calamity-addon-talk

[gritty galleon]

asgardian aegis over statis sash

and that one thing that goes right before the wings is kinda ass

dunno whyat to use instead tho

but still

just so yk

[proud hamlet]

I was rocking it before, wanted to try out statis sash

[neat nova]

what do you mean by glove btw

[gritty galleon]

you should replace your dash with any deffense or offense accesorie idk

[neat nova]

why seraph and wings of rebirth?

how seraph and wings of rebirth

[gritty galleon]

drop from evil boss 2

[proud hamlet]

Mod

[neat nova]

but im playing spam and the glove is stealth

[gritty galleon]

shift rmb to turn off wings from seraph and you can now use it the yeah blablabla

[proud hamlet]

^

[neat nova]

oh i didnt know that

[proud hamlet]

Movement feels better with yharons so

[gritty galleon]

then get the another evil boss 2 glove

[neat nova]

..also stealth??

[gritty galleon]

on both of the last fights you dont rely on ground movement at all so kinda not worth it

[gritty galleon]

wait lemme check

[frank mauve]

that got me thinking aswell 🤔 why should i even stop at tenlowd when i can go even further 🤯

[neat nova]

both only buff stealth strikes

[frank mauve]

oh ur spam

spam is kinda lam

e

[neat nova]

yeah

[rare atlas]

Is that Goozma armor?

[neat nova]

i mean i can be stealth

i guess

[supple mica]

Yeah yeah. X2 yet?

[frank mauve]

i guess ill check out some spam weapons

and recommend

[frank mauve]

i fear thatll take me around a week to achieve that

[twilit hill]

Rogue spam is boring ngl

[neat nova]

at this stage the weapon for spam vs stealth are basically the same

[neat nova]

i was playing stealth a bit ago

i plan to later too

[twilit hill]

Literally just alternate ranger at that point

[proud hamlet]

No it's auric

[supple mica]

Hah that got me thinking as well! Then you'll be TWO LOWD!

[neat nova]

should i use silencing sheath?

[rare atlas]

Oh Catalyst.

[gritty galleon]

auric + catalyst mod armor

[supple mica]

We may have to turn you down from time to time.

[twilit hill]

Tho early game rogue just go spam

[proud hamlet]

Ye

[gritty galleon]

ye

[twilit hill]

It doesn't make much of a difference

[neat nova]

yeah thats what i was thinking

go stealth later when there is actually good accessories that buff stealth or spam

[frank mauve]

holy shit im looking thru the weapon times and every rogue weapon got S times on skele

like theres lowk not a bad option

[supple mica]

Rogue hard counters Skeletron confirmed.

[frank mauve]

ill list some

[neat nova]

idk its not the damage that im lacking its just that infernum skeletron is really weird

[supple mica]

(Double jump hard counters Skeletron).

[gritty galleon]

skeletron is just a dummy to be countered

[twilit hill]

Low-key most pre hm infernum bosses just needs you to know how to press left and right at the right moment

[supple mica]

Yeah skeletron is probably the one boss that gives all new infernum players that first true sting of pain.

[twilit hill]

ALOT of their attacks can be avoided by moving like 1 block in a direction

And a short jump

[frank mauve]

turbulance - stealth
rot ball - spam/stealth/hybrid
honeycomb - spam/stealth
aerial tracker spam/stealth
feather knife - spam/stealth

now pick whatever

[supple mica]

All 5.

All 5.... AT THE SAME TIME!

[outer creek]

i need a list of weapons to use against scal

[twilit hill]

Like infernum slime god first phase can be countered by

Jumping slightly

[neat nova]

...all of these weapons -honeycomb im already using

alright time to lock in then

[frank mauve]

real talk tho 🤔 will we ever see a twodoomzy

[supple mica]

Infernum Slime God first phase can be skipped entirely by jumping not lightly 😄

[twilit hill]

Or just platforms

[supple mica]

Yea.

[supple mica]

Would you even want to?

[twilit hill]

Even the second phase only hard attack is the fuckass charge

[frank mauve]

feather knife stealth got a sub min skele time

[proud hamlet]

Well this is my setup now, don't know what to throw in last

[frank mauve]

who wouldnt

we need double the jokes double the funny

[gritty galleon]

the amalgam

[frank mauve]

glaze dark sun ring

[proud hamlet]

I already got a dodge for the mirror though

[gritty galleon]

oh

wait

right

[supple mica]

Heh, well. About that xD

[twilit hill]

The sun ring

[gritty galleon]

then idk lol

[frank mauve]

dark sun ring or be based and use spectral veil

[proud hamlet]

Dark sun ring it is

[frank mauve]

[proud hamlet]

OH YEAH spectral veil

[gritty galleon]

*for exo mechs get back to using dash btw

[proud hamlet]

Cool I'm fighting em first

[neat nova]

huh ok

[gritty galleon]

k

[neat nova]

idk about rot ball

[spice frigate]

huh

what's the best mage option vs Yharon

Phantasmal Fury is decent

but there gotta be better

[gritty galleon]

voltatic climax?

[frank mauve]

it pairs so nicely with rampart if u use the iframes after the teleport

[spice frigate]

the magic staff from DOG isn't hit offscreen where he seems to spend 40% of the fight

[frank mauve]

@neat nova

[supple mica]

True mage? Or just mage.

[spice frigate]

?

[gritty galleon]

what could true mage be

only staffs?

[frank mauve]

true mage is true magic

no weapon for fake magic

[supple mica]

Sorry I just wanted someone else to feel the way I do when I say I play melee.

[frank mauve]

imagine being mage and using weapons smh

how weak u gotta be

[spice frigate]

idk

[neat nova]

wheres this from?

[frank mauve]

true mages dont use weapons

[supple mica]

Mage = My enemy is way over there, and I dont wanna use bullets.

[gritty galleon]

so you just make a kill machine for every boss and call it magic

[neat nova]

im going ok with the fight but the one attack where the walls come up (yknow)
i get stunlocked and die

[gritty galleon]

yall what is the most rudicilous calamity challenge yall ever seen

[frank mauve]

u can always screenshare

[supple mica]

Myra Terraria did Infernum Exos with a wooden sword.

[twilit hill]

Move slower during that attack

[supple mica]

I think it took 8 hours.

