Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms

[grand sun]

All about playstyles. And while I really want 212th to be a thing, I don't want it to make it at the cost of someone feeling like filler

[limber cape]

yall are tantalizingly close

[grand sun]

We really are...

Which is encouraging

[limber cape]

i think you've done a hell of a job, its just such an uphill battle

[plucky river]

At this point I’m tempted to get a friend to play and just tell them it doesn’t matter what their orders are.

[grand sun]

I'm definitely doing my best without trying to poach. lol

Late start is a heck of a hill

[deep narwhal]

considers going in and talking with other TCOs, and gently prodding them.

[grand sun]

I poked Spearhead early about their plans to rearm their fighters and poked Venator about the same till they asked me to stop.

I've struggled to figure out a lot of the other campaigns and their plans...but I also don't want to pull units from a group that I can't easily support with the 212th

[limber cape]

yeah... are they planning to sortie everytime they want to resupply?

[grand sun]

Part of the "be their sollution" rather than "cause them problems"

[grand sun]

can't sortie without LS. They didn't have a plan, but I also didn't have any wanna join.

I suspect that a lot of these BG fighters will be largely flying empty...but we'll see

[grand sun]

Just be careful that you don't push the point too hard.

[plucky river]

They’ll be flying empty and damaged since they can’t land and repair

It’s going to be lethal for all of them

[deep narwhal]

Yup, just asking some questions on how they will re-arm.

If they can't answer that, I'll push 212.

[grand sun]

Just posting my warning to make sure it's said. lol

[deep narwhal]

Spearhead TCO actually pinged their fighters!

[limber cape]

it'll be interesting. i feel like some BGs have thought about it more than others.

[grand sun]

I guess I had asked at the wrong time initially. lol

[low parcel]

How close are you?

[plucky river]

4-5 away

[cursive rapids]

I believe! If we don't hit the threshold that'll happen?

What*

[low parcel]

You guys will have to find other BGs to join

[onyx bone]

212 won't be a recognized battle group I believe and dissolve with members joining the others

[grand sun]

If we don't hit 15 by the cutoff, then yeah. 212th won't be a thing this campaign and we'll have to join others.

[near thicket]

You could join Flying Shovel, if it comes down to it.

Centrally located, similar mission set.

[grand sun]

We shall see

[onyx bone]

We can cross that bridge if it comes to it. For now, fingers are crossed for the 212th

[cunning shell]

I don’t know what to do

[grand sun]

All we can do is keep being present and active.

At <t:1750456800:t> I'll post my full ad again

Just be watching for new players and for people being concerned about the very issues we address as a BG.

[onyx bone]

You also may want to add how close you are. People may be more willing to join seeing how close you are to the finish line

[grand sun]

Keep an eye out for the response to this as well. Don't add to it since we're on thin ice with them...but watch for a reply in case I miss it.

Current version of both ads include how close we are

ok, going mobile.

[plucky river]

#1382048208192274462 message
@deep narwhal You’re being a little pushy here.
I want the people as much as you do. But double check the word choice.
Otherwise Keep up the good work.

[cunning shell]

Spearhead is responding

Venator responded

[grand sun]

Yeah...drop it with Venator. Not worth dancing that line with them

[cunning shell]

Copy copy

[grand sun]

They have a plan, we'll let them play that out.

[plucky river]

@deep narwhal ^

[grand sun]

They're the the BG that asked me to stop in. We don't have wiggle room there

[deep narwhal]

I'm curious what it is anyways, I want to hear the explaination.

[grand sun]

It's based on the old system, but you aren't going to change their mind

[sweet bramble]

"old system"?

[grand sun]

Again, we are on thin ice there...so you can listen, but no pushing 212th agenda

[grand sun]

BGs splitting off from each other.

I could be wrong tho

I was wrong...it's just odd wording to me

Anyway...I need to go help with the kids.

Just be careful please and don't try to convince them of anything.

[cunning shell]

K

Dang the storm TCO is a monster

[deep narwhal]

Me?

[cunning shell]

Yeah i just watched the exchange play out

My goodness

[cunning shell]

Dude they just realized

[deep narwhal]

... I work in administration, I have to regularily file incident reports and explain paperwork.

[cunning shell]

Dang

You must be very good

[deep narwhal]

At Admin? Middling. Debate helped, though. Makes it easier to recognize when someone is misunderstanding something.

[grand sun]

XSword did ping em, I just wasn’t setup to catch the ones that left for a TF.

212th not being being ground combat focused gives us the logi freedom and the rearming freedom…but it’s a new concept compared to all the previous campaigns.

I’ve done my best to explain that in my ads, but I can’t force my understanding on anyone else.

If people think their plan addresses everything, then we simply must respect their opinions and look elsewhere.

[deep narwhal]

Venator now realizes that they dont' have a plan.

So an opportunity.
I'll work them a bit more first, though.

[grand sun]

👐 I’ve said my peace. Y’all have seen my messages. I’m not the boss. Everyone is free to do as they wish.

[reef niche]

Guh

[grand sun]

(That’s the closest emoji I could find to show that I was staying out of it)

[reef niche]

I'd like to point out while Electro isn't in the loop as i've said I've done everything in my power

I've warned fighters they won't be supplied

I've asked our air units to join the 212th

Mini literally came here from that

[grand sun]

I know you’ve done your best. And this rule about coherency is new. It’s just also part of the 212th’s strength. “We take em to rearm so y’all don’t have to.”

[reef niche]

I know I'm just defending myself a bit as we'd been going over this in Venator chat for the last 30 minutes, only to check here and see that we "don't have a plan"

[deep narwhal]

Got permission to ping, keep tabs on it!

#1382037860277948486 message

[grand sun]

For what it’s worth, I do recognize that Venator’s main plan is unphased. It’s just the rearming bit that isn’t, but you’ve trying addressing that already. I do worry for the HATs, but I understand why y’all are wanting to keep em to keep the supplies on you rather than needing us to bring em to you.

[reef niche]

No I told them to go aswell

I believe it was "addressed to all aerospace units"

[deep narwhal]

Eh well, what's important is that your message is out.

[chilly iris]

Yeah, thank you for that

[reef niche]

Welcome

Anyway yes, Adj I just suggest that you don't say BGs "don't have plans" behind their backs in other chats while literally dicussing their plans with them

It really infantilises my/our efforts to make things work

[grand sun]

You did, yes. I was more meaning the broader. Keeping HATs in house is something I’ve found to be extremely common.

[reef niche]

Ah fair enough, I understand why, they're great for transport

[deep narwhal]

Sorry, that wasn't my intent - I was trying to make them realize that their plan wouldn't work, and I have a habit of making running commentary.

[reef niche]

👍
I'm assuming you're referencing Electro haha

[deep narwhal]

Electro, yes.

[surreal canyon]

How'dy all. I suppose I'm here now. How's it going?

[deep narwhal]

@grand sun here you go!

[grand sun]

I know your goal is to protect HATs. I want to assure you that I have every intention of keeping you with the HATs as often as possible.

[surreal canyon]

Much obliged, to many lost their units in the last campaign due to being immediately shot down.

[chilly iris]

Hey I somehow got two MBTs into Yos's fortress the turn after a LM ran in during C3

[grand sun]

lol, that was awesome to watch!

[surreal canyon]

an excellent maneuver, lucky too.

[grand sun]

We will also be going the path as Venator I believe, so you’ll have the opportunity to provide CAS just as if you were in their BG…except with rearming flexibility

212th really was born to support ground attack BGs by providing a solution to the BG Coherency rule.

[surreal canyon]

that is good to hear, in the long term this system is better off logistically. without being tactically inflexible.

[hidden scaffold]

Oh that is why your callsign seemed familiar!

[grand sun]

I know those here already moved over, but I wanted to make sure the motivation and mission was clear

And if you need it. Here’s the roster

[chilly iris]

Yeah lol

[hidden scaffold]

Also second thought is always Puffin Forest 😅

[cursive rapids]

How're doin?

We*

[deep narwhal]

I committed unspeakable acts of [infohazard redacted], and convinced Venator to let me mass ping their fighters.

[hidden scaffold]

How the hell did you manage that?

[cursive rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-gif-9105461909797368664

[deep narwhal]

Committing unspeakable acts of [redacted] was easy, I'm not sure what your question is- /jk

[surreal canyon]

Oh so it's that kind of battlegroup. Why didn't you tell me sooner XD 😉

[cursive rapids]

What have i gotten myself into...

[deep narwhal]

(I'm not with 212th, actually.)

[cursive rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[hidden scaffold]

Well keep your secrets! 🤣
Either way pretty impressive!

[deep narwhal]

(Again, not with 212th)

[deep narwhal]

Real answer: Used to be in debate, work in Admin filing incident reports and helping people understand our paperwork (which is excessive at times), and moonlighted in Supply and IT.

Just the right set of skills to recognize a logistics problem and articulate how to fix it.

[peak terrace]

Good evening folks, do you mind if I join you all?

[surreal canyon]

Your case was direct and compelling, I find it very hard to argue with facts and logic.

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah that checks out! I definitely see how even my limited knowledge of optimisation helps me understand and plan better for this campaign

[deep narwhal]

Good to see my skills are only slightly rusty.

[grand sun]

Howdy! You sure can!

[deep narwhal]

VTOL?

Nice. Good to see a VTOL!

[peak terrace]

Correct :)

[surreal canyon]

Don't worry, my unit is actually very serious and have made it and actual and unit lore goal to protect the HATs. If I'd made a group unit though... I like flamethrowers

[grand sun]

Welcome to the 212th!

