#Battlegroup 2 - Venator: Comms
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Hmm could go around asking people
Open terrain is beneficial to tanks, lets think of that after the city is secured and we push out.
If the solid lines are roads, than I assume we’d be Elim -> LH -> Crossroads -> Ziyal
😜 we do also have VTOLs and HATs
That’s the hope and plan
yes but I feel a lot safer when my metal coffin is on the ground instead of in the air
also HATs are for paradrops
that is NOT safe transport
as much as i love HATs
Likely. Depends on the TFs…but one of the strong assumptions is that we’ll end up using the Automated Freighters (NPCs) to land at a “secured” spaceport.
stares off remembering the fireball ride
hhm yes that "secured" fills me with loads of confidence.
I would like my medics to be able to heal me, not put me in a casket, closed
well we'll just fight our way out
I mean, IFV blows up and you go with it too. But I get what you’re saying and we’ll see what ends up happening.
Look if we fight our way out we can flank the enemy
so how am i arriving, do i just get yeeted from orbit like V3, shipped in a metal box labeled spare parts or something else?
I more mean to draw attention to the condition. Meaning if bots have all the spaceports, we’ll need units deployed to take it before the automated freighters will work
true
but
the IFVs will be behind the tanks
and there are 14 tanks
if the 14 tanks all die we have other problems
Ah i see, that's an interesting strategy
Without being paired with a TF, I’m not 100% sure how the movement from the gate to the space port will work. We’ll have to see.
indeed we shall
Keep in mind, they need to be setup with SAM and be on this doc in order to get in this BG and there’s a hard limit of 60.
the enemy wouldn't put all there AT in one place, would they?
the other two are not coming
enemy heavy mechs are
real
and they exist
Just didn’t want your pals to miss the slots if y’all were wanting to group again.
dont worry ill strafe them, they cant shoot me, right?
yeah, thanks man
Hey Dave should I attempt at summoning marl
I’m gonna start drifting off. Ping me if y’all need something and I’ll either reply soon after or when I wake back up. lol
Have a good one
What do you peeps think will summon Marl
Yes?
Currently liberating a city
I was going over options on summoning you
A ping should do fine in that
Ok
I think this will be great
same here
I think we may need a few more bits and bobs here and there but otherwise we're set
can't wait to larp as a Pz.Gren.
Yeah the thing that is missing is just the orbital transports.
Do we have a repair option for our Tanks etc?
Good to know
Y'all got space for another IFV or nah?
Well sign me up! My unit is ready to kick some arse!
Damn, there are so many people here who can make such cool shit
JOIN US!
4 slots left
I am very sleepy lol
I am going to be in hell tracking/logging this aren’t I?
Good evening pirate and Xsword.
you can try to enlist some peeps to help Electro
also from what I see on the BG sheet the timezone idea was not yet added
@smoky junco @sage crane I think for the last 4 units we should get fighters.
That’s a pretty good idea actually
Or some form of AA
Since tanks are going to be vulnerable to air
Or logistics
We’ve got some
Logistics is sorta covered by the VTOLs, since engineers can carry their own supplies
Yeah, am going to closed down the infantry and vehicles sections.
Yeah we have enough infantry and tanks
might leave two slots for trucks
from what I see other BGs have max 5 MBTs in them
Oh
No so the tracker checks if its blank or if it has something there
Not 82
So putting “CLOSED” means the tracker has to note it
And marl is marking them closed lol
Yeah lmao
Yep, btw why does our counter say we have 87?
exel voodo perhaps
Because when you change the thing
It logs it
It’s logging closed
should i change it back?
yeah i can do that.
Leaving 4 spots for the aircraft and logi
Eh?
What happen?
I have assumed direct control for the unit total
And did it manualy
Fancy math be damned
We’re at 55
alright
What else do we want then
Idk
We’ve got a wild card slot open
So 2 fighters, 2 logi and some random guy
56*
Sorry
Yeah that should be fine.
Ignore the wild card one medic wasn’t showing up on the total
It is done
Well
Hm
Great question
We’re basically relying on the orbitals or the spaceport
So when we figure that out
That’s the plan
Where will the mechs go
Yeah I was thinking the same
If we can't get to ziyal by orbital then we might have to march from elim to cross road and to ziyal.
Have the engineers/infantry ride the IFVs behind the tanks for suport
Won’t be a issue considering we’re all vehicle or mechanised
And the few who can’t can go VTOL
Or aircraft
I think we have enough transport actually
And if we don’t currently, we will if we have 2 more Logi trucks
I propose the turtle formation
We’ve got enough for when we’re on the ground but getting around via air outside of small deployment Is not viable
Go on
lol
Hmmm
Also in other news
#1382040199797801031 message
BG3 has gone mad
There doing a thunderstruck
If we had PAI with shields we could have done that.
