Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms

[median epoch]

the organizing and the mapping and the rules clarifications are all separate beasts

[hazy radish]

is this atlas ?

[median epoch]

Orange = IH, White = Atlas

[hazy radish]

• Organizing
• Rules clarification
• Coordination with taskforce atlas & battlegroup storm
• Checking orders and making sure they're legal
• Getting fucked after orders deadline because some apparently aren't legal
• Tac-mapping
• Orbital & air deployment
• Ground deployment too

[median epoch]

Don't forget complaining!

That's like 50% of it

[hazy radish]

Ye but who's star ?

[median epoch]

Atlas Engi

[hazy radish]

which unit is he in here

[hazy radish]

alright!

so I can remove him from me map then ?

[median epoch]

or leave him in

[hazy radish]

...

[median epoch]

it's a joint op, Shack can figure it out

[hazy radish]

whichever's the best for shack ?

[hazy radish]

fair enough

[eager lichen]

no, no it won't

cries in trying to coordinate 1 TF and 5 BGs

[hazy radish]

Oh yeah you are not getting more then 3 groups to coordinate on a plan in such a tight space

[median epoch]

My suggestion for that:

Pick a direction to go. Say you're going that direction. Never change.

[hazy radish]

GOD I FAINTLY REMEMBER EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TIGHT SPACE AND US OFFERING SOLUTIONS AND LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH ALL OF US IN A TIGHT SPACE

HAS SHACK LEARNT NOTHING FROM C3 😭

[median epoch]

-# you're complaining and panicking again

-# chill

[hazy radish]

Spoiler: he has learned things obviously, several routes have been opened

But still 🤣

[median epoch]

Just do the map as best you can and submit it

[hazy radish]

as per usual

[fluid viper]

Oh good the fighters are in atmosphere

Shooting at VTOLs that probably means the HATs live

(pending frigate death)

[hazy radish]

Aight... how's this look ?

[fluid viper]

pretty

[median epoch]

Frickin' Gorgeous

I like your notations a lot

I gotta start doing more curvey arrows

[sleek cedar]

Sorry had a work meeting. Yes looks good

[hazy radish]

Did the meeting work a lot ?

[hazy radish]

Curvey is justice !

-# isn't it flat is justice originally ?

[solar bear]

@hazy radish map's are always good to look at kkk

[sleek cedar]

It was a fiscal year update, so boring and pointless

[hazy radish]

Damn.

I can tell you about Iron Hammer's fiscal year update

+5 req for every member after this mission's over

How's that sound ?

[sleek cedar]

So down. finally get to make my shield-bearing PAI for a roman vibe lol

[fluid viper]

Im hoping for a christmas bonus that comes a few months early too

[hazy radish]

hehehe nice

[eager lichen]

as a person who works in admin and moonlights in finance, I agree with the boring part but disagree with the pointless part

[fluid viper]

An extra REQ goes a long way

[sleek cedar]

I work in finance and moonlight in admin and am the only financial representative for my department who was here last year lol so it was my boss telling me about all the things I did this past year and what I get to do next year

[hazy radish]

I'm gonna go make myself some food now lol

later lads

[eager lichen]

Ah.

[sleek cedar]

Pretty much

[fluid viper]

2 attacks on the frigate have now missed

how many can we afford?

[solar bear]

We only attacked the Vulture 3 times for now... 2 bombers and one autocannon

[left thistle]

I so wish the shields would provide +1 defense in general for the PAI themselves and not just an an armor bonus when in melee

[median epoch]

2

[left thistle]

Oh dear

[median epoch]

😐

Don't despair
-# yet

[left thistle]

Hopefully someone else takes the frigates hmg fire so at least the HATS can make it down

[hazy radish]

I have eaten, back

So, if the orbital does not die, none of our orders go through yeah ? @median epoch

of iron hammer's orders*

[median epoch]

dunno, I'll wait for midrounds to finish before predicting the future

[hazy radish]

Welp, still gonna write it in then

[median epoch]

I think worst case, the submission is exactly the same next turn?

but if it can happen this turn, great

better to have it done now

[left thistle]

Well technically the hats can still make it right?

[fluid viper]

If the Frigate lives that is real bad for Storm.

It means no reinforcements, more bots, and we likely take hits in space.

[hazy radish]

#1386030427130564769 message

it's in

THIS DAY OF PAIN HAS NOT BEEN FOR NOTHING

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[left thistle]

Uh

Wrong frigate French…

[hazy radish]

oh

is it ?

[rigid oar]

Nooooo

[hazy radish]

are you sure ?

[left thistle]

Yeah that’s the one by lussan

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[left thistle]

the wounded bot frigate that fled the battle of the gate

Big sad 😭

[hazy radish]

Aight you guys ping me with the bad or good news, i'm done for today

i've had enough emotional rollercoasters and pain of mapping for today

[left thistle]

Thank you for your hard work!

Rest well

[hazy radish]

Pretty much yes 🤣

[tired jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hug-hugs-happy-hug-hug-friend-hug-gif-4606955245193927037

[sleek cedar]

True but I get to do a two man team where someone can be behind me with some form of heavy weapons and be tanky-er.

[glad hedge]

I appreciate you joining in Victorum's victory hehe

[hazy radish]

Yes yes, of course !

[glad hedge]

-# I left a gift in the google sheet 🍒🔔7️⃣

[rigid oar]

Gambling

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-problem-danny-de-vito-gif-15996554

[fluid viper]

I have just looked at the rules. I don't know if any of our Engineers can paradrop lol

The parachuting rule is only under infantry

And light vehicles

@hazy radish what do?

[left thistle]

I think they would count as infantry

But at this point, just leave it

[onyx basalt]

Infantry squads, medics, and engineers are all considered infantry. They can paradrop. We did it in New Braven.

[fluid viper]

Ok good to know.

[hazy radish]

engineers are infantry

you're clear

[hazy radish]

Now I gotta see this before heading to bed...

Also put in the new Iron Hammer patch onto the preface aswell 🔨

OH MY GOD @glad hedge THAT IS AMAZING 🤣 🤣

WAIT IT FUCKING WORKS ???

IT FUCKING

WORKS

ZAOJDMLDAZKD

🤣 🤣

HOWWWWWWWWW ?

HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ?

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/raxdflipnote-meme-gif-3914937335619787342

[neat fossil]

Browser based gambling?!

[hazy radish]

Oh my fucking god

SEE? SEE?

[glad hedge]

It is actually addicting cus I tried for quite some time to get an Ultra Rare Shiny just to get a screenshot lmao

[hazy radish]

THERE IS BUT ONE MAN TO RULE THEM SHEETS LIKE HE DOES

THY FATTY_MCFATFAT

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tip-hat-jack-sparrow-gif-18080055

[hazy radish]

I swear I'm halfway tempted to make a post in #meta-comm to advertize your google sheet skills lmao

How long did this take you ?!

Where can I find you to kiss you ?!?

[glad hedge]

A few hours or something?

[hazy radish]

holy fuck

[glad hedge]

The majority was in doing the funky decorating lmao

[hazy radish]

lmao

[glad hedge]

Come to the Netherlands!

[hazy radish]

argh ! a bit far !

I swear there's someone just spamming the check button not even caring about rewards 🤣

Gamblinnnnnnnnnng

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/old-people-pressing-buttons-old-people-gambling-old-people-gif-7532496304787656770

This is actually me

[hazy radish]

bwahahah

[glad hedge]

I spam my click to get a ultra rare shiny

[hazy radish]

lol

[glad hedge]

And of course I click too fast and it is gone before I register it

[neat fossil]

Someone skipped a PAI, that’s all I know.

[glad hedge]

I took a screenshot earlier lmao

[hazy radish]

This is amazing.

