suggestions-discussion

[royal tapir]

It got unpinned recently

Joey was slightly upset

[frosty trellis]

Wait why

[north oracle]

yeah, it's gone from pins

[glass arch]

is fuckin gone

[frosty trellis]

It was at the bottom of the pins list

[north oracle]

it used to be there

[frosty trellis]

Why was it unpinned is my question

[north oracle]

but it's not anymore

[glass arch]

oh well i still have the nohit doc saved to my google drive

[royal tapir]

/shrug

[north oracle]

i've just opened it enough that when i type nohit into my search bar it autofills

[lucid flare]

the memes that spawned with exo mechs arena size....

[glass arch]

exo arenas are goofy

i should learn how to make a subworld so i can make a world sized exos arena subworld tbh

[frosty trellis]

My exos arena that I use for testing is surface to top of the world and about 1/5th of the world in width

Which is honestly heavily overkill but for testing purposes it works well and lets me have enough wiggle-room to make shit work

[rancid jasper]

Real quick: are more general changes allowed in suggestions? I plan on recommending the focus on a wide scope of things and am not sure if that is allowed

[fossil finch]

Say here

[glass arch]

depends what you mean by wide scope

[fossil finch]

That way we can judge better

[lucid flare]

i never made an arena specifically for exos... i either used my yharon arena or my devourer atena

[glass arch]

and yeah post a rough draft here so we can suggest edits to it

[rancid jasper]

I want to suggest “more focus on other classes”, and “more love for rogue”

[glass arch]

wdym by other classes in this case

[fossil finch]

whats the "other classes"

[frosty trellis]

That is like

Very wide-scope

[rancid jasper]

Stuff like mage and ranger. I say melee and summoner has had their fun, but mage and ranger are not as fun as the others. And rogue feels underpowered.
This may be a preference thing, though

[frosty trellis]

Also any large-scale things or something that would take a large amount of effort is a don't

[small timber]

rogue is overpowered

period

[cobalt pewter]

rogue when

[frosty trellis]

Rogue is broken as fucking shit

[glass arch]

rogue feeling underpowered is more of a #1042197406776827914 topic anyways

[frosty trellis]

Rogue is the most broken class, offensively AND defensively

[small timber]

ranger have like, way too much weapon

[frosty trellis]

Melee notwithstanding

[small timber]

mage do need more love though

[cobalt pewter]

rogue has way too much iframes

[frosty trellis]

Mage needs the love

[glass arch]

mfw iframes

[polar pine]

you could probably suggest more weapons of this class on this tier

[frosty trellis]

Vamp talisman:

[rancid jasper]

Then I’ve just been playing bad

[polar pine]

given sufficient reasoning

[small timber]

rogue is very very very dependent on accessory, knowing the right accessory helps a lot

[rancid jasper]

I may do that. I’ll shelf the idea for now since I need to do other stuff soon

[small timber]

and of course stealth is (generally) better than spam on most weapon, so if you are just spamming it will give false impression

[frosty trellis]

Vamp Talisman, bloody glove, Tarragon Dodge, Spectral Viel, godslayer iframes, Auric Tesla only having 10 less defense than melee auric, I could go on

[small timber]

at least the broken stuffs tend to be more stealth than spam

[polar pine]

sand dollar

:)

[frosty trellis]

Oh right e.mirror for the free dodge as well

Like

[glass arch]

mage needs more love yeah
its a pretty accessory reliant class (not as much as rogue or summoner but its still decently reliant on accessories) and yet it has the least accessories out of any class

[rancid jasper]

I may try a rerun of rogue after my summon playthrough
I think my main problem was how centralizing it was on stealth strikes, and I absolutely love warding. I put that on everything

[frosty trellis]

If you think rogue is balanced by the fact it isn't as tanky as any other class

I want you

To look at

[small timber]

you are intended to use the stealth strike

[polar pine]

summoner

[small timber]

otherwise you are just using ranger

[lucid flare]

i also love warding

[small timber]

which is why stealth strike is made stronger than spam, generally

[frosty trellis]

THIS (This is in Rogue Auric Tesla)

[rancid jasper]

I don’t think that, I just disliked rogue because he was a glass cannon. I dislike glass cannons

[cobalt pewter]

I think Raider's talisman is a good way to integrate hybrid, but it's just the first step

plus accessories on rogue needs to Die

[rancid jasper]

ah.

[cobalt pewter]

(some of em)

[small timber]

rogue is far from glass cannon

[rancid jasper]

do you have warding or the stealth modifiers?

[small timber]

probably 2nd tankiest behind melee (in general case), but if you minmax it it is definitely the tankiest class

melee is better on "purely tanky and reducing damage", rogue have DR, dodge, iframe, healing to heal yourself back up etc etc

[frosty trellis]

Full warding since like
It was a showcase of how broken defense is

[small timber]

which generally is just better than "take less damage"

[rancid jasper]

So rogue is more potential tankiness while melee is consistent tankiness

[frosty trellis]

Yeah exactly

[small timber]

no, rogue is straight up tankier because recovery is tankiness

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

[small timber]

it is not just "potential tankiness", it is just how min max you want to go

[frosty trellis]

Vamp Talisman is a great offensive and defensive accessory bc even with lifesteal cooldown it is still broken

And e.glove for stealth

[small timber]

most people build it like glass cannon therefore rogue is not tanky, while melee is naturally tanky even if you try to make it glass cannon

but when you go tank rogue is by far better

[rancid jasper]

I like min/maxing, so I’ll probably try a different approach rather than just spamming stealth strikes

[glass arch]

insert defense argument image here

[wide river]

The classic

[rancid jasper]

cant headshot unless fully charged

[glass arch]

ALSO
yall remember the person with the pdf of whips n shit with a lot of ideas from a while back that i couldnt find
yeah i literally just found a copy of the pdf on my computer

[rancid jasper]

Also, how is early game rogue

[rancid jasper]

send it.
please.
I’d be very sad ):

[worldly basalt]

yea i remember, i was the one who asked for it

[glass arch]

i was looking for the defense thing and this showed up for some reason

[worldly basalt]

nice

[glass arch]

i got no idea how that relates to me searching my computer for a file that has defense in the name

[worldly basalt]

wow this is like twice as long as i thought it'd be

[rancid jasper]

pretty cool

[novel belfry]

Hello calcord #suggestions-discussion

[drowsy plank]

Real

[small timber]

"Cataclysm Fist"

[novel belfry]

Lol

[cobalt pewter]

actually would be nice to have the bros' weapons

maybe as exhumes

[drowsy plank]

also completely rethemeing and reworking another one of the popsicle swords

[half imp]

summoner:

[north oracle]

^

Defensively yeah rogue, but summoner’s more op offensively

[half imp]

rogue is also most op defensively when hard speccing into it imo, otherwise it's melee

[bright crag]

I certainly didn't slightly rework Turbulance to operate best on hybrid

[small timber]

raider's talisman just need to do even more

[toxic basalt]

71 votes on Destroyer sugg, come on people

[small timber]

if it is 5s of non-decaying 12% crit it will be average to ok, the fact that it decay is just make it 90% of the time unusable if not because spam rogue have 0 non-STN accessory

[bright crag]

You could suggest an increase in the time it takes to decay, if so

[cobalt pewter]

also give Raider's Talisman (and technically Nanotech too?) a slot in the cooldown rack

because it's hard to track the decay in the heat of battle

there's only so much one can internally count

[golden tulip]

yea but they are extremely basic to have as weapons

[cobalt pewter]

you can always think of ways to design them

without sticking too hard to the bros gameplay wise

[hollow shell]

obligatory mention that Iban etc etc

had plans to connect the two, completely rework the sword to the bro theme
woulda been neat, have mobility options
but ☠️

[cobalt pewter]

truly the loss of iban

[drowsy plank]

well im sure there's some other way you could connect them that isn't the same as iban's idea, probably?

