#Task Force 2 - Atlas: Comms
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whats differance between callsign and unit name?
One will need to be a flight decks and another orbital drop pods, and I suppose we just use the other two slots for cargo bay?
Callsign is the one with the 7 character limit
cool done
If our friend Thomas brings in another light freighter, that's another two free slots for stuff
More flight decks
Ha ferdy, you added yourself to the wrong ship. The TripleS is full as is, you're part of the Picket line
You don't cross the picket line
I think we are still missing regular drop pods, right? 🤔
Yes
But we have some crew who still have yet to get their things
So we'll have them soon hopefully
I forget myself too 😔
also I added myself to the sheet, unless that's a no-no I can delete it, figured cause of this note :)
With the amount of hats, fighters, bombers and mechs we have, I imagine trying to see if we can get a second engineer couldn't hurt I suppose
We would have space for them
Although the picket line is a clown car at this point
We are the "logistics" tf
I'm still worried about the legality of storing so much infantry on a ship with zero barracks
Hej droppods count as logisticising!
We could always ask in #meta-comm I suppose
We don’t need a mech bay if the mèches are in the TF
We do need a mech bay
Can we call our ground troops "Sisyphus"?
Advantages:
- he was punished by the gods like Atlas
- they will go up and down, up and down forever
Disadvantages: none
I like your thinking
Thank you
Heracles - does all the work doesnt want a reward
If only I had the 6 req required to become a combat medic and the thing that allows me to use the orbital drop bay too, then we could've had a medic drop alongside all our infantry
the picket line has another flight deck now thanks to ferdy so could you, @atomic comet , move to it (especially since that ship has all the infantry) so I can be on simms destroyer?
Hej we run an ethical dropshipping business!
Engis can get flamethrowers
And I’m all caught up
I think barracks are only used to deploy on ground? If you have a flight deck/HAT you're using its DC? But im very confused about the orbital rules interactions.
Yes, but only at an airfield
Just checking, which orbital would my HAT go on? The Picket Line?
First time looking at these sheets and dont wanna step on any toes
Yes most likely
yeah, the tripple S is already full
Thank you!
The dock shows two free slots on the Picket line. Has someone not been put in yet?
my fighter isnt on a ship, we need one more flight deck
We will get that for you!
I meant 2 upgrade slots
We still have three crew who didn't pick stuff
What upgrades are you getting mini? I think that would help the process along
If Thomas crews his own mini aircraft carrier, I could put the orbital drop pods on my ship to try to least split up a little the PL massive population
Take the ODTs (also I wouldn't say no to some boarding protection :p)
If we do that I'll probably join you all on the destroyer seen as that's where the odt would be
We have 27 people, up to four being on the two freighters. That leaves 23 players to split between a destroyer and a battle cruiser 😂
At least we don't have to worry about boardings I guess, anyone landing will find each wall is actually a deployable bed with a marine inside
@signal stream I think it's safe to say we could use another light freighter. You can be your own mini aircraft carrier with a fighter. Any additional modules will help immensely. Although it's not mandatory of course.
Ok, I'll go get a light freighter. It's been fun being on your crew for all of 1 day.
Can’t believe the logistics fleet has ended up with its only personal, deployable army 😂
I was glad to have you be my only crew. I hope it's okay for you to fly your own.
I know you'll miss the Triple's pool and bar :p
"logistics"
Yeah it was the best part
we have a pool!?
Anyways I'm a captain now, so this should be fun
have you added your ship to the sheet?
Doing it now
Congratulations on the promotion!! 
Thanks, I couldn't have done it without you guys
Given the situation i think we could also use 1/2 more engineers
Definitely
I'm excited to zip around (or in my case, be zipped) delivering supplies, and ass whoopings via drop pod, where ever they may be needed. ATLAS: We're Gonna Carry That Weight.
Can you carry soupply?
That’s included in every LS
Savour the flavour, eh @vestal ice ?
Not yet, damn mech-hands are expensive. But after this pay day? you betcha i'm gonna buy me some mech hands so i can pick stuff up and put it down.
I will do my damnest to help the effort though, with moral support, and also running intercept/interdict on any groundbound toasters that try to interfere with load/unload ops involving the TF's HATs.
Morning all, we really just pulled an extra ship out of nowhere, huh? Lmao
Yep, TF3 must be jelly 😅
We're not competing with them. In fact we probably need them to scout for us
we have truly become the aggressive logistics we were always meant to be
Watch everyone drop without scouting, in the middle of the enemy, and get destroyed
Then we're back to supply only X)
Thats why scanner/sensors would be top notch on one of our ships 😏
Hey, can I hop on one of the ships as crew?
I could have sworn you did lol
I never decided which
I think we've got more than enough crew 😅
I think tf3 was in need of crew though last I remember
sigh... off to search for space again
Really recommend TF3 they're in desperate need
I think Tf3 really needs it
We have @west junco and @worldly oar to finish filling things up
We have enough to cover the modules yeah? We're just looking for an ODT and something else yeah?
i can't sleep, so instead i'm spreadsheetspotting, so if this makes no sense at all, I'm truly sorry--
so the standard drop pods can handle 2 ODT at a time. does this mean we want another ODT for more efficient... haha, lol. question answered.
Am I missing one of the crew? I'm counting up the crew, I see two crew who haven't added modules
Wait, no
I'm being stupid
Ignore me
We have 4 open slots, I thought we still had 6😅
We have 4 open slots
4 CS yeah?
Yup
And two crew that should be ready to fill them
I pinged them, we'll see when they answer
What modules are still needed?
Yeah, completely forgot Ferdy put some in
What we still really really need is a flight deck and an orbital drop bay
That leaves us with two slots with freedom for nice things, or more cargo space
Maybe a scanner would be cool?
Or a gun for the PL 😆
A scanner sounds like a good idea
But ultimately it's up to the crews
Has Mini selected his modules yet? I know he reserved 2 slots but never specified what they were
Ahhh
if the TF can handle it an additional heavy drop pod system might not be a bad idea, as it would allow for a 2 turn disgorgement of all of the TF's drop assets, unless i've done mathed dumbly. though more cargo space is probably better
Yes there's mini too!
