transportation

[silent oak]

Yeah that’s what you get when your buying 90s cars

Specifically trucks

[jagged sentinel]

It's an especially common issue with 2nd gen Cummins trucks though

[silent oak]

Damn expensive to fix?

[jagged sentinel]

Whatever the price of replacing a dashboard is

[silent oak]

Fucking plastic ass interior

[jagged sentinel]

Especially one that's been out of production 20 years

[jagged sentinel]

American quality baby

[silent oak]

Gotta give the interior plastic the worst quality

[jagged sentinel]

The engine in the 2nd gen Cummins will last absolutely forever though so

[silent oak]

Atleast finding interior replacements is pretty easy

[jagged sentinel]

Provided you take half decent care of it anyway

[jagged sentinel]

For an entire dashboard though?

[silent oak]

eBay has some

[jagged sentinel]

120 on the low end it looks like

[silent oak]

How reliable are Cummins motors

Are they still used

[jagged sentinel]

2nd gen Cummins are bulletproof, but they're all good

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, and they will be until dodge somehow loses Cummins

[silent oak]

Until Stellantis makes ram go EV

[swift olive]

A bike can fix it

[jagged sentinel]

Diesel will still be around for awhile yet

[silent oak]

That’s why I love diesel

[jagged sentinel]

Commercial transportation industry advances at a different rate to regular cars

Emissions regulations have not been kind to diesel engines though

And they aren't getting any nicer

[silent oak]

Well depends state per state

[jagged sentinel]

Not by much

[silent oak]

California HATES any car that isn’t an EV

[jagged sentinel]

They have to abide by the laws of every state, which means they're building it to the specs of the most stringent states so it doesn't really matter what the others are doing

Plus the EPA does not fuck around when it comes to diesel emissions

[silent oak]

Then truckers go out of biz!

[jagged sentinel]

Light duty and medium/heavy duty are different

The EPA knows it has to be less stringent for medium/heavy duty because of how much the country relies on them

[silent oak]

How long till diesel based cars go on the decline!

Unless the EPA wants to make sure only big rigs and medium trucks can use diesel

[jagged sentinel]

Diesel engines in passenger cars are very good on gas and I'd imagine the EPA likes that

[silent oak]

But the emissions

They don’t like

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

Eh epa does it own thing

[jagged sentinel]

Better fuel efficiency means less fuel burned over time which means lower emissions

[jagged sentinel]

As much as "doing their own thing" a federal agency can really do

They aren't just automotive focused anyway

[silent oak]

Yeah I trust the epa as much as I trust other Feds

[jagged sentinel]

I understand the need for their existence but they ruin car people's fun

[silent oak]

And possibly even classic cars

[jagged sentinel]

They should be speaking more about how much cleaner and safer nuclear energy is then the general public thinks it is but that's not a conversation for this channel

[silent oak]

Yeah

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izhtAP7l-nk

[kind osprey]

Oh yea that guy is insane

[static gale]

it's like tavarish but not a 20 part series

[swift olive]

Mat is one of the best Car guys on YT

I love his vods

[swift olive]

yea each video has a goal, he never upload anything without reaching that goal.

not like others who will say at the end of 50 mins video: "Oh I missed one Nut!"

ffs Deezz nutzz

[loud spade]

2 hour video though

[obtuse urchin]

Too long

Where is the subway surfers

[swift olive]

That's a full build video, he usually upload 50 min to 1 hour videos. Also he has 2 channels( this is the second one)

[naive thorn]

Someone cooked here

[swift olive]

Hell yea I can see his taste

[sage roost]

Same thing but the opposite

[obtuse urchin]

I love this spec

[jagged sentinel]

[naive thorn]

[daring panther]

yo that porsch is clean

[mental lion]

Lakers spec

[swift olive]

GTA irl

The road closed sign in front of the Cop 💀

[manic flame]

takeovers are such a stain on car culture bro

[pallid token]

The f*ck is this

Leaked mission from gta 6

[kind osprey]

my fuckin eyes

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[swift olive]

It might be over. I know

[mental lion]

Why would people do this

He’s only doing his job

[night steeple]

pulled up in a classic car meet

[obtuse urchin]

Gtb6 beauty

[night steeple]

it really is, the paint is flawless

the trans am is my fav in the bunch

[jagged sentinel]

People suck

[night steeple]

miat family

[opal breach]

who's the car they adopted

[night steeple]

I think that's an MX3, so kinda family i guess?

[opal breach]

ah so its a cousin my bad

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp47boI0_Vo

[mental lion]

Its sad that he broke the engine

[static gale]

Spoilers smh my head

[swift olive]

there should be a command to hide spoilers

||like this one||

[jagged sentinel]

||this is how you type it||

[swift olive]

or just use "/spoiler"

[naive thorn]

||spoiler||

Ohh

[mental lion]

Mb

[swift olive]

I love the M5 Competition, but God damn the sound of that CLS63

[mental lion]

The amg definitely aint stock

[night steeple]

I love this car, it still runs despite everything being semi-broken

[swift olive]

it's the kind of car that u don't care about it for too long and when u start taking care of it, it starts getting big problems

[night steeple]

fr, i tried fixing some stuff like belts and mounts but it just wants to vibrate and squeak anyway no matter how they tightened / loosened it

[kind osprey]

Stock vette vs a bored out rocket I assume

[jagged sentinel]

It also helps that the AMG has AWD, and it's just a hunch but I think that's a Brabus

Note the clearly audible skittering from the Corvette, and I think the Corvette is also modified as well, those rear tires stick out to me

[jagged sentinel]

My only basis for this hunch is that the place where a Merc 3-pointed star would be is brighter and more white than a regular MB badge would be in those conditions and video quality, especially if it was optioned with a darker-colored badge

ADHD hyperfocus go brr

[jagged sentinel]

And something sticking out of the hood area that I just noticed

If it's as modified as I think it is, it would stand a fighting chance in a roller. Alright I'll stop overanalyzing the video and find something better to do

[runic sierra]

Does anyone have the 2016 Ford gt aka bullet

[naive thorn]

Boy that's not something that spawns commonly

[runic sierra]

Wym

[naive thorn]

[nova estuary]

!lfg @runic sierravehicles

[stuck owl]

@runic sierra, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps5｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino: #ps5｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps5｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps5｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps5｜other-lfg

Requested by: @nova estuary

[naive thorn]

Lmao

[jagged sentinel]

That's not the bullet

Side note: this is not the right channel

[nova estuary]

Lil drop of some cars I've valeted 😁

[silent oak]

Is it turbo?

