Task force 1 - Victorum: Comms

[dusk jungle]

You lot are quite slow, and we have such limited LS this time round

[fluid cave]

Until Deployment we might not even be sure.
We can pick to deploy people later if needed.

[clever axle]

@pastel yew which way are you pointing your gun

[fluid cave]

Taskforce Victorum Will not be declaring BGs at this time. We may later but not for a while

[rare lantern]

#meta-comm message
This is interesting

[pastel yew]

whichever direction the Cap'n wants it

[clever axle]

It's your gun, but Forward probably makes the most sense

[pastel yew]

Forward it be, cap'n

[sinful latch]

I like that the freighter is currently better armed than the Battlecruiser

[hard sleet]

Counter point. The battlcruiser has us.

[sinful latch]

I meant Exodia

Aviary is fine

[teal rampart]

Already a force of 5 ships. I hope that we get that number up a bit more

[hard sleet]

I hope we get a secondary task force that can move some of the quicker acting units around.

[slow whale]

Yeah 2 TFs would be best. But each needs a good amount of LS to be functional and right now we barely have a enough for 1

[solar ravine]

Eh, I'd say we're good on ships, otherwise no one else gets any deployment options.

[clever axle]

I just got some Marines for my ship

[fluid cave]

What we need 2 CS for the aviary
and 2 more for Exodia?

[summer thunder]

Hello there! More infantry have arrived

[hard sleet]

Hello ceaser welcome to Victorum

[clever axle]

You need to run /unit activate, Caesar

[summer thunder]

We don't actually have the points to upgrade anything as of yet I am assuming? I have only managed to "Buy" a infantry unit thus far

Ah I see will do now

[slow whale]

I thought Exodia needed a bit more to fill out. I only need 2

[sinful latch]

Exodia needs 7

[drowsy lion]

Hey TF Victorum,

BG Storm will be able to deploy as an Aerospace group.
We'll probably be requesting Air Cover from you guys or another Aerospace fighter group.

[fluid cave]

Okay, we need 2 more fleet crew. One for the Exodia and one for the Aviary.

[fluid cave]

Exodia has Iceraider with 3 and it's captain with 2

[solar ravine]

btw Cheese, how does the queue for SAM look rn?
I need to do some shenanigans to get a flight deck.

[sinful latch]

5 then

[fluid cave]

They just havent picked things yet

[rare lantern]

I can supply 3 CS of stuff to exodia, we have 3 from cobalt, and gogurt can supply 2, so we need 2 more CS

[clever axle]

empty

[summer thunder]

Infantry unit activated now, should be all sorted

[fluid cave]

But marines to man things would be nice depending on what we get

[clever axle]

yup. I added you to the doc

[fluid cave]

So do we want the crew that bought the mech bay and door?

[solar ravine]

Good, gonna do a bit of a deactivate-buy-reactivate shuffle

[lyric turret]

I'm gonna wait for now but I'd like to stay with the bulk of the infantry.

[rare lantern]

I don't really know what we'd do with a mech Bay

[clever axle]

Put an HM on our Hull

[hard sleet]

This is a highly risky move. I have seen this stuff go so wrong before and it led to dozens of players not being able to have fun. But if you are locked in I don’t care what I need to do. I’ll make sure I fly escort for you.

[sinful latch]

External Turrets

[fluid cave]

Mechs to maybe soak hits

It could be us or the Aviary

Plus we could take them anyways and replace their stuff if we find someone else

The prima Victoria has a lot of guns that need to be manned

[clever axle]

Callsign "Lockout" is ARMCO's only Heavy Mech

[hard sleet]

If storm blessed is choosing to deploy in this risky manner are their any other fighter’s willing to help me give them a proper escort to make sure they can touch down safely?

[solar ravine]

Shuffle complete, flight deck acquired.
Thought I'd run into a bug with callsign selection, but I apparently just mistyped.

[fluid cave]

@quasi crown If you're okay with it, there's 4 orbitals and we could put you on any to serve as crew

[old hill]

Getting off work. Does another ship need crew? I can move. Probably picking up going with scanner and Comms Intercept for my crew fits. getting back 3 hits doesn't sound as useful on larger ships.

[fluid cave]

Look at the other tab in the doc

[fluid cave]

@slow whale ?

[quasi crown]

I'm happy to serve whereever fits best

[fluid cave]

You might not have your equipment if that's alright

[quasi crown]

That's fine

[jovial otter]

Might I suggest. Not a TF1 guy, just hopping in for a sec.

[fluid cave]

I'd just look at all the ships since crew has been shuffled a few times

[drowsy lion]

We are very aware of this fact.

[quasi crown]

I made those upgrades thinking I could take captain as well for a freighter

[slow whale]

Yeah I can always take you. Need to fill out some CS and those support equipment options work well for my role.

[hard sleet]

Go for it.

[jovial otter]

https://youtu.be/8_8rlp9ut04?si=nvYMYybMZep1qKJf
Towerfierce, for during the charge.

[hard sleet]

I’ll see what I can do. Hopefully more fighters will agree to tag along

[fluid cave]

@quasi crown I'm gonna put you down on the Exodia without your upgrades for now.

[jovial otter]

Yes, game music, I know. Just give it a listen.

[old hill]

I was tag in a message for The Cancer-Mancer about moving I think. Had more equipment the CS I think.

[drowsy lion]

Just dropping in with another note:

If we can deny the enemy from using NAV L-W1, we increase the number of movements the enemy must make to take everything beyond Ziyal city by anywhere from 4-7 additional movements. That's at least an extra round we can hold out if we do so.

NAV L-W1 should probably be a strategic focus as a result.

[jovial otter]

Anyways, I'll hop out now. See you all in 12 days

[slow whale]

Is the Aviary going to become like the radio for the whole ARMCO mission?

[fluid cave]

@brave cape We can use your hands, but probably not your equipment

Is that okay?

[brave cape]

Oh hello everyone thanks for the @ yeah love too mate

apologies my equipment is poorly suited

[hard sleet]

Good morning Armco. Coming live to you from the Aviary is captain ————— with today’s hits for the war over Lumara

[fluid cave]

If we make the Prima Victoria have 15 crew we could split them into they're own taskforce and bring them supplies as needed.

[jovial otter]

"Radio Free Aviary, bringing you bangers to... I wouldn't finish that sentence."

[rapid sorrel]

That would be histerical

[fluid cave]

They'd only need to burn supplies to reload, and they have 3 ammo so it'd be one every 3 turns

[rare lantern]

Would also be very LS(and crew)-inefficient

[fluid cave]

Or 9 turns assuming fighting the entire time

[rapid sorrel]

We can stretch turns if we fire in 2-1 sequence

[clever axle]

how quickly does the AC consume LS

[hard sleet]

Wait dose space ops cost LS

[fluid cave]

I think it'd be funny

[solar ravine]

"Task Force Victorum - Droppin' Bullets, Bombs and sick Beats."

[rare lantern]

One LS keeps a Taskforce "supplied" for 2 rounds, weapons and Aerospace can only reload when a Taskforce is "supllied"

[summer thunder]

The Campaign starts on the 23rd of June, is there anything we need to have done besides the units before then?

[fluid cave]

It'd also get the other TF up to 2 strategic speed so they can run as needed

[drowsy lion]

Sorties also costs LS, yes.

[clever axle]

and it costs 1 LS per 5 rounds of HDPS use, right?

[slow whale]

And an LS if we want to hit the boosters on the strategic map

[hard sleet]

Dam. Well this is all super confusing. I’m going to bed. Catch up with you all another time.

[rapid sorrel]

You're likely gonna be staying behind a speed 1, so that might not be necessary XD

[teal rampart]

Planning of deployment but the info for that isn't published yet

[slow whale]

I more meant on if we need to jump twice on the on the big map. Of course I'll be behind when we get in a fight.

[clever axle]

I would like to suggest we deploy at L-A2 or Ziyal City

[fluid cave]

I don't think we have a choice?

[brave cape]

Very excited this looks amazing

[fluid cave]

We're high orbit based

[drowsy lion]

Aren't we also forced to deploy at Lussan Gate turn 1?

[fluid cave]

We need to deploy via the gate don't we

[clever axle]

We start at the gate, but we can move to L-A2 in 3 rounds

[rapid sorrel]

Our first goal needs to be to secure a landing zone for the rest of our forces, and protecting the VTOL drop

[quasi crown]

We are a space supremacy force

[slow whale]

Yeah we may need to hit up Elim City first to ensure everyone can actually land. Assuming that is where the closest port is

[quasi crown]

so we need to establish that in orbit for an LZ for the ground pounders

[rapid sorrel]

If they ignore us and go straight for the VTOLs we need to make them SUFFER

[brave cape]

yeah that seems appropriate, get everyone in as safe as possible then focus on supremacy?

[drowsy lion]

Another option:

Get Storm to secure Elim City Spaceport, and Victorum holds NAV L-W1. Sortie to provide Air Cover for Storm.

[sinful latch]

Quick note, Silksong is on the Sheet twice, as two different fighters

[quasi crown]

So, with the upgrades we have available so far on Exodia, it may be worth thinking of it as a special forces deployment

[drowsy lion]

We have the INF units to do so on the ground - I was under the impression TF Victorum doesn't have that much INF capability.

