calamity-addon-talk

[deft sierra]

you did

do you want to join my fanclub..

theres only 1 person

[misty kindle]

who is?

https://medal.tv/games/terraria/clips/mmaSRRAU15uc9TGfY?invite=cr-MSx4U1QsNDYwMzMzODY4&v=30

[hearty orbit]

is infurnum yharon supposted to be miles harder than dog?

[frank mauve]

no

[misty kindle]

no

[hearty orbit]

cause dog took my 17 attempts

[misty kindle]

but he's miles worse

[deft sierra]

i hope not

[frank mauve]

yharon is pretty free

[hearty orbit]

and im on 80 for yharon

[misty kindle]

what.

[frank mauve]

i usually sleep against yharon

and then i beat him somehow

[hearty orbit]

idk why im struggling so much ig just a skill issue

[frank mauve]

prolly a loadout issue

i got some braindead loadouts if u want

[deft sierra]

are you a sleepwalker

[frank mauve]

im a skinwalker

[misty kindle]

oh yeah that

they call that the

"ram consumer"

not sure why

[frank mauve]

oh yeah twin

loadout issue

[restive rover]

Nighttime Providence is so pretty

[hearty orbit]

am i not suppost to ram dash?

[deft sierra]

shes mine

[languid latch]

They said i was crazy when i said this

[misty kindle]

looks like you two have something in common, twin

[frank mauve]

@hearty orbit use dis

[hearty orbit]

kk that omega blue?

[frank mauve]

thas fearmonger

[deft sierra]

for melee?

i know its super tanky but idk the details

[frank mauve]

fearmonger all class

[hearty orbit]

ahh i see

[frank mauve]

dont let the government fool you

[deft sierra]

like is it just the stats or do it have an interesting set bonus

[restive rover]

We turn into the Profaned simps

[frank mauve]

best tank armor

[deft sierra]

i see

ill try it

[frank mauve]

set bonus makes you immortal with minions

[misty kindle]

we, yes WE, WE ALL would be on our knees for calamitas

[restive rover]

Draedon

[frank mauve]

draefraud

this attack doesnt even deal that much dmg smh

[misty kindle]

what the actual fuck are you using

[pearl shoal]

nanomachines son (is Ace's high funny now?)

[frank mauve]

yes

aces high so peak it never reaches lifesteal cap

[fading dove]

ive never seen it go below like 30

[misty kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-senator-armstrong-punching-indomitable-gif-14166479420035208375

[fading dove]

it may actually reach the cap with adrenaline

[restive rover]

Tell me one of the Storm weaver attacks isn't inspired by Berdly from Deltarune lmao

[fading dove]

but atp you don';t need it

[frank mauve]

2.1.3: ace's high lifesteal cap is now 15

[misty kindle]

the reference is even funnier when you hear the motif from mgrr in the exo mechs theme

[smoky dock]

i wouldn’t be surprised

[naive dock]

why does bereft vassal only drop 1 scale bruh

[smoky dock]

which attack are you thinking about?

[naive dock]

imma need to fight this guy 3 times total

[smoky dock]

do you need more

[restive rover]

The tornado one

[smoky dock]

Ah yeah

Infernum Profaned Guards have an attack internally named BerdlySpears

[night fractal]

sstn + a weapon I guess

[restive rover]

Lol

[smoky dock]

BadBadToothNecklace? I don’t think that accessory’s very good

[misty kindle]

the girthening

[naive dock]

dragon pow and reaper tooth necklace use these things in crafting
so i can wait until veyr late but it is still a chore
for now imma probs get the sharknado for astregeldon

[frank mauve]

badbadtoothnecklace was buffed in 2.1.2

[misty kindle]

when i fought exo mechs a while ago i realised that mgrr has the original theme so i played that instead (definitely not because i beat calamity)

[naive dock]

ngl i could just turn off infernum and get normal great sandshark spawn (i think)

[frank mauve]

prolly not

[night fractal]

Actually it's very good rn

apparently

Maybe infernum retier makes it not as useful tho

[misty kindle]

bro yardis is so smart

[naive dock]

is the sandshark flail good at all

[misty kindle]

at making good builds

[frank mauve]

its still nice for ML

[frank mauve]

no

[misty kindle]

wym

[frank mauve]

thats bone reaper

bone reaper the goat

[misty kindle]

he made a build that did like 60k dps for polterghast as ranger

that's good if you ask me

[frank mauve]

he gets all of the ideas from bone reaper

[misty kindle]

who is that'

[pearl shoal]

yep since not many things benefit post-ML

[frank mauve]

the goat

[misty kindle]

i don't watch terraria content creators

other than sipho

[frank mauve]

he doesnt make content

well he does technically but not that popular

[misty kindle]

he IS da content

[frank mauve]

just join yardis server

[pearl shoal]

good ol 7

[misty kindle]

content is content

he's funny ash

[frank mauve]

wait sipho?

[misty kindle]

yeah

[frank mauve]

damn never watched em

[misty kindle]

you should bro

i mean he doesn't just post terraroa

he's funny because he's stupid

man summoned ravager inside his walnut house

[hearty orbit]

whats the pink lanters accsesory

[misty kindle]

and tried beating yharon as one of the first post ml bosses

[hearty orbit]

also why nothing dropping luminol

[pearl shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583454384290267147/1013203777735639160/ByThe7.gif

[frank mauve]

chalice?

[pearl shoal]

Luminite? Thats from Moon Lord

[night fractal]

this is so dead as soon as the defense dmg bug is fixed

[hearty orbit]

ty

[frank mauve]

no ill just find a new way (it still worked without stratus for a bit)

[naive dock]

what stats should i shoot for in my accessory reforges for astrageldon? I am not used to the new reforge stats so idk what the meta is

[frank mauve]

warding

could do invi

[night fractal]

does it not inflict miracle blight?

[frank mauve]

maybe invi since astral isnt known to have regen

[night fractal]

Oh wait

I misread

[pearl shoal]

Defensive reforges since Reactive Dmg Reduction, unless it bugged out

[proud lark]

can someone help me

[pearl shoal]

I should prob do a Geldon fight

[hearty orbit]

oh yeah and what reforges

[proud lark]

solyn is bugged

[frank mauve]

inf exos have like

a grand total of 0 debuff

[pearl shoal]

[frank mauve]

invigorating

[night fractal]

the fact that even blender has no blight is crazy

[hearty orbit]

one more thing sorry what candle

[frank mauve]

i prolly ran vigor

[hearty orbit]

and any alchohol

[frank mauve]

i usually run vigor

no alcohol

[night fractal]

moonshine would be free with that setup

[pearl shoal]

Moonshine could help vs Geldon

prob Margarita too

[naive dock]

is armored technically better because it is more dmg reduction?

