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#Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms
valid pecan
modest pagoda
modest pagoda
50 small supply in the trucks
I think
astral nymph
I can hear that.
assuming we take infantry in the HAT and logisticis in the trucks, we have 50 supply starting out.
hybrid hazel
barb wire, mines, trenchworks
warm hazel
I can hear that.
assuming we take infantry in the HAT and logisticis in the tru...
VTOLs have 2 free slots for small supply
modest pagoda
Oh?
copper nebula
Anyone know any battlegroups looking for Medics or a Light Mech?
warm hazel
So we get 10 from our 5
modest pagoda
Supply gang
warm hazel
60 total
hybrid hazel
a single HAT can take a lot of supplies, and we got the Vtols also transporting troops
warm hazel
Hats are deff gonna need to paradrop or move units
astral nymph
Oh hey double up, welcome back
hybrid hazel
I think with the right shuffle, between trucks, Vtols, light vehicles, IFV and Hats we can transfer everyone with a lot of supplies
engineers alos carry supply with them
and medics carry their own medical supply, and it takes only 1 supply to refill
warm hazel
We could have them haul cargo and air drop it after the units disembark
copper nebula
Oh hey double up, welcome back
Good to be back for another major operation again.
astral nymph
Anyone know any battlegroups looking for Medics or a Light Mech?
i'm not paying any attention to anyone but us really, but i know we can easily fit a mech.... we maybe have a logistics seat for a medic, maybe not??? not sure I havn't sat down to math out the seats perfectly.... We currently have 3 medics and 4 light mechs
queen spear
Anyone know any battlegroups looking for Medics or a Light Mech?
We are looking for fast units over in Phalanx if you want to be part of a ground qrf. Otherwise I think there’s some other spots in battle groups you could fit with either role
warm hazel
We are gonna make the bots rust from attrition trying to take this hill
hybrid hazel
a handful of our infantry squads only have 4 or 3 dudes in them (meds, engs and PAI) so if we really plan it out we can really maximize space
light widget
y'all within your player cap?
hybrid hazel
whats the player cap?
light widget
i think its 40 players per BG
modest pagoda
Ahh
light widget
at least we have a cap of 40 in red wall listed
astral nymph
Yeah, which is why I THINK we can squeeze in 1 more medic.
60 is the ABSOLUTE max on paper...
40's probably around optimal this time around
light widget
i see
modest pagoda
Sheeeesh
queen spear
Yeah 60 is the hard max but likely you don’t want to go much above 30-40 due to tac com strain and general bloat
copper nebula
We are looking for fast units over in Phalanx if you want to be part of a ground...
Alright, I'll probably jump into phalanx then, appreciate it.
hybrid hazel
we could go for a medic for a field hospital if any med corps want to join up
valid pecan
6 more arty and truck pairs plz
astral nymph
I can say, Taccoming for more then 40 is hard alone. Perfectly doable if we have 2 folks doing it, but if only 1 map can be turned in.. 60 is a lot lol
speaking from experience
queen tendon
60 per bg
warm hazel
So... Nooo more trucks?
queen spear
I think every group has at least a primary and secondary tac com already and some have even more on standby. So I think it’s just about keeping groups from becoming unnecessarily large
warm hazel
A second truck rush has hit the battle groups
modest pagoda
Thats probably true
astral nymph
Yeah.
I wont stop folks from going to the max, but I would encourage spreading the love a bit.. I KNOW we have supply and logistical deployment space for the 45 or so we have now
wispy iron
Nalla do we still need this? on the C5 Logistical Hub
warm hazel
Nalla do we still need this? on the C5 Logistical Hub
Hey we do need another actually
queen tendon
I’m gonna look at our transportation and supply that we have currently
warm hazel
Good idea to leave it
modest pagoda
Hey we do need another actually
Real?
velvet scarab
Hey we do need another actually
I concur
rigid jacinth
I think more would be great
modest pagoda
Never have enough tbf
warm hazel
6 trucks means both hats can dump full cargo at once
queen tendon
We don’t wanna steal all the trucks
velvet scarab
I mean
vivid vessel
We do not have a high enough percentage of the total deployed trucks
light widget
please leave some for the rest
queen tendon
We have almost half already
light widget
i will
warm hazel
God yeah others need them
valid pecan
They can walk
modest pagoda
In all fairness
Our trucks can still assist others
rigid jacinth
Almost half? Sounds like we need one more.
velvet scarab
They gotta boot up the lambrofeeties
queen spear
I do appreciate you guys being able to make use of the arty players so if you need trucks to keep supporting them then I am not opposed to it
warm hazel
What I would do for 1 more speed
modest pagoda
I do appreciate you guys being able to make use of the arty players so if you ne...
Alot of us are willing to assist other groups too tbf
queen tendon
Before we go out recruiting again we should probably take a look at our current operational and transportation capabilities
warm hazel
We are stuffed with units we really shouldn't recruit with the others in need
light widget
my group's main force is built half with PAs that need 1 whole small supply per FS repair, we are lucky already we have 5 engineers and 2 trucks
queen tendon
Before we go out recruiting again we should probably take a look at our current ...
Give me a few hours and I can do this
rigid jacinth
We need to stop receiving migrants waves.
modest pagoda
Fair lmao
warm hazel
Drawbridge fixes that
velvet scarab
Da atomsmasher
astral nymph
We need to stop receiving migrants waves.
hahahaha
Yeah I know we have space for now, but I don't know specifics and we might be at cap or close to it for infantry at least.
warm hazel
hahahaha
Yeah I know we have space for now, but I don't know specifics and we m...
We could likely take more special units as they are less force
modest pagoda
I feel like if we get one more Truck we'll be set
velvet scarab
I feel like if we get one more Truck we'll be set
Always one more truck away from perfection
queen tendon
48 units and honestly vehicles are the hardest to transport
astral nymph
WE'll take a look through. LETS NOT SAY NO to anyone. if they wanna join but lets not go actively spamming metacomm or something 😄
warm hazel
One more truck would fix me
brazen helm
"I can fix him" - the trucks
queen tendon
I feel like if we get one more Truck we'll be set
You sound like civil engineers being like “just one more lane will fix the traffic problem. Just one more lane”
velvet scarab
One more truck would ruin my life
warm hazel
"I can fix him" - the trucks
The engineers in the trucks
modest pagoda
You sound like civil engineers being like “just one more lane will fix the traff...
Dang he knows ☠️
brazen helm
You sound like civil engineers being like “just one more lane will fix the traff...
or the average suburbanite buying their pavement princesses
velvet scarab
No trust me bro you don't get it this lane addition isn't like all the other ones we've ever done it's gonna be different it'll solve everything
modest pagoda
"Just one more logistics orby and we'll be set'
astral nymph
If someone offers us a cargo orbital, we bake them a cake though. 😄
modest pagoda
ABSOLUTELY
warm hazel
No trust me bro you don't get it this lane addition isn't like all the other one...
The rare 78 lane to 3 way
modest pagoda
I'll get the ingredients
valid pecan
So if the worst happens, do you think we have enough fire power to collapse the mines if we needed to?
vivid vessel
In a heartbeat
rigid jacinth
Just one more. Of what, I don't know, but it will solve the problem.
modest pagoda
So if the worst happens, do you think we have enough fire power to collapse the ...
Probably
vale geode
If someone offers us a cargo orbital, we bake them a cake though. 😄
Milk and cookies as a side dish
warm hazel
So if the worst happens, do you think we have enough fire power to collapse the ...
Fire the arty up, pack up and leave before it lands
modest pagoda
Yes
velvet scarab
Some great strategic minds at work rn
sick matrix
Will need to identify the mine entrances by the time we reach there.
modest pagoda
queen tendon
I need to do math. One sec
sick matrix
With the info currently, it's likely that bunker hull is currently in enemy hands.
rigid jacinth
Will need to identify the mine entrances by the time we reach there.
Make a new entrance
brazen helm
Can our arty just glass the plane
but the otters!
sick matrix
Can our arty just glass the plane
This entire plane of existence? Why not.
modest pagoda
Yes.
vivid vessel
Man I wish I could get the dozer blade to help with all the crap we're gonna build
sick matrix
Make a new entrance
But why? We need to deny the enemy materials for reinforcements if they're already there.
rigid jacinth
Man I wish I could get the dozer blade to help with all the crap we're gonna bui...
