archived-culture-study-visa

[warped atlas]

Think of it this way, you have one year with your 10236 euros to get by

any extra money you get, would be for your own use

or if you want

you gather it to pay for the next year

[fair talon]

I have enough for both years already 👀
Im only underbudget after all expenses by ~3-400

So extra money = food money 🤤

[tight kelp]

@tropic edge ok then order an espresso, in italian cafés, if you can. Try it both with and without sugar (on different occasions: too much coffee is not good at all, and espresso is not diluted like american-style coffee) and see what you like best

personally i enjoy the flavour of coffee but i stopped drinking it since years. It doesn't make me feel very good overall, and i prefer tea

[tropic edge]

I'm trying the latte macchiato right now

I'll note that down: espresso in Italian cafes with and with sugar

Issa good drink!!

I'll try the espresso of this next time

[tight kelp]

"of this"? 🤔

[tropic edge]

If you scroll up a bit you'll see what I'm referring to

The Ja! Latte Macchiato I just tried. I will try the red one next, and if I remember correctly it said espresso on it but I'm not sure

[tight kelp]

that's not espresso then :D

[tropic edge]

You coffee purists will bring this world to pieces

[tight kelp]

you have to get it from a coffee machine or a coffee maker

[foggy prism]

*peace

[tight kelp]

otherwise it's not coffee, it's just a coffee-flavoured drink

especially when it's industrial stuff

[tropic edge]

You know it's funny, when one's standards are so high for coffee, one probably won't enjoy the really cheap coffee of the market

I for instance can't really tell the difference between the two, unless I try something really good and drink it often. I've had good coffee at friends but like once a month, so I forget how good it tastes compared to bad coffee

[foggy prism]

you get over it

honestly

[tropic edge]

What do you mean Sascha?

[foggy prism]

I mean, I got used to good coffee

but I don’t have easy access to it anymore

and now I again don’t really mind it

[tropic edge]

Aha ok, that's good I guess

But you still long for that good coffee sometimes right?

[foggy prism]

like, I still prefer the good stuff, but honestly I’m not even good at brewing coffee

[tame forum]

Jus be like me and drink milk w/o coffee.

[faint plaza]

Coffee is life

[solemn bay]

How is Italian espresso like? @tight kelp

Cause this girl from Italy said to me, she doesn't drink as much coffee here because you can't get espresso.

And I was really confused what that's meant to mean, since our coffee is espresso based also.

[foggy prism]

well, the preparation matters I suppose. an espresso cooker makes quite different coffee
which I, for unhealthy reasons, tend to drink in ever so slightly larger portions than you’d drink espressos
you know. if a doppio is two espressos I guess my regular homemade coffee would be a quadruppio

[tight kelp]

(quadruplo)

that's indeed not very healthy :P

we call it lungo btw, not sure i've heard doppio 🤔

@solemn bay well I never had australian expresso for comparison :P You should ask her

it's served in really small cups, it looks really dark

[solemn bay]

I mean you're just using espresso machine with ground beans and water, right?

[tight kelp]

afaik ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn bay]

I feel like Italian and Australian coffee it probably basically the same.

[tight kelp]

if she means the flavour, then it's probably the quality of the beans themselves. That changes a lot

if not that, then she's just being a typical italian xD

[solemn bay]

I see. 😄

Thanks for the answer.

[foggy prism]

well actually it would be a quadruplo with milk I spose. I just put on the espresso pot, pour it into a cup and add some milk as usual

[compact slate]

So it says on hochschulstart that an offer exists in one of my applications, and if I take it all the other ones are withdrawn.
Is this the last stage? Like after I accept it I get enrolled?

[fair talon]

Well, when I received an offer, the actual enrollment happened after completing a few more steps (paying the semester fee, submitting health insurance, other paperwork, etc)

But that was just for the formal Enrollment certificate

[compact slate]

But in terms of the process, it's done right? like I got a Studienplatz?

[fair talon]

I believe if its been offered and you accept it, yeah

After that, it's just Papierkram, Papierkram, Papierkram 😅
But an offer is an offer

[compact slate]

I see thanks, if anyone else could confirm it would be nice

[tame forum]

yah...... when the uni offers u a place. its just that. an offer. u aint an official student yet. only after enrolling at the unniversity do u become a student

[compact slate]

so that was my question, if I accept the offer do I enroll? if not what is it then

[fair talon]

You accept, and they reserve a place for you, which, upon submitting finalized versions of some key documents, turns into a certified enrollment

[tame forum]

the "reserving " thing is i guess due to it being a restricted course
no restriction courses: i jus got my admission letter. and i enroll physcially at the uni in october

[fair talon]

Think of it as conditional enrollment on the condition that you submit the required documents and fees by deadline (usually the start of the semester) 👀

[compact slate]

ok thanks guys

[fair talon]

No problem. Congrats btw 😊

[compact slate]

thanks!

[lunar garden]

for people who took telc test before

how do you see the result again?

[desert token]

what would you say is a typical time between interview and a job offer in Germany? or does it vary too much

[warped atlas]

I know that my current company had 4 levels of vetting, all in the span of 1,5 months.

In another (previous interview) I was shortlisted by TI, got the call and was interviewed directly, and finally given the „sorry“ about 3 weeks later

[tame forum]

Wait so how is it "my company"

If u got a sorry?p

[warped atlas]

Ah, I meant I‘m working at another company now 😃

[icy mist]

@lunar garden i waited 6 weeks for my results but this could vary depending on holiday time etc. or do you mean you lost your result and want to see your results again?

[lunar garden]

that already answered my question @icy mist

except, another question, where did you get your result, is it mailed?

[icy mist]

got it mailed

[lunar garden]

cool, should be a week or two more then ^^;

[icy mist]

i asked the people administering the test when I should expect my results and how and they told me within four weeks by mail, but it took longer

[tame forum]

damn. goethe is way faster

its weird when language test like test daf and telc take like 1 to 1.5 months to correct. soeaking gets graded on the spot. which leaves listening (fixed answers which the corrector can refer to) , reading (fixed answers) , and writing [which is the only paper that needs time]

[fair talon]

Quick question: For those recycling machines at Lidl and Aldi, do you take the cap off the bottle?

[fluid moss]

@fair talon you dont really at any store

keep the bottle as intact as possible

[fair talon]

👌 usually we take them off in the US, but we recycle in bulk rather than individually.
Thanks for a quick answer

[errant ether]

Why do you take them off?

[hardy wren]

^

[exotic barn]

We don't take them off, but if the bottle has any dent, you.are.fucked.

[tropic edge]

Guys if I want to work in Germany, now that I'm a bit confident in my German what are cool jobs I can take up? I want to try something out of service in restaurants. A cool experience is what I'm looking for.

[faint plaza]

Hotels,Warehouse,Supermarket,Outbound Jobs @tropic edge

Depends

What ya really wanna do

[tropic edge]

Something nerdy, like with lots of information. I worked at a book sale before and had to learn so many titles. I would like something like that

Something were I'm constantly engaged physically and mentally

Only physically or only mentally works as well

I thought about doing construction but idk if that needs some type of Ausbildung or schooling

[faint plaza]

Construction needs an Ausbildung

Do you Know the difference between cow and pig when it comes to meat? @tropic edge

If so

Try being a butcher salesman

[tame forum]

why would a butcher need a salesman?

[tropic edge]

I can't sell pig tho, for personal reasons

[tame forum]

muslim/vegan detected

[tropic edge]

I can sell cow meat tho xD

Muslim detected

[tame forum]

eid mubarak

[tropic edge]

Thanks mate, to you to if you celebrate

[tame forum]

ye i do

[faint plaza]

@tame forum cause the butchers produce the stuff

Lol

They don’t have time for that dude

[jaunty oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAt02x4Pplc&t=1705s ist das der österreichische Aktzent?

[warped atlas]

Mietanfang : xx.xx Mietende: yy.yy

Danach verlängert sich der Mietvertrag stillschweigend.

That means if I don‘t do anything, my contract will extend by itself, or?

[exotic barn]

Correct

[tame forum]

thats a cool contract

[tropic edge]

I need help picking a city to move to. I'll be studying in a TU, Maschinenbau to be exact. Now I've been staying in Berlin for the past couple of months and I'm not sure I'd want to go to the TU here. I just want to move to a place with relatively not expensive rent, cool atmosphere, and so. I don't really know what I'm looking for but shoot me some ideas

[tame forum]

i dont live in germany or anything. but theres TU Dresden..... and its in the East so might be cheap

[tropic edge]

I've been advised to not go to TU Dresden because it's in the east and not so Arab friendly, but I've never visited

[tame forum]

i mean there are like 9 main TU's n you can easily go through them one by one by ur priorities.
there are also other TU's like Clausthal, Dortmund, Kaiselautern and maybe more which might fit u better

jus search TU or something on google and u will get a list of all the TU's in germany

[warped atlas]

I heard that TU Darmstadt is also pretty good and well connected (as in job prospects)

Otherwise, check KIT out (Karlsruhe), not a TU but also one of the very well-known ones in the south

Or you could also go to TUM, but then it‘s not gonna be cheap

[tame forum]

but if he is an expat, the fees in KIT will be exp

cuz KIT is in BW

[warped atlas]

I‘m looking to expand RL friends, and of course the usual suggestion in Germany is to join a Verein. Yes of course it‘s not just for sports.

But what‘s the difference between that and joining a Gym membership and going to the classes there, however? Other than Vereins that have other things except sports.