[long wyvern]

911 GT3

[silent oak]

So loud and sexy yes

It doesn’t sound as harsh as a 140 dcb.. that’s gun shot range.. so my guess is 110 dcb or120

[sage roost]

Nice 240z tbh

[kind osprey]

Lmao

[swift olive]

[burnt raven]

It just doesn't get any better than this

[kind osprey]

Torquee boi

[steady cove]

Weird looking 240z

[nova estuary]

Most have been some special edition 🤷

[jagged sentinel]

He just burned 50k miles of life from that chassis

Minimum

[burnt raven]

😭

[jagged sentinel]

That being said, it'll still last several hundred thousand if taken care of

Even towing at or near max load, I see 200,000 being achieved with basic maintenance taken care of

Can't say the same about the transmission tho

[severe tangle]

Rally raid/hill climb Porsches are something else

[night steeple]

exited an intersection and tried to out-drag another car to merge ahead but failed miserably, my car has failed to kickdown because the ac was on and it eats power
car's prevented me from road raging lmao

[kind osprey]

"What would you do with all that extra money and no job wouldn't it be boring?"

Me 0.0001 seconds after receiving the money:

[glacial plank]

are newer cars more unreliable than older ones ?

and is there any statistics that show that to be the case

older cars seem to be better in cold because the engines tolerances are more loose

[kind osprey]

Car reliability is based more upon the brand and place of origin than the period of time it was built. The decade it was made has a factor but it is more of a background factor

[glacial plank]

japanese cars seem to be really good in that regards

would think those are top of the leaderboards

[kind osprey]

In the 60's people thought Japanese cars were shitty golf carts with a frame over them and some doors, by the late 70's they were dominating

American cars just had the shittiest most inefficient powertrauns cause gas was cheap and we didn't have to care about the environment

[glacial plank]

i never really had any bad personal experiences with any brand so its interesting to see what people think

american cars have come a long way in that

[kind osprey]

So safe to say you never owned a Jeep, Maserati, Fiat, or Range Rover

[kind osprey]

All cars have since the only way to legally manufacture a car is if it meets strict requirements.

Most new cars are very similar to each other and offer relatively the same experience

[glacial plank]

yeah im poor

mostly nissans toyotas and vag concern

also a opel currently

my favourite car so far

[kind osprey]

Those are pretty safe cars in terms of reliability

[dire shard]

reliability has flipped its nose

in truth most modern day cars are pretty reliable if you stick to their recommended maintenance schedules - but for some people, reliability is a measure for how much they can get away with abusing their car by neglecting maintenance, which is a stupid definition

nissan has shit itself so hard with its cvt issues that you could almost say it's half of the reason why nissan is going bankrupt

meanwhile, bmw has improved their reliability record by sticking the b58 into everything, iterating the n63/s63 like four times

[sage roost]

Problem with those is that they would blow up with no prior warning

even if you try to do maintenance

[untold girder]

Any IRL vehicle enthusiasts here rn? Need some assistance finding what this is

[static gale]

Lamborghini Huracan, no?

[kind osprey]

2014-2018 awd model

[dire shard]

avio trim

[kind osprey]

Number 4,231

[dire shard]

there's only 250 avios

let's not get hasty

as far as lamborghinis go, 250 is actually not that little, and the avio wasn't really anything more than just a livery and interior

no performance changes, no aero

really cool appearance, though

[kind osprey]

I'm spreading misinformation on the internet sonic why must you foil my plan

[dire shard]

i'm gonna piss on the fucking moon

[kind osprey]

@jagged estuary

[jagged estuary]

Noooooo

[mental lion]

Also service costs is a measure of a cars reliability. And the availability of its parts.

[jagged sentinel]

Ford F-150

[opal breach]

Def a 1969 Camaro

[steady cove]

Portugal

The place you find a 50.000km bmw e36s for 5k €

[opal forum]

Most of these either end up a ditch somewhere or get transformed into a drift car... and then end up in a ditch

Rest be assured, that finding a granny title E36 is probably like finding a needle in a haystack

[steady cove]

Im europe not usa

[swift olive]

It deserves much more attention and restoration if needed. Good car

Good price for a drift project tho

Or for an engine swap

[royal plover]

Funny to me how you say that and 2 post bellow fakecode want to make it into a drift car

[swift olive]

why not, it needs a lot of upgrades tho

New steering wheel cover

[opal forum]

Ok and? I am from Europe too and it's literally the exact same here.

[steady cove]

Yeah like not even 1% of people that buy a e36 will make it into a project car much less a drift one

If anything they ll make it a daily which is what that car is good for imho

[dire shard]

do you want to buy a e36 318

[opal forum]

E36 (especially coupe) was considered a young student's dream car and a good portion of those don't exactly have a good maintenance or upkeeping history...

[steady cove]

That changes what i said where

Oh i get it, the people that buy e36s COULD be younger so that means they should all be drift missiles or trash
-Got it
-That makes sense

I hope the citroen amis are ok

[steady cove]

Yes i do

Tbh i ll buy anything as a car not only an e36

But i want something different. Not a toyota corolla hatchback

Something

Something different

I saw a lexus ls400 rhd aswell i really liked it

It has the v8

Vroom vroom

I like those old grandpa cars they are a cool

A cool

😎

[steady cove]

Ur also saying this like a 50.000km car will have a big extended maintenance or upkeep history. If anything you need to change bushings

Maybe an oil change. Its basically a semi new car km wise.

[craggy hare]

Looks cool

[swift olive]

Thanks dude

[forest comet]

Hello

[wet portal]

Is it worth it to modify my dad's Mitsubishi galant

[opal forum]

A 50k km car is far more likely to not have been abused and, yk, an actual granny spec

[steady cove]

Thats what im sayinggg

[sage roost]

Rolled back odometer if I've ever seen one

[kind osprey]

A wild gt3rs

[opal forum]

then idk what the fuss is all about

[forest comet]

Hello

[onyx rivet]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-abandons-split-model-names-ice-and-ev-models

lol

lmao, even

[dire shard]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 it's over

[swift olive]

oh no

[jagged sentinel]

rofl, perhaps

[swift olive]

Hehe, maybe no maybe yes

[mental lion]

There’s no more “etrons”?

[sage roost]

No there still will be

they wanted to scrap the Etron name and have the even numbers be the EVs

but that failed

[night gale]

Kinda want to cop this

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aHVvIY2s4v0?si=ItT7bd-CnsRrHP3F

What did I just watch

[swift olive]

Do it!

