Car gang

[stable olive]

I can say the same about many modern cars these days, 1 starts with a V and ends with an F

[vagrant knot]

Never said the new cars are pretty but its just a ugly truck

I mean atleast make it a bit rounder, for sure he took some inspo of the delorean with teh full steel body but like cmmon, atleast that wasnt a brick

[stable olive]

If they made it rounder with the same materials you would be looking at a pick-up truck of at least 500K

[vagrant knot]

Cuz how? They could add round edges and whatnot for not more money

[stable olive]

The thing is the panels are made of cold rolled space grade steel, not to mention unlike an internal chassis like all other cars, this 1 has an exo skeleton, aka the body panels keep the car together.
So yes, it'll make it a lot more expensive to give it more curves.

Cold rolled steel is very impact resistant.

And yes, it would be easier to make it curvy with normal tin cans normal cars are made off, but it'll also reduce the space inside the vehicle

So actually, with the Cybertruck you look straight at the chassis

[remote plume]

Disregarding the look entirely - it's just highly impractical.
Also: giving it "boating" capabilities just makes it so much worse at everything else it claims to achieve

The fact that it isn't allowed in the EU because of pedestrian safety laws alone is a huge point

[bronze gulch]

given its size I don't see it doing well in the eu any way

[remote plume]

Yeah
Y'all seen the new Tacoma??

[bronze gulch]

no is it even bigger than last years

[remote plume]

YES ITS AN F150 FROM JAPAN

[bronze gulch]

that is the tundra

or is it the same size

cause the 2015 ones already make their grandpa look tiny

[remote plume]

https://images.app.goo.gl/yggoESdNgCYjc1Ri6

[bronze gulch]

the f***

[remote plume]

https://images.app.goo.gl/zQdDHYnsNTPcg3pGA
"They are the same picture"

[bronze gulch]

I blame the EPA and the Feds stupid effiency laws

[remote plume]

There's nothing efficient about any of these

[bronze gulch]

they are as large as they are to get around the regulation

[stable olive]

But it's build incredibly strong though

[stable olive]

That's where you are wrong, 1 of the most popular vehicles in EU are actually Dodge Ram Crew cab, and not the cheap ones.

There's not 1 work day I don't see at least 4 of them.

[remote plume]

That does NOT help in any kind of accident except a roll over

[stable olive]

When your vehicle is past a certain size, a crumble zone won't help anyways.
Like the Escalade.
If that thing hits a pedestrian, yes it has a crumble zone, but it's useless as the human just gets launched.

[remote plume]

European car market is filled with VWs BMWs, Mercedes, Škodas and Porsches. There's like 5 American vehicles per city

[stable olive]

I mean, even if you get hit by a small SUV like a Škoda Enyaq you get launched forward.
Also I see 200 Dodge Rams per Porsche

[remote plume]

What do be somewhat mostly American is smaller tow trucks

[stable olive]

I mean we can buy the Ford Ranger, but nope, people prefer the F150 Raptor or Dodge Ram

[remote plume]

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2022-full-year-europe-best-selling-car-manufacturers-and-brands/
This statistic is 2 years old but still valid as it's about new sales

[stable olive]

Who says they aren't bought or imported through not so legal methods?

Volkswagon and Stellantis stay massive because they produce 80% of all vehicles on the road, unlike Toyota and Mazda who don't really have a parent company that owns half the world.

[remote plume]

EU enforcement regarding imports (especially overseas) is pretty unforgiving

[stable olive]

And people don't really care though, especially not in this little country.

People here care all about status.
And a Dodge Ram or F150 Raptor is the top point of status.
It's big and powerful, and most people say it looks nice, to be honest, I am more of an Escalade gal.

[deft musk]

At least in some places, if the car isn't available there in the first place you aren't allowed to import one. You apparently aren't even allowed to import all the bits (a half or full cut) and then assemble it yourself. At least if you want it to be usable on the road

This can include variants of cars that are sold there too

[stable olive]

How they do it here is they buy it in Turkey or Marocco, then drive it here and then register it as a van.

[deft musk]

Cute workaround, wouldn't work in Australia though. 😆
(Not in aus myself, just watch some Aussie cartubers)

[stable olive]

Before you wonder, Netherlands is full of loopholes.
Here you aren't allowed to live in a camper(the 1 with an engine), unless you register it as a house boat.

[deft musk]

Heh

[bronze gulch]

have you seen the mobile luxury appartmets like what exist in the states

[stable olive]

We are allowed to live on a boat, but campers and boats apparently are placed in the same category.
Aka "mobile homes".
But we need a post address which campers don't have but boats for some reason do.
So campers can be registered as a home boat.
Weird loophole I know, considering 1 doesn't float on water very long.

[deft musk]

Wheeled abominations :p

[stable olive]

Those are way too big.

Biggest camper I would buy would be a Niesmann Arto

[bronze gulch]

things slightly smaller than a city bus and have more room and are better furnished than an NYC appartment

[stable olive]

Trust me, I rather buy an N+B Arto over an apartment here.
Here an apartment is like 200K, the N+B Arto is like 150K and gives me way more freedom.

And actually doesn't have a shared bathroom

[bronze gulch]

looks nice

[stable olive]

Unless I build a camper myself, it won't be bigger than the Arto

[vagrant knot]

It isn’t allowed but if it’s registered as a camper u can live in it, you just gotta have a registered address wich a po is good enough

Or just register at a family members house

[stable olive]

A PO isn't enough sadly enough, here you need a house or apartment.
I am gonna register it to my parents house, I hate living in 1 spot.

[vagrant knot]

Mhm I see

Although there’s also a simple way

Unregistered In one and not register in the next

Plenty people who forget after they move and u won’t be in trouble

Just if ya get a fine or smth u might pay more as they can’t send so it goes up

[stable olive]

Simplest way is to register it as a home boat.
Or else you aren't allowed to live in it full time.

It's weird here, only Netherlands has this problem

[stable olive]

Volvo being weird again
https://youtu.be/z9_1RtMTJpE

[potent flicker]

No, they’re the size of a bus

[stable olive]

Okay, Chinese make some sexy MPVs, like the Xpeng X9

[remote plume]

if you squint really hard it looks like a mixture between Audi, Mitsubishi (lancer headlights) and Citroen :D

[stable olive]

I like the Xpeng design though

I wouldn't mind to drive in the X9

[stable olive]

Maybe a weird question in a car channel.
But does anyone know a good place to buy electric motors for motorbikes?

The only 1 I can find that fits in the frame of a motorbike is a 250HP 360v motor for a car.
And going to 360v with batteries means I significantly reduce my range😅

Before you wonder, I want to buy a Niken GT and convert it to electric.

[manic lark]

weird, the only RFs we got in at the dealership i worked at were all manuals. It was great because 90% of the time i was the only person on the lot that knew how to drive stick, so i got to drive them all the time

[flint tangle]

yea every used RF i found for sale in my area was automatic so i ended up buying a 2016 sport convertible instead, BUT a cool surprise i found on this sport was that it was already setup with racing suspension, and after a full inspection of the vehicle (cause i work at a dealership) the only notable thing was that some bushings were just starting to wear on a 65k mile 8 year old car

but yea buy's a used sport convertible, gets a car setup with 2k suspension

[remote plume]

No specific search term or retailer in mind but you're probably best off trying to shop at the manufacturers themselves i.E. On AliExpress and similar sites.
Second best bet is to search for complete conversion kits but most of those are for scooters so they don't come with any gearing that enables speeds above 70 kph

[stable olive]

Most car conversion kits have a motor that's too large.
I seen scooter conversion kits that lets you go up to 110KM/h, but sadly I need to reach 160KM/h.
So I am 50KM/h short.
The only electric motor I could find that's small enough is 1 for an electric race car.

[remote plume]

totally Agree

[stable olive]

So currently I am either stuck with a big motor or an expensive motor

[remote plume]

Ohhh, inexpesnive is out of the equation, be sure of that!

[stable olive]

I mean, I don't need 300HP electric motor in a 300KG touring bike😅

Although that would be the easiest 1:1 conversion ever

[remote plume]

That is true but given that its an electric motor and you probably want some gearbox that enables for faster speeds you will need a motor with more hp.
Maybe you can try searching for motors with specific torque at specific RPMs

[stable olive]

Direct drive would make it easier though, I could keep the original gearbox but I am terrible at changing gears.

I could see if Elaphe has an in-hub motor that may could work

[remote plume]

There is a reason why nearly no EVs use any form of direct drive

If the motor is not already spinning it requires huge amounts of power to get the vehicle in motion which is vastly helped by a reduction gearbox

[stable olive]

I know a few I think that have no gearbox 😃

[remote plume]

Adapting and electric motor to the gearbox of a motorcycle seems near impossible to me.
Also: great opportunity to get less terrible at it (its really not that hard)

[remote plume]

Almost all hub motors have a planetary "gearbox" built-in.

Hang on, if you look for Formula Student discarded motors you could find some really cheap suitable parts!!

[stable olive]

Well, my brain goes "oopsie" when clutching 😃

[remote plume]

Like ask around some nearby universities to buy them off

[stable olive]

Oh, now you give me an idea, there's some universities nearby

Or I let the universities collab on the electric Niken😅

[remote plume]

I mean... its a learning opportunity and they probably know better how to do it

Just know, funding it is probably unachievable.
You won't have to pay them wages or anything but you need to pay for the time in their workshop and for the components (including failed, broken attempts)

[stable olive]

I know, but I mean a collab, there's probably people with brighter minds on EVs than me

[remote plume]

Collab sounds good.
But really - asking for a motor from one of their old cars seems the best bet

[stable olive]

Especially because I don't really need that much😅
I was also thinking on getting the Verge motorcycle for the motor and batteries, but damn that thing's expensive

[remote plume]

You might also look for replacement parts for already existing electric motocycles

[stable olive]

You mean just call an Italian dealer that may not speak English?