6 HATS. That’s not all of our forces, but that’s an appreciable amount in a pinch
Now I know I’m not one to talk, given in the one who wanted to do operation GORDON and crash a train
Oh lol
But BG3 is not going to survive that drop
Wow
It may delay our deployment
Yeah uh there was a bit of a reason thunderstruck even worked
Because we’re not LEEROY JENKINSING
It was that we all didn’t hot drop lmao
perhaps it's a good thing I escaped that group
Oh shit, this basically confirms that the bots are in elim and prob has set up their stuff.
Still
Unless the orbital task forces lock in
We’re not exactly good at landing operations due to our force comp
We’re better at large open battles
Alright we are too fully assume the planets forces has fallen and the bots has complete control over the planet.
…all I’m saying
***We have to be VERY careful on what we do. ***
Eh
I’dd rather we not loose units during a drop
Our strength is in our number of tanks
We can’t afford to loose any during drop
True
We drop safety, or not at all
Am going to spread the news to redwall and spearhead about what shack has said.
Tiger
Storm probably will ignore the warning
I look forward to getting more intel, hopefully. I'd like to not fly into a potential hornets nest blind.
exactly even the cap said its going to be a bumpy ride
so probably better to be safe
They already think shack gave them the go ahead XD
There going to die horibly
Even I think this is dumb
AND IM THE ONE WHO HAD THE IDEA TO CRASH THE TRAIN AND BOARD THE BATTLESHIP IN C2
All of which worked perfectly somehow.
Don’t ask me how that worked
I don’t know how either
Yeah i have no idea either but hey it worked you much have a 10 luck special stat
I know we have a couple of fighters. They could in theory escort one or two hats at a time. Would be slow for deployment but safe for air units. We just have to watch the ground fire
Or wait for the spaceports to be open and deploy en mass
BTW I’m going to have a word with BG9 about using there airfield to base our aircraft
We could. But if that's not an option and the othe BG's are bogged down by enemy armor it's an option to get some units on the ground to support them.
Yeah sure
Trucks or fighters would be good. More likely the trucks.
Trucks are good for our infantry
But we’re an armour regiment
I like it, but we may need to be... ambitious in our group sizes to deploy with any efficency.
And we already have VTOLs for moving infantry
Meh
The more than likely idea is landing with the NPC freighter
Using logi trucks as mobile distribution hubs and such
It’s the only way we actually can unless Atlas actually forms
TF2?
I think fighters are more important tbh
2 of each was the idea me and marl had
Since we’re at 56
I mean
Maybe?
Imo fighters are more important as we already have a ton of logi from the HATs and VTOLs if needed
With 6 hats and the hvtols and vtols, 2 fighters aren't gonna be much cover or escort
Yeah maybe full send the fighters
I really just don’t see the use case
Eh
Literally both of our supply users (arty and engis) are gonna be quite converntrated
Just trying to reinforce our logistics
Meaning we can just paradrop the supply
Having ground supply would be better if the engineers needed to rush forward to repair tanks near the front
With a bulldozer tank they can
Having ground logistics will full any gaps in air droped supply
I think having air cover so our units actually touch down is more important
A mix of ground and air logisitcs is what we need
Air bringing it in, ground storing it localy
Disabled armor might have to wait for engis to roll up if the front lines to hot. Even dropping them with vtols puts the vtols in danger as well as with trucks rolling up.
That’s why we have 2 HVTOL
They pick up the tanks and bring em back
Ok what about a 3-1 split
So we’d have 2 logi truck overall
And 5 fighters
Yeah that works big time
Then we go in waves, split into groups of 4 to 6, easier to cover that way, mid sized transport wings with some air cover at least. Go to big we risk coverage, to small time. It will be difficult to find a balance.
I still don’t Think going in with the first wave is wise
Alright yeah that should work.
We’re not even equipped for that kind of operation
As a reminder we literally can only drop all together
5 fighters mean almost every hat gets an escort. Throw the extra hat in close to the back of the formation should cover them enough to land
Either on the NPCs or on Atlas if it gets good
We need to come in together for maximum effectiveness
Atlas is slowing forming up
So we may have orbtial transport
Ah yes that's right, though I'm more concerned with when we get down there and any movement after that.
Oh when we move we move together
WE ARE THE TANK WALL
En masse armor would be ideal but if we have to land in waves it buys time for a secured area of landing.
Yea I agree, I'm not advocating for a gung ho rush in.
Oh btw briny you got a wingman.
the only large scale movement will me strategic latee
Layer
I heard I'm very happy.