[night fractal]

Defense dmg bug means moonshine has literally no downside

[night fractal]

no

warding is still better

[pearl shoal]

Any defensive reforge setup I meant

[proud lark]

theres like 50 pins

[pearl shoal]

and yea warding still better

[naive dock]

alright

[pearl shoal]

the 3rd one

[tawdry prawn]

chat i beat infernum golem 2nd try lol

[frank mauve]

what defense dmg bug

moonshine still works with stratus sphere shield

[proud lark]

its not about that

she isnt giving me the antiseed

[tawdry prawn]

why am i beating every infernum boss within 10 tries 💀

[frank mauve]

so ud still die after 3 hits in a row

[proud lark]

and also her dialogue is messed up

[pearl shoal]

Shield or Barrier = No defense dmg taken

[night fractal]

Any amount of barriers cause defense dmg to be entirely negated because defense dmg can't apply while the player is invincible

[frank mauve]

thats what im saying, u still get defense damage with moonshine and stratus sphere shield

ive tried it

[pearl shoal]

probably missing smth, go get help in the WotG server #other-discords

[night fractal]

that sounds... wrong from what I tested iirc

and what the code said when I fixed it I think

but idk

[frank mauve]

before i recorded i tried moonshine and died in like 1 sec

[hearty orbit]

does only the dilon wyrm drop luminol post dog

[pearl shoal]

maybe its like rogue inf stealth where it skips a check and triggers it?

[frank mauve]

then took off moonshine and bam it works

[night fractal]

weird

[frank mauve]

maybe test bcore instead of moonshine 🤔

[pearl shoal]

Kill Anahita and Leviathan for Lumenyl drops

[night fractal]

bcore and moonshine share the exact same code

[frank mauve]

oof

[pearl shoal]

btw @night fractal found out how to fix Inf stealth

[frank mauve]

inf stealth 🤔

[night fractal]

Answer: make stealth formula good

[pearl shoal]

ofc inside Cal you cant get it

[smoky dock]

omg genius

this is why you’re the dev boss man

[pearl shoal]

but as soon as an outside mod modifies GenericDamageClass' attack speed even if it gets reduced it becomes fucked up

[night fractal]

I am making stealth good next update for 4 weapons (the formula's still bad tho)

[frank mauve]

is this

[pearl shoal]

that is unrelated to Inf stealth as that is dmg

[frank mauve]

eclipse fall line

[night fractal]

no

[frank mauve]

oh ok

[night fractal]

eclipse fall line will also be cool

but they still use normal stealth overall

[frank mauve]

what about uhh

lemon nades

[night fractal]

the 4 I'm thinking of will have totally unique stealth

Yeah lemon nade

[smoky dock]

collect my lemons

[hearty orbit]

ohh the world glitch and unchecked them

[frank mauve]

when life gives you lemons, turn them into grenades

[night fractal]

boss checklist moment

[hearty orbit]

fr

[naive dock]

oh i forgot astrageldon starts on 2nd phase after you get there first time

[frank mauve]

we need a geldon speedkill again

isnt the record 3:17

or 3:14

[pearl shoal]

@night fractal change this to GenericDamageClass and Inf stealth should probably be fixed

[night fractal]

No that would just make it not check rogue damage

[frank mauve]

will this fix executionner blade taking 2 stealth strikes

[night fractal]

What it needs is to be GetAllAttackSpeed

[night fractal]

No

[frank mauve]

will that ever be fixed or left alone

[pearl shoal]

Thats GenericDamageClass tho?

[pearl shoal]

Thats because it is a Clockwork weapon

[night fractal]

No

[pearl shoal]

it will shoot many times on one click

[night fractal]

GetAllAttackSpeed<RogueDamageClass> or whatever

[pearl shoal]

hence it does 2 stealth strikes

[frank mauve]

[pearl shoal]

and that would also count boosts or changes to Player.GetAttackSpeed<GenericDamageClass>() ?

[night fractal]

It would count all boosts inherited into RogueDamageClass

The name of the method might not be GetAllAttackSpeed but it's similar

[plush pivot]

what tips do you guys have for infernum yharon?

[pearl shoal]

Keep your distance, fight will take a long while so probably best to focus on defensive stuff to not die since you can get blown up fast

[frank mauve]

better loadout

[plush pivot]

is this good?

using riftburst as bow

[frank mauve]

are u using minions

[plush pivot]

ranger

[frank mauve]

not using minions mean ur missing out on fearmonger whole set bonus

[pearl shoal]

ditch Daawnlight, you aint hitting the mark on such a fast boss

[plush pivot]

alr then, swap with?

[frank mauve]

if u wanna use daawnlight consistently then use scorched earth or universal genesis both with grape beer

[fading dove]

silva wings

[deft sierra]

either yharon is tanky as hell or im doing sth wrong

[pearl shoal]

Planebreaker's pouch

which is way better anyways

[fading dove]

i have no idea what that last thing is

[frank mauve]

planebreaker is so mid

[plush pivot]

is it just anything with homing

[night fractal]

did plane breaker get buffed

[frank mauve]

no

[night fractal]

then use sniper scope

[deft sierra]

guys help

guys

why am i doing 200 damage

[night fractal]

not planebreaker

[deft sierra]

2000

[frank mauve]

deadshot has 19% effective dmg while planebreaker has 20%

[pearl shoal]

it did get some buffs tho

[night fractal]

not anything notable

[frank mauve]

wdym anything with homing

[night fractal]

Ammo swap is niche

[plush pivot]

other mod stuff

[night fractal]

Ammo cost is fake

[plush pivot]

you can see i havent even binded lol

[pearl shoal]

and he's using a bow so the speed could help

[night fractal]

It doesn't add speed

[frank mauve]

im kinda confused ngl

[plush pivot]

whats the best gun actually?

[pearl shoal]

it does add arrow speed tho?

