#archived-culture-study-visa | German Learning and Discussion | Page 35

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Techniker Krankenkasse

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I've read someone had to pay health insurance for the time they've lived in Germany without it
I am not sure, you might be right (don't remember tbh)

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my health insurance applied from the moment I came to DE, although I only got it 2-3 months later

tight kelp Sep 9, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Wht provider? I've read someone had to pay health insurance for the time they've lived in Germany without it
that doesn't sound right. Unless they somehow had a job but didn't have insurance or something

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Ahh okay and do you reckon my pills would be stopped at customs? And if I'd be able to get them? The woman at the post office asked what's in the pack and mother told her and said there was no problem

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 8:36 AM

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then it should be fine

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worth a try anyway, not like you can get them another way without going through the doctor and that

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 8:45 AM

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double check with the doctor and the appointment times as some places specifically only take peeps with private health insurance or have private insurance only hours

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:11 AM

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@tight kelp since insurance is obligatory from the moment you register here, I've also read that you will be asked to pay for the unpaid period once you apply for health insurance

That stuff is best to check with insurance

Maybe you got lucky, or you presented papers from your eu country insurance that you are covered there for a while, and probably there are few more exceptions

Tk has english speaking line as well

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 9:12 AM

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and the whole brexit situation makes it even more difficult because even the UK doesn't know what they're doing there, yet alone the government agencies who have to enact the policies

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Ya the doctors where I live is just1 doctor lol

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And 1 to 2 receptionists

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Is ikk health insurance public or private?

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My boyfriend n his parents +family 8nsured with that

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:16 AM

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@glad current you can check jameda.de and look up for gyn doc in the area
Pills here are not covered (maybe for students but I'm not sure)
You can go to any doc that says they accept 'selbstzahler' and pay for the visit, no insurance card of any type needed

NHS I guess is not free, in the same way public health insurance here isn't - when you work, it's deducted from the salary

Different here is that even if you don't work, you have to pay for it

You can apply for social help and then they pay for you, or check private insurance for payment of smaller premium until you start working

When you start, and if you plan to stay and live in Germany until retirement, it's suggested to pick public, since premiums are fixed, while in private they go up with age and sickness you pick up along the way

And you can under some circumstances change from private to public, one is getting a job

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Ah thanks for the info , would I be able to get any social money though or would I have to move out of my boyfriends parents home to get any?

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Since ethey said I'd probably have to and then I'll get money for rent etc and my train and course money

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Ehic is valid insurance for until you're not working or studying (in uni or such)

It's just that then when you apply for own insurance you'll have to give them proof that you were insured until you applied, otherwise they have right to bill you from the moment you've registered here

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:21 AM

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What would class as proof? Because in the UK were not issued medical cards anymore they were disbanded like 10 years ago or something

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I'm not sure how you can apply for social help if you're not german
I guess eu citizens have some options but I haven't looked at that

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Medical cards proved you was covered by nhs

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:22 AM

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@glad current oh, it's some special paper form that you get from your insurance, like 104 or something in numbers like that

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Ah I have my national insurance number which is money deducted from wages but I've not had any deducted I think (didnt look at pay slips because I asked my work for the number but didnt what anything back since it was an online payslip site)

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:24 AM

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I know that when you've been working for more than a year (or two?) and get laid off you can apply for social help of some kind

Or if you quit and after 3 months you still cannot find a job, then also you can apply

But if you were never working here and contributed, I have no clue if you have any rights or how to get them

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:25 AM

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Ahh ok I've been trying to look for a job in like kitchen like cleaning dishes kinda thing emailed 2 places but no reply

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:25 AM

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And always, you can try to go with ehic card for whatever issue you have, to general practicioner who accept 'gesetzliche Krankenkassen' and before you make an appointment, ask for price

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You might end up not paying for the visit
But I don't know, didn't use that

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@glad current i think best approach for such low paying jobs would be to knock on the doors with cv in hand and smile on the face

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Haha yes maybe just I dont have a high level German speaking like I'm learning a1 right now

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Btw Easy way to get insured is to marry someone who is publicly insured, then you have zero hassle 😂

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:28 AM

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😔 😔 gotta wait till my boyfriend works and has health insurance form himself since hes on the family plan

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:28 AM

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@glad current you could always compose simple letter in simple sentences, translate them on deepl, ask here for checkup and bring that with you

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@glad current tell him to hurry up 😂

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Haha yes hes applying but not passing hoping he gets something about one of his dream jobs he applied for

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:35 AM

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would I be able to get any social money though
@glad current generally only if you have already worked in Germany. Technically, you can get it regardless but it's such a load of shit you have to go through that it's not worth it, especially with Brexit coming up

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Meh I kinda would need the money if I dont get a job asap

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Since my monthly outgoings is 320 or so

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Or more ya

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And if I need to buy pills and appointments

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:43 AM

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if you hate yourself and are desperate, you could get paid for captioning videos: https://www.rev.com/freelancers/captions

Rev

Closed Captioning Jobs | Freelance Captioning Jobs - Rev

Work as a freelance captioner for Rev. Enjoy the flexibility of working from home and get paid weekly for captioning.

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I did it for a while and it's very meagre money, but better than nothing I guess

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you could just marry your bf and get on his insurance :')

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 9:44 AM

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how many dollars an hour would you say?

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for the captioning?

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Uf, freelance stuff, that's tax nightmare, no?

Or you don't have to report until you get more than 450 or whatever is minijob limit?

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 9:47 AM

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i'm in a country where it's no-where near as bad, especially since i wouldn't be claiming any deductions and just looking for some side cash til i get a fulltime job. i doubt i'd earn enough to even get taxed

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Ngl writing captions seems fun

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Because I watch my shows with subtitles n videos with them

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Like English audio English subtitles

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Bc sometimes I understand it better reading it instead of going back 5 times

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Yeah, we posted simultaneously @deep vessel :)

I remember reading that you have to figure out a lot to freelance when living in Germany
Not to mention double taxation possibilities since it is USA site it looks

But I just read a bit and run away from freelancing idea even though I do have tax advisor 😂

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:52 AM

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how many dollars an hour would you say?
depends how much you do and the quality of the videos. I just did it on the side when I was bored to buy my own food lol

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Mm ye does it get taxed ?

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:52 AM

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here are some of the stats:

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no, because there is no way you go over the limit with these crap earnings

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:52 AM

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😂

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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you can make a proper job out of it if you want to

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and earn a decent amount

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Should get my boyfriend to do that too since he plays games and boosts someone elses account to a higher rank thing and gets paid

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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but it is actually exhausting listening to all these boring and stupid videos

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Half a dollar to dollar for a minute of video sounds okish

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Is it like what would you say

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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and they are quite strict with the captioning guidelines

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Dull videos or

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 AM

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it is really varied

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I did a series once of 5 min videos

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and it was actually really interesting, I was enjoying just watching it lol

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:54 AM

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but it is actually exhausting listening to all these boring and stupid videos
@sullen robin

Ah, yeah, that's definitely a con, since you probably can't watch video before you take it?

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:54 AM

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no, you can iirc

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but you have to be fast before someone claims it

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Ok, better

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Ahh so it's like first come first served

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:55 AM

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because you can only return 3 videos a week or sth

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I would return those with very strong Indian accents or terrible audio halfway through

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:55 AM

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O God ate muddy tomato

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:55 AM

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they are usually understanding if you explain that though because no one could understand such videos

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Heh, those with stronf indian accents are in desperate need of a captions 😂

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:55 AM

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What type of videos is it like lots of publishers or just 1 companies videos?

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:56 AM

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it is extremely varied

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:56 AM

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It says it can be youtube videos as well

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:56 AM

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from what I recall, I captioned: a Minecraft video, highlights of an Overwatch game, a web series, a webtoon series (which was really good), and some lectures

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:56 AM

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In before it's just some voices over 5 min craft videos

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:57 AM

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the Minecraft video sticks out to me because it was just some robot voice speaking nonsense and then he repeated the whole text after 5 mins

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Lol

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 9:57 AM

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lmao

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:57 AM

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it was really weird, especially since no one in the comments of the video said something

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and it was a big channel, it was so weird lol

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if you can translate from other languages, you get a lot more money

tame forum Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Thanks pferd

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Gonna check it out

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Would my country be Germany or the uk

tame forum Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Especially if i caj write german captions, it cud be really fun

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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you have to put your address

tame forum Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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*can

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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On before they give me German subtitles

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 AM

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you only get English videos, unless you state you are doing translation work

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they test you though, so make sure you set time aside for it

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Ah so I cant sign up now and to the tests etc later

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 9:59 AM

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not sure, maybe

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better just to wait until later

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here are my total earnings:

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not that much, but decent when you have no other income

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and if you get into the grove, you can earn a decent amount

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I just did it casually and checked the offers every now and then

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I stopped once I got my job

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Kinda free money too if you're bored

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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It also looks like a good way to earn a money to spend on games for example
Like, when you want just a few bucks a month and don't want to really pay out of your pocket

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Among us :D

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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yeah, defo check it out

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Ty ^^

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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it is only a supplement though, much better to find a real job

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and it takes much longer to do these captions than you first think (until you get used to it), so don't get discouraged initially

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Yeah still looking for jobs and a person in my language centre is looking for jobs for me too

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And I think the course leaders or something here is looking if I can get social money etc

sullen robin Sep 9, 2020, 10:08 AM

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okay dokey

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ich wünsche dir dann viel Glück

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 10:43 AM

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checking out the website and turns out they no longer do translations

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wait no nvm that's document translation

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they still do subtitle translation

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:44 AM

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That pays more nk

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No?

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Their services

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Oh

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Didnt capture all

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Videos translated is 5 a min or so

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 10:48 AM

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pay rate is $1.50-$3.00 per video minute for foreign subtitles

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Ah yeah they deduct some too forgot that

full sable Sep 9, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Helloo, What's the best city in germany in your opinion?

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 10:59 AM

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depends on what you intend to do there.
i loved the city that i lived in but found Hamburg to be very beautiful

humble bough Sep 9, 2020, 11:56 AM

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It's a matter of personal preference to a great extent. Certain cities tend to be quite polarizing in people's opinions of them lol

glad current Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Yikes u know how I was stressing about pills

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Yssh got them in post today was expecting a pack of 3x 21 days

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No I got like

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16 months worth

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Like 16 packets wtf

deep vessel Sep 9, 2020, 12:59 PM

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how much did it cost?

fiery edge Sep 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

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fülle ein bewerbungsformular aus und bin auf "Kündigungfrist" gestoßen. was soll man hier eigentlich eingeben?

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glad current Sep 9, 2020, 4:26 PM

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free

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bc mum picked up my prescription from the uk pharmacy

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n cost like £3 to send in post lol

hallow oyster Sep 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

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@fiery edge if you're currently working, Kündigungsfrist is the duration of your notice period, so if you quit today when can you actually leave and start working for someone else
It's in the contract, often it can be '4 weeks until the 15 or 30 of the month' and similar expressions

8f you're not working and have no other limitations, put 0

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Or 'none', that'd be 'kein' I think, check the gender :)

dry arch Sep 9, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@fringe summit gute Neuigkeiten

fringe summit Sep 9, 2020, 11:47 PM

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👍

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Freut micj

dry arch Sep 9, 2020, 11:48 PM

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ich fand das nur etwas verwirrend einen Highschool-Abschluss ein Abitur zu nennen

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xd

fringe summit Sep 9, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Wir sagen einfach high school certificate (HSC; unser lokale System), das alle Highschool-Abschlüsse vertreten kann, also der Name hängt von Land ab oder

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Aber alles wird gemeint

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Ist aber komisch, aber wenigstens nicht kompliziert

dry arch Sep 9, 2020, 11:53 PM

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ich dachte also dass sich der Begriff "Abitur" nur auf den Abschluss von irgendeinem Gymnasium beziehen konnte

fiery edge Sep 9, 2020, 11:59 PM

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thank u @hallow oyster

upper matrix Sep 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Quick PSA for people living in Germany: In a few hours (10.09.20, 11:00 UTC+2), you'll probably hear a bunch of sirens or similar warnings (like on radio stations). Those are just for testing purposes so nothing to worry about. Still good to know in advance I guess :P

More info here: https://warnung-der-bevoelkerung.de/

Warnung der Bevölkerung

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glad current Sep 10, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Ya normally hear them sometimes on Saturdays where I live too

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Heard one in Celle the other week is it a fire alarm ? That's what I've read

hallow oyster Sep 10, 2020, 6:45 AM

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@upper matrix thanks!

bronze basin Sep 10, 2020, 7:15 AM

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sitmme ich zu, danke sehr!

