Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms

[chilly bridge]

Still very thankful for that.

I made it out alive thanks to him

[astral nymph]

You only had to taste test his latest Bug Burgers for that trip

[chilly bridge]

It was worth not dying. I was panicking for days because of that xD

[vale geode]

also… 3 days before all Hell breaks loose

https://tenor.com/view/malevelon-creek-automaton-helldivers-2-meme-willem-dafoe-gif-1480611461160762542

[silent glade]

that was indeed me, that campaign was a bit of a mess for me lol XD

[chilly bridge]

How so? xD

[silent glade]

i deployed, drove around a bit looking with my optics upgrade, mostly saw nothing. Flanked around to pick you up, could shoot nothing on the way out or back because it was all in melee, everything else in range was dead from arty or orbitals before we got close. Got you back to us which was good.
then when everyone moved a single tile forwards from where our line had been since the start.
4 of us were blown up by artillery on the same tile, completely out of range of any enemy to fire back on.
(which wasn't actually the tile i was supposed to be on, but apparently if id been where i was supposed to, they woulda just shot me there too, and also killed you coz it was where you were standing 😅 coz artillery were even more op and dealth dmg to everything in the same tile too)
so yeah a bit of a clusterfuck

[chilly bridge]

I actually didn't make it towards the frontline and survived^^°
So I'm guessing you were next to another sapper.

But, that sounds like a clusterfuck. Then again, arty was crazy strong.

[astral nymph]

Yeah, C2 was rough for ground folk 😦 and why the rules got totally reworked lol

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, C3 was way better in that regard. Still sad that i didn't manage to save the one arty Icarus lost in the north

[silent glade]

yeah i mostly just forget about that one coz it wasnt as good as the others XD
it was some sneaky engies whoever it was that i ended up dieing next to 😅

[chilly bridge]

Probably Alomga. They were the only Sapper down there with me and they died shortyl infront of the frontline or so

[astral nymph]

It was

[dreamy glade]

I mean maybe limiting the use of something like a kinetic projectile dropper could allow spaceships in orbit to affect ground combat more directly. And have like a min ship size for that.

Oh and give enemies orbital defense cannons so orbitals have something to shoot at.

[hybrid hazel]

Orbital Rail Strike: range in region. 3AP. 2d6. CS4. Contract weapon.

[dreamy glade]

And long reload time

[hybrid hazel]

Contract weapon so no reload. CS cost of 2 for rail reloader.

[dreamy glade]

Hmmm OK now what would you say about one round of travel time from orbit?

[hybrid hazel]

Lol just thinking since orbitals just “exist” in high orbit unless there is contacts it’s kinda hard to balance the range of a weapon like that unless orbitals did have placement before hand

[hybrid hazel]

One round charge time so you have to spend an action charging then an action firing it.

I ponder if we’ll ever actually get high orbit to ground weapons

There isn’t a way to refill atmos fuel right?

[dreamy glade]

I don't think so

Until they prob introduce something like orbital tankers or maybe gas refineries you can fly to

[hybrid hazel]

That’s unfortunate. I’d love to design a low orbit fire support vessel but the CS cost for just 1 round of extra fuel and if you can’t refill it kinda sucks

[dreamy glade]

Can you give fire support firm low orbit?

[silent glade]

When in atmosphere yes you can fire your guns at ground targets
In orbit off the map only at other orbitals up there too

[hybrid hazel]

Yeah. If you could somehow refill atmos fuel you could periodically dip down fire and then return up but we don’t have a way to refuel atmos fuel yet which is disappointing. So a dedicated low orbital weapon support platform is very limited.

[silent glade]

Indeed, but they would be very very stong if they could,
Youd just pop down somwhere safe, delete a target,
Go back up and move over to somwhere else safe to pop down and do it again,
Itd be very anoying to deal with when the enemy starts doing it to us xD

[hybrid hazel]

True lol. Though I could see refuelling being supply intensive so it’s not something that doesn’t come with a significant cost if it’s set up that way

[dreamy glade]

Oh and BTW I think you don't consume fuel for ascending and descending just for moving

Oh no I think that's just for landing

[hybrid hazel]

You consume fuel for every round you spend in low orbit

Last I checked the rules

[dreamy glade]

Ah ok so that's that

Landing and taking off doesn't consume any

What do you think about cruise missiles for bombers BTW?

[hybrid hazel]

They have cruise torpedoes for orbital combat

[dreamy glade]

So mechanically already there hmmm

[snow python]

yea, 9 kills in one turn. people were kinda pissed with me with that.

[astral nymph]

I mean it wasn't yooou, it was the rules at the time. It's just why we dont have that anymore (except on ships now. F them orbitals)

[chilly bridge]

Orbitals now are fine, aren't they? Though I'm sad that the orbital Maps were taken away

[wintry swan]

I really liked how in C2 as a fighter, if you positioned well and correctly predicted enemy intentions, you could intercept enemy aircraft for 3 kills in a turn

[chilly bridge]

Now you'll need a squadron to do that... And it works great as we've seen in C3

[snow python]

so since we're splitting into two BGs mechanically. are we gonna do a recruitment drive?

[queen tendon]

no

lets not contribute to the problem lmao

[dry wraith]

@proper plank Good to be on the field with you again mate!

[warm hazel]

Already started poking my buddies that said maybe but wanted to wait on joining

[warm hazel]

Jesus they just had art spawn in?

Did they have trucks to kill at least?

Also wooo 10k messages

[fallen whale]

How's BG Dwarven Merchants?

[queen tendon]

Hit the minimum so once shack is around it can be official

I would ideally like one of our faster vehicles just for a little extra protection, but thats about it

[warm hazel]

We are looking lovely for moving if the need arises

[snow python]

oh that was me who got the 9 kills.

[warm hazel]

So painful

[vivid vessel]

Evening dwarves

I have brought a friend

[polar comet]

Behold!

Me

[snow python]

oh? and what are they bringing to the fun?

[polar comet]

A light vehicle

[snow python]

i see, anthoer zoomy boi

[polar comet]

Yes

More speed, more shenanigans

[queen tendon]

welcome!

[polar comet]

Hi!

[queen tendon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1muZ6eUbGh9T1X2CKXfxRDQA4mMZOh2mHMVg0AuL7Xe8/edit?gid=2109992944#gid=2109992944

If you wouldn't mind adding yourself to this doc that would be great. Glad you are here

[polar comet]

Ooh very nice

[queen tendon]

if you got any questions let me know

[polar comet]

I think I figured it out

[rich olive]

@queen tendon It seems Shack is was in meta comm a minute ago if you want to try asking him about making the logi group.

[warm hazel]

Yay another lv!

[polar comet]

there is much chaos to do

[queen tendon]

I'm looking forward to it

[warm hazel]

LV in Logi feels like a great idea

[queen tendon]

I would love that, get our two LVs running defense for us

[warm hazel]

Would be amazing and the mech. Keep shots off the Logi trucks

[snow python]

is our Logi group gonna stay in this Channel?

[queen tendon]

ofc

[queen tendon]

we dont have any mechs anymore

[warm hazel]

No real point to split them as we plan on sticking together until absolutely necessary

Danget

[queen tendon]

on the logi side

[warm hazel]

Imma need to check what we have going on ground side to keep our trucks safe

[queen tendon]

2 inf, 2 engi

[warm hazel]

That, isn't sounding great.

No vehicles?

[queen tendon]

nope

[warm hazel]

Well that is very concerning, no real way to utilize the low target priority I am seeing

Huh still shows Nalla in the Logi team when I open the link

[warm hazel]

Weird, buddy has been telling me changes being made and it just doesn't update on my end for a day or two

[queen tendon]

interesting

[warm hazel]

Yeah has been strange. Mainly occurs on mobile

I'm sure if I was on PC I'd be seeing the lastest stuff

[queen tendon]

If any light mechs or light vehicles would like to run defense for the logi side in the case of a supply run, feel free to join up :)

[warm hazel]

Yeah it would be nice to have a few. We are sticking front line as long as possible and as long as we remain a fast BG we can resupply and return quick

[silent glade]

We are still one group,
Just mechanically allowed to resupply,
So i dont feel the need to recruit

[chilly bridge]

Nah, there are other BGs that need new people more than we do. I think, we are rather well equipped. Especially with out own Logi group, something that not every BG has

[silent glade]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[chilly bridge]

Btw get behind us receiving BG 10 for our Logi Corps xD

Lets ruin the meme!

[soft bloom]

What’s the meme?

https://tenor.com/view/what-year-gif-19616587

[warm hazel]

That BG 10 is a joke BG for being the super secret and hidden bg

[chilly bridge]

BG 10 being the next Hiking trip

[soft bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[chilly bridge]

I was sure, you did. Weren't you the pilot who dropped me off inititally in C2?

[queen tendon]

Spreading the word. We don’t have to worry about orders since we’re on the bus

@civic folio @sand whale @soft agate @modest pagoda

You guys are the last four to sign up for either the combat or logi groups. I am assuming the MBTs and artillery would like to go with combat and the truck would like to go with logi, but if I’m wrong let me know.