Not to mention, speaking is very hard for me

[remote plume]

Nahh was more thinkin of the open market not directly at some out-of-country dealership
like search for electric bikes and then search that model number with "replacement motor"

[stable olive]

That's actually not that bad of an idea

[hollow knoll]

or salvage from a wrecked bike?

[stable olive]

Try to find a wrecked electric bike😅

[hollow knoll]

No idea, honestly

"wrecked" can be generalized to "insurance write off"

Yeah, so those are definitely a thing

"salvage electric motorcycle" gives results at least

[stable olive]

Netherlands is pretty small, so I doubt I find many "wrecked" electric bikes.

[vagrant knot]

Stolen perhaps lol

Or steal one yurself wreck it bad then buy at auction

[stable olive]

I am not gonna do that, police here are very thorough

[vagrant knot]

Ik

Yet theyre also not

[stable olive]

I have an ex family member who's criminal so the police is always thorough because of it.

[vagrant knot]

Dont get caught lol

[stable olive]

Hard to get away😅

[vagrant knot]

All it has to do i be crashed so it be writtrn off so it goes to auction

Anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk of unconventional ways to get crap done

[stable olive]

Maybe easier in your area, not so easy here🤣

[vagrant knot]

Well if you steal arond where ya live thats dumb

[stable olive]

Netherlands is barely 300KM long

And Netherlands works way too well with the Germans and Belgians

[vagrant knot]

Yes if u run and go over the border

But if u steal a motorcyckle thats electric 1 its silent

2its agile

So if u dont get caught at stealing you can get it hidden pretty fast if u do and run at night unless summer there arent many cops on motorcycle, dpeending where and u can track the police helicopters if aint in the air thats atleast 10mins and the cars and such can be countered with bicycle paths lol

[hollow knoll]

Don't necessarily need to find it in your country. Could arrange with someone local to an auction to grab it, strip the motor, send motor to you.
It's an option if you don't succeed elsewhere.

[vagrant knot]

Prozn be able to order that crap from us ebay just shipping be a thing

[stable olive]

I can't find shit on Ebay sadly enough, or well not ones that are willing to send to the Netherlands

[vagrant knot]

Ah

Might be off looking for someone in the us whos willing to ship it to their place and then send to you but i can tell ya it be pricey just shipping

[stable olive]

Once or twice is okay, i can simply buy a new control unit

[vagrant knot]

Welp asking quotes form shops to get the ape souped up some more

Ones like we only do up to 100cc

Others like nah that would make it unreliable but was like we can tune it better, but i just wanna go 100cc then and have it proprely tuned

[stable olive]

I mean, all I can say is I want at least 100KW 144v or 72v motor

Or I could get the Niken GT without motor, and get motor parts of the Verge TS.
Then Frankenstein it and make the Verge Niken TS😃

Then I have a 3 wheeled motorcycle with a hubless rear tire

[vagrant knot]

Hehe get a piaggio ape like me thats non runner and build ya own engine

Ya be dry

And theyre fun

If u want 3wheeled

Lol

[stable olive]

I need be able to go 160KMh.

And I prefer a motorcycle over something Europeans call a scooter

I also need something electric, not petrol

[vagrant knot]

Yes but i meant for the bodyt

Rear drive and i mean uve seen the vid of a hyabusa bein put in one

It also probz has more weight capacity than a motorrcycle

[stable olive]

I prefer the Niken over a scooter body

[vagrant knot]

It isnt a scooter

Tuk tuk

[stable olive]

I don't want that, it needs to be legal on the highway

And the Yamaha Niken isn't classed as a trike, but as a motorcycle

[vagrant knot]

Your gonna selfbuild a vehicle

Nothing bout that is legal till u go to rdw

Said body can be transferred to motorcycle license or even better car license

[stable olive]

In the Netherlands, a trike is a sub category of a car, therefore you need acar driving licence.
The Niken is a motorbike and doesn't self balance.
And electric conversions are allowed here as long it's registered and retested.
A tuktuk is classed as a 45KMh light quadra-cycle, going faster means it goes past 45KMh up to 90KMh means it should be heavier and then it's classed as a heavy quadra-cycle, going past 90KMh is basically illegal, and I need to drive 200KM distances, I am not gonna do that over the course of 4 hours.

Converting the Niken GT to electric keeps it in the same motorcycle class, making things a lot easier.

Keep in mind, the Yamaha Niken, unlike the Piaggio MP3, doesn't self balance and falls if you don't balance on it

[vagrant knot]

You can get them registered as a car? As the ehavier versions the ape tm for instance are all classed either farm registration or as a car

[stable olive]

Nope, I cannot register a quadracycle as a car, it doesn't have enough protection to be a car, not even enough as a heavy quadracycle

For example a heavy quadracycle is something in the same class and sturdiness as a Microlino

[stable olive]

🤨

[potent flicker]

The French just have to be special

[stable olive]

I would love some essence in my car, it runs on spirit energy

[potent flicker]

Only if ||redacted to avoid international incident||

[vagrant knot]

Hmm one shop i so far always had work done is like nah 70cc what i got now is most reliably and yada yada 100 isnt but i never heard of it being unreliable except from said shop, mean if it tuned right and all

[vagrant knot]

Fucking clutch froze lol

[fierce heart]

On what?

[vagrant knot]

Tuk tuk

Think the lever on gearbox

Not the cable but that shit wasn’t moving at all

[remote plume]

damnit haha

[vagrant knot]

It was when I got home

Hope tomorrow morning it does to as I’ll needda take it to work so I can take it to site to then go to my grandma lol

[fierce heart]

Hehe this is why I like internal hydraulic clutch mechanisms

[vagrant knot]

Well it’s all open under the bed so

[fierce heart]

Yeah…

[nova finch]

It looks phenomenal

[vagrant knot]

yea and im hoping to find space for trailer thats near

and if such ill bring it to the shop to get a cc swap done again

[nova finch]

Those seats look absolutely pimpin’

[lost nest]

Yeah. Ended up just cutting out foam though and it did the trick

[vagrant knot]

hows it looking now

havent seen it in a while nerd

[lost nest]

The same as it was the last time

But now with snow on top

[vagrant knot]

Well i dont remember that

Do u have sleepy eyes or winky eyes yet?

Also i gotta replace roof light bar, seems moisture was in controller earleir this week and wanted to use yesterday it didnt work

So gotta get new and then waterproof, fun part is the led bar thats also not waterproof has 0issues

Plus closer to the road by a meter and thus getting hit by way more

[vagrant knot]

@fierce heart

@nova finch

[fierce heart]

but it doesn’t fold up!

[nova finch]

Hey you got the trailer!

Nice

[vagrant knot]

No ik tech but i got a space i can get for 45bucks

But i contacted for a garage near me thats 100 a month but might split with coworker

Or ask another who i know also kidna wanted see how or what

As we can always build shelves that go over the trailer so to not waste space

Or just rent it for my own fully as its close

[vagrant knot]

Soon pic of the ape on it

[nova finch]

nice

what car is hauling the trailer?

[vagrant knot]

My peugeot

Wil see how it does with load as I mean the ramps ain’t light

Also I’m probz gonna pay to have the trailer converted to braked as now it isn’t and relys on the car

Also cuz idk the weight of trailer but I’m guessing the ramps are like 40kg combined at minimum

Trailer probz be 200atleast so it’s like with the ape I think just over what it’s allwoed to pull without brakes on trailer but will see how it drives with it on and with how much it’s cost

@nova finch van

[nova finch]

Looks like a CCTV camera took that shot

[vagrant knot]

Nope my phone trough the window from 5 story’s high

Without zooming in

Welp trailer lock has been returned that I bought within 20mins as it don’t fit

[vagrant knot]

Buying a chain cut to size and a lock:❌
Buy a bike lock for the same length with lock and cheaper✅

I think it’s also long enough I can actually chain it to my car

Wich is nice so if I wanted then I wouldn’t necessarily need to lock it with the hitch lock

[remote plume]

Wait so for locking the trailer to the car?

[vagrant knot]

Ye

[vagrant knot]

Welp trynna find tire straps for the ape for the trailer but im afraid the car ones are gonna be way to big as the tire is like 1/4th the size almost

[nova finch]

couldn't you just wrap straps around the ape itself

[remote plume]

Probably yes but better secure the frame than the shell

What about regular ratched straps around the outer diameter of the tire along with wheel blocks?

[vagrant knot]

Either tires ir nothing as it can dent the frame if I strap it down as gotta remember suspension so must be the tires or frame rail wich has wires and all running along it

[vagrant knot]

Aight @fierce heart @lost nest what would cause my ape to just from 3rd when it’s limiting out I switch to 4th and the first 7km more on speedometer it’s struggling and cutting out it seems and after it goes past 44km it drives mostly normal without that

[fierce heart]

That sounds like a misfire issue

So I would ask what rpm is it operating at and do you get similar loading issues at the same RPM in different gears

[vagrant knot]

No that’s the thing really only in 4 th

And after it goes above 45 it stops really having its like between 38/45km/h all other gears no issues and run normal

[fierce heart]

What’s the maximum legal speed?

[vagrant knot]

50 and 80 where I drive but I don’t take the 80 bit in the afternoon why?

Anyways injection would be the carb and spark plugs I assume?

I just find it weird it doesn’t do it after when it goes even faster ya know

If u go down a hill it don’t have that issue at all

[fierce heart]

I thought there was a maximum speed for the tuktuk

[vagrant knot]

Yes and

?

Soon with 100cc its going to get like 35ish more than it has now

And just 20cc gave me like 15km/h more on orignal

[flint tangle]

When u sneaky sneaky park with the s2ks

[vagrant knot]

Mhm?

[stable olive]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RY_w54Q_YdY

[vagrant knot]

It has been loaded

Also forgot to turn lights of after testing it

So had to get jumped instantly as battery sorta gotta be replaced but I just disconnect it

[nova finch]

Looks good

You even took my idea of wrapping the straps around the ape, I see those door straps!

