Task force 1 - Victorum: Comms

[fierce sentinel]

I fear for the next big campaign if this one succeeds, don't think we will have a lot of crew since people want to switch from crew to captain.

[hard sleet]

so paint was being weird so I used roll 20 instead. Behold. The formation I was thinking of. Probably not the best but just an idea

[lyric turret]

If that's the case I might be able to buy drop pods and continue along the combat medic chain

[rapid sorrel]

The good side of that is that crew specifically won't be as necessary if captains can fill out more of their ships as well

Just units in general

[fierce sentinel]

don't ship have a minimum crew amount they need to have or could those crew slots be filled with non crew units?

[hard sleet]

they can be filled with non crew

[lyric turret]

Not if they freighter rush

[hard sleet]

20 freighter TF

[rapid sorrel]

Crew is just the best because of the CS filling

[merry prawn]

So y'all have decided to spend the 1 LS to get there turn 1?

[quasi crown]

but ground units may take their relevant upgrades so who knows

[fierce sentinel]

That good.

[rapid sorrel]

The bigger TF2 gets, the more likely it is

[fierce sentinel]

Interesting to see how it plays out then if non crew starts manning ships

Well I'm slowly preparing to captain a bigger ship if we win this one. Got already 4 friends lined up that are interested to join in. Just trying to convince them to already join this campaign.

[lyric turret]

Might ask for more marine based specialization/boarding actions could be the way to get more people to join the fleet.

[quasi crown]

or gundam upgrades for mechs lol

[mossy flare]

I'm aiming to make marines, looks like the best bet is PAI with ballistic shields and melee weapons

But that's expensive

[quasi crown]

Let us have newtypes lol

[quasi crown]

with some breaching pods 😍

[lyric turret]

Combat medic or two following up with the interrogation spec

[amber dragon]

Does reloading a fighter take supply from the carrier?

[dusky dagger]

does that mean i could field multiple units from my company if i have them?

[quasi crown]

the carrier has to have an LS but it isn't consumed

[rapid sorrel]

I mean, even if they die, they earn money

[rapid sorrel]

No, 1 unit from your company at a time

[dusky dagger]

ok

[rare lantern]

Not really, the TF the carrier is in has to be tagged as "supplied" tagging a TF as supplied costs 1 LS per 2 rounds. As long as the TF is supplied infinite small and medium supply can be pulled from it and weapons and aerospace can be reloaded

[dusky dagger]

we aso dont have to be supplied every turn if we need to conserve LS

[fierce sentinel]

true, just have to convince them to join a battlegroup or task force. since I'm already crew of a ship.

[rapid sorrel]

It costs LS to supply the entire ship, which then lets you resupply everything for free for a limited time

[lyric juniper]

Destroyers are ironically kinda the orbital equivalent of a submarine

[rapid sorrel]

Which means we should split our aerospace into 2 squadrons that can rotate resupplies in those 2 turns

[stray moss]

Them together with flamethrower combat engineers are probably the best for ship combat

[rapid sorrel]

PAI with shields and melee, backed by flamethrowers and combat medics

That would be the wrong ship to fuck with

[calm talon]

I'm sure an engineer having infinite flamethrower supply on a friendly ship won't have any consequences at all

[lyric turret]

That's the neat part we yeet them to other ships

[rapid sorrel]

As long as the boarders don't get anywhere near anything actually flammable, which is the PAI's job, than I don't think it actually would

If you just cook them at the bulkhead

[lyric turret]

And you probably want destroyer at biggest so you have the speed to get in and out.

[quasi crown]

I love this idea so much, I will make the destroyer next campaign and do it

[lyric juniper]

Life support stress test

[lyric turret]

I'll be the combat medic should have enough req by then to have the interrogation

[rapid sorrel]

Those poor survivors

[drowsy lion]

Bad news:

Shack said that if we want more intel, we need to, "Make a fast Taskforcee and go get said intel."

[lyric turret]

Quick hide the war crime planner.

[quasi crown]

We can ask one of the other TFs to gather intel

they are both faster than us

[rapid sorrel]

What war crime planner?

[crude slate]

Quick question for y'all: to what are you currently designating your LS?

[uncut bear]

TF3 is supposed to be fast right?

[quasi crown]

refueling and rearming our fighters and bombers

and reloading our guns

We are not a deployment TF

[lyric turret]

#1382036960356597963 message

[rapid sorrel]

PV's are all going to ammo, and timing @lyric juniper 's return with such action

[rapid sorrel]

That was a joke, don't link that XD

[lyric turret]

Too late

[lyric turret]

At least it's not in general

[rapid sorrel]

If we're not getting any more intel, then we have to be ones first out of the gate

[fluid cave]

@zealous palm
You wanted to be a TACCOM?

Does anyone else besides @north crown want to be a TACCOM.
Yakove and I are happy to help and answer questions if needed. You can always ping us if you need something.

[quasi crown]

I'm willing

[clever axle]

@fluid cave do you think the Pearl would be better suited in a different TF or should my gun and either pods or cargo stay here

[fluid cave]

Your equipment needs to move with your unit.
All of our orbitals are full in CS.
But yeah it might be better in TF2 or 3

[rapid sorrel]

T3 probably needs the most people

[rare lantern]

I mean we'll have you if you want to stay, but you'll get to use your pods more in TF 2 or 3 I think

[rapid sorrel]

2 does want pods

[quasi crown]

#meta-comm message

[zealous palm]

Yah I still want to TACCOM

[fluid cave]

Either of you care which of you is primary?

[zealous palm]

Though like I said to Yakove, it's probably a good idea to have two, in case of summer vacations, or emergencies. I can be primary, I have nothing planned for the next 4 months other than work.

I'll need to grab a paint program, and symbols, but I've done map editing, and stuff like it before, so I know the software. It's just not installed currently.

[zealous palm]

Ok, it looks like popular vote were clearing the sky's over the spaceport.

[quasi crown]

I don't care, Kaelnovar spoke first so They can have it if they want

Its funny to have Kael and Cael as Taccoms lol

[quasi crown]

I am in summer classes which are async. The only thing I have planned is a 4th of july trip

[solar ravine]

Funny and confusing 😅

[quasi crown]

I mean a misspell will get one of us lol

[fluid cave]

Okay: @zealous palm will be the Primary and @quasi crown will be our secondary. Yakovee and I can fill in if both of you are busy.

Send your msgs in #1382781756989767692 Saying you’re from TF Victorum

[zealous palm]

What's really funny, is I pronounce it, and treat it like your Cael

Roger roger

[rapid sorrel]

We have to in order to let everyone else land

[zealous palm]

Yah

[solar ravine]

Anyway, since we're going to Elim, me and Knightmare are gonna be of limited usefulness for any ground attack.
Last thing shack said about our torps was that they're strictly anti-orbital.

[covert palm]

Well there is high orbit above Elim which I assume means we can get into an orbital fight there

[fluid cave]

Do torps replace your normal bombs?

[solar ravine]

Yep

[rapid sorrel]

Also new Primo Victoria lore drop

Since it's an old mothballed Venator refit into an Armco Battleship, it had a bunch of old P2 Clone armor, and while we may not all be Jango Fett sized, the offical Primo Victoria crew uniform is whateverr parts of clone armor you can cut and weld to fit you

[quasi crown]

From his description I assume we will be forcing our way through a heavy Orbital defense fleet first

[solar ravine]

We could try and lob our torps at tanks, and I have one-use defense flares I can pop off.

[quasi crown]

I think we still need to wait and see before making plans that deep

[rapid sorrel]

I think bombers should be on catch-all duty, aiming to finish off anyone who limps away from MBC range

Because anyone who hard burns out of MBC range, exposes their engines to a point

[quasi crown]

It will be very dependant on the situation when we arrive

[rapid sorrel]

Very true

[drowsy lion]

We have some AT ability (1MBT, 2 AV-Missiles)

[quasi crown]

I'm gonna clean up the "depreciated" tab on the sheet and turn it into a space for order submission and tracking

unless that will affect calcs on the main sheet

[zealous palm]

Hum, Cael, idea

[quasi crown]

Go for it

[solar ravine]

No, I've not done any multi-sheet shenanigans yet.

[zealous palm]

Make a table, new tab, that has each ship, and their crew, give it room for order next to it, and round count at the top

[fluid cave]

Just remember you’ll need to use the orders we have here. But go for it.

[quasi crown]

Thats what I was gonna do with the other tab since it has all the ships and crews already

[zealous palm]

Like Primo-Vista --- Round 1 --- Round 2
Name 1 --- Order 1
Name 2. --- Order 1

Yah, this is for Cael and myself to fill out, to help keep track.

Since realistically only the captains, and fighters/bombers will have movement orders, everyone else is just going to be action style.

[rapid sorrel]

Pilots of capitals will have movement style

[zealous palm]

Captain = Pilot lol, unless they hand that off

[quasi crown]

Which we can just indicate on the sheet

[slow whale]

Woah, you guys see the Midround Event channel?

[steep jetty]

Yeah

[zealous palm]

But yah, 4 Orbital movement, and like 10-12 bomber/fighter

[rapid sorrel]

I was thinking about doing that, but I don't know what would happen if I'm in like a gun section, that gets hit, since I only have 1 FS

[quasi crown]

Also did pearl officially move TFs?

