Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms

[queen tendon]

72 + 4 from their engineer and 2 form the VTOL

[modest pagoda]

Ah

[queen tendon]

78 total units between both BGs. So 1 supply per unit

[hybrid hazel]

That’s, not even remotely great

[astral nymph]

it's basically 1 HAT of supplies for 2 BGs.

I mean, that would see us throug hthe first few rounds, yeah. We'd still be reliant on a resupply from a Sortie

[hybrid hazel]

Arty will eat 1 a round in active combat. Each two infantry consume 1 for trenches, (per trench line) + repairs and other fortifications

Sortie can’t resupply us

They can’t use airfields

[astral nymph]

It can, so long as the HATs are up

[modest pagoda]

I assume thats what everyones expecting rn

[astral nymph]

if we have the 2 HATs they can pull 100 supply and then drop them into the trucks

[modest pagoda]

Ye

[astral nymph]

Which, if there is no AF on the map, is what we will be doing

[hybrid hazel]

Also who will use like 3 LS just to resupply us from a sortie?

[astral nymph]

is it not 1 LS?

[queen tendon]

I think we need to plan on resupplying ourselves regardless of what we do. Even with 153 supply we are splitting that between two BGs, we can't just leave ultra with none of their own

[hybrid hazel]

1 LS per sortie round

If they run out all planes are lost

And they have at least 2 regions to cross minimum

If they’re in crossroads

[astral nymph]

Yeah, so 1 round for 100 supply.

Can't they just come down on top of us?

from high orbit?

[queen tendon]

They go off that group's lowest speed so a minimum of 5

[hybrid hazel]

Also we’d need empty trucks and multiple rounds to effectively load them all full again

[astral nymph]

I'm super confused, were talking about sorties... yeah?

[hybrid hazel]

It would be more cost effective to bring the orbitals to us

Sorties are terrible to resupply people

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/imnota-cat-fubuki-gif-18573529

How, can't they just came in from high orbit directly on top of us?

The HATs fly into the aerospace hangar, pick up 100 supply, and fly out?

[queen tendon]

Sortie is aerospace units not orbitals

[astral nymph]

[queen tendon]

It's meant for fighters and bombers

Sortie - Temporary allow Aerospace assets to assist another task force or battlegroup inside their movement range without having to move the taskforce from its currently location on the strategic map. For every 10 assets or less it costs 1 Large Supply per round. A taskforce can only have 1 sortie at a time. If the sortie is still operating at the point their large supply used runs out, they are considered MIA having run out of fuel. Sorties can’t land a airfields, and must return home to rearm and refuel. Note: You can’t make an all aerospace taskforce.

[astral nymph]

I thought the whole point is for Orbitals to drop into the map and affect the combat zone

[hybrid hazel]

“Sortie - Temporary allow Aerospace assets to assist another task force or battlegroup inside their movement range without having to move the taskforce from its currently location on the strategic map. For every 10 assets or less it costs 1 Large Supply per round. A taskforce can only have 1 sortie at a time. If the sortie is still operating at the point their large supply used runs out, they are considered MIA having run out of fuel. Sorties can’t land a airfields, and must return home to rearm and refuel. Note: You can’t make an all aerospace taskforce. TAC-Coms have a full understanding of this sorties objective before sending it to the GM.”

[astral nymph]

Thats a task force yeah! From like a carrier sortie.

Okay then wrong terminalogy. Can't an orbital drop into low atmosphere over us for a turn at the cost of a LS or something?

I could have SWORN iread that in the orbtial rules

[hybrid hazel]

Orbital could still be in same region, that’s more economical. Sending a sortie over just to supply us would be massively costly

[queen tendon]

yes but we only have one task force that can do that

[hybrid hazel]

Each region I think has a high orbital layer

[queen tendon]

and their early turns are going to be helping FSh I beleive

[hybrid hazel]

I’m not sure if they can just jump between lanes with orbitals

[astral nymph]

Yeah thats what I meant.

Well yeah, we also only have 1 Engineer capable of building an AF if there is one on the map, which means we are not getting resupplies until mid or late game.

[queen tendon]

Unless we go get them ourselves

[hybrid hazel]

Here’s the thing. We can’t also carry ultra and move at 2 speed anyway cause they have a one speed vehicle right?

[queen tendon]

The only speed 1 vehicle is artillery which they have none of

[astral nymph]

if we only have 1 orbital capable of low atmosphere travel and 1 engineer capable of field engineers AF

Sure, but then we are circling about to the initial conversation of needign to split off the light mechs and some infantry or something to cover the logistics groups in case of ambush, which weakens the front.

GOD I am spending my 5 req points on a support FOB orbital, christ.

[hybrid hazel]

I’m probably going to pool reqs with some buds in the future to build a strong mini logistics fleet

[astral nymph]

Job is going to bring part of a task force in. PLOP MY ASS DOWN and be a medic/repair/cargo bay/ plane launch

[queen tendon]

I don't think we need to split the combat party too much tbh. If we are smart we can avoid confrontation by going through Elim which we will have at the point we hit the ground

[rich olive]

just caught up on chat and would like to mention on the Q&A sheet the question for more intel (as of around 17 hours ago) was to form a quick moving TF/BG so I don't know if we are going to get more intel

before the start of the campaign

[hybrid hazel]

Not necessarily. Elim might still be in a fight

[queen tendon]

We can't land if the starport is not controlled

[astral nymph]

Yeah, I think we can do it with the light mech, the logics, and some VTOLs with infantry.

IF ELIM is in a fight, then the starport is not ours and were not on the map

[hybrid hazel]

You can control the star port and not the region

[queen tendon]

"Battlegroups who don't have Taskforce transport will Only Arrive if we have secured a Starport to land the Automated Transport Freighters. Mostly likely after the first week of operations."

[astral nymph]

our task forces with BGs our going to Elim first... yeah?

[queen tendon]

We have at least one, I'm trying to get both to

[hybrid hazel]

I am assuming no region is neutral / secure

[astral nymph]

They had both better be

or we could potentially lose turn 1

[queen tendon]

they want to go to crossroads to get the airfield up

[lean notch]

whats been happening? didnt we already sort the logi situation?

[queen tendon]

I'll check to see their current status

[hybrid hazel]

So I assume when we land, there will be some cleanup of Elim. Then we organize and push to the mines. We could go into the mines full supply and if it’s secured we could drop some to increase mobility. That is possible

[queen tendon]

logi is an ever pressing war

But fr we are talking about helping Ultra push to their objective

They doin't ahve the supplies to support themself we will likely need to share

[hybrid hazel]

If we’re sharing we go full supplied

[astral nymph]

Thats fine, but if go at full speed, or even speed 2, and Hill or H-H turns into a brawl, were up shit creek without a paddle

because we will STILL need the orbital to drop a LS at Elim Airfield to resupply us

[queen tendon]

We backtrack and resupply ourselves

[hybrid hazel]

From what?

[queen tendon]

I don't think speed 3 is a good idea, that was just a thought exercise

[hybrid hazel]

That’s the thing. There isn’t just a stockpile to Pull from

[astral nymph]

Elim Airfield and a large supply drop.

[queen tendon]

Worst case crossroads airfield

[hybrid hazel]

That will likely be used up by the time we need more resources

Others are pulling from the collective pile also

[queen tendon]

supplies are unlimited as long as its supplied by an LS every 2 rounds

[hybrid hazel]

And how many LS do you genuinely think is in the entire fleet? Lol

Not a lot

[astral nymph]

Yeah, and we have both a Large Depot and an AF engiener, so thats 3 turns.

We just are not going to have a lot of Large Supply

[hybrid hazel]

From what I’ve gathered

[queen tendon]

if we don't have enough we legit can't do anything. We will leave

"This represents our War Chest for the current conflict. When this runs dry. We’re done"

LS gone its over

[hybrid hazel]

Done as in out of field resources to resupply

We are still fighting

[queen tendon]

done as in we leave

[hybrid hazel]

We don’t just lose

Nothing says that

We’re done as in we’re out of gas to keep refueling

[astral nymph]

No more supply, so we better be winning lol

we did run out supply technically last campaign. Xsowrd and I pulled the last 20 and emptied it

[knotty bramble]

Description for some reason still states 3 rounds and changed for orbitals to one round

[hybrid hazel]

This is a hold out campaign. We make every LS stretch as far as we can and that includes backpacking everything in

[astral nymph]

to repair the citadel af

[hybrid hazel]

If we can supply up to 200 with ultra and hold a line, that works for completing the set objective

[knotty bramble]

Where are you pulling those needed supply numbers?

[hybrid hazel]

To hold out

That’s rough estimate of capacity with ultra

[queen tendon]

If we move at speed one we can hold 153 supply ourselves

[hybrid hazel]

• whatever ultra brings if they move with us

[queen tendon]

With Ultra it becomes 169

[hybrid hazel]

Also, our vehicles can still move full speed in combat. We’re overthinking region movement if we plan to bunker down lol

[knotty bramble]

Well I would say it depends on what units you both combine together. High vic count means many repairs though that is limited by how many engineers you have or vice with the ability to repair themselves

[astral nymph]

We have 5 with us, which is... enough.

[hybrid hazel]

We have 5 engineers and 6 arty to shoot in DF

At least trenches are super cheap

1 supply for 2 infantry units covered

If we never move them

[queen tendon]

I don't think we can plan on this stockpile idea, we need to think about the future and how we can get supplies to ourselves

[hybrid hazel]

I am thinking of the future. Future is its to unknown to rely on others and we’re playing defensive

So better to come over prepared than under

[knotty bramble]

Being independent is nice but needs mobility if it goes sideways or supplies are just needed

[queen tendon]

everyone is going to be doing their own shit. It's not really plausible to believe that we can be bailed out. Especially when we are the best formed bg for self reliance

[hybrid hazel]

We’re not trying to outmaneuver the strategic map enemies. We’re holding ground we can reach in moderate time

[astral nymph]

In that case, I think it's best we do what Crazy Suggests which is to split the Light Mechs and like... 1 engineer, 1 medic, and 2 infantry, 4 vtols, logistcis, and the fighters, into a Dwarven Merchant convoy and use it only if we absolutly have too while carrying in at speed 1 or 2.