[static gale]

Thought they were gonna hit the white car at the end there

Wonder how long it's gonna take to get all that anti seize off

[swift olive]

The virus

[naive thorn]

[dire shard]

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/nissan-honda-may-call-off-merger-talks-asahi-says-2025-02-04/

🤔 how are they gonna pull back then

[static gale]

God, just, like

Honda's logo

It's so iconic, that shade of red, too

[dire shard]

let's see paul allen's logo

[silent oak]

Out of curiosity.. can you fit rally style suspension on a challenger?

[static gale]

yes?

[silent oak]

Is it pricy?

I kinda want to have rally suspension

[static gale]

uhhh, yeah? depends on if you just mean off-road capable or some crazy setup

[static gale]

so you want it to handle like an even bigger boat on tarmac?

[silent oak]

Yess

Embracing the boat

I’d like to also have it for the winter months my state gets

It’s heavy snow

[dire shard]

don't forget your foglights and bull bars

mad max the shit out of it

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hm0QRAilFMM?si=P9gR5ruZtltFlKxk

[silent oak]

exactly

[obtuse urchin]

I’m sick now

[onyx rivet]

sf90 stradale if it was good

[fierce barn]

#transportation

[mental lion]

Happy sf90:

[hybrid charm]

@jagged sentinel

Off our recent conversation 🤣

[dire shard]

https://tenor.com/view/drip-goku-drip-goku-dripping-dripgod-gif-25245981

[sage roost]

The greatest of all time, and Lewis Hamilton

[opal forum]

perfect

[trail trail]

Bruh

[loud spade]

"What's the worst thing that can happen" a question I didn't ask myself before doing my first oil change

Broke the oil drain plug bolt and spilled oil on the ground, got a new one after looking in 5 places, put the bolt in, remembered I forgot to put the spring and strainer in, took it out again and put those in, overfilled the bike because it was on the side stand, spilled more oil when I put it on the center stand, then finally got the right level and started it up no problem

And this oil that I got... I was suspicious from the cheap price but went against my instincts and it turned out to be too thin so I'll be changing it out soon if the bike starts burning oil

[dire shard]

this... probably won't apply to motorcycles

at least i never tried

but you can typically find the manufacturer recommended weight oil you need for your car by using liquimoly's vehicle search

[loud spade]

I have the owner’s manual and it says 10w30 is recommended (also provides a chart for weight depending on your area’s temps) but I used 20w50 yet it was still too thin

I guess this brand is just garbage

Made in UAE

last time I used motul, much better

[storm terrace]

Anyone get a gta car irl?

[dire shard]

isn't the irl banshee in a collection somewhere

at least one person got it

[opal breach]

I know it appears in an episode of better call saul

[opal socket]

Idk

[cinder olive]

Vroom

[onyx rivet]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/business/honda-nissan-merger.html

[quartz prawn]

no way

think its a good call for honda tho

[dire shard]

yeah

i don't believe in nissan

i do think nissan is screwing themselves here though

[kind osprey]

Nissan is the next Mitsubishi

Not quite dead, but basically in the coffin

[opal forum]

Kinda crazy how damn near every manufacturer has changed their logo, but Honda still sticks to the good ol' trusty one that they still have

[sage roost]

where I live youd think Nissan is thriving

This behemoth was released in November and it's already everywhere

[naive thorn]

Who's this new guy

[floral lava]

where bus

[quartz prawn]

im assuming you live in the middle east haha

[naive thorn]

Only relevant nissan market lol

[shrewd hollow]

Hey guys, I'm trying to the vapid contender, but it's not in southern S.A auto anymore. Can anyone that already owns it help me buy it through the ls car meet, thanks

[jagged sentinel]

#gta-vehicles

[silver lintel]

@rapid cedar what kinda budget you got

[rapid cedar]

Probably in range of 3000 euros

Maybe a bit more

250-450cc

[silver lintel]

This is mine

[rapid cedar]

Is it KTM duke?

[silver lintel]

MV Agusta Brutale 675

[rapid cedar]

Oh

[silver lintel]

You got A?

[rapid cedar]

Looks like a Duke from this side

Yep

[silver lintel]

They are similar

[rapid cedar]

Naked bikes are cool af

[silver lintel]

Wanna know something fun?

[rapid cedar]

sure

[silver lintel]

My 675 smokes MT-09's on everything but top speed

Only 0.2s slower on 0-100 than a duke 1390

[rapid cedar]

Most of bikers say MTs are overestimated

[silver lintel]

125HP at 167kg

stock

[rapid cedar]

Thats a brutal hp to weight ratio

[silver lintel]

Yep

[rapid cedar]

My bro has Suzuki Katana with 110hp

Its really hard to drive

[silver lintel]

this is my old bike

Yamaha XJ6-N

MASSIVE difference

i went from 600cc, 76hp at 208kg, to 675cc, 125hp at 167kg

[rapid cedar]

I was driving Kawa 6nr in the driving school

Old one tho

2009 or 2010

[silver lintel]

was curious what it could do in second gear (on private property)

[rapid cedar]

Its cool, but I dont really like seat position and vibration at higher rev was horrible

[rapid cedar]

Does it gets too windy?

[silver lintel]

i got a small windshield on it

most of the wind gets blown over my head, only my shoulders catch some wind

on my old bike i was almost blown off past 160

on this one i can do 200 with no issue

[rapid cedar]

Yep

I feel like this aint type of a bike for my height

[silver lintel]

how tall are you?

[rapid cedar]

187

[silver lintel]

1cm taller than me

[rapid cedar]

And I dont really like being cramped behind this mini windshield

[silver lintel]

oh i dont have to duck at all

[rapid cedar]

rly?

[silver lintel]

ye

[rapid cedar]

I was thinking about ktm 390 duke

Its a nice bike

[silver lintel]

question though

why you starting below 600cc when you have A

[rapid cedar]

Idk I just want to get feel of bikes

I didnt drive bikes since I was a kid

[silver lintel]

you had lessons on a 600 right?

[rapid cedar]

And even then I drove 50 cc mopeds

[rapid cedar]

Yes

But only in city

[silver lintel]

Then anything below 600 is gonna feel slow

[rapid cedar]

And at 40-50kph

[silver lintel]

i started out on this

You didnt do highways in your lessons?

[rapid cedar]

Nope

[silver lintel]

tf

You got your license without highway experience?

[rapid cedar]

I had AM category

So I only had 15 hours of driving lessons

[silver lintel]

mind me asking where you are from?

