suggestions-discussion

[worldly sparrow]

true, we'd be lucky to even get a real concept of the superboss fights

cuz so far we know nothing about noxus and only thing heard about xeroc is healthbar shenanigans (and that 90% wont get into the final version)

[cosmic karma]

how long was the time gap between draedon and the boss before draedon being released

[golden tulip]

its been 2 years since draedon release do you feel old now

[cosmic karma]

it has not

its been like 1 i think

[golden tulip]

damn it did for me

no

2

2021

[worldly sparrow]

594 days

[wide river]

2 as of November this year

[worldly sparrow]

between old duke and draedon

[cosmic karma]

oh thats not terrible

[wintry gale]

Whats healthbar shenanigans

[north oracle]

huh...
that means it's been almost 2 years since I started playing this mod

[worldly sparrow]

cei mentioned a singular time vaguely that xeroc would have like 2000% hp

[sleek turret]

it has been like

[worldly sparrow]

but that isnt gonna happen by any metric

[sleek turret]

since 2017 i've been playing this mod regularly

[worldly sparrow]

it was said as a mere idea

[sleek turret]

not always but like

every now and then

[drowsy plank]

the astral biome mimic suggestion feels wrong but at the same time i cant actually come up with anything wrong with it

[sleek turret]

there's nothing wrong with it so it's good

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[errant wren]

what would it even drop though

[sleek turret]

that's up to the devs

[errant wren]

fair

ok back to lurking again

[golden tulip]

what lmao

[sleek turret]

Awesome Baller suggestion (i dislike amidias bestiary)

[errant cradle]

ModAchievement thread activity:

[drowsy plank]

what is wrong with amidias bestiary

[sleek turret]

looks too serious to me tbh and i like how vanilla bestiary has some sillyness to it 😇

[worldly sparrow]

i don't think cei is willing to spend another few months rewriting the vanilla bestiary

[drowsy plank]

that is not what he is asking

he's asking for vanilla to be changed

what

[sleek turret]

oh wait then No.

[brazen minnow]

Make your title a 1-2 sentence summary of your suggestion

[sleek turret]

leave the unseriousness of the vanilla bestiary intact

[errant wren]

dang already back out of lurking

[golden tulip]

i agree that calamity lore has exactly 0 room for any humor of the sort

[errant wren]

what is this suggestion

[worldly sparrow]

yeah cal lore is deep

[deft yew]

deep does not entirely equate to serious

[sleek turret]

get this man a true

[worldly sparrow]

eh but like, the entries that directly contest with the lore should be changed in some way

[brazen minnow]

how
Is it worded badly?

[sleek turret]

you can have fun and silly text in your game btw

[royal tapir]

I swear I remember Cei stating she wanted to change some vanilla entries

[worldly sparrow]

i also remember hearing such a thing

[sleek turret]

especially terraria where a lot of items are just to have fun with (kites, water gun, slime gun, etc)

[drowsy plank]

also if astral got a "biome mimic" for some reason i would hope it isnt actually a chest mimic bc that would be lame and make no sense

[golden tulip]

there was an attempt

[golden sonnet]

aren't some vanilla entries already changed

[worldly sparrow]

there it is

[royal tapir]

No

[civic ruin]

mostly all the vanilla bestiary entries contradict calamity lore

[lucid marsh]

almost all the vanilla- yeah

[worldly sparrow]

wouldn't say almost all but it is definitely in the triple digits

[undone holly]

I like the astral mimic sugg, but how would the key or other thing that summons it manually be crafted? Stardust (I think it has a new name now but idk what it is)?

[sleek turret]

idk @ work bench 60 stardust

[worldly sparrow]

also yeah naming your sugg "bestiary" just doesnt sound good

for a sugg

[coral carbon]

Yeah you should add vergil

[worldly sparrow]

yeah name the sugg "vergil bestiary" sounds much better

[novel belfry]

Counterpoint: The Moray Eel bestiary entry

greatest thing ever written in human history

fight me

[golden tulip]

we did it guys

[north oracle]

TRUE

[golden tulip]

we found the one not serious calamity bestiary entry

[north oracle]

It’s an absolute masterpiece

[wide river]

Ok but how has the Bestiary suggestion not been exclaimed yet

[north oracle]

@jovial spire you or reb are probably best placed for this one

[sleek turret]

oh man finally

[glass arch]

ok im not either of them but i can tell you for a fact it is not happening

with the size of the vanilla bestiary

its just not worth it

[worldly sparrow]

it won't be the entire thing

[sleek turret]

another full 2-4 months for vanilla

[worldly sparrow]

a lot doesn't actually contradict lore

[sleek turret]

Yipp ie!!!!!!

[worldly sparrow]

and as a wise cei once said,

[buoyant idol]

@solemn locust No reference suggestions allowed

[hollow shell]

@solemn locust There is an explicit rule in the Don'ts Doc that disallows suggestions that are just references

[fervent orbit]

@solemn locust reference for the sake of having a reference is not allowed

[gilded scroll]

DMC reference detected: time to cring

[hollow shell]

(damn it, 3 pings)

[frail mantle]

i will eat the murasama

[odd geyser]

trinity of pings

[solemn locust]

alright bro

[novel belfry]

not if i eat the vergil yamato dmc3-5

[fervent orbit]

these are either words directly from the doc or one of rovers messages but i cant remember right now

[solemn locust]

dang

[frail mantle]

i think rover wrote the doc

so technically both

[hollow shell]

It is on the doc

[fervent orbit]

i hate that

[drowsy plank]

i am begging you guys please just read the rules for five minutes

[fervent orbit]

the fact that i remembered the exact words

[hollow shell]

(It wouldn't be good to enforce something that was just said in text one time cuz you couldn't expect people to know it was said)

[gilded scroll]

reading rules? cring ngl /j

[drowsy plank]

[buoyant idol]

I think it’s bad that I pretyped the ping message just off of the name alone.

[hollow shell]

Hey, feedback pin
Don't get on people's case for not reading the rules

[solemn locust]

borrrring

[novel belfry]

adlos amlgos

[hollow shell]

Now that you know though Connor yes there is a Don'ts Doc (pinned) and you have to make sure whatever suggestion you post abides by all the rules in there

[solemn locust]

aight

[drowsy plank]

im not getting on this guy specifically but we've had like 5 invalid suggs in one day and they weren't even like boardline ones they were just very clear rulebreakers its so sad 😭

[hollow shell]

Yes and that's fine because they all got exclam'd

They may as well have not gotten posted at all, because they're not ending up in #suggestions-voting anyway

[gilded scroll]

time to make a suggestion (give me ideas)

[fossil finch]

Only 5?

(Jokes aside, remember when exclamation bingos where all nearly 20 suggs long lmao)

[solemn locust]

make summoner fun

[fossil finch]

War never changes

[buoyant idol]

Give cryogen a large visual effect on phase chnage

[gilded scroll]

it already is, what do you mean?

