Yep
#archived-culture-study-visa
broken remnant
But if you're tellibg me that he aöready did that long ago
Probaböy he is trying it again
Personally i find this very disgusting
i tried to translate the 2nd part of section 9- it came to this " (2) Termination shall not dissolve the Company. The terminating shareholder shall cease to be effective upon termination.
broken remnant
Got more replies from the new tenants
They are all paying
So he is trying out his luck
heady crane
It is more problematic, if you have a Gesellschaftervertrag than a simple Mietvertrag.
I would, again, suggest, you search for a simple legal counseling which should be nothing more than 50 Euros.
heady crane
I have written a bit per dm.
tropic edge
A Mieterverein would also provide some council right?
heady crane
Yes, either a lawyer specialised on rental problems or a Mieterverein.
exotic barn
Kann jemand der/die Deutscher/Deutsche ist mir mal erklären, warum es mir so scheint, dass die ganzen Leute im Norden so freundlich sind, aber trotzdem finde ich es so schwer irgendwelche deutschen Freunde machen können. Ich treffe oft Leute aber rede mit ihnen danach gar nicht. Sie scheinen halt nicht offen irgendwie. Ist das ein Teil der Kultur? Ist es irgendwie weil ich Ausländer bin? Ich habe wirklich keine Ahnung. Aber im Süden finde ich dass die Leute das ganz Gegenteil sind, es war für mich ganz leicht dort Freunde machen können. Vielleicht habe ich Unglück gehabt iwn
heady crane
@exotic barn "Die im Norden" sind bekannt dafür, dass sie etwas kühler sind 🙂 D.h. sie grüßen zwar, aber sie sind nicht so schnell so freundlich oder gastfreundlich wie im Süden.
Das liegt nicht an dir, das ist allgemein so.
Ein Beispiel:
Du gehst auf ein Fest, es gibt einen Tisch mit 4 Sitzen, 2 sind belegt.
Norden: Du suchst einen anderen Tisch
Süden: Du setzt dich dazu
exotic barn
Jap, kann ich bestätigen. Komme aus dem Norden, lebe aber momentan eher im Süden. Da muss man sich schon umgewöhnen :^)
Das ist doch blöd aber ich habe das mir ja schon bemerkt 😒
Bei Leuten im Norden musst du dann eher nochmal nachhaken. Das ist bei uns nicht ungewöhnlich
An diese Kultur hab ich mich noch nicht gewöhnt
Was heißt nachhaken?
Ich glaube ich verstehe wie du es meinst trotzdem dass ich dieses Wort nicht kenne
XD
Du darfst nicht so schnell aufgeben, wenn sich Leute aus dem Norden nicht sofort wieder bei dir melden. Red eher nochmal mit denen, dann wird was draus. Die Norddeutschen sind da etwas verschroben ;)
Jemand hier auf discord hat mir erzählt dass ein Freund von ihm eine Freundin in Deutschland jetzt hat aber trotzdem hat er irgendwie gar keine normalen Freunde...und er wohnt seit schon 4 Jahren in Deutschland 😐
Ich fühle mich aber schon als ob ich aufgeben will
Ich habe 13 Freunde oder so in Bayern und ich habe dort 5 Wochen verbracht aber ich bin schon seit 2 Monaten im Norden und habe immer noch gar keine Freunde gemacht.
Ich verstehe diese Kultur nicht
heady crane
@exotic barn ich denke, es ist auch in anderen Ländern nicht so einfach.
Geh mal für 3 Monate nach Alaska oder Texas... da ist das auch nicht so einfach.
Gib nicht auf, sei freundlich usw.
Wo im Norden bist du denn?
heady crane
Oh, Niedersachsen. Ich bin dort aufgewachsen.
Wo bist du dort? (kannst es mir auch per DM sagen), dann kann ich dir vielleicht ein paar Tipps geben.
exotic barn
Es ist doch leichter in den USA Freunde zu machen generell
Lüneburg
Nicht so weit von Hamburg
humble bough
Wie einfash es ist, Freunde zu machen, hängt nach meiner Erfahrung mehr von deiner Lebenssituation ab als davon wo du wohnst (in Deutschland oder den USA)
Wenn du studierst oder in einem Unternehmen mit einer seht freundlichen Arbeitskultur arbeitest, ist es einfacher Freunde zu machen.
Sehr viele Amerikaner haben der gleiche Problem damit, in den USA Freunde zu finden.
heady crane
Ich denke, man darf nicht rausgehen und denken "ich will jetzt Freunde finden". Das klappt nicht, das klappt ja auch bei Partnern nicht. Dann ist man verkrampft und zu fixiert.
Eher rausgehen, weiterhin freundlich bleiben und offen, Leute suchen, die gemeinsame Interessen mit einem haben. Wenn daraus Freunde werden, ist es toll. wenn nicht, dann nicht.
exotic barn
Bis jetzt ist es nicht toll
tight kelp
trotzdem hat er irgendwie gar keine normalen Freunde...und er wohnt seit schon 4 Jahren in Deutschland
das liegt 100% (ok, 90%) an der Person. Ich kenne Leute die sogar Jahrzehnte in Deutschland verbracht haben und noch keine Freunde außer ihrem vorbestehenden Zirkel kennengelernt haben.
Manche wollen sich einfach nicht die Mühe geben, und das liegt meistens nicht an dem Land, wo man lebt. Es passiert schon eben in jemandes Heimat
heady crane
Ich lebe seit zehn Jahren in Österreich und habe gerade mal 4 Freunde (eine Familie), ansonsten nur welche über das Netz. Das wird schon!
exotic barn
Ich habe noch eine Frage, warum verwenden so viele Deutschen englische Worte/Sprüche in ihren Unterhaltungen? Ich finde es wirklich echt komisch 😂😂 seid ihr auf ihre eigene Sprache nicht stolz oder was?
exotic barn
Englisch hört sich überhaupt nicht cool an meiner Meinung nach aber ich bin eher voreingenommen als englischer Einheimische
heady crane
@exotic barn Englisch ist international und manche Dinge hören sich einfach "cooler" an.
Das ist normal, u.a. weil ja nach dem Kriege lange Zeit viele Engländer und US-Amerikaner in Deutschland lebten. Aber auch weil vieles auf Englisch beworben wird "Come in and find out" usw.
Und durch das Netz, z.B. die Gamersprache.
Das hat mit Sprachenstolz also weniger zu tun. Sprachen entwickeln sich, verändern sich. Und genau wie bei dem Essen hat auch alles einen Einfluss auf sie.
Engländer haben auch z.B. Begriff wie "Kindergarten" übernommen.
exotic barn
Hä? Englisch ist halt langweilig 😂
Ja aber ihr habt viele Worte mehr als ein einziges übernommen
heady crane
Ich finde alle Sprachen interessant, spreche deshalb oft auch Mischmasch.
Da kommt dann schon ein "Damn, ich habe schon wieder verloren." usw.
Wie gesagt: ist normal.
Aber ist das nicht alles etwas zu sehr OT?
humble bough
Ob eine Sprache "cool" klingt oder nicht, hängt von deinen kulturellen Vorurteilen und Erfahrungen ab.
exotic barn
Ich kann einfach nicht verstehen wie man den Ton von englisch überhaupt cool finden kann aber naja das ergibt noch Sinn wenn man nicht damit aufgewachsen ist zuhause
Hört sich nicht schlecht an
foggy prism
Englisch ist “cool” weil alle Filme heutzutage auf Englisch sind
foggy prism
so viele moderne Medien kommen z.B. aus Hollywood
wie die Sprache effektiv klingt spielt keine Rolle
exotic barn
Ich find’s gar nicht cool. Das wird das letze Mal sein dass ich das erwähne
dry nacelle
Kommt auch auf den akzent an
exotic barn
Ich finde es normal
dry nacelle
Ich finde britisches englisch cooler als amerikanisches
dry nacelle
heady crane
das dürfte dann eine ähnliche Diskussion werden wie "Pizza mit oder ohne Ananas?"
exotic barn
Lol
Was heißt „jemanden anzeigen” im Sinne von Verbrechern, die gefangen wurden?
Ich lerne gerade noch mehr Vokabeln
👀
Das Wörterbuch hat’s nicht
dry nacelle
Report somebody
heady crane
inform
dry nacelle
But thats before theyre caught
heady crane
(daher das Lied "Informer" von Snows).
Eine Anzeige wird erstattet bevor ermittelt wird und bevor es zur Verurteilung kommt (ggf.)
exotic barn
ty
heady crane
Jemanden anzeigen, der schon gefangen wurde, ist nur selten der Fall.
exotic barn
Es geht um Verbrechertum halt
Sagt mir bitte ob das hier geht:
Er hat das Geld von der Bank gestohlen. Ich habe ihn den Polizei deshalb angezeigt.
heady crane
Ich habe ihn deshalb bei der Polizei angezeigt.
heady crane
No, "die Polizei" ist Singular. Die Polizei ist gerade gekommen, die Polizei hat etwas getan usw.
heady crane
Kann es sein, dass das Wörterbuch sich auf das Englische bezieht? (Police are going to arrest...)
und nicht auf "die Polizei" im Deutschen?
tropic edge
Lol @ making friends in Germany tho. You make the friends you want to keep. And as long as you're a nice person who enjoys people's company and your company is enjoyable to others, just make sure you meet these people on a regular basis. Go to classes or networking events, then invite the people who you clicked with out for coffee, then once again to a common interest. If that doesn't make you friends or get them to contact you, then move on. It's really not as different as in other cultures, it's just more that people like to share activities because time is tight.
Finding hobbies which are social are also a big plus.
exotic barn
I am definitely a nice person who enjoys other people’s company
Otherwise I wouldn’t be trying to meet people..