[plush pivot]

for pre-yharon

[fading dove]

isnt it only like an effective 10% velocity increase since its +1 update and all the arrows have a billion upates

[night fractal]

not according to the tooltip

[frank mauve]

if were talking inf, then thread of eradication with purity

thats the absolutely best

[pearl shoal]

or does it not inherit that part of the quivers anymore

[night fractal]

dunno

[pearl shoal]

like Ik it doesnt have the why was it even there extra updates

[frank mauve]

isnt planebreaker a deadshot upgrade

[night fractal]

yes

[plush pivot]

hmm

i can try it sure

[night fractal]

And a quiver

[frank mauve]

damn it has quiver in its recipe

that thing is doing NOTHING

[night fractal]

planebreaker is such a

an accessory

[plush pivot]

purity is the one that needs night prov or?

[frank mauve]

✅

[pearl shoal]

after it lost splitting arrows it has been very sad

[plush pivot]

kk

[frank mauve]

thread of eradication + purity + hyperius goes crazy

[night fractal]

It was good before sniper scope was a thing and when it still gave velocity

[night fractal]

this is gonna be so dead

ToE is moving from never crits to always crits with scaling crit dmg based on crit chance

[frank mauve]

isnt only hyperius dead

[night fractal]

so purity will halve the dmg

[frank mauve]

and it still wont work with daawnlight 😿

[night fractal]

It probably might actually

Bc it doesn't crit rn bc it's not ranged dmg

[frank mauve]

what damage does it use lmao

[night fractal]

probably typeless

[fading dove]

it'd be funny if it was rogue

too many things that have dealt rogue instead of their intendend type

[smoky dock]

make it deal rogue damage just to piss people off

“class runners” in shambles after realizing an accessory they used for half the game is rogue instead of rouge (they have to uninstall the game and shave their head to repent)

[frank mauve]

can we get rogue and rouge

one for stealth one for spam

just like melee and true melee 🥹

[high cosmos]

what is the best melee weapon for infernum moon lord?

[frank mauve]

grand guardian

[high cosmos]

istn that a true melee?

[frank mauve]

its the best melee weapon

everything else suck

[high cosmos]

everytime i get close i take craptons of damage

[graceful plaza]

erm am i somehow supposed to enter this rift or does it just chill i here

i just killed ceaseless void

idek why its health bar is still there

[frank mauve]

talk to solyn

[graceful plaza]

aight

[woven rune]

If only Myrindael was an actual weapon

Goated movement tool but man

Ahh for ML

[plush pivot]

btw, what are best reforges for accessories at yharon

[onyx pecan]

i guess it depends on if you want survivability or something, but me personally i always go with warding

[frank mauve]

i remember it being decent for ML but now it feels straight up ass

[woven rune]

yep

[onyx pecan]

yharon in base calamity is kinda easy though but i still prefer using warding just to be safe

it's only on infernum where he's kind of annoying

took me less tries than old duke though

[dapper lintel]

I hate infernum boomer duke

I hate him

I hate astrageldon and that fuckass damage reduction

[frank mauve]

bypass it

[onyx pecan]

eh i'd much rather fight astrageldon than goozma

goozma is not fun

wait that reminds me

are catalyst and wrath of the machines compatible with infernum

the only addons I've tried with it were Hunt of the Old God and WoTG

[dense ocean]

Wrath of the Machines overwrites Infernum.

[onyx pecan]

got it
do the choices still count towards the dev/death wishes?

[dense ocean]

I don't think you can make a choice.

[onyx pecan]

i thought you could since i tried wrath of the machines on a normal calamity playthrough and it let me choose one
i'll have to try that out

[spiral jewel]

Hey guys i want to try the infernal eclipse of ragnarok but idk how modoacks work, do i ave l clean my mod folder before instaling the pack? Or how i do to not break shit?

[onyx pecan]

you don't have to get rid of other mods to install it, you just need to enable all the mods specifically from that modpack and you're fine

[gentle zenith]

im on a new version of tmod launcher but i need an older one for infernum how do i get an older version?

[dense ocean]

You shouldn't.

[jagged epoch]

Ok

[vestal bison]

is this good enough for infernum yharon with ranger?

[gentle zenith]

yo bro how are u playin infernum i cant play it cuz im on a too new version

[spiral jewel]

If i disable all the mods an install the pack ill it enable the mods automatically or would i have to go one by one?

[frank mauve]

update it

[gentle zenith]

wym

[frank mauve]

get sponge over neb core and ampoule/dark sun ring over affliction

[vestal bison]

alright thanks

[frank mauve]

lelouch ur supposed to be smart💔

[vestal bison]

should i use infinity or anti materiel for the fight

[frank mauve]

anyway subscribe/unsubscribing from the workshop directly should work

[onyx pecan]

sponge is nice but i rarely get to have it regen the shield

[gentle zenith]

its 1:30 am leave me alone 🥀

[spiral jewel]

Personally i did not use purity, i went for a full crit build with the sniper you nee for tiranys end (not the rubico prime)

[frank mauve]

use universal genesis with tungsten bullets with grape beer

[spiral jewel]

I used anti material rifle

And the onixia

[frank mauve]

ok im out now

[spiral jewel]

Back to what i asked, if i install the pack would it enable the mods inmediately?

[onyx pecan]

i don't think so

[spiral jewel]

Ok, i guess im doing the manual enabling then

[onyx pecan]

you'd probably have to enable them one by one and save the modpack yea

i forgot if infernal eclipse of ragnarok used the stars above or not but I wonder if it's compatible with it

I'd have to see

[spiral jewel]

It doesnt have it

But you tough the same as i dd xD

I wonder if it could also be compatible with the souls dlc

[dense ocean]

Of course it wouldn't.

[onyx pecan]

fargo's dlc says it's not compatible with thorium and other content mods

[spiral jewel]

F

Guess we will have to wait for bereft souls and fargos 2.0 to release for that compatibility to exist

[dense ocean]

Bereft Souls won't use Infernum.