[half imp]

connect it and brother clone

then exume into supreme

tbhh

[small timber]

you can also just rename the weapon to something not "catastrophe"

[half imp]

just do this fr https://youtu.be/uDVQ5uz6QUc

no bias

[ripe owl]

Brother
There is no brothers in that Catastrophical Candy Cane Sword

You've put Mechs into it

[half imp]

yes

because it's made from mechs

[small timber]

doesnt suspicious jelly bean have higher jump height or something

[unreal lark]

in calamity saddle and pillion were nerfed significantly, from their base move speeds of 20 and 53 to 10 and 16, respectively

[half imp]

jelly needs a huge buff

it's not even good in water

bc pogo exists

[unreal lark]

so bean has a much higher horizontal move speed
regardless, it does need a bit of a buff imo

[half imp]

pogo is way better horizontal

(pogo just blows saddles and bean out of the water)

[drowsy plank]

bean being twice the size for no reason doesn't help much either

[random pasture]

The thing is like

It has a faster jump, but QS flight gives it a higher jump. And since the mount can't bounce or glide and has floaty movement, its mobility overall is pretty much just worse than QS

[half imp]

and then there's pogo with a hook

[random pasture]

Its better exactly on the ground to jump over an attack

Also that

[half imp]

although slime being slow has legit uses

for example falling through laser walls

but bean has no real use

[random pasture]

Yeah, bean just kinda exists rn

[fossil finch]

Catastrophe Claymore rework proof of concept (it's a blank video

(This is a removal jok

[swift wharf]

the the

the sword that inflicts fire fire(ice) and ichor

(all dust)

[buoyant idol]

Why do random weapons use celestial fragments not from their class? I don't see why things like the Stellar Contempt uses Nebula Fragments and the like. Perhaps all the direct pillar weapons should only use their respective fragments to reduce confusion over what pillars to take out.

[glass arch]

nah i think its a nice break from only ever using one fragment aside from galactica singularities

[buoyant idol]

You have a point there, this change would make one fragment always in need and the others in surplus

[worldly basalt]

theming mostly

[glass arch]

as long as its not a weapon thats made with just fragments and has a different class damage its fine

so like, no weapons made with just solar frags that deals ranged damage

[swift wharf]

you still get fragments from other classes anyway

so it doesn't matter

And yeah it is theming

lazhar, spectralstorm cannon, scorched earth, helium flesh all use solar fragments because of fire

storm ruler uses vortex because of wind

please don't ask about stardust fragment

[wide river]

Stardust fragment doesn't exist

[swift wharf]

i can't really make a connection here

nor here

[undone holly]

I suppose stardust kinda fits with bees

[swift wharf]

or ANY of the weapons for that matter

[wide river]

Ah, but you see, the power of STARS makes bees and pumpkins stronger!

[undone holly]

despite being magic damage

[swift wharf]

it's so disconnected you might as well make those weapons use their own fragment

nebula has that too

i can't think of anything for those

[buoyant idol]

I’d argue all post providence fragment be replaced with galactica

[golden sonnet]

Hear me out, grand guardian nebula because it's purple

[swift wharf]

true actually

[buoyant idol]

:mindexplode:

Really?!

[swift wharf]

or luminite

less hassle

[buoyant idol]

Just add luminite to galactica

s/

[swift wharf]

like the good old days

welp all stardust and nebula recipes i've mentioned are pre provi

same with vortex

[buoyant idol]

True, but helium is post provi

[swift wharf]

but theming 💅

so yea no issue no need to change the recipe of two weapons

[buoyant idol]

Fair point

[glass arch]

didnt swarmer use vortex frags at some point

[worldly basalt]

well for the harvester and bee gun, you're kind of """summoning""" the extra projectiles and they move on their own?

[swift wharf]

it did iirc

[worldly basalt]

it's a stretch but what else could it be

wait did they change that recently?

[swift wharf]

no clue

[worldly basalt]

they should change it back, vortex already had kind of a bug theme

[swift wharf]

the only stardust recipe that makes sense is luminous striker imo because stars(?)

that is true

• gun

so you have insect ranged material

for insect magic gun

[buoyant idol]

For rouge weapons it makes sense but otherwise other ones have theming issues

[glass arch]

musta been, because on 1.5's last release i swear it uses vortex and not stardust

[swift wharf]

yeah meld needs more recipes

[buoyant idol]

Same, I think it was vortex

[swift wharf]

it's only used for meld weapons

[buoyant idol]

Why do other classes get meld items anyways

[glass arch]

meld is weird theming wise

[swift wharf]

huh

[swift wharf]

because meld was all class

why were they kept? beats me

[buoyant idol]

I doubt anybody seriously uses the tome of fates

[worldly basalt]

i tried using the claymore once but it kinda sucked so i went back to the other stuff

[swift wharf]

after august 2020, swarmer recipe changed

from vortex to stardust

[worldly basalt]

also in 1.4.4 are they going to add those fancy swing effect to some of the swords?

[glass arch]

aint claymore pretty damn good

[swift wharf]

btw friendly reminder that

[worldly basalt]

it wasn't doing very well against the pillars

[swift wharf]

tome of fates is pretty much INSTANTLY upgraded into augur of elements

[wide river]

I think it is against Moon Lord, not sure about other things

[fervent orbit]

single target weapon does bad on swarm enemy event

‼️

[bright crag]

The intention is for Meld to be rogue's fragment

[worldly basalt]

wasn't a very good first impression

[bright crag]

It has weapons for other classes because uhhh

"They're cool"

[wide river]

Relic of old theming, I suppose

[glass arch]

old calamity or w/e

[bright crag]

There is an idea for what to do with Meld

[swift wharf]

I am aware of it

That's what I meant with my message

[bright crag]

I see

[swift wharf]

they asked why meld had other class weapons, and it is because meld was all class

[wide river]

Killing the weapons or moving them to a different obtainment method would be good
Or just turn them all to Rogue weapons

[glass arch]

when was the mass recipe change changelog

[swift wharf]

wrong answer

[glass arch]

because it was in there

[swift wharf]

no clue

[wide river]