[twilit hill]

The attack requires like the most minimum movement

[frank mauve]

didnt myra do wooden bow aswell

[twilit hill]

Up until the celling attack

[frank mauve]

wooden bow against scal 🤔

[supple mica]

No, someone else did wooden bow Scal. Some asian guy I believe.

[gritty galleon]

idk who but someone also did exos with sparkling wand only

[twilit hill]

Sounds fun

[supple mica]

Oh it was sparking wand.

Not sword.

That wsa Myra.

[frank mauve]

oh dang

[supple mica]

And yeah, 8 hour fight vs exo mechs.

[frank mauve]

byeah wooden bow was someone else i just found it

[twilit hill]

Low-key forgot what infernum cryogen is even like

Gonna nohit it later today so

[supple mica]

Depends what class you are.

[neat nova]

yoo 12k damage, thats not bad

[twilit hill]

Mage

[frank mauve]

its either the most boring fight or fun fight

[neat nova]

oh yeah trye

[twilit hill]

That thing is getting blasted to hell and back by magic missile

[neat nova]

vc3

[supple mica]

Tmelee loves Cryogen 😄

[proud hamlet]

What rogue weapon should I be using for exo mechs? Because seraphim and wrathwing feel pretty mid

[twilit hill]

I don't aim I just let the projectile home on it

[frank mauve]

i personally like the sound of fast shooting weapons hitting cryo

[supple mica]

Same.

[frank mauve]

they for sure do

[supple mica]

Cryo ASMR.

[frank mauve]

wait

we got ale now

massive + ale + that melee size accessory

[twilit hill]

Oh wait a minute

[supple mica]

Gauntlet?

[frank mauve]

titan glove

[twilit hill]

Doing a nohit run means I can just

[frank mauve]

yeah titan glove upgrades

[twilit hill]

Get every single alcohol in the entire game

At once

[frank mauve]

ima try it now

[twilit hill]

And kill everything in seconds

[supple mica]

That glove thing that the melee people use.

[twilit hill]

Since I die in one hit anyway

[jagged parcel]

its been a long time since i've done rogue but iirc the new Dimension-Tearing Disk is really good. idk if its viable for Exos

[frank mauve]

mech gauntlet is post mechs obviously and fire gauntlet is post golem

[supple mica]

Ahhh yess, show us your BIGGEST sword!

[frank mauve]

give me 1min

[twilit hill]

Kinda annoying that alcohols can only be crafted with blood orb tho

To make 30 stacks of all I had to grind like thousands upon thousands of blood orb last playthrough

[neat nova]

yeahhh

just had to get gud

[supple mica]

Infernum makes that a bit easier.

[neat nova]

who might this be

[gritty galleon]

me

[supple mica]

That's Lowd.

Donator NPC.

[frank mauve]

theres NO way this isnt hitting cryogen

[supple mica]

LOL!

[frank mauve]

this is basically hardmode dragon rage

[supple mica]

CLOWD STRIFE! AHAHA!

[proud hamlet]

Nah I tried it and it's also meh, I guess imma just rock with seraphim

[twilit hill]

Use night edge at that point

[frank mauve]

did u try dynamic pursuer

[frank mauve]

less range

[proud hamlet]

Let me try that

[frank mauve]

im trying out other melee weapons and they look so small

once u go big u cant go back!

[neat nova]

are there any dungeon rogue weapons?

[supple mica]

Oh dear.

[gritty galleon]

i feel like true melee might be easier than melee

[frank mauve]

shinobi

[gritty galleon]

you just

dont overthink about what if im using wrong weapon wroung accesorie aaa

you just

you died? skill issue try again

thats all

nothing else

[frank mauve]

wait does celestial shell increase melee size

i need every melee size boost

[gritty galleon]

idk

[twilit hill]

I mean basically the nohit playthrough experience

[supple mica]

I do not believe it does.

[neat nova]

where do you get that from?

[twilit hill]

You die you just try again

[frank mauve]

so its just melee speed

[gritty galleon]

nohits was fun and i made it to wof but then my steam wiped out all data from tmod

so uh

[frank mauve]

who cares about speed when u can go big

[supple mica]

Crit, dmg, speed. Not size.

[frank mauve]

drops from those blue magic skeleton i believe

[gritty galleon]

i only know that theres alcohol thats decreases speed but adds range but i think ur already using it

[frank mauve]

yep ale

[supple mica]

If you can't go big, speed is nice I guess.

[frank mauve]

no one cares about making it big anymore

[supple mica]

If you have a dick like a needle, fuck like a sewing machine!

[frank mauve]

i dont think uve said 1 bad joke honestly

[supple mica]

[neat nova]

wait what?? they removed the ankh shield from the asguards valor?

[frank mauve]

ye its useless

[neat nova]

brooo

is the enchanted axe any good for stealth or nah

man they should have added a dash to the ankh shield, now its useless

[proud hamlet]

Yeah that's the weapon, though thanatos screws me up when he's the 3rd guy

[supple mica]

@frank mauve Oh wait Calamity has weapon size on some armors!

[frank mauve]

now were talking

[supple mica]

15% I think is best.

[twilit hill]

It was pretty useful in my masodeath run

[frank mauve]

i think ill have to load up armors on recipe browser and possibly crash my pc

[round lichen]

does the new calamity not work with infernum?

[frank mauve]

i honestly forget what melts thana as rogue

[supple mica]

That's a whole freakin 1.35 for me.

[twilit hill]

Due to masochist making bosses inflict 3 quadrillion debuffs

[supple mica]

Ok I will see myself out 😄

[proud hamlet]

I think wrathwing is the best bet

[frank mauve]

is it even possible to die in hardmode

i think ive tanked around 40 cryo hits

[gritty galleon]

i thought i was listening to stained brutal calamity on repeat until i realized i was still watching this chinese boy fight scal with wooden bow

[frank mauve]

have a good one !

[supple mica]

I was kidding.

Cuz it was a lewwwwd joke. I'm not actually goin nowhere.

[floral epoch]

seraphim?

[proud hamlet]

Nah it didn't, wrathwing was doing the trick though

[supple mica]

Hmm I actually cant find anything else that does melee size. Just glove accessory line and reforge. I thought I saw it on armor before, but perhaps not!