Okay, I can go to sleep on a good note knowing we have been blessed by the spreadsheet wizardry of Fatty_Mcfatfat

(also, god, get a better username someday please I beg 🤣)

[glad hedge]

NEVAAAAHHHHH

[fluid viper]

(Now French never sleeps for there is gambling to be done)

[eager lichen]

This. We may want to redirect Medics, though. No point in dropping them on the dead.

[fluid viper]

This randomly popped up on another server I am on and it just kinda fits fighting the bots (even though it is just an anti AI thing)

[left thistle]

That header is breaking my brain a bit 😭

“Born to create A.I. is a fuck”

How am I supposed to read that lmao

[fluid viper]

I honestly don't know it is just kinda funny

[tired jewel]

Smashing!

[onyx basalt]

"I am art man" also goes hard

[rigid oar]

Engineers have the infantry keyword

would not make sense that they could not paradrop.

It says that an infantry rather then an infantry squad fills a HAT spot so i would assume any unit with the infantry tag can go into a HAT and presumable paradrop out.

I guess this is the problem with having the [Infantry] key word and a unit called Infantry Squad. Would probably clear up confusion if it was like "Every unit with the [Infantry] key word can do this" or rename infantry squad into like assult squad and say "Assult Suads can jump out of a HAT"

[eager lichen]

All INF-type units can. If you look closely, ENGI and Medics are subtypes of Infantry.

[rigid oar]

Yeah. I wish the used the tag system more to clear up confusion.

[muted eagle]

Ah fuck, I was trying out the new thing in the sheet and I accidentally broke it when trying to see how it works 😅

I should not do this stuff on phone

[left thistle]

Say sike rn

[muted eagle]

I wish I could 😅

[muted eagle]

I'll figure out how to fix it or something

[old lark]

Have any other important changes been made to it since? Otherwise you can just revert to the previous version

Could do it right now if you want

[muted eagle]

Oh thank god, I never noticed that you can restore older versions

@willow epoch We have improved gambling now!

[dim plaza]

I just noticed that there is a huge ? in the top left of Elmcity. Do we now if it's the enemy destroyer in Orbit or what is that ?

[neat fossil]

We don’t know. I think its an orbital, but we don’t know and that scares me.

[hazy radish]

Oh.

That must be an orbital yeah.

and good morning iron hammer !

[dim plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-gif-15291718235185428481

Let's hope it's the destroyer in Orbit

[hazy radish]

I mean, last time there was something transparent, it came down...

[muted eagle]

I don't like the possibility of it being an orbital

[rapid pond]

I mean it shouldn’t…

If it was the PDF should’ve told us

[hazy radish]

Hey guys, look what I found in Pathfinders' chests !

[muted eagle]

👀

[hazy radish]

I feel like you're interested seeing your profile picture...

If we made a gambling python script, can we make a multiplayer UwU Uno script ? 🤣

*but armco themed, ofc

[neat fossil]

uhh, how about no....
-# if you make an ARMCO themed uwu I will lose it
When I finally stop procrastinating, I'll work on a GUI for ARMCOmon.

[hazy radish]

Hohoho!

[neat fossil]

I think you'd be best off asking our resident spreadsheet magician FattyMcFatFat

[hazy radish]

BET

@glad hedge

🤣

[rapid pond]

Oh noooo

[neat fossil]

I mean... it should be pretty doable...

[rapid pond]

I don’t know ‘bout that

Also how tf do you play multiplayer on a spreadsheet?

[neat fossil]

Uhh, theoretically doable at least.

[neat fossil]

Google sheets. He did make a gambler on it.

[glad hedge]

Program Uno in a spreadsheet? That is above my paygrade lmao

[rapid pond]

ikr

[hazy radish]

...but you're not paid

[neat fossil]

Time to get Iron Hammer to run a fundraiser. 🤣

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-stutter-serious-gif-13651284

[hazy radish]

We need to find capable people... Unite all the armco devs to make an uno on a spreadsheet.. 🤣

[glad hedge]

I am not even sure it is doable, because you would need some kind of iterator that updates every time a turn is taken and I dont think google sheets has such an update functionality

[hazy radish]

aw

damn

or

you manually make the iterator with a check 🤣

check box i mean

[neat fossil]

I don't think we really to track turn number per se though... We could use a table to track players and who's turn it is.

I dunno, I'm not a spreadsheet wizard.

[hazy radish]

See ? See ? It's possible !

I swear we've waited less then 24 hours and we're already going crazy again with ideas

What is this, Iron Hammer ?!

[neat fossil]

Anyways I must sleep. Its almost 11 here.

[hazy radish]

oh, nighty night then !

[eager carbon]

Did we die yet?

[hazy radish]

No !

So far we're in limbo while waiting for shack to come back for milk midrounds

[eager carbon]

Good good
Glad to hear

[hazy radish]

yup :)

So, how many reposts did you make for your order now ? Did you keep track ? 🤣

[muted eagle]

Atleast 4 for me

[muted eagle]

Or

We add it to the spreadsheet

[hazy radish]

👀

[eager carbon]

6 i beleive

[hazy radish]

damn

let's call off the shot per order reposted as you said then

[eager carbon]

yeahhh
lets hope its only this time that happens hahha

[hazy radish]

I hope aswell

Everyone will be pinged when orders open again, the worst is over for sure

either we land, or we don't and we just have to repost the same orders

[eager carbon]

sounds good to me

for now
tis time for sleep

[fluid viper]

Can someone ping me when our relevant mid rounds go up?

[hazy radish]

@mewhenourreleventmidroundsgoup

can't find him on discord :(

but i'll try to think of it if i'm here when the midrounds are up lol

[left thistle]

😠

Everyone boo this man

Boooooooooooooo

[hazy radish]

D:

[rapid pond]

Shack is prob busy

[left thistle]

It is a holiday in America rn

-# and yet I’m still working 😭

[onyx basalt]

Yep! One of the few big ones lol. That sucks!, Chiderella!

[solar bear]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-face-emo-emotional-raining-gif-16549214

[hazy radish]

Heads up, we'll need a formation when we leave elim city.

it's a problem for future us but, still a good information to have in mind

so when elim city will be close to closing we'll need to gather that

[tired jewel]

Good Morning

oh this isn't meta chat WELL GOOD MORNING ANYWAYS you folks are awesome

[hazy radish]

lol

all good, good morning nalla !

[fluid viper]

That probably won't be for 2-3 turns. We have to land, then secure Elim, then form up and go.

I think we are almost certainly in Elim until it is only a strategic point.

[hazy radish]

yup

[fluid viper]

It is one reason I don't know if Redwall pushing hard to join us is smart.

Between Storm and IH we should be able to win this battle without more help and our goal should be getting other problems fixed.

[winter dragon]

Do we know that civilians have guns?

[left thistle]

Local militia/law enforcement do, not sure about anything else

[old lark]

As a counterpoint, what else is there? The Listening Post is currently invested by two battlegroups, Cell'Dar Mine is going to be invested by Venator with Spearhead a single turn behind them, and no one else can land anywhere except the Elim Spaceport. Rushing to back you up is also rushing to get to every other problem we know about.

[muted eagle]

@hazy radish It's happening! Hopefully Atlas does manage to take down that frigate 🤞

[fluid viper]

I think Vulture confirmed died.

[rigid oar]

How is iron hammer doing today?

[fluid viper]

No idea

Trying to figure out what happened that Redwall made it this turn.

[left thistle]

Lmao if red wall made it this turn, vulture is dead

Kinda funny they’re deploying before us tho

[fluid viper]

I think Shack has to gift them a minimum 0.5 extra speed for them to be able to land anyone.

We barely could land and where much closer

[left thistle]

Eh whatever at least we won’t take the brunt of it anymore

I also think us putting in our orders last night be part of the reason

We are way down the timeline compared to red wall lol

[left thistle]

Oh wait, there might not be much for us to do by the end of this lmao

[median epoch]

Perhaps they were able to take a "grease the engines" action thing like the other transports.

