calamity-addon-talk

[steep cobalt]

c tier because fractured ark is functional

viable i suppose

[neon stag]

Which one of the weapons in the crafting line would you consider S tier? Since I can see an argument for ark of the elements being A tier

[steep cobalt]

it's like the eye of night but it doesn't have the ignominious distinction of being worse than 2 of its components

[steep cobalt]

idk

none of them

[neon stag]

ok buddy

[steep cobalt]

why would i use the eye of night over vile feeder/scab ripper and necrosteocytes?

[lusty kindle]

Is the astralpod staff any good pre-moonlord?

[sage ivy]

Is this good

I reforged them all to lucky

[neon stag]

Looking good 👍

[sage ivy]

I can finally beat king slime

[faint peak]

why hellkite needs to be crafted in a zenith world?

[neon stag]

[fading dove]

no warding.........................

[fading dove]

it has two recipes

[neon stag]

Warding falls of post ml in infernum

its really just not worth it anymore

[sage ivy]

wow this build is great

[fading dove]

it does not

[sage ivy]

i did 4% more damage before dying

[gloomy wedge]

I only like lucky for dog

Everything else I use warding

[fading dove]

even then warding is still best for dog which is funny

how else are you gonna tank the head below full

[gloomy wedge]

Sealocket usually

[sage ivy]

Don't use reforges

they're fake

they dont do anything

[gloomy wedge]

You might be onto something there

[sage ivy]

the goblin is lying to you

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/3h3Q33HM05w?t=71

638 damage tanked easy

without those wardings it wouldve been 670

and my health wouldve been lower

making it extra not tankable

[steep cobalt]

"warding is useless in calamity" the convenient -49 damage taken:

[neon stag]

Thing is, you dont

Dog ai is very simple

[sage ivy]

slither.io method

[steep cobalt]

thing is, you can

as shown in the video

[fading dove]

notice how i beat dog in that example clear while still not playing super well

[neon stag]

You dont have to play super well to beat dog lmao

just slap on an amalgamated brain and flesh totem

dog is one of the easiest infernum bosses

[fading dove]

flesh totem is only -33%

[steep cobalt]

what if those are put on cooldown?

defense is there as an extra layer of protection

[neon stag]

Have you even read the item description

[fading dove]

have you ever heard of dr scaling

swamp cat of wisdom

[steep cobalt]

oh hey it's

[fading dove]

flesh totem and the bee are 33% dr thanks to scaling

[steep cobalt]

let me guess, elizzy once again managed to snuck in this thing

[neon stag]

Okay so were just rageabaiting now

I hate it when people do shit like this, trolling for no reason

[steep cobalt]

no

[fading dove]

no, flesh totem is affected by dr scaling

[neon stag]

Cant even have a legit conversation

[fading dove]

go ask devs

its not 0.5x, its 0.5 endurance to specifically contact damage

[neon stag]

”Ask the devs” they recommend absorber for no-hits, id rather go ask chatgpt for a probably better answer

[fading dove]

which is why sealocket is so big

because its actually 0.4x damage taken

[steep cobalt]

yeah flesh totem is affected by the dr scaling

[fading dove]

absorber gives pretty strong movement speed buffs

[neon stag]

Im really not gonna listen to someone who thinks taking 30 dmg less from a total of 670 damage ks substantial

[neon stag]

its nothing compared to literally any other movement accessory

[sage ivy]

Accessories propaganda

[fading dove]

notice how i survived the head and you didn't

[steep cobalt]

which is this thing

[sage ivy]

Dont use accessories

[neon stag]

You can survive multiple head hits without using warding lmao

thats just straight cope

[fading dove]

while sealocket is down

[neon stag]

I kill dog before sealocket is down

using lucky

[fading dove]

and i still got below mnl

[neon stag]

Yeah using true melee

[fading dove]

there's no reason to use lucky unless you're using a bad weapon

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

You can literally make the same argument for warding

[fading dove]

and even then you'll still want warding for consistency

[neon stag]

no you dont?? Warding is just not good

28 defense compared to 28% crit chance is almost never a worth it trade off post moonlord

[fading dove]

28?

i think you mean 42 and 7% dr

[steep cobalt]

flesh totem counts as alternative dr

which is still affected by the scaling

[neon stag]

Its not actually 7% dr btw

As you said earlier

[fading dove]

it adds to your endurance stat

[steep cobalt]

like it just can't flat out halves the damage taken

[neon stag]

anyways you can have 60 defense compared to 28% crit and I would still take lucky

warding is cope

[fading dove]

swamp cat of wisdom

[neon stag]

If warding doesnt let you take an extra hit its not worth it

And even then, you have to consider if taking 1-2 extra hits is better than just dealing effectively 30% extra dps

[steep cobalt]

which you still can honestly

[fading dove]

it reduces the time taken to regen to full

[steep cobalt]

yeh

[fading dove]

i'd like to see YOU afk supreme ultramage without warding since apparently warding is cope

[neon stag]

warding is cope

[night patrol]

why are we AFK'ing a boss

[steep cobalt]

then do it i guess

[steep cobalt]

because people are morbidly obsessed with mundane shits like that

[fading dove]

you will not get past dragonfollies i will promise you

[steep cobalt]

we'll attempt such pedantic things to sate our curiosity

[neon stag]

And how does that matter in any way

[steep cobalt]

i just want to answer the guy's question

[neon stag]

We are talking about casual infernum gameplay, where lucky will always outweigh the benefits from warding

[steep cobalt]

must it be tangibly related to the warding topic?

[fading dove]

?????????????

no the fuck it does not

[steep cobalt]

no

[nimble wing]

✅

[steep cobalt]

i'm answering a guy's question, which isn't related to the bickering you two have

[night patrol]

I don't think always is the word here

[fading dove]

why do you think everyone always says to use warding

[neon stag]

You literally proofed my point earlier in this discussion

taking 30 less damage from an end game boss that is already dealing huge amounts of damage is just not worth it

[steep cobalt]

why are you throwing your irritation at me for being normal?

like c'mon

[fading dove]

dog is not endgame

[neon stag]

its the 4th last boss in the game.