Same!
velvet scarab
Can our arty just glass the plane
Planes are aluminum mostly, not glass
warm hazel
Yes
Ideas on the orbi? I'm thinking maybe 2 bays for flight decks and 2 bays for hats with maybe a drop and lots of cargo
velvet scarab
Idk probably
modest pagoda
Ideas on the orbi? I'm thinking maybe 2 bays for flight decks and 2 bays for hat...
.
warm hazel
Man I wish I could get the dozer blade to help with all the crap we're gonna bui...
Luckily we have a mech with hands
velvet scarab
I just kinda feel like it would be true
modest pagoda
Mega freighter
rigid jacinth
Just 400 cargo space worth of orbital bays
modest pagoda
Exactly
warm hazel
Determins how fast you can let them out
sick matrix
Clearly, the solution is to cut our losses, glass the planet, then claim the bots did it.
warm hazel
I mean
modest pagoda
Clearly, the solution is to cut our losses, glass the planet, then claim the bot...
Obviously
warm hazel
We get paid 4 regardless right
modest pagoda
We have the artillery for it ong
sick matrix
5
vivid vessel
Not a great way to get paid
modest pagoda
Not a great way to get paid
But it is A way to get paid yes?
warm hazel
It's a fast way to get paid
modest pagoda
Exactly
vivid vessel
But it is A way to get paid yes?
velvet scarab
Profit incentives
terse merlin
modest pagoda
sick matrix
It's not a war crime if you aren't at war.
This is not my official position, Shack, don't you kick me out for this.
warm hazel
Y'all got some psychotic drivers
wispy iron
WE'll take a look through. LETS NOT SAY NO to anyone. if they wanna join but let...
so we edited or just leave it? (on C5 Logistical Hub) and goodnight I will go to sleep 🐢
warm hazel
so we edited or just leave it? (on C5 Logistical Hub) and goodnight I will go to...
Put X2 on Logi truck just in case
modest pagoda
I think we're leaving it for now
terse merlin
Im a good teacher for psychotic. lol
rigid jacinth
Well, more logical trucks are not gonna cause problems.
velvet scarab
Put X2 on Logi truck just in case
Be safe make it 3
warm hazel
Ask for the remaining companies trucks
vivid vessel
4 to be extra safe
modest pagoda
Welp
queen tendon
If an orbital enters our airspace, counting only the artillery and not our aerospace, we have a:
40% chance to one salvo a destroyer
80% chance to one salvo a corvette
And a 96% chance to one salvo a freighter
modest pagoda
Split fiction time
warm hazel
Tow the trucks that are towing trucks
vivid vessel
"No fly zone, enforced by howitzers"
rigid jacinth
The anti deathstar company
warm hazel
It is AA if you have enough of it
velvet scarab
"I'll just fly over this hill and see what's up over he- oh my ship is gone"
light widget
if you guys get another logi it will prove how the rich grow fatter and the poor starve
brazen helm
lmao
rigid jacinth
We aren't rich, just selectively armed
warm hazel
The leviathan in hell divers cresting the hill to see 4 AT emplacements
astral nymph
Oh i'll edit that
winged dawn
warm hazel
if you guys get another logi it will prove how the rich grow fatter and the poor...
That one pipe line meme of DF drinking up all the trucks
queen tendon
Including our fighters with their standard attack it is:
90% on the destroyer
98% on the corvette
99% on the freighter
astral nymph
It is now 'whatever' emphasis on air/vehicles'
silver widget
If an orbital enters our airspace, counting only the artillery and not our aeros...
POV: Enemy Orbital enters our airspace
velvet scarab
if you guys get another logi it will prove how the rich grow fatter and the poor...
Consolidation of the logic trucks was written about in Capital actually. Source just trust me
warm hazel
https://tenor.com/view/mlrs-rockets-artillery-army-military-gif-11288811
Yeah but it's fucking ARTILLERY
modest pagoda
And?
warm hazel
Fired UP with no plans to head back down
modest pagoda
Arty hits sub orb
light widget
you do have a trucker's union right?
modest pagoda
Apparently
terse knoll
if you guys get another logi it will prove how the rich grow fatter and the poor...
Don't look here, no siree-
(whistles innocently)
rigid jacinth
No union.
modest pagoda
you do have a trucker's union right?
We are the truckers union yes
warm hazel
you do have a trucker's union right?
Trucker union is gonna turn into an orbi
modest pagoda
Yes
winged dawn
No unions
velvet scarab
No unions, we're like a family here
astral nymph
We get any more trucks or arty and they are going to pettition us for a guild hall valued at 10,000 or more.
warm hazel
We could ..ask
terse merlin
No unions in the military like no crying in baseball
warm hazel
10 trucks and arty
silver widget
Yeah but it's fucking ARTILLERY
rigid jacinth
We need... hmmm 8 more main battle tanks, that will round out our forces.
modest pagoda
10 trucks and arty
If we do Logi orbs
terse knoll
Wait, how much Arty do yall have?
terse knoll
And how many Logi Trucks?
valid pecan
It's not AA. It's AAA for a reason.
rigid jacinth
5
velvet scarab
Wait, how much Arty do yall have?
5
warm hazel
https://tenor.com/view/kargil-kargil-artillery-artillery-gif-1794967109225960678...
Plan is to use my logi action an power reload the guns
modest pagoda
And how many Logi Trucks?
5 trucks
5 Arty
silver widget
Wait, how much Arty do yall have?
5
warm hazel
5 5 5
modest pagoda
But yes we have 5 Arty and 5 supply truck
sharp canopy
But yes we have 5 Arty and 5 supply truck
Perfectly balanced
sick matrix
Damn, that gear is appealing.
warm hazel
5 arty 5 trucks 5 vtols
modest pagoda
Appealing gear huh
vivid vessel
Our shells shall blot out the sun
modest pagoda
5 arty 5 trucks 5 vtols
Completely balanced
valid pecan
Our shells shall blot out the sun
Damn you beat me to it
terse knoll
5 arty 5 trucks 5 vtols
eyes VTOL count
pathetic /jk
terse merlin
As all things should be.
modest pagoda
Yesssir
warm hazel
*eyes VTOL count*
pathetic /jk
Just you wait until I make an orbi to field all the vtols
velvet scarab
Ours didn't have to sign a waiver at least
sick matrix
Our shells shall blot out the sun
"Then we'll die in the shade."-Bots. Probably.
terse knoll
Ours didn't have to sign a waiver at least
True...
warm hazel
We are gonna glass the city
vivid vessel
"Then we'll die in the shade."-Bots. Probably.
"Ya got the dying part right" 155mm shell lands
warm hazel
They can build a new on on the flat level foundation
terse knoll
Just you wait until I make an orbi to field all the vtols
That... probably isn't as efficient as you think it is.
warm hazel
The cream team
velvet scarab
The cream team
rich olive
what's the plan if an enemy orbital sits in high orbit and sends bomber squadrons to bomb our arty?
rigid jacinth
We move.
warm hazel
We all die and have a laugh
vivid vessel
Cry
terse knoll
what's the plan if an enemy orbital sits in high orbit and sends bomber squadron...
Ground based AA fire?
warm hazel
Buy truck again
valid pecan
The upgrade tree for arty should include 16 inch shells.
silver widget
"Then we'll die in the shade."-Bots. Probably.
We get to hit them with the "Warning you are in range of enemy artillery"
warm hazel
When the fucking aircraft get an arty warning
astral nymph
velvet scarab
We get to hit them with the "Warning you are in range of enemy artillery"
No god please no not again
silver widget
my name sake!
rigid jacinth
Flak on route to your location. 
vivid vessel
Any caliber is AA if you shoot enough of it
warm hazel
The poor sods dealing with all the missed shells
sick matrix
"Enemy triple A at your location."
"But there's only artillery here..."
warm hazel
Gonna. Flatten a beaver dam
velvet scarab
Gonna beavern a flat dam
terse knoll
Gonna. Flatten a beaver dam
I read that as hoover for a moment and was concerned.
terse merlin
Is there a lore dump about the world anywhere?
silver widget
Any caliber is AA if you shoot enough of it
I like your way of thinking
warm hazel
Out the back of a hat
sick matrix
Everyone be laughing until the AA starts aiming downwards.
astral nymph
Uh, the only lore dump we have at the moment is the 4 paragraphs or so posted in the briefing room
sick matrix
Is there a lore dump about the world anywhere?
