#Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms
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Perfect
Whats the hex number for the Starport itself? @hazy radish
Alright, looking at orders already out there I'm typing up my idea, hopefully it works? i'll post it like adam did lol
3317
Hard as shit to read
Running a MBT, planning to head NW of the starport if we land. That seem reasonable, or anyone want me to do something else? Too many messages to read everything at work
Also, I need a map
You can just say "The Starport", there's only one on the map 🙂
Understood. Ask as many questions as you need.
best maps are in campaign-briefing room
Seems reasonable to me!
hi can i ask were am i needed
North side might need the help if you want to push from star port
If we've got nobody scouting to the southwest yet, I might recommend that
I'm really anxious about those 5 question marks 😅
I dont think you have many drop options except from coming down through picket line. Also vivian knows more so i would follow their advice.
@atomic pulsar @thorn sand how are you deploying?
The plus of the madlads dropping on that hill is that they may intercept whatever those are
If the Picket Line lands at the starport (assuming the bot frigate in orbit dies) then I’m deploying from that.
will you use VTOL to move or you want me to hitch you?
it's on the NE landing platform of the Spaceport
which is between 3 hexes >.<
you can probably just say "Deploying from Spaceport"
First turn I’m setting up and firing, so no need to hitch yet, but if you’re okay with it I could go to you first for transport needs in the future?
oh, also, we'll probably launch our 3rd HAT filled with small supply, so go ham, and we'll reload you before we leave
im more than happy to help, just tag me whenever you need :D
Alrighty, thank you!
one last thing @hazy radish : do you need the written order or adding it to the table on the coordination sheet is good enough?
the written order in the discord is the only required part
Written order in order chat I require please
Aye aye cap'n, writting it down rn
so queston if i say the movement order for me is
start in piketline then move to 3316 ?
That should be fine, but double check with French
Precisely that, I would personally specify which hex you want to be facing. But it’s probs not necessary
im still new to this
Yeah no worries!
Wonderful, read the ruels and realized I have to move so I'm adding that
Feel free to ask anything!
Yea i can do that for ya
This a little more cleaned up?
I don’t know, I have absolutely no clue what’s going on.
sorry gents just baack form work so im a VTOL who am i dropping and where
Yep, you can move too if you want btw
No worries. Tubsay found a ride but I'll take one if you want.
SURE WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO
@muted eagle what are the new coords?
where can i drop ya
how are yall feeling?
lucky
Like this is going to go either really well or really not
Unit Callsign: rose
Unit Type: light meck
Order Type: advances
Movement/Action Tracker: speed 4
Disembark from Atlas star port .
move from starport to 3316 facing east (1)
fire at enemy closest enemy
Specific to your unit: -light laz
(rp) "recycling time " he say threw the mecks loud speaker.
is this good
he is only a littel drunk
@left thistle where would you like me to drop you
Does anyone know which facing Husky’s fortifications have?
I should be good deployment wise, but thank you! I would check in with @sleek cedar whenever they’re back I think they’d need a lift
@eager lichen Do your birds need any help with repair? Or would you rather get some sandbags? I have the ability to land where they are and fix them (sorry if wrong person to ping with question)
anyone need a lift then im free
Our VTOLs should be fine for now, we need defense first.
How hot are you willing to drop? (How much damage would you be willing to take?)
Im Combat Engi, so I can go hot and fight back. Down to roll dice
It's 3316
do you want a lift to the combat zone
and leave early or wait til landed and drop then
Yes just working on where we need to go
perfect
What do you mean by that?
wait till picket line lands and disembark then or disembark in high orbit and land
Disembark in high orbit and then land
Pretty much to make sure that we get down to storm
How would you feel about dropping 3316, on the NE side of ENNI, build a sandbag facing NW, and fire at enemies around?
Currently, there is 9 FS to the West, 1 FS to your north, and 10 FS distant East.
I'm already going to be dropping on the north east side of Enni
Oh, wait
They're a engineer
I'm stupid
I should probably sleep
so is should face west right
Yeah
alright i gonna repost my order
Right, we're still missing 9 orders 😅
Unit Callsign: Valkor
Unit Type: Vtol
Order Type: Advance
Movement/Action Tracker:
leave Picket line at high orbit (.5)
move down to 3316 (2.5)
Land and unload (1)
Starting Coords: in picket line
Ending Coords: 3316
Specific to your unit: HFLS small supply
Facing:NE
Roleplay:
how dose that look ?
Do you plan to drop near husky?
NE and SE
Uhm... I'm already being carried by ADE 😅
oops sorry
Im down, however isn't sandbagging a primary action so I won't fire on the same turn? the rules don't specify so if you know more ill take the tip
I got it answered sorry for the extra ping
reads rules
RAW, doesn't specify that it is a primary action to lay sandbags, only one to dig trenches?
Ah. what's the verdict?
dose that look better
As it is not specified, it is treated as a build action and as such costs 0.5 speed and not the primary
Unit Callsign: Valkor
Unit Type: Vtol
Order Type: Advance
Movement/Action Tracker:
leave Picket line at high orbit (.5)
move down to 3316 (2.5)
Land and unload (1)
Starting Coords: in picket line
Ending Coords: 3316
Specific to your unit: HFLS small supply
Facing:NE
Roleplay: (edited)
[21:12]
Yep, that looks good
@sleek cedar are you happy ith that drop off
Sounds good
Good to do so, then?
I'll wait until you post into the Mission Orders thread and post after you
ALL UNITS, Keep the starport NE and SW Landing Pads CLEAR. ORBITALS LANDING
Other pads are still available for units to move on.
posted
HAMMER TCOs,
Would you be willing to coordinate with STORM and ATLAS TCOs during the TCO 24hr Mapping Round to ensure everyone is covered and we didn't accidentally drop everyone on the same spot?
Orders are due in an hour and 15 minutes, try get your orders in soon if you still haven't done so yet!