Also I’m putting out another call for faster vehicles to run defense for the logi runs if we need to leave the combat group. Just one or two of the skirmishers to buy us town while we GTFO, not trying to be in any extended fights

[soft agate]

I say sure. Im fine going with combat.

[queen tendon]

Makes sense, arty be good at shooting and bad at moving

[chilly bridge]

But, we have to worry for making the GM aware that we split into two BGs^;

[queen tendon]

I told him last night

He wrote the tac coms down

[chilly bridge]

Apparently he isn't aware of that

Because we have a BG4 Orders channel for Dwarf, but the BG10 order channel isn't named

[queen tendon]

He also didn’t do the same for storm blessed lmao

[chilly bridge]

Which reinforces my point

BG13 doesn't even have a channel for orders

[queen tendon]

I sent something

We actually didn’t have one at all at first

He skipped us

[wintry swan]

Ok so none of us need to submit orders this Sunday, right?

[queen tendon]

That is correct

[chilly bridge]

Damn! But hopefully it's going to get fixed

[queen tendon]

We’re gonna be showing up on round 3 guys

So that should be not this Sunday, but the next

[silent glade]

😅 probably a good thing overall, the way will have been cleared out for us (hopefully)
I did kindof expect us to turn up now and take 2 or 3 turns to fly to the starport tho, rather than only turning up at all in 3 turns

[warm hazel]

Bah gonna have to double down on my bribes

[chilly bridge]

@kind gyro could you rename this Thread into "Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchant: Comms" or so?^^

We could use sth like that

[queen tendon]

He’s stealing my format! I stole it from shack first

[kind gyro]

Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms

[queen tendon]

Thanks Dres ❤️

[silent glade]

Nice, im glad we have the same chat for both groups still

[chilly bridge]

Thanks Dres!

[queen tendon]

I’ll be real, if we got one I wouldn’t have used it lmao

[chilly bridge]

Fair enough xD

[chilly bridge]

But now you can call yourself DM TCO xD

[warm hazel]

I'd just start counting in there until we got to 10k

[fervent sage]

Uh oh we became two Battlegroups what’s that meaning for us who haven’t been paying attention?

[rich olive]

Nothing much just make sure you say which battlegroup you'd like to be apart of in the doc.

Hopefully it doesn't change anything it's just in case.

[queen tendon]

Basically just, if we need to resupply ourselves or rearm are fighters the logi group has the ability to leave the mine map and go do that. Hopefully not needed, but just in case

Says that you’re signed up for the combat side so in that case you’d be staying with the people at mine.

[fervent sage]

Gotcha, cheers Crazy

[queen tendon]

If you want to join the logi crew I won’t stop you lmao

But having VTOL for the front lines is also great

[delicate folio]

TF2 Atlas has picked up another Heavy Drop Pod, and has room for another Light Mech or two PAI. If you'd like to be on the front lines at Elim Spaceport, let me know!

-# not to poach, just providing an option

[civic folio]

Ope, my bad, I didnt see a ping about it. On the roster I assume?

[queen tendon]

Yup

[civic folio]

Put it in

[vivid vessel]

Afternoon dwarves

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/haikyuu-anime-gif-7480888

[warm hazel]

[polar comet]

wassup

[astral nymph]

But yeah, I swapped back to Combat once they were over 15... cause I have melee weapons, and I am one of 2 units with that, so It'll probably fall to me and Templar to support if anyone gets melee charged by bots.

[warm hazel]

We should still submit RP only orders

[warm hazel]

That and the hands are better for staying and helping build

It makes sense

[astral nymph]

I most definitely will be naming my cute android and her getting badgered by Captain Anati to double check she backed up her neural backups while Aura keeps trying to slide a bass boosted carameldansen or vega boys cd into her hands for a turn 1 RP post

[charred widget]

eyo why yall 4/10 now

what happened to BG10?

they get dolfed in?

[astral nymph]

WE ate them

[charred widget]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-kirby-anime-الطعام-gif-4848690

[queen tendon]

BG 10 fell apart a few days ago. I wanted the count to be accurate so we stole it lmao

[warm hazel]

Loading and unloading. Triple checking boxes. Making sure everything is perfect and accounted for. Just for the last day to have it all slammed in haphazardly before we take off

[astral nymph]

Exactly, shipping at its finest

[polar comet]

About that, we have a new logi vtol

[vivid vessel]

So, I have conjured another friend

[warm hazel]

Handle with care boxes crushed under this side up facing down boxes

[vivid vessel]

He wishes to ship boxes

[warm hazel]

Yay!

More Logi power

[vivid vessel]

@royal minnow

[royal minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-dwarf-beer-gif-8717233360444736110

I am the greenhorn logi VTOL in question

[charred widget]

d w a r f

[polar comet]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-drg-nonagon-nitra-lootbug-gif-24678517

[astral nymph]

Welcome, we will have plenty of infantry and boxes to move around the map. (^.^)

[royal minnow]

I wish to ship boxes directly behind the front lines and possibly get shot

[polar comet]

Hooray!

[royal minnow]

All in the name of Karl and the God-Emperor

To die is to serve

[polar comet]

For the Rock Emperor of dwarf-kind!

[warm hazel]

Welcome to the party fellow dwarf. I am a VTOL that doesn't take off

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-salute-hello-gif-22450364

We'll hopefully avoid the second part of that 😄

[vivid vessel]

Vertical Take Off and Landing

You are now vertical

[astral nymph]

pfffffffft thats a hilarious image

[queen tendon]

Don’t forget people! Shipping people is the second part of VTOL-ing since you get to carry both

[polar comet]

Vertical Take Off and Landing

[royal minnow]

Yes

[queen tendon]

With my rappelling ropes I’ve become Vertical Take Off and Landing

[royal minnow]

I get to boxes and people

[polar comet]

My expendable life is in your capable hands

[queen tendon]

If you wanna add yourself to the doc that would be great

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1muZ6eUbGh9T1X2CKXfxRDQA4mMZOh2mHMVg0AuL7Xe8/edit?usp=drivesdk

[royal minnow]

I assume the base VTOL can only carry infantry at first as far as units go, right?

[polar comet]

behold, the diagrams

[vivid vessel]

The all knowing spreadsheet

[queen tendon]

Anything with FS. So any type of infantry unit. Base infantry, engineers, medics, even the powered armor guys we have.

If you want to move vehicles you have to spend req (which we get from completing these campaigns) on a HVTOL refit which costs only one I think

We are now up to 181 supplies lmao

This is insane

[astral nymph]

We'll probably need them. Our engineers are going to be very busy if this turns into a slog fight (predicted too)

[royal minnow]

So Logi max transport capacity is not in unit type, but FS?

Oh wait

Yeah, so it's as I thought

Ok

Any infantry unless refit

[queen tendon]

If it’s referring to infantry it will always so “can carry x FS”. Like for VTOL, it’s 6 FS so a full infantry squad. But for a light vehicle it’s 4 FS, so only a smaller squad

[astral nymph]

Correct, although if your using say
2 light vehicles to transport 1 infantry (8 slots, 6 infantry for a 4/2 split)
Your LOCKING those two light vehiclesi nto moving together (unless one dies)

Also I would say you can't cheese the system, IE moving 6 light vehicles and 1 infantry with 1 dude in each light vehicle so that if 1 gets hit, its only 1 fs loss.

[queen tendon]

FS is exclusively used for infantry types

[royal minnow]

Gotcha

[warm hazel]

God we are gonna be a nightmare of a bg

[astral nymph]

No, just that we have a lot of staying power comparated ot the others and the side ot push if need be (or be a PAIN IN THE ASS to dislodge.)

Unless they have massive air superority, then we just die

[cosmic canyon]

Am I guessing correctly that logi coordination is going to be in the old BG10 comms?

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-anime-smile-gif-cute-gif-23970250

[astral nymph]

hmmmm... for turn orders and stuff yeah. I'd still like of us to be chatting in one spot until we split off, but whatever the logistics folks wanna do.

[royal minnow]

Aight

[queen tendon]

Well just be talking in here, we’re all one big happy family

[royal minnow]

I have hardly any idea what’s happening, I just got here, so I’m gonna just nod and walk where I’m told

[cosmic canyon]

All right.

[astral nymph]

TLDR We can't split the group up after we land. And on the strategic level map, we ALL have to move together. So if we say... 10 turns into the game found ourselves with no supply left, and no way to get some delivered to us (Which the game is very low on players able to arrange that), we want to be able to go and get supplies ourselves without having to abandon the position or push entirely. Currently chatted about logistics split allows us to send a logistics team (and some defenders), a total of 15 players or so, to go and fetch us more supplies.

Ideally, it wont ever be needed or used. BUT if we run dry and we do not have an airfield on map or a task force dropping on us to delivery supplies, we have the option to get more.

[queen tendon]

Our plan in general as a big large scale thing is to defend the sector described in #campaign-briefing-room

Our group in particular has chosen the objective “take Hill Mine and hold it” because the bots were fighting are likely going to try to take it to produce more bots

[royal minnow]

Gotcha

[astral nymph]

Yeah, Bots invade planets, take resource rich areas, and then use those to produce new bots to take over the whole planet (according to base info in briefing room, which may not be super accurate). So going off of that, we decided to take the north Hill Mine and enforce it/adapt as needed from there.

