#archived-culture-study-visa

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faint plaza
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Lmao

tropic edge
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And it also needs to have Summer semester

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I don't really want to wait a whole other year til next winter intake

tame forum
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Rwth aachen is good and on the country side. And C1 german to get entry. But all international students now also have to give Test As as an IQ test for entrance. @tropic edge
Tu munich is in Munich so expensive

And btw FH= the studies are morr practical based compared to Uni/TU where its more theoretical. FH have connections with companies and the tjingsy they teach you and the assignments they give you are more industry related. They are also said to be more like School. As in you will need to have cumpolsury attendance and i guess they are more supportive in general, compared to uni where they dont give a fuck whether u come or no or whether u book ur exams or any thing like that.

tropic edge
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Wait I need to give testAS as well? What even?

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I thought that was for those who don't qualify for direct access

tame forum
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Also FH bachelors and Uni bachelors are at the same level in the eyes of the law, no difference there. But i have read that some older people may have judgements against FH graduates since at their time FH could only give diplmomas and unis were considered at a higher tier. But at present FH students are sought in companies where they dont want to spend resources on training students. Since the studies are already practical oritented.

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@tropic edge no. Afaik only rwth aachen

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Not all

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Most dont

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I was considering rwth until i read that. Since no test as in dunai

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*dubai

tropic edge
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Yeah I've researched and come up with the same, but master options and phd options for FH students are not that alluring

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Phd is out of the question, AFAIK

tame forum
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Yah for PhD. N i have read sometimes unis are shady and will rekect Fh bachelor graduates who want to go for uni masters. And since they are at the same level in the eyes of the law. They cant state ur FH background as a reason for rejection

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But nonetheless all unis are different

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Sometimes u can jus finish the credits before joining the uni

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Sometimes straight up reject

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Depends how communicative the uni is and the programe

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@tropic edge no i domt think its out of the question. I have read onlinr of people who did bachelors in Fh and have indeed done Phds. But thats not a recommended path

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Depends again on the uni and ur luck whether they give u a place for phd

tropic edge
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Yeah, it's not an option my parents would agree with. I would have been through uni a while back if I joined FH, but my parents convinced me otherwise.

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They told me train in your field and have the theory, you never know when your interests might shift or change.

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Kinda agreed and didn't have any better idea, so yeah

tame forum
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Makes sense

tropic edge
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I'll try to join anything that opens up in the summer semester for Maschinenbau. So far I've only looked into Dresden and Berlin but need to sort of expand my scope of search and visit the cities when possible

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I know that both have summer semesters

tame forum
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Check beaunschweig

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*Braunschweig

tropic edge
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I'll look it up, thanks!

amber perch
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Are Goethe Institute German courses good?

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Also Im planning to go to Germany to work after 4 years when I obtain my PhD
I am a beginner, so what CEFR level should I aim to have by then?

molten hearth
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Depends highly on your teacher and group

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In 4 years you could even reach c2 if you work hardšŸ˜„

amber perch
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But I have a PhD to do so I'll have to be realistic

tight kelp
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you can find work with as little as B1, or even A0 if you find work in english (which is possible if you have a PhD, but depends a lot on the field). If you want to study further, at that level there are English courses even in German unis, but German ones will require at least C1 (plus all the relevant jargon of the field).

amber perch
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So I should aim for B1?
My field is in Biomedical Sciences

tight kelp
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if you have 4 years time, you can comfortably aim for C1

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or more

amber perch
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I thought you need full immersion for that

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or else youll be surrounded by non-speakers

tight kelp
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with the internet, as long as you develop a good method and don't slack off, you don't need to live there

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for reference, i have never set foot on a country where english is natively spoken

solemn bay
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You may definitely have some gaps without the benefits of immersion, but once you move there, you will be able to fill in those gaps. Being almost C1 is close enough to being C1, for the purposes of moving and working there.

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But many people get C1 certification without immersion anyway.

amber perch
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You guys seem to have high expectations

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Guess i need to change my mentality

solemn bay
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I mean, there are a lot of variables to learning a language. Some people go from A1 to C1 in a year, some people take 10 years. But in a general sense, 4 years is more than enough time for someone to get to C1 if they are studying regularly.

molten hearth
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They are realistic don’t worry, no false hoping šŸ™‚

amber perch
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I mean like 1 lesson a week from the goethe institute
and not some intense language course
Because I gotta focus on my research for my PhD

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I will try

solemn bay
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If you feel you're someone who can self-study, I'd even say you can study on your own up to B2 before doing courses, if that sounds like something you'd be interested in.

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I mean, you can get to C2 with self-study, but obviously trying to juggle your time with a phd is hard when you get to more difficult content.

tight kelp
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i'm not one to learn from courses myself, but one lesson a week can be ok if you supplement it with self-learning, especially practice. If all the activity you do in the language is that one lesson a week, ten years wouldn't suffice for b2

solemn bay
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That's a good point.

amber perch
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Gotta do your homework

tight kelp
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conversely, a total of say, just 3 hours a week of grammar study with some 10 minutes a day of practice would yield so much better results that it would really be a waste to do the bare minimum

amber perch
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Im currently using duolingo so Ill have to at least practice a bit every day

tight kelp
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many seem to have an attitude of "i'll let the teachers learn me the language", which is a trap.

amber perch
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thanks

compact slate
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Hey! A question, if I open an N26 bank account

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How do I deposit money?

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I saw you can do it in DM?

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But how much can you deposit in one go?

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And can I pay with it before the card arrives?

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Please @ me

tame forum
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@tropic edge has N26 acc

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maybe he knows

tropic edge
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I have been awaken from my slumber, who asks of N26?

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@compact slate what you mean deposit money into the account? Like cash?

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I don't think thats possible, haven't tried honestly. You get money sent into your account from a blocked account if you're a student, and money sent into your account from your job.

compact slate
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@tropic edge yes, I have no other way

tropic edge
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You can send money to yourself through bank transfer

compact slate
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I don't have a blocked account

tropic edge
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But why would you do thay anyway, I'm aware you're a student

compact slate
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I don't think I want one

tropic edge
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Have you gotten your visa?

compact slate
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I have a citizenship

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I don't need a visa

tropic edge
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Aha

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You can let people send you money, you've got an IBAN and swift code

compact slate
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Is the transfer instant?

tropic edge
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Wait lemme check if you can physically put money into your account

compact slate
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I read somethjng about Cash26 but I don't know anyone who did it

tropic edge
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Yeah cash26 Germany, Austria Italy

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SEPA transfer all regions

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Or requesting monney from a friend

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You wanna give me 15€ to go get some food? I'll giv ya my ref code

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@compact slate

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I can send you screens from the app's help section

compact slate
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My question is how much cash can I transfer with cash26

tropic edge
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That I have no idea about, you'll have to send N26 an email or get in touch with their customer service.

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They're really fast

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And/or send cash26 an email or call them

compact slate
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I will thanks :)

tropic edge
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No problemo

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He didn't take my ref code :(

compact slate
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Sorry I have a friend that wants me to use his haha

tropic edge
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Rip, mans gotta get that bread somehow kudos to your friend

compact slate
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Are you gonna go to TUB? @tropic edge

tropic edge
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Maybe, sufficientmonk suggested it. Do they have Maschinenbau B.sc.?

tame forum
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Yup

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And its alao tu 9

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And part of excellence initiative

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Idk how much of a difference it makes at bachelors level tho

tropic edge
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I'll check it out definitely

tame forum
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Btw go thru all tu9 unis

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U r doing test daf so ur at an adv

tropic edge
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I'm just knee deep in prep for TDAF, so I am either procrastinating or studying

tame forum
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If u score 4 in all u can go in any uni

compact slate
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I'm starting Informatik there in October

amber perch
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I heard that although N26 is very popular

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they can randomly block your account

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and you cant withdraw

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Not sure if its true

tropic edge
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Thats the dream 4 in all

compact slate
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I did 2 testdafs

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Wasn't fun

tropic edge
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I haven't had any issues with it honestly. Most people who write that make me feel like they are doing really shady stuff @amber perch

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Oded help me out then my dude

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Good resource or any tip

royal badger
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i am interested in to know how was your test , i am writing the dsh test in december

compact slate
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The speaking part is known beforehand the question types not the subject

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So just have template sentences for each question

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Don't waste too much time on a question, if you get stuck go tk another one and go back after you finish

tropic edge
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And the listening parts?

warped atlas
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@amber perch I also am using N26, am not using it other than getting my money from work, transfer to Transferwise or to my second online account.

tropic edge
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Any resources you could recommend, like on YouTube or something

warped atlas
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Am also non-EU, and non-US

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Not sure what those guys backgrounds are

amber perch
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i heard that you should have a backup account from another bank if you use N26

warped atlas
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Well, I have three bank accounts in Germany....sooo....

compact slate
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Listening is what scared me the most because you are limited to 1 time and 2 times on the harder one

warped atlas
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Four if you count Transferwise

compact slate
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Ut i got 4 twice

warped atlas
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?

