Task Force 2 - Atlas: Comms

[turbid kernel]

Yes my bad

[shadow sigil]

All good

Just wanted to double check since our captains (3/4) are perfectly okay using your stuff.

[wary creek]

I haven't heard who we are riding with or if we even have one.

[red brook]

Hey yall, we do appreciate th LS trade offer. Most likely we will take you up on it but I personally think it is more important for yall to determine a BG small enough for you to deploy before we reach the system due to the speed difference you guys will exit the gate before we do.

So imo don't reserve an LS for us. We can/will burn one to help storm reach the AO if it makes tactical sense to do so to back up whatever BG you guys drop

[merry summit]

Were we planning on dropping any BGs? Thought we were just doing LS drops to keep people running

[river vector]

Sorry butting in as someone outside the Tf but I personally think we need the LS to keep people supplied more then deploying a BG early we have kinda limited supply

[turbid kernel]

I did mention that even transporting one of the smaller BGs will eat the majority of our LS.

[merry summit]

I could see something like dropping a mini flying shovels type force to quick build an airfield in a safe location but that’s pretty much it. As it is the BGs are just too big to warrant using more of our remaining LS

[red brook]

with 10 LS you could do a 25 unit BG with only half of your LS. I know its a lot but I thought you guys were focusing on deplyoment. With your speed you'd get to the planet a turn before us even if we burn an LS to go fast. I just think even a 25 man BG drop to help ensure a good drop for Storm would be worth it is all

[pliant fjord]

We don't want to rush to the planet before TF1, we're barely armed. A total of one AC and one HMG, two light freighters that can be one-shot by bad luck. The main reason we want to supply you is so that there are guns and armor at the drop zones as soon as possible.

[merry summit]

How much LS do we have as a whole that’s not marked for deployment costs anyhow?

Or for that airfield

[pliant fjord]

10 right now. 1 for speed, 1 or 2 for the airfield, then the rest to supply all operations across the map. We're bringing the supply so not everyone else has to.

[red brook]

I get that, the issue is we are slow. You guys are fast. and will be through the gate first due to speed. We are committed to burning an LS to move faster for storms deployment, but if the situation is ok for you guys to drop a BG before us it'd help make the operation feel safer.

TBC I am not asking you guys to commit to anything because, I know we don't want to commit to anything yet either with ~9 days til lock in and no further intel yet

I just want yall to think about maybe transporting a small Spec ops BG to help with securing a starport for the other BGs to come in

[pliant fjord]

It's unlikely we'll be bringing a BG, the only one we're close to being able to carry is Flying Shovels, and they're flying themselves on HATs from the gate.

[red brook]

That sounds like actual suicide

[merry summit]

That’s the idea. Best survival rate is the suicide missions so far

[red brook]

HATs need an airfield

why aren't they waiting for a starport?

[merry summit]

They’re paradropping in and then building their own lol

[red brook]

Like at least storm is on vtols

[pliant fjord]

Which is why plan A is we all move, together, to Elim, then assess the safety of crossroads.
Plan A part 2 is set up an airfield at crossroads.
Plan B (if crossroads is too hot) we assist with capturing the Starport at Elim.

[turbid kernel]

We understand but that leaves 5 LS which would supply a single airfield for 10 rounds. However, we will like have 2 air fields, and most likely a FOB, that ends up with us running out of supply by round 4. Getting a single BG there a little quicker just doesn't seem worth it. Obviously, nothing is set in stone and will change as we get Intel.

[red brook]

Respectfully, I think clearing a starport so 80% of the units can land is more important than crossroads

[red brook]

I understand that, its just that you all have the most DC of the TFs currently which is why I ask

[merry summit]

Gonna have to take that bit up with shovels

[red brook]

Fair, anyway

[pliant fjord]

It's fast deploy, then fast recovery from the airfield we build, then we can reinforce elsewhere. We're mobile support and logistics.

[red brook]

you guys want to wait to come out the gate with us is your current feelings correct

[pliant fjord]

Or speed you up enough so that we all reach Elim at the same time, yea.

It makes more sense to keep the TFs together until we know what space assets the enemy has.

[red brook]

cool, I just want to be on the same page at least

overall the situation sounds like victorum willl be the spearhead into the system

[pliant fjord]

You've got the big guns

[red brook]

the goal will be to ensure our TF is fast enough to be said spearhead

[pliant fjord]

I do agree that "airfield at crossroads" is less likely without really good luck, but if the stars align, it's the perfect spot to keep our ground forces supplied to take back the planet.

If we have to stay longer at Elim while we duke it out in space, that's fine, we can drop our DC in to help with the assault on the spaceport, and keep your guns armed.

Our ships do Yoga, we're flexible.

[ivory anvil]

hey im new i want to make an orbi crew what do yall need?

[signal stream]

I think we need another 'Flight Deck'

[atomic comet]

shmo is getting his stuff in the sheet now on Endurance

[loud mulch]

How y'all doin' in here?

[signal stream]

I think we're doing good, just need to finish filling all of our orbital with equipment

[turbid kernel]

A scanner and a flight deck were in our wish list but remember that whatever upgrades you pick you're stuck with. You may just want to pick what you want and find a task force that needs that

[atomic comet]

shmo couldn't find a scanner so ended up getting an HMG

and a VTOL bay

[red brook]

The sheet doesn't indicate that

oh wait, found it

so you still need a flight deck right?

[signal stream]

Yeah, we have 6 air assets (3 Hats, 2 fighter, 1 bomber) and only 5 flight decks

[ivory anvil]

if yall will have me i have a unit with flight deck and scanner system

[pliant fjord]

Beautiful. They'd probably love on on the TripleS, with captain Simm, they've been looking for another flight deck and crew.

Just punch your info into the pinned doc, and you're set

@royal sequoia see above, new crew!

[ivory anvil]

you just want me to put my info in the sign up sheet area?

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, but there should also be a tab that has tables with the ships names (Endurance, Triple S, Picket Line, Black Pearl) add your name to the Triple S table

[ivory anvil]

done and done

[jolly crypt]

welcome aboard the triple S!

[jagged mulch]

Welcome aboard the task force!

[ivory anvil]

thank you

[royal sequoia]

Glad to have you on board! 🙂

[jagged mulch]

Also, probably important to tell you @twin cypress, we have room for your VTOL now!

[royal sequoia]

Important note, on the TripleS, we take decisions together. Even though I'm captaining, my voice is not more important than anyone else's. And we have a bar and pool (table) :p

It seems you guys found a lot of crew overnight. But we've yet to fgure out the PL situation

[jagged mulch]

What does PL stand for again?

[royal sequoia]

Picket Line

you don't cross the picket line

[jagged mulch]

Ah

Right

Well we've got mini and cantaloupe who both have yet to choose their equipment, so that's 4 of the slots filled

[royal sequoia]

the pioneer can take the PL's fighter btw

[jagged mulch]

So ideally we'd just want to see if we can get one more crew

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, probably a good idea to move the fighter to the pioneer and keep the hats with the picket line

[turbid kernel]

Sorry about to go to bed. I wonder if Ixen can fill you all on the details about a possible option to use one of our LS to possibly allow TF1 to get to Elim in a single turn and support Storm in taking Elim City

[royal sequoia]

@plain dew You're our second fighter right? 🙂 Would you be fine switching from the Picket Line to the Pioneer? It's one of our own light freighter decked out as a mini mini aircraft carrier :p

[royal sequoia]

I already read everything 🙂

[pliant fjord]

Am also in bed, but that about covers it.

[royal sequoia]

Have a good night guys! Good work today

[jagged mulch]

Goodnight to the two of you!

[royal sequoia]

I can take it from here for a little while, I'm sure there won't be too much activity

[turbid kernel]

Fantastic! We didn't want to speak for anyone. Night! See you in a few hours lol

[loud mulch]

@river vector

[pliant fjord]

Yea, some badassery all around. Let's go save some fuzzie wuzzies.

[jagged mulch]

Indeed

[royal sequoia]

actually cap mentionned they had 2 req lying around to buy modules

[jagged pagoda]

Morning, what’s been happening?

[royal sequoia]

so if we don't find another crew within the next 7 days (seems unlikely), we could move shmo back to the PL, which would mike it fully crewed, and have cap fill in his last two upgrades himself

New crew!