[spiral jewel]

Imma try IEoR + stars above

[spiral jewel]

Good enough

I got tired of infernum

Wich is ironic cause im about to play an infernum modoack

But whatever

[heavy moat]

Omnipresent force

[onyx pecan]

me personally it feels weird to play base calamity after going through infernum

hi lucille

[spiral jewel]

After playing infernum, playing revengeance feels easy, but not unbearable

There are some infernum fights i prefeer and some base cal fights i preferr

Eg, i like base cal brain more but i like the infernum perfs better

Also i like infernum deus more

But i hate infernum cultist

Oh, also infernum ceasless, its the only ceasless void fight i actually like

Tho i still prefer the overhaul mechs

[onyx pecan]

yea base calamity ceaseless void is kinda annoying

[onyx pecan]

i personally prefer wrath of the machines as of lately

[spiral jewel]

Wish i could just use the overhaul mechs without ANYTHING else from overhaul

[spiral jewel]

Mechs not exo mechs

[onyx pecan]

ah

[spiral jewel]

I love WoTM

[heavy moat]

My haters will do ANYTHING to put down WotM

[spiral jewel]

Mechs mean twins, destroye, prime

[dense ocean]

I didn't even play Wrath of the Machines, so there.

[night fractal]

wotm more like actually playable exo mechs

[onyx pecan]

lucille does wotm work just fine with infernum or

[spiral jewel]

Luci i found a bug, i have friendly npcs dont die but solyn died anyways ;-;

[dense ocean]

It overwrites Infernum.

[heavy moat]

^

[spiral jewel]

More like actually fun mechs

[dense ocean]

That's 'cause she's EVIL!

[spiral jewel]

Lies!

[onyx pecan]

honestly thanatos from wotm feels more fun rather than infernum where it's devourer of gods 2 (ram dashing over and over and over)

[dense ocean]

She helps with NO boss fights until Draedon makes her.
She's deadweight!

[night fractal]

new alternate wotg ending if you have Friendly NPCs Don't Die installed

[heavy moat]

The Avatar is unkillable and you both lose?

[night fractal]

so true

[spiral jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-his-pizza-into-squares-cut-pizza-pizza-squares-gif-12519099119807951061

[junior marten]

bro I was struggling with abomination in fargos souls for HOURS yesterday, and then I launch into fighting him again immediately after coming home from work today and I proceed to basically nohit

[dense ocean]

I could kill Avatar of Emptiness. Solyn just wasn't pulling her weight.

[junior marten]

how does this work??

[onyx pecan]

something similar happened to me with astrageldon

[spiral jewel]

Doesnt solyn just acts as a shield support in the avatar?

Tho i love the solyn laser in mars

I saw theres a mod that basically just turns the solyn laser and the nameless deity laser into weapons

[onyx pecan]

sometimes i wonder if wotg bosses will get buffs for infernum since they feel easier than infernum exo mechs
or if that's just not gonna happen

[spiral jewel]

Busted and pobably stolen code

[dense ocean]

They get title cards.

[spiral jewel]

Personally i feel they are just as hard

[heavy moat]

She does passive damage but yeah her role is a lot more diminished
Mars was developed after Avatar was for the most part in place

I want WotG2 to have her be a bit more involved when you're fighting Avatar but not to the same extent as Mars where the tag team mechanics are like, the Entire idea (because doing that would basically require remaking the fight from scratch when there's certain things that I honestly kinda wanna keep)

[dense ocean]

I just think Solyn should do stuff in general.

[heavy moat]

So do I

[onyx pecan]

i kinda just spammed scarlet devil stealth strikes on avatar of emptiness and nameless deity and won

[spiral jewel]

Im not a moder, just a web dev so i dont know how hard it is, but it would be cool to get her help in other fights with less stong powers, or maybe weapons you get by completing her quests

[spiral jewel]

I used soma prime :v

The bleed was... A little bit too much for the 3D dead god

[night fractal]

i just used demonshade with brittle stars and ggs

[spiral jewel]

Considering solyn joins the world post skeletron having a piece of the genesis in PreHM would be okey

[onyx pecan]

i haven't played ranger yet but I imagine that weapon is really good or something

[onyx pecan]

brittle star staff my beloved

[night fractal]

literally my weapon was demonshade armor

[spiral jewel]

I always use demonshade

[night fractal]

i just spam respawned the devil

so it rapidfired the tridents

[onyx pecan]

i use demonshade unless i'm using stealth rogue or unless i have hunt of the old god installed

[night fractal]

simply use it for stealth too

vega makes that possible

[vital mulch]

🤔 👀

[spiral jewel]

Think about this:

SMG + bleed that deals the same dps as the weapon

[spiral jewel]

I was doing around 200k dps

[onyx pecan]

wait how does vega give stealth
i only used it to get the eclipse's fall tbh

[vital mulch]

do I have to pay a fare

[dense ocean]

No, no, it's fine, I just wasn't expecting Charon to be Japanese.

[spiral jewel]

How much does charont charges for the ride?

[heavy moat]

It's a courtesy
One that ought not be taken for granted

[vital mulch]

just dont cut all my limbs off and im happy

ive seen what it does to old duke

[heavy moat]

This world is out to get Old Duke

[spiral jewel]

Hey luci, is there like a solyn vanity set in base WotG

[heavy moat]

His days are numbered

[spiral jewel]

Agree

[dense ocean]

I mean, yeah, he's old.

[vital mulch]

theseus and damocles are both after him

[onyx pecan]

i don't think so, but there's a separate mod for it

[spiral jewel]

A

Cause imma play a mage and want to get a solyn vanity set

[heavy moat]

And yet everyone loves Gerson

[dense ocean]

Gerson is dead.

[spiral jewel]

Gerson isnt a bum

[dense ocean]

Which is kind of the point I'm making.

[spiral jewel]

Gerson literally no difs the devil

Old duke cant even no dif the player

[heavy moat]

Death had to take him when he was asleep or else there'd have been a fight

[dense ocean]

GERSON WAS PRESIDENT!?

[spiral jewel]

And he would have fucking won

[vital mulch]

🔥✍️

[spiral jewel]

Anyway, imma go try something completely stupid

[onyx pecan]

wait why does old duke get instakilled on wotg

[spiral jewel]

IEoR + Stars above + WotM + WotG

[spiral jewel]

Literally cause luci hates that boss

Its free gift bag

[dense ocean]

Because it's funny.

[onyx pecan]

imo he's only really annoying on infernum

[vital mulch]

everybody hates old duke

[spiral jewel]

Hey lucille you should make Wrath of the Slimes, where slime king, slime queen and slime god fucking pull out a shadowspec tier weapon each and kill you over and over :v

[onyx pecan]

i mean you have hunt of the old god if you want a slime superboss

[dense ocean]

Yeah but Goozma doesn't come off as wrathful, you know?