People who have joined different Vereins, even at different cities, what do you think makes a good Verein to you? (Other than it has activities of your interest)

[exotic barn]

I used to play volleyball in a Verein for quite some time. A good Verein usually has lots of people you get along with. In addition to that, we often went out and did stuff together (gaming nights, etc)

[warped atlas]

So is it sorta normal, to like, jump between two-three volleyball Vereins because the first two wasn‘t as fun?

Heck, is that even possible? Within the same city? (Scarcity issue)

[faint plaza]

Also ein Verein macht für mich des saufen am Wochenende aus

Bzw wo ich die Leute auch außer halb der Vereins Zeiten treffe

🤷🏼‍♂️

[warped atlas]

Das ist das Ziel, man. Leute in der Freizeit zu treffen, aber nicht (nur) zu besaufen werden 😉

[faint plaza]

Ja klar

Jedem das seine du

Fußball Verein

Schach

Volleyball

Geht alles

Gibt sogar Diabetes Vereine

🤷🏼‍♂️

[tame forum]

Dfuq

Lol

[faint plaza]

Jup

[tame forum]

guys what does AöR mean in front of compnay names?

i didnt understand the definition on Google

what i understood is its a governmental company(?)

[dry nacelle]

yea its basically a public service institution thats backed by law and funded by the state

like public broadcasting services

[tame forum]

achso. Thanksss

[compact slate]

Does anyone have experience with N26? And paying the semester fees?

Because the uni requires a Bankauszug for enrollment

Kontoauszug*

[faint plaza]

N26 is a complete online Bank I believe

Therefore they don’t have Kontoauszug

Maybe only via there app

[warped atlas]

There is a Kontoauszug

Just go online and print it yourself

I used that to apply for UK visa last time

No issue

The Uni needs a Kontoauszug? 🤔 never heard that....

[warped atlas]

Hooo....

Well, screenshots no, but Kontoauszug from N26 has enough just like any other....

Let‘s see if I can find a clipped image of that...

I mean...what else do you wanna see?

Isn‘t that the same from a regular one from Sparkasse?

[compact slate]

I don't know @warped atlas I'm still not in germany

I will open a bank account and apply for insurance sometime next week

[warped atlas]

That notification is more or less you need to give proof to TU Berlin that you‘ve transferred the money for the semester

Which is kinda weird...(backwards, I mean) cause when I was in HS Mannheim, I didn‘t need to prove this, I think....

Although that was for the subsequent semesters. The first one, I can‘t remember

[compact slate]

also when I apply for a student health insurance say TK or AOK, do I need to prove somehow that I'm admitted?

because I only have the Zulassungsbescheinigung

and the uni requires a Versicherungsbescheinung for the Immatrikulation

[faint plaza]

Than you have to show them that you got a Versicherung

[compact slate]

show who? the uni?

[faint plaza]

Yes

[compact slate]

yeah but do I need somehting for the insurance company?

how do they know I am a student?

[faint plaza]

Tell them.
And my guess would be that you show them afterwards that you are a student

Or the paper where the TU Berlin requires the versicherungs Bescheinigung

[compact slate]

also is it possible to apply for insurance if I still don't have an apartment?

[faint plaza]

Puh idk about that :x

[compact slate]

hmm

[tame forum]

@compact slate i used expatrio for.my insurance (partnership with TK) and they gave me w/o residence or visa

Basically TK did give the insurance confirmation w/o any visa/residence proof

[compact slate]

I see

did you do that online or locally there?

[tame forum]

But i am not sure if it is something that is normal with TK or only because i did it with expatrio (partnered company)

@compact slate fully online

Infact i still dont have my visa

N still not in Germany

[compact slate]

and did you need a document for the immatrikulation? like I did?

oh

[tame forum]

@compact slate jus to.make.sure.... "Immatrikulation means enrollment ya?

[compact slate]

yeah

[tame forum]

Btw what does "Kontoauszug" mean? Blocked acc statement?

I cud help u better if i knew what it.meant

[compact slate]

I was told I need Anmeldung for health insurance but that dosn't sound right

[fair talon]

Idk about TK, but for AOK, they wanted my Anmeldung and my letter of admission (not certificate, since that requires getting health insurance first)

[compact slate]

hmm

[fair talon]

They need a billing address 🤷

Idk, all I know is they asked for both of those for me

Didnt need visa/residence stuff though, im assuming since you kinda need to prove insurance for that

[tame forum]

Yahh^

[fair talon]

Visa / residence permit*

[compact slate]

but for anmeldung I need an apartment

[fair talon]

Mhm

You need anmeldung for a bank account too

Blocked account*

[tame forum]

@compact slate if u havnt madr a blocked acc yet.... I wid recommend using expatrios value package..... Got insurance and blocked account snd a few more insuranves (travel and liablity")

[compact slate]

but I need a bank account to get an apartment

[tame forum]

And only submitted my passport copy for the entire process

Nothing else

Sorry for the spelling mistakes..... M on mobile

And the entire thing is online too

https://www.expatrio.com/value-package

[compact slate]

Deutsche Bank provides Sperrkonto without anmeldung

[tame forum]

The process witht them is really lengthy

If ur not in Germany yet

Wsit nvm ur talking abt sperrkonto

Sorry

I thought u said blocked acc

[fair talon]

I had bad luck with Deutsche Bank's remote opening process 😅 had to open it after I arrived

Four tries with the consulate staff doing their best to help and they rejected it every time ;-;

[compact slate]

I will go to berlin next week to do it

locally

I just wish the uni would have given me a deadline so soon

[fair talon]

The uni?
Dont think they usually care about blocked accounts

Unless youre talking about health insurance

[compact slate]

no but I need to pay them

[fair talon]

Ah, ya

I had an easy time with TransferWise

(Thanks again for whoever reccomended it here)

Still waiting for the Welcome Center to respond to my email though >.> been a week and a half, but they took 2 last time

[faint plaza]

Kurze Frage.
Allgäu,Garmisch Parten Kirchen oder Rottal ob der Tauber als Wochenend Trip?

[mystic anvil]

Shisha Bar bei Ahmed um die Ecke als Wochenend Trip👌

[faint plaza]

😒

[coarse basin]

Anyone go to Humboldt University in Berlin?

[patent vale]

Me no hauptstadtleute

[brisk lotus]

@exotic barn you usually carry on like normal up to the limit they have (9 semesters for example)

gotta read the studienordnung

[warped atlas]

@exotic barn I heard stories of people changing to another uni at a different Bundesland...

[tame forum]

Wait whT?

U wud have to change uni if u cant finish it in the 3 yrs that given u? I thought most of the ppl dont finish it in this time....

And that they jus.... Extend?

[exotic barn]

You don't have to change unis, no

You just carry on normally and finish it whenever you're ready to

[warped atlas]

U wud have to change uni if u cant finish it in the 3 yrs that given u? I thought most of the ppl dont finish it in this time....

Being a student in Germany (or Europe in general) has a LOT of perks. Yes I heard of people who just skip a semester but kept their enrollment....I think it was called Urlaubssemester?

Other than that, the impression that I got from the German students, is that, they do finish in the time alloted....even if they extend by a few semesters, but really it depends on the Studienordnung

Some wouldn‘t allow you more than staying for 9 semesters, meaning at the 9th semester you must do your Bachelorarbeit...but it is highly probable that people finish things at the 5th semester as was planned, and then just not do the Bachelorarbeit, but instead „enjoy life“. That‘s also a possibility.

[icy sandal]

Should i choose public Krankenkasse (TK, AOK) or private one (MAWISTA) if I'm about to study in Germany?

[exotic barn]

The former

[warped atlas]

Go for the public. Even after you finish and then work here.....go for the public

If you go over a certain limit on your income, then you might benefit from the private

[tight kelp]

there's also ersatzkassen, not just public and private

[fair talon]

If you meet the requirements, public is usually a decent amount cheaper and still covers a ton

On an unrelated note: Fuck the Hamburg Welcome Center 😂

[fair talon]

Ugh, seriously though, what they did is stressing me out...

So my appointment is for Sept. 9, which is all fine and dandy.
But the problem is I arrived quite a while ago, so my 90 days visa free travel (American) is up before then (Aug 20 to be exact)

So I email them August 6th, asking if the appointment is sufficient to continue staying, or if I need to do anything to remain legally.

They wait until 5 minutes after they close on Friday to say "Oh yeah, no, you need to get a temporary residence permit. Bring your filled documents in".

A: they didnt say what documents
B: that gives me literally 1 day to come in

😭

C: MY F'ING BLOCKED ACCOUNT still isnt activated >.< (Damnit Deutsche)

Okay, lookied it up on the official site, it looks like the temporary one only requires a passport and the generic residence permit form (no health insurance, blocked account, etc).
Still stressful af though

[marsh garden]

Hey, for those of you studying in DE from the USA, what were the requirements you needed to have in order to apply? I know you need a diploma from high school to show you completed it, but is there a specific grade requirement / SAT or ACT score? Or does every university have very different requirements?

I can't find a conclusive answer to this through researching and I guess I want to know if I would even have a chance sine my high school grades weren't so great.

[fair talon]

Im assuming this is for a Bachelors?

[marsh garden]

Yep!

[fair talon]

https://www.uni-assist.de/en/tools/info-country-by-country/details-country/country/us-1/

*"A US high school diploma alone does not allow you to study in Germany. We will assess your certificate using the specifications issued by the “Zentralstelle für ausländisches Bildungswesen” (Central Office for Foreign Education – ZAB). If you fulfil all requirements, your high school diploma qualifies you for the Studienkolleg (preparatory course) and the "Feststellungsprüfung" (university qualification exam).
Direct studies are possible only if you have passed AP exams and achieved specific results. Please note:

AP examinations can only be taken into consideration, if the examination was taken during your time at high school.

