suggestions-discussion

[sleek turret]

God

So it's causing a constant imbalance between A and B all the time

In different tiers

If A is put into B's tier it's better than B weapon

[small timber]

which is why I think just simply reducing minion slots (and option to get more) will lead to massive problem yes (eg: at some point I think even bewitching table and summoning potion will be changed from 1 slot -> 10% summon damage)

I am not sure if this is still the case of course

[sleek turret]

Ta fechado então? (can we end this discussion alredy it's draining my energy)

[small timber]

I mean you asked me so I answered on it

[sleek turret]

Sure

I admit I went more aggresively on that question, so it's my fault on that

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[small timber]

nah it is fine, I didnt take it as aggressive, I just thought what I said was misunderstood and wanted to clarified it

[sleek turret]

Ok

Good night.

[grizzled dome]

...dumb idea which I don't think I want to formally suggest, but I'm posting it here because maybe it could be good (unless it counts as a specific item suggestion; I'm genuiney not certain): combine Bewitching Table, Sharpening Station, Ammo Box, and Crystal Ball into a single interactable that gives all four buffs. This is probably bad and unnecessary.

[grim tusk]

If its bad and unnecessary, what is the point of it?

also Fargo’s Mutant adds the Omnistation which practically does what you want

[proven needle]

Would it be too much to also ask that Cirrus' drinks also be able to be placed on Plates?

since vanilla Ale and Sake can also be placed on Plates?

[drowsy plank]

art server moment

[misty lichen]

that sounds reasonable, things like grape juice and milkshakes are also placeable

[proven needle]

guess ill add that to the suggestion then, eh?

[ripe owl]

I uh

I'm not sure about this one

[small timber]

I am almost certain this is a ❗ purely because it ask for adding an additional mod/add-on

[sand marlin]

Or setting

The addon part can just be removed, or should be actually

Kind of agree it's very awkward having giant guns that are bigger than the player but uh asking an addon for it is a no

@bright quartz ^

For the most part you need to remove the addon part and add some more reasoning there

Idk if even a setting/config would work for this but that's the best you get besides just like making it be that way by default

[median scaffold]

There was a whip conversation
That's scary

[drowsy plank]

very

[median scaffold]

I have a suggestion, kinda

[sleek turret]

Whip Discussions! (Now with less dogpiling!)

[median scaffold]

(People still hate summoner!)

[novel belfry]

arguably worse in my opinion is the new subsuming vortex resprite

that book was not meant for us

[sleek turret]

Subwoofer Vortex

[bright quartz]

I didn’t insist on an addon; for this, of course, it would be best to make a setting. In Terraria 1.3 there was mod, item editor, which allowed you to change the size of the object. But this mod is not available on 1.4. But it would be cool to have a checkbox in the mod settings that would instantly change the weapon size to normal/large.

What was the reason for making such giant guns? They even really stand out among the rest of the vanilla weapons, which fit correctly in the hands, but that doesn't make them funny/cool/unique (except to maybe a seven year old). IMHO

[median scaffold]

First of all, Calamity isn't trying to look like to the Vanilla most of the times, having it's own art style
The second, I won't be arguining with some like Tractis' Harmer or Exo Blade being pretty big (those are not too big to be annoying, tho), but most of the guns and even bows (even post-ml) aren't gigantic at all

Also, yeah, made a suggestion
Would love to hear your opinions

[fervent orbit]

gsd is an exception due to auric tesla iirc

[median scaffold]

The only real spicific case for a different button is God slayer dash, clearly being made for Melee and Ranger Auric sets.
Lemme rewrite this one, tho

[fervent orbit]

i think tarragon and bloodflare have their own keys or smthn

[median scaffold]

(Rewrited)

[median scaffold]

No, it doesn't, actually

I thought about the same with Prismatic

[fervent orbit]

o

actually wait

[fervent orbit]

i think u cant have both a tarragon and a bloodflare set ability

thats why

[median scaffold]

Yeah, that's why I said "Melee and Ranger"

Melee is Tarragon cloak and Ranger is Bloodflare souls (no other active set bonuses for other classes)

[median scaffold]

Is there anything else you can say?

[fervent orbit]

uhh

i thought there were more examples for some reason

[median scaffold]

I thought too, again
But it was suprisingly consistent

The calamity's 2 out of 4 (actually, it's 3 out of 5) are pretty weird, tho

[novel belfry]

calamity should do something similar to what it does to dashes: give an option between vanilla's double tap (W or S), or a singular button

[median scaffold]

I think it should be an option, like W or S for double-tap
Making them both will be rather weird and pretty much needless

(I won't make this as a part of suggestion. Devs, if they want this, will make this)

[novel belfry]

i probably would advise adding it as part of a suggestion

[median scaffold]

Hm... I think it's just... wouldn't be needed

[novel belfry]

then again, they added a dash button bind as an alternative to double-tapping for dashes

[median scaffold]

I mean as a part of the suggestion

Okay, check the suggestion again

[drowsy plank]

put vortex on armor hotkey

[median scaffold]

[small timber]

oh right, suggestion bot also didnt send this week right?

or is it just not posting in this channel

I saw some suggestions from last week getting ✅ but not the last last week
I call this rigged

[umbral gazelle]

he doesnt feel quite suggestion this week

[kindred creek]

Would a suggestion to make a message when you boot up the world to send a message that suggest to download boss checklist and recipe browser be allowed? I feel like these mods make it so much easier to understand what to do next, especially for new players. I understand the wiki exists, but boss checklist really makes the mod way easier to understand, especially for new players.

[small timber]

definitely no

1. it is kinda weird to advertise other mods
2. boss checklist is kind of shit at the moment and keep breaking (for no reason whatsoever)

[drowsy plank]

which is also why we dont advertise other mods

[kindred creek]

Got it. What about my other suggestion?

[drowsy plank]

cal would sooner implement these features itself than rely on outside sources which can be prone to breaking; it's bad enough keeping up with tmod

also idk, it's fine but i dont even know if it's possible

[small timber]

probably possible, but personally I dont really see a necessity to make the wiki link last longer than it currently is

since well, it already last decently long

and also the ideal state of the game is that you never have to use wiki
wiki exist as a bandaid, not the primary solution to issues
so it should not be advertised at the frontpage as if it is a complete necessity, if that is the case the mod should be made more intuitive instead

just a mention to present an "option" for those who want to use it is good enough

[sand marlin]

I wish the plushie message had a config

There's already a wiki message config surely it wouldn't be that hard to implement that and reduce chat spam as much as possible

[grizzled dome]

...the issue with the idea to always make Calamity's message appear last is that it presumes none of the other mods are trying to make a message always appear last.

[misty lichen]

yeah considering things like idk an epilepsy warning would be way more important than a wiki you assumed would already exist

[grizzled dome]

Yes, but I was too tired to think of that; I was moreso thinking that if two mods try to make their message appear last, one of them will by definition fail to do that.

[coral carbon]

In the worst case, it becomes a rush condition

[olive saddle]

this isnt a valid suggestion but id like to see more coop shit tbh

like the fuckin

affliction

shits great

i believe this falls under the "item addition" of suggestion which is why its probably invaid

[small timber]

you can, in fact, very likely suggest it as long as it is not too specific

eg: you can suggest "add more multiplayer/coop item like affliction"

but not "Please add combo 'spirit link' accessories that only function if multiplayer equip the same accessory at once that provide multiplicative hp regen bonus to each other but also cause them to share the same hp bar and every time one of the linked player take damage the other gain a short duration damage boost and reduce defense while the player who had taken hit will have increase defense but reduce damage and this item cannot be crafted but must be discovered by having multiplayer player enter the abyss at once and using rod of discord at the same milliseconds to summon 2 adult giant squid..."

you get the idea, suggestion for the idea of "coop accessory" is likely acceptable in the current rule set, as long as you are not overly specific

[olive saddle]

oh, well thats lucky

[olive saddle]

i hope thats a good sugg

[sleek turret]

Calamity alredy adds a failsafe in case the chat gets filled with other mods text messages by just making these messages appear 12 to 20 seconds into a world

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Status_messages#Other

[molten cedar]

Is there anyway i can see easier when using apotheosis, its good but i cant see. It does 1.5 million like cmon mayn

[median scaffold]

It's a weird thing to type in here, but maybe only Fargo's mutant mod

[olive saddle]

no, and on top of that

apotheosis sucks ass

which is unfortuante because its SICK AS FUCK

[median scaffold]

Shadowspec weapons are weird, ngl

[royal tapir]

Shadowspec balance does not exist

[median scaffold]

Yes

Especially when there's 6 melee ones and 2 rogue

[proper granite]

so i tried in in a real run and it turns out you can, in fact, get the burning sea pre-boss

or post-skeletron, if you dont fancy hoiking into the dungeon to avoid the dungeon guardians

[median scaffold]

Uh, how?