I don’t agree, it’s definitely more difficult here, for me at least.
tight kelp
that may depend on the way you're used to do things socially, which is entirely culture-dependent. It's easy to say a culture is more closed or open than another but i don't think that, on average, people from northern germany would have fewer friends than people from the south, on an individual level.
exotic barn
Well I made more friends in a shorter amount of time in the south
Which is just my personal experience obviously
tropic edge
I am not sure, because I'm sort of obsessive when it comes to social interaction and I've informed myself well on the subject. I've asked friends as well if they've managed, they all told me it works the same way it's just that Germans think a bit differently. Spend enough time in Norddeutschland and you'll see what I mean. And if you're able to adopt that and find ways to click with people and stay in touch and go out for coffee and support each other as friends then yipee
tight kelp
naturally you're used to making friends a certain way in the USA and clearly that way does not match the way the same thing is done in (northern) Germany. Perhaps you should consider a different approach than whatever you're currently doing
exotic barn
If I’m able to? What am I supposed to do, or what did you do?
It can’t work the same way if everyone here thinks differently
Than how I grew up with
heady crane
I must admit, I did not like that "oh, we are friends immediately"-approach when I was in the USA because if was very... well, superficial.
I am not sad because I only have 5 friends or so because I make a difference between friends and people I know.
I mean, in the USA I had friends but it was more like people I hang out with but they did not know much about me. But for me friends is more than just a guy or someone else to hang out with, to talk to etc.
tropic edge
Big German thing here^
exotic barn
That’s not my mindset either. I don’t expect to be friends with someone in literally 5 seconds. I talk to people for like 30 minutes and then never talk to them again
heady crane
And I think - if you see that your approach is not working somewhere else, where you are living now, then you must try to find another one because just complaining or thinking "but I learnt it that way" will surely not help.
exotic barn
...
as if I know another way
I’ve never done it another way
What do you recommend
tropic edge
It's okay, you could learn it 😄 don't worry about it!
exotic barn
„Try another way.” What should I do, stare at them and not talk to them 😐
tropic edge
German conversation manners are very important!
Asking questions back about how your day was, for starters.
tight kelp
I understand the "first contact" may look similar between southern germany and the USA in that you can just approach someone and talk to them, which is harder to do in the north, but we're all humans. If you do stuff with people you have a hook
and from there it's just a matter of keeping contact, and you shouldn't expect others to do it spontaneously if you're the one who wants it
exotic barn
My first instinct is to do what I’ve always done, that shouldn’t even be a surprise
I’d like to know what I should do instead
tropic edge
Me too, I'm interested in the answer to this or if there is a resource to look or read into.
tight kelp
also, i'm speaking from the perspective of an introvert here so mind my bias, but i've never seen too much of a point in wanting to have friends for the sake of having friends. If you like to be sociable do social activities and you will eventually meet people. If you don't, you won't
heady crane
I said that you might should think about your interests and then think how to meet people with the same interests, which should be easy concerning the fact that there is the internet.
Try not to find friends, try to find people who have something in common with you..
I mean - you are just wanting something and for me it seems like you want it too hard but you want it your way and you realise it does not work.
Well, then either you try it this way again and again or you are trying to get and adapt to the culture where you are living.
I know this sounds hard, it is not meant this way.
tropic edge
Is there a German equivalent of how to win friends and influence people?
heady crane
nope.
exotic barn
I’m an introvert at heart but I don’t like being that way 100% of the time anymore, i get lonely @tight kelp
I’m like 50/50 introvert/extrovert
I want it because of how I feel which is a bit lonely @heady crane
Idk why I feel lonely, I can not control that
heady crane
I do absolutely understand that and I feel sorry.
But there is no way of "how to make friends the easy way in Luneburg"
heady crane
so try to be patient a bit, do not stress yourself too hard and as I said:
focus on interests, not on friends in general.
I mean: imagine you had 4 friends, what would you do with them?
exotic barn
The thing is that I only have 2 classes right now and so I have way too much free time
I feel that I waste too much time doing nothing
vague brook
Don't you have people at school you can hang with
heady crane
As I said: what would you like to do with your friends?
vague brook
Don't you have interests where you can go and meet people
I don't know what normal people do, play chess at local community or smth
tropic edge
Verein + random classes + listening to people and talking to them + getting in touch again with said people. But keep in mind what Maxwell Da Mundo and brzrkr said - your circle of friends isn't going to be of the same strength, some are going to be people you chill with every other weekend, some you'll lend money if they're in a tight spot.
heady crane
I mean: for example I would like to find people who also like cats and who would like to have a glass of Guiness with me.
So I am not searching for friends, I am searching for people who would like to talk about cats or/and would like to share a Guiness with me. Because that way we would have something in common already.
So it depends on your hobbies and interests. If you like chess, find a chess partner, if you like going to a gymn, go there. etc.
Use the web for searching people around your place.
You have so many opportunities.
vague brook
And don't expect people to be your besties, that probably won't happen
exotic barn
I mean there doesn’t seem to be much to do here in the first place anyways, other than the club or bar or maybe getting coffee/food. I’m just talking about people simply to talk to for the hell of it. There doesn’t necessarily have to be an activity involved to hang out
vague brook
I mean I wouldn't invest too much into a foreigner that'll likely be gone
As brutal as it sounds
exotic barn
That’s a terrible mindset to have @vague brook
vague brook
That's pragmatic mindset
tight kelp
I’ll just have to keep trying
imo that's exactly the opposite of what you should do. Don't go out to try and make friends, go out to do stuff, like a hobby where it's likely to team up or interact with strangers, or meet people from your area on the internet for specific purposes (say, groups looking for people for sport or whatever). Look for Vereine for stuff you like
exotic barn
I could think the same thing about these German students
vague brook
That's why I'd recommend to focus on activities and finding people to spend time with, not necessarily someone to be your best friend forever
exotic barn
But I don’t
I don’t have that many interests that I can take part in here other than like the gym
tight kelp
in here
what can be done in the usa that can't be done in germany?
exotic barn
We’re not talking about the entire Germany just Niedersachsen
tight kelp
the question still stands. I've never been there myself but surely it's not a sterile desert where nothing happens, is it
unless you live in a village or small town, in which case i can definitely understand that making friends can be rather hard
exotic barn
It certainly feels that way
heady crane
@exotic barn well, people in Germany, in my opinion, do not simply hang out. They want to do something. Drink some coffee, take a walk, do some sports etc.
And there is not much?
There is a lot - you have a famous museum, you have Laser Tag, you have sports grounds as far I know, cinemas, bars, restaurants, you can rent a canoo, etc. etc. etc.
If you like the gym, use the goddamn internet and search for people who also do.
I mean, you have so many ways to find people to hang out with.
Advertise on the internet, pin a searching note on the black board in the university "Male (x years) is looking for people who would like to go out, to the cinemas etc."
I mean, when I came to Paderborn, I did not even have a cell phone or the internet but there was a small magazine where I could an advertise in.
Just start going.
tight kelp
have you tried reaching out to other foreigners? Since there are a lot of Americans in Germany they tend to form large groups. Look for others who don't have that opportunity and must therefore reach out outside their comfort zone
heady crane
Niedersachsen has a lot to offer. It ranges from festivities of all kind, zoos, bird parks, entertainment parks, canoo renting, gymns all over, cinemas, theatres, operas, walking paths, barefoot paths, museums, churches to visit and to get to know about, pubs, bars, restaurants, "Stammtische " for foreign people, VHS-courses to meet people (!), woods, paths for cycling, ice stadions...
I mean, what else can you ask for what it not possible ther?
tropic edge
If you use half of what everyone has written here so far, I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting to meet up with new people in Germany.
heady crane
I am sitting in a goddamn wheelchair and even I have the possibility to look for some people to talk to and hang out with if I wanted to.
I am out, I realize I am starting to get a bit frustrated, I am sorry. Good luck, Nate.
exotic barn
Well yeah I really am too
tropic edge
Thanks @heady crane for all the insight and help. I appreciate it a lot, when I'm back in DE, I'll definitely put it all into good use😅
exotic barn
I couldn’t think of any of those things because none of those things are things that I normally do I guess @heady crane I really did just need some ideas because as I said I had no idea what there is to do
humble bough
A big part of it is that you do need to do activity stuff like that, but also I think irrespective of location it often becomes a little too obvious that you're desperate for friends and that vibe can often put people off
exotic barn
Bro I am nothing but friendly to people. I’m just talking to them in normal conversations, I’m not explicitly asking them to be friends with me.
humble bough
might not be the case in your scenario but I've found that it can definitely contribute to people struggling to make friends when they don't have a small existing friend group to branch out from
humble bough
I mean, good! but if they're all immigrants/expats/whatever then it's probably kinda an island rather than a web you can use to make more german friends
exotic barn
I guess the main thing is that I just get bored here pretty often
I like having days alone, but not too many at a time
heady crane
okay, last question for today:
Nate, then what the heck do you do? I mean, for me my life is filled with interests.
But you seem to be only interested in gymn, finding friends, university.
But after all that questioning and hints I still do not know what you really are interested in.
And, sorry to be so brutal, if you have no other interests than the gymn, university and hanging out, maybe that is the reason why people do not feel attracted to the idea of being your friends.
You sound to me like someone who is desperately searching for a partner. You can see these people in discos, restaurants, bars etc. They do not go there, read a book and are open for people, they just go there and think "hope I will get a partner". They might not say that but you can feel it, you can see how they behave, how they act for example when they smile to someone and he does not react to it. Their faces change because you can see their frustration.
On the other hand you have people who just go out. Their spirit is like "Hey, when I get a partner, this is great, but if I do not, I do not mind, I am okay with myself". and those people are highly attractive for other people.
The more you seem to be able to be independent and not longing for something too hard, the more attractive you are for other people. Not sexual, but in a friendly manner as well.
If you act like here in reality, you seem so desperate that people will definitely "smell" this and turn away sometimes because they might fear than we you become friends with them, it will be exhausting because you are so desperately longing for friends.