I do, hold on
silver widget
Everyone be laughing until the AA starts aiming downwards.
valid pecan
I mean artillery goes up before coming down. Like 15000 feet.
sick matrix
Is there a lore dump about the world anywhere?
``` here.And again, full disclosure. US (and everyone but BG Bunny) are probably landing only after the Elim City spaceport is captured... Simply because there are only lik 6 ships and 4 of them are strictly combat space ships.
valid pecan
And the natives are cute otter/lemur people.
sick matrix
Is Storm not gonna do a hot drop themselves?
warm hazel
Oh good lord they are
velvet scarab
I'd imagine so
warm hazel
Signed a death waiver and everything
sick matrix
Last info before I went to bed, Storm was the only one that could take the star port ahead of us.
astral nymph
Storm is hot dropping in HATS and VTOLS
velvet scarab
Seems to be the whole bit over there
warm hazel
Last info before I went to bed, Storm was the only one that could take the star ...
Shack made them sign
astral nymph
they know waht they are doing we did that last game. WE do not have the lift to d othat, unfortunately or not
sick matrix
Shack made them sign
Their death warrants? Sounds about right.
But then again, other than storm, two other BGs themselves want to hot drop on top of Ziyal, so.
astral nymph
and... I'm not clear but I am pretty sure it was ruled if we can't all hot drop, then we can't hot drop with like half the BG but maybe i'm wrong on that.
warm hazel
Yep we got a wait for NPCs
vivid vessel
That was the gist I got
sick matrix
Better question I have is that if no one can hot drop on the city to take the spaceport, then none of us can get in anyways, so what gives?
warm hazel
My pay check for next game is to make sure more people can play at the start
astral nymph
Well this is why we needed Orbitals and turns out... we have very few people who didnt prebuy units months ago
silver widget
What would it take for us to land without a space port? Like what’s the bare minimum a TF would need to take us?
warm hazel
Well this is why we needed Orbitals and turns out... we have very few people who...
Needed a chance at rng req
astral nymph
so there was a very limited pool of folks who took orbital crew (shocking considering this is the first time they are back in a year) and soooo we only have 6, and 4 of them are battle battlehsips
WELL, if you take Space Crew, you do get 3 req for free
warm hazel
2
astral nymph
2* my bad
so the idea is you and 2 of your friends get togehter and pool a small ship with 6 req points I think. even if your new
warm hazel
And can't be used to be a captain. Sad
astral nymph
But not that many people did that
warm hazel
I'd like to fight with a person first before wanting to be on their ship
sick matrix
so the idea is you and 2 of your friends get togehter and pool a small ship with...
Also that it's not exactly well known, tbfh.
rigid jacinth
silver widget
I’ve got a buddy who I’ve been talking to about this and he might want to do an orbital. Maybe I can see if he and others want to set up a TF for us?
vivid vessel
I'd like to fight with a person first before wanting to be on their ship
"I will never join a captain's crew till I have fought him in a fistfight"
velvet scarab
To the death even
rigid jacinth
No to the pain.
warm hazel
I’ve got a buddy who I’ve been talking to about this and he might want to do an ...
I got a few buddies who joined and most seem eager to be an Orbi together. But will need more for the crew requirements and I don't want just my buddies in it
astral nymph
Most people didnt read the rules fully. 😄
By all means Ty, anyone wanting to taskforces will be greatly appreciated, even if it's a stray orbital attached to a BG Any space assets are hard to come by right now and given that they are the source of our large supply... it might be a problem.
But no pressure on them.
warm hazel
Main plan is the 2nd largest frame
sick matrix
No to the pain.
"To the pain?"
silver widget
I got a few buddies who joined and most seem eager to be an Orbi together. But w...
Well, how many more? Because like I said, I’ve got a friend who’s been following this and I’ve been telling him about it and he would be open to do an orbital
velvet scarab
Princess bride posting incoming?
rigid jacinth
warm hazel
6 crew required. Captain takes one, I got two buddies who wanna do it so far. And at least one dwarf in here interested
sick matrix
Screw it, I'll continue it myself
warm hazel
Well, how many more? Because like I said, I’ve got a friend who’s been following...
Got a few gimmick ideas in mind to run by everyone
sick matrix
"To the pain means this: if we duel and you win, death for me. If we duel and I win, life for you. But life on my terms. "
warm hazel
Screw it, I'll continue it myself
You got this!
velvet scarab
Da book quoter
sick matrix
"The first thing you lose will be your feet. Below the ankle. You will have stumps available to use within six months. Then your hands, at the wrists. They heal somewhat quicker. Five months is a fair average. Next your nose. No smell of dawn for you. Followed by your tongue. Deeply cut away. Not even a stump left. And then your left eye-"
velvet scarab
I should read it again
warm hazel
With what the options give. A shit ton of HAT deployment or aerospace ship deployment would be real fun
Just have fighters, bombers, VTOLs, and hats resupply and deploying from it
sick matrix
"And then my right eye, and then my ears, and shall we get on with it?"
astral nymph
With what the options give. A shit ton of HAT deployment or aerospace ship deplo...
Thats what we did in C3. worked faaairly well but wasnt perfect
warm hazel
3 free cargo and 10 slots to work with. Lots to do
sick matrix
"Wrong! Your ears you keep, so that every shriek of every child shall be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps in fear at your approach, every woman that cries 'Dear God, what is that thing?' will reverberate forever with your perfect ears. That, is what 'to the pain' means."
warm hazel
Thats what we did in C3. worked faaairly well but wasnt perfect
Could go for a couple of the ones that can land
Get 3 captains and 3 crew
Power dump a ground deployment after a hot drop team clears it out
wintry swan
what's the plan if an enemy orbital sits in high orbit and sends bomber squadron...
We kill them with our fighters
astral nymph
And then hope we can scavenge a way for them to reload if we dont have a full AF. We'll work it out when we get there. EVERY fighter/bomber in the game is in this predicament.
Tah tah i'm heading home, be back in an hour and a half or 2. cya
sick matrix
We kill them with our fighters
Not give hopes and prayers that the bots can't aim?
warm hazel
Ah hell do we need medical bays on an orbi if we have medical inf crewed there?
wintry swan
Not give hopes and prayers that the bots can't aim?
I'm here for my killmarks
queen tendon
For fun
velvet scarab
Ya love to see it
warm hazel
Armco where did all of round 1 small supply go?
velvet scarab
I eated it
terse knoll
Armco where did all of round 1 small supply go?
VTOLs ate it.
velvet scarab
That was our trucks entire lunch
warm hazel
VTOLs ate it.
127
sick matrix
Inf guys start drawing lots. Those who draw the short stick are walking.
warm hazel
We can fit them
velvet scarab
And then some it seems
warm hazel
We can fit two of them
All of them are riding air and maybe a few in one truck at most
Then we are packing ourselves to the gills with supply
velvet scarab
warm hazel
Is it about trucks? If so yes
queen tendon
trucks are involved
velvet scarab
Yeah I care
lavish ledge
ROCK AND STINE BROTHER!
hybrid hazel
Did some quick math with stuffing people into random stuff (will double check and present later) but we can have everything in Vtols and ground vehicles and still be able to carry 96 small supply
in total across engineers and everything that can carry supply
warm hazel
Time to fire arty everywhere
hybrid hazel
this is assuming we can stuff 3 (4 FP) engineers into the same truck (which makes it carry 12 supply for the 2 slots lol)
since each engineer carry a supply
hybrid hazel
yes, and 2 slots that can hold 6FP each. so if engineers can be split between a slot (so still only 12 dudes) they can carry 12 supply
across individual units
and this is implied as okay from what I've seen mentioned about engineers carrying their own supply in from Shack (I saw the post in brief)
silver widget
But I thought we already established we can’t do logi within logi?
hybrid hazel
Engineers can carry their own supply into transport
its on them, not the transport
you can't transport vehicles full of stuff from certain stuff
You can't have a vehicle being transported full of dudes for example
but a transport with guys who have individual supply is alright since its thats units specific resource
otherwise engineers can't be transported
warm hazel
That seems exploity hmmmm
It was allowed from what I remember
winged dawn
I’ve decided to move to TF 1. Dwarf Fortress has enough Light Mechs. I’m gonna go live my Gundam dreams. Can’t wait to see everyone on the front lines though
lavish ledge
Neat, I guess it requires 3 people to add 2 supply so I dont know if anyone would really use that just to boost supply transport.
hybrid hazel
also, you could carry way more if you loaded the engineers into none resource transports
but, they count up odd, so i'll do some more shuffling around with HATs and see what I get
since they take 4 space you can fit 3 units into a truck, while you can still only fit one in a Vtol for example
warm hazel
I’ve decided to move to TF 1. Dwarf Fortress has enough Light Mechs. I’m gonna g...