[rapid sorrel]

Beyond a limited marine corp? No

[fluid cave]

Fixed with correct unit

[slow whale]

Acting as marines for anti boarding. Also could technically deploy them on the ground in a pinch but we would be stuck until we bring them back up

[quasi crown]

If we can get some high quality mech and troopers to join itd be a safe way to deploy them

[glad flume]

We can carry as many infantry as we want, we just can’t deploy them without HATs. They’re mainly anti-boarding and damage control

[rare lantern]

We'd be going to Elim to secure it against orbitals not ground forces

[fluid cave]

I can deploy them to guard a airfield if needed

But they'd need to get hauled to an airfield fast if I drop them anywhere else

[rapid sorrel]

It's possible we may be able to attack an occupied station, but it's likely our marine force will suffer heavy casualties in a prolonged conflict

[edgy harbor]

I mean... we are a space focused task force?

[slow whale]

We are also the only ones who can explore the Damar Rock Station and Wreckage Field if those become an objective.

[rapid sorrel]

But if we control the space, we control the supply lines, which is far more crucial to the war effort then the glory of one station

[quasi crown]

I was thinking exodia could drop guys to secure and protect space ports, I assume they would provide supplies for orbitals

[drowsy lion]

If you split the task force, that would work, yes.

[fluid cave]

We are assuming that we only have what we can carry

[glad flume]

Can regular bombers hit orbitals?

[fluid cave]

Yes

[sinful latch]

They just need to get closer

[fluid cave]

All aerospace units (with a weapon) can attack orbitals

[rapid sorrel]

They're probably the most effective unit to do so at range

[sinful latch]

Torps let you out range enemy PD

[glad flume]

👍

[fluid cave]

Orbitals are basically ground vehicles for targeting

(Unless in low orbit)

[glad flume]

I hope I don’t end up as a ground unit lmao

[brave cape]

hahaha

[merry prawn]

Wondering. Have you guys decided where you're sending the Taskforce yet? Relevant for our planning

[quasi crown]

I wish I had understood the system better before picking my upgrades 😦 shame there are no refunds

[rare lantern]

not really

[zealous palm]

We need two meks for exodia

[rapid sorrel]

Where are you ending up? You are our first priority, we will drop where you need us

[fluid cave]

We're not recruiting mechs right now

We don't want to lock into the mech bays and door

[glad flume]

It’s probably a bad idea, but we could try just rushing their gate and hope they don’t have a bunch of ships there for some reason lmao

[zealous palm]

Ah, he has it, but might not use it, ok

[brave cape]

let me rehprase my equipment list, may have contributed to that misunderstanding

it says inactive or something at the end will replace at the start

[fluid cave]

We need to establish the starport foist

[clever axle]

So it looks like if I want to use my HDPS, we collectively have to declare the use of the LS, and then spend 5 rounds sitting over a valid location

[rare lantern]

pretty much

[glad flume]

Why 5?

[fluid cave]

@brave cape and @quasi crown If you could put your equipment in the column behind your units instead of in the space the other stuff is. That stuff is what is going in the orbital. Gogurt or I will move it once we need it.

[zealous palm]

Wonder if you can use the HDP as a boarding pod lol

[drowsy lion]

Cheese doesn't have infinite deployment capability.

[rare lantern]

5 units per LS HDPS only provides 1 DC

[brave cape]

you got it

[sinful latch]

LS holds 5 units, 1 per round, 5 rounds

[fluid cave]

We are probably not gonna do that since we'd need to spend at least 3 LS to deploy a BG

[glad flume]

Oh so if he had 5 units to drop, it would be 5 turns. Got it

[solar ravine]

That was me, sorry.
I'm working under the assumption that your unit brings everything they have assigned.

[fluid cave]

They bring it, but they don't have to use it

[brave cape]

ahh I see what you meant now very good organised

[clever axle]

Should I swap the pods for cargo bay

[fluid cave]

Probably, I don't think we're gonna declare any BGs

More LS is always good

[zealous palm]

So @rapid sorrel any idea of how you want to place your turrets yet? MBC broadside 2 a side and AC front?

[clever axle]

we now have 13 LS

[quasi crown]

Why not 2 MBC front, 1 on each side and the AC on the rear

[solar ravine]

Yeh, Exodia got up to the minimum crew needed

[rapid sorrel]

It was gonna be
3 MBC front
6 autocannon sides

But it may become
2 MBC front

1 MBC & 1 Autocannon sides

[fluid cave]

2 MBC rear so if you get flanked they die

[zealous palm]

That could work also, not sure how he wanted it, since he's driving the bus, I'm just firing my cannon

We have 4 MBC signed up so far lol, unless your not taking one, or ones going to someone else.

[rapid sorrel]

The rear is most likely gaurded by the Aurorae and Pearl as long as we stay in formation

[zealous palm]

Btw, do we have a declared tac-com yet? If no, I want to throw my hat in the ring for the bid.

[rapid sorrel]

I think we have 2

[fluid cave]

Have you Taccomed before?

Cause anyone that wants to that hasn't can take it

[zealous palm]

Nope, was hoping to do it now, and orbital should be easier

[fluid cave]

Yakovee or I will step down and assist as needed

[zealous palm]

Cool cool, I want to DM eventually, and I know I need to tac-com first lol

[fluid cave]

Once we get the PNGs I'll remake my OBR guide to help people.

[summer thunder]

As a unit of infantry in a largely orbital taskforce, what combat if any can be expected for the unit to actually engage in?

[quasi crown]

Well, boarding actions

[rapid sorrel]

Anti-boarding

[fluid cave]

Someone boarding your orbital otherwise you man the guns

[quasi crown]

If we can get a crew with breaching pods

[rapid sorrel]

It's not going to be glorious, but it will be campaign saving if the wrong ship gets boarded/hijacked

[zealous palm]

man the guns, anti boarding, reload the guns, anti boarding, oh and shooting the guns

[rapid sorrel]

I can't imagine what you guys would go through if you had the Primo Victoria turn on you

[rare lantern]

Our ships aren't great for Boarding pods, since boarding pods only works on armor 1 or less, so for a boarding ship, you'd want to be fast enough to flank an orbital to ignore the armor

[quasi crown]

If only I had the req 😦

[fluid cave]

You might want a Flight deck so I can come bring you some anti marines if you need to fill more CS

[quasi crown]

having a corvette or destroyer or hell even a LF do that would be good

[zealous palm]

hum, fast enough, LF and Corvettes might actually make good boarding pod ships thinking about it

[rapid sorrel]

I can pick one up, but I need one more Autocannon as well

[solar ravine]

Or we could ball all our aerospace together and say Hi to an enemy orbital with a flight deck.

[north crown]

I can do that

[fluid cave]

I'm off for a few hours to get some work done.
Ping me if I'm needed

[rapid sorrel]

Can you snag 1 Autocannon and 1 flight deck?

That would fill us out

[fluid cave]

You'd still need people to run all those weapons

[zealous palm]

we have 8 signed up so far

mostly crew

[fluid cave]

I think Cbass is moving to the Avairy

[rapid sorrel]

We don't need them manned all at once, we can swap to unman guns that don't have targets

Because interiors don't exist atm, crossing between them isn't an issue

[fluid cave]

Yes, but you only fire at the end of your turn.

[lyric turret]

Internal teleporter BS

[old hill]

question for anyone that made a orbital crew recently, do you remember seeing Scanner System? I only see direction sensor suite listed

[rapid sorrel]

True but orbitals are slow, we'll likely have time to respond

[quasi crown]

I don't remember seeing that or armory

[solar ravine]

That reminds me...
we did yoink some sort of teleporter in C3, whatever became of that?

[zealous palm]

above the Directional scanner, it's CS1, vs CS2 for teh Directional

[rapid sorrel]

Probably sold it

[lyric turret]

If the marines are anti boarding is it better to split amongst all the ships?

[zealous palm]

in the V5 doc, not sure if it's in the shop

[quasi crown]

At least be on the ships with flight decks and transport

[rapid sorrel]

It would be, but necessity demands otherwise

[lyric turret]

BTW I'm happy to change class if needed.

[solar ravine]

😭

[zealous palm]

eh, that teleporter was supposed to be reverse engineered, and installed into the Flagship, it might have some use later on, or we might get it as an option in the V6 upgrades

[calm talon]

Huh. Arty are more useful as crew then I realised... A CS-free Arc mount on their version of MBC

not sure if intended

[rare lantern]

The Scanner is not present, for that matter, nor are the Vehicle Bay, Infantry Barracks, Medical Bay, or repair kit storage

[clever axle]

did you check the second page?

[zealous palm]

wait what, dam, yah I don't think that's intended, if so it's kinda broken

[clever axle]

The Arty getting an Arc MBC is intended behavior

[rare lantern]

Well I just tried an got an interaction failed, but that might be on my end

[zealous palm]

for 2 CS

[old hill]

there a second page fo the drop-down menu for the shop?

[zealous palm]

ah, but you have to be an arty to bring it, and it's tied to the arty, a crew/captain, cant make an arty second, and get it then, and bring it on

[rare lantern]

Correction to myself, They are present, just on the second page

[rapid sorrel]

Gonna need like, half a crew of arty players next campaign XD

[rare lantern]

theres a next button above the dropdown

[zealous palm]

yah

[clever axle]

The drop down has a limit of 25 options, so I added pages

[zealous palm]

so that's what the next, and previous buttons were for

[clever axle]

but you did locate a bug for me

[neat cave]

Task force 1 - Victorum: Comms

[clever axle]

unrelated, you didn't even know it had occured

[quasi crown]

Not trying to be difficult but maybe exodia could split into second task force and form a more support role force? Maybe that'd encourage some people to do logi orbitals?

[calm talon]

That requires people with both the req and the interest in being a captain

[zealous palm]

yah, what's our current pop cap though?

