Task Force 2 - Atlas: Comms

[red brook]

There are 6 total HVTOLs

[twin widget]

(I'm an admin clerk IRL)

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, damn rare lol

[pliant fjord]

one of them is my buddy, I think he's TacCom-ing for STORM.

Yea, Honid

we've been doing some local playtest campaigns with a few friends

[turbid kernel]

Yeah Storm need their HVTOLs for their MBTs unfortunately. Oh that's cool! How's that going?

[pliant fjord]

the final boss has been really challenging

scheduling

but we're three missions deep, and ready for a finale

[turbid kernel]

Nice! Remind me to ask you more about it later!

[pliant fjord]

sure! the whole thing was basically for fun, but also to take a bunch of screenshots and send it to shack as an "I'd like to GM sometime in the future" package.

I had a couple custom things, including water-vessels, and expanded amphibious upgrades available.

And we played live on TTS, 5-6 rounds at a time

[turbid kernel]

That's awesome! Especially the amphibious upgrades. Love the idea of that

[pliant fjord]

One particularly brave Light Vehicle raced across an ocean bay past a heavy cruiser to deliver a team of medics to our stranded infantry

dodged 3 LRMs in evasive mode

[turbid kernel]

Not gonna lie, I'm really looking forward to seeing this fleet in action

[solid hare]

so am I wonder if you have jump jets... does that mean you can jump to an enemy ship in orbit and board?

[pliant fjord]

That's a No unfortunately 😦

PA can't operate in space at all iirc.

[twin widget]

There's no rule against it, but there's no rule that lets you do that.

Also, it's implied that you can use VTOLs to get units to the hatch of an enemy orbital and try to board that way, but you should probably reread the rules - I don't recall.

[pliant fjord]

VTOL is the best way without breaching pods

Doors have 1 hit and the same armor as the ship

engineers auto-succeed the breach action
Once inside, PA should obliterate all defending units

An Orbital can also hard-dock with a disabled enemy ship (i.e. no engines)

[red brook]

Breaching pods are cool

[pliant fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-halo2-bomb-gif-22410478

I wish... one day... that this will be possible

But alas

[wintry pawn]

Good evening.

[turbid kernel]

Evening!

[topaz rivet]

It’s highly likely enemy ships will have infantry on board and they’ll be able field 2 units against 1 boarder

[novel oak]

is there precision strike mechanics?

like instead of generic boarding we specifically board their guns or something

specifically with the intention to KO that system

[pliant fjord]

with a successful scan of the enemy ship, yes I believe so

[topaz rivet]

It’s in the rules (and I don’t think this changed) but if a boarder isn’t engaged they can chose to knock out a system which stays down for as long as the boarding unit uses their primary action on it

[sage perch]

Any of those PAI want to hop on the Pearl, you can either be marines or I can swap the cargo for an HDPS

[red brook]

You guys may want my handy dandy flow chart for BG deployment to show any BG asking for transport why it is unlikely

[pliant fjord]

I'm happy to stay behind a round or take a HAT/VTOL down if I'm needed

to get all our Drop Force down at once

[topaz rivet]

This will be good for math

[red brook]

sorry new version here: (Forgot decks and vtol bays have dc for their respective units too)

[merry summit]

Absolutely

Give me a few minutes and then I’ll be as fully online as I can without my computer

[twin widget]

You willing to VC on the server? Allow other people to hop in as well.

[merry summit]

Unfortunately I can’t do that rn

But if you want I can do a Q&A sheet like how Shack has as well

Have you asked Cobalt about doing a Q&A as well. They may be available to do a vc chat as one of the Logi Hub admins

[twin widget]

DMed you.

[atomic comet]

That's awesome

[high pike]

Shalom and good day, Taskforce Atlas!

What are the odds of y'all helping The Storm Blessed at Elim City?
Scout/assault/capture?
T-2, T-1, or T-0?
What AA, anti-orbital, and ground assault capability do y'all have?

[plain dew]

@high pike

planning to give a LS to TF 1 so that both TF 3, TF 2, and TF 1 can arrive at Elim (assuming we dont meet any orbital resistence and impeads progress).

You can check the google doc for what we packing but long story short: we have a lil AA, lil anti orbital(?) potentially, and we have a lil ground assault (drop pods and such)

If shovels really insist on going to cross roads Turn one, and theres no resistance in the cities, we might follow so they arnt completely exposed. But im guessing shovels will mirror the rest of the force and go to Elim.

[royal sequoia]

Good morning Atlas 🙂 How's it going?

[pliant fjord]

Seems to have slowed down. Picked up another PA, added a planning tab to the doc. I'm off to dreamlandia.

[jagged mulch]

Morning Simm

[royal sequoia]

Nighty night!

[jagged mulch]

And goodnight!

[turbid kernel]

Good morning, Vivian and Simm. Nothing much happening. Speculation and a handy chart involving Orbital operations was shared here. I'm off to bed too. Good night!

[plain dew]

question around "the plan" ..... for case black... should it be infested instead of invested 😂

ooo we have 3 fighters now?

I have wingmen/woman! Exciting

[royal sequoia]

Yup, with the added flight deck space, and people realising fighters in Battlegroups is very limiting, I think that might increase rapidly

Also, to give a precision to my idea from yesterday evening, if we get enough supply and people (and that's a big if), it might be a good idea to split the taskforce between ships carrying most of the ODTs, that will need HATs to pick them up due to numbers, and ships carrying supply and air support, with just a couple of ODTs that are easily picked up by VTOLs. The first task force would be only operating where airfields are, while the second can move between strategic points to wherever it's needed the most.

Of course it's just an idea that depends on a lot of things we don't know right now

[jolly crypt]

if its case orange then we're both supporting elim and crossroads? that cant be right, is the second one supposed to be case yellow or case gold or something?

[solid hare]

So what I'm hearing is if there is space battles we'll do that and the PAI will likely deploy on hostile ships as a boarding action, if no space battle then we'll deploy to Elim or Crossroads depending on code?

[red brook]

In victorum's Spreadsheet there is a section for ship templates that perform autocalcs based on loadout. I recommend checking it out

[jagged mulch]

We already have automatic calculations :p
Though I might make some additions to ours since I've come up with some more ideas after looking at your's

[royal sequoia]

I'm not sure we currently have the ability to do boarding actions. Don't we need boarding pods for that?

[red brook]

I tried to make mine as simple as possible by making the only thing you have to do is set the dropdowns to the equipment installed. It doesn't cover everything I want yet but its at least usable for now

[solid hare]

That or vtol I think if I was reading correctly

[royal sequoia]

I think so too. If Elim is under siege, I'm pretty sure our dear shovels ain't going in the middle of the enemy

[plain dew]

what can i say... i was an early adopter of abandoning BG's as a fighter 😂

its a shame honestly, i hope theres a way to make it work in future versions.

but its just a lot of hoops you have to jump thru right now.

I have ideas to make it work, but it would involve changing how the fighter works (basically, have the "rearm" but a default missile, and then give them the same D2 gun the VTOL has)

[royal sequoia]

I think it makes sense though. Fighters and bombers are reaally powerful. They need to be limited

[plain dew]

but that makes fighters really flexible

yea exactly

[royal sequoia]

yeah they're already too flexible

[plain dew]

youd also probably have to nerf the range

[royal sequoia]

I like the current implementation

[plain dew]

okay okay

what about

ammo 2

eh?

[royal sequoia]

they're already good enough as they are :p

[plain dew]

fake news, ive never seen them (altho that might have something to do with this being my first campaign).

[royal sequoia]

haha x)

I can guarantee you they already slay

they're an integral part of any campaign, they are extremely mobile

and they can deal we the biggest threat, which is enemy air

[plain dew]

yeah.... altho i think that actually is nerfed quite a bit with the way strategic movement works

[royal sequoia]

it just means air support is a decision as opposed to a constant thing

[plain dew]

but, you can argue that makes them balanced, which i also think is super fair.

exactly

alright, i need to sleep. Hopefully we pick up a few more friends.

[royal sequoia]

Good night! 🙂

[granite otter]

hi
wanted to check in, if flight deck slots from vote have been already filled up?

seems like joining TF is the best way for aerospace unit to be the most engaged in campaign

[jagged mulch]

We still have plenty of space for aerospace, so you're welcome to join us

[royal sequoia]

we do have a lot of space

[jolly crypt]

indeed we need two more bomber/fighters for simms destroyer turned aircraft carrier

[royal sequoia]

I'll try to invoke the last two people I know that could join. I'd lover to see more bombers though, they're amazing.