Stay safe and strike the earth in your own way
valid pecan
How a Humvee is paradropped
hybrid hazel
while a truck can fit only 2 infantry. so infantry to Vtols, engineers and medics stacked into trucks and our one light vehicle
warm hazel
We drivers got the season pass for a felt pillow
hybrid hazel
if tank gets hit everyone dies lol
warm hazel
https://tenor.com/view/red-army-berlin-soviet-union-ussr-cccp-gif-85690897374054...
WHY NOT
+1 armor
sand whale
Btw how dead are we if our 2 MBT’s die?
velvet scarab
Like +1/10th an armor realistically
warm hazel
Btw how dead are we if our 2 MBT’s die?
They got through the arty?!
velvet scarab
If they get close enough to tap the tanks things already aren't going great for us
I imagine anyway
warm hazel
You get through 5 arty and can take out 2 main battle tanks
I'm fucking leaving
And all the infantry!!
silver widget
I’d fight until I run out of ammo
warm hazel
Id action reload
velvet scarab
We have a fair amount of inf support too yeah I'm not worried for the tanks much
sand whale
We have a fair amount of inf support too yeah I'm not worried for the tanks much
We can always call upon the 7th meat devision battlegroup.
warm hazel
We have 2 massive QRFs
We are safe nearly anywhere on the map in a round or two
Anyone got a pin for our plan?
sick matrix
How a Humvee is paradropped
Throwing shit out of a moving airplane is hard.
Setting the shit up to throw stuff out of the airplane is a massive pain in the ass.
queen tendon
sheets formulas are wild
hybrid hazel
I wonder what kind of stuff our medics are bringing, if they are veterans they must be bringing some stuff right?
warm hazel
I see it all now. And it spawns bots
hybrid hazel
it is a place they will take resources to make bots likely
warm hazel
Not if we make our own bots first
hybrid hazel
so us with Ultra plan to capture it, we plan to dig in and Ultra plans to push on
hybrid hazel
I feel we'll be well jointed with them
warm hazel
We will have a surplus either way
hybrid hazel
I mean with just some basic planning we can transport everyone and have 96 supply (I might be able to improve that more)
warm hazel
I'm more than happy to fit a 3 stack of engis
hybrid hazel
just gotta make sure you don't die lol
3 engis in one truck, all medics in another and the light vehicle can take the 4th engi since it can only carry 4 FP. that leaves us 10 infantry and 2 PAI to fill across 5 vtols, 2 IVFs which handle 7. that leaves 3 infantry and 2 PAI that can fit into other places
the 2 PAI are basically 1 infantry, so 4 infantry fits into 2 more trucks. that leaves 1 full truck of supplies, and one with 12 (with the engies)
and the HATs carry 50
the vtols will collectively carry 10
sick matrix
Throwing shit out of a moving airplane is hard.
Setting the shit up to throw stu...
Actually, better question. Why HATs have inbuilt paradrop for ease of classification, but irl, airdrop is a massive pain in the arse to do. So why isn't there some sort of consequence thing for the guys jumping out of the aircraft if they aren't trained?
hybrid hazel
and 4 from the engis in the light
warm hazel
just gotta make sure you don't die lol
Lowest target priority baby
hybrid hazel
true
snow python
just woke up from a nap and saw the Supply numbers. were the Arty supplies accounted for as well?
velvet scarab
I love not being a priority target, makes me feel slightly less unsafe
snow python
2 SS
hybrid hazel
okay so thats an additional 10
warm hazel
just woke up from a nap and saw the Supply numbers. were the Arty supplies accou...
We got the trucks
hybrid hazel
so if my numbers hold 106 supply?
snow python
We got the trucks
I saw.
hybrid hazel
across all units and storage in vehicles
snow python
am happy. now we can move at a reasonable speed.
hybrid hazel
if we get new people of varying vehicles or troops this can change. but I think we can cover ourselves for awhile
warm hazel
Literally had to bribe and yap people's ear off for a single speed increase
queen tendon
I have 86 supply rn
warm hazel
quq
snow python
also. question. ealier today. I think I was walking into work when I saw something. are we opening up an RP thing or something?
warm hazel
also. question. ealier today. I think I was walking into work when I saw somethi...
A rest point?
snow python
Roleplay
sick matrix
Role play, I presume?
queen tendon
Most of this is math for myself, but the bottom is the amount of supplies we can have after for all slots needed for speed 1 units
hybrid hazel
my numbers came out different, so I'll have to double check mine
warm hazel
Sounds like we need more trucks
I swear I will cry if we end up getting another arty and no truck to haul it
snow python
AH SHACK! WHY MUST YOU DO THIS! why is VTol carry capacities different to everything else?
rich olive
@queen tendon does this include medics?
warm hazel
They get 2 free cargo
astral nymph
working on more rudimentary transportation stats
I super care. Love it
queen tendon
<@412759651088596992> does this include medics?
Yes, but I typed "medics" instead of "medic"
snow python
arty counts a 1 vic unless they dismount.
queen tendon
its fixed now
snow python
yea, so the crew basically hold on for dear life when being towed
warm hazel
Thank god
queen tendon
In my formula, Arty prefers being towed but will be shoved in another vehicle slot if there aren't enough trucks
warm hazel
We could off to haul a few other BG units
snow python
do any truck have trailers?
snow python
ok, so yea, just tow the arty
velvet scarab
I joined the server like today
warm hazel
Power haul for speed 2 because we have mbts
snow python
yea. now that we got the trucks. its the MBTs that are the lowest speed correct?
and IFVs
warm hazel
Yep both speed two
rigid jacinth
Being a priority target. Woo!
warm hazel
As long as we don't get an arty we are now a speed 2 bg
velvet scarab
Wooo speed 2 I love speed 2
warm hazel
Twice as good as speed 1
velvet scarab
I love speeeeed
silver widget
As long as we don't get an arty we are now a speed 2 bg
We have like 5 arty…
warm hazel
We have like 5 arty…
We have 5 trucks
velvet scarab
And 5 trucks
snow python
damn, and the cargo space for the HATs is 5 with a vic taking 2 space per.
silver widget
Oh another arty, I get it
rigid jacinth
No poaching.
warm hazel
damn, and the cargo space for the HATs is 5 with a vic taking 2 space per.
We can take both hats dumping all cargo into the trucks in one turn
celest dragon
Hey, TF Victorum is looking to poach one of your Engineers.
Any one looking to see the stars, repair planes and mechs, and relax with all the Coffee you desire.
warm hazel
10 cargo for trucks 10 cargo for two hats
queen tendon
I forgot arty carry supplies, fixing now
hybrid hazel
also, medics carry medical supply, which is different so I didn't count it
astral nymph
you guys are the best for this
silver widget
I forgot arty carry supplies, fixing now
Well, 2 small once deployed
hybrid hazel
oh once deployed?
queen tendon
Recalculated
silver widget
Not sure if they hold it on the move
hybrid hazel
its storage they can't just carry it?
cause thats the different of 10
across the 5 arty
celest dragon
Well, 2 small once deployed
They can hold on the move
warm hazel
We have simply amassed a huge fighting force of dwarves
hybrid hazel
okay they can hold it and move
hybrid hazel
so 96 if we stuff all medics and engies into light vehicles and trucks. (engies make the truck they are in carry 12 lol)
velvet scarab
And that one elf
hybrid hazel
and the Hats are full of supply
celest dragon
This is a flat out ridiculous number of people to hold a hill
If I can poach an Engi, it’ll go down
hybrid hazel
only 1 truck is full supply (though the engie one is caring more lol)
velvet scarab
It's necessary because... It just is ok please stop asking
warm hazel
If I can poach an Engi, it’ll go down
Try an get them sunny side up
rigid jacinth
Eggeneer
hybrid hazel
so the trucks will be fully loaded with troops, support teams and supplies. Vtols will carry the rest of infantry as the Hats bring in the rest of supply
snow python
i got bored and am seeing if chatGPT can figure out our transport problem.
hybrid hazel
and the two PAI we can count as 1 infantry for logistics
warm hazel
i got bored and am seeing if chatGPT can figure out our transport problem.
