#Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms
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Oh our arty is AA
My sentiment as well, loved making those maps lmao
lolol depends what were using this time around. It was Tabletop Sim last time which was not all that difficult.
We have 3 fighters aaaand I think we have someone who has aa missiles
We have 3 fighter jets 😄
You would think I am joking but someone did the math and it has a high chance of one tapping an orbi even
Its mainly 2D, right?
Oh and 2 AA fighter jets in particular
Arty is anti orbital. Not AA
yeah that was me
Ah my bad then
It is 2D yes.
The two AA fighters have got me feeling real safe
We have 3 aa fighters now
2 with missiles I don’t think the third does
We might could look at Foundry VTT if anyone has it. I use it all the time for Pathfinder and absolutely love it
Oh good lord what
I would have liked to have a ground based AA but we'll do what we must.
A third with the AA upgrade?!
again our problem is they can't rearm and I don't want to promise them they can do their thing and have fun for however many weeks this will be if we can't confirm they can be supplied
Foundry VTT is awesome
6000 messages, you guys planning the whole invasion or something?
Axx, do you and Swenfields want Tac-com Prtimary? I only ask as I will be gone for 2 weeks, which is a significant amount of time.
yes
Good fucking lord our man power list
sounds good to me
10 inf and 2 power armor alone
works for me
Alright, i will happily backup for you two and assist
I keep looking at our armor but forgot we have 66 dudes
I think only 1 infantry squad we have actually has a heavy weapon lol
No we are only taking a hill
Our first objective is taking the hill
The coolest most based hill
Yeah after that we'll adapt as needed.
But by God is that hill gonna be ours
Can I join in on the TacComm stuff to just be an observer and see how its done, like shadowing, that way next campaign if one is needed I can step up
Yeah I'd love to get a peak at how y'all do it
Tac-com stuff is all handled here in this chat so feel free too. Only exception would be if we use tabletop sim but I'm not totally sure how were handling the map this time around. Strategic Map is definitely a png file 😄
The most meticulous and detailed plan to secure this hill, at least our northern flank will be in good hands, wish you all good luck 
i tend to do map stuff directly on an image of the map, i dont curently have a vtt so unless i get one i wont be using that xD
Last campaign it was: you can peak into the TAC-COM chat, just don't clog it up if you're not one
Also, just be fair warned, my MBT is as barebones as it gets, had enough Req to get it but no upgrades
Huh I can't seem to upload Atlas turn 3 here. i'll do it to imgur and post
If you ever get a PC based VTT I do recommend foundry. Little pricey but one time pay no subscription BS and it’s self hosted (has mods and can use html and shit to make your own)
Only way I run D&D online
Foundry is awesome for DnD. But I enjoyed paint net for my maps for this. I can grab some of mine once my pc reboots
I used tabletop sim to put the actions down and then notecards to put some explanations
I was meming a bit, it was fun
I just looked at the other bg chats. We are so far ahead of them in terms of messaging. Which fits. Dwarves are loud and boisterous.
I got 6 dudes with guns, not even a knife between them. I think you’re good lol
Just one crazy mech pilot somehow not dieing
Oh this is gonna be fun
They tried, they just rolled 6 ones and missed every shot.
Was a crazy move by turtle, but i cant deny it worked xD
More than twice the next leading chat
Don’t we have turtle II this campaign?
We do.
With 5 arty and 5 trucks dedicated to reloading them I am sure it will be hell to take it from us
yes ;)
So we can’t lose
I hope I can steal some pickaxes for melee weapons
Group of three buddies who accidentally ordered an old cannon instead of the grill they wanted.
THE LEGEND
Have you just been lurking, waiting for someone to mention you?
Just a very fancy grill. Gotta fire a few rounds first
lurking yes, waiting no
well, glad to have you
Welcome to the party
When life gives you an artillery cannon, make some burgers
I am so eager to see these 5 arty setup
We are probably capped, understandably so. Throw it in imagur or another hosting site and then link it
This pleases the machine spirits
Multiply the troops by 10. We have so much man power it is SILLY
it's a discord issue, cant do it in other servers either
66 guns on the ground
Nothing wrong with a lotta infantry
infantry is the core of this system
The rest of the squad hyping you up
A truer statement has not been said. Nothing gets done without them and they are definitely the most versatile unit
Do we have many IFVs
Only 2
We have 2... which is... fine
We would be pretty fricked without them and heaven we have so many engineers
A total of, 2
But we have 5 VTOLs
Gonna build us a castle
We both got some nice upgrades tho
Looks like we are going old-school WW2 tactics lol
Actually with all of those VTOLs and infantry
IFVs coming in clutch
VTOLs are the most important unit but infantry is a close second
The 2 we have are very elite veterans though. Most upgraded units we have
Hence why I want like 6 flight decks for a ship for them
Coming in WHO?
How else do you get your clutch to not stick?
I feel like that solution is the cause of the problem, not the solution lol

Oh discord appears to be having a stroke right now, so if we all suddenly drop for a bit, it was an honor and a privledge.
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Friendly reminder to activate your unit for campaign 5, don't want you to miss out on rewards after all this planning.
ohhhhh
Welcome to the mines friends. Wer're digging deep and taking robot skulls
We have a sign up sheet roster thingy here! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1muZ6eUbGh9T1X2CKXfxRDQA4mMZOh2mHMVg0AuL7Xe8/edit?gid=2109992944#gid=2109992944
And i want my bot scalps!
Put your name down on the vehicles section, if you cant, let me know and I'll add you.
