Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms

[glad hedge]

This is all very serious work being done here

[rapid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-fantasy-gif-19395056

Yes ‘very’ important

[fluid viper]

I personally think it makes sense as someone that runs a server for ttrpg stuff. I constantly am helping coach GMs through "if the player isn't going to do the work to show up you can't really play the game for them" We can't sit there and do all the work for someone hoping they show back up. It is extra work for us in a game they don't seem to care much about.

[rapid pond]

-# God I have some of the weirdest/funny gifs

[hazy radish]

I know, I know

[fluid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lorgar-warhammer-40k-word-bearers-warhammer-cinnamoroll-gif-6569967964835542194

[glad hedge]

EREBUS DETECTED
COMMENCING EXTERMINATUS

[hazy radish]

I understand where cap's comin' from, he's got 500 players to manage, he's not gonna give a 2nd chance if like 40 drop, he's still having 460 at the end of the day, that's good

[rapid pond]

… I take back what I said

[hazy radish]

As for me, I just like being kind.

[rapid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/daleks-exterminate-doctor-who-whovian-gif-10468156

[sleek cedar]

Thought it was Lorgar. still heretical, still exterminatus

[fluid viper]

I like the tanker gushing over a Famas lol

[hazy radish]

:D

[hazy radish]

@sour flame @lost elk

30 minutes before orders closes guys !

If you have any questions on what's happening, feel free to ask us and/or look at the pins for info !

[sour flame]

Planning my order, planning to stay in the formation that was posted earlier today. Any input?

[hazy radish]

Holy cow, I was scared you were not gonna show up ! :o

I think that's good, just say you're moving with us in L-H and that's good

[sour flame]

Sorry, been moving for the last week or two and haven't gotten my PC up because internet issues my landlord doesn't want to deal with.

[hazy radish]

Oh dear, good luck with that

I will place that message here for you just in case aswell

But yeah, if you need anything just ask us

Aaaand only the one missing now !

[lost elk]

Sorry I’ve not been responding I’ve had work on my ass for 2 weeks (some one fucked up and I’ve had to deal with there shit)

[hazy radish]

WOMBAAAT ! :D

[lost elk]

If I don’t collapse for exhaustion I’ll file order’s shortly

[hazy radish]

Welcome back, woah

[lost elk]

Where do u want me

[hazy radish]

Well, we're going from elim city to L-H

We have a formation and a pin up but, in a nutshell:

We move to L-H to go to crossroads
We got a formation up
No casualties and Elim City has been taken

You can just have in your order say that you're following Iron Hammer formation to go to L-H and that'll work !

Good luck with your work, jeez.

[lost elk]

It’s done I need sleep

[hazy radish]

Okay, good night bud.

Keep us updated and send a message here from time to time if you can alright ?

Take care of yourself ❤️

[muted eagle]

Goodnight!

[left thistle]

EYYYYYYY

He Lives!

[hazy radish]

Yes !

He just has immense loads of work.

[left thistle]

Oh jeez

[hazy radish]

And with that, all is good and well.

[left thistle]

Indeed

Hope he gets some good rest now lol

[hazy radish]

Hope so too.

Boy, next round is gonna be rough if there's stuff in L-H

No prior plan or idea where we're heading to
And 24 hours to figure stuff out, oh boy !

sigh of relief

I will either get the tac-com tomorrow or tonight, there isn't much to do but "formation, where we goin', what people are doing to other people" :D

(and for our timezone folks, tomorrow for me is in like 10-12 hours from now)

[steady zephyr]

or that will be Cross Roads and the midrounds will be bloody

[hazy radish]

Oh we don't have the speed to get to crossroads

stuff will stop at L-H for us.

[steady zephyr]

For this turn?

[hazy radish]

yuhuh

we speed 1

look at our pins, we got 3 folks on foot

We go to L-H
We stop at L-H

[steady zephyr]

So either this or next turn might be bloody

[hazy radish]

I will say, @atomic basalt and @charred swift I have now noticed you want your facing to be north, are you both sure of this ?

The formation in pins is headed east

Just want to make sure you guys do want to face north, I'll change the formation to match if so.

[atomic basalt]

Oh that’s a mistake on my part I copy pasted my last order!

[hazy radish]

Ah, okay !

Delete & repost it quickly for me then :D

Also like @jolly cloud 's facing 🤣

[jolly cloud]

Oop- should I change that? Wanted someone looking behind us just in case 😅

[hazy radish]

No no, that's fine, I can change the formation to match

I'm just verifying the facing thinking "oh that might be important if one wants to look somewhere else" and I see thoses 3 outliers

You wanna be in the back too switching spots with ADE vtol so you're truely looking back ?

[jolly cloud]

Sure! Or if that’s a bunch of work we can keep as-is no worries

[hazy radish]

Nono that's good

Don't worry about my tac-com workload, do what suits you

tac-comming is a problem for future me, future vivian, and future adam

this shouldn't stop you from doing what you find fun

[jolly cloud]

Flying backwards it is

[fluid viper]

Man I really hate future Adam. I should give him a lot more work to do.

[south ether]

Me casually reading up on chat because the production stop of 2 hours is gonna last atleast another 2 hours

[hazy radish]

Production stop of 4 hours then eh ? 🤣

[south ether]

Yes it is great, means second shift has to do 2 more hours, and I had to cancel two deliveries

[muted eagle]

I more imagine the battlegroups as the colours, and maybe changing the colours up a bit

Like having orange, being iron hammers for example

[hazy radish]

BUT I PREFER REEEEEEED

😭

[hazy radish]

@charred swift ?

[hazy radish]

Well then, I recon this looks pretty good.

Any thoughts on this ?

it's basically the same exept as requested big ear is looking behind going backwards, and hanzo is looking north as per facing

[solar bear]

Fine by me...

[muted eagle]

Yep, looks good

[hazy radish]

I've done as Hanzo has said for the facing, I hope it's not misinterpretation from my part

[charred swift]

good morning, and for sure meant east

ya know what, for rp purposes, we blame the music

[rapid pond]

Eat Newly Shredded Wheat?

-# God I’m hella bored

[rigid oar]

Good morning Iron hammer!

[muted eagle]

Good morning everyone!

Or afternoon

[hazy radish]

Oh, good !

Good timing from my IRL family aswell, i was like 5 mins from posting before I had to go lol

Please delete & repost @charred swift if you can :P

Otherwise I'll assume as you said this was an error and i'll correct it in formation for posting, but i'd still like you to delete & repost if possible

Aaaaaaand we're in #1386030427130564769 message !

[charred swift]

done!

[hazy radish]

Ay, perfect !

[muted eagle]

@hazy radish

[hazy radish]

@glad hedge BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU

🤣

[glad hedge]

Definitely above my paygrade for that one chief

[solar bear]

What else did @glad hedge do??

[hazy radish]

Yes yes, agreed agreed.

[glad hedge]

Dont worry about it 👀

[solar bear]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

https://tenor.com/view/panicing-panic-button-worry-worried-gif-4630981258376112767

[muted eagle]

Idk, if we get a small team together for it I reckon it'd be possible

[solar bear]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-dont-just-dont-stop-gif-23310589

[simple elm]

Oh god, what did I miss? xD

[hazy radish]

I'm going crazy over radar charts triangle for armco in #meta-comm

you?

[fluid viper]

Nothing important. We are filling the time waiting for the other TAC COMs to get orders in and for midrounds to start

[simple elm]

Just getting up for the morning, somehow my body just factory reset my fucking sleep schedule xD

[glad hedge]

Oh for sure. But I am already pushing what I consider to be worth my time at the moment lmao

[muted eagle]

Fair enough

[hazy radish]

Ping me if stuff is happening for Iron Hammer, midrounds are slowly starting to roll in.

[south ether]

i wonder how many of the questionmarks in elim are going to be civies/miltia

[rapid pond]

Probably all of ‘em

[thorn sand]

Probably most of them.

[south ether]

don't think all of them most yes

mostly 3715 en 3718 i have my doubt all are civies

[left thistle]

Holy shit

Boy am I glad we didn’t listen to Vivian 😭

[muted eagle]

I'm sure we'd be fine!

