calamity-addon-talk

[smoky dock]

This run's stipulation is that instant death is on at all times and true melee only

[woven rune]

💀

[smoky dock]

my definition of true melee is a bit liberal, hence why turrets and toxic heart and scheisse

but it pretty explicitly bans summons
turrets should help though, if they fucking act the way I want them to

3075 blorbs that night

[gaunt tangle]

daedalus or hallowed armor for summoner?

[smoky dock]

personal preference

hallowed is a decent bit weaker but enjoys the dodge effect, so it's reasonable to choose

[night fractal]

hallowed is overall better

Especially if the enemy isn't cold weak

[drifting ridge]

how is my pre boss summoner

[little steppe]

I will assume plant and calclone are resistent to cold

[drifting ridge]

im gonna get platinum armor for my other 2 slots

maybe replace the aglet for something

wait

[night fractal]

I think they might be actually

Bur

If you use Cryogenic Staff sentry it's moot

[drifting ridge]

i can technically get obsidian rn right?

[night fractal]

Since that also does Frostbite

[night fractal]

No

[little steppe]

is frostbite a fire debuff or something

[drifting ridge]

why

calamity changed recipe?

[night fractal]

I'd highly recommend replacing aglet with sandstorm bottle/balloon maybe upgrade to lightning boots

[little steppe]

it always had evil1 drop

[night fractal]

It's cold

[little steppe]

even vanilla iirc

[drifting ridge]

its the upgraded version of frostburn

10 per sec iirc

[night fractal]

Frostbite and Frostburn are both Cold debuffs

[little steppe]

well if it has burn in the name

[night fractal]

A good idea

[drifting ridge]

or do i get wulfrum helmet?

10% damage

[night fractal]

I'd say Tungsten or Platinum helmet

Tungsten is 7% but much more defense than wulfrum

[drifting ridge]

oh

[night fractal]

Ancient Shadow or Molten armors are also good choices

[drifting ridge]

time to extractinate the entire desert for some tungsten armor

[night fractal]

nah

Just do gold or platinum at that point

it's a minor difference

[drifting ridge]

yeah

basically the same alr

does calamity make ancient shadow easier to get

wait

can i solidify a banner for it

[wide junco]

you need multiple iirc

[little steppe]

thats a fargo feature

I think ancient shadow is just 1 banner per piece?

might be wrong

[drifting ridge]

also you cant convert crimera banners into eater sadly

or can you?

idk

[little steppe]

cant

[drifting ridge]

also which minion is rec pre boss

[night fractal]

Depends on enemy but

Stormjaw for desert scourge

Belladonna for anything else

Rusty Beacon Prototype for sentry (this is very strong)

[smoky dock]

rusty beacon prototype is so crazy rn

love it

[heavy moat]

Crazy glowup from its initial release state

"Useless" didn't even begin to adequately describe it

[smoky dock]

What did it do on release? Now I wanna find footage

[heavy moat]

I dun have any footage onhand unfortunately

[smoky dock]

Does the explosion remove the minion?

[heavy moat]

Yes iirc

[smoky dock]

Caustic Croaker style?

LOL

[heavy moat]

Meaning that it was extremely clunky to actually benefit from and didn't at all make up for that in the form of damage output

[smoky dock]

oh poor creature

The forced aggro seems like it'd do nothing in singleplayer

Can't come up with any use cases off the top of my head, assuming it works how I'd expect

Regardless, thank you for showing me

[mystic lion]

yo chat are empress wings good fo inf ml

[little steppe]

if you dont mind its ass flight time

[mystic lion]

whut about fishron wings

[little steppe]

those are pretty good

[smoky dock]

es

Yes

Fishron, Empress and Betsy are more or less standard. Most of the time I see one of those, and they're what I personally use

[mystic lion]

okily dokily

[round panther]

lowk infernum not as hard as anyone was expecting

if you try it for yourself its not that bad

[little steppe]

infernum starts being hard after moonlord

[round panther]

i also start being hard after ml

[little steppe]

[round panther]

have you seen providence

her geometry is so perfect

[pine igloo]

I just closed the game cuz i fkin hate Scal

[round panther]

holy shit is that yharim

[pine igloo]

Maybe

[little steppe]

lore accurate yharim?

[pine igloo]

Anyways ill finish pulling off my hair one by one tomorrow

[round panther]

false, lord accurate yharim loves calamitas' "service"

[mystic lion]

YAYAYA IT WORKED!!!1111

[little steppe]

what

[smoky dock]

Lets not make comments like that here

[pine igloo]

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[round panther]

im sorry

[smoky dock]

No worries

[mystic lion]

tankyu guyz i beat ml!!!! 😊

[round panther]

its too late so my brain not working properly

i go to sleep now
gn pookies

[little steppe]

GG

[smoky dock]

night

[fading dove]

chen

[mystic lion]

should i use moonstone crown or electricians glove fo rogue

[fading dove]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-calamity-mod-moonstone-crown-angry-birds-dice-gif-3271103520363468844

[mystic lion]

so electricians glove?

[fading dove]

moonstone crown can be significantly more powerful iirc

[mystic lion]

alrighty then

[tardy cedar]

Isn't it that feather crown upgrade

[fading dove]

pretty sure yeah

[mystic lion]

ye it is

[tardy cedar]

I wonder if it's good with lunar kunai

[mystic lion]

ill test it

[tardy cedar]

Kinda keen bout it

[mystic lion]

erm what profaned guardian am i suppose to target first

the defender or the healer

[sinful temple]

healer then defender then commander

[mystic lion]

oki

[random moon]

Awww I love sanae based

[raven vapor]

imagine if AOTC was tmelee because you are throwing the sword

[sinful temple]

not how it works unfortunately 💔

[raven vapor]

yea it sounded cleverer in my head

[mystic lion]

why torch god not spawn

d

[snow sun]

U in cavern layer?