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Listening is done twice....

tropic edge
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That's neat!!

warped atlas
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Mine did

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I had DSH tho

tropic edge
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I pm'd you whenever you can get back to me ā¤

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@compact slate

fair talon
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Reading back. Yeah, N26 is flashy, but a bit sketchy. Theyve been flagged by inspectors for a lot of security issues

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You can use em as a spending money account, but I wouldnt make it your main bank account.

amber perch
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What banks are good for main aƧcounts

warped atlas
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If you don’t mind the monthly fee, the established Volksbank, Sparkasse would do the trick

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If you still want to have an online bank, the more established online bank would be Comdirect and DKB (there is also no monthly fee)

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And for the record, my ā€œmainā€ bank account is N26, which I use to pay bills as well and transfer stuff. So money keeps on flowing in and flowing out....so also my ā€œspending moneyā€ account

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šŸ˜

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But the one I use to save emergency money and for investment etc, I use a second online bank for that

amber perch
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That seems complicated

warped atlas
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I think banks like Commerzbank would also waive their fees if you use their bank as your ā€žmain accountā€œ (see, this is why I want to emphasize it) which means you have to put in money more than €1000 a month (which usually means you use their account to receive your salary)

amber perch
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So for the monthly fees, they will be waived if you have a high enough salary?

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Im thinking of using HSBC

tight kelp
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it depends on the account itself, every bank offers a bunch of them

warped atlas
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Just need to read the fine print on that, @amber perch

amber perch
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I see

ebon python
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Hallola

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Lleleleelel

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What am i doing in a...... i dont know ich dachte das is deutsch hier lol

crimson arch
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Hallo

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Wie geht es euch?

desert token
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moving to Berlin in October
preparing myself to look for places there. would renting through a real state agency be more headache-free than directly with landlords?

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in general

tropic edge
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Are you a student?

desert token
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no, going to work there

fair talon
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I mean, as a rule theyre usually easier than searching on your own (thats what youre paying for after all). Your budget is what it comes down to I believe

desert token
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maybe I'm using wrong terminology
there are some websites that list apartments, and they seem to manage the renting process etc

fair talon
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Oh, going with the apartment comllex company vs individual landlords.

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It sounded like you meant going with a third party agent who looks for places for you

desert token
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yes, more like that
I'm fine with looking for apartments myself

fair talon
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No idea about that 🤷 We'll see when the rest of the Germans get on

warped atlas
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Renting through that sort of agency is pretty okay

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One of my friends was able to stay at a pretty cheap room as he was finishing his Masterthesis, staying at a housing complex that was owned by such an Immobilienunternehmen

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Berlin is such a competitive are for housing, you better get every advantage you can get

limpid oyster
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how are tech bootcamps viewed by employers in Germany? are they common?

desert token
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@warped atlas thanks!

polar grove
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i love how the acronym for this channel is in three different languages

fair talon
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"WarumĀ einfach, wennĀ manĀ es kompliziert machenkann?"

foggy prism
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i love how the acronym for this channel is in three different languages
it’s not, though. D is from the German word, A and CH from Latin

desert token
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when moving cities within Germany do I need to do an Abmeldung or just an Anmeldung at the new city?

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ah just found the answer, no need to de-register

tight kelp
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it's called Ummeldung

desert token
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true, thanks

polar grove
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I had not realized that Austria is a Latin name

amber perch
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Is Germans being generally more xenophobic than your average human a myth

solemn bay
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Yes.

amber perch
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Good

solemn bay
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But some Germans will say that Germany is one of the countries in which people are less likely to interact with strangers, e.g. when just walking around on the street, so maybe that is rather what you are thinking of.

amber perch
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I've heard extreme stuff such as they value racial purity
Which is ?????????

solemn bay
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Nuh, there is no significant issue with that. Of course every country has people with extreme views, but it's not really different from other countries.

amber perch
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It's probably the country least likely to care about racial purity

tight kelp
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But some Germans will say that Germany is one of the countries in which people are less likely to interact with strangers, e.g. when just walking around on the street
that is not true though

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german elders especially are rather talkative in public if you so much as look like you can speak german

solemn bay
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Eh, I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying many Germans have said that.

tight kelp
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yeah i was countering the claim itself rather than you claiming it

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germans are more sociable than italians with strangers, even though italians normally seem to give off the opposite stereotype

solemn bay
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Okay, that's fair. I guess it's more informative to explain it like this anyway: the stereotype of Germans being xenophobic/racist is much more a stereotype people from other countries far from Germany will say. The stuff about socialization is a stereotype Germans would say about themselves, and perhaps some people can confuse the two ideas.

tight kelp
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and @amber perch , what you heard is most likely based on nazi germany, which was a long time ago and didn't end well. Whoever told you that is probably stuck on old prejudices, and either way doesn't know what they're talking about. Honestly from what I see from here, the USA are far, far more racist than Germany as a country

amber perch
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They're like we're the nazis from west Germany or east germany

exotic barn
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it is strange that one country can be so stereotyped by one political party

tight kelp
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what do you mean?

exotic barn
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NSDAP came to power because of specific conditions which were imposed on Germany after the Versaille treaties and WW1 humiliation. Not because of something wrong with german folk.

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but damn, I came here to practice german, probably should stick to that šŸ˜‰

tropic edge
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How would I go about acquiring a really really cheap laptop in Germany? Like below 50 Euros... Is that even possible? I just need like google chrome

thin osprey
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Look at some shops or best online

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gimme a sec

tropic edge
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Shops, obv not like media markt or something right?

thin osprey
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They might be cheap too

tropic edge
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50 euros is all I'm willing to pay :)

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199 is the lowest on Mediamark :(

soft spoke
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ebay?

tropic edge
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I'll look rn

thin osprey
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Can it be a used one?

tropic edge
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Yeah, anything as long as it's cheap.

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I just need it to get me connected faster. I don't even need a keyboard or mousepad, just working usb port

soft spoke
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maybe a cheap android tablet?

tropic edge
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Doesn't have the access I need, I'm working completely from my phone and its difficult to switch between tasks, so a laptop would suit me better

thin osprey
tropic edge
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Do people usually use eBay in Germany? I thought ebay Kleinanzeigen was the way to go

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I'll keep this up, until I find anything

thin osprey
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ebay Kleinanzeigen is like the less reliable way of buying stuff. Prices are like those on EBay, just people are rude and descriptions are severely lacking

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like this:
EBay: "Laptop mit i7-4770 CPU, 8GB RAM und Kartenleser, HP 250 G4"
EBay Kleinanzeigen: "schneller Laptop HP"

tropic edge
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Haahhaaa ja, I know what you're talking about

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I'll look on eBay as well, even though I might need something urgently than 3-4 days

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Are there services here that let you rent out laptops?

soft spoke
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there are internet cafes and some libraries have available computers, but I don't know of any laptop rental

dry nacelle
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in austria we have a second hand online market called willhaben.at
its really popular and well used/looked after
dont know if germany has something similar

soft spoke
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you can also use idealo.de to compare prices, maybe you can find something there

thin osprey
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Anything on idealo and geizhals is new and over 120€ though

soft spoke
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I didn't check myself šŸ˜… just throwing ideas

tropic edge
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:( you guys are sweethearts, no kidding

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I'll keep looking in these places till I see if I can snatch a deal

faint plaza
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@tropic edge how long do you want to rent the laptop?

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There are services to rent them

tropic edge
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Just 2 or 3 weeks max

faint plaza
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Okey gimme a sec

tropic edge
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Thanks Dex!!

faint plaza
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Grover is a site that rents them

tropic edge
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Are there other websites where I could compare prices?

faint plaza
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Gimme a sec

tropic edge
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I mean I'll take it, this is 32.90€ a month. I can live with that

faint plaza
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Those are the ones I found

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Grover is the only one I know stuff about tbh

tropic edge
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I'll go for it then

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Thanks again Dex!

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Ay I got it for 50% off using a code as well

faint plaza
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Ayyyy nice dude

tight kelp
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hey nice. Didn't know that was an option

tame forum
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in this day and age, how are these companies functioning? do people really end up finding themeselves w/o a computer so often that justifies their existence?

tight kelp
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evidently, yes. These things are born from addressing a niche necessity that everybody else ignored

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many people, like Eziome, need one just for a limited time. Others just need it once in a while. Some want to test a model to see if they want to buy it, some write reviews on them but don't want to buy each model just for that

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i can think of even more possible use-cases

fair talon
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Tourists who might wind up needing to fill out web forms or other office work while on vacation. That could easily account for them on its own

tame forum
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hmm.... makes sense.

tropic edge
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And dumbos like me who choose to ignore a necessary purchase that too

tame forum
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Btw how were u functioning w/o a laptop till now?

exotic barn
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desktop most likely

tropic edge
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Huehuehuehue... My laptop broke down like 2 or so months ago.

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For the past 2 months I'm working solely on my phone. I've actually gotten good at multitasking and finding ways to completely utilise my phone to do everything I normally need a pc for

tame forum
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dfuq

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thats hell

tropic edge
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Even down to playing videogames, ja es ist ein hard knock Leben

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Feel free to start a gofundme on my behalf

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XD

warped atlas
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Hmmm

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You want my Surface Pro?