[rapid pond]

Vivian

There’s a reason the side objective was hold

[left thistle]

Imagine trying to hold off that in the mines 😭

With 24 units no less

[south ether]

hmm that is target rich enviroment

[hazy radish]

SO AM I

I TOLD YOU GUYS ! 🤣

We are not Icarus 2.0 !!

[south ether]

wait till we see crossroads

[left thistle]

Venator is about to be tho… and they have all our armor 😭

[south ether]

we may be icarus 2.0 if crossroads is like that

[hazy radish]

Worse case scenario: we say "nope, nopenopenopenope" and book it out onto L-H lol

But let's not be hasty about crossroads when L-H could also be it's own problem.

[left thistle]

Yeah pros of being speed one: we will never get that far into a map in one round

[iron arrow]

also when we get to crossroads we won't be alone

iirc rabbit and hopefully atlas will be with us

[muted eagle]

Hopefully

[iron arrow]

with shovels at least on the way

[muted eagle]

Hey @willow epoch, you ready to die at the crossroads with us?

[willow epoch]

Yes

[hazy radish]

-# Is that rabbit's tac-com ?

[muted eagle]

No

Just one of the people I originally joined the meta campaign with

[hazy radish]

OH !

Hey @willow epoch ! :D

[median epoch]

-# psst: you can get Iron Hammer up to 2 speed!
@hazy radish @muted eagle

Link

[hazy radish]

@fluid viper

he's a secondary tac-com too

don't forget adam

he's new, say hi to him.

[median epoch]

Oh, nice, congrats!

[hazy radish]

Ye. :)

[median epoch]

He's been in our chat a bit now and then too

[hazy radish]

He was recruited based on one criteria: He can draw hammers on paint.net.

[median epoch]

Isn't it just two rectangles?

-# how dare I besmirch the beauty that is a hammer

[hazy radish]

how dare you besmirch the beauty that is a hammer

[fluid viper]

I was aware. But we had to load up IFVs so we went with a better fighting position for this turn and kept our supplies

[median epoch]

extra supply is good. hopefully you can just walk on through to crossroads with us next turn

[hazy radish]

scratches head

how are you fitting 3 things in one logi truck ?

one logi truck only has 2 cargo slots.

[median epoch]

each slot holds 6FS

[hazy radish]

Yes. But only 2 slots.

So only 2 infantries no matter how you cut it.

[median epoch]

2 slots is 12FS = 3x 4FS units

[hazy radish]

If you have 6 supplies, that's 2 slots used. Since one slot is 5 supplies.

[median epoch]

you can't mix/match supply, but other BGs have been doing the 3xEngis in logi trucks since V3

[hazy radish]

Even without that, that'd mean our logi would have to give up all it's logi + house literally all but 1 of our most precious healing/repairing units in a 1 hit vehicle

I... am not a fan at all 😅

[median epoch]

but yea, no supply is rough

as you spend it though, worth considering I hope

[hazy radish]

C3 =/= C5 if it's one thing i've learned from turn 4

I'd honnestly put it down as a question for shack now since he's described logi trucks as having 2 slots, not 3

[median epoch]

Here's an example from Dwarf Merchants this round

[hazy radish]

'tis legal ? scratches head

Did anyone ever ask shack the question is my big question too.

Like, it does say "2 cargo slots" and I'm very intent on keeping with that idea of "2 things max guys"

(i am aware the arty hitching is legal)

[hazy radish]

Because, well, interpreting rules.

[median epoch]

Think of it like this:

Each cargo slot can either be "chairs" or "trunk"
If you have "chairs", it gives you 6 chairs (FS)
If you have "trunk", it gives you 5 spots for supply

If you have 12 chairs, three units can occupy those chairs.
If you have 6 chairs and a trunk, it's 6FS and 5 supply

[hazy radish]

I'm looking through shack q&a and rules clarifications and see none of it in there...

[hazy radish]

I don't agree with this. I think it is specifically mentionned "2 cargo slots" to avoid such cases.

This is also why I wanna put it to shack or see if he verified this at any point

Because I'm not changing my mind and neither are you 🤣

[median epoch]

I guess just watch what happens when Dwarf Merchant tries to move, and if they can only move 1, then you're right, and if they move more than 1, then I'm right?

[hazy radish]

I guess so ?

I mean if shack sees it and is fine with it then that's fine for me too.

Implicit works for me, and works for shack too.

God imagine the amount of shit we'd have to ask if we didn't look at "oh he implicitely did it, let's ask anyways" 🤣

[hazy radish]

Even with that info, I still wouldn't do it personally 😅

Even if it is legal*

Putting all your most precious stuff in an easily burnable box right next to fire just doesn't sit right with me

Especially if it's just so you can run faster near the fire.

[neat fossil]

Whatever do you mean? That sounds perfectly safe.

[hazy radish]

ICARUS, GET OUT OF HERE !

SHOO, SHOO !

NO ICARUS HERE ! >:(

[median epoch]

uses 🧹 on self. it's super effective

[hazy radish]

no come back you're not icarus noooo

[median epoch]

Ixcarus

[hazy radish]

D:

[fluid viper]

The important thing for us in midrounds is we know enemies can spawn in the numbered nodes

they are not just way points

Small chance we hit the fan hard tomorrow

Like this kind of thing may be what we face in a few hours.

[left thistle]

Plz no 😭

We’re just a small itty bitty bg 🥺

-# tho in all likely hood we will run into some reinforcements that we’re headed to elim

[fluid viper]

Well that convoy said they where shocked they broke through. There is a good chance there is a blockade on the road going east

And we may be trying to open the way.

[left thistle]

One might say we’re trying to… hammer through

[thorn sand]

For this sort of task I prefer a maul.

[left thistle]

Booooooo at least take a sledge… hammer

[odd lake]

Breakin' in some doors with the Hammer

[muted eagle]

Yeah, same with dropping on Cell'Dar mine!

Perfectly safe

[hazy radish]

C-Z, I missed that note, I thought that was fighting on cell'dar mine

But yes, it wouldn't surprise me thoses nodes have fights in them. We just don't have the info on maps on them.

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-13800218

YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[muted eagle]

Hopefully it shouldn't be too long before we get the midround events for iron hammers

[hazy radish]

Yus, should be today !

Good news: We only have 1 midround event and it says "oh so they've arrived in L-H, neat"

Bad news: We get multiple midround events D:

[muted eagle]

Who knows, multiple could be good news too

It's just unlikely

[hazy radish]

True.

Could be civilian news.

And civilian news is good news ! :D

[muted eagle]

Indeed

[hazy radish]

It's a bit quiet while orders are not here, it feels weird doesn't it ?

[muted eagle]

Yeah

[hazy radish]

Yup.

[eager carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-elmer-fudd-gif-22364720

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/its-kinda-quiet-around-here-jeremy-assisted-living-s3e14-its-silent-in-here-gif-27130459

[eager carbon]

we are just waiting to see what happens i guess

[hazy radish]

yup !

[left thistle]

Oh don’t worry, in a few hours everything is going to pop off

[hazy radish]

and then 24hours for orders...

oh dear.

[muted eagle]

Hopefully those orders will only be "Move in formation to the crossroads"

[hazy radish]

Yes, hopefully.

[fluid viper]

I honestly hope not. I want all the brawls

Give me the panic orders (even though I won't be able to help map until it is Frenchies bed time)

[hazy radish]

@left thistle @muted eagle HECK YEAH !

[rapid pond]

Vivian, did your people get medical licenses?

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/celebritynamegame-highfive-hi5fail-gif-25442178

[left thistle]

Holy shit!

5?!?!??

[rapid pond]

Good luck

Ya Iron Hands Hammer

[left thistle]

Should I be worried as to what you put in the stuff you gave my squad @muted eagle 👀

[rapid pond]

Are you telling me Vivian also lacks a medical license for their medics?

[neat fossil]

-# sneek 10,000

[left thistle]

I think we might be in the clear this round. Shack mentioned us once and moved on

[rapid pond]

Nahhhh

He’s working on other stuff

[muted eagle]

Nah, just fresh watermelon

[muted eagle]

Who needs a medical licence?

