calamity-addon-talk

[frank bluff]

ngl i love the tittle logo is spinning when making drunk world

[cobalt pier]

That's the fun of it isn't it

Do you not find fun in figuring the impossible out

I literally find fun in doing what no one else wants to do

[frank bluff]

gl on 2x speed btw

[neon stag]

its hell on earth

[cobalt pier]

[insert cringey line about not needing luck]

[neon stag]

It wouldnt be bad at all if the player also moved at 2x speed

Would be way easier actually

[cobalt pier]

I wanna do 2× speed GFB Death QB as well tbh

[neon stag]

But only bosses and enemy projectiles move at 2x speed

[narrow coral]

2x speed true melee is really funny too

[cobalt pier]

I'm also on controller

[neon stag]

okay I can see why lowd has you added

[cobalt pier]

What's that meant to mean

[neon stag]

[cobalt pier]

This isn't bad tbh

This is my first inf run

Really fun

The fact someone can say inf or exdeath is hard without a ruleset is bewildering

[neon stag]

Infernum weaponless is super fun, if you want to keep playing infernum after this run

its very easy though

[cobalt pier]

I did exrev and masrev weaponless

[neon stag]

its a bit different in infernum

[cobalt pier]

Enough to make me eat shit?

[neon stag]

exos is slightly easier in infernum than in exdeath imo

[neon stag]

nah

[cobalt pier]

No interest nhen

[neon stag]

its just a fun run overall

[neon stag]

[thin canyon]

[narrow coral]

🛜

[cobalt pier]

No way lmao

First run after i get water

3% on core

Cool 24 attempts

Let me go make a trophp room

[amber elk]

whats the best mage weapon for infernum queen bee

[cobalt pier]

You're never going to guess

[amber elk]

zap

?

[cobalt pier]

Yuh

[amber elk]

bruh

[cobalt pier]

one down many to go (i match my gear to the respective boss tier - i do not overtier)

[neon stag]

Flamelash

[cobalt pier]

Pre-skeletron boss:

"Use flamelash"

[amber elk]

im figthing her pre skele

[neon stag]

Well its the best single target mage weapon I can think of in phm

[cobalt pier]

Yes, but it's also post skele

[neon stag]

You can get it pre boss

[cobalt pier]

I do not expect someone asking for weapon recommendations to know how to abuse npc caps

[neon stag]

They asked for whats best

I delivered

[cobalt pier]

Do you think it'd be cheating to add the golden dark mage relic because it's technically only available in t3 but it'd look ugly as hell without it

[cobalt pier]

You know what, fair point

[neon stag]

I personally would just use the cauldron or something

[cobalt pier]

Zapinator is better sadly

[amber elk]

how much aerialite ore should i get

[neon stag]

rng based

[neon stag]

enough for bob

[amber elk]

i mean i thought tradewinds was good

[neon stag]

Wait no

[cobalt pier]

Over multiple tests it performed better than every other weapon at the intended progression state

[cobalt pier]

Oh it absolutely is

Zapi is just better

[neon stag]

Yeah I was just about to correct myself ok

[amber elk]

anyway how much aerialite

[scarlet shadow]

still around 400 consistent dps

[cobalt pier]

Enough for the helmet and bundle of horshoe ballons - like 80

[neon stag]

[amber elk]

wait what

[cobalt pier]

What boss do i do next on 2× speed

[amber elk]

no armour and wings?

[cobalt pier]

Bundle >

[amber elk]

what about full armou

[scarlet shadow]

Cryogen

[cobalt pier]

And the helmet is better than magic hat but the rest is directly not better unless you are experienced with something similar to featherfall

[amber elk]

bruh

so do i lowk carry aer helm mystic cloak and meteor pants till wof?

[scarlet shadow]

eh use whatever

pre-hm mage setups arent really strict armor-wise

[cobalt pier]

Uhh it's your choice between shadow greaves, meteor pants

The helmet is upgraded into statigel

[amber elk]

im jus gonna get 500 ore and duo

dip

[cobalt pier]

[neon stag]

I just slapped on full aerialite last time I played mage

[cobalt pier]

it's good for mobility but bad for damage

[scarlet shadow]

its so easy to get imo

[neon stag]

Its the easiest to get

[scarlet shadow]

like 30-40 ore from aerialite slimes

not to mention the big ass chunks

[neon stag]

exactly

[amber elk]

maybe imma get tradewinds just cuz i want to get the full mage expirience

[frank bluff]

💀

[neon stag]

I like to just slap on shit cuz I hate grinding

[frank bluff]

tbh i don't rely on luck too

[scarlet shadow]

funnily i also had some aerialite ore generated on my underground corruption shrine

[frank bluff]

ok i go do twins

[cobalt pier]

valid

[frank bluff]

this is so me

[cobalt pier]

do we consider using this cheaty if i'm in phm

[frank bluff]

but bad

[amber elk]

what is that

[cobalt pier]

it's dark mage relic

[amber elk]

wait does cal buff old ones?

[cobalt pier]

no

just dark mage

and he's easy

I never thought i'd use celestial cuffs

[amber elk]

bro realistic sky lags me tf out

[cobalt pier]

Retro lighting

[frank bluff]

when i see it

[amber elk]

ive never once used draedons arsenal

[frank bluff]

it's kind of bad but the only good thing is restores mana when damaged

[scarlet shadow]

nerfs by forcing the bosses to focus on you instead of the crystal

[cobalt pier]

Honestly yeah

Even if you can afk atleast t1

[scarlet shadow]

your respawn time is also not affected by minibosses so even if you die you'll pop right back up in 3s unless you feel like messing with calamity configs

[frank bluff]

NGL VERY UNDERWHELMING

CAPS

bruh

caps sorry

imma actually try lunic eye

[frank bluff]

i'm so stupid

[scarlet shadow]

oh screw you too AoE

[frank bluff]

o7

@cobalt pier

[fossil topaz]

hey does hallow ore generate after i beat all of the mech bosses?

idk i got a message where hallow ore began to generate in the hallow biome

[quaint prairie]

What do I do if my providence altar got broken in infernum and I cant fight providence?

[amber elk]

does infernum queen beeenrage on surface

[neon stag]

Yes

[fossil topaz]

huh

well im in the hallow

where tf is it

[neon stag]

iirc it does, dont quote me on that tho

[fossil topaz]

im specifically i nthe hallow ice biome

[neon stag]

Underground

[neon stag]

It should generate there aswell, maybe check the cavern layer?