And yea, vulture has to be dead for them to have landed or something weird is going on lol

[left thistle]

Turn order is a little wonky but whatevs lol

[muted eagle]

Yeah, this is really confusing me, because redwall lands... Then atlas arrives...?

[left thistle]

They must’ve rly juiced the engines or something 😂

I’m actually gonna be pretty mad if we take all of the damage despite them getting there first

[muted eagle]

Yeah because they'd need like, 10 speed or something insane like that, probably even more

[left thistle]

He must be going by when the orders were submitted, bc I think us and atlas were last

But then also, he had to have done atlas before redwall to come to the conclusion that the frigate was gone?

[muted eagle]

Yeah

And if the frigate wasn't gone, then they'd need 10 speed in order to get to above Elim city and go down to dock at the spaceport 😅

I swear if the frigate doesn't actually die

[left thistle]

Yeahhhh, think we may have found the player max for Shack with these big games 😅

From what I saw there was also some funky stuff when storm was deploying and whatnot

@fluid viper does what Dresden’s saying actually make sense to you?

[fluid viper]

No

I am not going to fight about it though.

[hazy radish]

lemme catch up

[left thistle]

Fair, it just seems like an arbitrary decision made to legitimize a mistake

[hazy radish]

#midround-events message

a-a-and us ? :(

[muted eagle]

I'll be honest, idfk what's going on right now

[hazy radish]

like did redwall's orbital just gun for it ???

without dying ?

tf ?

[left thistle]

Yeah that’s what we’re all confused about lmao

[muted eagle]

Redwall shouldn't have had the speed to get there with the frigate still there, but they still did anyway

[rapid pond]

French

[left thistle]

By all accounts (and the rules) they shouldn’t have made it this turn

[rapid pond]

It was a mistake technically

[fluid viper]

They didnt have speed for this even without a tactical map I am pretty sure. We barely did and where closer.

[rapid pond]

But we seem to be rolling with it

[hazy radish]

what ???

oh for fuck sake

[rapid pond]

Shack prob forgot we were doing a battle here so gave them 3 strategic movement (or 2) instead of shoving them onto the tactical map and giving the remaining movement as tactical stuff

[left thistle]

Less that we’re rolling with it and more that Dresden seems to putting up an allstar level performance trying to defend it lol

[rapid pond]

He stopped

[left thistle]

Right but this feels like an arbitrary addition to the rules

[rapid pond]

As Atlas declared to fight the enemy orbital. Redwall is forced to decelerate to standard battle speed

[hazy radish]

lol

[hazy radish]

yeah, i'm not crazy !

[rapid pond]

Dresden is amazing at defending rules

But sadly Shack probably didn’t think about that when doing those events

[left thistle]

Like this is what the orbital and strategic map rules say:

All units of a group must move off the edge of a map to move to the next point if a tactical battle is underway.

And a tactical battle is most certainly underway

[hazy radish]

well, you guys go argue about it in #meta-comm, i've got enough of an irl headache

if the ennemy orbital dies this works anyways

if not...

people are gonna be pissed

who's people ?

All the BGs with speed 3 npc orbitals
...and us, I guess

[left thistle]

The enemy orbital has lrms too lmaoooo

So redwall 100% would have been getting shot

[muted eagle]

Yeah

And can't like... Enemy fighters... Also shoot at them...?

[hazy radish]

Wow, massive shack blunder.

[muted eagle]

Ngl, I'm kinda demoralised by this all 😅

[hazy radish]

Meh, I have enough of a headache that I'm more of an "if the orbital dies, this is fine, if not, problems are gonna happen"

[rapid pond]

That’s… valid
However Shack scripted them to descend

[hazy radish]

Honnestly don't blame anyone here getting mad at what the fuck just happend

If anything, I should be the one getting the most pissed rn if i didnt have this headache

[rapid pond]

It’s a weird one as they should have already descended towards the surface at this rate

[hazy radish]

I've been spending literal days making maps, learning rules, remaking map, making plans, checking orders

[rapid pond]

French

[hazy radish]

and now an invalid plan passes by with plot armor through ennemy orbital

like

THE FUCK

[left thistle]

Yeah I’m fighting this now

[hazy radish]

But, we'll see.

[rapid pond]

Being real

[hazy radish]

Thing is, it's not like we can do shit about it now I guess.

[left thistle]

Probably not

[hazy radish]

Like, unless shack was pinged and notified as first redwall action happend, it's either roll with it or rollback literally everything

[left thistle]

Well not rly actually

[hazy radish]

And it's not like we can threaten to leave or do anything, "oh yeah 30/500 players leaving, sure lol"

so, we're stuck with this

sucks.

[left thistle]

He hasn’t resolved any of the elim ground actions yet

[hazy radish]

sucks less if the orbital dies and we can land 🤣

[left thistle]

So he could just mulligan it since all the enemies would still be around

[old lark]

You could blame Tabby for not smacking him. Seems mean, though

[left thistle]

But yeah it’s pretty fucking annoying to hear that we could’ve just gone “la la la la. I can’t hear you” to the frigate and then made it planet side without all the headache 😭

[hazy radish]

Yes.

Yes. So fucking much.

[winter dragon]

They used VTOLs as transport right?

[hazy radish]

Someone hold me back or I'm posting something I should not in #meta-comm 🤣

[left thistle]

Nope one of those npc freighter

Just post it here lol

[hazy radish]

He can still see it lol

I'm starting to slowly realize what has happend now xD

pack o' cold on head helps

[rapid pond]

French

[old lark]

Don't do it, French! It's not the right gamble!

[muted eagle]

It's always the right gamble

[old lark]

(just let Redwall get shot up)

[left thistle]

I doubt he’d rly look but yeah, probs best not to say anything

[rapid pond]

Quick vivian livestream some gambling

[muted eagle]

Even the dice thinks so (19)

[old lark]

I don't trust your dice, Dice

[hazy radish]

lol

[rapid pond]

let me roll my dice

[hazy radish]

If the orbital dies and our plan executes it's okay

[rapid pond]

My dice says 8

[old lark]

I got a 55

[muted eagle]

I will admit, my dice is a biased one, but it changes which number it's biased to every time

[left thistle]

It’d be really funny if IH still takes the damage like we landed first… wouldn’t it?

[muted eagle]

(The biased dice is also known as Avrae)

[hazy radish]

If not, that means:

1. I've wasted 6+ hours of my life on this (which in itself is annoying, but not shack's fault)
2. Some group has gone with plot armor through an ennemy orbital taking no boarding casualties landing unabaded who as chinderella said went "lalala cant hear you" and made it planet side to drop while we couldn't

[old lark]

Wait, did you want my nice dice or my cool dice?

[hazy radish]

I'm not blaming redwall

...but I'm not saying I'm blaming no one. 🤣

So that orbital better die or I will kick shit up.

[rapid pond]

Does anyone have a good idea on how to distract an angry frenchman?

I know some random guy from Prussia would work, but I dunno where we’d find one

[left thistle]

Let’s see both?

[hazy radish]

lol

[left thistle]

Quick, everyone to the IH spreadsheet! There’s gambling!

[rapid pond]

I’m on mobile :(

I can’t gambleeeeee

[left thistle]

You can, just be more careful than Vivian 👀

I’ve been doing all of this on mobile lol

[hazy radish]

300 like C3 ? 🤣

#midround-events message don't tell me...

[left thistle]

LETS GOOOOOO

[muted eagle]

Hell yeah!

[hazy radish]

That's Consul !

[old lark]

Nice dice, cool dice (they worry me)

[muted eagle]

d100s are the best sort of dice

[left thistle]

Are the top ones carved from wood???

[rapid pond]

I;m dumb

how do ya get there

[old lark]

No, they're just plastic. But they're nice to me

[rapid pond]

@hazy radish

[left thistle]

Lmao okay shack has been watching meta-comm

[hazy radish]

HE KNOWS!