BG3 is, there going to die lol
Where most of our forces are on the ground and any speed 1s are in the air
I dont like the idea of "landing at point rain" anymore than the next person but it could work with escorts
On a tac map level we can’t really move the whole BG with HATs because no one can build an airfield
The trench enthusiasts are
It would make for an interesting narrative story at least.
I’ve asked if we can use it
To bad the hats cant just fly low and slow enough to dump us out the back on the ground
And if we can make our own airfield somewhere
Uh since when😭
I was talking with Martel and they said no one had the upgrade too
We can coordinate with the Krieg enthusiasts and get a supply corridor going
It would but it would cut our armor down 2/3s if that happened and we'd struggle to link back up if we get pinned by a superior force
Didn't the shovel boys make Airfields in campaign 2?
Oh. Rip
Martel is the TAC for Redwall
Hvtols can bring 1 tank right? Plus whatever inf they can fit?
I See i See
Just the tank
Dave’s bringing a bunker and the other is bringing the SHBT
Yea I'd rather not lose any transports,thanks to the last campaign I've got a radio message from an ace combat game stuck in my head of just "no another ones down!"
Damn. Was thinking we could drop 2 tanks plus inf and set up something if needed.
We’ll be fine
We will be cautious and thus loose no one
Probably but I'll be watching like a hawk.
No offence but losing the HATs would be only logistical issue
Eeeeh Idd rather Loose no one
Obviously
That's the goal
I meant once we’re planet side we will have very few people on the HATs
Obviously issue if they die
But it’s not a Storm moment
Where we lose half the force
Matchs up with my lore that dawn is a prototype SHBT destroyer from 60 od years ago
Regarldess
We are going in NPC transport
Nobody dies on the drop
Also, complimentary popcorn will be provided to watch the madness of BG3
*unless we can get Atlas to drop us and it’s faster
Yeah lol
Oh btw xsword did you see what shack said in BG 3?
Nah
I’m only in this one I don’t have the brain space to be in many
As dres pointed out armor 4 or more means you can easily tank a significant amount of fire. I'm fine with armor 3 myself
Ah yeah he’d okayd the idea before
It is likely that the planet has already fallen.
Not fun
exterminatus is all I’m saying
TBH I don’t think it has
not what we're getting paid for
Simply because then why the fuck would we get paid if they’re all already dead
Eh
Well we still don't know if the bots take slaves or not plus the mines are important for the bots.
So my guess is we’re gonna have a haven where we arrive and the last city is still fighting
Lads, BG9 may be going cross roads
Payed to scrap the robot's and recover data?
The dwarves are handling the mines
We’ll just have to roll with the intel
So we may have the TRENCH ENTHUSASTS on side
For now we stick to the original plan: Viyal if we can land there, if not, Elim and push forward with speed
Mmm the French expeditionary corps? Or at least what autocorrect wanted you to say?
Copy that, now we just need to find 3 fighters and a logi truck.
Good luck with those exams lads!
Good luck!
Good luck on that
Right so just because I'm paranoid, is there a way to check and make sure my unit is actually in the campaign, I have already done /activate unit, was there anything else?
SHBT most likely going to be....
2d6, Speed 1, Armor 3, Hits 5. with a single use fuel tank built in for +1 speed for 1 round.
Dug up shacks message for dawn's stats and I got a extra hit from what I remember
I think they were talking about the little moon
Okay nice.
Btw i like to put importance on to this bit of intel, we must take down these factories asap with our armour force.
Was just reading on that, It's definitely of utmost importance, assuming someone else's bombers dont get them first.
GENTLEMEN
I HAVE A PLAN
We steal the factories
Not destroy them
and build our own drone army
oh OH.
Holy shit that might work
Yet again my mad brilliance works again
A shame we don't have cyberwarfare units, it'd be cheaper to let some Digimon into their systems and see how prepared the bots are for possessor-ghosts :V
Yup I knew that XD... on that note i should probably get some sleep. Later all. 👋
True that, maybe engineers could roll for it.
Night lad.
Someone seems to have pasted at least part of the Bee Movie script at the bottom of our battlegroup spreadsheet.
legend
who said it was just part
It was the whole script
Okay.
WHO DELETED IT
Not me.
WHO REMOVED THE ENTIRE BEE MOVIE SCRIPT FROM THE DOC
I still see it there so I don't know what you're talking about?
How do you know you're going mad, what if it's the world going mad and you're the sane one?
You misunderstand
I am borderline insane
Well… was
Sanity is overrated
Fixed very minor parity issue between aircraft and vehicles tab also fixed col 14 being tall on spread sheet
Thanks lad!
also made aircraft dynamic count work with closed positions
Hey guys, wanted to check - I’ve seen something about position for a fighter in your BG. Is it still open?