Soooo emmmm What is the Plan now ?
We’re deploying out of the space port’s NE pad this turn
Pick a direction and go lol, very target rich environment
Reinforce storm
Does anybody need a trasnport ?
Or I think our HVTOL is still open if you wanna drop somewhere else
Not atm, inf is hot dropping SW
But later rounds definitely
Maybe you could start to transport our medical corps all over the place
Or does it not matter ?
AHH okay
well there is only an hour left. i dont thin i can coordinat so fast
😅
Well, I imagine ifvs can shoot?
So uh... Pick a direction and start blasting I suppose!
Yes, 3218. as well.
Awesome, I'm building for South facing.
It's important that you atleast disembark from the picket line so it can move back up
I was originally going to carry Frenchboi
Sounds like a Plan
Can you also toss something in to protect the west?
Where are the other VTOLs landing?
I don't think french wants to be carried down anymore unfortunately
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, how much movement does one construction cost?
And I think most VTOLs are landing around the spaceport
.5
Since they're carrying medics and engineers
101 new messages,IM BACK
Oh if you are Vtol you can only do one
Then no 😅
Though I could ask my TAC-COM if I can resubmit my order and move my defences to the west
reading through and i'll be helping
Welcome back Frenchie
I am falling from the sky in a HAT
We are now in the “think fast chucklenuts!” phase of things :)
"put something in or we have nothing"
Confirm @simple elm, unless you got a good argument going, I wish to be unloaded on the starport regularly, I find the vtol & hvtol going out of atlas while the ennemy orbital is still aboard too risky of an andeavor 😅
Yeah, but we're both loading in first, which takes 0.5 movement
now to go read in everything
Then don't you have no movement to build with?
Because having a tank that's going to land whether or not they manage to deal with the frigate would be really nice
It doesn't take movement to paradrop
So it's just movement to build once and to load in
Hey, give the pins a read, that should help in knowing, and ask people here for help don't hesitate ! 
And you lads don't just ignore him >:(
or I will shoot you, somehow
I haven't spoken in this channel until now, I wasn't just ignoring him :p
They already left 😅
Sadness
And I was busy trying to get a drunk person to go to bed, so unfortunately I didn't notice 😅
by the time i looked back at the disc 12mins after their message they were greyed
So,thoughts on setting up to provide overwatch for the forces being dropped off by the VTOLs?
Yes, I haven't asked myself how to get the maps going, but i'm gonna need @muted eagle and some messages in tac-com comms with atlas & storm TCOs aswell 🤣
Did he just leave too ????
What the fuck
Come on guys :(
Isn't flufle fighters going after opfor fighters?
This is like the 2nd time someone leaves because he asks for info and he gets ignored
Please guys.
Morning
How goes the chaos?
I swear to god I will murder someone if this keeps happening.
Good, turns out you were right, you need to specify who you're healing
so, another round of deleting and reposting order eh ? 🤣
#BlameVivian
:p
They haven't removed themselves from the sheet, but yeah they messaged and dipped soon after it seems.
I mean, it can be a bit difficult when you're only given like 5-10 minutes to respond 😅
and i'm caught up !
Ok good to know
Will do in a moment
True, I get it but, argh it's just frustrating to see people ask, panic and just insta-leave man 😅
not even for like manpower wise or anything, just because people won't get to partake in the fun and prefer to leave then trying to ask again :(
They we’re greyed out 3 mins after they asked 😭
I will posthumously put uncomfortablynumb & beefcakedaddyo where edited & fatty_mcfat are, this is really sad.
I know, can't say I blame them though, I was gonna join this a campaign or two ago but it just seemed so overwhelming so I ended up not joining 😅
If anyone can reach out to beefcakedaddyo to ask if they're okay with no pressure to join back aswell, that'd be great ! ❤️
This one also doesn’t help tbh
We go from basically nothing happening to just
Chaos.
Yeah
yeah...
I should have pinged at midnight when we knew orders would come in, this my bad lads.
I thought more people would check in but seeing how laid back I am and everyone was, this was to be expected after the fucking 2-3 weeks hiatus 😰
I mean we knew this was coming for weeks.
The way the game is formated is we have 24 hours from midrounds releasing to needing a cohesive plan put in twice a week until we die or win.
I think with such a big campaign, for people to not be so overwhelmed, you've gotta give them a week for one round rather than half a week 😅
There is going to be some player burnout
I'm sorry I'm technically in work forgive me!!! 
Well, we'll be alright lads.
It also doesn’t help that it’s a half week set period
I didn't even see his comment
If possible make sure to answer to thoses who come seeking help, no blame put, whatever
Not once your unit is actionable
Yeah
MOVING ON WE GOT SHIT TO PLAN YEAH ? 
Yes, we do
Because yeah we didn’t get half a week we got a day
We have a plan we just need orders in.
you got anyone else for your hvtol btw ?
And then (atleast for most) people will be spending time of that doing life things, like sleeping and work 😅
Some IFV wanted aboard
aye, that's good then
So where the fuck are those support personnel landing? Just literally around the base of the spaceport?
It really didn't help that we went "only if people volunteer" for making decisions.
Next round should be a lot cleaner with people with more immediate problems in front of their faces.
Yep
Like 90% of Stormblessed had their orders figured out within 2 hours of the midrounds finishing.
that is the philosophy tho, but I get the lack of a concrete plan, one day is really rough to plan things out compared to 3 days
It's tough.
It's tougher on the deployment too
It's even tougher with air deployment and orbital deployment
Turn 5 and after will feel like a breeze after this mess' done.
Yeah, figuring out deployment logistics is rough
Yeah. My point is that actual militaries don't do "volunteer" for things for a reason. You are in you take orders. It is hard to function when membership for each endeavor is iffy.