[stuck mountain]

It's interesting how many of us have shown up for this lol

[royal sequoia]

it's very impressive

for next game, I have something fun in mind. A one ship task force, a battleship, with everything it needs to be independent in it. To support a small fighter and bomber squad, ODTs, a few guns, and the modules needed to make each crew member happy.

[stuck mountain]

We should have enough points for some interesting stuff

Are they one use points or you get them back btw?

[royal sequoia]

you don't get them back

but you keep your stuff between campaigns

so what you buy you will keep forever

[stuck mountain]

Even if you swap unit?

[royal sequoia]

yup

[stuck mountain]

Interesting

[royal sequoia]

if you were to swap to a different unit in the next campaign, your old unit would still be there with it's upgrades, just inactive

you can have only one active unit per campaign, but your company can host different units

for example, if you look at my company, there's two units, an engineer and a captain

[stuck mountain]

Oh so your hosting one of your other units but it's not active?

[royal sequoia]

what do you mean by hosting?

[stuck mountain]

The same you mean here by hosting I would think?

[royal sequoia]

ahah

Yes. Let's say your company can have multiple units registered with it, but sends only one each campaign

[stuck mountain]

Gotcha cool

I can swap my crew to a captain and to a ship in next campaign right?

[royal sequoia]

yup!

actually it's not even a swap, it's a refit 🙂 So it's the same unit, you keep its upgrades in that case

[stuck mountain]

Yeah that's what I thought

Cool cool

[jagged mulch]

I may end up leaving the TF to go join one of the smaller BGs if they don't get the 15 needed

[jagged mulch]

Right, I have joined the Iron Hammers since they don't actually have a medic, and I feel like I'm needed more on the ground than I am up in space, wish you all luck

[humble urchin]

(+ I made a really good looking trans countryball, that must have helped)

[jagged mulch]

Shhh, don't tell them I got bribed :p

[turbid kernel]

This actually seems like a good idea my worry is ensuring both new TFs have enough to actually be viable on their own. The rate of people looking to join has slowed down and I don't want anyone to get screwed over

[humble urchin]

Rate of people joining is still steadily increasing over time 👀

Just, not 300 in a day kind of metric.

OH AND A META CAMPAIGN PING

BACK TO 100 A DAY 🤣

[turbid kernel]

I meant our TF we doing one person a day seemingly. But good point about the ping lol

[royal sequoia]

totally agree. That plus Fluffle

[turbid kernel]

Good point, though we also need to be mindful of how much more limited the logistics fleet will be when it comes to LS with a split. Since the larger ships may be split up

Also I'm noticing on the sheet that that 2nd battlecruiser never manifested. Without, I don't think we have a good split

[royal sequoia]

They are only coming on Tuesday, when the bot gives them their backpay for previous campaigns

[turbid kernel]

Ah okay, let's re-examine then and determine what looks best

[jagged pagoda]

Afternoon fellow humans, can someone bring me up to speed?

[royal sequoia]

Vivian is leaving us for Iron hammer. That's about it

[turbid kernel]

Vivian going to Iron Hammers and exploring the feasibility of splitting the TF into a drop focused one and a more dedicated Logi one

[pliant fjord]

In case orange we'll vote. It'll come down to how close the spaceport is to falling.

[pliant fjord]

VTOLs can deliver boarders. We can also hard-dock to a disabled ship.

[pliant fjord]

So long fellow Kobold. I'll keep an eye out for you on the battlefield.

[jagged pagoda]

And after she told me not to go to Phalanx... smh

[ivory anvil]

okay okay hear me out here, we get someone with mech doors for endurance so the mechs can also serve as PD or Anti-Orbi and we transition our ground forces to boarding forces using the VTOLs and completely remove the mobility issue?

[pliant fjord]

It's cantelope you gotta convince. Last CS on endurance will be whatever they pick.

Mech doors are awesome though.

[ivory anvil]

It would keep us as a single TF and would give us some more Anti-Orbi capability as well as keeping us mobile which is most of our defense RN

[royal sequoia]

that sounds fun. Their light laser cannon has less range and same damage as an hmg though, so I'm not sure they'd work very well for space battles

[pliant fjord]

Slap an autocannon on them though... and you've got a hell of a defense

[royal sequoia]

Mechs fighting each other on the outer of ships sounds epic though

[royal sequoia]

once we got medium mechs, it's gonna be a crazy strat

Another thing that would be possible is following flying shovels around

they can one turn build airfields, so they could just build airfields everywhere

[jagged mulch]

I also have one more thing to give you all as a thanks I suppose, currently working on an even better and robust crew spreadsheet

[royal sequoia]

it's even more LS optimised, since airfields (cost 1 LS), start with one more turn of supply than what a large supply would give you otherwise

[jagged mulch]

Give me about an hour and it'll be done

[pliant fjord]

In my local game, the enemy launches corvettes with two medium mechs. The mechs ha e 3LRMs and Autocannons, and the ship has an autocannon as well. Absolutely devastating.

[royal sequoia]

Don't forget about us once the operations start! 🙂 you can always come here to chat

[jagged mulch]

Don't worry, I won't

[royal sequoia]

Are you dm? That seems... almost too brutal

[pliant fjord]

I hoped to scare the player running the ship into buying more weapons.

In the playtest

But yea, 3 corvettes vs a Battlecruiser that wasn't combat focused did not end well.

If nothing else, it confirmed how screwed Atlas would be if we rushed ahead.

[jagged pagoda]

Yes

We should cower in fear of the toasters

[royal sequoia]

If I manage to get a second fighter and bomber, I'll feel relatively confident about the ability of the Triple to provide decent protection.

[ivory anvil]

and ill do the beep boop beep beep scaning for ops lackin

[jagged pagoda]

Yes

[jagged mulch]

And the new spreadsheet is done!

That took longer than expected 😅

Oops

It broke because I also need to import the custom functions

One moment

[humble urchin]

Fixed, and broke, and fixed again

[granite otter]

I can be this second fighter

[jagged mulch]

There we go!

It's fixed

[royal sequoia]

you're always welcome! 🙂

[jagged mulch]

Atleast I hope it's fixed

[granite otter]

Just to clarify - i put myself as crew, right?

[royal sequoia]

yup!

[royal sequoia]

What changed?

[granite otter]

Alrighty, thanks

[jagged mulch]

Well first of all the formulae I used to automate everything are a hell of a lot more robust

[ivory anvil]

this is the old one

[jagged mulch]

Second of all I added a bit for equipment we were sure we wanted to add

(Also because it made the automation more robust)

[royal sequoia]

nice!

[ivory anvil]

more or less it was streamlined

[royal sequoia]

Could you make it so that each Deck gives two spots for planes?

since i'm fairly confident this vote will pass

[pliant fjord]

If you promise not to run away to another TF, you could take globemaster (fighter) for your 4th air unit.

[royal sequoia]

no promises :p

but it's all dependent on the crew anyways

I don't decide alone

[jagged mulch]

Ah right

[pliant fjord]

Glorious. You da best

[ivory anvil]

looks like TS is turning into the air coverage for the TF

[pliant fjord]

Yep. That's why I don't want them to run away

[ivory anvil]

hey Simm how do you feel about your Destroyer getting turned into a light carrier lol

[plain dew]

nice meeting you! Good luck in your BG

[jagged mulch]

Good luck in Atlas too!

[plain dew]

also good morning

[royal sequoia]

that was the plan 😄

[ivory anvil]

ive got my work cut out for me dont I

[royal sequoia]

for now, we're actually severly under crewed x) We have to pilot, shoot the hmg, reload the hmg, man the scanner, and be ready to repair and rearm planes

[twin widget]

Don't have to man the scanner every turn, you can probably have that person also do the reloading.

[royal sequoia]

just the two of us

[ivory anvil]

hour 36 Pizza still hasnt left the scanner and is currently on his 8th cup of Recaf

[twin widget]

I sympathize.

suffering due to understaffed in Admin-

[plain dew]

wait does a crew have to reload planes that come into the docking bay?