We have a vtol bay now

[ivory anvil]

wait so i can get drunk off duty 🤣

[royal sequoia]

We call this "team building"

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, you're in the Navy now

[turbid kernel]

And a scanner! Okay sleeping for real lol

[royal sequoia]

the scanner is amazing

I hope someone will have fun with it

[jagged pagoda]

Nice :D

[ivory anvil]

hehe beep boop beep beep "hey um ground pounder peoples theres someone right there-ish"

[royal sequoia]

we have three heavy drop pod systems 😂

[jagged mulch]

Could be a good idea, especially if it means getting second drop pods so we can just drop all our stuff at once

[royal sequoia]

Puts his finger full of pizza fat on the map

why do we have three heavy drop pod systems 😂

[jagged mulch]

I mean, why not try to drop everything in a single turn? :p

[royal sequoia]

sure

[jagged pagoda]

Exactly

[royal sequoia]

just one more regular drop pod and we're good to go

could even poach another odt

actually, with our vtol, we can technically even pick up a little more now

wasn't there a heavy vtol looking for a home earlier?

[jagged mulch]

Yes actually

Not sure if they found it already though

[royal sequoia]

Is the unassigned player list up to date?

[ivory anvil]

hey hey we gave up pizza delivery last year before we signed on

[jagged mulch]

I believe so?

[royal sequoia]

so we have six slots left, and already all the flight decks we want/need, and generally all the things

so that's potentially a lot more cargo

[pliant fjord]

Yea, though we can assume AJ will go with the other Mech

[royal sequoia]

weren't you in bed? :p

[pliant fjord]

Yea, just finished the last sudoku.

[royal sequoia]

ha

fun times

[merry summit]

comms intercept might be nice. or another scanner to get even more fog revealed

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, I think the last two things we need wanted were second drop pods and a Comms intercept

And then we can probably fill the rest with cargo

Which would get us two 13 LS

[signal stream]

Just a heads up but callsign 'Melon' (AConspicuousCantaloupe) has a Drop Pod System (They haven't chosen their other free upgrade by the look of it or activated their unit).

Also I went through and added equipment / upgrades on the 'sign up sheet' tab so it would be easier to figure out who has what (I didn't do the captains because we all know what they have due to the crewing sheet)

[plain dew]

but... the booze promised to me 😭 only if the HAT gives me a share (the answer is ayes, ill go anywhere, im flexible)

[jagged mulch]

Good to know

[signal stream]

I have a whole room aboard the Pioneer designated as a bar, ignore the fact that it's tiny and was originally a spare sleeping quarters

[jagged pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-cooper-bbt-sleep-i-dont-need-sleep-gif-5115394

[royal sequoia]

that is great, thanks!

[signal stream]

It's just the benefit of being the captain and only crewmember on the pioneer, I get to decide what goes where

[royal sequoia]

Alone captain gets a lot of leeway

[jagged mulch]

So we could either have cantaloupe on the picket line and split our odt between the picket line and endurance, or have shmo move over to the picket line and put all our drops pods on the same ships

[royal sequoia]

I don't think it's that important luckily

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[royal sequoia]

what's important is that I still have 0 marines x)

any boarding and I'm fucked x)

[signal stream]

I know what you mean

[jagged mulch]

Could always ask noble if they can protect your ship from boarding

[signal stream]

It's just going to be me and a fighter pilot who will barely be on board

[royal sequoia]

the pioneer and the pearl would remain ungarrisoned though

[signal stream]

Yeah, what's the worst that could happen

[royal sequoia]

A single solider lands on your ship

you're captured

we cry

[river vector]

Do you guys still have crew slots open? Got a friend joining who might have an interest

[signal stream]

It would be a funny way to go

[river vector]

He’s having issues with the bot so he’s borrowing my account to ask some questions

[royal sequoia]

we have

crew slots open:!

a single one to be precise

any question welcome

[plain dew]

sorry im in an out playing another game, but yea, i generally sign up to play with the group, so what ever works best for the task force, im cool with joining. Will all be in the same strategic area anyways

[signal stream]

Well welcome to the crew of the Pioneer

[royal sequoia]

you know when I first went into this campaign, I wanted to continue playing my engies, helping fortify a location

and somehow, this has devolved to being a part of the only supply fleet x)

[jagged pagoda]

An integral part!

[royal sequoia]

my ship brings litteraly nothing to the supply part :p I'm just an escort destroyer

[jagged pagoda]

You are the integral part I was talking about :p

[royal sequoia]

aww

thanks 🙂

[ember python]

should i be putting myself on the Endurance in the spreadsheet. i just dom't wanna mess up anyone's organization

[royal sequoia]

Yup! If that's ok for you of course!

[ember python]

absolutely. The PL was a wonderful host, but I'm sure the Endurance crew will treat me right too.

[light crescent]

Ok I read everything now.
How fast are HATs and VTOLs in space? Flying Shovels might transport themselves but that's no use if they are at speed 1

[red brook]

They use their normal speed

[royal sequoia]

so they're incredibly fast

[red brook]

moving between strat points is based on your BG/TFs slowest unit

[royal sequoia]

even a vtol is speed 5, compared to our puny speed 2

[red brook]

Thats why if victorum gets bogged down Storm is going to just book it to the planet

[light crescent]

Ok amazing!

[ember python]

good to know

[royal sequoia]

also mini, pick your upgrades :p

it's time

[ember python]

what are you debating between, if you don't mind my nosiness

[royal sequoia]

aaaand he left again

our greatest captain will never pick his upgrades

[cerulean coral]

Good mornint

What did I miss

[royal sequoia]

the triples is fully crewed

we have pizza delivery now

[cerulean coral]

Let's go

[light crescent]

I'll just take whatever is on the "equipment we want" list. So 2 Cargo bays it seems

[royal sequoia]

that is very nice of you. You could also buy yourself a small gun for point defense. The enemies shouldn't cross the picket line either

Once we have finally Large supply count, we can finally start considering if we want to transport a battlegroup

hmm, battlegroup pathfinder is looking interesting. I don't know how they want to stealth, but they're meant as a stealth recon force

and they're small

[plain dew]

they need 15 to be a BG

[royal sequoia]

but 15 would almost be reasonable for us to take

[plain dew]

unless the game starts, and theres an exception made, cause they cant fit anywhere else

[royal sequoia]

quick recon seems like a worthy endeavour

I hope there's an exception made for them

you can't make big recon groups

it's counter productive x)

[plain dew]

haha, not wrong

ive been taking some notes, in the event there is a "feedback" form at the end of the campaign.

[tiny rover]

I think they may be going with the Joseph joestar brand of stealth

https://tenor.com/view/nigerundayo-joseph-joestar-jojo-run-anime-gif-22126748

They really need more transports

[royal sequoia]

Sadly, anything bigger than 15-20 is probably too expensive for us to transport

even with our upgrade Ls capability

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

Rather unfortunate that transporting BGs is so costly

[atomic comet]

Do we have any campaign veterans who can comment on how much LS were in previous campaigns or how many turns they've lasted? I don't know how much is a lot or a little

[royal sequoia]

the supply mechanic in it's current form wasn't in any of the big campaigns I was in sadly

all I can tell you is that the longest campaign lasted 11 turns so far

so we should plan to keep ourselves supplied for like, 12?

[atomic comet]

That's good to know. So one LS every two turns means 6 LS would likely power a TF through the whole campaign

[royal sequoia]

yes

and the airfield takes one large supply per two turns?

[plain dew]

4

cause they are building a logistics center or something that increases how long a LS last for them

(or so i saw in the shovels chat a few days ago)

[atomic comet]

HQ’s / Airfields / Orbital Taskforces can be marked as Supplied for 2 rounds when a Large Supply is used.

from the rules doc

but if they have a thing that modifies it, all the better

[tiny rover]

That's why I'm sticking to LVs 🙏

[plain dew]

yea they got some supped up engineers

[royal sequoia]

hoo large supply depot?

[plain dew]

yea that one

[royal sequoia]

engineers are so cool

but they only get one of those, as far I can see

[plain dew]

someone said 4 🤔 i only see 3, but who knows

[atomic comet]

I see now what people were saying about battlegroup sizes. We'd need to burn 6 LS to be able to have transport capability for two or three of the BGs, but half of them are just way too big. You'd need 9 or ten bays to carry the biggest

[plain dew]

mightg be a legacy upgrade lol

[royal sequoia]

the base starts with three turns of supply by default though

[plain dew]

well there it is then

lol

[royal sequoia]

So that's 4 turns, and then 3, 3

[plain dew]

3 + 1 = 4

big maths

[royal sequoia]

amazing

so the airbase would need 3-4 large supply from us

plus 6 for our own uses

that makes 10 x)

we have

10

and 6 free slots

[ivory anvil]

there like 400 people that have companies, and less then 100 seem to be orbis

[royal sequoia]

yeah for now there's extremely few orbitals

I have to say, I like our new spreadsheet

props to vivian 🙂

I find it a lot more readable

[atomic comet]

yeah it is much better for our use

[plain dew]

this is the first major game with orbitals

[royal sequoia]

oh btw, your friend shmo needs to decide which way his hmg should be pointing

nah, lussan also had a ton of orbitals

but they had a very different use to now

[ivory anvil]

outwards preferably 🤣

[plain dew]

and there were fools like me who when i first signed up went "oh wow fighter looks cool" and then didnt get into any of the smaller games for the las like 10 months 🤣

instead of picking something versatile like.. infantry lol

[royal sequoia]

smaller games you had to be lucky to get in anyways

I tried each one, never got lucky :p

pick engies, everyone wants engies

[ivory anvil]

engies are nice

[atomic comet]

I tried to go as useful as possible and ended up with a very fine HAT

[royal sequoia]

everyone loves hats

[ivory anvil]

i gotta say i love cantaloups name

[atomic comet]

there are a LOT of good names here

[plain dew]

man when i was looking at the doc the first time, i did not apprciate what HATS did

[atomic comet]

I almost joined Storm Blessed just for the name

[plain dew]

after the first few days of learning what "storage" "supply" is now, whew boy, do i like me a HAT 🤣

[atomic comet]

I am hoping they'll be as useful as they sound.