[peak terrace]

Much appreciated

[deep narwhal]

(psst- Throw your name on the signup sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UVWvjkGzI9-J2y_ngahp3tF4NBlBhpk5PwpEnq4ZFb8/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0)

[surreal canyon]

I mean it seemed very official for what basically boils down to hey dumbass you're gonna die.

[deep narwhal]

Sometimes, Ethos and Pathos are the more effective part of a Logos subject.

[cursive rapids]

Only 2 more!

[deep narwhal]

Hey @grand sun here! #1382048208192274462 message

[plucky river]

With a VTOL we can take an infantry

Doesn’t hurt our supplies or speed anymore

[gusty aurora]

Right think my transfers good to go thanks for having me

[plucky river]

Okay

Add your name to the sheet

[plucky river]

Here for reference

[grand sun]

Welcome to the 212th!

[gusty aurora]

thanks I'll do my best to keep the sky clear

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-kruglov-kruglov-stalker-ok-gif-391588752309643144

[grand sun]

That’s our 2nd or 3rd VTOL. Nice!

[deep narwhal]

Dang, aggressively recruiting people is actually kinda fun-

Convincing their BGs that me recruiting their units is good for them is actually even more fun! (It is true, so...)

[plucky river]

We can try and get an infantry unit

They’ll be able to be in a VTOL

[gusty aurora]

they couldn't make an airstrip I need those
also my ego really wants me to get an aceship by the end of this at least wanna try

[grand sun]

Also means we can help transport INF for other BGs and TFs too

[onyx bone]

How y'all doing? Close to the wire?

[deep narwhal]

Yes.

Aggressive recruiting campaigns (consisting of people yelling "TL;DR: you're going to die") has been surprisingly successful.

[grand sun]

1 more and we have it. 2 more and I’d be able to rest easy. lol

[onyx bone]

Good luck!

[grand sun]

Thanks!

[ebon river]

New and improved Logo- take 1

Now to figure out what's making the left two look so horribly imbalanced

[grand sun]

Nice!

[deep narwhal]

Lack of symmetry, and the top of the 2 looking too large.

I'd make it less angular and have the traditional curve of the "2".

[gusty aurora]

nice

[ebon river]

I'd really been hoping to avoid messing with curves

[deep narwhal]

Have a semicircle on the top half as well?

Make it look more like ZIZ.

[ebon river]

Could you sketch out what you mean?

Art is most definitely not my calling

I take the engineering approach of thrashing through iterations until I come up with something that looks right

This?

(Yes, I can make it top-bottom symmetrical)

[grand sun]

Whoop whoop!

Awesome logo and we’ve hit our count as soon as a final transfer happens.

[hidden scaffold]

Well congrats you got official! 🎉

[grand sun]

Welcome @kindred eagle to the 212th!

[onyx bone]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-nageswara-rao-ravi-teja-raviteja-feeding-birds-tiger-nageswara-rao-ravi-teja-gif-12199049670748835973

Happy for you all! Now we don't have to feed supplies to fighters like pigeons

[ebon river]

Here's the symmetrical version

[grand sun]

I didn’t catch all the BG fighters. 😜

[onyx bone]

Yeah, unfortunately there's still some well have to do but happy for your guys regardless

[deep narwhal]

Yes, that's what I meant. Opinions?

[ebon river]

I like it much better

Variant with a slightly thicker 1

[twin girder]

we hit count? nice

[hidden scaffold]

Well sad to say goodbye to you Hoover! I see you at Cross Roads

[plucky river]

We might get more still

[grand sun]

They’ll have your LS, no worries!!

[deep narwhal]

I am not putting in more work, please-

[plucky river]

We need 1 more so I can pop out

[onyx bone]

@hasty garden Just double checking, you're sticking with 212 since it met requirements. We're good to take you off as a provisional member?

[grand sun]

Hoping to see more with the effort that’s been put out and a few more ads. lol

[ebon river]

Here's a nice PNG version of the logo

[hardy owl]

Oh wow, Dave actually managed to pull it off. Nice work guys

Glad our fighters have a home now

[sweet bramble]

So @grand sun , now that y'all are looking to be an official Battlegroup, should we ping @ Dresden to change the name of this channel to BG 14 and avoid confusion about two BG 13s?

Also, congratulations!!

[grand sun]

Glad to be able to keep em repaired, rearmed, and helping to keep everyone around Crossroads as safe as possible

[oblique pecan]

perfection

[ebon river]

Thank you

[oblique pecan]

'think only the one who created the BG comm can modify the name, so that'd be trench i think

[sweet bramble]

Negative. Dresden made this one

[grand sun]

Dres made this one.

[oblique pecan]

a

fuk

I blame that it's 2h50am and that

lemme get the mesg

gaming with 28 fucking degrees (celcius, fahrenheit is 82,4) cooking in the house, i'm sweaty, i'm tired, it's gonna be hell theses following days

[onyx bone]

Did you take a picture of the sun on a Nokia

[oblique pecan]

No, otherwise I'd have taken a picture of your beautiful face

[low parcel]

You made it!

[oblique pecan]

Fuck you, get flirted on. 💪

[low parcel]

Congrats!

[deep narwhal]

~///~

(Secondhand blush)

[onyx bone]

https://tenor.com/view/blushing-gif-gif-2958667716961858831

[oblique pecan]

Get flirted on hehehehehehehe

[deep narwhal]

Go to sleep.

[oblique pecan]

yes mom

[deep narwhal]

... cute.

[plucky river]

I'm concerned by this

[deep narwhal]

By?-

[hardy owl]

What is going on in this channel bro 💀

[surreal canyon]

Love
Hate
War crimes
Flirting
Logistics
Fighters

Did I miss anything?

[deep narwhal]

What specifically?

[plucky river]

yes mom

... cute.

Those together concern me

[hardy owl]

Lol

[deep narwhal]

The unspeakable [redacted], and unit poaching.

And also the logistical fires.

[deep narwhal]

... thinks about it for a moment-

Oops?

... it's better than being told "yes grandma", at least (I can't yet legally drink, I blame my friend).

[surreal canyon]

I thought I got the unspeakable [redacted] with warcrimes oh I see since [redacted] hasn't been classified as ||[redacted]|| yet. It's not classified. It wasn't poaching, it was strategic acquisition.

[plucky river]

I'm still debating whether I want to or not

I want to play both and Victorum doesn't lose my cargo bay anymore. Both options sound like a lot of fun

[grand sun]

Either way, I'd rather make it so you can choose without having having the 212th's roster weighing on your decision. Kinda spoils the "play how you wanna play" mood if there's stuff hanging on your choice

[plucky river]

True

[cunning shell]

whats the news

did we make it

[deep narwhal]

You did!

[sleek cape]

It's exciting!

[cunning shell]

i shed tears of joy

[deep narwhal]

I cry at the amount of effort that this took-

(No comment on joy or sadness)

[cunning shell]

;-; so much effort

[cunning shell]

Thank you for your support and help

[deep narwhal]

Welcome!

(Do continue to yell at aerospace units about how they're going to die a horrible painful death without me, will you?)

(STORM can't be convinced, we're aware of the risks already.)

[cunning shell]

I know the risk to its not good

[fluid carbon]

Hey, congrats on your 15!

Should I take you off our roster @hasty garden ?

[cunning shell]

@grand sun are you taking yourself off the Venator roster

[versed locust]

We’ve done it lads! 15 has been reached!

[cunning shell]

Woah

[versed locust]

Yeah I’m pretty late, aren’t I

[cunning shell]

Yeah

But it’s okay

Nice seeing you again blue

[hasty garden]

Yep, thanks for having me, I'll see you in orbit

[fluid carbon]

Godspeed

[cunning shell]

Planning time team

[limber cape]

212th at 15! congrats! hell yeah!

[grand sun]

Yeah, just haven’t had time yet.

[cunning shell]

Okay just seeing

[grand sun]

Still want a couple more tho

[cunning shell]

Well we have tomorrow to keep recruiting

But we made it woah

[deep narwhal]

Turns out yelling at people is a surprisingly effective recruitment strategy.

[cursive rapids]

Congrats!! Now comes the fun part. Just gotta wait for intel

[plucky river]

Normally I would say yelling at people doesn’t make them your friend.

Somehow you have made it work

[cunning shell]

I refuse to wait I want to make a backup plan

But yeah we have no choice but wait

[deep narwhal]

... now that I think about it, I think I also accidentally implied some insults as well-

[grand sun]

Fortunately, our plan is relatively simple until the other BGs start needing help

My thoughts on how we go about things.

• Grab a LS from orbital Picket Line in TF Atlas over** Elim City** (Hoover will carry it with us)
• Assist with pushing toward Crossroads
• Mimic BG Flying Shovels movement until we deliver the LS
• start supporting those around Crossroads.

[cunning shell]

One step at a time

[grand sun]

@violet sparrow we made it! Looking for a few more to give wiggle room for a couple that were mainly joining just to get us to 15.

[violet sparrow]

I wasn't worried 😉

[grand sun]

lol, I was starting to.

212th, I got the logo Tydeus made added

[cunning shell]

Dang Dresden really gambling here

[grand sun]

lol, he told everyone he didn't need a backup from the start.

[cunning shell]

Man is a freaking psychopath

Risks 5 req on hopes and dreams

[violet sparrow]

I don't believe I said that 😝

I just said I wasn't worried.