[clever axle]

we are at 36, so we could split in theory

[calm talon]

There's like 800 players registered total, no idea how many fit the bill

[quasi crown]

If I had the req I'd be happy too since I thought I could just do captain from creation 😦

[zealous palm]

I counted 34, based on the excel sheet

[calm talon]

But also, this is like day 1. More people will trickle in

[quasi crown]

fair point

[north crown]

I can snag one or the other

[zealous palm]

same Caeles, If I had the rec, I would have my cruiser already, and be captaining that as an escort

[rapid sorrel]

Pick one, I'll pick the other

[north crown]

I’ll take AC then

[rare lantern]

There is most of 2 weeks till launch

[quasi crown]

I was gonna be happy with the free LF lol

[rapid sorrel]

I'll pick up Flight Deck

[north crown]

Do I need to deactivate my unit from the campaign before I buy it?

[zealous palm]

yes

[quasi crown]

yes

[solar ravine]

Yes, active units can't buy upgrades.

[sinful latch]

Question on that, is it repeatable intentionally?

Because I could outfit an entire ship if I spent the req

[north crown]

Okay I have MBC and AC now

[calm talon]

I think all modules are repeatable because you're limited by CS capacity of the ship

[rare lantern]

It is marked repeatable on the equipment doc, so yes

[calm talon]

now, in the case of the special Arty MBC... maybe not a good idea?

[old hill]

Thanks! I had to restart Discord to get it working. It looks like I accidentally took Comms Intercept twice along with the scanner and used my spare Req Point when selecting my two pieces of equipment. Is there someone who can help fix that?

[summer thunder]

Going to dip out for now gentlemen. Eager to engage with the enemy on the ground rather than watch from up above I'm afraid. Very much eager to see what Victorum accomplishes though

[solar ravine]

That would be @clever axle .

[old hill]

Ok I reach out to him later sure he has enough fires to deal with right now.

[brave cape]

fair enough caesar enjoy yourself thats why were all here

[lyric turret]

Alright fleet got DND I'll be on later feel free to msg if we want to move me or switch my class.

[solar ravine]

Hang on
@old hill this is you both times?
I'm a tad confused.

[brave cape]

yeah same here, let me mention im happy too be shuffled if we get more people on ships and better crew is suited for what each ship wants

im sure thats a universal thing like were all a pool of crew but aye, lets smash it

[sinful latch]

7 MBC Arc mounts on a BB. Glorious.

[clever axle]

So you need me to refund a Comms Intercept?

what's the unit name

[old hill]

Null Packet Division

[clever axle]

I will get to this after I finish banning users from the wiki

[old hill]

Was mid switch had a work call I need to take.

should be fix

[edgy harbor]

We have a wiki?

[covert palm]

yeah

its unofficial tho

[edgy harbor]

Huh

[rapid sorrel]

I made a mistake with deactivation, Tori's new Callsign is Victori

[astral tapir]

@brave cape @quasi crown I could use my 2 free req to get 2 autocannons that you 2 could make use of, if things change where we could use your equipments we can change it up. I was going to wait a while anyway before i lock in my stuff with SAM but i could throw it on the doc so it is an option.

[quasi crown]

Sounds good to me

though we may want more hmgs

the fleet so far has only 1 I think

or a LRM

[rare lantern]

So far, Primo has 1, corvus has 1, and we(Exodia) have 1, if we got another we could shift them to give us full coverage

[astral tapir]

Iceraider did buy one for our front but i was thinking of something that you guys could use instead of just waiting around on the ship

[quasi crown]

I'm up for w/e We could even take a repair arm

[astral tapir]

Im just spitballing ideas though nothing I say is forced

[quasi crown]

I think it could be interesting for us to be the utility ship in the TF

[rapid sorrel]

Primo Victoria is maxxed at 14 CS

[quasi crown]

Repair arm and repair kits to keep Primo alive

[rapid sorrel]

Beyond this point, We're gonna have to pick what we want, and what we don't want

[quasi crown]

I just am afraid if we go all in on all the ships being gun boats we may get hosed

[rapid sorrel]

I'll put it on the sheet

[rare lantern]

HMGs do also need to be manned, and running PDC with them uses all the gun's ammo, so to keep up PDC perpetually requires 2 crew dedicated to it(one to fire, and one to immediately reload)

[astral tapir]

I only got 2 req so if we took a repair arm we would only have 2 repair kits, unless we find another crew with their free options.

[quasi crown]

I think it only uses all of its ammo if their is a contact

[rare lantern]

Also I haven't actually bought the MBC and HMG yet, so that can change, but it's what I'm leaning towards

[rapid sorrel]

We might have to ditch ours

We're over capacity

We can heal hits from missiles tho

[rare lantern]

the main thing we'll need HMGs for is PDC I think, since our 7 fighters can probably deal wwith aerospace(hopefully)

[quasi crown]

only if we have a repair arm and repair kits

[rare lantern]

The repair crew team allows a cremember to repair the ship they're on with repair kits

[fluid cave]

Cbass is leaving you remember

[quasi crown]

oh right

[rapid sorrel]

Is he? He's still on the list

[fluid cave]

Here

[rare lantern]

No, Cbass is under Aviary

[rapid sorrel]

Bet, I'll scrub the repair kits and such

[fluid cave]

Look at the other tab to see your current list

[rapid sorrel]

@halcyon spire could you perchance pick up another HMG?

[halcyon spire]

:O This exists, nice :D
I never knew 😅

[halcyon spire]

Sure.

[rapid sorrel]

I'm on mobile, so it's possible mine's a little borked

[quasi crown]

Wait, I'm not seeing carrier under the orbitals sheet. what's its actual class?

[sinful latch]

Battlecruiser

[quasi crown]

Cool

[halcyon spire]

The one called the Aviary

[rapid sorrel]

Actually wait

Don't but the HMG yet

[halcyon spire]

I haven't

[rapid sorrel]

Maybe we should put ours on a mount

[quasi crown]

I'll delete caesar from the sheet since they left the TF

[solar ravine]

See the overview at the top.
What's at each individual ship is supposed to be more of an 'I do this bit' thing.

[halcyon spire]

The HMG comes with an arc (180) though, already pretty good for a cheap price (in terms of CS and req)

[rapid sorrel]

It does?

Oh, then yeah never mind XD

[rapid sorrel]

Just have one on the left and one on the right for 360 protection XD

[quasi crown]

isn't the arc an upgrade too?

[halcyon spire]

Yes, but the HMG comes with it.

[quasi crown]

oh duh nvm

[sinful latch]

Yes, but only for the AC and MBC

[rapid sorrel]

There is, but 2 for the price of 1 that does less with more range is weird to me

[halcyon spire]

I think it's just to make the HMG better since by itself it's a bit of a peashooter.

[rapid sorrel]

Like how if you put your MBC on a turret for the price of 2 MBCs

But yeah so far we have
Front:
2 MBCs
Left:
1 MBC
1 AC
Right:
1 MBC
1 AC
Rear:
Flight deck
Undertermined (but probably front) :
Sensor package

[halcyon spire]

Sensor/comms is 360

Don't need a location for it.

[rapid sorrel]

Not the 1 cost one, I dont't think

[sinful latch]

Don't think Flight Decks have a location either

Technically

[halcyon spire]

Yeah

[halcyon spire]

It's a turret :D

[rapid sorrel]

Then what's the point of the 2 CS one? XD

[quasi crown]

Thoughts on someone getting the mines?

[rare lantern]

other way around, the 1 cost is 360, the 2-cost is 90 with only slight buffs lol

[halcyon spire]

Longer range

[rare lantern]

it gets like 1 extra range

[halcyon spire]

Also more precise/info

[rapid sorrel]

Ah

[halcyon spire]

So yeah, pretty much what IceRaider said, same but with slight buffs/debuffs

[solar ravine]

The extra range on the fixed scanner is way more helpful than it seems - only the LRMs can reach out to range 3.

[fluid cave]

We’d need to spend LS for it. I don’t think we should get it

[rapid sorrel]

It's a fun idea, but we're already stretched on LS as it is

[astral tapir]

Exodia Crew. What does everyone think of me getting a second HMG and an arc upgrade? Can put the MGs on opposite sides and the arc for our MBC?

[old hill]

how are we stretched on LS, we need like 4 to supply the TF for 8 rounds?

[fluid cave]

I think that’s a good Idea.

We’d need to pick what 2 CS we’re taking from Conko and Celeste’s

[fresh stream]

Finally home, name is in the doc now.

[quasi crown]

Maybe mech bay and the heavy drop?

[solar ravine]

Each battlegroup we decide to hold takes the space of 1 LS to begin with, and we might need extra LS to do fast movement or Sortie.

Sortie in particular takes 1LS per round and 10 units doing it.

[fluid cave]

Or if we’re gonna look for another crew memebse with things.

[quasi crown]

or take both of mine and we convince a mech to be another turret lol

[halcyon spire]

I can't wait to blast some robots out of the sky... space? That doesn't sound right. Ehh blast some clankers.