[ivory anvil]

HATs are like C-130s at face value they look ugly but when you take logi into account they go from a 2 to a 10

[plain dew]

I already know my next unit selection tho: its gunna be an orbital crew, infantry, and (pending reaper surviving) a hanger bay, so i dont have to rely on a very nice captain to loan me a room, i can bring my own.

[royal sequoia]

I do like that mechanic a lot tbh

[atomic comet]

the lack of armor or health on the HAT has me worried, but once we are in a tactical areas I think I'll have plenty to do

[royal sequoia]

very versatile

orbitals are a really cool concept in this iteration in my opinion

but next campaign, we'll be starved for crew :p

[atomic comet]

half of what got me here was just wanting to see the game design

[ivory anvil]

if Pizza Express survives i plan on making a BG deployment and redeployment BC

[atomic comet]

next campaign I think I'll try doing Crew

[jagged mulch]

I might go combat medic next campaign myself

[atomic comet]

I am curious how units will move between tactical areas when no TF will have room to carry them. Just some slow npc movement or something?

[tiny rover]

Next campaign no one should be starved for anything. Aren't we getting like over 2,000 reqs?

[plain dew]

if its planet side, BG move as fast as their slowest unit

[atomic comet]

everyone will have their own ship lol

[tiny rover]

Good lol

[atomic comet]

ah ok so we're sacrificing the ability to quickly relocate them

[ivory anvil]

goes from like 10 ships to like 100 ships lol

Klendathu Drop starts playing in the background

[atomic comet]

I assume each company (player) can have more than one unit, just only one unit per campaign?

[jagged mulch]

Correct

[royal sequoia]

with everyone buying their own ship, noone will want to crew other people's ships

[tiny rover]

Maybe I should just keep to upgrading my light vehicle then

If I still have it

[atomic comet]

I believe

[tropic solar]

And something we don't intend to do. Only reason to go that far ahead would be if the airfield gets treated as a starport.
The intent is to go with other bigger BGs that actually have a fighting force and then build the AF when Armco has a need for it

[twin cypress]

Good morning lads!

[jagged mulch]

Morning!

[royal sequoia]

Good morning!

Btw, still no news from the hvtol that contacted us a while back?

[jagged mulch]

Don't believe so

[jagged pagoda]

😎

Shame I’m no use on the orbis ;-;

[royal sequoia]

You can still do all the things crew do!

And you're also a part of our quick response force, I'm sure everyone will want one more engi on the ground

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, you'll most likely be with me and cat in a quick response force for support

Two medics and an engineer

I really hope I can become a combat medic next time and then get the upgrade that lets me drop from orbital drop pods

[tropic solar]

Hey Simm what is the strat movement speed for Atlas?

Well at the moment

[jagged pagoda]

2

[tropic solar]

Alright thank you!

[jagged pagoda]

We’re faster than TF1, but slower than TF3

[tropic solar]

Just want to get a feeling how fast Flying Shovels should go based on TF

[sage perch]

If you have a Marine for me, just stick them on my ship, for any other issues just ping me and I will get back to you at some point today

[topaz rivet]

With the talk of burning hard to Elim does that mean we know for sure it needs rescue or are we just assuming it does?

[turbid kernel]

Assuming, apparently it's been 3 weeks since the time of Armco receiving the distress call. We don't know if Elim is clear or filled with hostiles.

Good morning everyone!

[topaz rivet]

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to generate scenarios. If the whole planet has fallen that could be Case Red, for instance

[turbid kernel]

It might be a good idea. Are you willing to come up with some and present them? It doesn't need to be an exhaustive list

[topaz rivet]

Sure

[royal sequoia]

Something we never confirmed, but do you guys have any of your own large supply, or are you relying on us for it entirely? We've been asusming the latter so far.

[tropic solar]

Latter. Can’t start with loaded up LS in the HVTOL or HAT

[royal sequoia]

Okay! Then just to make it clear, we are fully dedicated to making sure you guys stay supplied for the entire campaign.

You'll need one every three turns, correct?

[tropic solar]

Yes that should hopefully the case otherwise 2 rec are a steep price for the supply depot 😅

Also I imagine we will only build the AF at the earliest in turn 3-4

[royal sequoia]

and the airfield with supply depot actually starts with 3+1 turns of supply

[tropic solar]

Oh is that still the Text in equipment? I thought it was changed so it is line with you being a HQ level supply point

[royal sequoia]

As far as I can see yeah.

So you really won't need that much. 3 or 4 large supply should be enough

[tropic solar]

That sounds like we could even build a 2nd AF if needed

[royal sequoia]

if it starts with more supply, it's more worth it to keep building new airfields x)

plus, even unsupplied, it allows hats to land and pick up troops

which is also a big deal

[tropic solar]

True venator and the other Ziyal BG would probably love that 😄

[royal sequoia]

and you already have 7 engies right?

with our own engi as support, that's a one turn build for the airfield

[tropic solar]

Should be even possible with a 4 engineer team. As build actions are 0.5 movement. Well at least they are not mentioned as primary actions

[royal sequoia]

ho I see

[tropic solar]

Exiting the transport would of course cost movement so 8 engineers + para drop is a one turn build

[royal sequoia]

which sounds hilarious

[tropic solar]

Did the same with Sand Rat 😄

[turbid kernel]

We also may be keeping Dawrf Fortress supplied to as well as FOBs that may be made at the front line by the bigger BGs

[royal sequoia]

but that was rought airfield right?

[tropic solar]

Yeah when engineers started with road building equipment

[royal sequoia]

Yeah, the only issue there will be moving our entire task force over there. SInce they only need medium supply, we have a pretty much infinite amount of that

[tropic solar]

The supply depot was the bottleneck back then and Morpheus and me were also the only ones with the equipment

[royal sequoia]

Yup I remember

I was part of the engies building the airbase with Morpheus

Fun times

[tropic solar]

He mentioned that when we were talking about selection

[royal sequoia]

That's very nice of him. I was always impressed with you guys, you managed to lead very well on Lussan. Like the whole operation would have been completely different without your efforts and planning.

[turbid kernel]

Oh and restock TF1 and TF3 if they start to run low on ammo, we have no idea how many orbitals the enemy may have

[royal sequoia]

TF1 has their own LS, I'm not worried for them

yeah TF1 has 13 LS, they can last 26 rounds x)

even with sorties and burning fuel, they're good

TF3 though....

they might need us

[tropic solar]

Thank you! There was definitely a determination from our side as we already planned the first request hub months in advance. Though Warli has to be credited for how much work he put into it

[shadow sigil]

Paradrop doesn't take movement form infantry.

[tiny rover]

If you guys are doing a resupply round and one of TF3 's fighters lands in your flight bay would they be allowed to re-arm?

[turbid kernel]

I believe so yeah

[topaz rivet]

I don’t see why not

[royal sequoia]

that would be cool

[turbid kernel]

They just have to leave after lol 😂

[tiny rover]

I'll have to make sure they keep that in mind

[tropic solar]

Oh nice good to hear!

[royal sequoia]

The bar and pool (table) might be too nice for them to leave

[tiny rover]

Lol well the fighter we had was one of the light mechs with an autocannon so I feel that pain already lol

[royal sequoia]

But I think we should try to keep Fluffle supplied. I like having a fast taskforce ahead of us

[tiny rover]

The vehicle bays are filling out pretty nicely

[royal sequoia]

So you guys will be able to form the task force?

[turbid kernel]

Agreed, scouting ahead will be a huge help

[topaz rivet]

Especially if it means Stormblessed can fully utilize their speed

[tiny rover]

It's getting new units every day so far

[royal sequoia]

Nice 🙂

[jagged mulch]

Nice! That's good to hear

[royal sequoia]

hmm maybe weird question: do our taskforces start supplied?

sounds logical if they would, but is it?

[shadow sigil]

We start with max LS and everything loaded.
I don't think we start supplied.