I thought that was just a thing that happened

[royal sequoia]

it's an action

[plain dew]

it it per ship or just 1 ol action?

[pliant fjord]

The pilots can do it themselves, but it is an action

[plain dew]

ahhh okay

[ivory anvil]

nah make the pilots get otu and rearm their own stuff

[twin widget]

What magic did you think we were using to rearm them??? /teasing

[plain dew]

I thought it had to be the pilot action

i didnt realize someone else could do the action

[twin widget]

0.5 to dismount and again to remount....

[pliant fjord]

I think I remember one of our inf wanting to security the TS, so there will probable be one extra crew to do stuff.

[ivory anvil]

Gurnts doing everyone elses jobs...I dont miss that about the army

[plain dew]

so in theory then, if a crew is rearming, a fighter could attack every turn instead of eary other turn? (pending movement)

[pliant fjord]

Hopefully when our roster is final, my "duty roster" doc should clear all that up.

[ivory anvil]

so me maning the scanner is probably one of the most important things i can do so we keep contsnt intel the one way it would be that its only manned every other turn is if we got someone with a Comms Intercept so we would be able to see what they are going to do the next round freeing up the need to scan

[pliant fjord]

Three CS left, up to mini and Cantelope to pick. They've been AWOL for a while, but they'll probably hop back in before the deadline.

[royal sequoia]

I'm pretty confident

[royal sequoia]

that'll be a reliable action for you to do every turn until we hit combat

[ivory anvil]

Does anyone want me to automate the chart that effects the graph?

[ember python]

that would be incredible

THE PLAN has been added since I peeked the document last, and its a really solid addition.

[plain dew]

yea having the short summary/updated plan tabs is really nice when people wanna see what a BG is up to 😂

[ember python]

i think there might be value in organizing the crew name column into a rough order. if people are cool w/ that i'll do it once i have a more substantial block of free time. thinking something like Captain at the top, then Crew, then aerospace assets Fighters, Bombers, HATs, VTOLs, then Infantry, Medics, Engies, then drop assets last, ODT, PA, LMs. something like that.

[jagged mulch]

There might be a way to automatically do that

One moment

[pliant fjord]

Go for it! Might help to sort alphabetically first

Ctrl x /Ctrl v have been my best soldiers this week.

[jagged mulch]

There's creating a table but eh

[royal sequoia]

go ham on the docs 🙂 as long as you're not actually changing information or people's position on ships, anything goes I would say 🙂

[stuck mountain]

just copy and work out the sums

thats what im doing just trying to make it you only put the info in once

[pliant fjord]

When did your ship get an MBC? ...ever since I found my pencil

[red brook]

Feel free to copy the templates I made for ships in the victorum doc

[jagged mulch]

I don't think that's really necessary, seen as it's all been automated already

[stuck mountain]

in crewing (test) i've made the unit type and equipment auto fill if you put your name in properly, will work backwords that you dont even need to do that at some point

feel free to assist in the automation although mainly it will be for nexttime

[topaz rivet]

I’d like an automated DC calculator but I’m not sure my excel skills are up to it

[jagged mulch]

I could do it

But I just feel like it's too much clutter

[topaz rivet]

I was going to try in separate document maybe tonight or tomorrow night

[jagged mulch]

Might want to remove the equipment

The whole point of that part is for the ship equipment specifically

And sometimes less information is just better

[topaz rivet]

And now we have space for twice as many planes

[stuck mountain]

On where?

You need to see what you have to assign it to a ship

[jagged mulch]

The crewing part

Since the equipment in the sign up sheet has both ship and unit equipment

So it just clutters it all up

It might be best to separate unit and crew equipment tbh

Have unit equipment in the sign-up sheet and ship equipment in the crewing sheet

[pliant fjord]

Name one equipment and one "modules" maybe

Equipment is something you can equip

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[stuck mountain]

oh that, yeah will split it out later

for now it just copies everything

eventually the idea is you select your ship on the sign up page and it auto places you

[ember python]

i will do this, just later today when things are less hectic

[royal sequoia]

fyi, I've got another friend @unborn portal joining me as infantry, I'm finally getting marines

[unborn portal]

yes, I will join him as the security force of his ship

[pliant fjord]

Welcome aboard!

[royal sequoia]

with the new deck space we have, we can now hold an additional 5 planes btw x)

[jolly crypt]

welcome aboard warpit!

[royal sequoia]

it's a lot of planes

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, might get some more fighters and such too with how people are beginning to realise that it might just be better to join a TF than a BG for them

[royal sequoia]

it does make sense

having a mobile base of operation is better than no safe base of operation

[plain dew]

Welcome!

[unborn portal]

very nice

[pliant fjord]

Anyone feel like making a poster? We're looking for more aerospace

[jagged pagoda]

I no goodly with arts ;-;

[plain dew]

I can

at least give a try

[pliant fjord]

I feel like this represents our typical air-goals pretty well

the image at least, not sure what to put for text

[plain dew]

Are we really tho?

I see us as the one TF thats going to stay planet side

TF1 im assuming is going to eventually assault the moon

So yes its logi, but its more than that. Its ground support

[pliant fjord]

good point

Bombers then?

[plain dew]

Ive been generating some neat art

but yea, just need to nail down a good catch phrase or two

maybe like

[pliant fjord]

Infantry on your front line in 30 minutes or your money back.

[plain dew]

"Want free booze for life? Join TF2 Atlas as we support ARMCO ground operations, from logistics to drop pods and air support."

[plain dew]

tahts stealing BG3 a bit too much 😛

[pliant fjord]

I had no idea lol

[plain dew]

theirs is like "we arrive in 1 turn or your money back" or something like that lol

TF 2 Atlas: Combat Logistics experts. On time, On target, Everytime

[pliant fjord]

"Join TF2 Atlas to support ARMCO ground operations. Hella Hangars, Dozens of Droppers, and Sustainable Supply.
Perks include pizza, movie nights, and booze."

[pliant fjord]

Ooo, I like that one

[plain dew]

I also love this art that im using for my PFP

[plain dew]

do we just need fighter/bombers?

or is it anyting that flys

[pliant fjord]

current unused slots are 5 air units (any would be fine), 1 ODT, and 1 crew, and 1 VTOL

[jagged mulch]

Well I doubt you guys need many more HATs, so I imagine mostly fighters and bombers

[pliant fjord]

I'm imagining there might be a need to sortie our air units to support TF 1 at the moon

but yea, more combat air would be good

[untold tusk]

I was told that Atlas is our Supply Lines?

[jagged mulch]

It is

And well, orbital drop pods, but logistics too

[pliant fjord]

Yup. Supply & air/ground support

[untold tusk]

You guys willing to squeeze in some Fighters?

[pliant fjord]

100%

we've got 5 flight deck slots left

[untold tusk]

Cool

[plain dew]

look at that

my recruiting power is so powerful

i havent even finished it yet

[pliant fjord]

lmao

[plain dew]

and we got a recruit

😂

[pliant fjord]

How many do you have to spare?

[untold tusk]

Yep

[untold tusk]

1 squad

I think

3 fighters?

I dont know if the rules changed lol

[jagged pagoda]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pliant fjord]

It's 1 fighter per player, so three players, or just you?

[shadow sigil]

1 fighter.
It’s just them

[turbid kernel]

Sorry guys, taking the fam to Lambeu. I miss anything?

[pliant fjord]

sweet, check out the pinned doc, and sign up on the sign-up page if you'd like to join @untold tusk

[jagged pagoda]

Probably XD

No idea what though

[plain dew]

I can try and redo this in adobe light, i forgot i canceled my description, so i only have paint xD

at least try and rmeove some of the white space

[pliant fjord]

I'll try and juice it up in Inkscape

[turbid kernel]

Oh that's cool

[untold tusk]

Interesting. They changed the way fighters work?

