calamity-addon-talk

[maiden fjord]

as long as you just wanna use it for dashing [lunging to be exact]

[glacial wave]

okay ty

[steep cobalt]

infernum queen bee true melee

even more debuff shenanigans to whittle down her hp

[glacial wave]

how tf should i do providence as a mage

[scarlet shadow]

just use Goatss Dagger

[atomic star]

bubble gun

[glacial wave]

yeah but i die so fast because one hit is already 150

[atomic star]

150hp?

thats not a lot...

do youhave every single health buff

and some defensive accesory

you could also get the candle that increases life regen depending on your health

and blood pact

blood pact is the goat

blood pact is an acessory

[glacial wave]

k i try

[glacial wave]

what accessorys can i use too?

[atomic star]

do you have the 7 accessory slots

one from demon heart from wall of flesh

[glacial wave]

yes

[atomic star]

and one from monlo

okay

and youre on infenrum right?

[glacial wave]

yes

[atomic star]

personally id go with
amalgamated brain
the absorber
nebula mantle (the nebula wings)
sigil of calamitas
asgrads valor
blood pact
and deficic amulet (if you get hit a lot, it increases immunity frames)

or if you cant focus on drinking mana potions the replace one with arcane flower

[glacial wave]

deficic amulet whats that

[atomic star]

ah my bad

bad spelling

deific amulet

and you dont need boots since theres infinite flighttime in the providence fight

the nebula wings give a bonus when wearing nebula armor and i feel like theyre better to control than the luminite boots with wings

i personally use exodus wings since i feel like they give me the most control but they give you no buff

[glacial wave]

yeah i try it now ty

[oak jackal]

is heart of darkness not obtainable in infernum?

[atomic star]

it is

you probably just have bad luck

[oak jackal]

just wondering cuz on the wiki it said only revengance mode

[atomic star]

well what it means is revengance mode and higher

so death mode too

and infenrum as well

[oak jackal]

ok, ima try buying boss bags for all my saved coins

welp, 70 plat and no heart of darkness

[glacial wave]

DUDE I FINALLY DID IT SO MUCH PAIN AGAINST THAT

BOSS

[atomic star]

Happy to help :)

[glacial wave]

how do i get this?

[lean ice]

its removed

[glacial wave]

k

[lean ice]

do i need to make a new world if enable the wrath of the gods after i make a new world

[scarlet shadow]

all lunar wings have equal flight stats, tracers have superior horizontal speed and elysian wings are better for vertical mobility

[atomic star]

They feel different

[grave marsh]

idk where to turn on no hit with this thing 😭

[atomic star]

Well at least the exodus from the rest of the lunar wings

[grave marsh]

i'm a old head

[still steeple]

bruh my game doesn't load any kind of music at all anyone know the problem ?

[grave marsh]

nvm

[scarlet shadow]

aside from a more detailed model theres no other difference

[grave marsh]

i found it

[atomic star]

This doesnt look the same

[scarlet shadow]

oh ig i got some testing to do

[atomic star]

I was correct Vortex booster felt so fucking ass

Like bro

Ranger is already ass enough

For calamity

[glacial wave]

what weapon can i use against signus?

[scarlet shadow]

Effervescence should work

[glacial wave]

nope he moves to much

[scarlet shadow]

idk where you got that info from but ingame they do have the same flight stats

[atomic star]

well i mean

the wings arent all the same

the stats differ

[scarlet shadow]

mage is honestly bad in post-ML until you reach pre-DoG

[atomic star]

you showed a single pair of wings

[scarlet shadow]

so not much to choose from there

huh did i

[atomic star]

its both solar wings

[scarlet shadow]

oh i meant to make the second screenshot on exodus wings

[grave marsh]

how's my set up

no hit dog

[atomic star]

are you sleep deprived

[atomic star]

are you doing a true melee no hit or what

[grave marsh]

tmelee with summons

[scarlet shadow]

mobile discord

[atomic star]

i mean i think theyre the same but the other

[sleek bramble]

anyone know why solyn doesnt say anything? i downloaded wotg after beating infernum

[atomic star]

the vortex booster

and the nebula wings

[scarlet shadow]

oh yeah vortex is ass

in exchange for hover

[hearty slate]

Did you make your world with WOTG on? I believe you're meant to do that or else stuff breaks

[atomic star]

hover is useless imo

well not useless but

i prefer having control

rather than going a bit faster in a straight line

[sleek bramble]

yeah well i didnt

silly me

[atomic star]

you could say its good for running away i guess

[scarlet shadow]

thats what i say too

hence why starboard is also ass

[atomic star]

the starboard bro

it feels TOO responsive

[glacial wave]

could i change smt for signus or ceaseless void

[atomic star]

no other wings in the game feel like that

so i hate it

like when you stop clicking for example D

you stop almost instantly

[lean ice]

can anyone tell me whats this

[scarlet shadow]

elysian wings over celestial tracers, you wont need the horizontal speed until DoG

[scarlet shadow]

switch chaos stone to ambrosial ampoule

[grave marsh]

is adrenaline/rage illegal for nohitting

[scarlet shadow]

ampoule is irreplaceable til omega blue

[grave marsh]

i didnt read the rules because i know the basics

[scarlet shadow]

shouldnt be unless you use it to skip phases

[grave marsh]

imma not use it because my dps is ridiculous

[scarlet shadow]

yea

[atomic star]

there are also minimum boss fight times

so make sure you dont kill it too fat

fat..

faszt

fast

[grave marsh]

yeah i know that sir

that's why i'm not using adrenaline

[scarlet shadow]

except for polterghast

blitz polter and share the method with me ❤️

[glacial wave]

wtf

[fast nacelle]

Peak

[glacial wave]

is this good?

for signus

[fast nacelle]

It’s fine

[glacial wave]

better then nuclear fury?