FULL DISCLOSURE, we do not have transport to the surface in the first wave (80-90% of the BGs do not) so we will be arriving with the BULK of the army once EMIL is taken.
All of they arty firing on the same spot to dig a deeper trench for the engineers
do we have a list of all our commanders?
(our TAC COMs and others involved with OP organization)
well I shouldnt call them commanders but yk what I mean
UH
Primaryish: Axx and Swenfield
Backups: Chester, Myself, and I am sure I am forgetting someone
thanks, will add to doc
Im just observing
also holy shit there are now 10 battlegroups?
umm. WE HAVE 50!!!!
and a second task force
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THIS CAMPAIGN
Evening. Have we solved our orbital problem?
im askign sam
Will probably be more than 500, accounting for ship crews.
as in how we get planetside?
Jep.
we probably wont go in on a TF last I checked
we'll go in a week late (1 turn late) with everybody else
All right. Thanks.
Stars is back up as well^^
Probably have to wait until spaceport tbh.
80-90% of the BGs dont have a way to get landfall before that
not enough room on orbitals to take us all
will add ty
yeah, the people we need there first are the ones in the planetary south and at ziyal city
we can afford to wait a turn
No worries 😄
yup
Victorum: 22
Atlas: 12
Fluffle: 5
Rabbit: 36
Venator: 57
Storm Blessed: 33
Dwarf Fortress: 50
Redwall: 36
Spearhead: 44
Ultra: 23
Phalanx: 17
Flying Shovel: 22
impressive
So were pretty much heavy vehicles?
Did you find them? ^^°
We are a good spread tbh
20 infantry type units, 12 logi vehicles, 28 combat vehicles including
4x MBT
5x Arty
5x Engie
10x Infantry
there @ is @reef merlin if you still need it
Not to include support and logi
@reef merlin
?
Oh, I didn't
That's a silent ping
The thing you tried
But, i already added them to the sheet^^
silent ping? do explain
If you put <> around the @ number, it will ping their name, but they won't receive an actual ping.
Did it work?
nope lmao
lol
Well, it highlights the post, but doesn't ping me. Which is what a silent ping is meant to do^^
No worries^^

who died?
None of us are gonna be able to deploy. Dwarf BG all found drunk and passed out in the hanger
When we roll off the NPC ships on the second wave it’s just a bunch of guys stumbling out of the hangers, smelling of liquor.
Oh god, engineers open up the supply crates but 80 of the 96 supply ends up being crates of booze
We planned to dig and drink
and the rest of the crates are picks and shovels XD
We are now a mining company
Mining union forms turn 2
Maybe next time when I have the Reqs I’ll be medical corps and make a Tavern field hospital
Deliver booze to the front lines to heal our hard working soldiers and workers
I want the camp upgrade for the truck to just power reload artillery around me
You could also become the heavier variant with double capacity
I see I was pinged, sorry I haven't been around much, what is the current going abouts here?
You can’t tow anything but you’ll carry like 20 supply
Wasn't meant as a ping. Just to get your name for a list of Back-Up TacComs^^
The double capacity goes really hard. And being able to handle medium supply from a hat drop
Sorry for that^^
But I'm still quite likely to just buy a ship
Ahh, makes sense. No worries, just didn't know if I was needed for something or if there was a major plan shift.
You could also add various other upgrades on top of that. I think 22 supply is the theoretical max. Unless you carry 6 engineers. Than it’s like what, 26 supply with all upgrades?
Nah, nothing the like. Just us collecting who's Taccom^^
It does sound fun but a carrier Orbi or several troop deployment orbis might be the gimmick
Then get the medic corps to add medical evac upgrade to it and you can also carry a medic squad for free
True
Just the thought of a overloaded transport truck carrying way over its limit of supplies is fun to me
If you abandon something you bring to tow, it’s still there right it doesn’t disappear?
Wait you can still apply the logical surplus to a heavy logistics truck. So you could with a parked logistics truck without stacking engineers could be a depot for arty with 27 supply I think
Unless doubling storage also doubles the surplus
You can also hold a medium supply and that is inf. Small supply
Medium supply is consumed at specific locations to produce limitless small supply but for only a round or two I think
But if you had the infrastructure and doubled up carry capacity you could carry in two medium supply
With the upgrades
So drop off medium supply and reload truck with small lol
Quite hilarious that you could do that
I agree. If you really want to be funny about it. You could get a FOB built with medium supply storage, store one and use the other, and with other vehicles with logistical surplus store a lot of the supply right next to it to be readily used. Do this right next to a bunch of arty
And do this after engineers build up a bunch of defences so they could restock in full also
If we can talk that one dork into the strat map over arty then we could rain hell
Maybe if we get heavy arty in the future
That can shoot that far lol
Could also set this up next to an airfield for more storage and to restock aircraft
alright inputed my unit information
With how the supply system works capacity seems to be very important to use the most out of it
Welcome aboard
And we have no way to carry medium supply either
It’s hypothetical for the future lol
Gotta milk cap as much as ya can as a reload fills to max
🫡 just a standard light mech though
To be fair though I think an aircraft could carry in way more medium supply (even with a temp airfield and rugged)
And we’re still all the better to have you
Never enough. Happy to have ya
Still helpfull
I just got stock infantry. The best I can do is dig myself into a hole lol
How deep a medium supply goes with its light supply
Considering we’re backpacking most of our resources in, if we had one medium supply and a way to distribute it it would be a massive supply modifier for us
So hopefully we can find a place to capture that can act as a distribution centre and we find a way to get some medium supply in
what the plan for this bg?