[fading dove]

5th

yharon, jared, exos, scal

[neon stag]

I guess if you consider jared yeah

[fading dove]

jared is indeed a boss

[steep cobalt]

jared is a boss in infernum

an optional one, but a boss regardless

[fading dove]

required for a nohit journey to be complete and gives boss zen

[steep cobalt]

it's not the secret/superboss/whatever the fuck vanilla calamity relegates it to be currently

i'm still puzzled about aew's classification in vanilla cal

[fading dove]

hidden boss

[gloomy wedge]

Jared is a boss but he doesn’t feel like one

[night patrol]

boss zen isn't the important thing since clam also gives boss zen, the important factor is the achievement completion

[fading dove]

not required for a basecal nohit journey to be complete

[gloomy wedge]

Let’s just split the difference and say aew is its own category

[steep cobalt]

yeh

[nimble wing]

The category is “Victim of Fabsol getting bored because he refuses to work with placeholders”

[steep cobalt]

[sage ivy]

Scal or exo mechs first

[gloomy wedge]

Exos

[steep cobalt]

five nights at freddy's

[gloomy wedge]

Scal’s rewards are very middling compared to exos

[steep cobalt]

except for vehemence

[sage ivy]

Is draedon's heart good

[gloomy wedge]

Best accessory in the game

And it’s not particularly close

[steep cobalt]

obituary vehemence my beloved

[steep cobalt]

well, aside from the sponge

bob

[gloomy wedge]

Better than sponge

Idc

[steep cobalt]

squarepants

[fading dove]

tainted ataraxia and bloodthirsty cosmic discharge are pretty good smh

[gloomy wedge]

Meleeslop

[steep cobalt]

ah yes bloodthirsty cosmic discharge

[fading dove]

you can also use like 8 of the same weapon but all ephemeral for a free damage boost

[steep cobalt]

mhm a staple for melee against dlc mutant

how scrumptious

[fading dove]

i remember testing solo cosmic discharge

its uhhh

well its no tainted iri

[steep cobalt]

who the fuck had the ingenious decision of including this sticker?

[fading dove]

pretty good time

is it high end? no

[steep cobalt]

maso or eternity mutant?

[fading dove]

is it respectable? yeah

eternity

[steep cobalt]

oh

4:28 on maso mutant'd have been staggering

[fading dove]

for reference

[steep cobalt]

i mean it's tainted iri

[fading dove]

ive never seen another weapon that comes close

[steep cobalt]

for a pre yharon weapon, yeah it has the tenacity and power

[fading dove]

iri is the post exos scal

[nimble wing]

Explain this statement before I attacka you with rocka

[fading dove]

ataraxia is the post yharon

oh wait cosmic discharge

yeah its still able to hold up

[steep cobalt]

oh hey it's the infernum true melee guy

[gloomy wedge]

My bad I didn’t mean to piss off an Italian

[fading dove]

havent tested another post dog weapon though

i dont think anything else would be usable though

[maiden fjord]

damn I need to finish my job in infernum. there's 3 bosses left and I'm not quite experienced on scal just yet

I do get quite a bit experienced on exos thanks to me performance testing my current pc with draedon :)

[gloomy wedge]

Kalandra?

[steep cobalt]

what's the killtime for tainted iri on maso mutant?

[fading dove]

solo mirror..........

[fading dove]

idk

[gloomy wedge]

Who uses solo mirror

[fading dove]

im not good enough to test on maso mutant

i can beat the shit out of eternity mutant but maso mutant is evil

oh yeah its all tested without rippers

still use scom

[steep cobalt]

scong

[maiden fjord]

mutant doing yharon bullet hell and ares nuke is never not be funny to me

[fading dove]

oh right i did test some summoner weapons

i think solo vigilance, 4 tesla rest vigilance, 2 tesla 2 plasma rest vigilance, and something with metastasis

[steep cobalt]

metastatis

[fading dove]

ah right 4 tesla rest vigilance with the destroyer + morning star got like a 2:50 or smth

oh right

[steep cobalt]

i guess the weapons have sufficient firepower to where the hearts aren't a nuisance to placate the worm

[fading dove]

i didnt have either of the summoner buffs

nvm all tests are fucked

[steep cobalt]

what

[fading dove]

-2 minion slots

[steep cobalt]

wait i thought soul of the master came with free uno potion buffs

or is the soul post mutant?

[fading dove]

i use quality of terraria for my buffs and i can turn some off

i simply forgot to turn them back on

[steep cobalt]

my memories on its availability aren't lucid enough

[steep cobalt]

oh

[fading dove]

also yeah sotm is pre mutant

[rare iris]

How to download calamity mod

[steep cobalt]

download it

[maiden fjord]

go to tmodloader steam workshop

[rare iris]

Ok

[fading dove]

steam workshop for tmodloader

[rare iris]

I can't found link?

[steep cobalt]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1281930/tModLoader/

[unreal adder]

Hey could someone help me with this bug?

Im playing calamity infernum and whenever I mine the terminus to fight the primordial wyrm I can't see it or its attacks just the light that it emits

[fallen horizon]

plantera is such a bad boss

it blocks you completely and there's never room for anything

[neon stag]

Solution: bigger arena

[fallen horizon]

no arena is saving you

it spams green stuff ansd then the rang eof the tentacles is infinite

it's just spammy spam

[neon stag]

This is infernum, right?

plantera is like piss easy bro what is this cope Just build full defensive and you can tank like 1000 hits buddy

[lofty mist]

https://youtu.be/ZNbi0gVS444?si=0S-ykZnvXwG4WMm-

Or just don’t get hit

[fallen horizon]

ity just spams too many attacks

it gets ridicolous in the end

[lofty mist]

You’re gonna love polterghast

[fallen horizon]

woowwww

advice of the century

this is some biblical level of writing

[neon stag]

Again, just make a huge ass arena

If you build tank you can take a hit every 5s and still kill her even on a casual build

If you use slagsplitter you can do her sub 50s, depending on weapon sub 30

[fallen horizon]

actually the issue are the thornsa

[neon stag]

big arena

ez

[fallen horizon]

cause they don't dissapear and keep annoying me

I am using the pre generated arena

[neon stag]

What do you mean

[neon stag]

Its more than enough

Just dig out the center

[fallen horizon]