But thats a totally moot point if Hill or H-H has an airfield

[hybrid hazel]

We’ll have to communicate with the entire BG on this effectively if that’s even a remote plan.

[queen tendon]

Yes and no on the moot point. I genuinely don't know how many airfields we can keep up and running just because our LS count is still in the air

[hybrid hazel]

And my truck + vtol + infantry buddy all want to frontline lol

[queen tendon]

that's fine, no one will be forced to do anything they won't want to

I hope that's nota genuine worry

[knotty bramble]

Still needs a LS for which Atlas would need to turn up though. Probably a fixed wing could still land there. So at least repairs would be easy for you

[astral nymph]

Doesnt matter, if we have one, 1 large supply will drop us 150 small supply and even with the rules change, 0 reason to suggest we'll blow through 300 supply

[hybrid hazel]

Also, further we push the further we’ll likely be from resupply.

[queen tendon]

can we stockpile it? that's a genuine question

[astral nymph]

Cause no matter what, they are spending LS to get us small supply, doesnt matter where we go for it

[queen tendon]

looking in the rules

[hybrid hazel]

Not really.

[astral nymph]

Not without a FOB and a medium supply. I don't think we can just drop it on the map in a pile

[hybrid hazel]

We’d need to build certain structures or have vehicles that can hold them

[knotty bramble]

There can be made a case from Lussan that people got supplied out of a landed HAT

[hybrid hazel]

If we could build a FOB and even a medium depot we could just bring medium supply and each one will give 2 rounds of SS

[queen tendon]

We can hover our HAT's and coordinate airdrops with them

using trucks

[hybrid hazel]

Our trucks cannot carry medium supply without being upgraded and none are. We have no engineers who can build fobs either

[astral nymph]

Exactly

[knotty bramble]

Well no one has them

[hybrid hazel]

If we had a rugged Hat, temporary airfield and a fob we could be set with medium supply

We do actually have a temp airfield but no rugged Hats, nor do we have a way to build a fob next to it

Fob also costs a medium supply to build

[steady island]

the moon tora is under invasion we don’t know about the actual planet but intel is a month old.

so it’s very possible the bots have started invading already.

they might even have the mines already and we would need to take it first before trying to hold.

thankfully artillery is still useful on the offensive

[hybrid hazel]

That’s why I’m not betting on speed. It’s likely it’ll take multiple turns to fight and secure a star port. Planet is already invaded to some capacity im certain of it

[astral nymph]

Needs more intel!

Table this discussion for later in the week

[hybrid hazel]

We should probably table most discussions in general. I’m still going to promote backpacking as much as we can in

Gotta prep for a D&D sesh anyways lol

-# God just one more truck

[queen tendon]

I don't think we are getting much more intel until we do our scouting rounds

Which involves our fastest TF/BGs so probably just fluffle/rabbit and storm blessed

[astral nymph]

Then... If thats the case... Midway through next week or close to spawn, lets split logistics/lightmechs/+some others into a logistics run IN THE OFF CHANCE WE ARE TOTALLY DESPERATE AND IT IS THE ONLY OPTION.

And then move at speed 1 and backpack.

If there's an AF at Mine or H-H we'll look awfully silly, but if not, we'll be in the clear. till later on when we need a supply run or Shovels can build a second airfield for us or the 1 orbital can resupply us

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-anime-usagi-sailormoon-gif-6088582

My thoughts at least

I'd rather we look silly and there's an af and never need to split then not have those options at need them

I've chatted and spamemd enough, hugs.

[queen tendon]

the other plus is our maps can look a lot more legible lmao

55 people on a map is wild

[astral nymph]

Depends on the size of the map, but yeah

[hybrid hazel]

considering most will be at crossroads with like 200+ at minimum will be interesting to see

[queen tendon]

I think we'll look smart if we split our bg, seeing how Shack was saying people should do it

[astral nymph]

Might be necessary. Better to do it and not need it then not and not have it

[warm hazel]

Oh no

More talk of a split?

Mommy and Daddy can't be fighting again

[astral nymph]

Oh its not a split... more of a worst case scenario, we have the option to get supply if in no way it can get to us and we have to go get it, without abandoning a position or a fight

[warm hazel]

Ah yeah I guess they would be able to run off.

I mean they 100% would need armor to cover them

Anywah that is for a later time

God I am eager to play in this word. I keep running into IRL buddies and yapping their ear off about it

||Might have found another player||

[queen tendon]

Aghain the split is only for logistical reasons we would still operate together. I'm not usggesting we bnreak the band up in any way

[hybrid hazel]

Basically, we’re still one group and operate as one. The split would just allow us to be in two regions at once if we need logistics to leave for resupply is what I’ve gathered.
If this is happening, you think we could just eat ultra and combine the two groups?

And combine our logistic / fighting force

Ultra Dwarf fortress

We have very similar plans

[queen tendon]

I'm not going to suggest that to them. Work with them? sure. But not eat them

[hybrid hazel]

I just mean we’re basically planning to do the same stuff. Maybe if they plan to shuffle around we could be three groups. Vanguard, main army and logistics

I’ll take a look at the combined forces and maybe make a suggestion in the near future lol

[astral nymph]

We are not, they want to specifically be a 'help the civies' group. its a different mission from us

let them do their thing.

[hybrid hazel]

It’s not forced. Just a suggestion

[astral nymph]

fair enough

[civic folio]

Just tell me where to point my tank cannon, other than that im just along for the ride lol

[hybrid hazel]

Main army holds the line and build defences. Vanguard screens and pick up civies if possible with mobile troops and logistics stick with both and head back if resupply is desperately needed

Anyways, just food for thought

[steady island]

ee we only have a single lance of light mechs 4-5 spilting them early on could be detrimental

unless you’re gonna use us (mecha) as spotters for artillery it might be best to keep us (mecha) all together

[astral nymph]

Oh god no, the mechsstay together no matter what. My opinion (as a mech) 4 light mechs working together is VERY effective.

I just meant, they'd also be good at making a logistcs run as support if we needed to an absolute worst case scenario. As thy can keep up with the trucks and provide some light armor and mobility...

but I'd rather never need to worry about that

[queen tendon]

That's something we can decide later because ultimately its the players choice we cannot, and will not force anyone to do anything

[steady island]

ships require more than one person to control the ship right?

if that wasn’t the case i was thinking of maybe trying to go for an assault carrier build

save up points

[wintry swan]

nah we're definitely the best 😎

[steady island]

🤔 12 BGs and only 3 Task Force we should probably try to coordinate before entering the system since there’s a 1:4 ratio there

decide which BGs are gonna be loaded up in the first wave

[astral nymph]

Theres 2 going in first. Rabbit and someone else, yeah....

Ships require... I think it's 3, 1 captain and 2 crew players per ship minimum

though you can have up to like 8, not incluiding support troops and stuff if you have room for them.

[steady island]

yeah i don’t like the idea of having to share my ship XD

my light mech is my light mech

[silver widget]

That’s why I said technically

Which is why arty is going be so important

[steady island]

someone speculated about there being bot factories for every 20 players so if speculation holds we are dealing with 21-22 bot factories

[warm hazel]

You can have a solo Orbi it needs to be the smallest one

There is crew requirements on ship size

[sand whale]

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[warm hazel]

We will build the greatest fort for dwarfs on that hill

[vestal mountain]

Now the next step after is to grab as many robot's attention to the front side of said fort.

[warm hazel]

Gosh yeah, we need several turns of 'build defense' as they said every turn we do that is another turn on the tac map we have free reign to setup when the fight starts. Just funnel them in after a few rounds of that an watch the scrap grinder start

[snow python]

Who wants to see if we can get 1 more arty to retain the title of holding half of all active arty?

[valid pecan]

I want enough for 1812

[soft agate]

Redwall book refference?

crazy

Dwarf fort stay winning

we will not let a single bot get through our 400 km of defenses

[steady island]

so how will we be defending? will it be a defense in depth (delay and fall back while waiting for reinforcements)?

active defense? (offense is best defense, dig in than when they attack switch to seek and destroy)

or are we doing hard point? centering defense on a hard point/s and holding out as long as possible

[silent glade]

Its going to depend on the map, my suspicion is that it will start out as hard points with the way the tactical layer defense system works,
We get a bunch of turns all at once depending how longwe were defending a map before the enemy arrive.
But considering people will want kills it will probably turn into chasing down/finishing off weakened enemies assuming we dont all get shot in the first half

[glass thicket]

No, we will go the same route as you.

[glass thicket]

Since both our BGs will be going the same route, if there will be trouble with Hill mine at the initial stage you can count on our cannons.

All we ask is to lend engie units max 2 in order to bolster Haydar defenses and to help retreating once we are done with civs or we will be facing overwhelming enemy forces

[hybrid hazel]

thats up to the engies

[steady island]

any volunteers from engies?

it’s best to give them at least some help

you may die at Haydar but that’s a risk i am willing to make but alas i am no engie

[lean notch]

Will the VTOLs be used for an air bridge?

[modest pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[chilly bridge]

How do you mean? As in getting supplies from somewhere to us?

[warm hazel]

From my understanding is the tac map will be shown to us when the attack happens and we will have as many turns as we spent 'defending a site' to build it up as we see fit. Will be hard to form a plan until it happens but we are lucky supply is able to be anything so we are pretty free with our designs

We are a huge force so it could be a bad idea to sit at the mine? Unless of course it does something for us like it turns into a mid mission quest or provides some kinda supply to the war as we suspect it could be a spawner by the time we show up

[chilly bridge]

Jup, that's right^^

[chilly bridge]

I think the current, floating idea is to move from Emil over Hill Mines and H-H towards Haydar, accompanying Ultra. Afterwards return.. but we do lack intel for indepth plans. We will probavly have to see what's happening

[warm hazel]

A lot of our planning is likely gonna happen on the fly as shit starts hitting the fan in full

[dreamy glade]

Do you guys have any use for a HAT?