[proper granite]

i remember someone saying something about altars not being able to shimmer into unholy cores in a future update but i just wanted to check to make sure, is that already planned?

[proper granite]

you dont need a mythril anvil to make the burning sea which means all you need is a spell tome and unholy cores

spell tomes can be obtained by opening the unlocked chest in the ceaseless void arena (by hoiking or killing skeletron to allow passage)

unholy cores can be obtained, in a quite large number, by shimmering the furniture used in the crags

it was a hypothetical that was brought up when i was talking about something else in this channel but uhhhhhhhh

i did it

[sand marlin]

You can only get 35

Well

"Only"

It's not a large amount but it's good enough for burning sea and possible other crafts if there were any at all

[proper granite]

not that you can do anything else with it without a mythril anvil

the reason you can make burning sea is because pretty much all book crafts only require the bookcase

[sand marlin]

Nah here it'd be because the altars are not blacklisted

[proper granite]

before cosmic anvil recipe was made easier to craft i remember using this to get the event horizon spelltome early

[molten cedar]

it does the most dps though?

for mage

well for me

1.5 million dps but it covers the screen, my only problem

eternity does 400k dps

over 3x

[olive saddle]

Im not exactly sure how it sucks but on bossrush it performs the slowest. Taking i think 20-45 minutes to clear it entirely

Compare that to eternitys say...

Like 15 minute MAX

#suggestions-posting message
I feel like there's numbers to be crunched here

Fishing power plays a role in this stuff

[potent veldt]

I had the highest possible consistent fishing power at the given point of progression

[olive saddle]

Well fuckin jesus

You can get gold fishing rod through the angler easter egg

[potent veldt]

And I dont know if it applies to Empress tbh, because Empress's chance is very specifically labelled as just "3%"

[olive saddle]

I've had a similar issue with polaris polarfish or whatever its called

[potent veldt]

And I can't find any other sources anywhere on if the chance can be increased or if fishing power even applies

[olive saddle]

Fishing power in general is such an enigmatic stat

Cuz that percent is going to fluctuate with fishing power

[potent veldt]

It probably is effected by fishing power, since it'd be kinda weird it weren't tbh

[olive saddle]

Oh it definitely is

[potent veldt]

But again, I had the highest consistent I could get without going for golden rod

[olive saddle]

I would ask mod conflict but this seems too specific

[potent veldt]

As is evident by somehow even getting a frog leg

Only content mods I have are Fargos-mutant and Infernum

Which, I dont know why either would touch this

[drowsy plank]

well the answer is you're expected to get golden rod
but being honest you look like you have multiple lures which does mean there are other mods in here

[olive saddle]

That's fargos

[potent veldt]

Fargos-mutant adds a lure to the crimson/corrupted rods

[olive saddle]

I... seriously doubt thatd fuck with it

[potent veldt]

That's, it

[drowsy plank]

also they probably dont but that doesnt mean anything because boss checklist doesnt mean to make the sulph sea disappear but it still does

this is just the nature of other mods existing

[olive saddle]

It is still a possibility because bugs are... bugs, unpredictable and often elusive

[potent veldt]

I'd agree if I simply never got the Empress, or if the fishing loot-table was clogged with other items, or if the Sunken Sea were changed somehow by one of these mods

But none of those are true

Every item I got was from the normal loot table from Calamity itself

[olive saddle]

Yea theres a hook thats in the sunken sea

It takes me about 1-3 mins to get it

[sand marlin]

1- Why would you fish for that long
2- If you don't want to bother with rng just cheat it in

[drowsy plank]

lol it got flagged

[potent veldt]

So if it is a mod conflict that means it's such an insanely specific conflict that it not only doesn't negate getting the item, but instead drastically lowers the chance to get it

Which I just don't think is likely

[drowsy plank]

okay regardless idk man it sounds like ur complaining that the rare fishing weapon drop was rare

[olive saddle]

It may just eliminate it entirely

[fervent orbit]

anyone know sparkling empress' internal name? trying to search for it but its clearly not there

[olive saddle]

Bugs are again elusive

[olive saddle]

Id or internal name?

[fervent orbit]

internal name

[olive saddle]

No clue

[fervent orbit]

want to verify the 3% chance thing

[drowsy plank]

it's just called SparklingEmpress noob

[royal tapir]

It’s not in the Weapons folder

[fervent orbit]

oh ok

[drowsy plank]

smh my head not using visual studio

[olive saddle]

That's firefox i think

[fervent orbit]

OH

theres a seperate thing for fishing shit

[drowsy plank]

[olive saddle]

I will say to the suggestion

Fishing power is so fucking enigmatic. You dont get a gague for what increasing it does. I mean we know what it does but its still a bit strange and so many random factors increase it, I feel it and luck could do with some explaining somewhere in the game

[dense ferry]

More reasons as to why fishing is a mistake

[drowsy plank]

you see the problem is then you have to explain fishing power and luck and it's already hard enough to do with a wiki page

[sand marlin]

Fishing power increases rare drop chances as it increases

You will get the most common drops at lower fishing power and rarer common drops at higher fishing power

[royal tapir]

YOUR a mis

[sleek turret]

if you have like, 300 fishing power which is insane

[dense ferry]

FUCK YOU

[sleek turret]

1/15 chance of getting an extremely rare drop according to the wiki

[fervent orbit]

// This can theoretically be exploited by killing the boss on Expert, then turning on Rev to open the bags.
// We don't care.

[sleek turret]

(with 300 FP)

[fervent orbit]

love this comment honestly

[royal tapir]

I like how you can instantly tell that’s an Ozz comment

[sleek turret]

The hardest part is the weather conditions

Atleast in Vanilla Classic

[olive saddle]

"Increasing your luck makes rare items drop more frequently and skews odds in your favor" would be a fine starting point I'd say. Definitely not a full explanation as that's what the wiki is for but luck is explaned literally no where as far as I know

[sleek turret]

Because you can skip that if you're playing Journey or just playing Cal in general (cosmolight and torrential tear)

[olive saddle]

Besides the wizard giving elusive comments about how nice or putrid you smell or something

[sleek turret]

Moon phases are also ??????

[olive saddle]

Fucking moon phases affect it wtf???

Also sitting in a chair???

[drowsy plank]

mhm

[sleek turret]

Yes

[royal tapir]

LMAO

[sleek turret]

Blood Moon (always a full moon) and Full Moon itself give you a multiplicative boost

[royal tapir]

Love this game

[fervent orbit]

being drunk too

[sleek turret]

Yep

[wide river]

I can get moon phases through some avenue of bullshittery
But a chair is :hdflr:

[sleek turret]

Sitting on a toilet (any) and having the Typsy buff give you 5+ FP each

[fervent orbit]

sitting makes you more concentrated and therefore better at fishing

[olive saddle]

Also why does the inner fucking tube make you better at fishing??!?!????

[drowsy plank]

they had to buff it somehow

[olive saddle]

What in gods name does it do???