We do know, as of the start of the game, there are some civilians or local forces hauled up inside the mine. So we may be releiving them or rescuing them, or avenging them. 😄

[fervent sage]

The intention is to be on the front!

Happy to die with you all

[warm hazel]

The AA upgrade looking better every day as a Logi

[astral nymph]

If I could have refunded this mech, it would have been a Rugged HAT or a SPAA on a tank chasis

[warm hazel]

God yeah. Can you reload the upgrades with supply as they have ammo 1?

[astral nymph]

Yeah, you reload the ones with Ammo x with supply.

The limited weapons (LRMs and I think the extra AA missiles on fighters) come in a box and you only get that number per campaign, no small supply restore.

I'm not sure if they are registered for the campaign, but we do have a 1 remaining HellBomb from Campaign 1 on a bomber which hasn't been used yet. I forget the damage on that, but it was basically a 'fuck this hex in particular' bomb.

[chilly bridge]

We also have 1 Hoverboat or whatever it's called from C3 xD

[silent glade]

I wanna see just what kind of fortress we can build ourselves, hopefully it will be glorious

[queen tendon]

If we hadn’t split we’d be the largest BG

I think

[astral nymph]

Probably, 60s the max max cap though, so we would be 3 away from it

Considering we close tomorrow, this is PROBABLY it

[queen tendon]

Venator is down to 56 so they were the largest

[astral nymph]

Tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAL1Pj5cpvo&ab_channel=GODNIYMOMENT

[royal minnow]

All the vehicles and close air units blasting this on the speakers

[silent glade]

We certainly could have been, especialy if we kept recruiting over both the groups xD

[royal minnow]

Exquisite

[queen tendon]

No need to. We got all the people we need :)

Genuinely might be the best set up bg

[astral nymph]

Echoing that, we are an exceedinly well put together ground pounding task force.

[silent glade]

Indeed, we have everything we need,
Except perhaps an airfield building engie

[queen tendon]

the airfield building engie*

Lmao

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/one-highlander-kurgan-chop-goodbye-gif-10680493

[chilly bridge]

Don't we have a Temp Airfield building engie? xD

[astral nymph]

Yeah, but we do not have any Rugged Hats registered in ARMCO right now

[silent glade]

Imagine, if there could only ever be 1 😅

[astral nymph]

so it's totally useless to build.

[chilly bridge]

Ah god damn xD

Anyways, we are pretty well build up for a possible stand-alone

[royal minnow]

This is why I went with a VTOL

[silent glade]

We could land our vtols on it as consolation for how unfortunately unusable it is

[chilly bridge]

Every other Bg seems to heavily focus on one thing

[queen tendon]

I think C6 will have a lot more smaller niche groups that will work together

[chilly bridge]

Probably, yeah. We'll see

[astral nymph]

I hope so, were just severely limited by the lack of Req points for most. Hopefully this campaign fixes that.

I think the general goal would be, lots of size 20 or so groups

[silent glade]

There will always be the urge for some to create the biggest baddest battlegroup

[chilly bridge]

I will build either a Cruiser or a Frigate though.... And name it "The Oil".... Maybe it will grab the attention of some americans

[silent glade]

That genius,
Its both boats, and oil

Also guns

[chilly bridge]

Well, I'm hoping for Drop pods and fire support

[queen tendon]

You guys didn’t hear this, because I’m not sure I’m doing it.

But I’m thinking about potentially having ATC return in the next campaign in the form of a carrier that’s solely designed for assisting BGs via sorties

[chilly bridge]

Also, it would be bad to sink it. Would lead to Oil leaks xD

[chilly bridge]

Doesn't sound bad tbh

[silent glade]

Sounds very useful tbh

[silent glade]

You should paint eagles on the sides and only ever play freebird over the comms too 🦅

[chilly bridge]

Maybe I will do that. Just to retain my crew of americans. I shouldn't mention that I'm not american, I guess

[silent glade]

I dont think they would believe anyone could fly that thing and not be american

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[civic folio]

So just to be clear, WE arent putting in orders this week, right?

[astral nymph]

I expect we'll get more official instructions tomorrow, but I believe this week's turns will be of us prepping for landing... so roleplay on ships in transit pretty much.

Since were taking the neutral transports. we can't... do much of anything till the first spearhead on TaskForce or VTOL/HATs take the spaceport in Elim.

INB4 that one frigate over ELim rolls nothing but straight 6s to all of our 1s and we get wiped before hitting the ground.

[chilly bridge]

Well.... Since it's going to be my ship, they will have to live with a german being the captain! xD

[queen tendon]

We can tell the others to hurry up and do better

[warm hazel]

Even if someone started engineer they wouldn't have enough rec from this war to get airfield

[sand whale]

Yup. (Was asleep)

[knotty bramble]

Well thank you that you find this a good idea!

[queen tendon]

Thief

[knotty bramble]

Should have been faster sending sth 😉

(Honestly just wanted to clear the emoji stuff up bc every campaign someone asks)

[modest pagoda]

Gah

[queen tendon]

gah?

[modest pagoda]

Gahhh

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-6291937884935153335

I had a ping and now i cant find it

Yikes

[queen tendon]

It was me asking about if you wanted to be logi or combat

[modest pagoda]

Oh

I'll be running logi

[warm hazel]

Darn. Sad neither of the light vehicles are in the logi

Really hoping something is coming along the ground with the trucks at all

[royal minnow]

All the LVs wanna do the shooting

[warm hazel]

Awh hell on a side note is base power armored infantry maxed at 3 damage because fs is 3?

Just off the top of anyone's head

[queen tendon]

correct

[fallen whale]

Shalom from The Storm Blessed⚡ and Tremor🌋!
Been quite focused on Operation "Free the Starport". What are y'all about?

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/koseki-hololive-bijou-gif-18152739690422499641

[astral nymph]

Were taking the north road and focusing on Hill Mine where we will liberate the mine, rescue or avenge the local forces and populace wholed up in it, and then adapt from there. Idealy advanced to H-H and then the town with another supporting bg or, as is seeming increasingly likely. Make the Maginot line and hold till relief comes (I.E. reinfrcing federation fleet or whatever our win condition is this time)

[fallen whale]

Sounds great!
Trying to get an understanding of the "middle BGs" (4 through 10)

[astral nymph]

Yeah I'm not super up on what everyones plans are. We're taking the Hill Mine and then adapting as needed from there. Either pushing or digging in or reinforcing elsewhere. shrug

[royal minnow]

This is our first objective?

[astral nymph]

I unno, but thats what were making once we have it

😄

Only to have the south fail and negate it entirely

[warm hazel]

First objective is land in the city without dying

[royal minnow]

I gotchu

[snow python]

Should probably say this again. DONT FORGET TO ACTIVATE YOUR UNIT. deadline is less than 24 hours.

[terse merlin]

How do we verify if we have or not?

[royal minnow]

Should be in #campaign-statistics

Look for your company name, and in there it should say "ACTIVE in Lumara System"

[silent glade]

You could also type
/company show

[onyx forge]

I would to use rabbit to encircle the enemy around the east side of the planet and force them into this wall of guns that ya'll are planning to make lol

[minor solar]

G'day lads, how you doing?

[modest pagoda]

Ello

[vivid vessel]

Morning dwarves

[silent glade]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-hello-there-hey-hi-gif-20169852

[chilly bridge]

Everyone, if you haven't activated your unit, do it now!

[polar comet]

Mornin

[queen tendon]

Morning everyone

[dim vortex]

Isn't activation part of the ordinary process?

[queen tendon]

Yes but some people might have skipped the making a unit step and immediately started by trying to join a bg

If you’re at all curious just put /company show [your name] and look for “(Active)” next to your unit

[dim vortex]

Terrified of the implication that all other VTOLs just tell you to jump out

[proper plank]

I wonder how the first week will go... Will we be just chillin' until the space forces get to the planet..?

[queen tendon]

Essentially, yeah

We’re just chilling on the bus. We should get there next week, so next Sunday is our first turn

Also I’m not gonna be at my computer almost all day, so ping me if you need me

[dreamy glade]

You don't have ot join a bg through the bot right

Or how is that handled?

[queen tendon]

By joining is done completely through discord

[night quarry]

Oh boy

Are we missing any other unit that may be needed for our BG?

[valid pecan]

QB checking in.

[royal minnow]

The parachute is optional, but we don't have enough to go around

So you'll have to buddy up

[humble canopy]

hello

how exactly did you split?

[wintry swan]

It's in our sheet (pinned)

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-tank-tank-a-team-mg-panzer-gif-21368468

Me on my way to the surface

[jovial crypt]

Guys this is my first, I tried to follow your discussions in these days but I'm still unsure on what we are going to face on monday, we are being dropped on Emil city right?

[warm hazel]

We are all dropping into the city and figuring stuff out from there. I know we have a bit of spam

[jovial crypt]

nono dont worry, love to see you have fun, would love to join you in all your discussions, sadly I still miss most of what you are talking about ahah

Are we being dropped in an active zone, right? Are we being Parachute-dropped?

