Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms

[cunning shell]

If there not well…things are gonna get bumpy very fast

I see I’ve been out voted

[hidden scaffold]

Atlas can handle those fighters for now until Victorium arrives

[cunning shell]

Yeah

And it be easier for us to stay mobile than ride in a freighter but that’s there opinions

[hidden scaffold]

Maybe V isn't even needed and can block the route towards Elim

[cunning shell]

When’s atlas arriving in the lussan gate

[limber cape]

next round.

[cunning shell]

Copy

[limber cape]

so basically right as fluffle leaves, we'll arrive

[cunning shell]

Your planning on fighting a battlecruiser

[limber cape]

I mean, not much choice. Its case black.

we've discussed doing a boarding action, but i think we're opting to not do that so Victorum's guns can bring the pain the following round.

[hidden scaffold]

9 hits will be hard to crack

[cunning shell]

Not when you have a lot of dakka

[limber cape]

Right now the (naive) hope is that the BC will turn to fire on Fluffle, and then we'll catch them out of position, and we haul ass towards the transit hex as far as we can (we're just shy). TF1 will then arrive, so if the BC stays on us, it'll be wide open to get swiss cheese'd by TF1s many many MBCs.

I would advise not self deploying on this coming turn (orders wednesday), but doing so on the next one would probably be fine for yall, since you'd arrive w/ Victorum, and they are gonna sweep it out.

[cunning shell]

I see that’s some helpful information thank you for sharing

[limber cape]

not that waiting is a bad idea necessarily, but you may be waiting longer. Fluffle and Storm seem to think that they're gonna take control of the spaceport pretty easily. i'm a little more cynical. its a case black. all of our plans were built around case red, so i wouldn't be surprised in the least if there is some fighting over the spaceport before ARMCO takes control of it. we'll see

[cunning shell]

Hopefully

[cunning shell]

I’m logging off if there’s anything you need from me feel free to ping me

[grand sun]

@ebon river and @chilly iris, here's the sheet I was talking about. (I don't have it locked...so anyone can access it...but I'm trusting the 212th can maintain the sheet's integrity.

just for fun, this is how the tracker looked like at the end of Titan.

[kindred eagle]

[grand sun]

😜 just a TCO tool for tracking order receipts and processing

[grand sun]

Looks like we'll be sticking with the main convoy. Whether we're loaded in the auto-freighter or under our own power is going to be the question for T3. We can wait and see what intel we get from T2's developments tho.

[somber apex]

this is really neato too

[grand sun]

😅 I'm not the most creative, but I got the colors (matching the pie chart) and included useful information

[grand sun]

Thanks! I'm visual, so having this tab where I can visualize the slots and what's in them

[somber apex]

same
those colours make my brain chemicals very happy

[chilly iris]

And then we can use those colors for when they’re loaded into a transport on the other tab

Make all the brain chemicals happy

[grand sun]

I wanted to make anything that empty be red as well as if there aren't full matches of the cargo that take multiple slots...but that's a later issue. I need to get either PS or TTS prepped so I've got everything in place for orders other than the map

[grand sun]

😍 Looks like the icons in Captain's TTS matches the icon packs he shared.

[flat swift]

Hot map. very nice

[plucky river]

Those are the HMGs. The Laser is the one with the red.
Shack had them labeled backwards.

[grand sun]

Captain's newest TTS workshop item has "Training Grounds" map loaded in, then I brought in the supply, fortification, and supply package icons from my Tornado map over with a riser tool. VTOLs are height 1 while HATs and Fighters are height 2 just to give some extra effect to it.

[grand sun]

Now that you say that, I do remember that being a thing. lol

[plucky river]

I remeber cause I told Dres he was wrong. But Dres corrected me so I went and fixed my stuff

[grand sun]

There's a better one

😅 I even renamed the weapons and put the left actually on the left

[grand sun]

This is much better than the other lineup I posted. This one has our logo

[kindred eagle]

This is in tabletop simulator?

[grand sun]

Yeah

Captain used it + PS in the Titan Campaign, so I got used to it with the ease of him releasing updates. I could use pure PS this time, but that'd mean learning a new method rather than using what I'm more used to.

Everyone has their own preferences tho.

[kindred eagle]

Its looks pretty good

[grand sun]

I really like it and it makes me feel more like I'm in the universe...but I'll admit I get more into it when I can get a non-topdown view

Going mobile and I'll be mobile (and on kid duty) most of tomorrow too. Ping me if there's something I need to see.

[grand sun]

I was multitasking…I just realized I never said “thank you” to this message!

Thanks Nalla. Wanted to see what the 212th would look like in a simple formation. Hoover will be delivering the LS for Flying Shovel’s airfield and Sumer will be delivering a bunker to protect the airfield. So I grabbed some icons to represent those.

[gusty aurora]

for the hats I feel like the wing fleet name "bevy, aviary or stork"
also thank you autodave for the visual

[chilly iris]

Yeah, it's great that the three of us are all birds lol

[gusty aurora]

just make sure the nests are up to snuff alright

[grand sun]

Welcome! Seeing it always gets me more into the campaign.

[cunning shell]

I’m back

How’s everything going

Also love the map

[cunning shell]

So what was the vote

[grand sun]

Definitely not exiting this round, and likely using the auto-freighters to get to Elim.

Fortunately I think Fluffle and Storm are planning to push through toward the planet. If the space port is lost, the auto-freighters won’t be able to land in Elim.

Unfortunately, I think we’ll have decide how we’re exiting the gate before we know if the spaceport is still held…unless we get word back from specs this round.

[cunning shell]

I don’t think we’ll be hearing from them for a while

Humor me for a minute

We have 2 uncounted people in the invasion and last we knew the VTOL went to the station and our team was on the ground

Now would shack make it our mission to extraction side mission on top of everything else

Also

The unknown equipment

That’s all I have to say

[grand sun]

What about extraction tho? I got confused.

[cunning shell]

I feel like our spec ops ground team is captured

[grand sun]

Ah! I mean…maybe…but I think KIA would be more likely than captured.

[flat swift]

I dont think our goal is extraction, it's survive to help arrives

[cunning shell]

Maybe

[grand sun]

It did say their pay would be sent to their company if they died on the mission.

[cunning shell]

Copy

[grand sun]

That said, all I actually know is we didn’t get anything from them and they should’ve been included last round.

[cunning shell]

Could be they missed the time to place orders

[flat swift]

Shack did say the communications was SWAMPED with distress signals so, its possible it was just lost in the garble

[grand sun]

I agree. We’re the force whose job is to make sure there’s enough for the next force to save.

[cunning shell]

This is true

[grand sun]

That’s best case scenario I think

[cunning shell]

I’m going to keep looking at the map

[grand sun]

What else can we do? Lol

[cunning shell]

Make RP posts

Discussed plans

Options

Yes nalla I read your very sad but sweet post

[cunning shell]

Dang

[grand sun]

It was close. New intel could prompt a new poll.

[cunning shell]

Lies

[grand sun]

😜 nope! Not lies…I’m typically careful enough with my wording to prevent that.

[cunning shell]

False truths

Anyway that’s probably not gonna happen till turn 3 right

[grand sun]

T3 is TF1 and the Auto-freighters

Tomorrow player orders are due for T2. Sunday would be player orders due for T3…but if we’re on auto-freighters, then idk that we really need orders for another 2-3 rounds (if they’re able to move strat layer rather than getting bogged down with tac maps) after that.

[plucky river]

Just an idea. If you self deployed early. You could land mechs on the Exodia. They’d be able to attack via the external mech door

[cunning shell]

Ooooo

[grand sun]

Exodia in y’all’s TF?

[plucky river]

Yeah

The PEC Exodia

Not deployed early but self deployed

[cunning shell]

But it be fun

[grand sun]

I’ll put a poll together Thursday or Friday. In time for orders, but not so early that it’s lost.

• deploy via Auto-freighter
• self-deploy for speed
• self-deploy to fight (LMs on Exodia, fighters…space)

[cunning shell]

Okay

Yeah

[grand sun]

I will say tho, current arrangement we can only have 1 LM being hauled via HVTOL. The other 2 would be in HAT(s)

[plucky river]

If you deploy onto the Exodia they’d need to be in HATs

[cunning shell]

🤔 can you deploy your bunker Dave

[plucky river]

Deploys bunker in space

[grand sun]

😜 oh I’m taking my bunker to the airfield. I’ve already locked that intent down. Lol

I was considering having Hoover swipe a LS from Atlas on our way to Elim so they had more freedom. But we’ll see. Plenty of time to try to learn more and plan better.

[cunning shell]

Just pick it up after we’re done

[grand sun]

😜 we’ll see. It’s obviously not really up to me regardless.

[cunning shell]

Buzz kill

[grand sun]

As I said, I’ll bring it up after we get the next round of intel prolly. It was 4-6 of self-deploy T3 vs Auto-freighter when we were determining if we deploy T2 to assist Atlas or hold for T3.

[cunning shell]

I just like the idea of fighting a orbital in space

[limber cape]

Yeah, those are the guys every other mech jockey will be watching. those guys are riding the lightning.