[rapid sorrel]

Oh boy, I can't see anything wrong happening here XD

[zealous palm]

You die, and the battleship is lost. Yah that's why I was saying captain = pilot, cause shack said unless there is a boarding action that no one is responding to, the captain is on the bridge, so they don't get insta killed. Though supposedly damage, and FS losses from fire and stuff, is going to work differently.

[clever axle]

The Pearl is officially switching to TF 2

[quasi crown]

thank you

let me know when you have copied what you need from the sheet

[lyric turret]

God speed Pearl

[rare lantern]

The only things that can kill crew are boarders and fire, both of which are avoidable

[quasi crown]

@zealous palm I am thinking each captain is responsible for their crew in terms of getting orders in. then we can get the full ship action summary.

That way we can just ping captains

[lyric turret]

Keep it contained

[glad flume]

I’ve been out of it for the last day with work. So we have 3 fully crewed battlecruisers and a battleship? Sick. We’re going to superior all the space lmao.

What are the other TF’s lookin like?

[quasi crown]

Also since we are just waiting for an engi I'd like us to start cleaning up the sheet, have all the aircraft input their equipment and the like

[ancient jolt]

We're not looking super duper, but we're half decent atm (TF2)

[quasi crown]

They are starting to get together. TF 2 has 3 orbitals I believe and just need crew, TF 3 needs crew and orbis

[lyric turret]

We aren't the only space assets so improvement

[zealous palm]

That could work, since realistically the captains would be coordinating with the crew, to fire, and reload, and stuff. Poke Cancer-Mancer and the other 3 captains please, and see their opinion.

[lyric turret]

Devils advocate do we split if say a space station needs to be board by the marines?

[north crown]

Do you mean you still need to say we are available to back up TACCOM or just those two?

[zealous palm]

Unfortunately the most we can do splitting wise, is sortie the bombers and fighters to help others.

[north crown]

I gotta go back to work. Ping me if you guys need anything.

[quasi crown]

@rapid sorrel @slow whale @glad flume @astral tapir Kaelnovar and I are wanting to delegate responsibility for making sure your crew is timely in their orders to you captains. That way we only have to ping you if we haven't gotten all the orders in for your respective ships. Does that work for you?

[pine ferry]

I suspect our sortie will be a combined cas/ aa mission with potentially the hat dropping off small or large supply

[teal rampart]

Don't forget our glorious Light Freighter

[rapid sorrel]

Wish we could make threads in this

[rapid sorrel]

Cheese is in TF2

[quasi crown]

same

I was thinking DM groups could be used

[zealous palm]

He's moving to TF2

[teal rampart]

sad : (

[quasi crown]

They need him more than us tbf

[rapid sorrel]

I think you responded to the wrong message, but are we allowed to use DMs for this?

[quasi crown]

I did reply to the wrong thing lol my bad

[north crown]

We can ping them in chat I don’t think they would want us using dms

[slow whale]

I'm certainly fine with helping out getting orders in. Was already planning on helping. Got to do at least some work for RPing an Carrier Captain doing ATC

[quasi crown]

I was assume it isn't allowed

[rare lantern]

We're supposed to keep all campaign communication in this server, no moving to DMs

[zealous palm]

So orders will be posted in a taskforce based order channel, to be created. The idea is the Captain should be coordinating with their crew anyway, for firing arcs, and stuff, so they can ping their crew in this channel if someone forgets to post an order.

[quasi crown]

I think to help ensure everyone has a job on the carrier, @slow whale you can assign CAS/ATC for various sorties or flight ops to the crew you have who aren't busy

[zealous palm]

As long as the Captains get their orders in to us, we can assign targets to be shot, and actions, afterwards, so they non movement orders could technically have 12 hrs or so extra, if needed. But not encouraged.

[slow whale]

Keep in mind for everyone. We will be on a pretty tight schedule with doing 2 turns a week. Planning some things in advance can help. Communication is key if you are running late. If you get pinged for orders, we just want you to be apart of the game and not be sent into the MIA void.

[rapid sorrel]

I don't think we even target, we just shoot, because if there's 2 enemies in range, then they both get hit, and so on

[zealous palm]

See, that's the question if orbitals can target or not. We might be able to, since it's not like ground combat.

[quasi crown]

Thats a good question for shack

[zealous palm]

Posted it on shack chat

[rare lantern]

According to the core rules, Orbitals use the same rules for combat as ground troops unless there is an exception listed in the Space Combat: Orbitals section, so most likely we cannot target

[quasi crown]

He said that we just need to share intentions of the gun crew

[zealous palm]

Yah, from the sounds of it, we can target. He said to share your intentions with your TAC-COMs, so this TACCOM says you can target lol.

[quasi crown]

I am in agreement

[rapid sorrel]

I'm like 90% sure that just means we can only fire, but if you guys say so XD

[quasi crown]

#shack-chat message

[rapid sorrel]

I concede

[zealous palm]

Lol

[quasi crown]

It probably means that the intent may not be the outcome tbf

[calm talon]

So, um. What's stopping us from using a magical spreadsheet to coordinate orders? Or did I miss this somewhere in the chat

[quasi crown]

We are making it currently

[zealous palm]

Ok I'm about to head home from work, then I have to mow before it rains in a couple of hours. So I'll check back later tonight.

[lyric turret]

I mean chances are we are gonna try focus fire anyways.

[heady void]

ok i have been reall bussy what did i miss (i cant read all the stuff)

[rapid sorrel]

We're hard pushing Elim to escort Storm to take a spaceport and guide the rest of our forces in

[dusky dagger]

Pearl is moving to tf 3 i think

[quasi crown]

Not a lot, me and Kaelnovar are the taccoms, pearl moved to TF Atlas

Currently setting up an orders Spreadsheet

[heady void]

i see thanks

[quasi crown]

@zealous palm want to check out what I've done so far when you get a chance

[dusky dagger]

Looks good as far as i can tell do we need a section for ship/fleet movements?

[rapid sorrel]

Cael and Kael are working on that now

[dusky dagger]

Ok ill leave them to it

As fleet crew what can i spend my speed on if ive used my primary to fire the MBC?

[fluid cave]

We are still avaible but I think Shack only wants 2 names.

[slow whale]

Not much currently I believe. In the first orbital test there was interior that you had to move between, which he talked about coming back in the future, but obviously not in this campaign.

[slow whale]

Make sure people know they still need to put their orders in on the actual orders channel when we get it. We can use the sheet to organize, but the Discord orders are to make sure there are no discrepancies as there are time stamps and there is also no editing of orders. If you need to change it, delete the old order and re submit.

[quasi crown]

Task Force Victorum: Do not edit the order's tracker. It is only for TACCOMs usage

please pin this someone with perms to do so

[zinc spruce]

Please ping me once first things are do (if I need to do anything)
I'm busy

[quasi crown]

plenty of time til then don't worry

[rapid sorrel]

@quasi crown You should also add a section for whether the order is properly submitted or not

[quasi crown]

What do you mean? Like if we have to MIA order them or something or error reported in order?

[rapid sorrel]

Like an easy to see check mark list for if the order is properly submitted so it's easiest to see who needs to be pinged last minute

[astral tapir]

Pretty late to this but yeah I was planning on doing that already as it seems logical rather than TacComs trying to babysit all 30+ of us.

[quasi crown]

@slow whale I leave it up to you on whether or not to delegate local air ops ATC to one of your crew, but each sortie will have a separate ATC that is responsible for their flight's orders being sent in timely and without error

[fluid cave]

I can handle ATC for sorties.

[quasi crown]

I think we will determine the ATC when sorties are deployed

We have 12 planes which is cool

[slow whale]

I don't think we will be doing too many sorties. Most of our time should be on the same map, but even then I don't think the sorties will be too much extra work just a separate map for a turn or two.

[edgy harbor]

I've checked out the other task forces and unless I'm mistaken, it seems we are still the only one focused on space combat. Task Force 2's ship loadouts seem to be more oriented towards transportation & carrier operations whilst from what I understand task force 3's sole purpose is to transport the rabbit battle group? I may be mistaken though, but if I'm not then the space targets are our sole responsibility, it will be up to us to keep the skies clear.

[quasi crown]

I'm just a firm believer in delegation lol

[fluid cave]

We'll be fine

[quasi crown]

This was expected and honestly I'm happy to see the other TFs getting built up

we do still need an eng for exodia

[edgy harbor]

Yeah, at the very least if they focus on being the public transportation, we can focus more on blowing up bot ships. (Since we won't have as many requests to act as transportation)

[ancient jolt]

You are correct for us (Atlas) to an extent. We're more focused on having as much LS as possible for logi purposes. Our troops are only to secure key targets as we deem fit. We're not carrying troops from a BG.

[rapid sorrel]

We should be able to push our way all the way to the end, as long as we're smart

Shack knows that we're the only 4 ships really geared towards naval combat, and even then the Primo Victoria has more guns than pretty much every other Armco vessel combined, the bot force should be calibrated at least semi-fairly as long as we're smart

[astral tapir]

If we run out of ammo we will throw zip bombs at them.