AP must be issued by the College Board. Results issued by the High School are not enough."*

Also, this is from an older post (2011) so don't take it as 100% confirmed, but to give you general idea:

https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/213856-american-student-wanting-to-study-in-germany/

If you want a hard confirmation, your best bet is probably the "specifications issued by the "Zentralstelle für ausländisches Bildungswesen" " that Uni-Assist uses

[marsh garden]

Nah it doesn't look like I qualify Looks like I'll have to study a year in the USA and if I do well there, then I'll qualify

Thank you so much for the help

[fair talon]

It looks like doing an Associates degree might be a good idea

Theyre a lot cheaper than Bachelors, and theyd get you set up for it even without the best High school grades

[marsh garden]

That's... really smart

[fair talon]

(Got my associates at the local community college for only a few hundred per credits. Nobody gives af what college if it isnt ivy league)

[marsh garden]

This is very true^

[fair talon]

Worse case scenario, even if you cant do a Bachelors in Germany, you can transfer that Associates into a Bachelors and start 2 years into a 4 year like I did

[marsh garden]

I would not break the bank going to a subpar college just because it's "better than community college"

Yeah, I think I'm going to take that route

I'll still look more into my options, if I retake the SAT and do well I would actually qualify

I just need to get above 1360...

[fair talon]

Mhm. It'll take work, but I'd say its worth it 🤷
Definitely keep at the German language though. Super helpful, and pretty neccesary 😅

[marsh garden]

Although something I read mentioned that community college didn't count?

[fair talon]

I believe it can count towards the Abitur. Not towards college credit

[marsh garden]

Regardless I do need to get an associate's here. I misread the thing and even the SAT won't help me- I took all the required high school classes but my GPA is only 2.8

Fuck me for slacking sophomore year, if I didn't go through shit that year I would've been good

[fair talon]

Junior year was my slack year 😅
It happens

[marsh garden]

I wonder if my GPA being 2.8 in high school will stop them from accepting me even after two years of uni where I do well

[cyan falcon]

generally people only care about most recent results

[fair talon]

Funny enough, I had to give transcripts all the way back to high school for my Masters 😅

But I think GPA wise, yeah, the more recent stuff is generally weighted more (would have to check their official rules)

[marsh garden]

Well I do want to move to Germany eventually and I thought my best option to do so was through studying there but I'm starting to wonder if I should give up on that dream 😛

Alternatively I wonder if I could go back to high school

[cyan falcon]

Really? I did part of my bachelors in Germany and I just gave them the date of the result of my end of school exams lol

[marsh garden]

I know Germany has too many unskilled workers currently and is looking for skilled workers- it might be wiser for me to study here and really keep learning German, and then get a degree and see if I can find work there

Hmmm... maybe individual schools do have slightly different requirements?

[tame forum]

^even though a lot of media/news websites report that, i am not sure how true that is...... there were other reports where qualified ppl were ranting that there werent enough jobs..

unrelated: btw do german hear feel the need to buy vpn and pirate, or prefer to stay clean from pirating and buy every book/movie that they watch?

[fair talon]

For English-language content, im definitely eyeballing a nice VPN to home 👀

Most of the legal services don't even have titles listed, and those that do arent in English >.>

[exotic barn]

Weiss jemand ob’s egal ist ob man überhaupt ein vorgedrucktes Ticket hat um mit der deutschen Bahn zu fahren? Kann man einfach nicht die online Fahrkarte vorzeigen?

Ich habe meine Fahrkarte von Trainline gekauft

[sand cosmos]

Normalerweise steht es auf dem Ticket, wenn man es auch digital dabei haben kann.
Leider ist die Bahn nicht gerade super fortschrittlich und oft müssen Tickets in gedruckter Form vorliegen, um gültig zu sein.

[thin osprey]

Ich weiß, dass jedes Ticket, das direkt von der DB kommt, auch digital funktioniert.

[exotic barn]

Ich hab das eigentlich von Trainline gekauft doch in der oberer linken Ecke sieht man “DB”. Wird das gehen? 🤔

@thin osprey

[thin osprey]

Das kannst du digital benutzen

Du brauchst deinen Ausweis!

[tame forum]

I dont think its safe to post ur ticket here. Idk🤷

Since ur doubt is resolved, delete it jus to be on the safe side

[thin osprey]

It should be. You can't use it without him and his passport anyways.

Except the personal information...

[tame forum]

Ohkk

[exotic barn]

Yeah you can’t travel without it lmao

Which I have one

But I’ll delete it

[tropic edge]

Too late, I'm you now

[fair talon]

Question: Does anyone know another bank that will open a blocked account for an American?

Deutsche Bank fucked up again and im running out of time before my appointment >.>

[tropic edge]

Expatrio is where I did mine, they are quick and pretty neat. Haven't had troubles so far

[fair talon]

Does it work for Americans?

[tropic edge]

I have no clue, I'm not American. And I didn't travel to Germany from America

If you shoot them an email, they'll get back to you very quickly. That's been my experience at least

[fair talon]

I'll email them right away 👍

The reason I ask is most of the services I looked at had disclaimers like this

[tropic edge]

I wasn't aware any restrictions where set up like that. Hopefully you find something in time!

[fair talon]

Yup. You know its good when somehow we get lumped in with Iran and North Korea 👀

Its not a restriction thing though for the US, just a paperwork one

[tame forum]

same even i did mine with expatrio

can recommend it. its solid

[fair talon]

Id be perfectly fine with em if theyd take me 😅 thats all I need to figure out

Id take anything over wasting more time with Deutsche Bank

Woohoo! 👀 Expatrio is a go (and damn, much better response time than Deutsche Bank's 4-5 business days)

[steel mauve]

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Wo kann ich ein gutes Beispiel für Anschreiben (cover letter in German) finden? Nicht einfach irgendwelche von erste Seite in Google

[faint plaza]

Ich hab etliche anschreiben selber gemacht.
Aber nur für normale Jobs und Ausbildung

[tropic edge]

Congratulations Jake! Hope all goes well with ya

[steel mauve]

OK, gibt es bestimmte Regeln für Anschreiben? Im Deutschkurs hatten wir diese Thema nur einmal. Natürlich hab ich schon selbst gegoogelt, aber es ist komisch.

Für erste, paar Webseiten geben Redewendungen, auf andere empfehlt man die nie wieder benutzen.

Dann könnte ich die Entwurf nicht gut verstehen. Ich meine, was soll ich nach dem im erste, zweite... Absätze schreiben.

[faint plaza]

Ja es kommt halt drauf an auf was du dich bewirbst.
Ausbildung,Uni,Normaler Job? @steel mauve

Da gibt es schon einiges zu beachten um Ehrlich zu sein

[steel mauve]

@faint plaza Danke für die Antwort :) Ein Job wo man wirklich gutes Anschreiben braucht (nicht Fahrer usw wo man eigentlich auf besondere Kenntnisse und Erfahrungen achtet)

[faint plaza]

Da kann ich ein bisschen helfen

Aber erst am Freitag

[steel mauve]

Kein Problem

[faint plaza]

Ich arbeite die nächsten Tage nachts und habe keine Zeit dafür. Also erst Freitag haha

remind 3 days anschreiben job

[lucid valve]

Alright @faint plaza, in 3 days: anschreiben job

[faint plaza]

remind 3 days anschreiben für gioia Job

[lucid valve]

Alright @faint plaza, in 3 days: anschreiben für gioia Job

[faint plaza]

Besser

Lmao

[steel mauve]

OK, dann bis Freitag 🙂

[fair talon]

Ich habe eine Frage: So apparently Expatrio's account requires a normal German bank account to be usable (i.e. I can't directly withdraw from my Expatrio account).
For a normal student account (not blocked), anyone got any reccomendations?

[tame forum]

I asked this question earlier...... Ox recommended ING. Berzi i think recommended Sparkasse.

U cud find the entire convo actually ifnu searcjed "ING" or something @fair talon

[fair talon]

How recent was it? I can try scrolling back

[tame forum]

It was a gud discussion

Uhhh.... Nah it wud be better if u searched

I guess a month ago

[fair talon]

Okay, yeah, ill try searching 😅

[tame forum]

The convo happened on July 18.

@fair talon

[fair talon]

Yeh, I found it and read through

[tame forum]

👍

[fair talon]

I'll check out ING and Sparrkasse, I dont need much besides being able to withdraw

And I can confirm firsthand now that yes, Deutsche Bank is meme levels of terrible

Especially for blocked accounts. Their blocked account hotline has literally 0 power (several of them told me so) to look into or access accounts

All they could do was confirm if it existed or not

Wait, didnt they say Sparkasse was an online thing?

Theres literally a branch 4 buildings away from me

[tame forum]

No i dont think they said that..... Maybe they mentioned that it had online banking too

Btw how woukd one link old messages, so that one can tap on it and take u to the old message?

[fair talon]

I dont think you can. Closest I think you can do is have a mod pin it

Damn, only issue with ING and Sparkasse would be no English support...

[tame forum]

Yahh

Expatrio suggests monese

Fully online yho

[fair talon]

N26 was also suggested I think

[tame forum]

And dont know how good it is.

[fair talon]

Same

[tame forum]

The thing is, the debit card which they would give us which we use to withdrse the money..... Do ee get charged if we use atms?

I mean because these are relatively small banks and dont have their own atms like Deutsche bank and other banks....... And i guess theres a service fee if u use a bank atm that is different from the bank that issued the credit card right?

