infernum works only with calamity
#calamity-addon-talk
dense eagle
you cant combine fargos to it if you plan on playing with infernum
otherwise it would explode
rigid bobcat
infernum works only with calamity
i think it works with fargos dlc too since i saw like an option to overide infernum difficulty bosses
dont take my word for it
dense eagle
i think it works with fargos dlc too since i saw like an option to overide infer...
damn
maiden fjord
yea. since infernum was considered a finished project and will not receive major update anymore. even so, the dev was decided to not update the mod to 1.4.5 in the future and will stay in 1.4.4
meager gulch
yea. since infernum was considered a finished project and will not receive major...
Why would the dev just kill one of the more popular terraria mods like that?
maiden fjord
yeah idk about that
dense eagle
Why would the dev just kill one of the more popular terraria mods like that?
They didnt killed it
meager gulch
Not updating and not no majour updates will kill the mod
Very fast
When 1.4.5 drops
dense eagle
They want to work on another project
So they gave it to someone else who could maintain it
Nobody really wants to touch it
And when 1.4.5 will release, they would need to spend time to port it and balance it
Also calamity plans to retier bosses
Which would force to rework the bosses again
rigid bobcat
i love wrath of the machines
scarlet shadow
this'll probably do for my 22nd attempt of today
violet hill
how do u stop\ thisl
maiden fjord
there must be no nearby place to teleport to in the underworld
scarlet shadow
how do u stop\ thisl
get some floor on yo underworld 🤯
jovial tide
infernum completition is enough for me
dusky ingot
Couldn't even kill Nighttime Infernum Providence with Blindfold on while getting circumsized with a Sawmill
Skill issue
crimson junco
what is the mod that gives bossfight stats after a bossfight like fight speed and fight slowdown in chat
jovial tide
guys what mod bundle shoild i now do as my summoner playthrough?
(it should have calamity and infernum)
maiden fjord
what is the mod that gives bossfight stats after a bossfight like fight speed an...
it's nycro's nohit efficiency
also if you wanna see how much damage you deal besides the dps meter, you can use dpsextreme and/or better damage calc
crimson junco
it's nycro's nohit efficiency
also if you wanna see how much damage you deal bes...
is it safe to add to na existing world i just want to see if my fights are slowed down because of lag
sick pendant
can i use wrath of the gods and infernum together
and can i add infernum to an existing world
maiden fjord
I don't think those two are best paired with each other
also about adding wotg, you must make a new world
sick pendant
okay thank you
fading dove
wotg and inf don't interfere with each other
there's specific measures put in place to make the game beatable
umbral crest
Is there a mod that let's you play different music during boss battles?
fading dove
ultrasonic acts as a jukebox
dense ocean
Infernum let's you do that... but also you'd need to play Infernum, which if that's not what you want, not a good option.
fading dove
all you've gotta do is possess the right file types
(mp3)
(it only accepts mp3s)
there's also touhou little friends
fast nacelle
Tbh just play with Spotify, SoundCloud or YouTube in the background
umbral crest
I just want to beat Moon Lord with Guardian playing.
maiden fjord
what guardian?
dense ocean
A song named Guardian.
umbral crest
what guardian?
Deltarune Titan theme.
maiden fjord
ohh
umbral crest
Tbh just play with Spotify, SoundCloud or YouTube in the background
Nah, that's pain in the ahh.
To Alt Tab to YouTube when fight starts/ends.
fast nacelle
I just want to beat Moon Lord with Guardian playing.
There’s a texture pack for that iirc
Or resource pack
I guess
maiden fjord
le music pack
I use fate music pack rn
smoky dock
fighting infernum cryogen on true melee be like
I know a guy who knows a thing or two
What’s your weapon? Setup?
faint beacon
What’s your weapon? Setup?
got adamantite because I went fishing but dw I know the fight is just waiting until it charges at you
💀
fast nacelle
got adamantite because I went fishing but dw I know the fight is just waiting un...
Use debuff buil
Flask of cursed flames and such
faint beacon
alright
fast nacelle
Frost armor
smoky dock
Hellfire Treads are pretty much mandatory
fast nacelle
And fireball
smoky dock
Mollusk armor can give you a very strong debuff to help if you go through the tiny chore of baiting the shellfish into latching on
Uhhhhh Brimlance is your best available weapon because
fast nacelle
Frostburn otherwise I guess (but probably not)
smoky dock
Debuf
fast nacelle
Uhhhhh Brimlance is your best available weapon because
DEBUFF!!
smoky dock
👍
faint beacon
alright
half lagoon
smoky dock
I am the CEO of true melee
fast nacelle
What am I then
smoky dock
Chopped liver
half lagoon
I am the CEO of true melee
true melee propagandist
smoky dock
fading dove
there's also touhou little friends
plush pendant
what did this guy do at this time stamp? he vein mines an ore vein that wasnt there before and it looks like it got replaced by dirt? https://youtu.be/L9fPNZV0-bk?si=Zzz_ZAR3jXGXzdFK&t=176
faint beacon
I have global trinkets mod does it just have all 4 candles active at once lmao
faint beacon
which should I use
maiden fjord
no
use only one of them
faint beacon
I know that's what I'm asking
wicked creek
which should I use
Personally I'm a Regen candle fan
plush pendant
i also like regen candle the most
faint beacon
alright
plush pendant
what was that
faint beacon
scam
faint beacon
auto mod prob has the link in its blacklist
smoky dock
yeah we have an automod designed to catch things like that
anyways personally I think all four of the candles are super well balanced so you’re never wrong in picking one over another unless it’s obviously going to do nothing
cunning folio
i miss times when you were able to stack their effects in aoe
instead of being limited to only using one
plush pendant
last time I played it was like that, did they get buffed in compensation other than it being a station-like buiff
maiden fjord
this is just king slime btw
attempt 16
rookie number 
[nah I'm joking]
plush pendant
this is just king slime btw
i assume you can't hold click? if so that sounds awful lmao
maiden fjord
it's named clicker class for a reason
slate obsidian
About to finish my first REAL no cheat run on calamity and ima beat yarhon tonight
any advices?