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:26 AM

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maybe a stupid question... but do you think it is possible to set up in Austria/Germany with a budget around 9k eu?

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:27 AM

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@high lodge depends what you mean by setup

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would you have a source of income within the next 6 months

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:27 AM

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like start living there

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:28 AM

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its a question that needs a lot of specification, would you only have that 9k until finding a job, what kind of area do you want to live in, what kind of apartment/house

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try giving us more details and we'd be able to answer it better

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Some of question i believe i did answer here but to repeat. Finding a job will be done ofc asap, which i was asking the ways to get it here. Area is kinda 2nd thing like my priority is to move to Austria (if that fails germany) and i am IT Soft. Tester so something that has offers in that Beruf. And appertment can be small like max up to 40 m2 i believe

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:30 AM

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then its more than viable

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:30 AM

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rly?

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:30 AM

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I did the same with 5k, if its austria, a city like vienna is affordable and has loads of it opportunities

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and even if its not vienna, the cost of living in cities outside of it is even more ridiculously low

deep vessel Sep 10, 2020, 9:31 AM

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If it helps add context, Germany requires at the moment 10,236 euros per year for a student visa. I.e. approximate costs of living for a student are 10k a year. it's good to have at least 6 months of living costs saved up plus the amount it would take you to return to your home country if shit hits the fan

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:31 AM

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aye but they said theyre EU

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:32 AM

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yes i am EU

deep vessel Sep 10, 2020, 9:32 AM

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yeah, but it's still a good guide for how much money it costs to live

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:32 AM

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I think its viable if youre not a dumbass with your money

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true

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:33 AM

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and uhm why 6 months and not like 2 or 3 months? do you assume that finding job will be that difficult that it will take half of that and ofc then you always work at least 1 month for free

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:33 AM

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6 months is worst case scenario

deep vessel Sep 10, 2020, 9:34 AM

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the last position you want to be in is no job at 3 months in, no money, and no escape plan

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I dont doubt, especially if youre in the cpaital, you will find something if you work hard, however you also have to keep in mind how long it takes to get settled into the country plus how covid-19 has likely made compeition even hotter

deep vessel Sep 10, 2020, 9:34 AM

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in all things it's good to give yourself a large safety buffer

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:34 AM

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mhm

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 9:35 AM

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well if shit does not fall with whole global situation i propably will try to move out at the end of this year or in the begin of next year

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:39 AM

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good luck

tight kelp Sep 10, 2020, 9:45 AM

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when i came here i had little more than 3k

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and we were two

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:46 AM

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are you two livin comfortably now

tight kelp Sep 10, 2020, 9:46 AM

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very much so

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we're trying to up our game, only one of us has a stable job atm, and we've never been both employed at the same time

fleet pelican Sep 10, 2020, 9:50 AM

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peepoWew

tame forum Sep 10, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Rough guide. I live in the west of germany. And spend per year 6k euros

100 euro insurance
280 rent
70 food
50 semester fee
Cant think of anything else

abstract vector Sep 10, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Hi. Does anybody know how to become a tourist guide in Austria or Germany (Austria preferred)? What competence should one posses and/or which type of school in Austria should one finish?

tight kelp Sep 10, 2020, 3:20 PM

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wow that rent is super cheap fiona

high lodge Sep 10, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@tight kelp i see semester fee so i guess student...

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unless it is something different than i thing it is

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think*

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god

glad current Sep 10, 2020, 4:23 PM

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280 rent? Do you just have a room in a shared house or own appartment?

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Electiricy, water & internet included?

deep garnet Sep 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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So I’m a German citizen (I have a dual citizenship) can I fly to Germany like until the end of the year? Google isn’t really helping :/

vivid anchor Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 PM

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What's generally considered the best college for STEM majors in Germany?

hidden briar Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@deep garnet as a German citizen you can always come in, depending on where you come from you need to quarantine.

deep garnet Sep 10, 2020, 5:25 PM

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@deep garnet as a German citizen you can always come in, depending on where you come from you need to quarantine.
@hidden briar Im coming from the states. So I’m hoping. I don’t mine the quarantine haha. Just wanna visit my family

mild quiver Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@deep garnet you can come but there's a mandatory quarantine. you can leave it sooner if you get tested and have the results come back clean. a kiwi friend of mine had to do it in köln too

deep garnet Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@deep garnet you can come but there's a mandatory quarantine. you can leave it sooner if you get tested and have the results come back clean. a kiwi friend of mine had to do it in köln too
@mild quiver im hoping soo. 😭 I just miss Germany

tame forum Sep 10, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@glad current, @tight kelp everything's included in the wg. Butt theres this another student WG where the rent is 180 euros. I applied there and have my fingers crossed.

glad current Sep 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Wg? And is it shared or your own appartment sorry @tame forum

tight kelp Sep 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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wohngemeinschaft

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it's a shared flat. You get one room and shared kitchen and bathroom

glad current Sep 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Ahh ok ty

humble bough Sep 10, 2020, 7:22 PM

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the flats and WGs in student housing in potsdam had similar rent levels tbh; of course they had their disadvantages due to being student housing but the prices were similarly super low compared to non-student WGs

olive summit Sep 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I paid about 250 when I lived in Student WG

amber perch Sep 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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what are some important things to remember if one chooses to live in a WG

analog anvil Sep 11, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Gibt es Leute, die arbeiten in Deutschland als Entwickler ohne Deutschkentnisse ? Anyone works in Germany as a developer without knowing much german?

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Ich möchte wissen, ob es in Deutschland möglichkeiten gibt, um mit weniger Deutschkentnisse als eine Entwicklerin zu arbeiten

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 6:54 AM

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@amber perch don't sexile your roommates. don't leave dirty dishes in the sink or the stovetop a mess. do your share of the chores. socialise with your roommates. those are my tips

amber perch Sep 11, 2020, 6:55 AM

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what's sexile

tight kelp Sep 11, 2020, 6:59 AM

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sexual exile. I dunno

amber perch Sep 11, 2020, 7:02 AM

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ok thanks

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 7:09 AM

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it's when you have sucy loud intercourse that makes it uncomfortable for your roommates to be in the flat at the same time

amber perch Sep 11, 2020, 7:10 AM

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well I wont ever have to worry about that issue i guess

tight kelp Sep 11, 2020, 7:35 AM

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lol

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you never know tho ;)

amber perch Sep 11, 2020, 7:58 AM

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heh

hallow oyster Sep 11, 2020, 8:33 AM

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@analog anvil based on Berlin experience I'd say it is possible in big cities. Just check the ad and it will be clear if they need German or not

You can check glassdoor and see for yourself for type of work you're interested in

humble bough Sep 11, 2020, 10:14 AM

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I always thought "sexile" was just for kicking your roommates out of the flat so you could have sex lol

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:41 AM

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anyone been through frankfurt airport lately and got any idea how long check in after arriving takes? just wondering to book my train ticket

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 10:43 AM

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depends on if you're flying international, within the eu, or domestic

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:43 AM

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international

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 10:45 AM

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and how long is the train ride to the airport?

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:45 AM

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no i mean i wanna book a ticket from airport to my city

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there's a good offer about 1:15 hours after landing

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but im curious if that's enough time to go through the airport

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 10:45 AM

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ahh. 1.15 should be fine

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buuut get a flexi one in case of landing delays

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:46 AM

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im probably gonna take one 2 hours after flight

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just to stick on the safe side

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 10:47 AM

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tyere's also some food joints up around the airport so you can grab a bite to eat and make your way around

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do you have the db app yet?

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:47 AM

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yep

deep vessel Sep 11, 2020, 10:48 AM

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perfect. keep an eye on that (and announcements) for platform changes

dry ravine Sep 11, 2020, 10:48 AM

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👌

warped atlas Sep 11, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Guys, do I have to write down a Mieterkündigung to stop my contract with the Vermieter, or is it enough to tell him my intentions? (Written via Whatsapp)

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And just work it out afterwards with him

frigid storm Sep 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Hallo, ich bin mir schon bewusst dass diese Frage euch ein bisschen Komisch sein kann, aber gibt's hier jemanden der an der ETH studiert? Ich hab ein paar Fragen danach und es würde mich freuen, mit jemandem zu beratschlagen

prime sentinel Sep 11, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Schiess los, wenn jemand vorbeikommt, der in der Lage ist, deine Frage zu beantworten, würde er das machen. Besser als hier abzuwarten.

frigid storm Sep 11, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@prime sentinel Naja, die Fragen die ich stellen möchte sind etwas persönlich, oder eher von persönlichen Quellen kommen. Deshalb glaube ich dass das besser wäre wenn ich direkter nachfrage

exotic barn Sep 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I don't know if that's the channel where post this question, but how are considered the LGBTQ people in Germany?

humble bough Sep 11, 2020, 7:38 PM

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probably depends a lot on where you are within Germany -- you'll definitely get a different reaction in a random village somewhere than you would in Berlin -- but my understanding is that it's generally fairly accepting here

faint kelp Sep 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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this might sound like a stupid question but do you count as a student if you attend studienkolleg?

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like it's something that's kind of bothered me

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just need clarification

quasi stone Sep 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Well if u attend a college you are def considered a student yes.

faint kelp Sep 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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aight cool

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because I thought it would have a different underlying meaning

olive summit Sep 11, 2020, 11:06 PM

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is the travis scott burger in German mcdonalds? very important question

dry arch Sep 12, 2020, 12:20 AM

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<@&305455824174710787>

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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hey dont be a narc, someone asked where to find transgender kneesocks here so this is not that bad

grand patio Sep 12, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Not sure if you wanna imply anything wrong about kneesocks worn by transgender, but pls do not.
Mind you, that ping wasn't for you, but for someone else and thank you for that ping, Nate.

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 1:37 AM

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by "bad" i meant off-topic

grand patio Sep 12, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Well, then you just misunderstood. The message in question got deleted.

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 1:44 AM

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my bad 😳

lilac portal Sep 12, 2020, 10:03 AM

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230 euros, you live cheap

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I pay 450 euros for a wg

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I gotta move

fleet pelican Sep 12, 2020, 11:28 AM

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440 here, but for its perks i cant complain

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 11:37 AM

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damn that's almost how much we pay for our 1 bedroom apartment, big city?

tight kelp Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 AM

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i pay around 600 for a full blown apartment 👀 but including utilities and everything

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450 for a wg seems crazy, i used to pay less than that for a non-shared apartment

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 11:55 AM

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its roughly 530 for us

humble bough Sep 12, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I pay 400 cold for my room in a WG (~430 warm), and that's p good price-wise for my area from what I can tell

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but then I live inside the ring in Berlin so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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single-person apartments in my area seem to be ~600 so I'm still saving money over that lol

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student housing when I looked into that was closer to ~200 iirc

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but I didn't get space there in time

odd bison Sep 12, 2020, 1:28 PM

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450 for a wg seems crazy, i used to pay less than that for a non-shared apartment
@tight kelp Dortmund isnt really a big city

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happy

tight kelp Sep 12, 2020, 2:33 PM

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it's top 10 largest in the country 👀 aachen is like 23rd, suck it

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btw heeeyyy foxxo how you been

odd bison Sep 12, 2020, 3:00 PM

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im not saying that aachen is a big city snakelol what i wanted to say is that 450 for a wg in münchen or berlin is quite ok

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im alright ^^ we could do a nrw meetup again! I

tight kelp Sep 12, 2020, 3:02 PM

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hmm sure but then you're paying a lot and you have the disadvantage of living in münchen or berlin mmlol

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im alright ^^ we could do a nrw meetup again! I
@odd bison yeah let's

high lodge Sep 12, 2020, 4:08 PM

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so uhm.. question, which city or area i should study first if i want to move to Germany? (because in Austria it is propably something near Vienna )

tight kelp Sep 12, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Anywhere basically. There are many good unis in Germany

humble bough Sep 12, 2020, 4:51 PM

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more specific recommendations would depend on what you want to study

dense cradle Sep 12, 2020, 5:09 PM

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where would a good place to move be if i want a job in tech? i plan to get a degree in software engineering before i move

olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 5:09 PM

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NRW gang let's gooo

timid arrow Sep 12, 2020, 5:11 PM

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olive summit Sep 12, 2020, 5:14 PM

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not in the countryside at least 👼

odd bison Sep 12, 2020, 5:21 PM

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so uhm.. question, which city or area i should study first if i want to move to Germany? (because in Austria it is propably something near Vienna )
@high lodge In general 'd say NRW, it's great for students cuz it's not pricey and has some good unis. The semesterticket is really awesome because it lets you travel across the state by any means of transport and the cities aren't as big so it's quite comfy and from my experience makes communication easier. You go out a lot with frens cuz maybe you live on the same street or when you go out somewhere on a friday night you know that some of your fellas will be at the same bar, which doesn't occur as often if you happen to live in Munich or Berlin where you have to commute like 30-40 mins to reach the city centre.