I believe so
Oh yeah we are in need of fighters
just sign up on the doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UHGlNn1ZXIP8rIu9QWqMFo7ZV4ymA8vPaqTyWFgEPag/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Thx
Are we sure we want five fighters but only two logistic trucks?
Mmmm
Air superiority is very good for our tanks though.
And we have 3 air logistics (vtols)
And a crap ton of HAT that can paradorp supplies AFAIK (though they also need safeish airspace)
Oooh, I forgot that air logistics existed too.
Hats off to our one lone LV, lol.
I'd welcome them to roll alongside us light mechs.
What would be really usefull would be an engineer with a temp airfield upgrade 🤔
Scouting is important ^^
Our BG is more of an scout in force kinda deal xD
Do we want to organize some formations within the battlegroup ahead of time, or wait until we're boots on the ground for that?
I think having the map of Z-city would be somewhat required for that or at least very beneficial
I agree with Lars here
Especially when we don’t know enemy capabilities
If they have a big fuck off rocket grouping up isn’t a fantastic idea
I was thinking more in terms of, "having a concrete idea of what each of us is going to be aiming for," rather than, "sticking close together at all times."
Last I looked 15 mbts, we can split 3 groups of 5. Enough firepower and have a section with the dawn to bring heavy fire on groups of targets. Might allows to be more flexible and move easier.
Sticking to my statement here
if we dont know what is where on the map then there is no point in talking about a formation from my POV if the map is mostly city then planning will probably work differently than if there is quite the area available around the city and so on
I don't know if that was awnsered here but this was discussed wasn't it? The re arming of HATs wit supply
Sorry 14 mbts plus the shbt
So if there's an airfield to take hold of in Ziyal already, we probably want that as a priority, no?
Probably yes
If there is no airfield I read it as the hats have to leave on our controlled edge of the map to rearm 🤷♂️
But idk about that
Yes in essence for not knowing objectives but I was thinking if the last resort is to drop in waves having the armor in sections allows them to land together and work together until the next section arrives. Just a thought.
Would we happen to know if this is an accurate map of Ziyal, or just some placeholder?
If it is, unfortunately nothing's sticking out to me as an airfield. Save maybe the North East or South East corners if the clankers are converting one of the open spaces into an airfield.
That might be the city center. But yea an airfield doesn't stick out
Even zooming in to elim city and crossroads it doesn't look like there's an airfield there either.
We do kinda need the fighters to defend our air transports, they are critical to our logistics.
Since I have no clue abt tanks
Do they need supplies to fire? Or just for repairs by engineers?
Just repairs
Oh, we are mostly full now?
57 / 60
We can't drop in waves
I feel like a broken record
We have 2 ways to enter the map: Get an orbital to land us at the starport(NPC or PC doesn't matter) or we land at Elims one and then move to Ziyal via the ground
Groups of at least 3 so they can at least take out other mbt like units in 1 go
Both of which we all enter the map in a big group
I'm hoping it's just a place holder cause there are a lot of streets there I don't think I will fit down
It's not the tac map at least
Because theres 3 sections to a city you have to move through to get through it now
@supple beacon I remember you asking about dawn's model, I have realized I've forgotten to paint a lot of the finer details so it will be a few days until I've got photos to show
I think the MBT's should roll in groups of 5 as the bots arent going to go around alone and being able to delete enermy tank's even if they have buddies to share the damage would be a great way to start a fight snowballing in our favor. With the other two BG's attacking the city with us its going to get crowded. if we are in a more open area we can split into groups of 3 or spread out more
I think lets just wait and see
It's all good saying XYZ but if we get down there and it's narrow streets that fit one mbt, or if the enemy don't even have tanks, or if we are immediatly going ot be fighting then it's very different
Ah alright then lad.
Yeah we are close to being full
Full*
Well were going to be burning fuel!
We'll probably be able to build a hill with all the tank shells that'll be fired
As a note, one of them is quad AA
Anywhere this battlegroup needs me, I'll be reporting for duty
right
are you asking to join us?
No I'm already in
Mako was asked to join early on and I followed suit
i am having to track dozzens of units lol
You guys need to start turning people away right?😂
We are except fighters and logi!
That's quite understandable lol don't beat yourself up
Mako and Kodiak, dream team
also red press antics
and had to sort out missing parts for some ktis earlier
Checking the doc
Another day in the life of a tac com then haha
There appears to be an artillery in the Logi spot
thats not the logi spot
logi spot is belov
we are 3-1 for air logi
well
2-1 now
since were on 57/60
3 away from full
WHY DO WE HAVE A SHERMAN?!