im playing normal mod
maiden fjord
2 hours is crazy 😭
nah it's 2 minutes
slate obsidian
damn got scared 😭
smoky dock
yall got any generic loadouts
that is the most generic true melee loadout possible
median kiln
this is with boot and wingslot
smoky dock
the only way it could get more generic is with solar wings
narrow coral
does it involve mushroom spear
i found out that it kinda shreds him
with mollusk armor and a bunch of fire debuffs
narrow coral
if you position right he flies into the little lingering mushroom things
which procs all the debuffs
i shaved like 2 minutes off the fight after i figured that out
smoky dock
But it doesn’t proc Brimstone Flames, and you could already donk cryo enough to keep them active in the first place
I definitely think it’s a much easier to use option though
Looks huge
narrow coral
that's where abaddon comes in
i didn't even know it was a real accessory until it randomly dropped from a red devil
jagged narwhal
Just checking, and I realized that Statis' Blessing and Amalgamated Brain aren't a good combo. Those two are dodging accessories, and they both share the same cooldown. You also advised me to use two dash accessories
wicked creek
Just checking, and I realized that Statis' Blessing and Amalgamated Brain aren't...
Statis BLESSING not statis NINJA BELT or VOID SASH
jagged narwhal
Statis BLESSING not statis NINJA BELT or VOID SASH
oh fuck. mb sorry
yea, i have crafted it
i didnt read it correctly
wicked creek
It's ok. Statis ninja belt is post Moonlord anyways and you were post plantera when I told you that
austere carbon
infernum wof is so weird
like its not a hard fight but it felt weird that it was basically just a gimmick fight
narrow coral
wall of fish
steep cobalt
well this playthrough was a wakeup slap for me to realize how punitive infernum can be
steep cobalt
hi there pooper
steep cobalt
use featherfall, kids
dusty cobalt
For what boss
rotund temple
What is catalyst mod?
maiden fjord
What is catalyst mod?
an addon that adds astrageldon. a pre-moon lord superboss
also adds variety of flamethrowers and whips 🙂
maiden fjord
oof how did you get that long killtime?
faint beacon
true melee gameplay and me not knowing how to deal with this boss on true melee
lean oak
so what calamity attacks does mutant have?
I've seen the provi, pbg, calamitas, dog, polti, slime god and old duke attacks
maiden fjord
yharon bullet hell attack 🙂
lean oak
what else?
lapis viper
best tmelee weapon for dog?
faint beacon
should be collider
smoky dock
kek
smoky dock
best tmelee weapon for dog?
holy collider and lion heart are the big ones
the former is weaker and easier to use
smoky dock
<@412104615941898240> lol lmao
still way faster than my first cryos
22 and 13 minutes lmao
narrow coral
what a calamity
narrow coral
where would we be without hook of dissonance
faint beacon
six feet under
narrow coral
real
cedar laurel
what else?
Anahita in phase 1
smoky dock
now that you have avalanche you will use it for one fight and then throw it into the garbage forever
unless you’re in the insane asylum and are going to use it post-plantera
narrow coral
is destroyer that one fight
ripe hill
avalanche isn’t the best option for destroyer anymore
Which one is then?
smoky dock
subshockerrrrr <3
jagged narwhal
Wrath of the Empress made by lucille can make characters crash permanently if you disable it and this happened to me. crashed for the third time. he said in the description it only reworks the empress, such a lie
smoky dock
jagged narwhal
i couldnt even find a comment section in the workshop
im really frustrating
only Calamity mod he made doesn't lack optimization ig
jagged narwhal
Can we backup characters? Just like world
fickle wasp
Can we backup characters? Just like world
just copy the files
meager gulch
does the fancy sky mod affect the Wrath of the gods background thing?
jagged narwhal
does the fancy sky mod affect the Wrath of the gods background thing?
Background is just an image, isnt it?
dusky ingot
Background is just an image, isnt it?
And age is just a number
meager gulch
ion know, wotg has a black hole in the background post moon lord ive been told
dusky ingot
Or something
dusky ingot
ion know, wotg has a black hole in the background post moon lord ive been told
That is true
I hear it lags game for some people? Or is it just WoTG alone and not the sky?
meager gulch
i js beat moon lord, its just that i didint wana miss the background changing guz of a mod lol
would kinda suck
fading dove
wotg has a mysterious curse of lag with unknown cause that permanently affects a world
jagged narwhal
ion know, wotg has a black hole in the background post moon lord ive been told
Ohh that black annoying thing. I think it wouldnt affect since i could see the pixel
dusky ingot
i js beat moon lord, its just that i didint wana miss the background changing gu...