[mystic lion]

does it have to be in cavern??

cuz boss checklist says it can b in underground

ill try in cavern

[snow sun]

Idk

Also needs closed space

[mystic lion]

what the FRICK

[sinful temple]

hates you unfortunately

[grave marsh]

providence npc when

what do i fight in between dog and yharon

besides the buffed events

[fiery mango]

NOTHING

[raven vapor]

instal entropy and fight the other dog boss

[grave marsh]

whowhatwherewhenwhyhow

[grave marsh]

so basically it's just immediately yharon

great

[fast magnet]

Stardust cell or terraprisma for astrageldon

[fast magnet]

yup

[grave marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/y3ongi-watermelon-gif-21033179

https://tenor.com/view/yharon-calamity-calamity-mod-boss-meme-gif-15253627038235012989

[grave marsh]

wish i experienced the goat

bumble birb

[lethal hinge]

Oh boy I can't wait to reach the endgame to fight draedon's creations: the fabricational quartet

And the final boss, fucking yharim worm

[mystic lion]

is this shtuff good for inf profaned guardians

also are lunar kunais good weapons

[past pagoda]

no

[past pagoda]

fairy boots-absorber
shield thingy-asgards valor or statis void sash

and mabye moonstone crown-ambrosial ampoule

also elemental disk spam is really good

[mystic lion]

so should i use spam stuff instead?

[mystic lion]

dude why the fuck ist he profaned commander throwing invisible projectiles

[quasi lark]

What addon does this and why?

[slim sphinx]

infernum

you can find all 3 rune of kos bosses in the world before fighting them

[rose spindle]

Supernova gotta be the best weapon for scal

It just skips the soul seekers phase

[rose spindle]

This is after beating wof right or pml

[slim sphinx]

cv is always in the dungeon, idk about the other 2

probably after wof

idr if you can find them before

[mystic lion]

how tf do i dodge providences holy explosions

she legit just covered the entire arena with them

nvm

[barren zephyr]

thoughts like this is what goes on in my head 90% of the time when fighting new bosses

[mystic lion]

those infernum playthrough videos make the bosses look so ez 😭 💔

[barren zephyr]

half of infernum is figuring out the how

and only then do you actually do it

[mystic lion]

why does providences crystal phase have to be so strong bro

[steel ledge]

infernum bosses have this stupid mechanic where you have to figure out a boss pattern then it becomes piss easy

no random pattern, no stupid bullshit, like the second you pick up on how to dodge one move you can literally dodge it 90% of the time

which is what makes most bosses either too easy or too hard depending on how fast you pick it u p

[barren zephyr]

polter would've been easy if he didn't abuse projectiles to periodically lag my game ☝️

[steel ledge]

thats

amazing

because every boss just has its stupidity

[barren zephyr]

except aquatic scourge

aquatic scourge is perfect ❤️

[steel ledge]

its fun

altho its stupid bubbles make no sense

sometimes i just get hit out of the blue

[barren zephyr]

the damaging fog should be made more clear

otherwise the boss is flawless

the phase 2 to 3 transition was cinema

[steel ledge]

cc is sick too

i feel like most balanced fights are just mid-late hardmode

CC, AS, EOL

even golem was fun

[barren zephyr]

leviathan is still the exception

[steel ledge]

never ejoyed this fight

it felt easy even tho i did it pretty late hardmode

i feel like by far one of the games that really made enjoy boss designs is elden ring

[barren zephyr]

dokuro composing the most complete musical number for the shittiest boss in the mod

[steel ledge]

besides a select few

which make no sense

fucking miyazaki

[barren zephyr]

visual or gameplay design

[steel ledge]

both

they're all visually nice

besides first 3 you'd fight for the most part

(margit, godrick and rennala)

[barren zephyr]

havent been able to play elden ring because of racism unfortunately 😔

might resort to less legal measures

[steel ledge]

racism??

[barren zephyr]

you ever wanted to play a game

but get denied buying it

[steel ledge]

why the fuck

[barren zephyr]

and when you ask why all you get is "your government is bad"

neither have i until 2022

but it looks like russophobia is slowly becoming less hip

people are reporting that youtube now works without vpn for some

[steel ledge]

well

its gonna take sometime then

[barren zephyr]

hopefully not too much of it

[mystic lion]

these hitboxes are wack 🥀

its either i can just run through an attack and feel nothing

or i get hit by a projectile 50 feet away from me

[barren zephyr]

are you still on providence

[mystic lion]

yes im practising her 1st phase

[barren zephyr]

first phase second hardest phase in the fight tbh

[mystic lion]

rn her crystal phase is whats beating my ass

[barren zephyr]

is it the death ray spam

[mystic lion]

yes

[barren zephyr]

use the trident that vassal dropped

it lets you kinda dash vertically

basically the only reliable way to deal with that attack

[steel ledge]

which attack we talking about?

[barren zephyr]

the one with death rays

[steel ledge]

right, phase 2

[barren zephyr]

that gives you 0.3s of time to dodge

[steel ledge]

fuck that shit

[mystic lion]

also all her other projectiles either just phase right through me or hit me from like across the arena

[barren zephyr]

which projectiles

i dont remember it like this

[mystic lion]

the fireballs mainly

[barren zephyr]

oh yeah the fireballs

use rod for that shit

tp as far away as possible when she does that

[mystic lion]

should i use normality relocator or rod

also do the lasers predict where youre going??

or am i just that unlucky

that they always end up exactly on me

[barren zephyr]

they're random

which makes them harder to dodge tbh

[cedar laurel]

Rod for precise tp
Relocator if you don’t care about precision and just want to get out of the death trap or something

[mystic lion]

also when she does her massive grid attack with all the explosions its literally just impossible to dodge on the right side

[barren zephyr]

use broom or ufo key

and stay right on the boss

where the explosions wont reach you

[cedar laurel]

I remember that going all the way to arena wall actually let you survive because the bombs doesn’t reach there

[mystic lion]

you can do it on the left side

the right side just gets absolutely bombarded

fucking lasers man

FUCKING LASERS MAN

[stiff coral]

What's a good ranged weapon for Exo mechs Infernum

[cedar laurel]

Chicken cannon

[stiff coral]

Alright

And what combination to get the ranged weapon drop?

[night fractal]

Jailer drops from Ares last, and Surge Driver drops from Twins last

so as long as Thanatos isn't the final mech you'll get a ranged weapon

(alth idk how good either of them are)

[raven vapor]

jailer is better

also time to start yet another melee run to test how the entropy weapons look like 🥰 🥰

also there is this bug when you finish boss rush and you start a new player charecter it completes a random boss related dev/death wish

i got blahaj on a new charecter

[night fractal]

do you have boss checklist?

