Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms

[hazy radish]

scratches head
I dunno, maybe ?

Funny numbers, magic man

[glad hedge]

I would recommend either putting these numbers in percentages or as something between 0 and 1

[fading badge]

Make my units captains hat the impossible one lol

[neat fossil]

Its just a quick thing I threw together to check if my RNG is broken or not.

Maybe I'll add a stats feature

[muted eagle]

If you ever have a issue with programming, feel free to send me the code and ping me

I'll do my best to help

[iron arrow]

Btw is that a Leclerc? (i don't know about tanks don't kill me pls)

[hazy radish]

No, kpz70 I think

It's okay

[median epoch]

I can poll them to see if they'd be willing to go to 25

[hazy radish]

we'll get there when we get there I guess

I was told 20 I'm working with 20 x)

Makes me think, didn't I need to brush on the rules at some point ?

[median epoch]

At least the ground combat rules, don't stress about the space stuff

[hazy radish]

Yeah, yeah.

While I'm here, make sure everyone's got their unit activated in here 👀

[rigid oar]

This is alot to wake up to. Hopefully their wasn’t too much gambling while I slept.

[rigid oar]

But if they do that they won’t know the joy of looking through stack overflow for hours. JK.

[hazy radish]

Just your average amount.

[rigid oar]

We should do BG gambling for where our BG goes. I know we said we will go cross roads but nothing wrong with more gambling right?

[hazy radish]

No

Let's, not do too much...

[rigid oar]

Haha fair.

French as a veteran when planning was it always free form or did your BG ever do a weekly meeting or something? Just wondering what to look forward too.

[hazy radish]

Honnestly it evolved quite a bit

Like, first turn, I had all this very VERY detailed plan of where every single one, we think should go

Then like, 3-4 turns in I was like

"okay but why must I be so fucking precise"

And then plans started to be more laxx

& they're thought of in here, you just need to be active really

I'm not gonna ping every single person to get their opinion each time, sadly, that'd be lots of pings every day.

Just look towards the pinned, and you'll get a ping if your order is lacking, generally letting you catch up if you didn't follow on the discussions

[rigid oar]

Thats fair. I didnt expect a weekly teams meeting or anything, especially due to different time zones. I just didnt know if you like had a usuall discussion time in the past or something. I will try to be as active as i can.

[hazy radish]

Pretty much usual discussion time yeah

Like if #midround-events hits, or at the end of a round when shack posts the new map in #campaign-briefing-room, there used to be quite a lot of discussion about "so, what do" within the next hours normally

Thing this will probably happen after "round 0" when storm blessed & fluffle are gonna show up to the bots, we're gonna get a lot more intel and might (?) need to change our plans

I say might, because tbh it's stayed relatively same so far for us because "hehe we want crossroads :)" exept now "hehe we transported by atlas (potentially)"

[rigid oar]

Either way im looking forward to it.

[hazy radish]

Yeah. :D

It'll be a lot more active once we have more concrete & meta campaign related things to discuss.

Why do you think we devolved into memes ? That's how Iron Hammer did it to occupy their free time in C3 aswell 🤣

[rigid oar]

I mean thats completly fair. Also we haven't devolved we are just trying to improve moral for BG cohesion and to increase mission success rate.

[hazy radish]

Exactly !

Improving moral !

[rigid oar]

[round mesa]

So who's taking TF2 down to the surface, us or you guys? @hazy radish

[hazy radish]

Good question

I dunno.

So far us, but depends on the last recruits, I've pinged some folks from iron hammer again, and 2 have awoken again, will they join Iron Hammer again, or will we get new recruits ? Who knows.

If we're above 20 I'm considering atlas transport busted for us for all I'm aware

[muted eagle]

No actually

[hazy radish]

I'll let atlas & you guys know if that happens

When sign-ups are closed by shack, we will have the final decision done due to numbers not being able to change no more I think

[muted eagle]

They're having a vote right now and it looks like they're willing to use 1 more LS to transport

[hazy radish]

They are ?!

[muted eagle]

So we can go up to 25 and they'll be alright with transporting us

[muted eagle]

Yep

[hazy radish]

Fuck me what's convincing them we're better then Pathfinders ? They've got cute animals ! >w<

...maybe that. 🤣

[muted eagle]

We're a more offensive BG

Yeah

We've got a lot in terms of fighting

And Atlas has a total of 18 LS, so they do have a lot

[eager carbon]

I shall be joining here once more
(once i waken again)
and shall need lift to surface as planing on being medic once more

[hazy radish]

writes 21
Hey, so that's atlas transport busted, I guess we have our answer. 🤣

Not your fault Tubsay, I am absolutely okay with you joining again and will recruit you anyways despite atlas transport being, potentially gone lol, not your fault in the slightest.

Hype to see you come back ! ❤️

[eager carbon]

I am sure it will be finee
i can just strap my guys to the hull right?

[hazy radish]

Eh... Maybe they've got some duck tape layin' around...

The sheet is pinned if you wanna sign up on it btw 👀

ALSO YOU SHOULD CONSIDER SLEEPING TUBSAY DANGIT

[eager carbon]

I am going I am going

and shall do as the last thing before bed

[muted eagle]

Damn, we got a third medic? Nice

[hazy radish]

If infantry dies, I will personally hold someone accountable

[fierce dirge]

I imagine conversations can get quite messy.
So how do you make sure it is clear?
Like writing the specific order idea's in excel and having the discussion in discord?

[hazy radish]

...don't know who tho. We'll figure it out by gambling.

[hazy radish]

Basically, writing the idea we've got in one big message with a screen of said idea and pinning it

• with of course, the disclaimer that, i'm gonna start to make

[hazy radish]

YOU CAN PLAY WHATEVER YE FUCKIN WANT TO PLAY

Our idea is to go north but you wanna go south ? Sure
You wanna rush in your VTOL with 12 speed right into the ennemies ? That's a bad idea, but you can do it

The only limitation there is is the unit coherency rule, where we all have to be on the same strategic map point (so, elim, crossroads, etc)
But other then that ? While we may have ideas, a rough plan, thoughts, recommendations, in the end, you can do whatever you fucking want

It's best if we all coordinate together, in this BG, with the other BG and TF, but if you wanna go do your own thing, you can. 👀

...don't worry about not everyone seeing this, there's gonna be plenty more disclaimers of me saying "you can do what you want" 🤣

[mighty osprey]

got it boss, rush enemy with infantry wave turn one

[left thistle]

Worked for me last time

-# it most certainly didn’t

[muted eagle]

The dice says 8 turns before an infantry dies

[hazy radish]

Also, while I'm thinking about it

I very much like your callsign @atomic basalt 👀

Also verified, exept for tubsay, everyone's got their unit active normally.

[neat fossil]

I would upload the upgraded gambler now, but its nearly 2 am and I really want to add some memory to store some values, so I guess it’ll come tomorrow. Wait not tomorrow, in the morning.

[hazy radish]

2 a-

fucking timezones.

[mighty osprey]

ikr

like goddamn

[hazy radish]

actually, now i'm wondering...

[mighty osprey]

its noon here

[hazy radish]

what's the difference between UTC and GMT ?

[left thistle]

Isn’t it the same thing?

[hazy radish]

...it is

good to know.

[left thistle]

Yeah I had to look it up when filling out the sheet lol. I usually just use EST, but that’s almost exclusively an American thing.

[muted eagle]

There is no difference

I have no clue why both UTC and GMT exist

We only need one

[left thistle]

Apparently one starts at noon and the other at midnight

[hazy radish]

true, i think GMT is used more by the english peeps and UTC by europeans

OK IVE JUST DONE SOMETHING

WE HAVE HUNTER AT UTC-8

AND TUBSAY AT GMT+10

WE HAVE 2 PEOPLE

WHO ARE

18 HOURS APART

IN THE SAME BATTLEGROUP

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-wtf-what-the-fuck-wth-what-the-hell-gif-16374034

I've organized it by timezone

[neat fossil]

If you think about it, 18 hours apart is really just 6 hour apart on different days.

[hazy radish]

also realized some numbers are fcked 1s

(counting is hard)

[left thistle]

In terms of waking hours it’s not actually that different I think?

[hazy radish]

counting fixed edition

[hazy radish]

Yeah I mean, on average we're like 3-6 hours apart, something like that

[dim plaza]

Hello People!
So do we have a plan for the First round, like... Beeing Transported by Aurora or something like that ?

[hazy radish]

So far, being transported by Atlas, maybe, it depends on if they're okay with us being 21

Even so, Atlas won't instantaneously get to Elim City, so we'll have to wait a bit aswell.

[muted eagle]

Yeah, it'll be some time before we get there

[solar bear]

Morning guys... What did I miss??