Ehh who cares
fading dove
everything in the mod is very well optimised
meager gulch
i do :( i like black holes
jagged narwhal
everything in the mod is very well optimised
True
fading dove
its just the curse of lag that does shit
dusky ingot
Exacccctly
jagged narwhal
Every mod she has made has always been optimized well
meager gulch
i feel like the catalys mod armour is abit unbalanced xd
doubled my dps and deffence right before moonlord
fading dove
yeah it ranges from preml to post polter in strength
jagged narwhal
i feel like the catalys mod armour is abit unbalanced xd
They do, thats why trying play on master mode
dusky ingot
i feel like the catalys mod armour is abit unbalanced xd
I mean items supposed to be post-provi in terms of strength
Which I think is kinda stupid
meager gulch
They do, thats why trying play on master mode
im on infernum
fading dove
metanova rogue is abysmal dogshit so its a decent stepping stone between hydrothermic and empyrean
fading dove
metanova summoner is weapon dependent, but works wonders when it works
jagged narwhal
im on infernum
I kinda wonder which harder. Infernum+expert or master+death
fading dove
master death
jagged narwhal
Master suckcss
Why bro
fading dove
but not in a good way
meager gulch
the armour with plauge tainted SMG kinda went hard
dusky ingot
I kinda wonder which harder. Infernum+expert or master+death
I think Infernum has higher skill ceiling, but Master Death harder overall?
fading dove
plague tainted slop machine gun
jagged narwhal
Yea, expert+death is easier than normal master. It has been proved
meager gulch
doesnt master death just buff deffence, health and attack but nothing else
jagged narwhal
Bad stat inflation
I experienced it😔
dusky ingot
doesnt master death just buff deffence, health and attack but nothing else
Not
It adds some stupid things to bosses
Some are fine, some are absurd
jagged narwhal
doesnt master death just buff deffence, health and attack but nothing else
Just try it bro, u will be suffered
fading dove
master death is like a swordfight but your opponent also has a gun
infernum is like a swordfight but your opponent is link from zelda
jagged narwhal
I played calamity on normal master mode and i thought expert+death mode is harder but now i know i was wrong
dusky ingot
master death is like a swordfight but your opponent also has a gun
infernum is l...
Master Death is like a Sword duel but you fight with a pair of chopsticks, while getting impaled up your anus
narrow coral
yeeouch!!
jagged narwhal
I think calamity entropy was meant for master+revengance or even harder
gloomy apex
Infernum is (and I mean this in the most positive way) predictable. Once you get into the rhythm. It's usually pretty smooth sailing
Except king slime fuck infernum king slime
fading dove
inf isnt as hard but its much more fair
i cant think of anything thats unfair in inf off the top of my head
terse wren
Chat Im post Moon Lord now, ranger class
fading dove
outside of like
faint beacon
now that you have avalanche you will use it for one fight and then throw it into...
which fight
fading dove
the time turning to night during prov's death anim
terse wren
Based on my past playthrough as rogue, I am dreading Profaned Guardians T^T
fading dove
and even then that has nothing to do with the fight itself
gloomy apex
Post-ML is where id argue infernum is harder than base cal, but thats because everything gets cranked up and has a last stand kind of deal
smoky dock
which fight
AS
dusky ingot
Chat Im post Moon Lord now, ranger class
GL
meager gulch
bro ive been reading the end credits for 5 minutes
dusky ingot
R*nger
meager gulch
have mercy
loud ibex
is warding worth it on eternity death
dusky ingot
me and a friend getting cooked on prime
Then maybe try other mechs?
Unlesss you beat them already
dusky ingot
Then try Fishron or Plantera for fun
smoky dock
Hell yeah
fading dove
eternity prime isnt even hard
smoky dock
loud ibex
also we somehow got soul of fright
just sitting in our storage
so we made full chlorophyte
smoky dock
Subshocker is firmly in SS tier
loud ibex
and hes still slapping us silly
dusky ingot
also we somehow got soul of fright
Your friend cheater frfr
fading dove
are you trying to destroy the hands
smoky dock
It depends on scenario
dusky ingot
Does less at long-range
fading dove
a debuff build is quite good on prime thanks to the 9 targets
loud ibex
i tried debuff build it was cheeks
fading dove
though do be aware ori ench is nerfed when an enemy has daybroken or shellfish
also you clearly didn't use a debuff build right
terse wren
Any ranged weapon suggestions for Profaned Guardians?
crystal trellis
Any tips on maso deviant? She lowkey feels Impossible
fickle wasp
its the best postml weapon
agreed
fading dove
Any tips on maso deviant? She lowkey feels Impossible
mobility is quite useful
dusky ingot
Any tips on maso deviant? She lowkey feels Impossible
Motivation
fading dove
also watching nohits
crystal trellis
fading dove
yeah
fading dove
megashart
loud ibex
man
dusky ingot
Megafart
fading dove
rustrifle requires being good though
dusky ingot
You could also just kill Primordial Wyrm and get Halibut Cannon
terse wren
ಠ_ಠ
loud ibex
bro is there no way to buy fargos bags
fading dove
you have to play the game
loud ibex
how much dmg does rustrifle do
im gonna weigh the pros and cons
im doing like 1.5k dps on prime rn with megashark
faint beacon
@smoky dock what's the setup for queen slime
haven't fought that
also idk if I can even fight her
since my hallowed is
astral'd
dusky ingot
Trusty Hallowed seeds:
faint beacon
moreso asking about the weapon, guess I'll just use ava or smth
fading dove
how much dmg does rustrifle do
wicked creek
moreso asking about the weapon, guess I'll just use ava or smth
What class
faint beacon
true melee
wicked creek
I believe bladetongue
dusky ingot
I believe in you
loud ibex
lowkey would rather go die to this guy 60 more times until i get lucky
meager gulch
i dont get why ppl complaining abt the snow from wotg so often its so cool looking'
dusky ingot
lowkey would rather go die to this guy 60 more times until i get lucky
"Getting lucky" won't get you far in life efficiently
You need motivation, and testing, and unique skillset
dusky ingot
i dont get why ppl complaining abt the snow from wotg so often its so cool looki...