What does this mean?

[vagrant knot]

The triangle or?

[vagrant knot]

That’s not for the door

That’s the: don’t forget to remove the strap around the ape frame tied to the trailer frame as we wanted some down force straps too

Lmao

@nova finch ?

[potent flicker]

I’m curious about the words

[nova finch]

Jack Oosterwijk Sleeuwijk

What does that mean

[vagrant knot]

Owh company probz that sells those mudflaps

Companys like you to buy stuff that u need with their name on for free advertising

Guy i bought it from put them on

[vagrant knot]

Also i mean, i just locked the doors so they cant just open lol

[remote plume]

Hey, any idea where I could find the dimensions of this tool?
Only place I can find this tool is US shops but shipping would be quite expensive and I heard you get the same results with 3D printed replacements

*Hyundai Tiburon coupe 2.0 GLS

[vagrant knot]

https://www.fruugo.nl/universele-auto-koppeling-uitlijning-tool-koppeling-uitlijning-demontage-tool-kunststof-sfygv/p-250179855-541000832?language=nl&ac=ProductCasterAPI&asc=pmax&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5fetBhC9ARIsAP1UMgGlCWLdWirayKLEwlIxllDZ88k-OY4hfAg0F2h0pLTJ9FNkc-7dli8aAkzCEALw_wcB this might work?

[remote plume]

thanks for the link, I found it on amazon aswell (cheaper)
In the meantime I've also found this I think I could pretty much replace the official tool with it

[remote plume]

Yup, chose that one... If it aint workin I'm gonna look dumb but I'm sure it will

[vagrant knot]

Your welcome

2secs of googling lol

[vagrant knot]

Kind of tempting to when the shop calls on monday to ask how much it'd be to get a hitch installed

[vagrant knot]

Ffs and looking online theres literally a non runner ape being given away for free, am so tempted to pick that up too lol

[remote plume]

DO IT

[vagrant knot]

Yeah i kinda wanna abut atm no funds really

Might just go pick a free one up as i got a rental spot figured out just gotta call confirm but can basically leave it on said trailer there then ya know

[remote plume]

Yeah absolutely, its free after all :P

You need another project

[vagrant knot]

Yeah true that would be a product id try to mostly do myself

But currently its in the shop for engine works and all as i dont wanna mess with that as im not that mecahnicly inclined

But theres a kit for the hitch but thats without install already 550bucks and a shop quoted me like 600 so yeah

Gotta check ya know, trailer build should be decently easy ish as it involves removing engine cutting of the front and just putting a hitch on it and then just paint it

[stable olive]

https://youtube.com/shorts/dMObcjEI50w

[bronze gulch]

off road super car why does this exist

[stable olive]

Yes

[vagrant knot]

@nova finch

[nova finch]

Nice

The beast lives on

[vagrant knot]

Sounds mean in good way the engine so

[remote plume]

dang it LOUD

[vagrant knot]

Hehe

Some lady in tunnel covered her ear

I was driving 40in speedometer

So like slow speed as I can’t go full yet as running it in

Only 30kms driven today, I needda do that average a day to get that shit done in a two week vs just to work

But yeah no muffler lol I think

[vagrant knot]

If y’all wonder how my time was spend from 13.45 till 18.15

@nova finch

[remote plume]

Geez you spend 5 days in traffic with an emergency operator? :D

[nova finch]

Damn that doesn’t sound like fun, on the road for 5 hours

[vagrant knot]

Learn normal times

Well no

I was driving and broke down

Hour n half for triple a, then 15mins of checking then waiting 20mins for tow truck and bout hour n half to get home

Glad I chose tow as I no way would of been able to drag that onto the trailer

On my own

Tow truck just dropped it on there with ease

[remote plume]

Crap I absolutely thought that was a date even though neither of the times listed could be a month 😂

[remote plume]

Rip

[remote plume]

You should have a little winch on it :P in dire cases a ratched strap also should work for pulling such light vehicles on haha

[remote plume]

You know what happened yet?
Last I know you were driving the new engine in, right?

[vagrant knot]

Yeah ik, future upgrade although I don’t plan on breaking down, also roadside service I pay comes with towing free soo

Just gotta make sure it isn’t in another country I break down

I hope easy fix and have it back soon, kinda wanna make a weekend trip to really run in the cylinder ya know

[remote plume]

Just an inconvenience then heh

[vagrant knot]

Yeah but I did have plans for it tough do

[remote plume]

What happened tho? Just stopped firing or something major?

[vagrant knot]

But you’d still need two people

No compression

Cylinder probz be fucked

[remote plume]

Ughh rip

[vagrant knot]

Didn’t even flooor it was doing 40 on odometer and gave a bit of gas

It can do probz 70 or more but as it’s brand new cylinder and all I can’t go full yet

I hope warranty covers it

[remote plume]

Those things don't have a decompression valve, right?

[vagrant knot]

Don’t think so

It’s basically a 2 stroke moped engine ish

Now more like a dirt Ike cuz cc but ye

[remote plume]

Cuz my mofa had a bad (still has it but kinda™️ fixed bowden cable for the valve) and I had no plan how any of it worked until the cable gave out and basically dropped the valve into the cylinder

[vagrant knot]

Ah well it might have but I don’t think so as on top of cylinder is just spark plug

[remote plume]

Yeah then not, they are right next to it

[vagrant knot]

@nova finch

[nova finch]

Cool vids

Who filmed it, was it that annoying coworker

[vagrant knot]

No

Some rando

[fierce heart]

@vagrant knot

[stable olive]

Microlino 2.
Car doesn't even weight 600KG and has a max speed of 90 KM/h

[fierce heart]

yes, hence why I think DC might like it…

[vagrant knot]

Nah

They got those electric shit ugly as fuck

[remote plume]

...why do brands not remake old loved models I don't understand it...

Like - develop a new car and make the outer shell the form of the old one while keeping everything kind of in the spirit of the old one

[vagrant knot]

They kinda did with them but shit its electric and i dnt like that

[stable olive]

The problem with very old models is they don't support the weight of the batteries, are too dangerous for this society and keep in mind, people primarily in Europe have gotten taller.
For example I don't fit in the Isetta, but I do in the Microlino, which is based of the Isetta.

Microlino however is almost as tough as a regular car, while still being as light as a heavy quadra-cycle.

Keep in mind, a heavy quadra-cycle is allowed on the highway, most light quadra-cycle, the older micro cars fall under aren't allowed on the highway.

[vagrant knot]

Why tf it gotta be electric tough

Plenty of gas efficient engines and shit for usch tiny vehicles

[potent flicker]

Like the Hummer EV?

[remote plume]

Well I meant the ICE models bc no electric driver cares about old cars

[potent flicker]

Woah woah woah I’ve toyed with the idea of an electric refit of my old truck

The range just isn’t there

And there are other electric crate motors for older trucks out there

[remote plume]

I just want a safe (efficient) ICE car with an old chassis like an Opel Manta or A DAtsun Z or whatever the car community desires

[potent flicker]

Ah, yeah. That is unfortunately a casualty of the new emissions regulations everywhere

[remote plume]

Or like an Audi Quattro because lets face it that was peak design

[vagrant knot]

What truck

[vagrant knot]

LS SWAP IT

Idgaf thats a clean truck

Dont ev swap it

[potent flicker]

Naw, I’ll either keep the AMC in it or do one of the Edison kits if they’re decent enough.

[vagrant knot]

Id say full reestoration man that paint looks mint tough

[stable olive]

More efficient that way and more stable

[vagrant knot]

Nah woulda been fine with a fuel engine too

[stable olive]

With the weight at the bottom it's more stable.

[vagrant knot]

Yetthere plenty of clips of them flipping and being jsut not that

[stable olive]

Electric cars are simply more efficient, especially at that size and you don't need a massive space for an engine just to go 90KM/h.
Keep in mind the battery fills the bottom of the floor and the motor isn't bigger than your head.
If it comes down to safety, especially a very small car, a combustion engine is just a massive risk, and we seen it time and time again with smart cars that got into an accident.

[potent flicker]

Uh… Smart Cars are rated as very safe

[vagrant knot]

Yes until u crash

[stable olive]

Except I believe they were also known for bursting into flames during driving.

It's like saying the Ford Ka 1st gen is a safe car.

[deft musk]

Safety standards improve over time, and what might have rated well in safety trials when it was new may do a lot worse if tested to modern standards

Testing can also only find certain kinds of issues, you tend to learn more about the safety of a vehicle over time as it gets used

[bronze gulch]

that is just a BMW isseta

[remote plume]

Hey, hey maybe you guys can help me fix my problem:
The remote key fob of my car keeps stopping to work.
At first I let a shop relearn the key to the car, a couple days later it stopped working again and the activity LED on the key was also not working. I had a look inside and found that there was a loose connection between the battery socket and PCB, which I fixed by resoldering the contacts. I gave them the fob again (it had forgotten it's ID without power) and it worked for like 3 months. Now it's not working again but the light is bright and the connection strong.

The car didn't loose power during that time (except once where another shop left the radio on over night, but it had still worked after jumpstarting for like another two weeks).
When the car wouldn't open by remote I used the key which promptly triggered the alarm and immobilizer but after like 20 minutes of turning the key and pressing different combinations on the remote it accepted to start again and after that it didn't make a fuss when using just the key.

I already have Owners + Workshop Manual for my car here:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AidcC4FAYZiXgYX2RFfzIZoJk0YHDro
I believe the relevant information might be in Electrical\Body (Electrical System) at B E-41 (p42) or BE -119 (p120)
but I'm a novice when it comes to cars (and especially their security systems) and couldn't figure it out by myself.

[vagrant knot]

If it has keyfob can’t u like put those in ignition and have the car learn it too perhaps somehow smths wrong checked the remote battery?

[remote plume]

Yes the battery is good (as the button LED blinks bright when pressed)
I found online something about holding both buttons for 3sec while ignition is on and the hazards should blink once to I dictate a learned key but it didn't work.