[warm hazel]

Tons!

They are a great pair with Logi trucks being able to dump cargo directly into them with out landing

And can para drop tons of units

[warm hazel]

Feel free to add your information in the pinned sheet of the chat if you wish to join. An I like the icon

[dreamy glade]

Your goal is to fortify right?

[dreamy glade]

I will thanks 👍

[warm hazel]

Yes it is one of our plans. We can't form any solid ideas just yet with lack of info

One of the goals is to possibly spend a few rounds defending to let us setup for another BG to funnel them into 6 arty

[dreamy glade]

Where are all the HAT'S signed up man lol. I think I'm the only HAT in this battlegroup.

Oh no 2 more HAT'S in this bg

[warm hazel]

Bahah there is a section for troops, ground vehicles, and air vehicles. Got to look in the air vehicles list on the right

[dreamy glade]

Yeah saw that one to late

[warm hazel]

[onyx forge]

Rabbit is getting far less engineers than I was expecting it to so I would just like to request repairs for rabbit in the future if we ever drive through the hills, likely we'll be bringing our own supplies to repair us as well. So if it's possible we would be very grateful 🙏

[willow lantern]

I'm not one of the engies but I'm sure they'll gladly do it when you're close by

[silent glade]

im sure they would be happy to help, ill make a note to mention it to the engies when they pop into the chat again

[minor solar]

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Hello, how are ya doing me lads

[queen tendon]

Morning everyone. I see we got a new recruit

Someone broke my calculations on the sheet

[minor solar]

🇴 🇭 🇳 🇴

[queen tendon]

I made a copy I can fix it

Fixed now

[terse merlin]

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[minor solar]

[glass thicket]

Well, if we are going to work together on northern front, here's current Ultra force composition

At the moment we can transport 6 full INF units

on our own

[queen tendon]

I was taking a look yesterday. We’d need to carry 5 groups of 6 FS infantry. Bringing our supplies down by 25

[queen tendon]

If you put your medics and engineer together you get 12 FS which means they can all fit in your truck. Then put another 4 in your IFVs/VTOL. That leaves 5 6FS infantry

[glass thicket]

Yeah, but given the composition we will have to be slow if we want to maintain coherency

For Ultra i mean

[queen tendon]

Together we could hit speed two, with DF taking the extra 5 infantry. That would bring our supply count to 102 + the 6 you could bring

By taking I just mean transporting

Now do we want to go speed two? I dunno. That’s a larger conversation that we might want to wait to see if we get more intel on.

[astral nymph]

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[queen tendon]

So uhhh. Feels a bit awkward with what just happened in meta comm. But I was going to ask if we wanted to put a poll or two in our google sheet about our own logi problem and planning. That way we can get people’s opinions without it being an active topic all the time, since people are coming in and out as they can

[astral nymph]

I think thats fine, would that be for the logistics company?

[silent glade]

makes sense to put together a poll

[queen tendon]

That and our plan of more supplies at speed one or less supplies at speed 2

[astral nymph]

As time has gone on, the idea has grown on me as a safety measure. lol

It's less important now that we got the 3rd HAT

[queen tendon]

Which with our new HAT and including units we transport for Ultra it would be 102 + their 6

Or 178 at full march

[silent glade]

ngl 102 is pretty chunky, our supply issues dont look too bad to my eyes rn

[astral nymph]

At speed 2, 100 supply is probably enough.

At full march with near 200 supply? we will not need a resupply the whole campaign.

[queen tendon]

I’m also assuming we split them with Ultra. Because they can’t supply themselves rn

So as long as we are marching our supplies is probably also theirs

[astral nymph]

Even with them, I find it hard to imagine we'll use 200 supply that fast.

[silent glade]

oh ofcorse, they dont have a massive amount that uses supply in comparison tho i think

their biggest drain is medics, unless they have some weapon system or fuel upgrades we cant see

[queen tendon]

They have a decent amount of armor too which needs repaired

[astral nymph]

They'll also spend some on building and medical care for civilians for RP purposes

We've had a BG do this every campaign at this point. It's Roleplay Spent supply, but we've usually gotten some intel or something out of it from Shack.

[queen tendon]

Continuing the Armco tradition of aiding civilians

Love to see it

assuming there are civilians left there

[astral nymph]

[queen tendon]

I’m gonna be in and out for most of the day. So just ping me if something comes up

[astral nymph]

I'm around all day as well, so same. Just sitting at work

[glass thicket]

Most of our forces consists of basic units, no upgrades. Only our Logi is upgrade to HET

[astral nymph]

Yeah thats no problem. (^.^)

[glass thicket]

Well we are greenhorns of this campaign

[astral nymph]

So is over half of DF. Probably going to be the same across all groups aside from maybe the orbital one

[glass thicket]

right, so now lets hope we manage to set foot on planet

with all those juryrigged upgrades to ships

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-all-gonna-die-gif-23367039

[queen tendon]

@astral nymph would you mind setting up the polls on the sheet? Just so as people stop by they can toss in their vote. If you wouldn’t mind linking this message as well, that would be awesome

[astral nymph]

Sure thing, is this the poll for Splitting into Logistics + Escort / Main Fighting Force?

@queen tendon

[queen tendon]

Yeah

[astral nymph]

Cool, on it

[queen tendon]

Sweet, thanks

[astral nymph]

Done

[valid pecan]

Is this a vote for the split or a poll of folks willing to split off?

[astral nymph]

ATTENTION ALL DWARF FORT MEMBERS! Please direct your attention to the Roster for our group. In the line for the roster you will now see a question. PLEASE provide a simple YES or NO answer to this question in the drop down. The question is simple,

DO WE split the battle group (voluntarrily of course) into a logistical team (with some escorts perhaps) and the main fighting force. We will continue to act together at most times, but doing this allows Dwarf Fort the flexibility to dispatch a truck convoy and the HATs to exit a map mid combat to head behind safe lines to an established supply point, pick up supplies, and return to us.

This might be necessary as (unless there is an airfield already present on the map we are actively fighting in that we can capture) ARMCO's resources on building airfields (1 unit out of 500) and bringing in Large Supply (2 task forces) is INCREDEBLY limited. We may be stuck with only the small supply we bring in. This Logistical Split would allow us the flexibility, if with some added risk, to resupply mid combat.

We will not force anyone to be part of this convoy or anything if it gets voted for. It's a volunteer thing, but it gives us options we may not otherwise have should the worst develop. This way we are not entirely reliant on a Task Force or other BG to bail us out if the worst happens, and we maintain supply continuity.

The reason this might be necessary is because battlegroups MUST move together on the strategic map. Meaning, if we were engaged in a fight and we ran out of supplies, in order to get more (if none can get to us) we would need to ABANDON whatever position we were at and retreat backwards on the strategic map, perhaps giving up key positions to the Bots.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1muZ6eUbGh9T1X2CKXfxRDQA4mMZOh2mHMVg0AuL7Xe8/edit?gid=2109992944#gid=2109992944

[queen tendon]

For if the split happens

Which does bring up a good point. No one will be forced to choose one group or the other. It’ll all be voluntary. We don’t make people do things here

[astral nymph]

We can call them Dwarven Merchants, or Liason from the Mountainhome or something 😄

There is much to discuss: Information has been added to the world strategic map.

[silent glade]

oh,, most interesting

[queen tendon]

Where? I missed it

[astral nymph]

That was a joke, that was a dwarf reference. We have no new intel

[queen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

I was excited for a moment

[silent glade]

😂

[chilly bridge]

@kind gyro Could you pin that? ^^

Fucking love the stats on our sheet^^

And our poor sole LV there 😄

[brazen helm]

im hanging out

i will be the ambulance

[chilly bridge]

Everyone's grouped up in at least a pair, and you are just alone xD

[brazen helm]

:p

[queen tendon]

Were the Ark of units. But we forgot HVTOLs and we could only find one LV

[chilly bridge]

Tbf there are only a couple of HVTOLs. They should be as rare as ODTs

[kind gyro]

Did someone tag me here?

[silent glade]

Theyre after a pin for a poll request

[astral nymph]

Thank you so much Dres, we had an important question we added to that and need it pinned

[silent glade]

Aah i see ya got it

[chilly bridge]

Thanks! 😄

[queen tendon]

Thanks Dres

[silent glade]

I have a petition for the naming convention of our possibly split but together BG

[astral nymph]

bit early, but shoot your shot 😄

[silent glade]

Combat - Rock
And
Logi - Stone

[chilly bridge]

I... like that!

DF "Stone" and DF "Rock" ?

[queen tendon]

No no

[chilly bridge]

Aww

[queen tendon]

I liked stone and stone better

[chilly bridge]

fuck xD

[queen tendon]

I saw that one lmao

Nah but I like it

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, my brain short circuited while typing xD

[queen tendon]

It happens all the time to me

Earlier I used both the wrong there and are in the same sentence

[chilly bridge]

Fair enough. xD

[silent glade]

Yeah we are all still Dwarf Fortress but part of either the Rock or the Stone branch

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, that was my thought process. Making it divisions of the BG DF

[queen tendon]

I’m gonna head out but ping if needed. I’m trying to limit what I say in here so more people see the poll before it gets flooded away

[chilly bridge]

It's pinned, so hopefully people see that

[astral nymph]

CHECK THE PINS EVERYONE

[warm hazel]

Oh

[hybrid hazel]

Will do in a bit. Also, got another buddy to join he’s an IFV.

[warm hazel]

I will deal with thinking about this later but are we not able to split in the middle of the game either?

Yay new ifv

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-anime-head-shake-no-kyouko-gif-27551583

[warm hazel]

💔

[astral nymph]

Once we go live, we are stuck in formation. So we either plan ahead, or deal with it if it becomes an issue and hope we dont regretti.

[warm hazel]

Bweh that is a bother

[chilly bridge]

It functions quite nice though.

[civic folio]

I just want to say, i pioneered this name change lol

[hybrid hazel]

Quick question on orbitals, do the free bays/landing gears on a hull take up a CS or no?