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Damn old tho

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But itā€˜s also just collecting dust

soft spoke
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any recommendations on what to say as Gehaltsvorstellungen when applying for a Werkstudent part time job in Germany?

tropic edge
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Thanks a lot for the offer @warped atlas , I'm waiting right now on the laptop, should be on its way soon

warped atlas
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Check the online recommendation, but usually you would get somewhere between 750 to 1250 netto during your normal semester. and a lot more because of hourly rate in the summer @soft spoke

If you are going to work at some place like Bosch in BaWü, €1250 netto would be a quite high Gehalt, but reasonable for such a big company.

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Btw, as a student, you ā€ždonā€˜tā€œ pay taxes if you earn under €9000 a year. (Still have to declare taxes to get that paid taxes back though)

soft spoke
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thanks!

wraith geyser
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I'm researching youth hostels for a trip to Germany, and I've fallen down the rabbit hole of super cringy promotional videos for those youth hostels šŸ˜‚ it's amazing

tropic edge
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The laptop got picked up by DHL so it should be coming tomorrow

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How does one usually receive something like that? First time for me

tight kelp
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they ring, you open, they give you the parcel, sometimes you have to sign a thing, then they leave in a hurry because they're treated like shit and have to meet borderline irrealistic standards to get a shitty wage

tropic edge
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But nowhere did I give my address or anything like that...they only have the building number and that's it

tight kelp
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ok šŸ¤” no idea then

tropic edge
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And I don't want to miss it. I don't think they work on weekends so idk. I really want the laptop

tight kelp
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you must have provided them with a way to reach you or else how do you expect your laptop to happen about your location

tame forum
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he prolly means they didnt ask in the first place and he doesnt know how to go about giving them his onfo

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*info

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which i think happened on the laptop rental service's website.

tight kelp
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right but there's no way they sent a laptop without knowing where and to whom to deliver it

tame forum
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oh yahhh

tropic edge
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🤷 what one doesn't learn through first hand experience from someone else, learns it from his experience, first hand

tight kelp
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TIL: how not to get a laptop

vague brook
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they ring, you open, they give you the parcel, sometimes you have to sign a thing, then they leave in a hurry because they're treated like shit and have to meet borderline irrealistic standards to get a shitty wage

oh dear can the world get more real than this

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:DD

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most of the time they also dont talk to you because they are foreigners with A1 german

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some of them are trying to be sneaky and leave the parcel somewhere near your door to avoid eye contact

tropic edge
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Hahahahaa brzrkr

tight kelp
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khallo, pakett? Dange

vague brook
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chuldigom

tropic edge
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That'll be a fun experience nevertheless

tight kelp
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[awfully misspelled version of your name*]?

* you can tell it's misspelled even if they just say it aloud. It's that bad

vague brook
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i always try to tip them tho, especially if i order from amazon and they deliver at like 10pm lol

tropic edge
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I can get things delivered to me on an address I'm not registered at, right?

vague brook
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pretty sure yes, as long as you get them direct from them

tight kelp
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yeah it's not like they'll ask for your anmeldung papers

vague brook
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but i think they leave a piece of paper

tight kelp
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though if i were the delivery boi and i were sent to an address to give a parcel to someone whose name isn't anywhere to be found i'd be tempted to leave it there on the pavement, maybe piss on it a bit

tame forum
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pls dont ever be a delivery person lol

tropic edge
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fewm Eziome brzrkr

lucid valveBOT
tropic edge
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I dissed myself by mistake

tame forum
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nice

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this bot is fukin amzing

tropic edge
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You get the idea tho @tight kelp

faint plaza
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Did ya put ya name on the order and delivery page? @tropic edge

tight kelp
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kek

faint plaza
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Bin hier ootp

tropic edge
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Yeah they have my name

faint plaza
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Sooo?
They should find you lol

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I bet you even got a tracking link

vague brook
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yea like the owls from harry potter universum

tropic edge
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I hope

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Yeah I'll probably wait downstairs

faint plaza
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^

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Sounds good

vague brook
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wait by the door the whole day to not miss it

tropic edge
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Vahti, I'm the type of person to actually do that

tight kelp
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it's what i did when i was waiting for my sofa

faint plaza
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Lol hahahahah

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Berzi

vague brook
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well without a sofa i would probably sit by the door too

tight kelp
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at the time, the flat contained exactly nothing, so i was literally sitting on the ground with the face in my phone

vague brook
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by the plain lack of another option

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:D

tight kelp
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that sofa served as a bed for two people for two months

shut gorge
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(why didnt u add the number of your flat tho)

tropic edge
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I don't know how delivery works. Where I come from the delivery company calls you and sets a time and place. If they can't find you they'll call you again to see where you at.

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How will they come up to the flat without a key though?

shut gorge
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ah, fair enough

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they can just ring your door from outside the building, and you should have a button to be able to open the door for them in your flat (if its a modern building)

tropic edge
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Ah yes, that's definitely a good idea

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I'll see if I could do that now

shut gorge
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yep, good to be prepared šŸ‘ should feature a Gegensprechanlage so you know who's ringing

tropic edge
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I can only give my PLZ only

shut gorge
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hm?

tropic edge
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I can only receive it with Personalausweis

shut gorge
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the package? ive never had to show it

tropic edge
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That's what it says on the DHL email and the grover email

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Ident check

shut gorge
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well, in case you do need it, just put it somewhere you can easily reach it

tropic edge
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I'm going to camp outside the building whenever I get the notification that they've moved

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Better safe than sorryšŸ˜…

shut gorge
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when's the estimated arrival, i need an update on this tense situation

tropic edge
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Tomorrow, it says unterwegs

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When it starts moving I'm assuming it should say in Zustellung

faint plaza
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Jup

tropic edge
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This is the latest update!
Die Sendung ist in der Region des EmpfƤngers angekommen und wird im nƤchsten Schritt zur Zustellbasis transportiert.

warped atlas
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Is it coming today? Eziome?

tropic edge
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Yeah, it should be

tropic edge
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Any idea what is the latest time by which they could deliver? It's already 10:45😬

tight kelp
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probably around 18

tropic edge
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Okay that's cool, at least 7 more hours to go

tight kelp
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you're not really sitting by the door the whole time are you

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just leave a well-visible note with instructions for the delivery boy

warped atlas
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Shouldā€˜ve sent it to the DHL Filiale or to an automatic DHL lockerbox (?)

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Then you can take it at anytime you want, and the courier can also put it anytime he wants

tropic edge
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That's how I got an order before but it wasn't an option this time

tight kelp
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there are also pick-up spots you can select

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oh

warped atlas
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Itā€˜s annoying that the estimation says between 14-17, and the guy suddenly came at 1300

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Wtf

tropic edge
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I am almost sitting by the door

warped atlas
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I have plans, dude

tropic edge
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My only planning is getting that laptop right now hah

tight kelp
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so, you're standing by the door? xd

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@warped atlas dude my delivery window for my furniture from ikea was 7-22

warped atlas
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Lolol

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Even worse

tropic edge
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I've heard so many stories of people not getting their packages or stuff from DHL and I really don't have time to chase after that

tight kelp
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and they managed to not delivery it at all

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so i had to sit in an empty house the literal whole day twice

tropic edge
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Minimalism is nice tho

warped atlas
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My kinda life

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Minimalism, I mean

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But then you get to live with a partner

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And you get your whole world turned upside down

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And also not as nice when you wanna do some gathering at your house

tame forum
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Not if ur gathering is about teaching people how to be a minimalist.

exotic barn
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whats the best way to rent a room in a WG or a single apartment while being abroad? there are too many who want to meet in person

tame forum
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Yah its next to impossible.. U have to go there, live for a week or 2 in hotel/airbnb maybe more ..... And fix a house.

exotic barn
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And fix a house.

What does it mean?

a week or 2 in hotel/airbnb

Guess thats what i'm gonna do. But there are some issues with Meldeamt, when you need to register to make some documents or whatever

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Erlangen seems to be a quite difficult place to find a room...

molten hearth
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Autocorrected from find maybe

exotic barn
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ah ok

tight kelp
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nope, fix can also mean arrange or settle on something

amber perch
#

So everyone who will move to Germany will have to do that?

tropic edge
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Well, the package seems to be stuck in the place where packets are sorted-super not nice

tight kelp
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@amber perch the best strategy would be to stay at a friend's or get an airbnb. A longer-term solution like a WG or rented flat requires a german bank account, which requires a german address*, and the chances that someone would rent even a room in a wg without seeing the person are slim

* it's a horrible vicious circle that expats have to go through to live here. Luckily you can register your address even if you don't rent or own the place, meaning you can do it at an airbnb place, a friend's place, or even a hotel, which serves as the first "base of operations" to get started

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i had the luck of finding an absolutely lovely airbnb host who let me sub-rent the flat for a year and a half, and after that i was ready to move to a flat rented outright

amber perch
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thanks

tame forum
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Or to get ur bank account , use an online bank. They dont need ur address..... And were created specifically to get out of the loop berzi mentioned

fair talon
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ING-DIBA required a residence permit 🤷

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N26 might be different

tight kelp
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Or to get ur bank account , use an online bank. They dont need ur address..... And were created specifically to get out of the loop berzi mentioned
I had, in fact, tried to play that card but unfortunately my government is a meme and postident, which is a procedure by deutsche post that they use to verify identity, is borderline illegal in their only supporting one of the perfectly valid IDs issued by my country, so I couldn't do it :D

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second-class citizen because my id is not a plastic card yet

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i've had trouble with exactly the same thing for other stuff too

tropic edge
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How do I get a job at DHL? Anyone here has experience?

vague brook
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you google stellenangebote dhl and send them an email

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from what i see they need couriers in every city in the radius of 100km from where i live, so it shouldnt be that difficult to get a job there :P

tropic edge
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I'll get on it! It sounds really fun and they pay well at 13.37

tame forum
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U wouldnt need a driving licence or something?

faint plaza
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No.
Because Deutsche Post doesn’t only deliver big packages.
They have bikes for people that gonna deliver letters and stuff

tight kelp
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they probably pay drivers more for having driving licences but in general they need a lot of people, because it's kind of a shit job and people get out of it as soon as they can :D

vague brook
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Yea the personel rotation is huge

faint plaza
#

Yeah because DHL sucks ass

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They pay shit

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And in return you have to work like a maniac

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Barely making a living

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I respect the people who do it

tight kelp
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I think all delivery companies suck in the same way. Jobs like these or in logistics (think amazon) are in dire need of trade unions, but since most jobs are seasonal it wouldn't really work in the traditional way

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so basically they're left out in the cold and the companies profit on the back of the lowest tier of workers

tropic edge
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Die Zustellung der Sendung verzƶgert sich. Sie erfolgt voraussichtlich am nƤchsten Werktag.