No, that wouldn't be a good idea in any shape or form

[bright crag]

Ah yes, rogue flamethrower

[fervent orbit]

stip do u know why some devs are against removing meld construct

[swift wharf]

turn entropic claymore into an axe, tome of fates into a hammer and the flamethrower into an axe

wait no

actually remove the tome

[bright crag]

I don't really
They probably have some idea for it

[glass arch]

sometime around december 2022

[buoyant idol]

Didn’t even name the flamethrower, that’s just proof it should be removed

[swift wharf]

ok so turn the claymore into an axe and the tome into a hammer

ez

[fervent orbit]

no scythe or grenade

[swift wharf]

magic tome

😈

[glass arch]

gods bellows is an item

[swift wharf]

magic tool tome*

[fervent orbit]

a flamethrower that was worse than eld melter at one point

wouldnt be surprised if it still is

[glass arch]

thats just eldmelter being fuckin idiotic

[fervent orbit]

like eld melter still gets 1 minute on golem

its not dead at all

[swift wharf]

eld melter was better than elemental eruption

[glass arch]

eldmelter moment

[fervent orbit]

[glass arch]

its also post golem now so

[swift wharf]

is it?

[glass arch]

ye

[swift wharf]

huh

how

[glass arch]

somewhere in #1042197406776827914 there was a linked forum post where leinfors confirmed the moons are intended post golem

[swift wharf]

can you summon them before golem

[fervent orbit]

yes

[glass arch]

yes

[undone cedar]

Yes

[swift wharf]

bruh

i thought you meant

[fervent orbit]

and they arent hard to do pre golem

[swift wharf]

they made it post golem ONLY

[undone cedar]

I always fight them pre golem

[swift wharf]

everyone knows that moons are considered post golem

[glass arch]

they're intended post golem so they will be balanced for post golem now

[fervent orbit]

i dont know a single person who has done them post golem

[undone cedar]

Cause like post golem has plenty of events and stuff while theres not a lot between plantera and golem

It just makes more sense

[glass arch]

includes the enemies too methinks but not sure

[swift wharf]

this implies that being post golem is a significant upgrade

[glass arch]

#1042197406776827914 message ah heres the thing

[undone cedar]

True remove golem imo

[swift wharf]

true actually

like if it's meant to be post golem then make it post golem worthy lmao....

[undone cedar]

That’s my balance suggestion

[glass arch]

golem should DIE we should KILL it

[swift wharf]

vanilla terraria moment

[buoyant idol]

Just make golem the hardest boss

[glass arch]

sand undertable

[buoyant idol]

Add a bullet rain phase like Scal when the head breaks off

[undone cedar]

And then remove it

[glass arch]

golem will always become sand undertable there is no escaping it

[fervent orbit]

when did golem = sans even come from,

[buoyant idol]

Golem removes I frames now

[glass arch]

emode i think

[worldly basalt]

but why did they choose to make golem sans

[glass arch]

i got no clue how it originated

[swift wharf]

balance golem

[worldly basalt]

because he's the easiest enemy 👍

[glass arch]

make golem not a joke

[swift wharf]

then remoe it exactly

[fervent orbit]

just rework all of golem smh

[swift wharf]

completely rework the boss
change plans
remove it

[glass arch]

rework via removal tbh

[bright crag]

Make Golem a worm boss

[swift wharf]

calamity style

[glass arch]

BASED

[swift wharf]

@ spectre rifle

[worldly basalt]

make worms golem bosses*

[buoyant idol]

Honestly if the fireballs didn’t despawn it would be a really cool boss

[glass arch]

GOD NO

[worldly basalt]

pinball

[glass arch]

the fireballs despawning is what makes the fight bearable

[swift wharf]

I mean you could cap the fireballs

[glass arch]

that thing spits out so fucking many fireballs

[worldly basalt]

maybe a limited amount of fireballs, like 5 or so, and they just keep bouncing

yea that

[buoyant idol]

Remove the stomp balls, just make it harder the longer it goes

[worldly basalt]

maybe get faster as the battle goes on

[swift wharf]

make golem sans

[fervent orbit]

you know

[swift wharf]

[fervent orbit]

if i knew how to do boss ai

i could do this

[swift wharf]

make golem the temple

[fervent orbit]

but i dont know boss ai so im safe

[swift wharf]

you fight the arena

[drowsy plank]

oh we talking about how awful golem is

[swift wharf]

[buoyant idol]

Golem uses the traps in the area

[swift wharf]

yeah get on the queue

[buoyant idol]

Live panopticon reaction

[glass arch]

if i knew how to code i would make something thats probably worse than anything in vanilla but i cant so yall are safe
for now

[drowsy plank]

i tried to suggest moving the cultist spawning flag to calclone

[buoyant idol]

Just replace golem with panopticon

[swift wharf]

that'd be POGGERS but

il editing

or something

[drowsy plank]

😔

[swift wharf]

💥

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[glass arch]

il editing my beloathed

[swift wharf]

or you could just create your own cultists

[worldly basalt]

solar cultists real

[swift wharf]

but uhhh scuffed fix

[drowsy plank]

i mean we did that for enchanted nightcrawlers

[swift wharf]

guh

[glass arch]

(i have no idea how to do it i just remember seeing someone using 30+ lines of code to change one thing)

[swift wharf]

assembly type code

[drowsy plank]

i will never get over astral enchanted nightcrawlers they are so fucking funny

[undone cedar]

il editing is based

[swift wharf]

noway

[buoyant idol]

(whats il editing)

[drowsy plank]

in line editing

[buoyant idol]

Ok

[swift wharf]

you're telling me that this is not the vanilla one

[drowsy plank]

i think we fixed it in 1.4.4 but

[swift wharf]

ignore the underlined twinkler

[drowsy plank]

for several updates

no it wasnt

[swift wharf]

NAH

I DONT BELIEVE YOU

[drowsy plank]

it was a custom identical mob

im not fucking kidding this was real

[serene tendon]

It's true

[drowsy plank]

ping a dev

[swift wharf]

this can't be real

this can't be real this can't be real

[drowsy plank]

AHAHAHAHAHA

[buoyant idol]

Amazing

[swift wharf]

[drowsy plank]

this is why we should add solar cultists post-calclone

[serene tendon]

At least it is getting removed

[swift wharf]

this is peak coding

[serene tendon]

apparently

[buoyant idol]

Solartic cultist when

[swift wharf]

tbf it's the game's fault and not the mod's but this is peak coding

[glass arch]

we already got the crags cultists or w/e they're called, just make those the dungeon cultists

[swift wharf]

they spawn in dungeon

[glass arch]

cultist assassins

[swift wharf]

(I think)

((Unless they changed it))

[glass arch]

those fuckers

[drowsy plank]

lmfao spawning LC in brim crag

[worldly basalt]

would they summon LC as normal or a reskin

[drowsy plank]

god wait

[glass arch]

reskin obviously

[wide river]

I think Cei confirmed that they're getting a rename, let me look for a source on that

[drowsy plank]

reskinned LC spawning in brim crag near brimmy altar (future spawning method)

[swift wharf]

rename them to iluminados cultist

[wide river]

Yea, here we go
#lore-discussion message

[bright crag]

They are

To a cool name that doesn't include the word "Cultist"

[wide river]

Ah, sweet
The "Cultist" part made them seem connected to the Cultists at the Dungeon, which I assume wasn't the intention

[fervent orbit]

devotee

[novel belfry]

Suggestion idea (incomplete)
Rework the Helstorm

The Hellborn started its existence as a RIV of the Helstorm, and yet is far more well known than the latter, all thanks to the fact that its form of contact damage has the extra variable that is a 10-second boost to its stats. The Hellborn, a Brimstone Elemental drop, quite frankly overshadows the Post-Golem gun it is derived from.
Thus, I suggest that the Helstorm be reworked, perhaps having a similar stat boost to the Hellborn, although this isn't required.