Hill!
The hill
Rock and stone in the hill I hear
We're Rich!!
Rock and stone you say? In the hill you say?
Yeahg
When she rock on my stone until we're rich
Yeah were taking Hill Mine and the north road.... and then ADAPT as needed after that.
Imagine, 10 super credit drop could be there
You know, I wonder if the bots have factories we could hijack
Supply them ourselves
Build our own droid army
We would make dwarf miner bots
Core out the planet with rampant mining activity by turn 8
Accidentally dig to deep in our greed
I need the blue cotton candy
Too deep? Idk what you mean?
We’ll get a new pet
nah, we'll get a new lava miner. He'd be a great smelter or forger.
We got another squad of infantry (Our logistics AAAA)
and a light mech.
Light mechs are fast is no stress
But now we got more infantry to carry (not saying it’s a bad thing but now we can carry in less supply)
To bad people can’t ride on top of tanks
That would save us a lot of troop carry space
If you have excess infantry Phalanx is always recruiting and I’m sure Ultra would happily take more forces as well😝
Well we got 11 squads and 2 PAI lol
3 medics and 5 engineers I think also?
We need just one more truck. Just one more. Lol
always need one more truck
You guys have like all the trucks🤣
You did also take all the arty refugees though so I respect it
The fact we keep having more man power join us is hilarious
Do we know what city we are gonna land at to deploy our forces before heading to Hill Mine?
And yeah we needed all the trucks to move and supply arty rounds
No real options besides Elim. That’s where everyone is going to deploy and form our beachhead
Literally had to bribe a friend to join knowing they would take one look at the truck class and refuse to play anything else first
I don’t think we did, I just hopeful we get more troop carry capacity / supply capacity lol
Even a single IFV would be great
I think we all are learning fairly quickly how useful IFV’s are. Really solid infantry transport unit and not nearly enough to go around right now
Ok so good heavens our unit list
11 infantry is a lot lol
5 arty 5 trucks 4 mechs 4 tanks 5 vtols and 2IFV 2Hats and a light vehicle
What the frick
Beautiful
What a spread
We got mobile forces and infantry, good support and balanced air
Biggest holdback is we dont have a lot of advanced engineers or medics or transports
We are just not upgraded
But that’s just the reality of being mostly stock
No one really is
We a literal utility knife with arty
We do have a few heavily kitted vets
But that isn't our engineering
We’re an actual combined force (and combined arms is badass)
Combined arms be like
Precisely
I think we’ll do well. We just gotta plan our logistics
Out of everyone this would be the CA battle group id say
So hopefully we get some ways to up our capacity soon
We got a sick QRF, and iron wall of tanks, and us the CA
Just one more truck. Always just one more truck
Cause if we take on anymore foot troops our logistics are going to struggle more
One more truck would fix us
I actually think one more truck or a Hat full of supplies would be a god send lol
Watch as one truck dies instantly and our BG grinds to a halt at speed 1
Let’s hope that doesn’t happen lol
:(
Damn I feel I should have gone something else other than infantry at this point lol
Oh well
6 guns is 6 guns
6 guns, a trench and a dream
Infantry is a good unit that we need a lot of. At the moment we just don’t have a ton of ways to transport them for every group
True. I’m lucky my buddy is playing vtol so I’m a package deal
So I won’t be a mobility hinderance
Achoo
Also
Just saw the patch on the sheet, love it
Hello, would you have need of a medic/how many do you have?
I think we have 3 medics, more isn’t bad but we’re trying to figure out how to move everyone lol
Perhaps check with other groups a lot of people need more foot troops and support
Not denying you, just got a lot here already and other groups need some love also
i cant even attempt to keep up anymore
Three-ish is a good number, So far you have (potentially) the most out of both I have checked.
Always welcome at Ultra or Phalanx! Both ground forces that should be accepting most people
weve got the second largest crew, so we are trying to balance everything out a bit
Could I get a confirmation on the number of medics? I wouldn't to join elsewhere when you really only have one.
We have at least 3
Then perhaps, you would need an even larger group of medics...
Alright, thank you. I shall continue searching.
Good luck!
We plan to operate with ultra maybe check in with them!
Yeah we have a lot of units. I don't wanna turn people away but other BGs really need some of the special type units more than us
hows it going i dipped out for a bit for some helldives
We trying to figure out how to transport more people and some people are trying to redirect more arty to us lol
although... maybe i should be playing deep rock too 🤔
Literally no one else has support for arty is the problem😅
hey i dont mind having a hilarious amount of arty, but other people might want SOME XD
How else are we to dig holes from a distance?
For some reason people trying to give us arty. I suggested to a medic to join those who have none cause we already got three
we do not need more arty
Unless we somehow get another truck I agree
We need more transport capability ideally
We need another truck, the 11th infantry squad we picked up is getting a bit much also for that
Even 1 more ifv would be nice
I mean.... we could ALWAYS use more... need is a strong word... but would probably be unfair to take more in if other BGs are struggling to fill the role
Ok but hear me out. A sixth truck for the new arty
We are already the 2nd biggest group. Lets not turn anyone away but I'd suggest looking at other task groups.