Slime God with a gun, however...

[vital mulch]

its attack patterns are quite wrathful

[rocky harbor]

does someone knows why does these happen?

[cedar laurel]

It look like it would be a bug from melee effect mod but idk

[smoky dock]

yeah

melee effects and similar weapon VFX overhauls tend to not play nice with modded weapons

[naive dock]

let's goooo i beat astrageldon for the first time! I did 8 "warmup" runs with no buffs and i got him first try with all the buffs active

[rocky harbor]

nice does the fase two got save? mine dosn't

[naive dock]

yeah it starts phase 2 for me

maybe it is in mod config

[rocky harbor]

dam, I had been trying to save fase two for some many try but it just dosn't save for some reason

[naive dock]

i would look in mod configuration

if it isn't there then idrk

[fading dove]

are you playing ieor

[rocky harbor]

pretty empty xd

[rocky harbor]

ieor?

[naive dock]

probably another mod clashing with it then

[fading dove]

infernal eclipse of ragnarok

[rocky harbor]

yep

[fading dove]

intentional feature of that modpack

[rocky harbor]

o

that make sences

[fading dove]

genuinely everything ive heard of that modpack ranges from inconvenient to actively sabotaging the player

[rocky harbor]

i suppose

ajjaja yes xd

I suffer so much with it

[onyx pecan]

i thought it seemed cool since it combined calamity with thorium and a bunch of other content mods
is it THAT bad?

[fading dove]

for example, when standing in front of lihzahrd brick walls before defeating plantera gives you a very heavy damage over time debuff

[rocky harbor]

until DoG and could't defeat him in infernal ragnarok mode so I got to infernum

[fading dove]

which means you don't get to have a solar tablet, forcing you to have to wait for one to occur naturally if you want a solar eclipse pre-plantera

[onyx pecan]

i don't really care much about solar eclipse pre plantera since the main reason i do those is for broken hero swords which are post plantera anyways

[fading dove]

they also make a boss drop a material that is exclusively used to craft another boss' summon item

the material has no other use

[rocky harbor]

i yeha, another reason i hated throrium

[fading dove]

that's not a thorium thing 🤍

that's from ieor

[rocky harbor]

those bosses can't be summon and need to be found by rng

[smoky dock]

what the everloving fuck

[frank mauve]

so u have to fight every boss

[smoky dock]

does it force you to go in order or fight every boss?

[frank mauve]

its dumb

[fading dove]

yeah pretty much

[smoky dock]

what the fuck

[fading dove]

which is antithetical to the base mod's (calamity) design

[naive dock]

wtf astrageldon armor is way overtuned for pre moonlord lmao

[fading dove]

geldon is a superboss and so gives super gear

[smoky dock]

so, like, to fight polterghast I need to beat cv, sw and signut?

[onyx pecan]

i'd say it's good until post providence i think

[fading dove]

metanova items are intended post-providence in terms of strength

[smoky dock]

Astrageldon's drops are balanced with the post-Providence tier in mind

[fading dove]

probably

[onyx pecan]

ah, i kinda just switched to tarragon armor and other post providence stuff

[naive dock]

why would they do that but actively block you from fighting the boss atp

[smoky dock]

actually i can just summon polterghast the regular way

[naive dock]

kinda weird imo

[fading dove]

you undertake an optional challenge to get powerful gear

[naive dock]

are the other astro unlocks overtuned like the weapons?

[smoky dock]

Because it's intended to be a superboss
But if you had access to lunar equipment, it'd be too easy

[fading dove]

also geldon is genuinely trivialised with luminite armour

[cedar laurel]

the no hit weapon destroy DoG I think

[smoky dock]

They COULD totally put geldon at the end of the game but that's where every other superboss is and that tier is horrendously and actively unbalanced

And you'd have no game left to enjoy the drops with!

[naive dock]

i don't think he was hat hard anyways

[smoky dock]

i don't either, but

that's what the intent was

it's up to you to decide if that was a good idea or well executed or whatever

[onyx pecan]

i think astrageldon being pre-moon lord is fine but i feel like it being permanently locked instead of buffed post-moon lord (unless killed beforehand) is a bit strange

[naive dock]

i think imma hold off on using his drops so i can fight these infernum bosses for the first time more properly
they are balanced to be used against polter though? i might come back to them

[smoky dock]

i agree

There are a lot of baffling design choices with Astrageldon

But I think the positives outweigh them. I like geldon for the most part

[naive dock]

the fight was quite fun

that is probably the most important thing

[onyx pecan]

i agree, and i also like the checkpoint system it has since it does take a bit to get to phase 2

idk if there's any weapon from other classes that melts astrageldon but all i know is that swarmer is really good

[frank mauve]

if it was postml and buffed itd be useless

since why not fight polter directly?

easier and has better stuff

[naive dock]

my first attempt on this playthrough the fight went on for 11 minutes then he went to phase 2 and i died right away
winning attempt took 5 mins lol

[rocky harbor]

i sitll can fight astrogen even after post DoG

[frank mauve]

thats cuz u have a mod

called catalyst anti tier lock

[rocky harbor]

nop

I don't have it

[frank mauve]

arent u playing ieor

[rocky harbor]

yeah

ooo

ok

that make more sences xd

wait

if i tak eout ieor will my game run smother?

[onyx pecan]

entropic claymore carried me on my melee run tbh

[frank mauve]

probably

[rocky harbor]

dam, fck ieor then

[frank mauve]

well its a mod pack

thats expected

anyway ieor doesnt seem to have the anti tier lock, its probably their own mod doing that then

[naive dock]

eye of magnus pretty much carried me

i used that and grand guardian

my summons might have done the most dmg even though i am melee

it is just hard to get in

[onyx pecan]

for summons i only use brittle star for defense

[pearl shoal]

If you killed Geldon pre-ML, it is not locked

[rocky harbor]

nop it was ieor

[naive dock]

just to confirm rq, geldon drops are balanced against the polter tier of the game?

i want to try them somewhat but i don't want to steamroll moonlord and providence i would try it on old duke if it is on tier for that maybe

[frank mauve]

✅

[naive dock]

alr thanks

[rocky harbor]

dam, goodbye probably 500 items xd

[smoky dock]

i’m amazed your world isn’t hopelessly corrupted

[rocky harbor]

me too

[graceful blaze]

guys how do i get infernum DoG to come at me from the left/right so it’s biting up and downwards?