[rapid sorrel]

I do expect at least 1 battleship (or something equivalent) capital bot ship to slug it out with though

[edgy harbor]

So you guys are gonna be the logistics team then? Aight, well we do our best to make sure to keep the bot warships away from your operations

[edgy harbor]

Nothing like a good old battleship vs battleship broadside exchange to cause maximum devastation

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-venator-providence-gif-21667318

[rapid sorrel]

The Gualara my beloved

[quasi crown]

So, I need main sheet updated with equipment for 8/12 of our Aero units

Get ready to be pinged

[heady void]

like i said before i can help if need be

[rapid sorrel]

And if they ignore us, we're gonna tear a hole through their backline so big they're gonna be operating on Windows Vista

[edgy harbor]

Hell yeah, Veni. Vidi. Vici.

[quasi crown]

wait, can I assume those who haven't put equipment listings on their plane do not have anything beyond the basic loadout?

[fluid cave]

Yes

[quasi crown]

Ok, not gonna do 8 pings then

[fluid cave]

But as a Taccom you will need to check we all have the equipment that we say we do

(Use /company show)

You don't need to for a while

[quasi crown]

Want to take a look at the order tracker and see if I'm missing anything?

[edgy harbor]

Wait, would it be possible to have the Victoria's Port & Starboard MBCs be mounted at front-right and front-left instead of left and right? It would mean that we have a larger rear blindspot BUT it would also mean we can shoot all 4 cannons at any target we happen to be looking at.
Or are we just limited to front, left & right?

[quasi crown]

I think its just limited to the 4 cardnial directions

if they had arc then you could do what you're talking about

[edgy harbor]

Shame

[rapid sorrel]

4 cardinals, I asked about that a while ago 😆

[edgy harbor]

damn

[edgy harbor]

[fluid cave]

Add a thing to ATC side (Is landed)

[rapid sorrel]

I still have the reference I used

[edgy harbor]

Yeah, it would've been very neat if we could had done it like that reference, I guess at least this way we have more coverage

[rapid sorrel]

Whichever way they go, they're eating at least 3 MBCs

[edgy harbor]

I find it funny that the Victoria has 2 captains (which has literally 0 effect gameplay wise)

[quasi crown]

You're the xo lol

[rapid sorrel]

It does, technically you can die in one hit

If a fire starts, you're the first to go

[edgy harbor]

Right 🤣

[rapid sorrel]

Would you be angry if I asked you to be the main person to do oddjobs? (Reloading, scanning, etc.) So that the likelihood of you being in one place is low?

[edgy harbor]

That would be fine by me

As much as it would be funny to be a one man gunnery crew (Mr. John Gunnery himself), it would be better for me to probably be moving around or helping at the bridge

[lyric turret]

I would suggest everyone adjust server nicknames to show where they are stationed.

[drowsy lion]

I did [Name] [BG#] [Unit] [Callsign]. You can probably adapt that for TF use.

[rapid sorrel]

I was thinking of getting a Primo Victoria role sheet going

Since we have more guns than crew, I'm thinking it'd be easiest to have people "Claim" certain weapons so knowing who needs to man what is easier

[edgy harbor]

Well, consider me Vice Captain of the Primo Victoria for this campaign then

[rapid sorrel]

What's the term? First man or something?

[edgy harbor]

First mate?

[rapid sorrel]

First mate, that's it

[edgy harbor]

The Starscream to your Megatron

[lyric turret]

XO if going more military

Executive Officer

[rapid sorrel]

Take your pick Hose XD

[rapid sorrel]

I promise not to hit you...

..as much

[lyric turret]

Does he turn into a gun?

[edgy harbor]

Well, technically I can transform into a tank (between campaigns)

[fluid cave]

Found an Engineer

[cosmic ledge]

Hello I have engineer

[rapid sorrel]

We can load him into the cannon and see if it shoots

[quasi crown]

Awesome! if you don't mind putting yourself on the sheet for exodia

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XzG7yq6Qr-lA5loU09KXxV-rui1v7NVdYppsfyV802A/edit?gid=1304239885#gid=1304239885

[fluid cave]

I added em

[edgy harbor]

Excellent idea lord Cancer! (Starscream voice)

[cosmic ledge]

Please don’t put me in the cannon

[quasi crown]

Sweet, We don't really need to recruit for ourselves any more unless aviary wants an engi too

[rapid sorrel]

They may want one for quicker aerospace repair

[fluid cave]

I can move em over if needed

[quasi crown]

also the planes could land at exodia for repair, but the mechs can't move over

[fluid cave]

I can always undock as needed
But the Fighters repair when the rearm if we're suppled

[quasi crown]

and we have the most LS in the fleet

[fierce sentinel]

Do you think the engineer could help me set up a BBQ in the engines of Corvus Aurorae? I'm on aft point defence duty and if I got nothing to do I could set up an indoor cookout.

Just don't tell the captain

[lyric turret]

Just get that nice sear.

[fierce sentinel]

What about keeping some beers in the coolant for the engines?

[sinful latch]

I'm telling the captain.
...unless you save some for me

[lyric turret]

I mean I'm pretty much on fire watch to start.

[fierce sentinel]

Fine... now I just need to figure out how to fry something.

[edgy harbor]

Hello I'm (vice)Captain-

[quasi crown]

I am cursed with the knowledge that coolant is only cool in regards to the reactor (so its like hundreds of degrees)

[fierce sentinel]

So not for cold beers, but I can use it as a fryer then!

[fierce sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/chapelle-show-black-bush-panic-scram-gif-5629397

[sinful latch]

Saving some for you too

[edgy harbor]

Why thank you

[fierce sentinel]

Just don't check the Repair Kit Storage I brought for the Corvus Aurorae. I already lost half my drinking supplies bribing the Damage Control Team to use it as a stash and hide some cooking equipment in them.

[lyric turret]

Just hide it in my medical supply...I do

[fluid cave]

The RMC can get you some spare supplies. We've got everything in our cargo bay

[fierce sentinel]

I don't want you to accidently grab a spatula instead of scalpel

[lyric turret]

Talking bout booze. Good disinfectant.

[fierce sentinel]

I didn't know the RMC was also preparing for a BBQ?!?!

[steep jetty]

GN victorum

[fluid cave]

We keep everything on hand

We're a supply company after all

[jovial otter]

Currently pinned in #meta-comm

[dusky dagger]

Thanks, did manage to find it in the end.

[zealous palm]

That looks good to me, easiest way to track who submitted

[covert palm]

the uh

Corvus

has 1 arc mount that appears to be used on 2 MBC

[quasi crown]

good catch

I'm going to check their crew for a possible mount not listed

[calm talon]

no, that is correct

one is a regular MBC which is what the Arc module is for

the other is an Artillery MBC which comes with ARc for free

[quasi crown]

ohh

[edgy harbor]

Wait what?

[rapid sorrel]

Yerp

Arty crew MBC has a free mount that doesn't take CS

[edgy harbor]

Huh

[covert palm]

ah

[quasi crown]

neat

[rapid sorrel]

I need a full arty crew next time XD

[sinful latch]

Proof, btw

[edgy harbor]

Frrrrr

[covert palm]

Battleship with 7 Arc Battle Cannons

[sinful latch]

Eyup

[rapid sorrel]

I just realized

[covert palm]

2 facing left, 2 facing right, 3 forward

[rapid sorrel]

All this time I thought the BITE was mothballed after C2 but No....

[sinful latch]

this is why my Callsign might be Battery next campaign

[rapid sorrel]

She's evolved

[quasi crown]

destroyer w/2 arty MBCs 🤔

[rapid sorrel]

The true evolution of the SPG

6 ARC MBCs and 2 Cargo bays

[fierce sentinel]

Same thing with HMG's they get a free arc mount too!

[rapid sorrel]

3 Port, and 3 Star

All angled to shoot forwards as well

[quasi crown]

we should have recruited more artys lol

[rapid sorrel]

Wasn't a thing at the time

[quasi crown]

oh fair

[rapid sorrel]

It's relatively recent

[lyric juniper]

That took me way too long to understand, work took me out lol

[edgy harbor]

The arty MBC looks like just a straight up upgrade to the standard one? Damn, gotta take note of that.

[covert palm]

are there any other unit-specific upgrades to base ones?

[sinful latch]

They may end up changing it in the future. I'm going to enjoy it while I can

[rapid sorrel]

You could definitely ressuply at the aviary if it's in supply, but we are technically your home

[edgy harbor]

Wouldn't be surprised if that is so, as it stands it seems like it's straight up better to be an arty crew for the buffed MBC than a standard crew

[calm talon]

It would be really cool if every unit came with a unique upgrade to a base module. But also very complicated to balance

[covert palm]

and mechanical bloat

cause with the guns you can just add free firing arcs

[sinful latch]

Esp since it's repeatable right now

[covert palm]

and that doesn't add on new stuff

but with anything else you'd need a new upgraded version

[sinful latch]

I could have 4 Arc MBCs, and then just find crew to run them

So, for now, I'm using them, we'll see what happens in the future

[rapid sorrel]

Can the same arty unit buy multiple arc MBCs?

[sinful latch]

Yes 🙂

[rapid sorrel]

Yooooo

[sinful latch]

It's repeatable

For now, anyway

Thus, why I think it will get changed

TBF, I think I'm the only Arty with MBC this Campaign

Should check that

[rapid sorrel]

If it stays that way...