[raven vapor]

it's boss checklist innit

always boss checklist and it's problems

first there is the wiping of progress , now this

also , speaking of

????

[night fractal]

Try it with Boss Checklist Lite

[barren zephyr]

good job on defeating goozma pre boss 🔥 ✊

[night fractal]

It should not cause the bugs

Switching won't fix any already caused bugs

but it'd keep more from happening

[raven vapor]

apparently it's been a thing for over a year now

[smoky dock]

Boss checklist was developed by a chaotic trickster fae and finds it entertaining to watch unsuspecting users engage with this cursed program

[fiery mango]

That’s funny but couldn’t be less true

jopojelly just somehow fucked up real bad one day

[next nimbus]

INFERNUM 🌲🌲🌲 SKELETRON PRIME 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👑👑 1 TRY NO HIT ALL BOSSES🤣🤣🤣🤣

[waxen tide]

what is bro yappin about

[silver wadi]

ok chat after a long 10 hour rest from crashing out at masodeath yesterday, I'm ready to try wall again

and not die on the last 100 health

[cedar laurel]

Eternity rev experience

[cedar laurel]

gl

[silver wadi]

in other words I'm just gonna go farm a blood moon so I can get lifeforce potions because I've been doing the fight without this whole time

[silver wadi]

gimme the link

gotta make my own, tbh I will not be ranking the minibosses because I deadass don't remember like half of them

cryogen is 100% true

[cedar laurel]

I’ll try

Also eternity prime icon break for some reason as you can see

[silver wadi]

ngl only thing I disagree with is the existence of an AA tier lmao

well, that and cultist not being in S

cultist was so peak

[cedar laurel]

Yeah i kinda stuck with that for really long time idk why I didn’t just do ss+ or something

[smoky dock]

just remove AA tier, make it A tier

and then bring everything else down a level

[silver wadi]

what I'm getting at, too many tiers

[smoky dock]

Then you have a classic F thru A ranking plus a bonus S rank

[silver wadi]

just shift them around if too many are in a single tier

[smoky dock]

also, i installed a new mod

i finally have a money sink again since Cirrus was raptured

[silver wadi]

hear me out, enchant mechanic but weaker versions and the wizard can give you them

maybe make it so the wizard gives you enchants post-calclone

[cedar laurel]

How do you do the blue square select thing

[silver wadi]

that way they're actually a mechanic for longer

[smoky dock]

it probably won't ever be in the base game

[silver wadi]

forgot how goofy the mage statigel looks

[cedar laurel]

fargo wizard enchantment Norway

[silver wadi]

been using aquatic heart as a vanity slot

wizard is my goat and I wanna see him do stuff for non-mages

[smoky dock]

A similar argument could be made with other items in that area. Draedon's Forge is a combined crafting station, surely it should be placed earlier too, no?

[smoky dock]

he sells candles now, I guess. And can be used to glean your luck

[silver wadi]

not really, draedon's forge is an unlock and nothing else, it doesn't add any meaningful depth to how you interact with your equipment

it's just a way to get more stuff

and QoL for crafting stations

enchants meanwhile are at least supposed to meaningfully affect your weapons

in reality you just kinda use aflame on 90% of stuff, and a small handful of others for specific builds

tainted for tmelee, oblatory for mage (when applicable) etc.

[raven vapor]

aflame bad because it sets you on fire

[silver wadi]

"aflame bad" mfs when they discover any amount of regen:

me when I get the strongest DoT effect on every weapon for the cost of like -3 regen while holding it

[smoky dock]

aflame also disables natural regen

[silver wadi]

meh

slap it on eye of magnus if you care, problem solved

[smoky dock]

yep

[silver wadi]

natty regen isn't even the majority of your regen

in endgame most of your regen is gonna be from accessories and buffs

[smoky dock]

at that stage of the game, it absolutely very much is

[silver wadi]

if you got it earlier (((WIZARD))) it would be a bit more of a tradeoff

[smoky dock]

Auric Tesla armor is so bulky because of its superior natural regen courtesy of Bloodflare

[silver wadi]

bloodflare 💗

[smoky dock]

Fearmonger is the same case, just more so

[silver wadi]

bloodflare & intergelactic my goats

[smoky dock]

ew

[silver wadi]

interg*lactic?

[smoky dock]

yeah

[silver wadi]

if it's any consolation I don't use it until post provi

[raven vapor]

why whats wrong

[silver wadi]

honestly, lets say I could use miracle matter to combine 3 armor sets

[raven vapor]

ik the rogue set sucks but what else

[limber sage]

the melee weapon sucked when I last used it

[silver wadi]

I'd probably go omega blue, brimflame, and the last one would be a pretty big toss up

oh yeah metanova melee weap sucks ass

the armor isn't crazy for melee either, it's just raw stats

[smoky dock]

the melee set is mediocre

more or less identical to Solar

I really should test the other sets

[silver wadi]

arguably worse, if you're not getting hit

[smoky dock]

No, it's just identical

[limber sage]

mage and ranger have it the best iirc

for metanova

[silver wadi]

intergelactic mage is so fun

that's why I said it's my goat

[smoky dock]

i'm 90% sure summoner has the best because like

[raven vapor]

summoner gets shafted too

[smoky dock]

holy shit

[silver wadi]

free projectile spam for critting

[waxen tide]

intergelactic greavers tho🤤
200% jump speed

[smoky dock]

i'll gotta tinker with the uhhh

[raven vapor]

imo the only purpose of intergelatic is the extra 18 defence from the auric + set

[silver wadi]

^

that's the main purpose

[limber sage]

yup

[smoky dock]

the different minions summoner has

[limber sage]

metanova summon is...awkward

[smoky dock]

because intergelactic summoner is really, really wishy-washy

[silver wadi]

that's the main reason I even use intergelactic post-provi, because omega blue and prismatic are just so much better for anything that isn't survival

wait hold up

lemme cook

brimflame omega blue prismatic

[smoky dock]

what about it

[silver wadi]

press set bonus to nuke your health and shoot brimflame lasers and tentacles

[smoky dock]

ah

[silver wadi]

nothing I was just making a funny idea because "what if I could make any combination of 3 armor sets"