[royal minnow]

We got a lot of VTOLs, so I imagine we’ll land you guys

[jovial crypt]

ok thank god ahah

[royal minnow]

Of course, if you wanna be cool and jump out like Captain America, then be my guest

[warm hazel]

Bahah yeah the HATs will hold cargo for dumping into trucks

[jovial crypt]

would love to, but I'm the soldiers being killed on the background for dramatic effect

[warm hazel]

VTOLs would be better for troops

[royal minnow]

I’m new to ArmCo as well, so I’m a logi who doesn’t know what I’m doing

I’m gonna just crank Fortunate Son up on the intercom and give a six-man bus tour of Valhalla

[lime hamlet]

Hey lads. This is also my first. As an IFV. how do I organize the transportation of infantry and what not?

[hybrid hazel]

I think that happens during the actual game once we got boots on the ground

[warm hazel]

I too am new. I wanted AC more than new boots as infantry so I went Logi.

[valid pecan]

Do you guys have a preferred order template or is the basic one good?

[warm hazel]

For us we can strip everything but RP out ahahah

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, once we're on a tactical Map, we can plan stuff like that. Until then, we're moving as BG. So if you have an idea for what to do or stuff like that, the discussion will happen here^^

[valid pecan]

Googles what otters eat. Then googles how to cook seafood on the barrel of a cannon

[chilly bridge]

XD

[royal minnow]

I see the Lumarans will be getting the full suite of BG 4's hospitality

😆

[warm hazel]

Luckily with the split we can evac them

Or

Under new mining management

[rigid jacinth]

We are not monsters, we explain to them that outside is going to turn into a fire hellscape, and that staying in the mines is a good idea... but we won't force them to stay.

[royal minnow]

...And if they wanna help the war effort by getting back to work, that'd be much obliged

[warm hazel]

I am sure they can dig their way to the city

[warm hazel]

Shall we figure out who is riding with who?

[civic folio]

Got AC in my tank, baby also rides like one of them ancient Cad-Dee-Lacks I've heard about.

[royal minnow]

Dang, I think I heard about one of them Cad-e-lacks

Heavy and smooth, right? Must’ve been a great line of ancient tanks

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-whip-gif-20372828

[warm hazel]

Bahah how it sounds

[astral nymph]

We should start figuring this out once Axx and Swenfield get back later today, yes

Since we are definitely splitting, i'm deleting that column and remaking those two columns

[royal minnow]

A logi column and combat column?

Also, we gotta have all the vehicles on approach start blasting Rock and Stone by Wind Rose on the PAs

Shake the mountain so hard it collapses a couple of their defensive holes

It’s a necessary and strategic psychological warfare strike

[astral nymph]

The logi and Combat column is for the BG split. I.E.

It'll matter where you post your turns, but we are otherwise working together the full time. It exists so we have the option to grab supplies if we need it without abandoning a position.

[warm hazel]

Glad to hear. Might end up making a table myself with each of the vehicles and their capacity to have people list where they wanna sit

[astral nymph]

I'm adding in a loading and cargo column, so I guess we can start figuing out seats. Ican't sit still, too used to being primary taccom lol

[warm hazel]

Oh fantastic. Sitting outside right now so that saves some effort to get up

Me either I am too antsy for this all to kick off

Even on death there is enough req to buy a new unit and a refit

[snow python]

I DONT WANT TO GO TO WAR TODAY! BUT THE DARK LORD(Shack) SAYS NAY! NAY! NAY!

[silent glade]

I exist, watching american horror story with the wife but ill be checking chat xD

[warm hazel]

So far looking like we are placing as much infantry in our VTOLs and Engi and medics are for the light vehicles/IFVs?

Hrm

Split between the VTOL and IFVs we can carry all regular infantry

[astral nymph]

Axx had it all in their lovely head. I stopped paying so much attention when I gave up primary TacCom lol

[warm hazel]

Yeah after infantry we have 30 force of PAI/Medic/engineers

To fit in the Logi trucks, would be best to not paradrop our units and instead use the hats to air drop into the unit carrying Logis after they deploy units

[silent glade]

I belive not many specifics were decided,
He just worked out we could all fit and have x supply,
Who sits in who is realy up to those players

[astral nymph]

Yep and i'm editing the sheet to decide that

so people can just... writei n or record. We have time sicne we are not deploying turn 1, but we need to have it set over the next few days

[warm hazel]

Yep there was the sheet for how much supply we can theoretically carry if we all walk

[silent glade]

Indeed yes, please everyone organise themselves it makes it easy xD

[warm hazel]

And that still might be the best idea

As the only real place we are going is 1 tile away

I could imagine we keep the IFVs VTOLs and light vehicles filled with infantry and special units for the sake of moving them on a tac map

But the rest I could easy imagine as walking

To save supply storage

[silent glade]

Only issue is if we have to travel on a combat map, that would be real slow to go speed 1

[warm hazel]

I know but our goal is 1 tile away

We will spend supply after that and have room to carry units

And I believe we can always dump light supply

[astral nymph]

Sheet should be all set up to fill in whos carrying who and supply trackers, as well as turn in tracker

which I guess we can remove, or we can set it up as its own sheet over the corse of the thing but I'm not primary taccom.

Between Engineers and Arty, we have a base supply of 32. Counter for that is up and tracking

I've left a couple of slots open on the sheet since signups have not ended yet, off chance we get some buzzer beaters. I'll remove them once signups close this evening

[modest pagoda]

Ello dwarves

Whats up

[astral nymph]

Ello Isserry, going well. Starting to organizing seating arrangements and updated the google sheets to allow people to display if they are loaded and inside whome + supply counter

[modest pagoda]

Oh awesomeness

Imma have to start loading up on people then fr

[astral nymph]

Yep, feel free too. admittedly work with the person your suggesting to load up. No kidnapping the infantry kids.

[warm hazel]

Is it fine for regular players to set stuff up for helping out?

[astral nymph]

Feel free too, everyone has edit privs on that doc, just don't abuse it

I am all for making it better/prettier/ etc etc

[warm hazel]

Fantastic to see, and I have no plans to

[modest pagoda]

If course

Speaking off-)

[warm hazel]

Brother is coming over for his birthday, will likely check out making something pretty after that

[dreamy glade]

So the HATS all take cargo no paradrops at all? Unless...someone really wants to?

[modest pagoda]

I should see which arty wants transport

[warm hazel]

Unless people wanna. I think it would be best to use em for that sweet cargo drop feature

[astral nymph]

Theres and the infantry's choic. If you wanna paradrop folks when we get into the tactical map. You absolutely can.

[warm hazel]

Para dropping may put them at risk as I doubt bots will wait for them to land.

[honest quail]

Do we have to re-activate units?

[modest pagoda]

No

[warm hazel]

No reactivation but always good to double check it is active

[modest pagoda]

Its a message to make sure we had them activated

[astral nymph]

I checked red, no. It was just a reminder to make sure your active before singups close tonight. Double check yourself.

[warm hazel]

Buddy found he didn't active his

[modest pagoda]

Imagine

I already double checked so im gucci lmao

[honest quail]

im all good

[astral nymph]

First time were using the discord bot for this, last time it was patreon and some sign up site.

[warm hazel]

He was asleep. Walked up to his PC to active it for him. Bot errored out every time for him last night and today

Had to dm the bot directly

It gets around the issue

[honest quail]

Any new intel we can use for us or is it just the stuff we already knew from Aurora telling their BG early.

[warm hazel]

We will deff get info after turn one

[honest quail]

Figures.

[warm hazel]

We take action around turn 4 or 5 I believe

From what I saw on storms plan

[astral nymph]

Nothing till tomorrow or Monday I think

[warm hazel]

Yep

They got to secure us a lane for the star port

And during that they are feeding us info

[astral nymph]

I wouldn't trust Storms tracker on that. 5 seems awfully long/ I'm willing to bet it's turn 3. So we gotta about a week or so

[warm hazel]

So we will have plenty to go off of

[warm hazel]

I have faith it will be earlier.

[astral nymph]

Waiting 2 weeks to play is a good opportunity to lose 30% of the players lol (Which it is what it is, I don't mind, but i know some will)

[warm hazel]

YEP

[honest quail]

It'd be nice if they gave a date as to when we'd (roughly) get planetside, so new players will know

might help with retention

[warm hazel]

Sadly I think we need to wait until after turn 1 to have an idea

[modest pagoda]

What even is the bot?

[warm hazel]

SAM

[modest pagoda]

Ik

But like is it Armco made?

[dreamy glade]

I think so yeah

[modest pagoda]

Ohhh cool

[astral nymph]

Yeah, Cheese made it. It's a Meta Campaign ARMCO specific bot for managing this clusterfuck mess game

[valid pecan]

So.. idk if it's been said yet, we have passed 10k in this thread.

First to 10k achievement.

[royal minnow]

For any infantry unit in here, whoever wants to ride with me gets a complimentary round of beer, chicken wings, and music for the flight

I got a capacity of 6, so it’s first come first serve

[steady island]

i want down on to the planet but i am light mech

[cosmic canyon]

Can you hitch a ride on some orbital?