[rapid cedar]

Serbia

[silver lintel]

hmm

very different rules then

You get lessons on all kinds of streets here

city, towns, highways

Exams are a mix of everything too

2 different exams

[rapid cedar]

That would be ideal

[silver lintel]

1 for manouvres

1 for roads

[rapid cedar]

But exams here are always in the city

[silver lintel]

If you got your license after only 15 hours and no highway experience, then yeah start at ~300cc

[rapid cedar]

Yep, exactly my reason

Somewhere in range 35-45HP

Perharps a supermoto like your Aprilia is also a good choice

Put different tyres and you have a cross bike

[silver lintel]

That was a moped

[rapid cedar]

Oh

Looks bigger on a pic

[loud spade]

is it though

mopeds have CVTs

[silver lintel]

It is here

Anything under 50cc is classed as a moped/scooter

Anything over 49cc is a motorcycle

[loud spade]

So this is a motorcycle

60cc

[silver lintel]

In the netherlands, yes

[rapid cedar]

Here, to be classified as a moped, it also cant go past 45kmh and cant have over 3.5KW

[silver lintel]

If its over 49cc you need a motorcycle license

[loud spade]

Anything with an engine on two wheels you need a motorcycle license here

And we don't differenciate between moped/scooter and motorcycle but obviously there are different licenses for bigger bikes

[silver lintel]

Here you can get a scooter license at 16

You can ride anything under 50cc, max 45kmph

[rapid cedar]

I got my AM at 13

It was called different back then, and wasnt limited to 45Kmh

I had Tomos ATX, was a popular cross bike back then, with a modified carburetor, could go 85 ez

[loud spade]

Meanwhile people here drive with no license because you can’t get one since 5-6 years

I think now they’ve rolled some new tests and are starting to hand out riding licenses

[rapid cedar]

Can't get a driving license for so long? Why?

[loud spade]

Lots of corruption

[rapid cedar]

Ah ok

Aint much better here either

Hopefully at least we wont come to the point where ppl drive without license
Even tho I feel sometimes like majority of drivers just bought their licenses in a liquor shop

[sleek fern]

Ah beautiful

[static gale]

was something stolen? is something broken? i don't get what I'm looking at

[sleek fern]

My wheel is out of its place

[static gale]

what happened to the lugnuts?

[rose sierra]

Wow what a marketplace find

[floral lava]

buy it

[sage roost]

Not so mini now is it

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsvmBlC-XQo

[river dragon]

do yall know the name of that one off-road military type car that has the entire back covered so you can’t even shoot out of it?

[soft mica]

i love transportation

[rose sierra]

Bro that shit was like 15k

[dire shard]

we have mini countryman at home

[vestal garnet]

https://x.com/BMW/status/1891457699289739331

BMW (@BMW) on X

Heart of Joy, powered by pure adrenaline.
The BMW Vision Driving Experience.
Stay tuned for April 2025!

The BMW Vision Driving Experience is a Vision Vehicle, a Test Rig, that is not available for purchase.

#BMW #NeueKlasse #HeartOfJoy #BMWVisionDrivingExperience

X · Feb 17, 2025, 12:00 PM

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[silent oak]

Looks like the dodge charger EVs cousin with a few more chromosomes.

[naive thorn]

Ts is coming to gta

[vestal garnet]

[obtuse urchin]

I… like it

[sage roost]

What the fuck am I looking at

[swift olive]

They cheated and took the design from GTA cars

Who let them cook

[kind osprey]

2600 miles is crazy

[dire shard]

this elise having less mileage than that ariel atom is really funny

[naive thorn]

Get the BMW

[kind osprey]

I love the 540i but that thing looks like a rolling problem

the true miles are unknown and it looks really modified

[naive thorn]

Yeah that's why you should get it

[kind osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060231686425690183/1236282725246304286/VID_GIF-1695923991.gif

[naive thorn]

Epikderpyhippo

[jagged sentinel]

What is going on over at BMW's styling department

[kind osprey]

Crack cocaine

[jagged sentinel]

Must be the bad kind then

[opal forum]

The fact, that some people actually like how it looks makes me lose hope in humanity

[soft mica]

where can i buy the animal?

[jagged sentinel]

the what now?

[silent oak]

that car looks like if a ten year old had to sketch a BMW from memory lol

[vestal garnet]

[vestal garnet]

This design looks way better now💀

[mental lion]

This m5 isnt ugly

But it performs worse than last gen so what’s the point

And its very heavy

[kind osprey]

It's kinda the opposite

it looks ugly but it'll smoke the last gen when it comes to the numbers on the paper

it probably feels heavy to drive though

they can't beat physics now matter how stiff or good the tires are

[opal breach]

Still better looking bmws

[opal forum]

Compared to F90, it looks attrocious

[mental lion]

I said isn’t “ugly” doesn’t mean its attractive

[mental lion]

The f90 and f10 is the most bmw looking bmws

[mental lion]

It sure does does have more power

But this power is lost with the weight increase

[sage roost]

it's slower than the F90

enough said

[opal breach]

Fair point

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKDdsxIU2yY

peepo cheat

[kind osprey]

I would get a car for the color alone if it was in this gorgeous of a blue

Holy shit that is beautiful

[static gale]

up to 72 months

[loud spade]

That’s only $2744 per month

[swift olive]

Yea I don't mind the blue 💙

[silent oak]

Anyone think panther pink is a good color on a challenger

Does it match the body lines of the modern one?

[onyx rivet]

actually yeah, this take
its proportions are off and the styling is awkwardly stupid but its not that ugly

the wagon makes whatever the hell the G90 is trying to present itself slightly better

[dire shard]

"it's not that bad"

[vestal garnet]

It is ugly u compare it to the previous gen of M5

[onyx rivet]

well yeah that would be a given

all previous generations of BMWs were better looking than their current iterations

pre-facelift F90 is my favourite looking M5

[static gale]

slidey boi

[dire shard]

it is ugly

[silent oak]

I like the bmw m6 more imo

[naive thorn]

Not to be a smartass but,,,

"I like" is already an opinion so you don't need the "imo"

But yeah

[silent oak]

I think wider cars have an appeal to me

[mental lion]

It will be 60k next year

[jagged sentinel]

Lol

[swift olive]

1986–1987 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth

[opal forum]

Finally someone, who agrees that the Pre-LCI is better looking

[naive thorn]

All I see is German engineering

And some Italian

[mental lion]

All i see is some trash body kits

[swift olive]

[onyx rivet]

who is not agreeing that the release F90 isnt the better style???

you telling me there are people who actually like the ebay aftermarket headlights and taillights on the facelift?

[soft mica]

damn where can i get one

[soft mica]

this looks nice

[maiden sphinx]

who know this car

[onyx rivet]

second gen Kia Forte

or the Hyundai Elantra N if you mean the blue car

you dont recognise the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S?