If it didn't work out, I would have looked into another's Battlegroup then. I just figured it was likely it would work out

[grand sun]

eh "didn't need one" and "cross that bridge if we get to it" are basically the same 😜

[violet sparrow]

Whatever makes you feel better lol

[cunning shell]

How much req do you have Dresden

[violet sparrow]

Currently 0

[cunning shell]

What have you spent it on

[violet sparrow]

All that. A lot into the medics to make them ODTs

None of which is cheap lol

[cunning shell]

Ah that makes sense then

Do we have a orbital backup on the move to Elim city

Because if they have a heavy drop pod bay we light mechs could drop freeing up more room for supplies

It’s only a suggestion

[grand sun]

Gotcha!

[cunning shell]

Definitely not wanting make a excuse to get out of riding with a HAT

[grand sun]

I haven't checked the TF plans recently, but we'll likely have one nearby at least.

[grand sun]

If I understand how things would be working, we're on the Automated Freighters unless we're feeling daring enough to be more targetable pre-deployment.

[cunning shell]

Okay then

[grand sun]

Once we deploy, we'll see. I need to look at Shovel's plan again to see how they're planning to go to Crossroads.

Y'all can run almost as fast as us VTOLs can fly. So the only reason to load y'all is if we're trying to take an air only route.

[cunning shell]

Look we can’t skip leg day for this one mission

Even though I’m not using my actual legs

[grand sun]

Mech legs mater

ok, I'm off for the night and be mobile for the weekend. Ping me if you need me or need me to see something. I'll petition for a #1327290771048628278 channel tomorrow.

[hidden scaffold]

That will be quite a big air convoy flying from Elim to Cross Roads!

[hidden scaffold]

@twin girder Thank you for already doing the work on the Shovel sheet!

[nimble haven]

Are you all still looking for some more people to sign up?

[grand sun]

Absolutely!!

We hit 15, but I’d love to have more if there’s anyone interested in participating with the 212th’s mission.

[plucky river]

We can take some infantry units. But they might not have as much fun being in a transport for a long time

[grand sun]

I figure engi and medic could have work and be a mobile response. Most boots might struggle a bit to enjoy the logi life tho.

[nimble haven]

Well, I'll see if French can find another person to take my place as the backup TAC-COM before I sign up

[hidden scaffold]

Well that is two units unless you get more VTOLs

[grand sun]

1. Don’t feel pressured, but we’d happily welcome you into the 212th.
2. You could backup TCO for them even if you aren’t in the same BG.

[nimble haven]

Ah, I can? Good to know

[grand sun]

Yeah. If we got both.

[oblique pecan]

wait she can ?

[grand sun]

Unless something changed, we had several TCOs in C3 that weren’t in the same BG

[oblique pecan]

oh neat.

[plucky river]

Yep you just need to take care of it

[oblique pecan]

Well welcome to the 212th Vivian I guess. 🤣

[hidden scaffold]

I did the same for Special Delivery last campaign

[plucky river]

@grand sun Who's your second?

[oblique pecan]

Sad to see you leave but can't keep you 'ere against your will, thanks for helping with numbers and everything 👀

[nimble haven]

Hmm... Should I put TF2 or BG12 as my original BG/TF...

[grand sun]

As in the backup TCO? Tydeus.

[rose knot]

Both, make the longest, most complex username ever.

[nimble haven]

Well, Medic reporting for duty

[grand sun]

You coming from Hammer, so but BG12

[oblique pecan]

TF2 -> BG12 -> BG14, I'm hype to see your next switch 🤣

[onyx bone]

Sad TF2 Noises

[grand sun]

It’s kinda my way of making sure we service the groups we got members from with the type we’re pulling.

[oblique pecan]

BET, WE GOTTA PLUG IN MORE BG12 TO GET MORE HELP

ITS JUST LIKE GAMBLING

[nimble haven]

Well, it does say original... And TF2 was my first one, so I'll keep it as TF2

[rose knot]

Vivian’s_battlegroup: “ALL”

[oblique pecan]

PAY MORE TO WIN MORE

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[rose knot]

It’s… spreading

[oblique pecan]

lots from bg2 & bg6 it seems.

[hasty garden]

@nimble haven welcome, I was going to be pulling medevac duty with atlas if this failed, happy to do the same here

[grand sun]

My whole thing was making sure we didn’t cause holes, so I wanted a way to make sure I covered any I “made”.

[nimble haven]

Though I may consider joining a bit more, unsure if I want to be a part of BG14 or BG12

I may need to consult the dice

@oblique pecan, highs or lows?

[oblique pecan]

high

[nimble haven]

Right, the dice says iron hammers

And tbh, I probably will have more fun there tbh 😅

[keen vault]

Jesus Vivian

[versed locust]

A new record!

[nimble haven]

Or maybe not, who knows!

[oblique pecan]

What so you're back ?

[grand sun]

That’s Venator and Spearhead, right? They were specifically spoken too for fighter rearming.

[nimble haven]

Idfk what I am

[oblique pecan]

I DONT KNOW EITHER

If you don't know, I don't know either ma'am ! 🤣

[grand sun]

Thanks for considering us at least. Haha

[rose knot]

So is that TF2 -> BG12 -> BG13 -> BG12?

[oblique pecan]

Yes ??????

Utterly confused now.

Too much gambling going on.

[nimble haven]

I'm always confused

[grand sun]

😅 and I’m on mobile, so I’m struggling to keep up a bit more than if I was on a computer.

[rose knot]

Whelp, pulls out ARMCOmon

[keen vault]

Morning 212th, Draketa reporting for duty

[gusty aurora]

morning draketa

[grand sun]

Welcome! We now have a group of 3 LMs.

I’ll remove the asterisks by your name since you’re confirming your switch.

[oblique pecan]

Don't you guys dare harm my boy !

3rd one to join the BG, feels sad to see him go here but it needs to be for 212th logi to be a thing

[grand sun]

I’ll also be announcing the 212th in TCO comms and ask for an order channel (tho we won’t actually be deploying until next week I believe)

[grand sun]

I’ll take care of the 212th best I can. No worries!

[grand sun]

3rd one?

I only have 1 BG12 on my roster.

lol, I can take more tho if you are still trying to keep your count down for deployment.

[oblique pecan]

Nono, 3rd one to join Iron Hammer

...I like keeping track of things 😅

[keen vault]

Yeah i joined about as soon as it was created

[oblique pecan]

He even edited stuff in the sheet too

oh wait shit she

sorry

[keen vault]

🤦‍♀️

[oblique pecan]

I only now realized I'm sorry I keep saying "he" instead of "she" each time because I'm like "ah yes, edited, that is a male username" ffs

SEE, THIS IS WHY 212TH IS BETTER FOR YOU 🤣

[grand sun]

Oh!! lol, I thought you meant the 3rd to transfer here.

[gusty aurora]

any of the other fighters join me

[grand sun]

From Spearhead? PedroGW is here too.

[gusty aurora]

alright that's at least 2 so we can at least pull a danger zone

[grand sun]

212th currently has 4 fighters. 1 fresh, 1 from Venator (the others had actually already joined TFs), and y’all 2 from Spearhead.

[chilly iris]

Would you like a backup-backup TCO?

[grand sun]

If you wanna mess around with some of that stuff, it’s fine by me. I know there will be a week in July and a week in August that I’ll have limited/no access to map making stuff.

[chilly iris]

I’ll be able to use TTS for most of my maps, otherwise I’ll be using GIMP

Just waiting for a map…

[grand sun]

Perfect. You TCO before?

[chilly iris]

No lol

[grand sun]

@ebon river we now have a “backup-backup”.

[ebon river]

Excellent

[grand sun]

lol, good learning experience then.

Captain only keeps track of the primary TCO and the Backup, but having more than 1 can help lighten loads and provide more fail safes.

[chilly iris]

Roger that, thanks for having me

[hidden scaffold]

There is also a doc with some advice on being a TCO pinned in https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382781756989767692

[chilly iris]

Do we have a particular order format our BG will be following?

[grand sun]

Thank you for mentioning that one. It’s got great stuff for TCOs regardless of experience level.

[grand sun]

I believe I remember Captain having a format this time around. @hidden scaffold Shovels taking the automated freighters to Elim for the initial deployment?

[hidden scaffold]

Uhh I think so

[grand sun]

We’ll be following this same system and format…just our own channel.

[hidden scaffold]

Could of course also fly with the HATs but that seems to be too dangerous and unnecessary all things considered

[grand sun]

I knew y’all could self-deploy, as could we…but I agree about taking the freighters in. Just want to make sure we’re mirroring y’all so you aren’t having to wait on the LS.

[kindred eagle]

[cursive rapids]

Speak for yourself I fly for Valhalla!

[gusty aurora]

nono that's what I'm here to avoid

[gusty aurora]

Also I don't need to say I'm in 212th until my first order?
the S.A.M says I'm active in lumeria so that's good right?

[hidden scaffold]

Jup

SAM doesn't need to know in which BG you are

[cunning shell]

We go forth for victory

[grand sun]

All SAM cares about is your unit exists and it’s active in this campaign. BGs aren’t in the bot

TF/BG membership is where the google sheets come in and the forum channels.

[cunning shell]

Make sure your on the 212th sign up sheet for the battle group and your unit is active

[grand sun]

I went through the roster last night and confirmed that everyone had their unit active.

[sweet bramble]

Should we ping @violet sparrow to rename this to Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms or should we switch Storm's to BG3/14?

[violet sparrow]

You ask if you should ping me....while pinging me 🤣

I love it

[grand sun]

I’d say have it match our order channel (which doesn’t exist last I checked)

[sweet bramble]

I meant to add a space between @ and 'd'.
I just want to avoid having there be two BG 13s
-# by the way, 2 + 12 = 14

[violet sparrow]

There are not two 13s? Did I miss a channel?