I'll try

[neon stag]

You probably just have a build issue

Send screenshot

Also dig out more space if needed, the vernal pass is very easy to bore thru using dynamite

[dawn rose]

dude how tf do you do ares last

yall have some tips of ares?

i know how to dodge the lasers and the katana attack but idk how to dodge the first attacks

[neon stag]

Watch a no-hit for the movement pattern is all I can say really

[dawn rose]

pluh

i really need the summon but i need to defeat ares last

and thats the only mech that im struggling on

im so fucked

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

[neon stag]

you dont need the summon

[dawn rose]

but i want it

cuz its cook

cool

[neon stag]

its good yeah but summoner is op asf you can just do scal first

[neon stag]

Maybe you just have a build issue

Post ss

[dawn rose]

hold on lemme finish this attempt

alr

30 percent

im using yharons kindle staff, the lilies and mirror of kalandra

btw the armor is auric tesla armor+

[smoky dock]

Yhar-BAD’s gift

Yharim’s BAD gift

👎

[neon stag]

Use wings of rebirth, swap yharims gift for rampart of the deities

[dawn rose]

dam.

and i even crafted rampart of deities

well crafting the seraph tracers was a waste

[neon stag]

The rampart of deities is good for exos 👍

[lofty mist]

Yharims gift seriously needs a rework

[neon stag]

Maybe you can shimmer them

[dawn rose]

omw to shimmer

i dont wanna do yharon again

my pc is gonna die from the amount of red arrows

[novel pilot]

calamity with overhaul mod is good now? or still broken

i haven't played for a while but fighting with skeletron and other 2 bosses was braindead

[neon stag]

Its ass

[neon stag]

This sounds like masdeath, not cal overhaul

[fading dove]

calamity with terraria overhaul or with calamity overhaul

[novel pilot]

maybe

[neon stag]

Both are broken and ass

[novel pilot]

)

[neon stag]

Wouldnt use either

[fading dove]

terraria overhaul is quite good but starts immediately smearing shit over the walls if you use any other mods with it

[novel pilot]

calamity wrath of the gods best addon

[fading dove]

calamity overhaul will be crucified

[novel pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-tail-suck-tail-gif-21243409

[novel pilot]

can i craft this shit

without overhaul

or its only with overhaul

[neon stag]

No thats overhaul iirc

Only overhaul

[novel pilot]

my friend spend like 5 days

to craft

this

[frank mauve]

bro what is this shit lmao

[neon stag]

Overhaul crafting grid shi

[tardy cedar]

budget soul of eternity

[frank mauve]

some real bs

[hazy cairn]

I just lost my 70hrs world, I changed ssds and I didn't know the files was in document, Should I make a new playthrough or just cheat it to where I was

[tardy cedar]

id make a new pt and check some extra stuff out

you could also just cheat it back if you dont want to do allat

[hazy cairn]

It was my first playthrough as well, hurts sm I spent so much time on that and had fun

[tardy cedar]

yeah thats a bummer

[hazy cairn]

I think imma cheat it back, since I was pre DoG during that

[limber raptor]

whats the best melee weapon for eye of cuthulu infernum

[gloomy wedge]

overhaul adds a crafting grid thats literally just avaritia

[gloomy wedge]

uhhhh old lords oathsword?

depth crusher if youre willing to get it

but if you wanna stay on tier, cant really go wrong with smth like trimerang from my experience

[limber raptor]

how am i supposed to get trimmarang

if i need those shards

[nimble wing]

Something like Blade of Grass could do good work

[neon stag]

Some of the best would probably be like

• depths crusher
• bladecrest oathsword
• old lord claymore/flamarang/blade of grass

if you allow dungeon skipping add muramasa and dark lance there roo

[nimble wing]

Okay why are you saying Depth Crusher that’s post-Skele

[fading dove]

bladecrest above old lord 😭

[neon stag]

Its pre boss

buddy

[fading dove]

abyss layer 1 is post skeletron

[neon stag]

Theyre in no particular order

[north lotus]

im thinking of playing infernum w friends, can someone tell me all the weird kinks with multiplayer? like do the bosses act normal when focused on one player or is it mostly pretty jank

[neon stag]

Buddy, this is infernum

[fading dove]

the only tiershifts are gss and jared

[neon stag]

Obtainable pre boss btw

[fading dove]

yeah so is palladium repeater

[neon stag]

not in infernum, afaik

[fading dove]

❌

[neon stag]

tell me about it

[fading dove]

48 palladium columns from the colosseum portal and tablet pedestal

shimmer them and you get some palladium ore

[neon stag]

Okay, sadly thats not a melee weapon

[fading dove]

palladium sword is

[neon stag]

probably under depth crusher still

Its not particularly strong, has a nice regen buff tho

[fading dove]

it has 100 base damage

decently fast too

[nimble wing]

Oh. Oh that’s

Can you please tell Habble

[neon stag]

pretty mid range tho

Depth crusher has homing and a ranged attack/projectile

[fading dove]

48 palladium columns is also not enough to do anything with preboss

i think its like

4 bars and 2 ore

im not sure if it got fixed in one of the more recent bugfixes though

lets actually go check

[limber raptor]

whats the best rogue weapon for eye of cuthulu in infernum

[fading dove]

nasty cholla stealth i believe

no

[neon stag]

Nasty cholla spam

[fading dove]

nasty cholla spam

[neon stag]

✅

[fading dove]

nasty cholla is a strange little thing

[neon stag]

Nasty cholla spam gets good killtimes on all the bosses pre evil 2 iirc

At that point you just have better options tho, so the nasty cholla definitely serves its purpose

[fading dove]

stealth is better on desert scourge and boc

[limber raptor]

i cant make nasty cholla

can u tell me another wepaonm

[nimble wing]

What do you mean you can’t make nasty cholla

It’s literally just cactus

[limber raptor]

what

i thougt acorn

[neon stag]

Its just cactus on a workbench????

buddy

[fading dove]

medium world

[fading dove]

fandom wiki

[neon stag]

Please dont use fandom wiki

[fading dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Nasty_Cholla

[limber raptor]

why

[neon stag]

Cuz its ass and inaccurate and full of misleading information to troll people like you

its generally just not recommended

[fading dove]

gets misinformed
told they were misinformed
"why"

lets join infcord

[nimble wing]

Why don’t you explain it to them instead of doing this

[nimble wing]

After the wiki officially moved to .gg, the Fandom one got severely vandalized

Ever since then it’s been a dump for people to write whatever stupid ideas they want

[vital mulch]

did you tell them they were misinformed or did you just say the words fandom wiki with no explanation

[limber raptor]

yes

whats a good rogue wepon besides that nasty cholla

[cunning quail]

has infernum been fixed for multiplayer?