[frank mauve]

yeah i just loaded up recipe browser armor section (almost crashed) and didnt find anything about melee size

[supple mica]

You playin' on a toaster!?

[frank mauve]

oh cmon

anything runs fine beside that damn armor section

they even know smh

[supple mica]

Ohhh you mean that thing that takes 8 years to load for everybody that I never use anymore.

"Many seconds"

Like yeah ok bruh.

[frank mauve]

i sentence your pc to open armor section 5 times in a row!

[supple mica]

Please don't!

[frank mauve]

its either cyberpunk on release or armor section

you choose.

[supple mica]

Ya know, I still haven't hopped onto Cyberpunk, even after they made it better.

Either way, I am choosing the hidden 3rd option.

[round lichen]

guys does wrath of the machines and old gods break the new calamity update?

[supple mica]

Shouldn't. Wrath was updated.

[frank mauve]

always thinking outside the box

[supple mica]

Machines and Gods, that is.

[frank mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[round lichen]

dang why is my calamity still bugging? I dont have the new boss stuff + some of the weapon changes

[supple mica]

Hmm, did it even update for you I am wondering then.

[round lichen]

It didd

[supple mica]

Steam workshop has this funny way of being not funny like that.

[round lichen]

but for some reason it wont work

see

[supple mica]

Ok yea you are up to date it appears.

[round lichen]

i already removed a bunch of other mods that might interfere

[gritty galleon]

on my way to open terraria just to open armor sets

[supple mica]

I will say this, I am very much not an expert on things that are supposed to be working, but just aren't.

[outer creek]

hows the mage build for scal

[round lichen]

does cheat sheet and heros mod interfere with it?

[supple mica]

I'm better at things that aren't supposed to be working, but could be.

[round lichen]

aight ill try turning it off

[frank mauve]

"defense is dead" 238 def on fucking hallowed armor

[gritty galleon]

what is accesorie after talisman

[frank mauve]

eye of the golem

oh wait no

isnt that dragon scales

ok no

might be eye of golem with a texture pack

[maiden cobalt]

what class is this for

[frank mauve]

ranger

need for drata

[maiden cobalt]

Grape Beer strats?

[frank mauve]

oh yeah grape beer could work

[supple mica]

Rang*r

[frank mauve]

but drata already has small homing

[maiden cobalt]

Purity disables crits and Grape Beer already drops your crits

so you basically just have homing stuff

[supple mica]

Hah! Can't drop my crit if I don't have any!

Sucker!

[twilit hill]

Why hallowed-

[supple mica]

Hallowd armor.

[maiden cobalt]

dodge i guess?

[frank mauve]

im using drataliornus

it builds up but if u get hit once u lose the damage

but if u use dodges then that doesnt happen

[twilit hill]

Why not use a evade accessories instead of just abandoning the auric set boost

Oh you have one

They stack?

[maiden cobalt]

does it count shields as damage

if so you could prob get Profaned Artifact or whatever its called

and Spog

[frank mauve]

wouldnt wanna waste accessory slots on those

[frank mauve]

hallowed dodge and universal dodges do yes

[maiden cobalt]

oh right you have amal thats a dodge

[twilit hill]

I'm gonna have 0 defense after I get my hands on alcohol in the nohit playthrough

[maiden cobalt]

why Purity

[twilit hill]

Oh yeah if you don't plan on getting hit then why the purity

Or nanomachine for that matters

[maiden cobalt]

unless you're red potioning and occult skul crown is for that

[twilit hill]

Nanomachine is one of the most broken defensive item I've ever seen

I forgor the name

Actually it overwrite andrenaline too

Why are you using it with a build that relies entirely on not getting hit-

[gritty galleon]

i dunno

[proud hamlet]

YESSIR

[frank mauve]

tbh it works great with drata cuz i barely got crit

[proud hamlet]

WOOOOOO

[gritty galleon]

w

[frank mauve]

u can get hit

[long stone]

Never use point exchange shop mod

[maiden cobalt]

why does it work

[proud hamlet]

I will take it

[maiden cobalt]

the Debuff Reducer

[twilit hill]

Yeah but not getting hit and building up andrenaline sounds better does it not

[frank mauve]

and with that high def the normal dodge cd is lower

[gritty galleon]

yo

[maiden cobalt]

or, buffer while debuffed

is it not called Purity

Radiance

[gritty galleon]

is there any addon thats makes infernum able on master

[maiden cobalt]

its called Radiance

why Radiance

[frank mauve]

getting hit and triggering the dodge doesnt remove the adrenaline

[gritty galleon]

cuz its radiancing

[twilit hill]

I mean the nano heart

[maiden cobalt]

the nanohearts adrenaline cant be removed

[twilit hill]

That thing disable andrenaline for nanomachine bar

[twilit hill]

It just heals

[frank mauve]

oh yeah draedon heart

[gritty galleon]

using hard in late game kinda not worth it

[frank mauve]

its just there for defense

[proud hamlet]

First time holding this bad boy, nice.

[maiden cobalt]

what debuffs do you have applied

[twilit hill]

It literally removed the ability to use andrenaline

[maiden cobalt]

are they the occult skull crown thingy

[twilit hill]

Well the proper andrenaline

[frank mauve]

yeah occult crown is there for that

[twilit hill]

Why not use like community if you want CRIT

[maiden cobalt]

i see

what debuffs do you have

are they from Red Potion or just diff debuffs

[frank mauve]

reddddd

wait what if i drink lava chicken for the funny

[frank mauve]

cuz community suck

[gritty galleon]

bro they look so cool

[proud hamlet]

That's a big gun..