Would you like a permanent home on the Victoria?
🥺
👉 👈

[sinful latch]

Mayhaps...
Might run a DD with 2 vec bays and landing gear next camp, tho

[rapid sorrel]

🤣

[sinful latch]

You manage to not get blown up, and we'll talk

[rapid sorrel]

That's fair, our death is very likely

[sinful latch]

Also, I WAS going to get an SPG refit, but I don't know if I keep the MBC if I do

Since the MBC isn't available for SPGs

[rapid sorrel]

Weird

[sinful latch]

Nah, it makes sense

SPGs are MEANT to be on the ground

Whereas an arty crew as gunners makes sense

[calm talon]

Hmm. that's actually a question for our resident bot herder. What happens to upgrades of a unit that you refit

[rapid sorrel]

I mean, so is an artillery piece

[quasi crown]

probably go into your stockpile

[sinful latch]

Stockpile

That's what it is for

[calm talon]

as in, it does that automatically, right?

[sinful latch]

Nope

Gotta take the upgrade off

Keeps it safe if the unit dies

[calm talon]

Good luck getting a few hundred people to all remember to save their upgrades when refitting

[sinful latch]

So if you had an AA missile contract, but were going to do a boarding mission, you could leave it at home

[stray moss]

To be fair most people aren’t really going to upgrading a unit then refitting in to something else

[north crown]

Just got off work what have I missed

[edgy harbor]

Nuh uh! I must pay off my debt, hence we shall live

[stray moss]

And you can even put ships into it so you could have multi

[sinful latch]

Eh, you can pay it off with your tank

[quasi crown]

got a spreadsheet set up for turns, and exodia has an engi now

[edgy harbor]

How could you suggest such a thing?
/j

[north crown]

Any updates to our plans?

[quasi crown]

not at the moment

[sinful latch]

Bitch, you have an upgraded tank, I don't wanna hear it

[rapid sorrel]

Nothing beyond aiming for Elim and escorting Storm

[quasi crown]

though Fluffle and Atlas are coming together which is great

[north crown]

Which one was atlas was that TF 2 & 3?

[quasi crown]

2

3 is fluffle

[north crown]

Got it so those two combined then?

[quasi crown]

no

sorry I meant they are getting set up with enough crew and such by coming together

[north crown]

Ah that makes more sense

[quasi crown]

they both have 2 ships

sorry atlas has 3 now

[north crown]

Do they have enough crew to count as a task force?

[quasi crown]

uhh let me check

atlas does but fluffle doesn't yet

[north crown]

I’ll keep checking with them

Separate note I forget who the other TCO for us is but just lmk if you guys need anything me and cobalt are happy to help but wanted to let other people get experience if they hadn’t done it before

[quasi crown]

its Kaelnovar

Kael and Cael lol

[north crown]

lol

[fluid cave]

@brave cape are you okay if we move you to the Primo Victoria?
They have the least crew and with our engineer we'll be fine

[astral tapir]

Does the engineer have any electrical experience? We were trying to set up a merch booth in one of the cargo bays but the neon sign we got for it appears to have a different plug than the outlets.

[cosmic ledge]

I know how to set up Christmas lights how much harder can a neon sign be

[sinful latch]

...I am SO glad I'm not on that ship, now

[north crown]

If I see your lights go out I know who to blame

[astral tapir]

The plug looks like the nose from that one guy in Smiling Friends. We don't know what to do with that.

[cosmic ledge]

I am currently doing emergency repairs on a grill but you can go to the shop and requisition the use of a pair of needle nose pliers to bend the prongs to fit into the socket

[sinful latch]

twitches in Electrician

[quasi crown]

Uh, there is some blue smoke coming out of it now

[drowsy lion]

Not an electrician, but not a Darwin Award winner either.
I have one question:

WHY???

[fluid cave]

I regret my hire

[cosmic ledge]

Use some flex seal

[edgy harbor]

"Primo Victoria to Exodia, we just noticed a very bright flash emanate from your vessel, everything alright there? Over"

[quasi crown]

They had paperwork saying they graduated from the 1 week online engineering course

[cosmic ledge]

It was two weeks

With an in person training day

Just one

[sinful latch]

SO glad

[drowsy lion]

"VTOL Playtime Tango-Wun-Tree-Charlie to Exodia, concur with Primo Victorum -- OVER"

[cosmic ledge]

Only the best and cheapest for Armco

[fluid cave]

Captain it's not my fault if things break anymore

[sinful latch]

At least you can leave if it gets worse

[drowsy lion]

The poor Adj/QM/Damage Control Officer on your ship will have to fill out all the paperwork-

[fluid cave]

Noo that's me

[cosmic ledge]

I can assure you that you made the right choice in hiring me

[astral tapir]

A deckhand tried to splice it directly into a breaker box. Did not go well. We will resort to a chalkboard.

[quasi crown]

In other news we now have a need for a new deckhand

[astral tapir]

The PEC company was only recently formed and the conglomerate has not had enough time to hold us to the same standards of our sister companies.

[astral tapir]

He only has minor heart issues. Chalk it up as non service related

[quasi crown]

CCI would like to remind PEC that the contract states that CCI is not responsible for any actions committed by employees subcontracted out to the Exodia

• unless said actions involve commendation or recompense to Cold Cross Industries

[lyric turret]

Why is everyone coming to medical

[astral tapir]

Unfortunate series of personal injuries that are not covered by our on duty insurance policy.

The captain however will personally cover all health expenses sustained on board the Exodia as he has a substantial line of credit to use for contracts. Charges will be disputed later by the board on whether they were classified as necessary and deserving of reimbursement.

[fierce egret]

Hello TF 1.... It is seeming like things are not going to workout so well with the BG moving around without having constant airfield support, and there probably isnt going to be enough room in TF3 with their setup. Is there room on any ships here for a fighter? Unfortunetly it is just a starter fighter.

[fluid cave]

All of our ships are maxed out unforcentily.
We don't have any spare flight decks

[quasi crown]

unfortunately we are full on fighters. Have you checked with atlas?

[dense rune]

Hello, could I "borrow" a Destroyer for... an amount of time?

[sinful latch]

We don't have any

[dense rune]

Drats

[edgy harbor]

Hey buddy you picked the wrong door, the small ship task force is two blocks down /ref

[quasi crown]

Theorycrafting here:
What would you guys think the most efficient build for a ship designed to take a BG to surface would be?
My design is
BC

• 3 cargo bays
• 6 Flight decks (with HATs)
• Scanner System

This gives the ability to scan a site to drop off 30 units

[covert palm]

And when there isn't an airfield?

[sinful latch]

Paradrop

Get an Engi unit that can make airfelds, and get Rugged Hats

[quasi crown]

good point

[astral tapir]

Maybe swap 2 flight decks for vtol bays. They can hold 2 each now can't they?

[quasi crown]

Then it'd drop deployment number by 2 to 28

Which isn't the worst

[astral tapir]

In the scenario where there isn't an airfield. Then you should be able to get almost everyone down.

[quasi crown]

True, Though I wonder if the vtol capability should be a separate ship in the TF

[calm talon]

I'd do this with VTOLs instead of HATs. You'll get more interaction with them coming up for repairs and supplies

[quasi crown]

VTOLs are awkward because they can't deploy a whole cargo bay

A vtol bay has the same DC as drop pods

[calm talon]

Sure they can. Just have them in multiples of 5. 5 VTOLs + 5 units as cargo

[quasi crown]

A VTOL bay will hold 2 VTOLs

[calm talon]

So 5 bays is 10 VTOLs, that's 2 cargo bays worth of BG units

[quasi crown]

and we are limited to CS slots

where 6 flight decks with HATs can drop 30 units

and most BGs are 30+ units

[calm talon]

I'm not saying its more efficient in terms of unit count. I'm saying its more flexible in terms of what you can deploy, where you can deploy, and how closely you can support them.

[quasi crown]

Oh sure I agree

[calm talon]

and also, for deploying a BG you're looking at multiple ships anyway

sooo 2-3 BCs?

each a mix of drop capacity and guns for defense

[quasi crown]

Maybe turn the theory craft into fleet with the least req cost

DC/Req or something

Because honestly I think just a destroyer with a VTOL bay, a Drop pod, and an autocannon could drop the eng with inf and odt support to build the airstrip for the bc

[north crown]

I am curious to see what our fleet looks like next campaign

[calm talon]

building an airstrip is what... 8 actions?

assuming we're talking proper airstrip and not the one that needs a rugged hat

[quasi crown]

ah, fair

I thought it was faster than that

[calm talon]

honestly its kind of hard to beat VTOLs in terms of being able to just push shit out the door and have them land basically anywhere

(i'm including HVTOLs in this for vehicle transport)

[quasi crown]

Yeah, because Drop pods require upgraded units

[calm talon]

you could build a pretty sick BG/TF combo that drops ODTs/PAI/Mechs to fidn and blow up AA with a VTOL folow up

vtols carry supplies too, so you'd be set for logistics

[quasi crown]

You'd probably want all destroyers for such a force for their speed

[fierce egret]

Let me know if a spot happens to open up! No worries if not, ill just sleep with the boots.

[drowsy lion]

You mean 15, right?

You can't declare battlegroups out of thin air - You do need Cargo Bays.

[quasi crown]

BCs come with 3 cargobays built in

[drowsy lion]

That's 15 units only.

[quasi crown]

yes, and I said 3 additional cargo bays

[drowsy lion]

Eh? Don't see it in the message, just an additional scanner system. Unless it's a later message?