[hazy radish]

I've pinged a few peeps, Tubsay is back once he wakes up tomorrow

Volverbot is looking at S.A.M thinking what he's gonna do

And we're 21

...which means maybe atlas transport is borked, but it depends on them not us

[solar bear]

Soo 2 old hammers and our plans getting invalidated... Normal for Hammer I'm afraid...

[hazy radish]

hehe

the usual

[dim plaza]

Okay so we can relax abit befor we get dirtside

[hazy radish]

I think, yeah ?

I mean, we got a gambling python script :)

[fierce dirge]

I thought GMT was the standard in Europe and UTC in NA.
But like... what is time anyways.
Should we just pick one to avoid confusion?

[hazy radish]

UTC = GMT

we could convert either into UTC or GMT, doesn't matter really

if you mean "pick a timezone", that's gonna be difficult 🤣

[fierce dirge]

Yes, have the same timezone across the entire world 🙂
No more confusion ever about what time it is.

And/or move every player to the same timezone >.>

I would pick GMT, cuz I always confuse the UTC with one of those American timezones.

[hazy radish]

aight fine for gmt then

OH ALSO

DYNAGRUM

WE GOT A THIRD MBT BUDDY

🎉

[solar bear]

If you guys pay for my plane tickets, I move to GMT kkk

[fierce dirge]

🎆 does a little jiggle 🎆
Welcome to the team Dreadnought! Remember to provide the engineers with many shinies to keep them happy! 🙂

[spare pollen]

Hey French, BG 10 is a thing again 😄

[hazy radish]

I saw ! :D

[left thistle]

Lmao the psyop is real

[median epoch]

Atlas Here: Poll hasn't closed yet, but it's 9:1 in favor of increasing our max BG size to 25. (We got some more crew and more Cargo Bays and can afford the room).

We also got ANOTHER Heavy Drop pod (up to 4 now), and have room for another Light Mech to join our Phoenix Helldivers.

[hazy radish]

yippeeeeeee

[muted eagle]

Right, so assuming we manage to capture Elim, do we want to support in crossroads for the airfield or do we want to attack north into hill mine to try and help the civilians?

[fading badge]

be advised that venator and like 4 other BGs are going crossroads

[muted eagle]

Yeah

[fading badge]

i dont think yall will be needed there lol

[muted eagle]

I don't think crossroads needs more help

But who knows, we might decide anyway

[left thistle]

Honestly pushing through the northern approach toward Haydar isn’t a bad idea

[iron arrow]

you and the 50 other bg's were/are going for ziyal yes?

[left thistle]

It would still allow us to help crossroads after the other bgs move on

[muted eagle]

Yeah

[iron arrow]

why would we 'not be needed there'

[left thistle]

Well maybe not needed on the initial approach? Unless our tfs completely push out the bot ships, crossroads is still going to need security from orbital assaults after the other bgs move on

[fading badge]

because were there

https://tenor.com/view/tank-tanks-gif-sliding-low-gif-25206958

[muted eagle]

I mean, we can get to Ziyal via hill mine anyway

[fading badge]

AND WE BRING VIOLENCE

[iron arrow]

Now i knowe who not to trust

[left thistle]

Though unless atlas agrees to stick with us for a couple turns, our mobility gets severely reduced after landing

[muted eagle]

And I imagine it'd be good to split our forces between hill mine and crossroads anyway so that we can hopefully secure both those areas

[muted eagle]

Yeah, our mobility isn't great unfortunately

Unless we get like, 4 Vtols out of nowhere

[left thistle]

Yeah unless that happens, or atlas sticks with us, we’re def more of a defensive force

[muted eagle]

Well I know exactly where they'd come from, they'd come from storm but I doubt we're getting a generous donation of VTOLs from them

[left thistle]

Do we know which bgs are going where yet?

[hazy radish]

crossroads for me

that was the plan since day 1 for me 👀

[left thistle]

As the endpoint of our march? Or like the primary objective we should gun for immediately?

[hazy radish]

primary, pretty much

Our primary objective would be to go and secure the Crossroads. We won't have any taskforce deployment as we are a late bloomer battlegroup (days after everyone), so we will deploy turn 2 into Elim City, and from there hopefully get into the cross roads to defend it !

[left thistle]

Gotcha gotcha

[hazy radish]

that was in the preface, I get the "not getting transported by taskforce" hasn't aged well lol

I'm fine with putting it in question, but I did like going to crossroads with everyone tbh

[left thistle]

Yeah, I def think we need to end up at crossroads, it’s perhaps the most important point on the map (and no one else seems keen on defending it). Just exploring alternatives on our approach

[muted eagle]

I feel like we'll be needed much more in the north up hill mine

[hazy radish]

🤔

[muted eagle]

Unless the folks at the crossroads have a severe lack of medics

[hazy radish]

I'm currently playing a game rn so if anyone wanna fire up a poll or keep debating go forth

[iron arrow]

DF - Hill mine
Phalanx rabbit and storm - QRF
Pathfinder - Crossroads then Nerys
Flying shovels - Crossroads
Literally everyone else - Ziyal
(212th don't count)
as of a few days ago at least

[left thistle]

Ziyal through crossroads? Or straight shot by orbital?

[muted eagle]

I mean, I can't imagine we can just go straight from Elim to Ziyal

[iron arrow]

through that or hill mine i think

[left thistle]

Ah okay okay, I thought it was just df going through the northern approach

Thanks, I’m texting on break at work so I can’t rly look things up myself rn

[iron arrow]

oh shit i forgot flying shovels

they're at crossroads

[left thistle]

But they’re mostly engi and logistics right?

[iron arrow]

yeah

they probably have some Inf and medics though (at least)

[solar bear]

I don't think Hill Mine will me a good idea for us... We are more of a mechanized BG then anything else at this point... Hill Mine have the potential of us getting ambush...

[muted eagle]

Pathfinder are going to try go Nerys Village via crossroads

[iron arrow]

Oh Awesome

[muted eagle]

There we go

[left thistle]

For the hillmine option, are we continuing to push forward after?

[fierce dirge]

This is fair, but are we fast enough to reach where the civilians?
I guess we could also try to get help from another BG or TF.

[hazy radish]

As I thought we're not that many in crossroads then eh ?

[hazy radish]

Let's get votin' !

[hazy radish]

We're 1 speed unless we get a miracle

[hazy radish]

Problem for later, but seems legit ye

[median epoch]

FYI, if Logi Corps becomes a thing, you could hitch rides and travel with them, increasing your speed

[rigid oar]

At this point just hopeing and praying logi corp does become a thing

[muted eagle]

There's still more going for crossroads than hill mine

[median epoch]

Atlas could also re-deploy you at Crossroads

but now we're planning two or three steps in advance, and step 1 is uncertain still

[muted eagle]

Yeah, who doesn't love planning way in advance?

[median epoch]

Not me >.>

-# don't look at our doc

[muted eagle]

I do it because I get bored

[iron arrow]

Nop

[rigid oar]

Same. I just want to get in their already

[muted eagle]

Ok, looking at it, we have Venator, Redwall, Spearhead, Flying shovels and pathfinders going through crossroads

So we do actually have quite a few planning to go through crossroads

And as for hill mine, it's dwarf fortress and ultra

[sleek cedar]

Always surprised no one (not just us but like the whole 500) considers Nerys Village or Cell'Dar Mine. Nerys is the same distance from Elim as Haydar and Ziyal and we have groups targeting them. Cell'Dar is a mine which would make it a prime target to assault and reduce enemy force capabilities since we were told the bots like to reinforce. Cell'Dar even has a Nav Beacon directly to it. Did I miss something that makes them not important? I know Hill still has civvies there but that just KNOWN intel. Could be that the perceived remoteness of Nerys or Cell'Dar (More Nerys than the mine) may allow for civilians to still be living or a smaller enemy force would be present. Just thoughts tho.

[mighty osprey]

Part of it just just how remote they both are i think, you cant reach Nerys by ground except through crossroads, but its futher from the frontlines compared to anything else that far to reach, and Cell'Dar is way out of the way, you either need areospace transport or you have to go through Ziyal, which getting there in the first place would take a while

[muted eagle]

You do actually make a good point actually, I suppose it's that we know there is benefit from certain locations, so we end up dismissing the potential benefit of the other locations

Right, what I'm about to suggest is probably inconceivably stupid and risky

But

We have a HVTOL

So we can transport our vehicles from atlas down to the ground, albeit taking some time

And so we are all able to drop onto the planet

What if instead of attempting to drop at elim

We attempted to drop at cell'dar mine

[mighty osprey]

We could, but thats something we'd have to talk with Atlas about, and we'd be pretty cutt off the entire time

[muted eagle]

I reckon we're just about self sufficient enough to do it

[mighty osprey]

Also doesn't Atlas have to drop off other people

[muted eagle]

Atlas has to resupply others, but they're only dropping us off

Unless you're talking about their drop pods troopers

[mighty osprey]

a variety of things but if we're the only ones being transported its less of an issue

[muted eagle]

Yeah, were the only BG being transported by atlas

[mighty osprey]

ok cool

[iron arrow]

they also have a mech team they're dropping

[muted eagle]

Atlas could definitely help in securing it too

With their odt, pai and mechs

[iron arrow]

and maaaybee paradropping people with their HATs

[muted eagle]

Yeah

Exactly

[iron arrow]

don't quote me on that one though

[muted eagle]

The thing that'll take the longest is our vehicles

[mighty osprey]

yeah, but we might be able to use their drop pods for our LM and ODT to get a rapid first deployment force down

I'd want to talk to Atlas and do the math, but i do think it could work

[muted eagle]

Ok, so should I remove the vote and put it back up with cell'dar as an option?