The dark spots are residue of solder flux but it shouldn't affect anything afaik

[vagrant knot]

Tried getting new key instead of relearning this one

[remote plume]

No idea where tbh and I kinda like that key haha

[vagrant knot]

Well then if they get it working u transfer the shit into the old one

[remote plume]

Hmm true but as I said no idea what devices I'd need and how it works even tho I'm a hardware-level programmer

[vagrant knot]

Just buy a programmable key

And program it

[remote plume]

Hmm I just found out we have an automotive key expert in our vicinity, I messaged them about it as well, I'd guess they'd have a solution

And a programmable key :p

[vagrant knot]

See told ya just get new key

[vagrant knot]

She runs again

[remote plume]

^^ yippiee

[vagrant knot]

?

[remote plume]

What was the problem now?

[vagrant knot]

Cylinder got bit the vakve springs claps melted and too much oil

Combo of timing being wrong and the oil it got too hot

Did ride nice but I feel smths diff with when got it back so that probz has to do with said timing

[fierce heart]

For me, the three key things:

1. it can do lorry limiter speed that means it is acceptable on every single road out there.
2. it has a a genuine 100 mile range. Sure that isn’t good for long distance but realistically you’d not want to use it for a long trip
3. it costs as much as a new fully enclosed e-assisted velomobile.
   Thus it makes a great compromise between a e-bike (velo) and car.

[stable olive]

I yesterday saw a BYD truck, a small 1, but it was a truck, I asked the driver and it has a 250KW battery pack and drivers like 600KM, which is way more than he does in half a week.

[river relic]

The weather is swinging between mid 30sf to 60f and the warm weather driving me nuts cause it makes me want to pull the Camaro out of storage.

[vagrant knot]

But cold means snow means donuts?

[river relic]

Absolutely not. That car does not see snow. Has not seen snow in the 17 years I have oened it.

[potent flicker]

It needs to see snow

[vagrant knot]

Undderstand but find a nice parking lot

Barely salting there depending on lol

Heck tow it and then donut it

[river relic]

This does not see snow.

[potent flicker]

It could have fun in snow

[vagrant knot]

Exactly

It can have fun in snow

Heck its a camaro

That shit has fun without snow

But with snow less chance of damage

[river relic]

No snow, no salt. Also has dedicated summer tires, so no frozen roads.

[vagrant knot]

Come to europe

[river relic]

I live in whats called the "rust belt" of the U.S. The Camaro sists October-March.

[vagrant knot]

We drive on summer tires in snow and are fine

I mean tow it somewhere have fun, tow it to a car wash thats heated wash it and tow it home

Or or

Take ur winter beater and have fn with that

[river relic]

Not fine, dangerous. My tires cannot operate below 45f.

[vagrant knot]

Safewty restrictions are recomendations

[river relic]

And a hell no to a car wash, are you insane? In Winter? Thats just asking for paint and clear coat damage. That car is hand washed only.

[vagrant knot]

As said heated ones

Also ud only need it for the undercarriage /wheelwells

[river relic]

Those auto car washes only get cleaned maybe once a day.

[vagrant knot]

Woich i bet u dont hand wash\

Also i never said auto wash, theres plenty of heated pressure wash ones

[river relic]

Just no.... High pressure water underneath the car... On 1980s wiring.
Hand wash and clay bar. then wax. All by hand, twice a year.

Hell I can count how many times on one hand that car has seen heavy rain.

Ah, forgot about this photo. Just as the sun was coming up at a car show last June.

[nova finch]

Gorgeous

I think it’s an Aventador but my friend thinks it’s a hurracan

Who’s right?

[deft musk]

So small the BMW behind it has basically the same visibility

[stable olive]

Aventador is longer, that's a Huracán Spyder

Aventador also has big air scoops ln the sides, that the Huracán doesn't have.

[flint tangle]

No snow for nice cars u monsters

[stable olive]

I would love to rebuild cars to be capable of driving on snow or dirt with ease.

Including these exotics

[vagrant knot]

They dont needda be rebuild

Just the salt sucks

and people dont know how to drive

[potent flicker]

I live by the philosophy that cars are meant to be driven! but also if I only drove it in nice weather I would only be able to have it out for 1 or 2 months out of the year here

[river relic]

My philosophy is that I am driving a classic car, of which cannot easily be replaced, is easily totaled with today's bricks on the road, is rwd, has zero snow tire options, and that I do not want it to rust out.

Hence no winter driving.

Not to mention its under classic car insurance.

[stable olive]

I mean a full rebuild, like a lift kit and wide body.
Like a proper off-road vehicle

[nova finch]

@vagrant knot this is what my car looks like, except mine is in battleship gray

[vagrant knot]

Boo boring civic

[vagrant knot]

Get that one suv porsche dunno name atm but those are somhow really good and all u really needda change is the tires lol

[flint tangle]

If it's a modern car that isnt multi million dollar 1 of 200 or something of insane rarity like that yea i get it, but a 40+ year old car that is difficult to find parts for and is extremely well taken care of yea no snow driving

[nova finch]

Hey the civic looks cool

[vagrant knot]

Is it atleast tuned or smth or done a donut or smth

[stable olive]

I mean, I would like to do it for other people on their car

[remote plume]

The 09 Cayenne is insanely cheap for a Porsche and is basically a VW Tiguan. It also comes with that famous W12 afaik :P

[river relic]

And weren't the transmission in those crap? I don't think they fixed those until the 2nd or 3rd gen version.

[remote plume]

Idk but nobody who wanted to drive a Porsche really likes them because they basically aren't

[stable olive]

You know what's my irritation number 1, when you see a tiny car park on 2 parking spots that's big enough for 2 large MPVs, and then you have cyclists that park their bicycle on 3 spots.

[vagrant knot]

Xd

[bronze gulch]

How do they manage that

[vagrant knot]

Park the opposite direction as u need?

[stable olive]

The cars or the bicycles?

We have these bicycle bars/fences which can have 2 bicycles each, then there's people who park their bicycle against 2 of them, literally taking 4 spots at the same time.

Our parking spots for cars aren't that wide, but some people park diagonally on the parking spots line, literally taking 2 parking spots.

[bronze gulch]

I thought it was a bike taking 3 car spots yah those guys grind my gears

[vagrant knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308225872610197505/1211940566926098472/RPReplay_Final1709019457.mov?ex=65f0069b&is=65dd919b&hm=ebdc360e0a7800dce8a91310f5f5d4be8f065605c72ec1618924e4fa7073bb70&

[remote plume]

Ohh he got places to be 💨

[vagrant knot]

Ye

It is that mine stands more out

Am debating getting the wrap but removed

Take off the roof bar and plate and I’m unrecognizable

[nova finch]

Went for a walk in the shopping district and Spotted an aventador and an r35

[vagrant knot]

Coulda left in media lol @nova finch

[nova finch]

Yeah I guess

[vagrant knot]

Mhm driving a longer distance ish now feel like it’s getting bit hot or smth

[vagrant knot]

Darkness

[vagrant knot]

Moved the led bar

Wat better position

[vagrant knot]

Mhm did some trynna push the ape i think its top speed is now a bit slower than before D:

Wcih shouldnty be the case

[stable olive]

Lol, the beginning of this video
https://youtu.be/prNvog3HFBo

[bronze gulch]

the 94 Mx5 next door is for sale

@lost nest how hard is it to get NA Miata interior parts

the roof on said for sale mazda is ruined but the car is supper cheap

IDK if it runs yet I doubt it though

[lost nest]

Easy enough. Depending what it is. Got photos or any idea what needs to be replaced so I can advise specifically?

Soft tops cost between like $100 and $2000 depending on what top you buy and if a shop does the work. I spent big bucks on a canvas top from the original manufacturer of them for the production car, then installed it myself. Which took me like 3 days of swearing at it.

Seat skins are easy enough to do with hog ring pliers and some patience

Steering wheels, center consoles, shifter parts are all available aftermarket but some original stuff can be found online. Especially from guys who race them.

The whole dash bezel can be bought as a stereo install kit that will actually convert it to a double din, if that's smashed up.

Carpet sets are available but the whole dash needs to be removed for that installation.

Door panels are available aftermarket. The armrests and stuff can still be found new OEM

The drop in round led projector headlight "bulbs" are amazing and cheap. Normally they're advertised for jeeps.

Whole trunk carpet set is available.

Pretty much everything shouldn't be an issue with a little bit of effort looking for it.

There's a couple really hard to find clips in the soft top that aren't available now, and some bolt covers for the seats I'm really trying to find new.

[bronze gulch]

thanks ill DM you if I look at it closer

[remote plume]

Hmm it's probably not good that I hear 800rpm squeaking when I let go of the clutch in idle...
That gearbox gotta be EMPTY😐

[vagrant knot]

Floor it

[potent flicker]

That’s not uncommon in certain situations

Typically in cold weather

[remote plume]

Ohh really? So nothing to worry about?
Whats it caused by tho cuz it sounds bad and the idle sound of this shitbox is actually pretty nice :P

[potent flicker]

It depends on the car. Could be the throw out bearing slightly changing shape due to the cold. Could be ice on something that moves. If it wasn’t there before and goes away when the temp isn’t freezing I wouldn’t worry too much

I’ve had it happen with my ‘08 Mazda as well as my ‘73 International

That doesn’t mean I’m not assessing it each year

[remote plume]

Well it's not freezing, just a lil cold.

So I should be inspecting the gearbox bearings?
The axle sealings have been leaking for a while now but I'll be replacing them in a couple weeks

[potent flicker]

If you’re getting into it in a couple weeks I think you would be fine to spot check it then. By assessing I meant I would notice it and then pay attention to see if it was louder or happening when it was in gear

I didn’t mean a full teardown

[remote plume]

Aight - I need to take it out at least for clutch replacement and I suspect its empty because it's been leaking for so long

[hollow knoll]

If you think it's empty, top it off

...