[shadow sigil]

Every unit is now 1 vehicle or FS number squad members

[pliant fjord]

you can still fly in formation and stuff, just with other players

I can send you the up-to-date rules in a PM if you like, otherwise you can find them pinned in the meta-comm channel

[jagged pagoda]

I think having a ship in the background would make this even better

Like a carrier/cargo ship

Or a HAT

Or something like that

[jagged pagoda]

Yes, that :D

Love how the text follows the curvature of the distant planet

[plain dew]

its so funny, with these AI generation tools

i find so often the first one or two i get is just... by far the best ones

i got that one on the 2nd promt, but probably did another like 25 or 30, and yea, the look and colors on that one is so good

[jagged pagoda]

Agreed

[plain dew]

This one is real art tho

the others are just AI

[jagged pagoda]

It looks great XD

[plain dew]

ill try and see if i can get another good image

[jagged pagoda]

Okie dokie

[plain dew]

i.... kinda like this style? need th plane wings to be wings tho xD

[twin widget]

Joke Motto: 2 Round Rapid Response Guarantee, or your money back.

[plain dew]

i was close!

[twin widget]

noises of agreement

[plain dew]

lmfao the ai cracks me up sometimes

"how many moons should i give him this time in the prompt"

"yes"

[turbid kernel]

The gravity in that system is nuts lol

[twin widget]

*Terms and Conditions Apply.
Due to being the only Airmobile Rapid Response Force, BG STORM expects to be fielding more requests than it can handle. Your request may be deprioritized.
Another BG will be redirected your way if your request is delayed if possible.

[turbid kernel]

"Fire or Care, the package arrives. Guaranteed"

[twin widget]

3-body problem? more like n-body.

[plain dew]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[pliant fjord]

almost done

[plain dew]

omg yes, we can flood the metacomm channel with multiple posters

[pliant fjord]

this one is better I think

[plain dew]

Im just going to use allof them 🤣

[red brook]

I can add more of the available roles to it too if you want

[pliant fjord]

Sure!

[pliant fjord]

Love it

[ember python]

i think it may be a good idea to have 1 of the PAI come to the Endurance, since it has 2 heavy drop pod stations, whereas the PL has the 1.

[jagged mulch]

It doesn't matter either way, it'll take 2 turns no matter what since mechs need 1 heavy drop pod station

[ember python]

we could use 1 ODT also to use the drop pods most efficiently. but also, fucking rad.

[ember python]

yeah, but it takes 3 turns for 3 PAI to use a single drop pod station

[jagged mulch]

It takes 2 turns, since 2 PAI can drop from one heavy drop pod station

[ember python]

OH YEAH, lol. sorry. yes

[pliant fjord]

I'm also happy to deploy on a HAT or VTOL, or just stay behind as security if we're worried about that

gonna be busy enough I'm sure

[ember python]

my bad, i had a moment, lol.

[plain dew]

@pliant fjord this there a patch yet for TF2?

[pliant fjord]

there might have been one made about a week ago

not sure if it was approved

[plain dew]

I think the person J. Jorden was the one making them, but when i searched their post i dont see an Atlas patch

was there someone else who was making them?

[pliant fjord]

I'm guessing no, but i don't really know

[plain dew]

saved, thank you

[jagged pagoda]

"We carry your burden" - TF Atlas, love it :D

[plain dew]

quick, put it on one of those nicer recruitment ads, we can have a 5th one

[jagged pagoda]

YES

[maiden belfry]

that is so wicked

[pliant fjord]

oh, of course that's our patch, I put it in the "this is a logo" part of my brain

[royal sequoia]

You guys are doing some cool stuff while I'm gone 🙂

I really like the poster.

My own suggestion for a slogan would have been: 'We deliver everything '

[pliant fjord]

Ooo.

"We Deliver. On Time, On Target, Everytime."

[royal sequoia]

Ahah. Pretty good

But the poster is beautiful, nice picture, fits well with the text

[plain dew]

We should totally print business cards, so when we arrive on location, we hand them out to the other BG's 😂

[wide quiver]

Brass Wolf isn't really a business card kind of group. But if you give them some they'll hand them out.

[plain dew]

we can just mount it to the droppods, so on impact a bunch can shoot out like confetti or something.

[pliant fjord]

Here's attempt 2

[wide quiver]

Like the RAF over Germany

[pliant fjord]

lmao, "Sir, they're bombing us... with... Ads?"

@royal sequoia Are you gonna be around in... about 8 hours? I think you're on a Euro-timezone if I've been paying attention well enough

Would you be willing to post this again then?

[plain dew]

i can also post before i sleep, that will be in about 8ish hrs

[royal sequoia]

Sure thing!

[solid hare]

looks good!

[tired trench]

I will fly escort for any transports that want one.

[untold tusk]

Same here

[merry summit]

Tried to generate a few images and things went interestingly as they do

Kinda strange that dalle is perfect willing to rip off Star Wars of its own volition, but if I ask it to take inspiration from it it’s like no that’s illegal

[pliant fjord]

Store Destrayer

That 3rd one is really cool though

[tired trench]

I shun ai art. As someone who likes drawing and wants to improve, I don't like ai art at all.

[solid hare]

Oh that's nice!

[atomic comet]

I totally thought this week was the start. Didn't realize we have a whole other week to finalize manpower

[plain dew]

"Ive made 3 hell dives at age 20. What have you done for liberty? Join ODT school today! Will have you jumping in 3 months"

[solid hare]

I got some help and look at what got created

[pliant fjord]

(Firebreathers has one T)
(is this a request for ODT?)

That's straight up fire though

[solid hare]

Thanks, good point, not sure why what I used used two in that moment, it was using one T the entire time before

[tired trench]

Can't wait to start 🙂

[plain dew]

Are you signed up on the googledoc?

[solid hare]

Here's round 2 for you brother

[pliant fjord]

that's sick dude

[turbid kernel]

As a Salamanders player, I approve of all of this

[solid hare]

Thanks, though I admit there's a different decal that the firebreathers use for my custom chapter

I'm kindof flavoring them like a successor chapter to the black templar and by proxy the Imperial fists

[plain dew]

oh.... so should i not mention i play world eaters....

[turbid kernel]

That's dope. Nice pick

[solid hare]

You do you man, hoenstly I couldn't find a faction color set I liked so... Made my own

[plain dew]

ahah, honestly i picked themf or their gameplay

altho it completely changed with the new codex

i love how anywhere i go no tho, people know and play warhammer. Game has come a long way the last few years.

[solid hare]

I'm not against learning to play.

I'm honestly not sure where to start

[pliant fjord]

From what I understand, it's very similar to this game, just less logistics focused, and more unit-ability focused

[solid hare]

That's what I heard as well, more unit management, formations and strategem than anything else, like the ork's food of.. gork or something wherea giant foot comes down and stomps on units

[wintry pawn]

Good morning and salutations Atlas.

[pliant fjord]

Good Morrow

I don't suppose anyone's heard from Minimastermind or Canteloupe?

[turbid kernel]

Morning! I know I haven't but I've been away

[plain dew]

ahhh thats age of sigmar haha

its the new warhammer fantasy reboot

not to be confused with... actual fantasy... whihc is what totalwar: warhammer was based on...

[noble owl]

AOS is cool though. I started collecting some Stormcast because it’s cheap. I’ve got to get a paint scheme going

[wintry pawn]

Let's keep things on topic if possible.

[plain dew]

as for getting started from the game side, you have two options. the TTS (tabletop simulator) community for 40k is pretty popular now, so you could probably find some one willing to walk you thru how to play. Its recommened you start with smaller size games before going big. The other option is finding a Gameworkshop near you, they will have a demo table for you to try it out.

[slate palm]

Whaddup Atlas, I am enquiring around to join a Task Force. I have the req points (3) to make a Light Freighter (+1 or 2 equip). I am planning on playing a supportive role. Could that work for you guys? (I sent something similar to Victorum)

[plain dew]

But most GW are pretty pushy when it comes to sales so... just keep that in mind

[pliant fjord]

We've got 5 ships so far, and would be happy to add a 6th!

[wintry pawn]

What are you naming it?

[pliant fjord]

Check out our Doc for the general info, but feel free to ask any questions here

[wintry pawn]

A good ship needs a good name.

[pliant fjord]

Right now, we're "Picket Line" "Endurance" "TripleS" "Black Pearl" and "Pioneer"

[wintry pawn]

Might save up and get me a ship.

[turbid kernel]

I know I am!

[wintry pawn]

If I hadn't have bought the ODT I could have grabbed a decked out battleship.

I had the req from three campaigns.

[turbid kernel]

Any thoughts on how you imagine kitting it out?