[grand sun]

Storm Blessed is 3/13 with their split. I didn’t care what BG number we were cause all I cared was we hit our minimum, keep this channel (since we’ve been chatting here), and are the 212th Logi Branch. lol

[cursive rapids]

Are there any other large logi groups?

[sweet bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382040199797801031

https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1384286773068435587

[grand sun]

DK has a branch and Storm has a branch. I think we’re all small tho and Storm is more just mobility.

[cursive rapids]

The way they wrote it is like a marine battalion. Like 3rd battlegroup 13th something "the storm blessed"... that's wierd

[violet sparrow]

I believe that was made because 3 and 13 were gonna be working close together

Its fine 😉

[cursive rapids]

So were the only one dedicated to actual logistics as opposed to force mobility

[onyx bone]

If you count a TF than Atlas

[hidden scaffold]

I mean Shovel could count as one. We have a similar supply capacity like you do

[versed locust]

Well, I mean we can kinda be both if you think about it. Although yes we are heavy logi focus

[grand sun]

there are several that could be considered logi groups.

[kindred eagle]

I was re-reading the rules and i want to clarify this, does the aerospace fighter need to land to reload or can It reload its weapon midflight?

[hidden scaffold]

DF split one part off as a dedicated logi group. But it's A.O. is around the fighting force

[grand sun]

Gotta land in an activated airfield or flight deck.

[versed locust]

Must be landed. No pit crew in space (we don’t have enough samples to get that upgrade yet)

[grand sun]

Naw. Storm split but wanted to keep a shared channel. Same as DF

DF being 4/10

[cursive rapids]

Looking through the other logi groups as I can see. We hold the vast majority of the campaigns heavy lift capacity between us and the shovels well be setting up alot of the infrastructure as opposed to mobility

[oblique pecan]

BG10 will always be Hiking Trip 2 in my heart.

ALSO FUN FACT

we has the logi truck for orbital supply drop

is nice.

[sweet bramble]

Nope.
That was because Storm has two BGs, similar to BG 4 Dwarf Fortress and BG 10 Dwarven Merchants https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382040428945211462
The Storm Blessed⚡ is having two BGs, BG 3 Tempest🌩️ and BG Tremor🌋 (which can be either BG 13 or BG 14 but shouldn't be the same as the 212th Logi)
Neither Storm in general nor Tempest/Tremor in particular are intending to work especially close with the 212th Logi versus any other BG so it doesn't actually make sense to name us 3/13 as if we are conjoined linked up with the 212th.

TLDR; Please for sake of clarity, would you rename either https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382040199797801031 to Battlegroup 3/14 - The Storm Blessed: Comms or https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1384286773068435587 to Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms

[violet sparrow]

Ah

Then they would need to be 14

Unless AutoDave just wants this to be changed to 14. I don't care either way

[grand sun]

I’m fine just being 14. lol, it’s just a number

The channel history and battle group’s actual name are all I actually care about with all this

[sweet bramble]

The 212th is currently lablled BG 14 in the Ops Log so 🤷‍♂️
I just don't want people to say "BG 13" and have both Storm and the 212th respond. Potentially leads to confusion.

[oblique pecan]

In my heart, Dwarven merchants are BG 15, and BG 10 is our glorious Helios Mirror 2 operation.

[sweet bramble]

@violet sparrow final ping I promise.
Looks like renaming https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1384286773068435587 to Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms is good

[violet sparrow]

Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms

[cunning shell]

Yay

[versed locust]

Man got to change our names now to say bg14. Whatever will we do?

[grand sun]

lol, those who have BG13 in your nickname do one of the following:

• change to BG14
• change to 212th

[nimble haven]

Should've clearly been BG 212 :p

[grand sun]

😜 roster is still unlocked.

[versed locust]

Man the name length is trolling me. I’m literally one letter short of fitting in 212 Logi 🤣

[cunning shell]

You’re name is so long already

[versed locust]

Ehhh, I think it’s just the capital letter that make it seem that long. In technicality it only has one extra character than Dave’s

The “AutoDave” vs “LAFLOL231” part of the name at least. The name looks quite short when lowercased. Case and point
LAFLOL231
laflol231
I might be making a mountain out of molehill here 😅

[cunning shell]

It does shorten it when lowercase it’s so funny

[versed locust]

I just realized we have 3 mechs but only 2 HVTOLs, meaning one mech is going to be stuck on an HAT while the other 2 can deploy from the HVTOLs. Do you think there is any chance we could get another HVTOL or do you think we’re out of luck?

[cunning shell]

Not unless our little VTOL friend adds a H to their unit

[versed locust]

Man that’s kinda bad game wise too, since it means if the mech deployed from the airfield they would have to stay close to it or they would be forced to sprint back when we have to pack up and leave, which would delay our response time

[cunning shell]

We can move at speed 4

Us mech jockeys have been training for the dead sprints

[versed locust]

That means you would either have to stay within 3.5 movement from the airfield, or be able to know that you can safely maneuver back with a range of 7 movement

Actually, saying that out loud kinda makes it seem less of an issue. Annoying? sure, but not as bad as I was originally thinking

[cunning shell]

Well be fine

Just make sure not to get hit we can’t lose any of you glorious HATs

More supplies means happier customers

[deep narwhal]

So pick a side, RED OR BLU!

[cunning shell]

Red

[deep narwhal]

Correct. That's 7/8 last min recruits

[onyx bone]

Always Red

[cunning shell]

See

Red teams the best

[grand sun]

Well initially Hoover is reserved for a LS and I’ve got a bunker. It’s either walking the road or all 3 are in HATs.

[deep narwhal]

... are you going to bring a bunker?

[grand sun]

Sumer has a prefab bunker latched.

Current plan is I’ll carry it to Crossroads and deploy it by the airfield to help fortify it.

[cursive rapids]

Well if we got plenty of anything its HATs

[versed locust]

Can you fill the bunker with the supplies equivalent of 12fs carry capacity or can it only house infantry?

[grand sun]

🤣 we do have an impressive carry capacity given our size.

[cursive rapids]

If we can get volunteers to fill the bunker i think that'd be better

[grand sun]

It’s basically just a deployable building. Same thing as if there was a structure on map. Gives INF inside +1 armor.

[cursive rapids]

I doubt the crossroads airfield will be uncontested for long

[grand sun]

The INF Box and SS Box are on my list once I get more req

[versed locust]

So you can’t fill it with supplies and drop an enormous shipping container filled with supplies on the battlefield? Dang, that would be really cool

[grand sun]

😜 that’d be the SS Box

[cursive rapids]

We can always just paradrop them in another HAT

And additional supplies in another or w.e is needed

[chilly iris]

Hey, don’t knock it till you try it

Blitzkrieging civvy locations for evac will go hard

[cursive rapids]

Im down to clown

[grand sun]

Once we get to Crossroads with Flying Shovels, Hoover will drop off the LS and Sumer will drop off the bunker.

After that we’ll be largely open. I think we’d mostly be taking ground paths, but if we needed to take an air path than we could carry 2 and have the 3rd in a HAT. (Current numbers of course)

[cursive rapids]

What would we be moving exactly?

[grand sun]

Atlas and Flying Shovels both have HATs to be able to keep the airfield going as long as they’re both at the Crossroads strategic point…but we could aid in that with our HATs and HVTOLs as well. We’ll just have to remain fluid as the situation develops.

[grand sun]

I suspect mainly Small Supply…but we’ll just have to see.

[cursive rapids]

Hurry uo and wait I suppose haha

[grand sun]

We have the transports to be able to aid in troop movement and recovery as well, so there may be some of that too.

[cursive rapids]

That'll require more airfields

Shovels will be busy

[grand sun]

Basically. lol, most of the BGs are sitting and waiting for more intel. We’re kinda waiting for them to be in need of our assistance. lol

[grand sun]

They maybe, but we do have 2 VTOLs and 2 HVTOLs if it was a small unit count needing to be relocated.

(Missed that reply ping)

[cursive rapids]

Love how the campaigns ended up with more HATs than VTOLs lol

[grand sun]

I didn’t pay attention to Atlas’ aerospace force or what the other TF’s had in the way of aerospace and drop troops…so idk about that either.

[cursive rapids]

Thought I saw a roster somewhere that said as much in chat

[grand sun]

HATs are powerful! Even with the landing limitation.

[cursive rapids]

Very much so! But with so few airfield engineers we could get bottlenecked quick if were not careful

[grand sun]

The new Logi truck airdrop coordination helps a bit for the supply side

[grand sun]

But the bottlenecking could be real. Especially on the flight deck if it still has the limit. Means if you wanna land on an orbital, you could be fighting fighters for the spot in the queue.

[cursive rapids]

Agreed. Getting a couple stocked airfields set up might be a priority just in case a major event eats through alot of expendable resources in a short period of time

Even if its just for emergencies

[grand sun]

I think airfields have unlimited landing space, but BEARDS may do more. Trick is just the LS consumption. Costs LS to build and keep active.

[cursive rapids]

There's also sortee times the further out we push the longer its gonna take for air assets to rearm

[grand sun]

Fortunately even at speed 4 we can reach just about any point on the planet in a round from Crossroads. For the extra remote, speed 5 and air routes puts us about anywhere as long as we’re bypassing combat.

That speed difference is also why I’m not as worried about needing to keep the LMs loaded up.

We only lose 1 speed by them running their legs and Crossroads has land paths to most of where I’ve seen BGs heading.

[cursive rapids]

Nice! I didn't realize the actual map tiles are shoen how is that shown here?

