Task Force 2 - Atlas: Comms

[opaque pagoda]

But I’ll bring folks to the surface if you’d rather

[plain dew]

Can HATs paradrop from high orbit? No right?

must be drop pods from high orbit?

[shadow sigil]

No, and No

[sage perch]

new plan that actually puts me in range

[sand jewel]

Mind if I add the Warwolf to one of the HAT's going to the starport?

[turbid kernel]

If there's room I don't see why not

[shadow sigil]

How are you going to get out?

[sand jewel]

Is the plan to air-drop then?

[shadow sigil]

Yes

[jolly verge]

the plan is (correct me if im wrong) to airdrop out of the HAT

[shadow sigil]

There's not airfield to land at

[sturdy dew]

the starport can't take HAT's? 🤔

[shadow sigil]

There's no airfield there

So no

[twin widget]

We can't this round, we don't have sufficient AA cover to do so without high risk.

Correct.

[plain dew]

fluffle & atlas fighters are going to engage enemy fighters, yhou should be clear.

[topaz rivet]

Not unless we can be sure our fighters will arrive first

[twin widget]

This, implied to be ICBMs.

... damn, that's probably going to be STORM's problem as well, everyone's going to be pinned down at the starport-

This. We're better off doing piecemeal repairs down here to keep our CAS up, for now.

If we have SKC, yes.

Evac Intentions for STORM:

INF: none. They can't get out of range fast enough, they will stand and fight to the last man. Medics will be running in to keep whoever they can alive, but expect heavy losses.
VTOLs: damaged VTOLs are hopping up to the landing pads in order to get repairs.

Flight and Positioning... standby.

Crew can ignore fires to defend at the cost of a hit next round.

[jolly verge]

tell us when they reach us and well make sure to keep the VTOL Bays Crewed to Repair and Rearm you as soon as possible

[twin widget]

Yes, but Medics and INF are more desperately needed right now.

(If you're bringing PAI, bring an ENGI with them).

Both PAI?

Don't die, you'll probably be one of our best assets on the ground.

Green: high ground
Blue: structure
Black: blocks LOS and movement (ground).

[twin widget]

As far as we can tell, no.

[twin widget]

(Also, CAS, and see the later message about not being able to outrun the bots. INF will stand their ground and fight).

[twin widget]

Won't be needing that for this turn. We'll reevaluate next turn.

[rapid sail]

so long as we're in range of the bot so i can start putting rounds into em

[plain dew]

How does VTOL/HAT launching from a BG thru our flight decks work? Thats all good right? They just *declare they are launching and w.e else is on board?

If so by my count we have open for use by IH:

4 VTOL bay slots
3 Flight bay slots (assuming HADES is still MIA and does not use the 2nd launch on pioneer).

[frigid tartan]

IH is debating because we need to know what assets are available to help land tanks and we are looking for rulings on Parachuting in.

Getting HVTOLs to help land tanks and knowing if we can drop up and down one of these roads safely drastically improves our drops.

[topaz rivet]

We have no HVTOLs unfortunately

[plain dew]

we dont but IH does

thats why it matters if they can launch from our flight deck

[novel oak]

we could try and convince storm blessed to come back up for deployment

[twin widget]

Again, if we have air cover, yes, you will have HVTOL support.

[plain dew]

Also by my math, assuming we dont drop ODT and wait till next turn, we have 2 unused HAT that can drop infantry units for IH.

[novel oak]

seeing as their fighters are moving to atmo prob not for a bit

[topaz rivet]

I believe the plan is for our fighters to engage theirs

[plain dew]

yup.... so is fluffles...

it will be 8 on 4, in our favor.

[frigid tartan]

Fluffer is hitting the aircraft on their way in and is putting a ship in low orbit.

[plain dew]

if IH can launch from our bays, we could have 14 more units + the VTOLs ground side this turn. + fluffles ship landing, which has 2 light mechs and vehicles.

[topaz rivet]

We have two unused VTOL bays

[plain dew]

yup, and 1.5 unused flight bays

[novel oak]

assuming we land

still up for debate

[plain dew]

regardless, we could put 14 boots on the ground. Thats got a good chance at saving the injured units in storm while they regroup.

[topaz rivet]

Especially if we can put a tank in a convenient place

[jolly verge]

this is the plan, we reserved 2 HATs for IH dropping in

but i have to go to bed now, so see you tomorrow <3

[vivid crater]

Is there not a chance of the fighters hitting Vulture in the rear?

[twin widget]

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[plain dew]

We could... Theres 8 active fighters total between us and fluffle. IMO, one of us has to engage the enemy fighters, so they are locked into air combat with us and cant go after anyone else (or down to the planet).

This frees up VTOLs/ HVTOLs/HAT to go between the orbits. without getting shot at.

My original plan was both fighter groups don't use evasion to dogfight, with the intent to neutralize all enemy fighters (especially since ours have to spend a turn reloading, while bot fighters dont). If all 8 of us are together, the frigate & fighters shouldnt be able to take anyone down.

The issue with splitting fire is we 100% wont be able to take down teh fighters, which means we wont have control of the air space, and there isnt a guarentee we can take out the frigate with the auto cannons/bombers/4 fighters.

[topaz rivet]

Atlas is going to board the Vulture

So trying to hit it harder isn’t what we want to do

[vivid crater]

The flip side, is if I haven't misunderstood, they do go down to the planet and if Vulture can be destroyed then Redwall can deploy, which would put two quad AA MBT on the ground

[plain dew]

oh yea i forgot that, we are punching a hole in its side

[plain dew]

oh... does it work that way?

[vivid crater]

As soon as there are no enemy contacts, the tactical map goes away, and the strategic layer is all that matters is how I've been reading it

[topaz rivet]

Same

[plain dew]

if this frigate has the same number of hits as the other, thats 7, and 8 total hits on the fighters for 15.

[topaz rivet]

We need the HATs to decide where to drop. IH is going for the SW quadrant, which seems to imply we should hit the NW

[plain dew]

8 fighters, 2 bomers, 3 auto cannons, 5 HMG

if everything hits, we could generate 18 hits

[plain dew]

Do you know how your deployment would work? I assume its 2 cost to go to Nav 1, Elim high atmo, and then 1 to land at the space port? But how much can you deploy at that point? Everything?

[vivid crater]

I'm crew on Pioneer, but if they're speed 3, that maths out to me

[topaz rivet]

Once you land at the star port, everything comes out. Not sure what happens if only one ship makes the trip

[plain dew]

that would mean shovels with their 2 round airfield could also deploy

would also mean our PAI could drop NW with their VTOL and try and secure that flank

it is so risky tho

[topaz rivet]

Our PAI is gonna visit the vulture

[plain dew]

I know they are excited to breach... but I dont think they can.

If we dump everything between fluffle & TF2 into killing the air assets, we barely do it.

They can still use their VTOL to go do stuff

but if we kill enemy air, we unlock 2 full BG of reinforcements in additon to IH drops.

Of which those reinforcements are engineers who can setup defenses and limit casualties (Plus a medical corps to heal back any infantry who manage to live)

IF - thas how deployment works

big if

[twin widget]

ATLAS CREW,

For the round after this one (so, Round 6), please have at least 1 VTOL bay manned and ready to load 2 MBTs. A second VTOL bay for INF would be appreciated if possible.

[topaz rivet]

Or if we miss four shots

[plain dew]

we have the speed to hit it in the ass. the frigate should go down easy. The HMG & autocannons would need to go into the fighters. Altho checking the map now.... they might be out of range

we would be exactly 15/15 😂

[topaz rivet]

I think Pearl couldn’t get an angle to flank it

[plain dew]

pearl wouldn tshoot it, they would shoot the fighters

[topaz rivet]

The fighters are dropping into the atmosphere, I don’t think Pearl has a shot on them

[plain dew]

even better then

thats 8 hits we dont have to worry about anymore

[topaz rivet]

Except we need to intercept them

[plain dew]

thats fine, we have 3 spare fighters

[topaz rivet]

Or we can’t land at all this turn

[plain dew]

Got it

Silvers has a AA missile

its the opposite of what i originally thought, Atlas fighters with using the aa missile, thats 5 hits from our 4 fighters & the 2 bombers. Pearl shot is for insurance.

then fluffle fighters can chase 1 for 1 the enemy fighters planet side

That satisfies everything right? 8 hits on frigate, 4 for 4 on the fighters.

[topaz rivet]

It feels like it should work

I have no idea how to start a poll

Wait, I see it

[frigid tartan]

Is any of Atlas coming to the surface?

[topaz rivet]

We should be sending HATs, at least to paradrop. But none of our ships can get to atmo this turn

[frigid tartan]

So no infantry coming down to secure the spaceport?

IH only has 5 infantry and 5 support inf. We could also have an MBT come down

[twin widget]

I'll just weigh in quickly - if you kill it, no High Orbit TACMAP, friendly orbital transports can move in just 1 movement there.

[gentle jay]

Wouldn't the same be the case if they boarded it and took it over?

[topaz rivet]

None have signed up yet but I don’t know who’s checked in today

Odds of us capturing in one are lower than us blowing it in one. Unless Shack’s been screwing with us again

[plain dew]

light mechs can ride the HATs too

[topaz rivet]

I don’t think they can paradrop though

[twin widget]

Not until boarding is successful in taking over the ship.

1 round of combat minimum after landing the units there.

If you think you can clear it as fast as you could down it? Sure!
But if they have any defenders... yeah, it might be longer.

[twin widget]

Can't paradrop, unless they have jump jets.

LVs can paradrop.

[plain dew]

oh, i didnt see that, i thought both of them could

[pliant fjord]

Ok, still catching up here, correct me if I'm wrong:

There's an option to use our combined air power to attempt to destroy the frigate. The benefit would be that the fast (speed 3) transport fleets would arrive sooner rather than later, because they wouldn't have to move across the tactical map.

The downside is that, if we don't kill it in one turn, the fast transports would have to take... 1 extra turn to get to the spaceport?

Picket Line will be landing on the spaceport T5 unless something weird happens.

Our fighters are needed to shield the HATs (who have 1 hit) from the opFor FTRs

So if we divert everything at the Frigate, that means no paradrops, no VTOLs, and no reinforcements for Storm

[plain dew]

Yes except we can 100% kill it.