[quasi crown]

I didn't list it as 6 because bcs are built with 3 that don't take slots, I only listed slot fillers

[quasi crown]

did you check with atlas? because we are unlikely to get another ship

[fierce egret]

Isnt Atlas logistics?

[quasi crown]

They may have an open flight bay and need protection

Also Storm may want you since they are flying in on their own VTOLs and might want some fighters to fly with them

[calm talon]

reloads are a problem

[fierce egret]

yea they said no thanks

too unreliable becuase id need an airfield

[quasi crown]

Ah, makes sense

[fierce egret]

I might just hangout with the shovels

that way they can always build me an airfield

🤣

[rapid sorrel]

What about Tabby's? Do they have Flight Decks?

[sage turtle]

We need a flight deck so badly

[drowsy lion]

Yeah, you'd use your ammo and be running around for 5 rounds as we redeploy to desperately hold a location.

[quasi crown]

Lets update the recruiting poster then

[fierce egret]

They dont have the room for one. They only want destroyers and they will mostly have bays for dropping troops and guns.

[sage turtle]

We already have those We honestly may have gone too far into it with those

[north crown]

Okay redid my math based off what I know our supply is looking much better

With a dedicated logi task force we have at least three more free LS unless we’re concerned with this going longer then 10 rounds

Which brings us to 9 committed 5 free

[quasi crown]

well, that 5 will be useful for sorties and the like

[rapid sorrel]

Do we want to circle back to the spend 1 to get Storm to surface sooner discussion?

[north crown]

I think we should now that we have more free LS

Again just a discussion since we still have no info

[quasi crown]

I think the issue is shack has said we leave the gate after the other 2 TFs due to our speed

so it isn't really worth it

so the other TFs will be able to scout ahead of our TF

[rapid sorrel]

Where? (Not to really question I just didn't see that myself)

[north crown]

It was they can go ahead I believe

He said they could go but then they wouldn’t have the escort

[quasi crown]

Fluffle said they were going to go as early as possible

[rapid sorrel]

Yeah, but that's Tabby and Tabby is well... Tabby

[north crown]

Lmao she likes to go fast

[rapid sorrel]

There would be no stopping her, regardless

[quasi crown]

Right, so she will scout ahead anyway

I'm down for doing it if their scouting shows it to be good

[rapid sorrel]

But this isn't about scouting, this is about securing the port as fast as possible

[north crown]

This is us trying to push into the orbitals over the city get a scan off and then help storm land as safely as possible

[quasi crown]

I guess my vote is for wait for the scout info from the other TFs

[sage turtle]

Part of our plan as rabbit is having Tabby take us to the closest starport so we can deploy immediately, so she'll probably be the one scouting that. There's at least a good chance

[north crown]

We do have time to decide

[north crown]

Do you guys have scanners?

[rapid sorrel]

I put a 3 day limit on the poll

[sage turtle]

Fluffle only has two vehicle bays, one Mech Bay an HMG and an autocannon. They are severely under crewed

[north crown]

No one’s gonna be able to find it at that point we can just put a new one up later if we get more info

[north crown]

So you’re still dropping blind then?

[rapid sorrel]

Fair

[sage turtle]

More or less, I think one of the organizers put us in tandem with another battle group so they won't be alone once they get on the planet

We'll be able to deploy six light vehicle scouts on turn one most likely

[north crown]

Probably storm but storm was talking about waiting for the actual turn one so we could escort them in

[sage turtle]

I should say 4 LVs and 2 LMs

[sage turtle]

Let me find his post

I was wrong. He was just asking which task force we were working with so it may actually just be fluffle and rabbit scouts

[north crown]

How heavily armed are your orbitals?

[sage turtle]

We have 2 destroyers with one defensive weapon each

[north crown]

Ah

Shit

[covert palm]

hello

whats going on here?

[sage turtle]

Then whatever we deploy with them. We have some pretty good weapons in rabbit, so it's not like we're completely destitude

[north crown]

Hey sierra

[north crown]

I am more worried about you meeting a bot orbital enroute

It’s a risk since we have no info but shack keeps hinting that something could happen

[covert palm]

oh are we discussing the fluffle/rabbit transport?

are they still going to crossroads or has that changed?

[north crown]

Not sure

They where saying they wanted to try to capture the space port

Storm has told me they’re sticking with us so no need to worry about them going in early it’s just rabbit but I’m not sure which tile they’re aiming for

[sage turtle]

We are planning on going to crossroads as soon as we can, but we're being hampered by the fact that we need to take over a starport first. So fluffle is going to try to scout out the easiest starport to take and then we can deploy from there if we take it

[sage turtle]

We really do need sensors, don't we?

[covert palm]

oh does fluffle not have transport for you?

[north crown]

We have some but you’d have to wait for turn one cause we’re slow as shit

[sage turtle]

All we have is the transport part, we have no sensors minimal defenses and we can't even launch fighters

[covert palm]

then more turns

for us to reach places

[sage turtle]

Yes we're fast as hell that too

[quasi crown]

yall just need real orbi crews

[sage turtle]

I know there's like four flight decks in TF2

[north crown]

We have a bunch of flight decks to

[sage turtle]

We may just be hitting the limit on how many people can afford to join a task force

[covert palm]

well if you are fast you may be able to outrun enemies... wouldnt count on that tho

[north crown]

To reconfirm we’re taking about passing through NAV1 then to the city

[sage turtle]

Yeah we're probably going to be able to do that turn one

[quasi crown]

well in terms of captains probably, but new players can be crew to bring orbi upgrades (like me)

[north crown]

We could do it turn one if we burn the extra LS

[sage turtle]

Want to join Fuffle 😂

[sage turtle]

I wouldn't waste it personally. We're going to definitely get there and have boots on the ground immediately so we can scout for you guys

[covert palm]

given the whole thing gets harder the longer we delay.... i think its worth it to burn an LS

[quasi crown]

Will the vtols be able to keep up?

[covert palm]

The entire operation depends on the quick securement of a starport

[north crown]

Yes burning it only puts us at speed two they’re 5

[covert palm]

And if there is a heavy orbital presence around the thing that lets orbitals land, specifically the enemy force that wants to transport large amounts of people out of cities

we need Victorum to punch through that

[quasi crown]

We are all in agreement about that but the issue is if we go too fast we could get a lot of the vtols killed before they hit the ground

[north crown]

Well punch through it we have a very heavy hitting TF here

Worst comes to worse we launch our fighters and the VTOLs hide in our flight decks while we attack the blockade

[covert palm]

^

[quasi crown]

VTOLS can't use the flight decks though

[north crown]

Ah fudge forgot that bit…

Then maybe they just hide behind our hulls need be we go full speed ahead and just keep them in the center where no one can reach them

We’ll take a lot of damage and might even lose a ship that way, but no matter what we gotta get the boys on the ground

[drowsy lion]

We have Speed 5 - we outstrip you by a lot.

[north crown]

If we have to force a blockade open, I’m pretty confident we can do it without losing any ships. We have a lot of fire power.

[covert palm]

I mean I guess it depends on how exactly you enter a tactical map

Like where

In terms of how safe the VTOLs are

If we spawn on the edge of the map the VTOL’s if really needed can just dash back to the prior zone

[north crown]

If an enemy is right in front of us the VTOLS are about as safe as they can get

It just gets dangerous if the enemy has a lot of small fast mobile ships

[sage turtle]

Could you help rabbit deploy then? Because if we're already going to be on PlanetSide turn one, couldn't you guys follow us??

[sage turtle]

Oh I see

That's fair

[north crown]

The worst thing that happens is our four big ships getting involved in a brawl with BOT big ships and then a small destroyer or even cruiser sneaks up behind and wacks the VTOLS

[quasi crown]

Shack made them agree to a thing that basically said it would be highly deadly for them to fly the way they are

[stray moss]

Do remember we could board and I think vtol can attack ships to if needed storm a bunch of really angry bees

[sage turtle]

At that point they could be safer on the planet side because they could just retreat. If Victorum is going to be focused on taking down enemy orbital assets. The vitals actually might be safer. Just following fluffle to the surface since they're going to have to worry about you and if they start chasing us they're going to have their backs to you and all the guns that you guys have

I'm not trying to cause another situation like what happened on hurricane though so I'm going to shut up about this

[covert palm]

I mean it really comes down to

How many turns of warning

[north crown]

Warthog you’re good the whole point of this is us trying to come up with a plan

If we start getting too heated, someone will remind us so as long as we’re just brainstorming and not yelling at each other, it’s fine😝

[covert palm]

Cause VTOL’s can outrun destroyers iirc

[quasi crown]

The issue is going to the surface will cause all units with range 2 weapons to fire on us.

[drowsy lion]

... We're a BG, we don't have that much capacity.

We have enough capacity for ourselves - unless you have a 2 player BG, which isn't permitted.

[north crown]

We don’t have Atmos fuel so that won’t be a problem

We will be high orbit over the city

[covert palm]

So like…. As long as it’s more than 0 turns of warning and we’re not totally surrounded stormblessed can outrun anything with less speed than 5 iirc

[sage turtle]

We have plenty of BG. Our task force is only two at the moment and it's it's hard to find crew at this point in the game

[drowsy lion]

We are really fast, yes.

[covert palm]

And worst case dive to planetary map

Which is possible death via AA vs guaranteed death of being caught by orbitals

[quasi crown]

I think in a brawl situation Storm should just book it to the surface

[north crown]

I forgot how fast they are. It’s probably a good idea.