[maiden sphinx]

nah

next to brocken kia

[distant vine]

You could have tried Google photos first

[swift olive]

Interesting

[kind osprey]

I miss when bmw made good looking cars

[swift olive]

[dawn drift]

Bmw Punto

[static gale]

looks like one of my beamng creations

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lNnsQCcr3GM?si=NjQVJmgs6zR6kUe7

[dawn drift]

I thought this was Volkswagen when I was driving one day. Then I got closer and oh.. ugly bmw

[sage roost]

The new Audi A6 was leaked and it basically looks like the Q7 in wagon form

[lavish agate]

Yee its the new X2
Its not rlly ugly to me tbh

[opal forum]

Please don't speak to me

Matter of fact, i am issuing a restraining order

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

[lavish agate]

?? Who the hell even tagged u bro

[swift olive]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q-ZAVHnrkdw/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLAtrDOpGvTloHLC09A0WV407SRqyg

MG RX8 2024 is looking more like a BMW than the real BMW's

which is a china copy of the bmw

https://images.wapcar.my/file1/7ebee4bc4f91429092bac7923ab8cbfa_750x420.jpg

https://s.alicdn.com/@sc04/kf/H7e9136f284544c339eb52a61df8a8e83O.jpg_720x720q50.jpg Changan Uni-T 2023

[mental lion]

Fake urus

I mean its not trying to be an urus

[swift olive]

with fake Mansory kit

but it looks great ngl

[mental lion]

Kinda like the front end

[swift olive]

I mean for a daily use could be good idk

[sage roost]

Where I live the BMW dealers double as MG and mini dealers as well

[mental lion]

Bmw owns mini

Does it also own MG?

[fleet owl]

For any bmw enjoyers

[fleet owl]

Chinese state owned car maker

[dawn drift]

You spotted?

[fleet owl]

Guy who lives down the street from me

[dawn drift]

Looks good, the car I mean

[fleet owl]

Yeah the plate is cool too

Probably cost a bit

[dawn drift]

Yeah, custom plates are here like 1k each iirc

[fleet owl]

More if it's got M3 in it

But yeah minimum 1k probably even 2k for a X1-9 XXX

[naive thorn]

Why so expensive

[dawn drift]

You can sell plates there iirc?

[fleet owl]

Yeah

[dawn drift]

Thats not a thing here, 1k at inspection station to get a custom plate. More limits in creating one than in UK I think

[fleet owl]

Yeah it's pretty laxed here surprisingly. The government itself sell off plates in regular auctions

[dawn drift]

Nice

[kind osprey]

Custom plates here cost like $140 a year

[soft mica]

In MS i had to pay an extra 90 for a custom plate

totalled like 250

[heavy yarrow]

TF is that

[dawn drift]

Coil on plug ignition

[heavy yarrow]

That is some advanced stuff
Thx either way :3

[naive thorn]

Yeah ignition coil

[fleet owl]

Good thing about them here is that while theyre incredibly expensive, once you pay you own it for life. And if the plate costs over say 5k from the government itself, chance is 99% that itll be worth a lot more in the future

[hybrid charm]

Antidisestablishmenterianism

[kind osprey]

Oh like Dubai

Nice

[silent oak]

I want an opinion from a more mechanically inclined individual. What’s the difference between a scat pack and a hellcat? I know basic differences like no super charger and yes super charger but anything to warrant a higher price tag?

[dire shard]

i think you can get a scat in a manual

that's kind of it

[silent oak]

You can get a manual hellcat

But I do like the appeal of a loud and fucking obviously obnoxious car

[distant vine]

This thing sucks go back to distributor

[naive thorn]

I'm already cooked

[mental lion]

Dubai is crazy. Millions for a single digit plates

[sage roost]

The engine

thats it

other than that they're basically the same car

[kind osprey]

The scatpack has a bigger engine that is naturally aspirated, and the hellcat has a slightly smaller engine with a big supercharger slapped on it

My guess is the build and interior quality is fairly identical

[fleet owl]

Yeah same here tbf

Some royalty own plates like that too so literally priceless

Or the number 1, worth more than a cushy mansion, and people still pay it for a number plate

[kind osprey]

Yea single digit plates are at minimum mid 7 figures

It's crazy

The US doesn't have that plate culture but we do have low digit plates that are usually for members of local government and stuff

My friends dad has a two digit license plate and it's crazy to see

[craggy drum]

Yeah it is my mom had a scat and cousin had a hellcat

only difference was in the engine bay and the branding on the seats etc

and the hood scoop

[distant vine]

Was the suspension the same

Maybe some reinforcements on the body or something to handle the acceleration force

[distant vine]

Have you considered buying the cheapest one possible with the biggest v8 and using the rest of the cash for a solid axle conversion

[kind osprey]

Wha?

[hollow dragon]

~poke~

[silent oak]

Perhaps.. I love to spend money!

[steady cove]

Opinions on the new bmw design

Im sure i dont even need to specify it

[distant vine]

If you don't spend/invest it inflation will take care of it for you

[kind osprey]

Yea I wanna claw my eyes out when I see people who hoard massive amounts of money in shitty savings account collecting 0.0001% interest

Like bruh I could've doubled that by now

[devout mica]

This afternoons job and damn this is beautiful

[static gale]

I didn't realise who you were until this post 😭

[devout mica]

Omg I love this truck so much

[dawn drift]

Nice color 🔥

[silent oak]

i have an RT is going for an scat more cost effective then a hellcat?

i like the hellcat but i see the millege and i see my wallet crying

[distant vine]

It really depends

Do you want to race it or daily drive it

[silent oak]

daily

[silent oak]

daily but i still find the concept of a loud fun car as daily lol

[distant vine]

Get the scat pack you don't need a hellcat

[distant vine]

It's still loud and it doesn't have a supercharger so it'll probably get better mileage and less wear

And I suppose parts cost less

[silent oak]

its significantly cheaper

[fresh thicket]

I could only dream of having a hellcat in the uk with these insurance prices

[silent oak]

how much are the gas prices in the UK

[mental lion]

People buy them just to flex who’s richer, alot of people drive luxury vehicles there only way to tell who’s richer is by the plates

Or there’s some money laundering behind it

[severe tangle]

Classic example is a 2 digit plate on a Range Rover in Dubai, upgrading to a rolls would be chump change and I don’t get it, range rovers are just average in terms of luxury

[nova estuary]

Range Rovers are a great mix of capability and luxury (When leased or in warranty. If you're lucky)

[jagged sentinel]

And when they're working

[nova estuary]

Doug Demuros Carmax bumper to bumper warranty is one of my favorite things still. Literally made Carmax redo the whole warranty program

I forget how many 10s of thousands he got in repairs on his range rover for the $4k he paid for the warranty

[jagged sentinel]

Bumper to bumper warranties are great, especially when they're lifetime

[distant vine]

They're so advanced they tend to make themselves lighter in difficult situations for better mpg

[distant vine]

Maybe they plan on driving on the desert

[sage roost]

Macaroni

[naive thorn]

Mamma mia

[dawn drift]

Mozzarella

[mental lion]

The guy who owns it propably have a single digit one on his rolls royce

[devout mica]

This afternoons job 🙂

[silent oak]

Have you folks seen the panther pink demon 170? One off factory panther pink jail break demon 170.