I mean, it destroys some things you place and stuff I think so not the best thing for builders
Especially since it lasts for so long
dusky ingot
I think it's pretty annoying tbh
loud ibex
"Getting lucky" won't get you far in life efficiently
shut up loser watch me get lucky
dusky ingot
Cause it just lasts so long
faint beacon
I can't even play with wotg on since it nukes my fps in sunken sea and sulphurous sea
lmao
shadow dust
Which is harder Terraria Base on Master or Reveagance (Expert)?
meager gulch
Cause it just lasts so long
ion know, it drops my fps a bit but its not that bad
really makes the game feel more creepy after a big black hole appears
dusky ingot
I think it gets kinda tiring after it being constantly dark for like 10+ hours
Especially on repeat playthroughs
bold moss
looks so atmospheric now
Very cool
meager gulch
thanks man :D
bold moss
I think lots of people don’t really do any building in calamity, it makes sense since it’s a content mod but I like some of the blocks
Cosmolite bricks look so damn good
meager gulch
I think lots of people don’t really do any building in calamity, it makes sense ...
i built a small city typa thing
like 6 houses or so with diff styles guz am practicing building ;p
faint beacon
I think lots of people don’t really do any building in calamity, it makes sense ...
the most I do is build boxes and do other things
bold moss
Fair 😭
smoky dock
I think lots of people don’t really do any building in calamity, it makes sense ...
i looove cosmolite
i can use it for my cruel and unusual torture-inator
fickle wasp
i looove cosmolite
cosmolite colors are so pretty
loud ibex
is lifelight even worth doing should i skip
static kestrel
You should fight everyone
meager gulch
is there any items that let you freely teleport across the map in calam?
fading dove
is lifelight even worth doing should i skip
has some of the best weapons available
meager gulch
damn
fading dove
there is the momentum capacitor which lets you move really fast
but no teleportation
meager gulch
i cba to run all the way to the other side of the map constantly
wicked creek
is there any items that let you freely teleport across the map in calam?
Well there's the base terraria shellphones and pylons and teleporters
What more do you need
And infernum adds the wayfinder too
fading dove
pylons
static kestrel
Just set up Pylons like normal alongside the Shellphone
fading dove
crags pylon doesnt need npcs
meager gulch
nah ill just run 💔
narrow coral
using beds to change spawn points is pretty useful too
meager gulch
momentum capacitator is what i needed, thx
smoky dock
is there any items that let you freely teleport across the map in calam?
No
But you can use Teleporters
loud ibex
so
why did i waste half an hour killing lifelight
for it to do 1k less dps than my megashark
fading dove
for it to do 1k less dps than my megashark
are you using the m2
loud ibex
yes
fading dove
are you hitting with it
loud ibex
smoky dock
yeah harder to use/less accurate weapons tend to be stronger
the opposite is true too
Find a good balance for you
slate obsidian
<:XD:936106628833488906>
Why you shiny? you 1/4096 or what?
fickle wasp
1/many more actually
slate obsidian
oh
smoky dock
1/8192
fickle wasp
is it actually
smoky dock
It was in old gens
I don’t remember exactly when but shiny rates were doubled to 1/4096 were they are today at some point
Gens 2 thru 5 had that lower rate
fickle wasp
what oh
lunar dagger
Does community remix adds a pre hardmode anahita ? I fought one during a blood moon
fading dove
I don’t remember exactly when but shiny rates were doubled to 1/4096 were they a...
it was gen 6 that doubled it
smoky dock
No, Anahita can spawn at any time
smoky dock
it was gen 6 that doubled it
yea
lunar dagger
No, Anahita can spawn at any time
This one's name was anastasia
fading dove
for it to do 1k less dps than my megashark
megashark high velocity, megashark crystal, megashark chlorophyte, megashark hallow point, lightslinger high velocity, lightslinger hallow point
tldr; lightslinger far surpasses megashart
waxen tide
okay but lifelight weapons are just dumb
dusky ingot
same loadout was used for all tests
Angel Treads smh my head
fading dove
the fart jump helps
waxen tide
treads are goated smh
dusky ingot
treads are goated smh
Fairy Boots are peak
So many defensive stats
So good
Tho maybe it worse in Fargo's I guess, didn't really play Fargo + Cal
fading dove
fairy boots dont give much mobility
restive rune
okay but lifelight weapons are just dumb
why
fading dove
just decent running and a little bit of flight
dusky ingot
I love me my chomker builds
restive rune
does the dlc mod also buff the drops
since it makes the bosses way harder
and further in the progression by a lot
smoky dock
fairy boots dont give much mobility
who the hell uses fairy boots for mobility
tbh I forget that it even makes me faster
I use it because 10 defense and 2 HP/s is crazy good for an accessory
fading dove
also fairy boots require turning spawn rates on
night fractal
who the hell uses fairy boots for mobility
Anyone who pairs them with angel wings
smoky dock
i’m a nohitter and I don’t disable spawns
dusky ingot
I mean, I guess if your game bugs out and a boss is constantly alive then I guess Fairy boots wouldn't work usually since Boss alive disables spawn rates?
Though you can also just disable that setting
loud ibex
why are dungeon mobs psawning in my ocean
how do i make an ocean biome
cuz i think my ocean is fucked
static kestrel
Ocean biome is a fixed biome
There is a mod that removes the restrictions which lets you build artificial ones
also lets you build other artifical biomes you usually cant
smoky dock
The ocean is defined as "Anything within X blocks of the world borders"
loud ibex
i accidentally drained the ocean a few days ago
i assumed thats what made my ocean start spawning in random mobs and not ocean mobs
smoky dock
There is no way to build an artificial ocean and there is no way to "disable" or "invalidate" the ocean
Are you playing Fargo's Souls
silent gyro
how bad is infernum queen bee
smoky dock
yes
smoky dock
does it do that
yes Souls expands spawn pools
silent gyro
but its also a convenient way to put off fighting skeletron
static kestrel
There is no way to build an artificial ocean and there is no way to "disable" or...
smoky dock
Yeah but why would I use a mod for that
THat's like... an entire mod. I already use too many
smoky dock
The world isn't bugged, it's just a side effect of Souls' expanded spawn pools and the lack of water in the ocean to disable normal spawns
static kestrel
Well in that case all he needs to do is fill it up
faint beacon
subshocker moment
faint beacon
I didn't
smoky dock
What'd you use?