[fair talon]

I dont mind if its only certain banks, cause I can take the metro to any of em no problem. Im just trying to see who has the best service and best perks 😅

[exotic barn]

ING only charges you if you withdraw less than 50€

[fair talon]

ING is also only in Deutsch 👀

Und mein Deutsch ist Scheiße

Commerzbank apparently gives 100€ for opening a Girokonto 👀

[tame forum]

Damn lol

[fair talon]

Plus, theres one on my street 👀

Anyone have any experience with them?

[fair talon]

Bah, damn, seems the bonus is only if youre getting paid then 😅

Or youre subscribed to stuff

[warped atlas]

Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank, each debit cards can take money from the other ATMs free of charge

Regarding online banks, like Comdirect, N26 and ING-Diba, they usually would give free ATM withdrawals from any bank ATM. I can vouch for N26 on this one

But then you‘d only have 5 free withdrawals per month in Germany, unfortunately

Comdirect however can draw money for free at any Commerzbank ATM (unlimited)

Sparkasse and Volksbank, would have you pay a fee, I believe €4,5, if you draw using Commerzbank or Deutsche Bank (they have the bank alliance which lets you draw money for free if you draw from the banks, but I can‘t remember what‘s it called)

And the €100 credit bonus, you don‘t even feel it. I made comdirect, and I do get that starting credit as well, but that‘s only €2 a month 😅

[fair talon]

Well, the 100€ would be nice since im a student who wont be working for a while most likely 😅

But yeah, im just debating between N26 and Commerzbank now

[exotic barn]

Kennt jemand vielleicht irgendwas über Aufenthaltserlaubnis? weil das Ding ist dass ich gerade meinen Austauschschüler besuche, und nach meinem Besuch mit ihm fertig ist werde ich schon hier seit 17 Tagen gewesen sein. mir wurde von jemandem gesagt der am Einwohnermeldeamt arbeitet dass ich eine Aufenthaltserlaubnis eigentlich nicht brauche bis ich an meiner Uni bin, aber mein Studienberater hat mir das komplett Gegenteil erzählt, und er hat gesagt dass ich sie, also die Aufenthaltserlaubnis, so bald wie möglich brauche insbesondere in den ersten 2 Wochen meines Aufenthalts

ich weiß nicht ob ich mich jetzt dafür bewerben soll oder nachdem ich bei meiner Uni angekommen bin

weil 2 Menschen sagen mir zwei verschiedene Dinge

[warped atlas]

N26 as long as you know you will only pull cash like 3 times a month, then you‘re fine with that. I really like their app as well because ease of use.

It would also be a plus for you using N26, if you travel outside of Germany „a lot“

Cause drawing cash outside of Germany is limitless

But having a more established bank would probably be the better idea here, so go with Commerzbank.

N26 has also some appalling customer service apparently if you look up online 😂

@exotic barn Also....hmmm wo kann ich damit anfangen...

Dein Studienberater ist nicht völlig richtig, würde ich sagen....

Also, deine 17 Tagen sollten bisher mit Touristvisum gelten

Weil du deine Austauschschüler bisher besucht hast, und nicht zu Arbeiten oder Studieren

Aber, wenn du hier eine Wohnung suchen möchtest, oder Bankkonto eröffnen möchtest, dann brauchst du diese Aufenthaltserlaubnis

[exotic barn]

Ganz genau junge, er hat gerade Sommerferien xD

[warped atlas]

Eine vorläufige Erlaubnis von deiner Botschaft oder von der Ausländerbehörde könnte in diesem Fall verwendet werden

Also, kein Touristvisum um Wohnungen zu finden oder Bankkonto eröffnen, oder Arbeiten oder Studieren

[exotic barn]

Ne, ich werde eigentlich an eine Gastfamilie übertragen werden

In der Nähe von der Uni

[warped atlas]

Errr was?

Übertragen werden?

[exotic barn]

heißt “an jmdn übertragen” nicht “to be assigned”?

to someone

[warped atlas]

Also, für Studentenaustausch mit Gastfamilie, das könnte funktionieren, ja....aber als richtige Studierenden für Uni.........

Das habe ich nie gehört

[exotic barn]

Lol

[warped atlas]

Also, ja, das könnte natürlich auch passieren

[exotic barn]

Ich wusste schon dass ich kein Visum brauche

Das war nicht worum es geht

[warped atlas]

Das funktioniert normalerweise für „Aufgaben“ 😉

[exotic barn]

Weil ich nicht arbeiten werde

[warped atlas]

....

Okay, was willst du hier machen?

Hier in Deutschland meinte ich

[exotic barn]

Ich frage nach der Aufenthaltserlaubnis

Ich werde an Sprachkurse teilnehmen

[warped atlas]

Ahhh

[exotic barn]

Und nix mehr

[warped atlas]

Dann ist das auch etwas anders

Du brauchst doch ein Sprachkursvisum (Aufenthaltserlaubnis) wenn es mehr als 6 Monaten (oder 3?) läuft.

Aber du als Amerikaner, brauchst höchstwahrscheinlich gar nichts

IANAL Du kannst den Sprachkurs sogar mit dein Touristvisum teilnehmen

Du kriegst jedoch Ärger wenn du mehr in Deutschland wohnst als was dein Touristvisum sagst

Pass einfach auf

@exotic barn https://tandem-hamburg.de/deutsch/info_dateien/visum_de.php

Hier steht mehr drin

Siehe den Punkt 2

[exotic barn]

ok aber ist es egal genau wann ich mich anmelde? @warped atlas

[warped atlas]

Nein....

Wenn du schon weißt, dass du mehr als 3 Monaten Sprachkurs teilnehmen willst, dann mach es sofort

Also, den Antrag, meinte ich

Die ABH könnte Wochen dafür brauchen

Bis du einen Termin für den offiziellen Visumsantrag haben könntest

In diesem Fall hat dein Studienberater recht

[exotic barn]

ok aber würde es etwas verursachen wenn ich mich anmelden hätte nur nach 2 Wochen vorbei wären?

Aber trotzdem so bald wie möglich danach

[warped atlas]

Nach was, dein erste 17 Tagen? Ist okay.

Kriegst du trotzdem keinen Ärger, meiner Meinung nach.

[exotic barn]

Nach den ersten 2 Wochen meines Aufenthalts also bei meinem Austauschschüler den ich gerade besuche

Ich kenne ihn von meinem Austauschprogramm vom letzten Jahr

hmm ok

[warped atlas]

Nach den ersten 2 Wochen meines Aufenthalts also bei meinem Austauschschüler den ich gerade besuche
Also, das heißt jetzt? Ja, sollte kein Problem sein.
Mach es aber sofort

[exotic barn]

aber wir haben schon geplant das Einwohnermeldeamt zu besuchen

[warped atlas]

(Sorry was a bit going around and around with my phone

Das würde ich sagen, auch sofort machen....

Wenn es mehr als 2 Wochen, könntest du €20 Bußgeld bezahlen musst....aber jede Stadt ist anders

Und wenn du eine gute Begründung geben könntest, kannst du das Bußgeld auch vermeiden (wie ich, 1 Monat später in Stuttgart, weil mein Pass bei der irischen Botschaft war)

[exotic barn]

aber ich wohne mit meinem Austauschschüler. Das heißt dass wir keinen Bus brauchen weil seine Mutter uns fahren kann

aber ich wohne mit ihm für nur 17 Tage insgesamt

Es gibt nur noch 11 Tage

aber naja ich werde bald sehen was ich für meine Aufenthaltserlaubnis tun muss

beim Einwohnermeldeamt

(beim/am) ich weiß nicht was in so nem Zusammenhang sich besser anhört

[warped atlas]

I still don‘t get what you‘re trying to do here....

Firstly, you do realize that going to the Einwohnermeldeamt is not the same as getting your Aufenthaltserlaubnis, yes?

And secondly, if you‘re ONLY staying at your guest family, for the next 11 days, then you move somewhere else, then I don‘t think it is a good use of your time to go to Einwohnermeldeamt, because you would need to go there again anyway after you move in 11 days

(Assuming you already have a semi-permanent place set)

There are two things here that you need to differentiate, one is registering to the city (go to Einwohnermeldeamt), and the other is registering to the country (going to the ABH)

And sorry, I meant Bußgeld, not Busgeld

[exotic barn]

Oh makes more sense lmao

@warped atlas I’m just following what this is telling me which is something my program advisor sent me

So is getting a residence permit only useful if you stay in the same city where you got it?

[tame forum]

holy shit i didnt know the residence permit costs 100 euros

[fair talon]

I thought it was 120? 🤷

[warped atlas]

Urrmmm...yeah it costs somewhere around there

[fair talon]

My uni says 110€ for Hamburg, could differ by state

[warped atlas]

Noooooo

Look, how about I tell what you should get, here, okay? 😅

Firstly, I need to know, how long is your program?

When is it supposed to start, and when did you actually arrive here in Germany @exotic barn

That page you had clipped, is a full coverage on all nationalities, but not telling you the slight details that you can "exploit"

but firstly, I need to know those things I asked

And by the way, going to the Einwohnermeldeamt, or to the Rathaus, is required even if you move from one apartment, to the apartment across the street

but you don't need to apply for a new Residence Permit

They'll just stick your new address to your card, and that's it

[exotic barn]

So I arrive at the actual Uni on August 29th and it starts a couple of days later because there’s one day for the orientation and for Jetlag recovery though I’ve already recovered obviously. And I arrived on August 13th @warped atlas

[compact slate]

anyone has experience with immobilien24? is there really no description in the ads? I mean like in wg-gesucht where theywrite about the Lage, WG-Leben and so on

[warped atlas]

There are descriptions

[compact slate]

https://bit.ly/2HevheT

am I blind?

it doesn't say who lives there, the age, what they expect for the WG-Leben

[warped atlas]

It happens at times

Some people get bored of writing things in details

And would rather just describe the bare minimum, and get things going at the interview later on

I‘d say that‘s quite enough, for you to at least look at the WG, and very likely that the Vermieter just lost both of the WG-Mieter, and looking to fill it

Which is why there‘s no age and all

Whether you get the furnitures and so on, you better ask directly

[compact slate]

I see thanks

[fair talon]

They often only provide minimum detail because they'll get people asking regardless

Not really that much of a need to stand out when demand exceeds supply

[tropic edge]

That's true, but is this the case in all cities in Germany?