[left thistle]

Honestly, that’d def do the trick for me

[muted eagle]

I kinda imagine my medics just using like, a random assortment of plants and herbs that would definitely not be permitted for use in an actual hospital

[rapid pond]

Well

I guess you’re kind of conventional then

Not the worse, but still worrying that we hired you

[muted eagle]

Well what did you expect when hiring watermelon farming gambling addicts?

[hazy radish]

Everyone got their hammers ?

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[iron arrow]

oh god they're cybermen

[hazy radish]

Good !

[hazy radish]

Less good !

[south ether]

it is what i expected to be honest

[hazy radish]

same here

[glad hedge]

Victorum is gonna have a scrap my dudes, pray for me that my little ship will survive 🙏

[south ether]

how much point defense does victorum have?

[hazy radish]

YES YOU WILL !

I think Victorum will be mighty fine. If that orbital dies, all thoses fighters & bombers only got 1 shot. Tankable.

[glad hedge]

That is if they play by the same rules as our forces. Someone #1382036960356597963 said something similar and it was pointed out that we actually havent seen any of the bot aerospace units fire more than once

[hazy radish]

well, hopefully they do

[muted eagle]

Opening orders now to hopefully give us a bit of extra time

Seen as our midround event has happened and well, we can't exactly do anything to help other BGs from our current position

[glad hedge]

My current idea for ARMCO UNO

[hazy radish]

+2 the nest in C2

+4 the storm drop in C3

also petition orbital to be 0 and infantry be 9

since there's only four 0 cards in uno while there are i think eight/twelve number 9 and number 8 and number 7 and etc

[glad hedge]

Should I then also reverse the order? Cus right now I have it so that it goes from small to large units (ish)

[muted eagle]

Damn, wild card +4 isn't a Super heavy battle tank :p

[glad hedge]

Thought it would be good to keep the action cards distinct

[hazy radish]

I guess so ?

Maybe from common to rare.

[glad hedge]

Maybe just like this?

All of this is in the Iron Hammer spreadsheet so feel free to put suggestions there

[fluid viper]

Are our midrounds done?

Did we have an uneventful event?

[hazy radish]

shrugs

Cap says "you go to L-H"

I'm waiting for him to say "no one" or "shit there's people"

midrounds might not be over for us.

[hazy radish]

I likey.

[muted eagle]

I feel like there's just nothing there tbh

I hope not

But that might just be the case unfortunately

[hazy radish]

If there is nothing in L-H, sweet stuff.

Means path to Crossroads is easier then anticipated.

Also means less time to go there coordinated with our friends.

Good stuff really.

[left thistle]

Seems like it, unless he’s planning on doubling back

[solar bear]

Are we going to do something different this turn??

[hazy radish]

shrugs

maybe if cap reveals there's a crap ton of stuff in L-H

maybe there's stuff he hasn't gotten to yet ?

if not, I guess we're just riding to crossroads then.

Unless you guys wanna defend at L-H and wait for them to come, or wait for more BG/TF coordination.

[solar bear]

Not for us at lest...

[muted eagle]

I think we go straight for the crossroads

I think atlas should also be there next turn

[hazy radish]

yup, if I understood correctly others are in high orbit waiting

[solar bear]

I with Vivian on this one...

I don't remember if we have a HD version of the Crossroads map, but that would come in handy...

[muted eagle]

I think rabbits might also be able to make it there next turn or atleast the turn after

So we're definitely not alone

[solar bear]

Worst case we need to wait 1 turn for reinforcements...

And is a good Idea to do some recon on there...

[hazy radish]

shrugs
we'd arrive in formation anyways, no point for having the map so far

[muted eagle]

There we go, the melon medics are spending their time in the VTOL gambling

[fluid viper]

rabbit is going to be in Crossroads next turn. They probably need our help. Even stuff like shredding a bit of bot armor would help them I think.

[left thistle]

This is unofficial but

Someone from another bg did this

[hazy radish]

The rabbits are gonna need some tools, notably, some hammers ! 🔨

[hazy radish]

Good news: Rabbit getting to crossroads means there is absolutely nothing on L-H. HURRAY !

Bad news: Bots have put in their industries on crosroads...

[fluid viper]

They flew in

[hazy radish]

oh

[fluid viper]

They are airborn over that

[hazy radish]

Retract good news then.

they can airlift themselves?

[fluid viper]

I think so

They are all light vehicles and Mechs

and stuff that can sit in light vehicles

[muted eagle]

Yeah, I think they're using the civilian freighters

[hazy radish]

...but how are they landing on crossroads then ?

if there's no starport ?

[muted eagle]

Landing gears

[hazy radish]

oh

the npc orbitals got landing gears ?

[onyx basalt]

They went to the mining facility and took the civilian transports that have landing gears

[muted eagle]

Considering they're light freighters (I think), yes

[fluid viper]

I don't know honestly

[hazy radish]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH

That explains it then.

[muted eagle]

Yeah

[fluid viper]

So they will be put in an open field somewhere

Probably the proposed airfield is where the ywill land

It is noteworthy it is going to be like 6-10 hexes distance from our likely spawn area to the factories

We probably need to fight into those first buildings before anything else if artillery is going to be close enough to help there

I think this area is the big battlefield

Everything else feeds into these factories. The bots want the 2 mines for raw materials and they want the cities for the populations. They send those to their factories in Crossroads and turn them into bots

[south ether]

Hmm crossroads doesn't look to bad

[hazy radish]

Good news, L-H is clear !

[south ether]

And that

[south ether]

So 1 move to crossroads then everyone with higher speed can move forwards till there max speed

[hazy radish]

...for the most paranoids like me, L-H is indeed clear

[hazy radish]

We can ?

I mean, where would we even arrive from then 🤔

[left thistle]

Just reforwarding something Adam did a few days ago

[south ether]

Top left, and yes

[hazy radish]

I mean, we can literally just do "Iron Hammer go to crossroads" and that's it for today's planning really.

[left thistle]

Think it could be a useful starting point for our planning

[hazy radish]

We'll arrive in formation anyways.

[fluid viper]

That would put us in arty range of those factories to support any other operations we or other groups do while being a strong defensive point

[left thistle]

Well do we get the option to move forward after entering? Bc our mechanized can push ahead and the H/vtol-arty plan can get set up this turn

[south ether]

Yes, but maybe we want to deploy some stuff

[hazy radish]

• we might be arriving more north or more south then we think

Due to all the BGs that are coming in aswell.

[fluid viper]

7 hexes from map edges to first factory as a note

[hazy radish]

Do we ? scratches head

[south ether]

What other ground bound bg are going to crossroads

[left thistle]

I think that’s what atlas did on turn 4, but could you please double check?

[hazy radish]

flying shovels, rabbit, 212th ?

[left thistle]

So an engineer group, a light scout force and us?

[fluid viper]

Yeah

We need some more meat

[hazy radish]

• atlas

[fluid viper]

We are the heaviest group going crossroads so far.

[left thistle]

Well I think we are the meat atp

[onyx basalt]

Yeah, once you enter the tactical map you can use whatever speed you have left per unit. So a tank can use 1 speed to get to the map and 1 speed to start a hex closer.

[left thistle]

Thankfully the contacts aren’t as thick as near venator… yet

[fluid viper]

Storm is joining us likely in 2 turns

So we will have a good amount of infantry

[left thistle]

Oh great!

[hazy radish]

Huh, so we CAN plan stuff.

[onyx basalt]

Storm's is voting but there was a lot of interest in going to help in Hill Mine

[hazy radish]

...but where the fuck are we entering from on the map.

[left thistle]

Yeah so all of our mounted units can push up into the first cluster of buildings this round

[south ether]

Rex (LV, Rabbit TAC-COM)
[CAPS]
— 4:14 PM
I think he means the reverse case if I’m not too tired (I have just woken up), if for example, Rabbit used our 3 strategic speed to move from a non-tacmap area to an active tacmap area, do our individual units have their full speed when we arrive at the active tacmap?
CaptainShack
[ARM]

OP
— 4:14 PM
No
Its the same speed resource.
So if you arrive out of speed. Your out.

[left thistle]

Top left no?

[hazy radish]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dunno

[south ether]

best guess is top left

[hazy radish]

Crossroads is also pretty smoll.

I think with all 5 groups combined it'll get outran quickly by us.