[naive dock]

infernum moonlord true melee fishron mount ✅

[graceful blaze]

we love luiAFK arena builder

[naive dock]

yep that is practically the only reason i have the mod active

[graceful blaze]

literally same

and also for the drill mount mod so i can make big arenas for infernum bosses

infernum DoG 6%

[rocky harbor]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YHARON HAS 2 HP BARS, DOES SUPREME WITCH CALAMITAS HAS 3 OR WHAT

[frank mauve]

no

yharon only has 900k hp for both phases

[graceful blaze]

should i go for full warding or switch to menacing for infernum DoG summoner? i die in two bites anyway

[frank mauve]

are u running stardust armor

[graceful blaze]

bloodflare rn

is stardust still good?

[frank mauve]

go stardust

and full virid vanguard

[graceful blaze]

okay ill try that

[frank mauve]

also virid vanguard has an ability

make sure to spam it

[graceful blaze]

oki

stardust wings too?

i kind of struggle with flight time even with ascendant insignia

[frank mauve]

go with tarragon wings then

[graceful blaze]

oki

[frank mauve]

also if ur coiling then use witch broom

[graceful blaze]

i lack the brainpower for coiling

[frank mauve]

it goes crazy with virid

[graceful blaze]

20k damage on a target dummy holy

[graceful blaze]

i can imagine but i always mess it up

[frank mauve]

yeah its pretty good

[graceful blaze]

oh my god

its still good without coiling right?

ive been using the squids which were okay

[frank mauve]

yeah should be

i guess sirius is a good option

havent tried subjugator on inf dog but i heard its pretty good

[graceful blaze]

if virid doesnt work for me ill give those a go

DoG is so much easier on melee with the soaring potion (i think?) flight thing

[frank mauve]

the getting back flight with true melee hits was removed

[graceful blaze]

good thing i did it before brainstorm then lol

feel like im doing a lot less dmg

like tons less

probably because im not coiling

[onyx pecan]

what's coiling

[graceful blaze]

look at the clip a few msgs above

[onyx pecan]

oh yeah that
never played summoner but I'm used to ram dashing every time dog gets close

[frank mauve]

hmm weird try sirius or subjugator

[graceful blaze]

sirius was dogshit so i am gonna try that

[rocky harbor]

with mage is easier actually

[graceful blaze]

also i hate when my ram dash doesnt activate instantly

source of most of my deaths

[onyx pecan]

I'd say Infernum DoG wasn't that bad with stealth rogue either, with old duke's weapons

at least from my experience

I just needed to time my ram dashes and everything else wasn't that much of an issue

[rocky harbor]

I did suffer a lot with him

305 tries

second fase was killing me

[graceful blaze]

subjugator is working well but its the ram dash killing me lol

happened twice in five seconds lmfao

[frank mauve]

whats the loadout looking like

[graceful blaze]

wing slot so you can boo me

[jagged epoch]

when im playing w 2 ppl on infernum why dont we both get the boss drops

[dapper lintel]

bot alert

i saw it

[frank mauve]

u could do deific amulet for more iframes and give u more time, sealocket/flesh totem over evolution

[rocky harbor]

yep

[frank mauve]

profaned thingy is fine

[graceful blaze]

forgot about sealocket

and that boss in general

kind of forgettable boss ngl

i hate this guy bruh

im done with this mod for a bit

his ai pisses me off

i dont know how this is doable without old soaring potions

[frank mauve]

how are u fighting it

flighttime is rarely an issue unless ur coiling

[graceful blaze]

he comes from the bottom and i dash left and right while flying

i cant fight him any other way

and half of the time when he comes out of a portal his ai gives up, does a full loop and one taps me

and coiling doesnt feel possible for me

[frank mauve]

do u fight dog like horizontally or vertically

[frank mauve]

ohh thats y

yeah that does take alot of flighttime

i just do it horizontally

[graceful blaze]

i cant :(

[frank mauve]

u tried?

[graceful blaze]

yeah

he goes all weird

and loops back on himself

[frank mauve]

https://youtu.be/ktVVju3suFk?si=xqS7yBcVXYqlSoTh

[graceful blaze]

ill try but it feels uncomfortable whenever i do it

[near wedge]

1 boss away from beating calamity

4 month playthrough almost over

[graceful blaze]

kind of did it but the end is what always happens

[frank mauve]

ur dashing way too soon

theres supposed to be a rhythm

[graceful blaze]

im not good enough to go thru the platforms each dash like you do in the vid

[junior marten]

not sure why, but my mechanic has disappeared from my world and wont spawn in the dungeon, im post exo mechs and calamitas, is she supposed to spawn still?

[frank mauve]

its fine, try to dash when dog is close to you instead

instead of dashing early

[floral epoch]

you should try stellar torus :p

[near wedge]

DoG switched from vertical to horizontal

and you dodged away from him on horizontal

which never works

[graceful blaze]

i dont get it but whatever

[floral epoch]

is it...?

[graceful blaze]

just persitance

or quit ig lol

[dapper lintel]

you'll get it eventually

[near wedge]

Dog has two types of dashing at you

[dapper lintel]

it took me over 300 tries to actually beat inf DoG

[near wedge]

he either does up down up down or side to side

[fading dove]

if you want a pre-made route i've got one for you

[dapper lintel]

in my infernal ragnarok run i managed to it first try

(wished it was a no-hit)

[floral epoch]

infernal ragnarok,,,>

?

[dapper lintel]

modpack

[floral epoch]

infernum + ragnarok or something?

[graceful blaze]

?

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/LTij3CcbVRw

[frank mauve]

infernum + thorium yeah

[fading dove]

follow this and you won't lose

[frank mauve]

and some extra content mods

[floral epoch]

thorium...?