And if you get bored so easily, you might open your eyes for new interests and broaden your horizon which could help to fiend friends and you in general.
exotic barn
What do you mean by a “partner”? That can be interpreted in a few ways
In America my biggest hobby really was gaming but I can’t even do that here. I also liked skiing, hiking in the mountains, watching YouTube (which i can still at least do) and of course still weight lifting
I don’t know what I wanna do in my career either
heady crane
as I said - it is of no importance if you are looking for a partner like in "someone to hang out with" or "someone to be in love with".The thing I wrote counts for both.
And I do not know why gaming should be a problem.
exotic barn
Because my gaming computer is in America
I am already a person who “just goes out” as well. Those nights are always fun and I’m not even looking for anyone on those nights
It had more to do with the weekdays
heady crane
so either you broaden your horizon or stay as desperate as you are.
Your choice.
exotic barn
Yeah you’re right
But I definitely don’t feel desperate.
I was looking for advice and that shouldn’t be viewed as desperate
heady crane
okay, either you broaden your horizon or you stay longing for friends and not finding some 🙂
in any way: Good luck and all the best for you.
Sorry for being harsh.
exotic barn
I will definitely do that and thank you
exotic barn
As others have said already, you should do things you personally find enjoyable, not for the sole sake of finding new friends. If you continue to do that, you'll find people who're interested in the same activities, thus earning you friends in the long run
warped atlas
Giving my two cents as well on the table
Finding friends is hard being an immigrant, in any country.
Acquaintances or interest groups are “easy”
Frankly my DGAF level is high quite a bit, that I personally spend most of my free time alone now.
Which sounds sad in a way, but frankly, I like just being by myself a lot of the times
I do miss having deep connections with somebody, but....well, let’s just say I’m not so gungho actively looking for it
For context, I live in BaWü, and live in a small village north of Ulm
Consider yourself, Nate, lucky, to still be studying, since you definitely have it easier to build a friend circle, in comparison to when you‘re already working...
tight kelp
honestly i'd say finding friends out of the blue is just as difficult in a foreign country as in one's homeland
heady crane
fortune cookie comment of the day (not meant ironically)
warped atlas
Finding deep connections anywhere is honestly difficult.
You both have to be willing to invest time in each other and also both be looking to find connections.
Finding friends is sort of like finding the love of your life, only without wanting to have sex with each other 👀
Lange Rede, kurzer Sinn, Timing‘s a bitch.
exotic barn
maintaining a friendship is effort but that's what makes it good
heady crane
Life is a bitch
solemn bay
Yeah. Spending time alone is actually super awesome. I do it like 98% of the time, by choice, because it's simply more fun that way.
And makes the time you do spend with people more special. 😌
late python
Nennt man das nicht “assozial”?
solemn bay
Nuh, antisocial is generally when someone has a negative approach to socialization e.g. being rude, violent, aggressive, etc.
This is introvertiert.
dry nacelle
But one that wants to get out of that crowd asap 😛
dry nacelle
Anwesend 
😛
dry nacelle
Ich mit wachem blick wie man da schnellstmöglich durchkommt
solemn bay
A crowd can be fun. Interacting with people directly is the thing which is exhausting. 😄
late python
Don’t take them too serious and stay kind then it can be fun
solemn bay
Yeah, fun and exhausting.
late python
Sometimes yea
tight kelp
I don't remember where, but I once read someone put it in the most elegant way: the difference between extrovert and introvert is how you recharge your batteries.
you can be sociable and an introvert, it's just that social interactions eventually drain your energy, whereas an extrovert feels the need to have social interactions or else they'll feel lonely or incomplete
solemn bay
Yeah.
late python
Well you can chose yourself if you offer some of your energy or not
solemn bay
Unfortunately not.
tight kelp
not really, no
tight kelp
just having people around can be tiresome for someone like me, even when they're people I like, or when i don't interact with them at all
solemn bay
Yeah, absolutely.
solemn bay
This isn't magic. This is psychology, lol.
tight kelp
there is a closed set of about three people in the whole world which I can have in my same room for hours on end and have it not affect my stress
late python
That’s nice
tight kelp
and even so, i have several friends whom i really like and am very glad to have around. Just, after a bit, even if i'm still having fun, i'll start needing to be alone for a while
solemn bay
And part of it is actually also activity prioritization. Hanging out with a friend is nice, but why choose that if you can choose things like... reading a book, playing a game by yourself, studying languages, programming, etc?
But then if someone wants to do those activities with you... that's a lot more fun than just socializing in general. 😄
Although not always preferred to doing it alone.
late python
Bin müde 💤 gute Nacht folks 🌙
tight kelp
hmm then it must have been a second-hand quote, because i've never read that
fair talon
@tight kelp Same way here with the "short list" of people that don't exhaust me 😅
But working retail for two years led to being an unwilling extrovert by habit lol
tight kelp
I doubt that ^^
fair talon
Well, more of knowing how to act the role
My ideal day is still going for a walk by myself and listening to music lol
tight kelp
emigrating did that for me, but as i said, introvert doesn't mean asocial
even extrovert have to learn social skills, really
fair talon
Yeah, I'm talking mostly about volunteering for things and going out to stuff, not neccesarily the social skills 😅
Youre right about extroverts having to learn too. Hell, some never learn and are extroverted a-holes 👀
tight kelp
exactly :D
in fact, i'm the type people tend to confide to when they have problems with a friend or loved one, and i'd say most of the problems in my experience are reported by extroverts
being at ease with people doesn't necessarily make you good at dealing with them, or at empathy in general
fair talon
Love coach before youve even had your first relationship, amiright? 😂
dry nacelle
Someone compared it with controllers: an extroverted cable controller you plug in and it works as long as it has to. An introverted controller with a battery needs be left alone to recharge, then you can use it until the battery has drained and it needs to recharge again
tight kelp
that has some implications i don't really like
heady crane
@tight kelp regarding this:
I don't remember where, but I once read someone put it in the most elegant way: the difference between extrovert and introvert is how you recharge your batteries.
you can be sociable and an introvert, it's just that social interactions eventually drain your energy, whereas an extrovert feels the need to have social interactions or else they'll feel lonely or incomplete
I do not think it is that simple.
There are many reasons for being an introvert or an extrovert.
And the argument above reduces it to very little reasons.
Introvert does not, in any way, mean asocial or anti-social. On the contratry.
warm flume
hello guys small question here
Evidence of accomplished Bachelor/ Diploma degree (diploma and transcript of records with ECTS or contact hours)
i already have this exact document yeah but they ask also for this :
Master Business Administration: Additional form "Accomplished courses in Bachelor program"
it's not the same ?
warm flume
it's a list containing what subjects i studied, with additional infos like hours spent and credits
spring veldt
tropic edge
Hahahah
Keine Schwäche zeigen xDddd
Wenn jemand mit mir Deutsch sprechen möchte
Keine Schwäche zeigen
Wenn ich in der Schule bin und der Lehrer fragt ob ich alles verstanden habe
Keine Schwäche zeigen
tame forum
Oh yah.... I thought it was a PewDiePie thing.....
tight kelp
@heady crane Introvert does not, in any way, mean asocial or anti-social. On the contratry.
sorry but, if you think i said this, you misunderstood my argument completely ^^
tame forum
All his comments have this
But now m realising its a thing german memers made and they jus spreading everywhere
jaunty stirrup
In abnormal psychology, antisocial or antisocial personality disorder is sociopathy
tame forum
k
heady crane
Yes, my bad. Sorry. Do not write after a certain lack of sleep. Sorry.
tight kelp
no harm done
late python
Oh still about extroverts and introverts
misty sky
@jaunty stirrup wassss just talking about this. Only humans are capable of evil. Or capable of choosing moralistically right or wrong. Good and bad. It’s all subjective though. The idea of psychopathy.
Imo
jaunty stirrup
I agree
I mean
I think the good and bad is just all subjective
It's made up due to many factors like the person's experience, family background, culture they grew up in etc.
jaunty stirrup
pale saddle
Okay so your current documents arent enough to be accepted
You'll need to pass a test to qualify
ashen mirage
but have they enrolled me for an aufnahmepruefung?
pale saddle
If you pass an entrance exam, you can attend a free 2 semester course to prepare you for that exam
ashen mirage
can i apply for a visa using this document?
wait they sent me another one i'll send you that as well
pale saddle
They are simply giving you the option of going to the entrance exam for the free course
Idk anything about visas and the email doesn't say
It's simply a test to get into a course which prepares you for a test to get the qualifications you need to enroll at uni
ashen mirage
thank you so much for your help!!!
tropic edge
Bitte denken Sie daran, dass Sie nicht länger als 6 Monate außerhalb Deutschlands bleiben dürfen. Andernfalls endet Ihre Aufenthaltserlaubnis automatisch und eine Rückreise nach Deutschland wäre nicht erlaubt.
Ich weise nochmals darauf hin, da Sie bereits seit dem 30.06.2019 nicht mehr in Berlin angemeldet sind.
So I received this from my Ausländerbehörde, is she suggesting that the date starts counting from 30.6 or is she just pointing out the fact that I'm not registered?
tropic edge
Basically I asked them about taking a holiday and traveling back home. I asked them like 2 or so weeks back. She told me you need to pass a lang test, which I did. Then she said you can stay out of the country on holiday for 6 months after you've done that.
warped atlas
The 6 months thing is straight forward (just don‘t stay longer than 6 months outside of EU)
The Berlin part is where to me gets a bit confusing...
Would an Ausländer be allowed to be in Germany without being registered to a city? 🤔
What Visa do you have now?
tropic edge
Studienvorbereitung Visum
The thing is it's nuts trying to find a long term apartment. I couldn't even find anything in normal human prices. On top of that I still don't have work because my visa doesn't allow it. On top of which I also don't have real student status so I can't apply to most student accommodation.