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But it depends on your studies field ofc

humble bough Sep 12, 2020, 5:45 PM

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where would a good place to move be if i want a job in tech?
Berlin is probably one of the better cities for tech jobs even among other european cities tbh

high lodge Sep 12, 2020, 5:54 PM

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uhm...

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why do you assume, i am student lol

humble bough Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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probably because you asked which city or area you should study in?

hallow oyster Sep 12, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Nope, question was 'which area to study first' aka do research about some area before moving in it
So, what would be recommended areas...

That's how I understood it

My advice would be, doesn't matter much, find a job before moving and where you find a job, you'll get to know the area
And area in which you can find job you'd like sounds like a good area for you
Simple :)

Use glassdoor to get some feeling

tight kelp Sep 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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where would a good place to move be if i want a job in tech? i plan to get a degree in software engineering before i move
@dense cradle berlin but that's expensive. Frankfurt, düsseldorf

hallow oyster Sep 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@dense cradle same advice - check glassdoor for jobs you'd like and see in which cities they occur 😄

south lance Sep 13, 2020, 12:28 AM

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does anyone know why there are so few muslims in saxony?

warped atlas Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

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The stereotype is so, yes. But the very first time I actually went there last year, well, Dresden at least, seems to be pretty okay, although I‘m not really „flaunting my religion“ or anything, and I am clearly Asian with a dark complexion.

tight kelp Sep 13, 2020, 12:37 PM

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intolerance is quite covert in today's european society

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so you wouldn't notice it in everyday situations except for extreme cases

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dortmund for example is extremely cosmopolitan and culturally diverse¹, but now that it's election season you see a lot of overtly racist flyers ("churches instead of mosques", generic anti-immigrant stuff...), and you'd only be affected by racism or even notice it if you're a target and if a racist finds himself in a position of power over you, which is imo most likely if you live here and have to deal with stuff.
My husband looks (but isn't) middle-eastern and he's very recently been the target of a racist episode while he was working. It's an isolated case perhaps, but it's clear that racism does exist still even if not readily visible, and if it's present where I live, it seems fair to assume that the place in germany with the most voters for racist or extremely conservative parties would not be exempt from the problem.

¹ for istance it made me doubt what everybody had always said of germany, that there are very few black people, because there are a lot here, and only later i noticed that it doesn't seem to be as true elsewhere in germany

high lodge Sep 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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2020 saying that every countty needs 20% of muslims 20% of black 20% of middle east 20% of latino and 20% mixed of the aforementioned is tolerant but otherwise it is racist intolerant and so on

tight kelp Sep 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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what

winged quiver Sep 13, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Kinda random but I didn’t know you were married brzkr

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Congrats

south lance Sep 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@exotic barn @warped atlas @tight kelp thanks for answering my question 🙂

fleet pelican Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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What

tropic edge Sep 13, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I've just been warned about day tripping around Berlin in Brandenburg and stuff, there isn't really much reason other than people won't treat you well and in some cases try to overpower you. So yeah just that its islamophobic and more or less few muslims live there, and its not like that's the best Bundesland in terms of job opportunity and further studies.

exotic barn Sep 13, 2020, 8:20 PM

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When did school start in Germany?

humble bough Sep 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I'm not sure if it's the same for universities and other types of schools, but the school year for universities (or at least the ones around here) starts in October ordinarily (though my university has postponed this to November this semester for Those Reasons)

faint kelp Sep 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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October wow

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that's pretty late for me at least

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so it is quite literally the winter semester

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that's cool

rotund steppe Sep 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Hello! I recently decided I'm very interested in possibly permanently moving to Berlin from the US. this is a place where I can ask questions about culture and living in germany? I've obviously got a lot of research to do and over the next year I'm going to try to visit and figure out if I would fit in well with the country

olive summit Sep 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Same here, semester technically began on September 1st but lectures do not begin until November

rotund steppe Sep 13, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Thanks I'll check it out.

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In order to work in German banking or finance, what level of the language do you think I'd need to be at? Do you need to get to a C level or is it possible to get a job with a B1 or B2 level?

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I work in financial sales now and am trying to figure out what I'd need to do to actually be hireable over there.

winged quiver Sep 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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No advice on what level you need but the Goethe Institute is a great place for language training as far as I know

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I added it to my list of resources and will use it.

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Another question I have is, how do Germans typically treat foreigners? I am American and I hate the way a lot of us treat immigrants and just the general intolerance. If I go to Germany I'd be on the receiving end of that. Is it possible for an American to truly fully integrate into German society or will they always be somewhat of an outcast?

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:12 AM

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there is a really nice language school in berlin called Deutsch Akademie, I went to the one on Wittenbergplatz. You should ask for Simone, she was great! The rest of the teachers are pretty cool too

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I would love to take some classes if and when I do get there. My plan if I decide it's possible for me to do this is to try and study on my own and get to at least B1 level and then once I get over there, attempt to get to C1 by taking classes and just forcing myself to speak German everywhere I go

safe gale Sep 14, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I've just been warned about day tripping around Berlin in Brandenburg and stuff, there isn't really much reason other than people won't treat you well and in some cases try to overpower you. So yeah just that its islamophobic and more or less few muslims live there, and its not like that's the best Bundesland in terms of job opportunity and further studies.
@tropic edge wow I didnt know that. Good to know

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Where would a good bundesland be for studies and work?

olive summit Sep 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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depends exactly what you're looking for, obviously places like Berlin, Munich, etc. are hubs but every state has its own opportunities

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plenty of Unis are in smaller cities (near larger cities in some cases) as well so don't feel like you have to live in a metropolis for studies

hallow oyster Sep 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

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@rotund steppe
These two are great start for all things immigration and they're official ones

https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/discover-germany/immigration/

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikationen/Willkommen_in_Deutschland_en.html

Immigration

Germany's population is growing. Find out all about immigration, residence permits, qualifications and recognition on the portal of the Federal Government.

Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community

Welcome to Germany - Information for Immigrants

Are you planning to move to Germany? Or did you arrive recently, intending to stay here permanently? Taking a step like this involves a lot of changes. This brochure has been designed to help you find your way in Germany. It contains basic information to help you settle in mor...

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And if you need to talk with customers/clients/be consultant, companies in IT demand at least C1, if that's of any help

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 11:58 AM

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hey. i want to know what exactly this question means. are they asking me if i have any other feste Jobs on the days that i selected? are they asking me if i have 2 jobs?

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tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

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No rather would you like to work specific times during the weekdays you mentioned

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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theyre asking if u have work at specific times on ur chosen days @tame forum

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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the thing is.... m applying for a job at this lidl..... and they are asking me basically if i have an another lidl job, or a job at another company?

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i mean i dont have any work thats y am applying there

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so i dont get the logic of this question completely. why would i apply if i already had work.

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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oh wait

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Which is why it means what I said lol

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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i think so

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idek anymore im having a stronke

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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so like basically enzyme..... you are saying if i was to select one of these options...... then they wont put me in that shift because they think that i already have work on that time?

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correct?

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so i shuud go with nein correct?

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Nein means I can work anytime. The other options means you would like to work during those times.

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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no i think if i chose those options then they WOULDNT put me in those times

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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No they would put you in thay shift because this means I would like to be gebunden to this specific Arbeitzeit

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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because that would make them think i am already gebunden in those shifts

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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We need a third party to confirm

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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yo pierre , you wanna come out here?

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I'm filling out job applications now too sooo idk maybe I misunderstood as well

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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i mean the wording can mean both

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I'm inclined to interpret as 'do you want to pick specific working hours'

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running it through deepL also gives
Are you bound to fixed working hours?

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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my working friend also doesnt know

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kinda unepic

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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And most bosses tend to ask when you can work, rather than when you can't

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especially for casual work

tropic edge Sep 14, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Given this is what I assume to be Teilzeit then it makes sense. 3 hours a day for 6 days a week comes around to what a student can do

verbal linden Sep 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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in Teilzeit it isnt

grand patio Sep 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I agree with Enzyme and think that it means 'you can only work during the specified times' in case that you choose any of these options

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and I think it means that you are pretty flexible if you choose 'Nein'

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@rotund steppe
These two are great start for all things immigration and they're official ones

https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/discover-germany/immigration/

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikationen/Willkommen_in_Deutschland_en.html
@hallow oyster very helpful, thank you! That's a great PDF

Immigration

Germany's population is growing. Find out all about immigration, residence permits, qualifications and recognition on the portal of the Federal Government.

Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community

Welcome to Germany - Information for Immigrants

Are you planning to move to Germany? Or did you arrive recently, intending to stay here permanently? Taking a step like this involves a lot of changes. This brochure has been designed to help you find your way in Germany. It contains basic information to help you settle in mor...

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 12:42 PM

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okay then i am gonna go with nein

foggy prism Sep 14, 2020, 1:49 PM

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see I read it as can’t work during those times because of another job

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but either way if you’re flexible the answer is no

tame forum Sep 14, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Exactly^^^

amber perch Sep 14, 2020, 2:51 PM

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the welcome to germany booklet is from 2014 i think
some of the info in there might be outdated

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hmmm
https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/housing/looking/
"In contrast to many other countries, most Germans rent their homes - for good reason: There is an abundance of high-quality rental housing in every location and price range, from small flats to villas with gardens."

Looking for housing

Do you need help finding accommodation in Germany? The official website of the Federal Government explains what you should consider before and after moving in.

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what ive heard is the opposite

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housing shortage

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 3:03 PM

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If I find a job in germany and move there on a job visa, can I go to a German university to pursue my masters? Or can you only study with a student visa? The problem with the student visa is I'm pretty sure you can only work part time. I'll need to have a full time job to support myself.

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And yeah seems outdated... Every thing I see makes it sound like getting a place to rent is nearly impossible... That's one of the things I'm most stressed about

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 3:14 PM

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nope. you need to work full time for a work visa. and working full time and studying fulltime at the same time are actively discouraged because studying is equivalent to a full time job in itself

amber perch Sep 14, 2020, 3:14 PM

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i heard that many workplaces will have a special department

that is supposed to help newcomers integrate

e.g. finding housing, opening bank accounts, and other stuff one needs to do when they move to germany

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last time i visited a research institute and they told me they had such a department

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which is very nice to hear

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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additionally for a student visa you need the money saved up ahead of time

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Well that sucks because I worked full time and went to school full time here, but mostly cause this is America and it was the only way I could make ends meet lol.

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I hope I can find a workplace that has help like that. I've been looking at jobs all day though and since my degree is just a basic business degree I don't see any reason why I'd ever get hired over a German.. The more research I do the more I feel like this is just going to be impossible to accomplish...

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 3:56 PM

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what is an idea plan is to spend some time working and save up enough money to meet the visa requirements then go study your masters. you'll be far better off in your studies ehen you don't have to work full-time anyway

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Unfortunately I think with my student loans I owe for my first degree it would be impossible to save enough to both pay for rent and my old loans. I certainly can save up like 15k and move, but I'd need to keep working or else that 15k would go real quick

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:02 PM

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if your student loans are in the US, they can be deferred while you're in school

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but I suppose that depends on particular circumstances

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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You can defer US loans while in German school? That would be pretty freakin awesome if I could do that and get my masters

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I'm currently doing that lol

olive summit Sep 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Oh so that is possible? I'll be doing that

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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might depend on which German school but you can definitely defer US loans while doing a german master's program

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this page:
https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/international
has a link to an excel spreadsheet of international schools that are eligible for US federal student aid. iirc most german unis are listed as "deferral only", which means you can defer your loans if you attend there but can't apply for more aid

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granted, you will still accrue interest while your loans are deferred

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at least I have 😓

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 4:07 PM

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That leads me to another question then. I've read that German schools are free, but when I was looking at masters programs and saw some ranging from 6k euroes to 30k euros. So I'm a little confused on the tuition costs in germany

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:07 PM

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wtf which program said it cost 30k

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don't go there

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Schools in BaWü can charge tuition for non-EU students iirc, but the places I've looked that's around 1000-1500€ a semester of tuition

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unless another state has passed a similar law, other legit universities in Germany don't charge tuition afaik? like, I pay ~300€ a semester for my semesterticket and that's it

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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mbas tend to cost that much

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and masters programs at private institutes

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ew

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well, don't do one of those lol

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Although I could try to get my MBA here for around the same price as what I'd need to save up to get to Germany. With the thinking being I might have a better time getting to Germany with the MBA

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Do you think an MBA would significantly increase my chances of landing a German job?