[solemn locust]

not there yet

[gilded scroll]

i remember when someone and i did "Add/Remove Herobrine lol"

[fervent orbit]

retier forbidden to post mech 1

[novel belfry]

im trying a summoner playthrough where i DONT use whips

[hollow shell]

Not a bad idea if it is indeed unclear atm when his behavior changes

[novel belfry]

because i feel like somethings off about them

[solemn locust]

thats just boring

you just sit and watch

[novel belfry]

its probably because i remember playing calamity summoner before 1.4

and i thought that summoner was really fun

[gilded scroll]

tbh, im probably gonna suggest changes to enemies like Red Devil and turtles, because holy fuck they hurt

[novel belfry]

also currently calamity summoner+whip is stupid broken even tho the last whip you get is the kaleidoscope

[gilded scroll]

mmmmm yes, i do enjoy being two shot by a early hardmode enemy with armor leagues above early hardmode

[fervent orbit]

god i love shaving off a whole ass minute on yharon by using kalei

[glass arch]

god i love shaving 10 more seconds off yharon by using firecracker instead of kaleido

this pretty much only works with cve iirc byeah

[hollow shell]

I'm personally fine with Red Devils because it makes them scary
They are reasonably slow, their projs don't accelerate like regular Demons projs do
but it's super punishing if you fail to dodge

Giant Tortoises are a bit less reasonable because they tend to fly in from off screen at high speed, in my experience

[deft yew]

It is completely unclear

If you start p6 when it’s too close you get instantly dashed into

[gilded scroll]

yeah, in my experience, they comes in groups/when im busy with other hell enemies
(also Pyrogren)

[novel belfry]

speaking of cryogen WHY IS THAT SOUND GLITCH STILL OCCURING

[hollow shell]

Yeah, would be good to give him a some kind of indication then
Maybe a short animation like the Duke-like bosses

[glass arch]

turtles are bastards, mainly because of underground jungle

[glass arch]

its a tmod bug

[novel belfry]

it's been YEARS since I first encounter that glitch, why is that still not fixed

[royal tapir]

That’s only a problem with the specific phase

[gilded scroll]

ill probably suggest the Croygen one, though, my idea is just more opinions

[royal tapir]

He just should like

Spin in place for 2 seconds or something

[hollow shell]

yeah

[novel belfry]

and the weirdest thing is iirc the glitch doesn't occur with... infernum cryogen

[hollow shell]

again, Duke-like
Or I suppose EoC-like too

[novel belfry]

at least 1.4.3 infernum cryo

[hollow shell]

What's the sound glitch

[gilded scroll]

ill probably expand the Croygen thing to other bosses with unclear phase changes

[wide river]

Sometimes sound completely cuts out while fighting Cryogen
Sound effects, music, basically everything

[novel belfry]

In Cryogen's later phases, the entire sound cuts off for less than a second multiple times

[grim tusk]

Tml issue, solution is to install something

[gilded scroll]

(CalClone is also guilty of this after Bullet Hell 2 imo)

[novel belfry]

it's SO JARRING

[hollow shell]

That's quite strange

[deft yew]

As Overdone mentioned, why doesn’t it happen in Infernum then?

[novel belfry]

AND IT HURTS MY EARS BECAUSE I USE HEADPHONES

[deft yew]

It’s the same with Aureus

[hollow shell]

If it's been occuring since even before the 1.4.4 or even 1.4 ports, even until this day
and only for Cryo
Then
That definitely seems like an issue with Cryogen itself and not tModLoader

OH I think I have actually gotten it with Aureus, that sounds familiar

[novel belfry]

Hell, somehow Infernum fixed the problem so somethings off

[grim tusk]

https://github.com/tModLoader/tModLoader/issues/1693#issuecomment-1169464539

[fervent orbit]

aureus did have that problem before but it kinda just

stopped one day

[grim tusk]

^

[deft yew]

Cryo and Aureus issue isn’t exactly a stutter, is it? All audio completely cuts out

[hollow shell]

mm
Be careful with that

If you expand the scope too much then the suggestion won't seem as easy to implement

[grim tusk]

1.4, its known that the audio driver tml used on 1.4 was completely broken and idk if it got changed

[gilded scroll]

yeah, thats fair, im just gonna bulli Cryogen and CalClone.

[grim tusk]

As for 1.4.4 no clue

[drowsy plank]

cryo it doesnt even make much sense

you could very easily add an "explosion" as he cracks indicating the phase changes lol

[gilded scroll]

that is a solution that i plan on suggesting, but i think it spinning in place for a moment before phase 6 to indicate its gonna start charging could make sense

yknow, im probably not gonna include the CalClone bit, because all the main problems Cryo has also applies to them as well (the only change is that CalClone's dashing is more aggressive and leaves semi-lingering projectiles)

[fervent orbit]

you should mention which other bosses this happens to, so the devs dont have to go searching themselves

c:

[gilded scroll]

true, good point

i could suggest CalClone, maybe Old Duke or Yharon

[fervent orbit]

you could reword
"Bosses are great in this mod, but some of them are guilty of instantly changing phases with little to no indicators. One example would be Cryogen"
to
"Bosses are great in this mod, but some of them are guilty of instantly changing phases with little to no indicators. For example, there is: CalClone, Cryogen, (other examples here). Let's take an indepth look at Cryogen specifically and show how these instant phase switches can be an issue"

[gilded scroll]

yeh im just gonna borrow that bit lol

[hollow shell]

ehh
If you're focusing your suggestion on Cryogen then it'd better to just change the suggestion to focus only on Cryogen

Instead of implying that it's a broader issue but not getting into any of the other bosses

[gilded scroll]

dammit, thumbs

[hollow shell]

It'll be easier for devs to check it off that way

[fervent orbit]

or make the phase switching issues be more "generic" so that they could easily be swapped out for all of the bosses

[gilded scroll]

noted. ill change that bit when my thumbs dont want to hunder me

[hollow shell]

You can make CalClone's a separate suggestion

[fervent orbit]

uhh lance

you kinda left in

[gilded scroll]

yeah i know

im working on it

[fervent orbit]

(other examples here) moment

[gilded scroll]

fingers slipped

how about
"Cryogen, while being an amazing introduction to Calamity's hardmode, has a pretty glaring issue" as an opener?

[golden tulip]

i think youre thinking about it too hard

[gilded scroll]

i mean, i at least want it to make sense

eh screw it, ill just say Cryogen has an issue, list the issue, suggest things to fix the issue, and go about my day

[hollow shell]

byeah you don't gotta make this like an essay or a news article
Devs know who Cryogen is, if Cryo's got an issue then just-

yeh

[deft yew]

Why is the first part in quotation

[hollow shell]

He's still editing

[deft yew]

m

[hollow shell]

There ya go

Nice

[gilded scroll]

15 minutes of my life now wasted

huh. havent made a suggestion that wasnt a total joke in a while

[inland saddle]

Bot will be going down for a minute as I need to update my VM

[golden tulip]

you will be murdered for this action

[ashen warren]

what's a crying oven

[fervent orbit]

if something goes wrong im blaming you doesnt matter wat it is im gonna blame you /j

[gilded scroll]

(i need to go find my first suggestion and take a picture of it.)

legit proud that my joke actually got into the mod

[deft yew]

Huh

[gilded scroll]

so ya know how theres wulfrum furniture now?