*Freighter

[steady island]

it would require the orbi to have either heavy drop pods or a mech bay to deploy me but yes in theory i can hitch a ride instead of waiting for npc freighters to land us all

[cosmic canyon]

They'll get you down eventually

As they will all of us. Lets just hope there's no anti-orbital weapons. That could be problematic.

[astral nymph]

Unfortunately ,we do not have an orbital attachment, nor are we loaded into a task force soooooooooo ALAS, we are hitching a ride on NPC transports so, no drop pods. 😦

Mechs caaaaan technically be loaded onto a truckbed or a HAT, but I'd recommend just walking as your faster then the truck and the hat wouldn't be able to drop you off without an airfeild, and we do not know if one exists where were going.

[astral nymph]

Commander Nia Nettle

Mech: CUTE - Xanthos Model Light Mech - A lightly armored 'small' mech frame which forgoes shoulder weapons mounts for a heavy hydrolic lift arms. While this adds to cost and more frequent repair due to the complicated arms, it allows for an easier integration with human pilots, and allows the mech to assist in search, rescue, and heavy lift operations. Equipped with a standard laser rifle, pulling energy from a Pegasus Class E fusion Reactor, and a tungsten mech knife.

Nia Nettle is a combat android and a crew member of Pegasus Works Bucephalus support cruiser stationed with ARMCO. Nia carries herself with an overtly serious and quite demeaner that can seem as 'cold' to most folks first meeting her. Though her roomate Aura will openly state that this is just a front and Nia is in reality far more cute and adorable then even herself, she just hides it really well under a stiff persona.

Having never engaged in actual real combat before, the ARMCO defense of Lumara will be her first combat sortie. Nia is a little worried about the deployment, not because she thinks she will perform badly, but she is worried that her partners on the field, and especially those who we are supporting, will be suspicious and aggressive towards her because she is not an android and they are fighting a robotic force.

[warm hazel]

Alright all done. Time to work on a sheet

[vale geode]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-cosplay-crusaders-dance-gif-4897729

Templar rn as they get cat herded onto a civilians transport

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-senshi-chilchuck-laios-touden-gif-3595963133605081524

Prepping our launch cake

[steady island]

fear not dwarves they’re just bugs that look like gold and jewelry. don’t feel bad.

an they taste just like candy

no treasure, stone, or rock was hurt

[astral nymph]

Courtesy of the lovely and amazing Sierra. Its a liiittle out of date for BGs and counts, but the intel is all there.

ALSO DONT FORGET TO CHAT AND LOAD UP FOR COMBAT. Need to know whos with who, off chance we all die on the ground somehow so we know who makes it off the beach. 😄

[modest pagoda]

Why cake

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-eating-dinner-burger-granat-gif-11095004224554308636

[warm hazel]

Alright

[modest pagoda]

Im not sure if it was this one

[warm hazel]

Just finished a loading order page

Let me know what y'all think and if that helps at all

[modest pagoda]

First off

Any arty that requires A lifr?

Lift?

That'll probably be my first goal

[warm hazel]

Ah dammit

I should put in a tow list

There we go

[modest pagoda]

Haha fair

Though it won't let me interact with the Sheer

Sheet

[warm hazel]

Huh, strange. As in you can't type edit or do nuffin'?

[modest pagoda]

Nope

Lemme try smth

[warm hazel]

Is that only for the load order or for the roster table as well?

[modest pagoda]

Its for everything rn

One sec

[astral nymph]

Tow list is already on the front page, so just work with the logi truck folks to know whos carrying who and write it down on the page

[modest pagoda]

I think i know th issue

[warm hazel]

Ah

[modest pagoda]

Apparently when using my phone i actually need the app installed

Which is extremely inconvenient

[warm hazel]

Then I shouldn't have fiddled around with the sheets if they were doing that. Didn't see the things on phone

[astral nymph]

??? Chrono?

Just let us know Issery, we can move stuff around as needed. Google Sheets doesnt like phones very much

[modest pagoda]

I got it

I just need the app

It works now

Nothing on your end chrono

Just google being goofy asf

[warm hazel]

Glad to hear, and yeah didn't know you were on mobile

[modest pagoda]

I have both but im not at my pc tn

Rn*

[warm hazel]

Was fiddling around with a way to make a presentable and easy to read thing for people loading stuff into their cargo seperate from the main sheet was all.

[modest pagoda]

But yeah I've loaded up on 10 supplies

[astral nymph]

of course, go for it.

[modest pagoda]

I was planning on hanging back with arty until needed mostly

[warm hazel]

Already did

Added it as a new page

[modest pagoda]

Just keeping them well supplied

[astral nymph]

I added that on the front page so it counts into our supply tracker I Omade

[warm hazel]

Was waiting to see some of the other cargo carrying players get a look at it

And if they have any changes

[astral nymph]

We can change until we launch... at that point were locked in

[modest pagoda]

Welp thats my setup

7 minutes until the 22nd

[astral nymph]

lolol Seems like you do not care which arty loads in with you, so I guess any arty, feel free to write your name next to Issery

[modest pagoda]

Yee

Im just trying to transport people haha

And supplies

[warm hazel]

I am free to take any arty player as well. Any player is free to write their name beside mine in TOW

[modest pagoda]

If we're allowed we'll become a truck gunner lmao

We'll drive around full of supplies with an arty at the back, and just act like a railway gun lol

https://tenor.com/view/rail-gun-cannon-railway-gif-13521431

[warm hazel]

We may auto assign some if people don't put their name in by deploy time

[warm hazel]

One day we will get map over range arty

[valid pecan]

Is arty starting towed or are we walking?

[modest pagoda]

Walking

Unless you go with someone

[warm hazel]

Far better to get towed, just poke any of the trucks

[modest pagoda]

Ye

[warm hazel]

We have just enough to tow all our arty

[modest pagoda]

Towed makes you quite speedy

[astral nymph]

Arty can be towed in by logistics trucks, but ya'll have to specify who AND you had better be, cause we have 6 trucks and 6 arty sooo.

[warm hazel]

And we can deploy you

[astral nymph]

Hitch up

[modest pagoda]

Yep

I offer a range of commodities personally

[astral nymph]

We're up to 52 starting supply (currently)

[warm hazel]

Can't wait to spam reload unit order

[valid pecan]

Sounds good. I got plenty of roadtrip snacks too.

[modest pagoda]

We have

LEDS
Shamrock ale
Rocks and stones
Pickaxes and More pickaxes
Amazing rock music (our best song will be diggy diggy hole or fortunate son)

[warm hazel]

I am thinking of drawing up my truck and how the 3 dwarf crew looks

Might include a lil nap bed in the back. Just big enough for one to nap as two take up the front seats

[modest pagoda]

We also have goblins to eat

[astral nymph]

My order last campaign every round was
Take off from x airfield
Fly Z distance
Land at Orbital
Load supply

Take off from Orbital
Fly z distance
Land at x Airfield
Unload supply.

[warm hazel]

Goblin Snacker rather than Goblin Slayer

[modest pagoda]

Delicacy amongst dwarves

[astral nymph]

Repeat until we evacuate everyone to space.

[modest pagoda]

Fair enough lmao

[warm hazel]

Bahah

Hey its pay

[modest pagoda]

Fr

[warm hazel]

Besides I am a support main through and through. Main joy I get is from helping others out

[modest pagoda]

So how much can we do in one order?

[warm hazel]

I believe it is speed limited

.5

[modest pagoda]

I see

[warm hazel]

Read up before we start

that is my plan

[valid pecan]

So if i did it right i'm hitched up.

[modest pagoda]

Thats fair

[astral nymph]

Its okay, I hot dropped over an enemy military base and airfield turn 1 so, could have gotten shot down.

You have an action are limited by your speed... Speed = how many hexes you can do. Some actions cost x amount of speed.
If you have a gun, you can fire once, this does not cost any speed.

[warm hazel]

Should be a-ok! There is another table for things to be a bit easier to read if you wanna fill it in there too

[modest pagoda]

Pog

[valid pecan]

Did both just now

[warm hazel]

Lets gooo, one arty acounted for

Now to bug the others to hitch up at some point soon

[modest pagoda]

@valid pecan

We'll become mobile artillery on god

😎

[warm hazel]

Wish there was an upgrade for being able to shoot whilst hitched

[astral nymph]

As a truck, your speed 3.

So you can move speed 3 and or take actions totalling speed 3 (or - however much you moved)

As a base logicists truck, your maaainly going to be moving supply and units around where its needed....