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I don't think it offers much advantage over other cheaper master's degrees, but I suppose that depends on your background and your goals

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 4:20 PM

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mbas are typically aimed at experienced professionals not graduates

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah, i have 5 years banking and financial sales experience so I'd be able to get one here. I could get one in management focus or a data analytics focus

humble bough Sep 14, 2020, 5:06 PM

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ah fair enough; my sister did her MBA straight out of her bachelor's so I just assumed everything happened in that order lol

deep vessel Sep 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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it can be done but it's not considered a consecutive degree unlike a masters in finance

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Yeah a lot of MBA programs are geared toward working adults already in management positions and stuff.

lapis oasis Sep 14, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Anyone from Aachen here?

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or rwth university?

grand patio Sep 14, 2020, 6:42 PM

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It's more likely that you get a nice and quick answer if you provide your question instead.

Let's assume anyone who reads it and lives in Aachen or studies at that uni answers 'here', they still may not be able to provide an answer to your specific question, since they might have just started living / studying there or whatever. Also there might be people that won't say 'here' who could actually answer since of having lived / studied there before or maybe even heard of the exact thing you wanna know about. @lapis oasis

lapis oasis Sep 14, 2020, 6:54 PM

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@grand patio why are you being a bully, bro? I was just trying to break ice.

grand patio Sep 14, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Oh, then this is the wrong place. Try #general or #general-2. I didn't want to bully you btw, it was rather a tip, since lots of people ask broad questions and don't get answers

hallow oyster Sep 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@amber perch owning house is still not a default
Plus people don't have funds to buy houses
Here you have to have I think 10 or 20% of house value (or house and land) if you'd like normal loan interests, otherwise it will be crazy high
Plus, loans are so far made for 10 years or so, so you negotiate after that period for the rest of the loan

In short, it's not trivial to own property here

Also, not trivial to find property to buy in which you can live eg that doesn't already have tenants which have right to stay

One way is to build something
But that's not cheap business either, especially if you don't already own building land

And what you quoted, that's fine, it says abundance of expensive rentals
That's true 😂

Not many people can afford to pay 5000+ monthly to rent a house with garden in Berlin for example, so they're definitely available
Even though here's total shortage of normal priced flats

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@rotund steppe it's not impossible, you just need to prepare in advance, and also, avoid bad cities for that, like berlin, München...

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Ugh Berlin is the city I most want to move to 😭

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But I was thinking of possibly trying to move to a smaller town first for a year and then moving to Berlin. A local move would be a lot easier for apartment hunting than international

tight kelp Sep 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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especially if your endgame is berlin, a notoriously expensive city to live in

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Honestly Berlin prices don't seem to be too bad compared to where I'm at now. Assuming I make a similar income to what I make here I don't think I'd be struggling

hallow oyster Sep 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@rotund steppe I think that assumption about earnings might be slippery terrain
Research that part really in detail
Don't just convert currency

Average Berlin salary was around 42k eur bruto yearly in 2017
That's around 2200 neto monthly if you're not married, without kids and not paying church tax

There is also rule that with such amount you would not get regular flat that cost more than 700 eur warm because of their rule that rent should not be more than 1/3 of income

For such flats, there are like 50-100 applicants in first hour that flat is advertised.

Regular flat is the one which isn't furnished and is rented long term (so minimum 1-2 years, expected 5+ years)

So yeah, if you want to sleep in bed, you'll have to buy it. Furnishing flat isn't cheap either.

For furnished flats and rooms such rules usually aren't needed so people go there, if they're fast enough. But people pay between 200 and 500 eur for room in a shared flat, which isn't dirty cheap either.

So without job contract in your pocket, I wouldn't recommend coming to Berlin.
Your idea to go somewhere smaller and then move later sounds much smarter move.

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I see what you mean. If moving somewhere smaller is what it takes that's just what I'll have to do. Either that or find a job first. I'm thinking of trying to get a job at this company that is in my town now, they have a major hub in Berlin and I might possibly be able to get a job offer prior to moving by just simply asking if I can transfer

hallow oyster Sep 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@rotund steppe that sounds like a good move, definitely

rotund steppe Sep 14, 2020, 8:12 PM

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In the end I just want to move to Berlin eventually because of the music scene and I'm a musician

supple iris Sep 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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From an insider view, how do people view coronavirus restrictions in Germany?

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 1:05 AM

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is there some kind of rent price cutoff
where if it is higher than the cutoff, there would be a drastic decrease in the number of applicants

shadow ibex Sep 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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hello friends, does anyone here live in München? how are your experiences living there? is the very pricey living cost worth the quality? I'm (hopefully) enrolling in TUM, in their faculty of architecture next year and it seems like the living costs are astronomical and I'm not quite sure whether to keep TUM as my first choice or go to a cheaper city like Berlin or Stuttgard

azure tangle Sep 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I do live in Munich yes, also a student at TUM. It's a wonderful city and I don't regret going for a moment

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The housing is definitely the biggest struggle out of anything but it's not impossible

shadow ibex Sep 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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if you don't mind me asking, on average how much is the rent per month?

azure tangle Sep 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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It's tricky for me to say on average because I only ever consider the very lowest end in terms of rent

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But apartments between 400 and 600 euro a month, though limited, are available

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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This site can give you a rough guide (mainly in relation to your home city)
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living

Expatistan, cost of living comparisons

Cost of Living Comparisons, 2020 data.

Cost of Living comparisons for thousands of cities. Fully up-to-date cost of living comparisons, including prices of 52 products and services.

shadow ibex Sep 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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oh yeesh

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90% increase blobSweat

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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mmlol be glad you're not looking at sydney then

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shadow ibex Sep 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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nervous laughter

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I mean, I really don't mind if living in münchen is as good as people make it out to be

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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do note however that that doesn't account for difference in median wages

solemn bay Sep 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Cost of living in Munich (Germany) is about the same as in Melbourne (Australia)
😮

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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e.g. median wage in Jakarta is about 700 Euros a month, but over 4.6k Euros a month in munich

fleet pelican Sep 15, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Even in service jobs workjng in München will net you a cushier salary than working outside of it

dense cradle Sep 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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ich weiß nicht, wo ich will leben. Ich weiß nur, ich will nach Deutschland umziehen.

rotund steppe Sep 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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is there some kind of rent price cutoff
where if it is higher than the cutoff, there would be a drastic decrease in the number of applicants
@amber perch also very interested in this. Like, if 100 people people are applying for the 800 euro a month apartment in Berlin, how much rent would make only 15 people apply? I guess the real question here, in other words, is how much do you need to make to be pretty well off. 75k?

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 4:03 AM

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note to self: don't work in berlin

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:00 AM

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It's worth noting that the "smaller towns" around Berlin are not much better than Berlin when it comes to apartment and WG availability. Like, Potsdam is basically just as bad as Berlin if not worse because it's a smaller place, and even places well outside of Berlin like Brandenburg an der Havel have poor availability.

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the easiest way to get an apartment or WG in Berlin is through a personal connection -- I got my room in this WG before it was ever put online, for instance, because someone studying in my program mentioned looking for a flatmate

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the other way is finding someplace very temporary like a hostel or expensive month-to-month furnished place and making apartment/WG hunting your full time job until you get a place

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 7:03 AM

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what are some good ways to get good personal connections

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:05 AM

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can't really give advice on that -- my only connections were others in my (relatively small) master's program

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I think my roommate got this flat with help from his uncle back when he moved here

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:06 AM

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personal connections are mostly a matter of luck and your social circle

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:06 AM

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yeah

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:07 AM

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my advice is unless you have your heart set on berlin there are just as nice, and even far nicer cities in germany where it's not such a shitfight to find housing

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:07 AM

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I don't want to discourage other people from moving here because it's a great place to live imo, but finding housing is definitely 100% gonna be the biggest hurdle

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I mean it depends why you move here, I guess -- if you work in certain fields Berlin's the best place by far

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and I've heard it's equally a shitfight in other big cities lol but obvs I don't have that experience

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:08 AM

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you don't even have to go for a big city

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I mean, like I said, depends why you move here

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:09 AM

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if for bachelors study, unless that uni offers a very specific program hard to find elsewhere then you could go just about anywhere

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:09 AM

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for studying yeah anywhere is fine, but for work your options become a lot different

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l could probably find some jobs in my field outside of Berlin, but they'd all be in other big cities

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i assume if you are relatively well off
you could maybe offer to pay higher rent to get housing fast?

or is that frowned upon?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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and for my field in particular Berlin is by far the best place to job hunt, so it depends on individual people and their circumstances

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you can't pay a higher rent for the same apartment

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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at the very least legally impossible for the rent capped ones too

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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but if you have enough money on hand or a really good job, you will find an apartment faster by merit of having more options available

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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yup. the more you earn, the more you can afford, and the less competition there is at pricier apartments

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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you can also get more temporary housing fast by paying a hefty chunk using those furnished places

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I don't remember any in Berlin but I know others have brought them up before

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 7:13 AM

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do people normally have to buy their own kitchen?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:15 AM

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yeah, though you can narrow searches down on sites to those that come with a kitchen by checking a box that says "Einbauküche"

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and if you look for rooms in a WG they generally already have kitchens

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 7:17 AM

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yup. i think a wg is generally a good way to start out as you can sort things out before investing in a large amount of furniture and whatnot

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 7:26 AM

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WG good
ill choose that if i move to germany then

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 7:27 AM

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yeah I think most Germans my age live in WGs anyway -- its cheaper to split a larger apartment than to rent even a studio tbh

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 7:28 AM

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are people expected to stop living in WGs after a certain age?

coral lagoon Sep 15, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Hey guys so I'll be finishing my sleep technician classes by December wanted move to Germany in maybe a year after I get certified what cities would you guys recommend new comer to go to for a job like sleep study technician

glad current Sep 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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German bank accounts! Which one? Bf had sparkasse during his internship thing for putting money in and they took 15eur every month on the youth account (he didnt have a credit card) so his family is against using them. I can't get any student accounts as I'm technically not a student even though I'm studying for an exam and a certificate :s

Which is the best bank account preferably with low fees? I've seen n26 but unsure whether to trust them I dont know anyone who uses it. Thanks :)

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:38 AM

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i use n26. its super nice tbh. fits exactly what i need. Few drawbacks: 3 free cash withdrawals a month (after that you gotta pay 2 euros per withdrawal) but you could use any atm available, for no extra fee. Another possible drawback may be that its completely online, so you cant speak to someone in an office if you have a problem.

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it costs 0 to uphold or open up and you get a nice see through card (not credit)

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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i wanted to open with them initially but they wouldn't accept my id

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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besides that maybe the only annoyance is that its not an EC card

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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oh, so you can't f.e. pay with it at the supermarket?

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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they tend to have problems with some nationalities (read: Italian)

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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they tend to have problems with some nationalities (read: Italian)
exactly... :>

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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nope, not at your local small turkish store

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but that is by far the biggest drawback

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i just take out 100 euros in cash and keep them on me for these groceries

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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you mean even if they have a card reader you can't pay there?

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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they mostly have ec card readers

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the mastercard you get from N26 dont work there

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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oh so theirs counts as a credit card or something

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hm

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yeah that'd be a bummer

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there are many online banks though, maybe a different one would not have that issue

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 10:49 AM

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btw anyone have experience with Schlafbeere (Ashwagandha) supplements?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 10:56 AM

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I have both N26 and Sparkasse and can confirm that the N26 card and interface is a lot more convenient and easy-to-use (ESPECIALLY as someone whose german ain't great) compared to German banks. That said, there are def some places that only take EC card and then you're outta luck with N26, but if you withdraw enough cash with your free withdrawals you can always fall back on that -- in Berlin at least, I feel like most places take either only cash (not even EC) or are fine with debit cards.