[mighty osprey]

lets talk with Atlas first, i dont want to take a vote on something we dont know is possible yet

[muted eagle]

Fair enough

[left thistle]

Cell’dar does leave us very cut off tho

Like we’d have to wait until the other bgs make it to ziyal before we can get reliable reinforcements

[mighty osprey]

yeah thats what im worried about, not sure how many people are actually capable of helping us at Cell'dar

[left thistle]

We’re heavily reliant on clear sky’s until then

[muted eagle]

Well, it's a big risk certainly

[left thistle]

Cause it’d only rly be the tfs that can get to us

[muted eagle]

But I like our odds

[iron arrow]

I think so many groups are going for ziyal... why bother?

[rigid oar]

What ever lets us help out the most civvies im down for

[left thistle]

Here’s the other thing, how many other bgs are round one deploys like we are rn?

[iron arrow]

Us annd storm

[left thistle]

If it’s a few then we need to be securing elim before anything else

Oh

[muted eagle]

Because why join in the dog piling into Ziyal? We already have so many trying to take it

[rigid oar]

If its only 2 BG then yeah we might need to go for Elim

[muted eagle]

We don't need everyone to take Ziyal

[iron arrow]

plus the Atlas ground combat forces

[mighty osprey]

wait its just us then can we afford not trying to take Elim

[muted eagle]

I think there was one more, but I trust in storm

[rigid oar]

Also are we still turn one if we have 21 members?

[left thistle]

Yeahhh, if those are the numbers we need to prioritize elim otherwise the op can’t go forward lol

[rigid oar]

Yeah we dont want to be the bottleneck

[left thistle]

Yep atlas seems to be leaning towards 25 units of deploy capacity

[iron arrow]

Exactly, so why go to cell'dar if they have enough to punch thrpough ziyal and get around to cell'dar anyway

[rigid oar]

Cool. IF thats the case we have to bring the hammer down on Elim if its going to hold everyone else up

[mighty osprey]

we arent tryign to take Ziyal, or at least in my understanding we aren't, we are staying and holding crossroads, defening it and our supply lines from any forces coming from all the possible invasion points

[iron arrow]

and maybe storm could be convinced to go there earlier then that too

[left thistle]

This was my understanding too

[rigid oar]

Also does the speed 2 demontsration need to be refactored on the google sheet?

[mighty osprey]

we're basically in charge of guarding the Airfield and responding to anyone who needs help

[mighty osprey]

yeah its way off

[muted eagle]

We also have the light freighters at the mining station too which can transport a bg or two onto Elim I believe

[left thistle]

Not rly, all the newly added units are at min speed 2

[rigid oar]

Which way

[left thistle]

Right but that would increase the time for other boots on the ground even more leaving us stranded for a longer period of time

Which could be totally fine! But it is a risk we need to consider

[mighty osprey]

we got another Medic

[muted eagle]

I'm personally willing to take the risk

But that might just be my suicidalness

[left thistle]

Oh yeah, forgot about that lol

[rigid oar]

I think securing Elim is the first priority and if it is not garunteed without us then we should go for it.

[sleek cedar]

Except there are like 2 BGs that are saying they are doing exactly that besides us lol

[mighty osprey]

Well we also like, kinda need to be at Elim, the whole reason we we're being transported is because we're a small group with high power (3MBTs), that can deploy and hopefully take Elim early

[sleek cedar]

Fair

[rigid oar]

Exactly. We need to be at Elim to secure the ground for others.

Plus it would suck to force other BG to wait just because we decided to go another route. The faster we can secure Elim the more boots on the ground when we need them.

[mighty osprey]

thats fair, maybe we can try and take Elim and then move somewhere other than crossroads later

[left thistle]

I mean the northern route is still an option: take elim and then push through till Haydar

[sleek cedar]

This all hangs on wether or not the spaceport is usable turn 1 since it is still, as of our last intel, in friendly hands. If it is usable, then everyone can land with or without our help. If not then yeah we need to help

[left thistle]

Wait which ones? I thought the only other bg confirmed to be staying at crossroads is flying shovels?

[rigid oar]

Part of me doubts it wont be undersiege or something like that

[left thistle]

And the rest were just powering through

[rigid oar]

Is any BG planning to go to Nery's Village?

[muted eagle]

Pathfinders

It may actually be good to assist them considering they aren't particularly well armed

[left thistle]

That’s another option for sure

[rigid oar]

Especially considering it is one of the main avenues to Elmis and if we lose that city we are shit out of luck.

[sleek cedar]

Im out of date. I thought when browsing the BGs there were a few. Most everyone now is labeling as QRF. Rabbits is supposedly going to be dropped at Crossroads by Fluffle, Redwall has updated their info and are planning on going to Crossroads and seeing what happens, and I figured Storm and Phalanx would exist around the logi hub as QRF

[iron arrow]

I mean we could after securing crossroads, if there are no threats around us and somehow Army group Everyone isn't pushing the bots out of Ziyal, then move into Ziyal (maybe w/ atlas?) presumably from a different part of the city and save their asses help eliminate the bots there

[mighty osprey]

We can also, try and go from Elim to Crossroads to Ziyal, and push past Ziyal to Cellidar

[muted eagle]

That is another option, yeah

Around Ziyal and into Cell'Dar

Possibly with support from Atlas's PAI, ODTs and LMs

[mighty osprey]

Yeah thats fine, i doubt Cell'Dar with be super heavily defended

[left thistle]

Or into haydar since I don’t think any of the northern bgs are pushing that far?

Honestly going to crossroads just gives us the most options lol

[mighty osprey]

also that

[left thistle]

And even more so if atlas is willing to transport us again sometime after the initial drop

[rigid oar]

But the problem is everyone overcommiting to crossroads and if we get pushed back on any of the other routes the bots might go to Elmis

[mighty osprey]

yeah, part of the problem is out of all the big pushing forces, we're pretty slow

[muted eagle]

Ultra is

[mighty osprey]

Yeah but if we're out crossroads and they take Hill Mine, we can push behind them from Haydar

[left thistle]

Oh right, I can’t keep track of all the bgs at this point lol

[left thistle]

The only other route we could rly help with is the other ground route to Elim in the north and I think df has plans to just camp in hillmine and fortify the shit out of it

Any other route would be an orbital attack and we’d be too slow to react anyway

[rigid oar]

Wouldnt that just push them into Elmis city before we can get to them and then we will have to attack Elmis

[left thistle]

It’s certainly an issue, but we’re also a bit too slow to do anything about it lol

[mighty osprey]

I mean im assuming DF still exists they've just fallen back, if DF gets wiped that a massive issue regardless

im also assuming we have some support forces staying behind at Elim

[rigid oar]

Thats fair

[left thistle]

NPCs maybe but idt any player groups are sticking around

[iron arrow]

yeah the local cops

[mighty osprey]

lol, well its something

[left thistle]

Sorry didn’t mean to dogpile on you there lol

[mighty osprey]

this is kinda the biggest issue we have, which is why i thought we were going to just stay put and dig in

[rigid oar]

Naw im ok with being a naysayer and asking questions. If I am wrong I am wrong.

[left thistle]

Great mindset to have!