[remote plume]

That is true - given I don't drive much anyways right now (maybe once a week, some 10-20km) It could wait until seal replacement I think 🤔

[vagrant knot]

If it’s leaking it got oil in it

[vagrant knot]

Different kinda car

One with 460 hp

[vagrant knot]

Vroom

The audio literally does not get justice from my phone

[remote plume]

0-60: eventually :D

[vagrant knot]

it dont do 60

51km top speed bit more downhill

deafening to other rtunnel users: 0 to instant

sounded somewhat like a dirtbike haha

phone dont do it justice when its inside the cab

[potent flicker]

You need to find a bigger hill

[vagrant knot]

Haha we dont got that this was tunnel under the river

[vagrant knot]

Gotta fix the rear light with some brackets those that fit in front not in rear as I didn’t consider the bumper being thicker so it’s ziptied unplaced

[vagrant knot]

Anyways @lost nest that rear light needs a bracket :)

[vagrant knot]

Shit has been loaded

When u line it up its way easier

Last time with coworker was a lot of adjusting

Now I had free space to line it up and go on it instantly only had to push it a tiny bit as it wasn’t straight fully and one ramp thus didn’t fit

[remote plume]

Hey remember about my Headlight replacement issue up here?
I had ordered the adapter cables and they have arrived. I plugged them in. The only thing that did anything using the adapter was the high beams but they were incredibly dim.
I have multiple versions of the workshop manual by now and using a multimeter (and basically trying every combination this is what I figured out:

This is the Adapter (and what the pre-facelift workshop manual says)
So far so good, 3 pairs of two, in line above eachother. No problem.

This is what works on my bucket of screws.
I have no idea why or how this happened or why it is like that.
If all lights are on:

• 1+4 shows 12V and is controlled by the daytime lights
• 2+3 shows 12V and is controlled by the low beams
• 2+5 shows 12V and is controlled by the high beams

the other combinations don't line up with the switch positions and/or show either 0V, 2-3V(??) or about 10V.

I think the only combination I haven't tried is putting the high beams on 1+5 or 4+5 while putting the daytime lights on 1+6... gonna test that tomorrow before cutting up the cables

[remote plume]

Putting the daytime lights on 1+6 has worked with 5+2 being the high beams.
Finally some visible progress^^

[vagrant knot]

Didnt u get those lights like a year ago

[remote plume]

Kinda yeah

[stable olive]

Hyundai Coupe?
Been a while I seen 1 of those beauties

[remote plume]

Yeees🤤
Replacement parts are rare but they seem to be pretty reliable. Not a single one in a dump in a radius of 50km of me and I see plenty on the road

[stable olive]

Here they slowly faded away😅
But yeah, they're looking nice

Also just something random, I had my screen on black and white, and this logo just looks like it says PlooD if you look quickly

[vagrant knot]

Cant be good tough if it got a Tesla in it

[stable olive]

Depends what slang you go for😅

[deft musk]

Tesla drivetrains are good for EV swaps, so Tesla is good for something at least 😆

[stable olive]

Not if you need 4 motors instead of 1 or 2😅

[deft musk]

Then you use two of their dual motor units :p

[bronze gulch]

they did the battery and the motors right the rest of the car need a lot of help

[vagrant knot]

Fixed properly

[remote plume]

You think a total of 3 left-over bolts is acceptable for a clutch change? :D

[deft musk]

yes

[vagrant knot]

Yes, you made it better than it came from factory

[remote plume]

Very good

[fierce heart]

Depends if they are ones that are supposed to be replaced…

[remote plume]

I have two I'm sure where they go but I couldn't reach there properly (they aren't really important) and one I don't know where it's coming from but I got everything important covered lol

[fierce heart]

🧐

you hope!

[remote plume]

XD

[vagrant knot]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/355673126459?itmmeta=01HWNKMDGY4SQ36GYM7GN2HNR0&hash=item52cfc5363b:g:8BkAAOSwIp1mLU7H&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4KNvDyFnf098pM3CG9R3rs5vXgZlIqOgiWWn5mJKcBVQLhHnAnwjDSmjzYO70UpQeBOfRZ6J6NesLycRoyO8V15kjlAT6pd63hrOID3D6JWsEvbKuB30ej0A4Ptt6N3nZkEEbCACjLKO%2FjhLIW8PDcc03SPjJrT6hxcEO3gQk8AH1Y2hme4IGqhJMCFTWi7xu0D4%2BPOGQf%2BSJQxvs0SlagIv6p%2F022iEJIdw4kpp3cF%2Bf08W4JWvUX8Zo9iTrieZNxrWemleFShH1tGsKY742m0WF%2FgUvabNfqjLeLaDMudv|tkp%3ABk9SR8bY0bPlYw

I may or may not have a good idea

[remote plume]

Good way to clean dust from inside the head lights?
I needed to make a small modification with a dremel and the dust got kinda everywhere. Compressed air cans only helped so much...
current idea is putting lightly dish-soaped water inside and splashing it on the affected areas, then using compressed air to avoid stains

[vagrant knot]

Take it off the car take bulbs out and put if y got more than one hole vacuum on one and a compressor or smth on the other if u can’t shake it out

Or get soem screwdriver cover it with a wet wipe and wipe it down use screwdriver to move it around or smth else

[remote plume]

Yea its already off - vacuum didn't do too much, compressed air helped most of the way but now the really fine dust is left on the matte black fascia piece and lense
this is the head light btw

I might try the vacuu-compressor method and wet wool wipes before filling them with liquid :/

[vagrant knot]

Id say do wet wipes first

Probz can just swipe it off easily

[remote plume]

Its just difficult to access, reaching around the bulb cover etc

Or bulb "cap"

[vagrant knot]

Ah

U got one of those swiffer things

Something with flexibility and dust catcher

[remote plume]

Update: I've rinsed them thru with about a handful of soapy water each.
The dust is gone. What isn't gone is the shmoo, the compressed air cans left on the lense cover when I accidentally used them while not level.
I've managed to remove most of it with a bendy "stick" and soft paper towel but its still present around the fascia.
It will get thru inspection but its wayy too ugly for the 400€ I payed for both of them...
will need to open them up to properly clean tbh...

Thx for the tips tho

[vagrant knot]

Welp the ape broke down

I tought it was the clutch wires

Cuz I couldn’t shift down but road service checked those and those worked fine still so it’s either the mechanism or smth as when driving it didn’t make weird noises or such

[remote plume]

Ahh rip

Sounds expensive

[vagrant knot]

I hope not

I didn’t hear any weird sounds really when driving so

Could be the lever inside just needda be cleaned or smth idk

Rebuild would be pricey

If such I’ll probz rip everything off sell it and buy a driving one lmao

[remote plume]

Is it easily accessible?

[vagrant knot]

Eh two bolts and u can drop the motor to the floor to work on it

But imma take it to shop as I got no clue with gearbox n all

Or see if one of the fb groups can help

As in someone near that knows what they doing and wanna do it lol

[remote plume]

I come from a place where I disassemble everything thats broken and see if I can fix it - almost always it's really obvious what the problem is.
I would go for the fb group approach but do the diagnosis at least with them if it makes you more comfortable lol

You could also look for a workshop manual (there are many PDF sources) for the Ape and see if the symptoms are listed there and wether they already have a fix

Found this one for example, think its the right model
https://scootergrisen.org/scooterhjemmeside/download/piaggio_ape_servicemanual.pdf

[vagrant knot]

Well I’m not mechanically inclined and dunno shit to be able to pull of the gearbox open it up

And it be done outside

[vagrant knot]

Mhm one guy of the group rides just send me a number for someone a hr n half away but really good with them

So will see send him a text, also he said he’d doubt it is my gearbox so will see

[vagrant knot]

Welp took the side cover off

Seems I gotta take carb and air box off to even acces the cable properly

Does appear but not too sure that it’s a bit loose

But not broken

Still a pain to fix then as yeah no rear hatch like older models so always gotta drop engine

[remote plume]

Well fuck me. I need to disassemble all 4 head lights that I currently have.
Germany is doing an F u and wants their special treatment.
I've just learned that not only the headlights from inside germany are different to the other EU headlights in terms of pinout, NO, they also need to have a user-adjustable height from the drivers seat.
I'm gonna need to transplant the new fascia (which is currently dirty because of parking light modifications) and lense cover into the old housing which contains the linear actuators for height adjustment and its cables with pinout.
Not enough that I had cut the parking lights out of the old ones already, no, I also need to put them back in now.
On top I currently need the car as I have just started working on location again.

I've already basically ruined the 400 bucks new ones by dirtying them inside ;_;

I no no wanna ._.

[vagrant knot]

Just change it when u got the yearly inspection

Xd

Also the adjusting thing here too

[remote plume]

I'm overdue 6 months

;_;

[vagrant knot]

I still gotta plan mine for june i think it was

[flint tangle]

Big wang gang

[vagrant knot]

Wut

[remote plume]

Noice pic - looks nearly like taken out of a game, with the perfect palm reflections in the lights

[vagrant knot]

Got it back had to go coworker as they placed cables wrong I think so pulled one from the outside so it’s just floating there wich it shouldn’t so I’m thinking they didn’t cut it to length so there is way more and this banger came on

Still 4th gear feels bit but then again was the clutch cable that it was wich wasn’t even replaced so yeah

[vagrant knot]

Welp ordered a tiny fan that can be mounted on the window so more air flow hopefully as the other one only got a clamp so kinda annoying to mount it somewhere that isnt in the way, did get some good advice of a other, might see if i can convert it to magnetic, plus ordered a tiny solar panel so i can keep airflow going in the ape while not in it during work days so it wont get so hot

[remote plume]

Is it meant for that usecase?
If the fan can spin from wind, without electricity applied it will burn out soon.
In my experience the existance of a "hole" in the side window (and a hole at the rear of the cab, in the "wake") is aerodynamically speaking the best. It would pull air through the cabin so to speak.
Doesn't work while not moving tho.