We already have a heavy drop pod system, and would like a normal drop pod system. With that we can fire our odts in two turns
We should clearly strap a massive cannon to the destroyer
So we ask mini to get the drop pod and flight deck? And the rest is free game?
Yeah, pretty much
unless i've read it wrongly, the heavy can drop 2 PAIs or 1 LM, yeah? so thats 3 rounds to fully deploy? i still think there are likely better things to get. scanner sounds good.
2 PAI or 2 LM I believe but I'll double check
A second heavy drop pod system would be redundant I think.
Round 1, drop LM, PA can paradrop from a HAT.
Round 2, drop 2nd LM.
Oh it could be read either way. Gonna have to ask for clarification. One moment
Scanner or cargo are good picks imo
oooh, PAI can paradrop, i missed that.
But we did want to deploy them with heavy drop pods
I thought it was also two mechs at a time
That's a huge parachute they must have 😆
It's definitely 1 mech at a time, I'm checking on the paradropping.
It's boring in comparison to the drop pods though
(imo)
One mech a turn would be a little disappointing
If we can find two more power armor infantry we can justify a second heavy drop pod system 
It's very reasonable trust me
how does being logistics force work gamewise?
bc we have our own mini army but Im not sure on the supply aspect
We float from base to base and resupply their FOBs and Airfields to keep them running. We also support them with our ground forces while in the area
ah so thats why we have such a focus on HAT’s
Being airfield dependent is a big limitation though keep that in mind
Paradrop is also more risky if you're flying in contested areas. That said some sort of scanner could be very useful and it can be used every turn i think
Either we don't drop our troops everywhere or we're stuck in relatively few spaces
or we kidnapp some engineers
I'm adding the scanner to the tobuy list
Nah, hats don't even land on rough airfields
They need a refit for that
hi I’m thinking of, after successfully completing this mission and surviving, upgrading my guys to ODTs any tips on what should be prioritised when purchasing upgrades?
My only tip is wait to buy stuff until Shack confirms the rules for the next mission. Upgrades has changed a lot since i got here
We might want to reexamine the VTOL bay question. It might take forever to reload but it would open our operational capabilities immensely
as far as what Atlas is trying to do, the supply packs and/or pods would be really good. not only does your ODT hit the ground providing fire support, but also here's some of the supply you needed delivered upfront. but honestly, most of the options on offer seem good and cool, so, ultimately personal preference I guess?
I guess that is true. That would open the option to dropping some infantry or mechs I guess
There was a HVTOL looking for a home earlier. I can see if they still want to join.
oh... oh... that could be an issue
Nothing says they have to be taken again lol, I'm really hoping we don't have to spend an RP getting the same module over and over lol
i would assume so because they don't have a listed limit and/or ammo?
I hope so too
They should
Yeah Drop Pods don't require ammo. Can deploy each turn
any luck?
IF VTOL bays have space for two
Then it's probably worth it
Even get two of them
Can confirm, OD pods can be used ad infinitum, so can breaching pods.
Sent the message but no reply, they could be busy. Their last message to everyone was that they didn't have to make the decision quickly. Seems like they might just sit on it
That's alright, there really is no rush
Hats hats hats
that's the HAT's
ideally the HATs can take us back up to space so we can drop some more
or potentially HVTOL's
damn the HATs do space too?
they are aerospace yes
Hats are amazing
same with bombers and fighters
They even protect against the sun I heard
neat
yep, them aerospace flyguys have all the fun toys. they can go basically where ever they like, slip between atmo and orbit, and for HATs at least, carry a ton of whatever on the way
Round 1: Loaded HATs paradrop all infantry to secure LZ, while engis build Airfield at crossroads. LMs use drop pods, since they can't paradrop.
Round 2: Hopefully Airfield will be done, HATs return to space to grab LS for Airfield. Ground forces fight enemy.
Round 3 or 4: Ground units return to Airfield for extraction, HATs return all.
Yep, only down sides of HAT? Need airfield and made of paper
at least, that's my understanding of the plan
yep, they get 1 hit, and have no armor
Something like that. I'm not sure it'll be as perfect as intended but it could work.
Round 0: orbital drop LM and odts to LZ and secure it
Round 1: HAT paradrop engis and medics
Round 2-3-4 as you wrote. PAI can paradrop or launch from orbit as they prefer
Regarding the vtols, we don't need to recruit them necessarily, we can just lease them from other task forces
We're enough of a magic bus as is
The issue is that we can't make the proper airfield for the HATs to land (unless our HATs have rugged upgrade) unless our engineer has the upgrade. Which last I heard only 1 guy in the Shovels has that upgrade
Also, I wouldn't drop without intel :p
I sense someone watched the same TV as I did 😄
that scene where what's-his-face takes his helmet off while standing on the surface of pluto still haunts my dreams
Shovels top priority is to establish an airfield in crossroads
So our top priority is supporting shovel
It’s probably a good idea. Most of us groups are going to be at crossroads anyways
Yup, and it seems like our primary assets are the... 3 HATs to keep the base at Crossroads supplied
even as the campaign pushes into the cities, we will probably only leave Crossroads if we secure a hypothetical airfield within the city.
3 hats is a lot of hats
Clearly need more hats
Unless HATs can land at spaceports
If other positions need support or supply, we could think about going there if we have a VTOL bay
Don't spaceport also work as airports?
Seems a bit silly
They should
I'm sure these people have the infrastructure for plane travel somewhere
They don't, official ruling was "Depends on the Spaceport"
HATs can paradrop supplies to Logi still. They don’t need to land unless they want to drop off, vehicles or LS at an airfield. But they can just pull supplies from you and give out supplies at the airfield instead of suppling it.
yup, we'd balance the need for a resupply with our ability to deploy and recover troops
Though if we have the spaceport, our Destroyer or Freighter can land there to deploy
If HATs can paradrop large supplies that would be a good send. We're not much of a logistics fleet if we can't deliver supplies where they are needed.