[south ether]

8*9 grid

[left thistle]

Which is a bit of a shame, I’d love for a larger map that’d allow us to really get set up and stuck in. It’d also allow our logi to do more

[south ether]

and we come out at 3716

[left thistle]

Also yeah, the map shack gave us has the entry point from L-H at 3717/3716

[fluid viper]

Yeah Logi feels kinda meh with less space to move.

[hazy radish]

nav l-w1 is an orbital coord, that might be an artifact then a real spawn point imo

[left thistle]

One thing I liked more when looking at C3 and the massive map they used for that

Bc right now the game plays like we have checkpoints

[fluid viper]

I get why it works the way it does now though. 50+% of the players don't have to get mapped each turn this campaign.

NW corner confirmed by Shack

[left thistle]

Certainly, but it makes logi feel less rewarding, since all resup and healing is done essentially “off-screen” once the tac map is hand waved

[left thistle]

Great! I vote we use your plan as a basis for what we’re going to do/ bc getting our arty set up within range of the factories will be huge

[fluid viper]

Hex 3917 is probably best place to set up artillery.

Puts all 3 factories in range but keeps the party hidden behind the mountain ridge.

[left thistle]

Is it just me or are these buildings comically small for the hex sizes compared to Elim lol

[south ether]

yes

[hazy radish]

Neat.

[south ether]

need to clear out 3918 though to deploy arty safe ish in 3917

[hazy radish]

Could always deploy the arty on 3815 and move it next turn

[fluid viper]

Main column goes in 1 engineer sets up an arty ring and the other builds tank traps and barbed Wire over the mouth of that canyon?

[south ether]

3816?

[fluid viper]

We need someone to scout that South ridge unless Rabbit does it.

[fluid viper]

Too far back. Can't support attacks on all 3 factories.

[hazy radish]

...i've got a few pings to throw I think.

stretches hands

[south ether]

can move up later first control 3918

and i am a bit worried about the large question mark on 3919

and 4019

[fluid viper]

I think next turn is just get on the map

[left thistle]

Controlling 3918 this turn (assuming we can reach it) is going to be key for anything else we do this round

[fluid viper]

We don't have the 3 speed needed to vomit out group into the buildings in 1 turn.

[left thistle]

Idk all our mechanized units will still have at least 1 speed left

[south ether]

yes but shack said both movements share a pool so everyone with more than 1 speed can move more this turn

[left thistle]

And from there our inf can disembark and push a hex further

[south ether]

cost 0.5 to dismount though

[left thistle]

Ah right

[solar bear]

@left thistle can... I have the ramp upgrade...

[left thistle]

I ain’t going out there by myself 😭

There could be twin squads gunning me at 3919 lmao

[south ether]

odt from vtol can also deploy vtols have 4 speed left

[solar bear]

We can have the LM push with us to give support...

[left thistle]

Oh wait yes yes

[solar bear]

That too

[left thistle]

I’m seeing the vision

[south ether]

lm on evasive tanks moving forward

[fluid viper]

@simple elm you where right looking at the map. More infantry in the VTOLs would have probably been good.

[hazy radish]

@iron arrow @dim plaza @jolly cloud @left thistle @lost elk @muted eagle @rough granite @feral ivy @ivory goblet @south ether

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in around 28 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1752098400:F> (<t:1752098400:R>)

So far:

• We are at L-H, zone is clear.
• We can arrive at Crossroads. Anyone who's got unused speed after getting to crossroads will be able to use it to deploy further. For exemple, if you're an MBT (hi myself), we travel at 1 speed, meaning you will get 1 out of your 2 speed used, meaning you will have 1 speed to play with further uppon deploying. Shack has confirmed we are deploying on the North-West corner of Crossroads.

Now, what's the plan ?
Heh, I don't know, we're literally debating it as I write this right now so, come on in and give your thoughts !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

@rigid oar @solar bear @sleek cedar @fierce dirge @simple elm @charred swift @atomic basalt @eager carbon @sour flame

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in around 28 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1752098400:F> (<t:1752098400:R>)

So far:

• We are at L-H, zone is clear.
• We can arrive at Crossroads. Anyone who's got unused speed after getting to crossroads will be able to use it to deploy further. For exemple, if you're an MBT (hi myself), we travel at 1 speed, meaning you will get 1 out of your 2 speed used, meaning you will have 1 speed to play with further uppon deploying. Shack has confirmed we are deploying on the North-West corner of Crossroads.

Now, what's the plan ?
Heh, I don't know, we're literally debating it as I write this right now so, come on in and give your thoughts !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

[south ether]

could drop dice behind the deployd infantery

[hazy radish]

@odd lake @fluid viper @thorn sand @winter dragon

Hello again, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in around 28 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1752098400:F> (<t:1752098400:R>)

So far:

• We are at L-H, zone is clear.
• We can arrive at Crossroads. Anyone who's got unused speed after getting to crossroads will be able to use it to deploy further. For exemple, if you're an MBT (hi myself), we travel at 1 speed, meaning you will get 1 out of your 2 speed used, meaning you will have 1 speed to play with further uppon deploying. Shack has confirmed we are deploying on the North-West corner of Crossroads.

Now, what's the plan ?
Heh, I don't know, we're literally debating it as I write this right now so, come on in and give your thoughts !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

[left thistle]

I think we could get two inf (me and the odts) the two LMs and at least one vtol into 3918 this turn no?

[hazy radish]

Apologies for cutting through the convo, felt like I needed to ping everyone to get 'em up like last turn :P

[fluid viper]

Isnt Wombat officially double MIA?

[hazy radish]

NOPE

HES BACK BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

He did mention having a ton of work, but he pulled in like 20 mins before the deadline last turn

[solar bear]

I will have only one speed left so the rest of the way will be on foot... I can provide fire support with my autocannon...

[fluid viper]

Ooh an extra infantry helps a ton

[hazy radish]

For planning's sake, I think it's good we say the formation is arriving in such a way from the north-west corner

[south ether]

we need a deplyoment plan and see what rabbits is gonna do

facing south would be better?

[hazy radish]

shrugs

[left thistle]

Could you shift us down a hex 🥺

[hazy radish]

he said northwest I guess, I'm assuming we're arriving from northwest

[hazy radish]

HE SAID NORTHWEST !

xD

[left thistle]

But… but how far north west 🥺🥺

[hazy radish]

side of the map northwest

[south ether]

how much movement do the tanks have left over?

[hazy radish]

1

[fluid viper]

I think we will start a little south of that calling the first numbered hex actual map edges but close enough.

[solar bear]

I can go to the north of 3717, the rest is on you...

[south ether]

think we can get people into 3817

[left thistle]

drive over the mountain 😂

[charred swift]

I will go where you wish for me to go!

[fierce dirge]

Is this a small map?

[south ether]

yes

[left thistle]

Yeah having the inf occupy 3817 and then push to 3918 next turn couldn’t hurt either

[left thistle]

Surprisingly yes

[solar bear]

I don't have the jets... Yet...

[fluid viper]

Can't the light Mechs cross the mountain?

[hazy radish]

smoll.

[fierce dirge]

Are we expecting they are aware of our presence?

[fluid viper]

Or is that an upgrade?

[left thistle]

For sure

[fluid viper]

I hope Rabbit pulls them in.

[hazy radish]

I'd say the light mechs to 3918/3917 to see the unknown contacts...

[left thistle]

And I doubt there will be any friendlies left in this area given the factories and the civs that evacuated last round to elim

[hazy radish]

Wow this chat's lightened up a blaze with the release of the briefing too !

[fierce dirge]

Damn, better not get those tank threads stuck in the ice and snow

[solar bear]

Upgrade...

[hazy radish]

Just no one mention I gotta go to the gym in like, 50 minutes, and i'll be happy

[left thistle]

you gotta go the the gym is 50 minutes

Whoa… must’ve been the wind

[fluid viper]

I think we don't disembark infantry this turn from the looks of the map. I think we push them into town on IFVs to get them to the choke point.

[hazy radish]

cries in turn 4

[hazy radish]

Would we disembark anything really ?

[fluid viper]

Maybe artillery further back if people really want to.

[iron arrow]

where in the map are we coming ing?