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I think other online banks would probably be just as good as N26 though, it's just the one I'd heard of when I wanted a free debit card lol

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so feel free to shop around

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 11:01 AM

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i wonder if many of the the negative comments on N26 are exaggerated
e.g. not being able to withdraw money due to random reasons

or are they mostly true

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 11:01 AM

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i honestly havent had any trouble with them regarding money withdrawals

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 11:05 AM

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nice

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also i wanted to ask
is smoking common in germany?

i saw people writing that it's common
i assume it has become less common now

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 11:10 AM

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it's common enough that you'll encounter at least a few smokers every time you go out

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it's weird and frankly ridiculous how much freedom of advertising tobacco companies have here, it was a minor shock to me when immigrated

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having lived through the 90's i cannot say there are "a lot" of smokers but smoking is definitely still a thing here, and many smokers are young people

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and nothing's gonna change unless politics gives a kick in the butt to tobacco lobbysts, which i don't see happening any time soon :D

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 11:27 AM

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i see

glad current Sep 15, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Hmm could I use my card to pay at like db ticket office where u get monthly tickets etc

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They didnt accept my Visa card

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And I've heard like n26 can lock your account if you have too many incoming money like from PayPal or idk

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Because it raises suspicion

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I've heard negative anecdotes about n26 but I personally have only had positive experiences

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also tbh I think I'd call Germany a lot of smokers but I was also a baby in the 90s so it's all about perspective ig

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it's a lot compared to the US nowadays and not a lot compared to France, in my experience

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 12:16 PM

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france is kinda stereotypically a smokers country though :D

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Hmm could I use my card to pay at like db ticket office where u get monthly tickets etc
@glad current you could buy those online and then you'd be able to pay with any credit card, including n26. Maybe even paypal

glad current Sep 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Yeah but its 5.60euro delivery fee

tight kelp Sep 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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? wherever you register a monthly ticket they'll always going to send it by post

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and it's weird that you'd be the one to pay for it

glad current Sep 15, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Huh I get it from the office like a person who prints them out before u enter station

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Maybe it's common here since it's a small town

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I think the subscription tickets are cost free from delivery

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But idk how they work

grand patio Sep 15, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Pls don't post affiliate links here, @tropic edge

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Lol that's new. Pretty sure it happened here before and no one batted an eye.

grand patio Sep 15, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Well, it's possible that we don't see every single message, but that doesn't mean that we approve of them

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:23 PM

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That's cool. Thanks for the heads up.

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Not like the link would hurt anyone but I understand.

grand patio Sep 15, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Well, it's pretty much the same as advertising. Everyone could just put stuff like that here and we don't really wanna offer a platform for anyone making money in any way.

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:26 PM

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So if I have a referral link to a free German course, I should just keep that to myself.

grand patio Sep 15, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Well, yeah, just share the free course then

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:29 PM

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But that wouldn't be advertising a free course?

solemn bay Sep 15, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Sharing learning materials is fine as long as it doesn't go against the general content rules like ToS, etc.

rotund steppe Sep 15, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I mean it depends why you move here, I guess -- if you work in certain fields Berlin's the best place by far
@humble bough I'm just curious which fields you think are best?

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:32 PM

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But given the topic of this chat, I don't see the link I posted being viewed as advertising. Given it's an affiliate link to a banking company someone had mentioned.

solemn bay Sep 15, 2020, 1:34 PM

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No affiliate links please. Sharing a link to the bank's website as a response to a question about banks is fine, but no affiliate links.

tropic edge Sep 15, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Okay, understood. Thank you for making it clear.

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 1:38 PM

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people have definitely given out n26 affiliate stuff in the past because I know I got one here

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I've given one out here in the past as well and there was no response then either (though idr if it was a link or just a code)

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also @rotund steppe I work in tech/NLP and there are simply a lot more opportunities in Berlin than elsewhere in germany (or tbh even many other places in europe, depending what you're comparing with). depends on the specific field, though, and there are certainly still jobs in my field elsewhere in germany as well.

rotund steppe Sep 15, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Do you know much about business or data analytics? I'm thinking about possibly switching to that field. From what I have read it seems to be in demand everywhere, I would assume Berlin or Germany in general would be the same

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I don't know much about fields I'm not familiar with, unfortunately

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maybe the affiliate link stuff was in PMs last time now that I think of it

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 3:01 PM

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data analytics is growing rapidly at the moment. there are plenty of opportunities in any medium to large city

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business may be a bit harder as it's a bit of a default degree that people study when they don't know what else to do so there are a lot of locals who study it

rotund steppe Sep 15, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I found out my school offers an MBA with a data analytics focus, so im thinking of doing that instead of a management focus and try to specialize in that area

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:14 PM

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also @rotund steppe I work in tech/NLP and there are simply a lot more opportunities in Berlin than elsewhere in germany (or tbh even many other places in europe, depending what you're comparing with). depends on the specific field, though, and there are certainly still jobs in my field elsewhere in germany as well.
@humble bough Hey, I am a student who did his bachelors in CS with an NLP Thesis. I am looking for german universities to apply for which are good in data science / ML NLP. I also dont have any concrete idea about software dev or research jpbs in germany. Do you have recommendations about unis, job finding, cities etc? Many many thanks!

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I am non-EU

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I'm at uni potsdam myself doing cognitive systems -- there's a data science master's here too, though I'm not sure precisely how they differ beyond us needing more ling

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osnabrück has a good program too, they were my second choice, they might be a bit more on the cognitive science end if I remember though

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I also did publish a paper on sentence embeddings, have 326 in gre, and 3.52 GPA

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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GRE doesn't matter for germany unis afaik

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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accepted* under apeasement of reviewer 2 -_-

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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lol most of the people who apply to my master's, at least, haven't published anything lol so don't stress

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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lol most of the people who apply to my master's, at least, haven't published anything lol so don't stress
@humble bough nani

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damn i was so stressed

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:17 PM

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it might be an expectation later on but not getting into a master's

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:18 PM

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GRE doesn't matter for germany unis afaik
@humble bough Tu berlin, TUM and some have GRE min score req on their websites

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 3:18 PM

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never heard of requiring undergrads to have publications

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:18 PM

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☹️

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never heard of requiring undergrads to have publications
@amber perch that good Ig

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GRE doesn't matter for germany unis afaik
@humble bough nice i guess

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I don't know what to tell you man, the unis I applied to didn't even accept GRE scores

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:19 PM

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hows TUM

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any idea

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I don't know much about TUM but I've heard it's decent

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:19 PM

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or uni potsdam ?

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I'm at uni potsdam myself doing cognitive systems -- there's a data science master's here too, though I'm not sure precisely how they differ beyond us needing more ling
@humble bough *

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:20 PM

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TUM is a good uni

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TUB is a good uni

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I like the program at uni potsdam, it's a bit disorganized and will definitely take longer than the regelstudienzeit (I'm making good progress and I'll still take one extra semester and most people take far more) but it's got a lot of good hands-on opportunities

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I like the program at uni potsdam, it's a bit disorganized and will definitely take longer than the regelstudienzeit (I'm making good progress and I'll still take one extra semester and most people take far more) but it's got a lot of good hands-on opportunities
@humble bough you are talking about masters right?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:21 PM

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yeah

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:22 PM

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i thought you have to complete in 2 years

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:22 PM

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This one concept in Germany that I don't understand at all is the Regelstudienzeit. They make it so hard to finish a degree in the regelstudienzeit

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:22 PM

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you don't have to complete within the regelstudienzeit, though you do have to complete within double the regelstudienzeit

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at least at uni potsdam, idk if that's universal

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Ye but there is literally no point of it

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I think the regelstudienzeit matters for... Bafög maybe? idk

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Just makes you feel bad

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hey

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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is it ok if i add you guys as friends? I dont wanna blow the only chance i have to leave the hellhole i am in so i might dm you some time later

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I am A2 btw 😄

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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My flatmate studies Elektrotechnik at the RWTH University and she has a DAAD Scholarship so she has to finish it within the studienregelzeit but she basically has 0 breaks between sems and she always has to write 6-8 exams

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hey

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what a fucking pain

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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My roommate studies Elektrotechnik at the RWTH University and she has a DAAD Scholarship so she has to finish it within the studienregelzeit but she basically has 0 breaks between sems and she always has to write 6-8 exams
@odd bison big oof

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is it so hard to complete masters in 2 years?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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DAAD will give you an extra semester of funding if you can demonstrate you'll probably graduate in 6-months or less extra than the regelstudienzeit

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Depends on the uni and the faculty I think

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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might depend on the program, my program only one person has done it

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:26 PM

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might depend on the program, my program only one person has done it
@humble bough woah

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I'd say 90% of people who party every weekend would need at least 2 extra sems

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hey

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/smort-smart-peralta-gif-5914562

Tenor

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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It's become so unbearable to wathc

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the last season was awful

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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yeah

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there only some limit to which you can streach a series

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stretch

odd bison Sep 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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the first three seasons were amazing

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true

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I'm at uni potsdam myself doing cognitive systems -- there's a data science master's here too, though I'm not sure precisely how they differ beyond us needing more ling
@humble bough so what do you study exactly in cognitive science

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:29 PM

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cognitive systems is very AI-focused, it's a crossroads between computational linguistics and machine learning

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:30 PM

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that sounds like nlp with extra steps

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so did you get any internship related to that ?

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I worked as a research assistant within my uni and I'm currently applying to internships

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it is basically nlp with extra steps lol but you don't have to do exclusively nlp, you can do non-nlp machine learning as well

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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yeah - n o i saw linguistics so i thought nlp

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like you would use transformers or something

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I worked as a research assistant within my uni and I'm currently applying to internships
@humble bough all the best :))

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:34 PM

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it's very cross-disciplinary -- we've got a lot of good NLP people but you don't have to exclusively do NLP

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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ach so

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okay

amber perch Sep 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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seems like computer stuff is very popular for people who move to Germany

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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and machinenbau

seems like computer stuff is very popular for people who move to Germany
@amber perch and machinenbau

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it's very cross-disciplinary -- we've got a lot of good NLP people but you don't have to exclusively do NLP
@humble bough wait so when you code in vscode it shows as playing a game in discord ??

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thats smart

humble bough Sep 15, 2020, 3:36 PM

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lol there's an extension for it lol

median haven Sep 15, 2020, 3:37 PM

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ahaha

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anyways

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tschuss leute

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@humble bough @odd bison vielen dank fur ihre hilfe , bis bald!

tame forum Sep 15, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@tropic edge jus dm the links, thats what i did before i think. Or someone did to me. I think it was u only lol. Yah basically jus dm the affiliate links

frigid storm Sep 15, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Um die Goethe Institut Prüfung zu machen, muss man einen Kurs belegen? Ich fülle gerade das Anmeldungsformular aus und gibt's keine self-study Bildungsoption

deep vessel Sep 15, 2020, 4:38 PM

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ne. man braucht keinen Kurs

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überprüfe aber dass das formular für die prüfung ist, und nicht einer ihre Kurse

frigid storm Sep 15, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Dann welches Zertifikat kann man ohne einen Kurs zu belegen bekommen?

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überprüfe aber dass das formular für die prüfung ist, und nicht einer ihre Kurse
Es ist zweifellos das Prüfungsformular

tame forum Sep 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Sie haben zwei Prüfungssessions. Eins ist nämlich für die Göethe Studenten, und eins für die Außenprüfungsnehmern

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Bestätig mal, ob das Formulas dass du gerade ausfüllst fürs Letztere ist.

frigid storm Sep 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Hab verstanden, werde es probieren

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Danke

exotic barn Sep 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Is anyone here studying at Leibniz Hannover or UULM? Im looking into their maths/finance master's, and wondering if anyone could share their experiences of the campuses? :)

dry ravine Sep 15, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Where does a non EU foreigner go to for the Anmeldung

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Is it the Rathaus, Ausländerbehörde

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Kinda baffled about it

humble bough Sep 16, 2020, 2:36 AM

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You go the same place as anyone else for the Anmeldung -- here it's your local Bürgeramt but it might differ for different areas idk. The Ausländerbehörde is for your residence permit/visa.

tame forum Sep 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I am an international student in germany and paying 105 Euros per month to TK. I am not exactly sure what is the difference between eigenemitgliedschaft and Privatversichert

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i am leaning towards choosing eigene mitgliedchaft since TK isnt a private insurance, what do you guys think?

tropic edge Sep 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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yup if you were privaytely insured you'd be paying a lot more than that. Its eigene Mitgliedschaft

tame forum Sep 16, 2020, 3:47 PM

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thankss

dry ravine Sep 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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well if i have a visa already, i dont need to visit the Ausländerbehörde, right @humble bough ?

humble bough Sep 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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if you've already got an Aufenthaltstitel you're probably fine until you need to renew it or change what type you have

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if you just need an Anmeldung, that's not done through the Ausländerbehörde afaik (since it's not unique to Ausländer, after all)

bronze basin Sep 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Bürgeramt

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https://behoerdenfinder.de/opencms/searchjs.do

glad current Sep 17, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Worth opening an n26 account then?

somber crown Sep 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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It's really useful to be able to withdraw money from any ATM a few times a month, but some people had problems with their account getting blocked for no reason, so it's better to have another account as a backup

glad current Sep 17, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Yeah I have a UK bank account I'll transfer money over when I need it maybe

glad current Sep 17, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Also what's a good site to look for apartments in a town? When I google it gives me like holiday homes >.> when I search apartments for rent in ____

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Theres a sore called rent berry but it doesnt work for me lol

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A site sorry

bronze basin Sep 17, 2020, 12:16 PM

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https://www.meinestadt.de
https://www.immowelt.de/suche/wohnungen
https://www.immobilien.de
https://www.wg-gesucht.de

meinestadt.de - Das Portal für alle Städte Deutschlands

meinestadt.de ist das Portal für alle Städte Deutschlands. Die lokale Suche mit Jobs, Branchenadressen, Websites, Telefonnummern, Veranstaltungen, Stadtplänen und vielen anderen Informationen sorgt für mehr Durchblick in jeder der 12.241 deutschen Städte.