HE KNOWS !

IM LESS PANICKED

[left thistle]

He just resolved things in a funky way

[rapid pond]

He’s praying this kill happens

[hazy radish]

aren't we all ?

[left thistle]

Is it weird that I kinda want the kill to not happen 😂

[muted eagle]

YES

[left thistle]

Eyyyyyy let’s go! Redwall takes the damage for us!

[hazy radish]

for karma ? almost

[hazy radish]

Yay ? 🤣

[left thistle]

Nah more for the ego boost of being the first ones to reinforce storm

[old lark]

I mean, Redwall's almost as furry as Pathfinders, right?

[hazy radish]

Amen

Problem solved.

[left thistle]

If you can’t tell already I get a little too immersed into these games 😂

[hazy radish]

no clue, never been in their comms.

[muted eagle]

I mean, how do you determine if a battlegroup is furry?

[hazy radish]

looks at pathfinders & southpaw

[old lark]

There are two methods: one, if their members are furry (Pathfinders). Two, if their name suggests an entirely animal population (Redwall)

[old lark]

Hi there, neighbor!

[muted eagle]

How many of their members need to be furry for it to count as furry?

[old lark]

Mmmm... at least 3

[muted eagle]

Alright

[hazy radish]

Enni makes one for storm

[muted eagle]

How many furries do we have in here?

I count atleast 1 right now

[hazy radish]

Who's the 1 ?

[muted eagle]

Me

[old lark]

Hey, you can't count me

[hazy radish]

a

oh, cat ears.

riiight.

[old lark]

nyah

[muted eagle]

Nah, the cat ears came before being a furry

[rapid pond]

Question

[muted eagle]

Yes?

[rapid pond]

Would a dread horn, count as a furry?

[old lark]

Hmm... I'd say so: scary furry is still furry

[rapid pond]

Well… we have it folks, my protagonist is a furry

[old lark]

One of uwus! One of uwus! One of uwus!

[rapid pond]

Sadly they’re the only one as the other 3 are robots

Anyhow I’m off g’night

[old lark]

Goodnight!

[hazy radish]

woh boy !

[left thistle]

Here’s hoping we don’t get shredded on the hill 🙏

[muted eagle]

Wish you guys luck

[hazy radish]

yup same

i have a blitherin' fokken headache so i'm gonna head to sleep and read the chaos tomorrow lol

[muted eagle]

Goodnight French!

I'll open up the orders for you once the midrounds are done

[hazy radish]

& ping everyone to start planning lol

10 ping/msg, just something to let people know "hello, orders due in X hours, you're all pinged so we get a headstart and start planning better then just 3-4 hours before the deadline lol"

thanks vivian

[fluid viper]

Goal for orders will probably be just spread out and clear around the space port right?

We got Southside and Redwall goes north?

[left thistle]

Probably

[fluid viper]

Except for the people in odd spots like Dice?

[left thistle]

I’m having last minute regrets about my deployment rn, the tac map looks like I’m dropping right on the bot squads lmao

Oh well

[fluid viper]

It means we get to fight.

And remember they are moving too.

The hill may be clear as we land.

[left thistle]

True that was what I was planning on, I’m just getting more jittery the longer we go with out seeing them move haha 😅

But so far so good! Having redwall down is going to be even better for damage spreading

I knew it was going to be a little confusing lol

[fluid viper]

Captain calling out my order is funny

[muted eagle]

I believe the plan was to get our artillery to force the infantry to move out of that tile, clearing space for all of you

[left thistle]

Oh right! Totally forgot about that 😅

Well anyway we might be having a cage match with them depending on if shack decides to resolve the paratroopers on Atlas’ map before looking at Hammer’s

It’ll certainly be a fun round for us!

[round stag]

here come the engineers with a steel chair

[left thistle]

Let’s gooooooooooo

Not even that much damage either!

[fluid viper]

We win those cage fights!

[left thistle]

I do love that he depicted it as my guys dropping in front of them, digging in and then turning around to blast the shit out of them lol

Not the way I pictured it going but hey, whatever works

[iron arrow]

Lmao i wasn't aware my callsign was Sven

i also don't know what i did for the second campaign in a row...

[muted eagle]

Opening orders right now because I ain't staying up any longer

So goodnight Iron hammers!

See you all in the morning

[left thistle]

Night

[fluid viper]

Alright so I think this turn I am repairing VTOLs in all likelihood

[fluid viper]

Hey do we want to volunteer as cleanup in the space port? They need 3.

Between Storm, US and maybe Atlas we can do it and plan our next actions.

[fluid viper]

Storm is for sure hanging about from the sound sof it.

Rabbit is for sure going to Crossroads High Orbit.

[eager lichen]

For 1 round, at least.

We'll be voting for our plans after.

[eager lichen]

BATTLEGROUPS OPERATING IN ELIM GROUND AO

A new tab, "CONTACTS" has been added to the Elim Ground Coordination Sheet.

If you can make it to an unknown contact, please investigate it. Make sure to mark yourself down as investigating that contact.

NOTE: Multiple people can investigate an unknown contact - however, please try to take an unclaimed contact first.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

[left thistle]

If only for the sake of our speed, I’d vote for cleaning up in elim first

We’d probably save more time cleaning everything up in elim and then being able to move at strategic speed rather than all trying to move towards the right side of the map

[fluid viper]

So us and Storm?

We need 1 more. Either Atlas or Redwall makes the most sense.

[left thistle]

At the least it’d amount to the same amount of time overall

Yeah, also kinda depends on what “aid the locals” means

Bc we might rly need atlas’ logistical capabilities

Or at least flying shovels

[eager lichen]

REDWALL is staying for at least 2 turns, it seems.

[fluid viper]

They are voting on it.

[eager lichen]

Even if they want to leave, they still need to spend at least 2 turns getting of the TACMAP.

[fluid viper]

No we are not a TAC Map anymore from the sound sof it so long as 3 groups help out.

He is hand waving Elim at this point as won.

[eager lichen]

Ah.

[fluid viper]

Yeah kinda boring but cuts down logistical overhead by a ton for him.

[solar bear]

I'm thinking in going south to help de civvies... Probably do their extraction...

[left thistle]

Would you have enough speed to pick me up at the hill first? I’d love to help

-# and reserve my spot for when we move on

[thorn sand]

The big contact in the Northeast in the large building might be a large group of civvies?

[tawny flame]

Is Droes T1 in the Northwest of Elim City y'all's LM?

[solar bear]

I don't think I can do that and be able to help then...

[solar bear]

That a can do later...

[left thistle]

Hahaha yeah
-# that was never the main point to begin with 👀

[eager carbon]

You all just tell me who needs heals and i will do my best to heal with my medical corps

[left thistle]

Uhh maybe? We’ve got a rose

[eager lichen]

Which side of the starport are you on again?

[eager carbon]

south west side
I healed RHINO last turn

3217

[eager lichen]

Would you be willing to heal STAINZ? 5/6FS right now.

They are on the West side, you should be in range.

[eager carbon]

possibly
i think there is medics either heading there or on that side already though i think

[atomic basalt]

do any armor units want to pile into the northwest corner into that large ? since many of us are close and can move along the roads

[fluid viper]

Confirmed no TAC MAP needed for Elim City next turn if we stay here @hazy radish @muted eagle

As far as orders we don't need to do all the moving around stuff I think.

I am just going to do orders Hold on the Hill Repair anything that comes my way.

[timid jolt]

Hello Iron Hammer. I am Talon 1, a VTOL of Storm. Just wondering if you need supplies dropped off

[fluid viper]

The hill could use 3-5 small supply for the 2 engineers here (1 is ours the other is Atlas)

[median epoch]

Atlas can restock in orbit 🙂

Also, good shit, Hammers! Thanks for putting up with the crazy planning, glad it all worked out and you made it to ground

-# I stowed a case of Champagne in ADRGN's supply cabinet. Go nuts.