faint beacon
breaker blade and night's edge lmao
smoky dock
oh my god lmao
faint beacon
ok so do I just use a generic setup for twin
smoky dock
ironically that actually was better than my first cryos which used Titanium Trident
yeah for twins you don't need anything special but I'd suggest Frost armor and a ram of some kind
faint beacon
I'm using deep diver
smoky dock
yeah that's fine
I used Ornate because a longer dash distance means less precise timing necessary to successfully ram but it's not the biggest thing to stress about
faint beacon
running full warding cause skill issue
loud ibex
what is a subshocker
faint beacon
submarine shocker
smoky dock
Subshocker is shorthand for Submarine Shocker, a true melee weapon dropped by Aquatic Scourge
faint beacon
dagger from aquatic scourge
smoky dock
notable for being Fucked Up and Evil
faint beacon
it does a hilarious amount of damage for how early yo ucan get it
wheat pewter
DoG was way harder than scal
smoky dock
subshocker dealt.... too much damainch......
loud ibex
lol what it looks so ass
smoky dock
and i got the wrong desperation 
which meant i was twelve seconds under mnl and am now a fugitive of the law
loud ibex
nvm wtf 5k dps
faint beacon
brother was not looking
smoky dock
DPS is a terrible metric, especially for true melee where the deviation between peak and trough damage is like, super high
I have a clip where, even through double rippers, subshocker had like, 24 DPS
smoky dock
real
the best fights are the ones where you can deal damage 100% of the time, it's just so euphoric
narrow coral
realer
faint beacon
yeah like dog
narrow coral
and wall of fish
smoky dock
providence...
faint beacon
I'm playing wheelchair sam while using murasama against yharon
smoky dock
maybe it's a combination of the hit sounds, hit rate and bloated HP but providence tmelee is a special kind of satisfying
didn't the official VA make a cover of that
faint beacon
yes
narrow coral
I'm looking forward to ture melee provi
faint beacon
official singer you mean
narrow coral
although that's a while from now!!
faint beacon
narrow coral
honestly quite
faint beacon
dot moment
neon dew
any recommendations for which arrows to use alongside the tsunami in infernum?
narrow coral
dot moment
carried by town npc 🔥
silent gyro
not lookin forwards to this
warm rock
how the HELL do you dodge the bullet hell phase when providence goes down into the lava in phase 2 (infernum)
grand iron
why is barghest the bereft vassal so strong
also why does they exist
and why are they in a portal
has lady karma ever explained any of this
fading dove
where would you put the lost colosseum
grand iron
in the desert
elder nebula
space
fading dove
in the desert
yeah where
grand iron
expand the desert generation
we don't need all this forest biome anyway
if you can fit a pyramid you can fit a colosseum
fading dove
the colosseum is like 5 pyramids wide
elder nebula
yeah tf
grand iron
make the desert 5 times as wide then
elder nebula
fading dove
that would eat like half the world
grand iron
again we don't need all this forest biome\
fading dove
it'd also eat a shitton of the jungle
grand iron
if you can fit the portal to the colosseum you could make that room like twice as big
anyway i wasn't even asking this originally
who is argus and why are they in the lost colosseum
fading dove
argus is a survivor of the incineration of ilmeris
grand iron
thanks
fading dove
damn the lore item isnt listed on the wiki
do not cause senseless pain in the pursuit of greater causes
grand iron
it's like the guy from hollow knight
nimble wing
also why does they exist
need a great sand shark rework because the old one was terrible
remember that fabsol shot sir nautilus in a dark alley not long ago
you have a giant desert creature boss and nothing to do with it? honor sir nautilus by giving it a rider!
nimble wing
he would easily be my favorite except p2 is atrocious for true melee
grand iron
melee isn't real
frank stream
Hello! I haven't played terraria or tmodloader in ages, and I'm trying to play calamity infernum. Do I just need to install calamity + infernum for that to work, or does infernum include but not rely on calamity?
nimble wing
infernum is a calamity addon and lists calamity as a hard dependency
fading dove
he would easily be my favorite except p2 is atrocious for true melee
operation buggy garden
frank stream
Appreciate it!
grand iron
i wish calamity infernum worked without calamity but all it did was add a big popup that takes up 90% of the screen and says "infernum is not enabled!!!!!"
rare jacinth
faint beacon
I hate the final phase so much
wheat pewter
DAYUM 66 HITS
thin canyon
66 hits
faint beacon
warding maxxing
true melee
I'm eating hits to deal damage
and in final phase I get like
1 or 2 hits every 10 seconds
💀
smoky dock
yeah calclone's last phase is uh
The Cryogen Problem
when I beat her I was quite literally one frame away from dying
noble summit
Gotta pick up this game again i just stopped playing after prov
Bro pissed me off too much
granite bough
i just tried talking to solyn, but i have an unusual combination of modded dashes, plus slight lag, so it looked like i was just tweaking the fuck out LMAO
granite bough
BRO NAMELESS DEITY KEEPS DESPAWNING
yeah i had that issue in the past
wheat pewter
yeah i had that issue in the past
yk how to fix it?
cuz every other boss fight was fine
Beat infernum and everything and now I just wanna finish the game
thin canyon
modlist go go
wheat pewter
granite bough
yk how to fix it?