I'm preparing the email now with all these points just to make it clear. She's probably aware of all these reasons (since she lives in the city as well) but just wants to see what I say about all this.
warped atlas
Sorry about that, mate 😦
You could get in touch with Immobilienmaklers for cheap housing
A friend of mine had given up on his Student status and was searching for a job for a few months, living in Mannheim(well, Ludwigshafen)
And the Makler was able to give him a decent 2er WG that costs nearly the same as a student’s WG we lived in
And I’m guessing the part where you’re no longer registered is where the clerk is basically saying “you ain’t registered with us anymore, so I shouldn’t be bothering with you” ...maybe 😓
tropic edge
Hmmmm if so I'd be really sad😅 I just left the city this Wednesday
tropic edge
I'll update you when I get the reply from her. I just stated how hard it is to get an Anmeldung in the city and due to my status as a student, stuff like that. Also that when I'm back in the city, I'm going to get an Anmeldung done first thing.
warped atlas
Well...an Anmeldung would also need to have an address, I think 😦
Although maybe it’s possible to give a friend’s address instead...
Please ask around more on this case
fair talon
You usually need some type of signed agreement from the property owner that you are living there with permission. So you would need that from the friend/friend's landlord depending on their situation I think
But it could be possible. Theyre not sending inspectors to confirm you are actually living there, thats just where theyre gonna mail you your gov shit 😅
tropic edge
I got the reply
die Frist von 6 Monate beginnt am Tag der Ausreise aus Deutschland.
Achten Sie darauf, dass die Ein- und Ausreisestempel im Pass nachvollziehbar sind.
Sobald Sie zurück in Deutschland sind, melden Sie sich bitte beim Bürgeramt mit der Wohnadresse an.
fair talon
So just got my first grade back... how "good" is a 2.0? Not sure what grade back home would be similar ish (since I was told almost no one gets a 1.0, which is a bit different from the US)
humble bough
from what I can tell from google, most German master's programs require a 2,5 for admittance, and most American master's programs require a 3.0 (B)
humble bough
yeah ik
fair talon
its my first German semester
humble bough
bruh chill
based on this, a German 2,5 is probably close to an American 3.0, so I think a German 2,0 is probably close to like a 3.3 in US GPA
fair talon
Sorry, I type fast 😅
Hm, alright. Cause I'm seeing some sites comparing it to an A-, others comparing it to a mid B (85ish%).
I think the ones comparing it to an A are taking the cultural view to it (i.e. 1.0's being very rare)
humble bough
yeah I'd probably say a 2,0 is a B+ to A- but that's just cause I wanna feel better about the 3,3 I got in one class 👀
different US unis assign the letters to different GPAs too which is of course a problem
mild quiver
what's security like at german football arenas. going to a game tomorrow and i have no idea if outside food/drinks are allowed and if so how thorough it is if i want to bring my own alcohol in.
all i've been told is that in and around the arena the prices are expensive
hidden briar
depands on the stadium, but in general no alcohol, no glass bottles
mild quiver
that's anti-german
tight kelp
that's why true germans drink beforehand on the ubahn
true true germans get up early in the morning to start drinking on the day of the game though of course
mild quiver
if they don't do check clothes i can get at least three cans in
ye we're going to drink before but obviously having some for the game is also ideal
tight kelp
i wouldn't try that
fair talon
Funny enough, drinking on the ubahn is also not allowed 👀 (tho about as enforced as ticket checks)
At least for the one in Hamburg
tight kelp
ofc it's not allowed and ofc people do it anyway
but entering a stadium is a different matter
heady crane
advantage of being female: they do not check tampons etc.
mild quiver
@fair talon i got fined once in köln for drinking on the u-bahn even tho everyone does it
though i didn't have my ID on me so i just gave fake info anyway
heady crane
I had a nice experience in Switzerland, when my Mum visited me. We entered the train and alcohol was forbidden and I had a small bottle of champagne and two glasses with me. We asked the guy from the personal - I told him that my Mum visited me for the first time and it was my birthday, we would only drink one glass each and do not cause any trouble and he leant down on us and said "Happy birthday and just do not cause any trouble, then anything is alright"
We drank the champagne there and noone troubled us.
fleet pelican
thats super sweet
heady crane
In my opinion, being friendly and helpful and nice helps.
foggy prism
alcohol is forbidden on our trains? well that’s a rule that no one’s ever followed
yea, people drink beer on the train all the time and the ones that have a bar actually serve alcohol (beer, wine and aperitifs)
https://www.sbb.ch/de/bahnhof-services/im-zug/bahngastronomie/speisekarten/kalte-getraenke.html (don’t look at the prices, they’re high even for switzerland. guess the train crew has something of a monopoly on drink sales on the train :P
jaunty stirrup
Can we bring our own alcohol onto the trains?
foggy prism
in switzerland? as said, i’m not aware of any such rules. people bring their own food and drinks all the time, this is allowed as long as you don’t make a mess. people also bring beer and I’ve never seen a conductor complain
don’t get drunk on the train tho unless you’re like, alone in the section
jaunty stirrup
Oh
Sorry, didn't scroll up further to read
My bad
Heh
_<
Thank you, ßascha!
fair talon
Funny enough, didnt see any rules about food and drinks (for HVV/Hamburg at least). Just the act of drinking. Apparently you can have alcohol on you, just not drink it 👀
foggy prism
I mean that makes sense
people use public transport to bring things from A to B
that may include alcohol
jaunty stirrup
people use public transport to bring things from A to B
Can I have a dog on the train then?
tight kelp
a dog isn't a thing
jaunty stirrup
I see, ẞascha!
Sorry, brzrkr! Didn't mean that~!!!
TT^TT
Just that some systems I've encountered don't allow pets!
So I just wanted to know in case I visit there or sth
tight kelp
pets are allowed on public transport here in germany. It would honestly make very little sense otherwise, but i don't know if you need to pay extra
i definitely don't see many people with dogs on the ubahn but there certainly are a few
tropic edge
A muzzle may also be required if you're taking your dog on the train I believe
humble bough
anecdotally I've never seen a dog muzzled on the train
I don't see many on the RB or the U-Bahn but I see quite a few on the S-Bahn
but then I mostly ride the S-Bahn so might just be from that
jaunty stirrup
Never seen places that require muzzles, only leashes
But I guess it makes sense
It would be a lot of trouble if the dog bit someone
tropic edge
I know the muzzles thing is very lax in the city where I was staying, but I know some times controllers get really pedantic
tame forum
yah same here, dogs go everywhere w/o muzzles. [duisburg]
i dont think anyone cares. plus these arent like chuihahas or sth. these are pretty medium in size too. could easily tear out the face of a person if they wanted too
saw a dog with a muzzle only once
exotic gorge
I say a dog with a muzzle on the metro in Milan. In Germany, I've only seen dogs with leases sitting or laying down quietly on the trains. Plenty of dogs without leases in parks or on the street tho. Mist dogs were well behaved and very well trained. I never had to worry about dogs surprising me or barking annoyingly.
fleet pelican
lool
lofty gorge
I feel bad for the dog tbh
sullen robin
In welchen Läden in Deutschland kann man z.B. Reis en gros kaufen?
hidden briar
Asia-Läden? Metro u.ä.
sullen robin
Asia-Läden ist eine gute Idee, danke
heady crane
Ich weiß nicht, wo du lebst, aber die Asialäden sind wirklich am besten um gleich säckeweise Reis und auch andere Zutaten z.B. für Asiagerichte davon zutragen und sind weitaus günstiger als Supermärkte.
late ocean
I've heard for a german friend that german internet speed isn't that fast.
Thinking about it I looked around online for a bit, not a whole lot as I'm packing for the trip rn, and there are a few articles that confirm it
But is it really as bad as what they say? It's not of too much concern, but I don't wanna be too shocked by it either.
tight kelp
it's not slow, just probably too expensive for what it is
late ocean
Ach - so typically the more affordable stuff is slower? or is this whole slow nonsense just hyperbola
tight kelp
what do you need it for? Because it definitely does the job
late ocean
My usage is usually, browsing, social media, youtube, posting art, and gaming
tight kelp
then you'll be perfectly fine
depending on where you come from, it might not even be particularly expensive
late ocean
it's likely hamburg I'll be in
fair talon
Yeah, thats been my experience in Hamburg so far. About what I would consider 'average' back in the States (40ish mbps for the flat at best, dipping down to 5-10 at times), but pricier
Thats central Hamburg though. Ive heard it gets much slower/choppier when youre in the countryside
@late ocean If you got Hamburg specific questions, feel free to ask/shoot me a PM sometime. Been here for a little over half a year now, I've had some time to learn the city while still being new enough to understand the struggle 😅
river zealot
hi
fair talon
Hello @river zealot, did you have a question? 👀
craggy iron
Hello, I'm a French student and I will stay in Germany for 6 month!
I'm looking for advice to rent an appartment near Walldorf.
Someone suggested me Mannheim because there is a young community (I'm 22).
Is it a good place? When should I start looking for a flat if I will be there end of February?
Thanks!
river zealot
:(
exotic barn
Stop
river zealot
kk
craggy iron
So someone who worked in Walldorf said Heidelberg and Schwetzingen are better places
to live
heady crane
@craggy iron I hope I will not sound like offending you but:
where will you live and why? What will you do? How much money would you have for living?
Were will you work or study?
I think that would be some pieces of information that would be needed.
craggy iron
I don't know where I will live yet, I'll work in software engineering (1600 EUR/month)
I will work in Walldorf / WDF at SAP
This is a working student salary
heady crane
I see. So you will have to calculate where you could live or afford living at all. Look out for something from now on.
humble bough
gonna try to ask this without getting too TMI, but does anybody have any recommendations for how to get seen ASAP for acute symptoms? I have symptoms of some sort of infection in a sensitive area and while in the US I'd just go to a walk-in clinic and wait around, I don't know where I'm able to do that here
it's not an Emergency (otherwise I'd call 112 or smth) but it's very uncomfortable and unlikely to go away on its own
I have a doctor's appointment with my GP but not until December
solemn bay
Huh, not until December? I don't know how this stuff works in Germany specifically, but perhaps you can try calling around other GPs and seeing if one has a sooner time?