[fluid viper]

Or I can dig an artillery dugout on the hilltop since it doesn't look like any vehicles need repair (only 1 damaged VTOL left)

[left thistle]

Couldn’t hurt rly

At 4fs I’m debating whether it would be better to get heals or scout the surroundings for survivors

If I do the latter I’m def gonna need someone to come with

[fluid viper]

We need to swing West and we need someone to clear the south east. That civvie convoy just got out of Crossroads and now may run into bots

[left thistle]

Exactly what I’m thinking. Def want to make sure that the contacts to the west are all civies

[fluid viper]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

I think we should take that West group of 5 for sure.

[thorn sand]

Should I pack up my artillery piece since there’s nothing I can realistically shoot that’d be worth it or should I just hold for the next couple of turns?

[dim plaza]

So are we staing in Elim City or are we moving out?

[muted eagle]

Fucking hell we rolled poorly on healing Enni

Two medics healing Enni, both rolled a 1 it seems

[rapid pond]

Maybe read it again

Either the 2nd medic healed someone else or Enni was hit with a d3

[muted eagle]

I don't think there was anything else around for the other medic to really heal, and it seems like the healing happened after everything around the spaceport was already obliterated 😅

[hazy radish]

#midround-events message d-did I just not get deployed ?

#campaign-briefing-room message AY IM ON THE MAP

no midrounds for us tho, seems like as usual first midrounds don't include iron hammer much :(

[hazy radish]

...we're speed 1, aren't we better moving along ?

speed 1 moving along, and speed 2+ who can catch up staying here

[hazy radish]

Neat.

[hazy radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383066706724913293/1390388740563927081/1375083450784157736.gif?ex=686a0e2b&is=6868bcab&hm=01b33b0b399b3e5950530aa57dc9811cce337548b145d78965316211294b6ff6&

[hazy radish]

shrugs we don't know yet

wait wait @muted eagle isn't the deadline in 12 hours from now ? not 36 ? looking at the orders

Orders from Players Due Sunday, Wednesday 00:00 or 6PM EDT

It says orders due sunday, not monday D:

Well, anyways

[rapid pond]

I’m sorry French, but me and you are side characters

We’re not important enough

[glad hedge]

Orders deadline is Sunday at midnight in CEST, so 36-ish hours from now

[rapid pond]

Just a note on why it’s confusing for you here
Shack did it as a collective thing so didn’t want to do 2 different times, as such he forgot the confusion it could cause if someone is 6+ hours ahead of him

-# Basically in the future if it in your timezone says a time earlier than what Shack says in his own time, assume it means midnight (at the start of the day after it is ‘supposed’ to happen)

[hazy radish]

@iron arrow @dim plaza @jolly cloud @left thistle @lost elk @muted eagle @rough granite @feral ivy @ivory goblet @south ether

Hello hello, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in 36 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1751839200:F> (<t:1751839200:R>) !

So what's the plan ? Good question, we don't know ! Which is why there is a poll my message is answering to that will close in about 8 hours from now to know what the fuck we're doing.

Our options:

• We could go to L-H and get to Crossroads, as the original objective that Iron Hammer was. This will require getting a formation up.
• We could stay in Elim City for now and help civilians, while it is nice I do feel (personally, my opinion is not law) that we have many other BGs with better speed then us that could stay and catch up later, while we only are speed 1
• Go to hill mine with Dwarf Fortress. I mean, nothing says we can't. This will require getting a formation up.
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Nerys Village. Tho, it would be an another airdrop, which will be a mighty headache again for me, and will be dangerous & complicated to airdrop us since Nerys Village does not have an starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Crossroads. It'll be faster but again, might be risky since there might be bots in L-H cutting our reinforcements, and air dropping again with complications since, it doesn't have a starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement

Voilà, please vote on the poll, and you are free to debate and speak your mind out. There will be another ping in roughly 12-24 hours to remind you of Armco's existence, and updates on the situation/plans we've decided on hopefully !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

[hazy radish]

@rigid oar @solar bear @sleek cedar @fierce dirge @simple elm @charred swift @atomic basalt @eager carbon @sour flame

Hello hello, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in 36 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1751839200:F> (<t:1751839200:R>) !

So what's the plan ? Good question, we don't know ! Which is why there is a poll my message is answering to that will close in about 8 hours from now to know what the fuck we're doing.

Our options:

• We could go to L-H and get to Crossroads, as the original objective that Iron Hammer was. This will require getting a formation up.
• We could stay in Elim City for now and help civilians, while it is nice I do feel (personally, my opinion is not law) that we have many other BGs with better speed then us that could stay and catch up later, while we only are speed 1
• Go to hill mine with Dwarf Fortress. I mean, nothing says we can't. This will require getting a formation up.
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Nerys Village. Tho, it would be an another airdrop, which will be a mighty headache again for me, and will be dangerous & complicated to airdrop us since Nerys Village does not have an starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Crossroads. It'll be faster but again, might be risky since there might be bots in L-H cutting our reinforcements, and air dropping again with complications since, it doesn't have a starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement

Voilà, please vote on the poll, and you are free to debate and speak your mind out. There will be another ping in roughly 12-24 hours to remind you of Armco's existence, and updates on the situation/plans we've decided on hopefully !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

[hazy radish]

@odd lake @fluid viper @thorn sand @winter dragon

Hello hello, ladies and gentlemen !

Orders are due in 36 hours from when this message has been posted, aka on <t:1751839200:F> (<t:1751839200:R>) !

So what's the plan ? Good question, we don't know ! Which is why there is a poll my message is answering to that will close in about 8 hours from now to know what the fuck we're doing.

Our options:

• We could go to L-H and get to Crossroads, as the original objective that Iron Hammer was. This will require getting a formation up.
• We could stay in Elim City for now and help civilians, while it is nice I do feel (personally, my opinion is not law) that we have many other BGs with better speed then us that could stay and catch up later, while we only are speed 1
• Go to hill mine with Dwarf Fortress. I mean, nothing says we can't. This will require getting a formation up.
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Nerys Village. Tho, it would be an another airdrop, which will be a mighty headache again for me, and will be dangerous & complicated to airdrop us since Nerys Village does not have an starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement
• Coordinate with Atlas to get to Crossroads. It'll be faster but again, might be risky since there might be bots in L-H cutting our reinforcements, and air dropping again with complications since, it doesn't have a starport. + We need Atlas' being in agreement

Voilà, please vote on the poll, and you are free to debate and speak your mind out. There will be another ping in roughly 12-24 hours to remind you of Armco's existence, and updates on the situation/plans we've decided on hopefully !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

WEW, and that's everyone pinged !

[fierce dirge]

👋

[hazy radish]

And the one woken up ! 🤣

Aaaand the sign-up sheet's finally been done per unit instead of per sign-up order by me

very nice

[eager carbon]

[muted eagle]

Huh? 12 hours from now is still saturday 😅

[hazy radish]

n-no it makes sunday midnight

ah wwhatever

i figured it out 'til then 🤣

[muted eagle]

For me it says sunday 23:00

[hazy radish]

thank god we got more time for thinking tho.

[hazy radish]

We're also gonna need a formation if we leave 🤔

so if there's meanies in L-H, cap knows how to place us roughly

[muted eagle]

Right, so 2/3 required for iron hammers to be a furry BG

[hazy radish]

Only 3 needed ?

[muted eagle]

That's what I have been told

[hazy radish]

huh.

I'll add that we're gonna need a formation if we do move in the pinged messages, while i'm still thinking about it and most are still asleep/at work/not here

[simple elm]

shit

[simple elm]

So wait did we even do anything?

[hazy radish]

Yeah !

No panic needed, you're pinged 36 hours before orders are due

And uh of course we did we, we arrived at the starport

and uhm

you remember how Iron Hammer had no midrounds in C3 ?