[grand sun]

I believe, though now I can’t remember if there was confirmation, that:

• solid are ground paths
• dots are aerospace
• and the dashes were designed to be orbital

[plucky river]

For intinal Deployment I think we want to bottle them up so we can skip past L-H

[hidden scaffold]

No clue on that one. That is a BG decision

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah that is right

[grand sun]

That’s one of the situations I could definitely see us loading up for. I’ll be looking at the intel and what some of the other BGs are planning to do. Us skipping L-H doesn’t have the same benefit if combat forces and the Shovels aren’t doing the same.

[plucky river]

True. If Flying shovels is then we can help them

[grand sun]

Yep yep. Until we deliver the LS and Bunker, I had figured we’d mirror their movements.

[plucky river]

Makes perfect sense

[cunning shell]

So what are we packing up

I got food,water and I think some shovels

But what do you think they need

[chilly iris]

I have plane

[plucky river]

Coffee and extra medical supplies

[cunning shell]

Copy copy

Hmmmm what about the bagels

Or the ammunition

[hidden scaffold]

uhh I like bagels 🥯

[grand sun]

Gotta keep the one with the airfield blueprints happy. 😆

[ebon river]

Do y'all know if there's a way for me to mute the rest of the server while leaving this channel on?

[plucky river]

You can mute channels

Right click and mute until you turn it back on

[ebon river]

So I'd have to do each of them individually?

That's annoying

I guess I'll leave it unmuted for the duration of the op

[cursive rapids]

We can put those on the bombers. .one part bombs for the enemy and bagels for the boys on the way back

[plucky river]

I think you can set your notifications different

Let me check

You can do it per category

[cunning shell]

Which task force are we working with

[plucky river]

Flying Shovels first

Then we pick and choose as people need supplies

[kindred eagle]

So, what will be our mission/stratrgy in the upcoming battle? Since I'll be using a fighter, I believe I'll be escorting someone?

[cunning shell]

Ok I’ll send them the list

[cunning shell]

You should be running escort for the HATs and our strategy is to run supplies to the frontlines from the crossroads

[kindred eagle]

[cunning shell]

As far as I know

[cursive rapids]

That's the gist of it

[cunning shell]

I delivered the list

[kindred eagle]

Does we already have a Mission Order chat?

[cunning shell]

Not yet it seems

[hasty garden]

Dropping some preliminary RP here in the absence of an orders channel:

static "This the correct comm channel? Ah, excellent. This is WO Campbell of the VTOL Cleaver, reporting in to other 212th elements. My crew has completed preflight checks and are squared for liftoff. Bloody kind of HQ to finally give us the go-ahead. We will be on extended downtime until we hit dirtside. Over and out."

[violet sparrow]

@grand sun are we planning on actually landing round 1?
If so, I will make the Orders channel. Otherwise there really is no need for it yet

[plucky river]

Dave said we aren’t deploying T1.
We can if the fighters really want to. But you’ll be limited to 1 attack until fluffle or another TF lets you rearm

[surreal canyon]

as a fighter, looking at what we know, how bout no. t2 at the earliest, that way we can hopefully not die.

but that's just my opinion.

[cunning shell]

I go turn 2

[plucky river]

If we're not going T2 we can pick when to deploy

[grand sun]

Naw, it can definitely wait. I don’t think there’s any reason for the 212th to deploy ahead of the supplies.

[cunning shell]

pushes a pack of Yerba into a crate

Shovels want this

Who’s going to show up on turn two

Isn’t like Storm and us at this point in time

[hasty garden]

Atlas and Hammer as well I think

[cunning shell]

Sweet

Were all in this together

: D so much fun

[sweet bramble]

Fluffle and Storm turn 1
Atlas and Hammer turn 2
Victorum and Rabbit turn 3
Everyone else "turn whenever we take the starport"

Shovels and 212th, whenever the coast is clear

[gusty aurora]

curious does armco have any specific regulations for becoming an ace or can I just use the standard 5 air to air

[sweet bramble]

Probably just standard

[grand sun]

Last I heard, Shovels was planning to take the freighters down for safety. We could go ahead of them, but I don’t see much of a reason to. Almost all of the BGs will be turn 3, and those going before will have TF support.

I don’t think we have to declare whether we go Automated or Self Deploy until closer since we aren’t planning to exit the gate this round anyway.

I see the potential for T3 us to maybe self deploy since the freighters are so slow…but for me, that’d depend on what the first waves find and what progress they make.

[grand sun]

@cunning shell we’re <BG14> or <212th> now. 😜

(Formatted to match how you have it displaying)

[cunning shell]

Yay

How about now

I’ve packed everything shovel want

[grand sun]

We may end up with a shovel transfer…we’ll see.

[grand sun]

Kinda cramped in your LM now, isn’t it?

[cunning shell]

Nope

[grand sun]

Nice!

[cunning shell]

I put in your cargo hold

[grand sun]

Gah! That space was for extra coffee and chocolate stashes.

[deep narwhal]

*See above joke

[sleek cape]

We talked about first snacks, yes. But what about second snacks?

[grand sun]

…wait…y’all were joking about that?

(Moves stash behind my HVTOL crew)

[cunning shell]

Dave you have to share

It’s only fair

[cunning shell]

Nope

[deep narwhal]

... I mean, small supply can be used to:

Resurrect PAI
Heal people
Repair vehicles
Make sandbags
Make razor wire
Make tank traps
Build Bridges
Fire artillery
Refuel vehicles
Rearm vehicles
Rearm PAI
Lay anti-inf mines
Lay EMP mines

And probably more.
It's reasonable to conclude there's at least some snacks in them

[hasty garden]

Don't touch the peanuts! Those are to restock my seat pockets

[cunning shell]

Dave is worried about his coffee

[grand sun]

I can’t help it. Haha

[cunning shell]

Yes you can

[cunning shell]

I promise I’ll make sure to get you a good coffee and chocolate okay

[violet sparrow]

I was sure that was the case, but didn't want to just assume

[grand sun]

Thankfully it looks like at least most of the 212th agree too. Haha, which is a relief

[grand sun]

I do appreciate you being willing to do it if we were planning to do something like that.

[cunning shell]

Anymore new recruits

[grand sun]

I haven’t seen any, but getting at least 1 more is important.

[cunning shell]

K

[forest olive]

Hey I can be whatever you guys need most and I'm happy to TC/learn to TC

[hasty garden]

sweet as, we can use a few things really

[forest olive]

any recs ?

[hasty garden]

Be whatever you want, my thoughts are: vtol or HAT if you want to fly stuff around, engineer or medic that the vtols can fly where needed, fighter if you want to provide cover to the aircraft

[cunning shell]

Do whatever you want to

[gusty aurora]

there a place to look over for ourselves?

[dapper quartz]

Just checking in, apparently you need some more folks and some of the Shovels have suggested me and my wing-sapient (fighters) could transfer over.

[hasty garden]

Always welcome, with us you'll never want for ammo

Regarding numbers, we are at our 15, but with one member who would rather be elsewhere if we can find a replacement, so really up to you

[forest olive]

Whats the member wanting to be replaced ?

[hasty garden]

the HAT with the asterisked name in the roster. They don't have to be replaced by another HAT, the important part is we have at least 15 members at the end of recruitment

[forest olive]

@dapper quartz Hey are you signing up here ? I'm happy to be here as a fighter or help the pathfinders as a VTOL if your signing up here for air cover I might head over to the pathfinders

or if we both sign up the BG will have 6 fighters which is also really good

[dapper quartz]

Maybe. I'm not sure yet.

FWIW I'd be transferring over from the Flying Shovels, which will be providing the airfield.

[forest olive]

Fair, its tough cause air to air combat will be all about team work as fighters only have 1 shot so anything requireing more will need to be done in wings

[hidden scaffold]

I would recommend getting a unit and activating it at the latest in the next 3-4 hours. Shack wanted to close the sign ups already yesterday but seems like other stuff came up

[dapper quartz]

Just for my own convenience... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UVWvjkGzI9-J2y_ngahp3tF4NBlBhpk5PwpEnq4ZFb8/edit?usp=sharing

[somber apex]

waddup

6 Fighters overall, nice
an entire squadron (or something what that is called)

[dapper quartz]

[RP] Back on new 'alfsho', a wing was s'ppost t'be twelve.
'Coūse, akchualli' buyin' stuff was ixpensiv, s' when the roy'ls wonnid a lāgë aī fōce, they spli' us in't smallë wings. I'm more thn yuust t'flyin' in squadjr'ns 'v foū times two. [/RP]

[hasty garden]

@plucky river We're at 17 now so you can transfer if you want

[somber apex]

[RP] Ah. Right. Yes! I fully understand! I definitely agree. boneless wings are just less fun to eat after all! [/RP]

[dapper quartz]

Would you like a translation?

[somber apex]

nah I can read it :x

[plucky river]

Perfect
I’ll just delete my name from the sheet

[cunning shell]

I’ll salute you and thank you for coming here 🫡

[grand sun]

Thank you for being one of the first on the list.

Welcome @somber apex and @dapper quartz ! Thank you for transferring. It was like 3:30-4a for me, so I’m sorry for the delayed greeting.

As they’ve said, the 212th will be spending a lot of time with the Shovels (we’ll be mirroring them moving to Crossroads) but will ultimately be servicing those inside and nearby Crossroads.

[cunning shell]

Welcome to the 212th 🎉

[plucky river]

Farewell my Logi friends and may AA not grace your wings

[cunning shell]

Will be fine

[cunning shell]

Great we have 6 fighters now

[grand sun]

Not a bad looking mix. We should be able to help the other BGs with this mix.