[chilly bridge]

I don't think they do

[silent glade]

Tbh, i dont realy mind if OFFICIALY we are 2 groups,
We know we are 1 and wont be splitting realy, we would even still share the same chat here and everything would be the same,
We would just officialy be 2 BGs

[chilly bridge]

But, I can be mistaken on that. might be good to ask Shack

[civic folio]

@astral nymph sorry for the ping, so I think if we do split we shouldn't put all our eggs in 1 basket (ie like all VTOLs or like all our air support) into 1 singular BG, it could the other with a weak spot if we do have to go to seperate regions.

[astral nymph]

Agreed, it'd be voluntary and who would want to be an escort. OFF CHANCE we run into trouble on the trip. SHOULDN'T, but I don't wanna send em out totally at the mercy of some random air sortie from the bots behind our lines.

[queen tendon]

Well the plan is for the more mobile logi group to only go through channels we have Armco control of

[civic folio]

I also dont want the main force to be like without air support either if they go on a supply run

[astral nymph]

BUT, I still wouldn't want them to be totally alone because if WE can sortie, they can sortie.

[queen tendon]

Air support with the main force can’t resupply is the issue

[silent glade]

The air units are perhaps the most flexible that could be escorts or part of the combat group, itl be up to each one tbh.
Also yeah its their resupply thats the issue we need to deal with

[hybrid hazel]

Alright, if the frees don’t go against CS count, and I assume crews can use their 2 Reqs to become a captain immediately. Two people with 1 req each could make an orbital frigate with a flight deck and a Bay with one large supply. A mobile airbase that can land and gives us a hefty resupply option. (Doubt anyone would want to do this though just to support a battlegroup lol)

[civic folio]

Yeah, I agree, they should have offense support, for their defense, but I also dont want to leave the main force sitting ducks without support either, I feel a nice healthy split of air assets would be good.

[astral nymph]

I would have absolutely done this if I was allowed to refund this mech I bought for the smaller in between games I didn't get into. -_-

That or a Rugged HAT

[silent glade]

You say that but,
I totaly would as a tac com run that unit

[astral nymph]

There are some crazy logistic folks out here that just wanna be support. We're not many, but we exist lol

[civic folio]

Lmfao what i can see happening after this campaign is EVERYONE being like "man logi and support was such a problem last campaign" that the next campaign is going to be nothing but logi and support 🤣

[hybrid hazel]

True lol. Different units can also contribute orbital upgrades which could help make this (aircraft contributing a flight deck if it has it)

[warm hazel]

Support mains rise up

[chilly bridge]

Tbh I wanted to play Orbital anyways, so I'm definitely going to be an Orbital enxt campaign xD

[astral nymph]

That was a c2 problem. We had a tooon of logistics on that one (not trucks, but many more HATs then we needed)

And do a certain extent in C3, we also had FAR too many HVTOLs and that made some folks unhappy

[warm hazel]

Exactly my plan too. Big Logi orbi to get more people to play earlier

[chilly bridge]

I don't know about Logi, but any Logi TF will need cover

[valid pecan]

might not be a problem. Have you heard the story of the a37 dragonfly?

[hybrid hazel]

I’m definitely going to plan something out with my homies for the next campaign. I got 4 buddies with me. So the 5 of us could do some interesting orbitals / unit comps next campaign with our 5 Reqs

[warm hazel]

Also very true. Flight decks could help or just an orbi with the big guns

[civic folio]

Like, Im of the boat that I dont mind after this campaign being the offensive escort for a logi team. I still get to blow things up, but im also doing the entire campaign a favor with overwatch of logi

[warm hazel]

From the sounds of it the escort is unlikely to leave the main force. Only if things get low on supply and with no other option of rearm

[civic folio]

Im also a solo here, none of my friends are really interested in this kind of thing.
Sucks that it would mean I would struggle to run Orbital, but it does offer flexibility with being able to get to run with different groups that want to focus on different things

[warm hazel]

Bullied a few buddies into playing myself but from the sounds of it plenty of random dorks are willing to hop along with an idea

So far loving this place for that fact

[astral nymph]

There's plenty of folks around here that'd join you in an orbital. Especially next campaign when we all have ~5 req points.

We might see an issue where we have TOO MANY orbitals in C6

[chilly bridge]

I mean, if units survive this campaign, we still can switch at a later stage

[warm hazel]

Orbi sweep

[hybrid hazel]

A part of me hopes to get 7 buddies together to pick up artillery and then have them supply a main ship cannon. The one the arty provide gets a free 180 degree rotation without the extra CS slot (7 cannon battleship with rotating guns)

(This idea probably isn’t useful and is just fun)

[civic folio]

There are ODST like infantry isnt there?

[queen tendon]

It’s an upgrade infantry can take yea

[astral nymph]

I think it costs 1 req point and then they need to have an orbitla with drop pods.

[chilly bridge]

You mean ODTs?

[civic folio]

Possibly, I havent looked to indepth at the infantry upgrades, I saw power armor as one of the top upgrades and was like "on to the next one"

[astral nymph]

I wouldn't call power armor an upgrade. It's more of a side grade. There's a trade offs for taking it, gives you other options infantry do not have, but there are things infantry can do that power armor can't.

[chilly bridge]

ODT is an side grade as well, I think. It's the Unit that can use Drop pods

[astral nymph]

All of the upgrades are really 'side grades' theirs tradeoffs for them. Though some might be required to have some of looking at you Field Engineers

[queen tendon]

More intel will be on the way. Potentially

[chilly bridge]

Dang, that sounds awesome!

[hybrid hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator2-judgement-day-t800-war-gif-19401019

[civic folio]

God speed soldiers

[hybrid hazel]

the video we recieve

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-gif-27205452

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-salute-slow-loop-koharu-minagi-yes-sir-gif-1828403901294065839

[wintry swan]

why what just happened in meta comm?

[astral nymph]

There was some ruffled feathers over how logistics were functioning and in order to move on the strategic map, the ENTIRE BG has to move as one unit, and Fyre quiet over it.

[queen tendon]

Yeah that

[wintry swan]

I expect that the recce force Storm is sending in will find some possible airfields for us, and that will help us plan

[astral nymph]

My hope as well. Perhaps that will negate the potential need for a logistics group.

[eager spruce]

I'm transferring over to TF Victorum. Good luck, lads

[civic folio]

Give'm hell

Also my fellow MBTs, do we wanna come up with a silly name for our tank platoon? Lol

[hybrid hazel]

wait when did we get a third Hat?

[queen tendon]

Last night

[queen tendon]

Keep the skies clear for us

[hybrid hazel]

3 hats can move a lot of supply

[wintry swan]

Personally I like the air force fighter fantasy more than the naval fighter fantasy so I'm sticking here

[hybrid hazel]

hopefully we get an airfield to keep you well supplied

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/アトリ-atri-atri-anime-atri-my-dear-moments-atri-adaptation-gif-3866467084727918027

Fly safe friend, good hunting Mage

[civic folio]

I dont remember off the top of my head and dont want to go searching through the book, what is a HAT?

[hybrid hazel]

heavy air transport

[astral nymph]

Heavy Air Transport. Big cargo Planes

[hybrid hazel]

has 5 slots

so can carry 5 units or 25 supply

[astral nymph]

I thought it was 50 supply?

[civic folio]

Ah. Like a C17 or C5?

[astral nymph]

Yes

[hybrid hazel]

each slot holds 5 supply

I shall double check

[civic folio]

5 slots seems more like a C5

C5 is the Galaxy, the big boy with the front nose that opens

[astral nymph]

Yeah Pretty much

[queen tendon]

5 supply per slot, 5 slots

[astral nymph]

It does have a few side grades that would result in different real world equivelents, but at base it's a C5

just space worthy

[hybrid hazel]

5 slots can hold 5 supply, so our combined 3 Hats could carry 75 supply

our 6 trucks can carry 10 each from 2 slots each, so thats 60 supply

[astral nymph]

Do we have any AC130s? anyone take that sidegrade?

[hybrid hazel]

so 135 base supply carry

[hybrid hazel]

I don't believe so

[queen tendon]

Can someone check the sheet for the supply count? Bad cell service here

[astral nymph]

127 at Speed 2, 67 at Speed 3. NOT including ULTRA

[queen tendon]

Ultra reduces our supply by 25 at speed 2. Didn’t bother looking into speed 3, not feasible

[astral nymph]

Then were at 102

[hybrid hazel]

135 + 10 from Vtols, +1 from light, +12 from arty, +20 from engineers. so, 182 I think?

if we go full supply

[astral nymph]

I mean, if we walked it'd be like 182, yeah

[queen tendon]

They do add another 6 though, so 108

At speed 1 they add 16

[astral nymph]

yeah, we basically can move speed 2 and have ~100 supply for 2 BGs or move at speed 1 and have ~200 supply

[hybrid hazel]

182 supply + 16 would be a combined 198

assuming no upgrades

if you want to count medics each carry 1 supply worth of medical supplies lol

[astral nymph]

I mean basically but their supply isn't transferrable like Arty's is

REMEMBER ALL WHO ARE CHECKING IN. CHECK PINS. WE ADDED A POLL TO THE SHEET

[civic folio]

Didn't we establish already though that Ultra is locked into speed 1?

[silent glade]

not if we let them hop on our transports

[civic folio]

But something about Sam's Runners

[queen tendon]

By themselves they are locked in speed one. But we can get them to two if we go with them

[astral nymph]

which si why they wanna

https://tenor.com/view/borderlands-borderland-scooter-catcharide-catch-a-ride-gif-6343521928528975943

[civic folio]

Ok, how much supply's would we use in a round if EVERYTHING fires and does their thing (like medical)

[hybrid hazel]

assuming every engineer does something and every artillery fires, thats 11 supply, that doesn't include any reloads or rearms or anything like that

medics if they all healed would use almost another full supply a round, so like 11.75

[astral nymph]

5 engineers each spend 1, 6 arty fire = 11. Not including plane or VTOL rearming, which could increase it to upwards of 19.
If all the medics need a resupply, thats 21

[civic folio]

Im trying to get a gage of like, how long can we last if we go FULL throttle into our supplies.
That'll give us the very worst case scenario on SPR (supplies per round) and we can go from there on a more realistic approach and see what our sustainability looks like.