[plain dew]

Fluffle will intercept enemy fighters, so we dont need to shield the HATs

they have 4, enemy fighters have 4

[pliant fjord]

can you link the math again?

[plain dew]

the other frigate we scanned has 7 hits. Our 4 fighters + 1 aa misisle from silvers + 2 bombers from fluffle is 7 hits.

2 auto cannons (1 from pearl, 1 from lonely) and potentially 1 HMG will also go into the frigate to make sure its dead dead.

[shadow sigil]

Orbital HMGs can't target orbitals

[plain dew]

Fighters can flank now, so if we dont evasion, will damage as long as we get behind.

[plain dew]

Fluffle fighters are going to wait for enemy fighters to drop into lower orbit, then engage them 4 on 4, which locks the enemy fighters into intercept.

[pliant fjord]

Do we know for sure that the fighters are descending?

[plain dew]

Its not confirmed... but it was implied they were heading to the surface.

[topaz rivet]

There was also the AA tank event

[pliant fjord]

gotcha

[shadow sigil]

Shack has hinted they're dropping.

I'd assume they are

[pliant fjord]

yea, that's pretty definitive

[shadow sigil]

Not sure how you're going to wait for them to drop?

[pliant fjord]

movement is all simultaneous

[shadow sigil]

You can't make an If statment

[pliant fjord]

Yea, "follow this enemy unit" is also typically ignored, you still have to have a path laid out

we're not sure which direction the fighters are going when they descend

or where they're dropping in

[plain dew]

Its a risk

[pliant fjord]

that's true, both plans are pretty risky

[plain dew]

but its a risk that lets us drop redwall, shovels, IH, and us.

[pliant fjord]

I'd have to check, but even if we do kill the frigate in one turn,
they don't get to ignore the tactical speed in the same turn

like, they'd appear at the transit point at the same time the frigate dies

and end their turn in Elim Orbit still

[shadow sigil]

Shack might allow it.
I'd make it clear that it's your intent

[pliant fjord]

sure, NOW the map is a strategic map, but they'd still have to deploy next turn

[ember python]

i do not think the auto-frieghters can land this round no matter what- because they will be moving simultaneous to when the damage is being done.

[plain dew]

Yea, someoen else mentioned how movement planet side works too

if orbitals also have to take half movement, would that be half rounding up or down on a 3 move unit.

[pliant fjord]

that's what I'd assume, but I've been wrong many times so far

It's worth asking

[ember python]

never hurts to ask. if we are wrong, we can be learn how it works to apply better strats next time

[pliant fjord]

personally, I'm still in favor of boarding and very carefully making sure the enemy doesn't get a sextuple kill by sniping a HAT while it's unguarded

we're trusting that Fluffle is successful in their intercept, which isn't guaranteed at all

[ember python]

our air wing could fly in a formation to cover the HATs & VTOLs though, yeah?

[pliant fjord]

not if they're hitting the frigate

[plain dew]

Yes, but we are the only airwing that can guarantee kill the frigate, because of silvers AA missile

[ember python]

yeah, of course

[plain dew]

(also need to get permisison from them to use it)

[pliant fjord]

I think they can use the AA missile from the formation

they won't be able to fire their main gun at a different target, but it has 3 range

[plain dew]

yea, but its more does the player want to use their itme now thing

they would want to shoot when we are flanking the back, so no armor for the frigate

[pliant fjord]

A valid question, and one we likely won't get an answer to until a couple hours before orders are due,

[plain dew]

its only 1 or 2 armor, but still...

[pliant fjord]

anyone tagged them?

[plain dew]

negative

[pliant fjord]

also worth asking

[ember python]

so basically:

• IF wiping VULTURE allows the 3 speed auto-transport BGs to land now (which I don't think they can, but we're gonna find out), then we put our all into killing it fast on the gamble that doing so would have a huge upside.
• IF not, we board, and the air wing can escort HATs and VTOLs

[pliant fjord]

2nd plan is safer now, but we risk losing more Storm troops in the long run

Picket Line can dock with the starport T5 anyway right?

[merry summit]

U think the act of boarding may stop them from outputting troops to just keep ‘em on as defenders?

[ember python]

IF that is the case and we can land the auto-transport BGs, I think we should consider carrying Iron Hammers else where.

discussing it w/ them, of course

[plain dew]

ima be honest

if you guys look at the ground map, it is not good.

[merry summit]

If this is the case I really don’t think that’s a great idea with the amount of troops it can churn out

[plain dew]

NW ans SW are overrun, SE and NE has multiple contacts arriving in 1-2 tunrs.

NW storm are probably dead, even with VTOL intervension of our PAI/ IH MBT

we could paradrop in SW with IH, and they could get up some defenses quick, but its between a large enemy force, and a big pile of unknowns.

[ember python]

the situation on the ground is such that delivering troops to ground would be the best thing to do. I personally can't get there, since I'm tied to the drop pods. If getting troops to ground is the top priority the best way to do that is to paradrop a ton of units which requires a fighter escort to do so safely

[merry summit]

Could drop pod intervention work?

[plain dew]

too far, even if we burn a LS

[merry summit]

Mm unfortunate

[plain dew]

Our best bet is getting the entire redwall BG on the ground

[ember python]

the drop pods have terrible range. the only advantage to drop pods is that they bypass AA, which, the opfor does not have here in Elim.

[ember python]

I don't think that is mechanically possible this turn. if i'm wrong about that, 100% i agree w/ you. throwing everything at VULTURE and bringing it down is what we ought to do

[topaz rivet]

Could fluffle’s bombers make a difference in the NW?

[pliant fjord]

question's been asked

lets continue prepping both plans

Bombers vs Infantry sounds like a good plan

[plain dew]

yea... if deployment of redwall is not possible, then realistically, we need to give NW.

The forces there are too deadly

[ember python]

paradrop a bunch of our ground assets and IH that wants down fast?

[pliant fjord]

Apiary's probably gonna hit them really hard with the 2 missiles

[plain dew]

I would vote that our 8 fighters shoot to kill enemy fighters if redwall cant deploy, lets at least get that annoyance out of the way. HATS adn VTOLs can fly with us (and be covered from vulture) until then.

[pliant fjord]

so a bombing run might save the corner

[twin widget]

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[plain dew]

how does that work? isnt the bomber just 1 hit? or does it do 1d6 FS?

[pliant fjord]

depends on if the bots are actually PAI, or just armored infantry

[plain dew]

stormed mentioned they are tough, they did less damage than expected, especially out of the VTOL

[pliant fjord]

have a numbers guy count out how many attacks and how many dead bots

that might clear it up

if dead bots > # of attacks, they can take more than 1 hit per attack

if dead bots < # of attacks, we still don't know, because of possible '1's ignored by armor

[topaz rivet]

I think we’ve seen 4FS bots wiped out by one or two attacks

[twin widget]

Sorry to whoever I accidentally stepped on in the doc-

[ember python]

we know they have armor, and don't take cover. its similar to PA, but, we shouldn't assume they are exactly the same

[plain dew]

@untold tusk one of the plans would require you using your once per campaign AA missile to take down the frigate. If we choose to move forward with that plan, are you okay using it? The frigate needs 7 hits, and your missile would be the 7th hit.

[ember python]

This campaign has really sold me on the desirability of a Leopard Class dropship: Its not quite exactly like a btech Leopard, but it gets the idea across. Something like:
Destroyer

• Mech Bay/Vehicle Bay
• Mech Bay/Vehicle Bay
• Landing Gear
• Open CS for whatever mission requires; scanner, cargo bay, flight decks, HMG/AC, whatever

[topaz rivet]

I sleep. So I’m boosting the poll: #1382037040438181950 message

[turbid kernel]

Sorry everyone, just got back from a session zero. It seems we're deciding to either blow up the frigate using all our air power or board and use our air power to go to escort/fighters and possibly bomb the enemy near the Starport?

[plain dew]

Fluffle can help *Intercept enemy air for our HAT/VTOL

but yes

[ember python]

session zeros are a wonderful thing. but, yeah, essentially the discussion is to either 1- focus fire VULTURE to clear the air space, which can allow for strategic movement speed through Elim High Orbit OR 2- paradrop as much support as we can carry and drop it to support STORM directly.
there are nuances i've skipped over, but those are the essential bullet points

[pliant fjord]

Paradrop option would be done in both, but would be at greater risk

in the second

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the HVTOLs from storm would be deploying from us the same turn Picket Line would be docking at Spaceport

So it would be better for them to take cover instead of risking an ascent

[ember python]

Stupid question... can the PL dock? it has no atmo-fuel? i think we learned earlier that as long as its not floating it doesn't use atmo-fuel so that would work, was that confirmed?

to clarify- as long as the orbital descends and docks all in one turn, no atmo-fuel is needed

[pliant fjord]

Docking at Spaceport does NOT use or require atmo-fuel

(assuming it's not floating for any duration, yea)

[ember python]

cool, just wanted to make sure that was 100% confirmed. it would suck if we made the plan to dock only to discover, that, no, we can't do that.

[pliant fjord]

well, we can't dock if the enemy controls the port

which is why paradrop/VTOL is so critical

[turbid kernel]

I think so too. They better to leave as much units not in dire need of Evac as possible. What's the chances of actually killing the frigate in the next 2 turns? I saw some math earlier but how many misses can we afford from the bombers?

[pliant fjord]

If we actually throw everything at it, it's basically a guaranteed kill

the downside is that our HATs could be more easily picked off, which could lose us up to 18 players at once

so... yea I'm wrestling hard with this one

[ember python]

shit, i keep getting sucked into the discussion and forgetting to cook

[pliant fjord]

I'm also pretty sure that killing the Frigate this turn won't allow the fast BGs to dock in the same turn

so we'd be taking on a lot of risk for a dead orbital, but not much other benefit

unless I'm wrong

[turbid kernel]

I'm feeling the same. I worry they'll enter low orbit but not have enough to actually dock

[ember python]

Plan A allows for a fully safe paradrop, since the fighters can escort. and we can deliver a pretty substantial number of units by paradrop. its not as sexy as stack wiping Vulture, but its the better bet.

of course if killing VULTURE just lets every speed 3 BG teleport to the starport, then... yeah, thats such a huge upside it definitely tilts the tactical arithmetic.