[raven vapor]

anyways im playing rogue now so intergeltic aint worth it

[silver wadi]

iirc the intergelactic rogue weapon is really good

[smoky dock]

absolutely not no

[raven vapor]

i wanted to play melee to toy around with the cal entropy weapons

[silver wadi]

anecdotal though

[smoky dock]

intergelactic rogue is impressively bad

[silver wadi]

I didn't play my friend told me from their playthrough

[raven vapor]

but i already played melee and melee sucks for dog soo

[silver wadi]

the death's ascension in question

[raven vapor]

too late , my charecter is called "infernum rogue now"

[smoky dock]

melee is like

the opposite of bad against DoG

[humble marlin]

-> <- you rn

[smoky dock]

whatever that is

[silver wadi]

me when they have to give every worm boss a tmelee resistance because otherwise the fight would end in 10 seconds

[raven vapor]

or should i rename it back

[smoky dock]

DoG doesn't have a true melee resistance

[raven vapor]

to infernum melee

[smoky dock]

for some reason

[silver wadi]

nah he just has an everything in general resistance

[cedar laurel]

r u free for dm

[silver wadi]

yeah

I think

[humble marlin]

+80% tmelee resistance for no fucking reason 🔥🔥🔥🔥i love geldon🔥🔥🔥🔥

[silver wadi]

geldon has tmelee resist?

why the fuck

[smoky dock]

Is it 80% resistance? I thought it was only 20% resistance

[cedar laurel]

Can someone send goozma resistance list

I remember it being funny

[silver wadi]

literally not even in tmelee range for 95% of geldon's fight

man idk what goozma resists, but it sure as hell isn't vehemence

[silver wadi]

I was floored by how fast I nuked its ass

ah, yeah it takes 80% dmg

[smoky dock]

Yeah, 20% tmelee resist

[silver wadi]

so 20 resist

[cedar laurel]

Hell nah goozma take 1% damage from seraphim

[smoky dock]

lmao

[cedar laurel]

What do you mean you take 2.2% Damage from karma staff

[silver wadi]

85% dmg from vehemence

[humble marlin]

what boss had like s comically high res to dynamic pursuer

[silver wadi]

so I still nuked his ass with a 15% resist to that weapon lmao

[smoky dock]

i'm not aware of one

[cedar laurel]

Goozma have it apparently

[silver wadi]

35% resist

bruh

[raven vapor]

thanatos has 60% resist to the boomerang itself

[humble marlin]

crazy

well its a worm so

OH WAIT

i think it was mutant

[cedar laurel]

Why does it have 50% dr to excelsus what are you scared of dawg

[raven vapor]

also which weapon has the weirdest "best reforge"

[silver wadi]

I mean idk about currently

but whips used to like sluggish

because for some reason negative attack speed made them bigger

[smoky dock]

many sentries prefer mythical for the accelerated casting speed

summons with particularly low damage enjoy mythical solely because ruthless does not provide any damage bonus due to rounding

I used Sluggish on a Handheld Tank because a Sluggish Handheld Tank is the weapon to hold for the slowest possible use time, which actually makes stealth stronger

so... I think Sluggish Handheld Tank. Post-DoG there are plenty of even slower weapons than Handheld Tank though

[raven vapor]

apparently not

wiki says it is the slowest

[smoky dock]

Rubico Prime and Ice Barrage tie for slowest weapon at 300 ticks

[mossy trench]

twins last phase retinaser is so lowk harder than spazmatism

[smoky dock]

yeah it is

[mossy trench]

whats the best weapon for destroyer

for range

[silver wadi]

ok here's my eternity death tierlist

[cedar laurel]

I believe in needler supremacy

[silver wadi]

basically B is good but unremarkable

everything else makes sense from there

sigil of cal is skeletron prime because he was missing

brimstone I didn't fight until way after progression, scourge I just outright didn't fight at all

[timid berry]

should I try no-hiting astrageldon?

[silver wadi]

yeah why not

related, I found a weapon to surpass exo gear

[limber sage]

if you succeed there's a special reward geldon drops

[timid berry]

I still didnt got Interstellar Corruption Dye

And I just like astrageldon fight

[timid berry]

Ik

Makes a progression skip boss even more progression skipier

[spark narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1292431197531541525/723794037907128371.gif

[smoky dock]

i think the buggy strat is genuinely going to work

needs lots of buggy though

[grizzled onyx]

astrageldon doesnt need all these damage resistances

[smoky dock]

no it does not

[grizzled onyx]

why do they exist???!!/

[smoky dock]

funny

[limber sage]

"Why not?"

[grizzled onyx]

it has REACTIVE DR ALREADY

[smoky dock]

finally, we can stop the reign of terror of the legion of shart of antumbra users

[grizzled onyx]

15% from it

[smoky dock]

all six of them

[grizzled onyx]

how is anyone using it against a single target boss

genuinely

[smoky dock]

also it has a global stealth strike resistance

[grizzled onyx]

it is a mid weapon at best

mmmm yes

[smoky dock]

i used shart of antumbra stealth against geldon and it was a uh

an experience

[grizzled onyx]

it has resistance against every single one of leanod proginors attacks

to counter the 2 people who actually use the damn weapon

[grizzled onyx]

how did it go

[grizzled onyx]

surprising

also, pray tell:
who on gods green earth uses leonid proginitor

[smoky dock]

that's what I thought too

[grizzled onyx]

that thing is really bad and is outclassed by literally all the other Astral Infection rogue weapons obtained at the same time

[silver wadi]

fargos blorbing

[smoky dock]

yo holy shit the sussy lure????

[silver wadi]

when the lure is sus

[raven vapor]

amogsus

[grizzled onyx]

leonid proginetor is literally just worse than stellar knife, heavenfallen stardisk, and the other rogue drop from Aureus

[silver wadi]

oh boy time for wall of flesh attempt number I lost count

now I have lifeforce and heartreach though

[cedar laurel]

Cursed coffin and banished baron at low tier is so real
They got lot easier after first pt tho

[dark lake]

homophobic boss

this boss in infernum made me feel like im insane and is losing my sanity

i look at my arena before i start and im like "yeah this is pretty big i got this"

she gets to 80% and now 90% of my arena is unusable

i die and while preparing for the next attempt im like

"why did i feel like i have no space this place is pretty damn big"

i start the boss and now 90% of my arena is unusable

repeat this 25 times until i killed her

[silver wadi]

14 attempts

pain

the 5 minute RTA makes it so much worse

basically means I spent like an hour and 10 minutes total

[nimble wing]

Fabsol bosses don’t allow approach -> True melee hyperinflated to remain usable -> Anything that can actually be hit with true melee explodes -> Have to arbitrarily make true melee worse again

That was Fabsolian!