[turbid kernel]

Nice! I keep flipping between a destroyer with scanning equipment or a naked battleship that I'll upgrade overtime

[tired patio]

While we could always use more ships. A light Freighter would be a perfect fit for Task Force Fluffle. They need ships that can go Speed 3 like your Light Freighter. The plan for them if I remember right is to transport Rabbit and get into some trouble.

[wintry pawn]

I suppose a destroyer with guns is better than a battleship with nothing lol.

[pliant fjord]

Evening Cap!

Here's what I got so far for rosters

[tired patio]

Evening!

[wintry pawn]

It'll be nice to finally have some good accommodations aboard the Endurance.

[turbid kernel]

The destroyer is not gonna have guns either lol. It'll be a shot caller using scanning equipment and comm intercept to allow combat ships and ground units to have an advantage in combat

[slate palm]

Joining them was my initial idea as well, but their plan is a bit too bold for my likings

[wintry pawn]

Sleeping in cargo bays is not my style.

[pliant fjord]

Well, if you like backline support, we're the TF for you

check out the "The Plan" tab

[wintry pawn]

I wish we could get missile jammers.

Nebulon B style.

[slate palm]

I am still unsure what upgrades I wanna take, but I like scanners, orbital repair, pods, bays, or decks.
I thinking either of 2 ways:

• Transport focused (pods, bays, decks)
• Backline support (repair, scanners)

[turbid kernel]

Oh yeah, electronic countermeasures would be dope!

[pliant fjord]

We're definitely flush on pods (we can drop 2 PAI, 2 LMs, and 2 ODTs at once)

But we were talking about getting a repair ship going

One ship with scanners, but none with Comms Intercept

[wintry pawn]

That's a lot of ass whooping potential.

[pliant fjord]

I miscounted it's 4 ODTs (but we only have 3)

Plus we can launch our entire air-fleet (5 fighters, 1 bomber, 3 hats) at the same time

[red brook]

Oh shack rq, victorum was trying to figure out how Repair kits are shared between ships? Is it like LS that its a shared pool for the TF or is it a supply that has to be shipped?

[turbid kernel]

Actually, with a mech bay on a light freighter we won't need a HVTOL to recover the mechs anymore.

[pliant fjord]

It's the Endurance that has the Mech Bays, though I'd imagine if we added another one we could easily find two more mech pilots

[turbid kernel]

Was that captain bought or crew bought? Maybe we can ask if the crew member would be willing to hop on the freighter?

[pliant fjord]

It's Ferdy, who came with a Flight Deck and Mech Bay.

Crew

[turbid kernel]

I think ferdy wanted to serve on the same orbital as another crew. I might be misremembering though.

[slate palm]

Heya Atlas, thanks for the hospitality and friendliness. I have decided to join Victorum in their escapades, perhaps I will join you guys in some future campaign. Till we see each other in the cold dark depths of space!

[turbid kernel]

Good luck out there!

[pliant fjord]

Godspeed, and good hunting!

[turbid kernel]

Well back to the drawing board lol

[pliant fjord]

all good, a repair ship makes more sense for the front line than us anyway

as long as he's happy and having fun

[turbid kernel]

Agreed, they seem to really like the idea and, honestly, that does seem like a cool idea lol

[solid hare]

Sounds good, might have to check it out

[pliant fjord]

Aha, found it, thanks! Would you confirm that you've bought these please? Happy to do the doc editing

[solid hare]

wooo ignite is on the tabletop!!

sorry just saw that

[ivory anvil]

hey thats my line...the lore behind my company is it use to be a pizza delivery company

[ivory anvil]

it would be nice to get the comms intercept could we get that put in our sheet for one thing we are looking for and actively recruit for it?

[ivory anvil]

only if the ship lands planet side which opens it up to fire from MBT and Mechs

[red brook]

and arty

[pliant fjord]

(Assuming minimaster is buying 2 Cargo slots)
There's only 1 CS left to be picked, and that's Canteloupe's.
We do have room for one more Fleet Crew unit (+2 CS).

So recruiting a Fleet Crew would be great!

[royal sequoia]

Morning Atlas 🙂 What did I miss? Seems like mostly nerding out about 40k x)

[pliant fjord]

40k and TTS lol

and a fine Midnight to you

[royal sequoia]

I saw what you made, it's really cool

[pliant fjord]

I dug through the server and found a message from Mini saying they were gonna buy 2 Cargo Bays

[royal sequoia]

I remember he said that yeah

[pliant fjord]

but it wasn't entered into the doc, or confirmed. I entered it in parenthesis for now

[royal sequoia]

makes sense

I think as opposed to rest of us nerds, he might have a life 🤔

[pliant fjord]

what's that, some kind of dessert? /s

but yea, good point, I'ma hop off for the night. Have a good one!

[royal sequoia]

Nighty night!

[turbid kernel]

The plan is to recover them after the fighting lol. Just to make us more independent from only deploying them on maps with an airfield

[solid hare]

looks like we got a pretty decent load out right now for Atlas, looking forward to the adventure

[royal sequoia]

We got a third PAI X)

At this point we can just hold a frontline on our own

[turbid kernel]

Agreed! I'm thinking of how I RP crew exactly. I'm thinking of acting as an Operations Officer in the CIC

[abstract thunder]

Do I have potential crew for when I get the BC?

[royal sequoia]

Nope!

[abstract thunder]

I will go harass main chat

[royal sequoia]

That's gonna be a challenge

I kinda already pulled all the friends I knew from my side

[turbid kernel]

We would have to examine and see what can be done. We even may split the TF

[solid hare]

'What kind of front line is this?'

'We are the front line!'

[royal sequoia]

Welcome aboard btw 🙂

[solid hare]

Thanks glad to be here!

[royal sequoia]

There's only two space marine companies I like, and Salamanders are definitely one of them

[solid hare]

They are a good company

Good policies for sure

[turbid kernel]

Hell yeah, love my Sallies

Okay going to bed now. Goodnight!

[solid hare]

Same, good night

[tired trench]

Ye

[royal sequoia]

Welcome aboard! I think we got two new fighters?

At this point, feel free to pick whatever ship you'd like to call your home

[ivory anvil]

Fighters-R-Us?

[royal sequoia]

That's an amazing task force name

[ivory anvil]

or more of Oprah of Fighters?

[royal sequoia]

A few carriers and 25 fighters :p

[tired trench]

Put me on any ship. I dont really mind which one.

[ivory anvil]

i mean we have 1 more slot of Triple

[royal sequoia]

Our pocket carrier with Thomas is looking quite empty right now

Maybe he could get his second fighter. On the Pioneer

[ivory anvil]

ya that would work

[royal sequoia]

I'm still hoping we get a second bomber

To get some more anti orbital capability

[ivory anvil]

fair tbh we have become the logi/air support TF

[royal sequoia]

Yup x)

Because noone else will

I think TF1 might as well if they're not busy with space battles

[ivory anvil]

TF 1 has a ligit carrier called the Aviary, based name tbh

[royal sequoia]

And I would more call it a heavy carrier :p they have seven decks

I wanted to name my ship something Ant related. But I didn't have ideas

[tired trench]

Put myself on the pioneer

[ivory anvil]

i only know about it because my buddy that invited me is their TACCOM

Once I get a ship next campagin im gonna name it "30 Min or Less"

[royal sequoia]

That's a great name

You can use 30 as the Callsign

[ivory anvil]

yep but i want that name because the lore behind my company is that it used to be a Pizza Company but started to lose money and thats why it joined ARMCO

[royal sequoia]

That's an interesting carrier reconversion choice

[ivory anvil]

?

[royal sequoia]

Can't sell pizza? Okay let's go kill robots

Carrier like carrier path

I think that's a word in English right?

[ivory anvil]

more of im so in the Red that i cant see anymore and someone said "here money can be made" so i said fuck it

[tired trench]

How do pizza workers turn into mercenary logistics?