[astral tapir]

Was thinking we see if a Inf or mech wants to buddy up or if we get an extra crew

[fluid cave]

I vote we go for the mech bay + door

[quasi crown]

We can do the mech bay and then decide whether we take the heavy drop pods and look for light mechs or the external door and get as heavy of a mech we can

[fresh stream]

Proactive recycling

[fluid cave]

Then we find some extra shooters and maybe an engi

Let's try and recruit an Engi and 2 mechs. Then @brave cape You might get moved to a different Ship

[brave cape]

absolutely fine whatever's best for each ship

im afraid my newbness didnt quite understand the shopping part till id already done it, quite silly but here we are

[quasi crown]

its ok I was in the same boat

I thought I picked the upgrades and then decided whether or not to refit to captain lol

[fluid cave]

It's all okay. You'll still be a good set of hands for whatever ship needs you

[brave cape]

beautiful supple hands indeed

[brave cape]

did the exact same thing yeah, the refit haha, now* we get it

[quasi crown]

I imagine that primo will need reloaders/gunners

[sinful latch]

Don't worry about it, I bought my MBC while not fully decided yet.

Not regretting it, though

[brave cape]

aye me neither, the mental image is very fun

well get there

[quasi crown]

also who knows someone may come in with ships for hot dropping troops

[sinful latch]

And you'll have the options for later, either for your own ship or to join another ship

It's an investment

[brave cape]

weve still got a bit of time to wait and see if more people with req fancy shipping and many hands make light work

so well be able to have our crew pool and then sent wherever were needed

plus we may loose a couple of people as the campaign progresses so even if we end up with reserves, no biggie still plenty of RP to be had

[rapid sorrel]

Primo will take as many people as would like to join, but we should focus on the ships that aren't at full operational capacity

[fluid cave]

We've got enough crew everywhere

[quasi crown]

Shortened my name so its easier to type lol

[fluid cave]

Thank you

[plucky finch]

Question: how is TF Victorum's transport capacity looking?

[rapid sorrel]

Not great

[quasi crown]

yeah, victorum is more space superiority

[solar ravine]

We have practically no deployment options outside of starports.

[fluid cave]

Beyond our people. About 0

[quasi crown]

instead of ground support

[plucky finch]

Hypothetically speaking...

If we crammed a bunch of foot-mobiles in your hulls

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, we go into space and blast other space ships.

[plucky finch]

And had a couple of vehicles in specialty carriers

Could you make a run by a starport and drop everyone off?

[calm talon]

LS is the issue

[fluid cave]

If you wanted us to trasport you.
The anwser is no for now

[rapid sorrel]

We don't have the LS supply

[halcyon spire]

Technically, yes (if we reshuffled things around). But, we don't want to.

[calm talon]

If we had a bunch of spare LS we could technically declare you as cargo and then poot you out at the starport

[rapid sorrel]

We would have little tp nothing to reload

[quasi crown]

That would be a great idea for a different task force

[plucky finch]

Just exploring options.

Since at the moment you guys are the only TF in town.

[rapid sorrel]

We can secure the star port from orbital resistance, but we can't put you on it ourselves

[halcyon spire]

We don't need LS to reload do we?

[calm talon]

Hopefully more captains will come out of the woodwork in the next few days

[halcyon spire]

Yeah we can secure the star port and then rely on the AI to transport them.

[calm talon]

We need to burn 1 LS to remain in supply for two turns, and being in supply is what allows reloads and carrier ops

[rapid sorrel]

With how much Cobalt likes being a HAT, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a fleet support ship out of him eventually

[fluid cave]

I have a carrier ship planned. But I need a lot of req

[calm talon]

Ye, a ground support VTOL carrier is a cool concept

[halcyon spire]

Where is this listed? I can't find it. I know about sorties though

[fluid cave]

A 1 orbital TF sounds fun

[rare lantern]

WE do, a Taskforce need the "supplied" tag to reload, and it costs 1 LS to make a TF "supplied"

[rare lantern]

Large supply core rules

[halcyon spire]

You need maybe 2 ships at least

[rapid sorrel]

Until you get run out of ammo , encircled and boarded XD

[calm talon]

You can do a 1 obital TF with a BB

[halcyon spire]

Ok thanks. That makes sense.

[calm talon]

but it's stretching it

[solar ravine]

The main problem, afaik, is that we have close to, if not all available or potentially available orbitals in our TF... only people with past campaign experience have enough Req to get captains, and most of them have probably already spent theirs.

We theoretically have the LS to spare, but it seriously cuts into either our supply time or capability

[halcyon spire]

Also making a ground transport vessel isn't the most appealing (to me) 😅 Especially with limited atmo fuel

[fluid cave]

Minimum crew vs Maxium crew

[rapid sorrel]

Landing doesn't take fuel, only getting there does

[brave cape]

just need to be the right size and have the landing gear I suppose

[halcyon spire]

And then taking off, you're limited in the amount of times you can do it before you're stuck doing nothing in the campaign.

[calm talon]

Landing/taking off does not use fuel, Shack confirmed

[rapid sorrel]

So, with a bunch of HMGs, DC bays and mechanics, you could be a veritable fortress for a bit, before you're nuked by artillery

[brave cape]

forgive my ignorance, can we not refuel?

[calm talon]

you only use atmo fuel if you fly in low orbit to interact with tacmap

[halcyon spire]

Not atmo fuel

[brave cape]

now that sounds epic

ah I see thanks

[halcyon spire]

Wait so we can land and takeoff an unlimited amount of times? I wish the rules would be more clear sometimes.

[rapid sorrel]

Especially if you take a medbay

[drowsy lion]

Yeah, y'all are basically our only TF.

Storm is moonlighting with its self-deploy capacity, but... it's sketchy.

[halcyon spire]

I now really want to also make an acclamator

[rapid sorrel]

For an op like Sitka, you'd be perfect

[calm talon]

Yep.

ofc, you're wasting turns transitioning up/down atmo instead of just flying to reposition

so its a tradeoff

[rapid sorrel]

ODTs secure the landing site, you land the main forces, and pray there's not arty XD

[halcyon spire]

When repositioning I'm more expecting to reposition to another tac map rather than the same one, that's what the HATs are for.

[brave cape]

haha that sounds honeslty epic, you could make like a resupply hub ship

that has all the bells and whistles, medbay, cargo, mechanics etc

ton of guns

and then land it where needed

[tacit ridge]

How many mechs does Victorum want, how many do they have currently and can a mech operating externally be Evasive?

[halcyon spire]

Unfortunately more cargo bays = less hit points, so it's land and pray no shenanigans occur and that the battlegroup has LOCKED THE PLACE THE FUCK DOWN

[rapid sorrel]

That's been changed I believe

[halcyon spire]

idk, idk, Probably not

[rare lantern]

Cargo bays don't cost hits anymore

[calm talon]

That's likely a no on the evasive.

[halcyon spire]

Ah damnit, these changes keep happening XD

[rapid sorrel]

Ikr? XD

[halcyon spire]

Better for our transport ships at least :D

[solar ravine]

I wonder what the starports reaction to us landing is going to be...
A single light freighter radioing in the approach, and then 3 fkn battlecruisers and a full-on battleship dropping out of the clouds in formation.

[rapid sorrel]

Woulda been nice to be able to plan for ahead of time, I'd totally swap out HMGs for Cargo Bays XD

[tacit ridge]

Best of luck then gents and I shall bother you no longer

[brave cape]

have fun out there mate

[jovial otter]

Assuming that the entire TF doesn't get hit with a minefield at the start.

[halcyon spire]

Probably like, these outdated cruiser sized federation vessels that are falling apart are going against the clankers, we're so doomed

[solar ravine]

Oh that would SUCK.

[halcyon spire]

Remember, we're broke and our equipment is questionable.

[brave cape]

I imagine the bots have taken control of large sectors, dont they control the spaceports too?

my god thats true tho

[rapid sorrel]

Enter the Primo Victoria one shotting a frigate 🤣

[brave cape]

its the best way of defending the gate, tons of mines

[drowsy lion]

I mean, the VTOLs are coming as well, so...

[fluid cave]

Not anymore. Cargo bays don't cost hits

[drowsy lion]

This is why we are trying to secure the Spaceports-

[halcyon spire]

On the map they only control half of Tora and one gate (so far)

[halcyon spire]

I can't wait to unlock MAC

[rapid sorrel]

Don't you dare imply they have minefields XD

[fluid cave]

2, 0, I think so

[drowsy lion]

Intel is from 2-3 weeks ago.

[brave cape]

reminds me of the wormhole and self replicating mines from deep space nine, how exciting

[halcyon spire]

Jesus Christ Shack, stop uploading images that are this big.

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, that's why I said (so far), maybe half the map iss gone by now

[drowsy lion]

Yeah...

[brave cape]

CANT WAIT TO FIND OUT!

bring extra plasters

[drowsy lion]

Storm might be super screwed-

[rapid sorrel]

Do you guys think Shack is gonna say the thing?

[drowsy lion]

The thing?

[halcyon spire]

https://tenor.com/view/venator-star-wars-clone-wars-clones-hyperspace-gif-2247054792156333419

[rapid sorrel]

"Launch all fighters, prepare for combat"

It's one of his AOTR lines

[halcyon spire]

Captain Shack of the Liberation.

[rapid sorrel]

Which is hilarious because the Liberation is an endurance carrier, and cannot launch all fighters, but still XD

[jovial otter]

I've this one train of thought about what could happen. Namely, we get hit with a minefield. Then when the TF gets bogged down trying to clear the minefield, we go into the city. Then when every BG is on the ground, an entire enemy fleet comes in together with a whole enemy ground force, and we'd be forced to evac everyone with the limited air transport capability we have.

But that's just an assumption, the hope is that everything goes well.

[halcyon spire]

If we hit a minefield and it has more than one use, we're never flying into that sector of space ever again... Wait... They won't have interdiction capabilities right?

[solar ravine]

That'd be an exceptional chain of bad luck.
Which means it could very well happen, 'cause Murphy is an asshole.