[deft yew]

💀

[gilded scroll]

it was me whos responsible for it
why?

because i had a joke with my friend about wulfrum toilets

(well, im responsible for the suggestion anyways)

[golden tulip]

it was probably already planned

[novel belfry]

and now wulfrum toilet is real

[distant gyro]

wulfrum john

[gilded scroll]

eh, i like to say i helped lol

(even if its a total lie)

its the small victories. ah well, lets see if my sugg gets approved in the future

[dense ferry]

About this last thing

I talked a lot on Dev about making better phase transitions for pretty much every Boss

And Cryogen was on that list

[hollow shell]

resisting the intense urge to quip about the ineffectiveness of bringing up something in the dev server

[pine star]

quip anyway

[hollow shell]

basically just did
Self-fulfilling quip

[deft yew]

By mentioning the urge to quip, you have effectively already quipped

So just quip freely

[hollow shell]

~ Sun Tzu

[inland saddle]

Bot should be back

[ashen warren]

common nycro w

[inland saddle]

Unfortunately I did take an L today

Amazon did not notify me I had exhausted my free tier for like 3 months

[ashen warren]

..ah

[inland saddle]

They charged me roughly $45 for everything

And it's 100% my fault so I can't dispute it lmao

[fervent orbit]

yes that is usually what happens when u get free trials of subs

[inland saddle]

Oh well though, live and learn

[fervent orbit]

u get it, u forget, u pay

[ashen warren]

i disabled mine when it ran out because i didnt need the bots anymore, but they at least informed me it was about to end

[inland saddle]

I have this now

[ashen warren]

thats dumb

[ashen warren]

[inland saddle]

Not gonna forget next time

[ashen warren]

we will see

[inland saddle]

Time to create my 4th currently running AWS account

Probably like #7 total lmao

[ashen warren]

jeez

[inland saddle]

Free tier should simply be permanent

[ashen warren]

do you have multiple at once?

[inland saddle]

I do yeah

[inland saddle]

That's what these are

[ashen warren]

i do remember how, painfully slow it was to do anything on directly

[inland saddle]

3 separate VM's because I have a lot of bots running

[grave zinc]

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Meld it’s own dye]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[ashen warren]

ye i can imagine it kinda grinds to a literal halt with several bots on it

[inland saddle]

I found some tricks doing things to make it a lot smoother

[grave zinc]

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change the Drill Containment Unit's pickaxe power in some way]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[livid coral]

Let's not.

[inland saddle]

I've found I can run up to 4 bots on 1 VM at a time, but it's better to give them some breathing room, so I limit myself to 3

[grave zinc]

@fleet flume - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add post-Lunatic Cultist materials to the absorber's recipe]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[inland saddle]

With the exception of AstroBot, which has it's own VM

[ashen warren]

i think i had 4? but like two were super basic

like they had a join message when someone joins and a single reply command basic

[novel belfry]

Real

[inland saddle]

NohitBot, kcb, and used to be Infernum were on one, will probably be replaced with activity check when I get back in touch with H+^, I made it for them
Suggbot, Translator, and Art are on another
Astro has it's own because it's so FAT

I had another VM for hosting servers like MC and Terraria, but it wasn't beefy enough, so I swapped to local hosting and now the VM is empty... so I actually don't have to make my 4th, I can run it on that one

[fervent orbit]

draedon being a translator bot is so hilarious

he has pre programmed knowledge of everyone all languages

[ashen warren]

true

i remember trying to port my mod bot from python to c#

was a while ago

mostly went ok, but i couldnt seem to find how to add permissions to slash commands for some reason

and now i have no use for the bots so lol

[inland saddle]

Which library did you use?

[ashen warren]

uhh

the default discord.net one i think

honestly i dont remember any specifics it was over a year ago now

[inland saddle]

DSharpPlus is what I use for all my bots

It's like Discord.NET on crack (in a good way)

[ashen warren]

that might sound familiar?? idk lmao

well if i ever dabble in them again ill give that one a looksie :p

[fleet flume]

Neat. I discoveredd some more things that could benefit from a change like this, but I forgot what they were.

[sleek turret]

very true suggestion

mass craft them with like 1 spelunk potion + 100 glowsticks

[drowsy plank]

the

whole point is you have to go in the caverns to get it and find an equivalent enemy

if you made spelunk craftable they'd have to change the recipe

[crude geode]

I'd really rather not have more crafting recipes

just make skele merchant more common if you have like bones in your inventory if this is so much of a problem

[crude geode]

classic

[livid coral]

Speedrunner

[ripe owl]

Hey doesn't #suggestions-posting message have any proper reasoning?

[novel belfry]

#suggestions-voting message okay so this sugg repost failed to get to devs so uh what do ya'll think of it

[ripe owl]

Like, okay, it has a reasoning but it's not properly explained or anything

[drowsy plank]

i mean does it really need more
it's suggesting that the bestiary's vanilla entry's be changed to line up with cal lore when it's enabled

kinda just makes sense to me

doesn't really need much in terms of a why

[hollow shell]

It is really minimal (and I would prefer if it was structured differently, that's not a good title)
but I understand the entire problem immediately upon reading it

Maybe that's cuz I already know about the lore conflicts
I spose they could explain the issue more for people who don't know what things conflict

[oblique geyser]

Can I suggest renaming Phangasm?

[wide river]

I don't see why not

It's not dedicated or anything

[brazen minnow]

Do you have a grudge against fangasms

[novel belfry]

fangasms

LOAFK

hilarious, i am going now use that term in the future

[grim tusk]

Phatasm + orgasm
?

Needs a rename tbh

[drowsy plank]

it really does

a rename could coincide with a bit of a retheming too bc rn it really do just be phantasm 2 and not much else lmao

[novel belfry]

rename it to Phantasm Mk. 2, it's as shrimple as that

[drowsy plank]

🥹

no

[pine star]

dumb idea:
Ultra Phantasm

[hollow shell]

mmm yeah that probably does need a rename

[tardy geyser]

True phantasm

[golden sonnet]

Phantasmer

[small timber]

rename Phangasm to The Phantasmal Deathray

A bow that shoots a laser beam that summons more phantom arrow to chase the enemy on hit

we already have Eye of Cthulhu and The Eye of Cthulhu this 100% makes sense

shirley

[drowsy plank]

rename it to Phantasmagoria

it already uses nightmare fuel after all

[golden sonnet]

I actually like that

[novel belfry]

thats actually cool

[brazen minnow]

How about "Phasmophobia"

[drowsy plank]

that

doesnt make any sense

phantasmagoria is the idea of creating what are effectively "light show" phantoms for horror plays which connects to the fact that phantasm creates "phantom arrows" when firing while also tying into the nightmare fuel aspect of the recipe

phasmophobia is just the fear of ghosts which like

idk i mean it does have nightmare fuel and polterplasm in it, i guess??

it doesnt have the same kind of ring to it i feel

[glass arch]

the phasmophobia name sugg is probably just

a reference to phasmophobia

(the game

[drowsy plank]

the game, yeah.

[hollow shell]

I didn't realize Phantasmagoria had an actual definition and wasn't just the name of a game series
until I looked it up just now

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[hollow shell]

name the bow Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh

[drowsy plank]

i just picked a cool thematic word not everything has to be a reference 💥

[wide river]

Me when a word exists (it must be referencing something there is no other explanation)

[glass arch]

well

its obviously referencing the dictionary

[wide river]

💥

[worldly sparrow]

thematic is a reference

to maps

[sand marlin]

Suspicious Looking Jelly Bean's functionality is to be able to fastfall underwater @ancient crow, as it is your reasoning is pretty lacking and does not go over the most important detail, you should add that in for a better comparison

[ancient crow]

edited, how's it look now

[sand marlin]

It looks fine as a suggestion to me but that might have to go to #1042197406776827914 should've said that earlier

[small timber]

so what the suggestion mean is

we should nerf queen slime saddle and king slime mount to be worse than suspicious jelly bean
and then just tell people to use gravistar sabaton

[ancient crow]

balance-suggestions seems to be specifically for weapons and stat boosters, i guess the bean is technically gear but it doesn't really seem like the sort of thing they're talking about there

[cobalt pewter]

remove bean

[north oracle]

true

[oblique geyser]

Yeah, that latter part is why it needs it

[wind rune]

That is... Surprisingly fitting

[ripe owl]

Phangasmoria

[wintry gale]

can i make more than one sugg in a short period of time?