[quasi crown]

Which would really only be fighters

[covert palm]

Or custom shuips

[north crown]

Although it would suck for them to be trapped on the ground with enemy forces and not be able to retreat through space if Victoria has to withdraw

[quasi crown]

true the bots could have better speed

[covert palm]

Can they go to Nav 1 from planetary?

[north crown]

Don’t forget, they could have fighters attached to their TF

[quasi crown]

The problem they said is airfields

but!

[north crown]

The way shack explained it to me is everything over and around that planet is high orbit

[quasi crown]

The fighters could land on aviary to refuel

[north crown]

Low orbit is on the planet and as long as a task force doesn’t declare they’re in the orbit. They’re just considered high orbit over that particular map.

[sage turtle]

Fluffle is planning you to go low orbit though because we were deploying Rabbit

[quasi crown]

Thats why if you guys don't get enough DC to deploy the whole BG I think being a space scout force would make more sense

[covert palm]

But ships can’ scout ground, right?

[quasi crown]

with a scanner yes

[north crown]

Only with a scanner if we just go low orbit, we don’t get LOS on anything other than aerospace and orbitals I believe

[rapid sorrel]

We're speed 1, and can only move in 1 direction

There will be no withdrawal

[sage turtle]

We aren't trying to get enough DC to deploy the whole battle group. We're just trying to get enough DC down to take the starport

At this point

[rapid sorrel]

I say we spend the LS, we get in close, and we tangle them up, while the VTOLs book it to the surface outside of their range

[rapid sorrel]

If we're pushing Elim with Storm, I'm not sure this plan is on the board anymore

[drowsy lion]

We don't have Fighters in our BG, though we are currently debating a possible solution.

[drowsy lion]

No, RAW, scanners work in High Orbit.

[halcyon spire]

Anything interesing in the past 12+ hours?

[quasi crown]

umm, Kaelnovar and I are the TACCOMs, i made the turn spreadsheet, Pearl officially moved over to Atlas, Atlas and Fluffle are becoming real TFs Atlas with 3 ships, Fluffle with 2

[sage turtle]

I lost a taccom

[quasi crown]

Oh we got an engineer for exodia

[lyric turret]

Okay meta comms too much text lol.

[halcyon spire]

Ok... I'm going to check the op description doc.

Good to see that it got updated.

[lyric turret]

How we looking?

[halcyon spire]

We have TF 1, us a big fleet with big ships :D
TF 2 Atlas (Im not going to remember these names) with a light compliment bettlecruiser/destroyer/frieghter and focussing on DC
TF 3 Fluffle currently consists of 2 destroyers. Both have landing gear, most likely troop deployment focused.

[lyric turret]

I mean if they got that pretty well crewed I'm happy.

[halcyon spire]

TF 3 just needs 1 more person but other than that, they're all crewed

[lyric juniper]

They can pick up one person in a week, things are looking good

[rapid sorrel]

My computer needs a factory reset, but once it's back I'll make a sheet so that people can "claim" responsibilities on PV so that organization is easier because we have more actions than crewmembers

[sage turtle]

We kind of have an issue of not having enough crew to consider it a task force, also, we don't have a flight deck

[quasi crown]

Give it some time

[halcyon spire]

Oh, yeah. How bad is not having a flight deck?

[quasi crown]

Worst case scenario you merge with atlas

[sage turtle]

That's all Tabby

[quasi crown]

but I think there will be plenty of sign ups

[sage turtle]

I'm just trying to help anywhere I can

[north crown]

I’m heading to bed @ me if anything comes up

Until then I’m gonna keep yelling at chat GBT to give me a cool editing FTL image for our ships

[void rivet]

Hello hello, counting number guy here, how many of you guys is there ? 👀

I currently have 32 members marked, but on this link https://docs.google.com/document/d/17GWTf2zNB4GZMKJ8GfhYsrx9EgECvka861cm-A2Ymus/edit?tab=t.0 that's on the Ops Log I only count around 20 aswell

I'm gonna need a definitive number and an up to date link (if you have one) Victorum please 🙏

[fluid cave]

37 players. And https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XzG7yq6Qr-lA5loU09KXxV-rui1v7NVdYppsfyV802A/edit?gid=1304239885#gid=1304239885

[void rivet]

Oooo !

Thank you very much ! ❤️

Veeery nice doc.

[rapid sorrel]

Mornin' Victorum

[fluid cave]

Morning Cancer

[zealous palm]

Mornin Cobalt, Mornin Cancer, bust busy work morning lol, fist break in 3 hrs

Any deliberations overnight we need to know about TF or BG wise

[rapid sorrel]

Not that I know of

[zealous palm]

Good good, see Tabby is planning on yoloing like normal, and BG/TF STORM is living up to its name.

We have an official ETA to round 1? Last I heard was maybe 2 weeks

[uncut bear]

22nd last I heard

[fierce sentinel]

start date was 22nd/23rd (depending on time zone) so that should be start of round 1.

[uncut bear]

I mean given you guys are part of the group actually playing on round 1 I would be ready after we get past the 20th. Never know if Shack offers us some extra scouting opportunities and such

[zealous palm]

Cool cool, so orders should be due to us 24 or so I think.

[zealous palm]

True true, but initial orders will probably end up being from the captains, and aerospace assets only, and maybe the scanner crew.

[fierce sentinel]

I think only the fasted Task Force could go early to scout and with our speed being 1 I don't think we would be the fastest.

[north crown]

Morning folks

[fluid cave]

Morning Yakove

[north crown]

I miss anything?

[quasi crown]

I dont think this is true, since the other tfs are faster they should be out the gate before us

[sage turtle]

The endurance has joined Atlas

[sage turtle]

We have an improved map of crossroads. Apparently it's very mountainous

[quasi crown]

Not terribly surprised by that

Endurance matches their mission the best

[sage turtle]

He's employing a Titanfall doctrine

[quasi crown]

@brave cape Exodia is more than ok on crew. If you want to get to use your upgrades you may want to check with atlas. Not saying I dont want you here but just thought id point that out

[lyric turret]

Morning looks like the fleet is coming together.

[fluid cave]

Also you can move to the Primo Victoria if you’d like. They might have more actions on board than we will.

[north crown]

What are we thinking about Expanding aerospace hangers?

The thing shack is talking about in mid rounds

[quasi crown]

The VTOL bays?

[quasi crown]

They've already been upgraded to housing 2 vtols the rest is just fluff

doesn't impact us since we have no vtol bays

[north crown]

He mentions aerospace flightdeck, and that which affects all of us

[calm talon]

Honesty it would make more sense to have light (vtols and fighters) and heavy (everything else) flight decks. The vtol/winged aircraft distinction is only relevant in atmo.

[quasi crown]

oh, I think that was meant as a fluff reason for why the flight decks won't get expanded which I think is fine

The intent is balancing around DC for TFs

[fluid cave]

I think we could push for it. But that would hurt all of our ships hits or armor.
I think we should leave it as is.

[quasi crown]

This brings VTOLs in line with Drop pods in DC amount

[north crown]

Yeah, that was my thought as well. I don’t think it’s worth taking extra damage over it.

[brave cape]

Hey lads, of course that's absolutely fine, going where I'm needed, ill move over to Primo Victoria, how we looking by the way?

[quasi crown]

We are looking good, shack has joined atlas with endurance too

And they are trying to do an orbital drop force

[brave cape]

oh hell yeah

[quasi crown]

That was why I thought you may want to go over to them so you can use your upgrades. but no pressure! We like you here lol

[brave cape]

I like yall too, it could be funny to dodge shiv tho

hmmmm

er yeah, ill go wherever im needed most if they need those upgrades ill go there, otherwise yeah ill move over to victoria for now

[quasi crown]

oky doke, I would just pop into their chat and ask

[brave cape]

good idea

let me just check before I do we have enough minimum crew right?

[quasi crown]

Yes, we have plenty of crew

[brave cape]

nice thanks

[quasi crown]

otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it lol

[brave cape]

hahaha

TRUE but still felt it best to ask

moving over think im needed, looking forward to seeing yall in space

@pure bramble ill wave at you from afar latteeerrr

[fluid cave]

Okay. Bye Conko.
I hope you enjoy your new home.
You're always welcome back if they get mean or smth

[brave cape]

Thank you, ill still hang in chat but will keep it minimal not to disrupt

[quasi crown]

All good, I hope its a good fit!

[ancient jolt]

:0
/j

[north crown]

Heading to work anything I need to look at before I go?

[gritty basin]

Good evening Victorum, have you all continued planning?

[quasi crown]

what do you mean? our plan is unchanged and there hasn't been any further intel

[gritty basin]

Are we still on a plan of we move one space?

[digital goblet]

Hi, I was thinking of making an Orbital Crew and joining.

[fluid cave]

Hello, Our TF is pretty full. Unless you can bring your own hull we'd recommend checking out TF2 or TF3 #1382037040438181950 #1382037157342085314 They need people

But welcome to space

[steep jetty]

what were you expecting it's a dangerous place
Thank you for investing

I've listened to way too much stupendium

[fluid cave]

It's good, I don't blame you

[brave cape]

yeah it is!

[ancient jolt]

There is no such thing as “too much Stupendium”

[north crown]

Do we have enough people to man all our guns?