Actually, that reminds me of Stormchaser from C3...
A bunch of vehicles deployed via VTOL and promptly found a minefield right under their asses.

[rapid sorrel]

Also, I imagine Primo Victoria, after undergoing Armco refit from being mothballed to have both bridges, combined since it no longer needs a seperate fighter operations bridge, and it's one bridge is a little more squat against the tower.

With the ventral hangar bay filled with weapon bays for the 4 MBCs, with 2 down the ventral bay, and 1 on each little winglet. The Autocannons hogging up the small side hangars and the HMGs where the fleet logo sits.

[halcyon spire]

That's kind of funny in hindsight XD

[rapid sorrel]

Painted orange instead of red, of course

[halcyon spire]

Nice

[rapid sorrel]

That happened to me in C2 XD, was driving my little tracked SPG alongside the train, and hit a mine, got tracked, and left behind the rest of the campaign

[solar ravine]

"Alright, we're good to go, thanks for the lift"
baoum
"Sigh... can we get a pickup please?"

[halcyon spire]

Of course OLD was part of it 😆

[fluid cave]

OLD is a mech. The HOLD is their order

[halcyon spire]

Oh yeah, this was before we expanded on the tac com rules, damn Shack had a harder time than I thought 😅

[solar ravine]

And the duplicated Foxbats. The Foxbats! 😱

[covert palm]

"mooooom the dictator left mines! I need a pickup!"

[jovial otter]

But ya, I'm sort of convinced that we'll be royally fucked when we make land fall, either by bad intel or an enemy mass ambush.

[halcyon spire]

I reckon we'll be fine once the battlegroups make landfall, but a week afterwards the screaming commences.

[north crown]

I was contemplating getting us air fuel to punch a hole turn one but that sounds very risky so that idea went out fast

[jovial otter]

Technically, is there any reason why Air can't bomb the shit out of our LZs first while the BGs land?

Have our guys go full wild weasel and SEAD to make everyone's life easy.

[north crown]

Called targets they have to see them first

[calm talon]

air can't spot ground units

[jovial otter]

Fair enough.

Wait, even if they shoot up?

[north crown]

Unless they just wanna bomb an area which then it’s up to shack if he wants to allow it

[north crown]

What do you mean?

[rich gulch]

We would need to have confirmation all targets are hostile.

[calm talon]

There's a reason that the A-10 is so fucking hated.

[jovial otter]

Ok, so indiscriminate bombing is out. Understood.

[jovial otter]

If I shoot an AA missile at an air unit, and it evaded, is the enemy ground unit revealed, then?

[north crown]

Not unless another ground unit has LOS

Although technically if a quad AA gun shoots them coming down they are forced to drop on them right? Cause if the air intercept rule?

Or is that a case of cheesing the rules shack?

[calm talon]

I mean, SEAD gameplay would be interesting I think, but too late for this campaign

[rich gulch]

🤔 So your asking if you fly your fighter into hostile airspace and ground units fire at you. Do you now get to know we're those units launched from?

[north crown]

I’m talking about bombers specifically and how the air intercept tag works when a quad AA gun from the ground fires

[jovial otter]

Yee, that's my question. Because logically, you should know where you suddenly got enemy radar spiked/tone.

[rapid sorrel]

Also, while we're at it, if a bomber gets downed, does the payload go off when the bomber crashes?

[north crown]

Cause it says they can only target the unit that shot at them

[rich gulch]

not sure how logical it is to think you'll know a location of a tiny vehicle or infantry unit just because they yeeted a super fast missle at you. Your gonna be busy trying not to die.

[jovial otter]

Fair. Gotta ask if it'd be possible, at least. :p

[rich gulch]

Its not a video game. You don't get to know the exactly launch location of a hostile weapon system because it aggroed you. Now that aside would I reveal them. Yeah probably because its hilarious the players are willing to take that chance.

[calm talon]

It's more like the tank quad AA shouldn't have ASF Interceptor tag

[rich gulch]

Could easily be hand waved as "defense systems on board make that kind of information"

[north crown]

Why? Out of curiosity

[halcyon spire]

That's a no.

[calm talon]

If I'm a fighter, and a quad AA opens up on me, I'm not going to fly into the fire to attack it. Makes no sense.

[rapid sorrel]

Damn, would be an awesome final send off for a downed bomber

[jovial otter]

I mean, knowing how networked air force stuff are now, it probably wouldn't be too far fetched if everyone in the area knows that there's enemy anti air that just shot at a jet in the rough location.

That's also roughly how SEAD works too.

[calm talon]

Sure, but the fighter being targetted is too busy trying not to die

[jovial otter]

Yep.

[rapid sorrel]

Pull a Shed, send fighters in so the AA targets them and not your bombers 🤣

[north crown]

Right but what about if your a bomber flying a SEAD mission?

[calm talon]

If you're doing SEAD, your entire goal is to spot radar and yeet a homing missile at it, not getting shot at 😛

[jovial otter]

In any case, the god has spoken, and I'm not in any mood to contest his word.

[calm talon]

But anyway, it works how it works for now

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, disagreeing with god doesn't end well. 😅

[rich gulch]

AA intercept tag has a point that has nothing to do with SEAD missions

[jovial otter]

Wild Weasel are the guys who are loaded up with everything to avoid getting shot down, while being very enticing to be shot at.

[rich gulch]

Its to actually allow AA to protect against Air Targets from striking.

[north crown]

Hold one pls shack let me re read before I quote incorrectly from my memory😂

[calm talon]

I'm not sure the execution is quite what it needs to be (in terms of pulling aggro instead of causing a disad of some kind), but I'm not going to continue nagging, especially on a subject that doesn't actively impact me

[rich gulch]

woops. Just noticed I'm totally in the wrong channel.

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, after all we're clearly superior with our choice of unit. :D /j

[rich gulch]

Thought this was general meta. My bad!

[north crown]

Nvm I read that wrong

[rapid sorrel]

Blessed by both Cheese and Shack himself!

WE ARE CHOSEN!

Come brethren! We cannot fail!

[halcyon spire]

We're also (currently) the only task force 😅
More glory for us!

[north crown]

Lmaooo we better preform well in space

[halcyon spire]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-space-battle-battle-over-coruscant-battle-of-coruscant-gif-26524826

[north crown]

We are literally the only thing between everyone else and enemy orbitals at this moment

[halcyon spire]

We probably should speed run the southern path to block off the clankers orbitals.

Assuming they haven't taken it already.

[north crown]

But we also carry almost the entirety of the fleets LS with us so we can’t entirely abandon direct orbit either

[rapid sorrel]

Victorum's logo should totally be a sword, on a shield, in a winged border

[halcyon spire]

Remember taskforces have to stay together, we can't exactly split off.

[north crown]

Hold on let me grab the map and we can try to get an initial plan ironed out

[jovial otter]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-riot-torches-pitchforks-gif-5859895

[halcyon spire]

Here's a version that isn't 20MB.

[north crown]

Ya I know I’m just making sure we’re aware that we can’t leave the ground forces unsupplied cause rn we’re their only source

[halcyon spire]

Oh... SHi...

[halcyon spire]

We don't have the LS for that.

Pray for someone to make a supply taskforce

[halcyon spire]

W1 is definately the priority with W2 being nice to have

[north crown]

I was thinking one of those two in purple should be where we try to hold

I really want the wreckage field

[calm talon]

I mean. If we're on top of a tacmap, and we're in supply, HATs can land and pull small supply from us... But that's not very optimal for us as a TF

[halcyon spire]

Do you think we could try to shut down the gate?

[rapid sorrel]

Even a taskforce of LFs wth cargo bays would require 15 people with 3 Req

[north crown]

With what shock said about them building units that seems like it’s gonna be terrible for the robots to hold

[rapid sorrel]

We might be able to break it if necessary

[slow whale]

Problem is if we are holding those Nav points they will just go over Ziyal City

[north crown]

Unfortunately, the ground forces are gonna have to deal with that. There’s only so much we can hold without opening our back lines to them, sneaking in orbital force through.

[rapid sorrel]

I don't think we can make it to Ziyal before them anyways

[halcyon spire]

We're only one task force, specialised in space combat, refer to what Yakove said

[rapid sorrel]

If we break L-W1, they will have to go all the way around and we will have more time to secure land

[north crown]

I’m convinced they might already be in the when we get there. We are not a very fast task force.

I’m not saying this to be like a commander, but we need to pick a choke point and hold it cause we cannot be playing reactively. We don’t have the speed in the task force for that.

Unless the enemy is also big and lumbering in which case it’s just gonna be a really fun slugging match

[drowsy lion]

Just to spite you, I should file for Storm Blessed to be considered both a Battlegroup and a Taskforce.

[halcyon spire]

This mission is going to have losses.

[drowsy lion]

Okay, that is most definitely true-

[slow whale]

Yeah we are kind of in a pickle. Too many points of contention for us to be at. And if we are truly the only taskforce we will need to get some supply to the ground at some point. I guess we could sortie Cobalt to an HQ to supply for some turns.

[halcyon spire]

Jokes on you, you need orbitalss to make a task force.

[calm talon]

There are no chokepoints tho? You can fly orbitals over the planetary spots.

[rapid sorrel]

We can beat them to L-W1, either shut down or destroy and have control of Cell'dar by the time they get there

[halcyon spire]

Wait, could our HATs/VTOLs pick up supply from the gate?

[calm talon]

So unless we have two combat TFs to hold both the points east of the planet...

[halcyon spire]

Since Shack confirmed they can fly to and from there.