[hidden scaffold]

Interesting thing only one fighter in Spearhead and two in the logi group of DF remain in other BGs (and one undecided).
Otherwise all fighters are concentrated in the 212th and the TFs

[cunning shell]

This makes it safer for the HATs and anyone we help

[chilly iris]

I sure do feel safe

[grand sun]

I mean, it makes sense. Didn’t realize DF only had 2 tho.

[oblique pecan]

Recon, AA, Logi, noice.

2 HVTOLs is nice to see aswell

[keen vault]

Glad to see we’re up to 16

[grand sun]

The HVTOLs should be available for vehicles once we hit Crossroads. 1 will be hauling the LS for the airfield construction, the other a bunker to help fortify the airfield.

[grand sun]

It was a nice surprise to wake up to.

[cunning shell]

We can fighter spam now

[keen vault]

Wow also just realized we’re a speed 4 force, that’s sweet

[hasty garden]

Yep, 5 if we transport the mechs

[cunning shell]

Like always say we never skip leg day to keep up

[keen vault]

Yep lol, gotta go fast

[grand sun]

Speedy supply delivery

[grand sun]

To be fair, I’m anticipating that there’s a lot of units that’ll need fighter assistance pushing to/through Crossroads.

I think I remember both Redwall and Venator having 1x Quad AA MBT each and maybe some sierra missiles…

[deep narwhal]

This your motto?

"Same Day Delivery"

[sweet bramble]

And Storm

[vocal ferry]

Good Morning to the 212th! New LM player here, looking for a BG. Logistics are the lifeblood of a military organization and keeping our planes in the sky is an important role. That said, making sure our supply trains dont get their shit pushed in is mission critical. I was wondering if you have room for another LM in your plans for this upcoming Op and how you might utilize the BG's LM's

[plucky river]

@grand sun ^
We've got 3 and will happily take you if another BG doesn't want you.
We're focused on transporting supplies and LMs are fast enough not hurt our speeds.
You might be locked into a HAT for a few rounds before the airfield gets built just to allow us to take an aerospace path on the strategic map.
If that's okay. I think you're welcome to the team.

[grand sun]

Howdy! I’m a bit limited on access during the weekend.

We’d be happy to have you if you’re interested in serving in a logi BG. We do have 3 other LMs with us, so you’d be running with them while on the ground.

We’ll be mirroring the Flying Shovels until the airfield is setup in Crossroads, so I don’t really know yet if you’d be loaded in a HAT for that trip or taking the ground route.

[vocal ferry]

Perfect, I'm in conversations with Phalanx and Pathfinders atm, I'll get back to you guys in...idk, soon? and let you know where I land, logistic support wins wars after all.

[grand sun]

Just remember that it’s all about choosing the group that sounds like they’re gonna be the most fun to you.

😜 and I definitely agree about the logi support importance.

[plucky pagoda]

Hopping here for a bit, Do remember to update the Ops Log if there's anything that needs updating about the BG.

[grand sun]

I’m on mobile till tomorrow, but I could check it. Looked like people were watching us closely and updating it last I looked. Lol

👍 Ops Log looks to have current info for the 212th

[limber cape]

looking good, 212th. That's a nice fighter wing you've got there. very nice.

[grand sun]

Should have solid protection for our HATs and be able to assist other BGs with air support as well. I had hoped for more logi units, but this is about where I expected for fighter count considering the area...but I really was only watching the rosters of Venator, Red wall (which is all ground assets), and Spearhead.

[vocal ferry]

I'm going to go with the Pathfinders, looks to me like they could use a LM or three and someone has to be the first.

[grand sun]

We’ll be seeing you out there then.

@hidden scaffold has been working up a bunch of graphs…but I snagged this one (with their permission) to share with y’all.

Of note, the supply capacity numbers are for if the transports are empty…so most of these would be speed 1 unless they took a hit on capacity to speed up. 212th’s speed while at full supply capacity is 4 and we only lose 10 small supply capacity for us to be able to take airborne routes and move speed 5 once the HVTOLs are available.

[dapper quartz]

Hey, quick question: Are we getting a Mission Orders channel of our own?

[grand sun]

Absolutely! Captain made a bunch initially, but it was pre splits and pre 212th being recognized. But since we’re not exiting the gate this round anyway, it isn’t urgent for our channel to be created.

We will have our own orders channel in time for us to get orders in when it’s our time for orders.

(I know that kinda went in circles, but that’s the best way I can explain it)

[dapper quartz]

It's fine, I get it.

[keen vault]

They need LM? Man their sheet says they don’t

[vocal ferry]

Southpaw left LM's off the sheet for some reason, but the Pathfinders were looking at LM's speed and their ability to be evasive and were asking why they didn't have any. Boiled down to because they didn't have any and it's a risk to the sole LM and while desireable to the BG, tactically advantantagous to LM pilots to link up with other LM units. So I was like, hey, even if I die I get paid enough to have some sweet swag next op

[keen vault]

Ah

[grand sun]

Makes sense to me…except them leaving those off their list.

[sleek cape]

Yeah, we dunno why. It's a mystery... for probably 6 more hours

[oblique pecan]

ahem
More like an Iron Hammer dude suddenly questionning why Pathfinders were not taking light mech, despite them being just light vehicles but armored & still with evasive.
Thus leading to questionning and HEY mrblue's in pathfinders now. 🤣

[grand sun]

Only unit I left off of ours was the normal arty cause I didn’t want a speed 1 vehicle that sets up to fire. Didn’t match the vision

[sleek cape]

Hey, excuse, the rest of us were considering him just fine beforehand

We just needed to ask Southpaw, which we still do

[oblique pecan]

MrBlue with the popcorn 🤣

[versed locust]

I mean, who would turn down some popcorn? 🍿

[nimble haven]

Me :p

[versed locust]

Oh.. uh… dang

[plucky river]

Why?

[nimble haven]

I dunno

I've just never liked popcorn

[plucky river]

Hmmm

[sleek cape]

I'll trade my choco ration for your popcorn ration

[plucky river]

You have a chocolate ration?

[sleek cape]

Pathfinder eats well

[plucky river]

Man, I’m the QM for TF Victorum, and we don’t have supplies beyond nutricubed, MBT cannon ammo, and airplane fuel

[sleek cape]

We have a bit extra because of our emotional support mutalett program

Mental health services are lucrative

[somber apex]

I got an emotional support lollipop from the Engineering Battlegroup I transfered over from 😊 🍭

[nimble haven]

Damn, chocolate and popcorn rations? Here in ironhammers we get gambling rations

[deep narwhal]

Infantry wins battles.
Logistics wins wars.

[kindred eagle]

Should i know something about the lasts campaings? Since i am starting in campaing 5

[hidden scaffold]

Lore or unwritten rules?

[deep narwhal]

See the message about what SS can do
#1384286773068435587 message

[kindred eagle]

Both?

[hidden scaffold]

Ironic that 8 out of 12 are engineer specific

[hidden scaffold]

Well the first one that comes first to mind is no editing of orders.
If you want to change sth you need to delete the old one and repost

[kindred eagle]

This is good to know

[hidden scaffold]

Taccoms aren't commanders. We are just order checkers that compile it for easier readability for Shack

[kindred eagle]

[chilly iris]

Here's a quick group picture/sneak peek of the TTS stuff I'll be doing for our group

[hasty garden]

To the surprise of absolutely nobody, the rear echelon group has opted NOT to take point!

[deep narwhal]

Please do not fly a logistics group into a war zone without support-

[plucky river]

We have our own fighters

[deep narwhal]

No way to rearm them without BG9 moment-

[plucky river]

It's just 1-2 turns, so it'd be fine

[hasty garden]

Personally I'm content to let Storm handle the mad heoics

[deep narwhal]

GOC Tenets 1&2 adapted for ARMCO use:

1. You, as a unit, are expendable. If it ever comes down to you or the mission, the mission comes first to serve the greater good.
2. You are not disposable. You have more value alive than dead most of the time. If you must die, we will ensure that the maximum value is extracted from your death. [ARMCO] does not have infinite men nor resources to replace you with.

[grand sun]

I mean, 212th could use TF flight decks too

[gusty aurora]

nice

[ebon river]

That’s honestly great advice, where does it come from?

[deep narwhal]

Global Occult Coalition, from the SCP Foundation Files.

[ebon river]

I was wondering if that was it

[cunning shell]

(hides chocolate rations in mech)

How is everyone doing today

Or night

Woah woah Dave relax those are for everyone I swear

[grand sun]

Looking forward for tomorrow’s TCO maps

[gusty aurora]

same

[deep narwhal]

There's, like two.

And Fluffle already has their prototype one out in their comms channel
#1382037157342085314 message

[grand sun]

lol, doesn’t matter how many there are. #1386030427130564769 is always fun to watch

Not only do you get to see what the group is doing all together, but you also get to see the differences in TCO style with how their map looks. There were so many different styles in the Titan job.

[cunning shell]

Let it begin

[cunning shell]

I wonder tho

Would it be wrong or worth our time to make additional airfields

[sleek cape]

Very, very LS-intensive

[deep narwhal]

Probably not. Each one requires 1 LS to setup, a secure area, and 8 build actions, at keast 1 of which must be from a Field Engi with Airfield upgrade.

Then, every 3 rounds, they eat another LS, so now you need to run logistics to them as well.

[plucky river]

1 Airfield is only 1 LS.
You'd just shift your operation instead of resupppling an old one

You don't need them supplied to be useful

25 supplies is a lot (1 HAT)

The most 1 unit can use is 2 a turn.

[cunning shell]

Okay

[cunning shell]

I feel like this should be triple the amount

[deep narwhal]

Aircraft can land, but can't rearm - so you can pickup units with a HAT, but bombers and fighters are still kinda screwed.