No
I know this is a game not military
That was me
Well, maybe darkhen did some of it, idk
@dim plaza @lost elk @simple elm @sour flame
Hello again lovely ladies and gentlemen
Iron Hammer's first round of orders is due in about 50 minutes from when this message has been posted !
Make sure to get your first orders in before the deadline, there's a pinned message with (hopefully) up to date plans, if you need catching up you can always ask here !
As if you're lazy to read the pins, there are some HATs/VTOLs/HVTOLs from us, atlas & storm deploying early going from elim high orbit into elim city proper, paradropping and landing troops from us.
If you think this is too risky, or you just cannot get paradropped/landed as you're a heavy vehicle, you can always put an order like I did to deploy on the starport. If the ennemy orbital in high orbit gets killed, we'll be able to deploy this round instead of the next one, gaining some precious time for defending it with storm ! 
Did you verify the orders aswell ?
Don't forget to use the reaction thingies, that helps
i should do that aswell lol
imma go read 'em
Just redid mine
No, it's getting late and I should sleep 😅
aight, i'll do so then
Mind checking mine quickly so I can change it if necessary before I go sleep?
I noticed an issue with it almost immediately... I forgot to change the unit I was healing 😅
Btw, you guys can react with
and 🔨 and anything else in the order chat
just leave ✅
and
alone :P
Iron hammer finally doing orders!? :0
Hey French can you double check my orders?
Action: Dig In: Unit gains +2 Defense. This uses all of the unit's total movement and is the core feature of infantry. This stacks with other defense sources..
Uhm... Can you dig in after you disembarked ?
Since this uses all your movement, you shouldn't be able to dig in right after being disembarked right ?
OUI :D
alr
I don't believe you can
If you airdrop in I think you can immediately dig in
Depends like jumping from hat doesn’t use movement so you can dig in but a vtol does
not vtol though
Can you build 2 sandbags in one turn ?
oh yeah it's an airdrop, good one thanks
perfect then
thanks for getting me up to speed lads 👀
unless Shack rules I need to spend .5 loading on the orbitals
god I keep staring at the map for Elm City, what the fuck is half of this?
Are the question marks potential contacts?
blue is building, green is elevation, black is solid walls.
Question marks are confirmed contacts of unknown origin or hostility.
Big Question mark is "who knows what is happening here? Not me."
It something of interest
I swear when all our orders are done we're all taking a well deserved drink with a hammer in it 🤣
Work in Progress
okay i slapt somthing together 😛
Right, just 4 more orders needed
@dim plaza weren't you goingg to ride with me?
Like I was just about to ask to drop you at the picket line
Ending coords: bottom right of hex 3317 (or wherever Picket Line lands if it lands)
@thorn sand it will most probably be wherever picket line lands if it lands
HOW ARE YOU ON A WIP TAC MAP I HAVENT EVEN BEGUN MINE 🤣
it's the best way to tell other groups what's going on
and we've got a reputation to keep ;)
Fire with priority: (1)
1: closest enemy armor
2: if no enemy armor, target land unit with most FS
@fierce dirge order is valid, but you do not choose who you shoot at sadly, unless you got an equipment that specifies so :P
Okay do we have literally any armor assets I can get forward deployed, or do I just do nothing this round?
Hey @hazy radish, why not help the HVTOL be useful? :p
-Distribute supplies to nearby INF units
@odd lake ...how much ? 😅
That is an excellent argument.
Bet.
thank fuck
It's risky and I don't like it
I'll be honnest
But I'd fucking hate for you to be out of a job AGAIN
while there are literally ONLY 6 HVTOLS
and we have like 10 MECHANIZED UNITS OR SOMETHING
I am not about to let you fucking down hunter
Picket Line is 3416, right?
...that does fuck all my roleplay but xD
Picket line while in high orbit has no hex grid coordinate so far
@hazy radish
Just making sure my order is valid as i am about to start work and won't have my phone on me any more
I am sorry for your lose. Thank you for your sacrifice.
Valid for me, someone check his order too for the love of god
let tubsay not repost for the 5th time
Mostly because we agreed "Anyone moves, they die", and the only thing we needed to decide on was how many VTOLs to send to CAS in certain areas, and where support personnel need to go.
Also helped by havwing 2 TCOs and 2 2TCOs.
I'll make it work.
7th 😋
?
Oh sorry. My anwser was for someone else sorry 😛 going down in a VTOL is pretty risky
Shouted at storm where they want an mbt at lol
Right, I'm heading off, hope nothing is wrong with my orders 😅
I don't think any of us can
Understandable
seems good to me
Fair. Thats part of the reason i tried to make a part of the mess more organaized
Plus if we pull it off it will be really cool.
Why couldn't stuff just not change so that the original plan still worked :p
Thank god for that.
You don't wanna become a secondary tac-com aswell ? 🤣
Maybe next time. I dont know how much of my time will change once i start working. Plus being a TAC-COM on first op seems like alot. IDK ill think about it.
Starting Coords: Aboard the Endurance
@iron arrow huh, you're aboard the endurance ? shouldn't you be in the picket line with everyone else ? 🤔
And on time #1385617845831995402 message kkkkk
Honestly i do think it would help TAC-COM's a lot if it wasn't all on them. Like another layer, kind of how Atlas has "Officers" that don't give orders or anything but help coordinate orders from specific groups, ie some one helping get all the inf organized, someone helping get all of the vehicles, ect, ect, ect. Cus i definantly think part of the reason i was even able to get my plan working was it only relied on 4 other people.
But i also get thats harder to do in a less focused battle group like this
Tac-coms are not meant to be leaders
...it just so happend to be the case here.
But everyone else can take that mantel and do plans and shit, I'm glad for that man
@simple elm you still here ?
still here
I ment even for just like, "hey this is where all the inf are going on put it on the map for you" kinda thing
Basically, me MBT land here, so you disembark me nearby @simple elm ?
