#archived-culture-study-visa
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And it also needs to have Summer semester
I don't really want to wait a whole other year til next winter intake
Rwth aachen is good and on the country side. And C1 german to get entry. But all international students now also have to give Test As as an IQ test for entrance. @tropic edge
Tu munich is in Munich so expensive
And btw FH= the studies are morr practical based compared to Uni/TU where its more theoretical. FH have connections with companies and the tjingsy they teach you and the assignments they give you are more industry related. They are also said to be more like School. As in you will need to have cumpolsury attendance and i guess they are more supportive in general, compared to uni where they dont give a fuck whether u come or no or whether u book ur exams or any thing like that.
Wait I need to give testAS as well? What even?
I thought that was for those who don't qualify for direct access
Also FH bachelors and Uni bachelors are at the same level in the eyes of the law, no difference there. But i have read that some older people may have judgements against FH graduates since at their time FH could only give diplmomas and unis were considered at a higher tier. But at present FH students are sought in companies where they dont want to spend resources on training students. Since the studies are already practical oritented.
@tropic edge no. Afaik only rwth aachen
Not all
Most dont
I was considering rwth until i read that. Since no test as in dunai
*dubai
Yeah I've researched and come up with the same, but master options and phd options for FH students are not that alluring
Phd is out of the question, AFAIK
Yah for PhD. N i have read sometimes unis are shady and will rekect Fh bachelor graduates who want to go for uni masters. And since they are at the same level in the eyes of the law. They cant state ur FH background as a reason for rejection
But nonetheless all unis are different
Sometimes u can jus finish the credits before joining the uni
Sometimes straight up reject
Depends how communicative the uni is and the programe
@tropic edge no i domt think its out of the question. I have read onlinr of people who did bachelors in Fh and have indeed done Phds. But thats not a recommended path
Depends again on the uni and ur luck whether they give u a place for phd
Yeah, it's not an option my parents would agree with. I would have been through uni a while back if I joined FH, but my parents convinced me otherwise.
They told me train in your field and have the theory, you never know when your interests might shift or change.
Kinda agreed and didn't have any better idea, so yeah
Makes sense
I'll try to join anything that opens up in the summer semester for Maschinenbau. So far I've only looked into Dresden and Berlin but need to sort of expand my scope of search and visit the cities when possible
I know that both have summer semesters
I'll look it up, thanks!
Are Goethe Institute German courses good?
Also Im planning to go to Germany to work after 4 years when I obtain my PhD
I am a beginner, so what CEFR level should I aim to have by then?
Depends highly on your teacher and group
In 4 years you could even reach c2 if you work hardš
But I have a PhD to do so I'll have to be realistic
you can find work with as little as B1, or even A0 if you find work in english (which is possible if you have a PhD, but depends a lot on the field). If you want to study further, at that level there are English courses even in German unis, but German ones will require at least C1 (plus all the relevant jargon of the field).
So I should aim for B1?
My field is in Biomedical Sciences
I thought you need full immersion for that
or else youll be surrounded by non-speakers
with the internet, as long as you develop a good method and don't slack off, you don't need to live there
for reference, i have never set foot on a country where english is natively spoken
You may definitely have some gaps without the benefits of immersion, but once you move there, you will be able to fill in those gaps. Being almost C1 is close enough to being C1, for the purposes of moving and working there.
But many people get C1 certification without immersion anyway.
I mean, there are a lot of variables to learning a language. Some people go from A1 to C1 in a year, some people take 10 years. But in a general sense, 4 years is more than enough time for someone to get to C1 if they are studying regularly.
They are realistic donāt worry, no false hoping š
I mean like 1 lesson a week from the goethe institute
and not some intense language course
Because I gotta focus on my research for my PhD
I will try
If you feel you're someone who can self-study, I'd even say you can study on your own up to B2 before doing courses, if that sounds like something you'd be interested in.
I mean, you can get to C2 with self-study, but obviously trying to juggle your time with a phd is hard when you get to more difficult content.
i'm not one to learn from courses myself, but one lesson a week can be ok if you supplement it with self-learning, especially practice. If all the activity you do in the language is that one lesson a week, ten years wouldn't suffice for b2
That's a good point.
Gotta do your homework
conversely, a total of say, just 3 hours a week of grammar study with some 10 minutes a day of practice would yield so much better results that it would really be a waste to do the bare minimum
Im currently using duolingo so Ill have to at least practice a bit every day
many seem to have an attitude of "i'll let the teachers learn me the language", which is a trap.
thanks
Hey! A question, if I open an N26 bank account
How do I deposit money?
I saw you can do it in DM?
But how much can you deposit in one go?
And can I pay with it before the card arrives?
Please @ me
I have been awaken from my slumber, who asks of N26?
@compact slate what you mean deposit money into the account? Like cash?
I don't think thats possible, haven't tried honestly. You get money sent into your account from a blocked account if you're a student, and money sent into your account from your job.
@tropic edge yes, I have no other way
You can send money to yourself through bank transfer
I don't have a blocked account
But why would you do thay anyway, I'm aware you're a student
I don't think I want one
Have you gotten your visa?
Is the transfer instant?
Wait lemme check if you can physically put money into your account
I read somethjng about Cash26 but I don't know anyone who did it
Yeah cash26 Germany, Austria Italy
SEPA transfer all regions
Or requesting monney from a friend
You wanna give me 15⬠to go get some food? I'll giv ya my ref code
@compact slate
I can send you screens from the app's help section
My question is how much cash can I transfer with cash26
That I have no idea about, you'll have to send N26 an email or get in touch with their customer service.
They're really fast
And/or send cash26 an email or call them
I will thanks :)
Sorry I have a friend that wants me to use his haha
Rip, mans gotta get that bread somehow kudos to your friend
Are you gonna go to TUB? @tropic edge
Yup
And its alao tu 9
And part of excellence initiative
Idk how much of a difference it makes at bachelors level tho
I'll check it out definitely
I'm just knee deep in prep for TDAF, so I am either procrastinating or studying
If u score 4 in all u can go in any uni
I'm starting Informatik there in October
I heard that although N26 is very popular
they can randomly block your account
and you cant withdraw
Not sure if its true
Thats the dream 4 in all
I haven't had any issues with it honestly. Most people who write that make me feel like they are doing really shady stuff @amber perch
Oded help me out then my dude
Good resource or any tip
i am interested in to know how was your test , i am writing the dsh test in december
The speaking part is known beforehand the question types not the subject
So just have template sentences for each question
Don't waste too much time on a question, if you get stuck go tk another one and go back after you finish
And the listening parts?
@amber perch I also am using N26, am not using it other than getting my money from work, transfer to Transferwise or to my second online account.
Any resources you could recommend, like on YouTube or something
i heard that you should have a backup account from another bank if you use N26
Well, I have three bank accounts in Germany....sooo....
Listening is what scared me the most because you are limited to 1 time and 2 times on the harder one
Four if you count Transferwise
Ut i got 4 twice
That's neat!!
Reading back. Yeah, N26 is flashy, but a bit sketchy. Theyve been flagged by inspectors for a lot of security issues
You can use em as a spending money account, but I wouldnt make it your main bank account.
What banks are good for main aƧcounts
If you donāt mind the monthly fee, the established Volksbank, Sparkasse would do the trick
If you still want to have an online bank, the more established online bank would be Comdirect and DKB (there is also no monthly fee)
And for the record, my āmainā bank account is N26, which I use to pay bills as well and transfer stuff. So money keeps on flowing in and flowing out....so also my āspending moneyā account
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But the one I use to save emergency money and for investment etc, I use a second online bank for that
That seems complicated
I think banks like Commerzbank would also waive their fees if you use their bank as your āmain accountā (see, this is why I want to emphasize it) which means you have to put in money more than ā¬1000 a month (which usually means you use their account to receive your salary)
So for the monthly fees, they will be waived if you have a high enough salary?