[plucky river]

But they could reload from the HAT

Or a logi truck but that'd be worth it if our LS is strained

[cunning shell]

Mhm how many ships was it 15

[deep narwhal]

Can they?

Hm... rules aren't very clear...

[plucky river]

I know they can reload from logi truck.

Can reload other units as an action using up supply. Target unit does not need to use an action.

I would quite disapointed if HATs can't do this too

[deep narwhal]

🤔

[plucky river]

But it doesn't say in fighters that they need a supplied airfeild to rearm.
So they probably just need supplies. Which an airfeild can supply or a HAT can

So flying shovels could just load up at an airfield and move to build a new one on the front lines

[cunning shell]

What does it take to make a field hospital

[plucky river]

An action unless specified otherwise

[cunning shell]

Okay

[grand sun]

😜 sounds like something the Flying Shovels would have to decide. We’re just the delivery system and air support. Lol

[cunning shell]

I figure we just make some more stuff for us to use and help out

But yeah I see what you mean

[cunning shell]

I can’t wait to see how Wave 1 does in the turn 1

[twin girder]

Just glad that's not me this time

[cunning shell]

Yeah

I’m glad we go second

I’m just concerned about those missiles

The range on those must be ridiculous

[somber apex]

in the 350 player game youtube vids
I saw something about a wingman mechanic for fighters
in which they can share hits
but wasn't able to find more specifics on the rulesheets

how exactly do those work?
how close do we have to be together?
does it work with a full wing of 6 planes or only a designated wingman? stuff like that

[chilly iris]

It’s been while since C3 so this information might be wrong, as long as the fighters were flying together in a formation and all of them were in range of the attacking enemy they could spread the hits around to each fighter in the formation

[plucky river]

That’s not quite right

When enemies have multiple targets in range, they’ll spread 1 attack per target whenever possible

(Among all enemies)

[chilly iris]

Thank you good sir

[grand sun]

Got the tracker I used last campaign filled in. Ignore the turn numbers for now cause I haven't updated those yet.

@low parcel getting another campaign out of your tracker.

[low parcel]

glad to be of service

[grand sun]

Added a few more columns to the roster to help us see how we're looking on health, ammo, and track who is carrying what.

I do ask that you let TCOs adjust those states so that we can use those as easy references when processing your orders.

[cunning shell]

Logging off ping me if something happens also Dave here’s some Terra coffee mix slides some packets into the cockpit hope this makes up for removing your stash for cargo space

[grand sun]

If y'all have anything you'd like to see on the roster, lemme know. haha, I'm not the most creative...so I don't typically think of the cool stuff that I could do on the sheet

[chilly iris]

Stat tracking like supplies delivered or damage done maybe?

I don't know how easy those would be to track

[grand sun]

🤔

I'll do this as a placeholder at least. Could be fun to see how much we're helping.

[chilly iris]

That could be cool

[grand sun]

You've got individual bragging rights, but this could be cool to see for the 212th as a whole

[chilly iris]

"Yeah we're a logi group, who cares if we got the most confirmed bot kills?"

[hidden scaffold]

Wouldn't be surprised if you get the most confirmed air kills

[plucky river]

"How did Puffin the HAT get a kill?"

[hidden scaffold]

The Puffin rule will explain it

[plucky pagoda]

The enemy laughed so hard, they crashed.

[hidden scaffold]

no no no that is the ninimon rule

[grand sun]

Fair. 6 fighters and a LRM LM could put quite a bit of hurt down.

[chilly iris]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-reach-gif-18020807

[hidden scaffold]

Also applies for how promotion are handled by Armco members

[somber apex]

what I liked on some of the other sheets I saw was colour coding for the different unit types

[somber apex]

uhh I really like this one!

[hidden scaffold]

I think Dave wanted to do that for the 212th today

[grand sun]

Working on the sheets today, yeah.

Just got a logi tab up to help me track space and what we're carrying

Example: this is what each slot dropdown has for the HATs

Did a bit of restructuring and recoloring of the main roster

[dapper quartz]

"212th Logistical Branch" and we're just an air wing with some mechs.

...Also, no bombers.

...huh. 28 fighters, 10 bombers. That's what we've got in total.

[grand sun]

I think most of the bombers went TF.

lol, and to be fair...I had envisioned us having more logi units than we ended up with. Perhaps "212th Support" would've been more inline with what we got...but it still works.

[dapper quartz]

I recall doing a similar count for how large the ARMCO air force was back in FE102 but it looks like that channel has been deleted. IIRC the ARMCO air force was something like 50 fighters and 18 bombers.

[hidden scaffold]

I mean this graph says sth different

[grand sun]

Oh, don't get me wrong...I think we're strong for logi with our setup. lol, I had just envisioned the fighter to logi ratio being different

[hidden scaffold]

You could look at Trench‘s unit participation sheet

28 fighters for Titan

[oblique pecan]

HVTOLS BELONG TO THE LOGI BG

...a bit to late to notice for me but, uh, yeah, for next time, I guess. 🤣

[grand sun]

lol, we've got 2 including mine

[oblique pecan]

ay that's 1/3rd of all HVTOLs

[grand sun]

I could see HVTOLs being in heavy vehicle BGs as well for emergency movement if you can't wait for the logi BG to get there

But they also fit extremely well in Logi...especially if logi is helping with LS movement

[oblique pecan]

I mean

[grand sun]

To start this campaign off, Hoover will be snagging a LS from Atlas to bring to the airfield construction site and Sumer has it's prefab bunker already hooked in.

[oblique pecan]

I'm explaining the c3 fiasco AGAIN and i'll be posting my pathfinders hvtol thoughts in here

[plucky river]

Personally I think HETs need to be able to carry LS.
I'm okay if they need something like LSP and SFT.

[grand sun]

I'll be honest...I actually like where HVTOLs are right now (besides wanting more Heavy Objects we bring in). There's enough options for vehicles that it doesn't feel like I'm obligated to always be available for vehicle movement

[grand sun]

I mean...we could see something like that as an adjustment

HVTOLs couldn't carry LS originally

[hidden scaffold]

Quite a drastic change compared to 25 on Titan

[oblique pecan]

Oh, could HVTOLs fight back then ?

I'm asking because I wanted to check the v3 rules but, locked and need authorization

And I can't remember since, well, we didn't have 'em in Iron Hammer

I need it for my extra c3 fiasco explanation LOTR length edition.

[grand sun]

This is the first version that HVTOLs have been armed.

[oblique pecan]

Fucking hell thank god for the HVTOL buffs.

[grand sun]

But we also lost some of our armor...that was the trade off

[grand sun]

This message is about supply tho. Originally HATs and Orbitals were the only units for LS...but it was brought up "How do you get a LS to the engineers to build an airfield?"

[hidden scaffold]

Thank god we brought that question up early

[plucky river]

Orbital with Landing gear.
Wish HAT paradroping to a Logi was an option

[oblique pecan]

#1383066264485888120 message done

[grand sun]

Very true...but means that's the only way.

HATs can airdrop supply to a logi truck. SS to regulars and up to MS on HETs (atm)

Primary Action: Coordinated Supply Drop: Work with Heavy Air Transport to set up a Supply Air Drop. Heavy Air Transport can fly over the Logi Trucks location and drop its cargo of supply up to the max carry capacity of the Logi Unit. HAT must fly over the logi unit to drop supply.

[plucky river]

Oh, I was talking about paradropping LS specifically

With LSP and SFT a HET can hold 25 small supply which is as much as a HAT.
I wish they could be paradropped LS during that

But that's me also seeing HVTOLs as just 2 cargo slot units.
Infantry box 12FS
Medium supply
Vehicle

[oblique pecan]

Would advise against heavily HVTOL BG

As after a HVTOL has done it's job, it's either:

1. Pickup your boys back again, either when they're wounded, or need to go
2. Get yourself some large supply, somewhere, somehow
3. Idk play poker or something.
   
   Really, VTOL can be used as effective transport in large numbers due to how they can have multiple missions.
   HVTOLs ? Well, if you look at our numbers of HVTOLs in the campaign which is of 6, you can guess why no one wants to play them along with what I said 😅
   (+ add in the C3 fiasco and I'm honnestly pretty sure we'll only see the HVTOLs number stay stagnant, or even decrease next campaign 😅)
   
   fuck me with my thinking hvtol belong to the logi bg.

[grand sun]

ah! I mean...maybe if HETs get added to the LS list.

[oblique pecan]

Thinking being that "if on the frontline a HVTOL can be rendered useless fairly quickly after dropping it's unit, since large supply might not be handy for that BG and mechanized wounded might not happen everyday, why not put 'em in the logi BG ?"

[grand sun]

idk. Like I said, I like where it's at...just want even more Heavy Object options. It feels like a HVTOL player has options of how they want to play

[grand sun]

HVTOLs are versatile. I don't see LS as their primary function...just an option

• INF box means you can move more people while keeping the VTOL abilities. Dropping it off also means you can use it when you want to, but be free when you don't need the box.
• SS box means you're able to carry 6 SS to an area that might not have a logi truck or too risky for a HAT and the box can be dropped so same as INF box.
• MS could get supply to a FOB that would be challenging for land vehicles
• LS...well...we've talked about that one already
• vehicles you know
• and they can assist with loading/unloading things like quad AA turrets (which is something I wish we could start with too)

[oblique pecan]

they're versatile but all their options are very niche

I DONT HAVE THE WORD EXEPT NICHE IM DROWNING.