[frank mauve]

nah

[glacial wave]

k ty

[frank mauve]

the aim with it sucks and it barely deals damage

[maiden fjord]

ok wotg gameplay
it's already not looking good. especially when recording it
it got like 48-54 fps in surface and then in underground, it dropped hard until the point it got to 25+-48 or something fps
when I didn't record it, it was kinda fine.

[glacial wave]

what weapon could i use against polter ghast

[maiden fjord]

yea maybe I'm gonna get the permission slip from nameless deity in new game+

what class

[glacial wave]

mage

[maiden fjord]

thorn blossom / the prince
mistlestorm
magnetic madness
purge guzzler

[glacial wave]

ty

could i change smt?

or is this fine

[chrome moth]

blood pact sucks

[frank mauve]

fr even charm of myths is better

[sleek bramble]

whats the best mage weapon for wotg?

im on infernum

[maiden fjord]

wotg infer- huh?

[frank mauve]

kevin

[sleek bramble]

infernum adds weapons

[maiden fjord]

oh
then you gotta use

KEVIN!!!!

[frank mauve]

i just said kevin like holy

[chrome moth]

kevin kevin kevin

[glacial wave]

is this good for dashing?

[chrome moth]

if you dont need ram dash yes

frees up slot that would be used for amalgamated brain

[glacial wave]

nvm cant even craft it yet

[nimble wing]

And when do you not want a ram?

[chrome moth]

when you dont need it or when its pointless

[frank mauve]

u dont want a ram against dog or yharon

[chrome moth]

but infernum tends to be a lot more reliant

[dusty cobalt]

Dawgg?

[glacial wave]

i hate polterghastz

[frank mauve]

polterghast is fun

i mean who would say that

[nimble wing]

And when is a ram pointless?

Never

[glacial wave]

wtf should i do if he dash to me

[frank mauve]

ram can be pointless sometimes

[glacial wave]

he dashes way to fast

[dusty cobalt]

Not really

Oh

[frank mauve]

what dashes

[dusty cobalt]

Polter nvm

[glacial wave]

wait

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/f3LYr_6rzyw

[frank mauve]

the one where they circle things appear?

[glacial wave]

yess

he dash to me and instant goes back

[frank mauve]

if u dont feel like circling those projectiles u can just stand and then dash into him everytime

[glacial wave]

i cant dash that fast if he goes back

hes doing this all the time not like in the vid

[frank mauve]

u have to go a lil further so he doesn't go back

its not that consistent but its easier

[glacial wave]

i like it how i dash into him but take damage

[solar badger]

I think it got changed and its actually good now

[glacial wave]

is there a way to make a big arena?

[solar badger]

cheat sheet paint tool

[frank mauve]

get dynamites

[glacial wave]

how does the paint tool work

[solar badger]

go to show paint tools in the cheat sheet menu then go to eye dropper to copy whatever you want to copy then go to paint tiles and place whatever you need

just beware you dont destroy the providence arena

[night fractal]

when you use the SUS budget ram

[solar badger]

when you have a phos gauntlet

[glacial wave]

tysm

[night fractal]

this thing

[nimble wing]

Phospho gauntlet is notably weaker than just using any other weapon + a ram

[solar badger]

true

[nimble wing]

It’s also like completely useless in base because of Fabosses

[solar badger]

lynel what to use for mechs as ranger

[nimble wing]

Looks like I mostly used cursed capper, which is now thermocline

[scarlet shadow]

Old Duke 🥺

[nimble wing]

And hoarfrost for Prime, adamantite accelerator for AS, and flamethrower for Dest

[nimble wing]

Run away from everything because there’s nothing stopping you and use a stronger and easier weapon

[scarlet shadow]

but the style points 💔

[glacial wave]

yeah fuck polterghast

i hate him so much dude

[scarlet shadow]

everyone was, does and will hate that boss

besides summoners probably

[glacial wave]

for summoner is free

noob class

[nimble wing]

Certainly not actually everyone

(I’m not saying I like it

[little steppe]

WRONG

I love it

[solar badger]

take him outside the arena given

[little steppe]

but apparently I'm a weirdo for liking it

[solar badger]

he enrages but hes much easier

[little steppe]

huh?

he doesnt enrage

he only enrages in surface

[solar badger]

he doesnt?

[little steppe]

in infernum that is

[solar badger]

oh my fault

[night fractal]

in basecal it's the same

Only enrages on surface

[grave marsh]

i'm no hitting DoG

[solar badger]

even on the surface i recall him being easier though ngl

[scarlet shadow]

bury yourself in souls of the dungeon

[little steppe]

I thought he enrages in large arenas

[torpid quest]

Preetty good boss IMO, i think the last phase on infernum is fun

[grave marsh]

and my character sometimes just refuses to have i-frames when i ram DoG

[night fractal]

Was removed a while back

[little steppe]

oh I see

[solar badger]

nah try fighting him in hell

[torpid quest]

Bro pulls out that friggin undertale moveset

[little steppe]

go my asgore

[night fractal]

Iframes from rams can be provided at most 3 times per second iirc

You're probably staying in the body too long

[little steppe]

I like polterghast and I do true melee

[nimble wing]

See, a lot of people say the desp ruins the rest of the boss, but I think the desp is the only good part

[little steppe]

even if those 2 things sound contradictory

[torpid quest]

he? She? thought i didnt know how to dodge it after all that time in undertale, little did her know, i never did know.

[scarlet shadow]

✅

[solar badger]

polts theme is good too

[grave marsh]

i'm not

[torpid quest]

i dunno, good theme, good attacks, cool phases. But yes, its just an opinion lol.

[grave marsh]

it's literally from his head

[night fractal]

yes but

The iframe per second limit

[little steppe]

imo good music shouldn't be really be counted for how good a boss is

[night fractal]

if you're getting all 3 procs from the body then you can't get iframes if you ram again too soon

[little steppe]

sure it's a point

but like

ravager's theme is peak

[scarlet shadow]

3 frames of invulnerability per second?