[fair talon]

Well, some will be worse than others

Hamburg was particularly bad for example

Im sure the smaller/more rural areas dont have the problem as much

[faint plaza]

Most big city’s have that problem

I always say to people try to get a flat within Sbahn limit so you don’t pay your soul for a flat l.

[compact slate]

I just hope I'll find something haha

What are good areas in Berlin like Charlottenburg?

Or anything within sensible ubahn range from the TU berlin

[humble bough]

this depends what you consider good lmao

TU Berlin is right by Zoo iirc, so it's v well-connected

[compact slate]

safe

I heard from people there are bad neighbourhoods out there

[fair talon]

Eh, by German standards. By most of the world's, its pretty damn safe

At least, coming as an American 🤷

[hardy wren]

dont equate america with "most of the world", please

[warped atlas]

🤣

[tropic edge]

Berlin is pretty big and every neighborhood is very different. Currently staying in Wedding and that's way different than Schöneweide.

I'd say just calculate it according to time to the university, anything in 30 minutes range to university sounds pretty good. And yeah it's right at Zoologischer Garten, so u lines and busses. But start looking early, because everyone is looking and it's really tough if your budget is tight. It's a landlords market atm

[fair talon]

@hardy wren I mean, ive stayed in a lot of the world. Thats what I was basing it off of. I know 'Merica is a bit of an outlier 😅

[hardy wren]

i live in wedding and its wonderful

[fair talon]

If you like it so much, why dont you marry it? 👀

(Bad pun, dont kill me)

[tropic edge]

Wedding is pretty chill I gave up on getting a travel card because there's nothing that's not around the corner and I no longer have classes.

[obsidian topaz]

How competitive are english bachelor degrees?

[tame forum]

that is a vague question

[warped atlas]

I‘m guessing he‘s asking whether it‘s possible to get a job in Germany with only an English-Major Bachelor degree

[obsidian topaz]

You're right that's a bit of a useless question with no context.
I graduated in Australia with a Bachelor in business a few years back, have worked full-time in the mean time, and am now considering studying in Germany. My options as I see them are a Masters of the same field (made difficult partly due to my degree having only lasted 3 years), or to choose a different field in which to study as an undergraduate again. I'm leaning towards the latter for a few reasons, mostly job satisfaction and interests.
I've located about 6 degrees offered throughout the country in a particular area I'm interested in (environmental engineering/science) offered at public universities; taught in English. Most have limits of how many students they accept. That's why I asked about competitiveness :)

My German as of now is somewhere between A1 and A2. Without considerable time I wouldn't expect to be able to study in German (perhaps an option with a masters down the track, though).

Sorry for the wall of text. I'm early on in researching to be honest so haven't yet begun the uni-assist process or anything

Oh I'm also a British citizen. Which would have potentially made things easier for me without Brexit...

[tame forum]

generally, medical, law and a few programmes at reputed unis are the only ones that have lots of competition to get into. others mostly are unrestricted admission, which means if you fulfill their basic entry requirements and your grades arent too shabby they will take u in. therefore not too competitive and depends on the programme. check on the Uni website if the programme you are applying for has "Numerus Clauses"/ "NC" which means its restricted admission and tougher to get into. if it isnt and has unrestricted admission, its easier to get in.

@obsidian topaz

however if they are indeed NC, and u still want to know what would ur chances be of getting an admission, that is something that i dont know and maybe someone else can answer

[obsidian topaz]

Yeah quite a few of the env ones state they are restricted (some setting out the actual number e.g. 80)

Thank you for the insight

Freiburg for instance has 80 students per admission to the englisch BSc/A

[neat sonnet]

How easy is it really to get into a German university? I've got about a 3.7 gpa, 3 of those are aps, I'm planning on taking four more ap classes next year/senior year

(currently junior)

for context,

i want to go into engineering, and have taken ap physics, gotten an A on it, and a 3 (American system) grade on it, I'm currently in Multivariable calculus, the highest level our school offers. My German language level is about Higher A to Lower B, and I currently am enrolled in a tutoring program, quickly trying to increase my german.

[warped atlas]

Firstly, which university do you want to go to? And secondly have you talked to a sort of Studienberater and getting your GPA and studies recognized by German universities?

[lucid valve]

@faint plaza, 3 days ago: anschreiben job

https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/400678824301297683/613269954946531338

@faint plaza, 3 days ago: anschreiben für gioia Job

https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/400678824301297683/613270026732175380

[faint plaza]

Sehr geehrte/r Frau/Herr XXX
mit großem Interesse habe ich die Stellenausschreibung auf der Seite der
Arbeitsagentur gelesen.
Da Sie einen kompetenten, zuverlässigen und erfahrenen Verkäufer suchen,
fühle ich mich besonders angesprochen. Wie Sie meinem Lebenslauf entnehmen
können, habe ich bei Rewe in der Metzgerei die Ausbildung begonnen und diese
bei Edeka abgeschlossen. Ich habe im September letzten Jahres eine
Ausbildung zum Fleischer bei Real,- Angefangen. Durch nicht vorhandene
Ausbildungs Möglichkeite bei Real,- habe ich mich entschlossen meine Zweite
Ausbildung zu beenden und in meinen Beruf als Verkäufer weiter tätig zu werden
und Berufserfahrung zu sammeln.
In den Einzelhandelskonzernen war es für mich selbstverständlich, selbstständig
und ordentlich zu arbeiten, dem Kunden gegenüber sicher aufzutreten und die
Ware bestmöglich zu präsentieren. Der direkte Kontakt zu den Kunden, deren
Zufriedenheit und die Möglichkeit eingehende Beratungsgespräche zu führen,
bereitet mir ebenso große Freude, wie das Arbeiten im Team. Die Vielseitigkeit,
die der Verkauf von Hochwertigen Konsumgütern bietet, reizt mich besonders.
Da ich sehr leistungsorientiert und motiviert bin, werde ich mich in kürzester Zeit
mit dem Sortiment auskennen. Des Weiteren bin ich flexibel im Rahmen der
Öffnungszeiten einsetzbar.
Die Zusammenarbeit mit meinem bisherigen Arbeitgeber wurde auf meinen
Wunsch hin zum XXX beendet. Da ich von diesem allerdings noch kein
Arbeitszeugnis erhalten habe, werde ich es natürlich schnellstmöglich nachreichen.
Ich stehe Ihnen ab dem XXX zur Verfügung und würde mich sehr freuen, wenn
Sie mir die Chance geben, mich persönlich bei Ihnen vorstellen zu dürfen.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
@steel mauve

take a look

this is a standart anschreiben done fast by me

that i normally used

for salesman jobs

maybe it helps you

[faint plaza]

sweet danke

[granite nebula]

Ooo.

[fair talon]

@neat sonnet Well, you do meet the minimum GPA requirement (provided that your high school is recognized), but most likely you would still need to do a Studienkolleg to bring your high school degree up to a German Abitur (the list above is a bit old, but gives you the idea of whats "fully equivalent" in their eyes).

As for how hard it is to get in, @tame forum made a good post I'll copy paste below:
generally, medical, law and a few programmes at reputed unis are the only ones that have lots of competition to get into. others mostly are unrestricted admission, which means if you fulfill their basic entry requirements and your grades arent too shabby they will take u in. therefore not too competitive and depends on the programme. check on the Uni website if the programme you are applying for has "Numerus Clauses"/ "NC" which means its restricted admission and tougher to get into. if it isnt and has unrestricted admission, its easier to get in.

They might ask for proof of German proficiency before letting you take classes in it though. I'd make sure your German is up for it 🤷

[solemn bay]

Yes, you usually need B2 or C1 certified German for doing a Bachelor degree.

[fair talon]

Ive heard of some letting you do language courses in addition to your Studienkolleg program as well, but thats basically one semester to get that high. Your German should be pretty high before that 😅

Also, most unis are pretty open about their admittance system too. They'll give you the exact weight each part of the application has on your admittance score, and if your score is high enough (unless it has NC/restricted admission), you're admitted

[granite nebula]

I'm in a similar situation as him. Does it change anything if I am an IB student?

I'm hoping to go to university in Germany and to eventually move there.

[tropic edge]

You really need to look into it. Almost all the resources are present online, unfortunately a lot of which are in German. I can tell you the ones I think are most relavent for bachelor students. Anabin, the university you want to apply for( they probably have their own deadlines and rules), your country's student visa application process, your language exam, your papers being in English or German.

Some students for instance ( I'm looking at you A level grads) don't get a Studentkolleg, because they have direct entry if they meet the subject requirements.

Really differs, case by case.

[granite nebula]

I didn't know Anabin existed, thanks.

It looks really helpful.

[tropic edge]

No problem mate, use it in conjunction with your goal university+ emails to said university. Things become much more clear.

[tame forum]

https://www.daad.de/deutschland/nach-deutschland/voraussetzungen/en/61122-recognition-of-the-ib-diploma-in-germany/

@granite nebula

[granite nebula]

Thanks.

This requirement is so upsetting to me. I don't meet it because my school doesn't offer any of those as HL courses.