Must have changed then
more like the last unit to join before we capped who can join
I know someone has already commented and updated me for Ops Log, but I'll just drop this here in case. Ops Log should now be accurate, but if you guys have any updates, you guys can add it in and I'll edit it to make it fit. Thanks.
how good are Vtols are air-to-air defense? I reckon they aren't as strong as fighters, but we've got 3 of them and 2 Heavy VTOL's to help make up for our lack of fighters defending the HATs we have
Checked the rules and afaik they might be able to help
I thought vtols can't go air to air unless they buy an aa missile upgrade 🤔
But maybe I'm misreading/misremembering that
No that's probably me
I'm on my phone rn it's not very convenient to read the rules
Yeah I can't find anything on that but you're probably right
Yh I dint find anything either. D2 probably can't functionally damage an enemy fighter? If I understood air combat right....
If not then they don't have access to the intercept order so also not very usefull
Fighters have armor 0 and work with the hit system, so any hit should be registered I think?
Or maybe I missed something
nah, i'd win a fight against a fighter
you'd just ram it
Oh you're the quad AA MBT?
Yes
Nice! Looking forward to seeing how that turret works
Should help offset the fact that other AA require supply to rearm
I had 2 req to spend but I decided to save it
The AV/AA missiles just seem a little too expensive for what they do
Pfff
def will strap 3 Sierra onto my Arty once I have the points lol
True, no resupply stat, so I'll show no restrain
Low Orbit defense dedication
We'll get an idea of time scale with this campaign. The strategic layer makes guessing length harder
I also suspect the supply contracts will be much more worthwhile on the smaller jobs where you might need to cover multiple roles
True
But 2 req for a 1 time use AA rocket is
A little harsh
If there was a reload involved I’d be more inclined but currently it’s
Not the best
I mean, but that's AA that your INF didn't have initially. 😜 sometimes 1 shot can make all the difference
You say that, lol but I'm personally expecting supply shortages to be widespread and quickly reached this campaign since there's been so much changed with Supply sources and usage
Fair...
Anything interesting happened in the last 5h? I was at work
😜 if it did, I haven't gotten to it yet (still skimming through the past that I slept through)
Other then BG 3 going head first and that we are nearing the limit of the BG then not really.
true
The vehicles can move themselves
The artillery is mostly towed artillery
And then we’ve got 12 guys on foot
3 IFVs, 1 (maybe 2) Logi trucks, and 3 VTOLs
We’re a tad bit short
We only have 4 artilery guns
There are, of course, the HATs, but still
And based on our rate of advance, a creeping barrage may be best
Bring two up at a time
Speed 1 units should be assisted. One of the Arty is an SPG, so they can keep up with the MBTs at speed 2
Constantly alternate/leapfrog
Can HVTOLs carry infantry?
It may be rough just to deploy initially if we have to use HATs / VTOLs to get vehicles to ground. From my math we have enough to get all infantry to ground but we can only land 13 vehicles at a time
BG 3 is the airborne group, right?
Not these HVTOLs
We’ll just have to dig in and wait then
Ouch, thought so
Ones lugging a bunker
lol, there's a 3fs upgrade for an Infantry Box that allows us to carry 12fs, but neither of us have it
😜 don't hate. My prefab bunker could be useful
Oh I wasn’t
A bunker is useful
Just saying your lugging it lol
If only we could put a bunker on a flatbed like the home guard did
Honestly we could use it to great effect so the infantry can hunker down while we make round trips for the other vehicles
Can it be picked up again?
lol, and truthfully I won't commit to deploying it until we know a bit more. Don't wanna leave y'all hanging just cause I wanted to get more into the structure game.
Can you pick it up after deploying?
Because if you can it goes from useful to extremely useful
I mean...it's technically got the "cargo bed" tag
None of the Heavy Object upgrades mention anything past initial deployment
It acts as a building once deployed so I don’t think you can
Mind's eye, these are all like shipping containers modified to fill different roles...but I don't know
I took that as being his easy connection to the "Infantry gain +1 Armor while inside buildings or woods / forested areas if attacked from the outside of said structure. " bit in the rules
Captain isn't active in chat, but I asked anyway
Added to the Shack Q&A sheet too in case he's still going to be checking that
Don't worry i've got it all under control in my head
We put all the arty and infantry in the HATs/ VTOLs and then everything else stays on the ground for survivability
Yeah, that’s the basic idea
But on the ground, the infantry will need transport
The door kickers need protection before we die immediately
Afternoon all how goes it
Tank line :3
Fighter line
But yes we have VTOLs for a reason
Good news everyone I had a brainwave
As we're not filling all our HATs to capacity because we're hitching the NPCs down most likely, they can fill the rest of their slots with SS
It's something silly like 6 per slot and they have 5 slots
We should be very fine in terms of supply
And the vtols can take 2 supply each also
👍
Breach enemy compounds with MBTs! XD
What size can VTOLs carry?