[cunning shell]

Woah I just want to say that I was part of the group that killed the first orbital with ground units

[cunning shell]

Who’s going to be our primary areas to deliver supplies

I know shovels

[hidden scaffold]

Probably Venator and Redwall

[cunning shell]

Okay I’ll see what they might want for shipment

[onyx jackal]

Hey, i wanted to ask as a member of BG phalanx, do you guys offer strategic trasportation? We are a QRF (Quality Response Force™️) but we are lacking in speed, due to all the infantry we managed to gather. Rushing the infantry should help with the tac-mobility, but the strategic redeployment might make issues.

[cunning shell]

Hmmm how many infantry

And where

[onyx jackal]

We dont know where yet, part of being qrf. We have some IFV and LV (plus one logi so shoukd be good for supplies), but i think like 9 inf plus 2 medics are without a ride. Mostly wanted to know if it might be an option for future planning.

Alltogether we are 29 units, vehicles, light mechs and infantry, no air.

[cunning shell]

@grand sun talk him I think it’s doable but what do you think

Currently our mission is to help Shovels and then begin resupply operations but if Dave is up I’m sure he’ll help

[onyx jackal]

Yeah, its not an acute need anyway since we wont be the first in line. Might be helpful if we are needed to plug a gap somewhere in a hurry though.

So id like to know if you have the capacity for it if it is needed.

[cunning shell]

We might have the capacity for the infantry but that’s up to everyone here

[grand sun]

Strategic and emergency transportation isn’t out of the question, it’s just situational.

62FS is a lot though.

[onyx jackal]

That seems smart, we don’t know how things will develop after all. We will see where we end up. Just wanted to ask, so we know if it might be an option. May your flight be stable and dust-mother keep your operation safe.

[grand sun]

If we’re able to assist, we’d be happy to. (Tho really I’m not the boss)

[cunning shell]

writes down the amount of people 📝 mhm safe travels friend

Gotta always add that last bit I’m not the boss

[grand sun]

lol, gotta make sure when I make comments that could sound like me committing the BG to something outside of a vote.

[cunning shell]

True but to be honest I only pinged you because I didn’t know if we could do it

I’m certain it’s possible but that means we’re doing the ground paths not airway

[grand sun]

That high amount of FS, even if we had empty HATs.

I think it’s max 30FS to a HAT tho if the HAT only took FS.

So numbers wise we could transport them if they started at an airfield and we left most of our slots empty for their INF.

[topaz sun]

Hello do you all have a unit roster?

[plucky river]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UVWvjkGzI9-J2y_ngahp3tF4NBlBhpk5PwpEnq4ZFb8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[topaz sun]

Cool thanks

[grand sun]

Thanks! On kid duty today so I’m limited on how much attention I can give to discord.

[deep narwhal]

Unknown condition.

[versed locust]

have we decided how we're going to distribute the mechs in the HATs? on the sheet it says I'm carrying 2 and Puffin is carrying one, is that just defaulted or is that how it will be?

[grand sun]

Ignore that. lol, I just threw them in the first 2 HATs I had on the list so I could visualize what was possible.

We will need to figure that out for anything rounds that we’re loading them up for…but what’s on the sheet is just me seeing what it’d look like space wise

[versed locust]

Honestly I’m fine with carrying 2 mechs and a small supply, and if anything was going to ask if that’s what we wanted to do as a group, but I was just kinda confused when it was already filled out XD

[plucky river]

You could have 5 small supply

[versed locust]

I meant to imply that with “a small supply” as just “using the last slot for small supply”. MB

Or actually, are we helping another battle group land/deploy first thing? Because if so I can take 2 of our mechs and one of their infantry

[plucky river]

My bad

[grand sun]

Unknown. I don’t think we’re helping to deploy, but we might help to transport after deployment.

[grand sun]

😅 I honestly didn’t think anyone would look at that tab, so I didn’t bother resetting it when I got off yesterday.

[versed locust]

all good. I just kinda looked at it because I haven’t been on in a while and wanted a quick refresher/update on our roster

[grand sun]

Anyone can obviously and I didn’t lock it either. But I was just playing around with different load outs yesterday.

I did update the roster a bit too so limited items, health, and fighters armed can be easily seen.

But I wanted a designated space to be able to see cargo too.

[versed locust]

Wait, do we have a place to post orders?

[grand sun]

Not yet. We were recognized after Captain made the order channels. @violet sparrow offered to make us one if it came to it after I mentioned it in TCO comms prior to T1. Since we voted not to deploy T2 either, I left it be. I’ll petition for one tomorrow so we have a channel ahead of T3 in case we self-deploy or want to start RP orders of us outside of the gate in the freighters. 😜 which I imagine could be fun since in that scenario we’d be a fast largely aerospace BG with our aerospace stowed (and us being our 1-3FS crew) on a slow freighter.

[cursive rapids]

Hey apologies for the absence been slammed with irl

where we at? what'd I miss?

[hidden scaffold]

First two groups made it to Lussan Gate and next is Atlad while the rest continues

[cursive rapids]

sweet

[grand sun]

We voted to wait to deploy till T3

[cursive rapids]

Yep so it seems like I didnt miss much haha

[grand sun]

lol, lots tossed around, but nothing you really missed.

[cunning shell]

I have returned

I see we’ve discussed what’s happening

Shouldn’t turn 2 mid rounds be posted in a little bit

[flat swift]

The maps are due from tac-coms tomorrow afternoon.

[cunning shell]

Ok

This will be a interesting campaign

[cunning shell]

Hello who’s ever here

[dapper quartz]

🤷 I'm sometimes here

[onyx jackal]

Yeah, the epsilon (europe) shift of armco is kind of silent for the most part.

[cunning shell]

XD i look away for 5 minutes

Weird question why do fighters not have 1 armor anymore

[plucky river]

Because they have evasive

Really the e only thing that can attack them are d4s

[grand sun]

And to make us VTOLs feel a little better about ourselves.

[cunning shell]

Ok

[grand sun]

Oh right, I wasn’t supposed to say part outloud. 😜

[cunning shell]

So last night I got bored

And doing some math I think it’s 92 FS we can carry

Why is this important well I just felt bad for the phalanx BG

So I was curious if we could theoretically transport that much of people turns out we could

Anyway how are you doing today

[grand sun]

playtime...

[cunning shell]

Okay but have you accounted for 4 medics and 1 engineer

Never the less thanks for sharing your information

[grand sun]

Calc is only doing FS. Doesn't care what the unit type is

[cunning shell]

Okay

[grand sun]

😜 We'd have to figure out how to maximize that part

VTOLs dropdown has each count for FS and SS. But the HATs are just slot based fills as far as my sheet is concerned

[cunning shell]

I see I looked at the rules and the HATs slots get filled when 6 FS are there so it’s 6FS= 1 slot

[grand sun]

I guess I could add more to the HAT dropdowns too.

[grand sun]

yeah. So 4 medics and 1 engineer = 4 slots

[cunning shell]

Mhm but phalanx does have a logi truck so minus 3 medics

Should be enough room for the transportation

[grand sun]

We'll see. haha

It's situational

[cunning shell]

Yup

Sorry I just thought this be interesting sharing

[grand sun]

for sure. Good to know use cases where we could assist

[cunning shell]

Okay I’m going to bed ping me if anything happens

[grand sun]

Getting back in the swing of TTS. (The map is a placeholder, but I wanted to get used to changing the map)

[versed locust]

It’s a little off putting to see the 2d map at an angle like in the second image. It makes it seem stretched almost

[grand sun]

yeah...I did that one first actually and wasn't in love with it...especially with 2d icons

the 1st isn't directly overhead, so you get shadows and still a sense of aerospace not being the same level as the LMs

Made a tray for myself too...just missing some arrows and a few other helpful bits that I forgot to grab from my C3 maps.

[versed locust]

Yeah I will say though that the first image looks amazing with the lighting and shadows

[grand sun]

Real maps will have arrows, order type indicators, and callsigns

[grand sun]

Again...this poll has no strategic relevance except to give an easy gauge of who's watching so I know if pings will be needed when it's our turn to exit the gate.

[keen vault]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[dapper quartz]

Hm

But it's not a good roll-call 'cause you can select both answers and that actually counts as two votes.

[versed locust]

But if you select both options you self contradict yourself so you can’t do that or it would create a black hole and doom the universe or something like that (IDK I’m not a philosopher)

[grand sun]

I forgot it counted votes and not the amount of people who voted…

😅 whoops. Eh well. I’ll just use the order tracker to tally up those who voted.

[cunning shell]

I’m back

How’s everything going

[versed locust]

Pretty good. Not much new to report

[cunning shell]

Okay

Mid rounds

[cunning shell]

Hello

Twin battle cannons

At least there fixed so you can get out of the firing line

[cunning shell]

Did you see the mid rounds

[chilly iris]

Are we arriving out of the gate this round or the next?

[cunning shell]

I think it’s turn 3

Which is gonna be a interesting time

[chilly iris]

Oh definitely

[cunning shell]

Right in front of that behemoth

I pray for safe travels

[chilly iris]

Well, at least the pay is good

[cunning shell]

Permission to ride in a different HAT

[gusty aurora]

I petetion star-ships count as two in terms of A2A kills

[cunning shell]

Good news

We’re arriving with Taskforce 1

[chilly iris]

Sweet

[cunning shell]

Because they should be arriving turn 3 as far as I have heard

[gusty aurora]

yes

[cunning shell]

Do you think there’s another ship coming to support it

[violet sparrow]

round 2 mid-round events coming in

soon it will be our time folks 😄

[cunning shell]

I hope we just make it to the ground

[kindred eagle]

I hope for not getting shoot down on deployment in my first mission

[cunning shell]

Well see

First thing is getting there survive and make a move to the Elim city

[grand sun]

Family from out-of-state came over. Will be back at the comp shortly and will get caught up.