[sleek turret]

You feel the fish

[fervent orbit]

staying afloat in water makes you a better fisher

[drowsy plank]

the fish love inner tubes

[sleek turret]

I mean

[olive saddle]

Yea like reaching lightspeed with a jousting lance isnt broken enough as it is lol

[sleek turret]

At this point it's just Terraria being silly

[fervent orbit]

they fixed that

[olive saddle]

Cal or terraria

[sand marlin]

Cal did, vanilla saying it did is just wiki lying lmao

[sleek turret]

Terraria itself is silly and doesn't really care about consistent things except balance to be honest

[potent veldt]

Alright, let's give this another shot

[olive saddle]

There's a lot of mechanics that are just

Blank

Like you dont even know it exists

Or what it does

[fervent orbit]

gee i wonder who caused that

[sleek turret]

Having a rain in your world multiplicates your fishing power by 1.3x

[olive saddle]

What????

[sleek turret]

And multiplicators stack

[olive saddle]

What do the flying fish smell nice or something???

I don't...understand this

[fervent orbit]

me trying to find sparkling empress fishing rate is causing me to go insane

[royal tapir]

I mean rain makes more sense

[olive saddle]

I feel like you're graspin at straws but I can see how it makes more sense than a floaty tube or being fucking drunk

[sleek turret]

LMAOOOOO
Having a negative luck stat can fuck up your FP by -10% down to -40%

[olive saddle]

Oh my fucking god

[sleek turret]

If you have a positive the reverse happens

[olive saddle]

Oops you killed a ladybug there goes your fishing power and we wont tell you either

[sleek turret]

+10% up to +40%

[olive saddle]

I really feel like there should be something that should just tell people about this kind of stuff somewhere

[potent veldt]

Out of full curiosity and a refusal to believe that I somehow screwed myself on rng, I've booted up a brand new character with absolutely bare minimum mods;
Calamity Main
Calamity Music
Hero Sheet
Cheet Sheet

I equiped Devourer of Cods (to make the process significantly faster), and used normal worms with no fishing potions to use a similar overall fishing power.

Here's my results:

[olive saddle]

What the fuck

[potent veldt]

Which while not quite as bad, just brings me back to this initial pic I made, where I had a similar total item count (WITHOUT finding Empress yet, mind you)

[sleek turret]

non Guide for Critter Companionship user detected

[potent veldt]

So yes, 3% or not, this shit's fucked

[sand marlin]

I don't really find fishing an issue it's a really good calming session even if you don't enjoy sitting there for hours just fishing peacefully then fishing was not made for you

And I guess for the people who care, fishing is not required at all

[sleek turret]

It's not really

Aside from some items that might help you

[olive saddle]

Yea its good to use it but the game tells you fucking NOTHING when you kill a ladybug, you just think its another critter you accidentally killed and there's no feedback or anything that tells you that killing ladybugs is bad

[sleek turret]

Amphibian Boots for example requires the crate only boot item

Atleast in Cal

[olive saddle]

You keep wondering why that rod isnt dropping and your mind isnt going to go to that random ladybug you accidentally axed

[sleek turret]

Cal also gives you the best FP acc that you can fish in the Sulphur Sea

It gives you 30 FP for free

[sand marlin]

It's a potion mat accessory

It's not for free

If you want crates you're not using it

[olive saddle]

What is fp

Oh

[sleek turret]

Fishing Power

[olive saddle]

Nvm

[royal tapir]

Flower Points

[sand marlin]

Paper Mario

[sleek turret]

wdym not for Crates you can still get them

[sand marlin]

💥

[sleek turret]

Lol?

[sand marlin]

Have you read what it does

[sleek turret]

I did

[sand marlin]

So you can understand what I meant

Yeah?

[olive saddle]

Enchanted pearl right? Or something else

[sleek turret]

Enchanted Pearl is crate chance increased

However

Crates are affected by FP a lot

[sand marlin]

30 fp isn't much if you're tilting the scales with that item

[sleek turret]

• having the multiplicatives in the right situation you can turn that 30 to a higher number

[sand marlin]

You can get up to 300-400 pretty early

[olive saddle]

This just ties back to lack of information given to the player about their stats

[sand marlin]

And higher additive fishing power scales down

So it's just not worth

[sleek turret]

Stacking downgrades always work

[sand marlin]

That's a different thing

You have no reason not to use those

But this lowers crate chances

[olive saddle]

Wait increasing fishing power lowers crate chance??

[sand marlin]

Alluring Bait, is the item

Since it wasn't brought up and I was looking for it I mentioned it

[sand marlin]

No

[olive saddle]

Oh right alluring bait and its fuckin

[sand marlin]

It increases the player's fishing power by 30, increases the chance to catch fish that are materials in Potions, and increases the number of said fish caught.

[olive saddle]

More ingredient fish thing

[novel belfry]

I really like that ability

[olive saddle]

Its super convenient

[sand marlin]

In a vacuum getting more ingredient fish means you are getting less crates

[olive saddle]

Kiinda wish it applied to bloodfins but its not a material fish

[fervent orbit]

and also of everything else

[sand marlin]

And 30 fishing power is not big in the end

[fervent orbit]

like rare drops

[sand marlin]

Oh yeah

[sleek turret]

Yeah but also remember that the higher the fishing power the higher the chance of getting crates because they have Catch Quality

[sand marlin]

Does this use Alluring Bait as well?

[sand marlin]

Again

30 isn't really much

[fervent orbit]

(or enchanted pearl)

[sand marlin]

You can get up to 300 pretty early

So that 30 more which is also scaled down is just not worth it for that increased ingredient fish chance

[sleek turret]

It's 3 fishing bobbers combined as well as using the Lavaproof Tackle Bag and downgrades

[olive saddle]

Alluring bait increases chances to catch potion fish so regardless of the increase your crate chance is the same or worse

[potent veldt]

Alright, gonna be super real

[sleek turret]

I would say it's better

[potent veldt]

This is boldly assuming that fishing power is necessary at all in this specific instance

Because the wiki states a 3% chance

Which is very likely the base chance

Even with 3% - even with negative fishing power, these outcomes should not be statistically possible

There is no "just do better" here.

And while I do agree that "it's not that big a deal because it's not a required item", as a player it's immensely disappointing to be pretty much told "Oh well" to something I wanted to do ingame

[fervent orbit]

_ _

[potent veldt]

No tests did, no

Which I believe would make the chances of getting Empress lower, actually

[fervent orbit]

yes it would

which is why we asked

[potent veldt]

Then no, I never touched it

The last test I did was as minimalist as possible

Also I'm unclear why the sugg has a ❗ this time

[drowsy plank]

yeah @royal tapir can you explain it in here at least because im not sure what rule they're breaking or if this is just saying "we aren't going to do this even if it passed"

[potent veldt]

Like the first time maybe it had mod conflicts, sure

This time it's literally just Calamity

[sleek turret]

Why Sparkling Princess is not affected by items such as Crate Potions and Enchanted Pearl, since most of the Very Rare/Legendary (assuming Legendary is Extremely Rare according to Vanilla Wiki) drops are affected

[royal tapir]

Because honestly, the problem feels more like vanilla's fishing catch rarity mechanic than Sparkling Empress
Taking the wiki's 3% catch chance at face value is a bad idea because it's just completely untrue with how fishing works
And I don't think any devs want to completely rewrite how fishing works

[potent veldt]

I agree

But, my suggestion is the opposite of that

I understand fishing as a mechanic is kinda just a garbage dump of weird coding decisions, but my suggestion is a completely alternate way to alleviate it

I don't want anyone to rewrite how fishing works

[fervent orbit]

hey cit

do u know what it means to be a "legendary" fishing drop

[potent veldt]

If it's a 3% chance, this should not be possible - if it's less, then why isn't there an alternative?

That's what the suggestion is for

[royal tapir]

Okay you know what, if the suggestion is just to add a crafting recipe then okay that's fine
I doubt that it'll pass but it can get past suggestion-posting

[fervent orbit]

i think im a bit blind since i cant see it in the wiki

also btw sparkling empress isnt 3%, its a legendary fishing catch

[potent veldt]

Maybe it just means rarity?

[sleek turret]

I assume Legendary drops are the same as how Vanilla lists Extremely Rare drops

Since I feel it's confusing the Catch rarity

[royal tapir]

Probably just the internal variable for what the wiki labels as Extremely Rare

[fervent orbit]

ah ok

[cold cosmos]

I’m pretty sure it’s 3%

[royal tapir]

So yeah not only is it not 3%, but it also scales, and Sparkling Empress is part of a pool of legendary drops that are randomly picked from

[fervent orbit]

heres your answer for sparkling empress' fishing rate

[cold cosmos]

Wait did they change it?