Immobilien Wohnungen und Häuser bei immobilien.de

Immobilien, Wohnungen, Häuser schnell suchen und finden.
Wohnungen und Häuser mieten, kaufen oder anbieten. Immobilienanzeige aufgeben.

WG-Gesucht.de

WG Zimmer Wohnungen Wohnungssuche WG Suche WG Wohnung vermieten WG ...

WG-Gesucht. Europas größtes Portal für WG-Zimmer und provisionsfreie Wohnungen. Kostenlos. 8 Millionen Nutzer und mehr als 200.000 Anzeigen pro Monat.

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https://www.immonet.de/wohnung-suchen.html

Wohnungssuche bei Immonet.de

Wohnungssuche - Sie finden hier Topaktuelle Wohnungen zur Miete oder zum Kauf.

glad current Sep 17, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Tyty

deep vessel Sep 17, 2020, 12:28 PM

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facebook also has groups for wgs

deep vessel Sep 17, 2020, 1:30 PM

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plenty do

amber perch Sep 17, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I guess to find and contact strangers all around the world
Facebook is still useful

tame forum Sep 17, 2020, 4:22 PM

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watch out for clip boards/notice boards in supermarkets.

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and newspapers

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apparantly i have heard old ppl dgaf abt the internet and just go old school.

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and also make lots of friends so if they know something abt any wg going empty they will tell u

bronze basin Sep 17, 2020, 7:01 PM

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recently bought a CD case in my neighborhood from an ad on facebook. Also didn't think I would ever find it actually useful again. XD

Oh yeah not sure if this helps you, but Germans also make heavy use of the website: ebay Kleinanzeigen https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/ as classified ads, people search and sell everything there, even appartments, so might also be worth taking a look

glad current Sep 17, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Ahh yeah boyfriend sold his cpu on that

bronze basin Sep 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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remember the Warntag??

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https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2020/09/bundesamtes-fuer-bevoelkerungsschutz-christoph-unger-abgesetzt.html

Präsident des Bundesamtes für Bevölkerungsschutz wird abgelöst

Nach dem Fehlschlag beim bundesweiten Warntag muss nun nach rbb-Informationen der Präsident des Bundesamtes für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe, Christoph Unger, gehen. Bei dem Testlauf hatte es zahlreiche technische Probleme gegeben.

glad current Sep 18, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Huu because there was issues with it all or

hallow oyster Sep 18, 2020, 10:22 AM

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In Berlin it didn't work at all 😂 nothing, no sirens, no apps 😂

From this text I gather some other areas also had failures, but I'm not sure which

humble bough Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

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lmao yeah I didnt get anything on Warntag

glad current Sep 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Same in celle

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But I heard the fire siren the week before lol

hidden briar Sep 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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At least some sirens worked in Cologne

tight kelp Sep 18, 2020, 1:30 PM

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👀 what is warntag

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sounds like something i should know about

hidden briar Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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countrywide siren and other emergency broadcasting (loudspeaker, warning apps...) test

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warnings via app and many sirens didn't work

tight kelp Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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was i supposed to notice it if i live in the city? 🤔

hidden briar Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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yes

tight kelp Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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ok i didn't

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last question, is it every year on the 10.9. (at least in nrw, dunno if it's nation-wide) or does it vary?

hidden briar Sep 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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that guy was replaced because you (and many others) didn't notice

tight kelp Sep 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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i should mark it on the calendar before i get a panic attack a year from now

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that guy was replaced because you (and many others) didn't notice
yeah i gathered

hidden briar Sep 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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in most villages the sirens are tested monthly (where I grew up first Sunday of the month, 12:00)

steel mauve Sep 18, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Sind unbezahlte Praktika legal in der Schweiz?

tame forum Sep 18, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Yah the sirens were fun. Feel sorry for the lad tho

foggy prism Sep 18, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Sind unbezahlte Praktika legal in der Schweiz?
sieht so aus: https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassensturz-espresso/ihre-rechte-als-praktikantin-als-praktikant

Schweizer Radio und Fernsehen (SRF)

Arbeitsrecht - Ihre Rechte als Praktikantin, als Praktikant

Praktikanten sind keine billigen Arbeitskräfte. Sie haben die gleichen Rechte, wie alle Angestellten.

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sie müssen dir nur eine Unfallversicherung zahlen

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es gibt in der Schweiz eh recht wenig Regulationen, was Löhne angeht

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z.B. kein Mindestlohn

steel mauve Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Danke dir!
Es gibt eine Praktikumanstelle, die perfekt zu meinen Profil passt, aber schreibt man nur über viele Vorteile und nix über die Belohnung.

graceful pier Sep 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

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So I’m been considering moving to Germany with my boyfriend soon. We intend to learn German but are worried about being sort of socially isolated until we have a good feel for the language. How much of a problem do you see this being?

solemn bay Sep 20, 2020, 1:13 PM

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It kinda depends on a few factors. Like if you're someone who has trouble making friends normally, then a language barrier is going to make it harder, but if you're someone who is very social and makes friends easily, you probably won't find it much of a hurdle to get around it, especially since many people in Germany can speak English. But in terms of everyday stuff, you should be fine.

Of course it also depends on where in Germany you move to and so on.

amber perch Sep 20, 2020, 1:17 PM

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is a WG a good idea if you wanna make friends

tame forum Sep 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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there was a person here earlier who had a gf who only spoke german (and he didnt) and thats how he learnt german. @graceful pier

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so yah ppl are too random/ to different from each other. some wouldnt give a care and some would care what language u speak.

glad current Sep 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Ye I'm learning German living here with my German boyfriend:D

mint needle Sep 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Ich würde gerne in Deutschland leben und gut Deutsch sprechen. Es wäre gut, mit anderen zusammenzuleben.

ocean basalt Sep 20, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Do you guys know whether the EU's (just an answer about Germany is enough) border restrictions (rona stuff) for certain countries include entering as a worker? I know touristic travels are rightfully off the table but I couldn't find much info about such exception for work visa

timid arrow Sep 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/working-schengen-visa/

SchengenVisaInfo.com

Working in Europe - How to get an EU Visa / Work Permit

Who can work in Europe? Anyone who meets the criteria and requirements set by the European countries can work in Europe. Most European states have their programs, through which they tend to lure foreign professionals and fill job shortages in different fields in the country. H...

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thank god we have Schengen

ocean basalt Sep 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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sure but that doesn't answer my question, there are some countries that cannot enter EU rn because of their current situation. What I'm wondering is does that include employment via a work visa (from outside EU)

timid arrow Sep 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I'm not sure about that, sorry

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maybe somebody else knows

ocean basalt Sep 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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thanks anyways bud. for others, I found some info on who can enter during the quarantine here: https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/-/2375948 under Processing of visa applications

apparently the application gets exempted from restrictions under some situations

Information on visa applications, entry to Germany and quarantine r...

Here you can find information on visa applications, visa renewal, entry to Germany and quarantine regulations.

silent pilot Sep 21, 2020, 11:48 AM

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@main pollen

exotic barn Sep 21, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@ocean basalt, when I moved to Germany in August from the US, I was told that only blue-card eligible workers or researchers (and maybe some other categories of essential workers) were exempted. That may have changed since then.

ocean basalt Sep 21, 2020, 1:21 PM

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@exotic barn yeah in the article it says only the sectors which Germany is in need of, for example IT

exotic barn Sep 21, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Hätte jemand hier Ratschläge bzgl. der Wahl zwischen München und Berlin als Studienort? Ich nehme dieses Semester mein Studium auf und wurde an Universitäten in den beiden Städten zugelassen. Muss gleich eine Entscheidung treffen

cold aspen Sep 21, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Hör auf dein Herz!

Aber wenn du es genau haben willst, hier:
https://versus.com/de/berlin-vs-münchen

VERSUS

Berlin vs München: Was ist der Unterschied?

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen München und Berlin? Finde heraus welches besser ist und dessen gesamt Leistung in der Stadt-Bestenliste.

exotic barn Sep 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@cold aspen sehr hilfreiche website danke!

mild quiver Sep 21, 2020, 9:24 PM

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anyone aware of internet services in germany that aren't a mandatory 24 month contract with 2-3 months of cancellation notice required? my contract renews in january but it's too expensive and i leave soon so i'm cancelling it but i still want internet. but i'll probably only be around like 2-4 months so i need something shorter

tame forum Sep 21, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Pro tip: go over to ur neighbour with chocolates and ask him for his wifi for 2 months

mild quiver Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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using a wifi extender from my close friend/upstairs neighbour was plan #2

ocean basalt Sep 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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if you're gonna use it for constantly up internet activities like online games I wouldn't advise the extender

tight kelp Sep 22, 2020, 9:30 AM

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ask your current provider if they can transfer location for the same contract, in which case you'd keep the same at your new place

tropic edge Sep 22, 2020, 12:24 PM

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How does a Wohnungsbaugenossenschaft work? I'm not sure i understand the concept very well

exotic barn Sep 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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hello everyone

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does anyone have good writing exemples

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for the goethe b1 test

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?

copper geyser Sep 22, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Hi, anyone know if Sparkasse in Aachen offers a blocked account?

exotic barn Sep 22, 2020, 8:44 PM

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@exotic barn theyre on the goethe website right?

fair talon Sep 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Q: So I'm having my parents provide a letter + bank statements/proof of employment to help me get a Residence permit renewel, and I want the title at the top in German so its obvious to the Foreigners Office peeps what the letter is. Does "Verpflichtungserklärung für Finanzierungsnachweis" work? I'm just mashing legal terms together, so idk if it still works like that

tight sky Sep 23, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Also ich bin aus Albanien und ich lerne in der deutsche Projekt seit 5 Jahren. Nächstes Jahr schreibe ich das DSD 2 C1 Prüfung und mein Ziel ist in Deutschland studieren. Ich denke dass ich etwas das mit Wirtschaft Finanz oder Unternehmensführung zu tun hat. Ich habe kein Idee wie hart es in der Goethe Universität in Frankfurt zu akzeptieren ist. Ich würde es schätzen ob jemand mir einige Ratschläge geben würde. Viel Dank!

pallid oar Sep 23, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Hello Guys, I am planning on studying Studienkolleg, can anyone give me some info about the Aufnahmeprüfung or did anyone already do the exam/ studienkolleg that I can talk to? Thank you

fiery edge Sep 24, 2020, 11:21 AM

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do i need to be under quarantine for moving from one bundesland to another?