[hybrid hazel]

I'd bet if engineers are constantly repairing / building, and artillery is constantly firing I'd place it at around 12 a round assumed minimum

[astral nymph]

guestimating 12 a round is probably a safe bet.

[hybrid hazel]

12-13 questimating range of full on we're eating supply at a constant stream to a high level

[astral nymph]

there will be rounds we use less and rounds we lose more.

Keep in mind, every campaign so far has gone ~15 rounds

this one might be longer

[civic folio]

I get the gut feeling (having not played the others and this being my first) that this is going to be a drawn out campaign

[hybrid hazel]

assuming we dig in fully, thats 6-7 total supply for trenches if we only make one line. if we fortify with barb wire and other things lets assume our advanced defensive lines could cost between 14-20 supply easily.

[civic folio]

Especially with the increased pay amount l

[hybrid hazel]

I don't think sandbags work for vehicles right?

only infantry?

[astral nymph]

Sandbags do not work for vehicles, though some can be dug in....

[hybrid hazel]

which vehicles can be dug in?

[astral nymph]

Arty can

[civic folio]

Iirc the tank has a bulldozer upgrade it can take (i dont have because I only had enough req to buy a basic tank)

[hybrid hazel]

so we can also dig in our arty, assume we dig in all arty, 11 infantry, +the two PAI (they can still benefit from sandbags) + 3 extra dig in trenches for medics and such, thats 10 supply for trenches at least, maybe a bit more. Digging in the arty from engineers will be massively important. then probably some barb wire and tank traps would be of great help

[astral nymph]

Oh, for 1 req point, a logi truck can turn into an immobile FOB, and gets 5 supply, though itsl ost if they mvoe without using it

thats a neat upgrade

YEah just arty, they reomved that option for tansk and ifvs

[hybrid hazel]

does it work like a Fob? is just seems to act as a depot

[astral nymph]

Its just a small depot, but still useful, especially since it 'spawns' 5 supply.

[hybrid hazel]

increases storage

doesn't spawn in more

so a truck that can hold 10 supply can now hold 15

its to increase temp storage

at least I'd assume so, if it generates small supply that would be wild

[astral nymph]

I mean.... It basically gets an extra 5 supply that can only be accessed when it sets up it's little depot. so for all intents and purpsoes, it 'spawns' those 5 in when it sets up.

[hybrid hazel]

nothing says it gets the supply. only that its storage increases to 5 more possible supply

if it really does just get magically 5 more supply that would be very useful but also very out of place

[astral nymph]

"Logi unit is approved to take on more supply than normal" - this implies to me it has the supply to start.
"Logi unit parks and gets out, setting up a temp supply point. Increases supply capacity by 5" - It has the supplies on it but cannot be accessed till set up
"If the unit moves, these are lost" - Implies it does not have access until its set up, and once set up, it cannot repackage and take with it.

So it implies it, for all intents and purposes, spawns in the 5 when it sets up the depot.

They were present before, but inaccessable until set up.

[hybrid hazel]

it says increases capacity so it acts as a storage facility. basically, guys step out and can put 5 supply on the ground

but they don't have it

if they move with extra stored the extra is lost

[astral nymph]

They are approved to take them on. They do have them to start, packaged up. Otherwise you'd be dropped off by whatever is carrying the truck onto the field and they'd be immediately immobilized.

[hybrid hazel]

Added question to Q&A to clarify this

[astral nymph]

Good call, definitely a necessary clarification.

can you link to the Q&A?

[queen tendon]

Don’t make me do it

I’m going to have to

https://tenor.com/view/faq-penguins-of-madagascar-pins-gif-27637533

[astral nymph]

[terse merlin]

A point in favor of speed 1 is enough supply to possibly not need resupply for the whole campaign.

However, once dug in, what the hell to do with all the Hats but go get more supplies anyway?

[hybrid hazel]

Transports? Depending on how the situation arises the mines might be a large region and we may need to be more mobile than just static

If we can get an airfield

[civic folio]

Which, if the HATs are in 1 large BG, they couldnt really do anyways, could they?

[hybrid hazel]

I mean, we are fighting over multiple regions. They might be larger than we expect and still need them to move stuff around

[civic folio]

Strap a tank to the back door with some ratchet straps, boom AC130 overhead 🤣

[terse merlin]

Anyone have an example of a tactical map from a region? Wondering what to expect.

[hybrid hazel]

No intel on that yet

[terse merlin]

A previous campaign example is fine.

[queen tendon]

From last campaign. But this is what one of my submissions looked like

I’m not at home so I can’t get what shack gave us

[civic folio]

That looks super zoomed out, do we not have tokens for our units?

[queen tendon]

There are individual tokens on there

I was just in charge of a BG that spanned the entire map

So mine were exceptionally zoomed out

[astral nymph]

I can post one when I get home, I don't have any saved on my laptop

I had one above linked in here already hold on...

@civic folio here was my Atlas turn 3 from last campaign

[silent glade]

this was second round complete

that we got from shack

[queen tendon]

My maps were probably not the best example tbh. Just because I had to map the entire fucking map

[astral nymph]

And we took that info, and made Turn 3 for my group from that information

[terse merlin]

Is range and speed in grid squares? (And thanks for reposting, a search query of your posts was 285 pages long. 😛 )

[queen tendon]

I did my best to make them legible though :)

1 grid = 1 speed

[astral nymph]

It was for C3, for C2 it was in hexes.

I'm assuming its still square grids.

Its a little odd cause that map is using tabletop sim and its at pretty much maximum size... and it was in inches..... sooooo each grid was 12"

and thats not a base 10 so... when we were using .5 or .25 speed or whatever, made for a pain in the butt....

but thats getting into depth you don't need to know.
1 speed = 1 grid, yeah.

[queen tendon]

I was a freak and measured the squares in pixels so I could measure movement that way

HEY!

It worked well for me

Also for submitting your own orders it’s suggested you include a small snippet of the map with an arrow of where you want to go so that the TCOs can put you exactly where you want

[astral nymph]

if possible, makes it a bit easier.

[terse merlin]

I pretty much like Hexes for tactical because I think it makes diag moves easier to distance.

[astral nymph]

It does, but its fine to just wing it a bit on that. 1 sandbag/trench is enough for 2 infantry spread across, so 12 FS.

[queen tendon]

You can move and face in any orientation you want. The squares are mostly just to give us coordinates

[astral nymph]

Yeah. I actually bent trenches in mine quite a bit. It's fine, so long as it's 12FS worth of distance in a grid square facing roughly the same way.

[queen tendon]

I measured all my arrows in straight lines but I curved them on the map for legibility

[astral nymph]

I was a freak and used base 12 in all my coords and maps. It was painful. I hated it

[queen tendon]

Quick reminder to anyone checking in. Check the pins!

16/56 have voted so far

[civic folio]

So you're saying I should give you 10-digit coordinates for my movements?

[astral nymph]

I didn't need that accurate, just 8 was good enough. 😄

[silent glade]

for some context, this is what i attached to my order for my tac tom

for that round

[queen tendon]

Again, I was doing freak shit

Lmao

[silent glade]

some slightly more up to date order maps from New Braven

[astral nymph]

So jelly you got in that.

Yeah, new Braven was on a hex, but same sysem. 1 speed - 1 hex.

[silent glade]

braven was so gud 😅 i realy didnt expect to get in

[astral nymph]

made this light mech with my req points SPECIFICALLY for that,

oh well, next time. lol

[silent glade]

this time! xD

[chilly bridge]

It was! First time for me playing PAI and it was awesome!

[silent glade]

i was so glad i managed to get some good use out of my at the time freshly bought amphibious upgrade

[silver widget]

Could we add a “Neutral” option for splitting the BG? Basically an option that shows we voted but don’t have a preference either way

[astral nymph]

Sure, just leave it blank

[silver widget]

But I don’t want it to seem like I’m not voting, just that I don’t mind splitting or staying as one

[astral nymph]

Oh mmmm uno momento

Someone added an indifferent option, just copy and paste that cell

added it to all

[silver widget]

Thanks

[astral nymph]

No problem (^.^)

[warm hazel]

This ain't an easy vote to pick a side on

[astral nymph]

Can always vote indifferent 😄

[lean notch]

Yeah

[chilly bridge]

Maybe. Depends on what the Pilots want, but if we're splitting I believe some may stay in the combat BG for CAS and moving troops quickly.

[lean notch]

Do the VTOLs work well for CAS? they dont seem to be great for damage

[astral nymph]

Were not forcing anyone too, it's totally voluntary

[chilly bridge]

Others might join the Logi BG and help there

[astral nymph]

Everyone may vote to split and then only 5 people actually volunteer.
5 is not 8 and it doesn't matter anyways 😄

[lean notch]

theres just so many messages I didnt see if there were any plans for how the VTOLs were to be used, just a lot of talk about logi

[chilly bridge]

They are a great fire support for advancing Inf imo.^^`

[chilly bridge]

There are no definitive plans yet^^

[silent glade]

Vtol can be an asset for close air support on enemy infantry, anything with armour ofcorse they cant do much to help with

[astral nymph]

Were mostly worried about logistics thats all. How exactly VTOLS will be used on the tactical map.... DEPENDS on the tactical map, and we don't have those yet so shrug. Wont know till we get there.

[lean notch]

fair, they looked a little flimsy on paper until they get upgrades like rocket pods

[astral nymph]

They are very handy in CAS against softer targets and extremely useful in maneuvering smaller squads around to flanking/high ground/certain positions.

But yeah, without rocket pods or other equipment, they are not going to damage a tank or super dug in positions alone.

As an example, my BattleGroup last campaign Atlas, took most of it's damage from CAS helicoptors sortieing out from the castle airport we were assaulting.

think we lost 12 fs to helicoptoers over 2 turns.