[fervent orbit]

legendaryCatches.AddWithCondition<int>(ModContent.ItemType<SparklingEmpress>(), DownedBossSystem.downedDesertScourge);
nah its legendary

[cold cosmos]

It definitely used to be 3%

[fervent orbit]

the wiki is just wrong

[cold cosmos]

Am I just insane

[sleek turret]

This is insanity

[royal tapir]

I love vanilla fishing

[potent veldt]

So it's a 1/45?

[fervent orbit]

theres also other stuff with fishing that isnt mentioned

[sand marlin]

Also that got one zephyr fish which is probably the rarest catch in the entire game (The chance to catch it is 2/3125 (0.06%) with 50% Fishing Power and 4/3125 (0.13%) with 100% Fishing Power) so sparkling empress not dropping is just an rng issue

[royal tapir]

For example, pretty sure crates can override it

[dense ravine]

isnt gold carp rarer

[fervent orbit]

like spadefish being more uncommon in hm, and dragoon being more common in pre hm

[sand marlin]

Gold carp is just extremely rare

[fervent orbit]

gold carp is listed as extremely rare

[sleek turret]

With 100 FP I think it is

[potent veldt]

Tbh at that point I'm confused why such a weapon would be so insanely rare then?

[fervent orbit]

honestly fuck fishing

just use sonar

[potent veldt]

Like, what's the point

[cold cosmos]

Idk

[dense ravine]

just use cheat sheet

[cold cosmos]

Sparkling Empress is kind of OP to be fair

Doesn’t justify it but worth mentioning

[sleek turret]

This should help

[fervent orbit]

its

[royal tapir]

Why is Greenwave Loach a legendary catch

[fervent orbit]

no

[sand marlin]

You wanna ask why 10% drops go extremely overodds for like 90% of the people too?

[cold cosmos]

Wait is it not anymore?

[fervent orbit]

its good for piercing

[sleek turret]

You could make it easier to get by making Sparkling Princess Catch chance affected by Crate boosting stuff

[potent veldt]

This, actually makes a lot more sense, if this is the case

[fervent orbit]

so like 1 boss before u start using something else

[cold cosmos]

Did it used to be better or am I delusional

I swear it used to be amazing

[fervent orbit]

and even if ur going thru the effort for a leg fishing catch, why not just use demon scythe

[potent veldt]

I dont understand what this is asking me

[fervent orbit]

ur unlucky

[potent veldt]

Shit

[sleek turret]

Since it doesn't tell you but

[sand marlin]

Just like

[sleek turret]

XDDDDDDDD

[sand marlin]

Go use QoL or cheat it in

It's not that big of a deal

[potent veldt]

I think this is a poor stance

I'm not upset

[sleek turret]

mmm yes i love using bandaids to solve game issues mmm yes

[potent veldt]

The suggestion channel exists for suggestions

I have one, no matter how silly it might be

That's, it

[dense ravine]

probability is dumb

[sand marlin]

I'm not telling you are, I'm just saying the suggestion is taking an overtly specific scenario and trying to base adding the very same qol for extremely unlucky people on that

[dense ravine]

unless its gambling

[potent veldt]

Yes, it is

[sleek turret]

The infinite monkey could probably write the Calamity Manifesto at any point in infinite time

[potent veldt]

Because, why not?

[sleek turret]

It feels like that image actually

[potent veldt]

I suggest it because it happened, and I don't see the downside for suggesting it

[fervent orbit]

80% of gamblers quit before they make it big

[dense ravine]

also dont crafting recipes need to be somewhat explained by lore

[sleek turret]

90% of fishers quit before they get a golden crate

[sand marlin]

You should have a better reasoning than that basically

[fervent orbit]

what

no

[dense ravine]

dont they?

[sleek turret]

no wtf????

That's fucked design tbh

[potent veldt]

The better reasoning is that it's extremely unfun to be apart of

I'd prefer something that is very obviously not fun doesn't happen to others

So, I suggest it

[dense ravine]

not like explained by lore

like physically possible

[sleek turret]

If it were like that why doesn't Feller of Evergreens have jungle stuff in it's recipe

[dense ravine]

why would smashing 100 fish together make another fish

[sleek turret]

Please explain

Feller appears on Vernal Pass chests where it's clearly jungle themed and this one doesn't really have Jungle stuff on it

[potent veldt]

Idk, why does the fish shoot lasers

[drowsy plank]

how does frog leg work

[royal tapir]

You uhhh umm errr

Put it on your leg

[potent veldt]

Why does the horseshoe make my kneecaps invincible

[royal tapir]

(singular)

[sleek turret]

See

[drowsy plank]

how do u make it from 5 frogs

[sand marlin]

You can't stop someone from getting shit chest loot 10 times in a row or the very example mentioned above with 10% boss drops

[fervent orbit]

also you should probably change the title of the suggestion

its focusing on the solution of the problem, not the problem itself

[sleek turret]

It's inconsistent to believe that you need to have lore to have a recipe for something lol

[dense ravine]

i didnt even know this was real tbh

[drowsy plank]

lo

[sleek turret]

It is

[potent veldt]

Incorrect

[fervent orbit]

the devs can implement the solution in any way they want, they shouldnt be bound by your suggestions title

[potent veldt]

See; Anklet Of The Wind

[fervent orbit]

and crafting recipes is literally the most bandaid fix ever

[sleek turret]

TRUE

[potent veldt]

Also that's fine, I'll change it then

[sand marlin]

^ took the answer out of my hands not really but it's convenient clue

[potent veldt]

I'll leave it at the end as an example fix, not as the actual sugg

[sleek turret]

I alredy said this before but wouldn't it better to make Sparkling Princess be affected by Crate stuff

[drowsy plank]

the title isn't even accurate considering this is just about empress

[sand marlin]

This sounds good

[royal tapir]

That's super easy to do

[sleek turret]

Both Enchanted Pearl and Crate Potion are avaiable and boost the chance of getting these rare items

But for some ??????? reason Sparkling Princess isn't affected

Same with other catches like Dragon Dizzlefish

[fervent orbit]

seems like an oversight to me tbh

o

dragoon also isnt affected?

wait let me check smthn

[sleek turret]

According to the list on the wiki

Unless it's coded in the mod source

[fervent orbit]

where list

nvm

its at the bottom of the page

[sleek turret]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Fishing#Rare_Items

[potent veldt]

Maybe it's because they're pre-hm ?

Seems like a stupid reason but it's the only thing they have in common compared to the other items

[sleek turret]

Not exactly

Gacruxian Mollusk is a hardmode item that is also fished

And it does appear on the list

[potent veldt]

Idk then, probably is just an oversight then if it's that way in the code

[sleek turret]

It feels like it

[fervent orbit]

of the very rare and legendary (extremely rare on vanilla wiki), dragoon, floodtide, and sparkling are the exceptions

to increased drops from enchanted pearl and crate pot

[sleek turret]

@potent veldt Personally I think it would be better for your sugg if you incorporated the fact that Sparkling and Dragoon aren't affected by the increased Rare Item Catch chance provided by items such as Crate potions, Enchanted Pearl and the Supreme Tackle Bag

So it's still chance based. However, the odds of getting it increase exponentially

[fervent orbit]

habble just made a bug report on that, since it seems more like an oversight since theres no difference i can see between the rare item list and sparking, dragoon, and floodtide

[sleek turret]

Sure

[novel belfry]

Maybe instead of crafting fish into rarer fish, you could trade x amount of common fish with like the angler

To get some neat catch he got

[crude geode]

This idea doesn’t make me wanna self defenestrate

Bc crafting fish into other fish makes me

[novel belfry]

I even thought about how this might make for a nice obtainment rework for the calamity health fruits

i dont like how you just... craft fruits

they're supposed to be grown yknow

[sleek turret]

What if when giving Quest Fishes of a certain biome/theme gives you some rare fish loot of that biome

[drowsy plank]

actually i think i thought about something like this before but i think the workload on the programming side was a bit heavy

certainly a consideration tho

[misty lichen]

this is just way rarer than fishing the item itself lol

oh man i’m too unlucky for sparkling empress let me wait 50 in game days for the angler to maybe want the sunken sea quest fish

[median scaffold]

Maybe it could be expanded to the list of quests, where you could find rarer fish for the price of not-so-rare fish, for example

[random talon]

@molten cedar Remember to format your suggestion so that the bot can see it. Also, mentioning your DPS build might muddy your point. Stick to how the weapon is a detrement to visibility!