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Got this at 13:15

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Will it come today or MondayšŸ¤”

dry nacelle
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if you got that today, then monday

tropic edge
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Sad reacts onlyšŸ™

dry nacelle
#

unless they count saturday a Werktag, thats not always clear. but probably not

foggy prism
#

at least here they’d say Werktag oder Samstag

amber perch
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Do people normally work on saturdays

dry nacelle
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depends on where they work

amber perch
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i see

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are most people here doing something related to CS?
are there any scientists working in a lab?

warped atlas
#

Iā€˜m gonna be working tomorrow @amber perch

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But itā€˜s some extra mile stuff, that would get me promoted sooner

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And Iā€˜m working at home with my own laptop

amber perch
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Thats cool

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More people working at home, less people working in the office building when they can work perfectly at home

warped atlas
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Getting promoted and moving to a more dynamic/remote project would allow me to do that

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At the moment Iā€˜m at the level of consultancy where Iā€˜m working at the customer directly and bill them@with the amount of hours Iā€˜m there

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But honestly I donā€˜t think Iā€˜m a work at home type of person šŸ˜…

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Going to an office with other people would be better

amber perch
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ok i see

amber perch
#

are biological researchers wanted/in shortage in germany?

vague brook
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you can always contact institutes and universities and ask. From what I know, you can always start a PhD and live from that for a while. What happens afterwards depends. :P

amber perch
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what about finishing a phd then coming

tame forum
#

One obvious step would be looking at job websites like indeed, xing and look for the number of positions which are relevant to ur experience.

amber perch
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Thanks

tame forum
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Another thing that u cud do is look on linked in how many people are there in germany in ur field and what they r working as right now

tropic edge
#

So right now I'm on a Studienvorbereitung visa and I want to go on holiday back home. How long could my holiday last while still keeping the visa valid?

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If you could guide me to the place to look it'd be much appreciated

tame forum
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One thing u could do is emailing the German consulate at ur country. They reply pretty fast. 1-2 days max

warped atlas
#

Usually the visa would say whether itā€˜s a multiple entry and also from when till when it would be valid from.

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Usually you can see that as well from green Zusatzblatt @tropic edge

tropic edge
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Whats a green Zusatzblatt?

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And it's not a visa, I mean an Aufenthaltstitel

sullen spruce
#

how did you get your apartment in Berlin?

tropic edge
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Wg-gesucht and Facebook

amber perch
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How hard was it
What are some tips to get one

tropic edge
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Not hard to get one
Very hard to get a nice one

amber perch
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Ok

tropic edge
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The best way is to make good friends and get to know people. Move in with people you know as soon as possible. Enjoy the city!

exotic barn
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Are there any web devs here who live in Germany?

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I'm interested in doing web dev in Germany

tropic edge
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They sent me this today:
Die Zustellung der Sendung verzƶgert sich. Sie erfolgt voraussichtlich am nƤchsten Werktag.

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What's taking them sooo long?

tight kelp
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they found out that you wait for them all day every day in front of the door like a hungry puppy

amber perch
#

does this company have good reviews

tropic edge
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I'm been spyed on o no

warped atlas
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Sometimes DHL does that as well

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But then it already showed up at my door for some reason (my packages are always received by my landlord, quite nice)

tropic edge
#

Ah well if that's the case I'm in trouble

soft spoke
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hallo :D kƶnnt ihr mir ein paar Ideen zur Überschrift eines Motivationsschreibens geben? Ich habe noch keinen geschrieben aber jetzt brauche ich einen Job und ein paar Unternehmen haben einen verlangt šŸ˜…

exotic barn
#

Bei Motivationsschreiben brauchst du eigentlich keine besondere Überschrift

soft spoke
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einfach "Motivationsschreiben"?

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es sieht komisch aus, wenn ich gar nichts da schreibe, oder?

exotic barn
#

ja, ersteres sollte genügen

soft spoke
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alles klar, danke!

exotic barn
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gern :)

heady crane
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Bitte nutze nicht "Motivationsschreiben" als Überschrift.

tropic edge
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Die Sendung wurde in das Zustellfahrzeug geladen.
NƤchster Schritt:
Die Sendung wird dem EmpfƤnger voraussichtlich heute zugestellt.

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How do I know when they've reached my house?

heady crane
#

No German question (no question about grammar etc.)

glass trench
#

When it says Die Sendung wurde zugestellt mmlol

heady crane
#

Ah, okay, my bad.

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sorry

tropic edge
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Syronoid so that's my ping to go leave the house run downstairs to get it from the guy?

glass trench
#

No, you most likely already received it in that case lmao
Your ā€žpingā€œ will be the bell mmlol

foggy prism
#

I thought in Germany it would be a piece of paper in your mailbox saying you weren't here so your package was (pick one)

  • Thrown onto the roof
  • Given to {unreadable}
  • Returned to sender
  • Available at the post office for a fee
heady crane
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@foggy prism that is wrong. There is no piece of paper

glass trench
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Eh there usually is

tropic edge
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Olright see you guys later going to camp downstairs

tropic edge
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I got the package!!

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A big thank you to everyone for following this adventure

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I went to the truck as soon as I saw it on the end of my street and asked him if he has a package for me.

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Bada boom bada bam I give him my pass for ident check and I get the package

tight kelp
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lol you went to the truck yourself

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eziome confirmed eager puppy

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ticks all the boxes so far

tropic edge
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100% I did. I wasn't going to wait till he delivered to everyone else than did a U-turn to me... obviously

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It looks so clean and nice, I'm happy

amber perch
#

Nice

tame forum
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Nice

sage flint
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@tropic edge du hast deinen neuen Computer bekommen ?

tropic edge
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Meinen gemieteten Laptop ja

sage flint
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3 Tage um es zu bekommen?! Es heißt zu hast für 30 Tage bezahlt aber du wirst es für 27 Tage benützen?

tight kelp
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er hat es ja am Wochenende bestellt... Trotzdem eine gute Frage.

thin osprey
#

Normalerweise lƤuft die Mietdauer erst ab Erhalt.

tropic edge
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Jo, Werdck hat recht

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Damit ist der heutige Tag auch offizieller Start deiner Miete. Alle folgenden Mietzahlungen erfolgen von nun an monatlich an diesem Kalendertag. Anbei findest du deine Rechnung für den ersten Mietmonat.

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Das habe ich von Grover per E-Mail bekommen^

sage flint
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Ich habe gelesen: Hp kostet rund 400Euro.
Mietet für 17 €/Monate Ɨ12 = 184 Euro/Jahr.
Es heißt, sie müssen es für mindestens zwei Jahren vermieten bis sie ihres Geld zurückbekommen. šŸ™€
Und sie sind auch gegen SchƤden verantwortlich!