[golden tulip]

excessive use of former and latter made this a confusing read

[cobalt pewter]

just give initials if they're gonna be referred to often

HS and HB

[golden tulip]

its still a weird read

on phone at least

theres like 12 lines but 2 sentences

[toxic basalt]

at this point I'm tempted to make a Moonlord balance suggestion because I'm fucking sick of getting hit by off-screen projectiles

[kindred skiff]

Isn’t that just vanilla

[toxic basalt]

yes, which calamity didn't change much on except changing how the eyes act

the fact that he's also a bit faster on higher difficulties just encourages you to move around and away more

only to get punished for doing so with a billion off-screen projectiles flying at you

I just don't know how to word this better in a suggestion other than "Make Moonlord's Projectiles less unfair to dodge when coming from off-screen"

[bright crag]

What exactly hits you from offscreen

Only thing I've noticed as genuinely unpredictable are the line of eyes, and even then you can make an educated guess

[random pasture]

Also ML is almost completely negated by running in a straight line anyway when the spam actually happens

[toxic basalt]

Phantasmal Spheres and Phantasmal Eyes

the bolts are really easy to avoid

plus the Spheres and Eyes can often overlap with the deathray, making that even harder to avoid

hold on

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513025154805268521/1096886561422975057/Offscreen_Projectiles_strike_again.mp4 here

[bright crag]

That's because you're circling Moon Lord

[drowsy plank]

idk just seems like bad eye management
i mean yeah it sucks but you also put the eyes off screen and then they shot at you offscreen like idk what you think is gonna happen

[bright crag]

Of course the attacks will overlap, you keep them in the same place :p

[wide river]

Circling Moon Lord isn't a good idea
Just run in one direction for a while, then when the big laser happens you flip directions
That's how you do it, at least that's how I do it, anyway

[toxic basalt]

isn't that the whole strat with moonlord when dealing with his deathray????

[bright crag]

Not really

Keep running horizontally and adjust to dodge attacks
When the laser comes, switch side

[wide river]

^

[toxic basalt]

also shroomed seems to just break him

he goes completely invisible on and off

ok another thing

@bright crag What about the fact that the Phantasmal Spheres will always overlap with the phantasmal deathray?

[bright crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N33ExSMU2ZM

My strats here

[toxic basalt]

ok now what about the shroomed issue

both him and his projectiles constantly keep going invisible

[bright crag]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic basalt]

time to reset my wingtime- nevermind

shit feels like it falls apart when the eyes are all out

[small timber]

You also dont have to switch side

Outside of ftw bullshit, once you kill the top eyes it reduce the degree that the deathray rotates

[toxic basalt]

I know that

but then the eyes themselves become an annoyance when they can do that

[dense locust]

wdym "ftw bullshit"

[toxic basalt]

in this case, staying on one side for too long subjects me to phantasmal eye spam

[small timber]

For that you circle in a larger circle

[frosty trellis]

Ftw moonlord deathray is 420° instead of the at most 240ish on any other difficultly

[dense locust]

wait wtf

is that a cal thing or a vanilla thing

[frosty trellis]

And is faster than Thanatos trying to catch up to you doing T Hanos Beam

Cal

[toxic basalt]

FTW basically makes all his attacks super fast, and the Deathray rotation super fast as well, and retains this speed even when the eyes are out, moves even faster and all his phantasmal bolt shots have prediction

[small timber]

Which is the main thing you do after destroying top eye, and before destroying top eye you also dont have true eye to deal with and ML's attack are more visible

[frosty trellis]

Master-Death FTW moonlord is very bs

Buts it's FTw

So it's designed to be BS

[small timber]

Ftw moonlord is basically malice, but on crack

[toxic basalt]

the wiki pretty much has barely any of this information

[frosty trellis]

Pretty much

[toxic basalt]

the wiki only says that he has predictive AI on the phantasmal bolts

[frosty trellis]

Xpc would know the ins and outs of mdftw ML since he did it in his creative shock pt that went from challenging to actual hell real quick

[small timber]

Nah I just cheese the shit out of it

Because I know 100% I have no way to get enough mobilty to dodge normally

[frosty trellis]

Fair

But you have to know the ins and outs to cheese it

And iirc it still took a long time even with the cheese

[small timber]

I mean

My adrenaline is dealing 5% hp damage

[blazing kettle]

what

[small timber]

Which is definitely not the case for like, everyone else; bosses are usually not that tanky

[frosty trellis]

Damn that's 2.5x better than t.bsky on Exos

[blazing kettle]

???

[dense locust]

wait wtf

[toxic basalt]

Moonlord has like, over 500K HP total on MDFTW

[frosty trellis]

T.Bsky = Tainted Burning Sky

On Expert-Revengence adren does 2% to Ares and a little less to Thanatos

[small timber]

No the context you are missing is my gear sucks

[dense locust]

which one's tainted again

[frosty trellis]

I know your gear sucked
I watched the vid

[small timber]

Turn true melee one

[dense locust]

ah

[small timber]

(I know yeah, was replying to others)

[frosty trellis]

Yeah turns projectile melee weapons into t.meleee

Fair

[frosty trellis]

Problem is
That it is Still bugged
So it doesn't scale with damage whatsoever

So I could have a full on tank build or the most cmt-level glass cannon build ever and still deal 2% with adren

So it just sucks

[fervent orbit]

thats a damn big circle boi

even i dont circle ml that much

[toxic basalt]

granted I am doing somewhat of a challenge and I basically panic circled

the challenge being to nohit a boss with all your weapons, armor and accessories starting with the same letter

bonus points if the starting letter is also of the boss you're doing

[cobalt pewter]

it's really hard to make ML fun

dude is just conceptually so

what

at this point making the mf stationary is probably good

[drowsy plank]

honestly i feel like ML in cal is fine??

ive literally never had issues with him

[glass arch]

ml in cal isnt bad nah

[wide river]

I've not had many issues either, it's generally pretty tame even in Revengeance

[glass arch]

theres some sort of pattern to the fight, not sure what the pattern is as i havent nohit it for a while but i do remember there being one

[drowsy plank]

order is on the wiki i think

[cobalt pewter]

ML is workable in Cal, unlike vanilla

[drowsy plank]

i have to be honest the fact that cal gives ML an order but takes away EoL's attack order is

[cobalt pewter]

that said it's still very much vanilla in concept

and it's just how cal bosses be

[drowsy plank]

well i think there's some kind of irony there

[cobalt pewter]

I haven't found an iteration of ML that's fun

something that plays with its existing concepts and spins it for the better

idk

for the most part cal ML behaves roughly similarly to vanilla ML if not for the lack of empty crevices

just a lot more organized

diagonal sweeping deathray is certainly a fairly unique concept coming from vanilla (the only other boss to ever use deathray is Martian Saucer and that's horizontal sweeping), but the rest of his kit is just kinda guh?