[twilit hill]

Atleast it doesn't removes the andrenaline bar

[maiden cobalt]

would that even work

[frank mauve]

atp ill just use dark sun ring over dheart

dsr got more defense anyway

[twilit hill]

Anything but the heart

Since the build is one that relies on not getting hit for full potential

[frank mauve]

this was just an old build i picked back up

cuz old draedon heart had 48 def

[maiden cobalt]

What

whyd it nearly have 50 fuckin defense

nearly had a whole piece of Demonshade

[twilit hill]

Yeah draedon heart was NOT balanced back in the days

Free healing that can't be lost on hit

[supple mica]

"Nanomachines, son" 😭

[frank mauve]

is this even calamity

[maiden cobalt]

jesus christ no wonder i struggled on mutant with that

i remembered it healing 360

i had like 1400 so it went from healing abt 20% of my health to maybe less than 10%

[twilit hill]

Still don't get why some random ass crystals from the sunken sea can become a source of infinite energy

[maiden cobalt]

refraction or soemthing

[twilit hill]

Use some forces at that point why the heart

Fargo accessories after you get the crucible is so strong it's not even funny

[gritty galleon]

yo

is there any like

ultra glass cannon build

s

on melee

on scal

[twilit hill]

Have you ever heard of alcohols

[gritty galleon]

cuz i just wanna skip her

[twilit hill]

Most of them reduces HP and def for pretty significant buffs

[gritty galleon]

hmmm

[twilit hill]

Unfortunately the npc that sells alcohol is uhhhh

[maiden cobalt]

i had Everything

Cal Souls

it was part of i think Brand of Brimstone Witch

[supple mica]

Could be gifts from their deities. Likely actually.

[maiden cobalt]

i cheesed him with the Phantarye glitch

[gritty galleon]

it says 25% more damage but nothing changed yo

[twilit hill]

Oh yeah I forgot mutant just fucking disable most enchanments

[gritty galleon]

im borredddd

what do ido

[frank mauve]

why skip her

shes fun

[gritty galleon]

i just want the gael greatsword

the sprite is sexy

js want to test it on exo mechs and thats all

wotm exo mechs

[jagged parcel]

its a deathmode SCal drop isnt it?

[gritty galleon]

wdym

[jagged parcel]

were you asking how to get it?

[gritty galleon]

no i just want to get it

[jagged parcel]

go get it brosif

[gritty galleon]

i am gonna

later

im lazy to fight scal

i have no motivation

the sexy sprite isnt enough

[frank mauve]

but scal is so fun to fight 😿

[steep cobalt]

all of the alcohols have been reworked

[supple mica]

Wait a tick, is Infernum locked out of death mode drops now or was that covered?

[gritty galleon]

no

[steep cobalt]

ask javyz

[frank mauve]

well.....

i just beat scal

lets see if i get gael!

[gritty galleon]

you will

[frank mauve]

spoilers: i didnt

[steep cobalt]

[jagged parcel]

oh really?

[frank mauve]

inf is expert

expert is rev

[steep cobalt]

feel free to broach that to javyz

[spice frigate]

wow

Yharon is like

[gritty galleon]

yeah so

[spice frigate]

old duke

[gritty galleon]

we need

the

[frank mauve]

gael is shit who cares

[gritty galleon]

infernum

[spice frigate]

but even less fun

[gritty galleon]

master

patch

please

[frank mauve]

gael needs a buff asap

[supple mica]

I was merely wondering on a mechanical basis, not for any specific item in question.

[jagged parcel]

yeah to be fair the new Orderbringer kinda does the same thing but better

[spice frigate]

I don't mind ramdash slop, but offscreen ramdash slop with elden ring delay timing is zzzzzzzzzzzz

[gritty galleon]

you know what actually needs buff?

[supple mica]

Its not like death is dripping with exlusive goop.

[gritty galleon]

fucking exo blade

[frank mauve]

well turns out youre right

[gritty galleon]

nvm

i mean

freedom star

[frank mauve]

i got 3:10 on scal with exoblade

[gritty galleon]

the weapon that only 1.5 people knows

[frank mauve]

its oretty good

[frank mauve]

nah even compared to some other melee weapons its just not that good

and losing rage?

yeah count me out

[woven rune]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-mackie-laugh-try-not-to-laugh-anthony-laugh-gif-4264565357610009154

midxoblade 👍

[wise cairn]

exoblade was atrocious when i was using it

[jagged parcel]

so excited to test Orderbringer on something like pre-Exos/SCal Goozma

[woven rune]

exoblade is ass

[frank mauve]

cant expect a homing weapon to have good damage compared to like ataraxia

obviously i got a better time using ataraxia but i had to aim

[woven rune]

it does worse than the other homing options lol

[wise cairn]

ataraxia also wasn't good when i was using it on cal 😭

[woven rune]

Orderbringer, Spine of Thanatos, fuckin Zenith even

[jagged parcel]

i always thought it was pretty good? i always run it for SCal because its consistent

[frank mauve]

ataraxia got 2:39 for scal

[wise cairn]

i think it was changed

[gritty galleon]

show the build

[woven rune]

it is consistent

its just not strong

[frank mauve]

just puritymaxx 🤑

and tmelee abuse

[gritty galleon]

god

[frank mauve]

u gotta treat ataraxia as a true melee weapon

[wise cairn]

ok to be fair i was using it before i finally decided to reforge my accessories to all menacing because i actually had the money and had phased it out of my kit beforehand

[frank mauve]

or just use devil devastation and get 5:00

[gritty galleon]

me having 4 minutes run just on her first phase with exoblade

[frank mauve]

skill issue i think

[gritty galleon]

how

[frank mauve]

treat it as tmelee and use the m2

tmelee is king

lowk u can one shot ares with devil devastation

[gritty galleon]

how

[wise cairn]

tmelee was insane the couple of times i tried it during my most recent playthru

was getting 70-80k on orderbringer tmelee

[frank mauve]

stack the projectiles on 4 arms then m2

[floral epoch]

wtf

[little steppe]

every day I see more and more true melee enjoyers

and that fills my heart with joy

🥹

[frank mauve]

sub 3min scal with tmelee
https://youtu.be/FdveqXTvTow?si=0LaFqqTt6YfOlfWO

[wise cairn]

tmelee is goated when you know what you're doing

[gritty galleon]

the fuckass scorched earth still has more damage btw

[frank mauve]

well its a tmelee vid

[wise cairn]

skipped an entire phase 😭

[gritty galleon]

yea

just sayin

[frank mauve]

u can get much faster if u use mage and summoner tho

[frank mauve]

dragon rage things

[floral epoch]

e
you have a clip of scorched earth on yharon?

[frank mauve]

nop

it wasnt really as interesting for me to record it

[floral epoch]

:<

[supple mica]

Hehe! Yer a pink pumpkin queen slime of apocalyptic power.

[frank mauve]

the pumpkin shirt kinda worked well for it 🤔

[neat nova]

huh

[supple mica]

Yeah its a bug, it just needs the Starlit Forge to make them.