So, been looking around for fun, this Battlegroup is by definition a Combined Arms Battalion
I might make a orbat of this BG for fun later.
(I know all this has no practical use but I love things useful in RP and lore 😅😅)
It’d be pretty cool
We’re more organized like a tank division than a mechanized one though
We recruiting fighters and logi right?
We have some armor rifles, their attached support, the assorted transport, several sections of tanks, the artillery detachment, and then one full strength Mech Lance and some change
And aye were an armoured fist at the core with a SHBT, that kinda makes it easy to think around as well which is nice
Blitzkrieg
We’ll be relying on the other two BGs to fill in the gaps
Ence why I'm thinking Combined Arms Battalion (Armored) : 2 Armored Company, 1 Mechanized Infantry Company and 1 Support Company
And me!
I can carry an engineer or medic squad
Or a box of small supplies
Its a small world affteeerrrr allll
It would be poetic
i can carry a vehicle or supplies
I’ll ride in an IFV if I can so I can roll up with my buddy
Rule #1 of LVs : you always need one, you just don't know it yet
Congratulations
You are the unit’s recon vehicle
Or you need to carry large supplies
You serve the ARMCO union
The way it's shaping up, there's a good chance I'm gonna be switching roles depending on the situation
Yeah more than likely you’re going to be ferrying stuff and blasting buildings that look funny when the boys enter them
Indeed well all be playing it by ear centered around the armour
At least that's my feelings
we have a SHBT, we gotta use it to our advantage.
Here's to hoping they don't have stage fright at this point lol
nah bro the baneblade knows no fear
"Nope. Once deployed it anchors itself into the ground and becomes a bunker."
nice sorted that one out
So tell me how viable this is.
Tank gets damaged. VTOLs bring 2 inf and 1 engineer to dig in and protect the tank while the engineer repairs
Somewhat
High action requirement from our limited force, puts infantry at higher risk, AND i forgot the main thing
Give me a moment
Idk
🤣
Well dug in inf is pretty un killable
But it's less viable than a HVTOL bringing the tank away from the frontline and a VTOL bringing just engi forward
It takes that turn to get dug in is the issue
Well
Yh ok that'd be easier but where the fun in that
'Tis me!
Fair enough so probably the best bet would be a repair hub defended by inf with the arty and engineer in it, 1-2 hammers consisting purely of armor, 1 scouting segment with LV and Mechs and the vtols, hats logi as the supply lifeblood. Oh and air superiority for our hats
Damn, SHBT and Blitzkrieg in the same sentence is a bold proposition and I'm all for it xD
Considering our low mobility, establishing an HQ in the city would be my call too
GENTLMEN
I MUST DERAIL THE BG FOR THIS
URGENT ANOUNCEMENT
"The Schwartz Awakens in 2027." Check out the Spaceballs 2 announcement teaser for this upcoming sequel to the iconic sci-fi comedy adventure film.
Real
REAL
So… when are we deploying?
How are we looking for transports to get to the battle?
depends if Storm wants to play TAXI for others or we secure a forward base quickly
Personally I’d love a better map before we figure out transports
Just so we know what the LZ might look like
True
true
We all pile into HATs just to find out that there isn't any AFs
Well piling into the hat is no problem we can para drop
Getting the hats to be usefull afterwards without an airfield is more problematic
Lads
The overall plan currently is to wait for atlas to form up
Then we high tail it with them
Or we wait for a NPC ship
Tis faer
But if you wish to leeroy Jenkins, your call
but you will probably die before you hit dirt
Oh we actually secured space in atlas?
true
last I heard of Simm they didnt have enough capacity to carry us
I’m just the mad idea man
If that’s the case we’re going via NPC freighter then
still in favour of stealing the bot factories instead of destroying them 💪
That’s my idea!
There won’t be much to loot if all goes to plan
Sgt. Stickyfingers and his cadre of E-4s demand tribute
I was supporting it!