[little steppe]

but ravager itself is

something

[night fractal]

No

3 applications of iframes per second

[little steppe]

and that's just an example

[night fractal]

Rams apply 12 iframes, so you'd get 12 3x

[scarlet shadow]

🧐

[frank mauve]

imagine they nerfed rams

[night fractal]

Or up to 36 iframes out of every 60 iframes

[frank mauve]

thatd be funny

[night fractal]

:)

[scarlet shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/silencing-the-evil-shut-up-cat-spam-gif-12771978950366181258

[frank mauve]

half the iframes u get when ramming

🙃

[scarlet shadow]

times zero the jobs you get per application

[night fractal]

Technically we made rams iframes last less long

[frank mauve]

wait no thatd be cool if it was a gfb feature

[night fractal]

But in terms of the window where you can get iframes

not in terms of how long the iframes apply for

[little steppe]

ram dashes are replaced by bonk dashes

[grave marsh]

well can you explain projectiles that weren't even there hitting me

[frank mauve]

yes thats good

[scarlet shadow]

i wish my rampart of deities was pre-yharon again

[night fractal]

too bad

[grave marsh]

it should be pre-boss

[glacial wave]

nah i skip him so trash this boss

[grave marsh]

fr

[frank mauve]

i havent used that accessory in so long

[frank mauve]

polter?

[glacial wave]

yes

[night fractal]

not with that amount of information no

[little steppe]

now beacuse you said this it's going to be post exos

[glacial wave]

always the last phase

[night fractal]

Rampart glow up in 2.1 🔥

[frank mauve]

but polter gives a lot of good stuff

like bobbit hook and omega blue

[night fractal]

adding sweetheart to Deific definitely helped it be a better item

[grave marsh]

all the info i have is that i am not touching any of the telegraphs before he shoots

[little steppe]

polter gives omega blue

which is peam

[grave marsh]

and i get hit by a phantom projectile

[glacial wave]

i dont skip but i do it in death mode or smt

[frank mauve]

yeah u wouldnt use omega blue out in death mode

[scarlet shadow]

your skip requirement is below legendary masoinfernum? so soft

[glacial wave]

what

[scarlet shadow]

what

[frank mauve]

funny words combination

[glacial wave]

what u mean masoinfernum

[solar badger]

its good

bobbit hook the goat

[frank mauve]

fax

[solar badger]

my internet is too bad to use google for some reason what are the best bullets with thermocline

[grave marsh]

jeremy difficulty

very human

anyway imma edit my recording

cause i've been recording my attempts to see where i went wrong and also for content

[eager loom]

how would i get the depths crusher in infernum? do the fish only spawn post skeletron

[wicked creek]

No I think technically you can get it pre boss

[eager loom]

but in what layer are the fish in?

[little steppe]

infernum only changes the abyss chest items

and depths crusher is not one of em

[eager loom]

but it changes spawns and the layout of the abyss, i dont know where the viperfish spawn

[little steppe]

it should spawn in the same layer as basecal

which is uuuh idk

[wicked creek]

2-3 iirc

[eager loom]

does suplhurous depths count as 1 or 0?

[night fractal]

1

[little steppe]

sulphurous depths is 1 yea

[glacial wave]

should i use this against dog?

[wicked creek]

Dark spark is good although there's also other good stuff

Oh wait is this infernum?

[glacial wave]

yes

[wicked creek]

Get yourself vitriolic viper

[glacial wave]

what is that

[wicked creek]

Old duke drop

[glacial wave]

oh nooo

i hate him

[wicked creek]

Use phantasmal fury for old duke for the homing I guess

Or ghastly visage

[fierce thistle]

Is Wrath of the Gods still not working in multiplayer? Wasn't there a patch?
It won't let me launch a multiplayer server.

[night fractal]

It does not work on multiplayer properly still

even with the patch it just became better but not good

[scarlet shadow]

is ragnarok compatible with thorium helheim

[fierce thistle]

Is it still possible to run it?

[scarlet shadow]

sometimes playable but nameless deity is inaccessible in multiplayer from my experience

[fierce thistle]

[night fractal]

so is avatar usually

[fierce thistle]

My server specifically won't start.

[night fractal]

Because Solyn won't work in multiplayer usually

[night fractal]

does it tell you what the issue is

[fading prism]

Guys, i need help. We playing infernum with my friends. When we starting moon lord, after killing his eyes he just disappears from world and map, but his big eye steel alive. Whats wrong i cant get it

[fierce thistle]

I can show part of the log.

[gritty summit]

best class for infernum?

[warm mesa]

https://youtu.be/zaY1vZZ7RDw?si=IEL0p5hh-xI-ahW-

Oh my GOD 🔥

[safe void]

Guys, I'm playing Calamity, Fargos, and Redemption. My damage to general mobs is normal, but to bosses it's extremely low. Does anyone know what I should disable to fix this? (I'm playing the Eternity Death mod on Expert.)

[grim swallow]

Probably redemption bs

Cuz it should not be added to calamity fargo

[scarlet shadow]

redemption with 2 content mods seems like a terrible idea

[safe void]

oh i see, tysm

[nimble wing]

Redemption does not make any sweeping vanilla changes

Except for the element system and a handful of enemies have a little armor

[grim swallow]

There is a good chance it tries to add compat with calamity by giving them elemental resistabces making eye of cthulhu immune to everyhting besides lead enchant

[nimble wing]

What

[steep cobalt]

i never encountered this issue

[steep cobalt]

that is a preposterous possibility, considering it was pretty congenial for me

[eager loom]

what melee weapon should i use for infernum skeletron?

[steep cobalt]

wind blade/goldplume spear

[west prism]

is the clockwork bow really mid or is it good

i dont know witch one it is using it is so odd or feels odd

[lethal folio]

i think its good but i recommend the superradiant slaughterer if youre still post ML

[west prism]

my next boss is ceaseless void

he is fucking my shit UPPP

[fiery mango]

ahhhh, infernum void

[west prism]

yes

problematic fr

[fiery mango]

the boss of all Time

infernum cv is problematic media that shouldn't have a fandom

[west prism]

is he a struggle for everyone or am i just having skill issues

[nimble wing]

[lethal folio]

def a hard boss

[west prism]

just crafted it

taking anyones advice here ceaseless is insane

[nimble wing]

Memorize where to sit still.