[ripe owl]

@molten cedar your suggestion is not properly formatted. It also needs some more reasoning behind it. Read the document pinned in the suggestion channels

[golden sonnet]

Also, apotheosis has the slowest boss rush killtime out of literally any shadowspec option iirc, so bringing up damage is especially not relevant in the regard of being incentivized to use it. Only way it would be stronger than other options would be if you are testing it on dummies or something

[molten cedar]

although i am using dummies yes, it deals 1.5 million dps while eternity deal 400k thats 3x

[golden sonnet]

dummy testing means nothing

Dummies have zero defense or damage reduction, and are completely stationary, apotheosis projectile sits in one spot so it will be ridiculous against a stationary target

actual killtime tests have apotheosis as incredibly bad against late game bosses and boss rush

[golden sonnet]

there is even a whole copypasta about all the cons of testing on dummies

but regardless that doesn't fix the actual issue you are addressing and wouldn't affect the validity of your suggestion, I just wanted to point out you shouldn't feel pressured to use it as it isn't very good, and is in fact worse than like every other endgame option

[molten cedar]

can i post a photo in my argument or no

for the format

or something

[ripe owl]

What photo?

[molten cedar]

evidence

of the weapon

[ripe owl]

Send it here first

[molten cedar]

im not on my pc rn

but ill do it later

it would just be a photo of it in the calamitas fight

this good enough

Make the weapon Apotheosis more easier to see while using the weapon

Reason: Whenever i do a boss fight i cannot see anything while using the weapon, as the weapon covers the whole screen I cannot see incoming projectiles (especially Calamitas). This completely sully’s the weapon.

[ripe owl]

You're not really meant to fight Calamitas

You're meant to fight BR with Shadowspec tier weapons

[molten cedar]

whats that

[wide river]

"BR" is Boss Rush

[molten cedar]

ok

is it not usual you fight the final boss with the final gear, like vanilla terraria do you not fight moon lord after getting post moon lord gear as a test

or is boss rush considered the final boss

I really had no idea the calamity mods discord was so organised and has a high bar you have to create real good reasoning and evidence in your text. Like in vanilla terraria, red just goes on forums and some dude will say chipmunks are pretty cool you should add them and he does it or some stupid shit like that

[wide river]

It's mainly like this to make sure people don't post stuff like "add sex" (they still do, but this way it's undeniably invalid)

[molten cedar]

this is correct but i feel like you shouldnt have to make paragraphs and evidence

[wide river]

Fortunately, in your case, a paragraph is unnecessary

[molten cedar]

the last dude was doing math dude thats insane and testing and whatnot

teel paragraphs and whatnot

[wide river]

I'd say a suggestion closer to this might be valid (feel free to use if you'd like):

As an endgame weapon, Apotheosis has a very large area-of-effect to attack enemies with. Unfortunately, this leads to it filling up the screen, making it difficult to dodge projectiles, especially those used by the two endgame bosses, being the Exo Mechs and Supreme Witch, Calamitas. As this has the player at a massive disadvantage while Apotheosis is in use, it would be best if it could clutter the screen less, to make refighting bosses more fair to the player.```

The only problem I could foresee with it is the fact that it's a dev item (though, dunno how long it's been since the dedicatee has been in the community)

[molten cedar]

so this is why you were writing so long yeah im stealing that

thanks

[wide river]

@ripe owl Is the suggestion passable now?

[ripe owl]

Seems to be

[wide river]

Aight cool

[drowsy plank]

154 - Zombies can now break down doors like Goblins can in Death Mode. - Done

no this is not real but it would be funny

[median scaffold]

Jesus Christ, what a jumpscare

[ripe owl]

True

[median scaffold]

Actually, how popular does suggestion needs to be so Devs could see it and say: "Ah, what a fine suggestion, I'll think about it"?

[sand marlin]

You mean to pass into voting? Need to be top 20% of current suggs

[median scaffold]

Uhh, where can I see the top?

[sand marlin]

You just compare the stars

Unless someone's compiled them like ench

[median scaffold]

Okay, what does "current suggestion" means here then?

[sand marlin]

The ones that have been sent after the last batch of suggs

[median scaffold]

[sand marlin]

I think bot sends them(top 20%) to voting every two weeks?

[median scaffold]

Clearly, I'm too stupid to understand

[median scaffold]

oh, makes sense

I'll wait

[worn coyote]

gates would quickly become meta

[sand marlin]

Sorry I meant pass the voting @median scaffold lmao

[median scaffold]

I still don't 100% get what are you talking about

Sorry for that, uh...

[sand marlin]

Sugg is made in #suggestions-posting
24 hours pass without any issues
Sent into #suggestions-voting
Has top 20% star ranking out of all the current suggs(suggs since the last batch was evaluated) at the end of the two-week(?) period
Sent into dev

[median scaffold]

Thanks a lot

[molten cedar]

Elevating the Apotheosis: Advocating for a Buff in Terraria's Calamity Mod

Within the expansive universe of Terraria, the Calamity Mod stands as a testament to the dedication and creativity of its developers, offering players a wealth of new content, challenges, and weapons to discover. Among these formidable tools of destruction, the Apotheosis weapon stands out as a pinnacle of power, yet its potential remains untapped, waiting for a much-needed buff to truly shine.

Introduced as an ultimate weapon in the Calamity Mod, the Apotheosis embodies the pinnacle of achievement for players who have conquered the most daunting challenges and braved the deadliest foes. However, despite its prestigious status, the Apotheosis falls short of expectations in terms of both performance and versatility, leaving many players underwhelmed by its capabilities.

One of the primary issues plaguing the Apotheosis is its lackluster damage output compared to other endgame weapons within the Calamity Mod. For a weapon of such legendary status, its damage potential fails to justify the effort required to obtain it, often leaving players feeling disappointed and dissatisfied with their hard-earned prize. A buff to the Apotheosis could address this discrepancy by significantly increasing its damage output, ensuring that it lives up to its reputation as a weapon of unparalleled power.

Furthermore, the Apotheosis could benefit from additional features or enhancements to make it a more versatile and dynamic weapon in combat. Introducing unique abilities or modifiers, such as increased critical strike chance, piercing capabilities, or special effects, would not only enhance the weapon's effectiveness but also add depth to gameplay and encourage players to experiment with different strategies and playstyles.

Moreover, improving the Apotheosis would serve to elevate the overall experience of players engaging with the Calamity Mod, providing them with a truly rewarding endgame weapon that stands as a testament to their skill and dedication. Rather than being relegated to the status of a mere trophy, the Apotheosis would become a formidable tool in the hands of capable adventurers, capable of turning the tide of battle against even the most formidable adversaries.

Additionally, a buff to the Apotheosis would invigorate the endgame content of the Calamity Mod, revitalizing interest and engagement among players seeking new challenges and rewards. By providing a tangible incentive for players to pursue the Apotheosis, developers can ensure that the endgame remains a compelling and rewarding experience, encouraging continued exploration and progression within the mod.

In conclusion, the Apotheosis weapon in Terraria's Calamity Mod is in need of a buff to unlock its full potential and cement its status as a true powerhouse among endgame weapons. By addressing its shortcomings and enhancing its capabilities, developers can ensure that the Apotheosis lives up to its reputation as the ultimate weapon of the Calamity Mod, providing players with a truly legendary tool worthy of their hard-earned achievements. Let us not squander the opportunity to elevate the Apotheosis to its rightful place among the stars of Terraria's arsenal.

[median scaffold]

[molten cedar]

this good enough?