[small timber]

(the nerf ML one is also largely based on the fact that each phantasmal eyes dealing equivalent of 9999999 damage instead of like 20)

@buoyant atlas all bosses that have damage reduction mechanic like this are largely balanced around the fact that they have a damage reduction mechanic like this; in this case because providence have large hitbox being able to damage her during cocoon will just mean they have to make her HP like 1 million which will end up making the fight last the same time anyway with the exception that it screw over low damage build even more because her fight inherently already have a timelimit (of the daytime)

and also the suggestion will not make her "spammed any less" because her attack pattern/cycle is fixed, she will just do the same amount of cocoon phase and their related attacks (star, spear)

[buoyant atlas]

not mine

[drowsy plank]

weird suggestions

[drowsy plank]

wdym you made that suggestion

[north oracle]

what is that meant to mean

[buoyant atlas]

i ment not my providence

[drowsy plank]

well uh

you're wrong

[north oracle]

[peak mulch]

What do u think about changing exomechs background

[small timber]

it is already work in progress

[peak mulch]

Lighting bolts are he same ad in virtex pillar

[drowsy plank]

why

who cares lmfao

[small timber]

that lightning background is not going to stay forever

[drowsy plank]

cool

[peak mulch]

Yipppe

[small timber]

but I also dont think it will instantly change because someone suggested it

[north oracle]

i never realised it was the same as vortex

[drowsy plank]

same lmao

[fervent orbit]

shows how little people care about the pillars lmao

[north oracle]

truuue

[peak mulch]

I realised it while beating philars 3days ago

[fervent orbit]

make pillars an actual boss

[north oracle]

god no

[fervent orbit]

why not

[peak mulch]

Make pillars jave boss efects while being close

[north oracle]

just make them take about 10 times less time

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[fervent orbit]

make the pillars an event boss fight (something betsy will never be)

[drowsy plank]

pillars with adren is such a funny fucking concept

just awful idea

lmfao

[north oracle]

oh god

you just hang out near the pillars with a zen potion

and start fights with adren

[peak mulch]

Make moon lord spawnable while its lunar event

[fervent orbit]

[insert rovers message of people not actually wanting to play terraria]

[north oracle]

why would i want to play this game

[drowsy plank]

the pillars would also proc boss zen

[north oracle]

i just like the funn bosses

[fervent orbit]

ok but theyre an actual boss now

[drowsy plank]

that's a vanilla hard coded thing

[fervent orbit]

they send swarms of enemies with meaning

not random spam

[drowsy plank]

solar pillar fucking charging at me like eoc

[fervent orbit]

i mean with those centipede looking ass things always chasing you down if you DARE jump

[drowsy plank]

so true but imagine that but the pillar itself also does that

[buoyant atlas]

mine does not do that instead of a fixed cycle its glitched or broken because every time i see she finished she then flys away 3 seconds later goes into her coccon again and ive played this a long time ago i know consistent patterns this is not a fixed pattern its a broken version.

plus i understand the dps resistance and some bosses understandable lots of hp and resistance good challenge but all and all providence needs hers lowered just a little or make it into a phase transitions attack like SC or CC

[drowsy plank]

she really doesnt need it lowered you just need to fix your game lmao

we dont need to change the boss because you have a bug happening

[small timber]

then it goes to #1052323733961977947 yes

[drowsy plank]

i was wondering if you were just fighting moonlight provi but even she doesn't "spam" it like yeah she uses it a bit more than average but all her attacks are still on a patterned loop so

[small timber]

either that or you are playing FTW

[drowsy plank]

idk what's going on with you

[buoyant atlas]

mod stfu id rather speak to a developer than a corrupt bully

[small timber]

yes or night providence, but I dont think night providence goes into cocoon more often

[drowsy plank]

[fervent orbit]

bro wats ur problem

[drowsy plank]

how am i even bullying you're asking us to remove an integral part of one of the most iconic bosses because you have a bug

just fix the bug

funny but prolly a #lore-discussion thing big

[peak mulch]

Soeey wrong chamnel

[buoyant atlas]

do you think ive not already tried that myself..

[drowsy plank]

i dont

because otherwise you'd be talking about which mod conflict is causing this

[toxic basalt]

if I recall, Death makes her do her cocoon phases much more often

[drowsy plank]

sure but it's not "spammed"

[toxic basalt]

but even then it's not really "spammed"

yeah

[drowsy plank]

i fought moonlight provi just last week i know this boss like the back of my hand

[fervent orbit]

"In Death Mode
Providence has a new, different attack pattern which is significantly more difficult and harder to predict."

correct

[buoyant atlas]

iconic yeah a copy or radiance more like

[drowsy plank]

...

[fervent orbit]

[drowsy plank]

providence came first bro

[fervent orbit]

literally completely different boss

[drowsy plank]

also true

[fervent orbit]

^^

[toxic basalt]

EoL losing her attack pattern is uh...not that great

[drowsy plank]

it is not!

[fervent orbit]

oh no they both are light and are evil despite being shown as the light

[drowsy plank]

honestly considering making a suggestion about that

[grim tusk]

@peak mulch @buoyant atlas lack of reasoning on both of your suggs

[toxic basalt]

it makes her easily capable of doing multiple everlasting rainbows in a row

[fervent orbit]

this must mean theyre the exact same boss

[small timber]

EoL losing attack pattern is whatever

[drowsy plank]

eh

idk about that

[small timber]

the only 1 I am most annoyed about is the phase 2 that one "spew star out" attacks where it is just 100% space gating

[drowsy plank]

she has some really fucky combos in death now because of it

[buoyant atlas]

jeez finally a develpor comes forth

[small timber]

because you just 100% get hit by that if you are close, and do nothing if you are far

[toxic basalt]

She should of at least been limited to only having one everlasting rainbow attack existing at a time

[small timber]

everlasting rainbow is whatever, you dodge it by going to the centre instead of run away

[fervent orbit]

jeez finally you can stop being an idiot

[small timber]

the charge though yeah that one should be capped in how many chain it can do in a row

[buoyant atlas]

says the guy named noob

[drowsy plank]

ayo noob chill, tbf zen is the one that started all this shit but still

i can just warn them if they keep up the belligerent behavior

[toxic basalt]

it's kind of this case of "both chill out"

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[fervent orbit]

oh no a name i picked myself out of irony being used against me, what a disaster

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[dense ferry]

Huh?