Even if my IB diploma isn't accepted, having been in the program still looks good for me on my applications, right?

[tame forum]

Yah it might look good...... But if u dont fulfill the requirements..... Then all it can do is look good........looking good doesn't fulfill a key requirement

If u want u can perhaps do the compulsory subject by urself

Like a private candidate

[granite nebula]

That's true. I might look into that if I don't like my other options. Hopefully it is possible. Thanks.

[fair talon]

You could look into either doing it as part of an associates, or possibly doing it as a MOOC (Massively Open Online Course)

Whether or not its accepted would vary by course and by university, but my German Masters program told me I was missing some Business courses for example, so they provided a list of courses on EdX.org that would be acceptable if I passed and received the certificate

@granite nebula
Also, could be worth it to just ask them what options you have then (listing some of the ones you've found like here to show you've done some research). Even before applying, I was able to receive some clarification from the university admissions department.

[tame forum]

Woah thats really cool of german unis to accept online courses to fill in missing credits

[fair talon]

Im not sure if its a general thing or if itwas just a cooperative admissions team, so thats why I was reccomending to ask 🤷

But yeah, it was super nice. Did four of those things over lunch breaks at work

The original email with the options given.

[granite nebula]

Oh wow, that's really nice. Thanks.

[fair talon]

Happy to help 😊

The trick is to start early. Nobody's got a beginning to end walkthrough of this process because it can be dramatically different for different people. The sooner you start asking around and planning stuff out though, the less bothersome delays or unforeseen issues coming up in the process will be.

[granite nebula]

😀

[tiny flume]

Hey, I think I understand what this community is for (university transfers to German institutions) but can someone explain the reasoning behind the name "leben-unterm-dach"? Culturally referring to living in Deutschland via being "under the roof?"

[fair talon]

DACH is an abbreviation for Germany Austria and Switzerland (dont ask me how, I forgot)

So basically "Life in German-Speaking Countries"

Its not just for university stuff (I think most people learning German here are students, so its a bit overrepresented). Any questions about German life/culture can go here as well.

Hope that answers your question @tiny flume 😊

[tiny flume]

"State farm is here" indeed. Danke

[fair talon]

Bitte

[spare pendant]

D for Deutschland, A for Austria, CH for Confoederatio Helvetica

multilingual acronym 🤗

[foggy prism]

university transfers to German institutions
it’s not just about university stuff

and the title is basically a pun. DACH is short for DE/AT/CH really, which are the two letter codes for Germany, Austria and Switzerland (the latter two coming as mentioned from the latin Austria and Confoederatio Helvetica)

nevermind, not latin

Die Bezeichnung geht jedoch nicht auf die lateinische, sondern auf die urgermanische Sprache zurück. Das althochdeutsche *austar- bedeutet soviel wie „östlich“ oder „im Osten“, und die altisländische Edda nennt den mythischen Zwerg des Ostens Austri. Eng mit dem Wort Austria verwandt sind auch die Namen Austrasien und Austrien für das Ostfrankenreich bzw. Ostreich. Auch in der älteren Bezeichnung Ostarrîchi ist die Wurzel ôstar- erkennbar. Die Ähnlichkeit mit dem lateinischen Auster für „Südwind“ und terra australis für das „Südland“ Australien ist zufällig.

[hardy wren]

wichtiger unterschied: Austrien ist das Ostland, Australien das Südland

[fair talon]

DAACH. Now including Australien 👀

[hardy wren]

dauach

[foggy prism]

DOLCH - Deutschland/Oesterreich/Liechtenstein&Luxemburg/Confoederatio Helvetia/wer braucht schon Belgien

[hardy wren]

BeNeLuxIDOLCH

[ashen mirage]

Guys, the university i want to apply to says i need to submit atleast b1+prove of attendance in a b2 course for my degree program. I do have a b1 certificate and i also studied b2 myself but didn't give the exam bc my local goethe institute did not conduct a b2 exam. What should i do?

[solemn bay]

First step is to email your uni and ask them for advice.

I'm not sure of other things to do as I haven't been in that situation myself, but it's always best to ask the uni directly when you're unsure of something.

[ashen mirage]

Okay. I'll email them

[warped atlas]

That university already told you the method

Basically they need proof that you have ATTENDED the B2 course

A fellow Ausländer had applied during my year with no language certificate, only proof of attendance until B1 level. @ashen mirage

Most likely than not, you‘d probably still have to do an Einstufungstest if you still have to reach C1

[tame forum]

@warped atlas but he/she mentioned that they studied b2 by themeselves. In that case who would make a certificate

[warped atlas]

Dude said „I studied B2 myself“ not „I studied B2 BY myself“ @tame forum. In this case, Goethe should provide the cert (which they already give out at the end of your courses)

[tame forum]

Perhaps ur right

[ashen mirage]

@warped atlas @tame forum I did not attend a course for b2 at goethe institut. I just bought the books and studied at home. just to be clear

who will provide me an attendance certificate in this case?

[warped atlas]

Errr....no one in this case, sorry buddy

You can apply using that B1 certificate (or at least begin to apply)

And see what the university says, what you should do, etc

[tight kelp]

if they absolutely require a certificate of some sort, the easiest way would be to get your B2 certified (without the extra time and money costs of a course)

[warped atlas]

But the only way to do that is to take the exam, or?

[tight kelp]

yes

[exotic barn]

Ich bin in Deutschland seit 2 Wochen gewesen, und obwohl ich wirklich fast alles verstehe, kann ich nicht immer so schnell reden, und ich weiß ja auch ned immer sofort was ich sagen will, und manchmal nachdem ich den Satz habe den ich im Kopf formuliert hab ist das Thema oftmals vorbei, und deshalb kann ich den Satz nicht mehr sagen. Ich wollte mal fragen, ob sowas gewöhnlich ist und ob jemand auch ähnliche Erfahrungen gehabt hat? ich habe auch jedoch bemerkt dass mein Deutsch sich verbessert hat seit dem letzen Mal dass ich hier gekommen bin

aber die Vokabeln sind die Teile mit dem ich noch kämpfe haha

[fair talon]

Assuming my translation of that is right, yeah, thats perfectly normal. Its not called a deep dive because its easy 👀

Had the same experience with my past study abroad. You pick up the day to day essentials fairly quick (a month or two), but it takes practice

[exotic barn]

Sometimes people think I don’t understand them just because I don’t say a lot when the reality of it actually is just that it’s a lot faster paced than I am used to

I would love to say more it’s just I can’t talk so quickly yet

[fair talon]

Well, I'd say for me at least, speed is the easier part to get past (thats just getting used to the patterns and tuning your ear to it), but definitely one of the most annoying things when starting out

[exotic barn]

Then what’s the harder part

I mean it’s not the speed at which they talk I struggle with, because really it’s all fairly easy to understand, it’s the speed at which I formulate sentences I struggle with

I’ve done a ton of writing practice and not enough speaking but that’s the whole reason why I’m here though haha

[tame forum]

M scared of this too^

[fair talon]

Improvising sentences on the spot was the part I struggled with most

[exotic barn]

It’s also like half of the vocabulary that i hear them use I completely understand but somehow I don’t remember to use them in conversation myself

[fair talon]

Knowing 90% of a sentence is super frustrating

*when trying to say it

[exotic barn]

Yeah

Because you’re so close but you just don’t know the correct noun or verb

[tame forum]

I have a suggestion that m trying out rn too. Theres this app called clozemaster which has blanks u fill out. Anyways thats not how i use it...... It has tonnes of sentences which i translate in my head and then compare with the german sentence in yhr app

U could try it out and see how well it goes

Jus so that i can get into the habit of translating in my head faster

[exotic barn]

I’m about to be at a German university as well for study abroad and I’m sure they’ll have similar exercises for me there in the classes or for homework

[tame forum]

The thing is when we sit to write, the process of writing itself is slow, and gives us more time to think...... Which isnt true for real life situations

Where we need to be spontaneous

[exotic barn]

But I’m also past the stage of translating what someone says to me into English in my head, unless there was a word I didn’t get. I can understand it without referring back to an English translation is what I mean if you understand what I mean xD

Yes that’s correct

[tame forum]

Nah i meant the opposite. I meant reading the english sentence and translating into german in my head

[exotic barn]

You have much less time to think

Speaking is the most difficult part

[tame forum]

Jus to see how well ik the words

[exotic barn]

And if I ever start learning a third language I will use the lesson I’ve learned from German to start with speaking ASAP rather than later

I wasn’t commenting on what you said it’s just something that what you said reminded me of

[tame forum]

Ohh

[exotic barn]

You know what’s also annoying is when you hear a new word and you think you know what it means because you know the smaller words from which it’s made up of but your translation of what you thought it was wasn’t correct xD

[tame forum]

Thiss^^^

Lolll

[exotic barn]

Or you were actually correct

But it was the wrong context for the wird@

Word

And so it meant something else

Lol

[exotic barn]

well it’s good to know other people know the struggle

[tame forum]

Berzi (C level) herself mentioned that it happens with her too

[faint plaza]

Her lmfao

Berzi is a guy

👀

[tame forum]

Nahh

[foggy prism]

I was gonna ask, did I miss a memo?