[vagrant knot]

It’s electric lol

[vagrant knot]

I only have a vent in dash from front and two windows

It’s a tuk tuk remember

[remote plume]

Yes

[vagrant knot]

This works great so far but a second one don’t hurt plus if it can run on solar i can have airflow going while at work so it doesn’t get hot

[remote plume]

Duh but is it meant to be hung on a window

Ohh its one of those

[vagrant knot]

How do ya mean? It got a big clamp I can hang it wherever I want inside the cab

[remote plume]

Make sure the fans plastic can handle 80°C+ or you will have a puddle of palstic on your tuk tuk

Also I was able to spot the sticker and DO NOT LEAVE THIS UNATTENDED IN THE CAR ON A HOT DAY

LI-ION BATTERIES DON'T LIKE TEMPERATURE SWINGS AND IT IS NOT UNLIKELY TO CATCH FIRE IF IT GETS TOO HOT 🔥

[vagrant knot]

It can run without battery so I can just take that out lol

[remote plume]

That would solve the fire hazard, ok

DO look up however, if this thing is made of PLA, ABS or Nylon, the latter two should be fine, first one absolutely isn't

[vagrant knot]

Just gotta start with the battery in it then remove the battery while in charger to trick it and then it keeps running till ya turn it off

Plus it’s gonna just be to run on solar when I’m not in and it’s at work parked in the sun wich is inevitable so ye

[remote plume]

If you order a small electrical component ("Buck converter") you can just put some wires on the battery contacts and leave them in

[vagrant knot]

Super easy montage with a lot of fucking ziptied and angry that I can’t get my hands in there easily to tie them off

[river relic]

Well, thats a new one for me. Last car of the day was a 2016 Jaguar Project 7. Only 250 of them were made. Made for a great last hour mounting tires.

[vagrant knot]

Mhm they kept it running for a year to use again)

[vagrant knot]

Gnna tint my windows tomorrow if the weathers good

[remote plume]

Ooohh tinted APE would kinda look hard tbh 🔥

[vagrant knot]

Its only 70%

But i hope it helps gainst heat mostly but also as a sun block in my face as with the sunshade is being useless unless i go bend my nexk down and be like a vulchur to see where im goign]

Got the shit ready probz gonna do it tomorrow at the office lol

I kinda hope but also assume they got a ruler but also one of those cutting mats, then i can get nice straight angles xd

[vagrant knot]

Damn gone to driving school

There’s a unmarked crown Vic here

[remote plume]

You're in the netherlands, right? Rare sight in europe

[vagrant knot]

Yep

Not common

Did see a controller so I assume it got working lights n siren

As did see like 4 leds in grill

[river relic]

Camaro will be coming out of storage mode later this afternoon in time for the first weekly cruise in.

[river relic]

And here she is, year 17.

[stable olive]

Nice Firebird

[river relic]

Nope, its the sibling of the Firebird, the Camaro. An Iroc-Z28 specifically.

[stable olive]

Lets call it the Camaro Firebird 🙃

[river relic]

This is a Firebird, same year as my Camaro.

Well, Formula Firebird.

Aha, found it, the equivalent of my Iroc.
A Trans Am WS6.

[stable olive]

😐

They almost look the same

US pulled a China before China made cars😃

[river relic]

Well, the Pontiac Firebird and Chevy Camaro are sibling vehicles on the same platform. Sometimes with different engine options. You can go back to the 50s and see the same thing between all the car brands.

Notice on the Firebirds they have a rear wing instead of just a lip like the Camaro and the big one is the pop up headlights, whereas the Camaro has 4 headlights.

[hollow knoll]

This is what I had to do to get to a failed heater core.

And then when pressure testing, the silly little heater control valve APPARENTLY didn't like all the manhandling it got during the process of replacing the heater core, and is disappointing me with a bunch of soap bubbles...

The car has defeated me for the day.

[remote plume]

Was wondering why tf there's an engine in the drivers compartment - then I noticed thats a truck lol.
Never really thought about where their engines sit 🤔
is this the equivalent of a hood?

[lost nest]

some of the better photos from today's shenanigans

[remote plume]

Some really nice pics in there!

[hollow knoll]

Van. And it has a hood still, that's the washed out white bit in the picture.

[potent flicker]

This is common in American vans, RVs, and busses

[deft musk]

kinda just any cabover where the cab cant tip

[vagrant knot]

welp the ape broke down again, but it seems its likely the carburator so luckily the moped shop around the corner is like yeah we can work on it

just gotta bring it the day they work oin it and pick up as it cant stay in their shop as it will take up like half the shop

[vagrant knot]

Owh oink oink still running n surviving

[stable olive]

Damn, that Mustang even has the Tombstone, sadly not a full sized 1😅

[nova finch]

Can someone help me identify what car this is?

I know it’s a Porsche but which one?

[bronze gulch]

a sexy one

[stable olive]

A 911, to note here, just seeing the front is hard to identify, you also have to show thz back.
As with Porsche the front is always the same.

[remote plume]

Identifying features:

• the Circular Cutout in the frunk (with a gas cap??)
• the slit in front of the wind shield
• very rounded windshield, one of the earlier models I think
• unusual blinker/fog lamp setup, seems also very early. I think later models had them separate, not part of the fender

[vagrant knot]

Think my tire n brakes got bit of sitting too long just now

[river relic]

Went to a Corvette and Camaro car show today with the Camaro.

I was selected to be a drivers choice judge for the Corvettes, and there were a lot of them. My pick wasn't the nicest or prettiest or cleanest. But it was very rare.
A 1961 all original, fuel injected, powered soft top Vette.

[vagrant knot]

there was a aparant car meet or such here too when driving home saw quite some classic americans driving home

[stable olive]

I once saw a car meet for VW T1 and T2

[vagrant knot]

still better than tesla car meets

[stable olive]

I also seen a BYD car meet, and let me tell you, 90% of the cars were the same.

I also been to a motorbike meet, and why the fuck does almost everyone have the CB1000😐

[vagrant knot]

byd?

cb1000 cheap

[river relic]

Car show was at a car museum, the largest private collection in the midwest U.S. Will be back there in 2 weeks for another show. Always love going there.

[stable olive]

Build Your Dream, Chinese car manufacturer, and currently the biggest EV manufacturer.

[vagrant knot]

a gay meet up i see

[stable olive]

I mean, they're cheaper than Tesla and quality wise better, plus everything's already standard, which on Tesla will cost you almost 15K more

But to be honest, I prefer Nio and Xpeng over BYD😅

[vagrant knot]

tbf that aint hard as its tesla

[stable olive]

Especially not hard because Elon thought the Chinese would never be able to make an EV better than the West, and here we are, the copycats improved on our failures 🤣

[river relic]

Can we not use language like that? Its 2024 not 1994.

[vagrant knot]

i find the cars gay, never said anything bout the people

stop being soft

[river relic]

Okay nope. I am queer, and your language is against the tos of the discord group.

[stable olive]

I am lesbian and I don't mind it🙃

[vagrant knot]

sorry you feel offended but as said it was towards the car not drivers or anything

[river relic]

No, the whole "stop being soft" comment is way off and you know it. Instead of apologizing you go and do that crap.

[vagrant knot]

cause its just a word and wasnt aimed at you

u hear a word and get offended , thats being soft

[stable olive]

Okay, can we both stop, it's already hot enough in the Netherlands 😅

[vagrant knot]

if i where directly attacking u with words or smth youd be right, but in this scenario its soft if u get offended by one word not directed at you or anyone

[vagrant knot]

not really, we had rain

is perfect

[stable olive]

I mean, taken before the rain, but it still was pretty warm here on this stupid island.

[vagrant knot]

island, u in texel

or zeeland?

[stable olive]

Nope, Dordrecht, but this island loves local weather.
Like you can go to Papendrecht and suddenly have completely different weather.

[vagrant knot]

i was there today lol

[stable olive]

I hope it wasn't too weird🤣

[vagrant knot]

why would it

was there around 3 cleaned my moms windows some neighbors made money and had dinner

next two tuesdays too for truck license exams n shit

[stable olive]

Because it's Dordrecht, an island almost the size of Paris and barely anyone cares about it

[vagrant knot]

well true why would we/

[stable olive]

Exactly 🤣

And every project takes at least 10 years, we're good at that

On the other hand, we will have a part of Tour de France Femme here, but they were smart enough to lock us island people in our homes 😅

[vagrant knot]

whut locked in home'?

btw saw ur dm

?

[stable olive]

Not really, but the track is literally around town center😅

[vagrant knot]

lol

wich area of dord u live near the tunnel or?

[stable olive]

Nah, close to "Kyck over den Dyck"

[vagrant knot]

idfk where tf that is

i come past the tunnel to my mom and sometime further for work but idk the rest really

[stable olive]

It's a 400+ year old windmill that's still in working order😅

[vagrant knot]

eh

[stable olive]

Nevermind 😅

[deft musk]

My towbar isn't hanging on so well anymore...

[vagrant knot]

Is fine

Also it saying that’s going nowhere and your good

[deft musk]

It's not supposed to be held on with red croissant

[bronze gulch]

Get some rust eater and underbody paint

[deft musk]

It's not trailer rated¹, it's not worth keeping. So it's getting lopped off
¹ no trailer electrical plug, no hole for the safety chain, not very robust in general

[vagrant knot]

It’s back and meaner than before probably faster too and shouldn’t run into heat issues hopefully

now to baby her for the next 500km

[stable olive]

Now it needs a knalpijp😅🤣

[vagrant knot]

no

it got a big bore

gotta run it in for 500 but yeah its louder

i dnt think they drove it so idk if its adjusted properly fuel wise he did say it was so iwll see

i mean it stalled when i gave it a bit of throttle but i think taht was cuz not really warm yet

[vagrant knot]

was nice i got a basically full bottle of two stroke oil

i then proceeded to fill my oil tank and theres now like 1/5th left in said bottle xd

but i mean chill shop got some discount paid in cash was like well ur the owner parts u gotta write off but was like half of that u can stick in ur pocket

[remote plume]

Anybody know their way around carburators and motor bycicles (mofas)?
Friend of mine's behaves very weirdly after some time of driving

[vagrant knot]

not really but if it starts acting weird is it getting too much air n the tank or something somehow or it just runs shit due to getting hot?

probz something like heat?