...yeah...

welcome to Iron Hammer ? 😅

[simple elm]

Shack fucking hates us, apparently

We weren’t even a late addition this time

[fierce dirge]

Is there where Iron Hammers gets its gambling addiction from?

[simple elm]

The fact you’re literally just slightly out to frame on one of these

[hazy radish]

sigh

[iron arrow]

he literally changed my callsign to sven too

[fierce dirge]

News from Storm:

• Current topic: turning into a QRF instead of a Spearhead
• Loses: 2 Infantry and 2 VTOL's, and loss of 20 FS total
• They will be spending extra time in Elm City to recover after it has been taken.

[iron arrow]

like come the fuck on

[simple elm]

Hell I’m not even on the map

[hazy radish]

Between that, the missing video on iron hammer from c3 and the now shack that shot down iron hammer in #meta-comm a while ago

not a stretch to imagine shack does not like iron hammer

[iron arrow]

oh you arent?

shit

[hazy radish]

This is all the units in orange mapped by shack

Altho, now it's only a strategic map as shack also said in tac-com as he considers the map done

Plus, if we do move away from elim city, we don't really need to care about this at all.

If we stay here, we kinda do in a roleplay sense.

[hazy radish]

From what i've seen most of thoses who are missing on sahck's map are the vtol/hvtols from us

& light mechs

Assume you are where you were mapped/ordered or close-ish if we'll need to put orders if we stay here

[simple elm]

Tbh, do you think anything’s changed to make whatever original plan you had moot?

[hazy radish]

We did get the paradrop !

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[hazy radish]

not really.

If anything...

I can't believe we got through. We're heading for the Star Port. We've come from Cross Roads, Bots all over. They are building something.... Is the port Safe?

Civilian comms.

That crossroads can't be good.

[simple elm]

Then we better get to Crossroads

[sage nest]

other then the 2 inf and 2 VTOL losses, it seems that we should be able to get healed up by this turn and deployment-ready by next.

[hazy radish]

OH, news from storm, didnt fcking read it 🤣

[hazy radish]

Weren't you guys originally a QRF ? 🤔

Otherwise staying in the city seems legit.

[sage nest]

yep, got turned into temp spearhead to secure starport early

[hazy radish]

...looking at the map I don't think we got a single a hit nor loss really.

[simple elm]

🎊

[hazy radish]

Spearhead mentionned ??????????????

[sage nest]

speaking of spearhead, i wonder where they're going to deploy

also, all this movement n action and only like 1/3 of the BGs have boots on the ground

now imagine the sheer number of things to keep track of when everyone's deployed

[hazy radish]

yuuuuuuuup.

[left thistle]

Lmao, I’m not on there either. He mentioned me in the mid rounds but mixed up my name with Brass. I’m the dug-in Brass 😂

[left thistle]

I think all of our infantry lost at least one fs but we should be okay for now

[hazy radish]

Oh 🤣

[rapid pond]

Lel

[left thistle]

The iron hammer erasure 😔

[hazy radish]

Also, we don't need to stay in elim city

[muted eagle]

What BGs are staying in Elim?

[hazy radish]

from what I understood, storm, redwall and atlas are all 3 staying in elim city from what i've caught

seeing their polls

[muted eagle]

Cell'Dar mine time!

[hazy radish]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[left thistle]

Oh then we should def get our tanks lumbering on over to crossroads then

[hazy radish]

yuhuh

let me verify their polls so i don't spit any bullshit

redwall poll: closed in favor of staying in elim city

[left thistle]

I would like some heals at some point tho, 4fs is within one shot territory against the bots

[hazy radish]

atlas poll: closed in favor of staying in elim city

storm poll: not closed, but heavily in favor of staying in elim city

[neat fossil]

Nah French, they'll totally advance. trust

[rapid pond]

We will be next turn (most likely)

It’s just for this turn we want to recover

Pelican is still damaged, inf still wounded

kinda feels dumb to walk into another engagement whilst having these wounded

[sage nest]

^

i'd reckon we'll prob have another poll next turn to determine if we want to focus on QRFing or continue to be on the more proactive side... or somewhere inbetween. who knows what the bots have over on the east?

[rapid pond]

This will sound cynical, but it’s true
We’re lucky the losses actually balance out as now we can maintain a similar formation (even if we gotta throw 2 new VTOLs to tank

[south ether]

took a while to read

[rigid oar]

Just got a round to reading meta comm and FORT ON A HILL STRAT WORKED!!!! LETS GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Lost two troopers though. RIP

[left thistle]

Kinda turned into a cage match with how shack interpreted our orders

BUT WHATEVER WORKS WORKS 😂

[rigid oar]

Which is fair. Either way it got done and no permanent casualties

Plus we protected the engineer

I say it all worked out

[left thistle]

Oh yeah definitely

[muted eagle]

Where's the Cell'Dar mine option? :p

[left thistle]

Both of us will need a touch up tho. We’re in one shot territory on an unlucky roll now

[rigid oar]

Yeah I definitely want to see the wounded tended to all things considered

[left thistle]

I wonder if we can do that in transit?

Since healing doesn’t require movement?

[rigid oar]

But I didn’t expect us to get out of it unscathed. But like honestly with the way things where going I doubt we were going to be able to do anything if we didn’t drop on the hill

[left thistle]

Yeah we’d be too far behind redwall

[south ether]

Alright do i need to pick up someone so we can form up?

[muted eagle]

I mean, I wouldn't mind being carried around

Might be good as it allows quick response incase anyone needs a medic

[south ether]

Alright fine with me looks like we will be going to crossroads

[fluid viper]

We lost 4 FS on the hill among the infantry there

[glad hedge]

Oh btw I had a crack at creating UNO in the spreadsheet, but I quickly got to the conclusion that it is difficult to do without scripts 😅

[fluid viper]

I also am down to 2 supply. Not the end of the world but we can not resupply while moving at 1 full speed I think.

[hazy radish]

:(

[odd lake]

I got 10 supply, where are you?

[hazy radish]

honnestly didn't think of it lol

[muted eagle]

Same here

[fluid viper]

We have IFVs. Maybe we can say you get healed by units staying (Either Phalanx or Redwall were sending people) you then use your movement to load up and get their higher speed to keep you with the group?

[fluid viper]

Hill

[odd lake]

Hex number?

[left thistle]

3218

[hazy radish]

That's interesting, can we get heals before moving out ? 🤔

[fluid viper]

Ask?

[hazy radish]

yup, will do

[fluid viper]

If people staying in the star port are willing to do the heals we may have more luck with healing.

Redwall had medics going to us from an early plan.

If we go

Redwall heals hurt infantry

Infantry loads into IFVs and VTOls

Transports catch up and join formation

We probably have the speed to heal first.

[odd lake]

how much supply you want delivered?

[fluid viper]

I only need 2

[odd lake]

aye aye

[south ether]

best to use logi small supply first that frees up space slowly for fs

[odd lake]

2 supply going to Husky, order delivered and sent

[left thistle]

Oh yeah if we end up emptying the logitruck this turn couldn’t we put two infantry into it for transport?

[south ether]

12fs yes

[left thistle]

Hmmmm okay, now I’m going to be contradicting myself, but as nice as that would be to have, idt we should burn through 10 small supply just for that

Unless of course there’s a rly good reason to dump all of it this turn (like resupplying storm’s medics and what not)

[south ether]

no but 5 small suply would mean 6 fs

[left thistle]

Oh I didn’t know it worked like that

Nice!

[fluid viper]

Yeah it is 2 slots able to do 5 supply or 6 FS

[south ether]

and we would be speed 1 anyway but once the logi is empty we can shuttle around troops more easily or to a logi truck suply run once the airport is up

[fluid viper]

Or 2 slots to carry another vehicle

[left thistle]

Wait are we gonna hitch the arty to that? Or transport them in the HVTOL?