[neon stag]

Spawn her manually

thats what I do

[amber elk]

bro

[quaint prairie]

how?

[amber elk]

theres a normal living tree in this jungle

[neon stag]

Dragon lens

Or you can make a new world and spawn her normally

[cobalt pier]

It shouldn't

If it does it's not noticable

[amber elk]

god i love the city buster

[cobalt pier]

Insert cheatsheet/heros mod/dragon lens

[amber elk]

oh shit

phew

[scarlet shadow]

havent even reached me when i got to my ceiling world border

smolyn death is so fraudulent

[amber elk]

alr queen bee time

[halcyon ingot]

as if it wasnt already

[scarlet shadow]

so anyway ND time ig

[halcyon ingot]

that really namelesses my deity

[scarlet shadow]

hmm

is Shattered Community worth using for ND

[wild narwhal]

holy choke 😭

[scarlet shadow]

damn i dont remember him being this easy

[vale heart]

what to change for cultist

my spectre is in vanity

[scarlet shadow]

tuff fit

if only i could recolor my weapons

like in a certain mod

that i dont wanna use again

[still python]

I think yea

Only if you have it maxed

[fallen horizon]

CRABULON IS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE AS ROGUE

in infernum

should I skip it and fight it later

[frank bluff]

locked out

win after death should've avoidable

[fallen horizon]

how does a crabulon arena look like for ifnernum

[ashen sonnet]

why does skeletron just despawn mid fight

its still night n everything

[grizzled onyx]

is it multiplayer

also what difficulty

[scarlet shadow]

kill it

[scarlet shadow]

natural world gen under a glowing mushroom planetoid

[neon stag]

Long flat platform

[fallen horizon]

what

[fossil topaz]

is it weird that i legit dont see any hallow ore in the hallow biome underground?

i already beat all of the mech bosses

where the hell are they

[ember iris]

Is there any way I can get infinite flight? im struggling with dog
also any accessories or weapons I should lean for?
(infernum)

[amber elk]

BRO INFERNUM SKELETRON IS SO HARD

[scarlet shadow]

Holy Collider + soaring potion

[ember iris]

ill look into it, prec

[scarlet shadow]

Lion Heart + soaring once you get good enough

[amber elk]

i hate this attack

[ember iris]

not sure how I feel about the HC, its doing about the same damage as the defiled GS

but the Defiled has a tracking projectile so

[scarlet shadow]

who's defiled gs

[scarlet shadow]

oh that

[scarlet shadow]

well guess what type of melee damage restores your flight time with soaring potion

[ember iris]

🤔 yoyo dmg?

ive been meaning to go more into True melee, just cant ever find a weapon i enjoy

[scarlet shadow]

thrower dmg at this point

[ember iris]

bosses be runnin from me

[ember iris]

lol

[scarlet shadow]

are you sure you're fighting DoG

[ember iris]

other then him 🙏 🙏

he be chasin, I be runnin

[amber elk]

bro how do i beat infernum skeletron

[scarlet shadow]

well either way if you want max dmg try Lion Heart

it deals good dps on both the head and segments

[neon stag]

Stellar striker, holy collider, deaths ascension are the 3 best melee weapons for infernum dog. Go full damage with omegablue armor

[fallen horizon]

guys I need tips for ifnernum I am gettign destroyed

[neon stag]

Lead armor

[neon stag]

What are you struggling with?

[fallen horizon]

boc

[scarlet shadow]

Stellar
Striker?

[fallen horizon]

it's impossible to dodge

it makes no sense

[neon stag]

Yes

[scarlet shadow]

[neon stag]

[neon stag]

Not really

[scarlet shadow]

thats like calling Hide of Astrum Deus viable at that point

[neon stag]

Stellar striker is the best melee weapon for dog

Fuck, it might be the best weapon across all classes

[amber elk]

yessir

[scarlet shadow]

low% bait used to be believable

[amber elk]

am i goated

[neon stag]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_bn4lS56zDyotLDYc4MWoJF--QJ6upGejHSgsw1qK6g/edit?usp=sharing

[amber elk]

OH SOLYN

[fallen horizon]

that's the answer?

[neon stag]

Made by the #1 infernum dog farmer

[fallen horizon]

like it's my first time in infernum but like

this is excessive

[amber elk]

when do i have to talk to solyn again for her camp

[fallen horizon]

maybe cause I'm playing rogue

[scarlet shadow]

Stellar Torus mentioned as meta

this is unreadable

[neon stag]

Just keep looking at the main brain

The rest dont actually do anything

[neon stag]

Have you actually fought inf dog or are you just trolling for fun?

[amber elk]

goated arena

[neon stag]

I swear im gonna cry, interacting with some of these calcord members

[neon scarab]

its a good melee tier list for infdog idk what 2 say

[neon stag]

true!

[amber elk]

bee gun goated

[scarlet shadow]

the tierlist ignores all overcomplications of its fighting methods and just stuffs every sword into its peak method

[neon scarab]

ppp npcs spotted nails...

[neon stag]

[amber elk]

also is blac anurian good

[amber elk]

what does that mean

[scarlet shadow]

no distinction between rams coils and perpendicular dashes

[neon scarab]

a weapon tier list ranking the weapons for where they perform best

[amber elk]

wait are you prismaace?

[neon scarab]

prisma's pristine potions npcs spotted... nail biting...

[amber elk]

most of them died while iw as fighting skeletron prime lol

[neon stag]

Who is prismaace

[scarlet shadow]

by that logic each tier should be divided into categories for each inf DoG fighting method

[amber elk]

also creator of prismas pristine potions

[neon stag]

No I think this is a different guy

[neon scarab]

what a noob

[amber elk]

oh lol

bruh

[neon stag]

Yeah one is called Prisma and the other is PrismaAce 🥹

[amber elk]

why are there so many prismas

[neon stag]

[amber elk]

do i put solyns camp on my arena or somewhere else

[neon stag]

If youre still struggling with boc I can help more than a few minutes ago im not as busy

[neon stag]

I dont think the placement really matters, I like to keep her close to my spawn point

[waxen tide]

what even is ts

phosphorescent gauntlet as SS tier

sure pal

lion heart in A tier🥀

[neon stag]

Cuz its SS tier

[neon stag]

Cuz its A tier

Lmao

[waxen tide]

🥀

source : trust me bro

[neon stag]

you guys have done 0 actual extensive research and multiple tests on all of these weapons with multiple builds yet you yap your asses our

[neon stag]

Did you even read the doc?