Thats fair clutch, very true
I think new arty should spread out to other groups more
On the topic of transport. The supply stuff on the sheet will update as we gain and lose people btw
I saw that, very cool
Hopefully as the date draws closer things will even out
I’ll do a manual count also before hand since I sometimes find funny ways to stack stuff
I don't wanna take units away from other BGs that need em
It might feel bad but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with turning people away for one reason or another
Exactly
I think unless we gain more transport capacity we cannot accept any new arty or infantry
Agreed. As much as I want more people. We are kinda the black hole since we are currently the biggest aside from the tank line that is venator. So people gravitate towards us first
Except maybe 1 more engineer they can stack supply funny
Yeah we need to slow down on anyone new and try to direct them elsewhere I think
I didn't even realize how big this BG was when I first showed interest lol
It just kind of happens before you know it
We got 52 people
When I first showed interest it was as Nalla and I lmao
And our plan is ideally minimum 2 speed while packed up
So any new people either hit supply or movement ability half the time
53*
Had a light mech swoop in after me
Ah they’re not on the sheet yet lol
Lmk what your count on supplies is btw. I could only program the sheet to be so smart.
If it was a webpage it would’ve been so much easier
Wait. You're right, 52, there was a blank slot that I was accidentally counting on the roster
Believe it or not, people are a lot better at thinking than computers
Google sheets can be insanely smart... its just a matter of knowing the formulas and formatting
I’m a lot better at programming than sheets. It’s certainly a different skill
I could see us giving up all our VTOL and an infantry company to that one QRF team but I doubt they would have space on the orbi for them. We are a very stacked force and covering several areas. I think we are gonna be pretty safe working together
I’ll check to see an optimal supply fit here shortly
Hey I’m buddies with a vtol me and him ain’t leaving lol
Catch a Riiiide!
Of course! I don't wanna lose any of our units
Got two other trucks and a MBT I'm buddies with I'd rather not see go poof
I’m also buddies with a VTOL (it’s me) and me and him aren’t leaving
Id rather we not lose any VTOLs. Was just saying that we are so big we could end up shaving off an entire chunk from any portion of us and still be a large force.
Its not giving, its their choice. we are well away from starting yet and movement is allowed. Your not married to one place. (Even if were the coolest and have the best booze)
Of course
Oh.... stops in door way with box in hand what do you mean we arent married?
Man why do we talk so much for a group trying to take a hill
Kid named Anullemnt:
Our BG chat vs the next most active
Lol
Logi truck enthusiast spotted
Nope not at all...
going over things and if we had one more engineer funny enough I could fit in things much more nicely for troop transport and supply
9 x 4 for support teams would be 36 which can be broken around without any wasted space, since each slot for transport is size 6
I have found where I am needed, Battlegroup one had no medics. A safe and swift deployment for you all. o7
rock and stone brother
Don't forget me please xD
Now compare that with the maximum message count last campaign
I wonder when Shack sees the number o.o
Joining up
Rock and stone brother
You were number three 
(I think)
Let's go!! New brother ⛏️
We basically showed up at the same time xD
welcome, still an arty?
Nice, we now have a small lance of Mechs
Speed 1 ahoy
I actually don't think its logical for us to take on more arty without another truck considering we are hording so many already and it would slow us down significantly
Oh it isn't logical but we ain't denying anyone right?
we're having our transit speed halved
Besides 6 arty is still funny
earlier we discussed we'd encourage arty and infantry to join others who need it more
Having 6 trucks would make it funny
we'd need a 6th truck to even be logically operational
6 trucks would fix me...
We tried I thought in meta. I still highly suggest checking out any other group first. An God I would love a 6th truck
trucks always gud
6 arty 6 trucks
You know what would be funnier?
7 trucks
Lets not go too hard. Other BGs need arty as well
Ok but think about the funny factor
hey cursed, we're happy to have you but if you're still artillery we're not sure how to support you without an additional truck with how we plan to move and our already shrinking supply cap
Just gotta pray they make that strat map sized arty refit
I think 6 is pretty decent. 7 arty takes more supplies
But, now we need another truck....
as I currently count we'll loosely have 60 supply, 10 arty supply and 20 engineer supply
We can just pack the arty into a back of a truck, takes supply space
im sure we can find a truck somwhere
Always just one more truck away from perfection
i wish but i dont think so xD
can we do that?
I thought that would require a crane or something
Was just about to say swen said we couldn't
and a heavier truck
We were there, but then another arty showed up! ... someone create me a dinkelberg meme with arty instead xD
they count as a vehicle and you cant put vehicles onto a logi truck
You can
I think I’ll swap the sheet to prefer using truck space for vehicles so we can get a more accurate travel (assuming no airport where we are going)
we'd need a heavier logistics truck I think
imma go check over these rules again lol
holy they can transport a single vehicle
I swear at least I thought I read that
but as of my current count none of the trucks are even transporting supplies
Oh lol
Alright then I was right! I was worried for a sec
put the tanks on trucks!
and no supplies to fire them
Just hat drop the trucks full of cargo
While the other battle groups 'wait' for turn 2, we already playing inventory space games. 🤣
I'm having fun already reading this.
Everyone can walk
Do you guys have any space for a bomber?
Thinking the HLOGI would be a 1986 Oshkosh?
at this point why not just have everyone walk and load up the trucks and everything as full as we can
We don't have a Bomber yet
Frankly not really but we won't turn away anyone
But that as well
My gut is starting to hurt from chuckling at the thought of this
not sure on our ability to rearm aircraft
We need an orbi to rearm then
but we'll try to capture an airfield if possible
if we had a single orbital none of our logistical concerns would be that big lol
GOD That would be such an amazing setup.
We can have light mechs/vehicles screen the front while the rest of us double times. Doable. Not sure how that translates to world map travel speed.