[royal sequoia]

okay

well, invoking the power of excel, and some optimistic estimates, we could keep ourselves, shovels and fluffle supplied for twelve turns if we store 13 supply

and if we don't spend it anywhere else

[wide quiver]

How do I join an orbital?
I wanna sign onto Masterminds ship but I don't know how too.

[royal sequoia]

Alright 🙂 First you need to create a new unit, called Orbital Crew

[wide quiver]

Oh

[topaz rivet]

But anyone can join a ship, so you could pick any of the starting units

[maiden belfry]

are you an infantry or other unit adam?

[royal sequoia]

Then you need to decide on the two ship upgrades that you would like to bring to the ship. They come as part of the orbital crew, you don't have to pay extra for them. Then you just activate, and log yourself onto the docs.

oh

sorry x)

[wide quiver]

Theres not a deactivatre unit command is there?

[royal sequoia]

yes you can join as any unit

[royal sequoia]

yes there is! 🙂 /unit deactivate

if you want you can join as infantry too

[maiden belfry]

doesnt give you rec back just a heads up

infantry medics engineers, etc can also do jobs on ship like man the guns or reload

[wide quiver]

I'd like to join as infantry if thats fine.

[royal sequoia]

of course!

[topaz rivet]

Woo! More marines!

[royal sequoia]

in that case, you can always just activate your unit, and add yourself to the docs that's pinned here

[royal sequoia]

speaking of which, since we're getting more marines, would you be ok garrisoning on my ship instead? :p I'm feeling a bit vulnerable at the moment x)

and I'm sure hats for drops planetside can still take you without issues

although of course it's not mandatory

[maiden belfry]

welcome to the crew mate!

[jagged mulch]

Welcome to the crew!

[turbid kernel]

Starting to wish we kept the guy with the armory upgrade. Least then our crews can shoot something lol

[topaz rivet]

Possibly. I’m going to wait until Friday or so to see where I should end up. People are still joining and I don’t want to keep moving since it’s confusing enough to keep track of things

[royal sequoia]

Gotcha! Makes sense

[royal sequoia]

It's still a wasted slot in my opinion. And Fluffle seemed happy with it

[topaz rivet]

Which may include joining Fuffle if they need more crew or to get to 15 (but not if we still need crew to keep our ships running)

[wide quiver]

I look forward to flying with y'all.

[turbid kernel]

Same here!

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-birds-pigeon-pigeons-raven-gif-8982041274490791885

[turbid kernel]

Technically, we're sailing (or steaming). It's the air crews that fly lol

[wide quiver]

What's the orbital equivalent of off the ground?
We are.. orbiting?

[turbid kernel]

"We are underway" or "away"

[pliant fjord]

Do you have any equipment? People keep saying that you have drop pods, but I'm not sure.

@twin cypress looks like Endurance picked up a VTOL bay, so you're officially out of purgatory

[twin cypress]

So now I'm a full part of the TF?

[pliant fjord]

Welcome to the team

(You always were, we just didn't know which ship until now)

[jagged mulch]

Though the VTOL bay may be moved over to the Picket Line, so there might be a little bit of movement before we start

[pliant fjord]

Anything else I missed in the last 8 hours?

[jagged mulch]

I feel like something happened

But I can't remember

[abstract thunder]

So guys, I may be able to get a battlecrusier if my Reqs get sorted out. @signal stream has recruit me to help here so if you guys are able to find some crew I may have a ship

[jagged mulch]

Well, we'll see if we can find some crew over the next few days for the ship

[turbid kernel]

Jesus lmao, we may start wondering about bringing a BG at this point lol

[royal sequoia]

which campaigns did you take part in?

[abstract thunder]

Lussan and Titan, Campaign 2 & 3

[royal sequoia]

Same as me 😄

Although I only got 4 req from that. Did you get anything additional from the side things?

[abstract thunder]

Honestly I don't remember

[royal sequoia]

In any case, that will net you at least a destroyer

[tired patio]

Good Morning Atlas!

[royal sequoia]

Morning 🙂

[jagged pagoda]

Greetings

[jagged pagoda]

Only if we can spare the LS

[jagged mulch]

Good afternoon!

[abstract thunder]

Since I haven't got a unit so I would use my free one to get a crew then use my other 4 to get captaincy and then a BC

[royal sequoia]

ho nice! Then yeah it works

[abstract thunder]

unless i have misunderstood it

[royal sequoia]

that's amazing

[tired patio]

Just looking over the sheet now.

Looking good.

This the plan?

[jagged pagoda]

So far, I think so

[tired patio]

Nice nice.

[royal sequoia]

Something along those lines

Although it will all change quickly depending on the situation on the ground

[jagged pagoda]

Yes

[tired patio]

The fleets now 5 Ships?! Nice!

[royal sequoia]

we're ready to drop to help Blessed Storm instead if need be

[jagged pagoda]

Strong logi fleet 💪

[abstract thunder]

Maybe soon to be 6

[tired patio]

6? Hell Yes

We make the pay on this job and we can expand our capablities substantially. Just gotta live long enough to get paid.

[royal sequoia]

Crewing another battle cruiser will be quite the effort though 😅

[jagged pagoda]

Hopefully most of us don’t have to see combat

[jagged mulch]

I think quite a few of us are gonna see combat

[abstract thunder]

don't say that

[jagged pagoda]

but I don’t wanna die ;-;

[topaz rivet]

If another ship gives us the space to move a a BG, how long will it take us to deploy it without a star port?

Hopefully our ships won’t see combat

[jagged mulch]

I mean, when a large part of your plan is sending down your own personal army... It's rather inevitable that quite a few are gonna see combat

[jagged pagoda]

Long… probably too long, unless they’ve got a lot of drop troops

[royal sequoia]

we have a ton of flight decks

so as long as it's paradropable stuff, we can deploy people real quick actually

[abstract thunder]

yes but I never actually go into that battle, I just enjoy my drink from orbit watching it

[jagged mulch]

Fair enough

[tired patio]

is that a new battlecruiser?

[jagged pagoda]

Ja

[tired patio]

So Atlas could end up with twin BC's?

[topaz rivet]

Or an airfield

[tired patio]

Nice!

[jagged mulch]

I'm hoping to not see combat but if they need a medic on the ground then to the ground I will go

[pliant fjord]

That's plan A at least.

Plan B, involves hiding behind TF1's guns at Elim if there are too many enemy orbitals. We'd help with the Starport capture in that case. (Also, if you'd like to be on the TacCom/Captains chat, please let me know)

[royal sequoia]

With another BC in play, I'll have to confer with my crew what we do

let's see when it's bought

[pliant fjord]

we may need to re-organize lol

[royal sequoia]

let's wait until it's official though

[pliant fjord]

for sure

[sturdy dew]

lmao. just spitting ideas here, but if we are flying with 2 Battlecruisers maybe we could spend some CS on hard hitting weapons at this point

[pliant fjord]

The hypothetical captain will have no Req leftover, so it'll be up to whoever we get as crew

[royal sequoia]

well they will have the two free req

we're lacking 2 cs for our current setup

and we'll need 8 more for the upcoming battlecruiser

[jagged pagoda]

I don’t like the reduction in repair kits :/

[royal sequoia]

if cap spends his two req on modules for the endurance, that we crew with our odt, we are good on cs for now

[pliant fjord]

we might be able to swap out a flight deck for a repair arm if the change goes through

What were Cantelope's picks?

Drop Pods and Sensors?

[jagged pagoda]

Don’t think they’ve picked yet

[royal sequoia]

Canta hasn't picked yet, except for drop pods

[turbid kernel]

This is true, we should consider either weapons or a dedicated repair ship with arms and repair kit storage

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, using the battlecruiser for some proper weapons could be incredibly helpful

[royal sequoia]

why though? we're still a logi force

[topaz rivet]

So we do have the people to crew a new BC but we don't have the equipment for it

[jagged pagoda]

A** proper weapon.

[topaz rivet]

If I understand the sheet correctly

It would be good if we could hold the high orbitals on our own

[tired patio]

great hearing we have more ships coming online

[jagged pagoda]

Agreed

[turbid kernel]

Self defense, a fighter screen to protect HATs

[tired patio]

For sure we need as much LS as we can get.

With another BC to the group that already adds some with its default holdings.

[royal sequoia]

I say store more ls on the new ship, and use it to actually carry a battlegroup

Like, we could actually bring rabbit to where they want to go

[tired patio]

Currently a Vote in #midround-events

About some structural changes that could happen for warships. All commanders should read and vote.

Which very much effects us.

[pliant fjord]

We've got so many flight decks already, not sure we need the buff

[tired patio]

double space means we can potentially double our DC or have more escorts if needed.

[royal sequoia]

Does it allow to store more planes, or also to launch more planes?