[pliant fjord]

I'm going to prepare Plan A now. If we get a favorable ruling about the deployment shenanigans, we'll reconsider. For now, I'm in favor of 1 VTOL board, and protection paradrop

[ember python]

but, yeah, we're just going to keep having to say that exact thing until the rules are clarified.

[pliant fjord]

If I need to stay up late to prep Plan B, I'll do that too.

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, I'm feeling more secure with A until we get final say. Sentinel has Atmo fuel by default. Should they descend as well to make Medivac easier?

[pliant fjord]

The drop spot WILL NOT damage you.

[gentle jay]

Sorry to jump in but did we get that confirmed? Last I checked it was still up in the air

[pliant fjord]

Landing on a hill with no buildings on it will not damage you.

I think the coordinate was 3218 (which has enemies on it, but no buildings)

[gentle jay]

Yeah that was the one I was thinking would be best

Great to hear it’s viable

[pliant fjord]

I'm remembering that dropping onto enemies also damages you, but I might be remembering an old edition, could someone look that up in the rule book?

[gentle jay]

It only says forests and urban areas

Nothing about on top of enemies

[pliant fjord]

thank you

[ember python]

i would love to crush a bot w/ the heavy drop pod, but i don't think thats in the rules, unfortunately.

[gentle jay]

Wait but the HAT rules are a little more amorphous

[pliant fjord]

Intel:
Storm agrees the Bots are Infantry with Armor, and NOT PAI with max 1 hit per damaging attack.

[plain dew]

4/8 fighters could ground assist then with the 2 bombers. That would certainly soften up our potential paradrop target at 3218 or the NE 3415 or start working on the NW 3216.

[pliant fjord]

@merry summit What's the minimum fighter escort that would make you comfortable?

Yea, lets hit the ground as hard as possible, and send a small boarding party to deal with the Frigate

[plain dew]

oh @pliant fjord just to 100% confirm, IH VTOL and HVTOL can launch from our bays right?

[pliant fjord]

100% confirmed

[plain dew]

if they all are riding with us, then we should have plenty of bodies to cover the HATs, even without the fighters

[pliant fjord]

Shack focus fired a VTOL, I'm not sure there's such a thing as "plenty of bodies" :/

[plain dew]

he cant with fighters on them

[pliant fjord]

that's why we need fighters, not VTOLs

[plain dew]

if fluffle intercepts they cant do that, they have to fight 1 on 1

er... 4v4

[twin widget]

Reminder that those fighters shot at us and probably need to reload?

[plain dew]

But if we dont need to wait for the bot fighters to drop to lower atmosphere, they can engage them right away, which frees up the vtol/HAT group

[plain dew]

Bot fighters have shot w/o reloading im pretty sure

they got fancy red lazer weapons

[twin widget]

Wait, fuck, they're pursuing us. Can't rely on that.

[plain dew]

If we vote to kill Frigate Vulture, this is the flight route i propose. It will angle us to get vision of Vultures tail at least once.

If we vote to escort, will just have to go right into the jaws of the beast. Right now, i think no evaison on both movements. (assuming fluffle picks up the fighters)

[pliant fjord]

Hold. Shack is answering the question

[plain dew]

freezes

[pliant fjord]

Confirmed. If the Frigate dies this turn AND one or more orbitals have the speed to move to this strategic location and spend half their movement to descend, they can attempt to dock same turn

[plain dew]

we are so back

[pliant fjord]

Meaning Redwall can't (2/3 speed to reach Elim)

But WE CAN

[plain dew]

we need an operation name

[pliant fjord]

Picket line will remain at the transfer point, stuck in a time loop I guess, until the frigate is dead, then it can dock and deliver all of Iron Hammer THIS TURN

so I'm all ears, do WHATEVER YOU NEED TO kill that frigate, boarding plan is off

-# dasfier is gonna be so mad

[plain dew]

bro i know xD

we sitll have the big issue of the enemy fighters

But if we kiss vulture in the ass, its dead

[pliant fjord]

the good news is, we don't need paratroopers

they're not gonna get to attack this turn, but they'll all be on the ground

made that ages ago

[plain dew]

it might make sense then to drop some of them so some of them get to fight

[pliant fjord]

yea, would be beneficial

[plain dew]

Shovel can make it planet side too right?

[pliant fjord]

I don't know, they're headed to crossroads I thought

There are too many BGs for me to update

UPDATE

Rules Query from Shack has been answered, if the Frigate is dead, the map becomes a strategic one. Any Orbitals with speed remaining after the Frigate is dead will be capable of moving/landing/whatever.

Long story short, ALL OF IRON HAMMER, AND ALL OF ATLAS will be planetside this turn if we can kill that frigate

So lets kill us a Frigate

[plain dew]

if there is this much resistence in elim, they will die going to cross roads IMO

[ember python]

https://tenor.com/view/2kkenny-hell-pod-hellpod-bulletpod-bullet-pod-gif-7994365283629435336

[pliant fjord]

1. We can Orbital Drop
2. The Hats can wait in formation for the dead Frigate, then drop with 3.5 speed remaining instead of 0.
3. Same for VTOLs
4. We still need a solid FTR plan and coordination from Fluffle to make sure it's dead

I need someone to ambassador to Fluffle (I need to make this map to explain the shenanagin before I forget how it works)

And reaper, if you could PM me the attack pattern from earlier, that'd be amazing

[plain dew]

i been talking to fluffle about air already

[pliant fjord]

bless

[turbid kernel]

What should I tell storm?

[pliant fjord]

Iron Hammer and Storm have been notified

Just need more specifics from Fluffle

[plain dew]

do we dare remind shack of the fighters in upper atmospher?

🤣

it would be great if fluffle could engage them there, and everyone else can still zoom zoom planet side

[ember python]

How about... OPERATION MASTERKEY
because if we nail this we can help Storm hold the line, which opens the way for all the rest

[pliant fjord]

Operation Riverrun or Operation Dam It are my suggestions

[tardy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-question-innuendo-inappropriate-uh-phrasing-gif-12184026326224661001

[pliant fjord]

Would "Ram our State-of-the-art ARMCO arsenal up its ass" be better?

[plain dew]

You guys are lucky i didnt say lick

[ember python]

I didn't realize ATLAS was going to be this horny. I will be submitting an official complaint w/ ARMCO HR. /jkjk

[opaque pagoda]

Shit if we’re going all in then every VTOL job is a dangerous one

Which is the most dangerous? I want that one

[pliant fjord]

100% delivering a medic to an almost dead infantry

[opaque pagoda]

Fantastic. Let’s save as many as we can.

[plain dew]

It will depend how ballsy our PAI want to be. With our PAI on ground attack them and IH VTOL could try and rebuke the NW and get that under control, while the paratroopers focus SW. our SE should be good enough to hold 1 more round. NE is probably a coin flip.

Or we give up the NW, and let BG landing this turn deal with it, and 100% secure NE/SW/SE

[twin widget]

For complaints about Pathfinders being Anthros, dial key 14. For complaints about ARMCO being horny, dial key 102.

[pliant fjord]

I think you know how ballsy our PAI will be

[plain dew]

NW it is

[turbid kernel]

Your passenger

The LZ

[plain dew]

yup excatly

xD

[opaque pagoda]

Hell yeah.

https://tenor.com/view/danger-zone-gif-6160128

[plain dew]

dont leave out all those ? makers either, thats fun for at least 2-3 more rounds

[pliant fjord]

Oh. We should get our scanners on those. They can ignore the Frigate lol

[turbid kernel]

Reminds me need to update the scan list

[opaque pagoda]

Passenger or target for medics

[plain dew]

You are probably droping PAI, and then picking up any survivors to help get them to a safe spot would be my guess.

[pliant fjord]

Na we can Orbital Drop

[plain dew]

omg i forgot

we have our orbitals too

[pliant fjord]

I'm gonna ping the ODTs/Mechs! too

[twin widget]

Drop some LMs on them, please. That would be appreciated.

[turbid kernel]

Target for the medics lol

[atomic comet]

confirming, new plan has HATs staying docked since we'll offload units at the spaceport right?

[pliant fjord]

@fast cobalt @sturdy dew @wintry pawn @vestal ice @ember python
UPDATE. DUE TO WONKY RULES, WE CAN ORBITAL DROP THIS TURN.
We have to kill the frigate, but we certainly can.

[pliant fjord]

If they paradrop, they can attack the same turn, but not if they deploy from starport I think

[plain dew]

I think redwall can make it if we pop the frigate, you might want to add them to your doc

[atomic comet]

ok so still plan to paradrop a portion of IH

[twin widget]

ATLAS, NE Pad has been reserved for you to land on.

[pliant fjord]

they can't

[wintry pawn]

Did Shack make a ruling on this?

[pliant fjord]

Yes

[twin widget]

oh fuck the coordination needed-

[plain dew]

womp womp, next round

[plain dew]

your off the hook this round

[twin widget]

We can't clear that many pads-

Oh thank you.

[ember python]

I'm gonna start looking at spots to drop on. my inclination is to drop and then sprint out evasive behind an enemy formation and then do a little turn and ass blast them

[wintry pawn]

What exactly changed?

[plain dew]

If we kill the frigate, it only cost 1 move to get to Elim, which puts us in drop range.

[wintry pawn]

Ah.

I see.

[pliant fjord]

But, we're confident we'll kill the Frigate

[plain dew]

i read that as redwall could also dock, rip

[pliant fjord]

unfortunately, they're 3 speed

[wintry pawn]

How the LZ looking?

[pliant fjord]

so it's 1:Nav-1, 2:Elim, 3: not enough speed to dock for Redwall

[plain dew]

on fire

[wintry pawn]

Where is everyone landing?

[plain dew]

specifically like this. Fully surrounded, and partially about to be overrun.

IH is most likely going to paradrop onto 3218 on the SW to help shore that side up

SE is light on contacts... so we probably arnt needed right away there

[wintry pawn]

ODTSs could put the hammer down around here or here and hit these guys in the back.

[plain dew]

The NE is hot... but its manageable If we go in coordinated. NW is on fire, especially with those unknowns coming in.

[vestal ice]

Right mech bros. Where are we needed most?

[wintry pawn]

If we land here we can clear these guys out and push north or east.

If we engage those unknown contacts we can draw attention away from Storm.

[plain dew]

NE is where IH will come out with their main force, they wont be able to shoot... but they can at least deal with the threats there next turn.