New ideas will never not be welcome

[mighty osprey]

I think we stick at Elim, we can go mostly anywhere from there

and its a known variable, versus an unknown risk (despite all our gambling addictions)

[muted eagle]

Right, so I think we cut out the idea of dropping onto Cell'Dar

[sleek cedar]

Counter offer

we land elim then reload and land celldar

[mighty osprey]

that is one of the things we we're discussing

[left thistle]

Waittttt, now that you put it that way… we gotta hot drop onto ziyal

[iron arrow]

atlas will not want that

[mighty osprey]

goddammit

[left thistle]

We can always ask

[iron arrow]

and we with atlas are kinda crucial for Flying shovel's airbase

[left thistle]

-# this is quickly becoming my favorite gif lol

[mighty osprey]

you know Vivian, sometimes i think me and you are the angel and devil on French's shoulder, not sure who is who though

[muted eagle]

We're both the angel and devil at the same time

[mighty osprey]

lol

[mighty osprey]

That was my thought too, but apparently a bunch of people are sticking their, but i really have no clue

So Atlas has mentioned they could be willing to transport us to the Cell'Dar after we take Elim, if we would like. I think its a good idea, we just need to figure out if we're needed to protect Flying Shovel, and if thats something we want to do

[sleek cedar]

The potential Island hopping campaign. We land Elim, then (Atlas willing) we reload and land Nerys village bypassing anything lurking at crossroads. Once the village threat level is understood or delt with, we load up and go to Cell'dar (again atlas willing). This allows the large ground BGs to move overland and secure objectives without us potentially getting stranded without support. Atlas is able to prevent any bot orbitals from passing along the bottom of the planet, as fluffle would be in the center only leaving the northern terrestrial route for orbitals to head to Elim.

[mighty osprey]

I'm not sure if i want to go to both the Village and Cell'dar, planning that far in the future seems like asking for everything to go to hell, its also alot to ask of Atlas

and it would take a lot of time

[sleek cedar]

I know. I theory craft a lot. sorry

[mighty osprey]

Hey no worries, the discussion is good

If we could deploy all at once i'd be fine with but, but the issue is Atlas cant help us deploy our IFVs and MBTs at a place without an Airfield, and i doubt that the village and the mine have those

i dont know exactly how long it would take but its at least 4 drops

[sleek cedar]

Very fair. I'm trying to think of ways to use our size as a plus. Atlas has us designed to use storm's HVTOLs to get us down, I must have missed that on their page

And I had not considered that light mechs require HVTOLs as well.

[mighty osprey]

We can use drop pods for the Light Mechs

[sleek cedar]

To get back on a ship

[mighty osprey]

that is true

we're small so we can be carried easily, but we're heavily reliant on other people to deploy quickly

[muted eagle]

Yeah

Maybe we could see if we could get one of the HVTOLs from storm in our BG

that'd double the speed we can deploy our vehicles

[mighty osprey]

I still think the best plan is to stay at crossroads with Flying Shovel, and let the faster groups deal with responding to threats

[mighty osprey]

maybe... i think they might need theirs

Yeah they have 2 MBTs

[sleek cedar]

I just think we are too small to provide effective security, nor do we have the ability to really counter enemy Air. Redwall is also planning on going to Crossroads as well. We can also try and work in concert with Storm as their primary goal is to take Elim which we can do with Atlas. Then rearm and repair and move in concert with Atlas to another location with Storm.

[mighty osprey]

I mean, i think we can pretty effectively create a frontline with screens using the infantry and we have enough VTOLs we can pick up and drop of groups of units, also, pretty sure Storm and Atlas are going to crossroads anyway

[eager lichen]

STORM is going to be jumping all over the place to wherever we are needed. Don't make too many plans for sticking to us past T5 (Starport secure, BGs landed).

[sleek cedar]

Fair enough

[muted eagle]

Btw, I removed the previous vote now that we've thought of more of the potential options we have

[iron arrow]

...So where are people's opinions at now?

so many ideas got floated around i'm a bit confused

[mighty osprey]

My thought is land Elim, go to crossroads, stay there until something that no one else can handle pops up

[atomic basalt]

I just hope the resistance in Elim City is light enough we can secure the spaceport in one turn

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-meme-war-thunder-spinning-tank-tank-spinning-tank-meme-gif-16643712926259342223

[left thistle]

That would be ideal

Esp compared to the alternative of being bogged down in urban combat, trying to keep the supply lines open for the rest of the campaign

[hazy radish]

woh boy, gaming

[hazy radish]

And not help and secure the starport ? D:

[hazy radish]

My idea was "crossroads, and then we see from there on", my idea wasn't to say "we're defending it" or "we're being a qrf" or "we're assaulting X", the idea was just simple plan, simple idea, then when we get there at crossroads we'll cross that bridge and decide what will be done and what needs help, keeps us flexible.

[hazy radish]

Yes.

[eager lichen]

*Note: Celldar Mine is 5 strategic points from ELIM by land, 2 by Air. reinforcements will likely take 10+/4+ rounds to arrive

[hazy radish]

Boy, caught up everything

Lots of ideas being thrown jesus.

So, we're still all in agreement for Elim City, that I understood

The issue is "okay so where are we going after" with everyone wanting to go everywhere 🤣

Honneslty, if I chose Crossroads originally it's because at the time no one went there, as back then we all assumed "oh yeah planet is only taken up to ziyal we good", now that we got recon, it could make sense to switch

...as long as we don't overcomplicate things 😅

And also remember we're but a 21-sized BG in a 500+ game. We have some pushing power but, we won't do good if we encounter heavy resistance and I'm more enclined sticking with another BG then going on our own wild adventure alone tbh

[eager carbon]

thats how i feel waking up often

[hazy radish]

Good morning I guess then 🤣

[eager carbon]

haha morning

[hazy radish]

For my 2 cents:

• Still like Elim -> Crossroads as I said earlier because it's simple plan, simple idea. It also opens us more doors afterwards in the middle of the whole planet which is especially important to us since, we're, y'know, speed 1
• Elim -> Nerys could be done with Atlas but it seems wayyy too risky if we're the only BG there, especially since I remember pathfinders wanting to go there after going to crossroads
• Elim -> Hill Mine not a fan due to our amount of mechanized and the name of the place. + there's already a whole self-sufficient BG there who'll be working on the place.

[mighty osprey]

Not hill mine boss, the other one

The one at the bottom

[hazy radish]

huh?

this ???

https://tenor.com/view/friday-ice-cube-wtf-what-the-fuck-confused-gif-4180958

[mighty osprey]

Yeah that one

[hazy radish]

...is this Icarus ? 🤣

This feels like a god damn suicide plan

So, we wanna go, transported by one TF, get dropped in cell-dar (with prob' not a captured star port)
Get in, attack with 21 ground units (+ let's say 10 by atlas aswell idk) against what might be there
Not die because our only reinforcements will either be Storm Blessed or other Taskforces, which might not be happening depending on the situation around if they have been needed elsewhere
Hopefully Atlas stays alive to be able to bail us out if shit goes bad (especially since, I'm not so sure how good their fighter coverage is)

And somehow make it out alive on the other side ?!?

[steady zephyr]

„Spiritual guidance/succession“ 😂

[hazy radish]

I am, so, so much against this idea 😅

[eager carbon]

trying to choose if i want to refit to combat medics or medical corps

[hazy radish]

think combat medics can only attack or heal not both ?

unsure tho

[eager carbon]

says can fight and heal on the thing i am looking at

[hazy radish]

weird, I swear I heard someone say that

[eager lichen]

Ground reinforcements are 5 strat points away - assume 10+ rounds minimum, estimate 15-20 rounds.

By air... Only STORM, but we'll be heavily requested. (Unless 212th can help).

[last monolith]

@south ether you still looking to transfer to be our 15th?

[eager carbon]

i am guessing its not doing both on the same turn

[hazy radish]

Ground reinforcements are 5 strat points away - assume 10+ rounds minimum, estimate 15-20 rounds.
I did not even wanna calculate that, I just assumed ground help will not be coming

Or it will be

When we're either dead, extracted, or a mix of both. 🤣

[hazy radish]

I think ? 🤔

Might aswell ask meta comm.

[eager carbon]

yeah true

[mighty osprey]

When does the transfer window close?

[last monolith]

Sometime Captain’s tomorrow.

[mighty osprey]

Hey don’t look at me look at Vivian

[hazy radish]

Before the campaign officially begins I'd say.

[last monolith]

I’m still hoping for a few more, but I’m technically at 14 atm without the transfer so I figured I’d check in.

[mighty osprey]

If you don’t have a 15th by then I’ll swap, I wanna make sure you guys are legal

I’m a LM so I’ll be able to keep up

[hazy radish]

Edited 😭

[mighty osprey]

I know boss I know

But they gotta exist or were all screwed

[hazy radish]

true :/

[eager carbon]

I think i am gonna go with medical corps for the extra medical supplies to keep all you fools alive and fighting

[last monolith]

lol, I’m gonna keep trying to get a couple more. Don’t wanna force a transfer and have someone feeling like a filler.