[cunning shell]

K

[grand sun]

Should I ask for an orders channel?

[cursive rapids]

Is there any kind of layout for how all the different BG's will deploy?

[grand sun]

Most are Auto-Freighter, so you don't get to choose anything until after it docks. Self-deployed choose formation to exit the gate.

Is that what you meant?

[violet sparrow]

You can any time

[cursive rapids]

Yea a big departure from previous campaigns

Hopefully we'll get some intel of the disposition of AA BEFORE we have to move lol

[grand sun]

Was trying to get a feel for timing.

[violet sparrow]

Well you can do that and have a channel

Cause I made it lol

[cursive rapids]

Dude has a sense of humor hahaha

[grand sun]

We'll know about AA before we get there, we may be limited on how much we know before we exit the gate...but we'll know before we get there either way. Storm and Fluffle are headed to Elim last I knew

[cursive rapids]

So long as we're not going first lol

[grand sun]

Alrighty 212th! We got ourselves an orders channel. Might not really need it until the Auto-freighters land if we're riding those down...but we can rest assured it's there for us when we do need it.

[violet sparrow]

You don't have to and I will just go down and check out what Lumar use for alcohol 😄

See you when you catch up 😝

[cursive rapids]

Hey once I get that rugged HAT upgrade Im down to throw myself in there

While Im still a softie though? you're free to have all that alcohol to yourself lol

[violet sparrow]

Two for me, none for you. Got it

[cunning shell]

You can have mine I don’t drink alcohol

[plucky river]

Can you save me one, I'd like a bit for once I finnaly land on the group

[cunning shell]

Nah you’re a void walker

[cursive rapids]

Gotta be quick. I don't think he's looking to share haha

[plucky river]

Noooo, it's all gonna be gone by the time Victorum makes it there

[cursive rapids]

I'll see if I can sneak you a case of something when I RTB lol

[violet sparrow]

Landed?!

Lightweight 😛

Have you seen our planes?

I am not going up in one sober lol

[cursive rapids]

dropping liquor on a parachute sounds wasteful at best

You think I fly it sober?

The great American Hero Russel Casse of Independance Day is my role model

https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-randy-quaid-hello-boys-im-back-smile-gif-4780199

[violet sparrow]

And look what happened to him the one day he decided to go sober 😝

[cursive rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-right-you-know-morgan-freeman-he-is-right-gif-9789067

[deep narwhal]

HEY!

T13C "Lucky 13" is perfectly airworthy!

... okay, fine, last mission, the squad that deployed from it got Crit the next turn and died.

[violet sparrow]

Thats why I don't trust sobriety

Now i plan on landing, grabbing whatever passes for a Lumarian bar fly tells me is the good stuff, and then I plan on going back up

And i am grabbing two bottles of it

One to drink while the plane is getting reloaded

And one for my in flight meal...

[cursive rapids]

This is when Shack drops lore that the Lumarians drink mildly toxic slug semen or something

[deep narwhal]

Still airworthy, though.

[cursive rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-star-wars-luke-skywalker-green-milk-gif-9285806083318067463

[violet sparrow]

If it kills brain cells, its all the same in the end

[cursive rapids]

Spoken like a true alcoholic

[deep narwhal]

You do realize that humans eat a lot of mild hallucinogens and also peppers?

[plucky river]

Look, I need to land before I can get a drink.

[deep narwhal]

Well, as long as it's your Coy Comd filling out the paperwork...

[violet sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/here's-to-you-breaking-bad-mike-ehrmantraut-jonathan-banks-cheers-gif-6910846720235476301

[violet sparrow]

That sounds like a you problem 😜

[plucky river]

If you're gonna toss me the drink while you're flying too, I'll take it. The back's open

Grab a crate or something and just launch it in. I'm sure at least 1 bottle will survive

[cursive rapids]

-shakes head- wasteful

[violet sparrow]

(And yes folks, I plan on riding this joke for all campaign

If my unit actually rakes up any kills, you are gonna have to tell my pilot that lol)

(Cause her remembering will be debatable)

[cursive rapids]

Only alchohol Im just throwing out the back unsecured is listerine

or maybe I'll put rum in listerine bottles...had someone do that on my last deployment

[grand sun]

I can respect the dedication. lol

[cursive rapids]

lol the fire and forget missiles are confusing sometimes

[violet sparrow]

Donner flies in, snub-HMGs firing and tearing apart a Bot Bomber seconds before it could drop its payload

"Well done Donnerschlag! You got 'em!"

"Got Wha-? Was I doing something?..." [starts hearing snoring]

"Donner! DONNER!! Cassie!!"

"Alright alright, I'm up"

[cursive rapids]

she's like the drunken fist master

except with planes

[violet sparrow]

If she survives, oh yes

If she doesn't...well you can guess what may have helped

[cunning shell]

Craziest thing they achieve some maneuvers that few do

Well drunk

So we’re gonna have a drunk pilot anyone else have anything they like to share

[violet sparrow]

Like a sleeping Professor...

[cunning shell]

Majestic creature

[cursive rapids]

Mine was kicked out of his planetary defense forces for being overly aggressive as a heavy lift pilot

[violet sparrow]

Wakes up later promoted to Captain

"...And mom said drinking would ruin my career..."

[cunning shell]

Dang

[cursive rapids]

alcoholics psycopaths...wait arent supposed to be the companies airborne logistics?

[versed locust]

Well you have to make logi not boring somehow

[cursive rapids]

drugs and violence will do it I suppose

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-fury-road-witness-gif-24567135

[versed locust]

I mean I just meant the alcohol but I guess that could also apply

[versed locust]

Speaking of, do we know how we’re thinking of distributing the mechs into the HATs?

[cunning shell]

I think we’re deploying via auto freighters

[grand sun]

[Order format](#1387899686135791756 message) has been added to our channel…and yes, I did basically copy/paste from Shovels.

[hidden scaffold]

hehe not sure though that facing matters for you (except for the mechs) 😅

[grand sun]

😜 Mechs mean I need it. Lol

[violet sparrow]

Facing can also matter for fighters

Assuming they intercept at their end point

Plus, it's also not a bad idea to just get in the habit 😉

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah i was honestly surprised that it was missing from the template

[hidden scaffold]

Isn’t facing mostly important for flanking?

[violet sparrow]

Also for the Fighter attack

Mainly if they intercept at their end point or not

[grand sun]

We have limited arc weapons now too (in general)…check out the orbital fighters and their weapon angle indicators.

Thanks for the pin Dres

[hidden scaffold]

Ahh right I forgot the arc change for fighters

[versed locust]

when are our first orders due? would it be on Sunday or would we wait till Wednesday?

[limber cape]

if you're self-deploying w/ (but probably behind) TF1, that would be Sunday. if you want to self-deploy the round after, that would be Wednesday.

[grand sun]

I can do a poll tomorrow, was trying to wait for new briefing.

[limber cape]

makes sense. no rush to decide really, though figuring out a deployment formation is probably a good idea regardless of when.

[grand sun]

Self-deploy would be Sunday. If we take the auto-freighters than I think we’d been another week for their travel time. I’d say either way we start orders Sunday…even if it’s just RP so we can start the involvement going.

[limber cape]

the 212th, scrappy underdogs to (possibly) the 2nd deployed BG to Lumaran space!

[grand sun]

Formation would look different depending on where we appear.

[cunning shell]

What do you put in the order for being transported isn’t it hold

[flat swift]

I mean, it's probably more like vibe but to each their own. 😄

[cunning shell]

Sounds like a good idea

So I put party

[grand sun]

My understanding is anything while in a cargo hold (TF or Auto-freighter) is RP. If you want to practice with all the slots, then it’d be “Hold” as you’re “Holding” in the cargo bay.

[cunning shell]

What about party

[grand sun]

I’d say the location would either be an auto-freighter cargo or a HAT cargo depending on self-deploy or not.

[grand sun]

😜 I mean…I plan to be pretty lax pre-deployment (and I’d consider us flying for self-deployment as us being deployed since we’d be targetable at that point)

The RP rounds aren’t needed, but they help people get used to getting their orders in. Downside of this staggered start is the campaign has been active, but many haven’t needed to really pay attention yet.

Meaning most of our BGs are at high risk of people missing orders because they haven’t needed to worry about them.

[grand sun]

11/16 have voted so far. I haven’t checked the names missing to those I know have been here, but it’s in a similar vane. Trying to make sure we launch at full strength with as little prodding as possible.

[cunning shell]

Okay

So I can goof around a tiny bit

checks the container holding the live Yerba

[grand sun]

Just do it on schedule and follow the rules with it.

[cunning shell]

Copy

[grand sun]

Other BGs have been doing RP orders already, but again…gotta make sure it’s not misusing the channel just because we don’t need actual orders.

[plucky river]

Hold is whenever you don’t move.
Advance is when you move.
Everything else is special.