OH… OK
Yes
Nay
We land at a spaceport
That is the only possible way
Via pc or npc doesn't matter
Not to shit the bed but you can't leeroy jenkins it
You can't split the BG in 2
And we don;t have enough capacity to carry everyone at once so nuh
See above
HAT's aren't really gonna be used for moving stuff outside of planetside travel because WE AREN'T FLYING TO THE PLANET OURSELVES
RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sorry I just feel like a broken record atp 😓
But HAT's main focus imo should be portable supply bases
I know it’s booring but it’s needed
Because they aren't gonna be carrying much, so they can take mostly SS
dude at uni I had the same thing 20 dudes and you need to tell everyone 3 times the info and they still ignore it (well at least untill I stopped they missed 2 exams, then the problem dissapeared... like magic)
That happens a lot
well going to sleep g'night 🛌
Night!
good sleep soldier
Welcome to meta lol
i've been here nearly as long as you Butter 🙄
Point taken tho haha
Eh, I was taking it more as a "it's definitely campain time" type statement. lol, but that could just be my filter
works either way 🤣
Some buddies have been joking that we could do a bingo board of certain topics and sayings that always happen when campaigns are spinning up
Ah nothing like a bingo board in a discord server
It would be funny tbh
I'll contribute 1: 50% of a BG gets wiped within the first 2 rounds.
Naw, we wouldn't put downers like that on the board. No one likes seeing people get whipped...especially early
It'd be the things that get repeated alot and a lot of the stuff that was answered by the "Check the pins" reaction last campaign. lol
I definitely don't want to be wishing ill on people or playing with someone else's fortune or lack there of.
Pirate does something stupid that somehow works - my entry for this lol
I'll go with "Intel was wrong!" Always is a sure bet for a bingo board
Help me out, HVTOL has both section and squadron?
Idd Stick the Bulldozers with the engineers as a support unit
That’s where I’m going to be
I’m going to be on the second line as a reserve and engineering MBT to aid The engineers
Howdy gang, Redwall Engi checking in. Do you guys have a rough idea of your plans?
Oups my bad
From what I gathered its waiting for more maps before anything is hammered out
Redwall is roughly looking at following behind Venator and Spearhead to secure the area behind you guys. Largely as a fallback position.
We can try and go to crossroads and skip elim
Since maybe after elim falls the bots might retreat through crossroads so we can pincer them in
Idk it's just a theory
Like that?
Depending in maps and how bad the situation if the locals are holding ground we will land as far forward as safe and secure the Zcity if it's overrun and we need to cut a way through we will be landing at the other city or crossroads and driving in killing anything in our path
Guys ppl from storm blessed do not want us to truck
I’m anticipating we’ll land when the automated freighters start landing and then start pushing toward the goal of Ziyal City. Crossroads may be getting an airfield, so we may have one that needs securing but is also close to the front as we push.
To what
We need more truck
I'm pretty sure we will be dropping at Elim, I don't think the taskforces have the capacity to drop us onto the planet.
We have 14 MBTs, with 3 Dozer MBTs going to the Engineer Platoon. We should have the AAA MBT and 2 MBT in a separate section.
Then we have 8 MBTs left to split into 2 Platoons of 4, which can be broken down into 2 sections of 2 each.
That's what I'd like but I doubt that will happen.
Then we have 2 MBT platoons forward (front left and front right), the SHBT in the back. The AAA MBT mixed platoon in between them all so that the platoon is in the middle of a triangle.
Or we get 3 MBT Platoons of 3 MBTs, the AAA and 1 MBT stay with the SHBT?
Morning
Also seems like VTOLs will be able to carry two infantry worth of units.
I'm only seeing 6FS for regular VTOLs.
Is your info from Meta-comm chatter?
RAH
No I mean did you check out mid round events?
It seems shack might change it
Wait nvm I re-read it and it just cramps In more vtols
Into orbitals
"I love playing engineer!"
"But you're an MBT?"
Lowers dozer blade
"Did I stutter?"
Giving mechs fists also make them engineers
Fist mechs havo two personalitys
Throw them hands
Let's play Minecraft
Is that a image of Ziyal?
I think both
Elim city lad
Ah alright, gonna bring it over to my BattleGroup
Both on the strategic map has different looks
Yeah I just saw lol
Hey marl
Put this on the flag
Divisio armaturae caeli
Holy ziyal crusade map
Better this one marl
Expeditio nullum exspectat
Basically says "the crusade waits for none
Imagine the size of them acetylenes!
I wanna get a fist on my mech, but i needa upgrade my mech and actually get weapons first
Alright sure, I will get on that when i have time
Ok no worries
Counter motto proposal (as much as I like the one hobo suggested): Saepe Libentereque. Meaning "Often and with pleasure" (as in, "How often are we willing to engage")
Mmmm nice one
Or the good, old "Pugnaciter!", which more or less translates directly into "Pugnaciously!" / "Litigiously!"
Here the ziyal mao
*map
And crossroads map
We should target that big thing in the moddle
Middle
Probably a plant or something
Poo... I can't put the BG icon in my profile without Nitro
Are we allowed to land on it t1?