Do you know who made the tierlist?

youre just yapping out of sheer ignorance

[waxen tide]

lion heart literally gets the best time on dog
how is it A tier

[neon stag]

It doesnt get the best time though

[amber elk]

why cant i spawn slime gods

[waxen tide]

[neon stag]

We are talking about infernum

Not basecal

[waxen tide]

i Know

still gets the best time

[amber elk]

cannot be used?

[neon stag]

Why do I waste my time talking to troglodytes like you instead of doing something actually useful

[gloomy wedge]

im surprised burning revelation is so high

[neon stag]

Just to clarify, I dont mean you

[amber elk]

ik that

[waxen tide]

ts

[amber elk]

anyway what does that mean

[gloomy wedge]

and im guessing phos gauntlet is mostly because of utility over damage?

[neon stag]

Imo it shouldnt actually be S tier since its very very hard to use

[waxen tide]

the utility is just harder to use than normal ram

[neon stag]

A tier would be more fitting, for the same reasoning as lion heart

[gloomy wedge]

ive seen That One Clear Of DoG In A 3 By 3 Box With Phos Gauntlet

so i know it can do some fucked up stuff

[void sorrel]

Phospho is stupid damage

[neon stag]

Its very hard to use so it really deserves its own tier, but ive seen it do some crazy stuff

It has alot of damage

[gloomy wedge]

really?

[void sorrel]

Yes

[neon stag]

yeah

[gloomy wedge]

admittedly im more of a ranger guy so, i dont know melee that well

[misty raven]

But how's short range of lion heart is even a problem vs infernum dog?

[amber elk]

what does this mean

[gloomy wedge]

btw genuinely fetid emisis is like top 1 ranger weapons for dog imo

that shit is INSANE

luminite bullets shred him so fast

[neon stag]

Cuz you can realistically only hit him during one phase

[waxen tide]

what

[void sorrel]

Means you can really only hit him during the ramming sections

[neon stag]

Also during laser, when dog has no contact damage

[waxen tide]

thats like 90% of the fight

[void sorrel]

Oh ye

[void sorrel]

Yeah but it loses out on damage due to also not having the reach for stuff like coiling

[waxen tide]

ig

Im suprised that stellar striker is above collider

[neon stag]

More dps

slightly harder to use

[void sorrel]

More dps

Less range

[gloomy wedge]

tbh im surprised devils sunrise is so low i remember that weapon being INSANE

[waxen tide]

its just worse lion heart

[neon stag]

Its not tho

You cant effectively coil using lion heart

and even when doing horizontal dashing you cant hit dog most of the time

[void sorrel]

Which one ss or devil’s sunrise?

[neon stag]

So you lose out on dps

[waxen tide]

devils sunrise

[void sorrel]

Ye parallel dashes suck with lion heart

[neon stag]

if you want a high dps low range weapon im pretty sure deaths ascension has more DPS than lion heart

but deaths ascension has the same problem of low reach so u can only use it effectively during lasers phase

[void sorrel]

Deaths right click works for coiling iirc

Or whatever is the single swing

[neon stag]

Thats the left click right

the tmelee

[scarlet shadow]

gng i went as far as learning the perpendicular dashes and stellar striker has worse output than lion heart

[neon stag]

If it does, its extremely precise to do cuz I never manage to do this

[void sorrel]

Yeah, the tmelee works

[scarlet shadow]

that tierlist sucks ass

[neon stag]

Cuz stellar striker is meant for coiling

lmfao

[void sorrel]

Cause stellar striker is better at coiling…

[neon stag]

Like are we deadass?

[void sorrel]

Like it says on the tierlist…

[neon stag]

@frank mauve do you have that one gif of calamity reading mod disabled

I need that so bad rn 🥹🥹

[void sorrel]

I recall seeing hyper do it

In one of their box vids

[gloomy wedge]

i think this list makes sense but im also very inexperienced with coil strats

i way prefer ram personally

[scarlet shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/me-not-reading-all-of-that-not-reading-allat-i'm-not-reading-allat-im-not-gif-17249058036421600208

heehee back to tech learning i suppose

[waxen tide]

would be a better tierlist if there were actual killtimes

[void sorrel]

Allat… the 3 words in total “Stellar Striker (coil)”

[gloomy wedge]

now that i think about it i actually dont know how to coil properly lol

i think i tried it for like 5 attempts on the first run and then went back to rams

[neon stag]

Its cuz kill times can vary alot even when using the same build

If you fail one coil in p2 thats already a huge timeloss

so you cant really get a precise average on the kill time, just the personal best you can get

[waxen tide]

precise killtimes dont exists

[neon stag]

If you try to look up literally any dog melee speedkill its all gonna be stellar striker/deaths ascension, and for a good reason

cuz they simply have the biggest damage output for dog in the best scenario possible

[gloomy wedge]

i have a vendetta against deaths ascension because i swear to god i remember a guy who was using it on fucking exos

[void sorrel]

43k with right click, on periif’s 50 x 50 box vid

[waxen tide]

so ts tierlist is just based on dps

[gloomy wedge]

i mean yeah most are i think

[neon stag]

Okay, I need to compare killtimes between coiling with stellar striker and deaths ascension

[waxen tide]

its subjective ig

so idc

[neon stag]

its based on what is the best weapon

[hazy cairn]

Should I change an accessory or is this enough until Moonlord? This is my first playthrough and Im currently on melee

[gloomy wedge]

theres a lot you should swap imo

community should go for spectre enchantment

[neon stag]

It compares all the weapons in their best enviroments in the best scenario possible and ranks them in terms of kill times

[void sorrel]

Because it’s just weapons, primarily, unlike with full loadouts weapons are almost exclusively used for doing damage

[gloomy wedge]

asgards should go for lump of flesh

fire gauntlet should go for pumpking's cape or betsy's heart, your choice

[waxen tide]

I mean killtimes are still more accurate than dps

[gloomy wedge]

barbarian essence should go for reaver enchant

[hazy cairn]

Ohh damn, Are those all?

[scarlet shadow]

deadass did the slitherio tech and oh wow
its better in coil against lion heart due to range difference BUT ALSO WORSE THAN HOLY COLLIDER

[gloomy wedge]

id also ditch the boots

fishron wings are plenty fast as is

[scarlet shadow]

my point about ass tierlist remains unshattered

[void sorrel]

Not really, not counting rippers, dps tells you more of what the weapons can actually do in the fight

[hazy cairn]

Alrighty, Thanks!