[warm hazel]

Bahaha

[modest pagoda]

OH TRUE

I Forfot

Forgot

[warm hazel]

And pumping supply into units that are low

[modest pagoda]

That we divided

And im apart of logistics

[astral nymph]

Your primary action (supply drop) that you work with HATs does not require any speed

[modest pagoda]

So 3 speed is what i can do

Phh

Ohhh

[astral nymph]

well even on a tactical map, you'll be speed 3

[modest pagoda]

YEA

EXACTLY

Lmao

[warm hazel]

Hench why we don't want to worry too much about paradropping our units. Might be best to save them for supply reload on trucks

Up to the players

[astral nymph]

You can also reload another unit as an action... which saves them from the reload action, so that is very handy

[valid pecan]

Ready for shoot n' scoot tactics

[modest pagoda]

Ohhh

[warm hazel]

Spamming that on our Arty

:)

[modest pagoda]

Absolutely

Thats what i decided to stay back with the artillery lmak

Lmao

I can keep them loaded

Whilst they mess up the bots defense

[warm hazel]

I saw that assisted reload and the arty tow and was sold

[modest pagoda]

(Also whilst they kill Orbitals)

[astral nymph]

ah, all actions (MOST ACTIONS) cost 0.5 speed

[modest pagoda]

Ah

[warm hazel]

Some can only be done once

[modest pagoda]

So i have 6 actions

[warm hazel]

Pur turn

[modest pagoda]

Fair

[warm hazel]

I believe this is a [PRIMARY] action

[astral nymph]

if an action is PRIMARY, it can only be done once per turn. For a logistics truck, that is the Cargo drop action with a HAT

[warm hazel]

Again I gotta double read it all again

Ayy!

Sweet I was right off the top of my head

[modest pagoda]

So wait i can load all out arty?

[warm hazel]

Yes

[modest pagoda]

Our*

[astral nymph]

You could, if they were all next to you...

[warm hazel]

One truck next to all the arty could do it

[modest pagoda]

Ohohoho

[warm hazel]

but we have 2 combat trucks so

they are likely going to be next to 3 arty each

if we end up splitting

[modest pagoda]

Yeah probably lol

[astral nymph]

you could spend all your speed to take 6 LOADING actions, at .5 speed per action. So long as your not moving and all the arty was right next to each other.

[warm hazel]

We don't want anything getting remotely close enough for us to bother moving our trucks

[astral nymph]

Which is a TERRIBLE idea, but that does exist 😄

[modest pagoda]

Ye

[valid pecan]

However we can only shoot once per turn

[modest pagoda]

Lmao yeah unfortunately theres other stuff we can do with them 6 actions plus each truck can load one arty each

[warm hazel]

And engineers and medics

[modest pagoda]

I think reloading is also a primary

[warm hazel]

And anything that has ammo

[modest pagoda]

So if we do it for hours

Yoh*

You,

At the expense of only 0.5 Speed

[royal minnow]

Eyyy, character bio!

[astral nymph]

Reloading is not a primary action

[modest pagoda]

Oh

Thats better then

[astral nymph]

it is a regular action that takes 0.5 speed.

Which since arty is immobile whe nset up... and and fireing is a PRIMARY action... they can reload with half their speed of 1 and still have room for 1 other assorted action.

[modest pagoda]

Ahhb okay

[astral nymph]

So like... it doesnt make suuuper sense for the truck crew to do it for an arty, but it is nice that the option is there.

It'll matter more for other units which have limited ammunition weapons and might be doing more actions.

EXAMPLE A light mech with a cannon expends its ammunition ebhind lines and is injured. It needs to BOOK IT OUT to friendlies to survive. It uses all of its movement to do so, and does not have the 0.5 speed to reload it's gun. The Truck crew reload it's gun and the mech will have it available to fire that turn (presuming it was out of ammo at the start of it's run.)

[modest pagoda]

I've been trying to find all these rules but i must not have been looking properly since i haven't been able to read em

[astral nymph]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ccgnjyKU8Y0yzMTIAwMoYMQpPqsFvNLNIV3K3Rz-cBE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.vj3yf47k3n

[modest pagoda]

Ah

[astral nymph]

Bear in mind, we ar all beta testing here, so if something doesnt make sense or doesnt mesh well, don't be afraid to speak up. Could be a change needed for V6

[modest pagoda]

Thats what i saw but i gave up because of how Weird the Mobile UI is :/

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-bear-in-mind-mind-brain-roar-gif-22267938

[valid pecan]

um.. i have a question. The rules say that a Primary doesn't use up speed. And the Attack bridge action looks like a standard. So if i had a buddy to keep me loaded, could i take 2 shots at the bridge and then Bombard

[warm hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stimulus-family-guy-2nd-gif-19763504

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-teto-tweaking-silly-vocaloid-gif-8959647035655756991

[astral nymph]

Definitely an oversight. Firing the cannon takes a primary action. The bridge rules are in there because it SPECIFICALLY came up in C3 and we had to make up rules on the fly for it.

[warm hazel]

👀

[astral nymph]

Basically you can
Bombard
Funnell
Destroy a bridge or x or whatever.

[modest pagoda]

👁️ 👁️

So we can kill things through destroying a bridge once theres bots on th

Them

Yay i like indirect killing

[astral nymph]

But firing the gun, is a primary action. There are just different results that come about depending on your intention.

Like, Firing on an orbital isn't listed as Primary action, but your only getting one shot, same as anyone else.

[queen tendon]

What have I missed so far?

[modest pagoda]

Understandable

[modest pagoda]

Not too mu h

Much

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/86anime-frederica-eighty-six-derica-squint-gif-25166025

[modest pagoda]

We've just started loading

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thoughts-head-empty-shikanoko-anime-shikanokonokokoshitantan-gif-8835087894692301893

[astral nymph]

I mean, you might get lucky and the GM will narratively damage a unit like that, but it's also just as likely the gm rules that the units roll up and find the bridge destroyed by your arty fire.

[valid pecan]

So is every trigger pull for every unit in the game a primary, just for context?

[astral nymph]

Yes, if your attacking, that is a PRIMARY. You can only attack once per turn.

EXCEPTION if you have multible mounts on a medium or heavy mech. Both mounts seem to be able to fire, but its still 1 action and 1 'attack' order perse, from the unit

[valid pecan]

got it.

[astral nymph]

Each unit only gets 1 attack roll per round. The dice rolled are representative of the weapon system or (Force Strength) FS of a unit. For example, if a unit has 3 weapon systems in range like a heavy mech, then they will be rolling 3 dice. Units can only fire at units that are in range and in line of sight for direct fire weapons. Only Ground units can be flanked. Hitting the enemy from a direct rear shot ignores armor on vehicles and defense from “Dig In” action on infantry. So flank those tanks!

So yes, if you have 3 weapon mounts, each with a light laser weapon, then you would roll 3 dice.

[modest pagoda]

Ah

Pki

Oki*

[astral nymph]

WHich is... really strong... dang heavy mehcs lol

[modest pagoda]

Lmao yeah

Well they are heavy for a reason i suppose

[valid pecan]

Ok, does the Dig In action stack?

[astral nymph]

Even medium mechs get 2... that is actually suuuper good. Waybetter then my intiial reading. I thought you could choose what to fire (I mean you still can) but if you can fire both wit hthe same action.... very few reasons why you wouldnt

[modest pagoda]

Dayum thats understandable

[queen tendon]

Stack with what?

[astral nymph]

No, once your dug in, your dug in. Digging deeper doesnt make your mode defensive

[modest pagoda]

We're dwarves that's our special group buff lmao

[valid pecan]

got it.

[queen tendon]

You just lose the dug in condition of you move. Unless you’re in a trench

[modest pagoda]

We dig deeper and deeper

And become unstoppable

[astral nymph]

Sandbags can be upgraded into trenches, but not like.... double trench lol

[queen tendon]

Holy fuck we made it to 526 players?

How?

That’s like 40 more from last night

[modest pagoda]

That also surprised me dang

[astral nymph]

1/3 of them are going to drop out by turn 3

[modest pagoda]

Oh dear

[queen tendon]

Most likely

No new dwarves though

I like the changes to the sheet

[astral nymph]

I left some room for them, but doubt were getting anyone at this point

[warm hazel]

God

this is why I want heavy mechs on my orbi hull

[astral nymph]

Yes, my child?

[warm hazel]

🗞️

[astral nymph]

Heavy mech with 3 LRM pods :x

[warm hazel]

You can get multiple on your hull

[astral nymph]

Not a lot of turns of daka, BUT SOOOO much daka

[warm hazel]

and with the chance repair arms may work on them soon

it would be cool to have loader arms or a loading squad

[astral nymph]

Honestly, a heavy mech with 3 lrm pods would make for a craaazy good SAM battery. You can choose how many you fire of your 9 and fire up to 3 at a time if your getting totally swamped.

[valid pecan]

So do I need to worry much about the dice stuff or is that gm work? And will the rolls be visible, atleast the ones that involve us?

[warm hazel]

Is it 1 supply to reload all 3 or 3 supply

[astral nymph]

Oh shit, LRM boxes can fire all 3 at once. I could dump all 9 on someone

LRMs cannot be reloaded. Once they are shot, they spent until next campaign

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/mm-skinny-hoffa-skinnyhoffa-jesus-jesus-is-watching-gif-16319600470739288874

[warm hazel]

ah dammit

Just gotta cycle out the heavy mechs

[modest pagoda]

Ye)

[astral nymph]

Fighters and VTOLs guns are a PRIMARY action for reloading. So if we DO have an airfield on the map. I would HIGHLY recommend one of the trucks volunteer to just sit on the tarmac and reload planes... since they... can... reload action at 0.5 speed?

Squint this feels like an oversight.... WELL... is this in the FAQ?