[median scaffold]

What

I think you should make it into one message...

[molten cedar]

i cant

too llong

need nitro

[median scaffold]

Well...

You need to short it, then

[molten cedar]

Cant

its too god

[median scaffold]

[molten cedar]

🤑

[median scaffold]

@wide river
Sorry for ping, but I think he needs your help

[molten cedar]

i do

[median scaffold]

Wait then
I can't do anything when he's not online

[molten cedar]

🤑

[median scaffold]

Okay, I'm out

[molten cedar]

🤑

[golden sonnet]

this is just an ai generated nothing burger

it literally doesn't say anything of note

[buoyant idol]

Yeah, it’s definitely AI generated. Suggestions must be one message.

[median scaffold]

[umbral gazelle]

why piercing capabilities

[frail mantle]

Strange incident

[median scaffold]

Tl:dr; I'm not going to read this (and pretty much average person too)

[umbral gazelle]

isnt apotheosis has like inf pierce already?

[median scaffold]

It is, iirc

It's a gigantic worm, why it won't had inf piercing?

[umbral gazelle]

imagine apotheosis without piercing

[median scaffold]

Utterly useless

[umbral gazelle]

DoG dissipate as it hit enemy until the last segment gone

[median scaffold]

As I think about... yeah
Maybe this message is AI generates. Or it is written in the similar fashion, which is a bad thing

[golden sonnet]

it is 100% ai

[median scaffold]

Either way, it's not good

And it's 2 standalone messages (for one suggestion)

[golden sonnet]

it's also entirely about balance, so is in the entirely wrong channel and format

[median scaffold]

Also, Apotheosis is a dev weapon
We can't do anything about it without permission, iirc

[golden sonnet]

you can for balancing

[median scaffold]

Okay

Buff red sun

[golden sonnet]

alright, make a post in #1178515062030348308

[median scaffold]

Sure, I'll do it, maybe even today

[median scaffold]

[median scaffold]

Uh, so, how is the disscussion about this suggestion?

[sand marlin]

Read down

It's literally ai generated

[median scaffold]

It's funny for a second

And... then, it's not

[molten cedar]

no its not its my work

tottally not ai generated ots my feelings took bout 15 days

allthough its not ai generated i believe it does need a buff

[buoyant idol]

I have my doubts, considering you're having trouble spelling normal words and using words like invigorate in your suggestion.

[fervent orbit]

idk i just chucked into an ai checker and said it was 98% ai made

also, gpt not knowing shit about what it talks about and often going off topic is a common thing gpt does when it doesnt know the specifics

[buoyant idol]

Not to mention the title looks like the title to a research paper that I'd write instead of a real suggestion title.

[worldly sparrow]

i used my brain and uhh yeah

its 100% ai made

[median scaffold]

I used my brain and Red Sun is... fine

[fervent orbit]

that also works

[ashen warren]

Apotheosis has been bugged for a long while. It's on my to-do list, but due to being a Shadowspec weapon, it's low priority.

There's already been a report on it in #1178515062030348308.

[glass arch]

i asked gpt itself and it said it was likely

[fervent orbit]

[novel belfry]

yknow its bad enough when you are able to ask GPT if this text was written using it

[buoyant idol]

Should AI generated suggestions be against the rules?

[drowsy plank]

they usually against the rules bc they're bad

lo

[errant cradle]

@carmine timber Is that your entire suggestion or did you forget to post the rest of it?

[carmine timber]

I'm working on it. I accidentally posted it too soon

[errant cradle]

Alr 👍

[carmine timber]

Ok, I'm done editing the post

[errant cradle]

Reasoning and everything else seems fine there, will un react now

[carmine timber]

Thanks

[golden sonnet]

Wouldn't this be a bug/oversight? and should go in #1052323733961977947 ?

[carmine timber]

Actually yeah, that's a good point.

[fervent orbit]

yall dont need to put Reason:

your body should be the reasoning

[odd cradle]

Too bad did it anyway

I might suggest some other tweaks to how Calamity's worldgen works with the easter egg seeds, but I'll have to see how well this more "simpler" one goes over with the community and devs.

[novel belfry]

i have a feeling that thing I did in some other server is spreading

but anyways i would love to see a surface version of the sunken sea tbh

it would be a very nice change of pace, i personally loved the reverse abyss in gfb

[odd cradle]

We'll have to see if it's too broad in scope of a change, though I can't really imagine it is

[worldly sparrow]

great sugg

[buoyant idol]

@polar jackal Please do not joke in there.

Well that's self centered. Without him there wouldn't be a calamity to even play.

@drowsy plank

[drowsy plank]

@polar jackal This isn't a meme channel and also do not spam gifs.

[ripe owl]

[drowsy plank]

Tempted to timeout on assumption of being a troll; regardless if you have issues with your Warn or moderation in general please direct them to @sonic torrent so we may address them properly.

[molten cedar]

its like texting to your friend or a essay of course youd write more better in an essay

also im not struggling to write a word, i butter finger a letter

[coral carbon]

Generate the Evil Island under the Space layer
Currently, the Evil Island likes to generate near the top of the world, where most (if not all) of the spawns are replaced by Harpies/Wyverns, making that island have very limited usefulness without taking the evil sandstone blocks to the Surface layer. Making the island generate just low enough to make the evil enemies able to spawn would be a nice thing, especially if you want to defeat The Hive Mind in a Crimson world or vice-versa - as you could just kill a Tumor/Cyst on that island and spawn the boss.

Is this good?

[small timber]

iirc there are some plans to change how evil island are spawned

and I thought it being abit out of the way is kind of intentional, but I am not 100% certain

[coral carbon]

Oh, so it will likely get a 🔒, right?

[ripe owl]

Probably

[coral carbon]

So, I'll probably not put it on #suggestions-posting , because it would be just cluttering the #suggestions-voting with a suggestion that's very likely to get a 🔒

[lilac violet]

Hello bro

[dense ferry]

@lilac violet don't spam the same message everywhere, please

[serene bramble]

One of the changes to the Zenith Seeds really sucks a lot imo. I typically use a hook from Calamity Vanities, which is very fast and pretty much the only hook I know of that's fast enough to be used against many endgame bosses. However, since it's so fast, upon usage, the player gains the chaos debuff for 3 seconds. But now, I've just learned that everywhere in the Zenith Seed, this debuff spawns Jared, which basically makes the item unusable. This is frustrating because I don't know of any viable alternative hooks

[drowsy plank]

use bobbit hook

[fervent orbit]

thats more of an issue with calval anyway

[serene bramble]

just tried it - its better than vanilla hooks but still way worse than XM-Lightning Hook (The one from CalValEx)

[serene bramble]

well the cause of the issue is one of the many random/troll changes to the zenith seed from camality since its no issue atall on a normal seed and a change which basiclly just disables/makes a handful of items totally unusable is annoying imo

[fervent orbit]

if youve got a problem with it, take it up with calval

[cloud obsidian]

gfb is meant to be unfair and dumb

[wide river]

(Get Fixed Boi isn't supposed to be "fair", so your pleas might fall on deaf ears)

[drowsy plank]

yeah this is entirely intentional

the same way you can use rod of discord lol

[serene bramble]

this is not an issue caused by calval it would be insane to annoy their devs about something which is not their fault - i can understand if its intentional and people like the way it is but that doesnt mean that this is something i should annoy unrelated people about

[serene bramble]

rod of harmony should still work tho ? (didnt get it yet so i dont know )

[fervent orbit]

your issue is that u dont get to use ur op hook

[drowsy plank]

you have to beat THE LORDE first

it is entirely intentional

[fervent orbit]

if u want it fixed, bring it up with the calval devs

theyre a calamity addon, so they should expect these kind of changes to impact their mod

this isnt cals problem to fix

[golden sonnet]

also their problem for having an unbalanced hook

[fervent orbit]

true

if somehow bobbit isnt enough for you, then i have no idea what you want

[buoyant idol]

Hook of dissonance too

[serene bramble]

thats the arena i used in my last playthrough (the one in the sky)- bobbit coundt event reach a single other layer lol

[drowsy plank]

this really just seems like a you issue

[median scaffold]

That's... yeah, that's your issue

[golden sonnet]

@proper granite Celestial sigil is hardcoded, and this suggestion has already passed before

[proper granite]

dang

[golden sonnet]

.