Verdienen Sie echt Geld damit?

tight kelp
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wenn der durchschnittliche Laptop mehr als zwei Jahre überlebt, dann ja. Sie mieten ja an mehrere Leute gleichzeitig, sind höchstwahrscheinlich gegen Schaden versichert, und ich glaube sie kriegen die Laptops auch güngstiger als Verbraucherpreis

tropic edge
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Naja, es ist überhaupt nicht sooo super aber es reicht für einen Monat. Ich habe ja nur 20€ bezahlt, trotzdem eine coole Mƶglichkeit

tame forum
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And the company might also be buying second hand. Who is to say they are all brand new

shut gorge
#

Hey, freut mich zu hören! Das spannende Abenteuer des Pakets ist überstanden. x)

stable nymph
#

I'm looking at studying in Germany, and it seems like the best locations for my major are in Baden-Württemburg, how different is the german spoken there? Namely in/around Stuttgart

foggy prism
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you may encouter some dialect stuff in BaWü, but you will have zero issues anywhere in Germany

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especially not in cities, and especially not at universities

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you have to be lucky to find dialect speakers in Germany

stable nymph
#

will Hochdeutsch still be the default or will people default to the local dialect?

vague brook
#

I wouldn't be so sure about the area around Stuttgart

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From my experience the dialekt is pretty strong there

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And North of Stuttgart

stable nymph
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What about Tübingen? That was another one I was looking at

vague brook
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Dunno about south, didn't get that far

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Can't tell really, just speaking for Stuttgart because I live like 1 hour away from it

stable nymph
#

I'll just assume it to be similar then, it's fairly close anyways

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~43km apparently

vague brook
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It's manageable tho, takes some practice

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Probably university won't be that dialect-strong

stable nymph
#

If I just speak Hochdeutsch would I be able to get by?

vague brook
#

On your side there will never be any problems with just hochdeutsch

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The problem is understanding people speaking dialect

stable nymph
#

Of course, how likely is someone to switch to hochdeutsch then? Would they just continue using their dialect?

vague brook
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Uh, it really depends on the person

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And who you are talking with

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I stopped asking them to swap to hochdeutsch a while ago ;-)

stable nymph
#

Just generally speaking would people stick to their dialect more often or is it kinda 50/50

vague brook
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And never really did in the first place

stable nymph
#

I'm personally bad at german atm, but I'm hoping to get to like b2-c1 before I have to study there

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So dialects are really scary

vague brook
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Depends where you are. In bigger cities it shouldn't be a problem, and you will learn it good enough to get by in a while

stable nymph
#

Alright sounds reasonable enough then, I'll just have to continue practicing normally I guess šŸ˜›

vague brook
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But it's not like people speak dialects only in villages with no electricity, you will find it in cities too. Bothering with dialects is a waste of time anyway for an average learner

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And it's not that terrible, if your German is good enough you will get by

stable nymph
#

Of course I know that, it's likely the same with any language

vague brook
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Just takes some adaptation

stable nymph
#

Alright sounds good

warped atlas
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I live in BaWü and used to live in Stuttgart

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You can survive with Hochdeutsch, and have a decent amount of convo as well

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Even the dialects are.....understandable

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Except for SchwƤbisch

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😄

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I live in that sorr of area now, and my landlord is SchwƤbisch

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Btw, American military is stationed nearby Stuttgart, so quite a bit of English speakers there as well

tame forum
#

@stable nymph btw a heads up. Since u mentioned that u r a future student. U shud know that BaWü has fees international uni students.

warped atlas
#

^

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€1500 per semester

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NRW also

tame forum
#

not YET

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u scare me everytime u type that

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m going there in 3 weeks

warped atlas
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Ah, sorrd

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When is it supposed to be?

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I thought they did it already in 2018

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Since BaWü was WS 2017

tame forum
#

nah. fuck lemme check again

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yah not yet

odd bison
#

its not happening relax

warped atlas
#

Well, youā€˜re already in, so even if it does happen, you wonā€˜t be hit foxo

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Depends on the government atm

odd bison
#

why wouldnt it be hit? šŸ¤”

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if it happens, i will have to pay more for the following semester

tame forum
#

nope

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if u enroll before the law come into effect, u wont get affecteed

warped atlas
#

No, I wasnā€˜t hit with it (thank God) when it went into effect in 2017

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Because I was already a student, and it only affects new students coming in

tame forum
#

because that could fuck with finances of students who come from developing countries

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if they jus released a law and also applied it to students who got admission before the law

warped atlas
#

Yeah, but for some of my fellow nationals who were doing their bachelors, theyā€˜re screwed if they wanna do masters for the next one

tame forum
#

yah but theres always an option of doing masters somewhere else

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its not like u only have to go to that uni

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or is it like most people jus stay in the uni they did they bachelors in or somethng like that?

odd bison
#

achso

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well good to know šŸ˜„

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but i havent heard of this law being released so i dunno if you should worry

stable nymph
#

@tame forum hahah that's nothing compared to what I pay now

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Just American things....

tame forum
warped atlas
#

Coming from Indonesia, and having to pay things myself, thatā€˜s a lot to figure out, bud

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Every euro counted

amber perch
#

Why Baden when it's the only state with fees

tame forum
#

He joined it before the fees came into effect

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@amber perch

amber perch
#

Ok I see

lunar garden
#

guys, where can I get teeth braces cheaper?

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and how much does it cost normally in germany?

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anybody here went to like austria to do it for the sake of it being cheaper?

tame forum
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@lunar garden turkey would be my best bet.

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but the thing is, things like braces isnt a one time procedure, u have to go maybe once every one or 2 months to get it tightened and stuff like that

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so getting it far from home might be tricky

tight kelp
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it's more often than two months

vague brook
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plenty of KieferorthopƤden dont do controls for other doctors because why would they take responsibility for the work of someone else in case something goes wrong, also have different methods and plan the therapy different

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and at the start its every 3 weeks

tame forum
#

my teeth r kinda fucked too. i guess i will only be able to take care of that when m 30 or somethin

vague brook
#

Denn gerade eine langfristige Behandlung mit einer Zahnspange erfordert regelmäßige Kontrollen und Anpassungen, um die gewünschte Zahnstellung zu erreichen. Allerdings ist es nicht realistisch, dass ein in Deutschland niedergelassener Zahnarzt oder Kieferorthopäde einen Patienten mit im Ausland eingepasster Zahnspange weiterbehandelt.

In der Konsequenz bedeutet das, dass es entweder erforderlich sein würde, wƤhrend der oftmals mehrere Jahre dauernden Behandlung regelmäßig wieder ins Ausland reisen zu müssen, um die Zahnspange vom behandelnden Zahnarzt einstellen und weiter anpassen zu lassen. Oder es müsste in Deutschland eine neue Zahnspange angefertigt werden, was ggf. mit weiteren Kosten verbunden ist – im ungünstigen Fall muss dann zweimal für ein makelloses Gebiss bezahlt werden.

tame forum
#

tldr, dont get braces outside germany if living in germany

vague brook
#

well, when i was still at univ, people who i knew and had braces travelled 300-400km back to their KieferorthopƤde even inside the same country ;)

tame forum
#

wtf

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i wud rather jus live with my crooked teeth

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teeth are jus troll bones.

tight kelp
#

as if. Bad teeth lead to bad posture and back pain too, it's not just about the teeth themselves

exotic barn
#

That's actually not scientifically proven and insurance firms are currently looking into whether they still want to support braces as part of their dental package

tight kelp
#

hm. Interesting, all doctors I talked to about this seemed to have the same opinion

tame forum
#

maybe to convince u into getting braces

tight kelp
#

nah, I don't deal with that kind of doctors ^^ And I had dire need of braces with or without that factor anyway

tame forum
#

or maybe they were jus saying from anecdotal evidence. from all the patients they have seen over the years

tight kelp
ashen mirage
#

do you guys know any studienkolleg(s) that i can apply to with a b1 certificate?

tame forum
#

there are plenty afaik

ashen mirage
#

i only found two

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one in leipzig and the other in frankfurt

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the rest are asking for a minimum b2

golden nexus
#

Is car culture in the DACH countries different to 'Merica? I, along with most other people I know, go at least 10 mph (16kph) over the speed limit in basically every road

tight kelp
#

many places are surveilled with cameras that detect your speed, so if you go over the limit you're risking a lot. There should be a tolerance of 10% of the limit (so, with 50km/h, you can go as far as 55km/h) but don't quote me on that

golden nexus
#

so yeah it's different then

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yeah i regularly go like 50% over the limit but i haven't gotten a single ticket so

tight kelp
#

yeah that would be different here in europe :P

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in most places at least

tame forum
#

@ashen mirage oh damn. thing is the first and last uni i checked for studienkollegs was Leipzig, and seeing b1 there made me think it was B1 everywhere. sozz

warped atlas
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50% over the limit, you definitely get three points in Flensburg....

exotic barn
#

The speed tolerance is 3% btw and it's hard to say how many points you'll get based on a percentage here

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If you drive 150 in a 100km/h zone, you'll get 2 points, for instance

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Außerorts, that is

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You can google "Bußgeldkatalog" which should give you a list with fixed fees based on your speed

warped atlas
#

Okay, then 2 points

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Maximum 8, then you get your license revoked.

golden nexus
#

Ok yeah I guess it's quite different then lmao

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I mean my state is notorious for crazay drivers too so it might not even be my entire country

ashen mirage
#

@tame forum its fine, thanks for the help!

tame forum
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I jus want to confirm, The thing that we get when one moves to germany and goes to an Einwohnemelderamt is the "Meldebescheinung" yah?

warped atlas
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Yes

tame forum
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thankss

broken remnant
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i am currently out of ideas concerning an issue i am having here in germany. I am currently a student living in koblenz. soon moving to ingolstadt. I am having a lot of problems with my landlord. 4 months before i have to leave i sent him am email concerning me leaving the house. He didnt reply. ( please note that he has a tendency not to reply the emails) . In the email i asked him what should i do to end the contract usw. He left me with no answer. note: whenever there's things to talk about concerning his money- he usally reply my emails instantly. Last year he even tried to make us pay for waste water services , garbage trucks and all. But it was not included in our contract. he kept forcing us. Now , with 4 emails i sent him concerning my movement, he call me only 1 month before i go, then told me i have to pay for 3 more months because he didnt get any letter concerning that, he never told me i needed to do that, even if he left no instructions on how should we do i even tried to email him a kündigung letter through mail, and asked is this correct or not. Of course he did not replyy. in addition, he is also forcing us to find new people for the house. (i live in a house with 8 people). But we have seen that he already posted thehouse on immoscout24. What should i do? where can i ask for help?

warped atlas
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You donā€˜t have his phone number?