[north oracle]

iirc it's 2 in posting at a time in general

[wintry gale]

dang it

i have so many things to suggest

[north oracle]

just post 5 over 3 days

[cobalt pewter]

you can thank me for that

[wintry gale]

what

[north oracle]

…seriously

Well done?

[lucid marsh]

Holy shit guys look:

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Fogbound_Dye

The fogbound

It's real

[halcyon zealot]

@wintry gale the last sentence of your recent sugg is not reasonably understandable

And if it checks... what exactly do you want happen after the check

[grim tusk]

I thought most people used Q

Or mouse buttons that are not left or right click

[wintry gale]

Any key above/bellow/next to A or D will make it more difficult when you have to switch direction to dash

[grim tusk]

You get used to dashing with practice

At first i struggled with Q

But then it became more natural

[wintry gale]

Well
The dash doesnt happen if the check detects another function being played

Or at least thats how i think the coding behind it works
Maybe im just talking shit because i dont know nothing about it

[wide river]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this, but you want the Dash Double Tap Override to not work if it's bound to the same key as another keybind?

[wintry gale]

Not totally
In example:
If the dash override is bind to Rmb
If you dont interact with anything and just click in the air, the dash will happen
If you do like, talk to npc, open a chest, etc
It will not execute the dash

[halcyon zealot]

I assumed most used LShift

[wintry gale]

Should i rewrite to make it more clear?

[halcyon zealot]

yee

I am very confused by it

[wintry gale]

Lemme see what i can do

[wintry gale]

I thought about that already but
Once previously i binded lshift to a constant use, it started hurting my hand

[tired haven]

That sounds more troubled than it currently is
Not getting a dash because your smart cursor sees a tombstone will be devious

essentially the solution is to not bind multiple things like that or accept the consequences

[halcyon zealot]

that's a neat example you could consider adding to the sugg

[halcyon zealot]

I share the same sentiment overall

[wintry gale]

who uses smart cursor during a bossfight

[tired haven]

Anybody who forgot to turn it off

[wintry gale]

i just did

[halcyon zealot]

[wintry gale]

hmmm

i will start using a different keybind by now

W

[golden tulip]

use the left mouse button

[halcyon zealot]

[deft yew]

This would be much simpler to figure out if Cal didn’t have a morbillion keybinds

[sleek turret]

merge all rogue keybinds into 1 keybind

[tired haven]

It would also be easier if terraria highlighted conflicting keybinds

I did once do an image of keybinds out of curiosity because cal keybinds are a bit too vast

Wonder if I can find it now

[wide river]

That would probably cause issues (Spectral Veil and Blunder Booster having completely different effects and it being well within reason that you'd have both on)

[sleek turret]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-robert-helpmann-gif-11858302410808955060

[wide river]

Teleport to the cursor and dash!

Something like that could be cool actually
...If it weren't Terraria and was actually balanced

[tired haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458432092301295618/1053029698176831549/key.png

green is vanilla, red is cal
overlap is, in fact, overlap

[drowsy plank]

trying to fit all the controls on the keyboard in terraria is suprisingly difficult

[royal tapir]

Well for starters, Sand Cloak should be merged with Booster Dash, why does Sand Cloak have its own hotkey

[drowsy plank]

erm but what if you want to stack the preHM accessory with the late hardmode one!!

[wide river]

What even is vanilla's "C"

[glass arch]

grapple iirc

[wide river]

That's "E", I thought?

[glass arch]

i have no idea

[royal tapir]

Journey Powers

[wide river]

Ah, that would make sense
I don't play Journey enough

[sleek turret]

yeah C is journey powers

i put it on F generally so it doesn't conflict with calamity keybinds

(in the ocassion i'm playing calamity, ofc)

otherwise all the rogue keybinds go to numpad

[wintry gale]

C stands for cheat

Or creative mode

[buoyant idol]

Could Spectral Veil's teleport be merged with Normality Relocator? Both are post ML hotkey teleports that inflict chaos state.

[small timber]

Just put the rogue items keybind to numpad

Not like the player cant reassign keybind themselves anyway

[buoyant idol]

People without Numpads:

[tired haven]

that made me realize I should have colored 1-10 green

[tired haven]

Probably, at face value that sounds fine

[buoyant idol]

Rage and Adrenaline could also be merged, who wouldn't use them together?

[tired haven]

I don't

[buoyant idol]

Oh wait Adrenaline DR exists

[tired haven]

It's a bit of a wonky topic because combining keybinds means that most people are expected to either never use those functions together or they do not conflict whatsoever

[small timber]

Why are people so fixed on assigning perfect keybinds to items when the player can assign it themselves anyway

[tired haven]

Which is probably why the separate keybinds are so persistent

since they are not conflicting that way and few players who want more concise controls are able to tie them together

[buoyant idol]

To reduce the amount of keys used.

[tired haven]

To be fair, some will just set everything to default because they don't know better (literally), and then experience discomfort

So a good default set is a good thing to have

(cue me having stockholm syndrome about quick mana on J)

[small timber]

If there is currently no way to assign keybind themselves sure

But since they do are able to assign their own keybind I just dont see how that needs to be the case

Because at the end of the day it is not really about "neat and tidy keybind fit for all situation", it is about "what do the player need at the moment and the keybind they feel are easy to use"

For example, lets say (if) Sand Cloak keybind overlap with like, spectral veil or something

On paper it might not make sense (what does sand cloak have to do with teleport), but from another perspective you can just put both on a same easy to press button like Z because there is no situation you use sandcloak and spectral veil together due to their progression difference, so it is just an easy to press button for a preHM accessory

[buoyant idol]

True, it's a matter of which philosophy is used.

[grim tusk]

Thats what i do already

Although yes it makes sense

Heck maybe even if the logic was changed so that veil teleport is prioritized due to having less cooldown, gives you iframes and refills your stealth

[sleek turret]

TRUE

you have to y'know make game accesible to players with and without numpad

same with other options like uhh screenshake intensity and afterimages

[drowsy plank]

is

is this even correct?

im gonna be honest it does feel like Cal kinda dropped the ball on some changes that flipped world seed addressed but idk

[golden sonnet]

if by "correct" you mean intentional, idk

if you mean it's true they don't spawn, yes, that is true

[drowsy plank]

wack

[dire lotus]

you know

I think it would be interesting if we had more Dart weapons

and/or dart ammo types

[drowsy plank]

@weary ledge #1042197406776827914

[weary ledge]

Oh that's a thing now?

Ok

[novel belfry]

just warning you, some people in this chat apparently DESPISE adding new dart weapons

[drowsy plank]

that's not true

that doesn't make it any less of a subclass/SiS don't tho

[wide river]

I'd say it's the opposite really

A good few people want more dart stuff since it's so neglected

[weary ledge]

(How do I use this thread?)