Im thinking of using HSBC
it depends on the account itself, every bank offers a bunch of them
Just need to read the fine print on that, @amber perch
I see
Hallola
Lleleleelel
What am i doing in a...... i dont know ich dachte das is deutsch hier lol
moving to Berlin in October
preparing myself to look for places there. would renting through a real state agency be more headache-free than directly with landlords?
in general
Are you a student?
no, going to work there
I mean, as a rule theyre usually easier than searching on your own (thats what youre paying for after all). Your budget is what it comes down to I believe
maybe I'm using wrong terminology
there are some websites that list apartments, and they seem to manage the renting process etc
such as https://www.deutsche-wohnen.com
Als eines der führenden Immobilienunternehmen in Europa liegt unser Fokus auf Metropolregionen, in denen wir lebenswerte Wohnkonzepte umsetzen.
Oh, going with the apartment comllex company vs individual landlords.
It sounded like you meant going with a third party agent who looks for places for you
yes, more like that
I'm fine with looking for apartments myself
No idea about that 𤷠We'll see when the rest of the Germans get on
Renting through that sort of agency is pretty okay
One of my friends was able to stay at a pretty cheap room as he was finishing his Masterthesis, staying at a housing complex that was owned by such an Immobilienunternehmen
Berlin is such a competitive are for housing, you better get every advantage you can get
how are tech bootcamps viewed by employers in Germany? are they common?
@warped atlas thanks!
i love how the acronym for this channel is in three different languages
"WarumĀ einfach, wennĀ manĀ es kompliziert machenkann?"
i love how the acronym for this channel is in three different languages
itās not, though. D is from the German word, A and CH from Latin
when moving cities within Germany do I need to do an Abmeldung or just an Anmeldung at the new city?
ah just found the answer, no need to de-register
it's called Ummeldung
true, thanks
I had not realized that Austria is a Latin name
Is Germans being generally more xenophobic than your average human a myth
Yes.
Good
But some Germans will say that Germany is one of the countries in which people are less likely to interact with strangers, e.g. when just walking around on the street, so maybe that is rather what you are thinking of.
I've heard extreme stuff such as they value racial purity
Which is ?????????
Nuh, there is no significant issue with that. Of course every country has people with extreme views, but it's not really different from other countries.
It's probably the country least likely to care about racial purity
But some Germans will say that Germany is one of the countries in which people are less likely to interact with strangers, e.g. when just walking around on the street
that is not true though
german elders especially are rather talkative in public if you so much as look like you can speak german
Eh, I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying many Germans have said that.
yeah i was countering the claim itself rather than you claiming it
germans are more sociable than italians with strangers, even though italians normally seem to give off the opposite stereotype
Okay, that's fair. I guess it's more informative to explain it like this anyway: the stereotype of Germans being xenophobic/racist is much more a stereotype people from other countries far from Germany will say. The stuff about socialization is a stereotype Germans would say about themselves, and perhaps some people can confuse the two ideas.
and @amber perch , what you heard is most likely based on nazi germany, which was a long time ago and didn't end well. Whoever told you that is probably stuck on old prejudices, and either way doesn't know what they're talking about. Honestly from what I see from here, the USA are far, far more racist than Germany as a country
They're like we're the nazis from west Germany or east germany
it is strange that one country can be so stereotyped by one political party
what do you mean?
NSDAP came to power because of specific conditions which were imposed on Germany after the Versaille treaties and WW1 humiliation. Not because of something wrong with german folk.
but damn, I came here to practice german, probably should stick to that š
How would I go about acquiring a really really cheap laptop in Germany? Like below 50 Euros... Is that even possible? I just need like google chrome
Shops, obv not like media markt or something right?
They might be cheap too
ebay?
I'll look rn
Can it be a used one?
Yeah, anything as long as it's cheap.
I just need it to get me connected faster. I don't even need a keyboard or mousepad, just working usb port
maybe a cheap android tablet?
Doesn't have the access I need, I'm working completely from my phone and its difficult to switch between tasks, so a laptop would suit me better
Do people usually use eBay in Germany? I thought ebay Kleinanzeigen was the way to go
I'll keep this up, until I find anything
ebay Kleinanzeigen is like the less reliable way of buying stuff. Prices are like those on EBay, just people are rude and descriptions are severely lacking
like this:
EBay: "Laptop mit i7-4770 CPU, 8GB RAM und Kartenleser, HP 250 G4"
EBay Kleinanzeigen: "schneller Laptop HP"
Haahhaaa ja, I know what you're talking about
I'll look on eBay as well, even though I might need something urgently than 3-4 days
Are there services here that let you rent out laptops?
there are internet cafes and some libraries have available computers, but I don't know of any laptop rental
in austria we have a second hand online market called willhaben.at
its really popular and well used/looked after
dont know if germany has something similar
I didn't check myself š just throwing ideas
:( you guys are sweethearts, no kidding
I'll keep looking in these places till I see if I can snatch a deal
@tropic edge how long do you want to rent the laptop?
There are services to rent them
Just 2 or 3 weeks max
Okey gimme a sec
Thanks Dex!!
Grover is a site that rents them
Miete die neuesten Notebooks von Marken wie Apple, Acer, Lenovo oder Dell schon ab 17,90 ā¬/Monat. Flexible Monatsmiete ā Schneller Versand ā 90 % Schadenversicherung ā Jetzt mieten!
Are there other websites where I could compare prices?
Gimme a sec
Laptops günstig online mieten - Bundesweit Versandkostenfrei - EU-weiter Versand - Office-Paket inklusive - GroĆe Auswahl und groĆe Stückzahlen verfügbar - Miete ohne Mindestlaufzeit bereits ab 1 Tag
I mean I'll take it, this is 32.90⬠a month. I can live with that
Notebook-Verleih.de - Hardware-Miete für Unternehmen. Viele Produkte in groĆen Stückzahlen - ab 1 Tag mietbar - ab 250 ⬠kostenfreier Standardversand deutschlandweit
Those are the ones I found
Grover is the only one I know stuff about tbh
I'll go for it then
Thanks again Dex!
Ay I got it for 50% off using a code as well
Ayyyy nice dude
hey nice. Didn't know that was an option
in this day and age, how are these companies functioning? do people really end up finding themeselves w/o a computer so often that justifies their existence?
evidently, yes. These things are born from addressing a niche necessity that everybody else ignored
many people, like Eziome, need one just for a limited time. Others just need it once in a while. Some want to test a model to see if they want to buy it, some write reviews on them but don't want to buy each model just for that
i can think of even more possible use-cases
Tourists who might wind up needing to fill out web forms or other office work while on vacation. That could easily account for them on its own
hmm.... makes sense.
And dumbos like me who choose to ignore a necessary purchase that too
Btw how were u functioning w/o a laptop till now?
desktop most likely
Huehuehuehue... My laptop broke down like 2 or so months ago.
For the past 2 months I'm working solely on my phone. I've actually gotten good at multitasking and finding ways to completely utilise my phone to do everything I normally need a pc for
Even down to playing videogames, ja es ist ein hard knock Leben
Feel free to start a gofundme on my behalf
XD
Hmmm
You want my Surface Pro?
Damn old tho
But itās also just collecting dust
any recommendations on what to say as Gehaltsvorstellungen when applying for a Werkstudent part time job in Germany?