[limber raptor]

apparently

cuz i can play it with my friend

[cunning quail]

nice

[limber raptor]

is fishing smart in early game

[narrow coral]

yes

🎣

that's the only time i ever bother doing it usually

[limber raptor]

o

wait with what rod tho

and where

and with what bate

and where

[tawdry garnet]

looking to try a first runthru of calamity, do I only need that singular mod or are there others that are crucial to the experience?

[fading dove]

my recommendation is
calamity mod music
calamity mod
vanilla calamity mod music
boss checklist lite
recipe browser
where's my items

[lucid rapids]

I use alchemist npc lite, helps save time from farming for potions

[feral gull]

Fandom wiki is so funny

[lofty mist]

Calamity community remix:

[fair kernel]

is this infernum stracture?

[neon stag]

Yes

[tender gust]

any strats against infernum golem

[glad galleon]

is unnoficial calamity whips a bit too overkill?

like whenever i use one of those whips it shoots my dmg from 20k to around 70k

fleshly post ml

[neon stag]

static hook + butchers chainsaw

[frank mauve]

yeah

[smoky dock]

Yes

Catalyst has some of the whips from UCW but more balanced

[fleet timber]

Hello

How do I fix the infernum

player scaleing

[smoky dock]

whar

[fleet timber]

it doesnt work slime king is too easy

[smoky dock]

What’s the issue

[fleet timber]

the hp doesnt scale

for infernum

[smoky dock]

Ah, well if you have Fargo’s Mutant Mod you can manually decide boss/enemy health/damage

Soooo get that if you don’t have it already and 👍

[fleet timber]

is that the only way?

[smoky dock]

Well probably not

But it’s just the easiest way I know of

[fleet timber]

fargo mutant breaks

😭

[smoky dock]

are you sure that it’s Fargo’s Mutant Mod and not Fargo’s Souls

[tender gust]

golem infernum is objectively impossible

[neon stag]

Ok buddy

One of the easiest hm bosses

[tender gust]

golem infernum is objectively impossible

[cunning folio]

why?

personally i find it laughable in terms of difficulty

[smoky dock]

i heard someone beat golem

[tender gust]

because his attack are too hard to dodge and he deals 130 damage

[smoky dock]

he used three different weapons

cobalt kunai, majestic guard and butcher’s chainsaw

[cunning folio]

mobility is a key

you don't care about damage golem deals if you never let it hit you

[neon stag]

I guess bro

[neon stag]

What would be the best ranger option for golem

[smoky dock]

you’re asking me??????

[neon stag]

-# no I replied to you for no reason

Yes im asking you

[smoky dock]

a better class

[fleet timber]

is 4 players infernum scrouge 14k hp sound right?

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

Infernum desert scourge?

[smoky dock]

i have no idea

[neon stag]

whats the hp% for 4 players

[smoky dock]

I intentionally try to know as little as possible about anything that isn’t true melee because it’s funnier that way

[neon stag]

[tender gust]

im not a no hit player idk how to dodge in a tight space with no platforms

[modern dust]

Can anyone tell me who to kill first, Calamitas or Mechs? (infernum)

[fleet timber]

eah

[fleet timber]

its 14k hp for 4 players

does that sound right we all thought he got beat too easy for infernum

[neon stag]

Sounds about right yeah, cuz the hp scaling for 4 players is 256%

[frank mauve]

u should manually put the hp to 3x

so u get around 45k hp

[neon stag]

Hes insanely easy, and every boss becomes even easier in multiplayer cuz you physically cannot lose

[neon stag]

This is what I would do

Either scale boss hp to 3-4x or just use under tier weapons

[fleet timber]

were so baffled we are trying everything to scale the hp

[cunning folio]

scal is a pain to do

do exo mechs first

[fleet timber]

so atleast there is a challange

[modern dust]

In general, it sounds like another Infernum bug in mp

[cunning folio]

especially because of long desperation phase

[neon stag]

Infernum will never be a challenge with 4 guys diddling the bosses

[fleet timber]

💔

[neon stag]

Mechs

[smoky vessel]

:(

[fleet timber]

ty for input though

[modern dust]

@neon stag @cunning folio ty

[modern dust]

Infernum is terrible in multiplayer. You'll see what I mean later. Bosses start breaking, literally.

[fleet timber]

wym?

💔

[modern dust]

Polterghast.
It starts appearing headless, meaning it can't be damaged.

[tender gust]

dont get how to fucking beat this piece of shit golem

[modern dust]

phase?

[neon stag]

Probably a build issue

Send loadout

[tender gust]

2

[modern dust]

Undertale-like attack or wdym?

[fleet timber]

ok we managed to double the hp

thats enough ig

we arent that serious anyway

[tender gust]

when he prevents you from going on the ground

because there are spikes

[neon stag]

Wings, mng, amalgamated brain, giant tortoise shell, fairy boots, celestial emblem or any defensive accessory

this is what I would use

Arcane flower and sorcerer emblem are mid, im not so sure about celestial emblem either but ig if you want damage its an option

[modern dust]

||Hope for the best and try to stay closer to the center of the arena to react to attacks||

[tender gust]

what wings

if i dont use arcane flower i cant auto mana potion

and why fairy boots

[neon stag]

I generally like using tattered fairy wings

[tender gust]

why not spectre

[neon stag]

You dont use mana pots

[tender gust]

why not

[neon stag]

Spectre is fine, but less flight time

[tender gust]

ill js never be bale to attack then

[neon stag]

Less damage output

[neon stag]

You can regen pretty fast just hook to a wall

[tender gust]

then ill need a mana regen accessory

oh

is not having auto mana potion only good for golem or for all bosses

[neon stag]

Defensive over extra flight time, angel tread are fine aswell

[smoky dock]

I prefer Aureate Booster as my wings

You go wicked fast

[neon stag]

I never used mana potions in my infernum mage run.