[royal sequoia]

Makes sense to me

That's how the US works currently

[tired trench]

Thats fair

[ivory anvil]

hey you need to lift boxes to get the supplies for the pizza so what the difference between the pizza supplies and war supplies besides the name on the box

[royal sequoia]

And you get to see space, it's pretty cool

And fly in rust buckets that probably won't fall apart

[jagged pagoda]

Morning

[royal sequoia]

Morning

[unborn portal]

morning

time to perform security checks on the ship

[royal sequoia]

We're about to have 4 aerospace capable ships in a ship the size of your house. We're gonna need a lot of checks 😂

[jagged mulch]

Morning

[jagged pagoda]

Plenty for me to do around the fleet 😂

[unborn portal]

please keep your IDs attached to your chest at all times

[royal sequoia]

I'm worried about my new marines

[jagged pagoda]

o7

My ID is my wrench, because no one else in the TF has one xP

[royal sequoia]

We have a single wrench in the entire TF

[red brook]

We downsized to 5 when the change went through lol

[royal sequoia]

Ho you managed? I thought you couldn't get refunds on modules

[ivory anvil]

looks at warpit coffee is that way jarhead i have important things to do looks back to scanner and starts pressing buttons shoo shoo on your way and no i will not show you my ID the captain knows who i am

[signal stream]

Welcome aboard, I hope you enjoy your stay

[unborn portal]

Sir, it is mandatory to always wear your ID, clipped on to your chest

[alpine condor]

Good Morning Atlas, how’s the “recruiting” (see: shanghaiing) going?

[royal sequoia]

Sounds painful. Not everyone has the sufficient chest hair

[ivory anvil]

hey cap can we make the bridge a marine free space?

[royal sequoia]

Except in boarding situations maybe

I don't think our Marines know how to drive, so we should be good the rest of the time

[ivory anvil]

good because my ID has to be in the scanner for it to work....soooooo....i cant wear it

[royal sequoia]

Makes sense to me

[alpine condor]

Don’t forget to lock the art supplies door with marines on board

[unborn portal]

beeing banished from the bridge is a blow to morale

no blinking buttons all around you anymore

[ivory anvil]

i hear theres crayons in the fighters locker rooms

[royal sequoia]

Part of the crew part of the ship

[unborn portal]

what's the bridge like, do you only have screens or also a big window?

[royal sequoia]

No windows

[alpine condor]

Oh it’s very nice

[royal sequoia]

This is not Star wars

[alpine condor]

They have a fondue fountain

[royal sequoia]

We have a bar and pool (table)

[ivory anvil]

we took that out last week for the bar

[unborn portal]

there is a fuel fountain in the hangar bay

[alpine condor]

And an actual pool

[alpine condor]

The ship is actually one of those akula class submarines but retrofitted for space

[alpine condor]

Those are called fuel tanks warpit, you’re not supposed to puncture them like that

[royal sequoia]

We had to take it out to fit the third and fourth aerospaces sadly x) it was a very big pool

I think we'll need the marines on the bridge anyways, someone gotta shoot the gun

[alpine condor]

Yeah, I don’t get why the ship had a cetacean ops section anyways. I don’t even know what it means

[ivory anvil]

crabs or lobsters? because im alergic to crabs

[alpine condor]

No, that’s crustacean

[ivory anvil]

oh...i never finished high school...maybe thats why my business went under

[royal sequoia]

Noone knows what cetacean means

Don't let the fancy PAI talk you down

[alpine condor]

There were also these weird fish in there but we took them out, it was nice to supplement the diet of freeze dried, powdered, salted and canned foodstuffs

[royal sequoia]

We are entirely fed by Soupply

[alpine condor]

Specifically soup

And it’s all like shitty canned New England clam chowder

[royal sequoia]

T-T

[red brook]

No refund just stored the upgrades

[royal sequoia]

Ho I see. TF1 is the kind of rich TF with spare upgrades :p

[jagged pagoda]

At least it’s not English food

[alpine condor]

No, it’s new english food

[jagged pagoda]

Says the Englishman

[red brook]

We do got that battleship money lol

The real thing is it is unlikely for us to fill the slots we still have open let alone 4 more lol

We have 6/8 bombers in the entire deployment and 9/25 of the fighters and still have room for 2 more lol

[royal sequoia]

You have space for 25 fighters?!

Or did I misunderstand something

I'm jealous of your bomber count

You can annihilate any ship with that

[red brook]

We had 7 flight bays on aviary alone

Our other ships have 1 or 2 as well

We had 12 aero units before the rule change lol

[royal sequoia]

Wow

That is impressive

I guess since you're hovering with the main force, you can also do ground support if space is not contested

I'm glad to have such a strong main fleet though 🙂 space is our most important asset

[unborn portal]

we could upgrade to ID-chips transplanted under your skin and implement restricted door access

also, every crew member should wear at least a small gun

[gleaming jacinth]

Take note, this has been updated to the Ops Log and refined somewhat.

[royal sequoia]

Sadly we don't have an armory, we can't afford that. Space restrictions. Had to remove it to make space for moar planes :p

You're our only protection

[unborn portal]

that mean everyones stores their weapons in their own quarters

can I move between ships?

do we have shuttles?

[royal sequoia]

We have hats so I think it should be easy

[unborn portal]

I guess we have our own transport ships

[royal sequoia]

You can also take a hat down to the surface for ground operations if you'd like

[unborn portal]

only if necessary

or space is secure

[royal sequoia]

We hope so yeah. We're not made for fighting

[unborn portal]

we have fighters and bombers

[royal sequoia]

One bomber

And one autocanon

That's all our anti orbital capability

[unborn portal]

well, we are a logistic task force

[royal sequoia]

Yup

[unborn portal]

I guess you having a security crew is a luxury

[royal sequoia]

But we should be able to do a good job getting rid of fighters or bombers

[royal sequoia]

Well you also do crew tasks, which is sorely needed on the triple

We will be busy, just rearming our aircraft

[unborn portal]

I guess, the only repair crew we have is on the picket

[jagged pagoda]

I'll get to work making them :D

[jagged pagoda]

How many fighters do we have now?

5, damn

We've almost got a full squadron

[royal sequoia]

We have space for three more

[jagged pagoda]

:0

[maiden belfry]

yeah that doubling is fantastic, just gotta find em!

[jagged pagoda]

How much time do we have left until the campaign officially begins?

And do we have a solid plan yet?

[humble urchin]

About a week from now

[jagged pagoda]

Also, wouldn't @rapid sail have an additional CS to spend?

Because a fixed AC costs 1 CS

Nvm, not enough space on the Black Pearl XD

Sorry for ping 😅

[royal sequoia]

Smh

[royal sequoia]

The plan will depend on the information we get, but generally speaking, we can resupply anyone that needs it, so we should be heading to any strategic point in need. Additional, we can also one turn drop a significant amount of infantry, power armor and light mechs for frontline support. That scenario requires an airfield on location, but we can pick all our troops back up in one turn as well.

Our many clients for the large supply should be flying shovels to get their airbase going, Fluffle because they won't store much themselves, and ourselves because we need to keep planes refueled.

Afaik, noone else needs large supply, TF1 is self sufficient

[jagged pagoda]

Rightio

[abstract thunder]

Are you still the smallest carrier

[jagged pagoda]

I think so

One flight deck

Light Freighter.

[signal stream]

The 'Treecat' in task force 3 is also a light freighter with 1 flight deck, so I guess we are both are the smallest carriers (Until someone puts 2 flight decks on a Light Freighter)

[royal sequoia]

That would be genius

[jagged pagoda]

Also the total number of people in the doc was incorrectly calculated. It said we had 54, rather than 34 XD

[abstract thunder]

I was gonna say that seems like a lot

[jagged mulch]

Clearly we just need a swarm of light freighters with two flights decks each

4 aerospace per freighter

[jagged pagoda]

35**

[humble urchin]

34 ? 35 ?

I'm gonna go count manually hold up you guys xD

[jagged pagoda]

35, I subtracted without being inclusive XD

A2:A36 = 35 people including A36, but excluding A1 :p

[jagged mulch]

It is 35

[humble urchin]

I got 35

I see Shack's in your sign-up too actually ?!

[jagged pagoda]

Someone set it to count all text-boxes from A2:A99, which included a bunch of stuff that isn't crew ;p

[jagged pagoda]

Yes, as is his cruiser the Endurance

[humble urchin]

Damn, very nice

[jagged pagoda]

For sheer number of ships, we're the biggest ^^

But TF1 still has so many huge ships XD

[royal sequoia]

I think we could give carrying pathfinder a thought. Once we know if we're getting another battle cruiser tomorrow.

[humble urchin]

Well, now that you mention it, we did maybe want to get carried with Iron Hammer ?