Thanks a lot for the offer @warped atlas , I'm waiting right now on the laptop, should be on its way soon
Check the online recommendation, but usually you would get somewhere between 750 to 1250 netto during your normal semester. and a lot more because of hourly rate in the summer @soft spoke
If you are going to work at some place like Bosch in BaWü, ā¬1250 netto would be a quite high Gehalt, but reasonable for such a big company.
Btw, as a student, you ādonātā pay taxes if you earn under ā¬9000 a year. (Still have to declare taxes to get that paid taxes back though)
thanks!
I'm researching youth hostels for a trip to Germany, and I've fallen down the rabbit hole of super cringy promotional videos for those youth hostels š it's amazing
The laptop got picked up by DHL so it should be coming tomorrow
How does one usually receive something like that? First time for me
they ring, you open, they give you the parcel, sometimes you have to sign a thing, then they leave in a hurry because they're treated like shit and have to meet borderline irrealistic standards to get a shitty wage
But nowhere did I give my address or anything like that...they only have the building number and that's it
ok š¤ no idea then
And I don't want to miss it. I don't think they work on weekends so idk. I really want the laptop
you must have provided them with a way to reach you or else how do you expect your laptop to happen about your location
he prolly means they didnt ask in the first place and he doesnt know how to go about giving them his onfo
*info
which i think happened on the laptop rental service's website.
right but there's no way they sent a laptop without knowing where and to whom to deliver it
oh yahhh
𤷠what one doesn't learn through first hand experience from someone else, learns it from his experience, first hand
TIL: how not to get a laptop
they ring, you open, they give you the parcel, sometimes you have to sign a thing, then they leave in a hurry because they're treated like shit and have to meet borderline irrealistic standards to get a shitty wage
oh dear can the world get more real than this
:DD
most of the time they also dont talk to you because they are foreigners with A1 german
some of them are trying to be sneaky and leave the parcel somewhere near your door to avoid eye contact
Hahahahaa brzrkr
khallo, pakett? Dange
chuldigom
That'll be a fun experience nevertheless
[awfully misspelled version of your name*]?
* you can tell it's misspelled even if they just say it aloud. It's that bad
i always try to tip them tho, especially if i order from amazon and they deliver at like 10pm lol
I can get things delivered to me on an address I'm not registered at, right?
pretty sure yes, as long as you get them direct from them
yeah it's not like they'll ask for your anmeldung papers
but i think they leave a piece of paper
though if i were the delivery boi and i were sent to an address to give a parcel to someone whose name isn't anywhere to be found i'd be tempted to leave it there on the pavement, maybe piss on it a bit
pls dont ever be a delivery person lol
fewm Eziome brzrkr
haha stupit Eziome (TestDaf boi)
I dissed myself by mistake
You get the idea tho @tight kelp
Did ya put ya name on the order and delivery page? @tropic edge
kek
Bin hier ootp
Yeah they have my name
yea like the owls from harry potter universum
wait by the door the whole day to not miss it
Vahti, I'm the type of person to actually do that
it's what i did when i was waiting for my sofa
well without a sofa i would probably sit by the door too
at the time, the flat contained exactly nothing, so i was literally sitting on the ground with the face in my phone
that sofa served as a bed for two people for two months
(why didnt u add the number of your flat tho)
I don't know how delivery works. Where I come from the delivery company calls you and sets a time and place. If they can't find you they'll call you again to see where you at.
How will they come up to the flat without a key though?
ah, fair enough
they can just ring your door from outside the building, and you should have a button to be able to open the door for them in your flat (if its a modern building)
yep, good to be prepared š should feature a Gegensprechanlage so you know who's ringing
I can only give my PLZ only
hm?
I can only receive it with Personalausweis
the package? ive never had to show it
well, in case you do need it, just put it somewhere you can easily reach it
I'm going to camp outside the building whenever I get the notification that they've moved
Better safe than sorryš
when's the estimated arrival, i need an update on this tense situation
Tomorrow, it says unterwegs
When it starts moving I'm assuming it should say in Zustellung
Jup
This is the latest update!
Die Sendung ist in der Region des EmpfƤngers angekommen und wird im nƤchsten Schritt zur Zustellbasis transportiert.
Is it coming today? Eziome?
Yeah, it should be
Any idea what is the latest time by which they could deliver? It's already 10:45š¬
probably around 18
Okay that's cool, at least 7 more hours to go
you're not really sitting by the door the whole time are you
just leave a well-visible note with instructions for the delivery boy
Shouldāve sent it to the DHL Filiale or to an automatic DHL lockerbox (?)
Then you can take it at anytime you want, and the courier can also put it anytime he wants
That's how I got an order before but it wasn't an option this time
Itās annoying that the estimation says between 14-17, and the guy suddenly came at 1300
Wtf
I am almost sitting by the door
I have plans, dude
My only planning is getting that laptop right now hah
so, you're standing by the door? xd
@warped atlas dude my delivery window for my furniture from ikea was 7-22
I've heard so many stories of people not getting their packages or stuff from DHL and I really don't have time to chase after that
and they managed to not delivery it at all
so i had to sit in an empty house the literal whole day twice
Minimalism is nice tho
My kinda life
Minimalism, I mean
But then you get to live with a partner
And you get your whole world turned upside down
And also not as nice when you wanna do some gathering at your house
Not if ur gathering is about teaching people how to be a minimalist.
whats the best way to rent a room in a WG or a single apartment while being abroad? there are too many who want to meet in person
Yah its next to impossible.. U have to go there, live for a week or 2 in hotel/airbnb maybe more ..... And fix a house.
And fix a house.
What does it mean?
a week or 2 in hotel/airbnb
Guess thats what i'm gonna do. But there are some issues with Meldeamt, when you need to register to make some documents or whatever
Erlangen seems to be a quite difficult place to find a room...
Autocorrected from find maybe
ah ok
nope, fix can also mean arrange or settle on something
So everyone who will move to Germany will have to do that?
Well, the package seems to be stuck in the place where packets are sorted-super not nice
@amber perch the best strategy would be to stay at a friend's or get an airbnb. A longer-term solution like a WG or rented flat requires a german bank account, which requires a german address*, and the chances that someone would rent even a room in a wg without seeing the person are slim
* it's a horrible vicious circle that expats have to go through to live here. Luckily you can register your address even if you don't rent or own the place, meaning you can do it at an airbnb place, a friend's place, or even a hotel, which serves as the first "base of operations" to get started
i had the luck of finding an absolutely lovely airbnb host who let me sub-rent the flat for a year and a half, and after that i was ready to move to a flat rented outright
thanks
Or to get ur bank account , use an online bank. They dont need ur address..... And were created specifically to get out of the loop berzi mentioned
Or to get ur bank account , use an online bank. They dont need ur address..... And were created specifically to get out of the loop berzi mentioned
I had, in fact, tried to play that card but unfortunately my government is a meme and postident, which is a procedure by deutsche post that they use to verify identity, is borderline illegal in their only supporting one of the perfectly valid IDs issued by my country, so I couldn't do it :D
second-class citizen because my id is not a plastic card yet
i've had trouble with exactly the same thing for other stuff too
How do I get a job at DHL? Anyone here has experience?
you google stellenangebote dhl and send them an email
from what i see they need couriers in every city in the radius of 100km from where i live, so it shouldnt be that difficult to get a job there :P
I'll get on it! It sounds really fun and they pay well at 13.37
U wouldnt need a driving licence or something?
No.
Because Deutsche Post doesnāt only deliver big packages.