[scarlet shadow]

unscathed unhitten and everything else

[scarlet shadow]

Holy Collider is better in coil scenario than Stellar Striker

[void sorrel]

It ain’t…

[scarlet shadow]

it literally fucking is

[rare flame]

before i ask where would one msg questions about making an addon

[waxen tide]

dps is just still not that accurate because some weapons have more base damage higher speed etc and can still do worse than other weapons that are slower or smth

[scarlet shadow]

have you fought infernum dog or are you just trolling

[rare flame]

or is that out of the scope of this server

[void sorrel]

I have

I helped make the list…

[scarlet shadow]

have you done playtesting with all 3 weapons in each scenario

[void sorrel]

I helped make it…

[rare flame]

mostly just needing to know what the file path format of calamity's textures are so i can make a texture pack mod (ie: images/armor/name auric_legs.png), specifically for armor/weapons

[neon stag]

It isnt though

Stellar striker has higher dps

[gloomy wedge]

itd prob be better to ask somewhere like the tmod server

most people here are just casual players

[rare flame]

sounds good

[hazy cairn]

Btw what can I change the boots for

Im so lost in accesorries I knew it was getting left behind or something was wrong with it

[scarlet shadow]

Rams: SStriker < HCollider < LionHeart
Coil: LionHeart < SStriker < HolyCollider
Pp.Dashes: SStriker < LionHeart (and holy collider somewhere)

[void sorrel]

Honestly community at this point is also pretty meh, better to see what you’re lacking and just grabbing a specific acc for that, (unless there isn’t anything better)

[gloomy wedge]

a lot of stuff, fargos is a very flexible mod with accessories

[scarlet shadow]

thats how it is on my playtest

[gloomy wedge]

hell you could ditch wings entirely and use valhalla knight enchant with witch's broom

thats an EXTREMELY good build

[hazy cairn]

Alright, I think the reason was I keep on following the calamity wiki class setup so I didnt get to explore Fargo's accesorries

I mustve missed out alot

[hazy cairn]

Notedd

[gloomy wedge]

genuinely just take a few hours and make every single enchantment in the mod

they are all good (except for forbidden)

[scarlet shadow]

for fargocal stuff you'd usually get more answers from fargos discord

[void sorrel]

Yeah, fargos has a load of good enchants and great combos

[scarlet shadow]

the addon is mostly calamity armor and weapons with fargos souls accessories

[gloomy wedge]

fargo's accessories featuring the absorber from the calamity mod

[hazy cairn]

yeah I think I might do it now, Thanks for the answers

[scarlet shadow]

okay Holy Collider goes on the bottom of perpendicular dash choices

[fossil topaz]

the painter or the deviantt threw a fart flask at me

so i dumped the both of them in lava

resonable crashout?

[void sorrel]

Why stop at just them, throw the guide in as well

[fossil topaz]

i would but i got nothing to get out of that

guide did nothing wrong

[scarlet shadow]

and leave out the remaining ones? thats no way to do this

26 Remaining.

[ashen sonnet]

how do i stop skeletron from despawning randomly

[fossil topaz]

they did nothing wrong

i dont know who did it

but i saw the deviantt and painter next to me

[cedar laurel]

Kill abom too
Kill him with voodoo doll method

[neon stag]

This seems highly inaccurate, what was ur build and kill times? Did you properly coil p2 aswell?

[waxen tide]

[scarlet shadow]

nothing fancy about the build, just something that works

as for killtimes ima get some more durability first

btw all of these are unreforged

[neon stag]

actual bait @void sorrel

[mild oracle]

by any chance is this some undocumented calamity's vanities block

it's not vanilla, it's not calamity
and calval wiki doesn't show anything either

[scarlet shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/frosting-yharon-calamity-mod-calamity-terraria-gif-5013322171880848661

[scarlet shadow]

actual balling in progress

[narrow coral]

⭕

[waxen tide]

ts

[fossil topaz]

holy shit bro

forgotten shadow of calamitas is bullet hell

[scarlet shadow]

ballingless so far but Holy Collider still proves to have more consistent dps on coiled DoG

Stellar Striker can get more dps but that depends on how much DoG's head pokes outside out of the coil to eat the lunar flares

anyway back to grinding ts

[neon stag]

Youre wasting your time

Stellar striker is just objectively better than lion heart and holy collider, with the only downside to it being the small range

[scarlet shadow]

the objective part is that coiling is an incredibly inconsistent strat for weapon scaling

[neon stag]

?????

its the most effective way to kill dog

it gets the fastest kill times

[scarlet shadow]

doesnt change any bit of what i said

[neon stag]

Cuz what you said is wrong

Coiling is very consistent

you just need to know how to coil p2

[scarlet shadow]

im just accounting for the amount of segments and the two weak spots

stellar striker's flares are its main dps and most of that goes out on the heavily defended parts

[void sorrel]

As opposed to other weapons hitting defended parts?

[neon stag]

Thats how it goes for every other weapon aswell though

[round slate]

I have hallibut cannon what bullet should I pair it with?

[neon stag]

Bloodfire is pretty good

[round slate]

Is it better than cosmic slug?

[neon stag]

yeah

[round slate]

Okay

N how abt chicken cannon?

[neon stag]

bloodfire bullets have a certain synergy with halibut cannon that makes them very good

[round slate]

What should I pair it with?

[round slate]

Ooooo what synergy??

[neon stag]

Im not sure, I used halibut cannon for ares and thana

[scarlet shadow]

Holy Collider's (and Enforcer's) fireballs actually track his head so whenever its hitbox is inside of the coil it gets struck more often

[round slate]

How abt the eyes?

[scarlet shadow]

and Lion Heart has AoE explosions, which even if small still can pierce towards the head

[neon stag]

I used halibut cannon + bloodfire bullets for all 3, but its probably not the most efficient way.

[scarlet shadow]

so if lion heart had enough range it'd outperform stellar striker in coils, until then holy collider clears both of them

[neon stag]

Halibut cannon shoots hella bullets which means hella regen, theres also some other factors that make em very good but I cba to write them down rn

[neon stag]

lion heart loses to deaths ascension in terms of dps tho, so even if holy collider and stellar striker werent in the game lion heart STILL wouldnt be the best

also holy collider is worse than stellar striker

[scarlet shadow]

a ton of piercing as if other post-ml ammo types didnt have enough of that

[neon stag]

simply:
After you get hit, your regen timer is reset to 0, and takes a minute to fill up to 3600
each time a bloodfire bullet hits, you get +3 on the timer
halibut fires 25-35 bullets per attack. so that fills back up to full really fast. (48 shots if you only hit all 25)

so you regen very fast.