I’m dead serious

[west prism]

there is no fucking way thats a good thing to take note of for ceaseless

[nimble wing]

I did say I am serious

[delicate wagon]

Infernum old Duke is so mid

[lethal folio]

nah hes fr it does work if you just sit in a certain spot

[delicate wagon]

I’m so disappointed what

[nimble wing]

You literally just have to figure out where to go sit and do nothing for half the attacks

[delicate wagon]

It’s like dash simulator but boring

Hey it’s the no hit guy from yt

[nimble wing]

Hi

[fiery mango]

obsessed with eidolon wyrm's attack where you Fucking Stand Still

peak boss design i'm afraid

[west prism]

no

[nimble wing]

What do you mean no

[west prism]

no

[delicate wagon]

Hello

[west prism]

absoloute W recomendation

fun item

[nimble wing]

Don’t believe me?

[delicate wagon]

That’s kinda boring is it

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/wWrU3hyMba4

[delicate wagon]

I mean it wasn’t made to be hard

[delicate wagon]

Trust this guy he’s a no hitter

[lethal folio]

did iit do good?

[fiery mango]

Lynel knows these bosses pretty well

[delicate wagon]

Do you got any tips for me lynel for the mid old Duke in infernum?

On melee

[gritty summit]

whats the best class for infernum 2 ppl playthrough

[west prism]

there is no way

[west prism]

big dmg upgrade to the other items they reccomend

[delicate wagon]

Yes he is

Just check his channel

[delicate wagon]

Playing solo

Infernum breaks on mp

Sadly

[nimble wing]

Ehh not really

[delicate wagon]

Really?

Did I got lied to this whole time?

[nimble wing]

It’s pretty consistently beatable, bugs are either avoidable or small

[delicate wagon]

Dang

[nimble wing]

(Minimizing your modlist is even more important than usual)

[delicate wagon]

Because right now to me he just seems a low hp dash sim

[west prism]

fucking insane lad

[delicate wagon]

So idk if I should go full on damage or tanky

[west prism]

lynel would you use prystine fury or superradiant slaughterer

[fiery mango]

I might be inclined to say go for more damage on duke

[west prism]

🤔

i used the prystine fury but the dmg is so mid

[delicate wagon]

That’s what I’m trying

[fiery mango]

his final phase is kinda something you want to be over the second it happens

[delicate wagon]

I’m using death’s ascension

[fiery mango]

its actual cheeks

[gritty summit]

and for solo?

[delicate wagon]

I see

[gritty summit]

how badly does it break?

[delicate wagon]

Mmh it depends on your taste

[delicate wagon]

I’ve just been told it barely breaks

But I’m going melee right now

As it’s my fav class

But any works

[gritty summit]

Alrighty

Im playing with my friend now together infernum

[delicate wagon]

Good luck

[lethal folio]

should i change anything for mage infernum exomechs

[nimble wing]

Superradiant absolutely murders absolutely everything

That said, don’t use it if you want things to live and do attacks and such

[delicate wagon]

I’ve heard the reaper shark necklace isn’t that good

[night fractal]

sigil of calamitas is probably better than reaper tooth

[fiery mango]

yharim's gift and reaper teeth can probably be exchanged for something else

[night fractal]

or permafrost's concotion

im ngl yhar gift is overhated

it's boring but it's not bad like people say it is

[nimble wing]

Oh yeah

@delicate wagon https://youtu.be/GuGTPEJP_dQ

[delicate wagon]

I’ve watched it twice

Trying to analyze

[frank mauve]

get the levi accessory and spam dash

[west prism]

witch of the rune of kos bosses do people ussualy go for first?

[delicate wagon]

K

[fiery mango]

Not Signus

[delicate wagon]

Right I forgot that accessory existed

[frank mauve]

theres also another accessory but im not sure

[fiery mango]

It honestly doesn't matter much they're the exact same tier and don't give you that much

[delicate wagon]

I went for ceaseless first

[frank mauve]

and its prob better

[delicate wagon]

Well I’ll check later

But the dash accessory will be fine prob

[frank mauve]

i checked and it works js as fine

and uhh i think asgard valor is better aswell

[west prism]

that worm forgot its name of the kos bosses

seems the easiest to tackle first

[frank mauve]

cuz it got a shorter cd

[frank mauve]

storm weaver

and yes he dies to anything

[delicate wagon]

I got that already

[fiery mango]

nothingburger boss

[frank mauve]

oh i thought since u were fighting od ud have the upgrade

but yeah the upgrade is slower

[delicate wagon]

Wait no I got the Elysian

The provi

[frank mauve]

yeah but that one has a longer cd

[delicate wagon]

K I’ll get that one

[delicate wagon]

Tks for the tips

[frank mauve]

so its better to use the old one

[delicate wagon]

My next is dog

The only problem will be arena

[gray apex]

the upgrades to valor are only "slower" because they have a longer dash distance the actual cooldown is the same

you can mitigate that by just pressing the other direction

[frank mauve]

yes but u get a dash faster since its shorter

[night fractal]

if you just use starboard it's not a problem

aegis becomes short problem solved

[west prism]

hes still fucking me up BUT he seems like the easiest out of the bunch

[frank mauve]

where does he fuck u up

[open flower]

Calamity wrath of the optimization

[west prism]

everywhere

when he slows down then dashes i cant predict it

get him to 12K everytime then he gets my ass

[smoky dock]

be nice to storm weaver 😭

he's so polite and handsome

[mental isle]

fun fight

why do people call yharon harder than dog

[lethal folio]

HOORAY, after a 3 week break

[smoky dock]

because they don't beat him in 1:44??? wtf kinda setup are you using

[mental isle]

i did early primordial wyrm

which really wasnt that bad once i got good enough weapons

but just the patterns feel more fair to me

well yes the dash timings might be stricter

you dont randomly get hit by the body or a random laser

[frank mauve]

is there a better accessory than affliction

[grim swallow]

What the fuck
Is this infernum?