They have bikes for people that gonna deliver letters and stuff
they probably pay drivers more for having driving licences but in general they need a lot of people, because it's kind of a shit job and people get out of it as soon as they can :D
Yea the personel rotation is huge
Yeah because DHL sucks ass
They pay shit
And in return you have to work like a maniac
Barely making a living
I respect the people who do it
I think all delivery companies suck in the same way. Jobs like these or in logistics (think amazon) are in dire need of trade unions, but since most jobs are seasonal it wouldn't really work in the traditional way
so basically they're left out in the cold and the companies profit on the back of the lowest tier of workers
Die Zustellung der Sendung verzƶgert sich. Sie erfolgt voraussichtlich am nƤchsten Werktag.
Got this at 13:15
Will it come today or Mondayš¤
if you got that today, then monday
Sad reacts onlyš
unless they count saturday a Werktag, thats not always clear. but probably not
at least here theyād say Werktag oder Samstag
Do people normally work on saturdays
depends on where they work
i see
are most people here doing something related to CS?
are there any scientists working in a lab?
Iām gonna be working tomorrow @amber perch
But itās some extra mile stuff, that would get me promoted sooner
And Iām working at home with my own laptop
Thats cool
More people working at home, less people working in the office building when they can work perfectly at home
Getting promoted and moving to a more dynamic/remote project would allow me to do that
At the moment Iām at the level of consultancy where Iām working at the customer directly and bill them@with the amount of hours Iām there
But honestly I donāt think Iām a work at home type of person š
Going to an office with other people would be better
ok i see
are biological researchers wanted/in shortage in germany?
you can always contact institutes and universities and ask. From what I know, you can always start a PhD and live from that for a while. What happens afterwards depends. :P
what about finishing a phd then coming
One obvious step would be looking at job websites like indeed, xing and look for the number of positions which are relevant to ur experience.
Thanks
Another thing that u cud do is look on linked in how many people are there in germany in ur field and what they r working as right now
So right now I'm on a Studienvorbereitung visa and I want to go on holiday back home. How long could my holiday last while still keeping the visa valid?
If you could guide me to the place to look it'd be much appreciated
One thing u could do is emailing the German consulate at ur country. They reply pretty fast. 1-2 days max
Usually the visa would say whether itās a multiple entry and also from when till when it would be valid from.
Usually you can see that as well from green Zusatzblatt @tropic edge
how did you get your apartment in Berlin?
Wg-gesucht and Facebook
How hard was it
What are some tips to get one
Not hard to get one
Very hard to get a nice one
Ok
The best way is to make good friends and get to know people. Move in with people you know as soon as possible. Enjoy the city!
Are there any web devs here who live in Germany?
I'm interested in doing web dev in Germany
They sent me this today:
Die Zustellung der Sendung verzƶgert sich. Sie erfolgt voraussichtlich am nƤchsten Werktag.
What's taking them sooo long?
they found out that you wait for them all day every day in front of the door like a hungry puppy
does this company have good reviews
I'm been spyed on o no
Sometimes DHL does that as well
But then it already showed up at my door for some reason (my packages are always received by my landlord, quite nice)
Ah well if that's the case I'm in trouble
hallo :D kƶnnt ihr mir ein paar Ideen zur Ćberschrift eines Motivationsschreibens geben? Ich habe noch keinen geschrieben aber jetzt brauche ich einen Job und ein paar Unternehmen haben einen verlangt š
Bei Motivationsschreiben brauchst du eigentlich keine besondere Ćberschrift
einfach "Motivationsschreiben"?
es sieht komisch aus, wenn ich gar nichts da schreibe, oder?
ja, ersteres sollte genügen
alles klar, danke!
gern :)
Bitte nutze nicht "Motivationsschreiben" als Ćberschrift.
Die Sendung wurde in das Zustellfahrzeug geladen.
NƤchster Schritt:
Die Sendung wird dem EmpfƤnger voraussichtlich heute zugestellt.
How do I know when they've reached my house?
No German question (no question about grammar etc.)
When it says Die Sendung wurde zugestellt 
Syronoid so that's my ping to go leave the house run downstairs to get it from the guy?
No, you most likely already received it in that case lmao
Your āpingā will be the bell 
I thought in Germany it would be a piece of paper in your mailbox saying you weren't here so your package was (pick one)
- Thrown onto the roof
- Given to {unreadable}
- Returned to sender
- Available at the post office for a fee
@foggy prism that is wrong. There is no piece of paper
Eh there usually is
Olright see you guys later going to camp downstairs
I got the package!!
A big thank you to everyone for following this adventure
I went to the truck as soon as I saw it on the end of my street and asked him if he has a package for me.
Bada boom bada bam I give him my pass for ident check and I get the package
lol you went to the truck yourself
eziome confirmed eager puppy
ticks all the boxes so far
100% I did. I wasn't going to wait till he delivered to everyone else than did a U-turn to me... obviously
It looks so clean and nice, I'm happy
Nice
Nice
@tropic edge du hast deinen neuen Computer bekommen ?
Meinen gemieteten Laptop ja
3 Tage um es zu bekommen?! Es heiĆt zu hast für 30 Tage bezahlt aber du wirst es für 27 Tage benützen?
er hat es ja am Wochenende bestellt... Trotzdem eine gute Frage.
Normalerweise lƤuft die Mietdauer erst ab Erhalt.
Jo, Werdck hat recht
Damit ist der heutige Tag auch offizieller Start deiner Miete. Alle folgenden Mietzahlungen erfolgen von nun an monatlich an diesem Kalendertag. Anbei findest du deine Rechnung für den ersten Mietmonat.
Das habe ich von Grover per E-Mail bekommen^
Ich habe gelesen: Hp kostet rund 400Euro.
Mietet für 17 ā¬/Monate Ć12 = 184 Euro/Jahr.
Es heiĆt, sie müssen es für mindestens zwei Jahren vermieten bis sie ihres Geld zurückbekommen. š
Und sie sind auch gegen SchƤden verantwortlich!
Verdienen Sie echt Geld damit?
wenn der durchschnittliche Laptop mehr als zwei Jahre überlebt, dann ja. Sie mieten ja an mehrere Leute gleichzeitig, sind höchstwahrscheinlich gegen Schaden versichert, und ich glaube sie kriegen die Laptops auch güngstiger als Verbraucherpreis
Naja, es ist überhaupt nicht sooo super aber es reicht für einen Monat. Ich habe ja nur 20⬠bezahlt, trotzdem eine coole Möglichkeit
And the company might also be buying second hand. Who is to say they are all brand new
Hey, freut mich zu hören! Das spannende Abenteuer des Pakets ist überstanden. x)
I'm looking at studying in Germany, and it seems like the best locations for my major are in Baden-Württemburg, how different is the german spoken there? Namely in/around Stuttgart
you may encouter some dialect stuff in BaWü, but you will have zero issues anywhere in Germany
especially not in cities, and especially not at universities
you have to be lucky to find dialect speakers in Germany
will Hochdeutsch still be the default or will people default to the local dialect?
I wouldn't be so sure about the area around Stuttgart
From my experience the dialekt is pretty strong there
And North of Stuttgart
What about Tübingen? That was another one I was looking at
Dunno about south, didn't get that far
Can't tell really, just speaking for Stuttgart because I live like 1 hour away from it
It's manageable tho, takes some practice
Probably university won't be that dialect-strong
If I just speak Hochdeutsch would I be able to get by?
On your side there will never be any problems with just hochdeutsch
The problem is understanding people speaking dialect
Of course, how likely is someone to switch to hochdeutsch then? Would they just continue using their dialect?