[eager carbon]

refit done and unit activated for fighting with you all

[iron arrow]

Bad time to say I'm thinking of switching to atlas if I don't like our objectives huh

[mighty osprey]

Yeah ofc, just lemme know, I’m happy so swap over so y’all can exist

[hazy radish]

Oh and THERE IT IS 🤣

See, I've given one engineer and there goes everyone ! xD

I mean tbh the first step is gonna be elim city for sure

but with all the debate that's been going now crossroads sure, nerys maybe even if i'd prefer to do it* after crossroads, cell'dar mine not in a millions year in this BG unless we rename this "Icarus 2: Electric Boogaloo" and all sign a waiver saying "Yes, we are gonna die, but we wanna do it anyways"

[eager lichen]

Please do not jump to CELLDAR, we will not be able to bail you guys out.

[hazy radish]

Please god I hope not either.

[last monolith]

You got it. I’ll make a note and let you know.

[hazy radish]

I'm waiting to see what you're saying sven then i'm going to sleep

gaming with 28 fucking degrees (celcius, fahrenheit is 82,4) cooking in the house, i'm sweaty, i'm tired, it's gonna be hell theses following days

[mighty osprey]

I can assure you we are not jumping to Cell Dar

[hazy radish]

Are we ???? Reassure me man

[iron arrow]

The thing is I can't switch mid campaign so of everything starts off fine them we go in a direction I don't like I'm screwed

[hazy radish]

..yeah

what would be a direction "you don't like" ?

[mighty osprey]

I’m pretty sure the idea has been pretty steadily shot down

[iron arrow]

So i rly don't know

[mighty osprey]

Isn’t that an issue with every battle group?

[hazy radish]

I'm not saying I'll make sure to 100% avoid it because, well, ultimately, it's up to everyone, but idk, like, risky, more opponents, whatever, a description

[hazy radish]

The issue with us is that since we don't plan 47 steps in advance, it's uncertain

[mighty osprey]

No plan survives first contact with the enemy

[hazy radish]

Look at the recon round, ultimate proof of that. 🤣

[iron arrow]

Uh neryd or just staying in crossroads and doing nothing of. Note

[hazy radish]

why nerys may I ask ?

[iron arrow]

Or god forbid l, cell'dar

[hazy radish]

staying in the crossroads and doing nothing I understand

I got a good exemple

In C3, I devised the best tactic, with agreement, was to shoot the citadel with our MBTs, hold back, and just shoot round by round weakening their defences.

It would have been the best tactic, since only our MBTs with further range then them could outshoot them, and we'd easily fall over the citadel

Now, look over at literally everyone else in there who wasn't MBTs nor Artillery

they wouldn't do shit

[iron arrow]

I don't want to keep you awake for ages

[hazy radish]

SO, we did something a bit more stupid, but that was more fun and involved more people :)

(aka, rushing in a bit more x))

[hazy radish]

2h42am here, i ain't at 10 minutes more or less lol

[hazy radish]

if we do crossroads -> ziyal -> c-z -> cell'dar that's finer ight ?

it's just the icarus 2.0 electric boogaloo suicide extravaganza that you wanna avoid ?

[iron arrow]

No I just hate the place

[hazy radish]

a

[iron arrow]

So isolated

[hazy radish]

...ah

that's. huh.

[iron arrow]

No like

[hazy radish]

no because I won't lie nerys sounded like a solid go-to after crossroads, especially since pathfinders wanna head there too

and cell'dar, eventually, will need to get taken, and might be the last thing we take due to it's distance

[iron arrow]

...I explained it erong

[hazy radish]

okay

alr

no problems

[iron arrow]

Uh I hate the idea for most of the same reasons as you

To keep it short

Nerys is a bit more complicated

I will take ages and I would prefer not to stop yyou from sleeping

[hazy radish]

alright

respectable

can always type it and i'll bounce on it tmrw that's okay

TO SLEEP

https://tenor.com/view/bombshell-clarkson-gif-20397951

[eager carbon]

Night Boss

[hazy radish]

Good night !

[iron arrow]

Good night boss

[eager carbon]

[left thistle]

Okay tbh I’m also not to big of a fan on going to nerys unless we can guarantee atlas is going to be able to pick us up

[median epoch]

I can guarantee anything, as long as you're ok with it changing later /s

[left thistle]

Otherwise we gotta double back back to crossroads before going anywhere else

[left thistle]

Oh yeah I mean this is pure speculation at this point.

[mighty osprey]

Night boss

[left thistle]

I’m almost positive nothing is going to go as planned past round 1 lol

[eager lichen]

STORM is planned out until 4, mostly because any changes/delays means the entirety of ARMCO might be fucked.

Of course, we'll make some more modifications as needed

[left thistle]

Probably for the best for you guys given your mobility

[iron arrow]

I don't like the idea of going to back lines where that's less likely to have enemies or a big refugee Presence, Especially when pathfinder is also headed there

Now I must eep as welp

[left thistle]

Okay wait, what if we went Elim to crossroads and then after securing crossroads get airlifted to Cell’dar? That’ll keep us w the main group for the initial thrust, while also allowing us to be impactful after we get established by cutting off bot access to resources they might need to build reinforcements.

[eager lichen]

what airlift-

[left thistle]

And on that time table there will already be other bgs in ziyal that could come help us if things get hot

[left thistle]

👀👀👀

atlas if they’re still in the area most likely lol

[eager lichen]

No, actually, whoa re you getting the airlift from? STORM can't take you, you guys have too many vehicles.

Atlas might be doing Logi Taskings

Fluffle... possible but unlikely.

[eager lichen]

The BGs in Ziyal are probably busy getting pinned down, unfortunately.

[left thistle]

Yeah probably

Just spitballing some ideas to address the issues above

And the mine has to be taken at some point, esp if the intel about bots rebuilding forces using those resources is true otherwise it’ll be impossible to ever secure ziyal no?

[eager lichen]

Look - CELLDAR is incredibly risky for any units without airmobile capability - only 1 retreat path that brings you closer to the enemy.

[left thistle]

Oh ik it’s going to be risky no matter what we do if we go there. But if we want to make sure we have an impact after crossroads is secure, it’s an option worth considering

We could always just join the Zerg rush into ziyal as a second wave too

Like I said earlier anything we talk about past maybe turn 5 or 6 ish is pure speculation

[median epoch]

FYI, poll ended, and Atlas will carry you up to 25

(also I might have found you a 4th MBT)

[left thistle]

Eyyyy nice!

For both lol

[sleek cedar]

Down to abandon the idea of the southern mine, it was just a theory craft anyways. We do not have a massive amount of assaulting or staying power since we are half the size of the big BGs, hence why I was thinking that the southern town could also be something to look at because at the time I didn't know that Pathfinders was eyeing it.

I will say this is all assuming we can cross each of these intervening points (crossroads, Elim, the nod inbetween) without incident.

In all honesty, I think we just see how Elim goes and go from there. Plans vs first contact with the enemy shenanigans and whatnot

[eager lichen]

Pathfinders is also small.
A joint op would be best.

[old lark]

We're also slgihtly faster, so you don't actually need a decision until we diescout

[left thistle]

Yeah we’ve gotten more vehicles but are somehow still stuck at speed 1 lol

[left thistle]

That’s probably the best way to approach it atp since we know so little about what is going on

[sleek cedar]

All we know is they are currently in Elim really. Like they could have everything else heavily fortified and ready for invasion.

[solar bear]

We have more vehicles, but most of them are not transport vehicles...

[atomic basalt]

just double checking is the plan we're going to be one of the first BGs deployed planetside?

[median epoch]

You betcha

[solar bear]

Thanks to Atlas we are dropping T1...

[solar bear]

You guys are awesome btw...

[median epoch]

No you're awesome

Also, not sure exactly what turn, but not this Sunday.

[left thistle]

No you

[median epoch]

@sour flame This is the Battle Group I was talking about

You'll need to say hi, then fill out their sign up sheet on the pinned doc!

[left thistle]

I mean you don’t neeeeed to say hi, we just might be a little confused the next time we check the spread sheet

[sour flame]

Saying hi regardless

[median epoch]

Remember when I said I might find y'all a 4th Tank?

Well this guy is a LV!

-# jk jk, he's an MBT

[atomic basalt]

do we need plan on how we're dropping on like a tactical level?

also welcome fellow armor enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/daliaxez-war-thunder-tanks-tank-vibing-party-hard-gif-22787462

[left thistle]

Like yes, but also we can’t rly do much until the city map is fully revealed to us

[tawny flame]

Y'all have room for an Artillery?
My friend @atomic pulsar may be interested

[neat fossil]

Iron Hammer's always got room for more.

[median epoch]

They don't have a Logi-truck to pull it :/

[neat fossil]

I mean, Iron Hammer is the literally anyone BG. Also they're still pretty far from 2 speed.

[median epoch]

... I have been operating under the assumption that Artillery can't move at all.

They have Speed 1

They're like an Infantry unit with a heavy weapon

[left thistle]

Can they be picked up by hvtol? Bc we got one of those

[median epoch]

Rules say "Can move vehicles and heavy objects/large supply"

[eager lichen]

Yes, but usually you want to drag other things.