Us shovels also have 4 HATS and a HVTOL to keep ourselves supplied
At this point it is our intention to handle supply runs ourselves
We are worried about the HATs survivability though. Want to have them escorted if air is contested
Got 2 fighters for that but idk if that will be enough
Multiple groups have fighter detachments and should be at crossroads if that is easier for you guys. From what little I know it’ll cost you LS to sortie your fighters in
Yee, that is the conundrum. If we sorte with fighters and HATs, it's only worth it if we get many LS at one time
Unfortunately it’s unlikely we can secure the mine south of crossroads for you guys as it only has an air connection. You could petition storm to head there and scout it or potentially secure an air lane for you guys
We'll probably end up going to crossroads the most (as long as no enemy orbitals push us out). We have our own HATs and Fighters to support
I know we've got "a couple guns" but are there ANY combat-focused orbitals in the fleet?
---- RP POST ----
[32mGood Morning Captain
There's worrying talk about Bot-ships
technically the Pearl, it's a AC and a Cargo bay
No we don't, we'll likely have to run if enemy orbitals show up
isnt that the battlegroups job to fight off ships and whatnot?
downsides of a logistical force
I mean that’s why you have TF1 and TF3 though
Don’t know the specifics but a ton. Last I heard they should be able to handle pretty much anything up to a full orbital contingent with ease
TF Victorum is a lot of guns
excellent
TF3 is alot of speed but Im not sure what TF1 is yet
I also think TF 3 will fold into you guys. They don’t have enough crew.
Combat high orbit combat
ah so pure combat focus
Yeah TF1 has their big battleship armed to the teeth and a few battle cruisers as well with moderate weapons focus
if there are any bot-ships over Crossroads, we might not want to burn the LS to rush in to help Shovel
Counted 8 guns and multiple bombers in TF1.
They have 1 battle ship and 3 Battlecruisers
We have 6 MBT cannons.
And a carrier ship.
Also, adding a tab to our doc with Crew Duty rosters. When it comes time for orders, these would be your default action for the round "I operate this equipment"
(Which you are not required to do)
100%, just the default
Mostly for my sanity's sake, if you don't submit in time, we'd still know what you're doing
fair
You can’t do that.
If you don’t get orders in they don’t do anything.
We're gonna need it. TF2 will have to run from any engagement with enemy orbitals
Are there any players in the Task Force who aren't logged in the doc yet?
Yep. Just come to us when possible
the spreadsheet with the ships and whatnot right?
alright I signed up
I got to get back to work.
You’re free to ping me if you need to communicate with TF Victorum.
Cael and Kaelnova are the TACCOM so you can ask them questions too.
Sounds like a plan, we have enough speed to keep ahead of the big boys and LS to burn if we really need to run
did we ever get those sensors?
Not yet, I think we're waiting but they are high on our shopping list. We have 4 CS to fill still
k
fair, prepare for Ixen-annoying-mode if I can't convince a sub-GM as I ping you three times for your orders
We have two fighers, one bomber, one autocannon, one hmg for now
We should be able to handle light raiding from planes or something like that
I'm wondering if we should get Breaching Pods. Send in the PAI and ODT we carry.
imo we look at essentials and when those are said and done than we can consider things like breaching pods
your our main TACCOM right?
still learning names round here
breaching pods 😂 now that would be fun to witness
It would be our greatest weapon. But they only work on 1 armor hulls and it's one squad at a time.
One of two, Failhouse is the other
k cool
so what you're saying is we need two breaching pods :p
As much as I love that, I don't think we have the CS lol.
@royal sequoia I know it's probably unconfirmed, but did we ever settle on a most-likely pick for the last two slots on Picket?
crew slots or some other slot?
Customization slots
ah
a lot has been pitched, like sensors or another flight deck
I do want at least 1 sensor
right now there's 6 aircraft and 5 flight decks
I hate the idea of blind dropping
Right now we have 6 free slots, the must haves are a flight deck and an orbital drop bay
lemme guess
and then 4 free slots
flight deck is 2?
no we have 6 free slots
Just need our crew to decide what they want
after that, we can split the aircraft and troops between our ships
and then we're good to go!
k cool
How’s the LS count and fleet construction coming along? Trying to catch up on everything this morning
we're still at 7 ls
waiting on the crews to decide if they want more ls or fun modules
my hope is a little bit of both
aren't we getting more from the extra light freighter?
nope
yup
Ooooh. What fun modules are on the table?
Vtol bay may be too ambitious with the severe lack of VTOL players, but it'd be nice
we only get two more free ones right? everything else has to be brought in by crew?
I don't think there's a lack of vtols per se, they're just all already in battlegroups
we have 6 free ones, with 2 that we really need
so 4 free modules
1 or two more cargo bays we need for sure too
We need the VTOL bays if BGs we help want to ferry our troops for us I believe
yeah that's the idea
You can only ever deploy one unit at a time
i can still be a bomber wing in the future, the deployment would just take time then
which city is that?
That's the Crossroads
Not clearly worded, my bad. As in, you may only have one active unit at any point, one unit in one campaign/mission
A bomber wing of one is all lol
You can spend them on a bunch of different upgrades for your bomber
It is actually 3x226.796kg time :p
I wonder if aircraft can land on orbitals with flight decks while in Atmo
I continue to be eternally disappointed I dont have my own emojis
i.e. landed, or in Low orbit
Hey team.
Captain on deck!
How goes Atlas? I hear your the fleet thats planned speed 2 and focused on support?
that's the idea. initial plan is to assist the construction of the airfield at crossroads, with our deployables offering cover
Well tenative plan is for the Endurance to join Atlas. As its a Cruiser
and basically sit in the back and tag along as a support ship.
that's pretty much our M.O., so we'd welcome another!
Current kit. Cargo Bay, Heavy Drop Pod System, Cruiser
Think you can add the Endurance to your roster?
definitely, our PA will be happy for the extra pods
That's some amazing news!
It sounds great. Do we have to find crew for the Endurance?
I also have 2 more req. If we need to expand what the Endruance can support. More Cargo ect.
Figured I'd wait and see what the crew ends up having.
I will work on it later.
let you know who signs on.
Very nice, thank you
So far, we've had demand for Sensors and another Flight Deck, but nothing confirmed yet
Whos running Tac-Com for this group?
plus VTOL bay, and an extra gun maybe
Oh lol soprry Ixen.
Me and @atomic comet are splitting the work
literally in your name.
I will have the image assets out today or tomorrow for space based Tac-Coms.
more ships for the logistics gods
I have to say that changes a lot of things. Let's wait to see who Cap finds as crew and what modules they bring. We can try to adapt afterwards?