Any suggestion for where I should move? Should I just go directly to orbit once I've dropped you off?
Not even in the leader sense
STORM is managing by having 4 TCOs, and also ATLAS being nice and having an ambassador.
Helps us coordinate. It's also great that we also all plan out our possible major moves in advance as a group.
Storm did suggest going south, but I do not feel the 1v5.
And this is closer to my original plan too :)
I don't think you got the movement to go to orbit after that right ?
Cus like keeping up to date with what up to 30 people are doing and knowing what other bg are doing is ALOT. Just know i apreaciate everything you do french.
Alsoc, our TCOs are pretty quick about making Unit Plan updates (vusuals) that include all orders.
I believe I have one speed left, since I can land right above the spot you want to land
100%
It's going to be so much worse when the other BGs drop in-
It was way easier in C3 to keep up with the one battlegroup beside us
...the main thing that is making it harder is the combo of "hey, orbitals are a thing" and "hey, we are air-deploying today", WHICH IS NO BUENO FOR KEEPING TRACK OF
I think @solar bear can forward this feeling of having difficulties keeping track of air deployment, he was in stormchaser originally in c3 lol
Also, a painfully shorter time frame
Yeah which is insane and alot to be doing ya know. It is appreciated but i dont want poeple to get to stressed or overworked about it.
Thats also fair.
you forgot the "Hey, we need to use air assets from other BGs/TFs to deploy"
That makes it even worse than STORMCHASER, they were all 1 BG.
French what's your actual callsign?
Billote
So, do we confirm this ? You HVTOL me in, drop me in 3218, me shooty and protecc enni ?
sure, I'll do 3218
I was planning on dropping you directly in front of them xD
fuck which direction should I go with my last bit of speed
leave Picket line at high orbit (.5)
move down to 3316 (2.5)
Land and unload (1)
took movement metrics from other vtol
That is what we do on map mornings... Btw, map shenanigan's tomorrow @hazy radish??
yes but for now i'm frantically checking orders rn
Lets not talk about it...
alr alr
let me delete repost and modify my rp slightly
i'll make it work for hunter air deployment
Wished I could do more rp @simple elm but I already had mine all layed out and 10 mins left lmao
same
fuck
...no 🤣
anyways I'm gonna just go lay down and vomit
Understandable
I just hope I won't die, I got a whole rp idea ahead and a whole campaign too.
If we have the time I'd like to write up your crew interacting with the new gooebr aboard air dragoon
If I die, I won't have died without giving you a job at least
ay that'd be nice too
we just got a mutalett in the tank aswell
:FlareonCute:
How fitting, the new person aboard Air Dragoon is actually the driver of The Cab
So her first job was actually working with Nine Tails xD
Okay now realizing this is super risky aswell
But there will be healing, other infantries will fire and help, vtols aswell, you're here
This seems okay.
I beg for this to be okay.
Okay
IM STRESSING OUT NOW 🤣
I was going to say you have your own movement
you can deploy slightly back and move forward
Damn, big sad
Yeah
Okay hold on
Its funny how on C3 Air Dragon kidnapped Billote on the end and is now deploying Billote for this campaign kkkk
i'm asking enni lol
familiar faces and everyone was panicking for HVTOL pilots
i'm giving us 10-20mins more to get this squared out
Thank god
...especially since i can only start tac-maps after i sleep so
technically you guys got the whole night to post but shhhhhhhhh dont tell anyone
Wooo, I could actually write up RP things 🎊
though tbh I'll probably just keep it to that simple line
I'd probably get writer's block trying to do anything more atm
i'm asking enni to see if she/he/they/whateveryouwanttoday are okay with me just advancing to them instead of dropping in front of them lol
ah no wait if i land behind and advance there's bots that could shoot me back
think this may be for the best
(hopefully)
okay
I'm blaming high command for giving us hours to sort this out
blame me for not pinging y'all earlier
@hazy radish shit what's the problem
Just kill all the bots= problem solved
ay calm down, delete & reposting orders after the deadline is ok
as for what's the problem
Starting Coords: Aboard the Endurance
Fair, I was awake for five hours after the first message went out
...you should be aboard the picket line I think ? 🤣
Sven is not using the pods on the Endurence??
... I wanna see the actual emote, now.
ye ik sorry i didn't mean to have caps lock on
oh no i meant calm down for the panic
not for the caps lock i'm fine with that lol
The player deadline is suggested, the TCO has authority to extend it.
The TACCOM Map deadline on the other hand...
and yeah like darkhen said the Endurance is the one with the drop bays
Yes, I know about authority extending :P
not the picket line
It has been sent :)
Just wanna make sure everyone's on time for 24 hours, if i extend it everyday i'm ending up with like 30mins to make a tacmap at some point, that's no bueno
...but can you get declared on the endurance then ? 🤔
Cuz, atlas declared us all on the picket line, so how can you get there ?
I'm kinda confused on how this all works
ayyyeeee not me flanking them for you to help enni lol
oh bet you're on this too ?
i don't see why i'd need to be declared there but sure i'll go get their blessing
yeah, confirm with them cuz to declare you need to spend 1 large supply and all that
just wanna make sure what you're doing is legal
as per my order i'm using my evasion to get right behind them at 3116
Alright guys we should scrap the entire hill plan just to mess with 3 BG/TFs worth of Taccoms
NO
NO
I BEG
I BEG AND SCREAM
🤣
okay @simple elm idk what's best between landing in front of enni or landing behind and advancing in front of enni
make the call because i fucking can't lmao
FYI:
@iron arrow @hazy radish
Sven's location aboard the TF doesn't matter for the purpose of Deployment.
Sven can use the Drop pods aboard Endurance From anywhere in orbit, even the cargo bays.
This costs 0 movement, and he can immediately Advance [1 speed] or Hold/Dig-In wherever he lands.
Even from the cargo bays of the picket line ?