[drowsy plank]

uh

click on it?

and just like

talk about ur issue

there aren't really as many definite rules in there just mention what you think is a problem

[weary ledge]

Ok

[dire lotus]

darts are cool!

They're a pretty damn underrated early hardmode option for rangers

and the fact that you can get so many shots from just one of the resource you craft them from makes them pretty efficient

[neat linden]

funnily enough there was a late hardmode dart weapon in the past but it got removed

[dire lotus]

It's just a shame that they fall off from lack of options so quickly

it's like the throwing class

[drowsy plank]

charged dart blaster moment

[neat linden]

darn you devs !! !!

[drowsy plank]

there is no throwing class anymore lol

[dire lotus]

exactly

but when it did exist that was it's problem

it was so underdeveloped and had nothing for hardmode

[neat linden]

my personal opinion is that it shouldn't have been removed
it was a funny weapon and it was the only dart weapon cal had, and it wasn't as much of bloat compared to the other 223 trillion weapons removed in the same version

[dire lotus]

also forgive me for asking but is there a reason why calamity hasn't added any whips yet

im just curious

[crude geode]

Balance

[drowsy plank]

whips

[worldly sparrow]

yeah balance

[dire lotus]

how so

[worldly sparrow]

whip balance is something

[neat linden]

balancing whips is very

[coral carbon]

they have to balance summoner before they start adding more to summoner

[coral carbon]

balancing whips is

[worldly sparrow]

1.1x whip tag is useless early game but crazy near endgame so you find whips being used far past their tier regularly

[coral carbon]

quite difficult

[sleek turret]

They're fun to use.

(that's it)

[worldly sparrow]

case in point - kaliedoscope

[crude geode]

Cal summoner was barely (if it even was) balanced beforehand, so adding whips which could get absurd kill times needs a lot of fine tuning and work

[worldly sparrow]

kali is currently the second best weapon in the mod only behind ichor spear so yeah

and then other whips are also crazy

take firecracker

[neat linden]

cal summoner
balanced
pick one

[dire lotus]

leather whip only run

[worldly sparrow]

which stays viable well into post-ml

[dire lotus]

no summons only leather whip

how far can one get

[wide river]

Exos

[dire lotus]

damn

bro

first time i tried exos

[coral carbon]

(technically early-hardmode) pre-golem weapon being viable for scal

[wide river]

(That's not me saying how far it gets btw)

[dire lotus]

i had like, the best equipment possible for the exos

and i died in seconds

those things are nuts

[worldly sparrow]

skill tissue

[dire lotus]

ill skissue

[marble moat]

why is ichor spear so good

[worldly sparrow]

its projectile's iframes were changed

so now its viable on provi

for a pre-mech weapon

[marble moat]

how does that work

[worldly sparrow]

i-frames are a complicated thing to explain

but in this case

the projectiles dont block eachothers hits

anymore

so it now hits WAY more than it should

[marble moat]

like how much more

what are the funny dps numbers

[worldly sparrow]

i dont have those but i do have boss killtimes

[golden sonnet]

(dps means nothing compared to killtimes anyway)

[oblique geyser]

Only warning tip I'm gonna be handing out, any Wing Slot/Boots Slot hate will be met with the message barely being read and the person being blocked, I've had enough of people judging others for the mods they use.

[glass arch]

it has a like 2 minute provi kt

[golden sonnet]

how is this relevent to this channel or discussion

[oblique geyser]

It's not

[worldly sparrow]

alright

[oblique geyser]

It's a copypasta

[coral carbon]

is this a wrong channel moment mister wyvernelement

[worldly sparrow]

oh

[golden sonnet]

oh, lmao

[oblique geyser]

[golden sonnet]

I didn't know it was a copypasta lmao, was judging you ngl

[worldly sparrow]

yeah

[glass arch]

copypasta detected, lethal force engaged

[worldly sparrow]

copypasta is too short for most to recognize it as one

[oblique geyser]

Someone said this to me in CMT once

I said wing slot isn't balanced because it's an extra accessory slot

[worldly sparrow]

lmao

[coral carbon]

i dont judge people for using it but its certainly not balanced or "QoL"

[worldly sparrow]

> wing slot is an extra accesory slot and is unbalanced

"Only warning tip I'm gonna be handing out, any Wing Slot/Boots Slot hate will be met with the message barely being read and the person being blocked, I've had enough of people judging others for the mods they use."

[glass arch]

i dont give a shit if you use wingslot just dont complain about shit being unbalanced

[coral carbon]

true

[worldly sparrow]

honestly no need to say the copypasta though

[golden tulip]

to be fair i imagine it is annoying to be judged every time

[oblique geyser]

okay fair

[worldly sparrow]

they could've at least just said it more politely

cuz that shit comes off as rude

[oblique geyser]

When I make a content mod I'm gonna make the difficulty mode disable if wingslot is installed

[golden tulip]

lame

[ashen warren]

agreed

let the player play as they want

unless it literally breaks your thing dont restrict things

[golden tulip]

the whole thing about mods is they can do whatever they want and adds a lot of customization abilities

[ashen warren]

some people need the help from stuff like that, you dont gain much from denying it

[golden tulip]

based toasty

[golden sonnet]

it's the same as difficulty elitism, people should play whatever they enjoy and are comfortable with, and unless they are complaining about things being too easy or too hard, their own handicap or buffs are perfectly fine

[worldly sparrow]

personally i dont like wingslot but i used it in the past so i cant complain + you do what you want

[wide river]

The entire reason mods exist is for people to change the game to play how they want
Telling people off for playing how they want is just... no

If it doesn't hurt anyone, let it be

[dire lotus]

no way kali from library of ruina real

[sleek turret]

honk mimimimi 💤

it's the same shit as that one mod that did something when you had luiafk enabled

[fossil finch]

disabling features of mods because yre cheating!!! Youre cheating!!! is dumb,..,

[golden tulip]

floating items are fucking stupid same for lore items

why do they float

[golden sonnet]

Although there are fixes to this such as Ceaseless Hunger Potions existing, I agree you shouldn't need to kill a boss to craft a potion just to find your loot

[golden sonnet]

agreed, Lore floating is quite annoying, especially early game when you have to build to get to it

and they drop seperate from the bag so you can't even avoid it by playing expert+ like you can with other floating drops

[golden tulip]

good sugg will vote

[golden sonnet]

@violet torrent I think adding Lore items to your suggestion could be good as well, as they also float, and are dropped at a time where the player often doesn't have access to wings or jumps to even get to the items.

[golden tulip]

just make it about floating items in general

not specifically yharon soul

[golden sonnet]

^

[hollow shell]

Give Yharon a death box

[ashen warren]

so true

[golden sonnet]

lmao

[violet torrent]

I changed it to include lore

I don't really get annoyed about any other floating items besides lore and fragments

[golden tulip]

i would make it about floating items in general

[violet torrent]

Yeah, alright, I'll edit it

[lucid marsh]

The items floating would be more ok if they dropped from the treasure bag

So it didn't matter

[golden tulip]

good title change but the first paragraph would also need to be edited

[lucid marsh]

I would make Yharon soul fragments drop from the treasure bag

[golden tulip]

or just
everything
sorry

[golden sonnet]

they do, this just discriminates against normal mode players

[lucid marsh]

And the lore items show up on the map

Oh right

Normal mode. Forgot about that

Oh wait, pillar fragments show up on the minimap

[north oracle]

and this is an issue?