Dodge had a limited run of 40 colors with one car in each factory color

[obtuse urchin]

Now i have and i’m in love with it

[silent oak]

Too bad you can’t get one factory since limited to 1 of 1

The 40 colors are a mix of heritage colors and modern

[night steeple]

[devout mica]

I worked on this last year

[silent oak]

Fucking hot..

I love that purple

Is it factory painted purple?

[devout mica]

Ya it was a sweet ride but so powerful it was scary to drive

[silent oak]

I want a scat pack or demon irl

A demon with manual would be ripper

I swear 100k+ for a demon is crazy but I’d pay for it if I had money to finance it

[dire shard]

i just forgot about the existence of this swap and here you go posting it again

fuck you, i'm sending this

[static gale]

hyundai blue

[swift olive]

toyota 86

[jagged sentinel]

[jagged sentinel]

So... It's a 488 GTS with Pista body parts? Pretty sick tbh

[silent oak]

They only made 1 factory painted model of it

[swift olive]

My friend's car, 360+ HP stage 2

It's BRZ tho

[dire shard]

i like the brz more, anyway

[swift olive]

Lovely car

[dire shard]

supercharged?

[swift olive]

Manual gear

[swift olive]

Now we are working on that project, it has big Turbo rn

[dire shard]

get him some of these 😂 the empty hole there

i saw these on a black car and it looked really good

[swift olive]

yea those are old pics

[willow barn]

it looks like backing up

[jagged sentinel]

I know this is a modified/edited Prius

That being said

Toyota kinda cooked with the current gen Prius

It actually looks...good, great, even

[polar briar]

fire

[silent oak]

Still wouldn’t be seen in a Prius tho

[night steeple]

toyota made the prius look so good honda put it into the integra

[dawn drift]

There is some storage place

[devout mica]

It's electric so thats just odd lol but fuck is it a nice truck and to put PPF looks difficult but we will see

[static gale]

but can i adjust the climate control without going into a nested menu?

[sage roost]

(Yes)

The buttons at the bottom of the screen are all for the HVAC

[onyx rivet]

gloss grey derivative

[silent oak]

looks like corolla grey lol

no wonder i stay far away from corollas

[sage roost]

Corollas come in nardo?

[silent oak]

They come in disgusting dusty white which turns into grey

[devout mica]

When customers do thier own work 💀

[dawn drift]

Eww.. but I would test drive that

[obtuse urchin]

Car cleaning?

[devout mica]

I prepped it for a polish which my apprentice did I was in the mountains

[obtuse urchin]

With cars like that it sounds like an awesome job

With any car tbf i love car washing

[kind osprey]

Is that forged fckn carbon on a CAMARO

Never thought I'd see the day

[devout mica]

It's horrid and I refused to work on that unit I just couldnt

[jagged sentinel]

Under this lighting it almost looks like wood

[glacial plank]

forged carbon is cringe

[jagged sentinel]

It's a great material, it's just ugly

[kind osprey]

^

[glacial plank]

overhyped

its not any stronger

[mild flax]

wow

[kind osprey]

It definitely has different tension properties

Overall I think it is stronger in some use cases, manufacturers wouldn't use it otherwise

It looks hideous

[wide wharf]

@left sapphire i had an old 740l volvo for 3 years

that thing’s indestructible

and old asf

was planning to buy xc90 but need to get my money up

[kind osprey]

I would love a m340i or a type r/s but that wod be one hell of a car payment

Fun cars aren't cheap

[left sapphire]

Volvo is Volvo

[kind osprey]

I could get a Civic si and deal with the lower power and rev hang since it's actually decently priced

[left sapphire]

My next car will either be a Toyota Camry or a Volvo S90

[kind osprey]

That's a big variation

Unless the Vovle is used

[left sapphire]

Ain’t buying new new 😭

Not that rich ☠️

[kind osprey]

A used s90 probably depreciates well enough by 3-5 years to be as much as a loaded new Camry

[left sapphire]

That’s exactly why I’m stuck between those 2

[kind osprey]

If the volvo has normal mileage itll be like 30,000-50,000 so you'll still have a lot of life left

[left sapphire]

Both are my favorite cars, Volvo is Volvo for me, but I can afford a new Toyota Camry and being the first owner of it

[stuck owl]

@chilly musk, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps4｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino: #ps4｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps4｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps4｜other-lfg

Requested by: @kind osprey

[left sapphire]

I was never the first owner of any car 😭

[kind osprey]

I never owned a new car, I may in the future but dealers suck

The less I gotta deal with them the better

I bought my first car in a parking spot over an hour of chatting lmao

[left sapphire]

So fucking true, specially they want to sell you their insurance with a random of more BS

[glacial plank]

can a car stereo lock itself if i remove power from it

its connected to the cars ecu too

i need to see if i need adapters for my new car radio

[left sapphire]

My first car was a Golf MK3 from my father, I saved up for a used Volvo V40 2.0 and it’s the car I have until today

[kind osprey]

I wanted an s60r from the early 2000's when I was looking for a car but they shot up overnight

They were $5000 cars but good ones are $18,000 now

Shit sucks I wish we gatekept cool cars if this is what was gonna happen to the used market

[left sapphire]

Are from USA?

[kind osprey]

Yea

[left sapphire]

European cars gets expensive there

Idk why it happens

I see you guys buying BMW 335I for the price of a 535I here in Europe 😭

[kind osprey]

UK has some of the cheapest used cars I've ever seen

Probably because of insurance and the fact nobody wants a right hand drive outside of the country

[left sapphire]

It’s exactly why, that happens everywhere unless it’s country where you drive on the right side

Some people sometimes here buy UK cars and turn everything to the left side and make them drift cars or race cars

Because it gets super cheap like that

[jagged sentinel]

As epic said, manufacturers wouldn't use it if there were no objective benefits over conventional carbon fiber

[jagged sentinel]

From some basic research that I've done, forged carbon's main benefit is much higher multi-directional stress tolerance due to how it's made in comparison with conventional CF. From this and some other prior research, I believe it is more effective than conventional CF when being used to make Smaller and more highly stressed components like wings, diffusers, splitters and such, while conventional would be put to better use on bigger things like body panels. Research still on-going. It's a rabbit hole.