The problem right now is our NW flank (near 3216 there are 9 hostiles (10 if you include the lone trooper) and we ahve ... 5 FS split among 3 units. With 7 unknown contacts to the west.

[wintry pawn]

We don't have a clear LZ over there.

Unless we want to walk.

[plain dew]

The road should be fine no?

[wintry pawn]

I'm not sure what the rule is on that.

[plain dew]

that is a good point tho, im not 100% on the ground there

[wintry pawn]

I am assuming the tile needs to be mostly clear.

I'd rather not take a bunch of losses on the drop in.

[plain dew]

agreed

[atomic comet]

trying to determine HAT movement. out of 7, none to reach elim if the enemy is destroyed? half to go lower orbit (3.5), so 3 left to move and drop units?

[warm elbow]

"Define priority: broad-spectrum civilian intercept, encrypted military band, or vessel-to-vessel tactical link? Efficiency depends on focus."

[wintry pawn]

IF we can clean up in the south here we can shift all of our attention north.

[twin widget]

Yeah... but I can't clear the NW or SW pads right now without

[twin cypress]

I just woke up what happened

[twin widget]

Causing a snafu

[warm elbow]

Confirm directive: prioritize high-yield data from large-vessel transmissions—limited range, high value—or execute wide-radius passive scan for broader situational acquisition with reduced resolution? Specify target economy."

[plain dew]

its all good, we got VTOL and drop pods and HATs

we just got to find a place to set them down

[twin widget]

IMO, drop the LMs in evasive on the NW front. They can run through the infantry and shoot them in the back.

[wintry pawn]

This hill here may also be a good spot to land, we don't know what those contacts are but they look big and mean.

[plain dew]

Your not wrong, but if possible, id like to limit losing units.

[vestal ice]

Where is the highest density of enemy troops? Could we deploy behind they to split their fire and give the pinned forces some relief?

[twin widget]

NW, SSW.

[wintry pawn]

I'd rather not land in the north.

[pliant fjord]

wonky rules, but if we kill the frigate (we can), we can automatically be at the city.
We can use saved movement to land Picket and Deploy BG12.

We can Orbital drop.

We still need ambulance medics and Infantry reinforcements, but the boarding plan is no longer necessary

[twin cypress]

Okay

So not long until shit gets real

[pliant fjord]

Shit's real now fam

[wintry pawn]

This would be the safest thing to do if we want to minimize ODT casualties, but friendlies are also in danger and they need help.

[twin widget]

I suggest you drop your LMs in the North, they can probably get through fine, and are running towards ENGIs and friendly forces.

[pliant fjord]

find yourself a unit to carry, and ask them where they'd like to be dropped

[plain dew]

@pliant fjord is there anyway we can know for sure ODT/drop troops wouldnt take fall damage?

[vestal ice]

So could I suggest 3220 or 3214?

[plain dew]

Or is it best guess?

[twin widget]

Storm: it's already a shitshow, what do you mean "it's about to get real"?
/teasing

[pliant fjord]

Don't land on a building and you're fine

[plain dew]

so the roads are clear?

[pliant fjord]

@ drop troopers, tell me where to go, and I'll go there. I'm working double time on a map

[wintry pawn]

I want to take a hill.

[plain dew]

basically: can they land in teh blue without casualties right out the gate from the landing?

[twin cypress]

I'm done with sitting here and watching fireworks in space, I wanna see the battlefield I can be active in

[wintry pawn]

Or get on top of a building.

[vestal ice]

Might be nice to have our back to a building to retreat into if shit hits the fan

[wintry pawn]

I want some cover, I can finally use my jump packs.

[solid hare]

just saying this now, I'm dropping the firebreathers at 3116, right in the retreat line for the enemy troops in that area

[twin cypress]

My idea is:
We drop in, secure a building, and everyone hits the ⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

[solid hare]

but have you considered...

[vestal ice]

If they know how to retreat

[twin cypress]

Portable hellbomb

[solid hare]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-tyranid-space-marines-titus-gif-4053401268298780302

[wintry pawn]

You're going to get yourself killed.

[solid hare]

maybe, maybe not

[twin cypress]

Only one way to find out

[solid hare]

and there's no glory without risks, besides they are PAI, sooo they're probably fine, not to mention the other drops happening in the area

[wintry pawn]

Really quick, what do the colors on the map mean gameplay wise?

[plain dew]

If you guys drop together, chances of death drop pretty substantially.

[solid hare]

I honestly have no idea, it's been a while

[plain dew]

Green: high ground
Blue: structure
Black: blocks LOS and movement (ground).

[twin cypress]

Okay boys, I'm heading off to work, I catch you later

[wintry pawn]

Yellow?

[solid hare]

very true, i figured we'd flank the enemy infantry as it is, that way they're pinned down from both sides

[wintry pawn]

This is piquing my interest.

[plain dew]

Yellow is just cover i think... im searching other peoples replys lol

[solid hare]

agreed but might take a minute to investigate

[wintry pawn]

What at the odds that this is some kind of big ass gun?

[plain dew]

Blue = buildings
Black = blocks LOS
Green = High Ground
Yellow = cover/concealment?

[solid hare]

I mean the spot is in a warehouse so... not too bad I guess?

[wintry pawn]

I could jump in over the wall and check it out.

[plain dew]

yea i mean dropping close to the enemy in 3116 good chance you save those wounded units.

[wintry pawn]

We do need to save our boys.

They got messed up pretty bad.

[solid hare]

yes... exactly as I planned, had nothing to do with cutting off retreat routes

[wintry pawn]

I don't think the clankers are running.

[pliant fjord]

Is Soteria prepared to go no-evasive?

[plain dew]

I need to sleep.

If you guys see fighters: this is our tentative flight plan. Pending fluffle buy in (sounds like we will get it)

[plain dew]

Yes, no evasion

ill eat the first HMG shot on the frigate, and fluffle fighters will chase/intercept enemy fighters so they cant bother us.

Also... waita minute

🤔

whats TF1 doing

they owe us a LS right?

[pliant fjord]

They've gotta reload/repair this turn I think

[plain dew]

damn your right, reload

man... coulda made the ground op easier

oh well

thinking was we pop the frigate, they sortie to elim, and then we got huge air support to clean up enemies this round

but alas...

okay, sleepy time, good luck planning!

[twin widget]

looks at STORM going from 100% combat effectiveness to 45% effective in a single turn

Yeah, we go shanked.

[twin widget]

Call in emergency reinforcements from 212th and Shovels.

Wait- fuck, they're tied up already.

[solid hare]

I'm going sleep too, if anyone's landing near my drop zone you're welcome to otherwise I will see yall planetside

[wintry pawn]

Here's what I'm thinking.

Red : ODT LZ
Blue : PAI LZ.

We take and hold hill 3218, PAI body block for the ODTs so we aren't taking too much fire, we mop up these guys and start pushing north.

[turbid kernel]

The Scan priority list has been updated with the new turn data

[pliant fjord]

What would I do without y'all

Probably Explode

[plain dew]

just keep in mind, IH will paradrop there. Will have a lot of our forces down south, with 1 PAI north.

[twin widget]

Please drop the LMs you have north, I'm begging-

[turbid kernel]

Interesting thing I found This unknown contact grew in size when an enemy entered a building. Not 100% sure what to make of it

[umbral pond]

I have a theory

[turbid kernel]

Please share

[umbral pond]

We know there taking people so it’s possible these are holding pins/pods for the Civilians

So it’s possible that they drop people into this thing

That’s why it’s bigger

Notice how this freighter is different

That’s all I got

[wintry pawn]

How much does IH have?

[turbid kernel]

Certainly a possibility. May be worth a scan to double check. There's a similar large contact up north. That could be another holding area if it's true.

[wintry pawn]

I could check it out.

[jagged mulch]

I think this is probably the most important thing to scan

[umbral pond]

I would like it if you orbit people could capture that orbital above Elim city

[plain dew]

they have 1 HVTOL, 3 VTOL, and then our 2 HATs worth of drop capacity.

[pliant fjord]

Better plan, we're blowing it up

[turbid kernel]

There's questions about that one as well. Mainly they seem to be taking cover? Odd behavior for bots. I don't think their AA or Arty like we were worried about though. But the proximity to a planned paradrop location still makes it a threat

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[plain dew]

that HVTOL will also have a MBT. They are going to have some punching power.

[turbid kernel]

Aren't you dropping next turn?

[wintry pawn]

We're not blowing up anything until we have positive ID on hostiles.

[jagged mulch]

Right, I got something

[wintry pawn]

If the rest of the TF can clear the orbit, yes.

[jagged mulch]

Not sure whether to send the pai to the east or west of the ODTs

The odd behaviour of the 5 question marks has me worried

[turbid kernel]

We'll need to double check what scanners will be operable in Fluffle. Then we can make the top priorities. I would like those 5 and the convoy in 3720 scanned.

[umbral pond]

What if there are civilians trapped onboard

[pliant fjord]

FYI science team. I'm gonna be deploying this turn, and won't be able to make a Comms Announcement. Is there a crewmember who might be able to do that? It takes a Primary Action.

[pliant fjord]

Not gambling Storm's entire regiment on a maybe from a ship that hasn't been scanned yet.

[jagged mulch]

*I'll add eureka and skywolf if they get more people signed up to them

[pliant fjord]

If we kill it this turn, we can deploy ALL of Iron Hammer

[turbid kernel]

It's another "The convoy is right behind us and we don't know how long a boarding will take and the longer we delay the more of Storm dies" kind of situation.

[umbral pond]

Understood

[turbid kernel]

Alright, going to bed folks!

[pliant fjord]

Phase 2 coming soon. (Frigate is dead, Picket Line Lands, all HATs/VTOLs descend, all Drop Troops drop).

[jagged mulch]

I'd like to ask if your ODTs, PAI and Light Mechs are ok with this

[pliant fjord]

Sorry, I've been neck deep in mapping, and don't know if the droppers came to a consensus

[royal sequoia]

Do you guys know what happened with the three enemy fighters on the gate map btw? They weren't shot down last I checked

[pliant fjord]

Current theory is that they were deleted because they were crew of an Orbital.