Nah, we're not logi anymore, we're jack of all trades XD
we say were logistics
We can transports, fight, and do logi XD
ignore the small private army
Yes, we're logi in spirit.
logi in theory
Something I really don't want to say as well, but that means that Atlas is really doing well in terms of ships, so if they're still lacking people for their operation, I should consider joining Task force 3.
Very angry logi
Your bomber and probably fighter will follow you wherever you go, captain
Same for your marines i think 
Still waiting for mister cantaloupe to be there 🙂
:(
it would also be really funny for you to help organise this TF so much, and then leave and help organise TF 3 as-well
Or we could just merge the two TFs into one
nah that'd be a waste
no, becuase they have seperate funtions
tf3 should be fast scouts
And I have FINALLY managed to finish a new spreadsheet
Logisticus is pleased
Oh, that's much better, we should use that instead
Yeah, took me about an hour, but now it does it all automatically
Hullo. We're debating out early deploying in Storm. We're wondering; do y'all have the capability to escort us? Meaning fight off any Aerospace units en route to Elim City.
Or in general, what does your deployment look like?
Victorum is quite slow, and we'd possibly be delaying all the other BGs turns if we go with them, so we're looking at what options are out there
our space combat capabilities are not stellar. we have a few aerospace, and two or three guns
We have plenty of rapid deployment troops though, courtesy of Storm Blessed XD
how do we use it
for now we have two fighters, one bomber, one hmg, one autocannon. Plus whatever the crew of the endurance might bring
All you need to put in is your name and equipment
Add yourself to your ship as you have already done elsewhere and I think it'll do the maths for you :p
Or a bit extra if you're a captain
It will
I assume one needs to capitalise and spell their equipment correctly?
did i do it right?
Spell equipment correctly, yes
Capitalise, no
And yes
Capitalisation doesn't matter for excel it seems
Link?
It's in the same spreadsheet as everything else
So it's in the pins
there's so much more space on the new version for the logo 😄
I do quite like using that space for it
Logistics question:
Shack brought his own Heavy Drop Pods on the Endurance, would @stuck mountain be ok with switching over to crew it up?
The two Mechs @ember python @vestal ice would follow and deploy from there rather than the Picket
PAI would stay on the Picket and use my Heavy Drop pods
Sounds like a solid idea
let's wait to see what crew shack finds
remember finding crew is not that easy
but he's very well known let's say, so I don't think he should struggle much on that front
no kidding...
Drop down doesn’t have mech as option
that's a bit callous of me to say, but we don't have infinite crew ourselves
Does this mean that you guys are going to need heavy VTOLs to return the light mechs to endurance?
only infinite infantry it seems
Now it does
either that or an airport
We don't have a VTOL dock yet, right now the plan is HATs
Yes
infantry can serve as crew I think
Yeah, what logistics fleet doesn't need it's own private army afterall?
Most armies have a logi corps. This logi corps has an army.
to quote what someone else said
any unit can be crew
we deliver firepower
Good morning everyone
Good morning!
Morning
Morning!
In case you missed it, we have a new ship, in the form of Shack's Endurance :D
And we also have a second freighter now too, since one of our crew became a captain
Oh sick
damnnn
If we get a few more cargo bays, we might actually be in a position to transport a BG
Granted, a very small one, but we probably still could
Agreed XD
Someone needs to be logi
shovels only needs to be resupplied every 4 rounds
but i have no idea how hungry the other BG will be...
However, the few aircraft and many rapid-deploy troops we have means we can assist in the inital assaults very well
this is exactly the reason i joined here
And any other battles which need an extra boost of forces thereafter.
you guys can help out in the initial, probably most important assault, and then just kinda help out while running logistics
yes
he is with me and Simm
he just made his company
yes
Alright, my Crew-list is as complete as it can be without knowing the final picks.
Moved all ODTs and LMs to the Endurance, our Light Freighters are crewed, and the Picket will carry the PA and the majority of our Aerospace
Can you add yourself to the sheet then pwease? 👉 👈 :3
TripleS has one HAT and one Bomber
Pioneer has one fighter
Picket has Two HATs and a fighter
Though we still need 1 more flight deck somewhere
tripple s should switch out that HAT for a fighter, with the hat being moved, atleast if failhouse agrees
unless im missing something, you need a flight deck on picket
TripleS can only support 1 plane
So either you or the HAT is gonna have to move
no?
It's coming it's coming
Is Ferdy & Perrin the same person?
oh now it can
Be patient 😉
one of the crew got moved
spoke too soon, Ferdy's on Endurance, so we can move 1 plane
No, two different people XD
ah okay, so someone needs to move off Picket
Yeah, the crew who had the flight deck on the TripleS got promoted to a captain
Also, although I know it's fun, I would recommend against moving people from ship to ship willy nilly. You need their approval, and some people just want to be on specific ships.
surely captain has the best booze right 👀 that was my main requirement when picking ships.
Nope, PL can support three crafts
But another flight deck is coming, do not worry
Alright
ive added my self to sign up sheet tab, tho idk what ship to put myself on for the crew tab cos im pretty sure none of them have a free flight deck last time i checked
I will have a flight deck free for you soon, no stress
I believe Banana wanted you to be on the same ship as him, but that's for you to decide :p
yeah I do too
Alright, I'll pause the mania for now lol
but there isnt space
Then that's settled XD
ah dont worry im not stressing im sure youll handle it
Tell me where I am needed. (Hold my hand newbie style please)
you are a mech pilot, right?
For now we have no clue 🙂
I think you've been put on Shack's Endurance
Because it has HDPs
We have two HDPs now, one on the Endurance, and one attached to me.
current proposal is to put the PA on the Picket (with me) and the mechs on the Endurance
Yes, Ixen's one on the picket line is for our PAI, while Shack's one on the Endurance is for our mechs
Just making sure you guys are aware of the vote in BG3 going on right now. They are deciding which TF to run at Elim with. Might want to consider certain bay options if that is the case
Should helps us get all our PAI and mechs down faster
Wdym?
ill put my unit in triple S for the time being so that people know where I want to be, ping me if you need me to swap to another ship
Who's BG3
Sounds great
Storm
Storm
Ah
If we go with them they're gonna need VTOL bays to repair and rearm at
Are we even going to Elim?