Yeah aureate booster is pretty good

[smoky dock]

Aureate Booster's killer

[neon stag]

Especially with fairy boots

[smoky dock]

I used Hadarian Wings in my last run

[neon stag]

I find them to be pretty mid for golem.

[smoky dock]

I know, hadarians for Golem is like, the psychopath's choice

[neon stag]

You dont really need to be fast at all, so I like going for wings with extra flight time

[smoky dock]

But it goes to show that anything should work as long as it's half decent

[neon stag]

Tattered fairy wings have good flight and offensive capabilities

[smoky dock]

So like. No fucking Soul of Cryogen

[neon stag]

I lowkey like static hook aswell

[smoky dock]

Static Hook is lik

literally peam

God gives his greatest soldiers the greatest hooks

And thus, the Static Hook was born

[neon stag]

I love bobbit hook too.

[smoky dock]

Bobbit hook is so funny

i like to imagine it's just a live animal

[tender gust]

okay so tortoise shell

[neon stag]

featherfall potion, pogo stick and bobbit hook really just sends you to orbit

[tender gust]

what instead of flower again?

should i do aureate booster instead of tattered fairy wings

[neon stag]

Up to preference.

[modern dust]

Does anyone even use boots in post-Moon Lord?

[neon stag]

spectre wings are good too

[neon stag]

in basecal theyre pretty bad

[modern dust]

I asked many people. Nobody. Absolutely no one uses them because they are terribly useless.

[neon stag]

They have 2 use cases in infernum, apart from that im pretty sure theyre just ass

[smoky dock]

Occasionally some nohitters will use them

[tender gust]

new loadout

[smoky dock]

Fairy Boots somehow remain relevant for stupid hyper defense strats I think

[tender gust]

what weapoon should i use btw

[modern dust]

I went through Profaned Guardians with boots, after 10 attempts I switched to wings and never went back to boots.

[neon stag]

This looks like something I would use yeah, for the weapon of choice I have no idea

[smoky dock]

okay so by "boots" are you talking about the Celestial Tracers and its upgrades, or are you talking about Angel Treads

Or are you referring to both

[tender gust]

im using atlantis

[modern dust]

Angel Treads are still okay because they don't count as wings. But all Tracers are terrible in their use.

[neon stag]

Use whatever feels best, I dont really have an opinion here. My choice of weapon was horribly outdated and my kill time was really bad

[smoky dock]

I heard that nohitters use Seraph Tracers to rungod basecal Exos

[fading dove]

tracers arent terrible theyre just outclassed

wildly outclassed but theyre bare minimum usable

[neon stag]

Thats allowed in nohits?

[fading dove]

yeah

[smoky dock]

yeah

[neon stag]

lmao

[smoky dock]

as long as you don't completely 'invalidate' the fight

[neon stag]

im gonna fallgod eoc

[neon stag]

Is that not what rungodding does

It just trivializes most of the fight

[smoky dock]

i think basecal exos might just not have a more consistent solution

[fading dove]

you cant rungod the entire fight most of the time

[neon stag]

interesting

[fading dove]

if you can then that's a major design flaw in the boss

[fading dove]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxwdEydxUGlE9ZiRMBP70Kwho15nhDf-sg

[smoky dock]

there's a difference between invalidating the entire fight that's otherwise challenging but fair and invaliding the entire fight that's just 100% random bullshit the entire time

[neon stag]

-# ~~masdeath wof ~~

[modern dust]

If memory serves, I used Astralachnea Staff

[tender gust]

still dying fucks sake

i cant be bothered

[neon stag]

Swap amalgamated brain

For something defensive

[fading dove]

you can rungod ares except for blender, when laser arm is on the same side as you or is going down, or when gauss nuke is opposite side of you

[tender gust]

amalgamated brain saved a few times tho

cuz of the dodge

[neon stag]

Master ninja gear and brain dont stack

[tender gust]

i dont have master ninja gear

[neon stag]

Nvm, you never ended up getting mng

[fading dove]

you can also fluttergod instead of rungodding but it takes very very slightly more effort

[tender gust]

i dont know what that means

[neon stag]

I would use mng and just use another defensive instead of brain

[fading dove]

like ursa

[neon stag]

ursa sergeant is good.

[fading dove]

ursa is way too fucking strong

[neon stag]

You should also go full warding if thats not already the case

[tender gust]

OH MY GOD

HE'S DEAD

WE KILLED HIM

SOB IS DEAD

THANK YOU FOR THE HELKP

[modern dust]

Good luck with the next bosses. It won't get any easier ;D

[tender gust]

thanks

i will need it

[neon stag]

yeah.. golem is generally considered pretty easy…

[tender gust]

idc

im taking th win

idc if he's considered piss easy

at the end of the day we beat him

all bosses can be defeated.

[dawn rose]

am i supposed to find the murasama post eye of cthulhu???

[fading dove]

its not like it does anything

[dawn rose]

oh alr

[fading dove]

its only unsheathed post dog

[dawn rose]

i thought it had 2k dmg the moment you got it

i lowkey got tired of summoner

so i started a melee run

[modern dust]

When I heard this for the first time, I thought I really needed to kill the dog.

[fading dove]

kill town dog...........

[spice stag]

why is the codemnation so ass

[fading dove]

its quite strong

[spice stag]

am i supposed tyo right or left click

[fading dove]

as seen above, the charged shot is slighly better

[dawn rose]

tbh the only thing i miss from cal overhaul was the quest book

it had great rewards

but the mod is unbalanced as shit sooooo

[dull robin]

Why can't I use terminus lads?

does it not work with wrath of the gods?

[fading dove]

have you beaten aoe

[dull robin]

Nope

lemme check that out

[spice stag]

whats the best weapon for wrath of gods

[neon stag]

”Whats the best weapon for calamity??”