[scarlet shadow]

and yeah natural regen is a pretty nice bonus

[void sorrel]

Be warned about halibut, bloodfire, and thanatos, hella lag (unless they fixed it)

[neon stag]

hella lag but 3s thana fight

[void sorrel]

Yeah pretty much

3 seconds* dependent on computer power /j

[scarlet shadow]

i wasnt accounting for death's ascension in the slightest nor have anything against it, the sole un-understood part is the stellar striker's ranking

i do still struggle with coiling the 2nd phase but your arguments for stel striker havent been better than "it just is"

[void sorrel]

More segments in coils, more meteors, it can do up to 100k dps

[neon stag]

cuz there isnt anything else to it

[void sorrel]

Like easily

[neon stag]

what zorai said ^^

If I was on pc rn I would send you detailed kill time charts with clips of me speedkilling dog with these 3 weapns

Too bad im on vacation 🤷‍♂️

[void sorrel]

Like with full speedkill loadout 200k+ is achievable

It’s 2:30am for me, and I’m too cozy

[neon stag]

With a weapon available right after moonlord too

it gets a 13 second kill time on storm weaver, its my favourite way of melting it

[void sorrel]

Hard as hell to reach 200k though

[round slate]

Lb

[round slate]

Wow

So you will have alot of regen

Thx

For the advice

[neon stag]

God slayer slugs win in terms of dps, but the regen lets you make 10x more mistakes while still being able to actually recover

[night fractal]

I wonder is luxors gift good for death's ascension on infernum dog

It might be

[neon stag]

I need to keep this saved bruh

[frank mauve]

inf dog prolly too fast

[neon stag]

Worm might know about this

[night fractal]

it moves towards you

[neon stag]

Or bone reaper

[night fractal]

it wouldn't be too fast if it's moving right into the line of fire

[void sorrel]

I forget about luxors lol

[neon stag]

I pinged them both, they should be awake rn

[frank mauve]

would it even do anything

it might be js a 1k dps increase

[neon stag]

I saw worm talking not too long ago atleast

[void sorrel]

Worm: “ragebait”

[neon stag]

Yeah according to worm its bad.

[frank mauve]

does worm even know anything

[round slate]

Oh hell nah I lagged alot during most bosses

It got so bad that I ask an advice for help

[neon stag]

Theyre like THE infernum dog player

[void sorrel]

Yeah, halibut bloodfire on thanatos might be funny then

[round slate]

4 fps

[neon stag]

Theyre better than average in terms of infernum, but when it comes to dog they might aswell just be one of the best players

[frank mauve]

have they even done other classes than melee

[round slate]

I estimate

[scarlet shadow]

yeah no idk what i was hoping the stellar shitter glaze to give me in return

got 2 coils in phase 2 with ts and it havent gotten beyond 30k dps

better than phase 1? sure
100k+ dps? hell no

[frank mauve]

what is this shitass loadout gang

[neon stag]

Thats just a straight skill issue

Ive seen people reach close to 200k dps with a stellar striker

[scarlet shadow]

max crit

[scarlet shadow]

"seen people"
alr this is bait to get me prepared for my low% playthrough

[neon stag]

[scarlet shadow]

next time argument with "i reached this dps"
+loadout
+video with strat explanation
+etc

[neon stag]

Yeah I already said this earlier, I would hop on stream and show you how I get 200k dps on infernum dog with stellar striker

Too bad I am on vacation

Next time I hop on my pc ill send you the setup and compare kill times to other weapons u said were good

[scarlet shadow]

works for me

and while im the one doing the gameplay i have to mention that lion heart does get good coil dps at phase 2

but holy collider gonna be the best for me on this strat

[scarlet shadow]

i could totally use omega blue with some other dps accessories but that would leave my killtimes to crit rng

[hazy cairn]

Bruh all this time Ive been only playing with revengeance so I couldnt get some materials for an Fargo item cuz its an eternity drop 💀

Is it fine if I just turned on Eternity-Reveageance rn even tho im at pre lunar

I wanna do a separate infernum play anyway

[scarlet shadow]

amp it up to eternity death imo

[hazy cairn]

Are you sure? This is my first calamity playthrough

[scarlet shadow]

you did miss a lot of neat eternity features but even then its really good

[scarlet shadow]

death isnt much different from revengeance

[hazy cairn]

I missed up until pre lunar and im just exploring the reworked bosses rn and yeah theres a shit ton of drops that I couldve used the first time

[scarlet shadow]

fargocal's ai changes mostly come from eternity or masochist

with a bit of revengeance

[scarlet shadow]

thats usually the reason people play basecal first/separately

[maiden cobalt]

im doing death-masochist

is this a good idea

[scarlet shadow]

first time on either mod?

[maiden cobalt]

( mage playthrough)

[hazy cairn]

Do I still get revengeance drops?

[maiden cobalt]

ive player a ton of calamity but watched a lot of eternity

[scarlet shadow]

yeah if you're gonna lock yourself on a class then tune it down to eternity death

[maiden cobalt]

nah its okay

speaking of: just killed EoC
is there any mage weapons that are goated

[scarlet shadow]

i can assure you its really not monoclass friendly

[maiden cobalt]

well i know that

im playing mage until i get bored of it

[scarlet shadow]

anything from calamity setups works

[maiden cobalt]

then. probably melee.

theres been so many melee weapons

[scarlet shadow]

fargos souls mostly focus on accessories and boss ai

[maiden cobalt]

i noticed that

[scarlet shadow]

also try visiting dlc discussion channel on fargos discord, it holds a lot more ppl with proper knowledge about both mods

[cedar laurel]

Get Tim concoction today

[maiden cobalt]

will have to give it a look

[scarlet shadow]

this channel mostly consists of infernum + boss addons and sometimes thorium addon

[hazy cairn]

Alright, Ill do Eternity Death, Tho I feel like im gonna get beat up

Just so I can continue crafting Fargo Accessories

[scarlet shadow]

it could be tough to adjust to but thats entirely because of eternity mode on its own

[hazy cairn]

Yeah I struggled just now with some bosses under Calamitas Clone compared with only revengeance only

That was my mistake for not enabling Eternity the first time while having Fargo's mod

[neon stag]

Inf dog no-hit Using stellar striker.

[scarlet shadow]

is that pipis from deltarune or something
the third accessory isnt something i recall seeing

[neon stag]

Cyan golf ball.