Carbon fiber is already an exceptionally good material for aero bits to begin with so

[glacial plank]

you know what forged carbon is right ?

[kind osprey]

The name seems to describe it I assume

[jagged sentinel]

...yeah?

I think the name speaks for itself a bit, no?

Engineers aren't poets

[ionic relic]

you can get a 2020 on around 50k miles for under 13000

[mental lion]

Aint gonna happen

[mental lion]

Naah

[ionic relic]

i was looking yesterday

one with 21k for 13779

at HPL

[mental lion]

Thats a good deal tbh

But i dont think itll go lower than this

[ionic relic]

I’d be surprised if it did go lower

Cause 30k in 5 years is hilarious

Unfortunately new volvos are just shit reliability wise

[fresh thicket]

My dad had an old v50 a while ago

It was terrible

Engine wise mechanically it was good

Gearbox was awful

And the electrics were awful

Had a mind of their own

[mental lion]

Nvm bro

I thought yoi said 130k for 50k miles sf90

[ionic relic]

What 😭

[mental lion]

$130k for 50k miles sf90. Thats what i understood

Idk much about volvos tbh

They’re pretty safe

[ionic relic]

I wonder if any sf90s are on that mileage yet

[silent oak]

There safe.. but at the cost of every other parts reliability

[night steeple]

🇸🇪

I completed my pilgrimage today

[silent oak]

I should do my pilgrimage to the local gas station in my car lol

[opal forum]

Where are the meatballs?

And surstromming?

[night steeple]

meatballs not included

[opal forum]

[mental lion]

Theyre not that unreliable

[onyx rivet]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DGo6FzhsPvw/

[sage roost]

Florida man crashes into dealership

[kind osprey]

What isn't

They literally are

[kind osprey]

This makes complete sense. He wasn't able to get the car so in order to build his credit he caused $60,000 in damages so he can pay them off for his credit score

He is so big brained that we mere mortals can't comprehend the strategy

[silent oak]

Eh I don’t like euro cars maybe for an exception so I’m biased, but I hate working on Volvos that are brought into the shop.

[dire shard]

alternative universe omar

[dire shard]

i hear the newer cars have issues

unsurprising: volvo loads them with electronics, and then for silly things like the T8 they supercharge, turbocharge, and do hybrid the same car
they're putting everything into one car lol

my 2.4i c30 has been going with barely any issues for nearly 20 years, meanwhile

biggest issue was the steering lock which made it so you couldn't start the car... once again, an electronics issue that volvo thankfully ditched the next model year

otherwise no mechanical or regular reliability problems

older cars do be built different

[dawn drift]

What is the model year?

[dire shard]

first my

2007

[main cosmos]

Yeah all new cars suck

[dawn drift]

Sounds good. I'm trying to stay in cars of 1990-2005. The best one I had was 1991 Opel Vectra, no abs, no tc, no airbags.

[main cosmos]

Now that's just dangerous

[dawn drift]

Yeah, once I slided past 4 cars in winter when people did fast braking on a highway

[main cosmos]

Abs is truly a life savior

Along with traction control but

New cars chassis is a lot safer

[dawn drift]

Chassis is stronger and weights more

[silent oak]

I want a dodge 1990s viper no ABS

[main cosmos]

U need a lot of skills to drive that

And probably luck

[mental lion]

There’s a bit of miscommunication on my end🤗

[silent oak]

I have alot of dumb luck lol

I want a car that wants to kill me

At any moment

[dawn drift]

Thats the reason I'm not buying a motorcycle

[silent oak]

That’s why I want one

I want a hayabusa..

Atleast I’ll be front page news for a bit

[dawn drift]

What a goal 😅

[silent oak]

Same reason why I want a dodge demon 170

It’s the prestige of owning such a expensive and limited vehicle and daily driving the bitch

It’s ment to be driven not be a garage dust collector

[dawn drift]

Like all cars. Feels good to see old muscle cars driven in winter.

[silent oak]

But the demon 170 I wanted was a 1 of 1

Factory painted adds value

And it was a jail break model too

[supple island]

yes

[jagged sentinel]

Don't you live in the American Midwest

[silent oak]

That’s correct

[jagged sentinel]

I don't think I need to explain how daily driving a RWD car with semi slicks in the Midwest may not be the best idea

There are worse ideas though

[silent oak]

Yeah there are crazy’s who drive rust buckets in the Midwest lol

[jagged sentinel]

I mean shit you sign a contract that states that any incident that happens when driving it in the rain is on you because you don't fucking drive semi slicks in the rain

When you buy the car

[jagged sentinel]

Hey that's me

Used to be anyway

[silent oak]

Ask that to the hellcat drivers who crash into trees

After loosing traction in rainy conditions

[jagged sentinel]

Ask that to V6 or Ecoboost mustang "former" mustang owners who do that in the dry

If even the basic bitch V6 NPC mustang drivers can manage it in perfect conditions, it's actually impressive

[silent oak]

They run into crowds.

[jagged sentinel]

And curbs and telephone poles and such

[silent oak]

Not trees

Telephone poles are vipers turf

[jagged sentinel]

Touché

And curbs are Wrangler territory, my mistake

[silent oak]

No that’s slammed fucking civics

Where you can’t even reach a parking lot without destroying your front bumper

[jagged sentinel]

Slammed shitbox civics will find a way to break on a perfectly flat road

[silent oak]

Those aggressive jeeps with the shit front end

They just. Never go off road

[jagged sentinel]

Oh my God I HATE that specific grille

I know you know the type I'm talking about

[silent oak]

Yes. I see them a lot

[tribal lichen]

---

(____/)

Well shit my drawing didn't work

[kind osprey]

If you want a daily driver just get a hellcat red eye

The demons are way too purpose built and their tires aren't meant for normal driving

It's like dailying a gt3rs, people don't realize that it is bumpy af and not good for regular road use they were probably better off getting a gt3 or a gts

If you go to drag races and plan to cage the thing that's different but demons are just in an odd spot, they are nowhere near as useable as regular hellcats

[sage roost]

Just get a Camaro

ez

Ss 1LE specifically

[hybrid charm]

Where true men cried

[silent oak]

I’m financially irresponsible so don’t enable me!

I would daily a hellcat red eye

[sage roost]

Make sure you put theft protection measures on it

[kind osprey]

It wouldn't be a good daily either cause of the mpg's alone lol, but if you to get a top trim challenger then the widebody red eye unlock jailbreak whatever tf it's called is the way to go

Since that has 808

The demon has 840, so it's a miniscule difference

Demon has a lower top speed as well but I wouldn't wanna go 198mph in a challenger ngl

[silent oak]

I will

[silent oak]

The 170 has 1000 hp

[silent oak]

I daily a challenger rt in the Midwest

I’m not of sound mind lol

[errant matrix]

anyone knows when c6 gonna be released?