[silver wadi]

yeah so I'm happy to report my game crashed after I beat wall

not right after

[sacred ivy]

At the same time I really want to fight the WOTG bosses - The mod hates me, causes lag even before Post-ML, and it can't go a week without screwing things up on startup

I was told to just disable it but idk if the getting to the cool bosses will be missing out good stuff

[silver wadi]

but after the astral meteor spawned and before it said "the spirits of light and dark blah"

so lets see if this world is still in prehardmode or not

if it is, I'm hopping on my eternity char and melting the wall

if it's not, I may have even more problems

out of curiosity, is there a mod or config option to force the astral meteor to spawn between the dungeon and sulphur sea like in older versions?

[smoky dock]

😔

[silver wadi]

yeah, it just didn't save my wall kill

char doesn't have the items, world isn't in hardmode

yk what that means

[mossy trench]

can i turn it into usual aeralite?

i mined it then killed hive mind

[silver wadi]

well, that's new

second time in a row now

didn't happen on my last world with the exact same mod list

[night fractal]

Ok but worms is also a case of

haha infinite pierce

[severe pebble]

Guys I've been out of the modded terraria scene for like 5 years and wanted to comeback and try everything. I wanted to try wrath of the gods specially. Can anyone recommend me a content filled modpack with wrath o the gods aswell? or maybe a community more around modpacks?

[smoky dock]

No

[night fractal]

Modpacks tend to not work well

[smoky dock]

I don't see many modpacks around. I don't think enough Terraria mods exist to make one terribly robust. Oftentimes people just compile their own mod lists

[night fractal]

This isn't like Minecraft where mods tend to work ok together

[smoky dock]

I think it's best just to use Wrath of the Gods, its dependencies, and little else

[night fractal]

Multiple content mods tends to completely break balance at best

[severe pebble]

Seriously? I've never played anything but modpacks

[severe pebble]

ah yes thats true

[night fractal]

at worst...

[smoky dock]

even then, the modpack creators need to explicitly develop patches for the mods they wanna compile

[night fractal]

well, corrupted worlds

[night fractal]

not always, but it's a good idea

[severe pebble]

how about this one for example?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=755wpvAE5PY

[night fractal]

In Minecraft I can throw together my own stuff

[night fractal]

I have never heard of this

[smoky dock]

Ah, I looked at it

[night fractal]

I have heard of like 3 or 4 modpacks that never got off the ground

[smoky dock]

It’s just a list of mods slapped together. No research, rhyme or reason involved

[night fractal]

Bc making mods work together in terraria is such a monumental task

[smoky dock]

^

[severe pebble]

but like

if the only problem is the balancing

I can handle it

[silver wadi]

there once was a man named stanley

[smoky dock]

Yeah this pack is bogus

[silver wadi]

FUCK

I didn't get the screenshot of the loading screen tip

[smoky dock]

Balancing is only one of the issues

[silver wadi]

it was just the end is never the end...

[smoky dock]

Usually the issues revolve around bugs and incompatibility

Boss Checklist is already surprisingly buggy to begin with, how’s anyone to be sure it won’t act strangely with anything else?

Infernum doesn’t really play nice whenever it isn’t used first and foremost in a run. Going outside of what its devs intended tends to cause issues. Like master mode, for example

Not all of these mods are necessary (E.x. No More Tombs is redundant, as Quality of Terraria does the same thing. All it does is add more code which can possibly cause more issues)

Debugging will be a nightmare

[severe pebble]

okok

i get it

then

what should I play wrath of the gods with

cause ive noticed calamity has a bunch of different shit i dont even know what they are

like infernum

do they work together?

[smoky dock]

It’s best you just use as few mods as you can

Wrath of the Gods has its own dependencies you MUST use, like Calamity

[cedar laurel]

Yea
Kinda

[silver wadi]

lmao

devil killed the wall out of bounds

[smoky dock]

Infernum is an addon completely unrelated to Wrath of the Gods or Calamity’s development, but Infernum should work with it since WotG explicitly designed in compatibility

[timid berry]

I did a hit-less astrageldon, twice

[smoky dock]

Infernum can get pretty difficult, though

[severe pebble]

ok is there more stuff like infernum and WotG?

[limber sage]

it's still fair regardless of the difficulty

[smoky dock]

Yeah, there are more addons

[severe pebble]

how many can I fit into a playtrough :)

[smoky dock]

But the more mods and addons you include, the greater the odds of something breaking or acting unusually, so be careful

[smoky dock]

depends on what you choose to use

[severe pebble]

what are your favourites?

i dont know any of them

[cedar laurel]

Don’t calamity overhaul
btw

[smoky dock]

I personally use just Infernum

I have some other mods, but none are major content mods

[silver wadi]

if you wanna have an abundance of stuff to learn, try fargos and calamity together, with some addons like goozma, astrageldon, and WoTG

[cedar laurel]

(Do not fargo with infernum)

[limber sage]

recipe browser, calamity, catalyst, wotg, hunt of the old god

[severe pebble]

sounds fun

[smoky dock]

I also use… MechScope, uhhhh… um. Recipe Browser… uhhh Quality of Terraria…

[limber sage]

infernum OR fargo souls

you cannot use both

[severe pebble]

okkkk

okok

[smoky dock]

fargo’s souls sounds like it’ll curbstomp geldon, goozer and wotg

[cedar laurel]

I heard graze bomb just straight up delete Providence lavas from the fight

[silver wadi]

it has built in compatibility with WoTG

[smoky dock]

oh rad

[silver wadi]

the other two though, it depends on how well you build

tbh, fargo's gear doesn't start getting super overpowered until post-ML

so astrageldon should be reasonably okay

[cedar laurel]

Geldon when Pumpking cape and precision seal

[silver wadi]

sure, but you're not gonna be curbstomping him

honestly precision seal is overkill for geldon

[smoky dock]

maybe it can get 3:29

[cedar laurel]

necro enchantment…

[swift moss]

What class should I play for my first infernum playthrough

[severe pebble]

im not done watching but this one seems like it has a lot of thought put into it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BapSPfUrBuc

[smoky dock]

Looks good at first glance, but it looks unfinished

[severe pebble]

i dont even know if it is out

[smoky dock]

It is not

[silver wadi]

it's not complete, iirc

[cedar laurel]

How are they gonna balance this one

[severe pebble]

DAMN

ight

imma play the fargo's WotG

[cedar laurel]

I believe in infernum mage

[silver wadi]

you'll need Fargo's DLC

along with fargo's souls and mutant

without the DLC it has no balance for cal

[cedar laurel]

Don’t take a look at slime rain tooltip

[severe pebble]

is there a modpack ready on steam workshop or something?