Uh, it really depends on the person
And who you are talking with
I stopped asking them to swap to hochdeutsch a while ago ;-)
Just generally speaking would people stick to their dialect more often or is it kinda 50/50
And never really did in the first place
I'm personally bad at german atm, but I'm hoping to get to like b2-c1 before I have to study there
So dialects are really scary
Depends where you are. In bigger cities it shouldn't be a problem, and you will learn it good enough to get by in a while
Alright sounds reasonable enough then, I'll just have to continue practicing normally I guess š
But it's not like people speak dialects only in villages with no electricity, you will find it in cities too. Bothering with dialects is a waste of time anyway for an average learner
And it's not that terrible, if your German is good enough you will get by
Of course I know that, it's likely the same with any language
Just takes some adaptation
Alright sounds good
I live in BaWü and used to live in Stuttgart
You can survive with Hochdeutsch, and have a decent amount of convo as well
Even the dialects are.....understandable
Except for SchwƤbisch
š„
I live in that sorr of area now, and my landlord is SchwƤbisch
Btw, American military is stationed nearby Stuttgart, so quite a bit of English speakers there as well
@stable nymph btw a heads up. Since u mentioned that u r a future student. U shud know that BaWü has fees international uni students.
Ah, sorrd
When is it supposed to be?
I thought they did it already in 2018
Since BaWü was WS 2017
its not happening relax
Well, youāre already in, so even if it does happen, you wonāt be hit foxo
Depends on the government atm
why wouldnt it be hit? š¤
if it happens, i will have to pay more for the following semester
No, I wasnāt hit with it (thank God) when it went into effect in 2017
Because I was already a student, and it only affects new students coming in
because that could fuck with finances of students who come from developing countries
if they jus released a law and also applied it to students who got admission before the law
Yeah, but for some of my fellow nationals who were doing their bachelors, theyāre screwed if they wanna do masters for the next one
yah but theres always an option of doing masters somewhere else
its not like u only have to go to that uni
or is it like most people jus stay in the uni they did they bachelors in or somethng like that?
achso
well good to know š
but i havent heard of this law being released so i dunno if you should worry
@tame forum hahah that's nothing compared to what I pay now
Just American things....

Coming from Indonesia, and having to pay things myself, thatās a lot to figure out, bud
Every euro counted
Why Baden when it's the only state with fees
Ok I see
guys, where can I get teeth braces cheaper?
and how much does it cost normally in germany?
anybody here went to like austria to do it for the sake of it being cheaper?
@lunar garden turkey would be my best bet.
but the thing is, things like braces isnt a one time procedure, u have to go maybe once every one or 2 months to get it tightened and stuff like that
so getting it far from home might be tricky
it's more often than two months
plenty of KieferorthopƤden dont do controls for other doctors because why would they take responsibility for the work of someone else in case something goes wrong, also have different methods and plan the therapy different
and at the start its every 3 weeks
my teeth r kinda fucked too. i guess i will only be able to take care of that when m 30 or somethin
Denn gerade eine langfristige Behandlung mit einer Zahnspange erfordert regelmƤĆige Kontrollen und Anpassungen, um die gewünschte Zahnstellung zu erreichen. Allerdings ist es nicht realistisch, dass ein in Deutschland niedergelassener Zahnarzt oder KieferorthopƤde einen Patienten mit im Ausland eingepasster Zahnspange weiterbehandelt.
In der Konsequenz bedeutet das, dass es entweder erforderlich sein würde, wƤhrend der oftmals mehrere Jahre dauernden Behandlung regelmƤĆig wieder ins Ausland reisen zu müssen, um die Zahnspange vom behandelnden Zahnarzt einstellen und weiter anpassen zu lassen. Oder es müsste in Deutschland eine neue Zahnspange angefertigt werden, was ggf. mit weiteren Kosten verbunden ist ā im ungünstigen Fall muss dann zweimal für ein makelloses Gebiss bezahlt werden.
tldr, dont get braces outside germany if living in germany
well, when i was still at univ, people who i knew and had braces travelled 300-400km back to their KieferorthopƤde even inside the same country ;)
as if. Bad teeth lead to bad posture and back pain too, it's not just about the teeth themselves
That's actually not scientifically proven and insurance firms are currently looking into whether they still want to support braces as part of their dental package
hm. Interesting, all doctors I talked to about this seemed to have the same opinion
maybe to convince u into getting braces
nah, I don't deal with that kind of doctors ^^ And I had dire need of braces with or without that factor anyway
or maybe they were jus saying from anecdotal evidence. from all the patients they have seen over the years
while neither of the following work as proof of a causal relationship, there certainly seems to be considerable evidence in favour of a correlation between posture and teeth. Interesting that athletes would seem to suffer magnified effects, too
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12548-009-0001-4
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11332-012-0117-6
do you guys know any studienkolleg(s) that i can apply to with a b1 certificate?
there are plenty afaik
i only found two
one in leipzig and the other in frankfurt
the rest are asking for a minimum b2
Is car culture in the DACH countries different to 'Merica? I, along with most other people I know, go at least 10 mph (16kph) over the speed limit in basically every road
many places are surveilled with cameras that detect your speed, so if you go over the limit you're risking a lot. There should be a tolerance of 10% of the limit (so, with 50km/h, you can go as far as 55km/h) but don't quote me on that
so yeah it's different then
yeah i regularly go like 50% over the limit but i haven't gotten a single ticket so
@ashen mirage oh damn. thing is the first and last uni i checked for studienkollegs was Leipzig, and seeing b1 there made me think it was B1 everywhere. sozz
50% over the limit, you definitely get three points in Flensburg....
The speed tolerance is 3% btw and it's hard to say how many points you'll get based on a percentage here
If you drive 150 in a 100km/h zone, you'll get 2 points, for instance
AuĆerorts, that is
You can google "BuĆgeldkatalog" which should give you a list with fixed fees based on your speed
Ok yeah I guess it's quite different then lmao
I mean my state is notorious for crazay drivers too so it might not even be my entire country
@tame forum its fine, thanks for the help!
I jus want to confirm, The thing that we get when one moves to germany and goes to an Einwohnemelderamt is the "Meldebescheinung" yah?
Yes
thankss
i am currently out of ideas concerning an issue i am having here in germany. I am currently a student living in koblenz. soon moving to ingolstadt. I am having a lot of problems with my landlord. 4 months before i have to leave i sent him am email concerning me leaving the house. He didnt reply. ( please note that he has a tendency not to reply the emails) . In the email i asked him what should i do to end the contract usw. He left me with no answer. note: whenever there's things to talk about concerning his money- he usally reply my emails instantly. Last year he even tried to make us pay for waste water services , garbage trucks and all. But it was not included in our contract. he kept forcing us. Now , with 4 emails i sent him concerning my movement, he call me only 1 month before i go, then told me i have to pay for 3 more months because he didnt get any letter concerning that, he never told me i needed to do that, even if he left no instructions on how should we do i even tried to email him a kündigung letter through mail, and asked is this correct or not. Of course he did not replyy. in addition, he is also forcing us to find new people for the house. (i live in a house with 8 people). But we have seen that he already posted thehouse on immoscout24. What should i do? where can i ask for help?
You donāt have his phone number?