[left thistle]

I mean we can have the infantry disembark into 3817, it’d give us way more guns on for the contacts at 3918

[muted eagle]

Might be a good idea for the mechs to use whatever speed they have left to see what those question marks are, if they can even get close enough

[left thistle]

Yes! Finally use the light mechs for their intended purpose!

[fluid viper]

I don't think we need all the guns for 3918. I think we need them all in the right spots for the bot response in 2 turns.

[hazy radish]

NW Corner

#1383066706724913293 message Here

[left thistle]

Fair enough, staying embarked will allow us to push deeper in the following round

[hazy radish]

Asked for the linked msg to get pinned too

[left thistle]

Arty should def get set up this turn tho

[hazy radish]

Yup. No use deploying you guys from the getgo in 3816 while the ennemy bots are only in like 3918/4018, if thoses are even ennemies 🤣

[fierce dirge]

We could put our bets on having more range than the enemy... hopefully

[iron arrow]

i would be down for droppg into that town if big ear is willng

that ? better not be a tank

[south ether]

wel i fear one of the big ? is arty

[left thistle]

We most certainly will… at least in the NW corner when we enter:

• 4 range 2 mbts
• 2 range 2 IFVs (auto cannon upgrade)
• 2 LMs with speed to get right up into their faces
• 1 range 4 artillery battery

[solar bear]

If what we have in the map is factories I betting in heavy transports...

[left thistle]

We could honestly be shooting the closest factory with some units next turn

[left thistle]

it most certainly will be

[left thistle]

Could be this big fast mover’s venator has seen

[feral ivy]

are those large stuctures confirmed as factories?

[left thistle]

Yep! Said as such in the mid-rounds

[south ether]

could be

[left thistle]

Which means if we don’t move fast, we could be facing infinite bot units

[solar bear]

My biggest concern in this map is LOS...

[feral ivy]

kk musta missed that part

[fluid viper]

You wanna build a watch post on a mountain top?

Or for tanks?

[left thistle]

Yeah the mountains surrounding us upon entry aren’t great, tho they do provide cover for us!

[iron arrow]

rabbit will be here too i don't think we have to worry about that

[solar bear]

Not a bad Idea... We can litf one of the tanks to the mountain...

[left thistle]

We have an hvtol that will be free starting next round … 👀

Since they should be able to deploy the arty this round

[fluid viper]

They may not be. Hold on. If we hopscotch the artillery the HVTOL is doing only that

[solar bear]

Is not only the entry point... This map have a lot of hills and buildings...

[left thistle]

-# Lmao sven 👀

[iron arrow]

you saw nothing

[left thistle]

Well they can certainly reach 3917 this round and that should be good enough at least for a round or two after

And that would give the hvtol a round to go pick up and deposit any mbt willing to camp a hill

[fluid viper]

This guy scares me

[left thistle]

The town itself is in the lowlands tho, which means once we get control of the ridgeline we should have full sight lines into the main cluster of buildings

[solar bear]

And we do have a logi that can reposition the arty...

[fluid viper]

If it is a medium mech kind of thing it is a priority target.

[south ether]

both of them scare me

[hazy radish]

Planning planning planning, damn

I just wanna go to 3816 with my MBT and see what happens from there.

Who's with me ?

[fluid viper]

Be like me. Be fat. Plan fantasy battles

[south ether]

well going out for a walk

[feral ivy]

recon is gonna be really important

[fluid viper]

No gym

[fierce dirge]

I would imagine it is a bunker perhaps

[left thistle]

There are three sizes of “?”

What do we think each are?

[hazy radish]

Big size: factory for sure

smoll size: infantry for sure

medium size: ...vehicle ? 🤔

It matches the approximate sizes Adam had for the formation.

(even tho i resized the infantries, fuck you, take the credit)

[left thistle]

Small is inf squad for sure, which once again highlights how comically large the hexes are for this map compared to the scaling for elim lol

[hazy radish]

yup lol

[left thistle]

But yeah, def gonna be relying hard on the LMs for this round

[fluid viper]

You broke the scale? I fought to keep those to scale so much lmao

[feral ivy]

hella invaluble LMs

[hazy radish]

Well, I took the size that was used on elim to be accurate 😅

Like I kept the vehicles' sizes but I was like "that infantry's way too big isn't it", compared it to elim, and yep it was

[left thistle]

Is there anyway we can bring up the scaling discrepancies? Or do we think it is what it is atp?

[hazy radish]

it is what it is

[left thistle]

Fair enough

[hazy radish]

Light mechs are king of recon

[feral ivy]

probably a "no duh" comment but the mechs should probably avoid combat, imo

[rough granite]

i say most of the group gos south to 3716-7 wile me and hanzo gos east to do scouting from the hills

[hazy radish]

sounds like a plan until you guys are stranded alone

we could do 3816 and keep going south-east diagonally

and you guys scouting from 3916/3917 keeping close with us

[fluid viper]

So same orders as last turn for me? Just advance in formation?

[fierce dirge]

Can the MBT's move to 3816 through the mountains?

[hazy radish]

Yup, after moving you'll have no speed since you're 1 speed, so that's it for you sadly

[hazy radish]

I don't see why not ?

I mean, even if cap goes "nuh huh mountains no mbt", we'll still be near the formation and far from the bots to correct the shot next turn.

So, wanna come with me on 3816 buddy ?

[fluid viper]

We could have the VTOL Combat Engineer set up the Artillery Dugout this turn in 3819 right?

Sorry wrong hex.

3917

[hazy radish]

seems dangerous

thoses unknown contacts close to 3917 could jeopardize the whole arty idea

i'm happy with 3916 for the arty, even if we have to move it further manually after that

[fluid viper]

Yeah and the thing on the corner of 3919 may be something range 2

[left thistle]

Usually impassable terrain is marked, so if it isn’t right now I’m assuming it’s traversable

[fluid viper]

We should ask

[rough granite]

I suggest me and hanzo (or at least me) go to 4016 wile being evasive so we can over the mountain

and poseble see whats at 4117

[left thistle]

That sounds good to me

Would you be able to get to 4017 this turn? Bc that would give us eyes on the big contact to the south

[hazy radish]

ay, sounds good to me too

4017 is too close to ennemies i'd say

[left thistle]

Actually nvm

That leaves you too exposed

[hazy radish]

they get to 4017, they get fired uppon by like 4 different hexes

[left thistle]

Yeah just realized. Evasive doesn’t mean invincible lol

[hazy radish]

yeah x)

nanomachines son, but it has it's limitations :P

[rough granite]

so 3917 then

[hazy radish]

4016 is good

like thoses red hexes i've circled feel too close to the ennemies

but the one on 4016 seems like a very good shot

close, but not close enough to get shot unless they come towards us

i mean, towards you with your light mech

[fierce dirge]

Can we still fire with our speed if we move to 3816?

[hazy radish]

Firing doesn't use our speed, so, yeah.

If thoses aren't civies, and all 4 mbts and ifvs are going 3816...

Theses 2 fuckos in 3918 are gonna become morning toast.

(that sounded so fucking badass, is it only me ?)

[fierce dirge]

Precisely what I was thinking 🤣
Maybe we can even fire on the big thing

[hazy radish]

uhmmm

looks at range

[left thistle]

Should be doable for all the range 2 folks

[hazy radish]

...maybe

[left thistle]

Which is all the mbts and two of the IFVs no?

[hazy radish]

Something to note.

Phalanx is speed 1, so they will be coming turn 7 (we are planning for turn 6)

[fierce dirge]

Is range calculated by squares depending on position or like dnd squares?

[hazy radish]

So French if you want to push hard on the first turn just know we will be coming up right behind you and we have medics and an engineer to heal whatever units have been hit
With the factories it’s better to hit them hard and fast

[fluid viper]

Rabbit is split between 2 options. SW and East

[rough granite]

so can i give the order to move to 4016

[hazy radish]

It's like wh40k

[fierce dirge]

mh

[hazy radish]

Basically, the hexes are our scale, but we measure everything like wh40k with the scale of hexes provided

if hexes were bigger
speed & range bigger
if hexes smoller
speed & range smoller

[fluid viper]

I think this means our engineers push hard to get defenses built farther forward if we can. Their engineers can fix any vehicles that take a hit.