[frank mauve]

yoo 1:44 yharon is CRAZY

[lethal folio]

yes

[frank mauve]

0:33 mechs

is crazy

[grim swallow]

How do you get 0:33 exos

[lethal folio]

oh no thats a glitvh/bug

[grim swallow]

Ohh

[lethal folio]

idk why it says tha t

[frank mauve]

dont use boss checklist anyway

use lite

[mental isle]

i wasnt even using an offensive loadout

[lethal folio]

is there any actual difference

[mental isle]

i was using some shitty revivespam loadout

if i optimized for killtime i could probably get like

i would probably die obviously because i suck at the game

but i could in theory get around like 1:10?

[small monolith]

Is there a mod that's like the old one shot in bosses thing? I forget the name but hp increases worked and events/mobs didn't insta kill but if a boss was alive anything insta killed?

[mental isle]

use nycros nohit efficiency

[vernal bloom]

gotta make a new world because I'm pretty sure WOTG is causing my game to lag like shit

[mental isle]

yeah thats wotg for you

[vernal bloom]

didn't make too much progress but it's annoying regardless

pretty unfortunate because if you disregard the lag it's a pretty great mod

[mental isle]

yeah

[vernal bloom]

like my PC isn't even bad

[mental isle]

no its something in the code nobody knows what

i was getting framedrops with a 5700x3d

[vernal bloom]

gonna try out infernal eclipse of ragnarok

for the fun of it

uuh

eternity mode doesn't work on that mod, right

[elfin gale]

am i crazy or is like super early game like around crabulon when the bosses are hardest in infurnnum i just dont do any damage compared to post moonlord bosses

[nimble wing]

Mods that rework the same content are never compatible with each other

(Except that WotM successfully overrides Infernum Exos)

[smoky dock]

It’s probably just a setup issue

[nimble wing]

Infernum Crab is pretty fat in general

But also show setup

[smoky dock]

With the right equipment they’re all beatable sub-minute

[elfin gale]

im playing mage with this im not sure what weapon to use

[smoky dock]

plasma rod is classless and incredibly good phm for several reasons

pair with slime gun for more damage output with less effort

you don’t even have to do anything for five out of six seconds and it still beats some weapons lol

[elfin gale]

wait slime gun does stuff now?

[frank mauve]

ye

[smoky dock]

Calamity upgrades the Slimed debuff

Now a target that is Slimed is considered Vulnerable to Heat debuffs, making them take double damage

Crabulon (and a lot of pre-hardmode bosses) are already Vulnerable to Heat so the two together make those debuffs deal triple damage instead

[elfin gale]

oh wow

ty

[scarlet shadow]

why do you have a double jump with wings.

[frank mauve]

its not that bad

[elfin gale]

the baloon extends flight time does it not?

[frank mauve]

u can get insta velocity mid air

[scarlet shadow]

a very nerfed insta velocity

why not sandstorm balloon

[frank mauve]

maybe they havent gotten it yet

[scarlet shadow]

easily fixable by typing "sandstorm in a bottle" into recipe browser

[frank mauve]

maybe theyre new

[scarlet shadow]

im not saying that they're gonna die without a perfect setup

just that the better option is right there

[elfin gale]

im not i just havnt bothered with it lokey

i nearing 1000 hours on terraria now im just ahh

[frank mauve]

yeah nothing wrong wit that

[elfin gale]

if beaten calamity revengence plenty of times

[frank mauve]

like in hardmode i keep the same armor for half of the pt

if it works why change it

[elfin gale]

i wish there were more turret summoner armor lokey

my favourite subclass

[frank mauve]

wait

[nimble wing]

Sentries are really fun when they work

[frank mauve]

1st sentry fan

[elfin gale]

nah i inheritted it from my older brother in my first ever run

where he played it

[frank mauve]

slimy saddle my opp

why did i not get the pogo stick im so stupid

[smoky dock]

Coming next update

[nimble wing]

That makes you the third sentry fan

[elfin gale]

so 2027 got it

still good to hear tho im hyped

[mental isle]

so close to desp

[elfin gale]

i 3rd tries revengence supreme cal just to lost to crab in infurnum

this is gonna be along run

[frank mauve]

it takes 3min js to get her to 50%

for me

[mental isle]

whats your loadout

im using illusioners which is apparently really broken

[frank mauve]

im doing scal first and since its other magic weapons only and i dont feel like using yharim crystal so im using ghastly visage

[smoky dock]

hell yeah

[lethal folio]

is there a better mage weapon for sepulcher bcus subsuming vortex lookin kinda mid rn

[solar badger]

what if it was 0.67

[frank mauve]

i fucking hate the brothers

[lethal folio]

HOORAY

[west prism]

i accidentally blew my base tf up anyone got a addon that could like make replacing the dirt easier 🥹

[lethal folio]

if you cant find an addon you can use dirt bombs

[smoky dock]

dirt bomb

depending on shape it might be faster to place manually

[lethal folio]

is rogue betterthan mage

[smoky dock]

debatable

[lethal folio]

its the last class i need to do so ig it doesnt matter if it sucks or not

[smoky dock]

rogue depends a lot on critical thinking skills

[west prism]

il stand by this mage is below mid

no one here ready for that conversation tho

[west prism]

I blew up a large chunk of my world using the hive with really explosive bullets

so uh :-)

[smoky dock]

unfortunately 5 of the classes are terrible and borderline unusable

[grim swallow]

What makes you think that may I ask

[west prism]

im using ranger but bro late game i might switch to Tmelle

[west prism]

its just mid thats my only argument 😭

[grim swallow]

Maybe you were using bad weapons

For me mage has better dps and more cool looking shit than ranger 90% of the time