[proper granite]

damn that was over a year ago

[tardy geyser]

Make a second celestial sigil thats usable before golem

[golden sonnet]

I mean, that's what was done with golem

[random talon]

I wish Yharon's GFB telefraging fireball would sleep on a cactus

[coral carbon]

GFB is meant to be unfair

[random talon]

no shit

[misty lichen]

more reason for astral key 🙏

[drowsy plank]

the astral key will be real in 5

tbh im p sure the whole aureus thing was only bc it was next to impossible in old tmod which is

very much not the case anymore

[quiet kettle]

Aureus mount is becoming a thing?

[crude geode]

What

[quiet kettle]

I made an Aureus mount suggestion I think lemme look for it

Oh wait no it was in the vanities channel (which I shall not talk about.)

[olive saddle]

#suggestions-posting message this feels so oddly niche but so broad at the same time

[misty lichen]

user have you ever used ink bombs on tier

[serene vapor]

Not as much as I like, I don’t tend to traverse the abyss before skeletron

Actually

I feel like this suggestion is more of a balance thing

[misty lichen]

i want to give ink bombs full testing bc im like kind of sure it’s really stupid with the bombs scaling with stealth damage

probably something that should just get reworked or removed though, it’s an on hit damage dealing effect and nothing else

on hit things like that are kinda dumb if they don’t give any defensive benefits, confusion does not count

also the fact only a single effect of it carries over to abyssal mirror

[serene vapor]

I thought they dealt no damage

[misty lichen]

this is definitely a rogue accessory tooltip moment

[serene vapor]

oh well

[misty lichen]

leaving out kind of important details of what it does

[ripe owl]

[small timber]

I like how it got 2 exclamation in the first 5 seconds it is posted

[ripe owl]

That's something new

[umbral gazelle]

that was just.... straight up against suggestion rule

[ripe owl]

@thorn dock Specific Item Suggestions is something that you cannot suggest. Please read the rules document pinned in the suggestion channels properly

Since there is really no reason to keep it, I'll delete it, hope no one will mind

[median scaffold]

Sorry for the ping, but what did he posted?

[ripe owl]

Let's just say that I gave you a verbal warning and move on

[median scaffold]

Oh, sorry about that

[thorn dock]

Hmm it quite sad that player gear ideas cant be collected/ archieved 🤔

I might have an idea for a suggestion

[median scaffold]

Go

[drowsy plank]

i really do not think it is

most player gear ideas Suck

[olive saddle]

unless its broad then i agree

[fervent orbit]

guys the correct way to play calamity is to go full glass cannon!!!‼️ i know this because i played it once 5 years ago! and then never again!!!1!

[olive saddle]

glass cannon isnt very fun imo

you kill the bosses way too fast

[sleek turret]

The correct way to playing Calamity is being yourself

[frail mantle]

and then uninstalling terraria

[novel belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/my-epic-guitar-my-epic-musket-blood-and-iron-gif-22176465

musket that fucking worm

[sleek turret]

There are better games to play so this is True

[grim tusk]

And die over and over

[grave zinc]

@errant wind - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make a crafting recipe for magic conch]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@atomic shell - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Clarify what Crimson Armor’s set bonus does for life regeneration.]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@proper granite - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[The player should be guided towards some of the more obscure content.]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[errant wind]

No way

:0

[median scaffold]

Woah

Congratulations!

[errant wind]

Yes

Ye

Might get a lil bit of me into calamity mod

[median scaffold]

||Would be nice to have any (the second one totally) to be sent too||

[errant wind]

Agree

[median scaffold]

This is just a silly dream, but I guess we all can dream from time to time

Otherwise, how are you doing?

[errant wind]

Good

In my solo im to exo

And scal

[median scaffold]

Sounds really nice

I found a meme to the ost situation we were talking about today, but I can't really sent it, so nvm

[novel belfry]

the ost situation?

[median scaffold]

Also, that's suggestion discussion

[errant wind]

Yes

[errant wind]

Let’s get somewhere else

[median scaffold]

"New vanilla ost is worse then Calamity one" or smth like that

[median scaffold]

I can send it to DMs, tho

[median scaffold]

Otherwise, how does this work?

[novel belfry]

eh i like that new EoW theme

[errant wind]

Ok

[median scaffold]

I didn't say I don't like

It's... uh, I forgot to listen to it

But I would agree that the new twins theme is a little bit too slow for them

[errant wind]

Oh about eow new theme

[novel belfry]

anyways i'd rather not start up another argument so i'll just head out

[errant wind]

Not bad

But it’s not dokuro

[errant wind]

Yes

[errant wind]

Wdym

Prolly like

[median scaffold]

Where is it sent?

[errant wind]

Devs will see that

And think of if it will get added ig

[median scaffold]

Yeah, head to #calamity-mod-talk

[ashen warren]

It's sent to the dev server, where the developers will vote and discuss before making a verdict.

[errant wind]

Ok

[median scaffold]

Why not the demon conch and the desert rod, tho?

[median scaffold]

Thanks for the answer

[median scaffold]

People didn't like it enough, I guess

[errant wind]

Demon conch already got a recipe

[median scaffold]

[errant wind]

And idk about desert rod

[median scaffold]

I mean, finding it in the hell chests

That is a suggestion

[median scaffold]

I have some serious competition, ngl
90 stars? 99? God

[errant wind]

Yes

But

Why

When you can craft

[median scaffold]

"More consistency"

I like consistent things sometimes

[errant wind]

Wdym

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-voting message

A little bit down, my bad

[errant wind]

Wdym more consistency

[median scaffold]

Read the suggestion right below your one

[errant wind]

Yes that one is saying my suggestion sucks

[median scaffold]

Yeah, it is kinda pointless adding both, but I guess it's still fair that there could be a recipe for magic conch from now on

[errant wind]

I can’t live without magic conch and finding it in underground desert is annoying

[median scaffold]

Yeah, me too

Crafting is kinda basic, tho...

[errant wind]

Then how

Would you find it

[novel belfry]

i mean, its a god-tier item, literally allows you to skip using Ocean Pylons if you don't want to

[errant wind]

That’s why I specified needs ocean materials

[novel belfry]

oh interesting

[median scaffold]

Idk, I can't really say anything atm

I would say fishing, but people hate it

[random talon]

FISHING IS USEFUL
FISHING IS UNDERRATED
FISHING IS POWERFUL

fishing is how you get Titanium pre-mech 1

[worn coyote]

tbh I'd rather play the game than fish 10 hours for a titanium armor

[grave zinc]

@low hare - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more non-item (and lore related) boss summoning methods]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add an in-game way to determine enemy debuff resistances/vulnerabilities]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[odd cradle]

(this is a REALLY GOOD suggestion btw, fully support this)

[small timber]

classic 🏁 suggestion that will be implemented soon™

[median scaffold]

Yes, you're right

[sand marlin]

10 hours minutes at best

Sorry did I say best
I meant worst

[sand marlin]

I'm gonna give it a guess and say it's probably gonna be in the bestiary

[sleek turret]

The fabric of time becomes heavily distorted the moment you fish

[grave zinc]

@atomic shell - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Clarify what Crimson Armor’s set bonus does for life regeneration.]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[atomic shell]

thank god

[median scaffold]

I'm more and more scared...

#suggestions-voting message
Wha-, seriously...?

[royal tapir]

Well, the suggestion was not passed to the dev server, so it is a non-issue

Anyway here's the Crimson armor set bonus tooltip

[novel belfry]

Okay very nice

[drowsy plank]

idk how crim armor works but why is this using the old "increased life regen" way of saying it instead of specific values like band of regen or ambrosial ampoule or something?