The Orbital blew up

No more crew

[royal sequoia]

I see

That would be grand

[pliant fjord]

If we're REALLY lucky, the same would be true here

[royal sequoia]

Indeed

[pliant fjord]

and the fighters killing Storm will just "Looper" themselves out of existence

[turbid kernel]

Bot fighter control system being destroyed? Sorry, going to sleep now

[merry summit]

Honestly up to the fighters themselves. I’m fine with 2 if they think they can take it

[ember python]

i'm not sure this is a good place for the mechs. we need space to stretch our legs

[pliant fjord]

Apologies, question became out of date with UPDATE: #1382037040438181950 message

[merry summit]

SW corner is probably the most ideal right?

Just getting off work so I’ll give a read thru when I’m actually home

[pliant fjord]

The short version is:
PL can land
ODTs can drop
Hats/VTOLs are still welcome to deploy, but will have 3.0 movement on the city map

All of Iron Hammer can get delivered

[jagged pagoda]

Morning, I’ve been informed we’re not boarding the frigate, is that correct?

[pliant fjord]

Map 3 will be the ground pathing

We can kill the Frigate

[ember python]

well, i'm not sure. for the light mech, speed is life, so if folks want us to end up over there supporting that front, i'm inclined to drop roughly at least 2 range away so as to allow for evasive maneuvers. though, i could be convinced that doing a standard advance might be a good idea this time

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, I think right now we just need the enemy dead more than anything

Before we lose more of our infantry

[jagged pagoda]

We can repair mechs

[ember python]

the real issue is that we can't just drop anywhere, we have to all be within range 3 of the ship's position in low orbit

so, we can't just all sprinkle all over the map

is my current understanding

helping the NW front seems like a very good idea

[jagged mulch]

Right, so only one of the mechs would be able to land up there then...

Unless perhaps we switched the PAI and mechs around?

Launch PAI from Banksia and everything else from Endurance

[ember python]

right now the mechs are on the Endurance together, so we can land together, but since one of the PAI has already submitted a landing spot there, all the other PAI need to be, well, effectively within 6 of them, since they could be the far edge of a range 3 radius circle around Banksia

though, Drœs and I can boogie so, i trust we can be on that NW front, just a question of positioning and yadda yadda

[jagged mulch]

Alternatively what you could do is land south west, and then move around the wall, and because of evasive you could scout around there and free up the scanners to scan one of the bigger question marks

[tiny whale]

Fairly sure we don’t have full 7 movement because we are loaded up, right?

[pliant fjord]

Load doesn't impact movement. It costs 0.5 to launch from the Flight Deck, and 3.5 to descend into Elim City Space.

3.5 = [half total movement]

[pliant fjord]

Orbital drop ships will be in HIGH orbit on the Strategic Map. We can deploy anywhere 🙂

[ember python]

o

ok, well, nevermind ALL that, all the drop pods CAN just scatter shot! no need for fiddly coordination!

[pliant fjord]

Regrets for faltering attention. Priority is Destruction of Vessel - type:Vulture. Outcome: Likely. Comm-Intercept Primary Action not required. If: no function, then: seek new function. Option: Perform Hailing Action to bolster Lumar morale. Seeking 25% increase.

Option: Minor targets for Com-Int do exist. Socialize with Scanner Units Fairlie & Stout for confirmation of potential targets.

[ember python]

Could there be value, vis-a-vis the fighters seemingly disappearing when Tormentor-1 was sunk, to performing Comm Int on them here to see what happens to them when their presumed mothership is destroyed?

[pliant fjord]

That is a good idea.

How's your pythonspeach?

[ember python]

could you querry our tin-can friend? i'm a periphery hick, i dunno how to talk computer.

[pliant fjord]

-# sigh... I love multicultural ships. I love multicultural ships. I love multicultural ships...
See above information from AJ.
Translation:
"Option: Target OpForFTRs to determine functionality with destruction of Orbital Task Manager."

The things we do to ask Shack a rules question XD

[merry summit]

*The things we do to make shack come up with an answer

[merry summit]

Picket line has enough LS to offload all of hammer right?

Does anyone in hammer want to be dropped 3 tiles out?

[pliant fjord]

Yea, they're still looking at VTOL and paradrop options to try and save as many storm troops as possible

[merry summit]

Well I guess it doesn’t matter how far out does it since we can come down wherever right

Has shack said anything about safe paradrop areas on this map?

[pliant fjord]

I don't have the screenshot, but the hills are safe zones

[merry summit]

Good to know

[pliant fjord]

3218 for example

[jagged mulch]

I think that's mostly those taking VTOLs and the drop pods

At this rate I think the only HAT that's gonna be paradropping anyone is LCKYDRP 😅

[ember python]

i'm coming around to Vivian's landing spot... maybe drop into 3214 and then come around the corner like a bat outta hell spraying lasers into the backside of the bots

[merry summit]

Maybe someone wants to come back up and get dropped somewhere else 🥺

[pliant fjord]

We can spread them around better with 3 hats

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, that might actually be a good idea if we want to quickly reposition our infantry

[pliant fjord]

(though they're not as well protected)

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[ember python]

almost certainly after we're done in ELIM (probably several rounds away), Atlas will be picking up all our toys and dropping somewhere else

[merry summit]

When’re we scanning that massive ? In the NW?

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, I imagine so

And then we could probably use the PAI or light mechs to see what those 5 question marks in the south west are

[pliant fjord]

Good Night Atlas

Welcome to Lumara! Orders are due <t:1751493660:R>

Now comes the part where I trust you.

• You know where the doc is. Look at the Operations tab for the plan!
• If you haven't read the Midround Events, please do so! They were very exciting!
• Tag each other. Ask questions, figure out where your squad is going.
• Our current plan has us eliminating the Frigate in one turn with Fluffle's help. As a result, the map will become a strategic map by default, and we'll be able to land and deploy BG12 alongside our Drop Troops as originally planned. Some units will deploy via VTOLs/HATs, it's still in flux. I'll wait for your final orders to come in, so please communicate!

Nobody Crosses the Picket Line

When I was told this was our motto, I had no idea how literal it would become. We're landing at the Spaceport, and this will be the beginning of the end for the Bots. They will NEVER take this spaceport while we're here.

We Deliver. On Time. On Target. Every Time.
🌐 🌐 🌐

[ember python]

is this basically what you were suggesting?

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, though maybe the PAI go up there and the mechs could drop south and us the fact they can be evasive to scout around where those 5 question marks are

[ember python]

next round, i'd definitely be looking to go evasive, that cluster of 5 sensor pings would be easily inside an LM's movement range

[jolly verge]

we can invest one of our scans

jesus 540 Messages was a lot (took ~half an hour)

[ember python]

kinda a lot happened

ok, i need to sleep. i will put my orders in tomorrow once more of the TF has weighed in

[jolly verge]

good night shift alpha, good morning shift epsilon!

[tiny whale]

I need reading glasses then 😵‍💫

[sturdy dew]

Goodmorning Atlas from what i read we aborted the boarding plan and we're rushing to the surface to help storm? Is it right?

[jagged pagoda]

Seems so

How do Engineers have the capability to paradrop?

[sturdy dew]

If they are carried by an HAT

HATs give paradrop to all infantry-like units

[jagged pagoda]

Brilliant.

[jolly verge]

Im tidying up the Orbital Actions Tab of our Doc by deleting everyone out of there who is in the Deployment Tab.
To everyone staying on board, I think its mostly important to keep the VTOL Bay and the flight Decks of the Picket line crewed alongside all weapons (only shooting no reloading).
Remember every Crewmember of the Taskforce can do every Crew task in every ship

Also at everyone who wants to put their boots to the ground, reserve your spots in the Vehicles (SkyWolfs HAT is reserved for our TF) in the Document

[sage perch]

even if we are boarding, I am still opening fire, because a Fire would help the boarding action, and as long as we don't kill it we are good

And Shack probably won't let us kill a ship with friendlies aboard

[topaz rivet]

We aren’t boarding so fire away

[sage perch]

Orders submitted

forgot the picture, resubmitting

[topaz rivet]

Hey, @twin cypress wanna land some marines on the road at 3115 and 3215?

[stuck mountain]

cool more orders, let me know where you want me?

[topaz rivet]

If you can wait to see if any other Inf deploy dirtside, you could pick a gun to fire/reload

[jolly verge]

VTOL Bay Picket line (or any other ship) to resupply storm would also be a great option

[olive cliff]

Would it more beneficial to crew the VTOL bays or the Flight Decks this round? (already submitted orders staffing the flight decks but i can re-submit if desired)

[topaz rivet]

I don’t think the flight decks have anything to do since all fighters are launching this turn

[olive cliff]

Okay cool

[fast cobalt]

do we have drop zones for the drop troops?

[pliant fjord]

Yup, and we can orbital drop this turn too. Weird map nonsense, but hey I'll take it.

[pliant fjord]

That part of the convo I missed. (3 maps this time, oy) Im going to wait for y'alls orders and bolster accordingly.

[sturdy dew]

I saw mentioned the "high ground" at 3218. Im not sure how safe it is. Depends a lot on how much troops will deploy near us

[fast cobalt]

it dose look like they are a bit out numbered to the south

the north ain't lookin to good ether

[pliant fjord]

Yea, those two spots look good to me.

[sturdy dew]

South and northWest are without doubt the sides under greater pressure atm.

With 4 units we should be able to clear both 3218/3319

[pliant fjord]

And we'll have 8 🙂
2PAI, 4ODTs, and 2LMs all at once.

[turbid kernel]

I know storm was specifically requesting mech support in the North. I'm trying to confirm where they primarily want combat support

[jolly verge]

Ill wait till most of the crew has declared their actions and will adjust my action, if nobody crews the vtol bay of the Flagship, ill leave the scanner

[sturdy dew]

If odts drop at 3218 we need some cover from the enemies coming from the left. Or they are gonna hit us in the back/flank

[pliant fjord]

@halcyon ridge would you be interested in descending to Low Orbit to give Storm a couple more VTOL bays to hide in?

[turbid kernel]

I can take the VTOL bay. Moving over from one of the Flight Decks.

[jolly verge]

ill move you in the doc, or do you want to do it?

may it be more worth it if we deliver our medic via vtol and drop our engi per hat with the rest of the infantry?

[turbid kernel]

I can do it. Just lounging. I'm thinking we VTOL the medics since they'll be more crucial for Storm. But it's also dangerous there no matter what.