[west prism]

thats what im using as ranger

and im still getting cooked by stormw weaver

might be a skill issue

[lethal folio]

i think anyone with a brain agrees

[smoky dock]

^

[west prism]

my twin 🥹 ❤️‍🩹

[smoky dock]

mage and rang*r included

[lethal folio]

hey no ranger hate

L hate on ranger

[smoky dock]

no, ranger hate

forgot the comma <3

[lethal folio]

ik its mid but i tell myself its decent bcus its my favorite class

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

pick a new favorite

[west prism]

why is storm weaver a hard boss

[smoky dock]

too polite

[west prism]

i was lwk expecting him to be easy

ego got to me 💔

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1256994458721849466/stormWeaverPet.gif

[grim swallow]

Hey rogue is cool

(stealth rogue)

[smoky dock]

bad class unfortunately

[grim swallow]

Your bad

Rogue good

[smoky dock]

I speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth

[grim swallow]

Do you want us to play summoner or what

[west prism]

rogue best class

[grim swallow]

Cuz its the strongest class

[smoky dock]

ew no

[gray apex]

play weaponless obviously

[smoky dock]

weaponless

[west prism]

talking like a T melle enjoyer

[smoky dock]

i wonder why

[west prism]

pee ew

[smoky dock]

i’m a true melee PIONEER

[west prism]

disgusting

[rustic gulch]

infernum exos:

[azure junco]

I just started my first infernum world, Idk what class to pick, just not summoner cuz I just beat expert calamity with it

[feral patrol]

how do I beat moon lord?

biome blade is on the snow and underground oen

[rustic gulch]

recommending mage cuz they become literaly god post-yharon

[hushed carbon]

This

[smoky dock]

Ideally you don’t adhere to a class at all, and switch things up based on whatever’s most accessible/appealing/effective at the moment

[azure junco]

I thought that mage was the weakest, mana issue for the same amount of damage than other class, or does that change in infernum?

[smoky dock]

setup looks fine, more or less
weapon choice I don’t like though

[gray apex]

even better use weapons from multiple classes at the same time

[west prism]

is that really what people be doing? Im sticking trough untill entierity onf infernum on ranger only and im at a blockage

[smoky dock]

Mage is balanced around mana as a mechanic

[rustic gulch]

nothing changes sytematically but new weapons are op

[feral patrol]

fr? what would you recommend?

[smoky dock]

No people don’t typically do that
But intentionally restricting your options for no serious reason is the definition of a challenge run

[azure junco]

So boring bro, I'm trynna have fun

[west prism]

i like a challenge

[primal cosmos]

wdym debatable isn't rogue like top2

best class

[smoky dock]

A very easy to use weapon is Grand Guardian paired with hide of astrum deus

[rustic gulch]

kill bereft vassel and get myrindael

[azure junco]

Melee > Rogue > Summoner > Ranger > Mage?

[rustic gulch]

this is a solid choice too

[smoky dock]

on average rogue is strong but rogue is also really easy to fuck up
The worst possible performance with rogue is worse than the worst possible performance than anything else

[hushed carbon]

I think best DPS class is Summoner

[gray apex]

surely rogue isn't considered the worst class by a large portion of the community

[smoky dock]

If someone is struggling enough to ask for help they might not have the merit to use rogue properly

[west prism]

for sure

im guessing theres no debate on that

[primal cosmos]

hell no

[smoky dock]

atm summoner is just undoubtedly the best due to the way the game is balanced by the calamity devs

[azure junco]

Rank then

[hushed carbon]

Melee only is good cuz defense

[feral patrol]

how do I fight argus?

[primal cosmos]

summoner > rogue > melee > ranged > mage

[smoky dock]

As long as a summoner uses a whip, sentries, or support weapons, they will almost always perform better

[west prism]

dmg wise summoner, rouge melle prolly mage and my goat ranged last

[primal cosmos]

melee is maybe 2nd worst

[west prism]

im guessing thats how it is

[smoky dock]

Everything else is interchangable

[primal cosmos]

and ranged third

[rustic gulch]

https://infernummod.wiki.gg/wiki/Bereft_Vassal

[smoky dock]

I don’t think it’s fair to rank the other classes because they all try to stay balanced around the same point

[feral patrol]

ty

[smoky dock]

Mage weapons for example are stronger than usual to compensate for the presence of mana and being forced to stop attacking or accept a damage penalty periodically

[west prism]

summoners dmg is insane most defo not around the same point

atleast as im playing ranger my mate is doing like 4x my dammage

[smoky dock]

Yeah, read above

[smoky dock]

^

[rustic gulch]

ranger sucks the most imo

[west prism]

he places sentries rarely

[primal cosmos]

ranged has some busted ass weapons so nah

sevens striker hellborn

[west prism]

give me one post polter

[smoky dock]

Outliers are not to be considered

[rustic gulch]

sevens striker

but thats rly hard to craft

[primal cosmos]

use*

[west prism]

is it really that good the video im watching did mention it but its a bitch to craft

[primal cosmos]

need plat coins

[rustic gulch]

CRAFT

[smoky dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[rustic gulch]

fucking coin gun

[primal cosmos]

but i think it needs 2 sentinels dead too

right

just zerg potion

or whatever

well coin gun is busted asf too

[rustic gulch]

that's true

[primal cosmos]

so you'll probably want that too

[rustic gulch]

no need for coin gun at that stage cuz other weapons have enough damage

[smoky dock]

kek

[primal cosmos]

i'm pretty sure coin gun is like top 1 weapon at that stage

[rustic gulch]

the point I was saying is that there's no stage in the game when ranger exceeds other class' dps

other than post scal

[smoky dock]

nohitters never use platinum coin gun because it’s just not possible to get above mnl with it lmao

you might see gold or silver but absolutely never platinum

[primal cosmos]

wait what

why wouldn't they use the best ammo

[smoky dock]

Because if the boss dies in 20 seconds the nohit is considered “invalid” or some bullshit