[smoky dock]

why do you want a modpack? why not just subscribe to a few yourself?

[silver wadi]

idk

I'm just suggesting based on my own modlist rn, since I also wanted to have a lot of mods running at once

[severe pebble]

Its just to make sure I got everything like

fargo dlc

[finite hawk]

Ive never used a modpack and idk why theyre popular

[severe pebble]

fargo souls

[smoky dock]

well then subscribe to fargo's dlc and fargo's souls

[severe pebble]

and the other ones like health bar

boss indicators

[smoky dock]

then get those ones too

[severe pebble]

idk there is a lot of shit

[severe pebble]

yeah thats what im trying to do

[silver wadi]

list:
Calamity Mod
Calamity Mod Music
Calamity: Wrath of The Gods + Dependencies
Fargo's Mutant Mod
Fargo's Souls Mod
Fargo's Souls DLC

not that hard

[severe pebble]

THANK YOU

[silver wadi]

you can add anything else you want that doesn't affect worldgen or boss AI

if it affects either of those, you add it at your own risk

[limber sage]

terraria is not like minecraft when it comes to mods. You will have to customize your own playthroughs yourself through constant playtesting all sorts of mods together, finding ones that pique your interest and testing them out

[silver wadi]

^

[limber sage]

terraria doesn't have anything like 'datapacks'

which are essentially easily made 'patches' for mods to work together in MC

if you want incompat mods to work in terraria, you need to make the mod yourself, or hope someone already did

[silver wadi]

it's because most peoples' experience with modding games ends at minecraft, and minecraft makes modding incredibly simple for the average user

[severe pebble]

all I was looking for was a popular or playable list of mods, which you alr helped me with so ty ❤️

[limber sage]

ah, I'm not trying to be mean

just realized it coulda sounded that way

[severe pebble]

i understand

[smoky dock]

Yeah, same here

[severe pebble]

dw

[smoky dock]

It's generally better to start small with just a few, then you can expand from there

[limber sage]

yup

recipe browser is pretty much a gurantee need for most people tho

guarantee*

[severe pebble]

honestly I thought modpacks were more popular cause ive always palyed with a lot of mods

[smoky dock]

unfortunately no

[severe pebble]

true

[smoky dock]

95% of users just go onto the workshop and subscribe to everything

[limber sage]

I have my own saved packs in tmodloader, but they're all for specific playthroughs

[severe pebble]

really took the modpacks from minecraft for granted

[limber sage]

yeah

[smoky dock]

and then are surprised when nothing works 😔

[limber sage]

I wish terraria was able to have modpacks like MC, because there are tons of really cool concepts that work well in MC modpacks

but terraria is also limited

compared to MC

[fair geode]

whats a good tm weapon for plants first phase?

[fair geode]

i mean

you just make em yourself

[limber sage]

I have

but what i mean is like

how MC can be modern setting, fantasy setting, horror, slowlife

[fair geode]

@smoky dock :)

[smoky dock]

gungnir if you have integrity

[limber sage]

isn't true excal just really good vs plantera in general?

[smoky dock]

submarine shocker and balls of iron if not

[smoky dock]

also yes probably

[limber sage]

it's what I used in gfb

[humble marlin]

never compare gfb weapons to their regular counterparts

[limber sage]

true excal isn't changed in gfb

[fair geode]

im planning on using it when she goes into phase 2 and the couple moves right after when she doesnt do contact

[smoky dock]

sounds right

i used gungnir in phase one and subshocker in two and three

lynel used true excal iirc

[limber sage]

true excal shines better in phase 2 than phase 1

because of the minions

come to think of it, does gungnir have the effect that excal has?

the uh increased dmg to enemies with more than 50% hp?

[smoky dock]

no clue

didn't care

phase one was half debuffs anyways

[limber sage]

hm

[fair geode]

damn it

[limber sage]

it does, and it's 75% not 50%...wonder where I got 50% from...anyways, yeh

it's also double dmg not just increased dmg

[fair geode]

ye

man

[fast magnet]

and thats astrageldon

[fair geode]

best attempt so far

[humble marlin]

purple guy 💥

[humble marlin]

tragic

youve got this

[silver wadi]

cobalt armor looks so goated now wtf

ty calamity for making cobalt an option over palladium

[fair geode]

yeah im a bit too squishy

[humble marlin]

cobalt is dogshit ass 💥

using it as vanity gives more benefits

[ashen roost]

does anyone know how to unlock this place?

[silver wadi]

beat cryogen

then talk to solyn

[silver wadi]

I mean, it is damage

I'm still gonna swap to mollusk as soon as I go back to the sunken sea

but it's better than just "set bonus: fuck all"

[humble marlin]

less than statigel if you aint running at mach 100

[silver wadi]

they're about the same for mage

little more from cobalt's headpiece, little less from its legs

almost identical defense, 2 less on cobalt

plus the set bonus on top

it's a little better, you get around 5% crit and dmg with just boots at full speed

[humble marlin]

-# cant even argue cuz ive never used cobalt mage qwp

[silver wadi]

lmao

yeah mollusk blows it out of the water as a pre-boss hardmode dmg option

and crystal assassin probably does as well

[humble marlin]

yeah
it does

[silver wadi]

(not preboss but shh it's pre-mech)

[ashen roost]

ily

[humble marlin]

Crystal assasin preboss would be crazy

[smoky dock]

also mollusk is stupid fat

55 defense because like, yeah

[silver wadi]

guh

also chat I have a really stupid but also funny idea hear me out

[humble marlin]

👁️

[silver wadi]

cobalt naginata + flask of crumbling support weapon

poke an enemy to bully

[smoky dock]

mfs be like "20 defense isn't that big of a deal" and then say mollusk is so much bulkier than cobold