[neat nova]

ah ok

... how do i get that

[supple mica]

Its late game.

Post-Exo mechs.

Once you get it you can make unlimited Tier 4 food. Which is the best food in the game until Lowd invents tier 5 for me.

[neat nova]

oh ok

[frank mauve]

looks pretty accurate id say 🤔

holy shit heavenly gale is dead

[wise cairn]

i can confidently say that most of the miracle matter weapons are mid to ass after this upd

besides supernova

i have a feeling it's still insane

[elder nebula]

nothing changed though

[frank mauve]

i havent tried supernova yet

scorched earth still isnt as fast on scal compared to pre 2.1 mage x summoner

[elder nebula]

scorched earth is a rocket launcher

[frank mauve]

and it can deal 100k dps to scal

it melts yharon, exos and scal

[elder nebula]

yeah but
it's ranged
not mage or summoner

[frank mauve]

but this is about speedkills

classes dont matter when its about the fastest time

[wise cairn]

sure feels like it 😭

[elder nebula]

the only miracle weapons that haven't been shit for years are exoblade, photoviscerator, supernova and maybe subsuming vortex

[frank mauve]

where heavenly gale

[elder nebula]

mid

[frank mauve]

heavenly gale with old daawnlight and qon had like 40k+ minimum

[gusty ferry]

spam shot?

[proud hamlet]

Dang

[frank mauve]

yeah 40k dps on scal without charging up

[proud hamlet]

That giant ghost suddenly changed its movements no idea it was gonna do that

[gusty ferry]

aint no way

[frank mauve]

it homed into the daawnlight crit boost and with qon its basically free 75% dmg

[proud hamlet]

Hey is seraphim the best choice for rogue against SCAL? Other than supernova for the worm and the twins

Since it has homing and all

[frank mauve]

theres dreamtastic

[gusty ferry]

dreamtastic

[gusty ferry]

wow

[frank mauve]

byeah seraphim is my go to for scal

or final dawn

i like final dawn

[proud hamlet]

Oh right the other yharon weapon?

[gusty ferry]

i only used charged shot and it's like 100k~120k if i hit all qon

the kill time is still ass

[proud hamlet]

REAL rogue weapons, so seraphim and final dawn got it

[frank mauve]

yeah dreamtastic isnt real

[frank mauve]

weird

heavenly was broken for me back then

did u even run full crit

[lucid finch]

does the infernum multiplayer make the bosses harder cause theres multiple people? or do the boss hp pools stay the same. cause im doing a 2p run rn and everying is super easy compared to solo so far.

[gusty ferry]

stealth atom splitter is good if you can aim

[gusty ferry]

i have no idea

[frank mauve]

got 2:05 scal with mage and summoner

ig its still great

[indigo patio]

Yes however it's not 1:1 so if the boss had 1000 hp before it's probably only like 1600 with 2.
Plus the AI is really only meant for 1 person so its easier due to agro

[gusty ferry]

reveries still broken as hell 🙏

[frank mauve]

nvm its not washed 🙏

dont even need odd shrooms (i know they removed the boost)

[gusty ferry]

half the fight is the dsp phase wtf

[wise cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-mackie-laugh-try-not-to-laugh-anthony-laugh-gif-4264565357610009154

[frank mauve]

technically most of the fight is the dsp

[gusty ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181117483260850226/1458372280190107802/togif.gif?ex=6960b806&is=695f6686&hm=11c2a024c52149fea815fad64c0f01488b3002a7b37e01fffd3957ac0e794b75&

[blissful fulcrum]

using the loot magnet from wof

eh why not

[gaunt quail]

2 mins scal??

[mortal marlin]

what kinda stuff do i need to fight avatar of emptiness
im running shadowspec gear and tainted legendary oathrbinger

[frank mauve]

correct

[mild cove]

adamantite glaive kinda tuff

[frank mauve]

3 tesla 1 plasma might be better 🤔

[frank mauve]

yoo same time lol

[mild cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381899918880538634/1404665146260848650/ezgif-100a937dd7521e.gif

[mortal marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/memories-of-murder-bong-joon-ho-movies-cinematography-stare-gif-27559676

[mortal marlin]

brooo

what is that

oh my days

ugliest thing my eyes have fallen on this month

eeeeuf

[heady valley]

what addon adds the most balanced post moonlord whips

[elder nebula]

it looks like ai but i can't prove it

[frank mauve]

i wonder if i use eye of magnus i can take it even lower

[supple mica]

It's Lowd's mog, and I kinda dig it actually xD

[mortal marlin]

it is rotund

[frank mauve]

i guess eye of magnus can save u 1 sec

huge

[supple mica]

[vapid berry]

tung tung tung sahur

[supple mica]

Heh the yellow things look like crunchy chow mein noodles.

[vapid berry]

why is exos harder

[vapid berry]

my game crashed

can i close it

[mild cove]

yo i have been fighting aureus enraged for the past 20 minutes

fml

i forgot to switch back to the infernum bossbar

was playing vanilla earlier

[blissful fulcrum]

my summons keep despawning for whatever reason, anyone has an idea why ?

[prime forge]

Tbh I dont know why calamity so laggy sometimes

Especially with infernum

It just decrease my fps

[blissful fulcrum]

performance could be better fs

my summons despawning is just fun

[mild cove]

was really hard tmelee but i found a cool strat

you can iframe his lasers with a ram

the spread arc lasers

it's either iframing or just narrowly dodging the hitboxes

because he doesnt do contact damage during that attack

[jolly birch]

dude fuck yes

genuinely a crazy fight, loved it

my only issue is that it needs to be summoned in the astral infection which means the terrain can fuck you up hard

[neat nova]

why is the sun mad at me

https://klipy.com/gifs/activate-windows-windows

[mild cove]

so fucking fun as tmelee

i slept on hellkite for aureus

but the hit and run utility is great

[lilac barn]

Wotg

You need to kill the avatar

I’m actually on the fence on Wotg

[jolly birch]

wow the catalyst drops suck

[lilac barn]

It’s cool but I’m disappointed in the manner in which it hijacks the progression

[plush terrace]

anyway to improve the loadout for tmelee inf skeletron?