[gray apex]

to meet fight time requirements

[primal cosmos]

ohhhhh

yeah i remember that

[gray apex]

you can't really say you no hit a boss if you kill it in 5 seconds

[primal cosmos]

yeah

[gray apex]

because you basically didn't fight it

[smoky dock]

the coin gun is balanced around being prohibitively expensive to shoot, so in nohits where cheating for resources is allowed, it becomes skewed WAY out of whack

[hushed carbon]

Why tf Mage tickles infernum DoG

[lofty mist]

I mean

[gray apex]

^

[hushed carbon]

[lofty mist]

I can see why they don’t want you stalling in earlier phases and then melting the boss

[rustic gulch]

dark prism can be useful

[hushed carbon]

Like, Melee deals 20K against infernum DoG

[primal cosmos]

cuz that would be unrealistic to the weapons actual dps

[rustic gulch]

I mean dark spark

[lofty mist]

I will crash out if any of mine are invalid though

[hushed carbon]

But Mage deals 10K

[lofty mist]

I hit MNL without melting

Besides maybe phase 3 worm on perf hive

[hushed carbon]

I use Phantasmal fury

[lofty mist]

Because perferators fucking SUCK to nohit

[smoky dock]

Shit like the coin gun are exactly why it’s unfair to judge a class as a whole without disregarding outliers

[rustic gulch]

cuz Inf DoG is structured to be weak to close ranged weapon ig

[hushed carbon]

Haha

[smoky dock]

Not incorrect!

[hushed carbon]

He cant stand a chance against Melee

[smoky dock]

Not exactly correct either but

[rustic gulch]

you know what I mean

[smoky dock]

Every class barring summoner is capable of getting sub-1:20

[west prism]

how does one survive the abyss/poisonous ocean place

i have abysall diving gear but that proves little to no help

🤔

[hushed carbon]

Are u Pre or Post ML?

[smoky dock]

Abyssal Diving Gear is not enough to survive the bottom layer

[west prism]

i am on rune of kos bosses

[smoky dock]

You need the full Abyssal Diving Suit

[solar badger]

sand gun coin gun sevens striker is all a man needs

[hushed carbon]

Craft abyssal diving suit

Its the best gear for Abyss

[lofty mist]

Unironically Ranger might be the best class for DoG on infernum

[smoky dock]

:(

[hushed carbon]

Really?

[lofty mist]

Phangasm and Luminite arrows

Try it

[smoky dock]

it’s a dick measuring contest

[rustic gulch]

and use effigy

[hushed carbon]

Luminite ammo says everything

[frank mauve]

is this optimal

[hushed carbon]

[smoky dock]

a five or so second difference in killtime is not enough to be considered

[rustic gulch]

it might increase your breathing time afaik

[smoky dock]

the fastest ontier killtime i’ve seen is 1:48

so

no

[lofty mist]

Me when Kevin

[primal cosmos]

damn

[frank mauve]

im off tier by like 4 bosses

[rustic gulch]

might be wrong but felt like true for me

[smoky dock]

kevin is not ontier

[gray apex]

shroomed right?

[primal cosmos]

isn't kevin postgame

[lofty mist]

[smoky dock]

yeah

[west prism]

effigy?

[frank mauve]

man shit had me doing phases ive never seen before

[west prism]

made the abysall diving suit

[gray apex]

I love not being able to see for a 50% damage increase

[smoky dock]

I think the guy who did the 1:48 was a shroomed nohitter so he could see

[solar badger]

its weird how scal actuall feels like the final boss of infernum

[frank mauve]

time for exo mechs

i can finally be on tier now

[rustic gulch]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Effigy_of_Decay
this one but forget about it

[gloomy wedge]

because she is

[rustic gulch]

I was wrong

[smoky dock]

effigy of PEAK

[solar badger]

compared to rev

mechs feel like the final boss in normal calamity

[rustic gulch]

gives no increase in breathing time while in abyss but it gives you immunity to sulpher poisoning

[smoky dock]

anyways true melee meta use true melee 🥺

[grim swallow]

Rogue meta use rogue

[primal cosmos]

infernum true melee guys is peak

[smoky dock]

nohit infernum with true melee

[primal cosmos]

fr

[rustic gulch]

what a chad

[smoky dock]

this one guy did it and he managed to get all the way to moon lord before getting institutionalized

[primal cosmos]

exo mechs are sooo easy to just run over with tmelee

[smoky dock]

real

[primal cosmos]

i literally killed all of them in like a minute or so

[smoky dock]

Withering Dragon Rage :prayge:

[primal cosmos]

with an offensive build and stuff

fr

[rustic gulch]

dragon rage believer

[smoky dock]

it’s peam

[rustic gulch]

oh my lord

[primal cosmos]

dragon rage is so peam

[smoky dock]

oh mein gottness

[rustic gulch]

iridescent excaliber and earth needs buff

[smoky dock]

yeah

[rustic gulch]

no reason to use them even postgame

[smoky dock]

when the best true melee weapon postgame is red devil

[rustic gulch]

scarlet devil is also shadowed to storm maiden's whatever

[smoky dock]

no ew

not SCARLET devil

RED devil. The set bonus minion of Demonshade armor

[rustic gulch]

ah got it

[frank mauve]

alr exo mech down

worst subclass ever

never doing it again

why is gruesome eminence a worse weapon than i thought

[rustic gulch]

every exhumed weapons are not that good

shattered community is the only exhume worthy thing

[frank mauve]

ghastly visage is lowk better

been using it for every boss

[smoky dock]

they’re cool as hell

and that’s all you need

[frank mauve]

well cool stuff isnt gonna make me win stuff

i need stuff that work

magic guns here i come

[lethal folio]

using what???