[drowsy lion]

Southpaws is trying to do that.

Storm is going to be carrying 20+ Small Supply.

[quasi crown]

HAving a second task force with mines would be good for this

[halcyon spire]

Mines don't stop ships unfortunately. 😅 Just some damage at the cost of LS

[north crown]

Nav-l2 is where I would like to hold

[halcyon spire]

Agreed.

[north crown]

But I don’t think we’re gonna get that far. I get the feeling L one or L2 are going to be where the fleet meet.

[slow whale]

Did he confirm they can fly from there or just fly down to orbit on their own?

[rapid sorrel]

If we average a speed of 2 for them, we can't beat them

[slow whale]

As far as I know any dashed lines are for jump capable ships

[rapid sorrel]

It'd be a slugging match off the bat

[north crown]

I think we’re gonna be stuck at speed one I don’t believe we can afford to burn the large supply on boosting the battleship I pray I’m wrong and we get more large supply

[halcyon spire]

Out of the gate all the way to the planet

#shack-chat message

[halcyon spire]

Best save the LS, burning it early could easily cause issues.

[drowsy lion]

Clarify - there are a number of individual nodes that, if held, force the opponent to spend extra movement to get around or fight through. Not true "chokepoints", but still strategic enough to hold.

[drowsy lion]

Dashed and Dotted are for Space/Aerospace.

[north crown]

Does anyone wanna help me run math for a large supply? And does anyone remember how much one large supply can supply a ground battle group?

[halcyon spire]

Full screenshot

[drowsy lion]

What's the math that needs to be done?

[north crown]

Trying to figure out how much large supply we’re going to use just for ground, ignoring our task force

[rapid sorrel]

If we say we can only do one jump, and them two that puts us on L-W1 and them on LW-2 on either side of the jump, we could theoretically make it if they only have a speed of 1 but that's risky

[slow whale]

Hmm interesting. I'll have to look at the rules again.

[north crown]

So I think LW one is our best shot then we can always push further

[halcyon spire]

It would be easier if it said where medium supply came from, I'll keep looking

[north crown]

If we can fortify that system, I think we have a pretty good shot. Our big ships just need to stay close together so that we can’t get flanked and spanked😂

[drowsy lion]

As in deploying them?

[jovial otter]

More importantly, the TF need to maintain Local Supremacy, else our resupply ends up fucked and the BGs need to evac.

[north crown]

No, we definitely cannot deploy them. I’m talking about just keeping them supplied so like artillery guns can keep firing in bombers can rearm.

[calm talon]

One LS supplies a TF or Airfield for 2 turns. Airfields generate medium supply for FOBs, Infinite small supply pulled from active FOBs and TFs

[drowsy lion]

If an HQ/Airfield is supplied with LS, an unlimited amount of Medium Supply can be pulled from it for that turn.

[halcyon spire]

Looks like the same as the task force 1 large supply for 2 rounds of unlimited supply

[north crown]

Oh thank God, we’re not as screwed as I thought we were that actually isn’t terrible

[halcyon spire]

And we have 14 LS in total so far.

[calm talon]

Biggest issue is supplying multiple tacmaps at once.

[halcyon spire]

Also this is fpr one Ground HQ, there could be more than one on a tac map

[calm talon]

But not having to figure THAT out is why I'm not in a logi group

[fluid cave]

I can pull medium supply for them and let them set up FOBs

[halcyon spire]

The engineers need to make sure they've planned this stuff out.

[drowsy lion]

14LS is 28 turns. Let's say 16 turns from 8LS, and that 5 LS is burned in Sorties and Speed, as well as 1 more LS being used to setup a Airfield.

[halcyon spire]

And then there's airfields...

[north crown]

@sage turtle might have some LS for you don’t wanna get your hopes up tho

[drowsy lion]

Only 2 ENGI units capable of setting up an Airfield so far, and they have only expressed interest to setup 1 so far.

[halcyon spire]

Good for logi, bad for all the air units that want to rearm. That's going to be jam packed.

[rapid sorrel]

Elim probably has one

[north crown]

I really want them to set up under the point of L1

But that does put them right in the line of fire so that might be a bad idea

[rapid sorrel]

I say, we hold L1, and take the mine with ground unita

[calm talon]

Hmm. Can someone pin the map in this chat? Kinda inconvenient going looking in other chat every time

[north crown]

I’m gonna try to convince one of the ground task forces to take the Celldar mine because that gives us pretty easy access to dropping LS straight down to them

[halcyon spire]

Pasting map again because I'm getting lost

[north crown]

Thank you I was just about to do that

[halcyon spire]

You mean W1?

[rapid sorrel]

Yes

[north crown]

Blue is where I want us to try and hold if we can actually get there. Yellow is where I’m hoping to convince at least one BG to drop.

[rapid sorrel]

We start the front there, and then we can push into W2 if needed

[halcyon spire]

The problem with that is that opens W1 for the machines

[halcyon spire]

~~Unlikely, ~~they would need the transports/spaceport

But more people are joining so it's possible

[slow whale]

Wouldn't the only group that could deploy at the Mine quickly be Storm Blessed?

[rapid sorrel]

We aren't going to beat them to W2, if they have speed 2, but there's no way they have speed 3, and if they do Primo Victoria can clear them out quite easily

[north crown]

Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about

[sage turtle]

Anything would be helpful, we are really struggling to find space for people in rabbit

[halcyon spire]

For now yes, but there's still people joining and plans and maybe a second taskforce. Too early for anything concrete

[drowsy lion]

Our original plan was to drop in Cell'Dar, but given that ARMCO has no Deployment Capability, Storm will be dropping to secure a starport. Hopefully, ELIM city has one.

grumbling about crap intel

[sage turtle]

Not to mention a place to launch rabbit's fighters and VTOLs would be desperately needed

[slow whale]

Very true, still a lot of people not in yet.

[drowsy lion]

Currently, yeah. Only us, but priority has to be getting more people on the ground.

[halcyon spire]

That's a tough one 😅

[north crown]

Will keep you boys updated but I think we should have enough

[halcyon spire]

The problem is, if they're linked to the task force, they kind of give up being rabbit

[rapid sorrel]

This sounds solid in theory, my only concern is the fact that we're working with dated information

[north crown]

Understandable we will hold orbit for you boys just kick some ass down there

[halcyon spire]

Probably more reason to push them out of W1

[north crown]

Yeah, I really don’t wanna be responsible for another hat getting blown up on drop day🫤

[lyric juniper]

I was at work all day :/ unfortunate timing for me, y'all filled on aerospace assets?

[rapid sorrel]

I really wish Damar was reachable from Lussan

Would be cool if we got another chance for BP scouts

[halcyon spire]

Looks like we have space

[rapid sorrel]

Primo has a free flight deck

[halcyon spire]

I get confused looking at the sheet sometimes

[covert palm]

Yeah the blue spot is good to hold

But if they run rampant over the planet….

[sage turtle]

Hopefully rabbit will get a good foothold on that

[lyric juniper]

I can bring my own flight deck if needed, I'm just having a bit of a time trying to figure out if there's the CS available

[drowsy lion]

Yeah... at that point, Storm will probably need to hot-drop and end up gutted anyways just to get ARMCO on the ground.

[rapid sorrel]

We do not have CS slots available XD, just an empty flight deck so Cobalt can bring in emergency marines if we get boarded

It is empty though, if you want it

[fluid cave]

Or I can steal your LS to bring to the ground if needed

[north crown]

We have a flat 14 large supply starting without any mods, right

[halcyon spire]

13 + 1 cargo bay I believe

[lyric juniper]

That's a free flight deck on the Primo Victoria, or the PEC Exodia?

[halcyon spire]

Check it, looks good

[north crown]

So if we assume 10 rounds of ground combat, that’s five gone another 10 rounds in space is another five gone so that’s 10

[warped vessel]

On the sheet the Primo Victoria has 12 total CS but doesn't the rules say Battleships are 14?

[lyric juniper]

Yeah, I think they're at 12/14 used

[halcyon spire]

Because we haven't used the last 2

[rapid sorrel]

Primo Victoria

[warped vessel]

Ok, I thought that was the total it could have

[rapid sorrel]

We have, the sheet's not updated

[fluid cave]

What is it missing

[halcyon spire]

Refer to the top with base CS and Act CS

[solar ravine]

Noted, changed to "Used CS"

[north crown]

This checks out right? So at a minimum we need to reserve 10 large supply and we can maybe use the rest to help out? Anyone have any objections or recommendations?

Sorry if I’m going over the top I’m just really excited to be organizing this again

[halcyon spire]

I would rather keep the remaining 3-4 just in case, but it's there if we need it for something else.

[fluid cave]

I'd say keep extra on hand. Proabably 12 would be better

[lyric juniper]

we've got like four vet taccoms in here lol, this will be a very well organized group

[north crown]

So we reserve 12 then we have two free that we can either use to boost our own movement or just hold for emergencies that sounds pretty good to me

[halcyon spire]

Not just vet tac coms but also vet players, we're very prepared.

[rapid sorrel]

We have
4 MBCs = 8
2 Auto Cannons = 2
1 Flight Deck = 1
1 Sensor package = 1
2 HMGs = 2

14

[slow whale]

Keep in mind we might be able to stagger our supply usage. Doesn't have to be one every 2 turns. Could get like 12-13 turns with 5 LS

[solar ravine]

And for now, I sleep. 0515 over here, Sun's already gone up.