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, I'm not sure if we're gonna get the HATs, Bombers and Fighters to make it worth it

[royal sequoia]

I think it's worth it in general though

[tired patio]

Keeping them as they are means our crews can repair an extra hit in combat.

[topaz rivet]

Even if we need to deploy the BG at a starport, I assume it will be faster than waiting for the NPC ships (or NPNC non-player, non-combat?)

[royal sequoia]

Even if we're not getting more ships ourselves, that means battlegroups ships can launch from our bays

a battlegroup we'd be carrying to where they want to be

[tired patio]

depends. Once we arrive intel will be coming in fast. Will need to choose our objective. If all battlegroups have to land at the startport that means all our forces could get bogged down in 1 place.

We also don't know the current orbital situation.

We could find outselves in combat coming directly out of the gate. No idea how far the bots have pushed.

🤔 All hard to say.

[tired patio]

True. Opens us up to reload and rearm double the number of birds from other groups if they needed it.

[pliant fjord]

Can the new bays launch two at once?

[tired patio]

Yeah. Doubles everything.

[topaz rivet]

Case Black

[pliant fjord]

definitely worth it

[tired patio]

Which if we have to many flight decks as is this could free up more spots for Cargo.

Just use those flight decks to store stuff.

[shadow sigil]

You'd still need a DCT for this right to use the defualt repair kits?

[tired patio]

Replace them with cargo bays 😄

[jagged mulch]

Well, we're not exactly struggling for space 😅

[pliant fjord]

we could bring a BG to crossroads with shovel. With our HATs combined with theirs, we could probably deploy really fast

[tired patio]

Fair. How much are we hurting on crew?

[pliant fjord]

wait, we can do that? put an LS in an unused Flight Deck?

[royal sequoia]

this is opening up a lot of options

[jagged mulch]

I think we've still got ~4 things to be chosen by crew?

Hopefully we can get some more crew

[tired patio]

This would be swapping it mechanically for a cargo bay.

[shadow sigil]

Reminder not to ping Fleet command

[tired patio]

So no. We're not breaking any rules here. Also yeah dont ping fleet command. Bot gets grumpy.

[jagged pagoda]

Which bot?

[tired patio]

Looking at our Task Force. We look decently crewed.

[royal sequoia]

In terms of actual crew, we're fine. In terms of modules, we're lacking 2 right now, 10 with the new battlecruiser.

[abstract thunder]

Just gotta wait till Tuesday for the Req points to appear

[royal sequoia]

of course it also doesn't help that half of our crew is ODTs that will leave us at the first occasion :p

[pliant fjord]

Need one crew for Pioneer, but no CS, so an infantry maybe

[royal sequoia]

I also have fingers crossed for another friend who had PA before the bot came in. I have no idea how the bot figures out how to backpay x)

[jagged mulch]

Well, the pioneer doesn't actually need more crew, I just put /2 because it said 1-2 for light freighters

[pliant fjord]

I did confirm that deployed crew won't put us under the minimum requirement, they still "count" while deployed

[abstract thunder]

The bot creator does know me so I should be alright to get it fixed

[royal sequoia]

handy

Could you put in a good word for @alpine condor as well if you're feeling generous? 🙂 His PAI was garrisoning the Endurance on Lussan the whole game :p

[pliant fjord]

Now we get to garrison the Picket all game instead! /s

[alpine condor]

Yipee

[jagged mulch]

Jarn should clearly garrison the Endurance

[alpine condor]

My troops have forgotten what grass looks like

[royal sequoia]

Now let's wait until Tuesday I guess

[pliant fjord]

na, we're gonna be hot dropping at every opportunity

[pliant fjord]

Do they even have grass on this iceball planet?

[royal sequoia]

This new ship situation is crazy though. Beeing able to hold two planes per bay would change a lot to our deployement capability

simply in terms of carrying other battle groups, it gives us many more options

[jagged mulch]

Oh wait, I misread it

I read it as "Sadly this means will need to use up all of our entire fleets Repair Parts to do it"

😅

[alpine condor]

Maybe a little bit of lichen?

Something green

[royal sequoia]

we have 6 decks, so we could carry 6 planes from another battlegroup

[tired patio]

Just a reminder as well. I still have 2 Req. So if we're really neededing something just before the end. Ic an pick it up.

[sturdy dew]

so that we can defend against a superior class ship, not saying we have to go full spending on weapons btw

[royal sequoia]

That is entirely fair. A couple of weapons on the new ship would be great. I'd also love to see at least an hmg on the Picket Line

[alpine condor]

If we had infinite resources then having an escort ship or two would be cool

[royal sequoia]

technically the triple, the pearl and the pioneer are escorts x)

[alpine condor]

Oh god

[tired patio]

Dont forget Victorum is a Combat Fleet. So we wont be alone in Spaaaaace

[pliant fjord]

The Pearl has our biggest gun

[alpine condor]

Who took away all the guns from the escort ships

[royal sequoia]

hey, I have an hmg

[tired patio]

Not saying we should just stick with them. Just nice knowing we have a combat focused TF.

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[royal sequoia]

yeah, we shoudln't worry about anything more than self defense

[tiny rover]

If Tabby's ship isn't able to find enough vehicles to join for her vehicle Bay, would she be able to use that Bay as a cargo bay mechanically?

[jagged mulch]

2 hmg and an AC might do for now, if we get enough crew for the new battlecruiser then it wouldn't hurt to get an extra gun

[tired patio]

TripleS has Level and Bananaman as fighters / Bombers

[alpine condor]

Can always ask them for some escorts if things get hectic… or they could just blow up all the enemy ships before they become a threat

[tired patio]

So we do have a bit of escort / punch.

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[royal sequoia]

I'm a full on mini carrier

[sturdy dew]

im not sure i understand this well, can you have more modules than the CS value on the ship? so the Endurance has 8* CS but if you get more crew you can get over it?

[royal sequoia]

I need to find two more fighter/bombers if the change in deck space goes through

[tired patio]

and we're speed 2. So with the large supply to push us Speed 3 in a pinch.

[alpine condor]

Do you fit in a pocket though?

[tired patio]

Cool. Lets keep an eye out for fighters looking for a home base.

If it goes through. We should know later today.

[royal sequoia]

Ho god I just remembered the aviary, and their 7 flight decks

what are they going to do with all that space

[jagged mulch]

Who knows, maybe by some miracle they'll find 3 more bombers and 4 more fighters or something like that

[royal sequoia]

I need stats for the entire fleet composition

it seems to me we're actually quite light on fighters and bombers

[jagged mulch]

Well, most of our flight decks have been dedicated to HATs

[royal sequoia]

for now :p

we're about to open up space

[alpine condor]

Oh dear god

Does that mean 14 strike craft

[topaz rivet]

Boom

[royal sequoia]

yup

I need stats for the entire campaign

[turbid kernel]

Last count I think it was 4 fighters and a bomber?

Nevermind lol

[topaz rivet]

I think SAM can provide some data

[jagged mulch]

These are numbers from last night

[royal sequoia]

ok 23 fighters

is a good number

48 mechs 👀 wtf

[alpine condor]

Oh boy, 24 medics

[topaz rivet]

Mechs are cool

[turbid kernel]

We could ask if the fighter of BGs wish to join since their airfield reliant and not all BGs can make an airfield?

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[pliant fjord]

I wonder if there's a BG with a bunch of fighters that we could carry, the planes wouldn't count towards our LS if they join the crew I think

[royal sequoia]

I don't see why fighters would stay in battlegroups to be honest

that means the whole group is stuck to airfields

[royal sequoia]

or they can refuel and repair with us actually x)

[turbid kernel]

Last time I was in BG Spearhead we had 3 fighters.

[pliant fjord]

yea, if we're gonna be a mobile airport, might as well commit

[alpine condor]

Is there gonna be enough logistical capacity to feed all that infantry

[royal sequoia]

infantry doesn't burn supply really

[pliant fjord]

just the ones that get shot

[royal sequoia]

they just have a couple of single use weapons they can buy that could need reloading

[pliant fjord]

can't reload the missiles, but if they have heavy weapon upgrades, yea

[alpine condor]

Wonder what that single spec ops vtol and 2 spec ops units are gonna be up to

[royal sequoia]

they are the ones I really want to help drop early

they're gonna be invaluable

[pliant fjord]

I'll go check

[jagged mulch]

I think the spec ops vtol is part of storm

[alpine condor]

Can drop them behind enemy lines and let them run wild ahead of the main attack

[jagged mulch]

As you could've probably guessed

[royal sequoia]

our current task force is starting to become too big for my tastes tbh

we're slowly loosing any flexibility

[alpine condor]

Well, the ground forces when deployed will in many ways operate separately

So you guys can just abandon us if need be

[royal sequoia]

nono we can't

that's the big issue

[alpine condor]

(Don’t do that)

[royal sequoia]

we're a taskforce, so if the fleet leaves while you guys are on the ground, you are all declared mia

we litteraly can't change tile on the big map until we picked you all backup

[alpine condor]

I’m sure we can create task force Shrug if need be

[royal sequoia]

actually 🤔

what if

[jagged mulch]

I mean, would it be possible for us to split up into two task forces?