[smoky dock]

toxic heart then

[smoky dock]

[rustic gulch]

which class would be the best to use toxic heart with

[frank mauve]

toxic heart feels like cheating if im not doing a normal pt

[smoky dock]

none of them

[rustic gulch]

[frank mauve]

i like getting damage only from weapons

[smoky dock]

using toxic heart as you would another offensive accessory is a blunder

you have to build around toxic heart to make it a majority source of damage

[primal cosmos]

even if you build around it is it even good?

i completely forgot about this item

[smoky dock]

very

[primal cosmos]

oh

[rustic gulch]

did it gets boosts from other accs and armor

[smoky dock]

my fastest DoG win is 0:52 with toxic shart

[smoky dock]

Yes

[frank mauve]

get stealth

hella dmg

[smoky dock]

currently its damage is improved by stealth

[primal cosmos]

why is there so many very niche items that are actually very good but that no one cares about for some reason

it's like the bee

[lethal folio]

come on no gatekeep pls 🙁

[rustic gulch]

gotta try it out

[smoky dock]

because critical thinking is dead and experimentation is mistaken for genius

[frank mauve]

this has been known for like forever

[primal cosmos]

i'm pretty sure it has some broken build with it to tank evertyhing or smthin

[lethal folio]

ig im just not in the know

[primal cosmos]

wdym experimentation is mistaken for genius

[brittle rover]

what is thatbro

[smoky dock]

Summarizing it in a sentence is not possible
It uses a Gem Tech hyper offense set with 200-ish heart statues to enable its retribution effect to deal damage

[brittle rover]

i see that randoom ass blackhole first time

[smoky dock]

It uses Tyranny’s End to sac the green gem for a nuke and Marked for Death

Meanwhile using uhhhhhh

I think Eye of Reverie for most of the damage on top of classic Ares’ Exoskeleton and such

Periodically saccing unused gems for nukes

[smoky dock]

✨ It’s approaching ✨

[frank mauve]

can they buff the face melter

its horrible

[smoky dock]

no

[solar badger]

provoking black clouds in isolation

[lethal folio]

how much of a nolife do u have to be to figure out you aneed 200 heart statues

[frank mauve]

not really nolife

[feral patrol]

how good is celestial shell vs pre moonlord community

[frank mauve]

probably shell is better

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/Ci0o5tswqxA

[smoky dock]

it’s not really “I need 200 heart statues” and it’s more like “whew I set up 200 heart statues I really can’t be fucked to make more”

[primal cosmos]

yo lihzard when you said that experimentation is mistaken for genius what did you meant

[smoky dock]

Just do weird shit and see what happens
Most of the time it’ll do nothing of note but you might find something seriously surprising

[grim swallow]

Community has 1 use

Being shattered

[smoky dock]

real

[primal cosmos]

okayy

[smoky dock]

that’s how people find the most obscure fucking bugs of all time

[grim swallow]

My stupidest build ever was the sir debuff loadout
I had all 7 of my accessories be debuff doers

No wings

No dodge

Just debuffs

[smoky dock]

Like earlier I noticed someone discovered that Calamity inherits flask effects

[primal cosmos]

so like if i build with the bee which is my favorite item i may make an actually interesting build

[smoky dock]

But only if you’re wearing rogue armor

[gray apex]

desp is half the fight lmao

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[primal cosmos]

?????

lol what kind of bug is that

[grim swallow]

And surprisingly the build was actually viable

[primal cosmos]

imma do it

[smoky dock]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JudG6Jz_8uAOlFXOhW630dtHIHAVK8s4gmz9UxmiL5E/%3Fsize%3D48%26name%3DShrug/https/cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897798243793137665.webp

Be a Bee Pioneer

[grim swallow]

But only for the boss I made it for

[smoky dock]

Bee a pioneer

[frank mauve]

bee

[grim swallow]

Bee the bee

[west prism]

🅱️

[frank mauve]

yoo i get to use the shpc

[primal cosmos]

i'll bee the bee i've always wanted to bee

[frank mauve]

best weapon ever

[grim swallow]

Bee the bee you're supposed to bee

[frank mauve]

i feel like using the vanilla magic guns is cheating

🤔

[north cedar]

how broke is soul of eternity

what buffs does it give

[frank mauve]

everything

[gray apex]

its literally the last accessory you make in souls it gives you every effect of every item before it and some

[north cedar]

like

does it give permanent ironskin

permanent adrenaline...

[frank mauve]

🗣️

[gray apex]

do you know what the enchants and souls do?

[north cedar]

no i never played the mod

[gray apex]

[north cedar]

im js curious how powerful it is

[gray apex]

basically immortality and a shit ton of damage

[north cedar]

duh

but what else

does it remove cooldowns from armour set bonuses

[gray apex]

Fargo's wiki look at those and you see what the Soul of Eternity does

or just play the mod idc

like I can't list every effect here because it would take 10 billion years

I also don't know every effect

[north cedar]

is it harder than infernum

[gray apex]

https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Soul_of_Eternity

[gray apex]

eternity no, masochist yes

[north cedar]

masochist time

infernum was easy

[gray apex]

Legendary Maso absolutely

[north cedar]

ew legendary

i like my seed to be random

[gloomy wedge]

you may as well be using dragonlens

[gloomy wedge]

yes

[west prism]

in what order should i fight the KOS lineup

i am struggling hard.

[frank mauve]

storm weaver

[chrome moth]

you can also just skip

[frank mauve]

i mean its whatever first upgrade u get

[crude pebble]

BRO
SO
WHEN THE FUCK
DOES ROGUE GET GOOD IN INFERNIUM BRO
WHEN
CAUSE TELL ME WHYU IM DOING 5K DPS FOLLOWING A ROGUE INFERNIUM GUIDE
PRE DOG BTW

[frank mauve]

skill issue i think

[crude pebble]

ragebait is so ah

[west prism]

might trully be a skill issuea

[frank mauve]

dont tell me u running full silent 💔

[chrome moth]

its true

[crude pebble]

nope

im legit spamming bro

im using the

clotz youtuber guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmx3jxoeFPs

[frank mauve]

NOOOO

[crude pebble]

WHAT

[frank mauve]

yt guides

💔

[crude pebble]

what

wats wrong w em

??

[frank mauve]

everything

use the calamity wiki guide