Like if you're fine with travelling a bit to get there, you can probably find somewhere less busy.
humble bough
I mean, idk if it's likely to find a place with an appointment available within the next couple days
which is what I really need
hidden briar
Just go, you just will have to wait a bit
solemn bay
You can also call the doctors office and ask them directly "What should I do in this situation?" Or maybe Germany has some other line you can call where they give that advice. Usually they will happily give you suggestions on the best thing to do.
Like they might know a clinic you can go to, or something.
humble bough
I don't really have the German ability to ask for advice from the nurses and such
beyond "I want an appointment" lol
fallen roost
A lot of them will be able to help in English
tight kelp
^
just go there and they'll see you. Only few doctors visit exclusively under appointments, and even then they won't refuse you if it's urgent
exotic gorge
Some hospitals have an emergency clinic. You can go to the information desk to ask where the walk-in clinic is, and they can most likely answer in English.
old spade
In Austria WGKK for example offers help in English. You can even write answers to their questionnaire in English
Germany probably works like that well
foggy prism
I would personally go to an apothecary and ask for advice, rather than a doctor's office. but I think in the end the result should be the same either way
tight kelp
pharmacist 👀
foggy prism
also like you're in berlin there has to be some walk-in clinic
humble bough
you'd think so but google just turns up ambulances
anyway the problem has mostly gone away on its own so I won't go unless it flares up again
and my local pharmacists definitely don't speak English lmao
hidden cloud
I'm going on student exchange next year to Germany but before that I would be travelling Europe for about two months. If I were to get a SIM card from another country (say from Netherlands) when I start traveling would I face any problems later on since majority of my stay in Europe would be in Germany?
Or should I get another SIM card after I'm done travelling and I'm in Germany during the start of my student exchange
fair talon
I believe the card will say if its EU wide or not (prepaid says this at least). I believe they got rid of roaming fees in the EU, but the prepaid cards here in Hamburg say whether theyre EU inclusive or not
Im assuming prepaid cards because contracts for an exchange semester would be odd 😅
spark mist
For people living in Germany, is there a way to use devices that use 120 volts here (from north america)?
Ping me if you can answer
hidden briar
unless it's some super specialised thing it's easier to buy new
fair talon
Some devices are okay with just a converter (ex: my cell phone usb charger). Others will explode or make the bad bad no good smoke (like my electric blanket) 👀
tropic edge
Hello everyone, so I'm applying for university at TUB this summer semester. It says however on the website allocation via DoSV(hochschulstart.de)(Vergabe im DoSV)
What to do?
exotic barn
head over to https://www.hochschulstart.de/startseite/bewerben-beobachten and apply
rose cedar
is potluck a thing in DE/AT?
by which I mean a lunch/dinner where every guest brings their own dish to share
this is probably the most common form of dinner party here, it's normal if you're invited to dinner to ask what you should bring, to make sure you don't end up with 1 fish and 7 salads
and supposedly this is verboten in DE but relatively common in CH
rose cedar
well not verboten, but not very common
basically what I heard is that it's expected for the host to cook everything, and if you ask if you should bring something, you'd be looked at like a crazy person
heady crane
@rose cedar it not verboten (forbidden), it is just not very common. No matter if is for parties, burials, birthdays... in Germany the person who invites has all the work to do.
For example if you grief after a burial, you invite people, which is often very expensive.
rose cedar
Thank you Maxwell @heady crane
heady crane
for example when the mother of my husband died, he invited the people she knew to share a moment of grief with him after the burial. Expenses: 400 Euro.
verbal linden
i literally had to read this 4 times
rose cedar
That sounds like it puts an even greater strain on the grieving party (by which I mean individual/s, not like a fest)
what I wrote acid?
verbal linden
no what maxwell wrote
heady crane
Yes, it is hard for people who have lost someone because other people, especially in small cities... expect you to invite anyone in the small city to come to the "Trauerfeier", so you are sad, you have lost somesome and it costs you a lot of money to invite all those people.
And it is the same with birthday parties etc.
You, as the one, who invites, are the one who is responsible for all the dishes and drinks etc.
foggy prism
and supposedly this is verboten in DE but relatively common in CH
I can attest that it’s very common here
pretty much the default assumption unless you explicitly say otherwise or invite people to a restaurant
(even if you explicitly say that you’re handling food, people will still bring stuff tbh)
(just not as much)
usually the idea here is that everyone brings something to share (e.g. snacks, dessert, pasta salad, drinks…) and then also their own “main dish” (e.g. a sausage or sth)
rose cedar
Now I’m imagining someone sitting down to eat at a dinner party and just pulling a sausage out of their coat pocket and tucking in
fair talon
Funny enough, my german university is having a potluck on tuesday. But thats largely to promote the international students (we're encouraged to bring ethnic dishes). Otherwise can confirm its not that popular here
warped atlas
You bring wine to share or beer, that‘s the only type of potluck I‘ve seen to be acceptable so far
fair talon
@fleet pelican Sorry for the late reply, went to sleep right afterward 😅
As an American, my "ethnic dish" will be a ~2 liter container of Mac'N'Cheese 👀
fleet pelican
fair talon
In my defense, it was at the insistance of my German classmates who wanted to try it 🤷
I can cook actual food too 😅
lunar garden
I cannot wait to try out a new dish today
egg with spinach 😄
and some chickens too I guess, why not
warm flume
hello i made a CV and i came to ask if anyone can help me correct its possible mistakes and help me optimize it ?
hidden briar
put it in a google doc (see pins in #writing) if you are willing to share it (semi-)publicly, so it's easier to comment
warm flume
thanks!
mild quiver
i know there's a free version of the schufa available but they make it difficult as fuck to get. if i just buy the non- free but instant one for 31 euro can i deduct that from my taxes
heady crane
@mild quiver as far as I know: no.
but look at this page: https://www.t-online.de/finanzen/geldanlage/id_62394750/schufa-auskunft-kostenlos-so-bekommen-sie-gratis-ihre-daten.html
mild quiver
thank
icy mist
anyone by any chance have copies of the TestAS Vorbereitungsbücher?
not really wanting to spend 40 euro on an eBook lol
tame forum
u can try out going to a library
or try VK. the russian facebook
people post a lot of stuff there
i think there was even chinese facebook/ some chinese website which someone mentioned here a few months back i think.
which basically has people sharing these kinda pdf's around
icy mist
yeah I haven't had any luck with the Russians or the library. No idea what the Chinese website would be
copper geyser
Is anyone here in aachen?
hidden briar
what do you want to know?
copper geyser
What's a good place to stay near spraachen akademie?
i talked to prestep but they're a bit expensive
hidden briar
how long are you there?
copper geyser
somewhere about 5 months
hidden briar
try looking for a WG (https://www.wg-gesucht.de/wg-zimmer-in-Aachen.1.0.1.0.html)
icy mist
update to TestAS preparation books: i found them as PDFs and if anyone needs them in the future feel free to dm me
tight kelp
what can I do if a neighbour has received a package for me and has then disappeared from this plane of existence? :>
celest umbra
Follow him to whatever plane he went to?
hidden briar
Plane Shift? Contact Other Plane?
tight kelp
but i don't know which plane that is :<
tropic edge
The paper plane plane
tight kelp
seriously though they got the package in the only 2 hours during which the house was empty in the last two weeks, namely on tuesday, and i've tried a dozen times and they were never home
tropic edge
Jk was it a personal package or one that could be refunded worst case scenario?
tight kelp
i suspect they went on vacation but who the fuck does that right after receiving a package for someone else without even trying to deliver it
like what
personal
lilac orchid
I think the right thing to do right now is to try and break in
and confirm wether its still there or not
tight kelp
i think so too
tropic edge
Maybe try seeing who knows your neighbor really well and has their phone number. Try putting up a nice note in the hall
tight kelp
the package may contain lasagne made by my husband's mum so the break-in would be justified by law
lilac orchid
perfect
tropic edge
That's what someone did in my flat having lost their package that way
tight kelp
i did leave a note
celest umbra
Leave a Note in their letter box?
That way they will see it without doubt
I once had the opposite problem...I accepted a parcel for my neighbour and for weeks nobody would show up...I went to their apartment multiple times and left a note in the letter box
I am sure there's a law stating when the parcel becomes yours when they don't pick it up...maybe your nieghbour wants the lasagna for themselves o:
tight kelp
well if they already ate it it will count as a declaration of war under the geneva convention
ashen mirage
Does anyone here happen to from Frankfurt am main? Just trying to get to know more ppl
Also if you've ever appeared in the Aufnahme Prüfung please share experience
dense cradle
how difficult is it to get into a german uni from murica? im not finding much on acceptance rates
also i ended up getting a D in precalc and it said i needed at least a C, but im in higher maths with better grades rn (Brief calc)
hidden briar
For most Studiengänge it's 100%if you meet the requirements and 0% if you don't
tropic edge
Can someone briefly tell me how NC works? The more I read the more I get confused. Who gets in if a course is NC? What determines whether a course is NC or not? And is it any different than a course that isn't NC in terms of exams or anything like that?
solemn bay
What is NC?
fleet pelican
numerus clausus
foggy prism
i.e. a restriction on how many students are taken in each year
solemn bay
Ohh.
icy mist
@tropic edge https://www.topuniversities.com/blog/german-university-admissions-numerus-clausus this might help you?
tropic edge
Very interesting I kind of get it now, so it all depends on whether I have good enough grades from school or not
So I just found the pdfs for TU Berlin and it looks okay
Thanks hera!
pastel terrace
Does anyone know whats better for colleges, Goethe or TestDAF?