[gusty aurora]

is our gate free or are we near one of the hot ones?

[gusty aurora]

"what I did to the landing gear only matters to the people who repair it and my spine if I ever get within arms reach"

[somber apex]

there was this one strategic map covered in red bot marks all over
was that a worst case scenario idea or did I haluzinate that one?

[oblique pecan]

no, that was a map according to our spec ops intel

[hidden scaffold]

Did you send Dave birdwatching again?

[grand sun]

Watching the HATs is kinda like birdwatching

[hidden scaffold]

ah morning Dave 👋

[grand sun]

Mornin! (Took the kids out for a morning bike ride before it got hot)

😅 lemme tell ya, I made it back to over a mile with the trailer loaded (6y rides w/training wheels while 4y and 18m rides in the trailer we recently bought)...but it was still a struggle.

[hidden scaffold]

I can imagine 😄

[grand sun]

I miss anything?

[grand sun]

There is currently combat at our exit gate. I suspect TF1 will be the one to actually clear secure it.

@somber apex ^ I meant to leave the ping on, but am so used to replying without ping that I hit enter before checking.

[somber apex]

no worries
I do kind of manage to stay up to date on this channel right now

[somber apex]

ahhh oke
cause most of those marks aren't on the current strategic map in the briefing room

[grand sun]

This is happening on the Tactical map level. Strat level is showing a fleet at the gate point, but not what's in the fleet

[cunning shell]

What does everyone think about the situation

[dapper quartz]

I don't recall if the Second Wind was the ship we escorted in FE102

If it was, I'm sad to see it go. But restraint and not tunneling on the immediate threat is a big part of winning large battles, so as much as I want to help the guys in space, we've decided to have some fighters make landfall with everyone else so I've gotta stay here and do that.

As of right now it doesn't look like we'll have a problem getting there.
Getting out, on the other hand... Well. I'm not the one paid to think about that.

[grand sun]

Situation: unfortunate

I'll do a poll after Captain drops the briefing. I'm very interested to see where our assets end up

I'm also now looking at the turn count for the auto-freighters

[cunning shell]

I think you mean situation: meh
New objective avoid and get to Elim city

Uhhh there’s life signs on that battlecruiser

[grand sun]

There’s enough forces that we aren’t needed at the gate…but the troops on the planet could likely use help.

[grand sun]

Nothing the 212th is equipped to help with

[cunning shell]

We got maps

Elim city isn’t looking good

[twin girder]

yeeaaahhh

[cunning shell]

Problem there’s a orbital blocking our path

With two fighters

[twin girder]

divert to crossroads?

[cunning shell]

I don’t know if we can do that

[versed locust]

We could try and get another group with a few fighters to launch a coordinated assault on the orbital with 1 or 2 escorting the rest of the transports to the station. Then they could all rearm if we get enough supplies to the starport

Or we could try and stay out of range of it and have our fighters running escort to ensure the transports don’t get shot

[cunning shell]

Fair point do we have any battle groups that have some fighters

[versed locust]

Actually wait, the orbital is ponderous, which means I think it has to move out of range of the Elm City area next turn. Or do I have that mistaken?

If I’m correct it means we may be able to just barely sneak by and land. Although now saying that it doesn’t leave us with much escape options until that orbital goes down

[grand sun]

Looks like Atlas’s vote is currently trending heavily toward them remaining and fighting at the gate. This means their fighters are likely doing the same.

I haven’t checked Fluffle’s intent, but we are one of the only remaining BGs that are able to self deploy. We are also the heaviest concentration of ground based fighters.

[cunning shell]

Then I vote to Self deploy

[keen vault]

If we do self deploy are we just trying to make it to the ground?

[cunning shell]

I figured that is the only option we have

[grand sun]

lol, I’ll do a proper poll. I’m on mobile, and trying to check other groups too

[grand sun]

That’d be my goal with self-deployment. Get to ground faster than the auto-freighters and assist Storm and the spec ops (who I guess are also Storm)

[keen vault]

gotcha, my biggest worry is we don't really have the firepower to do so effectively

will we be able to actually land the HAT's?

[grand sun]

Which is part of why I’m looking at other groups before jumping into a poll

[keen vault]

fiar

altas is them staying behind, which means Iron Hammer cant land, which means our early ground force is greatly reduced

which is my biggest worry

[grand sun]

Our fighters could get work done, but we are limited after the first volley and elsewhere. lol, we’re a logi group more than a combat group.

[keen vault]

exactly

[cunning shell]

Desperate times call for desperate measures

[grand sun]

I’d feel more confident if we could unload and rearm in Elim for sure.

[cunning shell]

They should have the Starport currently

[keen vault]

If they have the starport, and we can rearm, i think we can do it just fine

[cunning shell]

Just have to run the gauntlet to make it

[keen vault]

I mean we are really fast

[cunning shell]

Speed 5 same as storm

[keen vault]

yeah, it could work

[cunning shell]

The only problem I see is that orbital and our lack of numbers

We’re only 16 people

[grand sun]

We are a support BG 100%

[keen vault]

There is a very good chance if we go down there we get wiped

I don't know if we can support Storm in any meaningful way

[cunning shell]

But there’s no better place to risk it than down there

But that’s just me because I can’t fly I’m only a light mech

[chilly iris]

Without securing the starport or another AF in the city the HATs are sitting ducks now that we don’t have evasive maneuvers

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[keen vault]

yeah and we don't have a way to deploy all of our LMs without at least one HAT, which are our best combat unit

[cunning shell]

Dave please leave the bunker

Joking

Honestly that bunker might help

[keen vault]

oh right, we also have a bunker, which means without the starport we can deploy 1 LM

[cunning shell]

Storm is mostly infantry and VTOL right

[keen vault]

yep

they might just be infantry and VTOL

is there any way we can deploy, do a strike, and retreat back to a Task Force?

[cunning shell]

Not at the current moment most likely we’ll just arrive in high orbit like storm did

[grand sun]

If we were 1 shy of carrying the LMs via HVTOL than I’d consider it…tho I do think it could help the airfield’s security in Crossroads.

[cunning shell]

I was joking about it you do what you think is best ok

[keen vault]

Also one of our LM can attack once and then cant for the rest of the campaign

or well three times technically

[grand sun]

What if 212th and Flying Shovels could both self-deploy and bring Pathfinders with us?

[cunning shell]

We gun it

[grand sun]

Yeah! Our Logi LM

[keen vault]

that seems alot better, but again it depends if we can actually land the HATs

[cunning shell]

The only true LM worthy being here

[grand sun]

Delivering SS on Evasive

[cunning shell]

Can we transport Pathfinder

[keen vault]

we have alot of VTOL

or well, we have two and 3 HAT's

HAT's can cary alot of infantry if i remember correct;y

[grand sun]

Syntax thinks it’s possible, but hasn’t ran the numbers yet.

[cunning shell]

1 slot = 6FS for infantry

2 slots if I remember correctly for vehicles

They have 5

[keen vault]

we can also paradrop any Infantry and Light Vehicles

[cunning shell]

Smart thinking

Anyone else want to brainstorm with us

[keen vault]

which should include Light Mech's and im annoyed it doesn't

[cunning shell]

See I agree with that logic but I can understand that we LM aren’t really suited for parachutes

[grand sun]

Need jump jets for that one…

[cunning shell]

I’m looking at getting one after this

[keen vault]

yeah i know... LM just feel like such a wierd middle child in everything

we are very fast though that is nice

and evasive

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[keen vault]

wait but LV are just as fast and also have evaisive

and they can carry supply

[cunning shell]

Yup

[keen vault]

and have a better gun

[cunning shell]

They have range 2 right

[keen vault]

yep

and RapidFire

I think they need to reload but they can carry a small supply with them so

[cunning shell]

We have light lasers that don’t need reloading minus the range

[keen vault]

they dont need to reaload either

as far as i can tell

[cunning shell]

Meh I’m not bothered

Going afk brb

[grand sun]

Most basic guns don’t need to reload. For the most part that’s a refit weapon condition.

(So far we can’t deploy any other BG, so that scenario is likely a no go)

[cunning shell]

Dang it

What are we lacking in the deployment of a another battle group

[grand sun]

More slots than we can gain by bringing other BGs in. Unfortunately our size is quite limiting when we start looking at even the smallest other BG. Vics burn slots fast when you only have 3 HATs.

[cunning shell]

I see 🤔

Can we transport anyone else

[grand sun]

Basically, we can assist in BGs moving at vehicle speed. But we can’t deploy anyone

[keen vault]

just jumping in to say it looks like Atlas is no longer stopping to board

[grand sun]

We just don’t have the slots. Reports I’m finding are saying that Storm is convinced they can secure and hold the spaceport.

[grand sun]

That means more help for the ground at the potential cost of less firepower at the gate. That said, next round they may not need the extra firepower.

[keen vault]

yea

although, I vaguely read, so i think they arent if victorium ends up shooting the enemy ship, which last i checked victorium is doing

[grand sun]

Honestly, I think Auto-Freighters should wait another round. 1 speed Strat map feels a lot less sluggish that 1 speed tactical map.