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 11:35 AM

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no

fleet pelican Sep 24, 2020, 11:51 AM

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You do for bayern even without the virus

willow saffron Sep 24, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Hello, I am from India and I want to study Physics in Germany as a Bachelor, what German proficiency should I need for that? What are the minimum requirements?

amber perch Sep 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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iirc the standard is commonly C1 german for bachelors

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most

steel mauve Sep 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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At least B2, most likely C1

amber perch Sep 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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English bachelors are pretty rare and limited

olive summit Sep 24, 2020, 5:04 PM

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There's more than you'd think

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 6:12 PM

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hmm speaking about situation, if i move in to German in this Dezember, how can i do things like:
Open bank account
Find some flat or check flat i found on net
find place to stay before getting flat?

afaik there is 14 day quarantine but...

hidden briar Sep 24, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@olive summit 98% of bachelors are in German, most of the 2% in English are on expensive private universities of dubious quality

olive summit Sep 24, 2020, 7:31 PM

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If you check the daad website theres over 50 English bachelor programs, most at public unis

humble bough Sep 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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compared to the number of university programs in Germany, that's a quite small number

olive summit Sep 24, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Still a decent selection imo, depending on what field you're interested in

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Open bank account
use an online bank, check online for what local banks offer, or go in person and ask.
Find some flat or check flat i found on net
there are many websites for that. You're probably going to have an easier time (and less expenses) with a WG. A flat is a bit overkill if you're alone, and definitely more effortful to get either way
find place to stay before getting flat?
airbnb is what i went with initially. If you look for those offering long-time accommodation you might actually find a flat you can stay long term—i had the luck of finding one of those. Probably more expensive than WGs but certainly less expensive than flats found through more traditional venues
@high lodge

glad current Sep 24, 2020, 9:07 PM

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N26 Id verification, what's it like I know it's a video call but what happens in it if anyone has an account with them, thanks

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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they ask you to show your face clearly and then your ID

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:18 PM

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@tight kelp what is airbnb?

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:18 PM

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website to book accommodation

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technically for vacation but it works for other stuff too

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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hmm but dont you like...were scared of scam or smth? Like a appartment that has a lots of bugs, is struggling or should be renewed?

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@tight kelp

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but yea prizes are... lol like whole quarantine time (14 days) could cost like month rent or half of it here lmao

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so it is viable to make such thing...

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but @tight kelp how much ahead i should book these kind of things?

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@tight kelp uh, „Wohnung“ heißt doch auch auf Englisch „flat“. Wie meinst du?

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Es heißt natürlich außerdem Apartment

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Nathaniel, warum schreiben Sie nur im Deutsch?

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Haben Sie im English geschrieben?

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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auf* Deutsch/Englisch

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Weil ich keine Lust drauf habe, auf Englisch zu schreiben 🤷‍♂️

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:38 PM

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i really don't understand what you're referencing, Nate

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:39 PM

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ah well that makes sense

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:40 PM

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hmm but dont you like...were scared of scam or smth? Like a appartment that has a lots of bugs, is struggling or should be renewed?
@high lodge you can book a place for a short time if you're afraid of that, and then book a different one or prolong your stay in the current one in the meantime

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:40 PM

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hmm

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but in quarantine you are not supposed to be moving much right? because well i am in no doubt i gonna be in that 14 days when i want to try moving in December or January

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i've never moved countries during a global pandemic, sorry

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:43 PM

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me neither

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but hard times forces hard choices

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:44 PM

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you‘re probably going to have an easier time (and less expenses) with a WG. A flat is a bit overkill if you’re alone...
Als wäre eine Wohnung nicht auf Englisch „a flat“ @tight kelp

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Deswegen hab ich gefragt, wie meinst du

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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i still don't get what you mean. That sentence has nothing to do with terminology, the term i use for wohnung in english is flat

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Huh

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Egal

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eine WG hast du gesagt wäre besser und günstiger oder? Dann hast du aber gesagt, „a flat“ sei übertrieben.

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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flats are expensive and troublesome to get especially if you're not quite fluent in german yet and you're doing it alone. And if you're alone, in most cases you can cope quite well with a WG

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Ich hab in ner WG gewohnt und das hat sich trotzdem „WG“ genannt obwohl ich mit 3 anderen Personen gewohnt habe.

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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by flat, of course, i meant renting a whole flat for yourself. A WG is still a flat but it's a very different accommodation

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in the bit you quoted i was comparing WG vs. flat. I don't get what's unclear 🤔

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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is WG something like 3 individual flats/appartments but with connected front doors?

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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no it's one (usually large) flat shared with other people

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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well

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and that is...a problem

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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typically everyone has a private room each plus some shared spaces and services

high lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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i am not a person that can live with that sadly

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Weil eine WG auf Englisch flat bedeutet. Eins unterscheidet sich nicht von dem anderen

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Meiner Erfahrung nach

tight kelp Sep 24, 2020, 9:51 PM

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hä? 🇬🇧 Flat = 🇺🇸 apartment. Es impliziert keine Art von Wohngemeinschaft weder seinen Gegenteil

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WG = shared flat, if anything

dry arch Sep 24, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ich finde das Wort „flat“ sowieso etwas seltsam, ist das nicht eher ein Begriff aus dem Britischen

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Ah dachte ich mir

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Ach so weißt du was berz....ich glaube ich habe Wohnung mit Wohngemeinschaft verwechselt... acid_do_mathematics

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Mein Fehler!

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Weil beide ein G drin haben mmlol

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Ja ok ich bin ein Depp

gilded ether Sep 25, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Opinions on Mezzo Mix?
I personally love the stuff, but I can only get ahold of it when it's in stock at my local World Market

fleet pelican Sep 25, 2020, 4:33 AM

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A crime against god

olive summit Sep 25, 2020, 7:52 AM

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never could really tell the difference between Mezzo Mix and Schwip Schwap

glad current Sep 25, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Mezzo mix is more flavorful than schwip Imo

olive summit Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

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I just get whatevers cheaper

tame forum Sep 25, 2020, 9:07 AM

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I didn't even know something known as "schwip" existed

humble bough Sep 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I don't really like the taste of these "cola + citrus" sodas myself, so I tend to avoid them

jade warren Sep 25, 2020, 10:53 AM

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OG spezi for life

tame forum Sep 25, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Water masterrace

hidden briar Sep 25, 2020, 12:50 PM

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@tame forum Mezzo Mix is from Coca Cola, Schwip Schwap is from Pepsi (and there are other ones from other brands)

tight kelp Sep 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

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never seen a schwip schwap

deep vessel Sep 25, 2020, 1:28 PM

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neither have i tbh

foggy prism Sep 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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at those drink dispensers they sometimes have in cheap restaurants I often mix spezi but I don't think I've ever bought one deliberately

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I'm a bit picky cause I don't actually like the taste of coke on its own

exotic gorge Sep 25, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I miss European Fanta. American Fanta just tastes sad and artificial to me :/ Mezzo Mix is okay.

tropic edge Sep 25, 2020, 6:03 PM

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green apple fanta is superior

sudden moat Sep 25, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Better than American But Europan is better

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Weiß jemand ob man als Ausländer der Bundeswehr beitreten kann?

olive summit Sep 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I don't think so, you would have to give up your native citizenship making you stateless

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Ich hätte damit eigentlich kein Problem

exotic barn Sep 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Weiß jemand ob man als Ausländer der Bundeswehr beitreten kann?
@dry arch UNSERER BILLIGTRUPPE

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Die würden selbst mich Lauch aufnehmen so verzweifelt sind die

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Ich bin aber kein Lauch

exotic barn Sep 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Ich bin aber kein Lauch
@dry arch dann nehmen die dich locker

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Ich hätte damit eigentlich kein Problem
@dry arch ( kein bock mehr auf Amerika wa?)

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 8:06 PM

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genau. @exotic barn

exotic barn Sep 25, 2020, 8:07 PM

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genau. @exotic barn
@dry arch ( okay wenn man sich das land mal genauer ansieht vergeht einem schnell der Appetit)

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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sprichst du von Deutschland...?

exotic barn Sep 25, 2020, 8:18 PM

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sprichst du von Deutschland...?
@dry arch ( bist du blöd, natürlich nicht)

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 8:20 PM

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"das Land" hätte sich auch auf Deutschland beziehen können

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@exotic barn

exotic barn Sep 25, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@dry arch es war auf die usa bezogen

dry arch Sep 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

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k

dry ravine Sep 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Zusammen was ist der Unterschied zwischen Sofortüberweisung und paydirekt

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What's the difference between pay direkt and Sofortüberweisung

hallow oyster Sep 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Paydirekt is afaik a service like paypal, so, you connect it with you r bank, have username / password while to use sofort you basically give your bank username and password to that service, they login and make a transfer, which you approve, and that's it
Basically legal man in the middle attack 😂

olive summit Sep 26, 2020, 5:56 AM

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recieved my new Aufenthaltstitel in the mail and the letter says to send my old one to the Ausländerbehörde. But it's a sticker in my passport so how would I do that

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 6:00 AM

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unfortunately becoming stateless has a lot of ramifications for trying to prove your identity. also it costs about 3 grand to renounce your US citizenship @dry arch

dry arch Sep 26, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Mir ist der Geldstrafe eigentlich schon bewusst, und das bezahle ich letztendlich doch gerne.

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@deep vessel

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Mainly though the identity and rights part is the hard part as your eligibility for visas is often affected by your nationality

dry arch Sep 26, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Ich wollte sowieso nur sehen, ob das eventuell funktioniert, also der Bundeswehr als Ausländer beizutreten.

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Ich will es nicht unbedingt ausführen

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Ich war meistens neugierig was das angeht :))

tame forum Sep 26, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Pro tip, join US army and get stationed in germany.

bronze basin Sep 26, 2020, 10:02 AM

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by the way In Wiborg v. U.S. , 163 U.S. 632 (1896), the Supreme Court endorsed a lower court ruling that it was not a crime under U.S. law for an individual to go abroad for the purpose of enlisting in a foreign army

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also HOLY SHIT 3k thats a lot of money what the

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that is messed up
anyway
Section 349(a)(3) provides for loss of U.S. nationality if a U.S national voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. nationality enters or serves in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the United States

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basically, go ahead and join the Bundeswehr. Wir sind ja Freunde

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und kämpfen nicht gegen einander

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also alles easy

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source: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Loss-US-Nationality-and-Foreign-Military-Service.html

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 10:29 AM

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but that's in terms of the US. but will the german military let citizens of other countries join?

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wikipedia is a far from comprehensive source but at the very least germany isn't listed here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_militaries_that_recruit_foreigners#C

List of militaries that recruit foreigners

This is a list of militaries that recruit foreign applicants. This includes any individuals who are aliens of the polity whose armed forces they are being recruited to join by professional recruiters. The foreigners need not be legal residents of that nation, but may gain lega...

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and that's a matter of actually being a citizen of that country, which statelessness wouldn't solve

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i've found news articles from 2018 and 2019 saying german government was considering changing the law to allow non-citizens to enlist, but no articles about them actually going through with it

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and even then the news article saying they're considering it had it limited to EU nations only

exotic barn Sep 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

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basically, go ahead and join the Bundeswehr. Wir sind ja Freunde
@bronze basin muss ich ihn dann mit "Soldat" Ansprechen

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Can you really renounce some citizenship without having a certificate that you'll get another one?

Croatia definitely won't let you go if you don't show either proof of having another one or that you will get another one if you renounce croatian one. There's some part which says that if you didn't get new one in one year, or three year, renouncing could be void (I guess per your own request, that part I didn't catch on first read)

So basically only if you have a paperwork for new one, renounce croatian one and don't get new one and don't ask to get croatian one you can end without one.
But you can't even start the process if you don't have such papers from another country (plus having taxes and other obligations sorted out).

I mean, you cannot come and say 'remove me'.
Can you do that in USA or anywhere else?

Also, it costs around 400 usd.

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 1:55 PM

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depends on the country

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I've just read wiki about it
It seems that in USA you really have right to renounce citizenship even if you don't have another one lined up

Whoa

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:10 PM

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uhm how much i lose if i do not use Xing premium membership?