I assumed most people are to start
I thought we were helping Shovels go to Crossroads
we need a starport for the other 9 BG to deploy lol
I believe the plan was to support the shovels go to crossroads
Not even VTOL bays necessarily. They really just need an escort so you might want to consider some additional weaponry if they want to work with you
they should be rolling with TF 1...
TF 1 is too slow according to BG3
Well it’s a trade off between protection and speed…
Elim first and then Cross Roads was what I heard from the liaison
Right now speed seems to be winning
Going alone?
shame TF 3 is struggling
We don't exactly have many weapons 😅
We've got an autocannon and a HMG I guess
TF3 is speed
I dislike taking such hasty and definitive decisions with such a lack of info
Like, I don't see the point
Just wanted to make sure you guys were aware of what is happening over there because it affects you guys too
well it doesnt if we dont go with them
😂
also it hardly seems like a good idea to vote on which TF to go with, without asking if said TF's are going to the same place as them
Both TF2 and Tf3 are not even done assembling yet
Definitely, thank you for the info 🙂
I wouldn’t blame you guys but I would tell them that🤣
Helping crossroads with airfield is plan A.
If it's too hot, we'll hunker down behind TF1, and slow roll into the city for deployment
wait is TF1 already assembled?
That has been my argument with them too, they want us to definitively state we are burning an LS for speed
well they didn't bother to ask us where we were going
Yes, unless we get another orbi
Which is unlikely at this point
True that
Whats TF1 current plan T1?
i think most of our TF was in agreement with going to crossroads to help the shovels
Basically our first priority is securing a star port for the BGs to land
Obviously this is your choice but I can only speak for myself when I say: You're one of the most active Captains (not throwing shade, life gets busy for everyone) and losing you would be a real blow to the organizational leadership of the Taskforce. But we can also wait and see what we can do
though we ofcourse haven't decided anything definitive
I say ignore what is going on in other groups for now, focus on getting ourselves operational. Which only needs one thing: wait for our two remaining crew and our captain to take decisions. That only they can make
So question: is your plan to transport a Bg or to transport the necessary LS for ressuppling, sorties, etc?
I am a bit out of the loop right now
on one hand that is true, but having an actually operational scouting TF is also really valuable in it's own right
To transport the LS for now
We have to go through Elim to get to the Crossroads unless we're going around to the mines to the south
There is still plenty of time to make that decision. It may be better if fluffle merges with you all but we will see
I'll get with Shmo today and get him on a ship with his upgrades
ah, failhouse, welcome back
It's no rush btw 🙂 I didn't mean to make it sound so
IMO this should be fluffle... they just need to be up and running
I just don't want him to wait until the last minute. And now that we have a new ship that needs CS his decisions will matter
if they get a freighter with a flight bay, i think they will be in business.
Ok I like that. Also I can very much understand your opinion on the hastiness of the plans. I am not even sure that cross roads will be the ideal place for an airfield
yes that's what we were talking about, they need more orbitals to do that, so simm was thinking about perhaps switching over to them with his destroyer, since this TF got an extra cruiser
I did reach out to one of our crew who's upgrades (drop pods and heavy drop pods) aren't being used to see if they would be interested in swapping over to you guys
It would certainly be the ideal place for a major FOB at least.
more crew is always welcome
though if i remember the last count, i think we had enough to supply our own hull modules
Fluffle, just got another orbital and they're still filling out the vehicle bays. It's starting to look like they're going to reach 15 by the end of the weekend
If we have another drop pod and heavy drop pod then we can drop all of our PAI, ODT and Mechs in one turn
in that case, @royal sequoia can probably stay with us
We could be the Winged Hussars, dropping from high orbit XD
oh good lord
We'd be the Helldivers
It definitely has the benefit that except for DF every Bg can get there in one turn. I just don’t know if it will be the best place since we have only limited intel and I still need to wrap my head around with the stratL movement
2 Mechs, 3 ODT and 2 PAI dropped directly into the battlefield
If only we had 1 more ODT
We do have cs that hasn't been applied because of limitations so if they did join we'd be able to give them a full ship
But that's still up to you guys
well that's true, we do need to scout it ahead to see if we can safely set up there. But if TF3 becomes operational, that should help with scouting, no?
Strat movement is the slowest ship in the TF/BG defines the TF/BG's speed. That speed is (I think) how many strat-zones a TF/BG can move in one turn, around the planet's space.
Now that shack's ship is in play, it gives a lot of breathing room
what do you mean exactly? Simm's destoryer will already be full, we have more crew that hasn't put in their CS yet
Just making sure I wasn't aware
ah, no problem
we still have a few more crew that haven't registered on the list, so that's why
But we have an almost empty cruiser now
There's no maximum crew, but there is a minimum requirement, hence the moving around
Given our infantry count, I'm not worried about the minimum 
but you thought that shack would be able to fill that up himself, correct? (by bringing on more crew)
would he be happy with more crew?
Well definitely keep fluffle in mind if you guys have a shortage on CS
Boy don’t we love some speculation around here😂
i which case, we did get an offer
Of course! We already sent a crew over to them 🙂
So the current fleet plan is TF3 recon, TF1 Space Superiority, and TF2 utility?
I know the rules. It just feels like we are working on a whole lot of assumptions how easy it will be to get from one place to another. For example maybe it will be better to have the airfield on the same map as the major frontline.
I still voted Cross Roads I just don’t feel confident in my own assessment yet
He was very helpful, we only had 3FS so we really needed an armory
TF2 "Logistics" ;p
I think we're also an orbital QRF
Yeah, delivering firepower!
Pain, supplies, medics, engineers...
Infantry to a location of your choosing within 1 round or your money back
i think crossroads was chosen because of the lack of info. its a central point, and we have like 3 or 4 QRF BG, so having the base in the middle lets all those groups quickly move around and resupply quick.
We have engineers, we have medics, we have mechs, we have PAI, we have infantry, we have bombers, we have hats, we have fighters
soldiers, bombers, fighters, you name it, we deliver it within a business week
If Ziyal is not overrun and it’s got a working space port, I see a lot of value in landing there
Mass assumption at this point is that Ziyal is heavily under siege or lost already
Ziyal is where we think the bots will be landing though
also most TF cant get there without burning LS
Want real bang for your buck? Call up the Atlas crews, and with instant supplies you'll never be stuck!