[cunning shell]

Would self deploy do anything different game wise

For us

[plucky river]

All units would be active.
You'd be HATs, Fighters and VTOLs, with the LMs in a HAT or 2

It would make you faster

[grand sun]

We’d be targetable, move at speed 5, some of us could shoot, and we’d be able to go somewhere other than the spaceport.

And those are just the facts. There’s pros and cons to each method.

Auto-freighter means we can’t be targeted, move at speed 1, remain in a cargo hold until we unload at a spaceport.

[flat swift]

Does that mean were not landing till turn.... 8?

[plucky river]

If The Tactical map is cleared T 4. You'd make it feild nav then.
And Elim T 5.
If there is a high orbit tact map, then you'll be star port at T 8 best

[flat swift]

I am reading this as, if there is no contact over the city, the transports 'spawn in' over the city.

if there is a contact, the transports 'spawn in' at the gate?

[grand sun]

I think/thought that transports spawn at the gate. They then need to get to central Elim. This means they’d have to go to/through Field Nav 1 and Elim West Strat points.

[cunning shell]

makes hot chocolate and coffee it’s gonna be one of those days

So how do you feel about the information

[keen vault]

kicks up feet and lays back someone wake me up when we hit the ground

[cunning shell]

We have to decide

[keen vault]

yeah, i was curious if we can self deploy even after being in a ship, like can we start in the NPC transport and then choose to deploy

[cunning shell]

I don’t think we can when we are in a freighter because we have to get to the Starport

[versed locust]

If we self deploy we will have to figure out what supplies and we are starting with and how the mechs will be distributed among the transports

[cunning shell]

We can do that

Are we planning to do something with the other HVTOL

Because Dave is carrying his bunker what’s the other HVTOL doing then?

[cursive rapids]

Just got off work

The intel doesn't look good

Spawning in at the gate seems a bit silly if the fleets already deployed elsewhere

[gusty aurora]

well if nothing else our squadroncan at least harass the bots using civillians as target practcis

[cursive rapids]

or our freighters will present a better target

[gusty aurora]

true but this is gonna be an issue one way or another I'd rather at least give em a reason to back off or lose some efficacy

[cursive rapids]

being dead is a great way for them to lose efficacy

[gusty aurora]

exactly

[grand sun]

Outside of taking a LS to shovels, no commitment…and the LS doesn’t have to be grabbed early.

[grand sun]

All or nothing. We either exit the gate as our units or we wait and exit the freighters at the port. No middle ground.

[keen vault]

Gotcha, makes sense

[cursive rapids]

either way we're waiting awhile

[grand sun]

We could be in the next round if we choose to self-deploy. If we choose freighter then I figure at least another week if I’m understanding their movement correctly.

Simple and to the point.

Pros and cons to each…but this is what it boils down to and I think Sunday’s cut off is where our choice is locked.

[kindred eagle]

Oh boy

[cursive rapids]

will our fighters be effective in the gate at least?

and if we do deploy will that slow us down?

[grand sun]

Our fighters could engage at the gate if they wanted…

[grand sun]

Self-deploy is 5x faster than freighter-deploy. Speed is a pro for self-deploy. Flip-side is we’re targetable if we self-deploy vs kinda not existing if we go freighter.

[chilly iris]

If there was an abstain choice I’d choose it as I don’t really mind either outcome

[cursive rapids]

well I'd be all for deploying if we had something to deploy

But until something is in Elim that needs Beans Bullets and Bandaids...we'd be jumping the gun a bit

[grand sun]

😅 Yeah...I realized that after I hit send...

Just salute it if you don't care so I know you saw it.

[chilly iris]

True

[grand sun]

Shovels are going to do a poll, but they're the only other BG that can self-deploy

[cursive rapids]

we can offer some space to some infantry that wants to go ahead and secure the airfield...if thats possible at his stage

[cunning shell]

I think we have to go through the Elim city to get to the crossroads

[grand sun]

For the most part, our job begins when Shovels makes it planetside and then takes off after the airfield.

The draw for action sooner is tempting, but the safety of the freighter is hard to pass on. Either way tho, Captain's confirmed that I have to turn in a TCO order this round.

[cunning shell]

Okay

[cunning shell]

Good morning people

Remember to participate in the vote or salute it if you abstain and don’t really care

[versed locust]

Would we be able to support Shovels in time with the auto freighter

[grand sun]

Player intentions are starting to come in.

[grand sun]

I’d assume it’d depend on if they ride freighters or self-deploy.

[cunning shell]

Kinda bummed we’re not self deploying

But I understand that we have to be safe

[grand sun]

12hrs and 7 votes remain.

[cunning shell]

Well see

Either way it’ll be a honor to be here and hopefully survive

[kindred eagle]

Me too

[chilly iris]

It’s been an honor flying with you all, hopefully whatever the outcome we show the bots why you don’t fuck around

[cunning shell]

Just reminding everyone that if we go through the auto freighters we lose our mobility and we can’t self deployed mid way

[kindred eagle]

For you guys with more experience, what are the pros and cons of each? I'm still undecided.

[grand sun]

Looking forward to seeing what we accomplish. A logi BG hasn’t really been seen before, so we’re all in new territory with that.

[grand sun]

So, this bit is new.

Self-deploy

• targetable
• speed 5
• not locked to spaceport
• can take actions
  Auto-freighter
• not targetable
• speed 1
• locked to spaceport
• can’t take actions

[plucky river]

Basically, You become targetable for more flexability.

[grand sun]

That’s the main facts I’ve been using to compare the two

[kindred eagle]

How far are we from our objective?

[grand sun]

2 Strat points. (Tac maps slow us down tho)

[cunning shell]

But we can make it to elim high orbit

[grand sun]

I think I counted and it’s 5 from gate to the Nav Field 1 label and 4ish from the Nav Field 1 label and Elim high orbit.

[cunning shell]

Ok

Crazy idea

[plucky river]

If you wanted to risk the danger. If you self deploy you could make it to Feild Nav 1 this turn

[cunning shell]

We could make a right turn and immediately rush the Nav-1

All the bots guns look to be facing the left side

[kindred eagle]

🤔

[cursive rapids]

are all of the ships sporting gimbled guns and not turreted ones?

and besides what are we bringing to Elim anyway? we dont have any troopers to drop as far as Im tracking

[kindred eagle]

Supplys i think

[grand sun]

Honestly, ahead of the main forces…I think we’d basically just contribute fighters and maybe LMs unless Storm needs Supplies

[cursive rapids]

lets ask them if thats worth the risk to us then

Our value is long term no need to rush in needless and discover something we're not prepared to face

[grand sun]

It’s what the poll is for and why I’m waiting to see what Shovel decides to vote something other than abstain.

No one is expecting us to arrive on our own power and the only support request we’ve got is to bring LS to Shovels at Crossroads.

This choice is ours without outside influence (other than me watching shovels so we can keep pace).

[cunning shell]

Ok

9 hours left

[cunning shell]

Here’s the vote if you haven’t already voted

[versed locust]

Do we have any interest in taking more than the 1 LS for Shovels? Is there any way it could be worth it or not really?

I am currently thinking of taking a LS but I don’t really know if we have a perceivable use for it

[grand sun]

I think their airfield will stay up for 4 rounds per LS or something like that cause they’re building a LS depot too.

[versed locust]

If we would be in the crossroads for an extra turn after the airfield it made, I could give them a LS and then also stock up on small supply after since you can pull as much SS from a place with LS

[grand sun]

I don’t know if you can stockpile LS, but we can definitely check when we get close.

[cunning shell]

What can LS do

Besides the airfield

[hidden scaffold]

Resupply for a TF, sorties, can be used for BG storage like Atlas is doing for Iron Hammer

[onyx bone]

And add a temporary +1 for for temporary speed, and (if they have the equipment) allows TFs to deploy space mines.

[versed locust]

It might be good to take and use it to support our fighters who may want to sortie. Or would the other groups need the large supply to have air units sortie into them?

[onyx bone]

The group who is doing the sortie is the one who pays.

[versed locust]

Though so, in that I can take a LS and if our fighters want to head off somewhere for a round I can spend it to let them do that. I think it only last for a single round though, so they would have to return to the main fleet the next turn, or we would have to move to them, but fighters only have 1 ammo anyway so I think it could be a good shout

[onyx bone]

It's 1 LS per round. So technically you can have them out longer if you have the LS for it. But yeah, if their out of ammo then they have to come back anyway

[versed locust]

I don’t know if we can support more than 2 LS and still be able to transport the mechs

[grand sun]

Forgot about the potential for us resupplying a TF. Good reminder.

Keep us posted on what y’all are planning for deployment. My vote will be for mirroring y’all.

[plucky river]

HATs can’t start with LS in their cargo. You’d need to take it from a TF

See QnA

[versed locust]

Could we take it from an auto-freighter?

[plucky river]

They don’t have LS

Just Battlegroup storage

[versed locust]

Hmm, that puts a hole in things since we need a large supply for our HVTOL too

[plucky river]

Yeah. The plan was to get that from Atlas

[versed locust]

In that case we probably have to deploy by ourselves and move over to Atlas for the LS

[violet sparrow]

Cap already answered this. As long as we are not just going on our lonesome, we should be fine
#1382781756989767692 message

[onyx bone]

We plan to move to units as needed but will definitely be keeping the Crossroads stocked up as best we can

[versed locust]

Do you think Atlas could spare a second LS for us? I believe our HVTOL is already taking one for the airfield but a second one could help us immensely.