@lost nest can probz help best but as i just had iwth my ape, i assume fuel or heat issue causing it to sputter or act up

as if it runs fine at ends probz just something wit h heat or something when running longer times

[lost nest]

Idk shit

[vagrant knot]

never mind then lol

[lost nest]

Replace the plug(s) make sure the air filter is clean inspect the plug wire(s) and if all else fails push it into a lake

[vagrant knot]

aight so u failed squidge with a proper answer, can we push you in the lake?

[lost nest]

Might as well

[vagrant knot]

yay

anyways hwos u

[stable olive]

Sorry, I only can repair EVs and FCEVs

[vagrant knot]

boooo evs suck

[stable olive]

I don't pay for fuel😅

[vagrant knot]

just pay for a new 30k battery every 5years and if on roadtrip spend 30mins chargng it and sitll have less range than fuel

[stable olive]

I have an 8 year old Tesla battery in my 7 year old Mirai, I still can drive 150KM on a single charge

[vagrant knot]

wow a 150km

[stable olive]

It only fits a 24KW battery, the old battery was a 4KW Toyota battery, which was even worse

Besides, if I refill my hydrogen tank I can drive almost 1000 kilometer.
But that's only if I have to because hydrogen tanks like to sweat

So it's good enough for me

[vagrant knot]

ik i just trynna mess with ya but fr real i got nothing against electirc but teslas are iugly as fuck and its still shite range wise and recharging time

[potent flicker]

Still have the original battery in my 2014 hybrid

[vagrant knot]

not gnnna go into politcis but china even has better where they already have cabs having changable batterise

but its hybrid, thats still better than full electric

[potent flicker]

They're either or imo

a hybrid is better for where I live

In a city an ev is probably a better choice

[vagrant knot]

i mean better range not a lot of weight and have the electric drive thats a win

[potent flicker]

nope, hybrid is both

[stable olive]

Depends on how you drive, as much as possible I try to drive in someone's slipstream 😅

[vagrant knot]

but if u drive slow and such it can fully run the electric bit and will only use engine when the battry goes low

[potent flicker]

PHEV tends to be electric drive

[stable olive]

PHEV is an electric car with combustion generator, MHEV is usually an ICE car that feeds into electric motors.

The difference is a PHEV can drive full electric and can somewhat easily be converted to full EV, because they also have a plug for recharge.
An MHEV which most Toyotas are, don't have a plug and rely primarily on the combustion engine for the electricity.

I converted my FCEV, which is a MHEV, into a PHEV.

Most MHEVs also still have a normal gearbox where the 1st gear is electric and the rest is with combustion engine, PHEVs usually have no gearbox and work the same as EVs

[potent flicker]

That's what I said

Lecture me more please

[stable olive]

PHEVs still tend to be heavy

[stable olive]

Sorry, sleepy mind only reading half🤣

[vagrant knot]

phev be better htan as the generator uses less, theres a guy in us i saw on insta that has a truck fully electric hybrid that has a generator under the hood wich runs when needed as it isnt fully battery powered and it just runs really low amounts of diesel a hour vs what it drives due to being a generator

[stable olive]

If you don't charge a PHEV they become very inefficient because then the car has to run with a low power and RPM engine.

[vagrant knot]

what i seen the generator is enough to run the electrics and charge batters but due to not being a motor but a generator it just always runs at a set rpm really and uses waayyyyyy less fuel than a motor while still having the electric where it can also run bits without engine

[potent flicker]

Yeah, you don't have to charge the battery from an external source. Plug In Hybrids just are able to do it and reduce the overall cost of fuel

The Edison Trucks are the same concept but without the plug in

[vagrant knot]

yes those it was i refereed to

[stable olive]

If I look at my colleagues Pajero PHEV, it has a 150HP Electric motor and only an 80HP generator.
It weights I believe 2 tons that car.
I only know from him if he doesn't recharge his car uses 1 liter on 8KM, while if he charges it he drives 1L on 40KM

It's what he told me

[vagrant knot]

theyre basically waht it should be instead of full electric have the nice long range while also running electric fr decent bits and have its power without having way more weight added losing cargo space and long charge times

[stable olive]

There's a Chinese company that soon releases an PHEV SUV with 100KW battery and a 1L generator, they said it would be able to drive over 1200KM on a full battery and 60L of benzine.
I have no idea if they'll actually succeed

[potent flicker]

Yeah, that's the difference in charging vs not. The car is just charging the battery instead of the house

[stable olive]

I just hope Aptera will eventually come to EU, and then I'll drive for completely free😅

[vagrant knot]

60l of gas and electruc for 1200? i had my work van do like 1100 on 45l of diesel and being overloaded doing a steady 130 on highway and no city streets much

[stable olive]

That's Diesel, those aren't even allowed soon here where I live😅
They want to make every Diesel illegal in this area.

Also our work cars, 40L Diesel, barely reach 700KM.

[vagrant knot]

ik here too in rotterdam 2025 only electrics for cmpanys

[stable olive]

They even want to stop benzine?
Damn that's going far😅

[vagrant knot]

idk bout mine as i dont be on it anymore usually i did 800 a tank with plenty of city driving but if i did the hotel route with one tank id do a week of driving cros country doing 1200km easy albeit mostly highways id be never doing 100 just cruising at 130 and itd do 1200 on 40/45l diesel while being weighted with 700l of water in back plus tank weioght ladder weights not be aerodynamic cuz roof rack with bunch of ladders n shit

[stable olive]

Well, 1200KM in a boxy Chinese SUV the size of a Cullinan, I say, pretty impressive

I am thinking on getting a Ford Transit MHEV and rebuild it into a camper van

But it's hard finding an L3H2 or larger

[vagrant knot]

why not go for a old postal van and rip out the entire undercarriage and drive train and convert it ,but i can for sure tell ya ud probably not add much weight but once cnverted it be over 3500 requiring c1

so if u do

get a box van thats a be so u only need trailer license and it can be over 3500 but its strapped to the body

[stable olive]

Well, multiple reasons, I can't drive stick (I know, Ironic) and I prefer a more quiet vehicle, that's why I have a Mirai.

I want to rebuild my Mirai eventually into a UTE I think they're called

[vagrant knot]

how can u not drive stick?

u never got driving classes in it as usually thats the nrom really

a pickup that i can agree with as in theyre nice

[stable olive]

ADHD, autism and all the shinanigans.

Not to mention, my 1st car is my Mirai, which is an automatic

[vagrant knot]

i mean i got add and autism and i got mine, soon ill get truck

tuesday exam for c then i go for ce

tbf if u have license for 5years u automaticly get manaul

[stable olive]

The problem is, the sound of an ICE will eventually get too much for my brain as well, in my parents car I can drive roughly max 2 hours, usually less, in my Mirai I can drive easily double that.
Adding stick to already short attention span and I can drive for less than half an hour before making grave mistakes

[vagrant knot]

i mean if highays u barely gotta shift, why dont u try a half manual where u just shift and dont gotta use clutch\

i assume u run radio tough while drivng/ just turn that up to drown it out

[stable olive]

I only tried a Semi-auto once, but leave it in automatic most of the time because the end of the day I am done with thinking 😅
Yeah I got an Audi I think A4 Tiptronic as rental once.

[stable olive]

Doesn't help, I have earplugs in to dampen the sound while doing normal stuff😅

[vagrant knot]

tbf even if its hard should try tp push past ur limits even if it requires wearung headset for intstance thats sound deafening and with radio or such

[stable olive]

You literally can temporarily deafen me by slamming a car door if I don't have earplugs in😅
And it doesn't have to be a hard slam.

[vagrant knot]

WTF

[stable olive]

I mean, I am a mute, and I can hear very well, talking to me while it's crowded makes me near unable to hear what you say, sound overlap too much.

[vagrant knot]

a mute. like hard of hearing

?

[stable olive]

Mute as in I believe called in Dutch "Doofstom", I cannot speak.

[vagrant knot]

so u only sign/ type?

[stable olive]

Yep, or make sounds with my lips like popping sounds.

[vagrant knot]

is that due to the autism or ? cuz ur not deaf id assume u somehow with effort be like able to learn it or smth now u be adult? idk

[stable olive]

Well, when I was young my biological father sliced my throat in act of revenge (long story not for here).

[vagrant knot]

ah so ur not mute due to the autism but due to abuse/

am curious if not for here if u do my dm be open

[stable olive]

Yep😃

But my autism makes my sound sensitivity and stimulants sensitivity extremely high, which makes driving an ICE very very tiring'

[vagrant knot]

luckily i never had that and i do enjoy driving and trucks spooling turbos n shit

am curious bout ur bdad throat cutting but i wont ask further as i know that be sensitive shit, anyways imma go to bed

[stable olive]

I am busy trying to get a truck driving license for 1 with a double trailer, because I am an idiot.

[remote plume]

Hot might be it. It runs fine-ish™️ when cold and like 5 mins in it goes to shit, goes out if throttled up and choke also doesn't help

It was fine a couple months ago, he didnt drive much

[vagrant knot]

Are u sure the choke doesn’t stick so it stay open vs closed cause mine would get issues after few minutes and due at the light due to forgetting to s disengage chicle

Choke

[remote plume]

Yup, pulling the choke changes how bad it runs instantaneously

Playing with the choke while cold lets us get optimal mixture i think but not after its warmed up a bit

Then its just from shit to worse

Honestly feels like it's not getting any fuel and after 5 mins the carb is just empty

[vagrant knot]

Yeah def a fuel and if not timing issue like time to clean carb and fuel tank/ lines and adjust the carb properly for mixture it seems

[remote plume]

Aight thanks!

