distant gyro]

no

doesnt really matter too much anyway

music box even by itself is a hardmode item sold by the wizard and you can call that "for no reason"

[drowsy plank]

oh it's

because those are all the songs added alongside that track

that's

idk how i feel about that

[distant gyro]

idk just play along with it i guess

[buoyant idol]

Imo that's not Calamity's problem to solve.

[distant gyro]

though out of consistency on music box crafting in vanilla i kinda want the same handle just for the fun of it

maybe less cruel about it though

[distant gyro]

the vanilla variation
Music Box (Sulphurous Sea Day) Music Box (Sulphurous Sea Night) Music Box (Acid Rain - Tier 3) @Tinkerer's Workshop
careful what you wish for

[olive saddle]

Lot a decent suggs

The meld sink is a funny one

[echo leaf]

Glad you liked it, I had to archive a meld toilet for that one

[oblique otter]

I don't find suspicious scrap searching that hard

at the start of hardmode i got at least 2 already

[echo leaf]

well, you're already at the perfect time to use the SHPC and you need two more

[oblique otter]

fine by me

It kinda rewards you for exploring the caves too

we're not counting onyx drill here

[echo leaf]

i guess it might be a personal thing? right now I'm speeding through the game to see how mage plays

My friend was complaining about it and I wanted to do a run to learn more about it

[oblique otter]

hmm.

If you're speeding through the game then it's on you

use other weapon

[echo leaf]

but I wanna use the SHPC, it looks neat!

[oblique otter]

Work for it!

[echo leaf]

No worries, though. I used Terramap and used the underworld to get to the workshops easily.

[oblique otter]

or get onyx and start drilling

[oblique otter]

:(

[echo leaf]

Gonna get an armor pen upgrade and beat the hell out of Plantera

[novel belfry]

I understand the current method of obtaining sus scrap is to increase interest in finding the mini arsenal labs, but yknow what

i think arsenal labs that dont have a bio-center have no rights and should have their sus scrap moved to the bio-center labs

[echo leaf]

the mini labs are great finds in the early game

endurance potions and lifeforce potions, 6-ish gold, some healing potions- they're fantastic in pre-hardmode

they just fall off later on, and they're not worth actively seeking out

They're a little goodie bag hidden underground for you

[oblique otter]

@hearty needle I don't know if it's required or not but it's a donor item so you have to let the donor know about this..?

[hearty needle]

oh ok

i sent them a message asking if it was ok

[hearty needle]

ill edit the suggestion saying that i got their permission when they respond

and ofc ill delete it if they say no

[drowsy plank]

cant you just

wear a different piece of armor over it?

in vanity slots?

or is this for the headgear part specifically

[wide river]

I imagine they want the these things without the green hair

[drowsy plank]

i figured

[umbral gazelle]

me omw to donate for the most controversial donor item ever then disable dm and let people infuriated because they cant make a change about it

and then if they somehow passed ill say no to every suggestion request

[buoyant idol]

Me on my way to donate a permanent consumable that randomizes volume by 15% but also gives 3 defense:

[echo leaf]

Suggestion: Permanent Odd Mushroom

[ripe owl]

No

[echo leaf]

So I just discovered an infinite poo exploit but I'm not sure if I should suggest it be patched or not

[oblique otter]

either it's a bug or a feature

even then, what are you going to do with 97 stacks of poo

[echo leaf]

make housing for the angler

[oblique otter]

tbh angler isn't even that bad

i don't get the hate

[crude geode]

People hate fishing

[hearty needle]

yeah

[tardy geyser]

Theres a twin tails hair style

Pretty sure you can select it when creating a character too

[hearty needle]

🤷‍♀️

ill just delete it ig

i dont care that that much for it

[sleek turret]

thank you painting reference

[umbral gazelle]

#suggestions-posting message @neat fiber what

[undone cedar]

@neat fiber dont shitpost in suggestions

[warm karma]

I got an amazing suggestion

Misa amane fashion, it works like the red bow as well

[oblique otter]

???

[warped vector]

61 leviathans were harmed in this suggestion.

[olive saddle]

i was gonna say "unlucky!" but holy lord 61

[warped vector]

on tier too!

[fervent orbit]

this reminds me of a friend of mine grinding seas searing in a hardcore world

did 36 scoogs

died

did another 20 or so in another world

only then got it

[warped vector]

yep

for a rare drop it is tedious af to farm

get too*

[hearty needle]

is it still as bad with galaxy pearl and luck potions

[fleet grotto]

didn't think boss drops were affected by luck

[hearty needle]

oof

[versed cape]

suggestion: revert the yharon cahnge its cringe

[fleet grotto]

yeah yharon should spawn detonating fireballs again

[echo leaf]

If the rare drop you're specifically farming is The Community, personally I'd just skip it for now and come back post-ML

[golden sonnet]

Gonna be honest, this logic applies to literally every item in the game

You will have to grind for something eventually, and 10% isn't that bad

[buoyant idol]

Honestly Calamity makes the game too easy, part of Terraria is how sometimes you don’t get what you want.