I wish
thin canyon
try remove bosschecklist
it can be a bit funky
wheat pewter
nope not that
grim falcon
#other-discords you can join wotg discord here to get help and submit a bug report there.
granite bough
oh my fucking god i hate bosses that implement rdr
cheatiest way to invalidate dps builds
a weapon with 48 thousand damage should not be doing 132
smoky dock
which boss
granite bough
its from a different mod
Lux from SOTS
good bossfight otherwise
also, i just placed the fishing catalogue in solyn's bookshelf and it literally only gave me the bait, didn't even play the sound
so close to 30 rollyns
FUCK
smoky dock
why do you need 30
granite bough
max stack buff thing so I don't have to make like 5 worlds and collect 100+ of them
but i basically just lost 6-10 rollyns to that
apple thesis time
okay i broke down every forest tree in the world and didnt fucking get it
axe of regrowth'd
fuck it im gonna make more with clentaminator
wheat pewter
Terraria is done
plucky dune
what ranger weapon is best for inf profaned guardians
maiden fjord
superradiant slaughterer 🙂
elder nebula
true!
maiden fjord
congrats 🙂 👍
dense ocean
Now do it with a Copper Short Sword.
static kestrel
Now go survive for 16 minutes
get that cool pet
or use your permission slip
I don't wanna see that Rod again however
grizzled onyx
is this tierlist gas or trash
dense ocean
I don't even know what the first one in great tier is.
grizzled onyx
its Avatar, but the tier list hasnt updated yet
dense ocean
Avatar of Emptiness' having a bad day, it seems.
grizzled onyx
so it still shows Noxus
static kestrel
Avatar is Noxus' Storm Weaver 
maiden fjord
is this tierlist gas or trash
is there a template for that tierlist?
maiden fjord
oh cool thanks 👍
trim pine
what the bruh]\
fossil saffron
Water worm ❤️
elder nebula
🪱
thick star
please somebody save me how do i get rid of fanny he's going to make me explode
thick star
yeah remix
wheat pewter
time for masochist death mode
grizzled onyx
yeah remix
well good fucking luck he's there to stay
thick star
lord save me
wheat pewter
just beat infernum maso-death is light work
grizzled onyx
lord save me
i dont think there's a way to stop fanny's incessent yapping
thick star
this little shit is going to make me disable remix
fading dove
is this tierlist gas or trash
jagged narwhal
Why my astral monolith not working
calamity entrophy, catalist, calamity HOTOG, roaring knights
warm rock
how the HELL do you dodge the bullet hell phase when providence goes down into the lava in phase 2 (infernum)
buoyant drum
is this tierlist gas or trash
wait what difficulty is this
buoyant drum
is this tierlist gas or trash
if this is infernum its not that bad
i like that polterghast is low
i also like that golem is pretty high, same with ceaseless. guardians could be higher tho
sick pendant
my solyn is glitched outside of the world boundary
rejoining doesn't help, nor does moving her flagpole
lethal folio
why tf is yharon reading my dashes like he has foresight
violet pivot
I cannot open the lost coliseum, even after using the core
frank stream
how tf do i beat king slime in infernum? I don't have a dash and he just jumps on top of me faster than I can run away from him. It's not like I have a dodge. I can use an arena with blocks to kinda circumvent it, but surely there's a better method than forcing him into bonking on dirt to dodge the guy
violet pivot
I placed blocks that he is forced to land on to beat him
Are you melee? You can go to hell and get the old lords claymore and fly around him
frank stream
yeah fair enough, i'm just doing the same thing. I'm trying to do rogue, but stormjaw summon is so good i'm basically just a larping summoner at this point
violet pivot
You could do DS, get better armor, then come back
violet pivot
He drops material you use to craft gear
frank stream
i did him a few times but he dropped a... I mean, i'm using it, but every boss has so much defense that the rapid-damage style for the cactus balls are much better
it's a weapon
frank stream
recipe browser telling me that there's a good upgrade as soon as i find the sunken sea, and i did so much desert stuff that i feel like i'm practically on top of it
violet pivot
Crystalline might be helpful
Nasty Cholla just do so well against the early bosses, I practically abused them for half of prehardmode lmao
frank stream
are you sure that the desert scourge drops anything to make armor? i'm taking a look, and pearl shards don't do it, nor do the seashells/coral
violet pivot
Sea Remains
violet pivot
If you have them, use the goblin shits and nasty cholla for him
frank stream
wait no im lookin at the lategame stuff nvm
lethal folio
i fought baraft vessel and my mursama locked again??
WOW FUCK THAT BOSS IT CLEARED MY BOSS CHECKLIST
frank stream
that is still a SUBSTANTIAL defense increase, thx
lethal folio
ye :I
violet pivot
Holy damn
Speaking of which, can you help me a moment Waze
I used the core at the altar but its not doing anything
It did the star as if activating, but did nothing else
lethal folio
no its that shit altar
violet pivot
Oh shit
lethal folio
honestly didnt have this pproblem id say just restart world
violet pivot
You right
I pause for a moment and it did the white flash
IT DID
You're so goated
I just had to wait a moment longer
lethal folio
I just had to wait a moment longer
that entire fight is weird
lethal folio
🫤
violet pivot
I think it's because it's a different world? Lemt me check mine when I get back to the overworkd
Bereft Vassal isnt on mine either
That bum didnt give me anything of use, so I gotta murder him again
fading dove
That bum didnt give me anything of use, so I gotta murder him again
sealocket is a guaranteed drop
gleaming cairn
must be strong stuff if his breath is still minty fresh after all these years
fading dove
Not useful to me
its the single best defensive accessory for dog
violet pivot
Im running a 1-shot world, defense is useless
gleaming cairn
eeeh. is it? like, i'd still take flesh totem over that
fading dove
eeeh. is it? like, i'd still take flesh totem over that
flesh totem is ~0.66x taken
sealocket is 0.4x
violet pivot
2x for every 90 seconds
gleaming cairn
flesh totem is every 20
fading dove
sealocket's cooldown's an awful lot longer
okay anddddddddd
youre likely not gonna get hit a third time
and even if you do, you can tank it
gleaming cairn
tbh it mostly covered body hits rather than head hits for me
lethal folio
should i reefight DoG for my boss checklist
fading dove
boss checklist lite 👀
violet pivot
Got his trident second try, getting my ass outta there
Brother cost me like 5 lives total between the 2 fights
I did get his plush both times, tho
Does Myrindael's right click give invuln frames for dashing into enemies
fading dove
i feel like it recycles exoblade so idk
frank stream
what is this? might be from infernum or wrath of the gods
violet pivot
Myrindael's right click is like a shield of crhulhu dash, not actually going through enemies
Pretty good ngl
fading dove
its not like soc because its not an accessory and not double tap and not bidirectional
grand iron
argus house
violet pivot
its not like soc because its not an accessory and not double tap and not bidirec...