[drowsy lion]

Jokes on you, the rules say,

A Task Force is focused on space and most air operations made up of mostly orbital and aerospace assets with player units aboard acting as crew.

mostly orbital and aerospace assets.
We're more than 50% aerospace assets, so... Hah!

... okay, fine, I'm cutting out important context on how Task Forces carry Battlegroups.

[covert palm]

And… how many GMs are in here? At least 1?

[north crown]

True, I’m just doing worst case scenarios

[halcyon spire]

😆

[fluid cave]

Just you

[rapid sorrel]

Unsure if ALX picked up the HMG or not

[lyric juniper]

and Cheese right?

[halcyon spire]

I can, I was unsure if we needed them 😅

[drowsy lion]

ENGI will probably requisition 1 LS to setup an airfield so that we can actually resupply and rearm on the ground.

[halcyon spire]

Teej got one HMG, should I buy the other one?

[fluid cave]

Cheese isn't a GM

[rapid sorrel]

We need 1 more

[covert palm]

Ok important question:

if we really are the only orbital force. Should we just beeline it to the western city to secure a drop point for the rest of Armco?

[fluid cave]

I think we need to

[halcyon spire]

No.

[north crown]

The map for a reminder

[covert palm]

Can we just send a sortie there?

[halcyon spire]

The aerospace assets can deal with that imo

Not even our ones, just the battlegroup ones

There's a lot of them.

[rapid sorrel]

We can if we want to burn the LS

I'm not sure we want to

[north crown]

That is also a good point if we want to sortie the fighters and bombers we do have we definitely need to reserve all of our LS

[halcyon spire]

Oh yeah, so should I buy that other HMG?

Y/N?

Sorry I read your response from earlier

[rapid sorrel]

Yes, we only have the 1 at the moment, 2 180 arcs gives us 360 protection

[halcyon spire]

I'm blind and chat moves fast sometimes 😅

[north crown]

Lmao fair

I started voice typing just so I could keep up

[rapid sorrel]

From at least 1 missile from either side that is XD

If only we could have a side thread for each ship XD

[north crown]

Lmaooo that would be fun

So is everyone OK with this initial plan for the moment?

This is assuming we don’t get any new information in which case we will definitely reevaluate

[halcyon spire]

HMG added to PV

[quasi crown]

can I get a recap?

[lyric juniper]

who bought the flight deck? As its still not listed

[rapid sorrel]

Me

[north crown]

Blue is where we wanna hold in orbit yellow is where we’re hoping to get a ground force to build an airfield so we can directly drop the large supply to them

[rapid sorrel]

I have an MBC and Flight Deck, I picked it up when Yakove picked up his AC

[slow whale]

The only thing I want to make sure of is if we need to "secure" said space port everyone will be landing at.

[north crown]

I think it’s a safe bet we will want to, although that is definitely a question to ask shack

[calm talon]

Blue and yellow are separate strategic points afaik. So we won't be able to "directy drop" supply without a sortie

[drowsy lion]

Correct! Which will suck.

[north crown]

Yeah, the idea is more of that we can move quickly if we’re not being threatened

[calm talon]

At least I think they're meant to be separate strat points?

[north crown]

I am praying we get another battle cruiser or even just a damn cruiser so that we have the extra LS

Actually, that’s a good question

[slow whale]

Only say is because he put it in big bold letters in the briefing.

[rapid sorrel]

Just an LF with 2 cargo bays will be a godsend at this point XD

[calm talon]

Also, if the ground BG we cooperate with have logis we can drop small supply without burning LS

[north crown]

Yeah, God, we just need the extra to be able to sortie

[north crown]

We can?

I thought we had to burn LS to supply ground

[calm talon]

If our TF is in supply, HATs can land and pull infinite small supply

[north crown]

Oh, that’s a good point

[calm talon]

then can then use the logi coordinated drop ability to fly over logi and drop said supply to them

[fluid cave]

Yep. I can drop Small or Medium supply down to them. But we'd need to be above a ground map

[halcyon spire]

@rapid sorrel Has both light freighter and battleship active at the same time XD

[north crown]

So basically, our problem loops back around to we need more orbitals

[rapid sorrel]

Then we need to pair with whoever has the highest amount of HATs to be as effective as possible

[rapid sorrel]

Yeah, it's cause the BS is considered an upgrade XD

[slow whale]

Man forgot to store it. Now he's got it towed behind

[rapid sorrel]

Oh is that how it works?

[lyric juniper]

You can't deactivate free upgrades last I heard, so it just is always active, and always lost on death, as it just comes back with the new unit

[slow whale]

Yeah I stored mine.

[fluid cave]

It means we need 2 TFs. One to hold orbit and one to assit the ground

[halcyon spire]

@rapid sorrel We appear to be 1 CS over capacity

I cut off the box saying 15

[rapid sorrel]

Comms intercept is the extra

[halcyon spire]

Alright, I'll remove it

[rapid sorrel]

Up to you if you want to use the HMG or intercept

I didn't realize you had both, my bad

[halcyon spire]

I physically can't remove the intercept since I bought it with the free points 😅

Going to Ctrl Z quite a bit, brb

[lyric turret]

How we doing lads nice wall of text.

[halcyon spire]

Pretty good, we have a simple plan. :D

[lyric turret]

Hold the point

[north crown]

Or die trying

[calm talon]

Hmm. Since we have no intel to start with... Would it make sense to burn a LS to yeet some fighters on a recon flight?

[north crown]

I was thinking we could send our entire air wing for shits and giggles

But that’s if we have extra LS let’s wait for the confirmation on that

I have three ground groups asking for large supply unfortunately I don’t think we have any to give them

[halcyon spire]

We could maybe spare a few but we cannot dedicate any logistics into doing so.

Too expensive.

[drowsy lion]

Three???

I only saw 1 request-

[halcyon spire]

Honestly, not as much as I was expecting considering we're the only task force.

[halcyon spire]

Chat moves fast, keeping track of everything is impossible.

[north crown]

I asked for people to DM me to see if anyone was interested in our plan. A lot of people took that as meaning my dms were open but not a big deal

[drowsy lion]

Ah.

[quasi crown]

I'd rather keep our fighters for defense

[jovial otter]

Kinda wanna write an Ops Plan for the set up

[rapid sorrel]

We can roll with the one HMG if you wanna keep it, I honestly forgot you got the intercept

[halcyon spire]

Could you elaborate?

[rapid sorrel]

Interesting thought, but I'm not of the mind that it's worth the LS and risk

Thats 3 turns worth of cannon fire, for the chance of losing a fighter wing

[halcyon spire]

Also gives more time for the machines to move up

[rapid sorrel]

The more we stay together, the more we stay alive, and the more we hold

[lyric juniper]

Collated the Aerospace assets

[rapid sorrel]

Also, Knightmare, I love you for being a bomber

[lyric juniper]

Our second torp bomber too

orbitals fear us

[fluid cave]

Just remember we have a second tab. (Did not open doc)

[halcyon spire]

Thanks

[rapid sorrel]

A big help if we need to finish a crippled ship that evades our cannons Primo Victoria's personal attack dog XD

[fluid cave]

Just an Idea:
If the Exodia picks up 2 mech and an Engi for the mech bay. (And transfer Conko to a different Hull)
The Lonely heir (3 min) the Black pearl (2) and Exodia (8) would be 2 away from being able to act as a new TF. That would give us for flexibility in exchange for splitting out supplies.

Food for thought as I go to bed.

[jovial otter]

Like a full ops order with what everyone is doing, up until point of contact.

[halcyon spire]

Oh, nah. We wing it. :D

[jovial otter]

Based on what each BG/TF has planned

[halcyon spire]

Oh, consisting of each BG/TF? Someone made something like that.

[jovial otter]

Ya, I'm just thinking, and am tempted.
But I also technically should be doing this for a living, so ya

[jovial otter]

Oh?

[halcyon spire]

#meta-comm message

[jovial otter]

Ok ya, was thinking something more in depth than that.

[rapid sorrel]

Do we know how they plan to make it to Ziyal?

[halcyon spire]

Thought so, but this would help if you decided to go ahead with that.

[halcyon spire]

I do not wish to find out as the process of doing so means checking, every single battlegroup... And doing it constantly and plans change constantly.

[rapid sorrel]

XD

[jovial otter]

Depends on my schedule, and my mood. Point of consideration, I've a job, I'm rushing to finish my writing by the end of the next week, and I don't have much free time.

[drowsy lion]

I'll assume that they can deal with that after Storm secures a starport and Victorium cuts off a flank.

[jovial otter]

But ya. Thanks.

[halcyon spire]

They're going to walk there.

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[lyric turret]

https://tenor.com/view/not-enough-minerals-carbot-animations-starcrafts-protoss-starcraft-gif-15370921

[drowsy lion]

ARMCO logistics every campaign:

[lyric turret]

Should I change to a ship freighter and run cargo and Point defense instead of a medic?

[rapid sorrel]

I will be on a 5+ hour drive tomorrow, I'm calling it a night right now, if you need me, @me tho I may not respond right away

[north crown]

I’m gonna go hang with friends @ me if you guys need anything

[quasi crown]

if you can I think it'd be helpful

[lyric turret]

Gives us a little more LS and i might not even get the chance to really do the medic part.

I'll wait till tomorrow and see if more sign up.

[rare lantern]

Do you have the 3 req it takes to get a ship?(one to buy crew, 2 to refit to captain and get the free ship)?

[halcyon spire]

If you do grab a freighter you should check on the (tentative) paw taskforce since, he may be creating a support taskforce to solve our problems.