[dapper lintel]

infernum + secrets of the shadows + thorium + consolaria + homeward journey + calamity addons all scaled up to infernum stats

[fading dove]

it's made to be as consistent as possible while keeping up high damage

[fading dove]

except that it removes the nonlinearity that cal has

and forces other mods to be linear too

[dapper lintel]

this.

i got burnout from that modpack tbh

[floral epoch]

wtf

[dapper lintel]

at least rampart had a pretty good buff in that modpack being mixed with the terrarium defender from thorium

[graceful blaze]

im not good enough to play like that

[fading dove]

i was considering playing it to see just how bad it was but after i heard that it just fucking kills you if you go into the lihzahrd temple pre plant i lost all hope for it

[fading dove]

what about it seems hard

[frank mauve]

wouldnt ieor have an option at least to remove that linearity

[graceful blaze]

its fine though i always cheat after yharon because last two are not possible for me

[floral epoch]

this is my first time seeing a gameplay like this

[dapper lintel]

yeah that's a softlock in pre hardmode

[frank mauve]

no u can beat them if u put some attempts

[graceful blaze]

my gameplay is dogshit compared to this and nerves at the end make me terrrible

[graceful blaze]

it took me 300 with soaring potions

last time

[frank mauve]

thats fine

[dapper lintel]

meant to not make you skip tier by applying a debuff to you whenever you dare to step into the jungle temple without killing plantera

[fading dove]

i actually play somewhat poorly in the video, making unnecessarily risky plays

[frank mauve]

did u check if ieor has configs to remove the boss locks

[dapper lintel]

nope

[gritty galleon]

is hydrothermal enchant worth using

[fading dove]

yeah

[dapper lintel]

i played with the config untouched

[fading dove]

hydrothermic ench is quite strong

the flares damage is 200 highest class

300 wizzed

[dapper lintel]

anyways

back to fight scal

because it's funny

[gritty galleon]

then should i use the wizard enchant or whatever the name thingy to buff it?

or do i just go for spectral

[near wedge]

Whats the best scal summoner weapon?

[fading dove]

depends on if you think spending the second slot on it is worth

[dapper lintel]

but first, some music

[fading dove]

good question

[frank mauve]

perdition pretty good since its sentry slots

[dapper lintel]

perdition is a summoner weapon, right?

[frank mauve]

✅

[graceful blaze]

oh my fucking god this thing has the worst ai ever

[near wedge]

Oh i worded it incorrectly

i meant PRE scal

post exo mechs

[dapper lintel]

i just checked

[fading dove]

oh

exoskeleton

[frank mauve]

did u get ares exoskeleton

if not just use saros

[fading dove]

its exoskeleton there's zero competition

[frank mauve]

the competition is managing to get ares dsp

[dapper lintel]

tis' good?

[fading dove]

its ok

[frank mauve]

which is quite annoying to do

since ares fucking dies

everytime

[dapper lintel]

i think someone has a video of how to do the ares desp easy stupid

[frank mauve]

its just alright

[fading dove]

significantly worse than exoskeleton but its alright if you don't wanna put in the effort or are refighting exos for exoskeleton

[dapper lintel]

holdon lemme fetch it

[frank mauve]

ares dsp isnt the problem

[near wedge]

whats the drop rate

[fading dove]

100%

[frank mauve]

the problem is GETTING ares dsp

[floral epoch]

should they rework that...?

[frank mauve]

this dude always die before u get to his dsp

[fading dove]

all exo drops except masks are 100%

and i guess exo armaments kit

[near wedge]

Why didnt it drop then? Does he have to be the last one alive?

[fading dove]

and thank yu

yeah

[near wedge]

oh

i fought the twins last

[fading dove]

you have to kill an exo last to add its drops to the pool

[pine pewter]

Twins last is surge driver and atom splitter irc

Thanatos drops Spine of Thanatos and Refraction Rotor

[dapper lintel]

Found it xd

[graceful blaze]

i actually cant make him stay horizontal because his dumb mouth doesnt go for me so he ends up turning

[pine pewter]

Ares drops Ares Exoskeleton and idk the other one

[near wedge]

holy frames

[frank mauve]

jailor and the chainsaw

[dapper lintel]

ain't my video
but yea, same problem with me
my laptop lags a lot with exo mechs for some reason, i had to put skip frames off just to survive

[pine pewter]

right

For some reason Providence's fireball attacks halve my fps

[dapper lintel]

(side note: ares' laugh is peak)

[pine pewter]

[floral epoch]

freezing and lag spike

for me

[graceful blaze]

how tf do i make him go horizontal it makes no sense

he always attacks me so i have to fly up

[near wedge]

What attempt are you on

[graceful blaze]

30 but ive had around 300 (seemingly useless) on a playthrough in jan

i got to 6% like on my second attempt but ive been dying consistently on phase 1 now

so idk i fucking suck

[near wedge]

I just copied myra's movements

I knew all the bosses movements by attempt 150

every run afterwards was just trying to time things correctly

[graceful blaze]

am i supposed to know who that is

[near wedge]

Just search up a no hit run of dog

[floral epoch]

the wizard wasted 3 hours just to fight exo mechs with a fucking magic stick

[graceful blaze]

do you think i havent done that

[frank mauve]

im gonna test some summons for dog without coiling

[graceful blaze]

its not a summon issue i just cant make sense of his movement

dont worry im quitting for a bit

waiting until i actually want to fight him

[near wedge]

Interesting

I always thought he had the most predictable attack pattern but the most annoying fucking margin of error

[frank mauve]

holy shit subjugator lowk goated

[graceful blaze]

when i try fighting him horizontally he just always overbites or underbites, never goes for me and then when he whiffs his attack like an idiot and loops around and goes vertical

[frank mauve]

im p sure its cuz ur dashing way too soon

u be dashing when hes still so far

then it fucks up

[near wedge]

Are you dashing towards him or away from him

on horizontal

[graceful blaze]

away? dashing into him seems stupid

i don’t get your meaning

[frank mauve]

tenryu + subj seems to be worse than just full subj

[near wedge]

thats the problem

dash into him

Towards him

[graceful blaze]

why

[near wedge]

He wont do the loop if you do that

[graceful blaze]

Is this not dashing away

if i were to dash the other way i would die

[frank mauve]

stellar torus is still good for dog ngl

[graceful blaze]

lowd is that dashing away or towards des has me fucking confused

[near wedge]

ohhhh

misunderstanding

No dashing away is correct in that

i was talking about his other direction of attack

[frank mauve]

yuh

dashing away

[near wedge]

You are going diagonal (upwards) in this

[frank mauve]

holy shit im gonna sleep dog is acc so boring

[graceful blaze]

i can’t really control that easily

kind of up to luck in my case

plus i have no idea where i should be like in relation to his phase transition/portals

i don’t know how i went from 6% on 2nd try to the worst terraria player in fucking history like

also doesn’t help it’s so fucking cold in my house so i shake like an old man

[near wedge]

see how im not going diagonal on the attack

(i know im using better gear but that doesnt change the movement)

Platforms are also too close together

[graceful blaze]

another hour of arena building when i wake up hooray

[near wedge]

You could just destroy every other platform

Would be about perfect distance if you did that

[graceful blaze]

I’ll try that i guess

not looking forward to the rest of the playthru after i beat him though because ive never beaten infernum exos or scal

they’re genuinely too hard for me

I can’t tell what is going on in exos and sCal is just bullet hell slop

[near wedge]

Have you gotten past dog before?