[unkempt stream]

My Infernum tierlist ranked by all factors. (Fight, music, design, lore)

Lemme prefix that polterghast is so high because I like how he fits into progression

[pine hamlet]

Whats a calamity add on you guys would recommend for calamity im doing infernum

[unkempt stream]

wrath of the machines

the infernum exo fight still isn't very good and it makes it the best fight in the game

[south shore]

ehhh

[elder nebula]

old duke not in bottom...

[gloomy wedge]

yharon top tier if you laugh

[south shore]

"best fight in the game" is pushing it ngl
even when compared to basecals roster I dont think its that far above the best fights there

wotm exos have a fair number of problems between being incredibly repetitive and massive sensory overload

[unkempt stream]

alright alright its because of the music

[unkempt stream]

also carried by the music

[frank mauve]

put scal in yes and everything in nah

[onyx igloo]

Toxic Wisdom is too good for a terrible boss

[unkempt stream]

Im praying on the sulfurous sea overhaul

[frank mauve]

crags overhaul when

[south shore]

toxic wisdom is lowkey one of the weaker cal tracks but music discussion is not a can of worms I feel like opening

[gloomy wedge]

just gonna post this, oh hey i made this list before i realized i was trans

for the record i think guardians is the best boss in the mod

i just like provi and scal more

[frank mauve]

i agree with this list

scal on top and draedon at the bottom? deal

[elder nebula]

you have a true

fuck wof

and eow

[unkempt stream]

I lowkey was really disappointed when I fought guardians, the fight feels insanely oversaturated to me. Insane visuals and quality but thats kinda all I like about it.

[wheat kraken]

wish me luck gang

on the bright side at least i dont have to grind life crystals 😭

MY SEED IS FUCKING DOGASS WHAT THE HELL MAN

[wheat kraken]

i dont think i was ever disappointed by any infernum fight

they're all s tier

imo

[unkempt stream]

alr I love infernum too but thats kinda glaze

[heavy moat]

Honestly? I dunno
I feel it's more lights, bloom, and extravagance than proper balanced visuals

But I'll admit to being extraordinarily biased against Guards for other reasons

[wheat kraken]

im glazing this mod until i die bruh

[unkempt stream]

holy shit its lucille

[wheat kraken]

im top 1 lucille karma glazer

oh hi lucille

😭

[neon stag]

Infernum

[unkempt stream]

ok there is absolutely no way to place infernum old duke in s tier Im sorry

[neon stag]

Agreed

[wheat kraken]

[unkempt stream]

lol

[wheat kraken]

im doing it anyway

[proper peak]

old duke is dash simulator

its barely engaging

[gloomy wedge]

i sometimes see people saying "od and dog are literally the same boss how can you like one but not the other" and i gotta wonder if they actually played infernum

[fading dove]

on hod 🙏

[runic moss]

What if instead of old duke and dog it was old duchess and woke

[fading dove]

old duke is better

[gloomy wedge]

on hoad

[unkempt stream]

I would def say it's engaging at least

my toes have never been more clenched

[gloomy wedge]

Calamity If It Was WOKE
Old DUCHESS
Devourer of DEITIES
THEY/THEM Exo Mechs
SUPREME WITCH CALAMITAS

[proper peak]

then rebind your dash to shift

and turn your brain off

[indigo patio]

Is there a good way to survive the desperation phase of infurnum scal. I don't know why I'm struggling all of a sudden

[gloomy wedge]

brimstone crescent staff

[unkempt stream]

no but even then the timing is pretty percice and he'll randomly fuck you over like 1 in every 8 dashes

[gloomy wedge]

call upon the eggs

[heavy moat]

Who?

[gloomy wedge]

could keep some melee armor and a survivability build in your 2nd loadout

[gloomy wedge]

i think theyre the person who made the do nothing addon

pretty good addon imo

would recommend

[unkempt stream]

maybe because its the hardest 30 seconds of the game by far lol

[proper peak]

haven't gone against giant clam with no arena

[unkempt stream]

thats actually so true

[indigo patio]

Currently have all the survival stuff but I get 2 tapped the woes of playing on a super hard difficulty

[gloomy wedge]

2 tapped with crescent and egg?

that is insane

[heavy moat]

There is a world out there where Infernum fulfilled its original design intentions and everything was like Giant Clam but infinitely worse

[unkempt stream]

I've genuinely never killed infernum giant clam

[gloomy wedge]

well, good way to learn is to watch nohits

[unkempt stream]

like Im unable to

[gloomy wedge]

its not that hard but its also genuinely the hardest boss in prehm lmao

[proper peak]

I beat infernum calamitas on my 26th attempt just by watching nohits

ngl her patterns don't vary at all so its pretty easy to get it consistent

[indigo patio]

What is crescent, maybe I don't. Have all the survival stuff

[gloomy wedge]

brimstone crescent staff

[proper peak]

Crescent is myra's item that drops from Calclone in Hell

[gloomy wedge]

you get it by killing calclone in the crags i think

[indigo patio]

Oh well give me a minute to go do that

[unkempt stream]

infernum dog took me 780 attempts 😀

[gloomy wedge]

took me 200 personally

that guy FARMS attempts

then 2nd playthrough is like 20

[unkempt stream]

I know Im fucking ass at infernum dog for some reason

its a pretty polarising boss

[heavy moat]

Infernum DoG doesn't feel like a boss that would exist in a mod with a playerbase count of over one million

[unkempt stream]

still peak tho

[gloomy wedge]

inf dog is insane and i love it

like all his flaws are also why i love him

[proper peak]

infernum dog was my only boss that surpassed 200 attempts

but its still one of my favorites

[unkempt stream]

same but it went a little further above 200

[unkempt stream]

this is so real

[heavy moat]

Used to be harder in the past is the funny thing

[indigo patio]

Is that 60% additive on time of my existing defense or is after the first damage calculation?

[fading dove]

its 0.4x iirc

[proper peak]

no idea, it's probably the latter

[indigo patio]

It would be really cool if they just let me have 97% damage reduction I'm just saying

[proper peak]

it's still worth it for desperation since you don't need to attack

[heavy moat]

One second

[proper peak]

I don't think terraria's damage reduction works like that

[gloomy wedge]

pretty sure dr scales logarithmically in cal anyways so

[indigo patio]

I think you're right but still I'm desperate to stop sucking

[fading dove]

i remember testing no scaling dr against inf guardians and they were genuinely free

[proper peak]

idk why people say guardians are hard

[gloomy wedge]

guardians are very hard

[proper peak]

they are probably the easiest post ML boss

besides dragonfolly

[unkempt stream]

chat what

[indigo patio]

They're like the 3 hardest boss in infurnum what do you mean?