[scarlet shadow]

oh

[neon stag]

Sorry, its actually called teal golf ball

Cyan has a slightly more blue-ish hue

[scarlet shadow]

ppl be putting anything in their accessory slots atp 💔

[coarse dune]

lmao

it's about as useful as the absorber

[night fractal]

Wild take

[scarlet shadow]

a nohit so good it made dog run like sludge god

[coarse dune]

obviously it's an exaggeration, but for infernum DoG it really isn't that much better than an empty slot imo.

[scarlet shadow]

absorber gives 12% movement speed buh

[night fractal]

it's still 12% jump speed, 12% move speed, and 8% damage from regeneraga

[scarlet shadow]

^

[night fractal]

in a nohit you can use mushrooms too

meaning more regeneraga

[scarlet shadow]

next time try using chalice of the blood god for exaggeration

unless that gets .5% movement speed hidden somewhere in its description

sometime in sso

[night fractal]

chalice would be useful if your weapon was anarchy blade

[neon stag]

You wont notice a difference between the absorber and an empty slot in an inf dog no-hit

just a very very very slightly faster kill time

[night fractal]

jump speed helps

[coarse dune]

It does yes, but I still would not use it.

[neon stag]

It helps, yes

But not enough to make a difference

[scarlet shadow]

max hp, hp regen, healing pot cd, 5+dmg=debuff
am i missing something

[neon stag]

Id rather use a blood pact than chalice 😭

[night fractal]

bleed is not a debuff, just damage over time

But you're not missing anything there

Well, you missed HP potion bleed reduction but

[scarlet shadow]

which is still a debuff even if compensated with zero initial hp loss

[night fractal]

no

It's not a debuff and that's an important distinction

It doesn't use a buff slot and it doesn't activate radiance debuff thing

[coarse dune]

I don't like chalice but yeah, that is not a debuff

[night fractal]

It doesn't get purged by absorber

[scarlet shadow]

🤔

[night fractal]

Chalice is the goat though

especially when paired with absorber and/or blood pact

[frank mauve]

i feel like the 3hp/sec from absorber is barely noticeable

[night fractal]

it's definitely noticable

[frank mauve]

id rather run dsr daytime for perma 2.5hp/sec

[scarlet shadow]

why is rampart post yharon again 🥀

[night fractal]

absorber also does 8% damage, Dr, 5% HP refund, 400 DPS (on yharon) debuff for 15 seconds when you take contact damage, move speed, jump speed, defense

[scarlet shadow]

humble defense and damage boosts:

[night fractal]

Post dog ha too many accesories

[scarlet shadow]

so yharon gets a cosmic deity-themed accessory of all things

[frank mauve]

yeah but dsr also has 12% dmg at all time and 10 def

[hazy cairn]

Just to confirm, Do I still get Revengeance drops in Eternity

[coarse dune]

Including the 2 minion slots.

[scarlet shadow]

its called eternity death for a reason

[hazy cairn]

Thanks

[night fractal]

just use both

[scarlet shadow]

and the on-hit debuff to enemies also reduces dr by .2

[night fractal]

absorber affliction is super good on yharon

400 (600 if you inflict irradiated) dmg for 15 seconds

6000 (9000 with irradiated) total dmg

plus the Dr reduction

[neon stag]

Only if you take a hit tho

having to take a hit just for an accessory to take effect really just isnt good, especially for bosses like inf yharon

[night fractal]

there's still literally everything else it does

[scarlet shadow]

hence why my rogue playthroughs end up with raw offense/stealth build

[night fractal]

like there's literally only one on hit effect

[neon stag]

12% movement and jump speed which you wont notice during actual gameplay

Wow so good!

If you say ”b-but regeneraga!!1!1” im just going to ignore, its not good compared to literally any similar accessory post dog.

[scarlet shadow]

i notice my 12% jump speed and 13% movement! 🖐️

[neon stag]

Youre also ass at the game

Argument negated, you dont deserve an opinion

[scarlet shadow]

And your skill loses to this humble setup of two buttons

I have done enough playthroughs to stop concerning myself with multiple strats on the same boss

[glad galleon]

is infernum single player only?

[coarse dune]

No, but it doesn't work that well on multiplayer

[scarlet shadow]

Playable but not recommended

[coarse dune]

It has issues on multiplayer

[glad galleon]

im trying to play a harder mode with my friends but like

i saw this infernum multiplayer mode that "fixes" things

[neon stag]

It doesnt actually do anything

[glad galleon]

so like

[scarlet shadow]

its fixes are already in infernum itself

its just a leftover addon

[glad galleon]

master mode death mode is the current hardest?

for normal calamity

[scarlet shadow]

legendary death mode

[neon stag]

inside of calamity, yes

[scarlet shadow]

ftw legendary death to be precise

[neon stag]

Gfb master death

I guess

[glad galleon]

also does catalyst work well w multiplayer

[scarlet shadow]

gfb is piss easy progression skip simulator

[glad galleon]

whats gfb

[scarlet shadow]

exploring problems aside

[scarlet shadow]

vanilla thing that remixes all secret seeds into one big amalgamation

[glad galleon]

that sounds

iffy

[glad galleon]

how do i enable legendary again

[scarlet shadow]

have "fortheworthy" or "getfixedboi" written in your seed

[neon stag]

Dont play leg death

[scarlet shadow]

alongside enabled master mode

[neon stag]

its just not an enjoyable experience for most casuals

[glad galleon]

also what qol mods do yall recommend

i havent played modded in like a year or two

[neon stag]

ore excavator and recipe browser is all you need, rest is up to preference

[glad galleon]

alr have those

[scarlet shadow]

those and magic storage, the rest is up to self restraint and preference

[night fractal]

I notice

[glad galleon]

are luiafk, alchemist, fargos too much?