[gritty basin]

Go there for your rota, there for your order, fill up the quotas we'll bill for your quarters

[fluid cave]

If not we need to recurit more

Cancer said he's fine last time I asked em

[quasi crown]

as long as the bomber stays on the PV, it can

[calm talon]

did you account for the people needed to reload the guns lol

[quasi crown]

Maybe masakari could go over to PV if needed to give PV another person to man the guns

since CA has a bunch extra for her guns

[calm talon]

You can put me on any ship

[quasi crown]

oky doke, I'll swap you over

now PV has a bit more wiggle room and boarding defense

[quasi crown]

I figure we won't necessarily be firing every gun every turn, otherwise we need to recruit much more for pv

[calm talon]

its kind of hard to theorycraft without having experience in how these newfangled orbital ops work in practice

Is 6 crew on a gun BC enough? Or do you want two dudes dedicated to reloads? Who knows 🤷‍♂️

[steep jetty]

report to your foreman but watch for marauders
cause If you get eaten there’s fees for your mourners
(we should probably stop now so we dont get too off topic)

[calm talon]

if you don't stop I will start quoting the fish pun song

[hard sleet]

Hello all. Hope you are having a good timezone

Any new plans that the fighters should be aware of

[quasi crown]

nope

[slate lodge]

Hi guys, i think you're probably almost set, but just to let you know, TF2 ATLAS managed to get 3 heavy drop pods and 1 regular drop pods, if any ODT's/PAI's want to deploy that way we have space still.

[amber dragon]

When your unit is inside the orbital, does it act as crew?

[fluid cave]

Yes

[sinful latch]

Had a stupid thought, so I'm sharing it:
Petition to rename the Starboard MBC of Aurorae to Jerry, since the Port one is mine, and named Longtom

So we can introduce the Bots to Tom and Jerry properly

[fluid cave]

We've been offered 1 LS if we burn 1 to go fast on T1 to stick with Atlas.
Opinnions?

[sinful latch]

Seems reasonable to me

[zealous palm]

sooo, it's less "offered" 1 LS, more the other TF is paying for us to keep up, I like the idea

[zealous palm]

@rapid sorrel @glad flume @slow whale @astral tapir You guys good taking the offer for the other TF to pay a LS for us to keep up with Atlas? 4 posts above this

[rapid sorrel]

What'd I miss?

[zealous palm]

4 posts up

[rapid sorrel]

If I read correctly, and they're covering the cost, sure

[astral tapir]

Sounds good to me. We will put in a prayer to the omnissiah to bless our vessels with speed.

[fluid cave]

Yeah, they're offering to pay for the extra gas we'd need

[slow whale]

So Atlas is paying? How much LS do they have? If they are going to be trying to supply as much of the BGs as they can, I'd rather not take from them unless it has all been mathed out that they would be fine giving up that LS. I do think however, that using an LS to speed up the group is very valuable as each turn the all the BGs have will be crucial in setting up where they are needed.

[fluid cave]

Currently they have 10 LS

[rapid sorrel]

If they think they can, I say sure

If they express any doubt, then no

[slow whale]

Do we know how many airfields are planning to be made if any? I would imagine that would be out of Atlas' pocket unless we are the only one in the area? If that number is 0 I think they would be good with that much supply. 18 turns worth if burning it all back to back.

[fluid cave]

That puts us up to 23 across the whole force.
They are planning on building airfields but not suppling them

[rapid sorrel]

Elim probably has a spacedock, so I don't they'll need one until they push beyond that

[fluid cave]

They are gonna be using supplies to drop with their HATs.
They'll probably be using it as little as they need.

[slow whale]

Good to know, just want to make sure they are sure that they can afford it.

[thin fulcrum]

We're fairly sure we're in a good position. Need the rest of the Captains to sign off on it but the tactical advantage of getting you to Elim might be worth it.

[uncut bear]

Just the one planned at Crossroads by BG9 Flying Shovels. TF2 is also going to funnel supply into Crossroads with that

[slow whale]

Sounds good. I agree to it being a very big advantage.

[north crown]

If they’re paying for us to go one faster I’m all for it

[hard sleet]

So we are going to be giving Cover to both Atlas and Storm Blessed while they hit the deck? is Fluffle also deploying with us?

[fluid cave]

Fluffle isn't able to deploy yet.
But yeah, that sounds like the plan.
They're gonna spend 1 LS for us to move faster

[lyric turret]

I mean getting into location faster is nothing but good.

[hard sleet]

Sounds good.

And what location is that? I have not been paying close attention to chat at all?

[fluid cave]

Elim city

[hard sleet]

so we got Victorum, Atlas, Stormblessed, and maybe another BG all hitting Elim?

[fluid cave]

Yep

[hard sleet]

Sounds good. Hopefully we can get another heavy-hitting BG in at least such as Ultra or Phalanx. Doubt it, but it would be nice to not rely on our QRF to secure what may well be a defended star port

[lyric turret]

Yeah we be back to the point of not enough transport

[hard sleet]

Sad times. Next Campaign I think we are going to have too many transports.

[calm talon]

I have a distinct feeling that way too many people want to be captains 🙂

at least compared to people who want to crew

[sinful latch]

relaxes on his gun
Speak for yourself

[hard sleet]

I am hoping I can crew or play ground engineer next campaign. (I am going to see someone building a carrier and immediately join most likely)

[calm talon]

Ye, I'm really sold on carrier ops. The idea of throwing a doomblob of like 5-10 torpedo bombers to delete a hostile orbital just rubs me the right way.

[lyric turret]

I mean if the next op is a space habitat

[quasi crown]

Somewhat caught up but here is my 2 cents, I thinkg their LS is better spent in hauling a BG then giving us speed

[sinful latch]

Counterpoint: 1 LS gets them either
A) 5 ground units, which they then need to deploy, or
B) 4 combat vessels, totaling 36 players

Do you want 5 extra Inf squads, or a Carrier Task Force

[quasi crown]

Well if the difference if them dropping a bg or not

[calm talon]

I imagine that with the weight of VTOL landings from Storm a second bg on turn 1 is not a massive difference. Getting those VTOLs to the spaceport safely would be more critical, no?

Then on turn 2, everybody else can spawn from the spaceport

[quasi crown]

(to be clear I've had a few drinks so forgive)
Obv the biggest importance is claiming a spaceport asap

[thin fulcrum]

Moving even a 30 person BG would cost us 6 of our 10 LS. It just consumes too much LS to move the bigger BGs unfortunately

[quasi crown]

The fact that atlas is speed 2 means they could drop a smaller BG asap and we could follow up with a protected storm vtol squad and more of them could make it planet side

[uncut bear]

I think it really depends on how much resistance you expect in the city

[quasi crown]

Fair, let us know when you guys determine how large of a BG you're willing to carry

&/or if you will be carrying one

[quasi crown]

heavy, the things shack has said indicates such

[halcyon spire]

Anything interesting in the past 12+ hours... I just noticed I have an unread message in #midround-events :D
Double VTOL bay, nice.

[thin fulcrum]

It's still not final for now but getting you and Storm there is arguably more of an impact than any single BG compared to the cost of a single LS. The rest can be used to supply future FOBs and Airfields

[quasi crown]

tbc, I'm not against it, but I'm worried about burning resources when we have no intel

[halcyon spire]

That sounds like classic Armco.

[fluid cave]

Personally I think it’s worth it

But we can have a poll about it

[halcyon spire]

Elim City T1?

Aren't we going to NAV L-W1?

[rare lantern]

We voted on it a while ago and decided to go to Elim first

[halcyon spire]

Damn... I was hyped to rush the machines in space.

[halcyon spire]

Wow, how did I only find out about this now?

[fluid cave]

Not sure

[halcyon spire]

Also are we sure there's a space port there?

[fluid cave]

I tried to make sure everyone could vote

There's a poll just a little bit up that everyone (TF Victorum) should vote on

[rare lantern]

We dont even know they'll be at L-W1 for all we know theyre all already crawling over Elim, the idea is to go to Elim to hopefully clear a spaceport, and then we'll have enough intel to find the enemy fleet

[fluid cave]

No, but where else would one be?

[uncut bear]

Yeah the campaign just doesn’t make sense if there’s not a port there

[fluid cave]

Shavk has said cities might have them, no where else really makes sense

[halcyon spire]

Valid point

[halcyon spire]

The curse of time zones

[fluid cave]

Yeah it gets buried

I run them for 24 Hrs

[halcyon spire]

Has anyone decided to go to the rock station yet?

[fluid cave]

I don't think so, but that's definitly for fluffle or we can decide later.

It's not as important as the spaceport and by then we 'll have new information

[calm talon]

the locals could probably tell us if that station is compromised by bots or not

[halcyon spire]

That's the thing, it's out of the way of the bots and is unlikely to be reached by them. So I expect if fluffle goes there, to find something cool. Who knows maybe even loot.

[quasi crown]

I still feel like this is too early to make a decision but I'm for it if the other TFs don't encounter resistance post gate

[fluid cave]

This one really only gets more reasonable if things change.
None of the players there are going to leave the TF and they aren't going to end up with less LS only more.
I highly doubt we'll get more information before deployment

But I'm done for the night

Good timezone Victorum

[quasi crown]

fair enough

I just hope they get to be able to deploy a smaller BG

[coarse oxide]

can someone catch me up on the new BGs and or TFs? is everyone still doing the same things

[coarse oxide]

im stealing this phrasing, its good

[north crown]

Ya I think we all wanted to get into the fight immediately but it’s more worthwhile to get the city early. Then we can go hunting if the bots don’t come for us

We need that spaceport to get all the other battle groups down

[quasi crown]

This is what I told Atlas

I do think it is very important to get boot on the ground asap I just don't want to commit to anything til more intel is infront of us

[coarse oxide]

I agree with this, our main goal is intel anyway. if we can secure atleast something we wont be fighting off balance.