[proper peak]

legit how?

its just dashing up and down

[fading dove]

exos:

[proper peak]

okay exos were only easy cause of ares and artemis+apollo

they can be way harder though

[unkempt stream]

dragonfolly is easier for sure

[fading dove]

thana + hunters is easier

[proper peak]

no way

[gloomy wedge]

jared:

[proper peak]

is that what you call them

[heavy moat]

Go against Artemis, Apollo, and Thanatos

[fading dove]

butcher thana p1 with drage and then just run the fuck away once hunters exist

[proper peak]

hunters?

dragon rage is cheese bro

[unkempt stream]

id say hardest bosses goes DoG, SCal, and guardians

[gloomy wedge]

thana hunters is really good because it means you dont have to deal with fucking ares for the latter half

[fading dove]

they can't hit you if you keep going up and down while never letting go of A or D

[proper peak]

also you need to deal with ares solo

[fading dove]

easily farm adrenaline and then butcher ares

[proper peak]

which imo has the hardest special attack

[fading dove]

you only have to deal with 1 strong attack

[proper peak]

also i have no idea how to dodge all his arms

don't insult me though

[heavy moat]

I think there's only like four people on Earth that can

[fading dove]

yeah my method is just holding down and right, and then dashing left when the plasma arm fires

[unkempt stream]

that one arm in particular

[proper peak]

even that isn't consistent

[fading dove]

and then praying that he uses blender instead of phaseslayer dashes

[proper peak]

honestly thanatos + hunters is only easier for melee

[heavy moat]

Infernum Exos are kinda scuffed

[indigo patio]

... I got 3 tapped yay

[fading dove]

eye of madness deals a shitton of damage to p1 thana too

[proper peak]

and even that is based on how good you are at the ares lasers

[fading dove]

and kinda nukes p4 thana

[proper peak]

eye of madness doesn't shred thanatos like dragon rage

you still need to experience 2 phases of DOG dashes

[fading dove]

and drage doesn't shred thana like halibut cannon

[unkempt stream]

If only someone made a way better version

[proper peak]

Hunt of the Old Machines:

[fading dove]

she souls on my dlc til i force of the gale

god i love force of the gale probably my favourite accessory in tmod

[heavy moat]

Well you see WotM is straining visuals spam and repetitive and doesn't have enough attack variety

[proper peak]

yeah but airplane

[unkempt stream]

but my eyes like it

[heavy moat]

That's a fair point

[unkempt stream]

also hades steam

[fading dove]

oh yeah i tore apart maso exos

1:37

glory to scom
https://youtu.be/vMVB444Y0Bg

[heavy moat]

When the melee weapons are balanced around Ares and co literally sitting 20 goddamn meters away from the player at all times like a cruel, sentinent fridge magnet and suddenly become really strong when that stops being the case

Tainted enchant appearance is kinda fun

[fading dove]

inf exos are also not immune to being nearly butchered
https://youtu.be/0zrVdHI3AK0

though i suppose toxic heart is newer than them

[gloomy wedge]

cal swords with fargos use 1 just looks cursed

[woven orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-fire-library-of-ruina-xiao-ego-fire-gif-27425204

[fading dove]

project moon fans being summoned at a single crumb

[heavy moat]

"Let's not have Artemis, Apollo, and Ares be glued to the screen like high-budget metallic post-it-notes" was a design priority in Infernum as well tbf
Just not as well executed

Toxic heart usage is really amusing doe

[fading dove]

i do wonder how maso exos would fare against the toxic heart afk since its technically not lifesteal

[woven orbit]

Using a PM song and expects to not attract every PM fan

[gloomy wedge]

why is this heart guy so toxic man

[woven orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-marshmallow-faust-gif-13241880561680863034

[wheat kraken]

7 deaths so far

[round sphinx]

785 ATTEMPTS OH MY GOD

I have peaked in life

[frank mauve]

i guess so

🤔

[unkempt stream]

omg twin

I got 780 aswell

[spice mirage]

anyone know why some infernum moonlord projectiles blend in with the background?

it makes it impossible to see unless somethings behind it

[rich pond]

does wrath of gods work in multiplayer now?

[frank mauve]

omniscient potion

dont use it

[unkempt stream]

wait does scal have the same problem

because her attacks would be invisible for me sometimes

[frank mauve]

probably

since omniscient potion is not that good

[spice mirage]

youre goated ty🙏

[silver shoal]

im mid lunar events and i struggled so much on aureus for whatever reason

[onyx igloo]

Omniscient potion is counterproductive

[onyx igloo]

Have you tried the tank mage

Nothing is mage except the weapon

[silver shoal]

i havent

im currently summoner

i beat him but idk why i was struggling

[clever yacht]

whats so bad about calamity overhaul gameplay wise

[nimble wing]

shatters the balance of all manner of things, like by making murasama preboss or by adding a purely wasteful reload mechanic to literally every gun

poorly reworks a few bosses

[smoky dock]

murasama is pretty balanced up until eoc

afterwards it's like, single best modded weapon in the game but surely being cool for three bosses is good right?

[nimble wing]

some of the weapon reworks just remove the good design intent of the original weapon. like phospho gauntlet, which CO changes to barf a giant stream of projectiles

[clever yacht]

isnt a lot of this disableable?

[smoky dock]

sobbe

what the fuck

how could they fucking ruin the most peam weapon in the mod what the hell

[nimble wing]

because it's unusable on fabsol bosses (fixing the symptom and ignoring the cause!)