[pliant fjord]

Panacea said they don't intend to deploy, and will stay aboard the hospital ship to treat incoming wounded if we get any.

So just one medi do deploy

Also, good morning Atlas Alpha

[jolly verge]

C Null Query: intent(action)

[sturdy dew]

3219 could be a good paradrop zone for our infantry if we decide to cover the southern side

(unless it counts as a bad landing zone due to the buildings around it)

[pliant fjord]

Yup, can't drop onto buildings. I think 3218 for paradrop, and odts can hit the NW corner

[sturdy dew]

I cant look for the rules atm. Can paratroopers fight in the same turn as they land?

[topaz rivet]

It seems like we still have a spare VTOL?

[twin widget]

Yes. They can actually dig in as well IIRC since paradropping doesn't cost movement.

[opaque pagoda]

Alright folks am I still dropping medical on Enni?

https://tenor.com/view/where-we-dropping-gif-10062167679310440337

[tired patio]

Quick question, since I don't have the doc access at the moment we have two. Com intercepts in the fleet? Or just one?

Yeah, para dropping and dry potting are really powerful

[sturdy dew]

I think 1 comm intercept. We have 2 standard scanners if i recall right

[turbid kernel]

Just one in Atlas, Captain

[tired patio]

Okay, let's make sure we're getting a scan of the Target before we com intercept. One of those powerful teamwork abilities! Carry on

[solid hare]

I'm heading to the Northwest area to cut off their retreat

[topaz rivet]

I’d like to a vtol down and likewise ambush the NW attackers

[vestal ice]

Do we even know if this enemy will retreat?

[turbid kernel]

Not sure, the Frigate did but the bot infantry are moving like they won't

@pallid sequoia Still want to be VTOL to a near death Storm unit?

[opaque pagoda]

If so, I’m your huckleberry

[turbid kernel]

Okay, I confirmed they got a medic for Enni but need one for Angel. Same area they're just up on the platform.

[solid hare]

Even if they don't, they will be pinned between the starport defenders and whoever's flanking them, like shooting fish in a barrel at that point

[opaque pagoda]

What’s that zone called?

[turbid kernel]

Storm has been just calling it the NW since it's the Northwest part of the Starport. However, if you're looking for a hex coordinate then it's 3216 @opaque pagoda

[opaque pagoda]

Gorgeous

[pliant fjord]

you can always submit a picture with a circle!

[opaque pagoda]

Ah! Good to know

[sage perch]

@eager pendant Varsson has made his second shot, so are you staying aboard to reload R5 or are you heading down

[gentle jay]

Hello Atlas! Been skimming some of the planning docs but just want to clarify. Would IH still have fighter cover for a HAT drop into hill 3218? And I saw some talk about you guys deploying odts/paradropping there yourselves, is that still happening?

[topaz rivet]

Yes and yes

[gentle jay]

Gotcha! Thanks for the update!

[turbid kernel]

@warm elbow @jolly verge @maiden belfry Hey science team, I know the plan is to destroy the enemy frigate this turn. But I'm a paranoid sort and worry if the frigate might move away or even worse descend into atmosphere. Could CNull and one scanner Hit up the enemy frigate so we know. It may be a little too late but any info is good info

[pliant fjord]

FYI, we were supplied last turn, so you've been reloaded and are at 3/3 (2/3 after this shot).

[jolly verge]

we can do this.

[turbid kernel]

Much appreciated

[sage perch]

but point is, Spec has a choice now, stay on to reload Varsson every three rounds, or join the invasion

[pliant fjord]

he just posted, he's reloading

[eager pendant]

Ill stay

[sage perch]

then please enjoy the complementary just barely nonlethal coffee in the break room

[sturdy dew]

Its seems drop troops are shifting away from 3218 and planning on dropping in the north west of the spaceport

[pliant fjord]

And the FTR escort is going to be from Fluffle

[vocal coral]

so i will be dropping with my vtol to 3216 with @jagged mulch as medic, what should my movement/action tracker be?

[gentle jay]

Gotcha! Didn’t want to double up if y’all were deploying there but if they’re going elsewhere we’ll probably still deploy that way

[gentle jay]

As long as something is there to take the hits 😅

[sturdy dew]

Its possible that our paratroopers will drop in the same hex, 3218, but im not sure and they're few units anyway

[gentle jay]

Well honestly more bodies to divide up the shots the better imo

Just wanted to make sure IH didn’t need to shift deployments so that the whole of our combined infantry wasn’t dog piling the hill lol

[tired patio]

How we looking on being able to take the thing out?

Do we have enough firepower?

[turbid kernel]

We think so Captain. Between Soteria squadron's attacks, Silvers AA missle, and Fluffle's bombers we're looking at 7 hits not counting Pearl's AC.

We're still going to Scan and comm intercept the target however, since there's a real possibility of the Frigate retreating or worse descending into atmosphere to escape us

[pliant fjord]

We're running a circle pattern to ensure we hit it in the rear.

4 FTRs (+1 AA missile) non-evasive = 5 Hits
2 Bombers from Fluffle = 2 Hits
Black Pearl AC = ~1 Hit
[Fluffle Ship] AC = ~1 Hit

Should be enough to overkill it if necessary

We're also putting Scanner and Com-Int on it to make sure it doesn't do something unexpected

Shout-out @vivid crater for the map manipulation idea

Everyone (including me) assumed it wouldn't work, but Orbitals are just giant space-logi-trucks and can split up their movement just fine. 🙂

-# it's just the big guns that fire at the end of movement

[vivid crater]

Hey, how'd you know I was just checking in to post my orders? lol

[pliant fjord]

I am everywhere
(I didn't, Reaper said to give you credit)

[tired patio]

Do we have any maps of the current plan? Just trying to picture how we're moving and what we think the enemy's going to do.

[turbid kernel]

This was the last tactical map

The strategic layer as well

[pliant fjord]

Landing Map still missing final drop/landing information

[pliant fjord]

And I'll always try to keep our Operations tab updated with any maps I make early.

[topaz rivet]

I’ve pinged R.Uber for a ride but I have no response

[pliant fjord]

They're on Omega shift I think, it's 1am. You can post your order and ping them in the order so it's super clear

[sturdy dew]

Ixen you'll join ignite on the NW side?

[pliant fjord]

Most likely, I'm going to go last this time and follow

[topaz rivet]

I suppose that’s the best option

[pliant fjord]

(I've been so focused on coordinating the space battle, I haven't been able to look closely at the ground yet. I trust you all.)

[elder plover]

Hey you beautiful people, medevac nerd from Storm here. What ship class is yall's hospital ship?

[turbid kernel]

A corvette

[elder plover]

Thanks!

[sturdy dew]

Actually i think we don't really have a solid plan atm. Im going to be at home in 2 hours, and i'll try to ping a bunch of people xD

[pliant fjord]

I think orbital dropping on the NW corner is a solid plan

exactly where is up to y'all

[twin widget]

Corect. ANGEL and HOUND still need a medic, have inputted their requests and locations into the C5 Logi Hub.

[elder plover]

We have one person standing against a tide in the SE ans SW as well...

[twin widget]

Descending into ATMO shouldn't be too big of a problem.

[twin widget]

RHINO is getting heals from IH MedCorp already.

[elder plover]

Good to know!

Do we have any plans to bolster that defense?

[plain dew]

SE should be fine... theres enough units down there and not alot of enemy.

NE is concerning, and IH is going to go paradrop some SW to support down there.

[twin widget]

Picket Line, this is ELIM TOWER, NE PAD Reserved for ATLAS. Cleared to Land.

[elder plover]

Wonderful!

Can't wait to see the sky crack open.

[twin widget]

SSW Hill 3218 is getting a few drops from what I saw.

[plain dew]

NW is.... dire though.... which is where our focus is going from the sounds of it.

[elder plover]

It was at this moment I realized I wasnt in Storm comms.

My deepest apologies

[atomic comet]

in 4 hours I'll write up my order to fly some Iron Hammers around and they are dropping in 3218

[pliant fjord]

also, finally caught up with Fluffle's FTR flight, and they'll be able to keep the fighters too busy to shoot at anything other than them

so the Airbus Squad is good to go

[jagged pagoda]

I'll write my order when I get home, after figuring out what my order is 😅

[jolly verge]

what kind of scan on the vulture will be valuable? should I scan the hipoint max another time or what kind of different equipment they have on them?

[turbid kernel]

I think a hit point max would be most beneficial.

[plain dew]

@pliant fjord small note, just make sure Reaper is on point for when our fighters go into the orbital, as we will get shot by that HMG. Its my flight plan so i get the honors of eating it 😂

[craggy dragon]

Hey, so I heard the other Engineer is thinking of dropping down. Is there a specific spot on the Endurance I should man or a thing I could do for damage control?

[pliant fjord]

you got it top gun

[pliant fjord]

Banksia VTOL bay is uncrewed

(you're not bound to a ship btw)

[jolly verge]

dmg control is not yet needed, you can deploy yourselves or crew on any vtol bay (i think they are the most important modules at the moment)

[pliant fjord]

deploying is not a bad plan either, yea. you could hop on a HAT and paradrop with Iron Hammer to grid 3218

[craggy dragon]

Yeah, I don't have a preference. So if the VTOL bay is the most important right now, I can crew the Banksia VTOL Bay.

[plain dew]

@untold tusk @marsh osprey @vague shuttle

Squadron Soteria, happy order submission day. Please see the attached flight plan.

Our objective is mission critical, so make sure you drink some coffee before spinning up.

After entering the AO, we are going to link up with friendly bombers from fluffle and continue without evasion towards hostile target Vulture. We will hold fire until we see the backside of Vulture. The backside of Vulture should be unarmored, allowing our weapons to maximize damage. Pilot Silvers will use an AA missile as well.

The destruction of this frigate is mission critical for our drop troops and ground forces. Reaper will be on point and is expected to take the HMG fire.

Good hunting.

[untold tusk]

[plain dew]

also sorry to ping you again @pliant fjord , but wanted to report that HADES can no longer be pinged in the server. I think its safe to say his craft boarded the ship, but the pilot was left behind.

[pliant fjord]

-# promote that man

Looks like he thought the garbage chute was the launch bay. Apparently we dumped him before we came through the gate?