and what has better facilities for learning. My secondary school(high school) German exam is around a B1 level and I know I can't study over there as of next year but I was thinking for my 3rd year of college for work experience. I was wondering if either Goethe or TestDAF is better for getting work experience or some college Erasmus year. And if getting to I think it's C1 to get work experience or go to a college is even doable in 3 years time going to Goethe classes in someone's opinion
tropic edge
TestDaF is as far as I know accepted all over Germany
I am not sure I understand your question very well.
pastel terrace
Grandd and like living in an English speaking country is going from B1 - whatever I need in TestDAF to work in Germany a realistic goal
Or itd take too long
Not enough time, I have about 3 years so I'd say that's plenty but I'm unsure of how much I'd be expected to know for the exam
Idk if I made it clear
pastel terrace
I plan on going to classes throughout pretty much the entire year
Definitely entire school term of 6months
Each year
I been doing German now for 6 years in school and only at kinda B1 level so I wasnt sure how doable but school makes place super slow I feel
fallen roost
Yes school is super slow
A lot of people take classes specifically for TestDaf preparation - I'd definitely do that if possible
Best thing you can do is come to Germany early of course
pastel terrace
I'd say that'd speed up learning significantly if I really immerse myself
fallen roost
Yeah
pastel terrace
I know Goethe does like courses on B1 and B2.1 and B2.2 and so on, would those be of use?
or just testdaf prep ?
fallen roost
Most of my journey from B1 -> C1 was honestly tons of german netflix + talking with germans every day
Oh yeah, thatll help of course
But I've never heard anything good about C1 courses to be honest. After B2 it gets really hard to teach any content
pastel terrace
rip
sullen robin
Classes are helpful because of the social aspect and the ability to get corrected, but it depends how much you are willing to spend
pastel terrace
Well German netflix is definitely something I'll hit up, talking with Germans is a problem
fallen roost
Haha you can talk here!
sullen robin
But I agree that beyond B2 it's a waste of money or time
fallen roost
Yup
solemn bay
Well, classes can be very good if you want to prepare for an exam.
pastel terrace
I plan on getting a job after school that pays decently well throughout college so I'll spend as much as I need to and v true. Just gotta come on here and speak in nur deutsch
fallen roost
You definitely cant get to C1 doing the minimum and just going to classes doing the work, but really if you apply yourself and practice/consume a lot of native material you will get there
solemn bay
Like if you have a specific exam you want to pass, and you take a class focused on that exam, it helps you know all the specifics of how to pass it.
pastel terrace
I feel like if I get to B2 through courses and that sort then take some time to go to Germany for my summer to prep for C1 is a decent shout
That is quite expensive though which is the problem
fallen roost
Be careful with that though, each step takes much more time then the last
tropic edge
I passed the exam in like 9 months, going from A1 up to B2 at a language school in Berlin.
lilac orchid
damn how much did that cost
pastel terrace
B2 - C1 v hard? and damn
I saw some course in Berlin for 2100 euros
Intensive course A1-C1 supposedly with 120units but sounds like sham even tho its Goethe
solemn bay
Yes, B2 to C1 is basically the hardest one.
pastel terrace
Is it the sheer volume of vocab that makes it that hard?
fallen roost
Goethe is always very expensive yeah
solemn bay
Yes, vocab and just overall getting practice, getting a feel for the language, etc.
tropic edge
Then again I'm not amazingly great hence the B Tag, but I'm somewhat C1 Reading and listening wise. I paid 225 or so per month. It's definitely doable if you put in the work, because it comes down to how much effort you put in as everyone said up there.
fallen roost
Its a lot of things, but yeah vocab and geting comfortable
solemn bay
I don't think C1 exam is meant to be hard though. A lot of people say they can pass it even not really being C1.
But to actually be C1 by what you expect people to be able to do for that level is a lot of time and work.
tropic edge
C2 Goethe is Equal to the TestDaF 4444, at least in terms of registering for uni
fallen roost
For SURE. Tons of people at my uni passed the exam and I wouldnt even say they are B2
pastel terrace
You at a german uni?
fallen roost
Testdaf especially, if you prepare very specifically for testdaf you should have pretty good chances
Yeah
tropic edge
I'm not, not yet😅
pastel terrace
Damn fair play to you, but I want to actually learn German more than anything not just to get C1 yknow
I do want to be prepped by 3rd year tho
fallen roost
Yeah then lots of talking
tropic edge
And get the textbooks for test practice
pastel terrace
Is C1-C2 an even bigger jump from B2-C1?
fallen roost
Hmmm. Yeah. It takes many years I think.
tropic edge
Fit für den TestDaF, TestDaF Training 2015
fallen roost
Well you are basically getting to the level of a native, which after C1 is mainly vocab. But soooo much vocab its unbelievable
tropic edge
The books drill you on some specific skills like that and not very language based, they're just test books.
sullen robin
Are you aiming specifically to get the certificate? I suppose classes are the best in the case to prepare yourself for what the test actually wants
pastel terrace
Well currently, yes
It is for 3 years from now tho
Im not even in college yet
So 4 I guess
fallen roost
Oh awesome
pastel terrace
Although this year studying will be hard since I have a v big exam at end
But I have plenty of time as of now
fallen roost
Where are you from?
pastel terrace
Ireland
fallen roost
Do you meet the requirements for german uni out of secondary education?
pastel terrace
Highlyy doubt it
tropic edge
Check anabin
fallen roost
I can get you a link hold on
fallen roost
pastel terrace
Its much longer this is a snippet but I feel like this is much lower than what is required
lemme see
fallen roost
Pick Irland there and then post it in a translator
Ohhh I dont mean German requirement, I mean education requirement in general
pastel terrace
Ohhhh I see what u mean
fallen roost
I was a senior in highschool with B1 and I got to get over here right after I left and go to Uni (had to skip one semester tho since I failed the exam once)
So maybe you could do something like that if youre eligible
tropic edge
I studied a levels and had to make sure i chose the right subjects for my uni
pastel terrace
How much is uni in Germany tho?
fallen roost
i went through a loophole that is closed now lol
Depends but on avg around 300-350 euros a semester
Im saving sooo much money by studying here
pastel terrace
University here is only 3000 a year at most and less with a grant
Jesus
2 semesters a year ?
or 4
fallen roost
The price?
pastel terrace
Yes
fallen roost
Yeah totally, I can look for the exact avg
fallen roost
fallen roost
What do you mean?
exotic barn
Hey y'all
fallen roost
Yeah
exotic barn
does anyone know about scholarships to study in DE? At undergrad level?
fallen roost
And my rent is 200 euros a month from the university apartments
exotic barn
There is DAAD or something like that
fallen roost
So thats also reaally nice
pastel terrace
you seem to be really living a handy life in germany with so little money
tropic edge
Where do you go to uni poluglottos? Welches Bundesland?
fallen roost
Sorry, I don't 😦
A lot of schools do Deutschlandstipendium though, for foreigners too, which is 300 euro a month
Uni Marburg in Hessen
pastel terrace
How quickly did ur German go from B1 to C1?
fallen roost
Hmm. I think from december 2017 to around august 2018
BUT, I have a german girlfriend, which helps a ton
Since I got to talk every single day in German
pastel terrace
damn you sorted
fallen roost
And I was in Germany from June 2018 until now
pastel terrace
im jealous
fallen roost
It all happened so quickly lol she was a exchange student in my school
fallen roost
Haha
Should definitely be possible for you though, if you are eligible and are willing to really dedicate yourself to it
I love it so much over here. Would never go back
pastel terrace
So even for a foreigner like me itd cost like 700 euro a year. I just find that so hard to believe. I 100% am, just gotta get in I'd say
lmao homesickness very much gone
I thought Ireland was cheap when I compare us to America where its like 15k a year
fallen roost
Yes, same price for foreigners (at most unis at least. I am sure there are some weird regions where that is not the case)
pastel terrace
Germany is a good country
How did u find it when u first arrived tho
Being B1
with a load of natives doing a uni course
fallen roost
Ok so, I got to go to Germany for one month when I was 16 before I spoke any German (with my girlfriend), and I absolutely loved it - still dont know why
When I got there I had no idea what it would be like and by the time I was leaving I was already sure I would try to make it work. So I told everyone i'd be back in a year and I somehow did it
In lectures? Its pretty normal, was hard making friends kinda at first but I understood (mostly) everything
pastel terrace
Sounds like it went smooth
fallen roost
Not smooth but it went lol
pastel terrace
I looking at LMU which sounds ideal for the course and haha well u did it at least
fallen roost
Yeah if a complete dumbass like me can do it anyone can
fallen roost
In Marburg you can get accepted with anything above A2 and then they give you two semesters to take german courses
What do you want to study?
fallen roost
Ayyye Im in CS
fallen roost
Haha CS is easy to get into in Germany, there are never requirements unless its an elite uni
Should we move to private chat maybe?
pastel terrace
If you wouldnt mind please
exotic barn
I wouldn’t say TestDaF 4444 is anywhere equivalent to C2 though. I was an ok B2 when I sat it this summer and I got 4443
tropic edge
But exam wise, TestDaF 4444 is like the same Goethe exam C2 to universities, that's what I meant. Take from that what you will of course.
molten hearth
Well some unis only accept c2 
pastel terrace
huhh
really
thats bit dirty of em
if u doing medicine fair enough
but like otherwise
u definitely dont need c2
danke! @molten hearth
tropic edge
C2 for the CEFR is different from the C2 in Goethe exams
exotic barn
Hmm I will be sitting the C1 exam in Feb / March and I will see how it compares to TestDaF
exotic barn
But I wouldn’t recommend TestDaF. Just based on the fact it takes 6 weeks to get results and also the fact you have to repeat entire test even if you only want to improve your grade in one category. All the other examinations give you results in a matter of days which is how it should be given the cost involved.
tropic edge
What does it mean when tickets for a show are eingeschränkte Verfügbarkeit? They are not ausverkauft, does that mean that they are unavailable now but will be later?
foggy prism
it could either mean that there’s only a limited supply left, or that only specific people can buy them
late ocean
Hey! I'd like to open up a bank account here in Germany, any recommeded banks I should go to to do so?
exotic barn
Kreissparkasse?
warped atlas
What do you wanna do, and what are you doing in Germany? @late ocean
late ocean
student
warped atlas
If you‘re American, and a student it‘s best to ask @fair talon since he‘s experienced with blocked accounts
late ocean
im studying for a good 4+ years hopefully
warped atlas
And unfortunately for Americans, you guys have to open through Deutsche Bank, I think...but Jake knows more
If you only use the bank for Germany, and not for traveling, the regular Sparkasse is good enough, but I‘m not sure on the blocked account part as a foreign student
Otherwise, open online banks in Germany, like DKB, Comdirect, N26 or Ing-Diba
late ocean
im not american - im indonesian and I've already gotten my blocked account open as I've already arrived in germany not too long ago
warped atlas
So what do you want? I can‘t help you more, if you don‘t specify what your requirements with the banks are.... (yes, I‘m Indonesian too)
late ocean
Ahh okee.
lemme be be more specific.