[night fractal]

Also again can't forget the 5% hp refund which is effectively DR that ignores scaling

[scarlet shadow]

as if you'd know a thing about casuals you fucking coiler

[night fractal]

Does infernum yharon do Dragonfire muchM

I don't remember

If so that's another point for absorber due to debuff purge

[scarlet shadow]

they have some overkill stuff so up to you to figure that out

[glad galleon]

oh last thing, for a summoner run does catalyst add whips or do i gotta enable unofficial calamity whips

[coarse dune]

Alch npc has some dumb potions you should avoid

Pretty much all the potions added by the mod itself you can ignore

[maiden cobalt]

he does short bursts of it, but its nothing longer than 3 seconds

[night fractal]

3 seconds is still a good like, 120 dmg

[maiden cobalt]

nothing longer

[neon stag]

Having to use a potion in a situation where you might want to save it for a debuff purge really isnt as good as you might think

[scarlet shadow]

either way they're like the least troublesome part

[neon stag]

You dont get half as much value as it might sound on paper

[maiden cobalt]

its often like 1.5 seconds at the most; you’ll die to the hyperdash

[maiden cobalt]

^

[night fractal]

The aura lasts

for 30 seconds

[neon stag]

all the good parts of absorber fall off when compared to any other similar accessories pre yharon

[maiden cobalt]

oh are we talking abt absorber

absorbers my goat

SOLELY for the reneraga

[night fractal]

Absorber does just so much so well

[neon stag]

Yeah and most of the times if you want to reach the sura/bubble again, you risk getting hit again

Especially in a fight such as yharon

[maiden cobalt]

consider

and

this is novel

dont go for it all the time

[neon stag]

it just provides less value than something like dsr daytime

[maiden cobalt]

dsr daytime is mid

[night fractal]

also if you use Chalice with absorber, which is the only time you should be using absorber anyway on yharon, you'll want to drink right after being hit

which means you'll be debuff purging anyway

[neon stag]

Having to go for it at all is already a big downside to the accessory

[maiden cobalt]

you

dont

you’re not moving very much post p2s1

and you can clear a good part of your arena

before then

[neon stag]

And having to pop a potion in situations like this where you might want to save it just isnt worth it

Absorber isnt good for yharon, you guys glaze that accessory too much

[night fractal]

you wouldn't want to save it

that's the thing

[neon stag]

its actually not good even when its obtained

[maiden cobalt]

see i dont use chalice but love using absorber

[night fractal]

When using chalice, assuming you're not at max HP, you always want to drink healing potions immediately when getting hit

[neon stag]

Yes I love wasting a slot for mediocre stats!!

[night fractal]

That's how the accessory works

[maiden cobalt]

this means i get the best of both worlds; i dont fucking die AND i get the reneraga

[maiden cobalt]

dude i used leviathan ambergris.

[night fractal]

There's literally 0 reason to save it in that situation

[neon stag]

That doesnt make the accessory good

[maiden cobalt]

slots are not wasted, simply spent poorly

[neon stag]

Yeah this is assuming youve already been hit

[night fractal]

especially because using it will allow the potion Regen to start again

[maiden cobalt]

no but it accomplishes what i need

i needed a longer dash so yharons fakeouts didnt drop me

[smoky dock]

i discovered one use for ambergris

[night fractal]

yeah if you're never hit at all then absorber isn't great

[maiden cobalt]

and it fuckin worked

[night fractal]

ambergris is good for some things but it needs help

[maiden cobalt]

the only time ambergris has shown use and its because i cant be bothered to handle yharons bullshit

its extended dash is very yes

[smoky dock]

oh my use for ambergris was on Fishron

[maiden cobalt]

does trat not bungle p3 timing or

[smoky dock]

No it doesn’t

[maiden cobalt]

fun

[smoky dock]

Ambergris just gives a longer dash duration which widens the window to input a dash to successfully ram

[maiden cobalt]

well yea

on yharon hyperdash it fucks the timing

bc you’re expected to conclude the dash sooner than you can

[smoky dock]

Correct

[maiden cobalt]

i presumed itd do the same for duke

[night fractal]

Not for long

go my evil fixed ram durations in 2.1

[maiden cobalt]

what .

[smoky dock]

YAAAAY

[maiden cobalt]

why would you do this

are you deranged why would you do this

[night fractal]

instead of lasting the whole dash, rams in the valor line last 12/14/16/18 frames depending on the tier

[maiden cobalt]

wait four tiers?

[night fractal]

ornate, valor, aegis, aegis

[maiden cobalt]

right elysian is a thing

[neon stag]

So youre suggesting the player to use 2 accessories just to have the same effect something the the sponge would have

[night fractal]

okay but like

sponge is notably one of the most broken accessories in the game and also stacks with them

[maiden cobalt]

hydrogen bomb v coughing baby

[neon stag]

I really dont see a point in using your already limited accessory slots to make mediocre accessories work

[maiden cobalt]

the only time the sponge ever fumbles is with dodges and thats milo murphys into a dub

[neon stag]

I would rather use amalgam and the sponge 100% of the time rather than the absorber + chalice

[maiden cobalt]

why not. all three sin chalice.

a dodge a shield and a stat boost all around

[night fractal]

absorber is not worth using without chalice on yharon

[maiden cobalt]

mmmm!

[neon stag]

Its not worth using at all

[night fractal]

at that point dark sun ring

[maiden cobalt]

you’d be amazed

[neon stag]

Dark sun ring does the same thing as absorber but better

[maiden cobalt]

more jump speed and debuff cocktail is very nice

[night fractal]

not really

It does different things

DSR is more offensive

[maiden cobalt]

…?

[neon stag]

everything you would want the absorber for, dsr is just better

[maiden cobalt]

dsr offensive or

[night fractal]

12% damage and 2 minion slots

[maiden cobalt]

wrong! reneraga

10% dr

[night fractal]

Absorber is better defensively

[neon stag]

Tell me why regeneraga is so good

with your own words

[night fractal]

Anyway I have the solution to all these problems

[maiden cobalt]

10% dr and kickstarts your regen equation

[night fractal]

Use profaned soul artifact instead

problems solved

[maiden cobalt]

it with deific is awesomsauce

[maiden cobalt]

mmmm.

[neon stag]

Thats all?

[night fractal]

25 barrier that stacks with sponge, 3 HP/sec, offensive minions, a minion slot

[maiden cobalt]

it gives regeneration, defense, and dr

[neon stag]

you do realise you get most of that + better offensive stats using the community

absorber is a fucking joke.

[brittle pulsar]

are there any homing ranged weapons in pre hm cause infernum slime gods final phase is a bitch to hit

[night fractal]

community gives lower stats there

[maiden cobalt]

YOURE A JOKE

[night fractal]

Also community is like

Good

by that tier

[maiden cobalt]

community is hot ass anyways i could just use affliction if i wanted pure defensive

[night fractal]

community is just a joke pre-sentinels

But like, sentinels onwards it's good

[neon stag]

How did it take me this long to realise youre trolling me lmfao

holy shit I fell for the ragebait

[maiden cobalt]

who, me?