[north crown]

Considering they are our supply and logistics group, I think it’s more worth it to burn our own cause we have plenty

[coarse oxide]

do we have a BG small enough to transport yet?
how many people can we transport?

[north crown]

No we’re not looking at transporting anyone right now

At least last time we had this discussion

[coarse oxide]

catch me up? ive been off for the day

or last two tbh

[quasi crown]

I agree with that, but I think with no intel it is better to make no promises

[north crown]

We are a orbital supremacy task force and we’re all big ships. The only way we land A battle group is with the spaceport and at that point it’s more worth it to just let them come in on the transports.

[north crown]

Of course everything we’re planning right now in this chat is subject to change if we get more info

Which I really hope we do

I gotta drive back home. I’ll be back on in 30 minutes. Ping me if you guys need to get my attention.

[coarse oxide]

ive been debating make a short clip to send to captain
"CAPTAIN!!! GIVE US INTEL AND MY LIFE IS YOURS" lol

really make that scream guttural haha

[quasi crown]

My idea is that they can drop some spec ops team or something so we know wtf is happening on the ground and we follow with storm

[coarse oxide]

okay i understand this, but in that case how are we securing a star port. I'd assume we'd need boots to actually secure anything.

oh

hrm

[north crown]

We’re going in with the storm battle group who are yeeting themselves in VTOLS

Our job is just to clear a path with them the debate we’re having right now is whether we burn a large supply to boost ourselves to speed two for a turn

Or if we have Atlas spend one of theirs to boost us

Although do we want Atlas taking a battle group because then it puts us back at square one where we’re the only ones able to continuously supply the ground

[rapid sorrel]

I wouldn't mind using one of theirs, only because that means more ammo for us, but only if they really want to

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, there's other Task Forces. THat's what I assumed they would work on.

[coarse oxide]

burn ours.
take the US military logic. A operator uses the injured's IFAK instead of their own.
I assume they can transport us another LS if we really need it.

[halcyon spire]

Unless they're solely for another purpose 😅 idk I haven't been keeping track,

[rapid sorrel]

The others can't fight as well as us if there's resistance

[north crown]

What storms requesting of us is that we just cleared them a path

Because we’re the only anti-orbital/aerospace group there is

The math I saw earlier is that we have like 35% of all fighters

[halcyon spire]

Oh... Yeah fair enough, I've been assuming minimal resistance, guess it's hard to judge with little to no intel.

[rapid sorrel]

I can't spell on this tiny keyboard XD

[coarse oxide]

im sure you guys know already but the clankers have been in the system for 2-3 weeks already

shack leaks

[north crown]

Yeah, the only way I keep up with these conversations is by voice typing

[north crown]

Wait, he leaked it when and where?

That is very powerful information

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, due to that I'm assuming about 50% of the map is automaton with the left half mostly fine.

[north crown]

I was thinking, both of the cities are probably captured

Plus the debris field and both mines

[coarse oxide]

meta comms like a while ago. 2-3 days ago
much as i remember is

1. The Mercenary request came on paper.
   (he then continued on a small tirade about how they use the galaxy's most valuable material for a simple merc order and fax)
2. i dont remember how he said 2-3 weeks but i remember definitely about the paperwork being that late or something along those lines

[north crown]

Since that’s what Shack told us they prioritize

[coarse oxide]

for 1 what im assuming is:
the electronic data was either hacked or compromised. so they had to fax or send out a paper order to get some actual help

what im scared of is Shack throwing some hacking sabatoge crap at us

[rapid sorrel]

Anyone got that tacmap for a repost?

[coarse oxide]

#meta-comm message

boom found it

this message specifically

[quasi crown]

I think esspecially if they transport one we burn one

[coarse oxide]

Burn ours!

all im imagining though while we use the LS
we're just popping a container full of NOS

[glad flume]

I’ve been busy all day. Was there a decision? And what’s our plan at this point?

[quasi crown]

Its... complicated

Basically, we are in agreement that getting storm to the ground asap is important

and we are willing to burn an LS to do so

but... the other TFs will be through the gate faster than us

so, I feel like atlas should take a small BG to drop and scout the city before we bring in storm

Atlas doesn't want to commit to that

which is fair

[rapid sorrel]

I'm of full opinion that we should be first

If anyone else goes down, we lose so much more

[lyric turret]

Yeah and I think we all agree we gotta be over that spaceport first thing.

[quasi crown]

oky doke so after talking with atlas the general consensus is that everyone wants us to spearhead the invasion. thats why they are offering LS to speed us up.

I'm onboard with that

also apparently the shovels are suicidal because they are doing a storm but in HATs

[rapid sorrel]

Are they all moving together?

[quasi crown]

that is what I was told

[rapid sorrel]

That's actually good then, that could split fire among them if someone gets past us

[rapid sorrel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kybi0XINsguFhkUBQiB-00augWgQynXa-3AeXRGilYk/edit?usp=drivesdk

(Really rudimentory, purely for Primo Victoria organizational purposes)

CREW OF THE PRIMO VICTORIA

Please feel free to "claim" a battlstation of your choosing, first come first serve, so that when the time comes, we're less likely to trip over who does what.

[zealous palm]

I grabbed scanner lol, since it's an easy order for myself, and no thought needed, one less thing for me to do

it's litterly, Scanner AoE, yes

[rapid sorrel]

Do keep in mind we may have to shuffle about if we lose crew cough Hose cough or if we can't man everything at once but this is just for the sake of not having to hunt everyone's actions down immediately as Captain XD

I'll probably add an order slot if I need to

[lyric turret]

Or if the ship needs fires put out/boarders repelled.

[rapid sorrel]

We can only be boarded from behind (if they obey the same boarding rules), I feel like we may have more problems at hand if that happens XD

[covert palm]

sorry i've been distracted

i probbably need to catch up on a bunch lol

but thats for tomorrow

cause its sleep time lol

[lyric turret]

Do boarding torpedo operate the same way?

[north crown]

They can board from any external doors, I believe

[rapid sorrel]

They can only pen Armor 1 I believe, we have Armor 3

[lyric turret]

Ahh

[north crown]

From what I understood all ships have side doors that a VTOL can attach to and I do wonder if shack will allow enemy aerospace to land on our flight text to unload troops

[rapid sorrel]

Oh... that would be bad XD

[lyric turret]

Yeah the vtol is the ultimate boarding if it can get close.

[rapid sorrel]

That would be an emergency Cobalt button so fast XD

[covert palm]

but our backside has no armor iirc

[rapid sorrel]

It doea not, no, but that would require a ship with boarding pods to make it past our forward guns, our broadside guns, and the guns of one of our escorts at the very least

Not to mention our fighters and bombers

[lyric turret]

I really want to try a full on marine boarding ship but sadly not very practical.

[covert palm]

not unless we get an armor shredding weapon, yeah

[rapid sorrel]

LF with 1 VTOL bay, and 1 barracks hide behind a larger ship, and then launch the VTOLs XD

[lyric turret]

Very risky for those vtols

[rapid sorrel]

True but that's probably the most "effective" way

[quasi crown]

Where was this said?

[edgy harbor]

Dibs on comms (definitely not for shitposting purposes)

[rapid sorrel]

Just blasting Crazy Frog into the Tinnie comms

[north crown]

I am high as a bat rn remind me in a couple hours to look

I’ve got a friend who’s thinking about joining Meta do we have room on any ships for him as crew?

[rapid sorrel]

I think there's one in TF2 that needs slots

[quasi crown]

PV could use more reloaders, but Atlas really could use more crew

[north crown]

He wants to play with me but I wasn’t sure if any ships have slots open

[quasi crown]

we are just full up on CS

[north crown]

Right but do we need crew is what he’s asking

[quasi crown]

My buddy just signed onto Atlas as crew

[quasi crown]

need? no

Atlas needs more crew

[rapid sorrel]

We don't need crew, but I won't turn down some marines

[edgy harbor]

*Battle Alarm Klaxon*
You're listening to 96.4
*MBC reloading sfx*
Primo Victoria FM.
*Salvo firing*
Where we play nothing but Sabaton, Rock and more rock!
*Explosion with autocannons thumping in the background*
This ain't your ground force station!
*begins playing imagine dragons - radioactive*

[quasi crown]

aviary could use an engi

[rapid sorrel]

Also, kind of fitting the First Mate's on comms XD

[lyric turret]

If needed I can transfer.

[north crown]

No no no your good

[lyric turret]

Legit no problem I trust the community.

[north crown]

He’s fallen in love with fluffle so I think your good

[lyric turret]

Alright but if needed I'm one of the easier ones to move since I don't have ship equipment.

[north crown]

Which ship are you on?

[rapid sorrel]

Corvus I would guess

[lyric turret]

Corpus

Corvus

[rapid sorrel]

Mood

[edgy harbor]

is that a warframe reference?

[rapid sorrel]

Think it's just a spelling error XD