[lucid marsh]

Er, regular map

Make all floating items do that

[golden sonnet]

Pretty sure that;s boss checklist

[ashen warren]

do they? i tried dropping some and they didn't

[drowsy plank]

boss checklist moment

[ashen warren]

isnt that a boss checklist thing?

ye

[drowsy plank]

yes

but honestly i feel like most floating items should

would help a lot

[lucid marsh]

Oh

[ashen warren]

agreed

[lucid marsh]

Maybe calamity should make floating items do that too

[golden sonnet]

^

I feel like this could be a good alternative to the current suggestion

[violet torrent]

They do?

I edited the suggestion

[golden tulip]

just stop them from floating pls

[violet torrent]

its still a little awkward because I didn't want to rewrite the whole thing but I believe it works well enough

[ashen warren]

(they do not)

lore items imo shouldn't float byeah

[lucid marsh]

I meant that calamity should make them do that

[violet torrent]

Ohh, yeah

I put 3 options that would work, making them show up on the map, making them not float or adding an indicator for latest boss kill

[lucid marsh]

Although, aren't boss lore items being removed in favor of other things eventually?

[golden sonnet]

they are, but no need to suffer in the meantime

[lucid marsh]

True

[golden sonnet]

as who knows when that will actually be implimented

[violet torrent]

I also believe that the trophy recipe is dumb and should be trophy OR relic

as grinding for a trophy for a few sentences seems a bit much

[sleek turret]

replace trophy by idk something related from the boss or dropped by the boss

[violet torrent]

Or make it just trophy, mask or relic

[sleek turret]

ashes of calamity (calclone's drop material ?) + victory shards

[violet torrent]

What're victory shards?

[sleek turret]

desert scourge's drop material iirc

used to craft a bunch of victide stuff i think

[ashen warren]

those got renamed though didn't they

[violet torrent]

pearl shards

[sleek turret]

prism shards yea

or smth like that

[violet torrent]

calamity devs please rename

it is so confusing

[sleek turret]

Lore 🤷‍♂️

[south bolt]

Wait, people actually read those long ass lore entries? I always throw them away

[sleek turret]

i suppose yes

[fervent orbit]

yes

[south bolt]

Dang

Am I an a minority here

[golden tulip]

i think theyre interesting but also so convoluted

[glass arch]

yes thats

[golden sonnet]

The lore is actually interesting, of course you can just Google it instead of the inventory clutter tho

[glass arch]

the entire point of the items existing

[sleek turret]

they're,

[glass arch]

[south bolt]

I knew the lore before ever playing the mod

[sleek turret]

Yharim's ultra biased point of view of things really

[fervent orbit]

you probably dont

[south bolt]

A good bit of it

[glass arch]

everything is gonna be biased in some way unless its the bestiary

[south bolt]

Not any of the deep stuff tho

[fervent orbit]

have astrum deus and dog ever met

[sleek turret]

yeah but aren't lore items yharim's biased pov

[south bolt]

I don't believe so

[glass arch]

yes

[fervent orbit]

ok atleast u know that much

[sleek turret]

so?

[lucid marsh]

He lies a lot

[sleek turret]

that's bias!

[glass arch]

indeed

yharim is not a good person

[south bolt]

I just know yharims the big bad evil guy and calamitis' family died and then she went to yharim and then realized he was evil and sent golem after him to escape and like that's it

And there was a big ol war

[fervent orbit]

golem

[south bolt]

That's what wolfram guts are for

[sleek turret]

sure killing a lot of people will affect me! (doesn't affect him)
but killing a mechanised queen bee hits his ego so hard he copes and seethes

[south bolt]

Wasn't yharims empire like in the jungle temple

[lucid marsh]

Oh this was replaced

[south bolt]

Maybe that's old lore

Alrighty

[sleek turret]

yea old lore

[lucid marsh]

Yeah that's all old lore

It's more complicated now

[south bolt]

Me using info from a lore video I watched 5 years ago

[sleek turret]

it's scramble eggs now

[coral carbon]

yeah that would explain it

[south bolt]

I could recount all vanilla lore though. Even that's not canon to calamity

[glass arch]

vanilla lore is

[fervent orbit]

‎

there i just recounted all vanilla lore

[sleek turret]

something something up to the player and some old manuscriptures images of lore or smth

[lucid marsh]

NPC happiness dialogue and bestiary entries exist

And they're stupid as fuck

[sleek turret]

they're silly

[lucid marsh]

And contradictory

[sleek turret]

vanilla doesn't take themselves too seriously tbh

compared to calamity where it's SERIOUS MODE all times (except like 1-2 bestiary entries and some other items)

and vanilla is ok for that!! tbh because the game itself is alredy silly

[fervent orbit]

"Though Goldfish thrive in their ponds and lakes, many take to land during storms to feed on the worms that have also surfaced. There are even accounts of aquatic warriors who carry daggers of shimmering gold, though most consider these tales far too fishy to be credible."

[sleek turret]

canonization of a donor content (???)

[fervent orbit]

its still not canon

[fossil finch]

what we dont like

is the fact

that vanilla has the same entry for all slimes

[sleek turret]

and also every gold critter

[fossil finch]

(terrapiklopedia entries ptsd)

[lucid marsh]

I would love something more like the pikolopedia for terraria

[fossil finch]

we were writing that!

it is hell

we had to ocme up wih 20 slime scientific names

[lucid marsh]

understandable. Were?

take it slow and you can do it

[fossil finch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YhI6j3E7WFGuoXuyxl4beT078dEqctsmxqUmUPwMp7Q

not GReat

when we were doing zombies we were so tired we just started doing pvz almanac entries lol

[north oracle]

…was that seriously ok to go to voting
huh

[coral carbon]

how did that get to voting lmfao

[crude geode]

Bc likely no one bothered to ping a mod?

It’s not uncommon

[north oracle]

I pinged Cei because lore stuff

[astral python]

Floating Boss Drops problem: “I can’t find the boss drop because it’s floating”

Ceaseless Hunger Potion exists, that could help

[coral carbon]

That was brought up before and isn't really a valid solution

[astral python]

True, maybe changing accessibility for the potion would help circumvent the floating items issue

[golden tulip]

having to use a potion to solve a design flaw rather than actually just solving the flaw altogether is not a good idea

[lavish condor]

ceaseless hunger is also post-ceaseless

[worldly sparrow]

my problem with this one is that tier 3 would only play for 3 bosses

[drowsy plank]

this seems so silly

to design around something that is prone to drastically changing very soon

lmao

[hollow shell]

I full agree with Shipman's suggestion

[cloud surge]

oh are more boss rush themes coming soon or something?