[royal tapir]

Because it's not a flat life regen boost

[drowsy plank]

ah yeah that's what i assumed, just wanted to check

[royal tapir]

afaik what it does is it increases how fast natural life regen rises, even more so when standing still

I suppose we could make the first line say "natural life regen"

[drowsy plank]

honestly yeah

that i think would make what it does a lot clearer, because the original text always made me think it just had flat values depending on conditions instead of directly changing the rate of the formula

[median scaffold]

I guess it's not, but also, how I know by far, this could be sent to the dev server. Am I wrong?
(Sorry for the ping)

[royal tapir]

Your question is worded strangely

Are you asking how I know it’s not going to the dev server

[wide river]

It's not getting sent to the dev server because:

• Its "batch" of suggestions has already been gone through by the Suggestion Bot, and other suggestions were selected to be delivered
• It is unlikely that a developer would manually deliver it, as from what I remember sentries are a balance headache, being part of the Summoner class and all, so even if it was delivered, passing would be a lil hard on its part

[glass arch]

yeah

its an extremely fucky to explain effect

[misty lichen]

no i think it’s completely separate from regular life regen

it’s just it’s completely own thing iirc

[glass arch]

no

it affects the formula for how life regen works

it makes natural regen rise faster

[sleek turret]

Summoner as a whole rn is a headache and needs a major rebalancing (as well as other things that complement summoner...) and I don't think it's the right time to add more stuff that becomes a headache

[sleek turret]

Really good sugg

[wide river]

Exactly, ye
If it got delivered it'd likely be given the 🔒 or 🚫 reactions

[sleek turret]

Yea

[median scaffold]

Let me rewrite it in a second

[median scaffold]

As far as I know, top 20% of the most popular suggestions in the previous 1-2 weeks will be sent to the devs
And, as far as I can say, 90+ stars is a pretty big amount and, by that logic, is pretty popular, so it will be sent to the devs
Do I get the whole "rating / senting by stars" system right or I don't know about something?

[median scaffold]

I agree with that. And, at the same time, that's the only reason I won't be suggesting adding more sentry-based gameplay to the summoner (tho I really want it)

Just let devs do their job and make a balanced gameplay. Suggesting more things to add would make the work much harder

Uhh, sorry for that...

[glass arch]

the suggs with the most stars

its not a flat amount

the most popular suggs goes by the ones with the most votes, not ones above a certain threshold

[median scaffold]

Yeah, I get it
Just the maximum I saw was 140 stars and the suggestion with less than 100 (99, for example), so I thought it was something like top 20%

...meh, I'm just scared, ngl

[buoyant idol]

Suggesting more will inflate the top bracket

[median scaffold]

I did 2 suggestions and the first one was... pretty weird and most likely bad

[wide river]

Quick, post 100s of low quality suggestions that barely pass suggestion guidelines so all the good ones get sent
(Full disclaimer, do not do this)

[sleek turret]

Verb or Verb Item or Subject
Reasoning
Solution 1
Solution 2

[novel belfry]

it would be hilarious tho, byeah thats probably going to cause a ton of confusing new rules

[orchid briar]

I feel like this sugg, should be based more around making the overloaded soldiers consistent rather than the need for them in low% runs

[grim tusk]

^

[median scaffold]

I love me some low% run

[drowsy plank]

@proper granite Do you think you could rewrite this with less focus on a challenge run? Arguably that should be enough to flag the suggestion because challenge runs are secondary to normal gameplay, but I'll leave it be for now unless more people challenge it. Just mention how pointless it is for them to exist if they're this inconsistent, since most people will just use the Dungeon instead.

[drowsy plank]

hm

god can we please just bring fucking plague hive back it's so fucking bad and even with the hive pack slapped on it still isn't even better than an emblem 💀

[buoyant idol]

Plague hive doesn't use the hive pack anymore, interesting.

[drowsy plank]

IT'S SO BAD

[wide river]

Remember how it didn't use Hive Pack since 1.5 but still gave the bee buffing effect

Amazing accessory

[grim tusk]

@solemn sleet
Plague Hive

!wiki plague hive

Did wiki bot die

Wait we removed hive pack from it

So maybe you could suggest to add it back to Plague Hive idk

[buoyant idol]

Reversion suggestion, not entirely sure what to do then.

[drowsy plank]

ive done this so many times 😭

[solemn sleet]

I will

[solemn sleet]

you too? lmaooo

I feel you brother

[grim tusk]

Pretty sure the reason it still gets rejected by part of the dev team is how busted Swarmer used to be

Tbh we could just add a conditional nerf so that swarmer’s bees do still get a boost but not a ridiculous one

[solemn sleet]

Oooo

Yeah

yeah sure

that works

so should I write another suggestion?

#suggestions-posting message
@errant wind it already has a few indirect upgrades

[errant wind]

Really?

Damn

Should I remove it then

[solemn sleet]

yeah here are some examples

[errant wind]

Ain’t for all classes tho

[solemn sleet]

alchemical flask is for all classes

makes all attacks spawn extra projectiles just like luxor, albeit with a small internal cooldown for game balance reasons

there's also terra bullets @errant wind

terra bullets do that for ranger

and specter armor/hydrothermic armor that for mages

they make all your attacks spawn extra projectiles exactly like what luxor's gift do

[errant wind]

Huh

Ok?

Ima see later if it ain’t good

[solemn sleet]

its good
really good
broken infact
so broken they had to nerf it but still good

[errant wind]

I mean my suggestion

If my suggestion ain’t good

[grim tusk]

Needs better reasoning

Atm its pretty much “it should be cool”

[errant wind]

Eh

Ok then

[grim tusk]

You know you could have just edited the message

[errant wind]

I suck at making suggestions

[grim tusk]

It happens

[errant wind]

[grim tusk]

No one makes something well the first time they do it

[errant wind]

It’s not my first time

Fourth time

[grim tusk]

Still, you are not experienced enough and thats ok. You’ll get better the more you try

[errant wind]

I got a suggestions that is to devs right now

[proper granite]

bet
remove or rework overloaded soldiers
these obscure enemies spawn in the underground layer in hardmode, and don't really have any unique mechanic or purpose other than speeding up a bit when they're right next to the player. Even weirder, they drop a single piece of polterplasm each after killing moon lord, which is incredibly paltry if they're supposed to be an alternative method for getting polterplasm.
They could be moved to the post-moon lord dungeon to function as a more aggressive fighter AI mob that would make the P-ML dungeon more of a threat,
or alternatively you could go all in on the "alternative to farming dungeon mobs" angle and buff their drops up to the same level as other mobs that drop polterplasm.
but ultimately i think you should just have to fight dungeon mobs to get polterplasm.

heres the revised suggestion

[drowsy plank]

much better

[proper granite]

they really are weird when you think about it, they spawn in the underground layer but not the cavern layer, they drop polterplasm but dont have any connection to the dungeon, and their "function" would presumably be to act as a harder form of a skeleton but they show up as early at the start of hardmode which is when armored skeletons show up to serve the same purpose

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[graceful ingot]

Question: if a suggestion gets 100 stars, does it mean that eventually it will get worked on, or is it just to indicate that it has 100 stars?
I couldn't find the info myself on the document so idk

[drowsy plank]

the doc or pins should mention that it's the top 20% of suggestions every two weeks

number of stars means nothing

[graceful ingot]

Ah, got it. I'll check document again since I suppose I missed it, and the pins too actually so yeah.

[novel belfry]

did you know, alongside the overloaded soldiers, there used to be ANOTHER polterplasm-dropping enemy outside the dungeon called the Phantom Debris?

look at this goober that no longer exists

i dont recall ever meeting this guy ever

[royal tapir]

Died in 2.0

[novel belfry]

hell i dont even recall having met an overloaded soldier like, EVER

wth

and that one's STILL in the game

[hollow shell]

fun fact I'm the one who proposed Overloaded Soldiers originally
They were supposed to be a post-ML Dungeon enemy, and have some kind of phanto attacks, to make fighting there more interesting and make it so the Spirits weren't the only new enemies

I used the Armored Skeleton as the base for its sprite (cuz I figured it'd still fit and didn't need to abide by the Dungeon factions), but because of that, it was put in the Underground instead
and it got no phanto attacks.

[odd cradle]

Bless your heart,,,,

[proper granite]

thats interesting