International office might be able to help you...but...maybe not so much. If thereās a Mieterverein near you, you can go there and have a consultation
Otherwise, Iām not sure what exactly else you can do, other than setting all the paper trails in order in case he wants to chase after you with it
Check it as well with your Mitbewohner
Maybe they have handled or heard something like this before
nothing from my mitbewohners...i'll try the mieterverrein nearby...i hope they can help me...
you can also check if there's any institution or verein devoted to helping your nationals with integration issues. If there is, they may give you a few pointers
hopefully you won't have to go through a lawyer, but what he's doing is definitely not allowed. You have no obligation to find someone who'd rent after you, and you did give notice of your leaving in advanceāit's not your responsibility if he can't receive it properly through a means that has been accepted and used by both. Just make sure to keep proof that you have contacted him when appropriate since he will certainly claim otherwise
okay
thank you
i also forwarded him an email giving him the proof that i already told hin
...
we also live in a house full of bed bugs and all, i never even met this man in person...am not even sure if that is allowed
you guys know better
please advise me
Wtf
exactlyy
i have to move out in like 2 weeks
my courses are starting on the 1st october
well, luckily for me my first landlord is a really nice guy, so I never had to go through anything of the sort. But a law is in place for all this and he can't violate it for free. If it turns out that you need a lawyer i doubt he'd come out on top, but do go to those vereins we recommended as soon as possible to get a clear idea on what your options are and what to do
okay..i'll go there
this sucks truly
because i never got any kind of problems here
I lived in germany for more than a year now... testdaf schƶn kompliziert...
It does, man
Frankly if after 2 months there are some things about the WG that doesnāt seem right, Iād already complain about it
the group before us reported to the landlord, he said he would do a treatment for the things...it never came
^
Yeah, definitely sounds like hes trying to trick you into another 3 months rent.
At least from what you've said, youve got a strong paper trail for this (email sent to an address that he's responded from before, including about apartment matters).
So thats good for protecting yourself.
There are some mean people out there
TIL
u heard of terrorists? they sound a bit mean too./s
Not the nicest of humans
I agree
okay thank you guys š
Btw @warped atlas after arriving in Germany, is it necessary that i first have to go to Einwohnermeldeamt and only then i can go to the AuslƤnderbehƶrde? Or is either order fine? Because when i was sending a general email to my local AuslƤnderbehƓrde, the person replied only [w/o answering the 3 questions i had asked]
"Guten Tag,
nach den mir vorliegenden Unterlagen sind Sie bisher nicht in Duisburg angemeldet.
Von daher bitte ich Sie, mir zunächst eine Kopie Ihres Nationalpasses und Ihres Aufenthaltstitels / Visums zu übersenden.".
Which makes me think the registering at the Einwohnermelde part has to come first.
No, itās more or less they need a copy of your passport in their document folders. They would have had it if you had registered, I guess. But it still doesnāt change anything much because you still need to give the proper paperwork to the ABH for all the other stuff (bank account, insurance, etc)
The Einwohnermeldeamt doesnāt take care of the insurance and all that shit
But they would take a copy of your passport
If itās your first time arriving
oh yah and that too..... on the website i cant find shit that i need to take with me
and btw i am not yet in germany
Thatās what you need to ask them
The ABH is supposed to give you a list of things to bring.
Your obligation is just to make an appointment with them, and getting a list of things to bring
As for the Einwohnermeldeamt, you can do that as soon as you arrive, no appointment (depending on the city)
oh okay, then i will inform the guy that i am not in germany and never have been, and what all stuff shud i get to the appointment
thanks
For questions about which documents you need and where to send them it is is important that, if you ask for help here, state
- how long you will stay in Germany
- if you are a student or a working person etc.
- which country you come from
This will make it a lot more easier to help you or sent you the helping links.
hth.
ohhh.
If thereās any way you can get a call with the civil worker, thatād make it WAY faster
yah but my german is broken š¦
You can write down anything you want to say and ask and ask for help then.
good luck.
one more teeny doubt. i will be living in the airbnb for the first 7 days, my studierendenwerk house wont be ready. can i still register my studierendenwerk address even though i wont actually be there for the first week?
or can i go to register only after i have officially moved in?
p.s. i have my contract and WohnungsgeberbestƤtigung with me already.
(something something Iām not german) they might want to send post there after you register, which could be an issue
They may have a mailing address and a address of residence. You can ask them to mail to the Airbnb for that week you're there and then redirect them to your new apartment when you can get mail from there. I am not sure if that's a real form, but it sounds like something the German bureaucracywould offer? You may say this to someone at the Einwohneramt, and they can leave a note on your file
sounds good. i will email them asking about this too.
Just a small recommendation: Keep the mails short and as precise as possible.
yah i will keep that in mind.
The Einwohnermeldeamt would send stuff to your address in the next few weeks, so if youāre only staying a week, you can safely give your future address.
Though if you want to be REALLY sure, ask them to send it to the AirBnb, especially if itās expected to come in the next days, and if you somehow have to move out already, there is an option by deutsche Post, you can do it online, to do a Nachsendeauftrag for a month.
@warped atlas i looked up the nachsendservice. and idk if i am missing something out, but they dont have monthly prices. they jus have annual and prices for 2 years. lol. or do they maybe give the monthly option when u try to buy it?
damn
But strange...because I moved to Stuttgart, and I couldāve swornwd I got a 3-6 months one...
exactly.... this has maybe jus become a service for a niche target who keep on moving around in germany. no point for us.
wait how can u see the option?
It was one of the first things that was offered
I guess they changed their service
Sorry, man
2]Ā Nach dem Termin mit Ihnen [für die Meldebescheinigung], gibt es irgendeine Dokumente, die Sie mir per Post zusenden wird? Wenn ja, nach wie viel zeit?Ā
Ich frage, weil ich die erste Woche in einem Hotel wohnen werde und erst nach einem Woche ich in meinem dauerhaften Wohnung umziehen werde. Wenn die Dokumente per Post nur 1-6 Tagen braucht, gebe ich die Anschrift meines Hotels. wenn die Dokumente noch länger braucht, denn gebe ich die Anschrift meines dauerhaften Wohnung für die Zustellung.
m sending this Email. is there anything wrong with it?
#writing might be a good place to post that too (albeit in a Google Doc)
Ran my email to Deustche Bank through that channel a bit back
yah i guess i will post it there
Braucht man Mietvertrag, um sich fuer die Aufenthaltstitel zu bewerben?
Ich komme nach Deutschland erst am 24. Septemper, und ich muss noch an der Uni einschreiben. Ist es genug Zeit bis zum 1. Oktober? Die meisten Studenten sind schon seid Anfang September da, und ich bin wie so eine rote Laterne.
guys I need Turkish food recommendations in Germany. Are there any big turkish food chains in germany, or specifically Berlin? I want to try some turkish food and was looking for recommendations as well
there's bound to be a dƶnerbude somewhere :d
theres this cool program by CIEE where you go to berlin for a month or so an dlive with a host family and visit potsdam and stuff and learn german better
i think im gonna (if my family can afford it, and im not otherwise occupied) do it
@tropic edge there are no chains that I'm aware of, you'll have to search for yourself
@tame forum Nach dem Termin mit Ihnen (für die Meldebescheinigung), gibt es Dokumente, die Sie mir per Post zusend_en_ werden? Wenn, welche und innerhalb welcher Frist?
Ich frage, weil ich die erste Woche in einem Hotel wohnen werde und erst nach einer_r_ Woche meine ab dem... geltende dauerhafte Wohnadresse nutzen werde. Wenn die Dokumente per Post nur 1-6 Tage brauch_en_, würde ich Ihnen gerne die Anschrift meines Hotels geben. Wenn die Dokumente jedoch längere Zeit brauch_en_, würde ich Ihnen die Anschrift mitteilen, unter der ich ab dem... dauerhaft erreichbar sein werde.
((this would be a better wording, please do not forget to give the data))
As far as I know the cheapest one is the one for 12 months. I would suggest to use this one.
It might sound expensive but this way you are on the safe side.