[median epoch]

I'd argue yes, don't see why not.
-# I'd say if it can lift your mom, it can lift Artillery. (I'm sorry)

[last monolith]

HVTOLs can just about lift anything...they just only lift 1 of that thing at a time.

[left thistle]

Ayo… I take back what I said about you being awesome 😂

[median epoch]

That's fair I guess.

[warped axle]

ANOTHER mbt? heeeell yeah

[sleek cedar]

If the LV joins we would still be 18FS away from in-house speed 2 because of the additional medic. So close but so far lol

Also if the Arty joins they would have the personal taxi of the HVTOL I think. Unless RAW implies they can't carry the crew only the gun.

[muted eagle]

That is exactly why I started off with "This is inconceivably stupid, but..."

[median epoch]

Sorry, not an LV. Just a joke.

He's an MBT

[sleek cedar]

Ah I see. Missed the JKs. So small lol

[muted eagle]

Who doesn't love a good gamble?

[median epoch]

Kobold! Sent you a present.

It was another tank

[muted eagle]

Ah, nice

And as for Cell'Dar mine, we could always ask one of the TFs to scan it and then we can decide if it's worth it

[muted eagle]

Damn, guess I'm too late to join in with the conversation 😅

[neat fossil]

About the ARMCOmon upgrade
Its so painful that my dictionary isn't the same as what SAM's is. I have to make a translation dictionary so I can automatically update the probabilities. It would've been so easy...

I forgot who came up with ARMCOmon...

[neat fossil]

So... I've heard y'all like gambling...
Well say hello to a new and improved ARMCOmon!
Now featuring:

• Actually readable code
• A text menu
• The ability to open multiple boxes in a row
• Text speed settings
• A gambling stats menu
• Saving stats and settings, including togglable autosaves!
• Automated probability updates! No need to plug in new values!

-# God this took me way too long

oh god, how are you already here?

[solar bear]

https://tenor.com/view/insomnia-cant-sleep-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16906483

[muted eagle]

A totally not gambling addiction

[solar bear]

You, my friend, need professional help...

[rapid pond]

French sadly is not professional help

[neat fossil]

who...?

[solar bear]

Vivian...

[neat fossil]

quick get French!

Or South I guess...

[rapid pond]

South is someone I’d recommend from their mutalett support programme… from Southpaw’s brother

God this story is so awkward at times when people name themselves after their own commander character

[solar bear]

HE IS NOT PROFESSINAL HELP... HE GONNA ENCOURAGE HER...

[rapid pond]

I think we may need to… sabotage the code

-# (In all reality I won’t) I do not intend to ruin your work, but could you maybe add a limiter?

[neat fossil]

on what? maximum gambles per session?

[rapid pond]

Yeah

Something like dat

[neat fossil]

uhhh, I could do that I guess...

[rapid pond]

Sorry for making you do more work

[neat fossil]

why...?

[neat fossil]

don't worry about it man.

[rapid pond]

Although it won’t fully stop gambling, but it’s mostly to try and limit people’s gambling addiction (even though they may be able to restart the code)

[neat fossil]

should I even put the gamble cap in the settings?

[rapid pond]

If ya don’t want to as it will probably be useless don’t

But, maybe just put a slight text somewhere what says, “please stop” after like 10 ig

I get it’s a funny lil game of yours

But… I feel like it’s becoming the favourite idle game here, where you just spam gamble

[neat fossil]

it would be funny

[rapid pond]

If it seems like too much work or whatever I don’t really mind if ya do nothing, as I am on mobile I haven’t used your ARMCOmon game

[neat fossil]

its actually pretty easy, it might take a lil to do though.

[muted eagle]

You think that'd work? I can program too :p

[rapid pond]

I ain’t an expert on coding, especially as I stopped coding ages ago… after some minor tweaking with stuff

[hazy radish]

That's the spirit!

[muted eagle]

Yeah, that's probably the best idea

[rapid pond]

I mean… Storm is trying to rush Elim (high orbit) I dunno if we can land, but Fluffle should be escorting us

[muted eagle]

I just had nothing better to do so I just started planning too far ahead

[hazy radish]

And welcome! Fourth MBT, my god, this is looking more and more like Iron Hammer from c3 !

(minus the 5 artilleries)

[hazy radish]

Ye! :)

Well, caught up on everything

looks at the graph

We're gonna want a second engi xF

xD

[neat fossil]

could I get some funny anti-gamble messages?

[hazy radish]

lol

Still crazy to think that with random luck without the engi trade we'd be as a coherent of a Battlegroup as the first time Iron Hammer was made

Insane stuff imo.

[muted eagle]

Now I can gamble more to even collect anti-gambling messages!

[neat fossil]

dang it, now I want to create an average gambles per session stat.

[hazy radish]

Gambling still going strong I see.

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[eager carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/casino-slots-old-people-gambling-lets-go-gambling-gif-9314212510954500524

[hazy radish]

I'll be at the gym and then maybe asleep idk

But don't hesitate to recruit a bit in meta comm, recruitment message thingy.

Mostly cuz we want a second engi I think, but hey we'd take anyone as usual

[hazy radish]

If you guys feel like doing it*

[neat fossil]

I just popped out ver 1.1 of ARMCOmon, added the number of gamble sessions and average gambles per session in stats. plus a few sneaky things.

[south ether]

morning seems like 212th made it whil is was asleep

[iron arrow]

aaand

atlas lost a drop pod so joining them woulf br impractical now

[hazy radish]

We still can or?...

Oh no you meant for odt

Shit.

[iron arrow]

yeah i meant for joining them permanently myself sorry for the confusing wording

[hazy radish]

yeye alr

[hazy radish]

#1385617845831995402 message

That's done ! :)

So, other then the GAMBLING

Do we know what we're doing after Elim, or that's a problem for us later ?

[eager carbon]

i think its a future us problem
first secure Elim i think

[hazy radish]

yep, problem for future us then

[muted eagle]

Go to crossroads and roll the dice to see where we go next look at the situation and then determine where to go

[hazy radish]

Fokken gambling addict 🤣

[neat fossil]

totally not addicted...
Its all testing. Trust.

[hazy radish]

Aaaah, gambling addiction before meta campaign start innit ?

[neat fossil]

y'know the sheer number of RHATs I got made me do a double take and double check the probabilities, but nope. I just got such ridiculous rng that I got 3 one in 500 RHATs.

[neat fossil]

great thing is that it saves (either manually or automatically) your settings and stats too.

[hazy radish]

oooooo

[neat fossil]

professionals* have standards
-# *says a man with 0 experience

[muted eagle]

I ain't addicted! I can quite any time I want! :p

I just don't want to quit

[hazy radish]

I like how we're 22 signed up, and yet, there are 48 people who joined this comms

Meaning more then half of the persons here are just here for the Iron Hammer shenanigans. 🤣

[old lark]

Shhhhh just spying for Commander Southpaw

[hazy radish]

Also we're gonna need a new slot for Medical Corps, since Tubsay is one !

[hazy radish]

Send him my UwUs and =w=

[hazy radish]

Indeed, just wondering then, are you switching over to 212th or keeping here there ? 🤔

[eager carbon]

[rigid oar]

Did you all finalize plans while I slept?

[hazy radish]

Did we ?

[eager carbon]

News to me

[hazy radish]

News to everyone.

Welcome in @odd lake and @fluid viper !

An engi to fix our problems, and a logi truck for supplies ! :D

WITH A REALLY FUCKING GOOD TEAKETTLE HELL YEAH.

[rigid oar]

I guess not. My vote is still the same. Move into Elmis and secure it. Anything else is a suicide plan without backup.

[hazy radish]

WAIT HOLY SHIT LOGI TRUCKS CAN CARRY 10 SMALL SUPPLIES

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

[odd lake]

Im just sad that the teakettle is an actual teakettle and not the MG-23-4 "Teakettle"AA gun

[hazy radish]

I'm sorry I just re-read the rules, I haven't read them for a while, fucking 10 ?!?

[iron arrow]

and two squads

[hazy radish]

or two squads*

[iron arrow]

we're so close to speed 2

awww

[hazy radish]

Ay, for next time when we get the 5 req !

[odd lake]

I had it in V3!

I stole it in the smash and grab op

[hazy radish]

Ooooohhhh

[odd lake]

well, "stole" is a strong word

[hazy radish]

Wait, so is it normal you didn't keep the unit then ? 🤔

You were the one who got the aa mounted on the logi yeah ?

[odd lake]

I Strategically Tranported it To an Alternate Location

[hazy radish]

That means you did partake in C3 tho if you don't mind putting that in the doc 👀

[odd lake]

t'was me alright

[hazy radish]

Damn, nice

What op were you in in C3 ?