Its better than soc, it's omnidirectional
fading dove
myrindael is the deep diver to exoblade's elysian aegis
lethal folio
i just beat yharon then died to last attack cus i forgot abt it
might delete character
lethal folio
i used butchers chainsaw for ML
violet pivot
I cant get hit
fading dove
You think Myrindael is better than Terra Blade?
you were using a post plant weapon on ml?
violet pivot
Im using the Amalgamated Brain and Hallowed Armor to ignore hits, but thats 2 free escapes until cooldown
violet pivot
you were using a post plant weapon on ml?
Using another mod, Better Classes. It's OP but doesnt help if I get hit
It gives most of my current set
tardy cedar
You think Myrindael is better than Terra Blade?
imo yeah the mobility is really awesome
maiden fjord
[infernum journey]
UltraSonic is peam 
smoky dock
myrindael is better than terrablade
zenith is better than musket
violet pivot
(BC) Void Heart (Menacing) - Increases damage by 100%. Any damage taken will instantly kill you.
(BC) Martian Core (Menacing) - Increases Damage by 50% but decreases crit chance by 100%
(BC) War Emblem (Menacing) - 30% increased melee damage, 30% decreased melee speed.
(BC) Golden Emblem (Menacing) - Increases damage by 50%. Halves defense and max health.
(Calamity) Amalgamated Brain (Menacing) - you know what it does
(BC) Meat Shield (Menacing) - Spawns a solarflare ring that inflicts enemies inside it Daybroken. All vanilla demon like enemies within the ring take double damage. Allows the player to dash in all directions. Increases life regen, and grants knockback immunity. Enemies are more likely to target you.
(Duck Coin) Melee Coin - Level 5 (Menacing) - 15 defense, 100 max life, 10 life regeneration, 25% melee damage, crit chance, attack speed
My current setup
maiden fjord
what the hell is BC?
maiden fjord
holy
violet pivot
Myrindael (Godly) is at 1673
grand iron
void heart hollow knight reference
fading dove
Terra Blade (Legendary) does 1859 for me with this setup
dude
violet pivot
It doesnt help if I die in 1 hit, thats why I have the Meat Shield, Hallowed Armor, and Amalgamated Brain
tardy cedar
ion think this is worth it
violet pivot
Invuln frames go brrr
maiden fjord
also dash
fading dove
war emblem is just actively detrimental btw
tardy cedar
Is this death ml or inf
violet pivot
Is this death ml or inf
Inf
maiden fjord
sheesh
tardy cedar
Have you fought this boss yeshit before
fading dove
like the only time i can think of that being a worthwhile trade is if you have 0% melee speed and at most -1% melee damage
also martian core
tardy cedar
if not I really don't recommend fighting this boss blind
fading dove
martian core is just actively detrimental because you'd naturally have more than like 20% crit chance
violet pivot
I have Melee Effects as well, allowing my right clicks to be charge bars instead of regular hits, dealing more damage
tardy cedar
heck even if you did once I still don't think that's enough to nohit ml off of that
smoky dock
also +100% damage does not mean double damage
tardy cedar
also +100% damage does not mean double damage
✅
violet pivot
if not I really don't recommend fighting this boss blind
Nah, doing it all blind because it's fun
smoky dock
and instantly dying upon taking damage is like
fading dove
the reason why melee speed is so good is because its another source of mult
smoky dock
please dont do that
tardy cedar
sounds boring icl
smoky dock
i'm a nohitter and I can tell you that, with experience as a nohitter, please use warding fat strats it costs you nothing and you have everything to gain
tardy cedar
I do nohitting too and not being familiar with a boss can be really ass
fading dove
as someone who dabbles in nohits, please just play the game normally
violet pivot
I am not normal
tardy cedar
3 people telling you this 🙏
maiden fjord
yea
tardy cedar
does he know
smoky dock
Nohitting Destroyer with true melee and a fully offensive glass cannon build was over SEVENTEEN TIMES SLOWER than Yeshitting Destroyer with a balance loadout
tardy cedar
pull out the tmelee argus nohit
violet pivot
Nohitting Destroyer with true melee and a fully offensive glass cannon build was...
It was fun, tho
tardy cedar
Idk then if you're having fun then so be it
smoky dock
when i posted this video a really nice social worker came to my house and gave me a grippy sock vacation
tardy cedar
we can't really recommend much tho if you're in trouble
violet pivot
Hell yeah, lizahrd
tardy cedar
you can check out other nohits
fading dove
i wonder if there's a better time on inf dog than toxic heart facetanking
tardy cedar
ml when
violet pivot
Is there better armor than Hallowed that has better maneuverability or invuln
smoky dock
and then I started getting intrusive thoughts like "You should use Regenator on Deus"
violet pivot
sadge
smoky dock
you are stuck with hallowed armor until post-DoG
violet pivot
Understood, is there any better for melee damage in this case
tardy cedar
what's your choke point on moon lord
violet pivot
Better than Molten*
smoky dock
then you're either going to be stuck with Silva or still stuck with hallowed based on whether or not that silly little object bypasses on-hit logic or not
tardy cedar
are you using alcohol buffs
violet pivot
what's your choke point on moon lord
His phase when his core is exposed
smoky dock
Understood, is there any better for melee damage in this case
mollusk
tardy cedar
are you using odd mushrooms...