[modest pagoda]

Shiii that could also be a good idea-

[astral nymph]

Also I think, if your reloading a mech cannon, it's 1 supply for all 3 shots

[modest pagoda]

I don't mind Deviation to that

Though i should set up skipper first

And deliver my supplies

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-27483410

[astral nymph]

regular action according to cobalt. We can absolutely have a logistical armorment team for the VTOL's and Jets, so long as we have supply to keep them shooting.

[modest pagoda]

Awesome

[valid pecan]

So reloading isn't listed as primary for arty. Should I assume it's standard?

[modest pagoda]

Ye

[astral nymph]

Reloading takes 0.5 speed of the arty's speed, not a primary. SO you can reload and fire every round (presuming you did not move yourself)

[silent glade]

Yo Caesar, you still wanna load up with IrS for when we eventually roll out?

[astral nymph]

So your kind of go too turn would be
Unhitch 0.5
PRIMARY FIRE
reload 0.5

END TURN

aand if your already deployed

Fire and reload...

[valid pecan]

Yeah moving on foot is not ideal for us.

We cant move and shoot the same turn

[modest pagoda]

Wait the IRS is here 🥶😰

I have paid my taxes

[astral nymph]

Although if you wanted to fire and scoot. You could

Unhitch
PRIMARY FIRE
Hitch

And have the Logistic Truck reload you with 0.5 of their speed.

THis allows you to Scoot and Shoot in 1 turn.

[valid pecan]

yup

[astral nymph]

IS there a BENEFIT to that? I mean... maybe? Depends on enemy actions. so might be. Not like we have counter battery fire or drones to look out for in this iteration of the rules.

[warm hazel]

Shooting and scooting sounds fun

[modest pagoda]

The main benefit i can see is constantly changing position so the arty doesn't get targeted

[valid pecan]

Great for hasty retreat

[modest pagoda]

Yeah

Also potential flanking

Dw my logitruck has the engine of a space lamborghini

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-lamborghini-butterfly-effect-scene-lamborghini-butterfly-effect-lamborghini-butterfly-effect-scene-lamborghini-flame-exhaust-gif-12076256563614621512

[valid pecan]

Too bad you can't tow the extra 2 small supply with.

[warm hazel]

They will never get us

[modest pagoda]

Ong

[valid pecan]

I only stockpile when deployed.

[modest pagoda]

Ah yes

[astral nymph]

You can if you get the upgrade for it....

[warm hazel]

There is side rack you can get twice

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-like-a-dragon-yakuza-8-ichiban-kasuga-railgun-gif-662888261374371811

Railgun arty?

[astral nymph]

I mean thats what they were before Arty got the nerf bat lol

[modest pagoda]

Lmao dangg

[valid pecan]

So, how do we make the Ontos?

[modest pagoda]

The arty can upgrade into spg.right?

Trying to see if i read the equipment right

[astral nymph]

I mean, you can still sorta do railgun arty. Just got to be a plane for it. HAT has a heavy gunship upgrade which is a 6 round main battle cannon
Ah fuck I really wanna play a c-130 now too. UGH

[modest pagoda]

AC130 ABOVE

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/ac-130-transformers-ac130-airstrike-pelikan-helldivers-gif-9328928069378985569

[astral nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjpXaF8uPpU

Give Aura a fucking tank cannon. PAAAHLEAAASE give my girl a fucking snub nosed cannon

[modest pagoda]

☠️

Nah

She can get

https://tenor.com/view/bt5-tank-jump-water-dive-gif-23960638

[astral nymph]

Gods I wish I hadn't bought this freaking mech or spent req points on the hands to be helpful

WHY DO I GOTTA BE A TEAM PLAYER. LET ME BE GREEDY~!

[modest pagoda]

Shoulda been greed Nalla smh

[valid pecan]

So, did anyone ever get a chance to sit in one of these at a con or something?

[modest pagoda]

No unfortunately

[astral nymph]

I went to an fighter pilot/nasa camp thing when I was living in the south growing up and got to spend time in a flight sim trainer, which was that but for jets. That was a fun week.

[modest pagoda]

That does sound incredibly fun actually

[valid pecan]

So we had a few in my state and i would go every month or so. The mech I would always go for was this thing.

[modest pagoda]

Man i hate how it's still 25°c In the Uk

And its 1am

77°F

For yall

[valid pecan]

Behemoth/Stone Rino. I'm not a big battletech lore guy. But I loved this thing. 3 large lasers and a pair of gauss cannons.

[modest pagoda]

I see

Neat

[silent glade]

My AC is blastin, i would be dead rn otherwise

[queen tendon]

Oof. Just noticed the traders still don’t have any defenders other than the two infantry

[modest pagoda]

Lmao

I wish i had ac

But instead i have

Window.

[proper plank]

And the fighters and a VTOL or two

[modest pagoda]

I'd open my door but like

At 1am

Anyone could.break in xad

XD

[silent glade]

It was the best £350 ive ever spent

[modest pagoda]

Lmao

Fair

My next 300 is going on a meta quest 3s xD

[odd valley]

Hey! Can I join? I just created a Medic unit

[astral nymph]

Absolutely Charzy, WELCOME to the fortress

[modest pagoda]

Aye more medics?

We're eating

[silent glade]

Ah, i wish i could get some of that vr stuff,
Im not sure my wife would appreciate it tho 😂

[odd valley]

What do I need to do to join?

[astral nymph]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1muZ6eUbGh9T1X2CKXfxRDQA4mMZOh2mHMVg0AuL7Xe8/edit?gid=2109992944#gid=2109992944

Drop your name in one of the empty slots at the bottom of the infantry block

[modest pagoda]

🤣🤣

Marriage am I right?

[astral nymph]

I left 2 empty slots for new comers.

[modest pagoda]

Luckily i ain't married

[silent glade]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-tf2medic-practice-medicine-evil-gif-22434393

[odd valley]

That's the "Manpower" block?

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/dokkan-dokkan-battle-dbz-dokkan-battle-dragon-ball-z-dokkan-battle-lr-fortnite-gif-7591418108212977445

[astral nymph]

Not sure whos on for the logistics, ifvs, or light vehicles to see if you wanna hitch a ride in with them. Infantry ideally will be loaded in vehicles while were marching on the strategic map.

YEP manpower block in the top left

[silent glade]

We all appreciate a few more medics

[modest pagoda]

No one shall die

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[odd valley]

Nice, added myself on row 24

I have literally no idea what I'm doing

[astral nymph]

@odd valley And thats it, We just updated the sheet to get seats assigned for deployment so... we'll just need to figure out what chair your riding in when we land planetside. BUT minimally your all registered at this time.

There is a split between a combat and logistics group, which would affect who you turn your turn orders into, but given that your a medic, i'm assuming you want to stay near the front....

yeah your already in combat lol

[odd valley]

Honestly I don't know the difference and I chose whatever the other medics were in

[silent glade]

Just remember to make sure your unit is 'active' 😄

[odd valley]

I think I did this

A guy I know got me into this, but I just realised tonight that it was the last day to sign up

So I haven't actually read a single thing about the mechanics or rules

I just assumed most groups would need medics

[modest pagoda]

We do

[silent glade]

You can always type
/company show then your name
to check
It looks like your all good as i just did that for your name

[astral nymph]

10 slots between VTOL/s IFVs
Assuming light vehicles are taking 2

Leaves us with 9 to be split among the HAT's trucks.

[modest pagoda]

Dam.

[hybrid hazel]

I see a load order and other stuff I’ll double check with my buddies on who is riding with who and all of that stuff. Since my buds and I consist of an IFV, Truck, Vtol and 2 infantry

[valid pecan]

Also we are also going to rescue a bunch of otters from the mines. Probably got some injured there.

[astral nymph]

With a total carry capaicy among those units (yet unclaiemd for what they are carrying of) 18 slots

So thats 90 more supply then the 52 I have accounted for already for a total supply of 142.

at speed 2

[silent glade]

Theres still time before our unit will get into the thick of it, as we are not the tip of the spear, so theres time for us to answer any questions you have about rules etc

[odd valley]

Any actions I need to take in the next 24 hours? I'm planning to actually read the mechanics tomorrow

[astral nymph]

A super fair observation. No one will say no to medics lol

Nope, our unit is not deploying 1st off the boat. Were not the spearhad so you have some time. Do you need the link to the rules?

[odd valley]

It's pinned in #meta-comm , I think

[astral nymph]

jinx

It is, yep. ENjoy reading!

Only thing you need to do maaaybe over the next week is work with one of the empty logistics folks to figure out what vehicle your medics are riding in when we leave the starport.

[odd valley]

I saw during unit creation there's a shop where I can buy upgrades with Requisition Points; Is that something I get in the middle of the campaign? Or something that only happens between campaigns?

[silent glade]

Youll have lots of rec to spend after this campaign before the next one

[astral nymph]

Between campaigns. You get 1 free to buy your starting unit, a medic in this case.

If you survive this campaign, you'll get 5 to spend. If you die, you'll get 4.

[odd valley]

Do I coordinate that in this channel?

[astral nymph]

Yep, this is our battlegroup coms channel . I (and Chrono) JUST put up that section like an hour ago so no one is really loaded or anything, discusions havn't really started yet.