So I all i require now is to open up a bank account for typical use and for fintiba (my blocked account) can be attached to it
Im looking for good options that are accessible, user friendly, doesn't ask too much for fee or the sort
warped atlas
I‘m not familiar with Fintiba unfortunately...can you draw money with their card anywhere?
Are they „officially“ a bank? I googled, and an old article in March says they‘re not, and working together with a partner bank
late ocean
Fintiba is an organization that helps deal with your blocked account money
That's beside the point, the point is that I'd like a good back to have an account in
I have been looking around and would jus tlike opinions
warped atlas
User friendliness, I‘d recommend N26 for daily usage, since the App is goddamn fast and really user friendly. Otherwise I‘d recommend Comdirect.
The latter has more options as well, like opening an investment or opening a Tagesgeldkonto. They are also more „Mature“ in comparison with N26
DKB is supposedly good as well, but I personally have no experience
N26 has the disadvantage of only having 5 times withdrawal from any Geldautomat within Germany for a month.
Comdirect draws for free always from Commerzbank branches
Online banks are free of monthly charge
warped atlas
More on bank comprison, look at https://www.deutscheskonto.org/de/
Or go to www.finanztip.de for a more detailed explanation on stuff
late ocean
Thank you again
warped atlas
Bitte
fair talon
Shoot, sorry I missed this while it was happening lol
Yeah, Deutsche Bank is the worst. Avoid them like the plague (Good news is, apparently Expatrio accepts Americans, so I went with them for the blocked account)
I'm currently using Expatrio as my "blocked account" for the visa, and N26 as my day-to-day account, so I can help with questions about those if you have any @late ocean
regal merlin
I'm not sure where else to ask this, so I thought I'd ask all of you: I'm going to be studying abroad in Germany in March and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about phone plans? I'm from the United States and don't know what my option are when it comes to this. I have an Iphone.
humble bough
@regal merlin , the big providers are Vodafone, T-Mobile, and O2, but compared to your plan in the US they're probably overpriced (especially when it comes to data, which is comically expensive and shitty here). You can get cheaper plans from resellers (basically anywhere else that advertises phone plans tbh). However, resellers pretty much are all selling plans on O2's network, which is famously bad anywhere outside the city, so depending where you are, you might have to splurge for Vodafone or T-Mobile
re: your iPhone, check if it's locked to your US carrier. if it is you have to get it unlocked or buy a new phone for it to work with a SIM card from another carrier.
regal merlin
I believe it is currently locked by Verizon. I could go try and get it unlocked, or do you think the best option is to not use cellular at all and just use wifi? While I'm in Germany (for almost 6 months), I would like to be traveling whenever possible which probably makes it more difficult.
fair talon
As far as a bit of quick research goes, Verizon shouldnt give too much trouble (apparently they unlock phones 60 days after purchase)
The good news is that if youre in the city, most transit stops have wifi, so it wouldnt be a huge deal. I use a low end prepaid for mine because Im rarely far from wifi (uni, home and the metro all have it)
(I think pre iPhone 6 might give you trouble if it was originally carrier locked, but 6 or higher should be okay)
regal merlin
If you don't mind me asking, how much does a "low-end" prepaid phone cost?
fair talon
Prepaid phone or prepaid phone plan? 😅
Im using my unlocked Galaxy I got back in the States with a prepaid phone plan
humble bough
I can't imagine being able to survive 6 months without data on my phone but that's just me -- I bought a new Galaxy when I moved with my leftover travel money from my stipend
but I had to buy a new phone and get a plan because AT&T is trash
and I'm here for 2-3 years min
do metro stations all have wifi? I've never noticed but I've also never checked
fair talon
Not 100% sure, but in Hamburg at least, basically all the Ubahn ones do
A lot of the buses here have wifi too
regal merlin
That’s pretty awesome. I will be in Bremen. So let me get this straight, the best way to probably do it would be to get my iPhone unlocked and then buy a phone plan over there and change the Sim?
fair talon
If its a new enough model, yeah. Theres guides online that let you check if your specific version can.
How long will you be studying abroad? If its less than a year, I'd probably reccomend going with a prepaid Sim card and just refilling that
For an idea of the pricing, here's the current prices for Lidl's prepaid (I use them for my card because you can literally just buy more credit whenever you go for groceries 🤷 you can go with network specific ones as well, they all use the same 3 or so networks )
regal merlin
I will be studying for nearly 6 months. This is honestly really helpful, thank you!
Just curious, will these plans work outside of Germany? Example: If I travel to Czech (to visit a friend) or to Spain.
humble bough
generally, yes
if you leave the EU it gets iffier, but afaik they have to work within the EU
warped atlas
Because of the Fair Use Policy enacted since 2017, all carriers are pretty much usable inside of the EU without changing cards, and there are no roaming charges @regal merlin
Disclaimer: still, check with your provider
regal merlin
I'm going to go to my carrier tomorrow and see what they can do for me. Thank you everyone!
tight kelp
yes, they are obligated to charge nothing extra inside the EU and they have to work EU-wide. If they offer free SMS or call minutes though, they might limit those to German numbers
true linden
Guten Abend. Ich komme aus Algerien aus tiziouzou
dreamy lynx
Germany: any idea when I can expect my health insurance card/number/any kind of insurance confirmation after my employer registered me for public health insurance?
Also, does anyone have some experiences with DAK? I wanted to sign up for TK, but my employer said they don't do the paperwork for them, so I had to settle for DAK... Had I known, I would've registered myself in advance.
amber perch
is HSBC good in Germany
tight kelp
TK, but my employer said they don't do the paperwork for them
this doesn't sound right. Not a lawyer or anything but TK is an Ersatzkasse and as such I don't think they can discriminate. All they have to do is transmit your data to them anyway. You should wait for an opinion from someone who knows more than me, but I'd look into the matter.
once you're registered it can take a couple weeks to get the card. If it takes a month or more, contact them because it can often happen that the post fails to deliver it (it happened to me with insurance stuff more than once, and with banks too)
exotic barn
Hey guys. Can anyone recommend me a really good computer science degree program in Germany? If possible also one that would accept TestDaF 4443 or B2 certificate as as I already have this? I’m spending a lot of time on trying to reach C1 in time for applying to a uni in Zurich but it means I have less time to work extra hours to save up for 3 years of a degree. Can anyone recommend me a good place to go? I don’t mind where just once the program is really good
tropic edge
You have enough time to hit that tho if you are going to apply next October right?
Or do you mean for the summer semester?
heady crane
@dreamy lynx as far as I know (I am from Germany) you can chose your health insurance yourself.
you can tell your employer which insurance you want.
dreamy lynx
Yeah, I've just gone to a DAK office and it seems they still haven't been contacted by my employer, so I think I'm going to register with TK and inform the employer about that. I also thought it was shady.
exotic barn
Yep I have until September to submit my C1 exam certificate (if I pass it) but it’s a huge drain on my time to put the hours in to go from B2 to C1, and the extra pressure is kinda stressful. I think I will set up a plan B uni that takes TestDaF with 4443
ashen mirage
Can I work on weekends as a studienkolleg student in germany?
Please help as there are many confusing answers on the web 🙂
fair talon
It depends more on your visa type than your school type
If you're in the country on a Language Learning Visa (Sprachkursvisum), I don't believe theres work allowed. A Student Visa (Studiunvisum) allows a limited amount of work.
I believe Studienkolleg is usually a Studiunvisum (Student Visa), so some work should be allowed. Never hurts to ask the local Aüslanderbehorde though 👀
ashen mirage
Thank you @fair talon
celest umbra
@dark willow might be better to ask this question here.
So I think it differs a bit between the different Bundesländern. But basically after 4th grade people get separated into either of those schools. Which schools you can attend depends on your average grade in year 4.
Hauptschule is up to year 9/10 and with the diploma from there you cannot attend university. So most people will do apprenticeships afterwards and that's why there are already more practical courses taught (like woodworking, "real life" finance etc.)
Realschule is up to year 10. And you have the option to also do an apprenticeship right after or you can attend a Fachoberschule to get an Abitur (diploma that allows you to go to university) in either 2 years (then it is an Abitur specialising in a certain topic like social work, finance or such) or in 3 years (then you get the Allgemeine Hochschulreife/Abitur that allows you to study everywhere). With the specialised Abitur you can only study at Fachhochschulen and only in programs that fit to your Abitur specialisation. Fachhochschulen are like universities just with more focus on the practical side of things.