One day I'll be able to supply the dwarfs
we could do double time as others screen. Vtols in reserve for quick response forces
As long as one of the veteran engi has the air field upgrade
i can see a big benefit to a small orbi thats just cargo and landing strip to attach to BG's and supply their airforce
so unless we capture one or someone else build us one
There's like 1 engi in all of armco rn that can do that
A logi orbi?
Arty is all I got to play. And this group or a different group its the same issue as I dont have a truck buddy to bring with me anywhere
we cannot resupply our aircraft
if push really comes to shove we can stick you in a back of a truck and cope with less supplies.
sad tanks can't just tow arty
We need to ask that engi very nicely to help supply the absolute resource dump 6 arty will be
lol
Hey cursed! hope you got a good tan on beach day!
Well, I won't push you guy with anything, I might have an idea elsewhere
yeah, there is only one refitted engineer who also has the airfield contruction lol
Ok?
Can that one engineer fast teach the other 4 engineers how to airfield?
Maybe try other BGs first, yeah. If nothing works out, we won't say no^^
we actually have no idea what our engineers have
I wish
only two are vets and the other didn't indicate any refits or anything yet
One has temp airfield I think, and that may be it
im sure we can wrangle another truck, or chuck you in the back of one we have
The one Engineer Vet I know and worked well with hasn't gotten back to me.^^
And afaik they haven't used their req yet
if we can get one more truck our supplies and arty movement will be solid. also, I just realized, if infantry just double time we can still move at two speed right?
assuming we get infantry to do that we could carry a lot more supply
Yep
God
maybe we just running on foot alongside overfilled trucks
Yeah, but the crew tagging along this time is different. Got some real action so of course the LT is actually showing up.
I did in a beginner mission
I'll do a quick count on that supply would look like in that scenario a bit better (if we're also packing an artillery in the back of one truck)
"sorry pvt. you gotta run alongside the convoy, we had to load up the arty"
If I had the RP I'd jump on the upgrade to start with 6 supply instead of 2 which would fix some of the supply issue arty side
begins trawling the meta campaign statistics channel for veteran engies with rec to spend 😅
We have so much infantry too. Thank God we are bringing so much supply to heal them
If Alomga would respond....
is the plan to transport the majority of the supply in the HATs or the Trucks?
if we make every supply potential carry vehicle only carry supply thats 101 flat supply (light carries 1) 20 from engineers and 12 from arty for a complete total of 133 supply
I think this fits the armored wall of 14 mbts more
thats if we shove 1 arty in a back of a truck also
Vtols and hats I think?
And trucks tow/cary arty and inf?
Vtols and hats, trucks for troops (with how I currently laid it out)
I'm still holding out hope that we'll find an airfield to use, or that Beards can build one for us, or that an orbital will hover above us for resupply
we have options
@round osprey I say we should take a bomber, because we have 3 fighters that can provide escort and that we'll have to account for rearming anyway
that sounds like a good amount of supply ngl
Well if we look at the strat map why do we need to worry about going speed 2 as a battle group at the start? The mine is one tile away
We should be able to get away with speed 1 at the start right?
we can determine this once our finalized composition is determined
Of course, and by then we should have burned some resources
and how things look just before we drop in
frankly we're waiting for more intel before we draw up TAC plans
Yeah we still know very little
as of the moment we're just trying to set up a comp that works for our desired doctrine (minimum 2 speed for main force with decent supply reserves for fortifications and artillery)
since as far as we know, we backpacking our supplies in and may not get resupplied as readily as we may like
All I know is "let me on the ground and let me at'em!"
I think the reason we have more than twice the chat logs of other groups is simply us trying to figure out how to move our fat ass from point a to b
yeah, we want to carry as much as we can without being a complete snail lol
because we have a lot to move
Speed 2 with cargo is the hope
is the hope. if we have to force march though thats a possibility
Well now all I can think of is the forever death snail that follows you
I'd put him in a jar and take him on adventures, boom snail problem solved
Until it slowly untwists the lid while you're asleep lol
Fool, it was a decoy snail
We're going to need a logistical support BG that we shall call either Contracted Burglars.
At least we have the supply to feed the troops
Loctite
Hah well I plan on forming a Logi taskforce after this war
true. force march with vehicles full (and an arty in a back) gives us flat 101 supply while loaded up infantry at the moment its 60. (12 from arty and 20 from engineers counted seperately for this)
Also as we go on the adventures we become friends. And then once I've been immortal for a billion or so years or if I'm just I smash the jar and touch him, killing myself
And each round assuming medics engineers and arty all consume at least one would probably put us at around 13 supply drain a round if they are all being used?
Is it a supply to fully rest- fuck yes
and they have 4 I think
so 1 supply = 4 turns of healing
I think thats how it maths out
Very good. So every 4 medics would be 1 supply a round instead
If they are all working
if they're actively healing non stop yes
medics staying supplied is relatively cheap compared to artillery and building up a lot of defences
as far as I can tell
Just trying to figure out if we're actually utilizing everything how fast we would burn our stock. It seems we could go hot for 10 or so rounds without restock and that is comforting
ideally yes, unless you also account vehicle repairs and unforseen BS lol
and the more supply we have the more barby wire and shells we can drop lol
so what will i be doing as part of the light mech lance than? vanguard action?
forward screening and response likely. if each region is a full battle map we might be operating over a decently sized area
also, we are likely to be engaged in combat to take ground, so infantry with tanks and mechs will be useful to take ground
so vanguard action, try not to get hit by a bush tank
Likely yes. also light mechs have options to avoid getting hit right?