[hazy radish]

Yuhuh, sure. Make sure you're in Evasive I'd say to be able to soak more damage if you do get damaged, and off to the races yeah ?

[fluid viper]

Technically you can go anywhere you have the speed to go. The Tac Coms won't stop you. It is just we will voice our opinions.

[hazy radish]

Confirm.

[feral ivy]

inf is just in the "hurry up and wait" formation at this time, just to clarify?

[fierce dirge]

imma just steal your unit order >.>

[fluid viper]

That is the plan

[hazy radish]

hehe, just don't steal my rp x)

[fluid viper]

You can bang on the doors of the IFV telling them to let you out

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[hazy radish]

Think so, we wanna deploy you close to the ennemies, not at 3816 where you'll have to friggin' walk further and further.

[fluid viper]

except reverse

[fierce dirge]

I will be too busy gambling 🙃

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-detective-pokemon-let-me-out-gif-13616228

[hazy radish]

I mean, you're free to do as you wish if you wanna deploy right here and then lol

as long as you got consent of your ifv too, we're bangin'

I just feel personally that it'd be better to deploy you later so you're closer to the fight, but as usual and it'll never be said enough, you are free to do as you wish 👀

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/van-car-fall-fail-good-bye-gif-4218834

[hazy radish]

Hahahaha

Happy to see you active krieg 🤣

[rough granite]

so are we starting on 3716 or 3715

[feral ivy]

unga bunga, im active. the question is if im lucid

[fluid viper]

Not sure

[sleek cedar]

Are we abandoning the VTOLs/HVTOL fly to an advantageous position and deploy myself, an inf, and the arty to create a quick fire base idea? My rationale is that I can burn the 0.5 speed I have after disembarking to build sandbags and which ever infantry that is with me can then upgrade that to a trench. Then the turn after I can fortify the Arty into a pit, all while being able to engage the enemy. The only threat is that either the arty gets engaged instead of the inf and me on turn 1, or I entrench the arty turn 1 and the inf and I get smeared.

[hazy radish]

It's not that we're abandoning, it's more that for now it's either too risky or too far away from the main fighting

the arty is range 4 right ?
If we want it to have a good aim near the middle then we need it at like, what, 3917, 4017 maybe ?
But thoses 2 are close to ennemies, and arty would then become on the frontline instead of being somewhere in the middleline

[fluid viper]

I think arty is range 3

[hazy radish]

And the only thing able to reach on the same turn would either be vtol/hvtol, or the light mechs

[hazy radish]

Yeah, 3, so even closer

The quick deployment arty is a good idea, I love the idea

But let's not quickly deploy arty and one infantry on the fucking frontline with nearly no backup yeah ? 🤣

[fluid viper]

range 4

[hazy radish]

I mean, if you guys want to, once again, you are free to do as you wish

[fluid viper]

I just double checked.

[left thistle]

Nah regular arty is range 4

[fluid viper]

Min range 1

So 1-4 they can shoot

[rough granite]

@hazy radish are we starting at 3716 or 3715

[fluid viper]

we don't know

We where told NW corner

Probably the further north one

[hazy radish]

#1383066706724913293 message

Assume we are deploying as such for the purposes of planning

[sleek cedar]

3816 mountain top puts the arty in range of all factories and out of immediate retaliation of enemy forces.

[hazy radish]

You will have minus 1 speed because we have traveled at 1 speed, meaning your light mech is speed 3 for this turn

I have to go to the gym, I let you guys plan everything, I'll be back in a few hours, bye bye lads !

[fluid viper]

We could do a mountain top arty base in 3816 then and hit everything of relevence

[rough granite]

if i may ask who is hanzo

[feral ivy]

order is in. hope its satisfactory

[fluid viper]

We could set up and see if Rabbit's artillery wants to join us in that and the logi/2 guns/and an engineer could set up a good fire base to control this battle for 3-4 turns

[fluid viper]

@charred swift

[fluid viper]

as a former army medic sometimes we did talk about feelings on long truck rides.

[charred swift]

That is me, I am that guy lol

[rough granite]

are you willg to go on a scouting mishon with me to 4016

[charred swift]

I was literally thinking the same thing and was going to ask if you wanted back up. I'll get the order in!

[rough granite]

yea Meatshield

[feral ivy]

You're not supposed to say that outloud

[steady zephyr]

oh cool my map again

[left thistle]

Ahhh so it was you! Great map!

[onyx basalt]

We're looking for scan targets this turn. Any requests?

[steady zephyr]

Had an itch to add a lot of arrows to a map 🤣

[thorn sand]

So is the firebase in 3916 a go, or…?

[left thistle]

How much can you scan?

[onyx basalt]

We can scan twice and have a com-intercept. Keep in mind we're asking 212 as well so no guarantee we'll pick those exact targets but we will add them to the list

[left thistle]

Gotcha! I think anything east of the 41 line of hexes would be useful for us! We should be able to count everything east of the 41 vertical

[muted eagle]

Right, what happened? I was playing factorio
-# And still am

[gentle trench]

My first thoughts on Crossroads

Impossible to say what anything is for sure until we're all on the deck and fighting, so take it all with a grain of very small salt

[ivory goblet]

so hat would yous like me to do for this round
@sleek cedar where would you like me to drop you off

[solar bear]

I think Rex is right about the possibility of AA... They don't have ships on top off this place...

And it looks like a somewhat important place...

[sleek cedar]

I think we are angling for 3816 to hit everything of relevance.

@iron arrow are you opposed to landing and providing support for a turn or two to the arty as we set up a firebase? After the set up you can reboard your bird to continue the advance.

[iron arrow]

Where would the arty be

[sleek cedar]

Ultimately up to the arty, but I was thinking of 3816 on top of the ridge as that allows for it to engage all three factories and the front half of the town. The arty player was mentioning 3916 as well.

[iron arrow]

Won't people be in front of that anyway?

[rigid oar]

A cover and terrain map has not dropped right? Like is their any benifit to occupying 3817?

[solar bear]

They are buildings soo, I think soo...

[sleek cedar]

People are going to be pushing past that but we can get there and deploy this turn since we aren't impeded by the cost of moving from the nav point like the others. The other vehicles will be able to reach that point but thats it. I figured if we have the ability to get to that spot or a similar one this turn, the arty can be fully ready to go by the next turn once our units pass the point.

[fluid viper]

This is the pain of Shack sometimes posting cover and concealment coded maps.

None of us can use our mental processing skills when he doesnt

I assume the buildings are buildings and the hills are hills

[sleek cedar]

Once the arty determines where they want to go we will be following them so that I can dig them in.

[ivory goblet]

Rogger that

[iron arrow]

Ah well I'm not really about staying there so yeah I won't be there

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-cannon-gif-14801380928410168204

[rigid oar]

I mean i get it. Building all these maps is a lot so I'm not in that much of a rush. The only thing that would be frustrating would be if they dont get posted by time orders are due next cycle as I assume our orders due tomorrow are just going to be "I leave formation" kinda thing.

I assume we are going to want inf to follow any armor going moving towards obj. Probably moving through 3817, 3918, 4018 and then kinda spread into town from their? Though i guess that plan also depends on terrain because if we can go through the mountains it might be beneficial.

[fluid viper]

@odd lake that order has to be advance or you get left behind in the last area. You need to advance into Crossroads then stop. So it is advance to Crossroads (Hex 3716)

[fluid viper]

current plan was infantry stays in the IFVs this turn. The IFVs will be able to get you into the buildings next turn. We are too far back for dismounting now to do anything.

[sleek cedar]

You don't have to stay, just the fact you can forward deploy can help since you would be able to upgrade sandbags I throw down to a trench. Then you can re-board your bird and continue on your way. -0.5 speed to hop out, primary action to upgrade sandbags, -0.5 speed to climb back on your bird. But no worries if that doesn't work for you. Just doing plans upon plans lol

[iron arrow]

I'll consider it and tell you if my other plan doesn't go through

[rigid oar]

If inf are staying in IFV is it still an advance order?

[rapid pond]

Pretty sure it’s a hold

As you aren’t really moving

[thorn sand]

3816 works for me if ARDGN is willing and can get me there.

[rigid oar]

@winter dragon My unit will still be along for the ride wherever you aim to go as long as thats ok with you.