Just land in front, because my thought was landing in that secured position with the 4 infantry and engineers then just BOOKING IT
Yes, from anywhere in the fleet
He could be in the fucking bathroom, it doesn't matter.
Oh.
Okay neat.
@iron arrow congratulations on orbital dropping from the Endurance's toilets. 
I don't understand your thought
what's the secured position with 4 infantries and engis ?
you mean the hill at 3218 ?
ye
Oh god
yeah the thought was I land at 3218, you zoom over to 3216
ooohhh
land me at 3217 and we've got a deal
👍
great
and then i speed in front of enni and we good ?
3217 will be better since no ennemies on it
yep
(and less troops, too)
good!
let's delete & repost with that change and we'll be set
I'll provide flank fire once in position!
RIP the little dragon emote that one guy put on mine xD
Wait did we lose a arty?
@lost elk ?
Yes.
beefcakedaddyo is the second one who left due to... i'll say panic & the stress of this turn
RIP. Im sorry to hear that
Okay.
I think only C.wombat is missing.
Otherwise fuck me this has been exhausting.
Running around trying to figure out stuff for the past hours, then gym, then figuring out stuff AGAIN.
Yeah it seems to be alot
I sincerely hope not to die first turn due to me giving Hunter a job, seriously I would really be pissed
same
DALKDA WHY DID YOU ACCEPT GOING THERE AS A HVTOL DESPITE THE RISKS THEN
Just ask shack to redirect any damage you take to me
Slowly losing me mind.
On a serious note if you need a break take it.
I will, i'll go to sleep after this lmaoo
BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE TO A PLAN
YOU COULD JUST KEEP IN THE ORBITAL AND THAT WOULD BE FINE
I WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED TO RISK ME LIFE AAAAAAAAAAA
Isnt it 12:00 AM for you right now? Go sleep.
AND DO NOTHING?
FUCK IT WE BALL
...fair
AAAAAAH GET ME OFF MR.HUNTER'S WILD RIDE !
...Don Quixote? xD
stumbled uppon this sometime ago aswell @muted eagle
gn
Wait wait wait that includes me too 😭
have you seen my coordination folder? It's exploded from 3 docs into 10-
Only C.Wombat missing I think, so i'll leave it open, close it when i wake up tmrw and we'll get to tac-map discussing and mapping thingy
good night ladies and gents and not so ladies and not so gents
Naw i will take it on the chin myself
-# that’s still me 😭
too late to add the values?
Nah he’s keeping it open till tm, so feel free to delete your order and repost with updated values
Hey if we both live through this precarious deployment I'm right next to you and can give you tank pats (serious mechanical repair) if you take damage.
no, deleting and reposting to fix is fine
should have made that clear
lovely stuff
i
uhm
what's "nearby"
Done, giving out 2 small supply per unit, should be enough to for the medics to heal them if need be
Yes
aight perfect
clarified it with a small addition of "in the same hex"
i swear guys i was about to turn off the computer, i swear 🤣
delete & repost
no edits
😅
perfect gn
I swear to god, some days I'm so fucking out of it
Mood, Sleep well Frenchboi!
Dream of... soft baguettes and coffee... mmmm coffeee
The thoughts of pretty much everyone this round
God 24 hours to do orders is no bueno 😭
Yeah its a REALLY rought turn around this time for the mid week
We gotta do it again Saturday-Sunday
Nah don’t remind me 😭
At least there won't be as much cross group coordination to do. It is more "we push south" if everything this turn goes to plan.
Yeah thankfully we can kinda just do our own thing starting next round
HAMMER... DOWN.
Hammer, see attached.
@hazy radish When you are done with the TCO Map, please send it in STORM Channel as well. Thanks!
@lost elk you've still got some time to send in your orders, I myself won't really be able to help make a TAC-COM map until like... 4pm this evening, and french probably won't be awake for a few more hours, so you have time
FYI - I'm including Sven(ODT), Cr0wn(INF), Kilo(INF), Bulwark(INF), and Husky(INF) in Atlas' TacCom map, as asked by French.
Alright
Iron Hammer are marked orange. Everything look correct to you?
It's high-res for maximum zooming.
I'll look at it when I get home, my chromebook is shitting itself trying to do it
Fair, here's the low-res version
Okay yeah just, jesus give me some time dude okay 🤣
Rough day trying to get shit together yesterday, just woke up, and you guys are already firing up all the TCO maps, christ on a bike gents
Okay nice !
Hey there hammers, how’s it hanging in here?
Quiet, quiet after the storm
Well enough, we managed to get almost all the orders in
We just need to get a map together
2 of our members left due to stress & panic
and by left, I mean left the server 😅
1 hasn't put order in due to work from the last msgs i can read
otherwise, we're here
How has it been in the rabbits?
Morning french
morning ocdt!
Greatings Iron Hammer, I have a tradition to follow through on.
Oh mighty Frenchboi... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of France, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Plains, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Emperor of Talan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of God, Breaker of the English Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of God, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Frances Legions, Seneschal of the Great Alpine Mountains, Curserer of the Living, Slayer of the Britons, Master of the Foxbats...
Tradition followed 
All hail the mighty French.
Waiting
Fair enough
Alright !
Stretches in a cute pathfinders way
So, would anyone be willing to look while I make the tac-map ?
Sends an electric shock to French’s device
x(
I dunno how ya intend to shad the tac-map but okay
I would but I'm at college right now unfortunately
And should probably be focusing on the lesson
I would
Also I pinged @winter dragon about joining us with their IFV as they are in the campaign but not deployed if they just give you a "we drive off the ship" order this turn.
Uh... How does venator plan on landing at Cell'Dar? 😅
I thought the NPC transports could only land at space ports and other designated areas
Works for me.
If they are willing to join
If i can join i am more than happy
Then that works ! Welcome aboard I guess ! 