Having a mech near a Logi truck keeps it safe. Attacks would prioritize the mech and the mech is a bastard to hit
yeah they got evasive, and they can run through enemy formations. great for flanking and recon
we do have lots of Vtols also but unfortunately they cannot spot ground targets
10 rounds is alot of rounds
to be fair, we aren't even arriving until about round 3 likely. I feel this campaign is going to be drawn out
Sounds like we need more supply
its multi-regioned and the enemies can produce more troops
though I assume by the time we're actually get low on supplies the opportunity to resupply will arise
if we do have supply for that we are good, im sure we can figure out something in that time from somwhere. i do expect it to be reasonably long, theres multiple maps afterall
well if only 90-80% of the force can only land after the air/space port is taken than hopefully it’s not too heavily guarded and it’s priority #1 XD
We just gotta hope we have enough large sized supply for the rounds
They do all the side quests first
we're basically one of the main armies dropping after the recon lol
and we taking the North
an meet the first boss 20 levels over leveled XD
found the arty target for us
well, regardless of how things pan out we definitely not a blitzkrieg force. However, we are a good standing force
I mean hell, if we have to seal the bulk heads on our vehicles and just roll them out on the hulls of the transport ships and shoot from orbit than so be it
and we can take on a lot of obstacles that come our way. considering how much we are plotting on how to stick in just a few more lunchboxes into our bags I think we'll analyse the battlefield effectively as a group
Only mechs can do that
magnetic clamp jury rigging?
I am theory crafting an idea for an Orbi with several repair arms and mech bulk heads to get away with having no guns
Launch us out of shipping containers from orbit ||like the ending of The Expanse|| we'll get the job done lol
tank desante is a good idea till you realize it’s basically an open air apc and the enemy starts lobbing shells or shooting from the bush
Angry ship of bees
its still faster and the trucks die in one hit anyways lol
grab handles for temporary transportation of inf were a thing all the way back to C1 planning, somehow they haven't ever come back
Or a MBT?
sadness
Mechs also protect MBT as they can pull some ap fire away right?
I think its highest armour / hits that get NPC priority
any other vehicle to split fire on will make others nearby tankier by proxy
yes but i wouldn’t wanna be the infantry riding on a desante. ide rather get a full box
depends on the enemy tactics shack rolls for and their type and their gear, but if theres 2 armoured vehicles to shoot and 2 enemy AV weapons they would split fire
Ah then it aims at the tank? Fair. Still imma sit behind a rain if arty fire, a dance of mechs, a wall of tanks, and the loyal arms of our infantry
We will be some happy trucks
I think honestly its perfectly fine for balance and game logic. Tanks act as non protective transports to increase unit mobility with a greatest risk than IFVs or Light vehicles or Trucks.
I'm back with more sheet supply updates :)
My only wish is I could help out more as a Logi truck. But being able to active reload someone is still pretty good
Nalla should we recruit/request one more Truck on "C5 Logistical Hub", because we got one more Arty? (6)
you will be invaluable
Set it to prefer putting vehicles and infantry in the trucks so we can see what it would take to be unreliant on an airstrip.
did you take into account we packing a arty into a back of one the trucks? lol
As a big backpack with an auto loader arm B)
yes, that is the one "Truck veh." in the speed 2 section
I mean any infantry in a hat can paradrop base. But I don't think Engi or Medics can
oh yeah I see it. my count is the same. 40 free supply, 12 arty supply and 20 engineer supply (72)
if we forced marched though out of vehicles its almost double combined (133)
Does an arty carry supply whilst packed in a truck?
Hell yeah
Alright. Yeah makes sense
like how 3 engineers would carry 12 supply if they all sat in a back of a truck
pockets
It's like the engineers know something the truck driver doesn't
We definitely aren't picking the truck with the biggest bed to load the arty into because we definitely are not seeking to make a hobo-technical SPG.
I mean if they all had rigs they could carry up to 15 in total lol
now say a truck with double capacity carrying 6 engineers its 30 supply
Magical 10 free space for double capacity truck
We showed up 2 hours early to the armco truck pool so we could choose the slightly larger trucks
hey technicals are cool and cheap
want to make it real funny make it med evac and carry 4 free medics with no space cost also
and trap 2 supply on the side
So we fill a max cargo slot Logi with supply cap engis
32 supply, 8 units
Clown car but for supply
Clownfucking car
this is pointless to do when you could with a heavier truck just carry two medium supply lol
if it had a place to distribute it
and the engineers can carry the supply seperately anyways
Someone put dinkleberg here
I know but. Engineer bomb
if I HAD a heavy truck
Truck shows up and 8 engineering teams step out
+4 medics (1 medic team) cause its also a med evac
They just build a hospital from what they have in their pack
med evac is a funny medic corps upgrade to toss on a vehicle
literally free medics slot
C5 will be wildly different with supply, since this is the first one with the new system
Oh nice
It feels weird
I bought a truck after reading the rules one. But with v5 I went over all the cargo info again
Its a great one, lets people play the paramedics they always wanted
And man it is quite fun
I think its interesting, but the issue is we cannot utilize medium or large with our current stuff unless we find a way to transport a medium or utilize an HQ building or something to distribute it
I can't wait to have req to spend
cause we cannot build a FOB or transport medium
if we could do that though we'd be golden
actually the Hats could transport a medium right?
piggy back off another battle group?