[smoky dock]

consider flask of ichor and lunic eye

double support weapon

[silver wadi]

not flask

I'm mage remember

piss book is free

[smoky dock]

ah rightt

[silver wadi]

crumbling is not

[smoky dock]

rad then you can go crumblez

but you still have lunic eye

[oblique eagle]

pure definition of "I'm not touching youuuu 😛 I'm not touching youuuuu 😛" while you're poking them

[silver wadi]

tbh with fargo's AND cal's buffs to the naginata you could unironically use this as a main tmelee option

126 dmg, 23% crit (without melee gear), explosions on hit and 25% less defense

and a better spear anim to boot

[oblique eagle]

I wonder if I'd be a masochist for doing base infernum, no QoL, with just vanilla weapons and armor

[smoky dock]

base infernum without qol is pretty chill

[silver wadi]

the post-ML in question

[smoky dock]

vanilla equipment only will make post-ML particularly cheesy

[oblique eagle]

Who says I'd try to cheese

I beat SCal armorless and accessory(except for wings)less before, I can do this easy peasy

[oblique eagle]

on master death

[ashen roost]

hey was she supposed to drop a key or something? i talked to her and she teleported there but i still cant open the door

[oblique eagle]

totally wont be coming back in 30 minutes whining about how stuff totally needs to be nerfed because last time I played infernum I couldnt beat EoC

[smoky dock]

real

[raven vapor]

guys why is this open ???

[oblique eagle]

it's wild how big the skill jump between armorless scal and fully prepped infernum eoc is for me

[oblique eagle]

go in

[smoky dock]

fucky wucky mod syndrome

[oblique eagle]

good gear is in there

:)

[raven vapor]

i am pre boss right now

[humble marlin]

bosschecklist slop 🔥

[raven vapor]

no way boss checklist caused all those

[humble marlin]

it can and it has

[wintry sparrow]

it hasnt

iirc

[humble marlin]

has

youd be surprised by how much shit bosschecklist breaks

[silver wadi]

permafrost is supposed to give it to you

[oblique eagle]

it once broke my entire game i'm pretty sure

[silver wadi]

hey @smoky dock if you ever do tmelee fargo's DLC

very funny group DPS with a mage setup

[raven vapor]

boss checklist is optifine for terraria

[fair geode]

there we go

[nimble wing]

i'm starting to think a reforge does more for a weapon than a setup

though maybe not much later on like post-golem or so

[fair geode]

guessing scoria armor?

[smoky dock]

it matters quite alot

[silver wadi]

depends on how specialized your setup is

if you have a lot of general accessories that buff crit and damage universally, then you'll have fairly good performance even on off-class weapons

[smoky dock]

Reforges improve the base stats of a weapon so they respond better to bonuses

[smoky dock]

yeah

[silver wadi]

if you have a lot of accessories that specify "magic dmg" or whatever, you'll have poor performance

[fair geode]

god damn it i gotta get the damn abyss accs now i always forget

[smoky dock]

i'll save you some time and tell you that scoria is post-Golem, not post-Plantera

[fair geode]

this is good irght

[fair geode]

oh right

[silver wadi]

this weapon's projectile needs a resprite so bad

[fast magnet]

why isnt the bereft vassal tp working

[fair geode]

man

[fair geode]

for golem i mean

[silver wadi]

your ass is NOT running ankh shield AND ornate shield still pre-golem

get asgard's valor

[fair geode]

i need to kill calclone right

[silver wadi]

yeah for cores

should also probably consider swapping to chlorophyte, reaver, or turtle

iirc adamantite is still a little competitive for damage alone, but those three do a lot more than just the damage

[fair geode]

i cant get any new accs right

[narrow ice]

what melee weapon should i use for infernum multiplayer moon lord?

is myrindael good?

[grim swallow]

i found my new favourite weapon

nova arc defuser

[gaunt trail]

Ok, so my world glitched out a lot (Prob my fault). I may have ruined my chance at completing the Solyn quests the right way and fighting the boss the right way. I reset the quest line while messing around with the debug stuff. I already opened the door to the hidden ice fort thing. I need to open it again due to resetting the quests is it possible to "close" the door to be able to open it again? (Sorry for lengthy paragraph)

i need help

[bold rose]

WHAT IS THE BEST MAGE WEP FOR ASTRAGELDON

[fair geode]

ok cool calclone done

[grim swallow]

hey guys how do I enter the bereft vassal world in multiplayer

[limber sage]

every player has to enter the dimension at about the same time

otherwise it crashes

[grim swallow]

I mean we couldnt even enter

[fair geode]

funky loadout lol

[humble marlin]

all of your video settings should be in color light and with waves at high quality

[grim swallow]

intersting

[silver wadi]

mage loadout be like

[cyan moss]

what specs do i need to run calamity, wrath of the gods, hunt of the old gods, wrath of the machines, calamity entropy at the same time
i got a rtx 4060 16 gigs ddr4 and a intel i5 10400f and it cant go past 50 fps

[silver wadi]

should probably find something to replace statigel ench with

the amount of sacrifices I'd make to even be able to reach 50 fps

I call it a good day if I get 20-30

istg why tf does the astral infection ALWAYS spawn in the snow

[fair geode]

BRO

bitchass

[silver wadi]

mollusk + glorious end might be my new religion

[vale heart]

Idk maybe because it always has to spawn on the snow side

[grim swallow]

I start to realise even more how unbalanced defence builds are in infernum

[silver wadi]

see, brilliant thought, what if we just fuckin made it go back to when it spawned behind the dungeon

instead of nuking the snow every playthrough

[grim swallow]

our snow biome is currently a war between hallow and astral

[fair geode]

any tips for tm golem?