If we can contest it, it could cut off their forces on the rest of the planet
... They could just drop elsewhere...
It is natural chokepoint and will be essential to react to any hostile advance per air units. So yeah it has a high priority and will see a lot of traffic
I don't think they're as limited as we are
also, @atomic comet, did you see my message earlier?
My current bias is toward getting people down who will build airfields for poor HATs like me
Maybe? Assume no because I'm not sure which message
that would be the shovels
if you would mind moving to a different ship, so that Leveller and I can both be on the tripple s
I do agree with you about the timing of the airfield tho. IMO, we commit everything to secure a starport, since it lets the other 60% of our player base play the game. But after that first stop in Elim, i think going there is a great move.
Yeah I'm down for that.
there should be enough flightdecks to go around
Feel free to remove me and I'll add to another ship in just a bit
obviously down tho for whatever 😂
Sound logic
thanks, it's mostly because Leveller and I want to operate together, so being on the same ship makes sense and makes sure we aren't split between high and low orbit at any point unless deliberately planned.
Though, there's a non-zero chance that the planet is almost fully occupied by the time we arrive, with only Elim remaining partially out of toaster claws.
nah, there's no hurry, you can do that yourself when you have the time
otherwise our amount of HAT's gets messed up on the sheet
Though we can’t fight forward without back up so it also depends on what everyone else is doing
Yeah I am confident we will be fine after we are finally planetside. I mean we have more than one Bg that focussed on QRF and that should help a lot to keep the bots in check
i heard people say our info will be oudated by 3 weeks by the time we get there. If thats true, i would not be shocked if the entire system is overrun, and will have to fight through Field Nav 1 just to reach Elim. But again to me, even more important for the 3 TF and all the available BG that can deploy as an assault force to hit Elim.
Yes.
could it maybe instead be 3 weeks outdated for the main force, meanwhile because the forward forces arrive a week earlier for them it would only be 2 weeks?
I mean 2 weeks still isn’t anything worth really planning with😆
that's fair
yea think how fast we move
ah ok thank you
who knows, maybe the toasters burned through all their LS and can't move that quickly
your on the right side "known forces" but i didn't know where you were going so you aren't on the main map part yet
keep in mind, they dont operate like we do 😉 they arnt bound to TF/BG, and probably dont have LS.
if shovels are really commited to crossroads turn 1, then i think TF2/TF3 are really the only options who can run with them.
smh my head, ruining my stupid joke with facts and logics
I don’t think they are aiming for turn 1. They can build the airfield in one turn but I don’t think they are expecting to make it there immediately
Considering how far it is from Elim, it's probably best they don't make it turn 1
its called alternative facts if they dont align with your agenda 😉
If TF3 are going to be scouting, then we can escort the Shovels, at normal speed, to the Crossroads, getting more intel along the way.
Theferd? It's exactly 7
Oh, I thought Ferdsome was your callsign, because that's what you put on the signup sheet under callsign 😅
Nah I don't mind
Very gud
Nah that's the unit name
Ahhhh... I see XD
their ideal plan is deploy a ground recon force T1, and then go run around scouting space
Ok, I'm trying to treat my addiction, I'm logging off for a few hours. Play nice everyone :p
Alrighty
Fair enough
I should too XD
Have fun
And I will... at half past.
Fair enough, not much is happening besides TF3 trying to get enough stuff XD
And us reorganising with the additional ship
Baiee 👋
You too!
This info might be old though. Don't put too much stock in it
Ok
future reference around deploying and picking things back up
Also need to get the new Crew sheet in line with our old Crew sheet. With all of the movement I'm not sure they match anymore
They don't need to match
I think we'll mostly be ignoring the old one from now on
We should mark it as obsolete soon if so. The important part was tracking which ships had which modules
We'd need all module-carrying crew to check in and select their vessel
Mostly also waiting to see if we get some more crew from Shack joining
We’ll see
Hello Conko here currently in Victorum ive got a orbital drop pod system and and a heavy drop pod system if those are helpful upgrades for yall or need the crew for a ship I'm happy to move over, Victorum's got a pool of crew at the moment and all the ships can be staffed, happy to go wherever im needed most.
I’m not sure if we need more Drop Pods (of any kind), but I don’t know everything 😅
We've got two Heavy Pods right now, but no regulars
No regulars?
with a third, we could deploy our entire contingent of 2x PAI and 2x LMechs in one round
Nobody's declared that they've bought standard drop pods, it's just on the "someone will likely buy this later" list
So what they’re offering is what we need?
if Shack stay with us we already can, he has heavy drops too
yea, you ok crewing up on the Endurance for Captain Shack?
^^ ?
Did Shack buy regular drop pods?
Of course happy to go where im needed, nice to meet ya all
no the heavy ones. EDIT: he has not them on the ship, a crew has them
Right
oh? which crew is that? have they signed in on the doc?
Welcome aboard!
Firefox has the upgrade, and is listed on the Endurance
I think it is Shack
Oh, nvm 😆
add myself to crewing aye?
I do not see them on either of the "crewing" docs, just the duty roster, which is about stationing, not equipment owned
i thought that was his upgrade sorry, it was indeed bought by Shack then
all good, for Conko, your add-ons are perfect then!
Endurance is now an orbital dropship 😂
haha happy to help!
What's your Callsign Conko?
Oh Stout1 let me add that
Our private army grows larger!
there we are, a pleasure once again
Literally my dream ship. Ixen's PA will retire to captain one day, and bring sentient torpedos
aka drop pods and breaching pods
that would be amazing
a ship full of mean and lean mercs catapulted into an enemy ship
We do need them :p
maybe im daydreaming, but given the 3 LS the ship has, i think you can do some serious shenanigans with it
Hey, are you guys interesten in some transportation? I've signed up and wanted to see if I can offer a VTOL to a Battle group that isnt Storm
I wasn’t sure :p
That does put the Regular drop pods onto the Endurance, are the ODTs cool with that?
@sturdy dew @fast cobalt @Big Cheese (no tag?)