[warm hazel]

Just got cozy in my chair outside. Eager to see how the loading looks later

[astral nymph]

Hopefully it won't matter much but it matters if your on a HAT (heavy Air Transport) that say... gets shot down. WE kinda need to know who dies if they are cargo in another unit.

Which.... we will not be at risk of immediately, but might come up if we're not being careful when we load into a tactical map. Lets not HOT drop turn 1 guys.

[odd valley]

I take it if I die, that's me until the next campaign? And that's months away?

So ideally I would not die

[astral nymph]

Yeah. Dead is dead.

[vale geode]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[astral nymph]

Yeah, don't die lol. At least not turn 1.

We are not hot dropping, so we shouldn't be at risk of that

[vale geode]

nah im dropping in turn 1 and running hands

XD

[silent glade]

Thunderstruck strikes again

[proper plank]

I hope people make liberal use of the @ username when the planning stuff happens

With how chatty we are and how deep planning discussions can get I worry about if I will have any hope to see messages from people wanting arty support/coordination somewhere if they don't ping us (Or just the other unit's owners around them in general).

[silent glade]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[warm hazel]

Ideal no one will die turn one on our team

That is what storm is for

[astral nymph]

Medics are not primary targets (unless there is no one else around). So long as you play a little carefulyl, you'll probably make it through.

IF YOU ARE WORKING WITH SOME ONE, I.E. LOGISTICS AND ARTY. Make liberal use of @. I certainly did as Tac-Com. Just don't do more then 5 in one post or you will get auto banned by the bot.

[valid pecan]

Can you shoot a cannon while mid airdrop? https://youtu.be/rTBkVOYzVZA

[astral nymph]

I mean, if you wanna die, sure. 😄 No paradropping tanks though

[polar shore]

Absolutely! I am looking forward to it

[odd valley]

Gonna report anybody who kills me to the Space Hague for breaking the Space Geneva Convention

[silent glade]

Nice! We can put you down on the sheet as loaded up

[vale geode]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[proper plank]

Great so anyone trying to talk to our arty battery will be auto banned since there are 6 of us. 😛

[valid pecan]

I know we have a lot of tabs already. The sheet is wonderful. Maybe we should ad a ping/no ping?

[astral nymph]

I think you can do 6.... I think the 1 hour SILENCE is on 8

[valid pecan]

Did they not make a Tac-com role to overide that?

[silent glade]

i cant currently edit it on mobile tho, and im definately not getting out of bed. So ill update that your in on the sheet tomorrow morning 😅

[silent glade]

That is not a thing unfortunately no,
Although i can understand why

[polar comet]

eheheheh 😅

So what should I do as a light vehicle? Would I be near the first or the last to be deployed?

[silent glade]

As an entire BG i imagine we will deploy together, when our transport gets to the ground.
Some scouting duties are probably a good idea tho for the LVs

[queen tendon]

What people should do will become a lot more clear over the next week

[valid pecan]

Is real time, scouting info shared campaign wide? Between bgs/tfs?

[vestal mountain]

That opens up some fun electronic warfare/ information warfare mechanics.
Imagine all channel comms being locked to each BG. Then we'll need either TF or relay stations to track local and global movements. How else can we then simulate fog of war?

[warm hazel]

Rp posting hours

[polar comet]

Oh? Where is that bit?

[queen tendon]

correct, every map and update will be sent in #midround-events

[warm hazel]

You can post RP things at the bottom of your orders.

[modest pagoda]

Oh?

Coolio

[warm hazel]

Yeah I plan on using it as we wait

We could host a pizza party or just have a group chat before we head out

[astral nymph]

Yeah general turn orders we use are

Name:
Callsign:
Unit:
(Supplies/ammo/bandages, whatever your unit keeps track of:)
Starting Location:

Movement:
Actions:

Misc RP nonsense and map attachments (kinda helpful sometimes)

I don't think theres a specific outline persay, but this is what I use ^^^^

[valid pecan]

Could you pin?

[astral nymph]

I cannot pin, no 😦

I thinks it's the same one as in the rule book, or clsoe enough

Side note, this was shared with me, and now I share with you. Funniest shit all night

[astral nymph]

Don't forget to sign up for transporting to and what on the sheet.

Axx/Swenfields, you wanna post an instructions for turns in our mission order channel? (when you get the chance, no rush. just getting antsy)

[chilly bridge]

If you have any, I can repost them as well^^

Though, I'm currently on my phone, so I'd need a copy paste version

[silent glade]

probably a good idea 😅 ive not been in a big rush due to us not arriving for a while

[modest pagoda]

Ooh

Right now we're just traveling through space no?

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, we haven't entered the system yet though

We will get there on turn 3

[modest pagoda]

Oof

[vale geode]

Alright whoever wants 6FS worth of Crusader Memes and Black Templar-Levels of Melee, load me up

[modest pagoda]

Dwarvern black templars?

[vale geode]

Just Black Templars

there aint nothing sort about us

[queen tendon]

We've got 6 VTOLs that need 6fs of troops each

As well as 4 IFVs that need 6 FS of troops

[vale geode]

Well whoever wants me, call dibs, shove me into your troop bay, and we’ll burn incense from turn 1 to turn 3

[vale geode]

Also we may attempt to cover you transport in defensive pendants like this is 40k

[queen tendon]

We should probably shove our PAI into either Bobcat or I’s VTOL since we both have the rappelling ropes

[haughty mauve]

I am ready. Load me up

[astral nymph]

Squint Vtols and trucks hats or whatever I guess, feel free to grab the folks marking themselves as loaded. I don't want to do it for anyone in case ya'll get shot down or something

Templar adn Teddy have given permission to be napped up sooo.

With Axx listing hismelf as carrying 2 supply, we are up to 54 confirmed supply (Unless seats change)

[queen tendon]

Well all VTOLs can just have two supplies. Doesn’t impact their infantry capacity

[astral nymph]

Oh... really?

oh neat

That puts at 64 supply. You wanna carry the power armor (Teddy), templar, or someone else?

[royal minnow]

Would the holy servants of the God Emperor’s will enjoy a complimentary flight meal of chicken wings and beer with music?

[hybrid hazel]

I’m riding one Vtol and my buddy got a buddy IFV I’ll try to get my buds to update that info in a bit later today.

[silent glade]

indeed vtols are pretty dang good in alot of ways

[vale geode]

God Emperor?

No just God.

But we will if you’re willing to put up with the incense and heavy metal

[hybrid hazel]

GRNoble gonna spend their time getting drunk with Votann, Iron, STARRMB, and Traktor until we get boots on the ground lol

[astral nymph]

~~just make sure to mark it on the sheeeeet

[hybrid hazel]

I got D&D with my bros today so I’ll pester them during that time or I’ll just update it for them

[royal minnow]

Right, my bad

Heavy metal should be just fine, I’ll make sure to add some purity seals to the mugs as well

Only problem is, apparently command wants us to save the xenos that are down there

So if you wipe them out we don’t get paid

So just remember that

[lime hamlet]

Hell yeah brother

Hey lads. Just to clarify as an IFV how do I load up infantry and or supplies if that's an option. Just in the load section on the spread sheet?

I have someone in mind I've talked to already just need to know how to do it

[hybrid hazel]

You would load up during the actual game but this sets our intended load up

If you’re picking up Votann as discussed just select infantry and add his call sign

[lime hamlet]

Ok 👌

[astral nymph]

Recorded.

[willow lantern]

So, how exactly does this load up sheet work?

[astral nymph]

I'm not sure how it was intended originally, but the 3rd tab is showing all of our logistics folks (Aside from the hats for some reason). As a medic, just reach out to one of the players with capacity to carry infantry and see if you can catch a ride with them.

I don't want tac-coms to just assign people... off chance someone gets shot down on deployment or something. I don't want feelings hurt by someone saying 'well I didn't choose to be on that transport'

[silent glade]

Basically just drop a ping on whoever youd like to ride into battle,
And if they say yep,
One of you can adjust the sheet to show it

[willow lantern]

Got it

[astral nymph]

(Or ping me and I'll do it if either of you are unable)

[silent glade]

Or either tac com, whoevers at a pc will help do it xD

[astral nymph]

Teddy and Kommando just said 'someone kidnap us' so if your an IFV or VTOL or something, just feel free to chuck one of em in the back I suppose

[willow lantern]

Well I'm not really picky about transport, so if there's anyone available just hit me up

[astral nymph]

I'll just mark you as loaded and add you to the kidnap list then 😄

[willow lantern]

Fine by me

[silent glade]

Having a kidnap list will help fill out any last empty spots tbh

[astral nymph]

I just listed them as 'free to grab'

If a vtol or IFV wants one of em (or Light vehicle in the case of engineers/medics) they can just swap it out for their name.

[vale geode]

Unlike Black Templar, we believe in the protection of the innocent not simply killing everything not like us for no reason

[civic folio]

What do i need to do as a MBT

[astral nymph]

Nothing, you moving under your own power like us mechs. Wait for our turn in a week to post turn orders. Wait for intel tomorrow from midturn events? shrug 😄

[proper plank]

Maybe not both in 1 transport. They're important. If we have the space to spread the PAI around it would be the cautiously right thing to do.

[junior orbit]

It's about time I follow this thread 👀