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International office might be able to help you...but...maybe not so much. If thereā€˜s a Mieterverein near you, you can go there and have a consultation

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Otherwise, Iā€˜m not sure what exactly else you can do, other than setting all the paper trails in order in case he wants to chase after you with it

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Check it as well with your Mitbewohner

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Maybe they have handled or heard something like this before

broken remnant
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nothing from my mitbewohners...i'll try the mieterverrein nearby...i hope they can help me...

tight kelp
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you can also check if there's any institution or verein devoted to helping your nationals with integration issues. If there is, they may give you a few pointers

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hopefully you won't have to go through a lawyer, but what he's doing is definitely not allowed. You have no obligation to find someone who'd rent after you, and you did give notice of your leaving in advance—it's not your responsibility if he can't receive it properly through a means that has been accepted and used by both. Just make sure to keep proof that you have contacted him when appropriate since he will certainly claim otherwise

broken remnant
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okay

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thank you

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i also forwarded him an email giving him the proof that i already told hin

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...

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we also live in a house full of bed bugs and all, i never even met this man in person...am not even sure if that is allowed

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you guys know better

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please advise me

warped atlas
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Wtf

broken remnant
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exactlyy

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i have to move out in like 2 weeks

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my courses are starting on the 1st october

tight kelp
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well, luckily for me my first landlord is a really nice guy, so I never had to go through anything of the sort. But a law is in place for all this and he can't violate it for free. If it turns out that you need a lawyer i doubt he'd come out on top, but do go to those vereins we recommended as soon as possible to get a clear idea on what your options are and what to do

broken remnant
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okay..i'll go there

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this sucks truly

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because i never got any kind of problems here

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I lived in germany for more than a year now... testdaf schƶn kompliziert...

warped atlas
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It does, man

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Frankly if after 2 months there are some things about the WG that doesnā€˜t seem right, Iā€˜d already complain about it

broken remnant
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the group before us reported to the landlord, he said he would do a treatment for the things...it never came

warped atlas
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gtfo

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Seriously

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And get the guy reported

fair talon
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^
Yeah, definitely sounds like hes trying to trick you into another 3 months rent.
At least from what you've said, youve got a strong paper trail for this (email sent to an address that he's responded from before, including about apartment matters).

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So thats good for protecting yourself.

amber perch
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There are some mean people out there
TIL

tame forum
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u heard of terrorists? they sound a bit mean too./s0x1s_friend_brooby

amber perch
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Not the nicest of humans
I agree

broken remnant
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okay thank you guys šŸ™‚

tame forum
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Btw @warped atlas after arriving in Germany, is it necessary that i first have to go to Einwohnermeldeamt and only then i can go to the AuslƤnderbehƶrde? Or is either order fine? Because when i was sending a general email to my local AuslƤnderbehƓrde, the person replied only [w/o answering the 3 questions i had asked]
"Guten Tag,

nach den mir vorliegenden Unterlagen sind Sie bisher nicht in Duisburg angemeldet.

Von daher bitte ich Sie, mir zunächst eine Kopie Ihres Nationalpasses und Ihres Aufenthaltstitels / Visums zu übersenden.".

Which makes me think the registering at the Einwohnermelde part has to come first.

warped atlas
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No, itā€˜s more or less they need a copy of your passport in their document folders. They would have had it if you had registered, I guess. But it still doesnā€˜t change anything much because you still need to give the proper paperwork to the ABH for all the other stuff (bank account, insurance, etc)

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The Einwohnermeldeamt doesnā€˜t take care of the insurance and all that shit

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But they would take a copy of your passport

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If itā€˜s your first time arriving

tame forum
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oh yah and that too..... on the website i cant find shit that i need to take with me

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and btw i am not yet in germany

warped atlas
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Thatā€˜s what you need to ask them

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The ABH is supposed to give you a list of things to bring.

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Your obligation is just to make an appointment with them, and getting a list of things to bring

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As for the Einwohnermeldeamt, you can do that as soon as you arrive, no appointment (depending on the city)

tame forum
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oh okay, then i will inform the guy that i am not in germany and never have been, and what all stuff shud i get to the appointment

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thanks

heady crane
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For questions about which documents you need and where to send them it is is important that, if you ask for help here, state

  • how long you will stay in Germany
  • if you are a student or a working person etc.
  • which country you come from
    This will make it a lot more easier to help you or sent you the helping links.
    hth.
tame forum
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ohhh.

warped atlas
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If thereā€˜s any way you can get a call with the civil worker, thatā€˜d make it WAY faster

tame forum
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yah but my german is broken 😦

heady crane
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You can write down anything you want to say and ask and ask for help then.

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good luck.

tame forum
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one more teeny doubt. i will be living in the airbnb for the first 7 days, my studierendenwerk house wont be ready. can i still register my studierendenwerk address even though i wont actually be there for the first week?

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or can i go to register only after i have officially moved in?

p.s. i have my contract and WohnungsgeberbestƤtigung with me already.

foggy prism
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(something something I’m not german) they might want to send post there after you register, which could be an issue

tame forum
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yes^ m also worried about this

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i think i read that they wud send something

exotic gorge
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They may have a mailing address and a address of residence. You can ask them to mail to the Airbnb for that week you're there and then redirect them to your new apartment when you can get mail from there. I am not sure if that's a real form, but it sounds like something the German bureaucracywould offer? You may say this to someone at the Einwohneramt, and they can leave a note on your file

tame forum
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sounds good. i will email them asking about this too.

heady crane
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Just a small recommendation: Keep the mails short and as precise as possible.

tame forum
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yah i will keep that in mind.

warped atlas
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The Einwohnermeldeamt would send stuff to your address in the next few weeks, so if youā€˜re only staying a week, you can safely give your future address.

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Though if you want to be REALLY sure, ask them to send it to the AirBnb, especially if itā€˜s expected to come in the next days, and if you somehow have to move out already, there is an option by deutsche Post, you can do it online, to do a Nachsendeauftrag for a month.

tame forum
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@warped atlas i looked up the nachsendservice. and idk if i am missing something out, but they dont have monthly prices. they jus have annual and prices for 2 years. lol. or do they maybe give the monthly option when u try to buy it?

warped atlas
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Hmmmm

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I guess I misremembered, sorry

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I must have had the 12 months....

tame forum
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damn

warped atlas
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But strange...because I moved to Stuttgart, and I couldā€˜ve swornwd I got a 3-6 months one...

tame forum
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exactly.... this has maybe jus become a service for a niche target who keep on moving around in germany. no point for us.

warped atlas
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Yeah, I got a 6 months one

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Definitely

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I paid only 19,90€

tame forum
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wait how can u see the option?

warped atlas
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It was one of the first things that was offered

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I guess they changed their service

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Sorry, man

tame forum
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ahh fuck

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rip

tame forum
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2]  Nach dem Termin mit Ihnen [für die Meldebescheinigung], gibt es irgendeine Dokumente, die Sie mir per Post zusenden wird? Wenn ja, nach wie viel zeit? 
Ich frage,  weil ich  die erste Woche in einem Hotel wohnen werde und erst nach einem Woche ich in meinem dauerhaften Wohnung umziehen werde. Wenn die Dokumente per Post nur 1-6 Tagen braucht, gebe ich die Anschrift meines Hotels. wenn die Dokumente noch länger braucht, denn gebe ich die Anschrift meines dauerhaften Wohnung für die Zustellung.

m sending this Email. is there anything wrong with it?

fair talon
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#writing might be a good place to post that too (albeit in a Google Doc)
Ran my email to Deustche Bank through that channel a bit back

tame forum
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yah i guess i will post it there

exotic barn
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Braucht man Mietvertrag, um sich fuer die Aufenthaltstitel zu bewerben?
Ich komme nach Deutschland erst am 24. Septemper, und ich muss noch an der Uni einschreiben. Ist es genug Zeit bis zum 1. Oktober? Die meisten Studenten sind schon seid Anfang September da, und ich bin wie so eine rote Laterne.

tropic edge
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guys I need Turkish food recommendations in Germany. Are there any big turkish food chains in germany, or specifically Berlin? I want to try some turkish food and was looking for recommendations as well

cinder barn
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there's bound to be a dƶnerbude somewhere :d

tropic edge
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I want turkish food other than dƶner

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like something with rice and meat

vale junco
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theres this cool program by CIEE where you go to berlin for a month or so an dlive with a host family and visit potsdam and stuff and learn german better

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i think im gonna (if my family can afford it, and im not otherwise occupied) do it

hidden briar
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@tropic edge there are no chains that I'm aware of, you'll have to search for yourself

heady crane
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@tame forum Nach dem Termin mit Ihnen (für die Meldebescheinigung), gibt es Dokumente, die Sie mir per Post zusend_en_ werden? Wenn, welche und innerhalb welcher Frist?
Ich frage, weil ich die erste Woche in einem Hotel wohnen werde und erst nach einer_r_ Woche meine ab dem... geltende dauerhafte Wohnadresse nutzen werde. Wenn die Dokumente per Post nur 1-6 Tage brauch_en_, würde ich Ihnen gerne die Anschrift meines Hotels geben. Wenn die Dokumente jedoch längere Zeit brauch_en_, würde ich Ihnen die Anschrift mitteilen, unter der ich ab dem... dauerhaft erreichbar sein werde.