[hollow shell]

It's actually how I imagined the themes would be implemented with there only being 3

[worldly sparrow]

i feel like the themes should be t1 for pre-hm t2 for hardmode and t3 for post-ml

[hollow shell]

considering the first two tiers especially get butchered no matter what
Having one theme for those two makes sense to me

because it goes by just as fast as later single tiers

[cloud surge]

yeah it was mostly just a suggestion of how it could be structured, doesnt need to be exactly like that

[worldly sparrow]

t3 shouldn't just be the final 3 bosses though

[hollow shell]

It would be basically no effort to change which tiers play which themes, they can do it in a patch, and it's not a commitment

[worldly sparrow]

thats too short

[cloud surge]

ill add an or in the suggestion for that structure

[worldly sparrow]

byeah t3 should not play for all of post-plant

[hollow shell]

T1 & T2: Theme 1
T3 (& T4?): Theme 2
(T4 &?) T5: Theme 3
(rough time-spent-based division)

or

T1: Theme 1
T2 & T3: Theme 2
T4 & T5: Theme 3
(PreHM HM PostML -based division)

[worldly sparrow]

and its safe to say that t4 and t5 probably wont get their tracks anytime soon

[hollow shell]

Both of those arrangements are a little weird
but
Both are better than Theme 3 playing for what's probably 75% of the event

[deft yew]

"design around"

[golden tulip]

also wdym "very soon" did i miss somethimg

[wide river]

I assume it's Soon™️ and not soon

[sleek turret]

Soooooooon™

[golden tulip]

yea if youre gonna keep delaying things because something else is "coming soon" you could wait 3 years

[crude geode]

Almost the entire mod is prone to drastically changing ‘very soon’

Doesn’t mean people can’t make suggs about what’s in game

[cobalt pewter]

speaking of 3 years

[buoyant idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/894671631404925018/934944780000043078/SPOILER_image0_1-1-1-2-1.gif

Finally

Thank Cog this got in

[hollow shell]

Pog

pognitiveAfflatus

[wide river]

So true

[novel belfry]

turns out, in order to get the mod to do shit, you have to make cog angry enough

[drowsy plank]

[novel belfry]

on the other hand GOD SLAYER FINALLY GETS ITS OWN WINGS

YA HOO

[wide river]

Can we retier the tracers now

[deft yew]

why not just kill them really

[royal tapir]

Current plan is to retier and retheme the Tracers

[north oracle]

nice

[buoyant idol]

I'm tempted to stop progressing once I beat the DoG just to fight Yharon with it.

[wide river]

Hmm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this just wants ambient background planetoids in the Space layer?

Sorta like the stuff you see flying around in most surface layers

[sleek turret]

yeah this sugg is pretty good

[north oracle]

it just needs to not say "it would be cool" every line or 2

[buoyant idol]

The astral also needs something like this too.

[small timber]

I am surprise you didnt just resubmit that old sprite

[hollow shell]

A lot of "it'd be cool" in this suggestion..

But also it's a suggestion for something purely aesthetic

so
Not that much objective reasoning could be provided

[cloud surge]

[north oracle]

If it just didn’t say “it would be cool” every line or 2 it would be fine probably

[wide river]

I think if a few of the "it'd be cool" mentions were removed it should be less opinionated and more-
Yeah

[sleek turret]

it would add more charm to the space layer 👍

[north oracle]

[sleek turret]

it's like how if you have the hell background enabled there's some demons flying around

it's a nice detail aside from the enourmous background which is alredy good

[novel belfry]

why dont we have those swarms of fiery things in the distance as enemies

unless they're like, hellbats?

[sleek turret]

yeah maybe they're hellbats or demons idk

but the fact is that they're pretty cool addition to the background

gotta make the world more lively

[grave zinc]

@fleet flume - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add post-Lunatic Cultist materials to the absorber's recipe]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[cloud surge]

i heard something about background effects like that being impossible to implement but i dont know how true that is since noxus mod has something like it

[vocal grotto]

Manipulating/adding sky elements is trivial unless we're talking hyperspecific effects that require mindbending amounts of IL editing

It has the same degree of freedom as any other Draw hook in other contexts. Restarting the spritebatch for shaders there is a bit wonky due to the transformation matrix generally using private data in that context, but none of that would be required to just draw some space rock sprites in the bg

[cloud surge]

epic

[fleet flume]

Oooh. I've never seen that before

[errant inlet]

Provide an option to turn off the visual effects of the sulphuric sea and the abyss as to improve performance
Every time i go to the sulphuric sea my framerate drops significantly and im pretty sure its because of the water lighting (these fps drops happen nowhere else)
Also make the sulphuric sea background removable, background off only removes the green glowing effect the environment has

[halcyon zealot]

have you for sure checked the sunken sea as well

[errant inlet]

Yep

Both the sunken sea and abyss lag like hell

[halcyon zealot]

So sunken sea, sulphuric sea, and abyss right

[errant inlet]

Yis

Insanely laggy

[halcyon zealot]

I wonder if it could be a water issue

[errant inlet]

No

Normal oceans dont lag

[halcyon zealot]

Those places tend to have alot of flowing & generating water, which the normal ocean doesn't have

[errant inlet]

No yiu dont understand

The areas were entirely fine before the pretty sparkle shit update

I didnt experience any fps drops

When the visual revamp update arrived THATS when it started

[brazen minnow]

Why not just mark on the map the location of up to 20 boss kill locations?

[halcyon zealot]

Add that information to your sugg

[halcyon zealot]

If possible, pinpoint which version this is (just search through patches on wiki

[errant inlet]

Will do later

[sleek turret]

very true suggestion

[drowsy plank]

moab got bigger problems these days xd

[fervent orbit]

it does but trust me the luck is important too

[halcyon zealot]

[solemn locust]

bloons no way

[hollow ridge]

@solemn locust no

[left hawk]

Why would murasama need a new swing it looks fine to me (also you need reasons for suggestions)

[hollow ridge]

👎

[solemn locust]

idk

[hollow ridge]

Bro can we fucking kill this weapon please

[solemn locust]

i hope you step on lego

[hollow ridge]

👎

[solemn locust]

no

thanks for your time

[wide river]

I imagine it's based off of "needs to look more accurate to the Metal Gear Rising: Revengance Murasama"

[solemn locust]

nah

i just want something like exo blade light thing

if that makes sense

[hollow ridge]

#suggestions-posting message

Make sure to read this

[solemn locust]

ok

i lowkey got good ideas now

[hollow ridge]

Always a good sign

[wintry gale]

Maybe its because murasama has been untouched since a while

[errant inlet]

Make an option to toggle the reworked effects of the sulphuric sea, abyss and sunken sea
These effects drastically impact performance on low end devices and have made these areas borderline unplayable ever since the visual biome rework

(this is purely for fun, i know its a SIS. Id just like to hear yalls opinions on it)

PINCER BLADES: BLOODLUST
-260 True Melee Damage
-Slow speed
-Tiny Knockback
-13% Critical Strike Chance
I'LL SPLIT YOU IN TWO!
When above 50% HP:
The player gains 6 shields, identical to those of Sundowner. The shields take 20 seconds to charge up and are only present when the weapon is being held.
Any enemy that dashes or moves towards the shield while it is active will get bounced back and dealt 250% the damage they would've dealt you. The shields take another 20 seconds to recharge after one use. Every time this weapon is not held, the charge timer resets to 20 seconds (and starts ticking down the moment the weapon is held). If the player regenerates their health up to 50% (while having had less than 50% prior to this), the charge timer will be present.
The weapon itself functions as 2 very bulky blades that are able to swing independently. Swinging any one of the blades will nudge the player in the direction the blade is swung in. When RAGE is used, the Pincer Blades charge forwards and backwards in an alternating tempo, stabbing and mutilating whatever happens to be in front of them. This ability disappears as soon as RAGE runs out.
When under 50% HP:
The pincer blades now form a pair of giant shears! Use left click to swing the blades up and down. Charge up a splitter attack by holding down RMB for 1.5 seconds, closing the shears, making the player dash forward and dealing insane damage while temporarily gaining immunity frames (does not work on projectiles). This charge ability has a 20 second cooldown, regardless of whether or not an enemy has been hit.
After a successful strike using the splitter dash attack, the player gains +15% melee speed.