[chilly stream]

whats mecha mayhem

[grim swallow]

if I remember its fighting all 3 mechs at the same time

[light fable]

Chaos

[chilly stream]

i did it now

[nimble wing]

great timing https://youtu.be/trO9r_ks5vI

[light fable]

Pro

[silver wadi]

proud to say I first tried masodeath permafrost

the shellfish minions are putting in work

[grim swallow]

Hey guys
Is omega blue with the bonus better dps wise than ranger auric

Dont ask me why I want to do that

[waxen tide]

no

you would have to like always hug a boss but then its just not worth

[grim swallow]

Then what if I switch to omega blue use the buff and press F1 to switch back to the main set

[gloomy wedge]

mom come pick me up im scared

[grim swallow]

Waut nvm I am stupid

I meant god slayer not auric

[gloomy wedge]

so which mod even is that that shows the dps in chat

ive been trying to find it forever

or not dps

like the clear time

[light fable]

Time to grind for the equipment needed to kill providence

🙏

[fair geode]

since ur good whats a good weapon for a not no hit run

[waxen tide]

then yeah omega blue is better

[silver wadi]

p sure it's nycro's nohit efficiency

[grim swallow]

Okay nice

[gloomy wedge]

thanks

[light fable]

Yo guys what alcohol do I use for providence? I've been using sake for some time now but it decreases my defense

[silver wadi]

they all do that

[light fable]

And I dont want providence to melt me

[fast magnet]

should i just not use summoner intergelactic

the set bonus is really good but it kills my frames

[silver wadi]

all alcohols either decrease regen or defense

[light fable]

Damn

Im gonna keep using sake then

[silver wadi]

moonshine gives you a defense and DR buff

but decreases regen

and purple haze gives increased i-frames and dmg, but less defense

[nimble wing]

i mean were you watching the dps meter

it's butcher's chainsaw

[fair geode]

yeah i know its buthers chainsaw but

eh whatever ill grind for it

[grim swallow]

Hey guys

What 3 alcohols should be used for absolute glass cannon

[waxen tide]

everclear + moscow mule

[grim swallow]

Okay what are their downsides tho

[night fractal]

a lot of less defense and regen

[grim swallow]

Okay so nothing that matters

My friend is doing absolute tank build

I had to run after him and cal clone just to hit her

[light fable]

Just get a healer from thorium and done

You do damage, your friend absorbs damage and the healer keeps him alive

[night fractal]

-5 HP/sec matters

from everclear

[waxen tide]

true thorium has a cure for everything

[night fractal]

mostly bc it can put you into negative

[grim swallow]

I will be dying?

[night fractal]

You lose 5 HP/sec regen

So it depends on your own life regeneration

[grim swallow]

I mean I dont thinj I have 6 life regen

[night fractal]

if you have 5 HP/s or more you'll be fine

[grim swallow]

And thats rn and I am planning on using omega blue later

[night fractal]

Natural life regen can hit like 4 HP/sec

[night fractal]

omega blue is the last thing to change Regen, so it wouldn't matter

[grim swallow]

I mean thats when staying still yeah?

[night fractal]

Standing still is more like 8-10

but if you get hit it'll be reset, so basically don't get hit

[grim swallow]

So I wont be dying if I have everclear and omega blue

[grim swallow]

So basically if I get hit i lose extra 20-30 hp?

[night fractal]

probably yea

[grim swallow]

Okay I am gonna try that and I will see how it works out

[night fractal]

yeah, omega blue just sets life regen to 0 if it is positive after everything else applies

[grim swallow]

And if I am not using everclear because my regen is like 4 or so what do I use

[light fable]

Going to the providence fight now

May god help me

[fair geode]

ok cool

thanks

[night fractal]

What class and weapon

[grim swallow]

I am ranger

We are just before moonlord so I will probably use vortex blaster/phantasm for moonlord

[night fractal]

hmm I do not know then

[humble marlin]

just do the basic combo

purple haze + moscow mule + tequila sunrise

[grim swallow]

Or I will do some stupid stuff and use nova arc defuser

Or what is it called

[night fractal]

can't wait for this to die 🙏

[silver wadi]

I'll be there with you if the alcohols are getting reworked to actually do shit

[grim swallow]

Wait red wine got reworked?

[silver wadi]

half of them are just complete nothingburgers of stat slop

[grim swallow]

I remember it being a 200 heal but less regen thing

[light fable]

Bro

I was almost finished killing providence

And a solar eclipse spawned in

😭

[fair geode]

is omniblade good

[woven rune]

good range but meh DPS

compared to the Chainsaw anyway

[night fractal]

They are

only everclear and old fashioned aren't being changed

[grim swallow]

Yeah half of them seem useless

Because tell me whats the point of grape beer

[humble marlin]

agreed

[fair geode]

accs are good right?

[grim swallow]

Its a pre hm healing pot+ pre hm mana pot at the cost of 3% less defense

[humble marlin]

i would change berserkers but idk for what

[grim swallow]

I dont see a reason to not upgrade the gauntlet into fire gauntlet

[woven rune]

berserker glove -> celestial shell

glove -> fire gauntlet

[night fractal]

Now to make bullets and arrows home in !!

[humble marlin]

oh yeah shell

[humble marlin]

[grim swallow]

Interesting

[woven rune]

if you're going with Hydrothermic I imagine the Hadal Mantle(?) is better than Flame Wings

[humble marlin]

its not

[woven rune]

should have better flight stats and comparable melee boosts

how so

[night fractal]

Steampunk is the ideal

Anyway

[woven rune]

ig you lose out on 5% crit chance but for better wings its probably fine

[woven rune]

true

[grim swallow]

And may I ask the reasoning for flower boots upgrade instead of angelic threads

[woven rune]

tank

[night fractal]

angel treads are also very worth it for speed

they're much, much faster than fairy

[woven rune]

oh yeah

[grim swallow]

And I also think considering egg sword as a weapon is a good idea

[light fable]

Killed providence and got out of the fight with only 4 hits taken

: D

[fair geode]

true melee

[grim swallow]

Oh

Amd also wings shouldn't matter rn cuz you will still get fishrons

[fair geode]

idiot

[limber sage]

that pillar looks interesting

what tex pack is it from?

[fair geode]

tooth and nails

[limber sage]

oh, I have that one too, but I haven't actually used it yet...I prefer a different one lately

I think it's...lithium?

now I gotta check

Lithium Terraria

is a tex pack i enjoy

[fair geode]

finally got this set up

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/HVZHtJeqcFoZ
@smoky dock hey buddy

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-embedfail-ludcord-gif-20557430

[nimble wing]

were embeds recently disabled here or what

[smoky dock]

no idea

[fair geode]

ok so

what do i get now that solar pillars dead

[smoky dock]

Experiment and Find Out

[fair geode]

prog break time