#meta-comm message

[lyric turret]

Oops no

[halcyon spire]

Oh, nice XD
Have fun being a medic

[lyric turret]

Was trying to help lol

[north crown]

Unfortunately the req deficit is kicking everyone’s ass

Even just three or four more LS would do a so much

Okay last repost before I hope off for dnd if anyone has a different idea for a plan lmk this is what we currently have! Blue is the orbital point we are thinking of trying to hold yellow is where we’re hoping to land a BG or two to make out supply runs a little bit easier

[quasi crown]

@astral tapir if we are doing a 2nd hmg on exodia we should have it on the opposite arc (aft in this case)

[rare lantern]

If we get a second HMG, we should probably do one port and one starboard

[quasi crown]

fore and aft does the same thing tho

[rare lantern]

port and starboard allows both to fire if the enemy is in front of us

[quasi crown]

fair

[astral tapir]

Yeah i just threw it on there just so it showed we had one. We can throw them on any direction but i feel the sides would be better because if LRMs are hitting the engines some thing terrible has already happened

[halcyon spire]

Fair.

[glad flume]

Any important changes while I’ve been away?

[hard sleet]

Morning Victorium. What did I miss.

[halcyon spire]

This is the plan

[gritty basin]

Good morning everyone, what've you discussed/planned since I went to bed?

[halcyon spire]

The image above.

Also our lack of ability to support the ground but that was planned from the start when we chose to be a space focused task force.

[gritty basin]

Alright, thanks for the refresher

[quasi crown]

the issue is, there is a need for a deployment TF but not enough people who can buy orbitals

[halcyon spire]

Luckily there's still some people who can and are considering doing so. We just need to hope that they can pull together a decently sized task force.

[heady void]

Hey what did i miss?

Also morning

Sure why not, seeing that aviary doesnt have space left, unless some clears up

[void rivet]

Plop

Hello Primo Victorum, some random dude who's gonna make a battlegroup eventually, my question is, which battlegroups are you guys transporting ?

Not asking to transport my future one, just wondering who are you guys able to transport or considering or currently transporting or, whatever, what's the status on that ? 👀

I'll add the answer to my list here #meta-comm message

[fierce sentinel]

Just checking the rules and I think as crew it doesn’t take any extra req to turn into captain. So you can starts as a new player with a light freighter and your two free req points for orbital equipment.

Just wondering now if you could use the 2 orbital equipment req point to get a bigger ship 🤔

[steep jetty]

Unless I missed anything while I was asleep, none(we are combats ships and are not good for transport)

[steep jetty]

Captain is 2 req

[void rivet]

Oh, oh dear.

[steep jetty]

Like I said I may have missed something

[void rivet]

Thanks for the answer

[fierce sentinel]

Oh I’m blind, I was mostly looking at the rules where it didn’t state a cost :/

But in the orbital equipment it states 2 for captain refit.

Whoops sorry for the mistake then

[zealous palm]

Technically we could transport, just need to have HAT'S assigned on start to the flight decks, and bombers/fighters start round 1 escorting. HATs sortie one tile over, to land, turn 1, and carrier ops can start turn 2 with landing and rearming fighters/bombers.

If we do that, we have 35 slots worth of mixed inf/Vic.

[void rivet]

Huh. 🤔

I've written "Unsure" for now because Teej said "No", others said in meta-comm "yes", most are like "maybe", sooo...

Just hit me up with a ping when you guys are sure of whether you can or cannot transport a battlegroup, and if so, which one

[steep jetty]

Don't take my word as law

[void rivet]

YOUR WORD IS LAW MY LORD

[steep jetty]

I have been asleep for alot of planning

[charred fox]

I believe its also a cargo hold issue, Vic is space supremacy currently and use all their customization slots for that

[jovial otter]

There's also a problem that we need to secure the spaceport, or else this op is limited to space only.

[zealous palm]

Like I said, the only way we could transport a BG is by that HAT trick lol, and even then, I'm not sure if fighters/bombers are allowed to be double booked like that. Or if HATs in a BG could be attached to a TF, and still give the TF room.

Also I think HATs and VTOLs can come in alone, loaded up, but just have no home, and only move one tile on the start map? Or am I confused.

[jovial otter]

You're not wrong. Last I heard was something along those lines.

[void rivet]

Yeah like having flight assets attached to the TF works

It's what happend during the orbital test in, well, V4 technically, we had fighters and vtol attached to the taskforce

So you just need HATs then ?

Or has shit changed and this is wrong now ?

[zealous palm]

Cause HATs give 5 DF worth of space, well 5 space worth, and Vic's take up 2.

Eh, it need Captain lvl clearance and confirmation, I'm just saying that's the only way it can happen with our load outs.

Current read is us having 9 flight decks, right? Or did we get the last two needed to cover our two floating aerospace assets?

[timid zinc]

im sure glad im just a fighter and dont gotta think or plan just be pointed at what to shoot

[clever axle]

I also don't have to plan much, I'm fully equipped, it's just Cargo or HDPS

[zealous palm]

I mean, realistically I'm just a crew guy on an MBC lol, that's part of why I want to TAC-COM, I have one of the simplest jobs here otherwise.

[steep jetty]

You can man other things than your MBC but yeah I understand, crew don't have that complex of job

[sinful latch]

Such a mood

[steep jetty]

Though you do have to work together more than other units

[fluid cave]

Sadwolf already moved and you still have your spot on the Avairy.

[fluid cave]

We don’t even know if we’re going to be transporting anyone.

[void rivet]

Huh.

Still unsure then

[sinful latch]

I think it comes down to, do you want transport immediately, or ANY resupply later

I'd pick the resupply

[zealous palm]

Yah, doing the math, if we had 10 flight decks, and each hat had 2 inf and 1.5 Vic on average, that's 45 units total. 20 infantry, 15 Vic's, and 10 HATs, that's 5 LS just to sortie deploy them one tile over if the BG requires LS to be ferried in their HATs.

[calm talon]

If the HATs belong to the BG we don't have to sortie them

[zealous palm]

And those HATs might just be allowed to move alone.

[calm talon]

we just pay to spawn the BG and then kick them overboard

[zealous palm]

Not sure if HATs have to belong to the TF to give their DF to it. If we pay the LS tax, that's 9 LS.

[heady void]

ok cool if that changes lmk

[drowsy lion]

All aerospace can, given they are supposedly space capable in universe.

Storm is self-deployed, but has no orbital escort and has no rearming capability.

[drowsy lion]

No. Any time an aerial unit is separated from its TF, it is considered a Sortie

[rapid sorrel]

I am back for a little bit, I miss anything big?

[halcyon spire]

The red press is single handedly making a new task force

[keen yacht]

Hello

[jovial otter]

Better question I have is whether Storm would be the one to secure our LZ at the spaceport.

[rapid sorrel]

Interesting, are they playing backliner support?

[slow whale]

Morning Lads Finally done catching up on all the chatter.

[halcyon spire]

No idea

[lyric juniper]

You have to spend your two req for being a crew right away, and you can’t buy hulls unless you’re a captain, so no

[rapid sorrel]

It's not 2 free req, it's 2 free req's worth

Like an Orbital equipment loyalty card 🤣

[solar ravine]

Yawns

Gods I overdid it yesterday.
Good Timezone everyone.

[lyric turret]

Kinda hoping we can disable a super freighter and board it for all the LS.

Cause if not it's gonna be rough one unless task force 2 fills out.

[uncut bear]

Costco card for orbital bays lmao

[lyric juniper]

Good timezone to you as well, welcome in, plan seems to be holding steady

[fluid cave]

Good timezone

From a supply perspective I think we might need to move The Black pearl over to TF 2.

[hard sleet]

Daimyo points and about 10 fighters turn the general direction into swiss cheese.

[solar ravine]

And if we want something royally dunked on, I still have my Haven Hellbomb.

Been lugging that one around since the very beginning of Meta 😅

[rapid sorrel]

Does it even still work? XD

[lyric turret]

Why is it rolling around in storage?

[rapid sorrel]

I'm glad he's not on my ship

[calm talon]

Listen, if you have a High Potion, are you going to spend it in a fight with some mooks? Hell no. You have to hoard that until the final boss.

[solar ravine]

The first one worked well enough on Haven.
Haven't yet had a need to drop the other one... or a valid target for that matter.

Now I wonder if I can stick it on the front of a torp... 🤔

Though if I manage to keep it all the way to the retaking of Armitage, I know exactly which poor sod to atomize.

[hard sleet]

Moebius. Do you not get to resupply the hellbomb?

[north crown]

I’m up what have I missed

[calm talon]

someone is magicking a logistics TF into existence, apparently

[rapid sorrel]

Moebius has a hellbomb... apparently

[solar ravine]

Nope, it was always meant as a one-off. Just haven't used both of them yet.

[north crown]

Lmaooo what

[lyric turret]

https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-halo2-bomb-gif-22410478

[hard sleet]

We disbanded apperantly. (This is a joke)

[rapid sorrel]

That's a Shack question if you can use that, but it would be so funny if you did

[solar ravine]

It never got updated as well, so I'm not even sure what it does.
On Haven it was a FS10 AP0 KABOUFFH

[rapid sorrel]

Is....

Is that even useful?

[solar ravine]

Against anything with Hits, not really. Infantry beware though.

Back then, everything was FS

[rapid sorrel]

Just like, throwing a glorified brick at someone's window in a space superiority unit XD

[north crown]

Do we have any updates on other ships or task forces?

[rapid sorrel]

If you sortie to the surface tho, that'd be hilarious

[north crown]

Or are we still the only ones?