[south ether]

imho hitch the arty

[left thistle]

Probably better for them to be in the Hvtol right?

Lmao same time send

[south ether]

arty is only unit that can be hitched hvtol can reposition other vehciles if needed or load large ls

[left thistle]

Every other vehicle we have is at least speed 2 so there isn’t much of a need for the hvtol to carry them tho

[south ether]

but for the movement to crossroads doesn't matter, only matters once we start to get damaged vehicles imho

[left thistle]

Tru tru, and ig with the arty’s range the bigger worry for its positioning would be keeping it away from enemies

[south ether]

yea and a vtol can drop by with two small supply to keep it fed

[fluid viper]

Hey as a note I don't think we are staying in Elim this turn. It sounds like overall plan is immediately moving out.

[odd lake]

I'm only changing my order when we know for sure what we doing

[hazy radish]

we good for healing

[fluid viper]

French do you want help making a formation? Then orders can largely be "advance move in formation"?

[left thistle]

Formation is only rly going to be relevant next round once we reach crossroads right?

[fluid viper]

Yeah but for all we know there may be a tac-map of wilderness at L-H

I want to be prepared for an ambush

[hazy radish]

Yeah, you can get started on one, i'm in a hoi4 game rn

i'll get a formation up when the vote ends & i'm free before going to the gym

[fluid viper]

Lol ok

[muted eagle]

Got it, will give Enni some more healing before going back aboard the VTOL then

[jolly cloud]

For the formation, don’t forget that aerospace assets can’t spot ground assets, so probably put us towards the back 😅

[muted eagle]

And don't forget them I'm in VTOL ADE

[fluid viper]

I was going to take advantage of your speed to drop medics and infantry at key spots in a fight anyways in case of ambush.

If I am making a formation.

Tanks in front and flanks, air assets in the back, Logi pulling artillery with IFVs and stuff to hold the middle along with walkers

[left thistle]

I would put walkers up front, they can go evasive and scout ahead immediately upon entering a new nav point

[muted eagle]

Yeah, Tanks protecting the flanks then mechs in the front to scout ahead

[hazy radish]

Yup, that was my idea

logi back
ifv middle
tanks front
light mech one flank together

something like that

light mechs together stronk

[eager lichen]

Was retconned, ENNI at 5FS right now.

[muted eagle]

Ah

I see

[eager lichen]

STORM gets the thunder first for being first in.

[fluid viper]

A different medic from someone staying in Elim was also going to help them. You can load up and come with without using more supply

[eager lichen]

?

[muted eagle]

I guess I'll heal @left thistle if nobody else is already doing that then

[hazy radish]

for the ordering

on iron hammer doc

[eager lichen]

Shack what-

🔗

[hazy radish]

Who's wounded ?

[fluid viper]

2 of our units on the hill took hits

[eager lichen]

Yes.

... how we got turned into the pathfinding spearhead, I have no idea.

[hazy radish]

lol

[eager lichen]

Crossroads last I heard.

[fluid viper]

Kilo, Bulwark, and Brass all took at least 1 wound

[eager lichen]

I mean, the thing is that several units do need to heal, so... we are extremely unlikely to advance, everyone wants a momentary respite after 55% losses.

[eager lichen]

Up front means you can spot AA assets, by how many new holes you have in your bird.

[left thistle]

All three of our inf that deployed. Kilo only lost one tho

[left thistle]

Oh nvm just read this.
-# the Crown erasure from shack … 😔

[fluid viper]

Crown may have. He has 2 units labeled as Brass

[left thistle]

Yeah the dug in brass is me. Brass is Atlas and advanced down the hill in the opposite direction lol

[solar bear]

Morning... What you guys decided??

[muted eagle]

Looks like we're headed for the crossroads

[solar bear]

This round or are we finishing things on Elim??

[fluid viper]

The vote is to move out this round currently by a pretty big margin

[left thistle]

Looks like storm, redwall and atlas are sticking around

[fluid viper]

Shack just said because we fully deployed we can move to LH this round so We just have to get the formation made and sent to him and have everyone make simple orders of largely Advance Move in Formation

[left thistle]

So it’s probs best for our slow speed 1 asses to start trundling along to the next POI

[fluid viper]

The medics can probably declare healings for our injured comrades

[muted eagle]

Yeah, we can

[fluid viper]

and logi can drop supply enroute because they are fast

[muted eagle]

Since it uses no movement

[fluid viper]

it doesn't take speed to receive supplies for our engineers

[muted eagle]

Yep

[fluid viper]

only some from Logi

[left thistle]

can we get healed and then embark into different vehicles?

[muted eagle]

Most likely

[fluid viper]

Yeah I think so

[left thistle]

Wonderful

[fluid viper]

Because the vehicle would have 1+ speed remaining

[left thistle]

Love to hear it

[fluid viper]

If we get ambushed on entering L-H we would need to recognize you only have 0.5 speed remaining though.

But that should not be a problem.

[left thistle]

@solar bear would you be willing to carry me?

Yeah also it’s probs best for inf to be somewhat safe, since presumably we would be incredibly caught out during an ambush

[solar bear]

Sure... Since I not going to the civvies a cam pick you up...

[fluid viper]

I am just trying to figure out what software I am using to make this formation. I could just do it in paint then post it I guess

[left thistle]

Thanks! And yeah shack is hand waving the tac map for elim at this point so as long as someone in the 3 bgs remaining writes into their orders that they are Search and destroy for the remaining bots (which I would be shocked if at least one didn’t) those civvies will be safe.

[solar bear]

I do my order and give you a head up later today then...

[left thistle]

Appreciate it!

[hazy radish]

All he said

[hazy radish]

Paint.net ! very good software

we use it with vivian, it's a good entryground for beginners :)

[charred swift]

I'm not even on the map so idk if I suffered any damage or anything hahahaha

[hazy radish]

if you're not on the map, assume you're there and haven't taken any damages

if you did take any damage, he'd have you mapped out

[charred swift]

however I'm fine with the formation mentioned earlier, so just tell me what I need to write as far as the order, and well, i'll follow the orders lol

[muted eagle]

Yeah, though now that I've figured out how to use GIMP again, I might use GIMP instead, since it's something I'm used to

[median epoch]

I've been using Inkscape, which is like photoshop, but free, and less dense.

[hazy radish]

Alright, I'm done with me hoi4

I'll get myself some food and in an hour or so i'll begin the formation paint thingy.

since we seem to agree in majority of going to L-H

[fluid viper]

Alright just downloaded it. Working on mapping out our guys now.

[hazy radish]

Future tac-com material

ngl it's great to see everyone in here take initiative :D

yay for iron hammer ! 🎉

[muted eagle]

Welcome to the TAC-COM team :p

[hazy radish]

Welcome ! :D

[hazy radish]

@fluid viper How's the map coming along ?

I'd like to work on the formation but if you already are then I won't make a map and double it 🤣

[fluid viper]

I got vehicles laid out

I need to figure out who is carrying what infantry

And put names down

As a note I think we may be able to speed 2 with the new IFV and the MIAs

If we drop like all supplies

[fluid viper]

.

I need to put the VTOLs out too

Sorry it took me a bit to figure out how to use this software half decent

[hazy radish]

o!

[hazy radish]

nah, i'm considering c.wombat still in for all intents and purposes

[hazy radish]

did you make it into a layer so the formation can be simply drag & dropped for cap ?

Like, no background

[fluid viper]

Ooh I should do that

[hazy radish]

Yep ^^

[fluid viper]

I can redo it

[hazy radish]

Ay I could do it too if you want

ngl i'm not too in agreement with that formation too 😅

[fluid viper]

Oh what changes would you like?