[odd lake]

Crowthulu

[hazy radish]

Oooo

The arty ones left of blackout right ?

[odd lake]

yep

was running support for them

[hazy radish]

noice

Well, this time you'll be running support for uh...

looks at the sheet

...NOT, artillery.

[iron arrow]

If you get 1 more transport (and the logi takes 1 squad) i could go to Ajax so you can be speed 2

[odd lake]

everyone that needs something, somewhere

[iron arrow]

i think

[hazy radish]

I guess the "wait we can go speed 2 ?" sheet needs an update it seems

[iron arrow]

wait no 2 more transports

[fluid viper]

So what is my goal as an engineer in this Battle group? Am I repairing vehicles or am I helping build fortifications somewhere?

[hazy radish]

Also, @odd lake, since you seem to like gambling and you chose Iron Hammer thanks to that, we've got a little gambling tool... 👀
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BNv3JQkmhwlYPgaU1V0njkKR503SjSdSleJy27cpv_0/edit?tab=t.0 hehehe

[hazy radish]

Making sure our vehicles aren't broken and can get repaired indeed

Seeing how we're speed 1 and (normally) quickly in the fray, we won't be building defence so far I think.

We got 13 total mechanized vehicles (3 light mech, 4 mbt, 2 ifvs, 3 vtol, 1 hvtol), so you'll be very usefull I think

[iron arrow]

Oh god how bored did you guys get

[hazy radish]

...it's also why I wanted a second engineer, one would have trouble fixing 13 mechanized by himself, so 2 is perfect !

[muted eagle]

Very

[hazy radish]

TOO MUCH.

We've considered Icarus 2.0, done memes & gambling

[muted eagle]

You know, the more I consider going to Cell'Dar mine, the more I like that plan of going Elim and then Cell'Dar mine

[neat fossil]

I made it in like 3 days because I felt like it. I had to go from basically no knowledge of python to a beginner level.

[iron arrow]

What waiting a month to deploy does to an armco member

[neat fossil]

It was like 2 weeks. Most of that time we were trying to exist!

[muted eagle]

Then we started existing

And then we got bored

[neat fossil]

How all things are invented: so… I got a little bored

[muted eagle]

Hey @hazy radish, you reckon you can find another who can be the secondary TAC-COM? I'm considering moving to the 212th

[hazy radish]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-18054093961720321086

More seriously, they need a medic over there ?

I can probably find another tac-com, edited & darkhen were willing if no one stepped up but, it'd be happier if I found someone really willing.

[muted eagle]

Well, medics can always be useful, I assume they'll be moving between BGs a quite a bit to supply them, so I imagine it'd be helpful since it means there's some medic for the BG that they're getting supplies to

[hazy radish]

That's true.

You'll have switched through a lot of BGs lol

You're free if I can find a secondary tac-com first 🤣

Otherwise shack's gonna be on my arse.

[muted eagle]

Apparently I can be a backup even if we're not part of the same BG

[hazy radish]

...you can ?

[muted eagle]

That's what I was just told be AutoDave

[hazy radish]

oh

well I guess welcome to the 212th then ? 🤣

[muted eagle]

Yep

My name on this server shall become even more of a mess

Part of the 212th, but an iron hammers TAC-COM

[hazy radish]

Good luck with that xD

[iron arrow]

On another note, now if i go to ajax and you get 1 more transport or logi takes 2 squads you'll be speed two

[hazy radish]

ajax ?

wonder how you'll fit 5 infantry in this boy

More seriously, truuuueee but I'm not too bothered by us being speed 1 tbh.

The only downside is for strategic map, but tactically we got vtols that can go NYOOOOOOM if we need to get one thing from one place to 6 speed away 👀

[iron arrow]

Bruh i keep confuaing my and atlas's name today

[hazy radish]

Okay welcome back @muted eagle ????

Gambling wins ? 🤣

[muted eagle]

Gambling is the best way to make decisions

[neat fossil]

Gambling is eternal

[hazy radish]

Fuck me, we're the gambling bg at this point

[muted eagle]

I have turned the BG into gambling addicts

[mighty osprey]

Maybe it’s a good thing I’m leaving for 212th /j

[neat fossil]

Eventually I’ll learn pygame…

Gambling with a GUI.

[hazy radish]

"So, how did you learn python ?
-Gambling."

[muted eagle]

Literally actually one of my first programs I made in python

In my computer science class, my biggest project was blackjack

[hazy radish]

OH MY GOD.

WE ARE A GAMBLING BG. 🤣

[mighty osprey]

Well good luck and Godspeed guys, I’m off too the 212th

[muted eagle]

Good luck!

[hazy radish]

Ah, you are ?

[steady zephyr]

lol I think I can count my first interaction with Python also as Gambling 😂

[muted eagle]

Who knows, maybe we'll see each other

[hazy radish]

Edited nooooo 😭

[mighty osprey]

Since Vivian dropped out they still need a 15th

[hazy radish]

they do ?

[mighty osprey]

Yes

[hazy radish]

I thought they were official

fuck me.

[muted eagle]

Yeah, one of us needs to go for the 15th slot 😅

[mighty osprey]

No they’re only official with me or Vivian in it

[muted eagle]

Unless by some miracle they get one last person

[mighty osprey]

glares

[hazy radish]

I mean, there was adelbert who offered to go there to make it 15th

But no response from him and he doesn't seem to be 24/7 on the discord like we gremlins are

[mighty osprey]

Well someone’s gotta go

[hazy radish]

AND NOW I'VE GOT SAD FRENCH MUSIC FROM MY GRANDMA'S TV.

Don't you make me cry !

[muted eagle]

Poor French

[hazy radish]

but I understand, you can go there to the 212th

Man, you were the 3rd here

feelsbadman

[mighty osprey]

I know!!

[hazy radish]

But if you've gotta go you've gotta go.

[mighty osprey]

I’m not thrilled about it but I’m real worried about them not existing

[limber cargo]

Maybe we’ll see each other on the battlefield

[hazy radish]

Me too yeah

[muted eagle]

Indeed

[mighty osprey]

I hope so, I hope so

[hazy radish]

Don't you dare fucking die in the 212th !

[muted eagle]

Unless we drop on Cell'Dar mine with the help of Atlas after securing Elim

Then maybe we won't

[hazy radish]

I swear

[limber cargo]

By the way I’m about to run some errands so if you need orders from me, send me where I’m needed o7

[mighty osprey]

Me boss? Never

[hazy radish]

If we get airdropped on cell'dar mine I am renaming this BG Icarus 2: Electric Boogalo 🤣

[hazy radish]

You're good so far, campaign shall start, but we're not the first ones yet, and atlas has to declare that "hey, iron hammer is with us" right as they land so we can get deployed

so, you got a few more days give or take.

[limber cargo]

Ahhhh okay epic

[hazy radish]

You're epic !

[muted eagle]

-# Is this some sort of funeral procedure or something?

[hazy radish]

-# shut up and pay your respects ! 🤣

[iron arrow]

[atomic basalt]

[muted eagle]

-# But sir! She's still alive!

[hazy radish]

-# WE SALUTE FOR HER DEPARTURE

Added the Medical Corps

[muted eagle]

Yeah, don't go die! You gotta be with us for the next iteration of iron hammers

[hazy radish]

God, one can hope

Out of 30 people from the last Iron Hammer I only got 2 back for this campaign 😅

Mainly due to the battlegroup forming late, I'd agree, but even then there are most I don't see in the campaign again.

[muted eagle]

I'll make sure to be there sir

[hazy radish]

So, I hope even if you don't join Iron Hammer next time, for you to stick around for the next campaign.

[mighty osprey]

Depending on how things go next game i might be making my own Battlegroup, but if i aint, ill be here

[muted eagle]

And then me and french will join and we'll basically be the successors to Iron Hammer

[hazy radish]

Ay, I might wanna make "Flying Hammer" a thing for the next BG since i'll be a rugged air transport most likely but, I still need to figure it out tbh.

[mighty osprey]

If french makes a gunship my plan was basically Airmobile heavy firepower

[muted eagle]

I have the perfect BG, it's name would be: "Gambling Hammers"

[left thistle]

-# ain’t that what we are already?

[eager carbon]

Ya welcome
Wasn't planing on joining this one cause reaons amd then well you asked nicely and here i am.

[left thistle]

Also farewell edited

[hazy radish]

Hey, I'm just happy to see you again this campaign, even if you hadn't joined Iron Hammer i'd be happy

Talking of which, I've got a little ping reminder for a certain volverbot

[eager carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-disney-movie-persuasive-convincing-gif-21243702

[eager carbon]

Happy to be here

One of the reaons i wasn't gonna join it caise there was not iron hammer haha

[hazy radish]

Oh !