[lean notch]

Yikes, that is pretty nasty

[astral nymph]

We had a lot of infantry moving in coordinated charges, so damage was spread well enough that we didn't lose any units.

But yeah, CAS VTOLs can be very effective if utilized correctly, and they are very good of getting units in and out of positions for rapid movement/flanking that kind of thing.

[warm hazel]

The issue is I ain't indifferent. I'm torn between both

Though seeing our hats in a Logi group going full speed back to an airport and returning in no time would be cool to see

[astral nymph]

I'm hoping it's not ever needed, I just want it there as option in case it is

[terse merlin]

I used to deal in 16 digits ones. 🙂

[warm hazel]

I get that, I could see us splitting but we would deff need to discuss in depth about the escort

Around say another 8 k messages

[warm hazel]

Our arty units loading rounds

[astral nymph]

Vepleys an adorable idiot. She can carry a whole pallet of arty shells in one go.

[velvet scarab]

Loaded down with arty and full of inf got my truck like

[warm hazel]

I like their hat with the lil bow too

[warm hazel]

The moment one of us gets clipped by a round all of the artillery in the back is going off

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/gfl-gfl2-vepley-vepley-interaction-vepley-heart-gif-2605216970283884521

[warm hazel]

Daw I just noticed the heart, big fan of that on designs. Game looks familiar

[astral nymph]

It's Girls Frontline 2. Vepley is a an adorable idiot with a Vepr-12 shotgun.

[warm hazel]

Oh I think I played the first didn't know there was a 2nd. Will take a look, an adorable idiot is always a good bit

[astral nymph]

2nd one is good, but I only have the bandwidth for 1 gacha atm so I stopped about a month ago

and with Mecha Break coming out in 15 days, that is definitely not changing anytime soon

[warm hazel]

Mecha? 👀

[astral nymph]

MECHA

https://tenor.com/view/alysnes-narukami-luminae-aquila-mecha-break-gif-2234465795962798134

[warm hazel]

Not a hard choice to make mechs beat cute girls with guns any day.

[astral nymph]

The Alsynes, which is the 1st mech you get out of the tutorial.

[warm hazel]

Only thing better is mechs piloted by them

I am gonna get too much use outta that emote

[astral nymph]

Which, is a good mech, no wrong answer in that game.

I CAN make my mecha piloted by a teenager in a school outfit, so 10/10 memes.

Or Char. Whatever you want

https://tenor.com/view/casval-char-aznable-シャアアズナブル-gundam-rising-anime-gif-17679668

[warm hazel]

So a lot like the Everest

[astral nymph]

Alsynes is yeah... kinda like the everest.
Alsynes is a verry good jack of all trades mech but it's best used as melee with its rifle being more side arm then the spear

SO YES exactly like the everest 😄

Everest melee mechs go hard. Such a good core ability.

[warm hazel]

Bahaha the further ya went yeah. God I wanna run another lancer game. Still haven't played in one

[astral nymph]

Alsynes has a halbardm a pulse rifle, and a x3 round railgun cannon.

It's also relatively tanky in that it has an armor form, and if you drop to 0 health, you pop out of the armor form (THINK DVA) and can summon it back. Though it them ahs like a 4 minute cooldown to get that back, which is a loooonger time then you think

[velvet scarab]

Genghis supremacy

[warm hazel]

I don't wanna spoil the NPCs by having my irl players read them or how they work. Keeping them in the dark

[warm hazel]

Oh look there is one of the psycho pilots now

[astral nymph]

baby alsynes gets a sword and a the pulse rifle, also a bit of speed dodge.

but it also pops like a zit, like baby dva

[civic folio]

ive never heard of over 10 digit grid accuracy?..... 10digit is to within a meter, which like the highest that is concisered normal is an 8-digit grid which is within 10 meters

[warm hazel]

Love me some rail guns, any lrm boats?

[warm hazel]

He is quite the nerd is a way to put it

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/mechabreak-sylvieclos-sylvie-clos-stego-gif-8773374654885606440

Yes, the Stego. It's all missile

[warm hazel]

LETS FUCKING GOO

I love clouding the sky

[civic folio]

a 16 digit grid reference to a normal map would (checks math) be like mm accuracy, which is absolutely absurd in a military context

[warm hazel]

Also Jesus that dork in the top left looks so eager for death

[astral nymph]

You are looking at a stego overlooking two other stego's in fixed formation full salvoing

(Being piloted by a mecha vtuber who is a very good mecha break player, cause of course that exists)

[silent glade]

For when you need to measure your location to the micrometer i guess 😅
It could be its in ft or something silly instead of meters, or just a different way of doing it

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-precision-gif-10326423

[civic folio]

i guess lol, im just used to the NATO grid squares lol

[warm hazel]

I could imagine being forced to do it

[warm hazel]

Bahah was worried it was in the game, looked resource intensive for a phone

[silent glade]

It could also be 3 dimensions rather than 2
Im which case you need a bunch more numbers for height

[astral nymph]

Yeah no, shes not in game. Thats a vtuber overlay lol

[civic folio]

like normal everyday grid reference is 8 digit, 8 is what they even use to call in CAS, 10 is VERY use case and rare, i cant imagine needing higher than it when looking at a topographic map

[warm hazel]

Triple lrm dump like that must make the other team not wanna play

[velvet scarab]

"yeah I need you to direct fire at this mote of dust in particular"

[civic folio]

what game is this even?
its not MWO or Armored core?

[warm hazel]

Split this atom

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-nuclear-explosion-bright-lights-awe-amazement-gif-12122506092982397961

[warm hazel]

You see this sub atomic particle?
No sir?
Good

[astral nymph]

This is mechaBreak, a mecha pvp game coming out in 15 days. I played in both betas. Its super fun

[civic folio]

when the Seargenat Major starts himming up motor pool privates for his vehicles not being lined up to 16-digit grid coords

[astral nymph]

theres a .... at least in the beta,
6v6 game mode
3v3 game mode
~30 player, 3 member team, PVPVE battle royal style game mode.

[warm hazel]

Ohohogo

[silent glade]

That sounds entirely possible 😅

[warm hazel]

Fun

[astral nymph]

That was in the beta, There's other stuff coming out I think

[civic folio]

ohhh i saw this at the like games press conference like last weekend i think

[warm hazel]

Looks like a blast

I'm eager to see if there is any support type units

[astral nymph]

Yeah they had their launche date announced at summer games fest and have been doing other hype events and stuff.

[civic folio]

meanwhile the grizzled E5 is in the office with the E4 asking who let the seargeant major know about 16-digit grids

[astral nymph]

There are 2 MAIN support mechs, but almost all the mechs can support othersi n some way.

[civic folio]

thats the one, i couldnt remember the name of the event

[astral nymph]

It is a competetive team game after all -_-'

[warm hazel]

They are all in this together

[astral nymph]

Yeah. I'm super hyped about it. Exaaactly

[civic folio]

i didnt realize it was multiplayer, looked like a single player campaign to me, thats neat tho

[warm hazel]

Time to grind new mech game when it comes out

[astral nymph]

Was not a campaign in the beta outside of the prologue tutorial missions.

NOW THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT NOW

but yeah, total pvp in both betas.

anyways. done with work, heading home and making dinner. Tah tah dwarves

[civic folio]

uh... did we know there is a game called "Dwarf Fortress" that came out in 2022? lol

[silent glade]

Theres a much older dwarf fortress that the 2022 game is based on, is a remake of really

Its like rimworld in even more precise detail, but viewed through the lens of 0 actual artwork, everything is shown by a letter or symbol, even each tile of floor

Great game, horrendously hard to play though

[silent glade]

So yeah i think atleast some of us know xD

[warm hazel]

Any of that 'insert name here to give them free shit' from recommendations?

[queen tendon]

I’m back, was watching a movie. Did I miss anything important?

[civic folio]

we won the war

[queen tendon]

Already? Damn

[warm hazel]

Other than cool mech game talk no

[warm hazel]

Test

Alright discord is hecking up my stuff for messages in meta

[astral nymph]

I'm too stupid to follow what you meant here. 😦

[warm hazel]

Hrm. If we did split what is that proposal? Having all the hats together would make it super fucking fast But we don't have enough aerospace units to make it flyers only

[civic folio]

referal system i think they mean

[warm hazel]

Dummy, good thing I am fluent in dummy to dummy communication. I mean when you have a player recommend you a game so you put them in as a referral so they get something

[astral nymph]

Oooh, it's launching on July 1st so. I dunno.

It might, it is a free2play game so... you know they are going to do memes like that

[warm hazel]

To keep us fast hrm.. maybe the 3 hats. A light vehicle with an Engi team in case of damage and that is 5 players for 4 speed. Logi lowers it to three speed but is easily packed with up to 6 players if we leave no trucks behind. We don't want them with infantry where cargo should be so what armor would be best to have running along side them. Do we fill the remaining ranks with evasion mechs so we are as fast as possible? Leave the remaining forces

Could see 3 hats 1 lv with an Engi team. 5 trucks leaving one behind to help arty and remaining Engi teams. Then pack the remaining 5 slots with mechs to keep us fast and safe

Only issue is the fighters. Do they stay and protect the defenses from being bombed or do they follow the Logi team to protect the empty HATs

[queen tendon]

It’ll be voluntary

We’ll burn that bridge when we get there. I’m almost home so I can take a look soon if we want

[graceful mist]

(If fighters wanted to join the logi side, they’d have an easier time rearming)

[hybrid hazel]

Depending on if we find an airfield or not lol

[warm hazel]

We can always cry and beg for that one Engi to make us an airfield

[queen tendon]

I’d definitely suggest the fighters going with the logi side

[warm hazel]

It is indeed voluntary but unless it is a good setup for being a Logi BG I'm not gonna wanna split off myself.

[civic folio]

id reccomend maybe not all?

[warm hazel]

Stay safe until ya get home

[graceful mist]

I was pinged! Now I don’t feel bad typing in here. Lol.

Keep in mind too that it’s not just the construction with the current version, it’s a LS feed to “activate” the airfield too. Not saying getting one isn’t possible, just a reminder about the current version VS previous.