#1385617845831995402 message There's all this for "how2order" and all that
There's the sign-up sheet in pins aswell
I encourage you to go sign-up on the sheet, then get your order in 
I'll just need as it says on the template I directed you too, unit type, callsign, and your deployment.
I've barely started on the tac-map so i'm okay as long as your order is there in the following hours :P
Not overloading you am I ? 😅
Is this alright?
Yep!
I love what an absolute mess work of art the Iron Hammer sheet is lol
Perfect ! 
Indeed, it's great
And i've done a bit of tidying 🤣
The best part is the gambling
I full expect a "God damnit" from french any second now
Me casually mapping
My dope ass playlist reminding me of this banger existing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hJRuRbDXxw
Madness: Project Zero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg3t4ApM1Hk
Soundtrack on newgrounds:
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/766575
Djjaner:
https://djjaner.newgrounds.com/
GOD DAMNIT
Holy moly what a throwback
Havent seen those animations in years
Oh I still love 'em.
Madness combat is king
Madness combat 12 went out some time ago too.
or is it 11 ?
I forgot which number it is lol
Yes, madness combat 12: Conrtravention
Did ya miss the new #midround-events the secondary mission has an industrial elevator
They intend to use it (as Shack stated in it, one BG can use it to descend to the surface before it turns off) to gain control of Cell’dar mines
Sorry
Industrial sized grav-lift
Not elevator
Ah, must have missed that part
Basically I think venator chose to go as they wanted to retake Ziyal anyway
Plus sending like a maxed out BG of armour to the most isolated region on the map is probably the best bet to succeed in the objective
-# Since the area should be clear of bots rn
(as Shack stated in it, one BG can use it to descend to the surface before it turns off)
Oh, I thought that was only after a bg took control of it
nice for venator!
Basically it has low power
In terms of actual commander/strategic info from Shack, he assumes it has enough power to let an entire BG offload
Which basically means, it only lets 1 offload
Bc GM shack and our great Captain (of the campaign) are 2 separate people at times lel
I'm starting to get slightly confused, doesn't everyone have to come from the picket line ?
Because I'm seeing orders mention they start from the big metal ball in the middle aka the starport
...do i make them start at the big metal ball or at the picket line disembark ?
Wasn’t the picket landing?
yeah, the picket is landing, north-east of the starport
so i'm assuming we all come out of the picket line, not the starport, right ?
#1385617845831995402 message @solar bear facing is south-east, but map is making you face south-west, which one is it ?
i think aswell, because I see lots of orders originating from the big ball of metal in the middle
If you can find the pickets order it should clear things up. What TF are they in?
atlas
and it's not really clear ngl
it says according to "ship formation" which i dont have lol
Movement: Fly in Formation with the Atlas Fleet, then Land and dock at Elim spaceport
#1385616625293725886 message
shrugs
From what I understand it is landing as the starport so shouldn’t everything that is deploying be undocking from said starport.
welp, there goes 30 mins of my time
throws tac-map in the bin
STARTING OVER
(nearly)
I am sorry boss
Yeah sadly the green is the landing pass
It’s why we cleared 2
The dome is a… dome you see as such unless if ya wanna destroy an orbital you can’t really land there
okay that explains a lot
I just assumed we'd be all coming out of the picket line
not that the picket line funnels all of us into big metal ball and that we then leave by the landing pads
Well… what landing pad is even being used?
That’s… bad
I know picket line is landing north-east of the starport
and i assumed we were all coming out from north east
so we ARE coming out from north east ?
like, what's happening, do we have rules or pointers or anything on this ?
Like, for me it's either:
- Picket Line docks at starport, and it funnels all of us in the big metal ball, which redirects us to the green landing pads for deployment
- Picket Line docks at starport, but it means getting us all out on the landing pad he is deployed at
But how do we know for sure which one is which ? I'm no fucking wizard ! x(
YEAH 🤣
GAWD DAMN EST
I literally can't do my tac-map without this info
- more info from atlas I require for their picket line's position in high orbit for vtol & hvtol deployment
I am at the mercy of his sleep schedule for now.
well if the ennemy orbital dies map goes into tactical and that means picket line can land and deploy us on the same turn
that ixen got confirmation by shack in taccom comms
I feel like these should’ve been asked yesterday but we can’t change the past
2 things I feel you should ask are, where you disembark and if you do disembark on the starport, how do the armour descend
I can't figure every question to ask 😅
I feel like Shack should’ve written about starports in more detail
I swear I'm never getting aboard an orbital again for deployment
Feels like trying to find an invisible bridge
trying to walk an invisible bridge*
It’s the north east pad I believe
The issue is, he doesn’t know where y’all are being placed after disembarking
no i do know the final positions
i don't know the original ones that is
like half of the orders are "i come from big metal ball" other half is "i come from picket line"
French… I mean that
like, which one is right ?! D:
As long as this keeps us on the high ground part of Hill 3218, I believe paradrop squad will be good with this
ah okay 
What are the starting cords?
Well, you see turtle, we used to know them
Now we don't anymore. 🤣
Put in atlas' picket line for the meantime, we'll figure this problem out, eventually.
Field Nav 1 technically speaking
Since ya in an orbital
But in terms of landing… I dunno
After reading through all the messages, I'm suddenly grateful that I deployed by air onto a hill.
I'll be gratefull when turn 4 will be over man 🤣
Never again are we doing air/orbital deployments lmao
I've thrown this problem in tac-com comms
This was flagged in atlas chat
AY, good stuff ! that's what i need for the hvtol & vtols
Okay, I'm gonna go take a break of an hour or something, ping me in #meta-comm if something happens that fixes my stuff
Why in #meta-comm ? Because for some reason pings in the threads don't make sounds. Idk why.
Map takes priority...
Daily reminder that I appreciate you and the hard work TAC COMs put in to make all this work. Also good morning.