[twin girder]

probably not, we are pretty tight for the whole campaign

[onyx bone]

We'll have to see, I can't make that decision by myself but our purpose is to keep you all stoked so you can resupply the others.

[cursive rapids]

The fleet also has to keep itself stocked

Along with wherever else we land

[grand sun]

Looks like Shovels are leaning towards self-deploying and heading to the rock station first.

[cursive rapids]

Interesting do we have any intel about the rock?

And do the shovels have any substantial firepower if the rest of the fleet heads towards Elim

[hidden scaffold]

Well the lumaran defense fleet headed there

[cursive rapids]

We do like NPCcannon fodder

And or free ships

[hidden scaffold]

Firepower not much but we have 2 IFVs. 2 LMs and 4 infantry. Otherwise mostly engineers and HATs

[cursive rapids]

And we have fighters and HATs

[hidden scaffold]

Oh yeah and one VTOL I forgot they have guns

[cursive rapids]

By our powers combine

[hidden scaffold]

We might be reliant on you for later deployment. One HAT player is on vacation and probably won't have any or bad reception for 2 weeks

[cursive rapids]

Well if the elim city deployment is going to be as slow as it seems it might be wise to go ahead snd secure that corner of the map and get whatever resources we can while thr Main force still has their initial supplies

If we take too long we can always break off a detachment of HATs and supplies to go support them there

[hidden scaffold]

If we can get a hold of the fleet maybe we can fly back and transfer Rabbit and Spearhead into it?

[cursive rapids]

Assuming we find them with crews

[hidden scaffold]

BG TF Flying Shovels

[cursive rapids]

Lmao

[hidden scaffold]

That would be wild

[cursive rapids]

Flying a fleet of warships

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-temple-of-doom-famous-last-words-hold-my-beer-i-got-this-gif-5612987119531633929

Yall are already flying shovels though...so these would have to be something like the Super Shovels

Or the Star Shovels

[hidden scaffold]

Flying Spoons?

[cursive rapids]

Well a spoon is a small shovel

And these are WAY bigger than the original flying shovels

[hasty garden]

Flying tbms?

[cursive rapids]

What's a tbm?

[hasty garden]

Tunnel boring machine

[cursive rapids]

Lmao

I think that's skipping a few steps

Maybe a flying excavator or a backhoe first

I feel like that would have to be like a super star destroyer filled with short bearded engineers lol

[gusty canyon]

knock knock

curses again having wrong the wrong office twice

[violet sparrow]

I mean they are ore haulers with some fighters escorting them

So they will have crew already, but the number of haulers and the units each can carry is finite

But I don't know if i call them a defense fleet

Sounds more like refugees

All they need is one lone War Orbital defending them, and you basically have Lumarian Battlestar Galactica lol

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah reread it and I just confused two bits of confirmation

Would be still interesting if we could convince them to move the frigates to Lussan Gate

[grand sun]

Missing 5 votes. If you don’t have a preference, just solute.

[plucky river]

That’s why I always add don’t care to my polls

[grand sun]

Shovel’s poll is still majority favoring self-deployment.

If we self-deploy, I’ll need orders from everyone and we’ll need to work on distribution of LMs and formation.

[grand sun]

Realized as soon as I confirmed the poll.

[cursive rapids]

Id assume we just form up the HATs with the fighters around them

Not sure what to do with the VTOLs

[grand sun]

Before and after the HATs with 3 fighters each side maybe. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[cursive rapids]

group the fighters together to handle targets in detail

focus them down one at a time

[grand sun]

That’d be far more effective.

[grand sun]

With this result, this means we’ll need to be turning in proper orders due <t:1751234340:F>. Look at the map, think about what you’d like to accomplish. We don’t have to engage, we could make a run for it. Just keep in mind the enemy orbital’s intentions and armament.

[cursive rapids]

which gate would we need to head to? the top left?

[plucky river]

Everything within 2 tiles of the torumentor and it's path is under enemy HMG fire.
Victorum has fighters in the air so you should be fine, but a note that you might want to keep in mind

[grand sun]

I’ve been mathing to 4014 since it has the Nav field 1 label.

[cursive rapids]

Ah so it does

what do the orange bars mean?

[grand sun]

I think they are for navigation. Captain’s way to mark connections.

[grand sun]

I’m glad to hear y’all will have fighters ready too and obviously Atlas’s are currently on the field

[plucky river]

You need to be between them to move to the next strategic point

[surreal canyon]

Sorry I've been away, what have I missed over the last couple days.

[cursive rapids]

Good timing youre about to be busy

[surreal canyon]

Ah excellent

[cursive rapids]

Im assuming we'll launch from 4117 and just gun straight north then?

[grand sun]

I think 4119 (Atlas is speed 2 so they got up to 4117), but screaming through the fight is one of the ideas I had too. I think that’d have us end in Field Nav 1

[deep narwhal]

We don't need resupply for at least 2 rounds. Probably actually like 5 rounds, we don't spend that much.

(... more accurately, we can only spend so much, because we don't have that many units consuming it compared to how much we bring.)

[grand sun]

Fair enough. Haha

[cunning shell]

So I’ll be posting hold position in the cargo hold of a HAT

[cursive rapids]

Could someone post the orders channel in here? I was a dummy and didnt follow it

[cunning shell]

Here is the template

[cursive rapids]

Oh I didn't even see that much appreciated!

Could you link the channel too? I've been having issues with not seeing alot of the channels in this discord especially with the campaigns

[cunning shell]

BG14 order channel

It’s in mission orders

[cursive rapids]

Yep dont see that either

[cunning shell]

You don’t see the mission orders channel

At the bottom below the comms of Venator

[cursive rapids]

That's all I see

Only reason I see this one is because it popped up under "suggested channels" one day lol

I've never seen it anywhere except this discord no idea what it is

[flat swift]

let me try this

your in 212th

https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1387899686135791756

Click that, see if it pops up for you

[cunning shell]

You seeing it

Thanks nalla extra hot chocolate for your next package

[dapper quartz]

So I see that something's going on

[dapper quartz]

Apparently we've got orders due in... today? So...

What are we doing exactly? Shooting out of the gate towards Elim Space via Field Nav 1?

[hasty garden]

That or following shovels to the station I guess is the choice

[dapper quartz]

...What are Shovels going to be doing at the station?

[hasty garden]

Assisting the pdf hiding out there iirc

[dapper quartz]

So...
We're speed 5 in space, right?
So what's the plan? Load up the mechs, blast to 3815 via 3817?

Minus perhaps some fighters flying point?

[hidden scaffold]

Honestly just an unlock and see if we can maybe move the transports to Lussan Gate so Rabbit and Spearhead can deploy quicker

[dapper quartz]

Right. And just to check, we're dropping out of the gate, right?

[chilly iris]

Yup

I believe because our BG is speed 5, if we shoot straight up from the gate we can make it to field nav 1

[dapper quartz]

But we'd be going through (or by) active combat to do that

[chilly iris]

We might be able to slip around the right side of the Tormentor and avoid getting shot. When I’m not driving I can check what Shovels is doing because I think we’re just going to follow them

[dapper quartz]

Doesn't look like they've decided on a route yet

FWIW here's how I see things.

Option 3 is to go further to the right, sort of 4416-ish, hopefully just overwhelming the smaller bot ship with sheer numbers.

[chilly iris]

Do we know if the smaller ship has fired its cannons yet?

Because it might have to spend a turn reloading

[dapper quartz]

From reading the midround events, it seems to be a spoopy stealthy vulture/boarder thing

My £0.02 is that I'd rather take fire from Tormentor than have one of our HATs find out what that thing can do.

[hidden scaffold]

The orbitals would probably shoot Atlas right?

[dapper quartz]

I sure hope so

But if you're a bot, hopelessly outmatched, and definitely going down, what do you do? Shoot a warship that can probably take it, or shoot a transport that most definitely can't?

(Then again, I think it's still in the rules that tanks shoot tanks over everything else, so maybe it's the same for warships.)

[chilly iris]

That was a thing in C3 where weapons with AP prioritized units with armor first

I believe that still applies

[hidden scaffold]

yeah they do have HMGs though

But also the TF Vict are doing their attack run

[chilly iris]

Hopefully a bot ship goes down then

[dapper quartz]

@hasty garden you aren't allowed to edit orders. If you need to edit you need to delete and re-post.

To my understanding that even applies to instant-ish edits.

[chilly iris]

Yup, delete and resend with the edit

[dapper quartz]

That aside... who even is deciding our flight path? Do we just... let the Tac-Com(s) decide?

[chilly iris]

We still have about 7.5 hours to decide as a group

[dapper quartz]

Ehh... yeah, I'll be awake for that.

[chilly iris]

Plus us tac-coms can really only make suggestions or small rule corrections

If someone really wanted to they could go a completely different way as long as they reach the point that the BG is going

So in theory our faster units like the HATs could take a safer but longer route around the bot ships because they have 7 speed

[grand sun]

Sorry about the crunch, following rounds will be a lot easier.

[grand sun]

Unfortunately you’re right. We can’t process orders that have the “edited” tag period.