[smoky dock]

sobs

fix ture melee pelaease

[nimble wing]

file corruption is not configurable

[smoky dock]

infernum is on hospice care I don't want to have to be stuck in the stone age to play the game

[runic moss]

infernum dying is good because it allows everyone to rest

😊

[smoky dock]

I will not rest

[clever yacht]

well im trying to figure out stuff beforei start my run

[smoky dock]

I will become a #challenge-runs lichen

[clever yacht]

so should i have it on or nah

[smoky dock]

guess

[runic moss]

Dawg

[nimble wing]

no bro i said file corruption

[smoky dock]

I will invent my own Infernum

[clever yacht]

how does it corrupt files

[nimble wing]

nobody has the foggiest idea

[smoky dock]

if the means were known then it would be fixed at this point

[nimble wing]

it can corrupt files more consistently if you disable it

[smoky dock]

it's possible that it's not even Overhaul's fault, and the file corruption could be from scripts from one of the mods it steals code from

[nimble wing]

and i've heard once that CO's devs said they are not fixing the corruption

(don't quote me on that)

[smoky dock]

skull emoji

[gloomy wedge]

Every single true melee weapon, ever

Also every gun

[smoky dock]

real

[night fractal]

and i've heard once that CO's devs said they are not fixing the corruption
-Lynel, 2025

[spice stag]

whats best wrath of gods weapon for ranger

[frank mauve]

prolly that bow

contagion

[spice stag]

is this good

[frank mauve]

get demonshade armor

[smoky dock]

i'm not sure if gem tech can realistically compete with demonshade

[spice stag]

i got demonshade do i change anything else

[smoky dock]

i think it has some hope but I'm not very confident in that

[merry harness]

is catalyst, hunt of the old god, and wotg compatible with infernum?

[frank mauve]

even with multiclassing demonshade is better

[frank mauve]

✅

[merry harness]

ok thanks

is there any other ones i sohuld use?

or are those the big 3

[frank mauve]

those are the big 3

as for other ones i pretty much forgot ngl

[sage ivy]

Dragon rage or murasama

[frank mauve]

seems like an obvious question

[sage ivy]

It's my first time playing calamity

which one is better

[merry harness]

do test and find out

[sage ivy]

What do you think

[frank mauve]

well murasama is post dog while dragon rage is post yharon

making dragon rage the better option

[sage ivy]

dragon rage does a little more

[nimble wing]

submarine shocker vs feralthorn claymore (and countless other examples) prove otherwise

dragon rage is better though

[frank mauve]

m postml tmelee is in shambles

[sage ivy]

exo mechs lowkey killed every npc

i died to artemis and apollo desperation

tips?

[frank mauve]

running away tends to work

while dashing obviously

[sage ivy]

okay

[merry harness]

what world evil should i choose for wotg, catalyst, hunt of old god, infernum?

[frank mauve]

put random and let fate decide

crimson is more enjoyable though

[merry harness]

should i disable boss cursor, i wonder if it makes bosses harder since i end up focusing on the boss cursor instead of the attacks

[sage ivy]

I beat exo mechs yay

22 attempts

😋

[merry harness]

nice

[sage ivy]

Tenkyu

[frank mauve]

its better if u get used without it imo

[sage ivy]

Which of these do i swap draedon's heart with?

[indigo patio]

The ring or radiance would be my pick

[sage ivy]

thanks

[sharp flower]

If I disable Fargo's dlc, while I have some NPCs from it in my world, will it break my world?

[frank mauve]

the npcs are from fargos mutant

[sharp flower]

Yeah, meant thay

*that

[frank mauve]

so u can disable dlc

[sharp flower]

Ok thx

Idk id its dlc or normal fargo that is nerfing reaver shark

If it is mutants, will that cause any problems?

[frank mauve]

its not mutant

[sharp flower]

Alr thx

[frank mauve]

also i think it does say that dlc doesnt support zenith seed

[merry harness]

how do i take the soul-driven headphones of my character

[clear umbra]

guys im playing infernum for the first time as a summoner

[frank mauve]

s*mmoner

[clear umbra]

any advice 🥹

[frank mauve]

usually the best advice is dont get hit

[clear umbra]

it dont work bro

[merry harness]

Watch no hit of boss ur fighting on YouTube

Oh yeah and download disable tombstone mod

[clear umbra]

is infernum progression really different from the normal calamity one?

[frank mauve]

not much

[merry harness]

They change the sand shark around

It’s basically the same tho

[frank mauve]

sand shark and jared are diff yeah

[clear umbra]

whos jared

[frank mauve]

wyrm guy

abyss boss

[clear umbra]

ohhh

thanks guys

ill have so much fun playing infernum

[frank mauve]

wdym thanks we didnt even help

[clear umbra]

you helped me mentally

ig

[frank mauve]

[dusty cobalt]

Damn

[abstract oasis]

time to end it all

[merry harness]

[lucid rapids]

Anyone know any good mods to optimize calamity and run better?

[tepid root]

PLEASE give me some advice for the stupid nighttime phase 2 spear attack on infernum providence

it genuinely feels undodgable

[fading dove]

watch nohits

[frank mauve]

up and down fast

[tepid root]

i have, the issue is that it feels like providence is firing way faster here. I see people dashing right at the end of the pillars sometimes but even staying as close to the ground as i can the next one reaches me long before the first pillar ends

[tepid root]

i'll give it a go

[frank mauve]

i mean u still have to move to the side a bit so the spear dont hit u

if u feel like ur too slow starboard can help

[tepid root]

im usin it

[frank mauve]

personally i find solar/stardust wings to be enough

[sage ivy]

gem tech or auric tesla for scal? im melee

[elder nebula]

auric

[sage ivy]

aight

[abstract oasis]

Nope, but cool pfp

What are you having trouble with?

[kindred quarry]

Im having an issue on infernum where I can't spawn ceaseless void in his room

I've heard he's supposed to be chained up but if he isn't does that mean I have to make a new world

[round sphinx]

I think the best part of my infernum experience was seeing that my jungle lab got destroyed by the cherry blossom shrine. A little annoying that I had to change worlds to get jungle blueprint but kind of funny that for some reason the mod makes the shrine more important than the lab

[amber elk]

hey chat

me and my firends areplaying infernum and we are killing bosses too eaasily why?

[elder nebula]

vaguest possible question award

[amber elk]

do you not see that?

we are doing so much damage

[elder nebula]

yes, because i can see into your game and know which boss you're fighting with the gear you're using

and what mods you have

[amber elk]

alright

is it infernum multiplayer remaster?