It's like very specialized but in a nicely made word

I don't fucking have it

[grand sun]

Which is part of them being changed to a refit

[plucky river]

HVTOL is a specialized VTOL

[oblique pecan]

All their options are too specific, yeah, i think that might be the word i was looking for.

[plucky river]

They can carry more infantry but then they lose the supply

[oblique pecan]

Ay, with the upgrades they're good.

[plucky river]

They can carry more supply but then they lose the infantry

[oblique pecan]

Without upgrades, it just feel like a tool that can do everything, but badly

[ebon river]

Boutique?

[oblique pecan]

...a shop ?

[grand sun]

😜 the MBT says to the HVTOL

Even before the changes I've been adamant that HVTOLs aren't for everyone. Takes a special playstyle to be one of us.

[ebon river]

It’s taken on the meaning you’re thinking of, in America at least

[oblique pecan]

...so a shop ?

[oblique pecan]

I swear, when I find the word I mean I shall rule over the world.

[sleek cape]

But not a one-stop shop at the top

[ebon river]

Boutique in America means shop and also fancy and well-made with a side implication of being specialized nearly to the point of uselessness

[oblique pecan]

Oh, I see, french word for fancy stuff.

Well in french it's just... a shop, I think, so far.

[ebon river]

Boutique being a particularly fancy word for shop, and also an adjective for things you could get in such a shop

[oblique pecan]

Maybe with the context it's a fancy word but generally it's just "shop"

[ebon river]

I’m trying to think of a French equivalent of a noun-adjective but my three years of high school study is failing me

[oblique pecan]

...try out english xD

[ebon river]

It didn’t occur to me how much of a pain the French/German split English has going on could be until just now

…although maybe it could break down as analogous to formal vs casual?

And I’ve gotten way off-topic

[oblique pecan]

...i'm not paid enough to think hard about how we speak man

[ebon river]

But language is COOL

[oblique pecan]

Oui. :)

I mean...

Fancy oui :)

[grand sun]

Going mobile, y’all feel free to ping me if you have anything that you want me to see.

[rose knot]

Well, it’s fancy in English because it came from French.

[grand sun]

First reports in from the other side of the gate

[twin girder]

yup

[ebon river]

Hey, Dave, how do you want to divvy up TACCOM/ aux TACCOM responsibilities?

[grand sun]

I was thinking about that…I’ll likely not be able to map for a week mid July and definitely not for a week mid August. I was wandering if you, and @chilly iris if they wanted too, wanted to make maps as practice even for the weeks these rounds that I’ll be making maps.

[ebon river]

Sounds good to me

[grand sun]

If you want, I can share a doc tomorrow that I used last campaign and plan on using this campaign.

[ebon river]

What weeks are you talking about missing?

That would be awesome, thank you

[grand sun]

July 12-19 and Aug 19-27

[ebon river]

Gotcha, I’ll make sure I’ve got a clean schedule

[grand sun]

You got it! Actually…

…nope…I forgot to share my tracker with my personal account.

lol, I’ll share it when I get to the comp in the morning.

[grand sun]

Practicing early will help you have a groove going into the weeks I’m gone. And we’re only 16 at last count, so it shouldn’t be bad.

[ebon river]

I’m already planning on running a bigger whole campaign

Two, actually

[grand sun]

For everyone in 212th, we’re gonna have to start making decisions on how/when we exit the gate.

[grand sun]

This’ll help get you started then. You see the changes I made to the 212th sheet?

[chilly iris]

Sounds good to me!

[grand sun]

All I’ve got on my phone is the screenshot since I forgot to share it with my personal email…but this gives you the idea behind it.

[chilly iris]

Looks good man!

[grand sun]

We’ll follow the reactions that Shovel is using on the orders, but the tracker was extremely helpful to me for keeping track of who I had received and who I was waiting on.

[twin girder]

oof, I forgot that these can run that long. if it lasts through July, I am going to be offline for the last 2 weeks (7/20 + 7/27)

[grand sun]

I haven’t asked specifics from Shovels yet or looked at Fluffle and Atlas’s fleet builds…but how the 212th reacts to the intel we received is a decision for us to make as a group.

[grand sun]

I mean, we don’t know how long until reinforcements arrive…I just wanted to make sure my backup TCOs were prepared in advance. I’ll still be able to place orders and communicate during those weeks…but July is a family trip and August is a fishing trip where I’ll only have signal via the Starlink at the lodge (and I’m not taking my computer).

Are you going to be offline offline, or still able to sneak orders in a couple times each week?

[twin girder]

yeah, im straight up going backcountry canoeing for 2 weeks. be days from any internet

we'll have a sat phone for emergencies and thats it

ill prob try to park myself somewhere. AF or TF

[grand sun]

No worries!! Just getting a grasp on the situation. When we get closer we’ll have a look at where we are.

There’s a MIA rule too…so we’ll brush up on that when we get there. Could just be we’re down a HVTOL and you’re survival is based on where you parked and if you were attacked while you were gone.

[twin girder]

not sure how it will work since, with this system, I would need to be traveling with the BG to not cost LS

[grand sun]

There’s a difference…sortie would cost a LS but you’d still have actions. I don’t remember the MIA rules, but again…we’ll look into that when we get closer.

😜 next week transitions into July tho, so it is rapidly approaching.

[twin girder]

yeeaaahhhhh

it is what it is

[cunning shell]

I have awakened

How is it going

No I’m going to check mid round reports soon

Oh crap

So we’re going to appear in a combat zone

[grand sun]

Unfortunately that looks to be the case.

[cunning shell]

Welp we have to help

6 fighters and one VTOL

I like our odds not gonna lie

[grand sun]

The way I see it, we the 212th have 3 choices:

1. We self-deploy with Atlas this round and the fighters get involved while us VTOLs/HVTOLs try to shield the HATs amongst the orbitals.
2. We self-deploy with all the automated freighters.
3. We let the automated freighters bring us to Elim City and then go from there.

[cunning shell]

1

[grand sun]

Guess I could use a poll here

Feel free to ping me if I missed some or you don’t understand. I’ll be checking with Atlas and Flying Shovels in the morning (it’s 10p my time).

Note options 1 and 2 expose us in orbit and has the LMs starting loaded in HATs. Option 3 is the slowest…but the safest. No one is expecting or has asked for our assistance with pushing through, but I want everyone’s feedback on this so it’s not me making assumptions or decisions for the group. Our mission has always been related to planetside runs, that’s all that’s being expected of us.

[deep narwhal]

Or list yourself for the following weeks as "Remaining in Formation"/"Following [Unit]".

[cunning shell]

This will be interesting

[surreal canyon]

Haven't been active for about a day, did I miss anything?

[cunning shell]

Check mid rounds

Now you can scroll up and vote what you think is the best thing we can do

[surreal canyon]

Ooh a poll, so uh, are we absolutely sure the auto-Freighter won't get targeted by bots immediately after they see it? Since they seem to love shooting civilian traffic.

[cunning shell]

I figure they attack other orbitals but we don’t know how many fighters they have

Also we’re BG14 not 13 sorry

[onyx bone]

TF1 Victorum plans to destroy the enemies near the gate once they make it through

[cunning shell]

What’s Atlas packing for the fight

[surreal canyon]

Hmm ok. If we got more orbitals and fighters/bombers running interference then I have some more confidence.

[onyx bone]

We got some stuff for the fighters and we can take a hit. Our main power is in boarding but we're planning on not boarding the enemy at the gate so Victorum has a clear shot

[cunning shell]

Solid plan glad to know what you’re doing

[surreal canyon]

Got some good firepower there. I hope but have confidence it will be enough.

[grand sun]

I also think the main thing with the auto-freighter is we kinda sorta don’t count until it’s time to offload. It’s part of the orbital safety.

[onyx bone]

It'll keep their attention until Victorum is through the gate

[grand sun]

Looking up y’all’s fleet make up was on my list. This is much better than me hunting. Haha

[surreal canyon]

Don't have to hunt when it comes to you. That ought to help with the spreadsheets.

[cunning shell]

5 fighters

With there help we can effectively help

Because we would have 11 fighters our 6 + there 5

[cunning shell]

Hit this to vote

[surreal canyon]

True, but we do still need to make planetfall, and looks like the droids have 4 fighters, between the 6 orbitals 5 fighters and 2 bombers (?), looks like the others got this, we need to head to the objective on schedule. I'd like to start fighting soon, hate these box freighters, but we need to be ready for what awaits us on the ground, and help those who land with us.

[surreal canyon]

Already did 🙂

[cunning shell]

Fair point so we should deploy our selfs to make the schedule drop

[grand sun]

Realistically, options 2 and 3 could resurface in a poll for the next round.

The only thing we really needed to decide was if we were going with Atlas or not since that would determine if we needed to get orders up. Haha

[cunning shell]

I think we should and relax Dave it’s not titan

[grand sun]

Naw, I’ve got no stress.

[cunning shell]

Suspicious

[grand sun]

I like our mission and think we have a strong group for what we’re striving to accomplish.

lol, the stress is if I had convinced y’all to deploy with Fluffle and Storm for extra fighter cover. lol

I’m good to wait until the round with the automated freighters to launch. I just don’t wanna make a call without putting it to a vote.

I’m torn between automated freighter and self deployed…but I’ve but it’s the same turn regardless.

[cunning shell]

I understand I recommend self deploying to get all of us to Elim city

That way we have made planetfall and have Time to deploy and prepare for Shovel

[twin girder]

If we do freighters, can we choose to deploy before making landfall or are we stuck in them?

[cunning shell]

That I’m not sure

[hidden scaffold]

If Lussan Gate and Nav-1 are secured we should be fine just flying straight to Elim right?

[cunning shell]

That’s a hope