[faint plaza]

Same

[tame forum]

Wtf

[faint plaza]

It is a guy

Like me and Sascha

Lol

[foggy prism]

when in doubt they

[tame forum]

The female anime pfp was misleading to say the least

[foggy prism]

apart from emi there’s no one here I actually know to be a woman

[tame forum]

Suzu

[foggy prism]

right

[faint plaza]

Thought the same at the beginning Fledermaus

[foggy prism]

yea I knew that

[shut gorge]

oh dude- people with female anime pfps are almost always male

[faint plaza]

^

🙏🏼😂

[tame forum]

No that wasnt the only reason

[exotic barn]

lol

[tame forum]

I read that "he" was a lesbian or something

[foggy prism]

also the nickname is literally berserker

[tame forum]

Afaik guys cant be lesbians

Or maybe it was someone else

[foggy prism]

seems unfemanly

…I won’t question that abomination of a word my fingers decided to type

let’s just roll with it

[faint plaza]

He is married to a guy as far as I know

So he ain’t lesbian

Lul

[tame forum]

Yes that indeed added to the confusion

[faint plaza]

Lmfao

[tame forum]

Fml 9 months

Lol

[foggy prism]

look, people on discords are either lgbt, autistic, or me

[tame forum]

I thought he was a girl

[foggy prism]

it’s the law

[shut gorge]

lol

[tame forum]

So i guess m the autist

[molten hearth]

Fox Ari is also girl?

[faint plaza]

I am more of the retarded troll spectrum Sascha

Pls be real with me

💁🏼‍♀️

[tame forum]

And also 2 of the mods are giels

[shut gorge]

yes i am

[tame forum]

Hecke n mueisu

Murisu

[faint plaza]

Lmao yes

I turn Hecke to a guy tho

Just wait

[tight kelp]

The female anime pfp was misleading to say the least
🙂

[foggy prism]

are there multiple Aris here now, cause I remember Ari to have a blue username?

[faint plaza]

^

Same

[shut gorge]

there's a c level ari yeah

[foggy prism]

okay yea there are, see #dialects for an ari with level C

[molten hearth]

Yeah Fox Ari is Austrian

[shut gorge]

why do you know so much about me 🤔

[tame forum]

A L T

[molten hearth]

Why not

[shut gorge]

that's concerning to say the least

[molten hearth]

[faint plaza]

I say it now.
We are all WOMAN until proven otherwise.

[tame forum]

Amen

[shut gorge]

indeed

[molten hearth]

Somebody said Berzi is a female and trolling us. I think Erik said that. Or he trolled me 🤔

[faint plaza]

He trolled ya 🙏🏼😂

Erik Said the same in Munich to me

[tame forum]

Idk who planted the memory of berzi saying he was a lesbian in my head

[faint plaza]

Even tho I knew berzi was a guy

And he fucked with me the whole time lmfao

[molten hearth]

Anyway Fox Ari’s address is..

[tame forum]

Lol

[shut gorge]

👀

[tight kelp]

fun fact: my gender has been confusing to everybody since i joined the server. You guys aren't even the first victims

evil loli laughter

[tame forum]

GLaD lore

[faint plaza]

Lmfao

^

Berzi fucking around with the server

[molten hearth]

[tame forum]

Berzi sunds femalish name too

i wasnt aware who or what berzerker is

[tight kelp]

one of the main reasons is that i don't really care about how people see me in terms of pronouns or gender

[foggy prism]

it’s a diminutivenickname

also, serki > berzi

[tight kelp]

so whenever someone uses the "wrong" one i just let it slip because it's fine for me

[tame forum]

and then theres sebi who gets annoyed when ppl dont capitalise the S

[foggy prism]

do

[tight kelp]

btw my pfp isn't a female 😏

[foggy prism]

it’s even worse. Sebi hates it when you write it Sebi

[tame forum]

welp. i guess m gay for finding ur pfp cute then

[molten hearth]

Who is this guy? @tight kelp

[exotic barn]

looks like a female imo

transgender?

[tight kelp]

astolfo from Fate's spinoffs

[tame forum]

how do people arrange for textbooks in unis usually? amazon? uni library? second-hand from graduates?...... cant find some books online 😦

[tight kelp]

second-hand most likely

because they tend to be pricey, too

and uni libraries

[tame forum]

and would one need to have thier own contacts or looking at online websites like ebay or something suffice?

[tight kelp]

if you find them, they suffice :P

there's also facebook groups and similar communities

[tame forum]

oh yehh facebook groups.

i will check them out too

[foggy prism]

a lot of unis will give you access to free ebooks from many publishers

failing that, libgen

I mean, sorry, don’t use libgen, for it is illegal in Germany

but if you were in a place where it is legal, like me, then you could use that

[tight kelp]

for it is illegal in Germany
one who useth it shall by law be punished

but if you were in a place where it is legal, like me
and that's just humblebragging :<

[ashen mirage]

@warped atlas @tight kelp thank you so much guys, the university responded pretty quick to my email and it turns out i just misunderstood between preparatory college and preparatory german course. for the studienkolleg aka preparatory college b1 is sufficient.

[tight kelp]

yay

[solemn bay]

That's good.

[ashen mirage]

@shut gorge wrong. I have a female anime pic and im a female. btw some ppl here assume im a guy automatically for some reason which is not true.

[molten hearth]

Maybe because of “Jay”?

[ashen mirage]

oh yes yes

many even think im indian bc they said indian guys have that name

[warped atlas]

Ehhh, on the internet, everyone are dudes until proven otherwise

[tropic edge]

Female anime characters dont exist

[warped atlas]

They‘re all futa?

[tropic edge]

Wait no

[warped atlas]

🤢

[tropic edge]

Rem is 100%female best girl nvm

[ashen mirage]

what does 'testDaf boi' means?

you passed it or something?

[tropic edge]

No, I'm sitting it next month

[tame forum]

@ashen mirage m indian and that is indeed true

very common name

@foggy prism yes thats y m downloading all my books before i reach germany from libgen and other websites. but i will be on the ebook thing too in my uni

[tropic edge]

puts on headset
I'm in
types furiously

[fair talon]

@tropic edge I see you are a man of culture as well.

[tropic edge]

Of course, I'm the whole circus

[fair talon]

You know, so anime on *legal streaming sites in Germany all have their anime in German sub or dub, no English right?
Ive honestly debated going full weeb and using Anime to learn German 😂

[vague brook]

umm

netflix has plenty english subs

[fair talon]

Not in Germany

[tame forum]

but fuck paid shit anyways

[vague brook]

i beg to differ

[fair talon]

I only have access to German ones here 🤷

I think the Netflix originals have all options, but the non-Netflix ones dont

Licensing shit and all that

[tropic edge]

Well I've asked this before and it's fine to watch streaming websites anime as long as you're not downloading or uploading.

[warped atlas]

Netflix in Germany has plenty of German subs

Watched Eva with jap dub and deu sub

[vague brook]

first one i opened

[tropic edge]

And also on a private network not public

[warped atlas]

Basically, no torrenting

You wanna stream, you can either 123 movie

Or „movie to“

[vague brook]

streaming is borderline legal

[warped atlas]

Yeah, what vahti said

[vague brook]

but anything that uploads is a big nono

[tropic edge]

Not really, it's theft but not in the same way as sharing it is

[warped atlas]

But it‘s not impossible to watch streamed content

Probably set a VPN tho

[tropic edge]

Would streaming anime be considered theft?

I mean anime is free in Japan right?

[vague brook]

i stream anime all the time because there are no decent paid sources here

[warped atlas]

How is anime free in japan?

[vague brook]

and i don't mind throwing money at good service

[warped atlas]

You mean on-demand free?

Like netflix (but even that is with subscription)

[tropic edge]

Idk the same way tv is free

[warped atlas]

Errr then yeah, of course

[vague brook]

netflix has added alot of anime recently, i was actually surprised how many good series are there

[warped atlas]

But people can‘t binge 😉

[tropic edge]

Never been to Japan and I don't know much outside of anime

[fair talon]

@vague brook first one I opened

[warped atlas]

Yep they have added quite a bit

„Good“ animes? Meh, haven‘t watched animes for awhile now

[vague brook]

oh my god that screenshot cringes me and im not even watching it

[warped atlas]

Maybe One Punch, or Kengan Ashura, or the first Psycho Pass

But even Kengan is just because I liked the manga

[fair talon]

@vague brook Its Aincrad arc, its tolerable

But yeah, all the anime on mine only has Japanese or German

[warped atlas]

Now watching Darker than Black, but I just don‘t feel it

[fair talon]

Only the other streaming sites have it in English

[vague brook]

i've been trying to watch that anime like 6 or 7 times

can't get past first episode

[fair talon]

Honestly

Just watch the abridged

Exact same story plot-wise, 10x better characters

Overall plot-wise*

[exotic barn]

Yeah it’s also funny how sometimes I can have a conversation without much trouble and then other times I’m not understanding enough words to continue the interaction without asking for a translation of a word @fair talon

[fair talon]

@exotic barn Mhm, you're fluent.... up until the exact moment you're not.

[exotic barn]

Ye

There’s even some aspects of English I’m not fluent in lmao

It depends on the subject

[fair talon]

https://youtu.be/JSHkYQoH4EE Think you and I could relate to this clip 😅

[dim bridge]

Ich verstehe jetzt, was Du mit dorm room = Märchen meintest, aber ist ein Zimmer im Wohnheim nicht sogar noch schlimmer als eine WG?

[foggy prism]

bezog sich eher darauf, dass meine Uni auf 18000 Schüler&Angestellte etwa 1000 Zimmer hat

[dim bridge]

Oh.

[foggy prism]

die sind günstig und perfekt gelegen

kriegt man aber nur über den Schwarzmarkt

[dim bridge]

??

[foggy prism]

es gibt n offizielles Portal, aber da findet man nie was

musst direkt jemanden finden, der auszieht und dich zum Nachmieter machen lassen

[dim bridge]

Und das in der Schweiz? Ich dachte, da ist alles so super-ordentlich?