((this would be a better wording, please do not forget to give the data))

As far as I know the cheapest one is the one for 12 months. I would suggest to use this one.
It might sound expensive but this way you are on the safe side.

warped atlas
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@heady crane nah, as far as I remember at least last year, there was a shorter option of 3-6 months

fair talon
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@tropic edge The only Turkish "chain" I'm aware of (at least, the only one ive seen multiple of) is Ali Baba. Most of the ones ive seen seem to be independently run

tame forum
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Try using zomato to look for turkish restaurents

heady crane
proven rock
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Hello ! I'm Moroccan and I want to study abroad in Germany

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I need to know which requirements I need and what should I Do to study in germany

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I want to study medicine and I'm in my last year in morocco before academic universities

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Someone can help me ?

slow ember
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Well i wanna do the same too but from what i heared it depends on the uni

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Each uni has different requirements from the other

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But u should have at least B2 ig

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But i will send a link that may help you

proven rock
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for B2 level I know that I'm asking for requirements of student VISA , when apply to an university ...

slow ember
proven rock
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ok thx

slow ember
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I think that this link may help you

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Np xd

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Is this what i need cause if it's not i have another link

proven rock
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I don't need this link , I'm searching for what I should do to study medicine in germany

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This link is talking about the courses to learn german and don't have medicine area or informational about that

slow ember
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Oh sorry

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Wait

proven rock
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ok

slow ember
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Actually if u scrolled down u will find sth called degree programmes click more

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Then u can search for medicen in it

proven rock
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thx

slow ember
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I hope that i helped šŸ˜…

proven rock
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I don't understand much @amr#5568

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need just informations to study and apply for an university in germany

warped atlas
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Itā€˜s possible, I just donā€˜t know how exactly

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I think itā€˜s easier to switch within the Bundesland tho

tropic edge
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Mind telling which uni and which city you're staying in at the moment?

tame forum
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@exotic barn first decide the uni u want to go to. and then decide the process. not the other way around. and then start asking your target uni about the Ects requirements and how u can fulfill them.

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all unis are different in the way the accept transfers and new students.

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for example @fair talon was missing some business course credits, and his uni told him that a MOOC will suffice.

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this MIGHT be the case for the uni u want to go to

tropic edge
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yeah research is king when it comes to studying in Germany. There are so many things you need to look up that we can't look up for you or won't understand because we don't know your background or literally anything about you.

fair talon
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Also, dont be afraid to email the Uni directly. Worst they can say is "sorry, I dont know"

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Thats how I found out about the MOOC course substitution with mine. I had emailed directly Admissions asking about their requirements

tame forum
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and also, if ur comfortable with english, most uni staff speak english too. so dont be afraid to call

tropic edge
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I was answering the two guys up above who asked about travelling to Germany

fair talon
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I mean, thats more of a how you spin it thing I think?
It'll look a bit odd, might come up as a question I suppose, but if you pass your classes and get the degree, I dont think it really would matter much šŸ˜…

tame forum
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@exotic barn ^^ employers are people too, they can understand why the swtiching might have taken place. people switch unis all the time for different reasons. and its not so uncommon [i think] that employers would think its a red flag.

odd bison
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@exotic barn really? How so

vague brook
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i dont think it should be a problem unless you swapped 11 times and it took you 12 years to get to bachelor

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or equivalent

odd bison
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Yeah

tame forum
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@warped atlas @fair talon i kinda have one more doubt. my cities alien office hasnt mentioned the docs i shud bring on their website [i have sent them a mail asking them for the docs] still i was curious if it was the same case everywhere and i checked Hamburgs website......and all the PDF's of the stuff thats required is beutifully listed

1] would it be fine if i jus referred to hamburgs pdf and see the docs that i need to bring? i imagine the same documents would be needed since this is a legal matter no?

heady crane
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Just a general recommendation:
I know it is much easier to do anything by email but if it comes to legal matters of any kind, use the good old snail mail and registered letters with "Rückschein" so that you have proof you have sent something and it was received and read by the right person.
As for emails some landlord tend to say someone else was on their computer or they never got the email etc. pp (some officed as well) so the snail mail is the best way, especially when it comes to matters regarding any legal aspects and certain periods where you have to answer within.

fair talon
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Mhm. Email is for practicality. Nothing beats paper for a 'paper trail' though

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@tame forum Documents for? If youre talking student residence visa, then yeah, I'd say thats a pretty safe bet (I brought extra documents to mine though).
The base requirements are fairly uniform for those visas

tame forum
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@fair talon yeh i mean student resident visa

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@heady crane thanks for the tip. And i will put it in use once m in Germany. Since m not there rn, its email for me. =(

tight kelp
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I don't think their claiming someone else was on their computer could have any legal validity whatsoever

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it's their responsibility to keep their emails, as well as post and any other means of private communciation, private, and certainly not the fault of the person sending the letter lol

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furthermore, since the spoken word can be legally binding, I don't see why emails wouldn't be. As long as you can prove that you sent them.

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there are also ways to send emails and receive a confirmation when they are received

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however, obligatory "i'm not a lawyer" here

heady crane
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@tight kelp well, this is a good opinion but I just recommended going for a safe side which will probably lead to the fewest problems.
I agree with you in all almost all parts, but I also know that the concept of proof is harder when it comes to emails as there can be technical problems etc.
Postal registered letters (with or without "Rückschein") are (yes, this is old-fashioned) accepted as proof of action much more easier and quicker.

And if comes to periods of time you have to answer or write within, I would rather you for the safe way.
But this is everyone“s own decision, I just wrote a recommendation (out of experience... took me 3 years to get through a lawsuit because the e-mail sending was doubted as well as the receiving... 😦

fair talon
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Also, even if youre not in Germany, international paper mailing is cheap af (usually only a Euro or two, I think even less if youre still in the EU)

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Additionally, if I recall correctly ("I'm also not a lawyer"), all court documents must be in German. So if you think he might drag it out legally, it might be a good idea to send it in German, however broken it may be, to avoid paying for an official translation later (#writing could be of some help)

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@tame forum Yeah, only thing I would watch out for then would possibly be any minute changes in the application form (For example, the application form on its website says Hamburg at the bottom of it), and a difference in fees (The Hamburg Welcome Center implied to me when I was there that theyre not implementing the new blocked account amounts until the next semester, other cities might be different)

tame forum
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Oh i already updated my blocked acc with the new fees

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But yah i had that in my mind to check if hamburg or somthin is written anywhete

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Becoz that wud Make the form specific for hamburg

fair talon
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At the end of the Application form, next to the signature šŸ‘€

proven rock
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need help

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i want to study in germany

tame forum
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depends on many factors:

german language knowledge
budget [shud be more than 10,000 euros per year]
marks in previous education
the type of education u want to persue
the subject u want to persue
the citizenship u have
and maybe some more things...... but until we dont know this stuff we cant help

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@proven rock

proven rock
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I begin learning german in goethe institut this year
I can't afford this high budget so i will do student job or public intern university
I have good marks
I want to study medicine
chirurgy cardiology

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@tame forum

tame forum
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@proven rock

need C2 german for medicine in germany
u will need to show 10,000 atleast for the first year to get visa. othervise no visa
good marks are a plus, since medical is competitive aff in germany [afaik].
are you going for a masters [specialisation] or a bachelors course?

vague brook
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I want to study medicine
chirurgy cardiology

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dem kids

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:D

proven rock
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@tame forum want to study specialisation

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and want to work there

vague brook
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do you have your medschool diploma yet or do you want to study

proven rock
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i want to study , i don't have diploma

vague brook
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can't help you then

proven rock
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I'm in bachelor year in morocco

vague brook
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but looking at how Germans require something close to 1.0 NC to study medicine and the Wartezeit is 12 semesters, i would expect the field to be extremely competitive. For a second there i thought you got your diploma, that's why i got confused. Got no clue about Uni-procedures tho.

tame forum
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but vahti i it competitive for masters too?

vague brook
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there's no masters

tame forum
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*specialisation?

vague brook
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its 6 years with three exams in between

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weiterbildung, depends where and how

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Uniklinik can be competitive

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small hospitals - surgery? no

tame forum
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oh shid weiterbildung is competitive too

vague brook
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they take everyone who has two hands and not a vacuum between his ears(and an Approbation)

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you do Common Trunk for surgery in germany, first two years are general, you can do it practically everywhere

tame forum
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so basically the weiterbildung takes places in the hospital itself?