[fervent orbit]

mmmm yes minus damage and crit chance

[errant inlet]

It heals the enemy

[grim tusk]

❗

[fervent orbit]

moderators

❗ this individual

[grim tusk]

Most balanced SIS
||ofc this is sarcasm||

[errant inlet]

Totally not me making up values on the go because i have no idea what its dps would be in game

It would be post DoG, that much is clear

[lucid marsh]

would't it be convenient if you could combine the axe of purity and regrowth?

especially since the inferna cutter and grax aren't useful for non melee players

[novel belfry]

I think i considered a sugg like that

here it was

but it was written poorly so

this literally uses the "it's cool" as part of its reasoning

someone else should rewrite this in a better way

[errant inlet]

Also i know this reply is late as fuck but what does ❗ mean in this context

[sleek turret]

it means your sugg has an issue to be addressed

[errant inlet]

It being a sis of course but i stated that already

[sleek turret]

ye

[deft yew]

Nope! Because you forgot one little caveat:

Ares exists

[worldly sparrow]

yeah melee doesn't have much for ares

instead just kill its ability to work early

[wide river]

It's reached the 👍 stage of development so that's entirely within the realm of possibility

(That's also what I'd prefer tbh, the Easter Egg is cool but I despise how it functions)

[north oracle]

progress

[worldly sparrow]

im all for playing the game how you want but if you're blasting through with murasama you might as well just be cheating till like, yharon

[wintry gale]

can i do another sugg already?

[wide river]

You only have one suggestion in posting, so yes I suppose

[wintry gale]

yay

[sleek turret]

@wintry gale good sugg,

however

celestial sigil change comes from vanilla I think

[wintry gale]

idr it being instantly when i used to play vanilla

[sleek turret]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Celestial_Sigil

it's a new change I think

[wintry gale]

ye

well i just edited the sugg

[sleek turret]

ye all good now

@lucid marsh awesome baller sugg

[undone holly]

vanilla changed it, but calamity still makes it faster

its instant in calamity but 12 seconds in vanilla

[brazen minnow]

What is the minimum votes required in #suggestions-voting to get to the dev server for voting? And what do the different emojis mean in #suggestions-voting?

[north oracle]

first question read the second pin in #suggestions-voting

2nd question read the third pin

[patent lily]

They should just put in fan made tier 4 and 5 tracks because there's a guy who made rlly good ones that sound like continuations of CdMusic's songs

[worldly sparrow]

they dont just put in fantracks

[north oracle]

This week the minimum appears to be mid 90s, but it changes every batch

[wintry gale]

soo i guess i gotta edit the sugg again ?

i mean

un-edit

[wide river]

@twilit mason While I do actually like this idea, unfortunately it's not valid for suggestions
This does fall under the SIS rule, which explicitly disallows suggestions like this due to how they were overly posted in the past

[twilit mason]

ok

[golden sonnet]

It also breaks the major addition, and no bosses rule. I would recommend reading all the rules for suggestions

[wide river]

^

[lucid marsh]

"finish the trilogy" is silly reasoning

We don't need another water biome

[north oracle]

we're well past this being flagged now
don't need to keep going on it

[worldly sparrow]

oh yeah there is a third scourge

ever heard of the scourge of the universe

more commonly known as dog

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

ur not wrong

[ashen warren]

i swear to fucking god

if i see one more of these sis suggestions

[pure whale]

But i need another water boss theme

[crude geode]

If you don’t like sis suggestions, maybe stop looking at the channel meant for shitty suggs

[frail mantle]

channel designed to filter out rule breaking suggestions
look inside
rule breaking suggestions

Quite honestly I don’t see a reason to get worked up over it

[north oracle]

[frail mantle]

If it’s someone who didn’t read the rules they didn’t do it to be an ass and you can just inform them

If they did read the rules and just decided they don’t care, it’s just a random person on the internet and they therefore aren’t real

Easy

[hollow shell]

(again
There is nothing to be mad about. #suggestions-posting exists for suggestions like this to get posted into it. ❗ exists to filter them out of #suggestions-voting )

ok cool others already said that

Debating whether or not to delete this now
Cuz it would indeed be against the rules for people to continue poking fun at it for the 24 hours its up

[lucid marsh]

I'm not mad I just think it's silly

Anyways how is my suggestion?

[vagrant spindle]

its pretty good, although it would make vitamins quite a bit harder to craft if you had to farm dye beetles

beetle juice should go asap, as its basically another desert feather situation

[lucid marsh]

I already get more than enough of them

The dye items I mean

[vagrant spindle]

yea but the enemies are relatively uncommon

derplings are everywhere

[lucid marsh]

Everything that drops beetle juice also drops dye husks

At a higher rate

You'll get some going underground before you reach hardmode for sure

[vagrant spindle]

i guess so

still miles easier than the vanilla method

[lucid marsh]

Yeah

Also btw you can just

Shimmer the one that's easier to get

Another shimmer related note:
Why was gelatin crystal shimmer removed? It was a nice way to get souls of light

And balanced with the demon altars giving souls of night

[north oracle]

consistency with the other removed QoL decrafts

i'm assuming

[lucid marsh]

Ah 😦

Also a good way to spend all those useless gelatin crystals now that they're not consumable

Hmm

Idea

[north oracle]

that is a reasonable decraft to keep imo, it doesn't break some locked stuff and provides a use for the excess crystals

but it seems to be a blanket "they're all gone" thing :p

[lucid marsh]

However, re-adding suggestions are banned

So I have an alternative

Make it an extractinator recipe

Or by hand decrafting like the bloody tear

[cobalt pewter]

extractinator could work

much like how some wulfrum accs are able to be used that way

[crude geode]

God I love crafting recipes for unique and interesting obtained items (largely unrelated to being able to uncraft gelatin)

Why explore the world when you can farm enemies

[lucid marsh]

I already explore to get crystal shards and souls of light

Er wait this isn't related to that

Then what is it about?

Also yeah every farming isn't very fun

It's better than having to dig for random garbage and fill the entire world with tunnels in some cases at least

But there are too many redundant materials

[ripe owl]

[ripe owl]

Can't you just

Shimmer the crystal?

[lucid marsh]

No because calamity removed that in a recent update 🙂

For all boss summon items

I can't suggest they revert this really useful and nice feature removal

Because it's against the rules

[ripe owl]

hrngh

[lucid marsh]

So I suggested the next best thing

Oh yeah unrelated but it would be nice if there was another way to get souls of night because farming enemies is slow and you need to break like all the demon altars in a biome for 20ish of them

Whereas the gelatin crystals are removable

[zenith wharf]

Freshwater flats sounds like a good biome. I mean adding a boss and it's own biome is a bit of a stretch, but like, it doesn't have much of an impact on the game, and the boss is just a mini boss. It could just be a big pond that counts as a biome

[bright crag]

We are already overloaded with bosses, and the Surface isn't exactly spacious after HM