When I say maybe, it's because Vivian proposed it, and I was like "maybe wait until we're 15 ?", but since we're 12 now...

[royal sequoia]

In terms of large supply, at 15 person squad is doable

[humble urchin]

Something to pounder so far I guess ?

[royal sequoia]

It's an option as eell

[humble urchin]

Tho I have absolutely no idea "how2getorbitalcarried", just throwing an idea here while you guys are wondering "who do we carry now" 👀

[royal sequoia]

What is your plan?

And can you all be airdropped?

[jagged pagoda]

They have Vivian, so they can't all be drop podded.

But they should be able to be HAT'd

[signal stream]

They have a MBT and a IFV which means we would need an airfield to transport those

[humble urchin]

OG plan was to get NPC carried on turn 2 on Elim City, then go through L-H to Crossroads.

Basically, "get crossroads"

[jagged pagoda]

Right, so we'd either have to drop them off at Elim starport, or Crossroads

[humble urchin]

And from there on we'll figure it out.

[humble urchin]

Confirm, MBT here, heya 👋

[jagged pagoda]

I believe our plan is to get Flying Shovels to Crossroads, so we could drop you in with our ODTs n' such

[humble urchin]

Ay we got one ODT now that you mention it too.

[royal sequoia]

Hmm

[humble urchin]

He didn't plan to orbital drop which is why he joined, but I guess that can happen if we do get orbital transport ?

I do enquire seeing with @summer timber for deployment with them maybe aswell if our MBT & IFV is too troublesome ?

[royal sequoia]

The point of taskforce transport in this game is to bring people early to the fight

[humble urchin]

As nice as getting an orbital transport would be, they're the recon guys and don't have any armor to carry I think which would make transporting them easier.

[royal sequoia]

If we're stuck to an airfield to deploy there's not much point

[humble urchin]

Yes I know, I'm advocating for them too, but that's because WE'RE UNITED BY LACK OF MANPOWER BABYYYYYYYYYY
And also because I did plan on originally deploying without orbitals anyways so 👀

[humble urchin]

Hm true 🤔

[royal sequoia]

It was just an idea anyways, so far we only have the large supply to supply ourselves and a couple other things. But might have some more coming, which would make it worth it to transport a group early.

And avoid the traffic jam that will be Elim

[humble urchin]

meep meep

Mine is an idea aswell so 👀

[jagged pagoda]

All we have is ideas for now

[humble urchin]

yup.

[turbid kernel]

Good morning everyone! Let's hope we recruit someone who can free us from having to use airfields so much

[royal sequoia]

Morning

I think that ship has sailed though :p we could get ourselves like 3 VTOL bays and pray to find two hvtols that Storm didn't already poach

[jagged pagoda]

Who would that be?

[turbid kernel]

No one in particular lol just need a HVTOL or freighter willing to take on a mech bay

[jagged pagoda]

Fair enough XD

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, most likely unfortunately lol. But we'll see

[jagged pagoda]

We've still got a week-ish

[cerulean coral]

are HVTOLS an upgrade that you have to buy?

[jagged mulch]

Yes

[hot haven]

i am creating my unit rn ;)

[plain dew]

Good morning!

[hot haven]

or what sort of units would fit into your ship?

[jagged mulch]

I would recommend going with the unit you want to go with

[humble urchin]

PLAY WHAT YOU WANT

Sorry for hopping in, but yeah play what you want to play Milchi :)

[royal sequoia]

You can pick whatever you'd like. My personal preference would be getting another bomber, but it's ultimately your choice

[hot haven]

good thing i just hit create bomber xD

[royal sequoia]

(if I manage to get him on my ship, I'll have jesus, milk, pizza, life will be good)

Amazing 😍

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, who needs more than Jesus, milk and pizza?

[cerulean coral]

more bombers

[jagged mulch]

I suppose you could always add banana to the pizza

[humble urchin]

Cats.

[jagged mulch]

Eh

I'm more of a fan of dogs

[royal sequoia]

I also have a banana true! And a commoner.

Life is good on the Triple

[cerulean coral]

smh, did you forget me

[royal sequoia]

For a short time

[plain dew]

he doesntlove you anymore banana

[cerulean coral]

he never did 🥲

[plain dew]

tragic

[royal sequoia]

Don't say that

[hot haven]

Bombers call sign: MLK (no, not THE MLK) is joinging ship now

[plain dew]

at least its a better love story than twilight

[royal sequoia]

Welcome aboard 🙂 with that I think I can safely call the Triple fully crewed

You can simply add your to the docs, both in the sign-up sheet and the crew, and you're good to go

[plain dew]

oh i remember reading somewhere, did those stealth vtol/spec ops teams get deployed for more intel?

[royal sequoia]

I think they will be yeah

[plain dew]

And when are they heading out?

Will it be before campaign start or r1?

[royal sequoia]

I haven't seen any further info. Either it's a secret thing or I didn't look hard enough

[humble urchin]

Only shack knows.

[royal sequoia]

But it should be before campaign start

[plain dew]

okay cool, probably will get a mission update/mid round events then in the next few days

[royal sequoia]

Would you guys be ok if I offer to Fluffle the ability to resupply with us? Hoping they'll have enough people for their own task force, they'll probably need a supply source, since they can't store much themselves

[cerulean coral]

simm, should i add Milch to the deployable assets list in the Player Crew Actions tab?

[royal sequoia]

That is not my tab. I think Ixen is managing that.

[cerulean coral]

@pliant fjord do you want me to add our new bomber to one of the open air slots in the Player Crew Actions tab?

[plain dew]

how bad is it if we run out :3

[plain dew]

i think the current calc shows fluffle in there, and we run out at turn 11. without fluffle in there we run out after turn 13

theres probably a way we can get some supplies from the otters, but i wouldnt wanna rely on that.

[cerulean coral]

i think we are then not able to do much if anything at all for the rest of the campaign or until we aquire more

[royal sequoia]

Yup, I did that 😄

[topaz rivet]

Does that include the Tuesday BC?

[royal sequoia]

If we run out, we can no longer reload and rearm and repair

[royal sequoia]

It includes neither the Tuesday BC nor the extra slots we still have open

So these are relatively conservative estimates

[plain dew]

whats a tuesday BC?

[royal sequoia]

Even without the Tuesday BC, we can probably go up to 13 supply relatively reliably

[topaz rivet]

Now I really want that BC to be called Tuesday.

[plain dew]

Is that another ship from fluffle?

[royal sequoia]

That would be an amazing name

[royal sequoia]

Nick is a veteran that just created a company with the bot, and back pay is on Tuesdays. So tomorrow he'll get enough cash to buy a BC

And offered to join us

[plain dew]

got it, so its the Tuesday BC

🤣

[turbid kernel]

We're also gonna have to find a way to crew it lol

[plain dew]

I think we got the folks for it, will just have unused dock/CS space

[topaz rivet]

We did last time I looked

[jolly crypt]

we have jesus on the ship? oh so thats how the bar gets its wine supply

[jagged pagoda]

You should've made your callsign "MILK" XD

[plain dew]

hmm... i am not sure about past campaigns, but how much does the enviorment have an effect on the game?

I just saw someone mention this planet is going thru an iceage... if enviromental stuff affects our forces, that might be something we need to plan for

specifically thinking of things like "this area has a blizzard, double supply cost this turn"... stuff like that.

[royal sequoia]

That is a very good point. I doubt there'll be things that increase supply consumption, but on Lussan at least, there were flash floods that took away any units staying in floodable areas

Like, outright killing them

We probably shouldn't launch our fighters if there's a blizzard warning

But our fleet will stay in orbit, so weather shouldn't affect us too much

(please no solar storm X)

[plain dew]

will be good, but the boots might not be

and if we are supplying the boots...

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, it might be map dependent too. So we might not know until we're there or Shack announces it in Mid round Events

[jagged pagoda]

I mean... That would utterly remove the toaster threat as well XD

[plain dew]

welp, something to keep in mind i guess.