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Don't know what xing offers, I've tested LinkedIn premium and concluded that at least for berlin, is useless

So they boost about knowing stats about who else applied and how you score among other candidates

Which sounds potentially interesting until you see that there's bunch of people applying from bangalore, and that you have better skills than 90% others who applied, which sounds nice until you see that most common skills are excel and word 😂

Also, companies delete and make new same ads every few days effectively making those stats useless

Easy apply won't give whole profile, so it's actually recommended not to use it if you want to draw attention

And information about company growth is based on employees on linkedin, assuming that everyone who has that company name is actually working at that company (found a bunch of fake accounts in one case)

So, yeah, you'll get some 'you're among top 10%' and shiny graphs but it doesn't bring anything really useful

So basically only those inmails is really useful if you're into directly contacting someone

So if xing has something similar, I wouldn't expect more usefulness from it either

If this helps anything

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:25 PM

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actuallz

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there is one thing that xing is bad

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it hides job offer salary

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behind premium

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which IMAO is something important

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:25 PM

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a lot of companies don't tell you the salary in general anyway

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they just state 'market rate' or 'competitive'

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:26 PM

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well in Poland it is very common to see salary and we are considered as not a great market lol

tight kelp Sep 26, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Can you really renounce some citizenship without having a certificate that you'll get another one?
yes. Statelessness is a thing

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:27 PM

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@high lodge btw about quarantine - from what I've gathered so far, you have to do it if you're coming from high risk region and don't have fresh negative test at the point of entering Germany

So negative test results seem to give you right for normal moving around

There's also mentioned 'not being in high risk area 14 days prior to entering Germany', but I haven't figured that out yet

Friends want to come to Berlin and Hamburg so I'm trying to figure out, I'll share when I get something precise

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:28 PM

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oh nice

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well i do not know if German gov considers our country as high risk

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and i hope the tests that they have is better than here

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so no false positive occur

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@high lodge yeah, here salary is mostly unknown

Even if xing hides it, it doesn't mean that company published it

But there's probably some trial available or time for cancelling

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https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Risikogebiete_neu.html

RKI - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 - Informationen zur Ausweisung inter...

Unten aufgeführte Staaten werden aktuell als Gebiete, in denen ein erhöhtes Risiko für eine Infektion mit SARS-CoV-2 besteht, ausgewiesen. In Klammern ist aufgeführt, seit wann das Gebiet als Risikogebiet gilt. Am Ende der Seite finden Sie eine Zusammenfassung der Gebiete, die...

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:29 PM

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okay, but ... does recruiters give offers with salaries?

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Nope

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:30 PM

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so it is kind of...rly bad thing

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because

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I mean, you're guaranteed to hear about salary when job offer is on the table, like they want you

But everything before that isn't guaranteed

Or even trustworthy

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But they will often ask you what you want

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:31 PM

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i might apply for offer, all cool and stuff and then i get like 1k euro monthly because thats the offer

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the thing is, i know my value in polish market, but polish market salary is mostly very low comparing it to euro propably

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so in other words i propably gonna say lower by very much or higher too much

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Also, I had an experience going through the whole process (they asked me what is my range and I told them) and then they offered me the job with significantly less 😂

Eg I said 50-60k was offered 40k

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:32 PM

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oh so you offer annually?

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I was like wtf?!

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Yes, and bruto

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So you want to check those bruto neto Rechner online

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:33 PM

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hmm do you have some trusty calc website for that?

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because for me brutto is like... for example 20 brutto here would be around 14 or 12 netto

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(or even less will check rly quick)

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oh actually it says 17ish

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:36 PM

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https://www.steuerberaten.de/rechner/lohn/

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:40 PM

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uhm...

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how it can be

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that 20 brutto is 16 netto lol, i thought Poland have more taxes than German

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lol

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:42 PM

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germany has an incrmental taxation system

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so someone earning 100k a year pays a different percentage than someone earning 30k a year

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:43 PM

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hmm

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and what are those Steuerklasse?

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also it seems... that i would need to at least 60k a year or 70k to have around 3k per month netto

exotic barn Sep 26, 2020, 2:45 PM

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so someone earning 100k a year pays a different percentage than someone earning 30k a year
Je Reicher du bist desto weniger zahlst du am ende

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Bei uns ist es egal ob du nur ein paar Millionen oder ne Milliarde hast

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der Spitzensteuersatz ist für alle Superreichen der gleiche

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:47 PM

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plus a 5.5% solidarity tax

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:50 PM

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okay..lets say i would find something in Düsseldorf, an offer/job, how much per month should i have in order to live decently + could save some cash for crisis?

exotic barn Sep 26, 2020, 2:52 PM

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1,5k -2k maybe idk depends on what you would define decent as

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:54 PM

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well own apartment, ofc pc master race (some other IT related stuff for practice), good food (maybe cooking depending time and will) and some exercises, also able to travel a little

humble bough Sep 26, 2020, 2:55 PM

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my general strategy is to look up apartments in the area that fit your desired standard of living and then multiply their rent by 3

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since 1/3 of your income is what your rent is apparently supposed to be

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:55 PM

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for a student visa you're required to have about 10k euros a year so about 830 a month. that's a good guide for a cheaper but still viable standard of living

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I am not student

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nor i need visa

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:55 PM

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that's not the point

humble bough Sep 26, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I think they mean that it can be a guide for cheap living

exotic barn Sep 26, 2020, 2:56 PM

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In den vergangen Jahren hat sich das Durchschnittseinkommen gewandelt. So liegt es jetzt - bei einer Vollzeitstelle - bei durchschnittlich ‭46.560‬ € pro Jahr oder 3.880,00 € pro Monat. Netto haben Arbeitnehmer in Deutschland im Schnitt 1.890 € zur Verfügung.

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:56 PM

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the point is the government sets that amount as 'this is how much it costs to live'

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so you can use that as a rough guide

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durchsnitt is not a good measurement

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because everyone who earns 500k a year pumps those numbers up

humble bough Sep 26, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I'm currently living off 870€ a month from my DAAD stipend in Berlin and it's definitely liveable-but-cheap

deep vessel Sep 26, 2020, 2:57 PM

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median is a far better measurement for standard of living

humble bough Sep 26, 2020, 2:57 PM

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idk how much different the cost of living is in düsseldorf tho

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and I'm not in my own apartment, I'd need to be making more if I wanted to rent my own place

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but I need to get a blue card once I graduate anyway so I've conveniently got a "minimum acceptable offer" built into that lol

olive summit Sep 26, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Düsseldorf is one of the lesser known cities, definitely cheaper than Berlin but still expensive as it is a major metropolitan area.

jade warren Sep 26, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I live in Bavaria and probably spend on average about 8-900 a month incl rent

dry ravine Sep 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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If anyone is still confused about entry requirements, my info is based on rki.de and if you're from a high risk region you can either do a pcr test whose results are negative at most 48 hours before leaving, or you have to do the pcr test for free at the airport and do a self quarantine until the results are out. If you don't want to do a pcr test before coming or after entering due to whatever reason, you have to do a 14 day self quarantine

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I entered Germany 3 days ago so my information on this is fresh

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https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Risikogebiete_neu.html
Here are the risk regions

RKI - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 - Informationen zur Ausweisung inter...

Unten aufgeführte Staaten werden aktuell als Gebiete, in denen ein erhöhtes Risiko für eine Infektion mit SARS-CoV-2 besteht, ausgewiesen. In Klammern ist aufgeführt, seit wann das Gebiet als Risikogebiet gilt. Am Ende der Seite finden Sie eine Zusammenfassung der Gebiete, die...

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More info on that site regarding entry

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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my general strategy is to look up apartments in the area that fit your desired standard of living and then multiply their rent by 3
@humble bough

this is really good strategy to get some feeling!

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@dry ravine thanks! that's what I've gathered so far, thanks for confirming that I'm on the right track
do you maybe know if you're coming by car and have test done before coming, do you have to show that to someone or how it goes?
that part I can't figure out, my friends are coming by car so I don't know if there's some border control where they could just show the document or they'll have to come here and we have to go somewhere with them....

dry ravine Sep 26, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I have no idea tbh I arrived in a plane @hallow oyster

high lodge Sep 26, 2020, 7:22 PM

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well i will propably also come by a plane

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because of luggage

hallow oyster Sep 26, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@dry ravine thanks 😄

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I guess that's easier, you do test before in country of origin, have paperwork with you on the plane, and check where you can show the papers and go happily around 😄

dry ravine Sep 26, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yes planes are usually empty and when I arrived Frankfurt airport was empty too despite a lot of planes

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So you'll have an easy time

minor pivot Sep 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I'm coming to Germany!

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Flight on the 11th of October

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Got my signed contract, and hard copy is coming in the mail

exotic barn Sep 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Flight on the 11th of October
@minor pivot nice

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hope ya like it here

glad current Sep 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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:D my first time flying to germany was 11th october last year!!

tame forum Sep 27, 2020, 8:19 AM

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📎 20200927_101902.jpg

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What ia the symbol before "126" called?

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Abschnitt?

lapis olive Sep 27, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Paragraph

deep vessel Sep 27, 2020, 9:03 AM

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but that's the section symbol not the paragraph symbol

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this would be paragraph
¶

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wtf german

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e.g. in english you can have
§5 ¶9 which would be the 9th paragraph of the sixth section of a text. where sections can consist of multiple paragraphs
i'd be interested to know the history of why in german it's just for paragraphs

tight kelp Sep 27, 2020, 9:27 AM

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you seem to be working off the assumption that germany diverged from english, as opposed to the two conventions developing separately

amber perch Sep 27, 2020, 9:28 AM

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different countries use different symbols differently

tight kelp Sep 27, 2020, 9:29 AM

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germany uses a §x.y.z notation to indicate hierarchy. No need for a separate symbol, and whatever number comes last is a paragraph, so the semantics of § are always consistent

amber perch Sep 27, 2020, 9:29 AM

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e.g. 1,000.00 and 1.000,00

tight kelp Sep 27, 2020, 9:30 AM

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or 10,00,00,00,00,000 mmlol

deep vessel Sep 27, 2020, 9:47 AM

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the section symbol is from latin/greek so i doubt the englush and german section sign were developed separately

grand patio Sep 27, 2020, 9:49 AM

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eyeslol

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( https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph )

foggy prism Sep 27, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I’ve never seen ¶ used anywhere other than in MS Word to indicate the end of a paragraph

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here it’s usually things like… Paragraph 2 Absatz a

deep vessel Sep 27, 2020, 9:58 AM

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i've seen it in citations

foggy prism Sep 27, 2020, 9:58 AM

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though our constitution seems to use Artikel as the main subdivision

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well, Titel > Kapitel > Artikel

tight kelp Sep 27, 2020, 11:25 AM

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the section symbol is from latin/greek so i doubt the englush and german section sign were developed separately
@deep vessel the conventions around them is what i meant, i never said they both coincidentally came up with the same symbol

humble bough Sep 27, 2020, 11:48 AM

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outside of microsoft word I've mostly seen ¶ used in editing shorthand to mean "split a new paragraph here" but I haven't had to use that shorthand since elementary school

minor pivot Sep 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Hello!

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Starting to go insane.

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Is there any, finalized, perfectly complete source of documentation for moving to germany on a work visa?

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Feeling the stress of conflicting sources, and starting to worry I've missed something.

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Also, any anecdotal evidence for how long the work permit will take, once the application has been made?

low imp Sep 28, 2020, 2:44 AM

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hi !

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I am thinking of transfer to German unis, does anyone know the mechanism?

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the college that I am attending now use ECTS so probably it would be easier to transfer my grades, but I would like to know if anyone here has ever done such thing

hidden briar Sep 28, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Without finishing your current bachelor / master? Even just within Germany you would have to redo a lot of courses (but still better than coming from another system)

humble bough Sep 28, 2020, 8:52 AM

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hey so I'm about to run out of pills for my SSRI, and my Hausarzt is closed this week. Does anybody know what the easiest way of finding someone else to write me a new prescription within the next few days would be? Stopping the meds cold turkey is reputed to really really suck.

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I'm in Berlin if that's relevant

crude trench Sep 28, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Hallo Leute, Ich möchte eine Reise nach Deutschland nächstes Jahr plannen ... Und Ich möchte Hamburg einen Besuch abstatten... Wie viele Tage würdet euch hier bleiben und was konnen wir in der Stadt machen?

dry ravine Sep 28, 2020, 1:02 PM

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How long does the Steuer-ID need to be available

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Like damn I can't open a bank account to do anything without it

deep vessel Sep 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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it usually comes a week or two after your anmeldung

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corona may have slowed things down tho

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but you should still be able to open account with n26 without a steuer-id if you need a bank account asap

humble bough Sep 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I don't think either of my bank accounts (Sparkasse and N26) wanted a steuer-ID

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'cause I didn't have one until after I'd opened them lol

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they just wanted a form of ID (I used my passport) and my anmeldung

mild quiver Sep 28, 2020, 4:18 PM

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uhhhh for me i had issues receiving the steuer ID in the post so i went to [forgot name of building], gave them my info, and asked them

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technically speaking i dont think they're allowed to give it out but most do anyway since it's a common issue

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lemme find the name

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finanzamt

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you can just ask them directly

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was super easy for me to do

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also i dont recall ever needing a steuer ID for my n26 account either

humble bough Sep 28, 2020, 4:20 PM

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they asked for my American Steuer-ID when I got my Sparkasse account but in the US that's just your social security number for most people so