[royal sequoia]

the fleet changes tile in high orbit, and the infantry changes tile in low orbit

at the same time, to the same new tile

[jagged mulch]

That is a good point

[royal sequoia]

we keep coherency then

[alpine condor]

Yeah, we don’t always have to go back up to the ships

But do we have the transport capacity to move all the ground forces between AO’s?

[royal sequoia]

yup

if we have an airport

and that's a big IF

[pliant fjord]

that's why the crossroads airfield would be a dream

Storm and their specops are headed to Elim first

[alpine condor]

Maybe getting a group of airport makers would make sense for the logistics fleet

[pliant fjord]

And if Elim Starport is airfield-capable...

[jagged mulch]

From what I've heard there's only a single guy that is capable of making airports

[alpine condor]

Oh boy

Let’s hope for another then

[pliant fjord]

takes a field engineer (4req) with the construct airfield upgrade (2 more)

[alpine condor]

Oh

That’s a lot of req points

[pliant fjord]

yup

[jagged mulch]

Hopefully we'll have some more people who can make airports next time, but that's unfortunately all we've got this campaign

[topaz rivet]

Hopefully recon will tell us if there are airports on the planet somewhere

[jagged mulch]

Yeah

[topaz rivet]

Presumably Tora has a way to land on it

[pliant fjord]

Does anyone know if Aerospace units can land on LANDED orbitals with flight decks?

If so, we can land a carrier at Elim, and serve the same purpose as a constructed airfield

[topaz rivet]

Albeit with a much more limited capacity

Oh, wait, starport

[pliant fjord]

yea, anything that couldn't be paradropped could land on the docked orbital to deploy from the starport

[alpine condor]

This sounds like a funny, janky way of getting around the problem

You could also pack it full of ground troops and use it as a massive HAT

[pliant fjord]

that's the idea. All the IFVs, Logitrucks, and MBTs could deploy that way

BIG IF though, question hasn't been answered by Shack, so not sure

[topaz rivet]

Landing at star ports is the best and fastest way to deploy, the question is if the flight desk is still accessible

[pliant fjord]

yes, exactly

[tired patio]

We have a Light Freighter right?

[pliant fjord]

two, one with a flight deck

[tired patio]

Right found them on the dock. Pioneer.

[plain dew]

yeah thats why i bailed 🤣 its a logistical nightmare compared to just "fly back to the ship"

[tired patio]

Pioneer you might want to look into joining Fluffle. They are planning on being first in for the scout group. But they need Orbitals with Speed 3 like you! We're mid-speed and wont be arriving till wave 2 at a miniumum.

[pliant fjord]

@signal stream FYI see above from Shack

[tired patio]

We're very Battlecruiser, Cruiser, and Frigate size fleet. They could really use you.

[pliant fjord]

Any thoughts on the "landed orbitals with flight decks" question?

[tired patio]

Oh sorry I missed that.

[pliant fjord]

no worries, we know you're busy

[tired patio]

Oh yeah you can use the flight deck for sure.

I bet we see all kinds of strange Battlegroups once people have the cash to buy landable orbitals.

acting like little airfields or bunkers or repair bays ect.

[pliant fjord]

even at a spaceport? that's wonderful

[tired patio]

I mean.. don't be docked in the starport 😄

Hmm

Thats a strange question I hadn't thought about.

[pliant fjord]

that's my specialty lol

[tired patio]

Can you be a runway - while docked yourself?

https://tenor.com/view/wait-castle-hmm-confused-never-mind-gif-16205804

[ember python]

https://tenor.com/view/nesting-dolls-problem-sleuth-ace-dick-pickle-inspector-gif-27290552

[pliant fjord]

it'd let MBTs be dropped off by HATS at starports

even if the starport doesn't have its own runway

as long as an orbital with a flight deck is docked

[plain dew]

Sorry, i know it was discussed a bit above, but how does deploying a BG look with the added cruiser? Would the LS be maintained while also dropping like 30-40 people? its essentially 5 units per LS correct?

[pliant fjord]

that's correct, and it would be more likely

[midnight lotus]

hello

[pliant fjord]

howdy

[plain dew]

so if the flight decks go through... that could help also hold planes from a BG

right?

[royal sequoia]

yup

[midnight lotus]

so have you figured out what your doing start of the game? In victorum i've heard conisdering about burning an LS to keep up with you, but wanted to double check to where we are keeping up with lol

[pliant fjord]

That's the plan as of now

[midnight lotus]

to Elim? And are you carrying any BG?

[pliant fjord]

We get the main fleet to Elim to secure the starport ASAP.
If conditions are safe, Atlas would continue to Crossroads to assist in setting up a centralized Airfield.

[pliant fjord]

not yet, though with a hypothetical additional Battlecruiser coming in, we're considering it

[topaz rivet]

When I get back to a proper computer (tomorrow) I want to do the math to figure out our deploy/round capability

[plain dew]

1. move with TF1 (giving them a LS so they go fast), and TF3, and BG 3 towards Elim.
2. Secure Elim/starport
3. Ideally, carry onto crossroads and help secure it for shovels to setup airfield.

[midnight lotus]

i think if your speed 2 you still spawn in a turn earlier than us TF1

unless the LS fixes that

[plain dew]

oh i have no idea how that works... i assumed we all spawned at the same time

[pliant fjord]

I'm not 100% clear on how the spawning works, but I was under the assumption that the LS should fix that, and let TF1 spearhead

[midnight lotus]

if you choose to show up at T-1

[royal sequoia]

that's interesting

[midnight lotus]

we'd have to spend 2 LS to keep up with you

1 to show up at T-1 and 1 to jump to Elim

maybe

[pliant fjord]

ah, that does seem pretty expensive

[plain dew]

IMO... its still worth it.

[midnight lotus]

but also its the same turn and it doesn't use the speed to show up earlier

[topaz rivet]

Not sure if you can burn 2 LS at once

[pliant fjord]

earlier, we were prepared to burn one of our own LS to get you there (we're the support fleet after all)

[midnight lotus]

so maybe if we trigger a single LS increase it'll count as speed 2 but then we get to use it to go 2?

[pliant fjord]

(this is over 2 rounds)

[plain dew]

yea essentially its round 0 you burn one, and round 1 you burn one

[midnight lotus]

yeah this is a weird edge case

[ember python]

if we want to do that, we should probably bring more cargo space so we still have enough LS to dole out over the course of the campaign

[midnight lotus]

we're gonna have to ask shack

[plain dew]

agreed, lets us not just speculate 😂

[royal sequoia]

I have a tab with calculations, currently we have enough supply for our different activities for 10 rounds

not including burning LS on anything else than supply

[plain dew]

Does it include the additional another cruisor brings?

[royal sequoia]

not yet

it also doesn't include our 6 slots that are yet to be filled

[pliant fjord]

that's also assuming perfect conditions, and that Crossroads is safe enough to set up an airfield at.

[royal sequoia]

that's with a turn 3 crossroads

[plain dew]

okay yea, IMO, if we get that extra cruiser, i think its fine

[royal sequoia]

I agree

[plain dew]

it certainly makes bringing in a BG harder tho

[royal sequoia]

yes

[pliant fjord]

yep. Maybe if the BG is all para-droppable, we could swing it

I think it'll add an extra round to our timetable to try to land at Elim

[plain dew]

yea... IMO, its worth to spend resources early to secure as much of an advantage as possible. It could also be as capt said, we show up at the gate and immediately hve to engage enemy orbitals. So maybe we are all stuck at Speed 1 cause of combat anyways 😂

[pliant fjord]

definitely worth letting TF1 be the spear, but if its clear to Elim, we burn one of our LS to drag them with us?

[plain dew]

altho id say push them infront of us 😉

[pliant fjord]

totally

[midnight lotus]

we're the face tank

[loud mulch]

If any ship goes down before Primo Victoria, I'll consider my job a failure

[pliant fjord]

@rapid sail I see you've picked out Comms Intercept, but that does put the Pearl over CS capacity (EDIT: NEVERMIND, LANDING LEGS ARE FREE, I'M BAD AT MATH)

I could be wrong, but you'd have to take either the AC or the Com-Int, or move to a different ship that has room for both.