[little steppe]

so many Tmelee enjoyers 🥹

anyways kill SoC for magiluminescense

and maybe upgrade boots but thats not really 100% necessary

[primal anvil]

what melee weapon should I run for infernum yharon?

I am using essence flayer but I feel like there's better options I am missing

[edgy tusk]

can u play wrath of the god in multiplayer ?

[primal anvil]

it's glitchy from what I know, like you can't fight ND cuz of sub-world library

[tranquil yarrow]

It's a very "It tried/10" experience.

[tranquil yarrow]

But yeah mostly that.

[primal anvil]

fought bereft vasal with a friend and it didn't give us the rewards

[tranquil yarrow]

Avatar surprisingly works for how much shit it throws at you though lol

[edgy tusk]

sub world library dont work in multiplayer?

[primal anvil]

yeah cuz everything happens in your own world lmao

like the vortex realm isn't a sub-world tp, it's a special map zone

[tranquil yarrow]

Well even discounting that like surely collision would break or something by virtue of having a second player existing lmfao

[primal anvil]

anyways I forgot what good melee weapons were for Infernum Yharon

essence flayer failing on me rn

[tranquil yarrow]

Me too I only know of like, Essence Flayer, Exelcus and Orderbringer.

I've not played melee.

[primal anvil]

excelsus is no more

they killed our boy

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh yeah Enforcer and Phaseslayer yeah fuck those two.

[primal anvil]

our boy excelsus is long gone

it's now called maw of infinity and I doubt it's even good for infernum yharon

[tranquil yarrow]

I mean I heard it performed okay enough.

Nothing stellar but you could do worse.

[primal anvil]

also orderbringer is post-yharon

man

[tranquil yarrow]

Did not know they moved it unfortunate.

[primal anvil]

time to run essence flayer for the next 2 hours

possibly

usually takes me like 50 attempts to beat inf yharon

[left kite]

what is this this scared the absolute hell out of me

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh yeah Murasama I can't believe I forgot the most hype weapon.

That and Cosmic Discharge.

[primal anvil]

Avatar of Emptiness

that is the uh fog storm or whatver it was called

I forgor

LOL

[plush terrace]

Man I forgot how fast magiluminescence made you it’s kinda crazy

[left kite]

is he gonna spawn is this just like anticipation

[primal anvil]

you can find living trees and YOURSELF if you look hard enough

nah it's just some random event

that happens only after DoG

rarely

I get it like only once every world

it dissipates shortly after tho

you can just stand still and do nothing and it will be gone

[plush terrace]

Is the auger the best tmelee for skeletron now?

[maiden cobalt]

wait living trees

[primal anvil]

yeah trees suddenly come alive some times

[maiden cobalt]

i always find myself i never find "living trees"

[primal anvil]

there's like

only ONE

of those

per event

I've never found two in one event

I don't know their actual name

I call em living trees or mimic trees

cuz they try to blend in

[maiden cobalt]

i mean wahts also possible is that every time it happens, im often building a yharon arena

which, pre 2.1, was almost always partially underground

[primal anvil]

lmao I just go to the beach and boom

sky arena

build up a wall for the fire walls

and I am set

[tranquil yarrow]

My arenas were always so scuffed for DoG up to Exos.

Always had like 4 long platforms in the sky and called it a day.

[wise cairn]

it worked tho and that's what mattered 🤣

[tranquil yarrow]

True.

[primal anvil]

we love world arenas

[tranquil yarrow]

Majority of my deaths are definitely an arena issue tho lmfao

Oh it was barely even a quarter of the world.

Like at most I'd slap 4 mini instabridges together usually 3.

[primal anvil]

It happened to me one time I was about to build my arena for EoC and then it decided to spawn right as I was building it

it was annoying to try and build while having the stupid eye follow you lmao

[tranquil yarrow]

At that point you just gotta run the fade lol

Sometimes I just do it no platform and just ground.

[primal anvil]

did kill the eye however and build my arena at the same time

[tranquil yarrow]

Nice nice :>

[vapid berry]

can you not use exo chair against scal infernum

[wise cairn]

gotta use wings

no exo box for you

[tranquil yarrow]

Didn't they shift that mount post game?

'Sides you're only allowed to sit on the throne for a single frame before being booted out.

[primal anvil]

you still can I think in like souls dlc, although it literally makes it 50% slower

[tranquil yarrow]

If you really want the crutch you can mash the mount key with an auto clicker but otherwise just git gud.

[primal anvil]

which is definitely not entirely viable but usable if you're just that guy

[tranquil yarrow]

T'is 40 iirc.

[primal anvil]

but I def prefer mountless scal

[tranquil yarrow]

Honestly I like the slower chair. Makes for good building mount.

[wise cairn]

mountless scal for infernum

exo box for death mode tho

the brothers is HELL (at least in my melee playthru) without it

[primal anvil]

I still run mountless scal no matter the mode lol

[solar crow]

FRICK YES HOLY CRAP, 120 attempts on SCal before i got her to desperation

[wise cairn]

i think it's because i was doing pissant DPS so i wasn't killing them fast enough so they had all of the opportunities to kick my teeth in

[solar crow]

wait do you use exo chair when ur fighting non infernum SCal

[primal anvil]

no

I prefer mountless by a mile

[mortal marlin]

whats like the most optimal hp loadout im at 1300 endgame rn

[solar crow]

damn... thats prolly the weirdest neigh coolest prefrence

[wise cairn]

i've definitely beaten scal on death without the exo box, this playthru was different tho 😅

[tranquil yarrow]

I used to run pogo but they shot my boy dead in the water :(

[primal anvil]

it's probably cuz I've been using slime saddle or pogo stick for so long that I just prefer those two

[tranquil yarrow]

At least we still got slimy saddle but like, it's not the same.

[wise cairn]

the humble gelatinous pillion:

[solar crow]

well ofc, but that fight is really really hard, and exo chair gives a busted amount of peace during the fight so not using it is a lot harder

[primal anvil]

I am just too used to the flight speed atp, usually 2-3 try death mode scal and it takes me like 10 tries for infernum scal

somehow yharon is harder for me

[wise cairn]

insane 😭

[primal anvil]

prob cuz I hate dashes

LOL

[tranquil yarrow]

I can't dashslop on yharon's level </3

[wise cairn]

death mode yharon is a pushover and infernum yharon is piss easy because when i fight him i'm still high off of the adrenaline that DoG gave me during his fight

so the dashes are suuuper easy

[tranquil yarrow]

Really showed when I did low tiers only cuz good god my endurace was straight buns.