We’re a Task Force, so we’re in space, but I think we’re okay for transport (don’t quote me on that though 😅) :)
@wintry pawn
oh yeah as long the captain is fine with it. I'll say let's find another ODT
We've been floating the idea of adding a VTOL bay, but it'll be up to the captains, so not sure yet
what a cool thing this is
We don't have a VTOL bay, but we are planning on adding one!
So you're welcome to join I suppose
Are we? Cool
I should stop answering questions because I seem to not know anything XD
Originally we weren't, but then we were, and I think now we definitely are with the Endurance giving us a bit more room
What's up?
Moving to the Endurance, if that’s okay?
You cool crewing up the Endurance when you're not orbital dropping?
Yeah that's fine.
What do I have to do?
Change where you’re crewing on the docs
or just say yes, and I'll do it for you
So I then suppose i will enter Atlas?
Please do.
Yes, welcome aboard!
Thank you!
Welcome to the “Logistics” Task Force :D
We should still have some crew who have some things yet to choose, so we should be able to get a VTOL bay for you
welcome mate
Which means we can support two VTOLs
Indeed
Thank you for having me join you
Though we'll probably end up only having one
But I think we should limit ourselves to one in case there are drawbacks for having two 😅
You're welcome, and welcome to "logistics"
I think that was just fluff
There’s only so much I can repair as the sole engineer
Hopefully
Though who knows, maybe we'll chance upon an engineer looking for somewhere
still got a few days right? yeah fingers crossed
Oh boy i sure am excited to finally do something
Yes, there are other, more important things to do first
Did you sign up on the google doc?
Btw, remember to join on the doc that's in the pins
lmao, we gotta stop saying the same thing at the same time
great minds and all that
Or fools seldom differ ;p
the singular brain cell is a genius because it cant know any better
True XD
haha well maybe that's a bit arrogant, heheh
can i just say this is such an awesome visual
I like to think that it's great minds :p
Not really, it’s like how I’m immortal until evidence contradicts.
yeah!
Hopefully
food time, pleasure to meet yall speak later
My mind is great! Great at jumping to the wrong conclusions.
Pleasure to meet you too
Damn, same :p
Welcome to the party
We have so much alcohol because we have all the supplies
I'm hopping off for a while, but feel free to ping me if you need me, I'll be around
Damn, we have a lot of space now it seems
Yes
I worked we could have 20 LS, though now 18
Added a list of what we need and what we want to the side of the sheet
Brilliant
Might need one of the HATs to also move over the the Endurance since as Ferdy moved, not only did our mech bay get moved, but also a flight deck
So now I've put myself into the list
Could we pin the list?
Are we actually doing alright on LS now?
We currently have 10
So yeah, I'd say so
Niiice
Oh, I thought there was a brand new one and I had to sign up again
The only new thing is the new crew tab in the document
So much nicer to use than our old one
Agreed
Do we have any damage control stations?
Nope, another would be nice module. I just don't know what we have left for CS
if your sheet marked as new is accurate you have 6 cs left for picket line, 2 for triple s, and 2 left for endurance
It is accurate
And we need a VTOL bay and a flight deck, so that ends up giving us 8 CS empty
And I think we wanted second orbital pods and a scanner
So we've definitely got space for a damage control station
Assuming we have enough crew
That's fantastic to hear. We may also want to consider arming ourselves more. Just in case
Wait, there's also scanners
Yeah, might be a good idea to get some guns
Considering we only have a HMG and autocannon right now
and fighters and bobmers for protection
I suppose so
But can't hurt to add another gun or two to our ships
Since we still have about 6 CS left, assuming we can get enough crew to fill it up with things
A repair arm and kit bays would be nice as well
I like all the Christmas shopping, but don't forget we need all the ls we can get.
Ten is definitely a number though
But more is better
Yeah
I'd probably say trying to get an extra 3 or 4 LS would be good
Atleast 2 more
I am an engineer, so I think I can repair ships from within, but I'm not entirely sure
You can but you need a Repair kit still I believe
There’s only one of each in all of Armco atm and it’s in victorum
So perhaps we should get one as the logi team 😅
So I guess we’re doing defense thru killing them faster than we can take damage 😬
We're also the second largest TF afaik
A couple repair bays and an arm would be good
Yes
What are they for?
Fixing orbitals
If it's good enough for the academy, it's good enough for me 😉
Do we really need the arm? I guess it allows the other orbitals not to need the DC Team
If the PL can spare the CS, I think it (as our most defensive ship) should have the Repair arm :p
With how many ships we have, having one repair ship would be very helpful
Arms can repair any ship, whereas the DC team can only repair their own, right?
So the arm is just a lot more flexible, and adapted to our task
DC team is for ships planning to be in prolonged firefights
Which we definitely don't want to do
Agreed, so we should add a repair arm if we can.
Then I can man that as the engineer :D
So repair arm and Repair Kit Storage?
Arms specifically only repair other ships, but so long as we’re not the ship needing it that’s probably best suited for our build
Probably
TF3 can rendezvous with us if they get engaged and we can repair them
Or TF1, but they've got their own repair options
But also if any of our ships get hit in low orbit
My main worry is that we can't resupply the repair kits. Which means we can only repair another orbital twice
just gotta keep an eye on the emergency situations
wait
one repair kit repairs one (1) hit point?
and repair kit storage TWO?
I'm gonna be a negative nancy again, but that seem like a complete waste
you use up two cs for the ability to repair two hit points
Yeah, it seems only worth it if you specialize a ship as a repair ship for a task force
yeah
oh man, this is gonan be great. w/ the Endurance launching with us we have so much many more CS and LS
depends on how much LS we would be willing to swap for orbital survivability
losing an orbital is an expensive endeavor
2 CS for +3 hits.
DCT + Repair kit storage
but only on your own orbital then
which is fine imo, if you're playing an orbital planning to get into fights
not worth it for a supply group
a destroyer would be a 6 rec loss minimum
loosing an orbital is very expensive, that's for sure
If we had another cruiser (and enough crew) full of CS we could kit it out with arms and kits galore that would be amazing but just throwing it on doesn't seem to give as much as it'll cost
Hopefully Victorum handles any big space flights
Yep, we support the front line but we aren't the front line
Agreed, good night, have fun :D
so the 32nd will be aboard the endurance for the drop?
im just getting here so there is so much to catch up on right now
Yes, if you're ok with that
fine with me
Excellent
i know we've been discussing scanner(s), but has any discussion happened around comms intercept? can we even parse bot comms?