@exotic barn as far as I know you only have to give proof that you have been granted a place on University X in Germany.
see §16 here:
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_aufenthg/englisch_aufenthg.html
@heady crane nah, as far as I remember at least last year, there was a shorter option of 3-6 months
@tropic edge The only Turkish "chain" I'm aware of (at least, the only one ive seen multiple of) is Ali Baba. Most of the ones ive seen seem to be independently run
Try using zomato to look for turkish restaurents
@warped atlas well, I could not find anything on the official page of the German Post AG.
https://www.deutschepost.de/de/n/nachsendeservice/haeufige-fragen.html
Hello ! I'm Moroccan and I want to study abroad in Germany
I need to know which requirements I need and what should I Do to study in germany
I want to study medicine and I'm in my last year in morocco before academic universities
Someone can help me ?
Well i wanna do the same too but from what i heared it depends on the uni
Each uni has different requirements from the other
But u should have at least B2 ig
But i will send a link that may help you
for B2 level I know that I'm asking for requirements of student VISA , when apply to an university ...
https://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/en/ @proven rock
If you want to study or complete your doctorate in German or English, the DAAD has the information you need. This section contains German and internationally oriented Bachelor's, Master's and doctoral degree programmes, but also language and special courses.
ok thx
I think that this link may help you
Np xd
Is this what i need cause if it's not i have another link
I don't need this link , I'm searching for what I should do to study medicine in germany
This link is talking about the courses to learn german and don't have medicine area or informational about that
ok
Actually if u scrolled down u will find sth called degree programmes click more
Then u can search for medicen in it
@proven rock
thx
I hope that i helped š
I don't understand much @amr#5568
need just informations to study and apply for an university in germany
Itās possible, I just donāt know how exactly
I think itās easier to switch within the Bundesland tho
Mind telling which uni and which city you're staying in at the moment?
@exotic barn first decide the uni u want to go to. and then decide the process. not the other way around. and then start asking your target uni about the Ects requirements and how u can fulfill them.
all unis are different in the way the accept transfers and new students.
for example @fair talon was missing some business course credits, and his uni told him that a MOOC will suffice.
this MIGHT be the case for the uni u want to go to
yeah research is king when it comes to studying in Germany. There are so many things you need to look up that we can't look up for you or won't understand because we don't know your background or literally anything about you.
Also, dont be afraid to email the Uni directly. Worst they can say is "sorry, I dont know"
Thats how I found out about the MOOC course substitution with mine. I had emailed directly Admissions asking about their requirements
and also, if ur comfortable with english, most uni staff speak english too. so dont be afraid to call
I was answering the two guys up above who asked about travelling to Germany
I mean, thats more of a how you spin it thing I think?
It'll look a bit odd, might come up as a question I suppose, but if you pass your classes and get the degree, I dont think it really would matter much š
@exotic barn ^^ employers are people too, they can understand why the swtiching might have taken place. people switch unis all the time for different reasons. and its not so uncommon [i think] that employers would think its a red flag.
@exotic barn really? How so
i dont think it should be a problem unless you swapped 11 times and it took you 12 years to get to bachelor
or equivalent
Yeah
@warped atlas @fair talon i kinda have one more doubt. my cities alien office hasnt mentioned the docs i shud bring on their website [i have sent them a mail asking them for the docs] still i was curious if it was the same case everywhere and i checked Hamburgs website......and all the PDF's of the stuff thats required is beutifully listed
1] would it be fine if i jus referred to hamburgs pdf and see the docs that i need to bring? i imagine the same documents would be needed since this is a legal matter no?
Just a general recommendation:
I know it is much easier to do anything by email but if it comes to legal matters of any kind, use the good old snail mail and registered letters with "Rückschein" so that you have proof you have sent something and it was received and read by the right person.
As for emails some landlord tend to say someone else was on their computer or they never got the email etc. pp (some officed as well) so the snail mail is the best way, especially when it comes to matters regarding any legal aspects and certain periods where you have to answer within.
Mhm. Email is for practicality. Nothing beats paper for a 'paper trail' though
@tame forum Documents for? If youre talking student residence visa, then yeah, I'd say thats a pretty safe bet (I brought extra documents to mine though).
The base requirements are fairly uniform for those visas
@fair talon yeh i mean student resident visa
@heady crane thanks for the tip. And i will put it in use once m in Germany. Since m not there rn, its email for me. =(
I don't think their claiming someone else was on their computer could have any legal validity whatsoever
it's their responsibility to keep their emails, as well as post and any other means of private communciation, private, and certainly not the fault of the person sending the letter lol
furthermore, since the spoken word can be legally binding, I don't see why emails wouldn't be. As long as you can prove that you sent them.
there are also ways to send emails and receive a confirmation when they are received
however, obligatory "i'm not a lawyer" here
@tight kelp well, this is a good opinion but I just recommended going for a safe side which will probably lead to the fewest problems.
I agree with you in all almost all parts, but I also know that the concept of proof is harder when it comes to emails as there can be technical problems etc.
Postal registered letters (with or without "Rückschein") are (yes, this is old-fashioned) accepted as proof of action much more easier and quicker.
And if comes to periods of time you have to answer or write within, I would rather you for the safe way.
But this is everyoneĀ“s own decision, I just wrote a recommendation (out of experience... took me 3 years to get through a lawsuit because the e-mail sending was doubted as well as the receiving... š¦
Also, even if youre not in Germany, international paper mailing is cheap af (usually only a Euro or two, I think even less if youre still in the EU)
Additionally, if I recall correctly ("I'm also not a lawyer"), all court documents must be in German. So if you think he might drag it out legally, it might be a good idea to send it in German, however broken it may be, to avoid paying for an official translation later (#writing could be of some help)
@tame forum Yeah, only thing I would watch out for then would possibly be any minute changes in the application form (For example, the application form on its website says Hamburg at the bottom of it), and a difference in fees (The Hamburg Welcome Center implied to me when I was there that theyre not implementing the new blocked account amounts until the next semester, other cities might be different)
Oh i already updated my blocked acc with the new fees
But yah i had that in my mind to check if hamburg or somthin is written anywhete
Becoz that wud Make the form specific for hamburg
At the end of the Application form, next to the signature š
depends on many factors:
german language knowledge
budget [shud be more than 10,000 euros per year]
marks in previous education
the type of education u want to persue
the subject u want to persue
the citizenship u have
and maybe some more things...... but until we dont know this stuff we cant help
@proven rock
I begin learning german in goethe institut this year
I can't afford this high budget so i will do student job or public intern university
I have good marks
I want to study medicine
chirurgy cardiology
@tame forum
@proven rock
need C2 german for medicine in germany
u will need to show 10,000 atleast for the first year to get visa. othervise no visa
good marks are a plus, since medical is competitive aff in germany [afaik].
are you going for a masters [specialisation] or a bachelors course?
do you have your medschool diploma yet or do you want to study
i want to study , i don't have diploma
can't help you then
I'm in bachelor year in morocco
but looking at how Germans require something close to 1.0 NC to study medicine and the Wartezeit is 12 semesters, i would expect the field to be extremely competitive. For a second there i thought you got your diploma, that's why i got confused. Got no clue about Uni-procedures tho.
but vahti i it competitive for masters too?
there's no masters
*specialisation?
its 6 years with three exams in between
weiterbildung, depends where and how
Uniklinik can be competitive
small hospitals - surgery? no
oh shid weiterbildung is competitive too
they take everyone who has two hands and not a vacuum between his ears(and an Approbation)
you do Common Trunk for surgery in germany, first two years are general, you can do it practically everywhere
so basically the weiterbildung takes places in the hospital itself?
and not some college/university?
you are normally working
just gathering stamps
over years
and then take the exam
so what should i do ?