Well, here I am ! :D

Didn't think I'd have Iron Hammer fans 👉 👈

[mighty osprey]

yeah boss i think next time you need to open up a bit earlier

[hazy radish]

confirm

that is definitely something i've learned for next time

[left thistle]

Tho tbf the reason I joined was bc I was late and every other bg seemed established already

[hazy radish]

opening late (well, it was as early as i interested myself) for c3 worked cuz every BG was either full at 30, or didn't accept regular units only wanting specialized ones

[eager carbon]

Had.much fun last time

[hazy radish]

Now uh, we've got 60 limits and lots of bgs accepting everyone, so, yeah, that almost didn't work out 😅

[eager carbon]

Well long as iron hammer is around you will have my medics

[hazy radish]

Nice, good to know !

Might be doing "Flying Hammer" next time, but that's a problem for C6 me, not C5 me !

[eager carbon]

Hahah fair fair

For now
I must sleep once more

[hazy radish]

alright, good night

[south ether]

i am staying here iron hammer needs some organic vtol

[old lark]

You have an organic VTOL?!? Where can I buy that upgrade?

[solar bear]

kkkkkk

[south ether]

you first start with organic chickens ...

[solar bear]

@hazy radish Same for me... Dante and Nordwind will always favor Iron Hammer...

[muted eagle]

And ofcourse, my medics shall remain too

[old lark]

OOooooh, and then you add the choppers, got it thank you

[solar bear]

And if you do the RHAT next campaign I will probably make a Heavy Gunship or a Fighter...

[hazy radish]

You don't need to follow me x)

[muted eagle]

Yes we do :p

[solar bear]

I was already thinking of doing the gunship anyway...

[left thistle]

Yo a squad of ac-130s would be hilarious

[muted eagle]

The dice agrees that we should stick with French

[solar bear]

SOMEONE GETS IT

[solar bear]

Someone needs to make sure you have spare radios...

[hazy radish]

Ah...

True.

Thanks for the radio gift, btw

...i got only got radios.

[muted eagle]

I have given myself a far more appropriate callsign

[solar bear]

kkkkkkkk

[hazy radish]

Hahahaha

you were able to change it ? xD

[muted eagle]

Deactivating and reactivating my unit

[hazy radish]

ooo

neat

Oh.

Hey lookie what we got guys.

@atomic pulsar welcome !

Now uh, I've got a question lads uh, do we stop recruiting at 25 so we can get atlas transport or are we okay without and still recruiting ?

No because we're at 24 and I'm seeing 25 soon.

[muted eagle]

I think stop recruiting at 25, I reckon Elim will need our support

[hazy radish]

that seems fair to me tbh

[fierce dirge]

To be honest, we can still recruit more than 25, just not deploy everyone in the first battle

[hazy radish]

no, unit coherancy.

[muted eagle]

Yeah, atlas has to take all of us or none of us

[hazy radish]

if we get declared in the taskforce, everyone is in the taskforce.

[fierce dirge]

Ah, damn

[hazy radish]

we can't split, no BG nor TF can split.

that's why the taskforces couldn't take 50+ BG by splitting them 😅

So... we stopping at 25 then ?

[muted eagle]

I think so

[hazy radish]

To me it seems fair since they accomodated for us by bringing it up to 25 when we stepped out of 20, so we might aswell accomodate for them and stop at 25 and not go over AGAIN

[left thistle]

Yeah I think the atlas drop is pretty set in stone now, so we should cap it

[hazy radish]

confirm

[left thistle]

?

[hazy radish]

agree

like, pathfinders abandoned the idea of capping their BG at 20 incase we're too big, because we went up to 20 and atlas accomodated us. Sooo..

The only thing that's annoying me is if we get a bunch of people wanting to come in at the last hour, that'll suck because I want to accomodate everyone too.

But, there are a BUNCH of places to go tbh. Lots of BGs needs lots of stuff according to the stuff I see in #meta-comm.

[left thistle]

No for sure there will be a spot for ppl in the bigger bgs

[hazy radish]

Just, to confirm my thoughts

Quick & dirty context too:

Atlas has accomodated us, by allowing their transport to go from 20 to 25 peeps when we went overboard. Pathfinders has even removed their 20 people cap when they were sure Iron Hammer would get transported, and it seems pretty set in stone currently as we've been in for talks for a while.
Closing recruitments would also contrast against the idea of Iron Hammer, that being of welcoming everyone, BUT, Atlas has accomodated us, so should we accomodate for them aswell by capping ourselves to 25 ? + there are many BGs still looking for members as it seems.

There. I should have made it 1 hour long so, poll closing 1 hour from now or something.

[iron arrow]

Alternatively, you could go to 26 and i make the switch to atlas

[hazy radish]

Do they still got a drop pod for you tho ?

[iron arrow]

They got a new one yeah

[hazy radish]

AND IM NOT READY TO SEE AGAIN ONE OF THOSES WHO JOINED THE EARLIEST LEAVE PLEASE MY POOR HEART 😭

No I'm being a drama queen I'd be fine if you did leave

[iron arrow]

I know it's just an option

[hazy radish]

Don't wanna fcking emotional blackmail you, c'mon what are we.

[hazy radish]

Well, I don't LIKE IT. 🤣

[hazy radish]

Also uh...

Like, we basically have all that we need right ?

Exept for any kind of fixed wings asset, but that doesn't matter

PAI, but they're all gone

And Light vehicles are all in rabbit.

Huh. I guess we're good then.

[muted eagle]

Isn't it so beautiful?

[hazy radish]

Fuck me I had forgotten about that. 🤣

[hazy radish]

"6 votes"
Looks at us being 24

Uhhh... is that a majority ?

Does someone know how to count here ?

[muted eagle]

Lets see if the dice thinks it is

The dice says no

[hazy radish]

...callsign dice aye

Damn, well.

[warped axle]

if you guys do go to 26, it would be great if you could poach exactly one Pathfinder (sarcasm)

[median epoch]

You can always send your extra to us. We have lots of deployability, and will be following you around the battlefield often.

[hazy radish]

Y-You guys will ? :o

MAN ITS JUST LIKE C3 WHERE I WORKED WITH ATLAS

ITS HAPPENING AGAIN

@tired jewel LOOK, ITS HAPPENING AGAIN !

I swear, Atlas & Iron Hammer can never be dissociated, even in different campaigns.

Ol' C3 poster.

[old lark]

But we would totally totally consensually take one of your transports fr

[iron arrow]

I hadn't thought about it before but yeah history is repeating itself lmao

[hazy radish]

It is, it is.

Insane the coincidences.

[tired jewel]

They'll never keep us apart!

Even if I'm leading dwarves into mines this time

[sleek cedar]

7 total FS from 2 speed mobility I think

If logi doesnt carry supplies which probably isn't the best lol

[hazy radish]

yup, i'm good with 1 speed then i think lol

[hazy radish]

alright, is 8 a majority guys ?

(i still can't count)

[south ether]

that just means if we have 7fs less we could tactictly move witch speed 2 later on

[hazy radish]

true

but do we wanna have 7fs less ?

looks at our 3 medics

I don't think they'll allow it. 🤣

[south ether]

true

[muted eagle]

The dice says yes

[hazy radish]

perfect

seems we're all in agreement anyways

[fierce dirge]

We are so close to starting the game.
It would be a little silly to then get 26 and to lose the opportunity XD

[hazy radish]

Yeah x)

I've put this in.

[south ether]

i see on 2nd half of 2nd monitor

[hazy radish]

It'll get deleted once recruitments/sign-ups are officially over, but for now that'll be it

[left thistle]

No to majority? Or no to knowing how to count?

[muted eagle]

No to a 6 being majority

But it says yes to 8 being majority

[fierce dirge]

Vivian, are you perhaps in possession of a magic 8-ball?

[muted eagle]

No

I am just rolling my d20

[sleek cedar]

Just to be up to date did Sven say they were transferring to Atlas too? Or was that someone else who departed our great endeavor? Or was that an "in case of x" deal? The roster hasn't changed so I was curious and couldn't find the discussion in this thread and there were a lot of messages to read through this morning lol

[hazy radish]

wew, it was quite confusing

stretches arms

So, originally, adelbert (vtol) said they may be willing to switch over to 212th Logi if that makes them 15 yesterday.

Today, the 212th reached 14 members, and thus was pinged to see if he still wanted to transfer
Due to no response, Vivian (medic) decided to join in
...but due to LITERAL GAMBLING, came back in Iron Hammer

Then, Edited09 (light mech) gloriously stood up and joined 212th to make them complete
Adelbert would then say after that "yeah, i'm gonna keep with Iron Hammer"

That's what happend 😅

[sleek cedar]

Gotcha gotcha. Thanks!

[hazy radish]

Yeah, no problem