Did it say more trucks?
brazen helm
egnegignegeningenneer
hybrid hazel
since they together take 6FP space
warm hazel
I thought they were real big
velvet scarab
i got bored and am seeing if chatGPT can figure out our transport problem.
It'll hallucinate an extra 3 trucks into the equation somehow
Then the trucks show up irl
silver widget
I’m pretty sure it’s just when deployed considering this and the upgrade text
brazen helm
Then the trucks show up irl
"you dont think deleted the blues from the computer actually altered the fabric of reality and killed caboose did it?"
hybrid hazel
okay so we have a maybe 10~ supply we are uncertain if we can carry it or not with arty
queen tendon
Should be the last one, I am curious why tech and I are 10 off
warm hazel
So you get + 4 supply cap when sitting there
hybrid hazel
so 86-96 as we currently stand
we calculating mobile supply
supply storage when set up will be larger, but we still got to fill it
velvet scarab
"you dont think deleted the blues from the computer actually altered the fabr...
I feel old for the 3rd time today now
warm hazel
Did we see if any other the BGs going our way need transport to be speed 2
warm hazel
We could fit several units
hybrid hazel
my schizo sheet
brazen helm
cant remember when 6 came out
velvet scarab
:( oh no I am old
warm hazel
Yeah bette to have cargo in hats
warm hazel
They can drop it into our cargo after we deploy units
queen tendon
Okay I see the difference, I am not trying to put three 4s squads into the trucks
hybrid hazel
assuming last time thats 96 supply as we currently stand, unless we get upgraded engies that are carrying more supply or something
snow python
that rule didnt change between versions
hybrid hazel
so assuming no unseen upgrades that impact carry capacity for any unit its 96
prisma nacelle
Can the HATs airdrop the supplies once we're in the field or will we need to draw supply from an airfield?
warm hazel
They have to have supply to drop
queen tendon
If they coordinate with a truck, they can supply drop
celest dragon
Can the HATs airdrop the supplies once we're in the field or will we need to dra...
Hello there, are you interested in seeing the stars and having a cushy job repairing mechs and fighters?
warm hazel
They can re enter orbit for more supply
But need a task force for it
Hence why I wanna run an orbi able to restock them
hybrid hazel
The hats will basically be supply storage so lets hope we can find an airspace to secure to make transfer of resources work better
warm hazel
We need an NPC otherwise
snow python
after conferring with the onboard AI. (chat GPT) it has concluded that the most logical way to maximize speed and supply. is a Speed 2 convoy
hybrid hazel
I think carrying in 96 supply will cover most of our needs unless we somehow get completely cut off from others
brazen helm
after conferring with the onboard AI. (chat GPT) it has concluded that the most ...
why are your conversing with the eneny?
queen tendon
I think carrying in 96 supply will cover most of our needs unless we somehow get...
Not for an entire campaign. But it’s definitely a good start.
hybrid hazel
we can definitely use it for an extended period of time.
warm hazel
It's a great starting supply amount for building a dug in base
hybrid hazel
and if we secure an airfield or the mines who may have resources for us to also utilize I think going in we will be fine, as there is other logistic groups and QRFs in the works
rich olive
I think carrying in 96 supply will cover most of our needs unless we somehow get...
well I think this will be a campaign where we are getting slowly overwhelmed so I think supplies will run out rather quickly
hybrid hazel
and considering the mines might get secure if both cities are taken, we can resupply before moving on to the main front
snow python
why are your conversing with the eneny?
what? no. The BigStick has an onboard AI. that how we get such accurate firing solutions.
warm hazel
and if we secure an airfield or the mines who may have resources for us to also ...
If the mines have ONE medium supply we can fully stock every cargo capacity
hybrid hazel
exactly
prisma nacelle
Hello there, are you interested in seeing the stars and having a cushy job repai...
I can't dig trenches among the stars
rich olive
but also I like to over stock on ammo and weapons in games
hybrid hazel
we just have to manage our resources well
like, it'll only take 5 supply to make enough trenches for all regular infantry
warm hazel
I can't dig trenches among the stars
Mech trenches
velvet scarab
I can't dig trenches among the stars
With enough dirt you could build one, but not dig one
hybrid hazel
thats not a lot
hybrid hazel
I wonder if I can steal mining equipment for melee weapons
warm hazel
Just keep mining the rock until it is sand
hybrid hazel
I think if we end up covering a mountainous area defensively we are pretty solid
prisma nacelle
Build a Bagger 293 killdozer
hybrid hazel
and supplies will come if we start to run low
queen tendon
and if we secure an airfield or the mines who may have resources for us to also ...
I mean personally I’d prefer to set up a convoy and be semi-self reliant. We’d still have to rely on someone else maintaining a place we can pull from, but having a way to go and get it would be huge
hybrid hazel
issue is we cannot leave the region unless we all go
celest dragon
I can't dig trenches among the stars
Noooo a dwarf. /s
Okay. Enjoy your digging.
Feel free to tell the other Engis about our offer.
hybrid hazel
so if we're holding an area we will need another group to bring in supply
but that should be alright
warm hazel
Noooo a dwarf. /s
Okay. Enjoy your digging.
Feel free to tell the other Engis ab...
Tell your Logi trucks about ours
hybrid hazel
96 supply and a single medium if we're smart can restore all of it
warm hazel
And that is. Truck
astral nymph
issue is we cannot leave the region unless we all go
The other option would be if we were able to pull a cargo ship to join us... but that would require 3 folks wanting to do that and then just be YE OLD SPACE CARGO
celest dragon
Tell your Logi trucks about ours
None in the TF. But I’d love to.
astral nymph
which I mean... Hell to the yes, but I get not everyone wants to be space trucker sim in a military combat tabletop. Not everyone is as delulsional as me and finds that fun
hybrid hazel
yeah, space cargo would be appreciated but that doesn't seem to be an option for us currently unless we find people with the stuff to operate one
considering though, we can carry in 96 supply and move at speed 2 is solid
queen tendon
There’s always the option to split as well
warm hazel
One day I'll be able to fuel a stupid gimmick like this
hybrid hazel
splitting I don't think would be wise
astral nymph
theoretically 96 supply shooould be plenty....
warm hazel
For round one and two right?
astral nymph
I don't think its wise either. I'm pretty sure 86 supply is less then Hammer and Atlas used together all last campaign
hybrid hazel
we shouldn't reasonably burn through all of it unless we are soloing the literal necrons
in a short time frame
we are also moving in with Ultra likely
astral nymph
in a short time frame... no... across 15 turns, maybe. Depends on how heavy our damage is
hybrid hazel
so not everything is up to us on clearing out
warm hazel
With the size of our BG we are a painful force to deal with
hybrid hazel
if we haven't gotten the ability to resupply in 15 turns we are fucked anyways
warm hazel
5 arty being reloaded with multi tank and anti infantry
hybrid hazel
cause that means things have gone to hell planetwide
queen tendon
Supply has majorly changed since c3. Also our plan is to sustain in a place for a while, not a smash and grab. It’s hard to compare this to the other bgs
astral nymph
I only hope we can somehow work out a way to rearm our friends in the sky somewhat easily
warm hazel
We have a super cool QRF to help us
velvet scarab
2 of em
warm hazel
I only hope we can somehow work out a way to rearm our friends in the sky somewh...
I'd hate their job to be one and done
prisma nacelle
The other option would be if we were able to pull a cargo ship to join us... but...