[hazy radish]

hold on

i'll roughly griff some stuff

[fluid viper]

Tanks on outside, light mechs scouting in front

[hazy radish]

this is roughly what I had in mind

and everything being pretty tight, not a loose formation

it's easier that way then to describe it :P

[fluid viper]

I don't like Logi being far back because of chances of flankings. Having an IFV in the back means we are less likely to be surprised by something coming from behind cover to blast them

[hazy radish]

(yay paint circles)

[hazy radish]

I mean this is just for deployment on the first spaces of the conflict

It'd be unprobable for us to arrive and to be instantly beset by all sides

[fluid viper]

I guess yea

[hazy radish]

this is mostly just for turn 1 arriving order, which feels fine imo

maybe infantry ahead to tank for the tanks ? 🤔

[fluid viper]

I would like the orders to work for "we have a tactical map of Crossroads and need a safe way to drive into town" as well. When we don't know where everything is.

[hazy radish]

Hm, true.

Maybe then...

[muted eagle]

I was kinda thinking something like that

Have the mechs ahead of us for scouting

[hazy radish]

Why the IFVs in front ?

[fluid viper]

I was putting infantry in IFVs as much as possible to drop them in key spots in the fight. That way they can drive up to a spot, disembark (.5 speed) and then dig in (.5 speed) and be ready to fight as a combo at any moment.

[hazy radish]

I feel like the medics & engis will be in the IFVs, as they're our most precious infantry and IFV our most tankiest box to put 'em in

[hazy radish]

a

[muted eagle]

Most of our engineers and medics are in VTOLs I think

[fluid viper]

yeah

[hazy radish]

Well, we at least all agree on logi & vtols being in the back right gents ?

[hazy radish]

Oh.

Yeah but that was just for deployment

if offered the chance would medics & engis go for ifvs or vtols ?

[muted eagle]

I think two of us have already chosen VTOL

[fluid viper]

If we don't have C. Wombat I don't really think it is wise for us to plan everything around someone that is unresponsive.

[hazy radish]

like if we get infantry in ifvs, put 'em in middle behind mbt or in front even
If we get medics/engis in the ifvs, put 'em in the back

[hazy radish]

Give him a chance.

[fluid viper]

Without them and using the HVTOL to carry someone we can move speed 2

[hazy radish]

I'm not writing someone off for not being there ONCE, especially when he did mention he was overburdened by work.

[fluid viper]

We could be in Crossroads this round

[hazy radish]

Imagine if you were away for understandable reasons for a few days and you come back and i've striked you off because you were gone?
that's uncool.

[hazy radish]

don't we need the logi to carry people aswell in that case ? 🤔

[fluid viper]

Yeah.

[old lark]

Better to have two units that can take a hit in the back, behind the logis, in case you do get flanked

[hazy radish]

logi's full of supply

[fluid viper]

The artillery would be short on ammo

[hazy radish]

Oh, okay then.

SO, we all agree on vtol/hvtol/logi/arty in the back

[fluid viper]

Yeah generally

[hazy radish]

I think light mechs should be together on one of the flanks, I'm not sure if we can give them an evasive order while in a formation to move, and it'd suck for them to take the brunt of the attack

Imagine coming in and the 2 light mechs are the spearhead despite us having 4 MBTs and 3 IFVs

[fluid viper]

I like them in front because they have the speed to scout and survive. Tanks can support from farther back due to range 2

[muted eagle]

I think the speed and evasive of the mechs should be utilised to scout ahead

[hazy radish]

Light mechs are good, but not invincible

[hazy radish]

But can we really ?

Like in a formation can we say "oh yeah thoses are scouting ahead" ?

i'm just more scared that we come in, plop the formation, and since the light mechs are so far ahead they get shot down, burned, dies, and end of our light mech's stories

Gonna ask in tac-com for the evasive & scouting possibility for the formation while i'm thinking of it

[fluid viper]

I think they can remain evasive in front if we are speed 1

As the yhave enough speed for that

[hazy radish]

still scared for them :s

like again, they are not invincible in evasive and I would hate to see them die turn 1 because we arrive in crossroads and they're all on us and they're the spearhead not our mbts our ifvs or anything else

[muted eagle]

They may not be invincible, but it's unlikely they'll die

And it may infact save us to have them move infront for the purpose of scouting so we know roughly what we're up against

[hazy radish]

...ooookayyyyy...

[fluid viper]

Information is king in this game.

[hazy radish]

I'm still scawed for em but I get the jist.

[fluid viper]

I mean we can ask the mech pilots if they are comfortable being in front too

[hazy radish]

so light mechs front
vtolhvtol yadiyadeyada back

what about mbts then ?

[muted eagle]

I mean, I'd argue information and logistics are always the two most important things in war

[fluid viper]

that kinda answers the question

[hazy radish]

@rough granite @charred swift

:D

so far

I will fight for everything in this formation 🤣

[fluid viper]

I like them on the sides because they can take hits and with 2 range they can support the other side easier with a little movement.

[old lark]

Shack is also reasonable: he's directly stated that he'll move map borders around to prevent spawncamping by either side

[muted eagle]

Yeah, I agree with them being on the sides to hopefully protect the flanks

[hazy radish]

Honnestly I prefer them in the front, either them or infantries

[hazy radish]

He has ?

Well then that's good news

[fluid viper]

IFVs between because they can lose 2 units if lost and they need to use their speed to get infantry in posistion

So if they have to drive off to either flank it is hard

[hazy radish]

how about mbts both in front and on the side

[old lark]

Yeah: a while back someone was bugging him about it

[muted eagle]

Not sure

[hazy radish]

keeps some armor in the front
some armor on the sides

[muted eagle]

If we had some more mbts I'd agree, though we only have 4

[hazy radish]

because it's fine to defend the flanks but if we can't defend the front what uses are the flanks ? x)

[hazy radish]

that works fine

it's not like we're a baker's dozens of units

[fluid viper]

Yeah only 4 MBTs makes it hard to spread them out too much

[hazy radish]

VTOLs can swing in to drop their infantries/medics/engis

We can always make the formation tight, that's what I wished for

keep us together

then spread out on the map if need be, but keep together while we still can and not already be spread out everywhere and have a pain of a time to deal with "okay we need to get back together" once deployed 😅

[fluid viper]

Alright I am going to run to get lunch. Be back in like an hour

[hazy radish]

AHA, IVE MADE ONE GIVE UP, ONLY YOU VIVIAN !

xD

joking of course

good lunch adam !

Rolled a spec ops vtol and didnt screen it, fuck

AND A FIELD ENGI

AAAA

I CLICK TOO FAST

I have a gambling problem.

[muted eagle]

Hell y eah

[hazy radish]

@muted eagle back on track no ?

[muted eagle]

Damn, another one

[hazy radish]

vivian ?

i've lost vivian to gambling.

[muted eagle]

:p

[hazy radish]

sad.

[hazy radish]

THAT MEANS I GET TO MAKE THE FORMATION LIKE I WANT ! 🤣

[muted eagle]

Oh god, that's THREE combat medics

[hazy radish]

(no it doesnt)

[hazy radish]

and very nice.

TO CROSSROADS !

[muted eagle]

I personally still want to go to Cell'Dar mine

[hazy radish]

so, infantry in the ifvs then ?

[muted eagle]

And a fourth combat medic

[muted eagle]

Yeah

Though may want to put an engineer in one since we have 3 VTOLs and 4 support infantry

[hazy radish]

yup

how about this ?

[muted eagle]

Yeah

Though maybe... Hmm

What if we put the logi, vtol and arty infront of the infantry?

[hazy radish]

...why tho

vtol I get, but logi with the arty ?

[muted eagle]

Idk, just considering the idea of it

I just like throwing random ideas at a wall and seeing what sticks

[hazy radish]

lol

I'm thinking infantry first

but as most of theses will be in ifvs, well

not much use having them in front

(hehe 6th try)

You can be in evasive in formations though

Nice for the light mechs.

[solar bear]

We have 2 autocannons, the IFVs can stay on the middle of the formation for fire support...