[golden sonnet]

In some cases I think making it easier is deserved and a life saver, other times it just invalidates entire aspects of the game

I even made an entire suggestion about nerfing or removing calamity QoL recipes

[buoyant idol]

Calamity removes a large portion of the Terraria magic like that.

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, like shadow key does not need a recipe when it's garenteed in the forsaken archive, staff of regrowth and anklet of the wind do not need a recipe when it's garenteed in the vernal pass, ankh items do not need recipes now that shimmer exists and you only need to farm half as many of the items, etc

Why is amber hook changed to shimmer into sandstorm when sandstorm already has an easy crafting recipe

I could go on

[buoyant idol]

It’s impossible to suggest removing them since players don’t like getting nerfed.

[golden sonnet]

I mean, I got the suggestion passed, it was just fairly vague so up to the devs what they do with it

#suggestions-discussion message

[golden sonnet]

And that often results in it not really being implemented as well, so it might just be in limbo

[buoyant idol]

Calamity made me accustomed to getting whatever I want and partially made me lose interest in Terraria.

[golden sonnet]

I get that people don't like certain aspects of the game, but I think people are too obsessed with being optimal

Like, if you don't want to put in the effort to fish or farm for an item, then you probably don't need that item to beat the boss, you don't have to have 100% meta gear 100% of the time

Which leads to the QoL recipes that make everything too easy

For example, I think RoD is a stupidly rare item, but it's also literally never needed for boss fights. If you want that extra advantage you should have to work for it a little imo. And if it's deemed to be too much work, increase the drop chances rather than just making it free

Same with ankh materials and biome key, if these items are issues I would way rather have the drop rates buffed than just entirely ignore the way to get them

[distant gyro]

i partially agree but at the same time

if calamity doesnt do it the players will find a way to do it

its a bit of a qol conundrum

there's a lot of mods that hold a huge grip as essential qol mods

it is ideal that starting players dont have to enter such a gigantic rabbit hole of essential mods they have to play with

[frozen hornet]

Would it be against the rules to suggest improving the jailor's lightning since there's already a better looking lightning effect in the game (teslastaff)

[misty lichen]

so? let them

[distant gyro]

with npc potion selling and stuff yeah

other things are still to be kept as per dev decision

while others will always remain in the hands of other mods ie. recipe browser

forgot to mention some items are also in a bit of a trap of being stuck in player consciousness forever

[fervent orbit]

no

[distant gyro]

society if rod of discord was forever left to rot but it eventually got to the point of item being important

and you cant just reverse that decision without a brainwipe

[sleek turret]

how life felt after deleting the qol mod list

[drowsy plank]

i mean

do you need sandstorms pre-Adamantite/Titanium tier

[fossil finch]

When you don't play ca

[drowsy plank]

forbidden frags all need those bars to craft

all of their items

[fossil finch]

there's uh

Shadowlamp maybe

[oblique otter]

is that that underground sert

[misty lichen]

bottle elemental items

sand and rare sand

[oblique otter]

isn't that underground desrrt

[drowsy plank]

HotE isnt real i do not acknowledge it

[misty lichen]

lamp also needs adamantite

[oblique otter]

ah

[misty lichen]

for the full craft

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[fossil finch]

Then yeah whatever

[oblique otter]

wow..no ❗ today

[drowsy plank]

beyond like exactly bottle elementals and like. idk the vanilla sandstorm bottle craft this is just like. whatever

[fossil finch]

Elementals are so whatever too,

[oblique otter]

move arid artifact into desert scourge's drop

[fossil finch]

[drowsy plank]

move arid artifact to great sand shark drop, as it is a well known and commonly fought (mini)boss

this will surely fix the issue

[oblique otter]

move arid artifact to earth elemental

surely that's a good suggestion ||||

[drowsy plank]

who is this earth elemental you speak of there are no elementals in calamity mod

[oblique otter]

oh yeah i was just imagining things sorry

[drowsy plank]

it's fine; i sure am glad there are no elementals in this mod! it would be weird if there were, clearly.

[fleet grotto]

surely there aren't 2 bosses that are just elementals

[misty lichen]

the only elemental i know is chaos

[fleet grotto]

nah