In the Gymnasium you study for either 8 or 9 years (depending on the Bundesland but also on the school) so up to year 12/13. When finishing Gymnasium you get the Abitur and can attend any university or Fachhochschule.
tight kelp
that's a nice explanation
dark willow
@celest umbra Danke sehr ✨
exotic barn
does anyone have any recommended weichnachtsmarkts in niedersachsen?
im free until tuesday but all of the travel websites recommend bigger cities
tame forum
Guys a small question for TK insurance. Do they cover prescription glasses
My numbers have increased and cant see properly =(
heady crane
@exotic barn Celle was quite nice in earlier times.
exotic barn
tomorrow i will visit goslar, and someone invited me to lübeck on sunday; are markts open on sundays too?
tight kelp
@tame forum only starting from certain values
not sure exactly how much though, so just ask them
odd bison
@exotic barn they should be yeah
tame forum
@tight kelp my numbers r high af. Around 4.5 and 5. I hope they cover 😪
I will ask them when they open on monday
heady crane
exotic barn
My opinion is propaganda
Sorry kay i would listen but you are trying to make me believe something, so you're opinion is propaganda.
(just kidding i found it funny the way he defined propaganda)
amber perch
propaganda isn't inherently a bad thing
exotic barn
visited goslar today, it was so beautiful and the atmosphere was so cozy obwohl it rained the whole time i felt so warm
though the markts do love to vacuum my scholarship, might work a couple days again
lapis thunder
hi i have questions about the application process for bachelor to german universities anyone can help please
lapis thunder
@tropic edge ok so most universities ask fo international baccalaurate when applying to bachelor programs , this year in lebanon i think the results of the exams will be delayed post the deadline so is there anyway i gan get admission before hand
tropic edge
I'm afraid you're going to have to ask the university in question about that.
It really depends on the situation but most universities have strict rules about that. In my case, I could apply with a statement of results (not an actual certificate), if my certificate hasn't come out yet ( I stuided A levels) but a letter of my predicted grades wouldn't be enough.
lapis thunder
@tropic edge i actually emailed the university but the answer wasnt enough so my point is if i can submit my average shcool grades and before enrollement i can submit my ib
tropic edge
What do you mean the answer wasn't enough? Like they said the grades won't be enough or did it not satisfy/answer your question?
lapis thunder
no they sent links but the links were broken so i asked again and they told me to read the rest of application guide i did but nothing covered the topic
its actually the technical university of munich if someone know how to go through the comlicated application process
tame forum
Call them. Tum is good with replying on calls
pastel terrace
Does anyone know if EU Health Insurance is supplement to the German insurance?
I have a EU health insurance card
deep vessel
I'm not sure what you mean by 'suppmented to'
pastel terrace
substitute *
Sorry
Can I use EU health insurance rather than get german insurance
I have EU health insurance already and it costs me nothing
German insurance costs a fair bit for a student afaik and if I could do without that, happy days
deep vessel
do you have an EHIC card?
pastel terrace
well ill scribble all info
just leave top part
that says European Health Insurance Card and has IE
deep vessel
still no need to send it. it's not like we random strangers on the internet need proof of it
pastel terrace
Well true but im unsure if its the right card
anyways lets take it as it is
Can I use that rather than german insurance ?
deep vessel
the short answer unfortunately is it depends
deep vessel
your provider in your home country and what you intend to do in the host country e.g. work and study or just study etc etc
pastel terrace
I see so would you recommend I ring up the institution that issued me the card and ask if it covers me for work and study in Germany?
Or is that more to do with the host country or state I stay in
deep vessel
i recommend calling your home insurance provider. though honestly if you intend to work in germany, german health insurance is probably better. maybe i'm unlucky, but the institutions i've interacted with have been a bureaucratic nightmare in regards to foreign insurance.
pastel terrace
I don't have life insurance afaik(except for EU health insurance). I do intend to only work part time however would that still cause a nightmare
deep vessel
it really does depend on your insurance you've already got and your home country
pastel terrace
I'll have to call the provider for my EHIC card then and follow up. Thankyou!
grand swan
Hi guys so I have a question
Where can you get those jeans short? Problem is that it's summer so idk where to find them. I also want ones in black
Something like this but in black
What stores sell this kind of stuff in the winter in germany?
fair talon
In the winter? Going to be pretty hard to find those stocked anywhere when its almost 0° outside 😅
pastel terrace
i dont live in germany but id say just go online and try order em
clothes like that in winter for most shops is a waste to stock
deep vessel
in some locations that almost means it's below zero
fleet parrot
hello guys, do we have a real ranking for Hochschulen in Deutschland or that's just the marketing from.those. unis?
foggy prism
I mean there’s various world-wide rankings conducted by different organziations
they’re honestly pretty meaningless for students though
like, they affect you once you’re doing your phd but not really before, beofre that you have other priorities
(namely, good courses and teachers)
odd bison
@grand swan asos, amazon
dusty talon
@grand swan have you tried Primark?
exotic barn
Has any one availed of the DAAD scholarships? How much do they give per month/semester?
They offer them for study in Germany afaik
sour geode
Hallo Leute
humble bough
@exotic barn I have a DAAD stipend for master's students and I get 850€ a month (plus however much their free insurance and other benefits are worth), plus ~700€ at the beginning and end of my studies for travel costs. I don't know how much they give bachelor students but I know stipends for PhD students are a few hundred euros higher
exotic barn
awesome, thanks for that Sparksbet!
sadly I am going for bachelor now but hopefully this scholarship will still hold for the master's
heady crane
@grand swan I think the 501 High Rise Shorts Schwarz is near your ideas, but is not that ripped.
grand swan
@heady crane thank you!
heady crane
@grand swan additional comment: when it is not ripped enough, take a razorblade and there you go. I did this as well and it looked alright.
grand swan
@heady crane thank you! Lol i just like them tight and really short
Need to lose weight first though
😭
heady crane
@grand swan You will make this, I am sure.
Good luck.
grand swan
💙 @heady crane
tropic edge
Guys, has anyone applied to NC course before? I have a few questions about that. My papers got through uni-assist and they said it was okay and they've sent it to my uni of choice. Now what? A little searching tells me that I'll only get to find out if I'm in is middle February. Is this really how it is? TU Berlin is the uni btw
fair talon
For a program starting in Fall 2020? That sounds about right. I found out on the last day of February for mine
Might actually be a bit early. I know a lot of other universities are still taking applications by that time
lilac orchid
i think he is talking about summer semester
tropic edge
Yeah, I should have mentioned that. I'm applying for the summer semester.
I am supposed to be Bewerbungsgruppe C
fair talon
Ah, no idea about Summer 🤷🏻♂️
Usually its __ amount of time after applications are closed though for most programs? I think usually 4-8 weeks after the application deadline
tropic edge
Aha, that confirms it then. Thank you so much Jake!
cloud anchor
Can anyone help me with abi stuff, when does it start and hows the whole process of signing in? I wanna retake math cuz im not happy with my results from Croatia
humble bough
my parents sent me a christmas package but the DHL guy is asking for 63€ Zoll for it... does anybody know if this is disputable? or do I have to just pay it
foggy prism
(no answer just a general fuck DHL for international shipping sentiment)
humble bough
my instinct is that my parents overdid how much they sent me / how detailed they were on the customs slip
so DHL feels the need to crack down now 😒
hidden briar
DHL doesn't control what the Zoll does, they just transport the package
foggy prism
yea but they also charge a flat fee just for crossing a border, at least into switzerland
20 euro minimum
humble bough
well, it wasn't shipped through DHL until it got to germany afaik; my parents shipped it through USPS
exotic gorge
Yeah, it sounds like your parents put retail value on the customs form instead of the lowest possible price. Personal items should be marked no more than $20 in value unless you want a hefty customs fee.
I don't think there's a way to dispute the customs price.
icy mist
yeah definitely never put retail value for gifts in the future
humble bough
yeah, I let my parents know so they can not do this in the future
wooden wadi
Would it be worth moving from the U.S. to Salzburg?
tacit crystal
how do germans (and rest of dach) celebrate christmas? like advent and christmas eve etc. i cant find much info. although i found a lot on Krampus and Nikolaustag. i found it quite interesting that presents are opened on christmas eve instead of christmas day.
fair talon
@wooden wadi "worth it" in what sense?
The Germany subreddit has a nice summary on some key differences between daily life in the US vs Germany. Might be helpful for your question. https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/living/why
foggy prism
@tacit crystal So I can tell you what we do here in Switzerland.
Advent calendars are an integral part. My village even does a thing where every day of december, a family decorates a window and offers cookies and stuff.
Baking cookies is also a very important family activity, and there are a lot of traditional christmas cookies.
Christmas eve is when you celebrate with your nuclear family. Good food, presents etc. Children are told of the Christkind (baby jesus) bringing presents. In my family they magically appear under the tree while the family is at mass.
The following days there are generally more celebrations with more distant family
wooden wadi
@fair talon Idk. What are the biggest differences? Would it be worth the expenses and all the work to transfer paperwork?
tame forum
Guys can someone tell me how much does it cost on avergae to make eye glasses (spectacles) in germany? I dont want raybans or anything. And my eye numbers are around -4.50 and 5.0
Ps. Whats the least it can go?
Bitte pingt mich.
edgy crest
I think you could also get rly basic ones for free - with your health insurance
Otherwise I dont know
fair talon
@wooden wadi Sorry, somehow I'm only more confused now 😅
'What are the biggest differences?'
The biggest differences in what? The link I posted has the biggest differences in Health, Work, Education, Finances and Daily life. If theres something else, you'll need to be more specific.
'all the work to transfer paperwork'
I mean, the paperwork was a little annoying, but not world-endingly so, so I'm not sure how that would factor into your decision. I got 99% of it done in one month-ish, and the rest was only done later because the wait for the physical permit was two or so months.
'Would it be worth the expenses'
Honestly, thats more of a personal question for you to decide on your own, because it will vary depending on the lifestyle you want to live, how much possessions you want to bring with you, and stuff like the weight you place on your end paycheck vs other benefits.