We should've just dropped on Cell'Dar instead, then we wouldn't have to worry about any star ports
:p
Hey @winter dragon I think you gotta make a #1385617845831995402 post quick. Even if it is a "starting place- on the orbital. Order Type Advance Move in formation (disembark)"
Dresden Valareo
[ARM]
— 15:00
You are coming out of the dome
That is basically, the "spawn" point
so, that's solved :D
Dresden Valareo
[ARM]
— 15:05
They can't hold turn one. Deploying is basically unloading, which cost movement
Other news too, hm
Don't worry, the ping was just to stop it from being lost.
Consumes movement?
yep
so technically you can't hold after you deployed, since you have moved due to the deployment
Meaning...
automatic: Mrrrp.
///<
@thorn sand @sleek cedar @eager carbon @odd lake
Hello ladies and gents.
So, apparently, you cannot hold after getting deployed (by orbital or by vtol/hvtol), since it consumes part of your movement making the hold order impossible
Meaning your order types should actually be advance, not hold.
If you could please delete & repost that'd be great, but even if not I will still consider the orders valid and just put them under the advance flag since you guys aren't moving from the deployment zone unless you wish to. 
God, that's 8th repost potentially for tubsay.
Feelsbadman.
Oopps- I thought I communicated that clearly, we had to clear 2 Landing Pads rapidly.
And I'll be starting to map again, throwing nearly everything in the trash thanks to this
sigh
"PICKET LINE" Should be docked at the NE one, that's the one cleared for them.
@median epoch
You are lucky
I just got into bed but can do it quickly
How's it going, Iron Hammer to the rescue?
take a shot everytime tubsay has to do a repost
GET ME OUT OF HERE
FREE ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Lets not kill people now 😋
... we've been assuming 2 in STORM, but didn't ask, because we were coordinating other things.
(We're not the ones with orbitals, so...)
I swear all I want to do is go outside for 1hr and forget I'm having to deal with this headache inducing deployment
Done
Night all
Gn Tubsay
Thanks Consul for the repost too
If anyone wants a stream of me makin' the tac-map feel free to ping me, i'll get back on that horse again.
Sure!
I'm not gonna ask all thoses who assumed "we're getting off the picket line NE" and not "metal ball" to repost their orders, I'm just gonna assume you start off NE of the metal ball and boom the arrow will match, or closer to the middle if that cuts your movement in the way it goes
Like I already have my hands full with this, i'm not about to go ask half of our BG to repost their stuff because we misinterpreted the spawn point 🤣
Note: it appears to take 0.5 speed to descend the tower from the landing pad.
game room 3 then !
WHAT
Also french
There’s no elevator as far as we know
Since I dunno about you, but I don’t think they’d hide the elevator from the medics
French, if you're feeling the TAC-COM pressure, feel free to reach out to others to help divide the load. No sense in getting burnt out.
Yeah, Vivian can only get there late afternoon if i understood
Id join but im still at work for another while.
Yeah EC’s dead technically all they can do is bureaucracy
I wanted to start easy with thoses who were already landed
plot twist: it brang up more questions
"Beyond the Grave" - Omega Zulu
I hope you enjoy being in the administratum
In death their is only paperwork.
Even in death, I still serve the Omnissiah
Calm down Iron Hands Hammer
Not enough gambling
I have an idea
Its a long shot but if it works, we can out flank the enemy and break the encirclement
I just need one tank for escort and one INF to carry
True
Sadly, a little late to execute this round
But next round if the situation still calls for it lmk
I’d be down
@odd lake Hey, so, it turns out, you can't drop supplies on the floor
I've shared the map in tac-com and they all pointed it out 😅
The only supplies you can drop are for the artillery, who can store it, or any units that can store supplies, otherwise, no dropping supplies on the floor
So sadly gonna have to ask you to please delete & repost :/
......I want to choke a mothefucker
I KNOW
It's been a tough ride for me too
@muted eagle Hit me up when you're up for tac-mapping too when possible
On my way home, should be able to do it in about half an hour
I’m glad to see storm isn’t the only group suffering
-# Even if you’re dying by bureaucratic methodology
Will the VTOL landings be on that map as well French?
Nope, on the other one
one map for "if picket line lands we deploy"
one map for "deploying anyways with vtol/hvtol/hat"
no >:(
so does that mean i have to redo my order?
lemme look
no you're good because you're paradropping from a hat
meaning you got all your movement so you can hold
thank you. i wanted to be sure
i'm interpreting it as such anyways
I'm back home to I can helped with the maps if you need
can you get in a vc ? it'll be quicker that way lol
I would greatly appreciate the help
I've been on this for the full day now
Not final VTOL/HVTOL map, it's missing the high orbit mapping which is gonna be done by our lovely @muted eagle !
Yes, I know, the HAT drop isn't there 😅
Just noticed
@hazy radish Maybe put me (HLFS) closer to the border of the hex so that my sandbags can help more. Also I technically place two sandbag walls
I'm hopping to just take atlas' tac-map for it
I think thoses are 2
Otherwise closer to enni you mean ?
Ok. Rules says long enough to cover two squads so I figured it would be two sections. And yes I think that is what the people over at storm were wanting from the deployment. Provide so cover to Enni
I figured it would be two sections.
On the token I got it's 2 sections technically xD
lookie!
It's just hard to see with all that's happening.
Lol yeah I see it now
Otherwise the only issue is uhm
...map's pretty crowded
not quite sure how i'm getting you to sandbag enni
OH I KNOW
reverse dice & you
good thinking me
@sleek cedar looks any better now ?
Heres the answer to the VTOL question:
All VTOLs should wait to launch until the Vulture is dead. Their path would then be: [0.5] deploy from a VTOL bay, [2.5] descend to the city, [0.5] land, [0.5] unload cargo. It's ok for them to wait in orbit until the Frigate is dead, I confirmed that with Shack in a very long conversation.