[jagged pagoda]

Planetwide EMP

Unless the bots are all EMP shielded 🤔

[topaz rivet]

If it’s bad enough to hit our orbitals it should hit them, too

[jagged pagoda]

But I doubt the GMs would do that to us, cause then all our Orbitals would crash into the planet 😅

[jagged pagoda]

Agreed

We'd be stuck until the Feds or Syndis arrived

And we'd have to spend a ridiculous amount of our Reqs to rebuild the fleets

[topaz rivet]

Great, now I’m trying to figure out the orbital mechanics of staying stationary over a location without being in geosynchronous orbit (because that’s too far or too close)

[jagged pagoda]

All you'd need is thrusters to match your speed to your target, and then thrusters to keep you in stable altitude, whilst also remaining in place.

They'd need a lot of thrust to slow you down to stop in a certain altitude range, but after that, it'd be really easy as you'd just have to counter the planet's gravity.

Unless we have some form of anti-grav tech XD

I wonder if we've got artificial gravity on our orbitals or not 🤔

[royal sequoia]

I think so

[jagged pagoda]

Would make the most sense, considering the fact that our aircraft need to be hoisted upwards off the flight deck to store two per deck.

Among other things

[pliant fjord]

I made the same mistake, no biggie

[pliant fjord]

This gels with both plan A and B for us. Plan is to get crossroads for an airfield, but we'll stop at Elim and use the starport if the enemy has too many orbitals.

[pliant fjord]

They've left already I believe, but we won't know what they learned for another day or three

[pliant fjord]

Use the crewing tab for now, that one is getting edited last.

[plain dew]

great, cant wait for the intel

anything else we should prepare for? Do we need to state we are bringing extra blankets?

[pliant fjord]

If you signed up for a ship on the crewing tab, and you're watching the midround events chat, you're good to go!

[plain dew]

haha, i meant this in line with my iceage comments, since in the past there was enviormental conditions to consider.

[pliant fjord]

lol, was in "answer all questions fast" mode

[plain dew]

be careful, you might get recruited by fluffle

[pliant fjord]

Good Morning Atlas!

Did I hear Iron Hammer BG12 was requesting requesting us to carry them? Their plan lines up with ours pretty well.
Checking out their sign-up sheet, it'd take 3 LS to carry them, and we have the ability to deploy almost everything they have, even without an airfield.

[royal sequoia]

We need an airfield to deploy them, they have a MBT

[pliant fjord]

The MBT and IFV are the only things that would need the airfield

[royal sequoia]

If we can't deploy even a small part of it, we can't deploy any of it sadly

But well, I think it's the same for each battlegroup, pathfinders who I also wanted to carry also have ifvs

[pliant fjord]

can we not dock at Elim to deploy?

which was plan B anyway.
And plan A was to force down an airfield in one turn

[plain dew]

yea, we can just drop them at elim, since any orbital can land at a starport

[topaz rivet]

Then there doesn’t seem to be much point in us spending the LS to carry them

[pliant fjord]

good point

[plain dew]

its timing

NPC frigates wont show up until 1 week after

so its trading LS to have units active earlier

[topaz rivet]

Can IFVs and MBTs only be deployed in the field by HATs at an airfield?

[plain dew]

I think its one week... maybe NPC frigates wont show up until starport is secured.. which i guess could be really fast

[pliant fjord]

Or a Freighter with a vehicle bay

[topaz rivet]

Oh right

[tropic solar]

HVTOL is another alternative

[royal sequoia]

Or a heavy vtol

Damn, too slow

[topaz rivet]

Okay. So there are options we (and presumably the other TFs) just don’t have them

[pliant fjord]

we're still waiting on the hypothetical orbital from the guy getting backpay right?

[royal sequoia]

I think a HVTOL is the optimal option. It's also the hardest to come by

[royal sequoia]

The Tuesday BC yeah 👍

[tropic solar]

Only 6 have signed up too

[royal sequoia]

Apart from the MBT, we could deploy all of Iron Hammer

Sadge

[plain dew]

but beacuse of MBT... cant 😭

[royal sequoia]

If we plop them with shovels in crossroads

Shovels have a hvtol

Turn 1 take the large supply for the airfield

Turn 2 unload the mbt

[pliant fjord]

That was my assessment

We don't have instantaneous deployment of the two vehicles, but we're pretty damn close

and we won't need to recover them

[royal sequoia]

Ah damn they also have an ifv

Didn't see that

[plain dew]

if we are doing that, why not just turn 1 secure/land at starport then.

[pliant fjord]

That's plan B

[royal sequoia]

I think that would save them at least one or two turns

Going directly to crossroads if the star port is free

[pliant fjord]

they'd be driving/walking there anyway

[plain dew]

what if crossroads isnt open tho?

and we get there an there is resistence?

[royal sequoia]

Depends on how occupied it is

[pliant fjord]

Then we dock at Elim

[royal sequoia]

A little ground resistance we can deal with

A lotta ground resistance or a fleet in orbit, we run away

[pliant fjord]

A Light Freighter concept I wish I knew existed:
Flight Deck, Vehicle Bay.

Serves as a mobile Airfield solely for the deployment of those pesky heavy vehicles.

[topaz rivet]

Depending on where the spaceport is located inside Elim, even a very late landing at Crossroads could be faster than deploying at the space port

[pliant fjord]

That's why Crossroads is plan A

for sure

[plain dew]

fair enough

I have no hopes in plan A tho 🤣 id be shocked if we reach elim without some fighting first

But in ideal conditions, i agree that crossroads deployment T1 is the best.

[pliant fjord]

definitely best case scenario

[royal sequoia]

Yup

I'm glad we're all in agreement

@pliant fjord is that ok for you if offer to Fluffle to keep them supplied? We can afford it right now

[pliant fjord]

Yea, assuming they're coming to us as needed instead of the other way around

[royal sequoia]

Yeah I would hope so X)

[pliant fjord]

We might need "Grey Mode" turns, where we aren't supplied, but we don't have a ton of things that need to be reloaded/repaired every turn

it's the fighters and bombers that will need it the most

one ammo, easily damaged

[plain dew]

Our route is Nav field 1 -> Elim -> crossroads right?

[pliant fjord]

Turn 1: Nav field1 -> Elim (behind TF1)
Turn 2: Elim -> Crossroads (assuming good conditions)

[plain dew]

Also we aer speed 2 no? How we getting to crossroads in T1?

oh okay

[pliant fjord]

At the end of Turn 1, we'll know the conditions well

[plain dew]

For sure

Hmmm

how far behind is behind?

This was a discussion we had in rabbit/TF3

[pliant fjord]

on the same tactical map

like an engineer standing behind an MBT to keep it repaired

[plain dew]

if we are going to Elim, and we are with BG3/storm... It might make sense for our fighters to be running infront of the VTOL blob

[pliant fjord]

100%

[royal sequoia]

Definitely

[plain dew]

if our fighters and TF1 fighters all run evasion, we can reliably eat alot of AA without anyone going down

but its obviously risky to the fighters

[royal sequoia]

Alternatively, if the bot fleets are not directly threatening, we could run to crossroads immediately

[pliant fjord]

I'm assuming our combat aerospace units are deployed at all times and following the fleet unless they need to dock for repairs/reload

[royal sequoia]

Ignore tf1

Is the plan to feed ls to tf1 to go faster still a thing?

I didn't take that into account for the supply calculations actually

[pliant fjord]

yes, but they may or may not be eating that themselves

we can always shift our supplies around later in the campaign as needed

[royal sequoia]

True

[topaz rivet]

And in Case Gold we just book it to Ziyal?

[pliant fjord]

I think we'd still want to set-up the airfield at Crossroads, since there could be enemy forces at the mines

[royal sequoia]

Case Gold we just have a little party to start off

[plain dew]

I guess my question would be more around the positioning. In my mind my priorities are: Protect TF 2 first, protect the other big ships/vtols, engage ground targets. But in the T1 Elim, our fighters wouldnt be directly protecting TF2, so if anything slipped past TF1/VTOL screen... could be problematic.

[royal sequoia]

I have a gun!

It goes piou piou

[pliant fjord]

C'est Francais pour "pew pew"? I love onomatopoeias.

[humble urchin]

Yep.

[pliant fjord]

One of the nice things about this massive player base, is you can have your unit do whatever you want. We can plan positioning all day, but I think in the end, if you want to do escort, you can do that, if you want to be in the thick of it, you can do that too.

It should balance out ok, and we'll know a hell of a lot more at the end of turn 0 when we breach the gate

[plain dew]

yea, im just bored at work, trying to think of random alternatives 😂 "what if .... What if...."