😦
I know, truly dreadful
Good question
I even had it customised to my unit, like NSFW did
When the bots roll up on us at Crossroads.
https://youtu.be/sti7ClkVDJ4?si=Sa_MkG6CCyfQco_M
1864 series
Second Schleswig War
Battle of Dybbøl
7 April – 18 April 1864
Dybbøl, Denmark
Prussian Victory
Prussia Vs Denmark
Prussia: 11,000 and 26,000 in reserve,
126 guns
Denmark:5,000 at the defences, 6,000 in reserve,
66 guns, 11 mortars,
1 Ironclad Warship
Prussian losses:1,201 dead, wounded, or captured
Danish losses: 4,834 (7...
That is a possibility, if we can't make ziyal by orbital
Okay 👍
The problem is getting everyone down
Either we land somewhere and make a airfield or take a Starport right
Yeah also good news on the HAT front I think we will have some spare room for small supplies
Really? Well that makes it easier for the airfield option or defensive options
Wydm nsfw
caster pauls unit name.
There's someone in here who has the Venator logo with NSFW written on it as their profile picture ^^
It’s funny
Curious question what are the dotted lines on the map mean between Elim city and Nerys village
Iirc only air units can go through the dotted lines
XD
Lol
Lmao
So just a reminder we’re totally planning on landing at Elim city
Yep
I'm not seeing anything that looks like a runaway. Plenty of long roads though
Then proceed to Ziyal city
Elim, then cross roads then ziyal in a planetary blitzkrieg.
Anything is a runway of your brave enough
We have to go through L-H first then crossroads
Yeah prolly take 1 day to get there
Unless we have plenty more transportation
Wich infact we do
Another happy landing
6 hats
But few units that can be deployed via Paradrop
Yep that'd the issue
Im sorry but i had to
You know, I kinda like the green.
This is unironically great XD
Marl personal flagship
Master yoda, where did all the Jedi funds go?
Maybe I should invest into an orbital!
It’s your call
Heh well let see if I live during this campaign I will have about 6 rec.
Anyway so if we go to the crossroads with our air units should we try to deploy a airfield as fast as possible to get everything down
And then wait for the other battle groups to join us
Or we can ask some HVTOL guys form a other BG to transport our tonks
Yeah I have enough to get a Battleship.
If I live
Lol, I live through two campaign's am not going to die on the third!
You jinx yourself 🫡
Ha not like that stop me XD
Il probably get one AA missile as an upgrade later
I’m going to buy a heavy mech and orbital crew after this if I live
Wait a minute
What?
Hm?
Who?
How?
And why?
When?
Where?
Wait a minute
Yes?
Yes
Yes??
Maybe?
What are you looking at
Does anyone else realize it’s been over a minute
Sorry my internet bugged out
Is SIERRA company basically Lockheed Martin but Armco verse
They sell weapons both to us and our enemies
Or are they a CIA backed weapon's manufacturer
Wait when did they sell to enemies
A medium mech different vehicles and a infantry team with a HMG
We don’t know that
Only credits
But those don’t leave a mark on space
Shed
I could see that
Well they had labs and a black site with a bug on it
Yeah but a different type to poor madman
Indeed
They were taken from us too soon
I miss the bugs (I don't want to fight them they are terrifying)
But fren shaped bug is fren
It’s they are not here
Don't pet the wildlife
If not fren why fren shape?
Just reposting J Jordans patch they made in here as well
Stuff didn't work out with Rabbit, so Fighter Callsign: Frebird transferred here.
Welcome
Welcome to crazy population 4 fighters now
Were almost fully filled our roster
We need one more fighter and Logi
Sorry to hear that mate but welcome glad to have you
If we can't get a logi, maybe we should go for a VTOL or something?
Welcome
XD
Good one
Me for another hour or so

Ye
Perfect map reading buddies
So trench pointed something out remember the briefing explaining that the bots will continue fielding their numbers
And those numbers can be replenished over time
Yes
So target resource stockpiles & production installations & evac civilians
to reduce that replenishment
Yes and Haydar village is dangerously close to Ziyal city
Pretty sure the mine is covered
Or at least one of them is
I think we can all generally agree that if Ziyal hasn’t completely fallen yet, is in the process of being invaded
when we actually get there
indeed, factory's are a priority target for sure as well
That be a good guess
morning all
Morning
I believe we do have some recon elements planned with pathfinders and some spec ops lads
so when we actually get in there it should develop pretty quickly
I hope not
want a slow roll?
Better to take our own time and save as many people as we can slowly
well yeah, for recon though we should know more when we get in system, the planned recon units and pathfinder BG if it happens will let us know more