We'd need a scanner for the comms intercept to work right?
i think so, yeah.
they don't have to be on the same ship necessarily, but yea
Sounds like things are moving right along here.
For sure!
I noticed my crew if filling out on the doc! NICE!
We've been crewing you up, yea! Got a couple fleet crew with a bunch of upgrades
The Endurance is basically a super dropship
Sweet! I'm happy to retrofit the bays into whatever we think we need. I will mostly be busy working coordination. So the endurance will be sticking with the TF and going with the group.
hell yea sir
and if we have crew with kit thats perfect.
We picked up a VTOL and are looking at Sensors
Sensors are nice High Orbit support.
I expect you all to do some heavy Helldivers roleplaying
Comms intercept as well if you double down. We can scan 1 target, then comms intercept and figure out what its next move will be.
But thats easy 2 slots. So.. no pressure.
Probably better to run more logi that such direct support.
combine all that with the PAI on the Picket, we can drop a small army anywhere in 30 minutes or your money back
🤷🏻
Hows are Deployment Capablity looking?
I have a friend who's ship crew that I'll be getting his upgrades on here in the next hour or so. He'd probably go comms intercept
We're looking chunky for drop pod capability on the endurance based on the doc! 😄
Oh heads up. Fleet Engineers managed to double our VTOL capabity per Bay.
Just don't let the Merc Board know we're totally not going by SOP.
a second standard Drop Pod might be worth it, moreso if we can find one more ODT
Just gotta hope nobody shoots us right? Lol
Total Unit capacity is:
6 Frontline Infantry
3 Support Infantry
2 LMs
3 Combat Aircraft
4 HATs
is our onboard DC
If we're looking to deploy a battlegroup specifically. We should see what they will likely have and see how quickly we can deploy them to the field.
Do we have any ODT battlegroups?
I wonder how quickly we could fire them at the planet surface from the cargo bays.
Redwall is huge, over 45 members last I saw. Obviously not all infantry though. Got to sacrifice a lot of LS to move them
Sounding like.. if we secure the capital its going to get super busy on the ground with so many battlegroups deploying. Having a battlegroup farther afield dropable at a moments notice would be super useful.
I'm seeing very little drop troops overall
If we bring a BG we might want to do Flying Shovels. Smaller and engineer focused. They plan to go straight to Crossroads and start digging in deep. The expected front line
We've been pretty hesitant to sack the LS for a BG.
Flying Shovels is carrying themselves I think.
6ODTs across the whole campaign
They have a fleet of HATs deploying from the Ring Gate
PAI can also orbital drop
I want to get them in since they promised airfields
only in the heavy pods though
12 of them. So 18 orbital drop units overall
yea, having more than one Drop Pod (regular) on a ship might not be optimal here
True I thought more general the ability to drop and didn't consider the difference in equipment. Though then Light Mechs are also drop pod capable
Issue is I don't see a way to get them there. If we burn an LS we can get there but we might be pushing into the center of a hostile planet without knowing what's already there.
Have we determined if we're trying to push in with the early group? I don't even know if we can
Right, if we rush in ahead of our Fleet and there are enemy orbitals there, we're screwed
I presume we'd be second wave with people like Victorum and Fluffle out front
My PA infantry might actually get to touch grass this time, not just guard the endurance from boarding and then counter-board the enemy (not that that wasn’t a lot of fun)
I think we can get to Elim without burning an LS. Our troops would be useful for Storm Blessed and we can secure the Starport
Hopefully we are second wave.
I’m sure we could find a place where dropping a bunch of dudes right on top of the enemy could be useful
having the option to drop a PA/ODT group would be a great option.
Big strength of Orbital Drop Pods is they can't be intercepted by AA.
To small, To Fast.
Mmmmmm I hate AA. It will literally be the death of me
I think that's plan B, right? (regarding Elim/Crossroads question)
Plan A: Follow fleet to Elim until better intel.
If clear, proceed to Crossroads and support, if not,
Plan B: Stay at Elim and support Starport secure.
I’m assuming at least TF3 or TF1 will be ahead of you guys in getting there so you’ll have plenty of intel
since we are supply focused. How we doing on that front?
Did TF3 get enough people though? TF1 doesn't want to burn the LS to rush Elim last I heard.
currently 10 LS before final upgrads
10 supply currently, was it?
I’m sure if they haven’t already that they will before we deploy. We are kind of counting on them for the Storm escort depending on how the vote goes😅
If they don’t meet the requirements then we lose Storm’s speedy escort to Elim as well as Rabbit’s transportation so we will be deploying probably one or two turns later
Oof and we really really want at least one group to rush in and get us Intel
Burn one to juice em up
I do think TF3 will be fine by next week though so I’m not super worried about it yet
is that not what being support is all about 😉
I think they have to have the ability to house the extra LS. Not sure though
Yeah, plenty of time to shanghai some people
Oh! But we can give it to them after they burn it as a replacement!
First one’s free?
Here's 1 LS, please go tank bullets for us
Then you gotta pay
Starting the LS casino aboard the endurance
I'm pretty sure we can accept that offer.
I'll ask the rest of victorum
We're happy to give our bullets to the ships with the big guns
You know what they say about the Captain of a ship with a big gun, right?
absolutely nothing
I’d assume they also have equally big beards or elaborate moustaches
The bigger the boom
Interesting how our “supply” fleet ended up with such a big combat element
A lot of mechs and power armour infantry for a bunch of cargo ships
We're the richest in the fleet and got the toys to match
It takes a lot of bullets and beans to feed an army
guns and butter
Sure hope we don’t mix those up during re-supply.
That's a very 40K kind of thing to have happen
so far your idea is looking promising, most of them are okay to go fast if they dont have to pay for it 😂
Haven't heard back from a captain yet, but most here have been OK with that too.
Yeah, I want to hear from the captains too before bringing it up to Storm Blessed
3 of our 4 captains have giving the all clear as long as you're sure it's okay
yea they seemed shock you would part with a LS
🤣
i dont have any say in it, but i think its a good idea all around.
Okay, we're having a poll about this, we'll know in 24 hrs
We still need final permission from the captains but it'll be good to know TF1 is open to the idea
Your captains I assume?