[civic folio]

dont want to be left without air support and air coverage if we need to do a supply run

[queen tendon]

The point is, if they don’t go with the logi side then you won’t have air support anyways. They get one shot then they can’t rearm until the entire bg leaves

[warm hazel]

You are always free to speak in here. You can't add too many messages to the splatter of chat we already have

That is fair it does need feeding to work

And we have no way to do that without hats running off to collect Medium Supply. Is a HAT able to land at an unsupplyed airfield with the Medium Supply it needs?

If not we have no way to get a medium supply there

[graceful mist]

HVTOL could too…but I think you can land and take off at inactive airfields…you just don’t gain the benefits.

[warm hazel]

Ah thank God the road still functions. I was thinking they just tear the airfield up if there wasn't any feed for it

Do we have an HVTOL in our group? Don't remember seeing one

[graceful mist]

Rugged has to be maintained in order to land…but I don’t think that’s a requirement for the full version.

[graceful mist]

Oh, I misunderstood and thought you meant in general…not specifically y’all’s BG.

[warm hazel]

Ah yeah just trying to keep in mind what we can do without pestering others too much if we don't need to

[sick matrix]

Ok, Pathfinders have enough people now, so I'll hop over there to join the intel guys. Thanks you all, and have fun defending the hill.

[astral nymph]

Have fun Marksman, take care of yourself and best of luck out there

[queen tendon]

Good luck

[queen tendon]

I put all our units on an image

All 55 of us

might toss it in meta comm

[warm hazel]

Jesus Christ

I love it

[queen tendon]

somethings bothering me one sec

better

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-cheerleader-cheerleader-stars-gif-14754210

Best lookingfighting force in ARMCO

[sick matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-raa-gif-14938908953589068603

[night quarry]

A mile long sand bag line with arty pits. We goin to need lots and lots of shovels and picks troopers. Hey Jim, how many more picks and shovels we got that truck?!

[warm hazel]

Hundreds, keep digging

We will strike adamantine in no time

[sick matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/weeeaboo-anime-girl-lol-gif-15788775

[night quarry]

Diggy diggy ho

[warm hazel]

Maybe there is a single medium supply down there

Would instantly refill us all

[indigo willow]

What happened to one of the fighters? I think the call sign was mage. Two fighters ain’t a lot but at least I have one person to fly with.

[warm hazel]

We lost two I believe

We were at four at one point

[indigo willow]

Damn

[warm hazel]

Hey they are still in the war!

Battle buddies forever. But not in our airspace all the time

[indigo willow]

I mean other battle groups probs need fighters more.

[queen tendon]

Mage went to join Victorum

[warm hazel]

I can see the tf's needing them

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-neptunia-hyperdimension-neptunia-anime-waifu-gif-25729066

Yeah we've lost half our fighters to other groups with a more obvious air support wing. (AKA TF's or something more obiously near Flying Shovels or a city)

[civic folio]

what if youre my waifu?? 🤣

[astral nymph]

Great news Clutch. I am WELL AWARE I amtrash

https://tenor.com/view/trash-disappointed-no-sad-bye-gif-13518195

[warm hazel]

Oh god, waifu paints on the vehicles

[terse merlin]

Wow, talk about a blast from the past...

[warm hazel]

The fucking discord took me to Rick and Morty when I hit that to check outta curiosity. God I don't know why that hurt

[terse merlin]

Yeah, not much uses that type of accuracy, not that nothing does. 😉

[wintry swan]

wait

Turtle II 🫡 🐢

[sand whale]

Didn’t realize that the tank names synergiesed so well.

[warm hazel]

We got good arty names too

[queen tendon]

Our bg just looks great in general

[warm hazel]

We rolling

[civic folio]

cause us tankers know what we are doin lol

[soft bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-a-boo-peeking-meme-peeking-i-see-you-watching-you-gif-12003519655647832369

[chilly bridge]

Did we loose another Inf?

[sick matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/baka-idiot-anime-gif-16811539

[astral nymph]

WE lost one, were at 10 now.

[hybrid hazel]

from 12 to 10. but thats okay. we got more IFVs so it works out to increasing our infantry mobility

[snow python]

@dusk prairie was this what you were looking for in Meta-comm?

[minor solar]

Morning yall, how are ya doing

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-gif-22047860

[chilly bridge]

We're switching from mobilized Inf to mechanized? XD

[chilly bridge]

At works soo... fine

[minor solar]

Same

[steady island]

with the amount of air transports we had and still do we are closer to air borne than mechanized but we could do both half air borne hslf mechanized

we have 5 vtols and 3 HATs afterall

[chilly bridge]

It's going to be a mixture as we need to transport our Engis, Medics and the PAI as well. At the same time, I believe that HATs and trucks will focus more on supplies

But still funny, how many transports we have.

[silent glade]

it is funny how mobile our force is considering its original purpose was to dig in at the mine and stay put 😅

[minor solar]

To defend the Mine, we'll have to get to the Mine😂

[chilly bridge]

The best defense is offense?
Or mobile defense?

Somewhat along those lines xD

[chilly bridge]

The farther away we defend the mines, the better xD

[dreamy glade]

gotta be runnin some flanks on them

[queen tendon]

So that whenever we successfully defend the mines (which will happen), we can quickly get our ass somewhere else

I’m back to being awake. If you haven’t already, check the pins :)

[silent glade]

All good points and good benefits, but quite un dwarfy 😅

[queen tendon]

Dwarves can run

[steady island]

as long as we’re digging a hole we are dwarfs

[queen tendon]

Quite quickly too

[chilly bridge]

What do you mean? Heavy Metal is very dwarfen like!

[silent glade]

I cant deny we are gonna dig a hole

We are like dwarf cavalry who decided to bring a fortress worth of big cannons

And an airforce, flying dwarves!

[chilly bridge]

Nomad Dwarfs. We take our fortress whereever it's needed

[minor solar]

This, can we make this a thing

[lean notch]

Please do !

[lean notch]

Pin this too

[chilly bridge]

@kind gyro Hey again, could you pin this as well?^^

[warm hazel]

If you have ever played dwarf fortress you know the moment the militia gets their eyes on an enemy all bets are off. They are charging

[lapis slate]

Urist McMace bites the [lesser god of blood] on the [right toe]

[haughty mauve]

So what has this battle group been up too? Was in the field but now am not so I haven’t been around

[queen tendon]

A lot of talk on logistics, there is a pinned message about a vote we are doing

Still plan on marching and holding the hill, but we are also helping bg Ultra with their push

[silent glade]

Also dont forget

https://tenor.com/view/digging-dig-bury-shovel-hank-hill-gif-3303777070515368946

We have come to dig

[queen tendon]

Currently the vote is 23-1-5, do we want to start discussing the specifics ie who wants to join the logi group vs the combat group?

[lime hamlet]

Hey lads. This is my first time doing something like this but I'm honored to fight along with you. If anyone needs IFV support let me know (Also any advice or support is greatly appreciated. I'm still trying to figure out this system🫡)

[silent glade]

you had any thoughts about which you would TACCOM?

[silent glade]

hello there, it always nice to see another IFV in the field!

[queen tendon]

Welcome! You are always welcome here. I will suggest there are a few other bgs that need folks a little more than us. I know https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1383066706724913293 still need a few to meet the 15 player minimum. If you still wanna hold the mine with us check the pins and sign yourself up

[queen tendon]

I'll let you have first choice, I am cool with either. We don't need to be in the bg itself to map it so if you wanted to be in the combat and map the logi you can

[silent glade]

I think it makes most sense to stick me with the combat side, and you with the logi, i doubt my unit will be flying off with the hats for supply, and idk. I feel more comfortable making that stuff than doing extra logi maths 😅

[astral nymph]

Goood Morning Dwarves

[queen tendon]

Morning Nalla

[silent glade]

ello

[queen tendon]

Sounds good to me

[astral nymph]

Thats a plurality of folks but we can give some more time, its only been like 1day

[queen tendon]

I just know we need to a) let people have time to decide where they want to go and b) let the people in know charge so they can do what they need

[wintry swan]

For fighters it will depend strongly on whether we can get an operational airfield on place within the first 1-2 turns as well as the level of enemy air resistance. I hope to have some actionable into from the spec ops incursion to that end

[queen tendon]

What are you thinking if we get an airfield vs if we can't? Cause I am unsure we will be able to

[astral nymph]

We spend 5 supply, two engineers, and my mechs build point on a flat stretch of road and beg Shack to let us make a "slightly less rugged airfield" wit hRed Detonators spent req pointso n that

:/

[queen tendon]

thats what I feel bad about tbh

people spending req on it when they can't utilize it

[astral nymph]

Can't be used for a LS or depot, but we can at least land the fighters and rearm/repair with our own small supply.

Cause otherwise, the only option is to have an attached orbital

And Shack was pretty adamantely against that as a bad idea, even if its technically possible. Not that we have one of those either.

(and it is a bad idea for this campaign as we need mroe in TF so we can get more BGs down turn 1)

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tyan-girl-red-eyes-grey-hair-gif-440635602884634984

[knotty bramble]

You could have Atlas come and land a freighter with a flight deck right?

[queen tendon]

wouldn't need to land, just be in orbit

issue with us being isolated

[astral nymph]

Yeah, but previous issue of 2 TF (Maybe only 1 wit ha flight deck) and over 10 locations on the map where BGs might be

[knotty bramble]

Either way Pioneer could ease it for you should it be very problematic. Landing just might be good so ground engineers repair and rearm the fighter

[astral nymph]

Which is fine, we'll make do I'm not that upset about it or anything. But I can feel fighter pilots being frustrated.

[graceful mist]

(something I'm trying to address with the 212th in the central push)
(Elim City having an airfield would be useful for y'all's logi branch)

[astral nymph]

I mean yeah, i'll need to look at the ships,we have. But then its like... why not just attach the ship to the BG at that point, if thats going to be it's play.... landing to rearm/repair fighters as a portable flight deck.

which, again, bad move strategiclaly for one thing. I'm just HUMMING AND HAWWING

you can ignore me

[astral nymph]

Cant split off part of the BG to go back to Elim city to repair/rearm

And can't make an aerospace only BG to get around that

not that we have enough

[knotty bramble]

Well limited atmo fuel is the answer + a distinct weakness against artillery fire 😅

[astral nymph]

We'll find out more with the spec ops intel hopefully.