Uhhhh.
Feels like that answer has come 22 hours late but, at least for map making it's good ?
@muted eagle
So wait when do the vtols & hvtols want to come out and their cargo then ?
scratches head
I dunno, but yeah, I am now realising that we would have to wait for the vulture to be dead if we want to do it, otherwise we don't have enough speed 😅
Meaning I don't think we have to worry about the map with deploying the VTOLs in orbit of Elim... I think...?
we don't ?
nono we do have the speed if the vulture is alive i think
1 speed is one hex, so... lemmelook
No, if it's 2.5 just to descend to the city, absolutely not 😅
I think it's about 1.5 hexes to get into the zone
So that's 1.5 + 0.5 + 2.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 I think
Which is 5.5?
descending takes speed aswell ?
I'm gonna go check
fuck me the more we map things the more problems we encounter
what is this, stormblessed ?
Alright, "Aerospace assets including orbitals can move between high orbit and low orbit using half their speed"
So yeah, they use half their speed to descend
So we're .5 speed over
Sooooooooo 1/3 of the orders are fucked ?
Our original plan had the VTOLs hanging back while we boarded the Vulture, that was because the VTOLs did not have enough speed to reach the city from the tactical map.
That's why they have to wait for the Vulture to die.
No, I don't think they are
The player orders happen in the order YOU decide, its fine.
So long as vulture is killed it's fine
Yeah so I just need to add all the vtol & hvtol and all in the same map ?
Since all the deployment, vtol & hvtol included, is ONLY if the vulture dies ?
Correct ?
Yes
Yes. Dont even put an "IF" in your orders.
Aaaand I can already see units overlapping by combining the two
that is a mechanical if that shack must know about
it's not a self imposed "if"
No no no.
if the vulture dies, we can all happily deploy and orders work
if it doesn't, we can't do shit
Confidence
Post the orders. If they're wrong because something happens, we'll find out.
Corretct, 2.5 to descend.
Does that apply to HAT drop too?
I DONT KNOW
He already does, we had a page of conversation about it.
Does it ???
Yes
we may have slightly fudged our distances so it was perfect. It was more like 5.15 distance.
3.5 for HATs, since descent is 1/2 total speed.
It's ok, just put the drop locations and deployment on the map, you don't need to track every foot of movement.
it has just dawned on me if the orbital doesn't die this whole day of me working through every order & figuring out every rule has been useless
yay for existential crisis
anyways
-# take a deep breath
achoo
IT IS HARD TO DO SO MY MAN 🤣
I've been trying to figure this out for the past 6 hours now
Take a deep breath 🔫
I am never doing an orbital or any kind of air drop ever again lmaooo
if it does happen during this campaign vivian you're the sole responsible for all this 🤣
Alright
for tac-mapping I mean
-# you're panicking, its ok, Shack understands we'll make mistakes, just do what you can
does happen again*
I just need to know, what's happening tomorrow ?
could I interst you in helping TACCOM for STORM next campaign /jk
or, uh, 10 hours from now, if timezones
I may sign on with a group doing dedicated air-ground stuff next campaign and try to help Tac Com. This looks like an interesting experience.
We see if Vulture dies and STORM gets reinforcements. Otherwise, STORM will hold and try to survive one more turn, and you guys will have to re-do deployment orders.
Put your orders in as if the frigate will die, the VTOLs can deploy wherever they want.
There's no ifs.
"interesting"
...that might be the less fitting word to describe this experience I've had 🤣
Yup! Hope for the best, put orders in as if you all can make it.
If you want to help tac-com for iron hammer i'm not against it lol
The help would be appreciated
If it doesn't happen, that's what STORM will be doing.
this is, hopefully, wrapped up, with HOPEFULLY, no more "hey actually this rule is a thing" popping up
I don't want to Tac Com this campaign because I have never even been a player before. My first time writing an order was yesterday. I am not really qualified to directing others.
so, midrounds ?
a logistical nightmare, you mean.
STORM only works because we have a lot of people in the same time-zone, and each VTOL/Player pair communicates a lot as well.
I'm not qualified either! :D
you're not hearing from me tomorrow, i'm off armco tomorrow until start of the new orders lmao
Maybe in a round or 2 I can help
Hey actually the map numbers we used were wrong and every order needs to be shifted to the right. /jk
Bet, I wasn't qualified in C3 and didn't have a single order under my belt too back then when I made Iron Hammer.
As long as you're active enough and like to search for information and eventually mapping some stuff, i'm happy to have ya.
So wait then
Just do the ground units how you like, and assume the VTOLs can land and deploy anywhere.
do we need a high orbit map from @muted eagle ?
You won't need a high orbit map
Everything's from the Strategic map
welp vivian, trash the high orbit map, sorry.
Nah, don't be sorry
i've had to trash my map earlier when i started it.
noice
If Vulture lives I think Shack can wing putting us in a vulnurable position (or not moving)
It wont
Just send me what you got for the ground map so far, I'll look at it
We've got time, we can help you out
yeah i've sent both earlier hold on
I'm not gonna fuse both maps, it's gonna be more headaches then it's worth.
I'll add in the iron hammer header & the hat paradrop on the second map then I figure we're done
Good idea
That looks great to me
Do you have any of the airdrop worked out? reminder we have to deploy in a line along the HATs route.
Very clear what's going on
Yup, Ixen's done it and I'll add it onto our map
'tis my job 
Yea, I'll post a zoom in so its easier to see
I imagine next map will be a LOT simpler
YES, YES IT WILL.
Thank you for all your work French! 
NO AIR DEPLOYMENT
I'd just take out the "if" statement. That's one of the only hard rules Shack doesn't like.
Now only thing is i have no idea what i'm gonna go next campaign
because i sure as hell am not going rugged air transport 🤣
Lol
Just don't be a rugged air transport and a TAC-COM, let somebody else figure out the logistics :p