smoky dock
or frost
fading dove
Understood, is there any better for melee damage in this case
unequipping martian core and war emblem
smoky dock
you should use frost armor and true melee
lethal folio
is there a point of running full warding with omega blue or should i just go full damage
tardy cedar
His phase when his core is exposed
which attack specifically
violet pivot
Crits might be better, you right
fading dove
is there a point of running full warding with omega blue or should i just go ful...
warding lets you tank head
tardy cedar
unless you're having trouble with all of them
smoky dock
is there a point of running full warding with omega blue or should i just go ful...
both have merit
violet pivot
which attack specifically
Bullet hell
smoky dock
but warding is like, better
tardy cedar
Bullet hell
the spiral?
violet pivot
No, all eyeballs attacking at once
lethal folio
but warding is like, better
i still get 2 tapped
tardy cedar
Edge
smoky dock
i still get 2 tapped
Correct! Use Warding anyways!
violet pivot
like aBrain
I do have abrain
lethal folio
maybe its cus im fighting yharon
tardy cedar
for scissors just dtap/atap a bit
fading dove
ah yharon
smoky dock
I do have abrain
I say this, unironically, and with all my experience, use Warding
violet pivot
(BC) Void Heart (Menacing) - Increases damage by 100%. Any damage taken will ins...
My current accessories
violet pivot
Warding wont do shit if a single point of damage autokills me
tardy cedar
that's why you remove it ✌️
fading dove
does it invoke the kill function or does it make everything deal 2^31-1 damage
violet pivot
that's why you remove it ✌️
The point of this run is to win with it on
violet pivot
does it invoke the kill function or does it make everything deal 2^31-1 damage
Invoke kill func
fading dove
because unless its the latter, warding will help you
tardy cedar
just go watch a nohit then
lethal folio
should i change anything fighting yharon
smoky dock
The higher your Defense then the less damage you take... but aBrain's dodge cooldown is based on the ummm
The damage you WOULD have taken
SO with Warding, then ummm
The cooldown is lesser
Thus, more dodges, more room for error.
fading dove
should i change anything fighting yharon
ampoule and omega blue together is funny
smoky dock
Menacing is doing pretty close to absolutely nothing for you
violet pivot
The only damage im allowed to take is dot like On Fire! and such
grand iron
should i change anything fighting yharon
don't use whatever that shiny rainbow things is
smoky dock
And Lucky does not do, like, anything considering the funny haha Martian Core
violet pivot
I dont use Lucky anyways
smoky dock
should i change anything fighting yharon
Omega Blue on Yharon really, really likes Bloodflare Core
smoky dock
I dont use Lucky anyways
If you need me to explain why Menacing isn't helping you, I'm happy to
But TL;DR
Use Warding
fading dove
you have +265% melee damage just from accessories
grand iron
ampoule and omega blue together is funny
it's so that they don't have to use a light pet obviously
violet pivot
My damage is 127% x5.85
smoky dock
I am curious why it wouldnt help
Damage% is additive with itself. Each point of damage% doesn't care about what your current damage is, it only applies based off the base damage of the weapon.
You can think of it as dealing (baseDamage * (damage% + 100)/100)
fading dove
what do you mean 5.85x
lethal folio
ampoule and omega blue together is funny
oh ye i forgot u dont regen
gleaming cairn
if you want more damage, use the spite candle tbh
violet pivot
I mean it says 127% X5.85. I assume it means its multiplying my 127% by that number
violet pivot
if you want more damage, use the spite candle tbh
Already am
smoky dock
Soooooo Menacing being 24% means that you're adding 24% onto that damage% value... If that damage% value is very high, then the difference between before and after Menacing is low
violet pivot
Spite is goated
fading dove
no i mean where's the mult coming from
lethal folio
Omega Blue on Yharon really, really likes Bloodflare Core
should i swap out community
smoky dock
yes
fading dove
the only things in inf that give mult damage are dsa and purity
violet pivot
no i mean where's the mult coming from
I dont know, might be the Better Classes thing, let me check
fading dove
and nothing you have gives mult
violet pivot
It is
fading dove
they just give damage%
violet pivot
I took off Void Heart and multiplier went down
smoky dock
yeah then that's a misleading description
violet pivot
Seems that way
smoky dock
it adds 2.0x onto your damage mult
violet pivot
Seems so
smoky dock
but um, yeah then it's a bit more worth it
but you should still try to balance the other sources of damage
smoky dock
With a given sum of damage%, crit%, and meleeSpeed%, evenly balancing them is superior to uhhhh
Investing entirely in one...
make sense?
violet pivot
I'll grab a crit dmg item to see how thatll fair
fading dove
its like investing in just chips vs chips, +mult, and xmult
violet pivot
Wait
smoky dock
Yeah, exactly
violet pivot
Taking off my martian lost me mult
fading dove
but it gave you crit chance
violet pivot
Terra Blade went down to 1217
smoky dock
Then it's also a misleading and lying accessory
fading dove
crit chance is a source of damage mult
smoky dock
Do the math to see if it was worth using (I hypothesize it's not)
The only possible chance it would be worth using is if you had 1x damage before
violet pivot
Let me write these down
smoky dock
but since you have Void Core or whatever it's called... you didn't...
lethal folio
what does defense damage mean?
violet pivot
Gonna use the Terra Blade as the control
smoky dock
So umm... you have damage%, crit%, meleeSpeed%, and mult%
smoky dock
So umm... you have damage%, crit%, meleeSpeed%, and mult%
Try to evenly balance all those numbers without significantly changing the sum