“Formation” is fine, but we do need to know your intent too. In this case, if you’re wanting to reach the nav while in formation, it needs to be in the order. Gotta have more to go off of.

@hasty garden ^

[grand sun]

Both TF2 and TF1 will have fighters active in the area as well.

@hidden scaffold y’all picked a route yet?

[hidden scaffold]

Talking with one HAT player right now. The rest of the air transport hasn't responded yet

One idea is to fly via 4318 to 4315

[chilly iris]

Just to note, I may be pulling it a bit close on the order deadline as I was called into work and can only be on mobile

But I will still have time for maps for tomorrow

[grand sun]

No worries!

[chilly iris]

Also speaking of maps, do we have orbital models for use in TTS? I know there the designs for use in photoshop but was just wondering if others exist

[grand sun]

Unit Type: 
Carrying: 
Equipment: 

Order Type: 

Movement/Action Tracker: 
Facing:

Starting Coords: 
Ending Coords: 

RP:```

There’s the clean template in it’s own message to help with mobile friendliness

[chilly iris]

Thank you!

[grand sun]

My DMs are open too, so if you need a place to paste and edit to work stuff out before the final submission feel free to use that

[grand sun]

I believe you’d have to use the orbital icons from the pack to make your own in TTS.

[chilly iris]

Gotcha, thank you

[grand sun]

Your VTOL hasn’t responded yet, right?

Oh, but ending 4315 going that route is 5…so VTOL too

[hidden scaffold]

Jup

[grand sun]

Does that leave you at the gate at the end of the round or transfer you?

[hidden scaffold]

Well we would be in the exit area so maybe?

[grand sun]

Same knowledge as me, gotcha. lol

Something like this?

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah

[chilly iris]

Would that put us in the Elim city high orbit map or a new “Nav field 1 map”?

[ebon river]

Have we figured out the distribution of mechs yet?

[grand sun]

Fighters could run Evasive like what’s been happening with those already involved, and could do a formation with VTOLs/HVTOLs on the inside of the HATs for extra buffer.

[chilly iris]

Not yet I believe

[grand sun]

Next round we’d be able to choose the mining station or Elim. At best, we’d reach the Field Nav 1

[grand sun]

You have a special request? Could do 1 per HAT to leave Hoover open to grab an LS without us offloading the LMs

[ebon river]

No special plans. In fact I should probably refresh myself on what units can carry what

[chilly iris]

Would we fill the rest of the HATs with ss?

[cunning shell]

Who am i riding with

[grand sun]

HATs and HVTOLs can carry y’all. 2 can fit in a single HAT, HVTOL can only carry 1 at a time.

[grand sun]

I don’t think we can start loaded, but I’d like us to be stocked for most of the campaign.

Logistics tab.

Sorry, mobile for most of today (weekends in general are likely going to be mobile for me)

[grand sun]

Any requests?

[cunning shell]

I prefer a HVTOL

They can take a hit but uhh

Falcon i guess

Because you’re transporting the bunker

The other HVTOL is transporting the LS so yeah i take falcon

[grand sun]

With HATs’ extra speed, they could go a little wider too if they wanted to spend more time outside the HMG range.

[cunning shell]

Remember HMG range is 2

So you can go right of the enemy orbitals and evade them

[chilly iris]

Just hope those boarding missiles can’t target us

[grand sun]

This is the path shovels shared

[cunning shell]

You can’t be boarded

[grand sun]

HATs shouldn’t be on that list. Hostile Fighters should prioritize fighters and at least most orbital weapons should target orbitals…if they hold to the C3 behavior. AP weapons prioritize armored targets.

[chilly iris]

Sweet

[grand sun]

Most hostile units and weapons should basically target anything else before a HAT…unless the HAT is the first thing they see.

[violet sparrow]

We going on as a group i take it?

[grand sun]

Was a narrow one, but self-deploying won the poll.

Shovels is also self-deploying

[violet sparrow]

OK then, sounds good. What will our movement as a group be? I been busy this weekend and hadn't been able to keep up.

Want to put my fighter where it can hopefully cover our flank as we fly in

[grand sun]

I’m on mobile, but this is the route Shovels was planning last I knew. @hidden scaffold can you confirm that this is still y’all’s route?

[hidden scaffold]

This is the route. Two HAT players submitted orders already

[grand sun]

This is speed 5 from gate to 4315

That make sense to you @violet sparrow ?

[ebon river]

I’d also prefer an HVTOL, they can drop us straight into the fight

[grand sun]

I’ll have a version of a TCO map completed by <t:1751295660:F> (sooner if I can manage some time after kids go to bed tonight) for everyone to be able to review.

[plucky river]

If the Mechs want. You could land HATs on the Exodia and let them use the mech door.

[grand sun]

If we had a 3rd HVTOL than I’d consider leaving my bunker…but since we can’t hot deploy all 3, I’d really like to get some deployable gameplay.

[grand sun]

LMs, this is an option if we wanted to fight at the gate rather than pushing through.

[plucky river]

You have enough speed that you could land this turn and leave next turn

Plus fight with the mechs for T3 and T4

[chilly iris]

Aren’t we following shovels to field nav 1?

[plucky river]

You can do that still

The Exodia is going to 4217 this turn

I think.
Unless you’re making it to field nav 1. But you’ll have already used 5 speed.

I’m not too sure how hitting the last tile works

[chilly iris]

We might need the speed to go one more tile to travel to the next area

I tried seeing how Stormblessed did it but it wasn’t really intuitive

[ebon river]

We’re probably best getting one of the laser mechs dirtside first, I doubt we’ll need more AA with all our fighters

Unless we need me to rush supply somewhere as soon as we land

[grand sun]

I figure future transportation we’ll be able to case by case unless we just go ground paths.

@twin girder you wanting to take a LM to the ground first or are you wanting to grab the LS before we get to the planet?

[kindred eagle]

since we are deploying, what are the others fighters planning to do?, will we be moving in a formation?

[dapper quartz]

I imagine that some of us should be moving within the formation.

Or, well, on the outside of it.

[hidden scaffold]

Hey just to ask in advance would it be possible that one of our engineers gets a spot on one of your transports?
Just in case the last VTOL doesn't show up

[grand sun]

We’ve definitely got space!

[cunning shell]

Just making is Falcon aware I’m hitching a ride

@versed locust letting you know I’m hitching a ride to the planet don’t get shot down

[keen vault]

Yeah who's carrying who?

[cunning shell]

I’m going with Falcon one of the HATs unless they don’t respond I’ll have to find another transport

[keen vault]

gotcha, im happy to be carried in whatever

[cunning shell]

Same

See you on the ground brother pilot

[twin girder]

Last I saw shovels is pealing off to the mining station. That still true?

[grand sun]

Yeah, that’s still their plan to give ground forces more time to hit Elim before Shovels gets there.

[cunning shell]

We still landing at Elim or we going with shovels

[twin girder]

Since the vote was to self deploy, I can carry a LM. As it seems like we will be making land fall at Elim before shovels or Altas are ready to support AF construction

[grand sun]

They’d like the fighter cover. But we’ll have to choose next round.

[grand sun]

Shovels don’t need the LS till Crossroads anyway. I just wanted to leave it up to you

[cunning shell]

So we’re just going to Nav-1

Got it

[grand sun]

Furthest we can get this round anyway

[cunning shell]

Yay…

Just one more turn in a metal coffin no dirt

Well I guess I shouldn’t complain because it’s better than being shot at it

[cunning shell]

Can you post the logistics tab

[grand sun]

@cunning shell you were the first to ask, do you want the HVTOL slot?

[cunning shell]

Yes yes yes

Please

[grand sun]

You mean this bit?

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[grand sun]

@twin girder you’ve got LM Crow at least till Elim.

[twin girder]

orders are due tonight, right?

[grand sun]

@keen vault and @ebon river we’ll get you latched into either @versed locust , @chilly iris , or @cursive rapids . Can fit both LMs in the same HAT or split the LMs up.

[ebon river]

Probably safer to split us up? That way we lose only two units if one goes down, rather than a chance at three

[grand sun]

Yup yup! 6pm Eastern ideally…but I can be a little flexible since we’re all having to hustle to get orders in this round.

[grand sun]

We also don’t really benefit from putting 2 LMs in the same HAT currently.

Main roster tab has a column for “Carrying”

[chilly iris]

@ebon river @keen vault Who wants to be in my HAT?

I can take the engineers from BG9 as well

[cunning shell]

Do I need to do anything with movement or coordinates

[ebon river]

I feel like you’ve proven lucky

I’d love a ride

[cunning shell]

Rather than saying starting in Hoovers cargo hold and ending still in the cargo hold

[chilly iris]

Nope, in your movement just say that you’re being carried by Hoover

[chilly iris]

That’s pretty much what you do lol

[cunning shell]

I’m going to bed Dave ping me and let me know if there’s anything I need to fix okay

[chilly iris]

Still need a ride for that engineer?

[keen vault]

If you’ve got space for two a ride sounds great

[chilly iris]

Yeah I’ve got space for the both of you

[keen vault]

Sweet, I’ll hop in

[chilly iris]

@violet sparrow your order is good but the map you provided shows different information

[hidden scaffold]

Maybe haven't seen anything yet from the VTOL player but there is still time

[chilly iris]

All good

[violet sparrow]

Yeah I had the end coordinates numbers off in my orders, got it changed

I moved one cell over from what Shovel is doing cause honestly, we are not all gonna fit in the same place anyway. This way I can at least show that I am moved over one and trying to be on the rest of the formations left

[chilly iris]

Don’t want a traffic jam lol

[dapper quartz]

Hopefully we don't accidentally create focus fire.