[thorn sand]

The real question I have is: if I bombard the factories does damage for them work the same as for bridges, or can I not damage them at all?

[solar bear]

That is a good question... We can ask Shack that...

[fluid viper]

I would assume if artillery starts slapping the factories it will do damage.

It won't be as effective as day a delayed fuse bomb from an SF unit but it should work.

[thorn sand]

Well I’d assume so too, but I can’t actually do damage to non orbital units and non bridges, so we’ll see how this goes.

[gentle trench]

Hey Iron Hammer! These are our current ideas and plans. We'll see how each group shakes out as players come online and share opinions, we'll do our best to keep you updated. The Northern team (if it ends up happening) would be the most relevant to y'all

[fluid viper]

The only thing I think that really threatens is is that larger question mark on boundary between 3918 and 3919. If your defensive team wants to set up that we can pincer that next turn it may be good.

Outside that getting eyes on stuff and being another thing for the bots to deal with helps us the most.

We have another heavier BG coming in behind us too so we should be good on reinforcements too.

[simple elm]

Whomst summoned me?

[fluid viper]

Oh I pinged you to say you were right about shoulda had more infantry in VTOLs just so they could be in the fight this turn.

[atomic basalt]

Is platoon grouping still a thing? If the other MBT players are interested!

I'm also worried if the mountaintop contacts at like 4117 aren't just AA but also AT emplacements

[thorn sand]

I believe I may have summoned you. If you have the range when we reach crossroads and you are okay with it, would you please fly me to hex 3816 and allow me to unload?

[simple elm]

👍

Have you brought this up with the other VTOL players? Since I believe the others loaded up with the idea of us being able to set up a firebase

[hazy radish]

Woah, only 67 ?

And yet I am tired, I will read this all tomorrow I think 😅

[hazy radish]

Platoon grouping was intended but have not been formalized yet.

Otherwise, up for some 3816 with our other MBT fwiends ? :D

[hazy radish]

Phalanx will be coming on foot right behind us on turn 7

Relevant info for your plans

[gentle trench]

Good to know

[neat fossil]

It’s past midnight for you. Go. To. Sleep!

[muted eagle]

I agree with derg, go to sleep

[hazy radish]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

I must stay awake

I've actually made a really good friend at the gym

How ?

Rafale t-shirt.

Can't fucking make this up. 🤣

[muted eagle]

Rafale?

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/haf-rafale-f3r-hellenic-air-force-airplanes-fighter-planes-αεροπορια-gif-10267176428325419809

Rafale.

Basically: french plane yesyes

[muted eagle]

Ah

[glad hedge]

Anyone here have right to rename this channel? I propose we rename it to "Gamblinggroup 12"

[neat fossil]

Iron Gamble? Gamble Hammer?

[hazy radish]

nooooooooOOOOOOOO

[atomic basalt]

https://youtu.be/pbJOvfCHGv0?si=V2PQqQTQzsXrdA9Q

[hazy radish]

I'll make the order tomorrow. Tomorrow, we gonna delete some bot folks in 3918

If thoses are indeed bots.
If thoses are civies 🦦 well... Let's not make them our morning brewed coffee, and instead offer them one.

[hazy radish]

...okay you guys might be right

Put a yt video, tried listening to 2 mins, i'm lost

good night and see y'all tomorrow for more plans & orders.

I know we've got the MBT planned.

we
3816
big boom

:D

Good night !

[eager carbon]

We just moving forward yeah?

[thorn sand]

I haven’t pinged them about this yet but it’s been tossed back and forth in the chat a bit between them. I’ll ping now and put in the order.

@sleek cedar Just a heads-up, I’ve decided on hex 3816 for the firebase if you’re still okay with that.

[sleek cedar]

Sounds good. I'd say we should specify on top of the mountain just to be sure.

[fluid viper]

If a VTOL after this turn has some spare movement I could use a ride.

[ivory goblet]

So want me to drop you off at 3816 on the mountain too

[sleek cedar]

Yes please

[sour flame]

Planning my order, are we still thinking there's artillery or AA in hex 4117?

I see the other MBT's are advancing to 3816, any objections to me rolling with you?

[muted eagle]

Yeah, I think the tanks sticking together is the plan

[muted eagle]

Gambling Hammers

[dim plaza]

Hey Iron Hammer! So do we have a Plan or are we still deciding? Is there a Poll that I can vote or something ?

[muted eagle]

We probably have one

I just dunno what it is

[dim plaza]

😂
Well I know I got one speed left so I can't go to far

[south ether]

Mostly tanks lm ifvs move forwards, vtol with odt combat engi and arty setup firebase leg infantry and me stay back

And logi stays back

[iron arrow]

@sleek cedar Ik you won't see this for forever but I think one of the ifv infantry could do your job so I'd rather utilise my/big ear's movement

[simple elm]

Aren't Consul combat engineers?

[iron arrow]

They asked me to upgrade sandbags they're building for the arty

[simple elm]

R-FLAG, it just hit me you're facing the wrong direction

South-Southeast is towards the enemy contacts, not South-Southwest

[hazy radish]

Goooooooooood morning hammers !

[iron arrow]

@jolly cloud Would you mind dropping me onto 3817 or next to it so I can run in

[hazy radish]

No, go forth, come join us there :P

[hazy radish]

Oho, arty getting setup and 4 MBTs going in front ? nice nice nice

and i'm caught up !

[simple elm]

🎊

[dim plaza]

Wait I could rush right ? So I could have 3 speed left. I could rush into to city and let Infantry disembark.

[hazy radish]

#1385617845831995402 message @sour flame @fierce dirge @atomic basalt Just posted my order, I've put in a sentence of RP calling you boys on the radio if you guys wanna jump on it for your RP 👀

[hazy radish]

...I think rushing is only available for certain units now, not everyone no ?

Oh no it is a standard order type

...don't know why I imagined rush as being only for certain units

completely took rushing out of the table

You could but it's risky.

[dim plaza]

I could hide behind the the bulding out of line of sight and the Infantry could enter the building

[hazy radish]

sweats in ennemy contacts

[hazy radish]

Sure

I find it risky for my part, especially since when rushing you won't be attacking, but if you feel it's worth it for the infantry you're transporting and they agree, go for it !

(and also take more damage)

[dim plaza]

@feral ivy you want to risk it or just play it safe this round until we know more. I would otherwise drive to south of 3815

[hazy radish]

Tbh other IFVs could also follow you in rushing aswell, we'd have less damage, but if all 3 IFVs go "let's rush there", damage should be split amongst the 3 of 'em

[winter dragon]

If you are rushing i am joining you

[hazy radish]

and we'd have 3 infantries on ground

[hazy radish]

Ayyyyy there we are

[dim plaza]

Jup. I would write it like I would stay out of line of sight so I can't see them and they can't see me and let infantry out.

[hazy radish]

...they might move and be able to see you tho

They may not just stay put

[dim plaza]

Hmm true 😅

[hazy radish]

But, if you do get more IFV buddies with you, that'll split the damage amongst you all

and also would get the infantries into the fight pretty quickly

which could be a good thing since we have phalanx behind us on the turn after that

honnestly if you get all the IFVs and infantries that sounds like a plan lol

[dim plaza]

Waittt there is a Turtel here 😂 where did you come from

[hazy radish]

Late join boi :P

Also gotta think of wraith husky & medtac1 on foot behind, we're gonna have to transport them to the front too.

By taxi ifv or by VTOL

[fierce dirge]

🙃

[dim plaza]

That is true. We could rush them next round towards the front when we know what we are up against.

[hazy radish]

[eager carbon]

every order round i get nervous i have to redo it

[hazy radish]

hahahaha 🤣

No no this one you should be fine don't worry

no more 781 reposts

'been checking through orders

VTOLs and IFVs are gonna have work for next turn to catch medtac1 & husky to speed

[eager carbon]

it will be finnne
i wanna be back line anyway haha

[iron arrow]

oh also if any ifv and inf wanted to dismount next to it and run into 3817 with me that'd be sweet

[hazy radish]

Ay, so we are getting a rush inf deployment in 3817 then ?