[foggy prism]

naja, ist halt alles legitim. aber scheisse, als neuer Student, der eigentlich lieber nicht zwei Stunden (pro Weg) gependelt hätte

die meisten schweizer Studenten leben bei den Eltern und pendeln

die meisten schweizer Studenten leben aber auch im Flachland und haben max 1h bis nach Zürich

[dim bridge]

Herrje.

Ja, das ist übel.

[foggy prism]

Agglo Zürich selber ist ja n guter Fünftel der Deutschschweiz

[dim bridge]

Bitte entschuldige, ich muß weg. Les' Deine nächste Nachricht später, ja?

[foggy prism]

okay, sollte eh lernen gehen

das hier sind die Orte, die man in ≤1h mit den ÖV von Zürich aus erreichen kann

ich komm von da unten rechts, nahe Chur

die Verbindung Zürich-Chur selber ist etwa 1h15, aber in Chur hatte ich meist 20-30 Minuten Wartezeit auf den Anschluss

[dim bridge]

So, jetzt bin ich wieder da.

Und jetzt hast Du 2 h Fahrtzeit pro Strecke? Klingt nicht nach einem sonderlich guten Deal...

Übrigens - entschuldige die Frage, aber wie sprichst Du/sprecht Ihr "Chur" aus? Wie man's schreibt, mit Rachenkratz-ch, oder mit einem "k"-Laut vornedran? (Fiel mir grade auf, daß ich noch nie Anlaß hatte, den Ortsnamen laut zu sagen.)

[foggy prism]

ne, mittlerweile wohn ich in ner WG in Zürich
aber fürs erste Jahr musste ich pendeln, weil ich nichts gefunden hab

Chur spricht sich mit k aus, weil der lokale Dialekt das mit den ch nicht macht

wir haben k im Wortanlaut

im gegensatz zu den meisten schweizerdeutschen Dialekten, die's dann entsprechend mit nem ach-Laut sagen würden

[dim bridge]

Ah, gut. Ich denke immer "Kur", wenn ich "Chur" lese, aber plötzlich dachte ich, das sei vielleicht falsch.

Ich wußte übrigens nicht, daß es auch Schweizerdeutsch ohne das (in unseren Ohren typische) "ch" gibt.

[foggy prism]

es stimmt, aber nur per Zufall ^^

ist sehr regional

naja, wir haben das ch immer noch
einfach nicht am Wortanfang

halt so wie auf Hochdeutsch, einfach ohne den ich-Laut

[dim bridge]

Ah, jetzt verstehe ich.

Ich dachte, Du hättest "Schweizerdeutsch mit ich und ach" gemeint.

[foggy prism]

ne. schweizerdeutsch ohne ch am anfang

mein Dialekt hat den Lautwechsel k→[x] am Silbenanfang nicht gemacht

[dim bridge]

Darf ich fragen, was Du studierst?

[foggy prism]

Mathe

ich mein, ja, darfst du

und ich war sogar so nett und hab’s dir schon gesagt!

weil ich auch mal n bisschen Linguistik gemacht hab und die Pragmatik deiner Frage verstehe :P

[dim bridge]

Danke. Genau, deshalb habe ich gefragt. 🙂

Mathe - schluck! (Aber die Reaktion bist Du bestimmt gewöhnt, oder?)

[foggy prism]

ne, irgendwie wird die jedes Mal nerviger

:P

[dim bridge]

'Tschuldigung.

Kann man mit Mathematik eigentlich hinterher noch was anderes machen als entweder Lehrfach oder an der Uni zu bleiben?

[foggy prism]

das sind ohnehin die beiden Sachen, die ich gern machen würde
aber ja, sogar sehr viel

sofern man nicht stur auf dem “reine Mathe ist die einzige Mathe” Zweig bleibt

Statistik und Datenanalyse sind extrem gefragt

machine learning auch

Aktuar soll n sehr guter Beruf sein, dafür braucht man auch ne Matheausbildung

allgemein Finanzmathe ist recht offen und gut bezahlt

[dim bridge]

Ja, das kann ich mir denken. Aber ich dachte in meiner Unwissenheit, Statistik sei ein extra Fach...?

[foggy prism]

also bei uns ist’s so, dass Statistik so n bisschen wie ne spezialisierung ist

[dim bridge]

(geht weg, um "Aktuar" zu googlen)

[foggy prism]

Versicherungsmathematiker

basically

[deep vessel]

ist das 'Actuarial' auf Englisch?

[foggy prism]

actuary, yea

[dim bridge]

Oh. Das ist das allererste Mal, daß ich einen Fehler im Pons gefunden habe:

https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/Aktuar

[tight kelp]

actuary, yea
jenglish 🇯🇵

[compact slate]

anybody in Berlin looking for a Mitbewohner/knows someone who does?

[tame forum]

Try joining fb grps

[tropic edge]

You in Berlin already or outside of Berlin?

@compact slate

[compact slate]

In berlin

@tame forum already in then but most are untermiete

[tropic edge]

If you're already in the city, its pretty simple. Look up Facebook groups of people from your country in Berlin/Germany. Go to meetups and get to know people and make it a point to let them know you're looking for somewhere to stay. Join a Verein and make friends, and ask around.

These will get you the gold nugget places through personal connections, at least in Berlin. The more traditional routes would be camping Facebook pages like flats in Berlin and WG gesucht, working on your application skills for when an ad is put up with what you want.

Anecdote: I spent an hour+ setting up my request page and got a few hits. You just have to be persistent. Good luck!

[compact slate]

I get a good amount of requests but they are all either very far from my uni or banned by wg-gesucht 😥

[tropic edge]

So basically scams and inconvenient location. Scams are to be ignored but far away locations I wouldn't dismiss very fast. You can try house of nations, berlinnovo, and basically student housing. They are sometimes a bit on the pricy side but you'll find something.

The student housing locations might be theoretically a bit far and in isolated areas, think south west of Berlin, say Steglitz, but they are pretty cool and give you time to look for something better. If you're looking for anything long term central, you'll need the paperwork anyway. Shufa if you're working and stuff

[tame forum]

guys, so the online bank with which i am making my current account is based in UK [monese] can it pose problems due to brexit. on their website they have assured that everything will be fine and nothing will happen. but still jus wanna ask here once

[hidden briar]

nobody knows what type of brexit we're going to see, or if that will change anything

[tame forum]

well. worst case scenario hard brexit, would u feel comfortable having an account in a UK based bank?

[fair talon]

What @hidden briar said. Nobody has a certain answer to that because nobody knows what tf is going to happen 😅

[tame forum]

Hmm..... I guess i will look into German options then before deciding anything

[fair talon]

Is this for the blocked account or normal?

[tropic edge]

Is anyone here on expatrio + N26 and hasn't received their monthly transfer?

When should I get worried, and who should I contact if I am?

[faint plaza]

The hotline

Or the support via email

[tame forum]

@fair talon the normal current acc

Not blocked

[fair talon]

Ah. Well, I'm currently in the process of setting up an ING Diba account for my normal one

Ive got Expatrio for my blocked one

ING's based in the Netherlands, might be worth looking at for an online-only account @tame forum (idk what kind of services monese offers so I cant compare)

[tame forum]

Yah i will try looking into ING too tbh

Dont wanna risk running around for my money after brexit

[fleet pelican]

love ing

[fair talon]

Well, as long as they dont take as long as fucking Deutsche to open an account for me I'll be happy 😅

[spare pendant]

I'd be curious how long it takes, I bank with ING Australia and I opened my accounts in about 5 mins on the website

[fair talon]

Mostly just waiting for PostIdent.
The actual applying took 5 min

In hindsight I shouldve just tried my best with the video ident in German

[spare pendant]

ah yeah I didn't have to do anything like that, German banks seem a bit stricter about the ID stuff

[warped atlas]

Question for anyone in Germany, that‘s already opened a VL-account. (Vermögenswirksame Leistung):

How long did it take until they opened your Depot account, and how did you get notified of it? (If you opened it through Comdirect, even better)

I‘ve sent the letter for opening the account since end of last week and haven‘t received any reply whatsoever unfortunately...

[tropic edge]

@fair talon and @tame forum getting a haircut in Germany is very different. Be prepared to get a hard fade on the sides and a long top every time...

No matter how many pictures I show and how much I try to explain, I always end up walking out with a variation of a hard fade and long on top. When I ask to just shape it up so it's not too shabby (I did this once) I think he took away like 2 or 2 and a half inches...

I've had a total of 4 or 5 haircuts

[fair talon]

Guess I'm just lucky then... only issue ive had is them trying to sneak more things in without telling me they cost more

Like asking for a haircut and then they start working on the beard >.>

[tropic edge]

Yeah that too, this dude was sooo intent on working on my beard I think he spent a solid 15 minutes on the sideburns

[charred summit]

where do you live? I never experienced such a behavior

[tropic edge]

Berlin

[charred summit]

Ok move to the country side ... here the barbiers may be more honest 😉

[tropic edge]

Any uni in countryside? I'm planning to study Maschinenbau

Bachelor

[charred summit]

Hochschule für Technik und Wirtschaft Mittweida

https://www.inw.hs-mittweida.de/studium/studienangebote/maschinenbau-bachelor.html

[fair talon]

Had decent luck today with a normal haircut, but thats because I spoke the guy's native language, so no broken German or English was needed

[tropic edge]

It's a Fachhochschule

I don't understand very well how they're different but I was looking for a TU

[charred summit]

Me neither 😉

TU Dresden

[faint plaza]

Munich is better

[tropic edge]

Also bachelor of science anstatt Bachelor of engineering🤷

Munich expensiver

[faint plaza]

Ik