[loud spade]

Damn

Why have I never seen this before

[jagged sentinel]

The what now

[kind osprey]

2005

[jagged sentinel]

[dire shard]

👴 when they release the c6 zr1

[kind osprey]

Teacher: The test won't be that hard
The test: Find the rx7

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

[static gale]

found it

[kind osprey]

https://www.nicholasmee.co.uk/aston-martin-car-sales/19305013-aston-martin-v8-super-cygnet/

the one of one v8 Cygnet is getting sold and the owner put 2900 miles on it

[sage roost]

430hp and probably the weight of a feather

1375kg

[static gale]

just throw some big wangs on it and you got a hillclimb monster

[sage roost]

Ok not really

[potent hatch]

r u guys familar with folding bikes

brompton folding bikes in particalr

[winged slate]

Need a chauffeur

[jagged sentinel]

Why ask here

[winged slate]

It says transportation

[jagged sentinel]

So?

[winged slate]

Your point…

[winged slate]

Get off my meat sir🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

So a funny story I’d love to share with my history with mopar

[dire shard]

mhm

[silent oak]

In Arizona an old buddy of mine took a risk buying a police recovery auctions challenger hellcat. And it worked well, most was cosmetic / little internal damage

[onyx rivet]

https://fixupx.com/BBC_TopGear/status/1897361530179739772

[obtuse urchin]

Eye watering

[static gale]

We have the 6x6 G-Wagen at home:

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E47goEzdqRE

[silent oak]

looks like the legally distinct merc g wagom 6x6 lol

[dire shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710345811988578348/1347390515074826331/FB_IMG_1741313202807.jpg?ex=67cba6b4&is=67ca5534&hm=0ec5e12ee1bd463b533bc9fe45f3731399aab76d248cc29f966eefcc653a01f8&

otacon, there's a chinese electric vehicle manufacturer using my franchise name

[kind osprey]

$70,000 for a compact economy car

Gee I wonder why ev's like this don't sell well

The base trim that looks like ass is $50,000 (ik the N is the top trim)

[storm gate]

N trim on an EV is like trying to swim 5mph up a 25mph stream...

[mental lion]

Evs in general dont sell well

And lose half their price just by sitting there

I think you can get a base audi etron for the same price which is better in every aspect

[dire shard]

the price is ridiculous, for sure

the market this kind of enthusiast car should be aimed towards has a budget probably about half the price

but this is the one ev you shouldn't sleep on

this is not really comparable to an etron or taycan, nor really comaprable to regular economy evs
as far as the car goes, it's more akin to an older generation ek civic type r or something like that - it's a freaking toy of a car

it's the first commercially available enthusiast electric vehicle south of 200k that isn't boring

clowning on it is ignoring the enormous things that hyundai have done to bring brilliant cars back like the genesis g70 and kia stinger, like the elantra N
if electric cars are really the future, you better fucking hope they go the way of the ioniq 5 N

[dire shard]

the base ioniq 5 starts about 58k cad (55k for the standard range, but we're comparing long range version, since tesla seems to have "stopped" selling their standard range cars) which is around where its competitor, the model 3 and Y also starts at, at 61k
for my purposes, the awd ioniq 5 starts at 60k cad while the cheapest awd model 3 and model Y you can get are 68k

i'm not happy about the price of either, prices this high is not how you get people into electric cars... BYD has the right idea, selling the seagull for the equivalent of 10k
BUT, because that's not an option, if you gave me the choice between the base model ioniq 5 and literally anything tesla makes regardless of price including their higher end offerings like the X and roadster, i'd go for the ioniq 5 for the simple fact that it has good build quality and doesn't look like a frog

[dire shard]

surprising opinion, most people love how the ioniq 5 looks
the boxy proportions provide more interior space while also reminiscing of boxy cars from like the 70s-80s, the use of square elements for things like the drls and the dot matrix taillights are a nice take on retro modern design which i'm typically not a fan of

someone like my dad, who is a car enthusiast but loves older boxy 70s-80s cars since he grew up with those, really loves the boxy proportions om the ioniq 5
younger car enthusiasts grew up with 2000s curved and blobby car designs and might not appreciate the same design influence, but younger enthusiasts aren't the ones with the money right now, so

[kind osprey]

The base trim objectively looks like ass

Like a legitimate afterthought

Most of the panels are non painted plastic shit you get at the dollar store

I wouldn't be surprised if it had hub caps

The regular ones are decent looking

[dire shard]

idk kinda just looks like the same car but with plastic trim on it

https://www.hyundaicanada.com/en/showroom/2024/ioniq-5/specs

does it look worse? yeah, plastic trim is stupid
but it still looks like an ioniq 5 in the end, which is a good looking car by popular consensus
you know what objectively looks bad? modern subaru design, even if you remove the plastic trim the cars inherently look stupid

[mental lion]

The 80s is the era that I wouldn’t want my car to look like

Gotta be the worst era in terms of design

[dire shard]

least surprising take i've heard from you

think most people now don't like those cars

[mental lion]

Nah seriously not that i hate old cars but cars back then were awfully built

[dire shard]

the portion of people who like cars like the design of the ae86, fc3s, 944, foxbody mustangs, is very niche among young people

[dire shard]

it's the 1980s, considering what happened during that time period it should not be surprising why

[mental lion]

I just hate the amount of plastic and how cheap the car look in general

[dire shard]

you're young, congratulations 👏

[mental lion]

But i do love 60 and 70s cars

[ember relic]

they're really famous in where I live

[ember relic]

my question to anyone buying an EV just to save their fuel is if you can afford one which costs like 70-80 grand why do you need to save the fuel? their batteries will need replacing before they'll even cover half of the price you paid for it.
Secondly, if you're buying an EV to save the environment you're just brainwashed into thinking that EVs are good for the environment, it produces more pollution for their battery's production than a petrol car
They don't even have any good resale value, so buying an EV is just stupid

[dire shard]

what if i'm buying an ev because i can get a rebate for 4k off msrp, consumption tax exemption, and get charge for cents in a city where electricity is cheap rather than gas which costs 2 dollars per liter 😎

[mental lion]

I dont mind “some” evs

but spending 70k on a fucking hyundai is insane

[kind osprey]

Nobody buys a luxury ev to save on fuel costs

People buy ev's only because they have become decent enough to where they can compete in the market with regular gas cars