[neon stag]

You 2

Both of you

[night fractal]

I'm not lol

[maiden cobalt]

im

[night fractal]

I think you just value offensive stats much higher than we do

[maiden cobalt]

not

[neon stag]

okay, youre both troglodytes in that case :sigh:

[maiden cobalt]

if i dont die, i kill the enemy faster than they kill me

[maiden cobalt]

horned werewolf under full moon

[night fractal]

like what's your stance on fearmonger armor

[maiden cobalt]

eeeh.

for summoner its probably pretty goated

[night fractal]

if you just spawn at least one minion it's absurd for literally any class

the one minion is needed to proc the regen buff

[maiden cobalt]

yea but i dont spawn minions

[night fractal]

L

that would be part of why you don't value DSR very high

[maiden cobalt]

indeed

[neon stag]

I dont use support minions if im not playing summoner, as I do alot of challenge runs such as weapon restrictions

[night fractal]

I wonder how much contribution Profaned Soul Artifact would get for non summoner classes on yharon

[neon stag]

Where using minions would ruin the point of the challenge

I dont have a take on fearmonger

[night fractal]

I think the PSA minions also proc fearmonger

which is great

[neon stag]

Ive used it in my weaponless run, and im ngl I dont really feel the power

[smoky dock]

Boss fights only end when YOU die or the BOSS dies

[night fractal]

I mean it's 25 barrier, 3 HP/sec, offensive minions, and +1 minion slot

[smoky dock]

If you NEVER die

[night fractal]

It's a very strong accesory

[smoky dock]

The boss ALWAYS dies

[maiden cobalt]

and as the years go by
i will NEVER die.

• regenmaxxer

[night fractal]

And this is why fearmonger is broken

[glad galleon]

what this thing on my character

[maiden cobalt]

what is the highest regen acquirable

[glad galleon]

i downloaded sum mods and ion have a clue what that is

[night fractal]

Like 40-50 with shiny stone

[glad galleon]

looks like a slime

[night fractal]

40-50/sec

[maiden cobalt]

before killing moonlord, find an astral communicator

[night fractal]

Wait

[maiden cobalt]

use it, and defeat the accompanying foe

[night fractal]

I think fearmonger probably also makes shiny stone charge faster

[glad galleon]

oh

[maiden cobalt]

reasonably

[night fractal]

idk

[maiden cobalt]

i could camper but camper is hot shit

[night fractal]

15-20

[night fractal]

Camper provides no real regen anyway

It just sucks

[maiden cobalt]

its just not good

its challenge was neat but it is not neat

[night fractal]

It's literally so bad

it's like

an emblem but it makes you deal 1% dmg when moving

And that's about all it foes

[maiden cobalt]

i thought it immensely boosted your regen and damage if you dont move

but provides no defensive stats

[night fractal]

no it just boosts damage by 15% when still

[maiden cobalt]

by.

[night fractal]

It doesn't give shiny stone regen

[maiden cobalt]

15%?????

[night fractal]

and it gives a damage aura like tarragon summoner too

When standing still

[maiden cobalt]

did fabsol add this

[night fractal]

It also

gives every station buff

And gives tier 2 food buff

[maiden cobalt]

acc so ass its giving fabsol boss design

[night fractal]

And! It's supposed to make regen work like you were standing still when you're moving

But it just doesn't

[smoky dock]

it’s a really old accessory

[maiden cobalt]

i can tell

[night fractal]

And! It's supposed to make you deal 0.1x dmg when moving but it's actually 0.01x

[maiden cobalt]

it should restore 2% of a persons health every so often i think :)

like the cozy camper

[smoky dock]

yeah it already does that with improved regen

[scarlet shadow]

sounds like a new stealth rogue meta

[maiden cobalt]

what is improved regen

[maiden cobalt]

you’re so true

[smoky dock]

regeneration but stronger than usual

(thus: improved)

[maiden cobalt]

in whay context does one accrue improved regen

[smoky dock]

use camper

[gloomy wedge]

It only reduces your damage to 1% if you use anything with a projectile

[smoky dock]

the camper gives you natural life regeneration as if you were standing still at all times, even when moving

[gloomy wedge]

So clearly true melee camper is a good idea

[smoky dock]

true!!!

[maiden cobalt]

oh i see

does it count for mana regen

[frank mauve]

camper is good with tmelee 🤔

[night fractal]

not really though

it says it does but it just doesn't work

iirc

[smoky dock]

lmao????

[hazy cairn]

After playing Eternity for an hour I feel like its so overwhelming activating it later on in the game cuz of the enchantments, I should just make it as a separate playthrough and finish revengeance first cuz holy shit my head hurts from this

[terse widget]

I need this emote

[hazy cairn]

I shouldve really activated it the first time lmao

[gloomy wedge]

It’s def not intended to be something you add mid playthrough

Basically required to play it from the start

[hazy cairn]

Yeah cuz when you I asked earlier what accesorries I should change, all those things you said was from Fargo's and Eternity drops but I didnt had eternity activated from the start 😭

I was only playing revengeance

[gloomy wedge]

My advice would be to not use calamity and fargos together for your first playthrough

Just do solo fargos and solo calamity

Then when you’ve experienced both you can do DLC

[hazy cairn]

Yeah Im just going to do it on a separate playthrough, for now Ill just finish revengeance, Ill try avoiding Fargo accessories, and comeback here for help with Eternity setups

[silk void]

My game is crashing whenever I step into the snow biome, any ideas on what's going on?

Does Infernum, Wotg and Fargo souls work together?

[neon stag]

Infernum and wotg yes, not so sure about fargos souls.

[silk void]

I see

If I turn on Remnants after world generation, does it cause any issues?

[worthy burrow]

what rogue weapon for stealth providence

[neon stag]

Infernum?

[high sparrow]

is the celestial shell worth it pre lunatic?

im doing infernum

[waxen tide]

yeah

[neon stag]

really depends on class and build

[high sparrow]

melee

[neon stag]

It gets outclassed by most other accessories.

[high sparrow]

what do I use instead of it

[worthy burrow]

yes

[neon stag]

Alpha virus is best

[worthy burrow]

how

i tried it now

it just

doesnt deal dmg

[waxen tide]

replace void of calamity with it

[neon stag]

Rogue is the worst class for infernum providence

[worthy burrow]

its so slow

[high sparrow]

oke

[neon stag]

good luck

i just abused the blunder booster when I did rogue providence

[worthy burrow]

whats that

[hazy cairn]

May I know whats the name of that accessory at the very top?

[waxen tide]

void of calamity ( ass)

[frank mauve]

would it work with glorious end

[high sparrow]

what he say ye

[waxen tide]

probably not worth it anyways

[neon stag]

A rogue accessory

[frank mauve]

the rain deals 30 typeless damage while hoad stars deal 320 typeless damage 🤔