[fervent orbit]

wat???

[drowsy plank]

bro??

[toxic basalt]

ok that's um

a bit extreme

[grim tusk]

I’d warn

[fervent orbit]

"im not famous, such a disaster"

[drowsy plank]

ok no im deleting that

[fervent orbit]

i aint faimous either

ive gotten suggestions in

[buoyant atlas]

we are all just rubbish and our opinion don't matter

[grim tusk]

Ok nihilist

[drowsy plank]

im like. im gonna call that suicide baiting or something, and i gotta say @buoyant atlas do NOT do that please

[buoyant atlas]

im serious

[drowsy plank]

Yes I know that is the problem

[fervent orbit]

is this even

nihilism

this is more like

self esteem issues

[drowsy plank]

This is a server about discussing a Terraria mod, not for you to publicly vent about your issues. Please keep those sorts of things to yourself.

[small timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgeytxeyoJE&list=PLK5FjDQBWwNtGVb_EGdakpa76S_1D_HvQ&index=5 2:12 and 2:34 one is the one I have problem with mainly because it is 100% dodged by just "be far away"

[dense ferry]

Damn this thing has been a bit more heated than I anticipated

[kindred skiff]

Yo tf happened

[small timber]

the rest you have a consistent way to put yourself in a position where you can properly dodge the next attack
(I still get hit but I also literally cant move down)

[kindred skiff]

Who’s getting political

Or something

[fervent orbit]

holy shit xpc has yt channel confirmed

uhh

wat kind of a name is that

[kindred skiff]

Also prov has DR in the cocoon phase for a reason

[drowsy plank]

you weren't subbed to xpc already? lmao

[small timber]

if you think I can create creative name you are wrong
my discord name is literally typing random shit on keyboard

[buoyant atlas]

tell me when has there ever been a goo sugesttion ever brought on hm

good*

[drowsy plank]

uh

[fervent orbit]

ive never seen xpc post a yt video

[dense ferry]

A lot

[drowsy plank]

every week

[dense ferry]

Like

[kindred skiff]

There’s a few every day

[dense ferry]

A lot

[buoyant atlas]

none thats how many

[drowsy plank]

that's like the point of this channel

[buoyant atlas]

list 1 good one

[drowsy plank]

@grave zinc

[kindred skiff]

Yours is among the worst because it’s gotten the exclamation point

[drowsy plank]

look at message history

[dense ferry]

If I could check every single implemented sugg I would

Actually I think I can

[buoyant atlas]

we are all evil we just dont know it

[kindred skiff]

One for roxcalibur to have a designated shrine

[drowsy plank]

"List every good suggestion"
"okay bet"

[kindred skiff]

Ok mr emo

[grim tusk]

Not even emo

Just plain edgy

[kindred skiff]

Edgy?

Yeah

[fervent orbit]

this guy is just

[drowsy plank]

@buoyant atlas I'm giving you a chance to cut it out, please stop being disruptive with this weird behavior.

[kindred skiff]

Ok edgelord

[fervent orbit]

"im not popular and somehow that makes me bad"

[kindred skiff]

Bro gonna rant about this on his twitter

[dense ferry]

Not really every implemented sugg, but all that have been deemed good for that

[small timber]

2:12 one have a phase 1 variant but that one spew stars to the top first before homing, instead of a 360 degree which means you cant stay below her (it is hard to stay above her anyway without fly god as she keep positioning herself above you)

2:34 one is just a super unnecessary attack that only punish someone who play close range instead of running away

[dense ferry]

And that's after the bot was added

[kindred skiff]

When were they added

[dense ferry]

Also you all chill on the insults, we don't need to bash down on anyone

[grim tusk]

Like a year ago

[buoyant atlas]

i honestly thought this was the best mod but now im seeing the worst of it

[dense ferry]

Sure

[kindred skiff]

Yeah calamity mod has a toxic community

You should really leave

[dense ferry]

You are not helping either

[buoyant atlas]

life or just irl

[grim tusk]

One often just gets responded to how they speak

[buoyant atlas]

your one to talk

[drowsy plank]

Okay, I'm warning for this, I already asked you to stop being disruptive and you refuse to.

[fervent orbit]

okk.....

[random pasture]

Edgy 13 year old who just discovered r/nihilism

[fervent orbit]

nvm hes just gonna continue

[kindred skiff]

Yes

[buoyant atlas]

13 really

[kindred skiff]

Too high?

[golden sonnet]

Repeatedly calling them edgy accomplishes nothing, just let the mods deal with it

[buoyant atlas]

23

[kindred skiff]

Alright

[dense ferry]

Yeah, please, you three, shut up

[hybrid steeple]

what the fuck happened here

[drowsy plank]

nothing

we're moving on

[fervent orbit]

thats cool, youve been told to shut it already

[drowsy plank]

anyway back to EoL

[buoyant atlas]

so have you

[drowsy plank]

Zen

[royal tapir]

Hey guys

[drowsy plank]

Noob

[kindred skiff]

I love tsunami

[fervent orbit]

i cant tell if thats monsoon or alluvion

[drowsy plank]

that's monsoon

[dense ferry]

Not Atlantis

Bad

[royal tapir]

So real

[kindred skiff]

Fucj

[fervent orbit]

i might just leave and do some summoner meta defining tests or smthn

idk

[drowsy plank]

you can tell it isn't alluvion because it doesnt have a billion funny parts sticking out

[fervent orbit]

maybe ill stick for a bit actually

[drowsy plank]

okay but anyway back to EoL not having a pattern

[grim tusk]

EoL has a different one

[kindred skiff]

Wait she doesn’t

[small timber]

uhhh, tldr I dont really have problem with it

other than these 2 attacks

[drowsy plank]

esp in death mode with her dashes having trailing sparks, it leads to some really weird patterns

[royal tapir]

EoL's pattern is "random"

[fervent orbit]

did you know u can ram eols dash and reach to her little rest after her dash much quicker

[royal tapir]

I mean conceptually it is random, but there does seem to be some rules it likes to follow

[drowsy plank]

wait she still has a pattern? thing must be the longest pattern in existence because when i was testing for establishing AI on the wiki, i never saw her consistently repeating any of her attacks

[kindred skiff]

What about the bolts she spawns

[random pasture]

I thought she was invincible during the dash

[fervent orbit]

they dont deal dmg until a bit after theyve spawned iirc

[kindred skiff]

Oh guess I’ve been doing it wrong

[dense ferry]

Ok I need to eat Jesus Christ

[royal tapir]

For example dashes are the only attack she can do twice in a row (not sure why but that's a separate thing)

[kindred skiff]

Eat macaroni

[fervent orbit]

ur going to eat christ????