[tiny whale]

Bots ganked in bush cause we didn’t ward 😔

[pliant fjord]

Bringing up traumatic LoL memories

[tiny whale]

“I’ve been stat checked!! FF go next” I say as my HAT hurtles towards the grass on fire due to bot AA

[jagged pagoda]

We’d deploy the Helldivers if that happens, to clear the AA before we send more HATs 😂

[plain dew]

Junglers never gank your lane tho

[pliant fjord]

and with our scanners, we'll know if there's AA

[plain dew]

so they would deploy to another strategic zone

[tiny whale]

Yeah but mid will rotate and contest grubs, surely

(Mid will not)

[jagged pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-hellpod-helldive-helldivers-2-hellpod-gif-5849478231444523081

[pliant fjord]

Enemy is at the Nexus, Narsus still farming his q in top lane

[jagged pagoda]

Stop speaking your gibberish :p

[tiny whale]

A HAT full of infantry is a 12 stack

Better than a cannon

But seriously - glad to see how many ships we got 🙏🏻

[jagged pagoda]

Agreed

I remember when we struggled for ships and crew

Well… I was part of the first major income of crew XD

[royal sequoia]

the great migration

I'm still considering joining fluflle if they're in dire straights towards the end of the week. But we're not there yet. Since our orbital count is increasing so much, I was also thinking about making a fourth taskforce, but that'd cost an extra 2 supply per turn and I don't even know what it'd be for 😂

[pliant fjord]

Tac-Com sanity? /s

[royal sequoia]

hmm good point x)

our people count has exploded recently

[pliant fjord]

it's been pretty manageable all things considered, so thanks

[jagged pagoda]

Yeah but unless we’re deploying troops or there’s a space engagement, our TCS won’t be doing much, right?

So for the first few turns, yes, they’ll be super busy

But afterwards… :/

[pliant fjord]

crew and deployed assets still need to submit orders during the game

which we'll have to map and submit to the GM

plus we're the go-tos for rules questions during planning

[jagged pagoda]

Okay, didn’t know that

Fair enough 😅

[pliant fjord]

that's why I'm working on a "duty roster"

[jagged pagoda]

Good idea

[pliant fjord]

FYI, saw this floating around meta-comm:

Case Black - Lussan Gate is invested and we have to fight to get to the planet. No territory remains in friendly hands.
Case Red - the planet has fallen but Lussan Gate is at most only lightly contested by enemy troops
Case Orange - Elim is still held by friendly but is under siege or about to be.
Case Yellow - the enemy has not reached Elim. Locations between Elim and Ziyal are friendly or contested
Case Gold - Ziyal is friendly or is the only location contested on the planet.
Case White - No significant enemy forces on the planet.

[royal sequoia]

that is an amazing summary

we need to pin this

[plain dew]

I think its okay for us to be in hostile strategic zones, just at a safe distance 😂 we want to use our drop forces and air support, just not at the expense of exposing logistics.

[pliant fjord]

I dropped it into our doc, on the signup sheet

If someone feels like organizing a planning page, be my guest

[tired trench]

Yall in need of a fighter pilot?

[pliant fjord]

looks like the flight-deck upgrade will be confirmed, so we've got room!

check out the doc (pinned) and do some browsing, sign up on the sign-up page if you're interested

[topaz rivet]

Now people need to actually use this

[pliant fjord]

Case Black is why TF1 needs to go first

I think Case Red, we hold off on crossroads, and support Elim liberation
Case Orange, we try for crossroads?

[topaz rivet]

I’m assuming it won’t be Case Black because the BGs wouldn’t be able to do much for ages

[pliant fjord]

that'd be pretty disappointing, yea

[topaz rivet]

I’m for going as far forward as reasonable given the scenario

[tired trench]

Sign up page?

[pliant fjord]

it's on the pinned comments

[tired trench]

Ah.

[plain dew]

IMO red & orange we go to elim. As mentioned by others, we have too many BG who cant make planet fall without that starport

its a huge chokehold, so its worth over committing to secure it.

[pliant fjord]

maybe if the Starport is under threat sure, but if the BG can land before the enemy gets it, the BGs can control it

[tired trench]

It is done.

[pliant fjord]

Welcome aboard! We'll send out a ship roster a few days before deployment, unless you have a preference, in which case check out the "Crewing (New)" tab to pick out an orbital to be attached to

[tired trench]

Im good with what ever ship

[pliant fjord]

Varsson wrote Comms Intercept into the doc, so we've got both

[jagged mulch]

Oh nice, another fighter, quite nice to be able to start filling up flight decks

[jagged mulch]

And welcome aboard!

[jagged pagoda]

Welcome to Malevalon Creek

[pliant fjord]

@sage perch Are you gonna want a unit aboard to help operate your gun/comm intercept? (2 crew, gotta Pilot, FireAC, Operate Com-int, possibly reload AC)

[royal sequoia]

hey @west junco In case you have time, at this point you can pick whatever module you would like, we still have a lot of free slots. Our space restrictions improved greatly.

[sage perch]

I have @rapid sail , but I will take a Marine for marine things if you have a spare

[pliant fjord]

Not just marine things, you got more equipment than you do crew

[sage perch]

I have 2 people and a Gun and Cargo Bay

[royal sequoia]

I think the comms intercept is not planned there

[sage perch]

Correct, plan was gun and a cargo bay

[pliant fjord]

It got entered into the doc, so I'm guessing Varsson purchased it?

[royal sequoia]

he can have it but not want to use it

[sage perch]

probably, I have an HDPS as well, but I only have 2CS

[pliant fjord]

gotcha, comm-int isn't coming this campagin

[jagged mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[jagged pagoda]

We’re gonna be dropping Helldivers whilst SEAF build an airfield

[rapid sail]

I'm fine with not using the Comms Intercept, i burned the upgrade point before i knew what was needed

[pliant fjord]

Took me WAY too long to figure that out, lol, my bad.

[rapid sail]

Lol, no worries

[pliant fjord]

Operation Storage Shed (How many open unit slots do we have?) has turned up the following open unit slots:

1 VTOL/HVTOL
5 Aerospace
1 ODT (or other Drop-trained)
1 Fleet Crew (or two units with equipment)

These numbers may change as Minimastermind & Canteloupe pick their CS

[jagged mulch]

Ngl, would've loved to drop in with all the ODT, PAI and Mechs, but costs 6 req before I can do that :(

Hopefully eventually I can become a combat medic with orbital drop pod training

[jagged pagoda]

I think I’ll go for field engineer and get the ability to build an airfield

[pliant fjord]

Operation Make-Everyone-Happy (Assigning Crews to ships, while keeping preferences in mind) is still ongoing, but I have one suggestion so far:
Could we move @worldly oar 's VTOL Bay and HMG to the Picket Line? It'd allow all the ODTs to stay together and drop together.

[worldly oar]

@atomic comet

[pliant fjord]

Then if we want a gun on the Endurance, @west junco could buy an HMG or Autocannon as the second choice

[worldly oar]

I don't know what that means.

[pliant fjord]

You'd be on a different ship, but still in the same Taskforce, it'll be functionally the same except in specific circumstances. Our 1 VTOL unit would follow you

[jagged mulch]

Both could be nice, not sure if we more want point defense or something that can hit orbitals though

[atomic comet]

If Shmo wants to move that's fine. I just pulled him onto a ship with me but we'll be doing different things. @worldly oar

[jagged pagoda]

Having one anti-orbital would be useful

[jagged mulch]

Well, it'd be a second

[twin widget]

@merry summit is it okay if I dm you some questions about the C5 Logistical Hub, and some suggestions for the next campaign?

[jagged pagoda]

Ah okay

[turbid kernel]

Hey everyone, sorry for the radio silence. Family visiting this weekend. Seems like planning is going smoothly. Awesome to see the Case Scenarios brought up.

[jagged pagoda]

No worries, life comes before fantasy :)

[jagged mulch]

Nah, fantasy before life

[turbid kernel]

Oh right, forgot to ask again. Should I ask the fighters in BGs if they would be interested in joining as it would be easier for us to support them since the BGs might not get an air field up

[pliant fjord]

feels a little icky, like we're poaching from the BG

[jagged mulch]

That is true I suppose...

Unless it's VTOL from storm

Considering this is what storm is made up of

[turbid kernel]

Agreed but i don't want anyone going in misinformed and feeling stuck patrolling a BG that can't resupply them. I think I won't bring it up for now but I'll keep an eye out for those that figure it out

[jagged mulch]

Fair enough

[pliant fjord]

yup, just be respectful when informing. "We've got room, but talk it out here first"

[turbid kernel]

Yeah, shovels pilots are figuring it out but they know they're good since they're getting an air field and the BG doesn't plan to be leaving Crossroads

[pliant fjord]

They're definitely stuck there if the BG won't leave, that would suck as a fighter.

[jagged mulch]

I mean, I imagine defending the crossroads is gonna be fairly important

[pliant fjord]

hopefully, yea

I'm switching tasks for a bit, ping me if you need me

[jagged mulch]

Fair enough

[tired trench]

Thank you. I finally get to use my fighter

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, just gotta hope we get the extra deck space from the vote, which it's looking like we will

[tired trench]

I hope so.