[turbid kernel]

Maybe that's where Concrete Pete got that extra engine from

[jolly verge]

so we can man the fighter with somebody else and send them on a suicide mission because they dont know how to land safely?

[pliant fjord]

I'm guessing he blocked the whole server after the first ping. Probably the same way he treats dating, so no love lost lol.

[craggy dragon]

Brutal.

Haha

[jolly crypt]

ah so you no longer have a fighter? does this mean we need someone from fluffles to join the atlas fighters to kill the frigate?

[pliant fjord]

na, he's been absent since day one

signed up, activated, then vanished without a trace

[turbid kernel]

No they disappeared before turn 1. We haven't been adding them to the plans since

[jolly crypt]

oh so thats why you needed the extra AA equipment, I was wondering why you needed that when you have 5 fighters

[jolly verge]

but now we definetly have some spare parts to repair the rest of our fighters

[unborn stirrup]

His pilot wakes up hungover in a bar a day later after the fleet left

[twin widget]

We've been in another AO and dying for the last 3 rounds, screw you- /jk

[jolly verge]

I mean gameplaywise, it would also be an option to let somebody of the players with units who got KIA take them over and play that fighter (on the other side it would be unfair for everyone else not having this option and the DMs may have more work)

[pliant fjord]

don't wanna get anyone's hopes up, never seen that happen, but I'll put it in

[turbid kernel]

Oh please, you didn't start dying until last round! -also jk

[plain dew]

Me realizing the bombers need to fly over the frigate .... surely Fluffle bombers know that right, and im the only idiot who would encourage them to fly around it instead? We can still intercept the HMG first so they can fly around however they like.

[pliant fjord]

I'll update the map to reflect that

Aerospace can't be "stopped" by obstacles, so the path should just pass right over it

[plain dew]

Yea, i just realized i goofed if they joined with us, as we wont directly fly over the orbital if it sits still.

that would have been awkward

[pliant fjord]

I'm just glad you're thinking of these things

[plain dew]

live video feed of reapers cockpit as the bombers fly around the frigate

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[jolly crypt]

theres no need to worry about that theyre def flying over it

[pliant fjord]

lolol

Victorum goofed so we could fly

[plain dew]

Thank god, just me then 😂

[pliant fjord]

fixed

[plain dew]

okay, got to focus on work now, order is in. Ill check in again later.

[pliant fjord]

fyi, it's technically not "flanking" due to convoluted orbital rules

From Fluffle, it's official term is "Butt-Shot" (/s)

[jolly crypt]

whats that /s doing there? :p

[plain dew]

missed oppurtunity to call it back shots, but understandable

[pliant fjord]

Orders due <t:1751493660:R>

[pallid sequoia]

I just caught up on the chat -- it sounds like Angel needs someone to lay on hands? I had been planning to ride with @merry summit and paradrop, but if a VTOL is available and wants to take me 👀

My only question is if us medics are getting any additional fire support down there or if it's just us and the wounded. I'll go either way, but I wouldn't turn down some covering fire.

[pliant fjord]

I'll check with Gristle again

Doc has Star(engi) in it

As for reinforcements, yes, all ODTs (including me) are dropping in

They could still use a medic on the front line. Last I heard the HATs were dropping in grid 3218

[atomic comet]

first time doing a real move, so confirming what's valid with our plan. Flying over the city then dropping with a little movement, or immediate drop after launch

[pallid sequoia]

In or around 3216 in the NW? That's the part I was having trouble following.

[turbid kernel]

@opaque pagoda If they're still willing will be your VTOL, VTOL Lemming has put a hold order in, they seem to be providing cover as well our own drop forces coming in

[pliant fjord]

ODT exact spot is still being debated, but NW corner is our plan yea

[pallid sequoia]

heroes

[turbid kernel]

Here is your LZ

Talon 1 will be making room for you on the platform where Angel is

[jolly verge]

otherwise we can service lemming on our ships

[pallid sequoia]

sign up under Deployment Methods tab has Star in Gristle's VTOL and Noble with R.UBER, unless those are not current

[pliant fjord]

Oh. Star was in Gristle for the boarding plan

that's why he's there. I'll double check, but you should be good to go there

Another HAT might consider deploying with Small Supply, so we can refill the Hammer Logi-truck on our way out.

[jolly verge]

we have slots left, we may just fill the open slots
you also wrote that vtols can transport 6FS AND 2 small supply

[pliant fjord]

Since we won't be completely full of paradroppers

[plain dew]

IMO i would end directly over the starport if you can. You dont want to go too far NE just incase something unexpected happens to our lines there.

[pliant fjord]

yea, not a bad idea, plus you'll be in the perfect position to re-dock at Picket Line's Flight Deck

[topaz rivet]

Medics should get VTOL priority, I can paradrop

[craggy dragon]

Okay so I'mma get in and crew the Banksia VTOL Bay G. Should I state I am ready to reload and repair as needed? Just want to make sure I write my order correctly

[jolly verge]

just write something to the best of your knowledge and if something is wrong then ixen will tell you

[pliant fjord]

we need both, so Inf/Med is still a good idea

[pliant fjord]

basically, you get 1 Primary Action, that can be used to do one Orbital thing. If you want to include that you're "standing by to repair if needed" in your RP, that's fine, it just won't affect the game state

[opaque pagoda]

@pallid sequoia welcome aboard

[craggy dragon]

Okay, so should me action be crewing or would it be repair reload?

[opaque pagoda]

Am I good to put in orders then?

[pallid sequoia]

Sounds like we've got our mission, boss ✈️ 💉

[untold tusk]

Are the Sierra AA Missile Pods missiles Heat seeking or Active Radar? Or am i going crazy and its actually just one missile

[turbid kernel]

You should be, let us know if you have questions. Stay safe

[opaque pagoda]

How in god's name is this text-based game giving me actual nervous stomach about flying

[pliant fjord]

Ah,

Order type: crewing VTOL bay G
Movement/Actions: Repair & Reload

[craggy dragon]

Thanks!

Just wanted to be sure I cross my T's and all that jazz

[turbid kernel]

Because it's a damn good game lol

[pliant fjord]

25% Logistics, 25% Roleplay, 25% Tactical War, and 25% Memes

Equals 100% awesome

[craggy dragon]

Okay posted!

[pliant fjord]

Speaking of memes. New absolute banger from Fluffle:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382040199797801031/1389992659577471100/Shack_is_typing.gif

Speaking of Roleplay. Ixen will be busy pounding the ground this turn, so the option to perform a game altering hailing action is open to anyone.

A VTOL can choose to broadcast something (instead of firing their weapon),

[jolly verge]

but this takes the whole primary action of a unit, right?

[pliant fjord]

Yes

I think none of the Flight bays need to be crewed this turn though, so if Oxide or Finest or our spare HAT pilot want to take a stab at it, please do!

I added "Hailing Action" to the Orbital Actions tab too

[turbid kernel]

We may want to send an all channel messages to fiendlies not at the starport to mark their position in any way possible. This would help determine friend from foe with the unknown contacts

[vague shuttle]

I forgot it was order day today and im part of shift omega :skull:

[pliant fjord]

lol you made it, no biggie. orders look great. ignore the 1000+ messages lol

[vague shuttle]

I saw i got pinged so i started scrolling and made it like 200 messages and it was still at 8am lmao

[pliant fjord]

Usually best to check the pinned comment first to see if it was edited with a recent plan before trying to read everything

-# not me though. I have to read everything

[ember python]

alright, i'm at work, so i can't keep up on the discussions. feel free to throw me a ping, if yall want me to drop or move someplace else, if nothing changes i will do something to this effect:

[pliant fjord]

Looks good to me. NW corner is the plan then.
-# where'd you get that drop pod icon I can haz?

[solid hare]

We need to save that

[maiden belfry]

Afternoon all, looks like a 40k drop pod good question

[opaque pagoda]

Hey @pliant fjord mind if I run my order by you to make sure it's all good?

[pliant fjord]

Oh, while you're here. Looks like most ODTs are gonna drop in the NW corner, leaving you alone over there. for your original plan, if those '?'s are enemies, you're not gonna survive that

[pliant fjord]

always, feel free to PM me, or just post here

[opaque pagoda]

Unit Callsign: Gristle
Unit Type: VTOL

Carrying: Medic team Martini

Order Type: Advance
Movement/Action Tracker: Moving to landing pad in hex 3216. Picture supplied for context, purple circle drawn for specificity.

Starting Location: Aboard the Picket Line
Ending Location: NW Landing Pad

Unit Special: N/A
Facing: West

Roleplay: Gristle's hands fly across controls, plugging in commands as fast as a trained stenographer. Turning pure instinct, pure brain electricity into movement as the lumbering VTOL races towards the landing pad, to deliver much-needed medical support to Angel. As the ship chugs past the distance, the pilot and his passengers begin to feel the gunfire coughing away. Gristle smiles, and the coms crackle to life.

"Welcome home friends! Let's go ask an Angel if it wants refreshments."

Here you go TACCOM, howsit lookin

[pliant fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-its-beautiful-gif-14598256

[twin widget]

You mind getting your TF Ground units to fill out their loctaions in this coordination sheet under the "ATLAS" tab?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

[solid hare]

Good point, looks like I'm not the only one in the area with some of the other talk going on.

[pliant fjord]

I'll mark them down as they come in, sure

[solid hare]

Either way, I think for now we'll be okay, but I admit it is a risk with the question marks there

[pliant fjord]

Perfect. No grid coordinate needed with pic attached.

[twin widget]

me suffering trying to coordinate 5 BG/sTFs at once

[pliant fjord]

shares in your pain

[vestal ice]

Can I have my drop pod target to land on enemy troops?

[pliant fjord]

-# Don't over extend yourself. First couple rounds have been great for training, now its time to just trust your crew to do the planning, and answer their direct questions as needed.

[maiden belfry]

needs to be unobstructed I believe or you take damage

when landing

I think

[pliant fjord]

Not explicitly, you might get lucky like Storm's tank

[vestal ice]

And would do damage to enemy troops?

[twin widget]

Oh, I'm not trying to deal with just one BG/TF specifically, I'm just trying to point out if all of you are landing on each other and poking you guys to strongly reconsider.

[twin widget]

Oh, no, the bot was dead before the tank landed on them.