[royal tapir]

Also in phase 2, she always follows up the stationary spawning bolts around her attack with either the normal bolts attack or lances

[fervent orbit]

commas are important people

FUCK

[kindred skiff]

Dog,

[fervent orbit]

wot

[kindred skiff]

If you know you know

[fervent orbit]

no i do not

[golden sonnet]

Let's eat grandma.

[dense locust]

good idea

[kindred skiff]

Let’s, eat grandma*

[fervent orbit]

we need to cook jesse

[dense ferry]

Eggs eaten

Anyways

[fervent orbit]

uhm

did you just eat

in 3 minutes?

[dense ferry]

I ate 2 eggs

[fervent orbit]

still????

[random pasture]

I like how EOL change logs are like

[fervent orbit]

did you eat them raw or wat???

[kindred skiff]

I can shove a whole fried egg in my mouth

[dense ferry]

I went to my mom and asked for something to eat

[golden sonnet]

Egg's are drinkable

[random pasture]

In Revengeance Mode
Empress's movement is far more erratic, which can make her harder to hit while moving.
Empress no longer follows a pattern with her attacks.
Empress now releases a stream of Prismatic Bolts behind herself when dashing, and dashes alongside the player instead of at them.
All of Empress's Ethereal Lance attacks are more spread out.
Empress gains a significant boost to defense while using Sun Dance.
During Phase 2, Empress gains a rare unique set of Ethereal Lance attacks, hereby referred to as Ethereal Lance V3, based on the Classic Mode exclusive version of Ethereal Lance V2.
She fires 3, occasionally 4, walls of lances, which can come in one of four directions; left, right, angled left, or angled right. They are similar to the laser walls made by The Devourer of Gods due to covering most of the screen, but unlike The Devourer's, only come from a single direction at a time.
Phase 2's Eternal Rainbow spreads out in a more ovular shape rather than the typical circular one, which may catch players off guard.
Etheral Lance V2 can last anywhere from 2 waves to 6.
Phase 2's Sun Dance spawns 2 spreads of projectiles instead of 3.
All attacks have more projectiles and last longer.
Empress becomes more erratic in both movement and attacks as HP decreases; typically reducing attack duration (Ethereal Lance V3 goes from 4 walls to 2), but increasing the overlap time.
Empress no longer deals contact damage during the fight, except while dashing.
Empress deals less damage while enraged.
In Death Mode
Switches between attacks faster, sometimes allowing them to overlap.
Increased movement speed.
Ethereal Lance V3 is far more common, and more commonly has 4 walls.
Prismatic Shards V2 spreads out much quicker and further.
Empress's "charging" animation, which has no attack associated with it, is far less common.
All attacks have more projectiles and last longer than in Revengeance

[dense ferry]

She had a few boiled eggs there and I ate 2

[fervent orbit]

thanks

[kindred skiff]

Huh

[fervent orbit]

OIH BOILED

[kindred skiff]

I ain’t reading allat

[fervent orbit]

that makes much more sense

you had me worried on how you ate 2 whole ass eggs in 3 minutes

[kindred skiff]

Do you like scrambled, fried, or boiled best

Eggs

[random pasture]

Fried is pretty cool

[drowsy plank]

@buoyant atlas that is worse, and has even less reasoning, and also has reasoning based on a bug, as well as subjective opinions about difficulty

[fervent orbit]

boiled = scrambled > sunny sideup

[random pasture]

We play smash every now and again

[kindred skiff]

What’s sunny side up

[dense ferry]

@buoyant atlas you need actual reasoning for the nerf, if you think the Boss is unfair then explain why you think that, take for example the suggestion above on Plaguebringer's Missiles

[random pasture]

When you dont flip an egg

[kindred skiff]

Personally I’d say I like boiled the least

[fervent orbit]

fried egg pretty much

[random pasture]

You let it fry on one side then take it off the heat

[kindred skiff]

Fried is yummy

[random pasture]

You keep the yolk uncooked

[drowsy plank]

ayo the egg talk can prolly go to #general-talk btw yall

[kindred skiff]

Ew

Ok

[drowsy plank]

thxxxxxxxx

[dense ferry]

Yeah talk about the eggs in general please

[fervent orbit]

ok but i dont know anyone in gen talk and that scares me

[drowsy plank]

cry about it

[kindred skiff]

You know me

[dense locust]

I look away for 5 minutes.

[fervent orbit]

i wish i didnt

[kindred skiff]

[undone cedar]

Suggestions…

[fervent orbit]

right suggestions

[kindred skiff]

Suggestion

[dense ferry]

Everytime I see this emote I just think of the fucking

Voice actress for Marisa

[royal tapir]

(she thinks of the fucking)

[kindred skiff]

When I see that emote I think of that Touhou thing

[dense ferry]

I can perfectly replicate that "eto nu kayo" or whatever

[kindred skiff]

Where the girl in the maid outfit turns around crying

[fervent orbit]

but why

[dense ferry]

Well

[buoyant atlas]

BECAUSE SHE KEEPS GLITCHING IN HER COCOON STATE WAY TOO OFTEN 3 SECONDS AT A TIME AFTER SHE LEAVES SHE INSTANTLY GOES BACK IN AND IVE TRIED EVERTHING TO FIX IT MYSELF IF I WAS LYING I WOULDNT BE HERE NOW WOULD I!!

[fervent orbit]

bug reports dont come here

[kindred skiff]

It doesn’t happen to everyone

[drowsy plank]

have you gone through and disabled every mod except calamity

[kindred skiff]

It’s just happening to you

[fervent orbit]

and bugs dont come into suggestions

[dense ferry]

Then go to #1052323733961977947

They will either fix it in the next update or provide you a way of fixing it

[golden sonnet]

feedback on wordng and stuff would be appreciated

trying to get these killed again

[drowsy plank]

tbh it's prolly already planned so it's prolly gonna get locked, but it looks fine for now

[golden sonnet]

If I can get confirmation on it being planned then I will be more than happy and can just delete the post before it gets to voting

[drowsy plank]

you did say "Knight" instead of "night" tho btw

[golden sonnet]

true, thanks for pointing it out

[north oracle]

kill all the crimson weapons

[fervent orbit]

kill all the night weapons

KILL ALL THE TERRA WEAPONS

[swift wharf]

😈 yes

[fervent orbit]

KILL EVERY WEAPON

[north oracle]

and the elementaal weapons

[fervent orbit]

please just give weapons their own identities

[swift wharf]

never

thhey must all shoot green projectiles

[fervent orbit]

i get it there was one super cool sword that is crafted from certain other swords

but like

you dont need to make one for every class

[north oracle]

but now we get one pretty cool mage weapon, one really mid summoner weapon, no ranger weapon for some reason, and no rogue weapon either

[fervent orbit]

wait wot

wdym no ranger weapon?

or rogue

[north oracle]

there isn't a night's bow?

or did you mean terra

[fervent orbit]

cosmic bolter

also there is terra flameburster (got no nights version tho)

[north oracle]

what even is that

[fervent orbit]

[[Cosmic Bolter]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Cosmic_Bolter