[primal anvil]

I just straight up hate ram dashing so much

[solar crow]

yahron is so easy in comparison to SCal imo. i did tho play the bird 130 times in revengence so im used to it

[primal anvil]

fair

[solar crow]

lowkey ignore ram dashing when fighting yahron

[tranquil yarrow]

I would hope revengance yharon is easy lmao

[primal anvil]

just fly

that's

literally yharon

you just fly

and you dodge it

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah pretty much.

[solar crow]

yeah well i did go full glasscannon mage and it was my 3rd playthrough of the game

[primal anvil]

we love full menacing zero defense accessories

[sinful temple]

iron boots are awesome

[tranquil yarrow]

God basecal boss design is such an enigma.

How did this mod survive with this man </3

[solar crow]

dimensional soul artifact gives me peace and ptsd at the same time

can anyone relate?

[tranquil yarrow]

I've never used it surprisingly.

Don't think I've heard of it until now actually.

[sinful temple]

deal big damage but take big damage

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah that's what I'm getting out of the wiki entry.

Not beating the calamity players being unable to read allegations though.

I misread that as 12% instead of 1.2x damage for a bit lol

[sinful temple]

happens

[fathom leaf]

is Wrath of the gods multiplayer compatible?

[wise cairn]

no

solyn doesn't work, the boss fights are unplayable, and the world effects bug out a TON

also take wrath of the gods' lag problem and double it

for each player in the world

[fathom leaf]

wait, so it causes lag too, and doesnt even work? are they all not spawnable in multiplayer?

[wise cairn]

WotG causes lag in singleplayer on lower end devices and is known for that

and many of the boss effects (such as teleportation in AoE) bug horribly

solyn also has a wide range of bugs

from bugging outside of the map and being inaccessible to just not spawning at all

so it's a big no-no if you're trying to do multiplayer

[fathom leaf]

i for example tried doing the Mars boss, in multiplayer it didnt work. in singleplayer i could spawn him, but after sometime he got stunned permanently. i heard its supposed to be a damage window, but i can only deal 1 damage, and the RMB LMB attack doesnt work, so i basically couldnt do it

[wise cairn]

yes

there's another bug where you just can't do anything

[fathom leaf]

is that from wotg?

[wise cairn]

you're stuck in the black and white screen with the "hold LMB and RMB" prompt and actually holding those buttons does nothing

yes

[fathom leaf]

this is my first calamity playthrough, and i had a lot of trouble already. My world seems really cooked (Its my fault because i just ruined it looks wise with fargos etc.), do you think i should just make a new one and rush through the bosses? i killed all of them legit, and its just for the world

[wise cairn]

if it fixes your issues sure

if you're at mars you're basically done with the game

[fathom leaf]

because now i have to split up with my friend because the bosses dont work, so we both do em in singleplayer. you get what i mean?

[wise cairn]

DO bring the genesis with you though

[wise cairn]

i did this with my friend, so i do get what you mean

[fathom leaf]

The genesis?

[wise cairn]

the seeds

[fathom leaf]

wont solyn give me them?

like since its a new world and all

[wise cairn]

honestly

i think you might need to cheat them in

from what i've heard your playthrough is so busted that nothing has worked as it should

[fathom leaf]

if its not obtainable, i dont mind. I lost a save because my game crashed and it didnt auto save. I lost like 6h of progress, and cheated it back in

[fathom leaf]

a bunch of bosses didnt work in infernum, not wotg fault, but still- another bug that annoyed us in the run

i just had to do death on some, and infernum on some, so weird

[wise cairn]

yeah whenever i did addon boss playthroughs i just set it to death mode

and i played infernum with no other addons

and will be doing it again without any extra boss addons

[fathom leaf]

fair

[quiet jacinth]

what melee weapon should i be using for infernum golem?

[junior reef]

Solyn literally killed my server I had to roll it back 3 hours lol

[wise cairn]

solyn's the best NPC until you click that multiplayer button

then she becomes more destructive than AoE

[junior reef]

is it just not possible to use her in multiplayer?

[wise cairn]

no

unless you get that seed bag

[junior reef]

What seed bag

[wise cairn]

exotic seed bag

only craftable if you load a world that was created and loaded with wrath of the gods before the 1.2 update that added avatar of emptiness

[junior reef]

What does that seed bag do and how does it make solyn playable lol

I could cheat the item in if it'll fix it

[junior reef]

what if I interact with solyn on singleplayer first?

[wise cairn]

you'll have to kill every questline-related boss in singleplayer

and even then the boss fights are buggy as shit when you finally get to them

[junior reef]

what does the seed bag do

[wise cairn]

just gives you the seeds required to spawn avatar of emptiness

frostblessed, antiseed, synthetic, blazing bud

[warm lodge]

how can i beat goozma, aka a shitty made boss that had no creativity

he keeps dissapearing even tho theres still a player alive

[lone raven]

Best melee weapon for infernum Scal?

[wise cairn]

just experiment ig

i haven't done melee infernum in a hot minute so idk how the new changes work in the infernum fight

dragon rage for sepulcher 100% tho

[maiden cobalt]

orderbringers prob alr

Drage for the hearts

[wise cairn]

i lowkey hate goozma now because it has an attack that drops my fps to 2 and it's bugged and will heal all 2 million of its health instantly when i get it low

[warm lodge]

i think goozma is bugged

[wise cairn]

yes

[warm lodge]

is he supposed to bypass 180 defense and do like 800 damage in the span of 5 seconds

[wise cairn]

he has an attack where he summons minions that should heal him for like 20k each

they heal him for 10x that

[wise cairn]

defense damage

(maybe)

[warm lodge]

im saying hes impossible

he has undodgable attacks which just mean that the creatoor isnt that bright

[maiden cobalt]

are you getting hit a lot

[wise cairn]

sure feels like it after whatever update they dropped most recently

[maiden cobalt]

specify

[junior reef]