Saldly spent the sign up rec point to make my engies
rich olive
There’s always the option to split as well
I do like the idea of splitting just because it lets us have a personal support BG and we can attach our planes to it if need be so they can go resupply with them
hybrid hazel
issue is splitting limits cooperation as much, we can consider it however later once we have more info
queen tendon
Plus it allows our fighters to refuel
hybrid hazel
there will also be airbases across the map
and I would be surprised if there wasn't one at the mine
queen tendon
Does it limit cooperation? I see it as being basically the same
hybrid hazel
I say we hold off for awhile on any split, see how our composition finalises.
rich olive
and I would be surprised if there wasn't one at the mine
honestly I don't think there would be one at the mine I would expect a rail system at most
queen tendon
I agree, I just think its worth thinking about
hybrid hazel
hopefully soon we get a bit more intel on the planet so we can decide how we may want to approach things more. I would be surprised if they didn't have ways to aircraft to refuel around strategic areas considering how they're forced to move with their battlegroup
terse knoll
there will also be airbases across the map
No intel on that. Assume that the one that BG9 (*Shovels) is building is the one we are getting.
And maybe a starport, if we can secure one.
warm hazel
So far not a big fan of a split
sand whale
BG9 is ultra correct?
BG7 is who we may be cooperating with
terse knoll
hopefully soon we get a bit more intel on the planet so we can decide how we may...
Shack does not make things easy for his players - don't assume anything.
hybrid hazel
true
queen tendon
So far not a big fan of a split
any particular reason why?
hybrid hazel
a split doesn't seem logical considering how much supply we can bring in on our backs
and operating together may be best.
if we can secure a single medium supply we can restock everything potentially
and fortifying a single location won't eat a lot of resources unless we are attacked by absurd forces
queen tendon
We would be operating together, thats the idea. We would just have the option to separate if we need a supply run and technically we would give two separate tac maps
rich olive
a split doesn't seem logical considering how much supply we can bring in on our ...
well I will say if we do split they can come in with us just they can leave without all our combat units coming with when we need more supplies
sand whale
We would be operating together, thats the idea. We would just have the option to...
Are we talking about merging with BG7?
hybrid hazel
no
queen tendon
no, splitting this bg into two bgs. One being logi and the other being combat
sand whale
Oh hell no
astral nymph
I think its a bad idea.... and not needed...
sand whale
Better cooperation if we stick together.
hybrid hazel
I think as it stands its an option, but not necessary at this time for us to decide or push the idea
queen tendon
If everything goes to plan and we have no problems with supplies it would work exactly the same as one large bg
We would be sticking together
hybrid hazel
as it stands, our combined force can carry 96 supply and move everyone effectively
warm hazel
any particular reason why?
I like the group dynamic and worked with others to try an pad out some of the roles to make this gimmick work for hauling
snow python
so arty, anyone got any fun ideas on how to coodinate our fire?
warm hazel
so arty, anyone got any fun ideas on how to coodinate our fire?
-4 defense and then a kill shot
Fuck your evasion
hybrid hazel
lets see what geography we dig ourselves into first
astral nymph
I can, as unlikely as this sounds, invision a situation where we are at say H-H or Hill, and suddenly need to send the logistics units back to Elim City for supplies. We do that, and they get intercepted by a spec ops bot force or air and we lose half of them....
So we'd need to send some defense escort, which limits frontline... additionally, god forbid lets say we needed to be on the map and evac a specific spot of infantry so they dont die as the position gets overrun. Trucks are still the best option for that.
I think IF we needed a desperate resupply and totally are unable with an airfield or something in our zone, we can get one of the two task forces to drop down with a sortie, refill us with 100 supply, and were definitely good for the rest of the match.
All that being said, I am not... super opposed to do it on paper, so that we have it in our backpocket as an absolute worst case scenario I suppose... it just feels really against the spirit of the rules to me.
hybrid hazel
to bad we cannot get a orbital to support us. a carrier / supply ship
velvet scarab
I don't like the idea of splitting but the idea of having the option to peel off as a last resort would be neat
hybrid hazel
or just one more truck but this one with medium supply
velvet scarab
Uncross that out rn
astral nymph
Its early still, one might join and be interested still. and we could split up into combat and logi BG if we needed too
queen tendon
For what its worth, I did bring it up to Shack and he had no issues with it.
Just to rephrase it a little bit, I see no functionally difference between having one large bg and two smaller ones, aside from the added benefit of being able to rearm our fighters without having our entire bg uproot and leave and the option to split up if needed. Best example being thunderstorm from C3. Worked in tandem despite technically being different bgs.
I'm not trying to push a decision now, just wanted to do my best to explain how I was thinking about it.
hybrid hazel
actually, if one of our trucks could carry a single medium, we will reduce our carry in by 10 but that medium could resupply everything if we could distribute it
rich olive
actually, if one of our trucks could carry a single medium, we will reduce our c...
I think we can only resupply with a medium if we can build a FOB
might be wrong about that
astral nymph
For what its worth, I did bring it up to Shack and he had no issues with it.
J...
Thats fair, i'm more okay with it if shack says so too.
queen tendon
Correct you need a FOB to pull from if you wnat to use a medium supply
astral nymph
I think we can only resupply with a medium if we can build a FOB
might be wrong...
We can yes, but we'd need to be able to build a FOB, and I do not think ANY (of the limited pool of Field Engineers we have) took the FOB upgrade.
queen tendon
Thats fair, i'm more okay with it if shack says so too.
what shack said if you wanted to look
#meta-comm message
brazen helm
we are 300 away from 6k messages!
astral nymph
Oh, we lost one of our mechs
hybrid hazel
I saw stuff talking about HQs earlier, is there locations on maps that could be captured that act as resupply points?
that doesn't need to be built?
queen tendon
maybe
rich olive
need to wait for the scans to come in
hybrid hazel
once the scans come in that'll help us determine a lot
astral nymph
Yeah its still really early, were just stressing over nothing right now for fun
hybrid hazel
exactly lol
rich olive
that's the best thing to do
queen tendon
I prefer to spend hours planning so that I can toss it out the window on day one
rich olive
no plan survives contact with the enemy (or players)
brazen helm
"plan a always goes up in flames"
hybrid hazel
my plan is "don't die"
astral nymph
So... cargo slots in HATs/VTOL/Trucks.
are we... positive in our numbers there... cause, if a cargo slot is being used for infantry... and its 5 per...Its not really a 1 to 1 ratio.... maybe my brain hurts cause i did math all day at work
I.. guess its right. if its not, it'd only be over by 4 if anything...
snow python
truck as 2 cargo slots, hats have 5. a cargo slot equals 5ss or 1 FS6 inf unit
Vtol can carry 2 ss along with 1 FS6 inf unit if im reading that right
willow lantern
Hey, I'm back. How's the team looking?
queen tendon
So... cargo slots in HATs/VTOL/Trucks.
are we... positive in our numbers there....
my math factors this in
astral nymph
Welcome back Bread, its looking good. We are quite the proper fighting force at the time..
I thought it did Crazy, I was just looking. really appreciate you taking the time to do that.
willow lantern
How's the logi situation? Still only 2 trucks?
velvet scarab
5 baby
astral nymph
We have 5 now, and with the VTOLs and Hats and thanks to Axx's amazing math (I think one other person was helping..) we are scheduled to deploy with 86 supply total (assuming we move at speed 2) which is a very healthy number
we are not a QRF, so I don't think we need to move at speed 3... (Which we could do but would only have 36 supply if we did)
willow lantern
Damn, didn't expect 3 additional logi over the course of one single day
astral nymph
It's good. we could deploy right now as is and be golden
velvet scarab
Damn, didn't expect 3 additional logi over the course of one single day
One of the existing ones knows me and offered me a bribe to show up, knowing I'd choose logitruck
And then they kept showing up
willow lantern
Lol
astral nymph
we really appreciate his and your sacrafice bribe
without those trucks, we are in a muuuch worse shape. Still doable, just... not anywhere near as functional.
velvet scarab
we really appreciate his and your sacrafice ~~bribe~~
o7
willow lantern
Now we'll be able to hold the hill till the end of time
velvet scarab
One truck per arty wooooo
astral nymph
or even push north if need be. we have everything we need....