@dim plaza has got plans for it, Turtle wanna follow

Unsure of darkhen, and all the other infantries in them 👀

But if you guys are enough IFVs to rush, then getting our infantry deployed in 3817 could be really good, you'd be in the fight pretty early and wouldnt need further transport I recon

Especially since we have an infantry heavy BG that is phalanx behind, the VTOLs & IFVs we have might be busy (if they are willing) to make taxi for them and our troops.

(I honnestly forgot rush order was a thing, and thought it was only for certain units 🤣)

[iron arrow]

if multiple people are going to v3817 i can go to the hex to the right of it and dig indefinitely not bc i have a gif i wanna use

[hazy radish]

3917 ?

you could lol

whoever did the formations had a great idea of putting the battle hungry ODT inside a VTOL for mobility

Who did the formations ? Oh, right, @fluid viper.

(fuck you, take my love and support adam)

[iron arrow]

yeppers

[hazy radish]

made this real quickly

so far this is how it's looking with our ideas and orders I think

roughly

...we might not be getting Phalanx reinforcements

@dim plaza for your ifv idea

[dim plaza]

Oh sweet 👍🏽 looks good. Just us IFV and the Infantrie need to coordinate a little bit on where to go

[hazy radish]

Yup, this is all just plans for me to easily look at or anyone else, need to confirm your plans with everyone else 👀

give 'em a ping, worth to notify them

[south ether]

@muted eagle want to stay back or land with the infantry in the village?

[muted eagle]

I think it's best to stay back for now

And then land wherever I'm needed next turn

[hazy radish]

Hey @winter dragon @solar bear @rigid oar @feral ivy @left thistle !

Numbat, one of your fellow IFVs (and your driver for Kilo) has had an idea !
Rushing the IFVs into Hex 3817 (at the bottom of this image) to deploy the infantries to be able to get them in the fight quickly !

What do you guys think ? 👀

There we got @dim plaza, threw a ping for you & your idea

[south ether]

so we could hang back at 3717?

[muted eagle]

Yep

[south ether]

so we fly south to 3717 facing 3817

[muted eagle]

Yep

[south ether]

that would give us good coverage to drop you of somewhere next turn

[left thistle]

If the other inf are willing, I’m down to rush ahead. But def going to need bodies to spread the damage around

[hazy radish]

So far, turtle (IFV) seems alright with it, you, and numbat

Sven, our ODT, has even expressed a...

[hazy radish]

...slight preference, to come and help out on the hex right besides :P

there was a hungry dog gif but it got deleted at some point I think

(even tho it was really funny)

[left thistle]

Hmmmmmm

I’m open to it

[hazy radish]

noice

let's hope the others are on board before the orders' deadline hits.

[left thistle]

3817 isn’t too far ahead and all of us inf should have enough movement to at least enter buildings this turn. So it’s not that risky

[hazy radish]

risky for the ifvs rushing imo

but if it's good for you lads then fine by me 👀

I am powerless to stop anyone :D

Heck, I'm even spreading the idea

[left thistle]

Shouldn’t be too bad, with 8 units to speed the damage across

[iron arrow]

Goddammit I deleted it bc i thought it wasn't funny

[hazy radish]

nooo i liked it

i just didn't react to it but i saw the gif :(

[rapid pond]

Hammers just tell me you aren’t gonna hit a diamond

[iron arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bark-gif-20068634

Well then

[hazy radish]

SOMEONE KEEP HIM STEADY !!

HE'S GOTTEN 2 HAMMERS INSTEAD OF 1 !!!! ALERT ! ALERT !!

[rapid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-otter-steve-surprised-gif-9092229568732824621

[iron arrow]

Nothing can stop him now

[rapid pond]

Now now, let’s not scare the Lumars

[iron arrow]

I see only cybermen in front of us

[rapid pond]

Well there’s a village to your South

South West*

[iron arrow]

Enemies are open season

[hazy radish]

they might be civilians

[hazy radish]

See, this is why we only give one hammer per unit !

Two and you can go mad like this !

[rapid pond]

French… don’t your unit have 2 hammers

[hazy radish]

no, only one

[rapid pond]

Or did Warmongerer get your units’ collective hammer?

[hazy radish]

...the other one is a squishy one for warmongerer, that doesn't count !

(next turn i'm roleplaying the squishy hammer)

[rapid pond]

You say as I pour the remains of a melted down robot into the hammer

If you get within distance of Zenok I will actually give Warmongerer a real hammer

-# Or maybe one of those laser tag guns

[hazy radish]

o the noes

not a real hammer, he's but a child !

[rapid pond]

Well… not everyone avoids child labour

Pretty sure the robots were fighting are technically made like days ago

So like… they’re technically newborns

[south ether]

One? So I shouldn't have given everyone an hammer?

[hazy radish]

...one per unit, yes ?

[muted eagle]

Who needs more than one hammer when you cam have a hammer and armcomon

[solar bear]

I have the ramp upgrade, @left thistle don't need me to rush to 3817... Unless they really want to to be on the houses in front of the question marks, I can deploy then on 3717 and they cover the rest on foot since they will have all of their movement...

[hazy radish]

wait, upgrades, in this battlegroup ?

this is unheard of

[solar bear]

kkkkk

[hazy radish]

damn that rapid ramp deployment is really good tho

no speed cost for infantry exiting

that rocks

but yeah that works, you go to 3717, rapid ramp, get cr0wn to 3817 on foot

• you get to fire from 3717 because you have the range upgrade

My god, when do I buy an IFV ? shit's good with upgrades

2 range 1d4 AP with easy infantry deployment... I'd just need to find a buddy...

[rigid oar]

That works with me. Hopefully their is some kinda cover bonus for moving through buildings move up to what we believe are scouts.

Also good morning iron hammer!

[hazy radish]

Heh, I guess we got a plan then

Seem all are in agreement exept for Kilo who we don't know for now

Turtle said he'd be up for following the plan earlier.

Sweet stuff.

[rigid oar]

The only thing I would even think of to do instead is maybe send someone along the mountain ridge if we need someone to flank? But I don’t even know if we can do that yet.

[solar bear]

I working at the moment so I will post my order later...

[hazy radish]

@rigid oar

we got some light mechs scouts, and sven who's an hungry dog wanting to deploy on 3917

[rigid oar]

That’s sounds good. Glad someone’s watching my units back. Though I hope we don’t get hit with the “naw you can’t cross this mountain.”. But other then that this sounds like a good plan. Also question for vets has the order due period always been this chaotic?

Or was it more uniform for the last few missions?

[hazy radish]

"this chaotic"

looks at turn 4

...no

otherwise if you mean compared to other campaigns/missions, then it depends on the order's deadline

In dashing the snow mission I was in, we had a good week to plan stuff so it was really chill

C3 was pretty chill too with around 3 days to plan stuff.

[left thistle]

Would I still be able to enter a building if we do it that way?

[hazy radish]

Now, no one tell Iron Hammer, but rabbit's plan are literally nearly going inside the main city and deploying SW

...DAMN YOU, AGILE BATTLEGROUP !!

[left thistle]

I’d like some defense bonus lol

[hazy radish]

Structures / Cover and Forests
Moving into a building as infantry or from room to room of a structure (if it has multiple rooms) costs 0.25 speed. This includes the insides of structures such as Starships or Space Station maps. Infantry gain +1 Armor while inside buildings or woods / forested areas if attacked from the outside of said structure.

0.25 speed, getting dropped from 3717, unlikely

I'm looking at where nordwind is by the deployment and uhm, you'd be on the edge of the hex really

[left thistle]

Ah

[hazy radish]

1 arrow is 1 speed

DAMN YOU, FORMATION !

[solar bear]

I think you can enter the buildings on the edge of 3717, that it...

[hazy radish]

that'd be a slight stretch, but i can accept it

[left thistle]

Maybe I can enter a building right on the edge? Which would still be range 1 away from the enemy?

[hazy radish]

• nordwind can just go diagonally on the right and that'd give you the speed

[left thistle]

Oh yeah why don’t we do that then?

[solar bear]

I can do that too

[hazy radish]

like so

[hazy radish]

dunno my first instinct was "straight then right"

then i went "why dont we just go right directly smh"

removing 0.25 speed and you're around the NW edge of 3817, in a building

[left thistle]

Would that put me in range to engage the peeps on 3918 this turn?

[hazy radish]

nope