Well if it has landing gear, thats less of an issue.

[graceful mist]

True, but you can add aerospace to a logi branch and send that. At least that's one of the selling points I'm trying to use.
(but I'll leave it at that and let y'all go back to talking amongst your own BG)

[knotty bramble]

Honestly it would probably just sound silly at some point. If it is more optimal for orbital to go to high orbit instead of flying along and then not being able to land in the same turn they started. At least I assume that is a rule that should apply since it is also the case for aerospace

[astral nymph]

No worries, you can do that, but it still means half the game the logistics and fighters are going to be shuffling back and forth on the strat map, not for need of resources (we'll have more then we ever need) but just to reload planes.

Yeah orbital can just stay in high orbit and planes go up end of turn with half speed to rearm and come back with half speed next turn. Thats also doable, BUUUT requires the orbital to be campign over us.... and theres 10 different BGs asking for the same thing from 1 orbital. So same issue with field engineer AF, just mobile. And again, why not just attach orbital to BG at that point :x.

Again. I'm just humming and hawwing, not trying to be a debby downer or anything.

I'm not all that worried one way or another, we'll make something work, all of us.

[queen tendon]

I’m feeling so downered rn

[astral nymph]

Its a monday mood 😄

[queen tendon]

I just wanna hear Gyr’s thoughts. I know he doesn’t wanna go with a task force but I don’t want him to be stuck in limbo all game because he can’t get rearmed

[astral nymph]

I'm hoping we'll get some intel on that wit hthe spec ops team this week before our fighters make that choice.

At the same time, thats really unreasonable because the BGs need HATs but were not being allowed any logistical way for fighter escorts for them.

ya know what. whers the FAQ

added...

[warm hazel]

Huh

Lots to think about

[queen tendon]

If it’s cool with everyone I might just add another column to the sheet just like “Which group do you wanna go with”

Just to see everyone’s general ideas

[hybrid hazel]

That’ll help to see if we even have enough willing to split

[queen tendon]

I don’t think we need to split half and half. We need some logi units to keep our combat folks up

[hybrid hazel]

Still need minimum of 15

[queen tendon]

Correct

[wintry swan]

This would be a good stopgap if permitted by shack

[wintry swan]

If we get an airfield, stay with combat group. Otherwise, join logi group if it's the only possible way to rearm

Strategically there need to be viable options for ground based battle groups to have organic air wings rather than the current system which heavily incentives all fighters and bombers to attach to an orbital

[queen tendon]

Okay, I added the column to the sheet. Not somehting to note, this isn't permanent, you can change your mind up until the point that the campaign starts (again assuming enough people are interested in joining the logi side)

[queen tendon]

Sounds good. We’ll do our best to accommodate you guys. We need your protection lmao

[silent glade]

all this 'split' (its just organising ourselves properly) really changes is that we get to be a bit more flexible overall and who you send your orders to, seems like a good plan and i hope we get everyones replies about it 😅

[dreamy glade]

I'm sorry, what dies the turn in tab on the Google sheet mean. I know what the last tab means but not the turn in one.

[queen tendon]

I believe that its referring to your orders, if you have turned that in or not

[dreamy glade]

Ah makes sense. Just got confused by the logistics and combat options.

[queen tendon]

oh oops

that was my bad, I broke it

thats supposed to be yes/no

I fixed it

[night quarry]

"Plays Guns and Roses Welcome to the Jungle while stocking up on supplies."

[astral nymph]

Yeah, thats jsut a tracker so each turn, I could check to see who has a turn in or not

[queen tendon]

More intel! soon™️

[lime hamlet]

It's just in the spreadsheet right? Can't edit it on my phone because I'm at work but once my shift ends I'll put myself into the combat group unless someone could do that for me. I feel IFVs are needed to give troops that extra mobility but I'm new so that information is subject to change lol

[knotty bramble]

The SpecOps are reporting stuff right now in B3 comm

[frank grotto]

fun stuff

[hybrid hazel]

Sounds like the first wave is going to be jumping straight into combat

[frank grotto]

that is exactly how we like it. call that a target rich environment

[queen tendon]

yup, if you want I can add you or it can wait. I'd just need your callsign

[queen spear]

You guys have your targets

Expect decent resistance

[hybrid hazel]

He’s on the spread just need to be put on the combat group. I’m on mobile currently so I’ll also update mine next chance I get
-# 8888th message lol

[astral nymph]

The horns of war sound!

We will have our fight!

[hybrid hazel]

Sounds like hills will be contested and rocket arty coming from the east which means they have long range arty potentially

That’s not fun

[queen tendon]

disagree

thats the most fun

[hybrid hazel]

Chilling in the mine trenches as rockets fall on our heads from outta region

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/(screams)-person-human-belt-accessories-gif-4234349545405154062

Me when my tank gets attacked by rocket Arty from another region map

[queen tendon]

They landed in Elim, there is no easter. It's likely isolated to that map

[hybrid hazel]

Definitely going to be a tough fight boys

[queen tendon]

for 5 req, we knew it was coming

[hybrid hazel]

And I’m just a stock infantry squad so AAAAA

[astral nymph]

SHARE SHARE SHARE SHARE

https://tenor.com/view/excited-mech-oh-boy-jumping-front-mission-gif-4939368

[silent glade]

😅

[queen spear]

God bless you infantry squads because you’ll be fighting an uphill battle. All enemy infantry so far has been identified as being at least lightly armored with 2-3 FS each

[hybrid hazel]

Enemy troops sound to be low in FS so likely more armoured, and have long ranged artillery.

[silent glade]

Tbh i am hyped for ANY information

[civic folio]

Hey, super destroyer, yeah, that guy right there

[hybrid hazel]

Hope we get intel on airfields soon

If at all

[astral nymph]

WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

https://tenor.com/view/panic-anime-shookt-shocked-gif-10583115

[hybrid hazel]

BG 3 chat

[queen tendon]

its in storm blessed rn

[queen spear]

Yeah the spec vtol guys are in BG3 but we will get more specifics in the mid rounds. They are done sharing for now

[civic folio]

"XO!"
"Yes sir?"
"Why have my men been told intel before me?"
"I dont know sir."
"We should do something about that"
"Agreed sir."

[queen tendon]

thats the majority of it

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-girl-letsgo-lets-go-let's-go-gif-16728997050260142160

[hybrid hazel]

Hopefully we get more intel in the near future

[silent glade]

Tbh its great intel already, some good little clues

[astral nymph]

I am grinning from ear to ear, ohmygod I am DESPERATE for more lol

[queen spear]

We will hopefully get some shiny new maps with the mid round announcement

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-marin-gif-15965446965513364609

[hybrid hazel]

Can’t wait to use my stubber rifles against armoured robot infantry while hiding in a trench and hoping I don’t get hit by rocket arty

Lol

[honest quail]

wait so some unknown hostile force is attacking a freighter a few hexes outside the lussan gate, probably bots?

"2 Black hulled fighters with glowing red systems are strafing the craft. "

sounds like bots tbh

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/call-police-calling-call-spongebob-patrick-star-gif-14250970

[silent glade]

👀

[queen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[hybrid hazel]

Sounds like some bot orbitals and aerospace craft

[astral nymph]

Looks like there's civies trying to leave through the gate and getting chased.

Sounds like our battleship TF is going to get stuck in clearing a route for the rest of us

[hybrid hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-infinity-nofucksgiven-crash-spaceship-gif-7235273

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/hyperspace-hello-hello-there-hello-chat-hi-gif-10699448246245576288

How i hope it goes with us showing up

[hybrid hazel]

How I’m hoping it looks as Our task forces appear

Lmao

Same brain cell

[civic folio]

Litterally

[honest quail]

so that implies the bots got this far?

[hybrid hazel]

The planet is nearly encircled. Definitely going to be a fight for every mile I feel

[frank grotto]

at least because they are also in the cities

[astral nymph]

Yes, Bots got that far. There is 1 bot frigate providing fire control over Elim city which is contested.

[honest quail]

We might end up fighting over Hill Mine afterall.

[astral nymph]

Most definitely

https://tenor.com/view/ironfoot-ring-pig-swine-charge-gif-22227628

[honest quail]

wait when did we learn this

[dreamy glade]

We don't have orbitals to deploy right?

So those civilian ships might come in handy

[honest quail]

Not our force, we're a battlegroup. We do have two orbital task forces though.

[astral nymph]

It's not in midrounds yet, but the spec ops team is in BG 3 and they leaked results in their channel

[hybrid hazel]

I think region crossing mobility is no longer a big concern

[honest quail]

Oh cool.

[honest quail]

Yeah we'll definitely need them to get planetside (once we've established orbital control)

This'll be a slog to get from one end of the planet to the other.

[astral nymph]

Spec ops team is with local law enforcement contesting Elim city.
Gonna be a super slog for sure

[hybrid hazel]

That’s badass

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-live4ever-starship-troopers-gif-23699089

[frank grotto]

NO. I WANT TO LIVE FOR ARMCO

FOR DEMOCRACY

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gmod-dropkick-automaton-meme-gif-10332033299819172774

[minor solar]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-begins-raining-rainy-day-théoden-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16521230

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/horn-horn-of-erebor-lord-of-the-rings-gif-19365433

[minor solar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-dwarf-and-im-digging-a-hole-diggy-diggy-hole-dwarves-the-hobbit-gif-7902188807612666630

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-sprinter-gimli-lord-of-the-rings-sprinters-gif-16266442

Us getting to the hill

[honest quail]

so we have allied forces going to the rock station

probably the mining company HQ

[astral nymph]

Yeah, seems like it, some AI fleet. we'll need to relieve them and by we, not us. 😄

Lunaris defense system seeing that question from armco like