Though everything I waaant would be a cargo support ship, but thats INCREDEBLY unlikely and 90% of us playing share that want lol
brazen helm
i think we may see the pendulum swing WAY to hard c7 and have a bunch of orbital logi
velvet scarab
Chrono, me, and a few others are already talking about using our payout from this campaign to get a logistics orbital setup
Have seen a few others chattering about the same
astral nymph
It wont be as bad as C2 given you need multible players to man an orbital
C2 was something else lol
velvet scarab
We are reaaaal close to 6k in our comms now
astral nymph
Highlight of C2 (well there was a few) but one of them was ElectricHalo's corvette armed with broadside cannons running between two battleships above the battle all guns blazing.
velvet scarab
Most active comms by far
astral nymph
shhh, don't bring it up. we don't want to get slowmoed lol
quaint ember
Chrono, me, and a few others are already talking about using our payout from thi...
Damn
velvet scarab
Ive been keeping an eye on it and it just keeps going up and up and up lol
brazen helm
we are gaming
meta-gaming?
velvet scarab
Afaik chrono is gonna try to get a few people to chip in on the 2nd largest hull and just fill it with hangar/mech bays, Mecha to walk on the hill to defend it, hangars full of HATs to go do funny HAT things and then come back
brazen helm
you really like that gif
velvet scarab
Logitruckers are special
modest pagoda
We are
velvet scarab
I would know
modest pagoda
We're special in numerous ways
queen tendon
I am gonna log off for the night, ping me if you need me
modest pagoda
Gn
brazen helm
gn
velvet scarab
So long cowpoke
queen tendon
I'm gonna dream in supply lines and logistics
fallen yarrow
does anyone know if I can activate a unit at this time?
honest quail
speaking of supplies, you think the cities will have supply depots that have/make supplies. Ive been wondering if we have to rely on large logi orbitals for supplies entirely
fallen yarrow
(is SAM back up)
modest pagoda
does anyone know if I can activate a unit at this time?
You can
velvet scarab
Think so
brazen helm
to my knowledge sam never went down really maybe except the first hour
modest pagoda
Ah
astral nymph
I'm gonna dream in supply lines and logistics
hybrid hazel
We’ll just replace it with another truck
hybrid hazel
what happened to straight from the mines and into the front lines lol
snow python
oh the guy justs makes them based on the name from my understanding.
does it for shits and giggles
hybrid hazel
neat
astral nymph
HE'S DONE IT AGAIN ahahha
snow python
yup, My unit is totally adding that patch to their armour. just under the Iron Hammer patch.
velvet scarab
We’ll just replace it with another truck
🙏 please let it be so
wintry swan
It would be cool if fighters got this upgrade too
wintry swan
I wonder if Elim City is close enough to the Hill Mine that a fighter could reach it within a turn
If so it would help to mitigate our airfield concerns
hybrid hazel
can't move out of the battlegroup region without doing a sortie, and that costs 1 large supply to maintain a turn
so hopefully we end up in an area with an airfield to control or that someone gets an airfield up
pretty sure though we can get a temp airfield up
what aircraft can land on temp airfields? and I assume Vtols can land more freely compared to other aircraft or no?
supposedly we will be getting some intel in the near future so we can figure out how well we can rearm our aircraft
velvet scarab
what aircraft can land on temp airfields? and I assume Vtols can land more freel...
Anything with the rugged upgrade I think
hybrid hazel
well, mildly good news there are support task forces forming so I'll assume at least one will travel along the north with us
velvet scarab
Yippee (tentatively)
sand whale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211454073383952395/1382568456620347443/D...
Who made that?
indigo willow
For signing up on the Google sheet what counts as a Veteran player?
sand whale
For signing up on the Google sheet what counts as a Veteran player?
Is this your first time?
If no.
You’re a veteran!
indigo willow
Is this your first time?
No only done one of the smaller campaigns but I guess I count as a veteran then!
vestal mountain
No only done one of the smaller campaigns but I guess I count as a veteran then!
rock and stone brother!
snow python
Who made that?
J. Jordan
hybrid hazel
quick question, if everyone is mounted in vehicles and all artillery hitched, the only thing keeping our overall speed down is the battle tanks correct? since all other vehicles have 3+ speed
rich olive
quick question, if everyone is mounted in vehicles and all artillery hitched, th...
the MBTs and the IFVs
hybrid hazel
ah I see. well, steady forward seems to be the approach then. if the city area we land at is under control, it will take less time to move into and across other neutral zones anyways I believe with how strategic moves work
rich olive
yeah as I understand it we will have 2 movement to strategic move assuming the points we move through are neutral/friendly controlled
charred widget
Idk
hybrid hazel
its an investment at this point
frank grotto
if we could trade rec or bonus pay the betting market would be thriving
charred widget
…remind me to forward this to red press
frank grotto
no..... dont make SAM work that hard
sand whale
Dwarf .... :)
astral nymph
https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-good-morning-vietnam-robin-williams-gif-5379373
Alright, I am up way to late night all. sleep well. I'll do this in the morning
chilly bridge
Close to 6k messages... holy shit
sand whale
Do we have a taskforce?
sick matrix
Do we have a taskforce?
As of now, no
queen tendon
what aircraft can land on temp airfields? and I assume Vtols can land more freel...
Just a rugged hat which Armco has 0 of
brazen helm
morning dwarves!
sick matrix
wintry swan
what aircraft can land on temp airfields? and I assume Vtols can land more freel...
Only rugged hats, of which we have none in Armco
I see Axx already answered
sick matrix
Damn, who knew tracking all information would take me the whole hour.
night quarry
Who do I tell that I'm not a veteran and that I'm basic starting Engineer?
Saw the link to the spreadsheet of who's what and what they have.
brazen helm
you just change it your self!
night quarry
K
queen tendon
Welcome to the hill
modest pagoda
queen tendon
Updated the supply calculator, will now prefer to group the 4FS units into groups of three onto the trucks if possible
silent glade
medics+LV is a good combo too, just efficient in speed
brazen helm
ill be sure to run people around as needed
queen tendon
for sure, this is just to give an amount of supplies we can hold wiht our current roster
brazen helm
the offical dwarven bus network
containing only a single bus
and it only holds 4 guys
silent glade
we also got a 6 man ferry
soft bloom
Mornin boss
queen tendon
morning
brazen helm
monring
sharp canopy
moonring
vivid vessel
Mornin' fellow dwarves
fading dune
silver widget
Morning, well almost afternoon for me lol
lavish ledge
Morning fellow mineral enthusiast
chilly bridge
Good evening xD
Just checked the sheet... we're building a pretty well-build BG honestly
astral nymph
We have everything we need to function as a well built BG.
The only thing we could possibly want at this point would be a Cargo Ship to put us down turn 1 and assist in taking the space port at Emil or whatever the city is called. BUT i highly doubt were getting that
chilly bridge
Yeah, probably not. TF2 seems to want to build a DC focused TF, but I also saw them mentioning rabbit or so, so we'll probably have to wait till someone secures Emil
chilly bridge
We have everything we need to function as a well built BG.
The only thing we c...
Btw Nalla, since we're well above 30 members, do you already want a second or is the number still fine with you?
astral nymph
I'll probably want a second primary but it also depends on maps and how this stratigic layer stuff pans out. I don't think we can turn in 2 maps
civic folio
I would like to apply to Dwarf Fortress, I see the roster sheet, but I dont want to just go and start putting my stuff in without at least talking to someone here first.
First drop, MBT (looks like if im accepted, if make 4, making a technical IRL Tank Platoon 🥳) ive got experience under my belt with other games for the last 4 years such as PF2e. Let me know if you would like another shiny MBT on the field laying down hate.
astral nymph
As we lost our Lance Mech at 4, we will happily take a Tank Platoon. Welcome to the fort.
Bell ring new migrants have arrived
chilly bridge
I'll probably want a second primary but it also depends on maps and how this str...
Fair enough. I can fill the spot of a second, but honestly @silent glade wanted to be Taccom for a long time now xD
silent glade
this is true xD
civic folio
(Side note too, I think once I get my MBT to where I want it, I might start building out either CAS or Orbital since it seems like Orbital is struggling this campaign to fit everyone.)