[fervent orbit]

like

[north oracle]

yeah, flameburster exists for terra

[fervent orbit]

an ok bow on golem

[north oracle]

that thing really is just a terra variant without terra in the name

[fervent orbit]

yes

[north oracle]

speaking of which

lunarian

is the night's equivalent

[fervent orbit]

and isnt fucking green

[north oracle]

tru

[fervent orbit]

yea i was going to say the lunarian bow but i forgor wat it was called

[north oracle]

rogue still gets excluded

[lucid flare]

true!!

funny how calamity decided to make a night's edge class variant for all the classes...except the one they added

[drowsy plank]

erm rogue doesnt need any more weapons they have plenty (do not look at post-ML tier)

[lucid flare]

speaking of.....

why does night's gaze use daybreak. when Shard of Antumbra is right there

[wide river]

If I had a nickel for every time someone questioned that, I'd have like
300 nickels

It would just be better with Shard of Antumbra, though

Weapons for a specific class shouldn't be used to make a weapon for a different class under normal circumstances
Donor items do that a lot, but we can't really do much about those

[lucid flare]

probably enough money to bribe a dev into making that change

[ripe owl]

60 dollars at least

[undone holly]

boomerangs go brr for the first part

[undone cedar]

[north oracle]

what was deleted lmao

[wide river]

A message
I can't be more helpful than that

[undone cedar]

Yea

[north oracle]

[grim tusk]

Something to fix in the port

[novel belfry]

YES

FINALLY, removing a melee weapon as a crafting material for a rogue weapon

[north oracle]

So I may not have known that this weapon existed, but i agree with the suggestion

[grave zinc]

@ashen warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add "Official" to the name of Music Mod]

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@random talon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Auric Bricks or similar]

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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Update the Void Shrine Chest's Contents]

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[**Rename Elemental Gauntlet and Elemental Quiver **]

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[Move Nadir to Auric Tier]

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[Stop profaned enemies from spawning in the brimstone crag]

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[ripe owl]

A huge W for those suggestions

[small timber]

@ripe owl probably a good idea to list how many they currently take
too much, too little

[ripe owl]

Done

[keen zodiac]

wait only one

wtf

[ripe owl]

Yes

[keen zodiac]

how

[cobalt pewter]

here's the kicker

[ripe owl]

Go ahead

[cobalt pewter]

are they easy to get in 100s

(I was just wondering)

[ripe owl]

Every other Rust and Dust block is also easy to get in 100s

[cobalt pewter]

then sure

typically there are cases like with platforms where they require 200 (or walls with 400)

[north oracle]

That’s bizarre lmao

[cobalt pewter]

well with platforms and walls it's usually because they're adapting to the crafting recipe

a block makes 4 walls

if a wall takes 100 to fully research, then essentially you only need 25 blocks in order to effectively fully research said block, instead of 100

[ripe owl]

Kid named Stone Slab

[cobalt pewter]

I don't understand

1 Stone Block makes 1 Stone Slab

Stone Slab takes 100 to fully research

so does Stone Block

[ripe owl]

Oh yeah

Aight

[cobalt pewter]

lo

[umbral gazelle]

❗ jumpscare

[cobalt pewter]

@cursive sun pinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspinspins

[umbral gazelle]

soon ™️

[cursive sun]

oh

[cobalt pewter]

the doc in pins should be a good guideline for suggs, and that sugg is a hard no on the doc

[cursive sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901198419215921242.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[toxic basalt]

yes I don't see a problem here, nope. Definitely nothing wrong.

although maybe something did go wrong. Perhaps it was the fact that all the phantasmal eyes decided to fly of fin multiple different directions instead of converging directly at me, making it impossible to move up as a deathray was coming

[ripe owl]

...?

How's it related to suggestions?

[north oracle]

❗

[hollow ridge]

Is isn't the rock sugg a !

[ripe owl]

@zenith hazel could you exclaim the latest sugg in posting?

[toxic basalt]

because I was discussing about it yesterday and the possibility of making a suggestion on making ML a bit more fair with his projectile attacks

that there above is just another reason

[ripe owl]

Welp

If you really expect Shroomed to be fair

[toxic basalt]

shroomed is out of the question here

[ripe owl]

That's entirely your fault

[ripe owl]

Then show it in normal conditions

[toxic basalt]

if it wasn't shroomed it wouldn't of made a difference

[ripe owl]

Wouldn't have

No, it would

[toxic basalt]

I'll just point you back to this then

[ripe owl]

Because Shroomed quadriples the amount of everything on the screen

And is not balanced that much

[toxic basalt]

Even on shroomed I can see which projectiles are real due to the particles

[ripe owl]

So you better do it in normal conditions

[toxic basalt]

I already nohitted him on Master Death

don't believe me?

[ripe owl]

Nah

I did it in Rev and Death

And I'm fine with it

Say thanks you don't have eyes spamming lasers for no fucking reasons

[toxic basalt]

yes yes I know that no longer exists on Rev+

They're still annoying regardless

[ripe owl]

Pill tissues

[toxic basalt]

sigh It was only a matter of time until someone tried to be funny with that

[golden tulip]

meister im gonna be real with you man your way of communicating is kind of annoying

[north oracle]

Same lol, I’ve never had too many issues with that specific part of his fight

[ornate kestrel]

So why isn't this most recent suggestion flagged?

[umbral gazelle]

i think its because it just posted

[ripe owl]

It's been about two hours

And an hour since I've pinged Brav

[zenith hazel]

I just flagged it

[ripe owl]

Could you please close the thread I created?

[royal tapir]

This is so epic

[zenith hazel]

there's a thread?

[ripe owl]

Was

[hollow ridge]

Missed these

Pogger

[stable kiln]

me when suggestion discussion exists

[hybrid steeple]

pogger (singular)

[swift wharf]

@brazen minnow please keep reply/discuss suggestions in this channel and not in #suggestions-posting

[hollow ridge]

lol bro got excited

[hollow ridge]

Nah tbh all the recent implements are poggers

[toxic basalt]

thanks bud

[hybrid steeple]

true
you know its a good week when every sugg passes voting

[worldly basalt]

you'd be surprised, i've seen several cases of people doing calamity for their first playthrough

no idea why but they did

[dense locust]

"hmm yes, I shall play the calamity mod's death mode for my first ever playthrough"
"fuck, this game is bullshit"

[eternal escarp]

i dont know much about code but this sounds like a decent hunk of effort for not much changed
id assume editing that guarentee out wouldnt be worth it
(if a real coder would correct me thats cool)

[swift wharf]

I don't really like the suggestion

Because you'd be taking away a method of getting the arms dealer

fuck the grenade launcher tho idk what is its purpose

[drowsy plank]

nade already doesnt drop guarnteed

i dont understand the purpose of changing orbs either

just

break another orb

go fishing

idk

[swift wharf]

i don't think mage players will really miss the vilethorn

[sleek turret]

if boc/eow spawns just Save & Exit tbh...

[swift wharf]

^

[drowsy plank]

i mean