[pliant fjord]

It's not an order or an action, but you can RP it

[maiden belfry]

I think and 100% check this but when I was looking at that to take the droppods, you take damage I dont recall they do

[pliant fjord]

sounds good, I'll reinforce you if we think NW corner will hold with what's coming

[maiden belfry]

let me check as well actually will reply here too

[fast cobalt]

still trying to pick my DZ. not sure which side needs more help

[pliant fjord]

NW corner

practically overrun

paradroppers are hitting SW

[fast cobalt]

roger roger, targeting 3116 and priming drop pods

[maiden belfry]

so its paradropped infantry and light vehicles that take d4 damage if landing in an occupied hex, it doesnt say you cant or take damage when drop podded however, but they both share the word "dropped" in the sentance so er

I dont think you take any damage and they wouldnt take any mechanically, I think

something well need to ask as well

[pliant fjord]

Yea, unless you do something ridiculous, like ODing onto a building or into a river, you won't take damage.

[ember python]

quick question -- only orbitals need to plot their attacks at the end of movement, correct?

[untold tusk]

Do we have Enemy Fighters firing on us while on our flight plan?

[fast cobalt]

going through the orders and ignite PAI is landing in the same zone which is funny because Cpl storm really really likes power armor and wants to get some

[pliant fjord]

Correct, they don't have to pick their target if they don't want, just declare that their weapon is hot.

HMGs are exempt from the rule, and can fire during movement.

[pliant fjord]

should be no more than 1 HMG on the Vulture. Fluffle is intercepting the enemy FTRs

'Soteria's goal is max damage on the Vulture

[jagged pagoda]

What do I put in my order if I'm getting deployed?

[untold tusk]

Whats that then?

[pliant fjord]

Those are the fighters Fluffle is intercepting

they won't be able to target Soteria

[maiden belfry]

just had a thought I cant believe I forgot to think about

do the drop pods need to be manned to drop pod?

[pliant fjord]

nope! no crew required to drop

[topaz rivet]

But they use a primary action to drop

[solid hare]

Sorry say again?

[jagged pagoda]

It seems there are no more spaces on VTOLs and HATs to deploy this turn :/

[maiden belfry]

thanks guys, much appreciated

[jagged pagoda]

Unless an Engineer counts as an Atlas marine

[pliant fjord]

You do

[plain dew]

the way the intercept rules work, fighters have to target an enemy fighter that shoots it. Essentially, fluffle fighters are going to taunt the enemy fighters so we can hit the frigate without fear of being hit by them.

[jagged pagoda]

Awesome

[merry summit]

Alright. Awful timing to have to fall asleep.

What’s available for me and do I have anyone trying to get a ride at this point?

[jagged pagoda]

Me!

[merry summit]

Where to soldier?

[jagged pagoda]

Vehicles needing to be repaired and preferably not too much enemy fire.

[pliant fjord]

Mass paradrop target is 3218

[jagged pagoda]

How do I state in the order what I'm doing in terms of dropping?

[untold tusk]

Gotcha

[merry summit]

Pick a hex u want to drop in and I’ll put my flight path right over it

[pliant fjord]

@ Star
order - advance
movement - paradrop [free], move to somewhere [0.5] build sandbag/trench/whatever [0.5, -1 supply]

[fast cobalt]

i was just looking through the orders and seeing if 3116 had people dropping into it and CPl storm part of the 32nd ODT really wants to get power armor because he thinks they are cool so he is gonna be excited to see power armor

[pliant fjord]

"Put those RP posts in italics and quotation marks, soldier!"

[plain dew]

If you can, try and end directly over the starport for pick up & reduce the chance of an enemy accidently hitting you. Good flying.

[jagged pagoda]

Where can I find the most up to date map of Elim?

[pliant fjord]

campaign briefing room

[solid hare]

Ohhh okay, i'm guessing they are heading near there as well,m

[twin cypress]

Shouldn't be a problem Sir

[topaz rivet]

Bwahaha!

[pliant fjord]

Sweet, that's another pair

[vestal ice]

Right @ light mechs. Are we dropping as one unit?

[pliant fjord]

I'm really glad we only have two VTOLs to coordinate XD

[merry summit]

Careful selecting a safe place to paradrop so u don’t lose your unit to fall damage

[pliant fjord]

#1383066706724913293 message

LCKYDRP flight plan

[jagged pagoda]

Alrighty, thanks for reminding me XD

What are the green-marked zones on the Elim City map?

[pliant fjord]

elevation

[jagged pagoda]

Does it provide any benefits?

[pliant fjord]

+1 damage to attacks, possible blocked L.O.S

[jagged pagoda]

L.O.S?

[topaz rivet]

Now I’m worried we’re over crowding the NW

[pliant fjord]

Line of sight

[jagged pagoda]

Nvm, line- yes XD

[pliant fjord]

Two mechs, 4 ODTs, and you should be enough to retake that corner

[jagged pagoda]

How many are landing on 3218?

[merry summit]

They’re over speed. Forgot loading unit costs

[pliant fjord]

right now, 6

[jagged pagoda]

Awesome, so I should be safe there.

[pliant fjord]

You shouldn't need loading costs from orbit

[topaz rivet]

Currently landing in NW. Though if someone could run the numbers to see if flanking NE is better, I’d appreciate

[pliant fjord]

-# oh I hope I'm not wrong about that

though, you could deploy from the PL in atmo if that's better

[merry summit]

Never seen any exception for that. I’ve done spreadsheets of unit drops over time with cobalt under that assumption as well

[merry summit]

That was my plan

[pliant fjord]

from what I understand (which is very little), deployment capability trumps hyper-focused movement tracking, crew and carried BGs don't need to load/move from within the orbitals.

[merry summit]

Saves 3.5 speed at the expense of having a set starting location

[pliant fjord]

like crew doesn't need to track their "transfer to this ship via VTOL" movement, so why would they need to preemptively load up into a HAT?

[merry summit]

DC just let’s a gm know how many units to expect on map, not the limitations of where and how they deploy. Mostly just a tracking tool

[jagged pagoda]

Do I set my start location on the Skywolf, or on the PL?

[pliant fjord]

I think that's exactly the question the DC rules sought to avoid.

[merry summit]

With my understanding PL, but we’ll see what shack says

[jagged pagoda]

Alrighty, I'll hold off submitting my order until then.

[pliant fjord]

has he been asked?

[jagged pagoda]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Do I need to specifiy a facing if I'm unarmed?

[pliant fjord]

yes

[jolly verge]

@maiden belfry
We both choose to scan the vulture, but i dont think its worth it to use both on a target that is hopefully neutralized, should I change or do you want to change your order onto something on the ground

Im completely fine with both options for my squad

and congrats for your poem, I like it

[maiden belfry]

let me change it if you feel its wasteful as it was secondary, my reasoning was I think its not the last time well see vulture and knowing as much about it as we can for next time maybe helpful, what do you think?

thanks! that's a hobby of mine but makes me happy that you liked it

also what names were you thinking for our scanning group?

[pliant fjord]

knowing whether or not the drop bays are spawners might help, but there are a bunch of ground targets that could use some scanning

[jolly verge]

yeah, the main purpose of my scan action was to let us Comm Intercept it

and I now think yours is more valuable, we dont need to know their hitpoints, if they survive 7/8 hits, then we know it must have just 1 or 2 more (*surely * no frigate size ship will have more than 10 HP)

[ember python]

if we deploy together its a bit safer for us, but if we deploy apart we can react to new developments better, since we are way faster than any thing else on the ground, even before you factor in that we can't get bogged down.

[maiden belfry]

personally I think both are really handy to know, do they have any pods left, how many can they fire at once, exactly yeah can they respawn them? how much health it has is more blunt but its just as important at least to me

people can plan their attack knowing how much they'll need to smack it

[pliant fjord]

lemme check with Fluffle

[turbid kernel]

This group would be near a drop zone. May be worth scanning at 3018

[maiden belfry]

but aye im happy either way

perfect Rocky thanks

if we move over thats what well do

[jolly verge]

yeah but well see how much it can tank after well throw everything and a kitchen sink at them, assuming shack will tell us, what hit and what not

[maiden belfry]

I think and im afraid im a newb but it just says hit in a combined action kinda deal

we can get an estimate though your not wrong

[merry summit]

According to Nalla (however much official-ity you want to give them) units do still have loading costs on orbitals

[jolly verge]

and the hipoint scan is only worth it IF we ever encounter another ship built the same and IF we recognize it. knowing how the drop pods work will benefit at a broader view i think

[shadow sigil]

My advice is to always plan with the worst case in mind.
Assume you need the speed until you get confirmation from Shack

[pliant fjord]

copy that

[maiden belfry]

Wise words, plan for the worst hope for the best!

Hmm, I personally think well see more of them but yeah your call Fair, I was also considering scanning the fighters to find out a bit more about them as well likely encounter them everywhere

[jolly verge]

I think ground intel is also very valuable now

[maiden belfry]

sadly ive got to go out, but im happy to change it will be back by the deadline, All are great options

very true!

[jolly verge]

nah, your fine ill change my thing

[pliant fjord]

that works

[topaz rivet]

Ok. Since my order is in I’m muting the server until I’m home in about 3.5 hours

[maiden belfry]

if you feel thats best Fair roger that mate thanks for asking and thinking about it with me.

[sturdy dew]

@round dawn @wintry pawn sorry for the ping guys, Yoger has submitted his order and is dropping at 3116 to cover the NW of the spaceport, are you with us?
we could occupy the building in the same hex, or the one in the corner, and defend from there. let me know what you think

@pliant fjord @solid hare this could interest you.

[pliant fjord]

alrighty, lets count it then. 0.5 per unit, we can balance the two HATs with our 5-7 declared paradroppers, so factor in 1.5 speed to load them? and 0.5 to launch from PL during descent, still plenty

[jolly verge]

thank you too it is great to have somebody talkign with me about my/our thought process

[twin cypress]

Although I was used as transportation, I still have to use my order, right?

[shadow sigil]

0.5 per cargo slot.
So 0.5 per 6 FS they load and 1 per vehicle
HATs are just special like that

[pliant fjord]

Dasfier is onboard with that location, and I'll join you.

[pliant fjord]

thankfully only infantry for our paradrop, no vehicles (yet)

[round dawn]

O i was told we weren't in range to drop and had to wait till the next turn