this year I will complete my bachelor degree
since u have already started it, switching is gonna be a hard option
exactly, so u wont be a student any more then š
that means u can find work
you need to do X this, Y that(the list is really long, for me its like 12 000 computer tomographies, few thousands MRIs, a few thousand ultrasounds, and some invasive), get it all signed by a doctor who's approved to teach and after working for 5 years and gathering all the stamps you can take your exam
damn
but i don't have diploma to have work
okay now m confused
me too š
okay: so ur completing ur degree in medicine this year.
which means u will be a doctor
which means that shud be enough to look for work
I'm completing my degree to begin studying medicine
You will receive a bachelors in medicine this year, right?
ohhh
no
i think he is doing pre medical course
Ah
to join a medical university
oh actually there's bachelor in medicine
i will begin studying medicine
implemented in 2009 or 2010
huh why would there not be?
so what should i do ? i'm confused
@proven rock well, do u know german?
concept is new to me :D
itās a pretty popular degree here (well, as popular as a degree with numerus clausus can be) and as far as I can tell fully integrated into the usual university structure
I'm A1 and i'm beginning learning it in Goethe @tame forum
Thats a good start š Goethe is nice
well it can take a year and a half to reach the level required for german unis
for medical
can u wait that much?
germany has it weird with doctor titles, because they often get a fake phd after graduating
;)
Ask questions, we answer. "Help me" is very vague and non-specific.
We have been trying to offer specific answers where we can
Otherwise our answer will just be "it depends."
This part in particular might help with the confusion
yea i wasn't sure what he meant, because he wrote something about being public intern, doing cardiology
seemed like someone who got his uni done
(or someone who has totally no clue how studying medicine works)
you can make ma summary please in DM @tame forum
Funny enough, wouldnt the medicine program not even need a bachelors technically to apply? Since its supposed to be something you go to after your (13th?) year?
In Germany that is*
Of course, it does help with meeting the Abitur equivalency requirements I think
@proven rock what do you mean?
They want you to copy paste everything you said and send it to them in a private message I suppose @tame forum
he can find way better info on the internet lol
Probably in Arabic/French too lol
Theres a lot of Moroccan students here, I'm sure someone has written something by now
yea i somehow find getting a "semi-free" spot at medschool here quite... unlikely
i didn't find more infos in internet
Nothing at all?
giving how many germans are actually traveling to other countries to get medschool diploma because there's like 13 people per NC spot in here
ok thx
how does it actually look like, you compete with other Germans over a spot, and one with the best grades takes it?
because i assume that there's no free Abteilungen just for foreigners for them to study for free and leave the country
but then, germany sometimes is that stupid
https://www.medicalstudyguide.com/admission-to-medicine-in-germany.html this site has a decent checklist of requirements @proven rock
@vague brook Think it depends on the program/uni. I think some have quotas for internationals, others do strictly 'best grade + cover letter wins'
UniversitƤt Hamburg does the latter I believe (they do assign 'hardship' points to the scoring system though, which can compensate a little for grades, but not entirely)
from what i've read getting a spot in medschool here is hilarious
I mean, I feel like medschool is a bit crazy everywhere š
The only program in the US where you started preparing during your high school (10th-12th year) years
i mean i had to be in the 0,1% of the best to get a spot too, but it somehow seemed less complicated
I had a classmate who wanted to study med (she ended up not doing so) and saw some of the stuff she was learning for the test
it was essentially a super long concentration / memory / pattern-finding test
stuff like āhereās a list of people and attributes, now work on these unrelated problems for 30 minutes, now answer stuff about that list from beforeā
exams during medschool were fun, sometimes they took 240 minutes and you wanted to shot yourself before finishing 1/3 of it
what I donāt know is if that test is the only thing she had to do, and if not, how important it was
Well, got my syllabi for my Masters courses, and 90% of them are Final exam only
but the uni itself is just a fat big filter, because 90% of stuff you learn is irrelevant later anyway
(As far as grading is concerned)
it's just to check if you are dedicated enough
;-)
especially the pre-clinical is an absurd
@proven rock Just to comment on something you mentioned earlier: The student visa won't care if your plan is to work 25 hours a day every day of the year. You need to have the visa amount (10500somethingā¬) in a blocked account/have someone with sufficient income sign a legal guarentee to support you during your studies.
Thats a requirement before studies start
I took a year and a half off between my bachelors and my masters to save up enough for that
how ?
How what?
lol
@fair talon how to have work and I don't have diploma , I want to begin my studies , there is some universities that afford food / sleeping room and student's job in Germany and all this is cheap and I can afford money for it ?
@proven rock he got a bachelors degree first. and then worked with his degree to earn money and save. it and then go for masters
meanwhile u dont have a bachelors degree.
so he wont be able to help you about how to save money w/o having a degree.
@tame forum ok
np
I'm getting my phd first then probably going to Germany
Ist es besser zu schreiben Praktikum, Name der Firma oder Praktikantin, Name der Firma im Lebenslauf?
Danke im Voraus
geht mMn beides, sollte aber überall gleich sein, also, wenn du Praktikum schreibst, dann auch Studium und nicht Studentin, etc
silly doubt i guess: so Aldi talk [sim card] has a prepaid option. 8 euro = 28 days worth of use [includes unlimited calls/ unlimited SMS and 2GB data.]
then later on their website i saw "You can buy vouchers of 5 , 15 and 30 Euros" this is only for buying internet data right? i mean what else can one do with the money vouchers.
uh, call people?
:D
Is it unlimited to every provider, or just the same?
and calling someone outside of the country usually doesnt count towards unlimited either
ah yah damn forgot about that.
and wait a min never thought about ""unlimited to every provider, or just the same" i jus assumed every provider
idk y
you charge the amounts so you could pay the 8 euros a month
It's a prepaid package sort of thing
as in u jus load it in ur mobile and 8 bucks get deducted every month?
is that what ur saying?
yup
ahh
it could be the same or all of them, tbh im not sure because as for my german phone number, i just charge enough for my number not to get locked
98% people still use my polish number and i just need the german one to occasionally "get stuff done", although i often call from my polish one just out of habit
:p
oh yah i bet EU ppl can jus use their numbers everywhere and stuff
yea i also hate the german number because its freaking half a page long
u lot be sharing everything
;)
its okay german number hates u too.
U.a.e. is 7
u shud move here
mine is 10 long but the first digit is 0 for all numbers (itās the āinlandā prefix)
so really itās 9
0 or +41 followed by 9 digits
@tame forum I'm on LidlConnect (same thing basically, just Lidl instead).
Basically, you got the "activation" card, which gets you your first 28 days + the physical SIM card.
Then you have "account credit" cards, which add credit to your prepaid account.
At the end of your 28 days, the account tries to use another 28 days worth of credit (a 5⬠plan will try to use 5ā¬, 10⬠will use 10ā¬, etc). These "account credit" cards can be used to add that amount, so you can use the number for longer than 28 days.
The credit can also be used if you call long distance/use more data than youre allowed.
Using those account credit cards, ive had the same Lidl number for about 3 months now š
ahhh. yah. makes sense
You can also use it if you decide you want to change what plan youre on too. I was on the 10-12ish ⬠plan before I switched to the 5⬠one (I basically live, commute, and work in wifi now, so its just for google searching between spots)
damn lidl has a 5 euro plan too?
i will look that up
cuz i dont need calls and sms and shit too.
i just checked my mobile webpage
damn shits expensive
no wonder im still using my polish one where i have everything i need for 5ā¬, including 20gb of internet 
thats terribly expensive
Cheapest ive found with German companies š¤·
yea i can understand that