Are there already maps out?

[jagged mulch]

Well, we have a map of the crossroads, though it's an 8 year old map

[tired trench]

O

[turbid kernel]

Hey, a PAI is looking to join a crew. I was asking if TF3 was interested but no reply back about it. TF1 pointed them to us since we have heavy drop pods. Should we accept them?

[ember python]

i think right now we can deploy all our drop assets in one go, and the extra PAI would change that math, but we also have HATs that can deliver them ground side, or we can do multi stage drops across a couple turns so, i would lean towards saying yes.

[jagged mulch]

Yeah, I think we could let them aboard

And who knows, maybe we could just get more heavy drop pods if we get that battlecruiser and some more crew

As much as filling it up with cargo bays would be nice, I'm not sure if we need that much LS

[solid hare]

I am a PAI that would like to join the tean if yall have room

[jagged mulch]

Sure, I think we are the group with all the orbital drop pods afterall

[jagged mulch]

Is this the same PAI or a different one?

[turbid kernel]

Same one. Welcome, Dasfier!

[jagged mulch]

Yep, welcome aboard!

Put down that we might want a fourth PAI

[turbid kernel]

I'll keep an eye out

[solid hare]

Thanks, I also have jump jets, I'll add myself to the spreadsheet later

[atomic comet]

We grew very quickly

[jagged mulch]

Indeed

[turbid kernel]

#1382036960356597963 message

Thing I just learned today lol. Putting it here for anyone else not in the know

[ivory anvil]

so there from what im seeing there is one downside to us being very drop pod heavy and that is we cant leave where we are until we pick up everyone. And being as the main way we have to do that is HATs means we need to make sure theres and airstrip wherever we drop peoples. If im reading and understanding the rules correctly

[topaz rivet]

Which is why one of the plans is to support the airfield builders. Though we could also secure an airfield well enough if recon can find one for us

[atomic comet]

Agreed. Which may be fine as we may want to spend a turn or two moving supplies around

[turbid kernel]

That really only affects the mechs (unless we can get an HVTOL). The PAI can go on the VTOL, I believe.

[ivory anvil]

i see where your coming from but we have 2 LM and only 1 VTOL

[turbid kernel]

Yes, but that's more a downside of having mechs more than having Heavy Drop Pods but being strategic for when we launch the mechs does mitigate the issue.

[ivory anvil]

Fair

[twin widget]

rude

But true.
But you also don't offer any benefits other than more survivability, but everyone with STORM is suicidally reckless anyways, so...

[atomic comet]

are you?

https://tenor.com/view/iceman-top-gun-gif-10742204

[twin widget]

No Comment.

[royal sequoia]

Pizza has a point though, the more drop troops we take in, the less we are a logistics fleet. We need to be at least somewhat mobile to be where we're needed.

[jagged mulch]

That is a good point

[royal sequoia]

It's all nice and all to keep growing, but what we're becoming is stuck to very few places to actually let half our members play the game.

At least we have the option to pick people up with vtols

But that's becoming a tiny portion of actual detachment X)

So like, we get people to draw straws to decide who's allowed to drop today

[sturdy dew]

The fastest way to recover the drop troops (including PAI and the others) its probably making a landing with Pioneer or the Pearl (?) 🤔

[turbid kernel]

Naw the new PAI can drop from the HATs due to the jump jet but I agree, unless we can get an HVTOL we're gonna have to be more selective

[royal sequoia]

This might have been an instance of 'old man yells at clouds' tbh

I'm just arguing against the inevitable

[turbid kernel]

It was an issue once we had a vehicle but no HVTOL.

[alpine condor]

We could if need be, split up into one logistics focused task force and one quick reaction force with some orbital support elements

But still stay like semi-integrated but just give the possibility of added flexibility

[turbid kernel]

It frees the Logistical side but the QRF still wouldn't have a way to get the mechs back. They would still be reliant on Airfields unless they can get an HVTOL

[royal sequoia]

I was more thinking of splitting mobile and stuck

[alpine condor]

Getting a pair of HVTOL’s would be nice

[royal sequoia]

Actually that's what jarn said nvm

Logistics is mobile

Qrf is stuck to airfielda

[alpine condor]

Smh

[royal sequoia]

But double the taskforce is double the supply consumption

[alpine condor]

Yep

For sure not a flawless plan

I think we should wait and see how many more join the party

[royal sequoia]

Yeah sounds good

I just had to get it out of my system

[turbid kernel]

Luckily many BGs do have HVTOLs though, so they can bring the mechs back for us without Airfields

[royal sequoia]

Been thinking about it for a while

I think we can borrow hvtols yeah

If we ask nicely

[alpine condor]

Who knows, maybe we get like all the transports needed to solve all our problems tomorrow

[alpine condor]

Is that what we’re calling theft now?

[jagged mulch]

Was gonna suggest this earlier, though for whatever reason I didn't 😅

[turbid kernel]

"Tactical Acquisition"

[solid hare]

Are we making plans?

[jagged mulch]

Not really, just considering splitting up the task force mostly I think

But anyway, I should really be going to bed now

So goodnight you all

[turbid kernel]

Good night!

[solid hare]

oof, well we'll have to see what happens

okay, got myself added to the roster for Atlas

[pliant fjord]

Welcome aboard!

Plans as of now is:

Atlas will follow TF1 to Elim (offering 1 LS to speed them up as needed). Then, if orbital resistance is low, we'll proceed alone to Crossroads to support/defend Flying Shovels as they build an airfield. From there, we can deliver LS to a central ground location, AND retrieve our deployables with HATs.

If orbital resistance is high, we'll stay at Elim, support the effort to take the spaceport and provide backline assistance to TF1 in space combat.

As always, the plan may change as more info shows up.
Would you like to ride along with the other PAI (me and Jarn) on the Picket Line?

[solid hare]

yea that works for me, I'll ride along I've got jump jets as well so I should be able to also move around and flank if needed or reinforce another area if needed

[alpine condor]

Do you want to be among the first dead (us 2) in this campaign?

[ivory anvil]

So PL has a VTOL Bay but no VTOL meaning that if we could get a HVTOL we could store it on PL and turn PL into a troop transport and collection point

[alpine condor]

Hell yeah, the suicide squad i mean tip of the spear grows

[pliant fjord]

We have 1 VTOL

[ivory anvil]

we have a Regular VTOL on Endurance

a VTOL bay holds 2 VTOLS

[pliant fjord]

It will most likely be moved to PL, since Endurance will be picking up Cantaloupe for the ODTs.

Ah I see. Shmo moved the bay, but not the pilot

I fix

yea, an HVTOL would be great, feel free to ask around for one

[pliant fjord]

Just checking for the doc, but

1. Is Aurora your callsign?
2. Are you activated with the SAMbot?

[turbid kernel]

There's I believe 7 in all the campaign. There's 2 in Storm, 2 in Venator. That's all I remember.

[alpine condor]

Haven’t actually activated my unit yet cause I’m waiting on the back pay from previous campaigns

[vestal ice]

Sounds good

[alpine condor]

But the company exists

[pliant fjord]

Copy

[red brook]

they'd need to have infantry bays to pick anyone up

I assume at least

[turbid kernel]

How much are you expecting in back pay?

[alpine condor]

Honestly no clue, don’t remember how much I’m promised

We’ll see

[turbid kernel]

Watch you show up with a battleship lol

[alpine condor]

Doubt it

[pliant fjord]

this is correct

[alpine condor]

But enough to at least stick some bling on my unit

[pliant fjord]

so fun punching through tanks while on foot

[alpine condor]

I’m looking at the PA jump packs and maybe a light laser

[pliant fjord]

Jump packs do look sweet

[alpine condor]

Honestly a travesty there isn’t a thunderhammer upgrade for the PA infantry

[pliant fjord]

Melee weapons are an option I think, and flavor is free

and you can combine it with the Jump Pack

if that's not a thunderhammer, idk what is

[twin widget]

whistles innocently

Surprisingly, Storm does not have th majority of HVTOLs.

[pliant fjord]

I'd guess an Armor BG has 'em

Tanks gotta Tank

[twin widget]

whack

No E-4 Mafia Shenanigans.
Unless, of course, there's something in it for me~ /jk

[pliant fjord]

though, while you're here, we did pick up a VTOL bay, and 1 pilot, so we've got room for another

[twin widget]

eyes STORM
averts eyes

[turbid kernel]

Yeah HVTOLs are just rare too. Doubt we could give BGs even one each lol

[alpine condor]

You get to design your own dress uniform and get to sleep in every day for 6 months

And we won’t check the requisitions record

[pliant fjord]

as long as you sleep in your armor, in your drop pod, I'm cool with that

[twin widget]

Not good enough-

My admin management headache is big enough as is