Lol

[warm lodge]

yes cause theres nothing i can do

[maiden cobalt]

i havent played it since i know of it as Not Incredible

but most every attack should be dodgaed

[wise cairn]

to summarize what's been added

[warm lodge]

he has a slime that can pin you down for like 6 seconds while goozma dusitifes you

[wise cairn]

black hole attack that looks like nameless's old black hole

that also kills your fps

[maiden cobalt]

that Can

[warm lodge]

he also has a beam attack thats bigger than your screen and does like 400 dps

and also bypasses defense

[maiden cobalt]

you prob gotta shmove around ot

[warm lodge]

he also can shoot light beam attacks that are undodgable

your gauranteed to get hit atleast 20 times

cause wings are shitty

[maiden cobalt]

is goozma not a auric tier boss

[warm lodge]

he is

[maiden cobalt]

your wings should be pretty damn good

[warm lodge]

he is legit harder than exo mechs and supreme MUCH harder

[maiden cobalt]

then fight those two first

[warm lodge]

i alr did bruh

[wise cairn]

i think WotG retiers goozma to post scal/exos

[warm lodge]

but i need to kill goozma to get the stupid shadow spec

[wise cairn]

and hunt of the old god also locks shadowspec gear

[warm lodge]

thats stupid imo

[warm lodge]

whichs wings exactly tho

[maiden cobalt]

Wings of Rebirth or Seraph Tracers

[wise cairn]

dunno bout yall but seraph tracers are my ride or die

[warm lodge]

yeah i have them both but compared to goozmas attacks your basiclly a snail

[wise cairn]

all of the tracers are

[sly patio]

nooo ive done it nohit

[warm lodge]

liar

[wise cairn]

except for infernum DoG

[sly patio]

my tip is to move alot less if you are losing

everything that is forced to hit you doesnt do dmg

[warm lodge]

i use these things for the goozma fight

[warm lodge]

how am i supposed to dodge the slimes

[sly patio]

the red ones that fall after you get grabbed?

[warm lodge]

idk i thoink so

[wise cairn]

the best way i can describe goozma is what fighting infernum exo mechs felt like for the firs ttime

it feels like you're supposed to move around a lot but you're not

[sly patio]

its overwhelming on purpouse but its learnable

[wise cairn]

exactly what exos felt like to me

still can't fckin fight goozma though because of his PC killing black hole

[sly patio]

if its that one the you can go above the big red slime then dodge when it comes back up if you have a ram dash or you can dodge to the left or right and fly up it shows where they come down

[warm lodge]

dude why does goozma leave when theres still a player alive

is goozma this much of a fatass

can he not move around

[wise cairn]

he only schmooves when you get him to 2nd phase

[warm lodge]

idk what shmooves

is

[sly patio]

moves

[wise cairn]

he can dash in second phase

[warm lodge]

yeah he did go to 2nd phase

but the problem is that everytime the player that he is targetting dies he just leaves

even tho theres still someone alive

[wise cairn]

the terraria multiplayer experience

dunno how ur not used to something like that yet

[sly patio]

ngl that could be a multiplayer bug ive never fought goozma on mp

[warm lodge]

no its hunt of the old god being a mid mod

[wise cairn]

no, it's multiplayer.

[warm lodge]

this doesnt happen with other bosses

only goozma

[wise cairn]

plantera does it

skeletron does it

so does prime

slime god does it

ravager used to

[warm lodge]

this only happened to me if all players were to far away

not if one of them dies

goozma is just special

[wise cairn]

i've had multiplayer runs where my homeboy dies and bosses like skeletron just despawn even though i'm still alive

[warm lodge]

okay so how am i supposed to beat goozma

[sly patio]

dont die

[wise cairn]

thug it out? idk

[warm lodge]

theres notihng more i can get or do

also i gotta move alot cause im melee

[wise cairn]

matter of attempts then

[warm lodge]

so i gotta be close raged

[sly patio]

whats ur loadout

[warm lodge]

ranged

[wise cairn]

move a lot? close range?

contradictory but okay

unless you mean just circling the boss

[sly patio]

for some of the moves your spinny batton thing is really OP for goozma i used that for my fight

[warm lodge]

the boss hovers around you so i gotta fly up to hit them

[sly patio]

i forgot the name of it

[warm lodge]

trhis my loadout tho

[warm lodge]

dragon rage?

[sly patio]

yeah

[wise cairn]

yo get some more heals bro 😭

[sly patio]

when he is below you and his second slime is above you you can use it for crazy damage

[warm lodge]

enchant or no?

[sly patio]

also when the red slive grabs you you can use it the whole time going down for free dmg

[wise cairn]

maybe that close ranges does extra damage enchant

for dragon rage only though

because that could amount to some ridiculous damage

[sly patio]

for ranged use the exoblade

dragon rage and exoblade combo goes crazy

[warm lodge]

which one

[wise cairn]

bloodthirsty

nevermind.

[warm lodge]

dragon rage is mid

[sly patio]

have you killed exomechs yet?

its not

[wise cairn]

rosco said they killed exos and scal

[sly patio]

@warm lodge drop affliction for draedons heart

[wise cairn]

dragon rage is NOT mid

[sly patio]

get exoblade

[warm lodge]

NO

[wise cairn]

dragon rage can kill infernum sepulcher instantly iirc

[sly patio]

and dragon rage carries the fight

[warm lodge]

cobalt

dragon rage got me 60k dps max, tainted orderbringer got me 400k dps

also i killed goozma

i used taitnd roderbringer

[wise cairn]

ayy ggs

oh yeah tainted

that enchant is fckin crazy

[sly patio]

is tainted a scal enchat

[dense ocean]

Yes, it removes projectiles but you gives you a hand or two.

Or more accurately;
'A weapon enchanted with Tainted will no longer be capable of firing projectiles.

While holding a Tainted weapon, two large red skeletal arms will spawn, with the ends centered on the player's body. Each arm will hold a version of the Tainted weapon. Upon usage of the item, the arms will swing as the player swings, dealing true melee damage for 5x the weapon's base damage.'

[sly patio]

how 400k dps without projectiles what

[warm lodge]

it still has projectiles btw

and has 2 skeleton armors

[warm lodge]

cause it has 2 armors, each one has its own slash

the big arm has a red slash that basiclly unleashes like 200 beams from the sky at once

[dense ocean]

The enchantment that removes projectiles?
If true, that sounds like a bug.