[grand sun]

Fighters and HATs, I believe 4414 is within the transfer range as well and I know 4214 is. If y’all want to push up the extra spot, feel free. Us VTOLs are slow compared to y’all, so 4315 is about the best we can do without flying directly over the combat.

@hidden scaffold have all your HATs reported in?

[hidden scaffold]

Just Party is missing but is aware of the order deadline

Otherwise the HAT VTOL player

[grand sun]

If Party wants to push further, they could. Speed 5 is a VTOL limitation.

[dapper quartz]

I think we're already moving 6 anyway... aren't we?

[grand sun]

I hadn’t thought about the traffic jam Dres mentioned.

[hidden scaffold]

We had 17 VTOLs in one tile

Still have

[grand sun]

The arrow path on mine is speed 5. Gate to 4318 to 4315

[grand sun]

How could I forget to look at Storm…point taken. I did see the fighters on the tac map. The scale difference is something I’m gonna have to get used to.

[dapper quartz]

Oh right, turning and all that doesn't cost anything apparently or something

[grand sun]

Captain removed the turning cost unless I missed him adding it back in

[dapper quartz]

There's no mention of it anywhere I can find.

[violet sparrow]

It was removed. Was just over complicatsd and didn't add what he wanted to air units

Got replaced with Intercept rules and fighters having a 180° arc attack

[grand sun]

That’s what I thought, but I admittedly haven’t gone through fighters as thoroughly

[somber apex]

should all of us Fighters use Evasive ?
or will our wingman bonus be good enough to survive through it?

[cursive rapids]

Typing up orders now is there anything thst needs to be carried? It seems like most everything id covered

[somber apex]

we still have some space in the vtols right? can we throw in some SS or something?

oh also. also to the Fighters
should we cover all 4 cardinal directions? like, have at least 1 of us face at each one, just in case?
or do we even need anyone east and south? seems like the only enemies are gonna be North and West

[grand sun]

Up to y’all. I know Dres went Intercept but there’s also more than just the 6 of y’all that’ll be on map.

[grand sun]

We’ve got more slots, so you’re good to go if you’d like. We may need either a HAT or a VTOL to take some of Shovel’s boots…but you can submit if you’d like.

Push comes to shove, I can always ping someone to see about resubmitting if all the transports have orders in.

[chilly iris]

@ebon river You pinged the wrong puffin in your order lol

[grand sun]

We’ve lots of space, but we can’t spawn in loaded with supplies.

[cursive rapids]

Ill submit and keep my cargo TBD

[somber apex]

I was trying to look that movement up and couldn't find anything abuot it xD

[cursive rapids]

If I fly empty and just bring shovels somewhere on the backend that works. Better safe than sorry

[somber apex]

ahhh oki

[somber apex]

more like Push comes to Shovel :3c

[cursive rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[somber apex]

https://tenor.com/view/eto-bleh-gif-14618428694469046242

hey, I came over from the 9th. I'm allowed to make that joke

[grand sun]

It’s a fighter special I think…one moment.

[cursive rapids]

If theres anything I've learned from this its that the beards can do anything

So long as they're allowed to make awful shovels puns

[grand sun]

Ok…I’m not seeing that as an order type either, more something that happens if y’all engage something else. I’ll keep trying to dig, but mobile is rough

[somber apex]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sassy-confident-beard-filter-gif-17326361

pov: Mirror at the 9th

[violet sparrow]

@cursive rapids you need to list you Callsign as well as unit type with your orders

Also if you are a HAT, you can't use the Evasive order type. Only certain units can

[somber apex]

I'm not having much more success on desktop
what section is the "happens when engagement" part at?

[grand sun]

Closest I’ve found so far:

Aerospace Interceptor: If a unit with this tag attacks an Aerospace unit, it forces the targeted aerospace unit to only attack the Interceptor. If the hostile can’t then it can’t attack during its turn.

[violet sparrow]

And also be aware everyone, we have a lot of battlegroups wanting to move through the same area. We are not all gonna fit

So if when the TAC-COM maps and later Round maps get posted and you are all not in the area you indicated or even the same Hex, that is intentional. Orders just stay your units intentions, not where they will nessessary go.
The TAC-COMs and Shack will have to move people around and spread them out to make them fit

[cursive rapids]

Oops looks like I deleted a line. Fixed it though and a hat can totally be evasive if you believe and have some absolutely massive forearms

[violet sparrow]

Belief does not a order type make 😂

[cursive rapids]

...what about massive arms? 😂

[violet sparrow]

There doesn't appear to be a Intercept Order Type. Thats on me thinking it got added. The Aerospace Intercepter tag just means it happens

So Advance or Evasive, I think either will work depending on what you want to do

[grand sun]

Either works. Most are going Evasive since it makes getting hit harder and I don’t think our fighters are currently thinking about dealing damage. Up to you on what you wanna do tho.

[dapper quartz]

Is now a good time for me to add that I have no idea if "escorting" actually does anything and I'm just adding it into my order because it sounds useful?

[somber apex]

right. I remember reading that too. but I didn't see it mentioned again
I assume it's for an upgrade/module/special vehicle type?

[grand sun]

😅 I need you to copy and paste it back in. I can’t process “edited” orders.

[somber apex]

yea, was thinking about adding that too

[somber apex]

oh you can't? gonna repost mine too then

[grand sun]

I figured it was you basically saying “in formation”

[dapper quartz]

Also, just a thought, but are we gonna let rip with our guns? Strictly speaking we can shoot at anything in front of us but that might also mean we run out of ammo immediately.

[grand sun]

It’s a tag, so just something applied to certain things. This one might just be fighters atm.

[somber apex]

makes sense

[grand sun]

Unfortunately TCOs can’t. It’s protection against us processing something that was then edited.

[somber apex]

makes total sense

[grand sun]

I think Captain will have y’all shoot at something that crosses, but not sure. Y’all could likely rearm with Atlas before Elim tho.

[dapper quartz]

Also, just a(nother) thought, but shouldn't someone go on the east side of the formation?

[violet sparrow]

I am gonna try to deal damage. Cassie has been drinkin'. She is reckless 😛

[somber apex]

I was gonna do that, but then you called me to your side :p

[chilly iris]

It used to mean something but now not really, just in a formation to make mapping easier

[ebon river]

Ah. Whoops

[cursive rapids]

Lol ok

[grand sun]

Thanks!

[cursive rapids]

Yep! Thanks for all your hardwork boss

[grand sun]

I’m looking forward to actually playing with maps.

If I’ve caught them correctly, I think we’re at 10/16 with none of the current orders having obvious errors.

[cursive rapids]

With 3 hours remaining? Not bad

If you have a players permission can you submit orders on their behalf?

[grand sun]

🤔 I counted 11…I need to see who I missed.

[cursive rapids]

I had 2 sets of orders until I deleted one

[grand sun]

Especially with us finding out so last minute what the plan was.

[grand sun]

Nope! Gotta have a paper trail. They have to put an order in or I have to mark they missed the round.

[chilly iris]

I’m one of them, just waiting to see if I’m carrying an engineer from shovels

[grand sun]

Found it!

@ebon river I need you to delete your original order with the wrong puffin when you get the chance. I see 2 orders from you in the channel.

[cursive rapids]

You can always just say your cargo is TBD and change it later

[grand sun]

No worries! I’ll start pinging when I start getting nervous about it. With this being such a crunch, I’ll likely accept late orders within reason for this round.

[grand sun]

@keen vault on the roster I see you’re down to ride the HAT Puffin. You’re cleared to enter the order. I know it’s just an order saying you’re in the HAT, but I still need the order so I can mark you as active for the round and have a paper trail saying you weren’t kidnapped. Lol

[violet sparrow]

Depending on how much all our battlegroups have to spread out, I may be flying over that Battlecruisers nose...from its end point 🤣 just to stay on the left flank

That is not a deal breaker for me. In fact, that is almost a incentive

"ARMCO Command, permission to buss the Bot tower"

[grand sun]

@gusty aurora and @surreal canyon . Your fighters are cleared for launch! Please send in your orders. You can see the plans of the fighters in #1387899686135791756 or just ping me.

[grand sun]

😜 I’ll keep that in mind

I’ll share a TCO map draft either tonight or tomorrow (I’m Central time US for reference).

I normally turn my maps in close to the deadline unless it’s done way early.

[surreal canyon]

Say what

[grand sun]

@peak terrace you’re cleared for launch! Current proposed route pushes our VTOLs to max speed. Here’s the route Sumer will be attempting.

[surreal canyon]

Understood. Let me quick review orders and positions.

[grand sun]

Got Donner using Advance (for higher damage output) and straying a touch Left of the main caravan, but the bulk are using Evasive (for enhanced defense) and flying just off the caravan’s wings.

Your call, just keep in mind if the end point is crowded, Captain and/or I may have adjust where you end slightly.

[surreal canyon]

Understood.

[peak terrace]

Would you advise I follow the same route?