Edit: if it survives of course, but I have faith.
silent glade
i did have a thought, that we could split the job between a few Sub Tac Coms who send their maps into the main taccom who just has to colate those into 1 map
since we have so many willing volunteers
chilly bridge
I'm fine being back-up if either of you is unavailable for some time^^
silent glade
(Side note too, I think once I get my MBT to where I want it, I might start buil...
there was some talk of a bunch of us taking all our rec from this campaign and building up a whole supply logi orbital TF
queen tendon
My map making is also always available
hybrid hazel
Rock and stone brothers
warm hazel
Oh more chatter about the Logi orbi idea? Yeah got a few people to agree so far to crew the 2nd biggest ship if we end up living
Rock and stone
hybrid hazel
I see we have another engineer to stuff into a vehicle somewhere. Going to try to Tetris again cause I think we can definitely squeeze in more supply
warm hazel
I would like to apply to Dwarf Fortress, I see the roster sheet, but I dont want...
Quite happy to have some more armor for the wall. Got some heavy rain to soften up your targets
hybrid hazel
4 MBTs with 5 arty will definitely be our heavy hitters
warm hazel
We can keep them all loaded and firing for awhile. And with the engi crews we seemingly have the ability to have a dedicated engi next to each tank
astral nymph
this is true xD
Then all yours
warm hazel
Honestly I feel bad for the bots that run into that meat grinder
Well I guess scrapper would be a better term
astral nymph
(^.^) its a lot of fun Swenfeld, take the spot if you want it.
civic folio
I mean, Dwarves are known for smithing, so we are gonna hammer the hell out of them
hybrid hazel
I think a steady march across the north will allow us to break down any resistance
warm hazel
Updated the supply calculator, will now prefer to group the 4FS units into group...
Good lord speed 3? Let's gooooo
warm hazel
I mean, Dwarves are known for smithing, so we are gonna hammer the hell out of t...
We take the mines and make masterworks
queen tendon
Doing the math we cannot feasibly be self deployed
warm hazel
We are gonna be stuck with the NPC ships
queen tendon
we need 9 more HATs or 18 more HVTOLs just for our vehicles
hybrid hazel
Not happening lol
warm hazel
Nope
silent glade
(^.^) its a lot of fun Swenfeld, take the spot if you want it.
id certainly like to do some, you were talking about splitting the job too so you can still do it too
hybrid hazel
We are effectively a main army at this point
silent glade
We are effectively a main army at this point
we are getting pretty chunky
warm hazel
Yeah when we land we are gonna be pretty well off. But the other forces need to clear the way for our fat BG to land
Can't wait to see them bring the storm
hybrid hazel
Not the fastest but well armed and capable to face many obstacles. Biggest issue is we don’t have access to more advanced engineering structures but we’ll make do
warm hazel
We got a lot of rank and file engineering teams but I am very happy to have them with how much armor we are moving around
queen tendon
Well 3 speed can cover most of the planet if we need to go quick
hybrid hazel
Just to confirm when I do my own supply calculation, arty does carry 2 supply with them correct?
astral nymph
id certainly like to do some, you were talking about splitting the job too so yo...
I was, 25 is a very managable number, but lets talk more about it once we have maps and intel. I wouldnt want to dump 50 on you on your first go. 😄
queen spear
We’re counting on you guys to hold the northern route essentially while most of us focus crossroads
queen tendon
Just to confirm when I do my own supply calculation, arty does carry 2 supply wi...
correct, they pop open their gun and slam down their supplies next to it
warm hazel
Well 3 speed can cover most of the planet if we need to go quick
That is why I am really happy about seeing that as a possibility. Lemme guess, loading the two speed vehicles into the trucks?
queen tendon
or hats
warm hazel
Shouldn't take us any time to just dart to the hill. Oh dang yeah that too
queen tendon
I will say, the math requires hats
warm hazel
Are they able to be para dropped without an upgrade?
queen tendon
wait lemme see
hybrid hazel
Alright. I’m going to take a lot here shortly at our vehicles and possible supply combinations. If we had one more engineer I could make it work very nicely
warm hazel
I know infantry has that base
hybrid hazel
(Since 6 engineers in two trucks is easy)
warm hazel
And we can load cars into the trucks and empty them and without landing dump hat cargo into the trucks
astral nymph
The issue with speed 3 is that, we have to abandon allof our supply basically
hybrid hazel
We cannot afford to abandon the supply
civic folio
Also, for this being my first ever drop, im kinda here to supply a gun and kinda watch how things work in practice. As far as strategy, there are a lot of people here with more experience than I in this particular game, so I hope to learn how the bigger picture works as we go and then next campaign can really help on input for planning.
warm hazel
I mean yeah. And there is nothing for our plans within speed 3 anyway
queen spear
Could beg another group with high speed to clear for you
Idk which group that would be though
warm hazel
Was just quite happy to see it as a possibility
warm hazel
We cannot afford to abandon the supply
With the fortification levels we plan to do at the mines? We are gonna need every box we bring
queen tendon
I can't upload a file
hybrid hazel
And there is a chance we need to move beyond the fortifications also.
If the eastern city is taken we won’t be needed there likely
astral nymph
Also, for this being my first ever drop, im kinda here to supply a gun and kinda...
No worries, we can't really do any planning right now either as we are severly lacking in intel so early on. I'm expecting some intel updates in the next day or so. Our only 'issue' is that we can't deploye turn 1, but that is shared by 80% of the BGs so, nothing to be done about it.
warm hazel
Mhm, we might need to move up from the mines but that is likely after we get hit with a resupply. A single medium supply will just explode our stocks
hybrid hazel
Hopefully storm somehow survives and actually secures the east star port lol
silent glade
speed 2 aint bad really, and its alot safer to all stay together in convoy if thats something we need to do
civic folio
But mines are a dwarfs natural habitat 😎
queen tendon
So for 2 speed we need 0 slots in a HAT and/or truck for vehicles. For speed 3, we need 5 which conveniently means we could slap them in all our trucks. Now the supply math would be a little different because we have to be less efficient with fitting our 4 FS infantry types but yeah its a possibility
hybrid hazel
Also, having the tanks ready to tango is a bit bonus
queen spear
Hopefully storm somehow survives and actually secures the east star port lol
I mean I don’t think any of us expect heavy enemy presence in Elim City. At most an expeditionary force that’s just a small stepping stone to getting the star port
warm hazel
speed 2 aint bad really, and its alot safer to all stay together in convoy if th...
I'm happy we even got to speed 2 with having 5 arty
hybrid hazel
Elim is the western city isn’t it?
queen spear
But yeah storm might take casualties coming in based on their luck. We will see
queen tendon
So for 2 speed we need 0 slots in a HAT and/or truck for vehicles. For speed 3, ...
can people see this? apparently I'm having discord issues
civic folio
speed 2 aint bad really, and its alot safer to all stay together in convoy if th...
Not only safer, but also more dangerous for the enemy
queen spear
Elim is the western city isn’t it?
Yep they are landing elim to secure the starport for the npc transports
astral nymph
can people see this? apparently I'm having discord issues
Yes we can see this
queen tendon
idk whats going on but cool
warm hazel
So for 2 speed we need 0 slots in a HAT and/or truck for vehicles. For speed 3, ...
I can see. Yeah it looks possible
silent glade
idk whats going on but cool
yeha i was wondering wtf was going on xD
hybrid hazel
Then Storm is rushing the eastern city to slow bot drops and strike at them
queen tendon
I'm more bringing this up as a "we gotta get outta here as quick as possible" we can pack up and speed three out
queen spear
I mean they are going to go east but I think everyone has brought their expectations back a bit and are planning on getting stalled at Crossroads by the main enemy force
hybrid hazel
Likely. So while the crossroads is a large battleground we deny the enemy the mines and see how things go from there if possible
warm hazel
Speed 3 plans are good to have as a FUCK moment when we need to ditch supply and get the fuck out
hybrid hazel
Artillery will help us siege out fortifications and we have plenty of manpower to take ground if need be
warm hazel
But the hope is to never use it
warm hazel
Artillery will help us siege out fortifications and we have plenty of manpower t...
I cannot wait to hammer down the bots
hybrid hazel
We also have a fair amount of VTOLs, so hopefully if the enemy lacks AA to deal with flanking maneuvers, if we go up against defenses we may also flank them
astral nymph
If someone else really wants it, I am okay with them having it, as much fun as I have with it
hybrid hazel
I think we’ll need two since we’re over 30 people
warm hazel
We could all do it together at once on a shared screen 'u '