They can
they'd just need a way to drop it off
and if we don't have a proper airfield for Hats that don't have rugged
We need a big truck
Dont think medium can be parachuted unfortunately
and we got no big truck
It can if you have the space for it
Listen, we don't need more trucks, we need bigger trucks
still more truck
but wider
Which we don't have
Exactly you need the heavy truck
If you get an upgrade that requires another unit, try to reach out to someone that might be interested. For instance if you want the medium supply truck, see if you can get find an engineer interested in the FOB upgrade so you can team up on the next one
Next campaign rugged hats are gonna be so much more popular after all this XD
Let's weld trucks together
And cut off the middle wall
It should work
lol
Ok, im going "off line" for a bit and muting the Vox, about to start my Thursday night pathfinder, I should be back around either later tonight or tomorrow.
TTYL chooms
God I hope
We only need it to CATCH the medium supply
lol
Stay safe!
oh hey the main rulesheet looks like it got a small update
What's the update?
just looks like formating
and maybe more precise wording
so they cleaned it up basically
also looks like logi can take coordinated airdrops of any supply (up to their capacity*) so if it cannot hold medium it cannot catch medium
but if it can hold medium it can catch it
it just comes down to distribution at that point
Visual stuff
Oh shit so medics and engineers are counted as infantry. They can also paradrop for free from a hat
And yeah love the new look
I don't believe they can paradrop
can be trained to drop from orbit though
lol
(combat variants can be trained)
there is now over 400 players (and we got about an 8th of everyone lol)
I am pretty sure medics and engineers can paradrop. We dropped them just fine last campaign. COURSE that could have changed and I just missed the rules.
I'm asking about it in the FAQ because it feels like they should be able to
right now it says infrantry can, but then just doesn't say one way or another on meds and mechanics
I looked at the new sheet
It has a tag next to medics and engineers
Labeling them as infantry
agreed I think that's telling us they can. but, good to be sure
I think they can using logic, but just reading the rulebook it feels unclear
Just a snap shot for others to see
it’s strange they don’t have weapons. they should at least have a pistol or PDW (personal/personnel defense weapon, i.e. compact smg or auto pistol)
when do we get the tunneling upgrade for engineers? sub-teranean warfare should be on the table
I would dig it
104 total infantry....
XD but not even starting with a pistol is harsh
Man this is about to be the most dug in hill of all time
tunneling machines are massive unless you’re thinking about a shovel XD
shovel, pick and dynamite are enough to make some basic tunnels
How are we going to transport all these troops 😭
2 hats 5 vtols 5 trucks 2 IFVs and a light vehicle

We have 8 accounted for as Airmobile instead of Airborne.
Well 98 because I don't know if a PAI can paradrop...
Wing suit spec ops would be so fun to have several teams of
😭 If only MBT's could carry units.
yes ww2 glider infantry, paradrop and hope the heavy equipment survived the glider crash
sure there are some sci-fi materials to make them viable to be towed by HATs
Although that just makes them an upgrade like drop pods for orbitals but for HATs really
Dropping supplies and LVs could be useful while infantry air drops in
im more worried about the equipment surviving the crash than the actual glider XD “boss we found the glider! good news, tank survived, bad news, tank crushed everything else!”
🤣
no but with "Jump Pack - Power Armor"
Wait i look a way for a couple hours and we got more arty? Awesome.
Oh hell yeah
I wonder if an in atmo Orbi counts as an air unit
Almost 7k messages before mission orders has 1
we are LOCKED IN
This is our fucking hill
Only if they have the jump pack. I only know 1 PAI in Armco who has that: Me
Desperate need for more droppable things
Well, LV is airdroppable. Every Inf is airdroppable with the exception of PAi without Jumppack. Here we only have 1 Inf unit that isn't paradroppable
depending on how things go c5 im going to be making a force recon TF in c6. limited to one or 2 ships and less than 16 people. we will probably all die but it sounds fun to just sneak two small ships around on orbi map and drop 20FS of special forces behind enemy lines
We are pretty well off stuffing almost everything into the air I guess
Remember that you need at least 15
oh dang that is alot
Yeah^^`

"but mommm i dont wannna eat a 6th artillery for dinner"
-our logistics network
Yeahg
We are just packing it into the back of a truck instead of towing it
We fit it in tho
I mean... if they wanna. BG Ultra has a free tow spot with their logic truck. (they have 1 and no arty)
Oh! We are going the same direction for a bit if we wanna save some space. And we are fighting in the city
might I recommend we reserve a slot for a truck just in case.
I am sure we can burn 10 supply that way
I highly doubt we are getting a truck but i'll put it on the list
🤞
You know we could actually take on a bomber or two
We have the fighters for escort
And since we're going to be needing an a/f anyway may as well pick up some bombers
added
We run the same issue with rearming
That said bombers are great and would be hella useful
I trust that we will find some way to rearm
Every BG except maybe Victorum won't have any way to rearm aero assets
We need to run into ONE rearm after the hill and we are so back
Same. they'll be some way. WORST CASE, we build an AF at Hill or H-H and then order a LS and max out on small supply while it's there, or an orbital.
With the cargo rules a single medium would hyper fuel us
Armco has no way to utilize medium supply this campaign, like at all
at which point we'd have more than we could use unless this went twice the time evey other campaign would.
Yes but no field engineer in ARMCO to my knowledge can build a FOB so unless we find one on the map already, were up shit creek without a paddle on that one.