Up until the fuel filter its flowing good

Couldnt check further tbh

Yet

[hollow knoll]

Overheating and fuel starvation would be my first two guesses

[remote plume]

What could I do against overheating? The motor gets plenty fresh air into the fins

[hollow knoll]

Air cooled then?
As long as the fins are clean, then that's probably not the issue.

[remote plume]

Yeah, all clean

Alr

[lost nest]

I would argue that hybrids are, for the next 30-50 years, the best solution

if we had went full in with hybrid tech 10 years ago, and started producing vehicles which properly utilize the benefits - the whole world would be better off.

Imagine tesla plaid levels of acceleration with a 150 hp diesel engine/generator package in a truck that can still pull a 5th wheel and gets 30 mpg when not towing instead of 12.

[bronze gulch]

I mean trucks are not that bad these days hell my dads 2010 F150 gets 18 freeway and is about 15 when towing our 4-5 person camper (5.0 V8)

granted some of the efficiency gains have been lost to general size increases but I agree that some kind of kurs system would help cars significantly even if it was only say 50-100 hp electric and only kinked in on when starting from a stop

granted over all I agree that the hybrid system or a __ __electrick hybrid power trian is better than EVs by a contry mile

[lost nest]

18 is ass

I say, with a truck that does the same

[remote plume]

My 21 year old got 27mpg lol and I drive like a maniac

[bronze gulch]

my 94 pickup gets 25-27 and well it is first gen EFI

on the flip side it fits in supcompact parking spaces so... (still has 6' bed and all the aero of a brick)

[vagrant knot]

Due to no dpf

[bronze gulch]

nah its auto but there are fewer emmision systems on it

[vagrant knot]

Yes dpf fucked vehicles over tough with reliability

[stable olive]

The problem with hybrid is they take up a lot of space and have added complexity.

Currently MHEV or mild-hybrids are least reliable of all vehicles.

[stable olive]

That's never gonna happen with that power ratio.
The Plaid has like 1100HP, 3 motors and 1400nm torque.

[lost nest]

You don't need 1100 hp worth of engine to accelerate that fast... you just need the motor and enough battery current to supply it for a short period of time, and just enough engine to recharge that battery in a reasonable time after the fact.

If you design it for highway use you can spend 15 minutes charging for 10 seconds of hard acceleration.

There's a reason diesel electric systems are both incredibly efficient and reliable.

And it's because the engine doesn't have to be subject to sudden, violent loads, and can be much smaller and tuned exactly for the rpm it needs to run at relative to the power output of the electric drive

[vagrant knot]

Hence why they just use a regular generator that has the ability to charge and give power to electric drive train at same time without lacking enough power to do such under stress

[lost nest]

The reason why the cars are unreliable shitheaps is cost savings driving shittier designs, and gasoline use in most cases. Diesel is way more durable but less cheap to build

[river relic]

I mean, the CEO of Toyota has pretty much said hybrids are the future and will be for a long while. Especially in the U.S. Until the infrastructure is built and can sustain EVs, they will be a niche market.
I also predict Tesla won't be around in 10-15 years.

Diesel in the U.S isn't popular. And somehow even though its cheaper to refine than gasoline, its far more expensive.

[lost nest]

Yeah that's just greed

[river relic]

If I recall correctly the only thing cheaper to refine is kerosine.

[lost nest]

I think the next gen batteries will enable much higher battery output per kg/volume and hybrids will make more sense

Especially for trucks

In the US someone has the brilliant idea to price fuel based on energy output

So you end up getting the same miles per dollar rather than more miles per gallon of diesel.

Several years ago diesel was way cheaper until they did that

It's still way more efficient in fuel and money to drive a diesel truck if you're towing though

Still don't understand how that works

I kinda want a hybrid Tacoma with a 6 foot bed and a camper shell

Problem is they went for power output rather than efficiency with the taco

So only 22 mpg

But it's like 400 something hp combined lol

Oh shit the Ford maverick is like 30-40 mpg. Shame it's a Ford

And it's cheap as shit

Holy crap that's cheap. Under 30k

[river relic]

Battery tech has a long ways to go before its viable in colder climates. So even with better output batteries they can't compete in cold temps, yet.

Also, the towing capacity on battery alone is just downright pitiful. A EV Ford Transit 250 loaded down can't even drive more than 50 miles before needing a charge.

Diesel pricing is just a scam imo in the U.S. But then you'd have to really push past the negative stigma that its "dirty" thats been pervasive for decades. Which won't be a simple thing.

Diesel trucks getting better mpg is cause of the ludicrous amount of torque at low rpms vs a standard gas engine. I mean the old Ford 7.3 could make 505 foot pounds of torque at 1600 rpm with an auto transmission. No gas engine even gets close to that.

[lost nest]

Yeah but energy is energy

In theory a gasser should only differ by the difference in thermal efficiency when towing and torque can be geared for

But yet sticking a trailer on a diesel barely even affects mpg lol

And the gasser cuts in half

Maybe the thermal difference is just that much more

I know it's a thing it just doesn't work intuitively for me is all

[river relic]

But under load the diesel is more efficient vs a gas engine. The higher compression ratio and stupidly low rpm with torque makes it easier to move than say an equivilent 7.3 Ford big block v8 gas engine in 2024 gets 485 foot pounds at 4000 rpm. Not very effecient vs the 7.3 power stroke.

[lost nest]

Ope no 6 foot bed on the maverick

Not buying another truck unless I can fit in the back

[river relic]

Oh, speaking of Toyota trucks, they just had a massive recall on a bunch of models due to "foreign material" left over in the engine from manufacturing requiring a complete engine swap...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61708841/toyota-tundra-lexus-lx-engine-replacement-recall/

98,568 Tundras all need new engines. Thats an expensive recall fix for Toyota.

Quick lookup points to nearly 19k for the engine. Add in average labor rate for recall work and I'm guessing around 30k give or take per recall.

[lost nest]

Yeah but at least they fix it

Unlike gm

Who's frames are rotting out in 3 years or less and they are telling the customers to pound sand.

When Toyota frames rotted out they recalled them.

I've been seeing a bunch of tacos listed for cheap ish with new frames

I'm not gonna buy anything now though. I really want a cheap beater that I can pull the bed off and build into a shitty overlander

[river relic]

Ive usually found that the Japanese/Korean manufacturers generally recall more willingly than the U.S brands. However, the airbag saga still brings back memories.

I honestly never understood how Takata ever managed to stay in business after that and stay afloat till 2018.

[lost nest]

My truck still needs that recall done Iol

[river relic]

Thats a recall that should not be ignored, imo.

[lost nest]

Yeah

But here we are

[river relic]

Shouldn't be anymore Takata airbags left on the shelves anymore, so its definitely safe to have the recall done.
God, I remember that, recalling the replacement airbags for the original airbag recall....

[lost nest]

11/10

[river relic]

Oh hey, Ive replaced the airbag in this vehicle 3 times already...

[hollow knoll]

Yeah, I need to get that airbag recall done on my Pontiac Vibe...

[vagrant knot]

owh yeah def

[vagrant knot]

tbf 8ft be better then , cuz htren u can lay in it straight and have room left for some headboard with storage n shit

[lost nest]

It's 4+ feet wide. There's plenty of room next to a bed for storage.

Plus nobody makes 8 foot beds anymore

Not unless it's a full size 3/4 ton truck

[vagrant knot]

yeah but u said old one

nvm im blind but 8feet beb etter

i mean we got a fresh hillux earlier this year and we got like a 6feet bed 1n half cab

so

thinkg 8feet be possible too still with single cab

[stable olive]

Wait, if I would make my Mirai into a UTE, I would have max 2m bed😐

[bronze gulch]

""Diesel in the U.S isn't popular. And somehow even though its cheaper to refine than gasoline, its far more expensive.""
most of that is taxes and it depends on the area in some places diesel is with in a few cents of the cheap stuff

[vagrant knot]

diesel used to be cheaper here by like 50cents ever since covid its at max 30cents in europe

[river relic]

Its 20 cents more expensive than regular 87 octane gas in my city. And taxes are within 1 cent of each other. Even if it was the same price or 10 cents cheaper its still price gauging. Gasoline is one of the most refined products vs diesel, where as the only thing less refined is kerosine. See the problem? It should be vastly cheaper than gasoline.

[hollow knoll]

Prices are based on demand, not cost

At least in a so-called free market

[potent flicker]

At that point I’d just go with a Tundra

[potent flicker]

@lost nest https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C8qEVTdNspr/?igsh=MWUzOGR3ajJiZ3hzYQ==

[nova finch]

Guys James and Jesse left Donut media. In addition to Bigtime, that’s now 4 members of Donut that have left

[flint tangle]

It's not that surprising tbh

[vagrant knot]

Tought my ape died again form hot cylinder

Nope just outta fuel

Wich weird as liter in it still but it ran ish with choke hood thing always extra fuel with me

[stable olive]

I was watching their video yesterday.
I already saw the downfall coming last year.
Their content became less fun as well.

[stable olive]

Maybe it did but you don't know it yet🙃

[vagrant knot]

Nah cuz it ran fine immediately agtwr and first time it died isntantly started with choke and after fueling jerrycan ran fine

[stable olive]

It was a joke😐

[potent flicker]

Vapor locked?

[vagrant knot]

?

tank was just empty lol

bit that was in it fuel probz not in reach idk it just died light didnt come on lol

[vagrant knot]

Heh for my ape I just had fire department and police infront of my door

[potent flicker]

What did it do?

[vagrant knot]

front was a bit lower than rear so fillerneck got fuel in due to air bubble moving/ heat expanding fuel

so it leaked but it was parked infront of the building boiler room so people called fire department for gas smel

[remote plume]

Ahh rip lol

[vagrant knot]

Fun times

[remote plume]

Funme times

[vagrant knot]

sorta ignored them first rang as i hit utton to open door