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and not some college/university?

vague brook
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you are normally working

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just gathering stamps

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over years

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and then take the exam

proven rock
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so what should i do ?

tame forum
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step 1 would be to become fluent in german

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step 2 find work in germany

proven rock
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but I'm just student

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how find work ?

tame forum
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yah as in complete ur degree in morocoo

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*morocco

proven rock
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this year I will complete my bachelor degree

tame forum
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since u have already started it, switching is gonna be a hard option

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exactly, so u wont be a student any more then šŸ™‚

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that means u can find work

vague brook
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you need to do X this, Y that(the list is really long, for me its like 12 000 computer tomographies, few thousands MRIs, a few thousand ultrasounds, and some invasive), get it all signed by a doctor who's approved to teach and after working for 5 years and gathering all the stamps you can take your exam

tame forum
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damn

proven rock
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but i don't have diploma to have work

tame forum
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okay now m confused

proven rock
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me too šŸ˜•

tame forum
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okay: so ur completing ur degree in medicine this year.
which means u will be a doctor
which means that shud be enough to look for work

proven rock
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no

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you're confused

tame forum
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ohkk

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which part was wrong

proven rock
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I'm completing my degree to begin studying medicine

fair talon
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You will receive a bachelors in medicine this year, right?

tame forum
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ohhh

proven rock
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no

tame forum
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i think he is doing pre medical course

fair talon
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Ah

tame forum
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to join a medical university

vague brook
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oh actually there's bachelor in medicine

proven rock
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i will begin studying medicine

vague brook
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implemented in 2009 or 2010

foggy prism
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huh why would there not be?

vague brook
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there wasnt, usually its just full 6 years

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in many countries

proven rock
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so what should i do ? i'm confused

tame forum
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@proven rock well, do u know german?

vague brook
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concept is new to me :D

foggy prism
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it’s a pretty popular degree here (well, as popular as a degree with numerus clausus can be) and as far as I can tell fully integrated into the usual university structure

proven rock
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I'm A1 and i'm beginning learning it in Goethe @tame forum

fair talon
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Thats a good start šŸ‘ Goethe is nice

tame forum
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well it can take a year and a half to reach the level required for german unis

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for medical

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can u wait that much?

vague brook
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germany has it weird with doctor titles, because they often get a fake phd after graduating

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;)

proven rock
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yes @tame forum

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but you can help me please ?

fair talon
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Ask questions, we answer. "Help me" is very vague and non-specific.
We have been trying to offer specific answers where we can

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Otherwise our answer will just be "it depends."

tame forum
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@proven rock ^

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i think i provided all the basic info u needed

fair talon
vague brook
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yea i wasn't sure what he meant, because he wrote something about being public intern, doing cardiology

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seemed like someone who got his uni done

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(or someone who has totally no clue how studying medicine works)

proven rock
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you can make ma summary please in DM @tame forum

fair talon
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Funny enough, wouldnt the medicine program not even need a bachelors technically to apply? Since its supposed to be something you go to after your (13th?) year?

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In Germany that is*

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Of course, it does help with meeting the Abitur equivalency requirements I think

tame forum
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@proven rock what do you mean?

fair talon
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They want you to copy paste everything you said and send it to them in a private message I suppose @tame forum

tame forum
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he can find way better info on the internet lol

fair talon
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Probably in Arabic/French too lol

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Theres a lot of Moroccan students here, I'm sure someone has written something by now

proven rock
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need all basics you've said in dm plz @tame forum

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and jake is right

vague brook
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yea i somehow find getting a "semi-free" spot at medschool here quite... unlikely

proven rock
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i didn't find more infos in internet

fair talon
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Nothing at all?

vague brook
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giving how many germans are actually traveling to other countries to get medschool diploma because there's like 13 people per NC spot in here

tame forum
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well he can copy paste it himself .

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lol

fair talon
proven rock
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ok thx

vague brook
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how does it actually look like, you compete with other Germans over a spot, and one with the best grades takes it?

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because i assume that there's no free Abteilungen just for foreigners for them to study for free and leave the country

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but then, germany sometimes is that stupid

fair talon
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@vague brook Think it depends on the program/uni. I think some have quotas for internationals, others do strictly 'best grade + cover letter wins'

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UniversitƤt Hamburg does the latter I believe (they do assign 'hardship' points to the scoring system though, which can compensate a little for grades, but not entirely)

vague brook
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from what i've read getting a spot in medschool here is hilarious

fair talon
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I mean, I feel like medschool is a bit crazy everywhere šŸ˜…
The only program in the US where you started preparing during your high school (10th-12th year) years

vague brook
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i mean i had to be in the 0,1% of the best to get a spot too, but it somehow seemed less complicated

foggy prism
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I had a classmate who wanted to study med (she ended up not doing so) and saw some of the stuff she was learning for the test

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it was essentially a super long concentration / memory / pattern-finding test

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stuff like ā€here’s a list of people and attributes, now work on these unrelated problems for 30 minutes, now answer stuff about that list from beforeā€

proven rock
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thx for the website

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i will check it

vague brook
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exams during medschool were fun, sometimes they took 240 minutes and you wanted to shot yourself before finishing 1/3 of it

foggy prism
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what I don’t know is if that test is the only thing she had to do, and if not, how important it was

fair talon
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Well, got my syllabi for my Masters courses, and 90% of them are Final exam only

vague brook
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but the uni itself is just a fat big filter, because 90% of stuff you learn is irrelevant later anyway

fair talon
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(As far as grading is concerned)

vague brook
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it's just to check if you are dedicated enough

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;-)

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especially the pre-clinical is an absurd

fair talon
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@proven rock Just to comment on something you mentioned earlier: The student visa won't care if your plan is to work 25 hours a day every day of the year. You need to have the visa amount (10500something€) in a blocked account/have someone with sufficient income sign a legal guarentee to support you during your studies.
Thats a requirement before studies start

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I took a year and a half off between my bachelors and my masters to save up enough for that

proven rock
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how ?

fair talon
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How what?

tame forum
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lol

proven rock
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@fair talon how to have work and I don't have diploma , I want to begin my studies , there is some universities that afford food / sleeping room and student's job in Germany and all this is cheap and I can afford money for it ?

tame forum
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@proven rock he got a bachelors degree first. and then worked with his degree to earn money and save. it and then go for masters

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meanwhile u dont have a bachelors degree.

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so he wont be able to help you about how to save money w/o having a degree.

proven rock
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@tame forum ok

tame forum
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np

amber perch
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I'm getting my phd first then probably going to Germany

steel mauve
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Ist es besser zu schreiben Praktikum, Name der Firma oder Praktikantin, Name der Firma im Lebenslauf?
Danke im Voraus

foggy prism
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geht mMn beides, sollte aber überall gleich sein, also, wenn du Praktikum schreibst, dann auch Studium und nicht Studentin, etc

tame forum
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silly doubt i guess: so Aldi talk [sim card] has a prepaid option. 8 euro = 28 days worth of use [includes unlimited calls/ unlimited SMS and 2GB data.]

then later on their website i saw "You can buy vouchers of 5 , 15 and 30 Euros" this is only for buying internet data right? i mean what else can one do with the money vouchers.

vague brook
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uh, call people?

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:D

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Is it unlimited to every provider, or just the same?

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and calling someone outside of the country usually doesnt count towards unlimited either

tame forum
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ah yah damn forgot about that.

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and wait a min never thought about ""unlimited to every provider, or just the same" i jus assumed every provider

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idk y

tropic edge
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you charge the amounts so you could pay the 8 euros a month

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It's a prepaid package sort of thing

tame forum
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as in u jus load it in ur mobile and 8 bucks get deducted every month?

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is that what ur saying?

tropic edge
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yup

tame forum
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ahh

vague brook
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it could be the same or all of them, tbh im not sure because as for my german phone number, i just charge enough for my number not to get locked

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98% people still use my polish number and i just need the german one to occasionally "get stuff done", although i often call from my polish one just out of habit

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:p

tame forum
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oh yah i bet EU ppl can jus use their numbers everywhere and stuff

vague brook
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yea i also hate the german number because its freaking half a page long

tame forum
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u lot be sharing everything

vague brook
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;)

tame forum
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its okay german number hates u too.

vague brook
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its 12 figures + the prefix

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my polish one is just 9 snakelol

tame forum
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U.a.e. is 7

u shud move here

foggy prism
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mine is 10 long but the first digit is 0 for all numbers (it’s the ā€œinlandā€ prefix)

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so really it’s 9

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0 or +41 followed by 9 digits

fair talon
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@tame forum I'm on LidlConnect (same thing basically, just Lidl instead).
Basically, you got the "activation" card, which gets you your first 28 days + the physical SIM card.
Then you have "account credit" cards, which add credit to your prepaid account.
At the end of your 28 days, the account tries to use another 28 days worth of credit (a 5€ plan will try to use 5€, 10€ will use 10€, etc). These "account credit" cards can be used to add that amount, so you can use the number for longer than 28 days.

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The credit can also be used if you call long distance/use more data than youre allowed.

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Using those account credit cards, ive had the same Lidl number for about 3 months now šŸ‘€

tame forum
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ahhh. yah. makes sense

fair talon
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You can also use it if you decide you want to change what plan youre on too. I was on the 10-12ish € plan before I switched to the 5€ one (I basically live, commute, and work in wifi now, so its just for google searching between spots)

tame forum
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damn lidl has a 5 euro plan too?

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i will look that up

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cuz i dont need calls and sms and shit too.

vague brook
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i just checked my mobile webpage

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damn shits expensive

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no wonder im still using my polish one where i have everything i need for 5€, including 20gb of internet mmlol

fair talon
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750mb for 4.99€

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Flat text and calls I think

vague brook
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thats terribly expensive

fair talon
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Cheapest ive found with German companies 🤷

vague brook
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yea i can understand that