A heavy truck would fix me
And an airfield is more of our issue than supply as a whole
We got to hope this civilization of advanced engineering dorks have some ways for us to utilize things
We're definitely going to solve this a/f issue one way or another
What is the worst that happens?
Things won't go wrong. And it will be nothing but peaceful encounters. Hell we just show up and the bots agree to turn themselves off. Yeah!
Worst is that we don’t get paid
The absolute worst that happens is that our aero assets are one-shot only
But I guess being bored would suck too
But we have the means to fix that and we will
NOOOO
The absolute worst is the space port never being taken
Getting one of ultras trucks to tow our extra arty isn’t a bad idea
Should we try to see if TF Fluffle can transport us in?
TF Fluffle may take BG1. Will need to reconfirm
I’m not sure if any task forces have enough space for us all lol
We’re likely second wave
if we’re second wave unless there’s a space port on tora and they take it for us it will fall to the bots before we can dig in
dwarves! this is a call for action! a call... for ROCK AND STONE
im trying to 100% Deep Rock and figured i could recuit you guys to help me farm xp for one of the achievements. im just going to be playing point extraction missions over and over.
ill be in game room 4 #222464302714585098
we could call it a "team building excerise"
alternativly, target practice
we are likely coming in second wave at the space port in the west and marching north, there will likely be fighting involved before we get a chance to dig in
that is the reality do to the lack of orbitals to transport everyone
and our battlegroup is one of the largest
shacks probably gonna make us WORK because we dont have enough orbitals
or he'll be nice and oposition will be light
even with moderate opposition, Dwarf fortress combined with Ultra is a significant number of our forces to take the mines
Ultra has committed to going north with you guys?
supposedly thats what i've gathered
they're also pushing north, and after we secure our objectives they plan to push on
I honestly didn’t know if anyone else was going to head on that northern route except you guys so that’s good to hear. I’ll most likely head east with Phalanx then now that you have their help. Just have to see what the group wants to do
I'm not sure on the exact plans of Ultra, and things could change once boots are on the ground also
Yeah absolutely but I feel pretty good about your chances if you both are heading their. It’s probably about 60ish fighting units between you guys and lots of support elements as well. Plus Storm will be able to reach you in no time if it comes to that
thats if much of storm is left lol
Well I’m trying to be hopeful about their odds💀
If they take over half the VTOLs in the entire campaign just to get almost wiped in the first couple rounds I am going to lose it
it would be pretty funny though
Guess we might be getting another infantry boys (we marching on foot now to actually transport supplies at this point?)
If you don’t have the space or transport for infantry Ultra is an easy recommendation instead if they are going the same route as you guys or Phalanx will always welcome anyone
Time to walk until morale improves
well I'd like to direct people towards others but people insist on joining us
I blame the name
and our activity, and a decent format page, lol
12 Infantry, yay AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
guess we force marching boys
unless we get more transports
Man. Footing the trip is gona be hell. Just hope it ain't in sand.
I mean there’s nothing wrong with turning people down. You’re almost at capacity as is😝
We are landing on hoth basically.
Awww maaan.
Is there a map of the area we landing in?
Man we need 1 more transport for that
I'm getting in trouble for encouraging people to maybe join elsewhere lol
Not really. I just know the the planet is in an ice age
I think thats all we know
Then ice and snow is fine.
Other people need infantry more and people keep joining us lol
Heck, it's a whole lot better.
well we are six from max now anyways
Where the snow cats an snowmobiles.
Oh yes
Heck we really need a 6th truck jow
Now
We have 6 arty lmao
Ab don't forget the snow sleds.
12 infantry and 6 arty. 2 infantry per arty lol
Artys get a crew already
I know
I'm stating that for very 1 artillery we have 2 infantry
That good.
Yeah i just realised that haga
which can allow for some nice standardised trenches and arty setups
Yep
We have the engis for it
Now just logi, het's, and vtol needed.
Ye
With the 6 arty and 4 tanks, we're just 6 big guns away from the required 16 for 1812 overture
Yeeep
State in meta that our infantry is full and only air and vehicles is open.
Honestly our guerilla tactics should be amazing with How well we can dig in
True true.
Though we'll need a supply point close by to where we've dug in
Yes
With the number of engineers, we could make an armored train if we find some rails.
Thanks for my inclusion, and good luck to the smart people who make plans.
We can't properly make plans yet unfortunately
You can half-bake speculation which is just as fun
I suppose
I want the enis to go steal a locomotive full of booze.
I thought of bringing that up in the meta chat.
Booze train
I think the main plan is hit whatever we want with an entirely overwhelming amount of force should work
We are just gonna be slow and that is a ok
Make a statement that we are making a table top fox hole.
All we need to do now is get the medics an upgrade to be able to put done a field hospital
Well apparently we still move at 2 speed so thats not a big worry
Rock and snow
67 supplies is still a decent bit
That should let us run hot for several rounds.
even an extra VTOL would bring our total up by 12
I mean 6 pieces will be running through it like no tomorrow
Is that counting the 12 the arty have loaded?
we likely marching on foot at this point just to maximize supply storage lol
Lmao
I don't see an issue with a march. The hill is one tile away from the space port
Well considering we have HATs We can transport supplies to our arty line no?
So we have 5 infantry in the HATs and 2 in the trucks, so an extra VTOL would give us 2 supply from the VTOL itself and open up a slot on the truck/hat which would be another 5. So 7 total
Using our supply trucks thing
Who ever has control over the sheet might want to ad a few more slots to it. The inf slots are full.
I see
I said 12 originally but that was just me being dumb because its late and work has me drained