[graceful blaze]

yeah

I beat yharon and he’s really fun

[frank mauve]

u can use a really defensive loadout to beat them

[graceful blaze]

but last two sucked

so I cheated

[near wedge]

Damn

EXO is my second favorite boss

[graceful blaze]

on summoner?

[near wedge]

DoG is best fs

[graceful blaze]

i like infernum dog he’s definitely a really good infernum fight because he tests you

but he can be such bullshit sometimes that it takes all the appreciation away

[frank mauve]

summoner got the bulkiest set

[graceful blaze]

i think i like prov the most

[onyx pecan]

infernum dog is nice but it makes me wish thanatos was more than just another dog (constantly ram dashing into him)

[frank mauve]

i be using auric summoner with other classes if i wanna tank stuff

[graceful blaze]

dude I didn’t even know that because I couldn’t get past the first minute of inf exos without the game crashing or me dying

[graceful blaze]

oh that’s good then

[onyx pecan]

in my experience the easiest combination was apollo-artemis and ares

[near wedge]

yes

thats what i did

ares first

because hes the most difficult

[onyx pecan]

ares isn't that bad it's mainly apollo and artemis that get really annoying

[frank mauve]

or u can use fearmonger

its fucked up though

[graceful blaze]

from what I’ve read it looks really weird

[remote vigil]

what weapon should a melee chud like me use for infernum yharon🥺

[onyx pecan]

ohhh
i never did melee on infernum but maybe try galaxy smasher? dunno if it's as effective

[gritty galleon]

what ranger weapon do i use for dlc moonlord

[spare holly]

infernum thanatos is just dog but less dashy and more projectileslop

[spare holly]

galaxy smasher is great

[remote vigil]

bet

i been using murasama

[onyx pecan]

my current run (melee) has been on death mode cause remnants doesn't support infernum for some reason
then i realized remnants reconfigured actually works with infernum and maybe i shouldn't have disabled it

eh whatever
next playthrough will be with ranger since i already did stealth rogue and mage

[frank mauve]

devil devastation

[remote vigil]

bet ill try that

[spare holly]

ranger is the best class so good choice

[onyx pecan]

out of all 3 classes I played, so far I had the most fun with mage and stealth rogue compared to melee

[frank mauve]

yo what she doing inside the blender

[onyx pecan]

idk something about doing stealth strikes sounds cooler than spamming

[onyx pecan]

huh

[remote vigil]

way better also

[maiden cobalt]

she's pulling a solyn and shielding herself

[onyx pecan]

scarlet devil and supernova stealth strikes my beloved

[frank mauve]

2.1 had a lot of fun techs tbh

prolly one of the best update ever

[gritty galleon]

what ranger weapon do i use for dlc moonlord

[remote vigil]

storm maidens retribution defo the best one

[onyx pecan]

oh yeah but since i was using wotg on my rogue playthrough i couldn't use it until after nameless deity

[remote vigil]

true

wai

no

i used it before

on the uhh avatar

[onyx pecan]

well, when i got it, it had a black square covering it and when i looked at the description it said something along the lines of "beat the final challenge to be able to use this weapon"

[remote vigil]

ima go look

[onyx pecan]

same with kevin

[remote vigil]

i forgot my game crashes when i try to load into my old world i played rouge wotg on;

i cant check

wait it worked

oh shoot

yea i cant use it now

wtf

new update ?

[onyx pecan]

probably

[frank mauve]

what was i gonna try

[remote vigil]

something

[near wedge]

Farming dog for platinum rn

[onyx pecan]

i kinda just farm energized eater of worlds for money

[near wedge]

is it better than dog for money?

[onyx pecan]

i mean it takes a pretty short time to kill the eater of worlds in my experience so i'd say it's a good, quick way of getting some platinum if you keep spawning them

[frank mauve]

ok so giant pearl sucks for inf guard

unfortunate

[onyx pecan]

is giant pearl even that good

[frank mauve]

it works on bosses

its pretty situational but yeah kinda good

[near wedge]

Thats actually bs

i cannot physically have ares be the last one alive

no matter what fucking combination i do

[pine pewter]

Absolute cinema

[dense bridge]

i sure love ram dashing old duke and then not getting iframes out of it

[dense bridge]

keep cooking

[frank mauve]

see

thats the hard part

not killing ares

[near wedge]

yeah no shot im farming this boss for 100 attempts to get a summon

[dapper lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[frank mauve]

holy shit

giant pearl is fucked with yharon

[near wedge]

Scal is fucking me up

got her to 95% on run 3

[maiden cobalt]

greetings charon

please take me to dennys

[junior marten]

um how is the mutant possible? I keep getting him to about 80% and then he just spams the arena wide attacks that you cant dodge

[pine pewter]

is it the nuke/slime attack?

[junior marten]

drops meteors over the whole arena

[pine pewter]

what

[junior marten]

exactly what I said

its like the abomination with the ice rain but theres literally no safe spot and you just die

theres also the big nuke

[pine pewter]

[junior marten]

so how am I supposed to do that

[pine pewter]

for the nuke attack, go inside the Mutant

the thing summons a circle around it and bombs everything outside the circle

[junior marten]

what about the meteor rain?

[maiden cobalt]

can you describe the meteors

what color are they, do you hear a boss noise when he does them, etc

[junior marten]

bunch of scopes horizontally and then rain

they last about half a second

[maiden cobalt]

oh are you being hit with eridanus

[junior marten]

then I die

no this is the mutant

[maiden cobalt]

no i know

[junior marten]

and he covers the entire arena at once

[maiden cobalt]

mutant uses a ton of attacks from a ton of bosses

[junior marten]

its not the eridanus attack

[maiden cobalt]

is it slime rain?