Good hangover cure though
#archived-culture-study-visa
final gust
fluid moss
Yeah I havent had a hangover yet
final gust
I havent drank in almost 3 years, but i would drink alittle too much when i did lol
final gust
Later, have a good one
ember shoal
Hallo suzammen! I need help from people living in Germany. My german friend just got the Abitur and he doesn't know anything about universities, how to apply, and what are the requirements to enter. Is there a website I can send to him to learn about these topics? Plus scholarship info would be good too. Thanks!
exotic barn
differs from uni to uni and depends on where hes from, you should choose a uni you wanna apply for and check their website
ember shoal
hmm but is there a general website? Like general info about it or FAQ. He is from Stuttgart if that matters
tight kelp
maybe daad
exotic barn
there should be a reddit page for that afaik
ember shoal
Wish there was
faint plaza
The Standart homepages of the university’s @ember shoal
There is normally everything written on it
ember shoal
HMmm but then you have to check every university website
but yeah, it's a good idea
together with DAAD list
faint plaza
Jup
exotic barn
@ember shoal https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/1y9luf/want_to_study_in_germany_this_is_almost/ time to step up your googling skills
tame forum
@ember shoal if he knows what course he wants to do, then he can merely go to daads page, add thr course he wants to do as a search filter, and boom: all the unis which offer his course would turn up
fair talon
DAAD is also the go-to place for scholarships 👀
glossy gazelle
Hi everyone! Does anyone know about phd process in Germany. I'm researching for a while but it seems a bit complicated to me. Probably the system is different than general... How can i reach the certain requirements for a phd ? Websites aren't quite explained. I would be appreciate if someone can help:)
exotic barn
Choose a program you want, see the instruction on the uni website, call/email them if you need help is what I’d recommend
glossy gazelle
Danke schön @exotic barn ... Actually I searched for some information on the uni websites but couldn't find very well. Maybe it's because I've looked in English, there might be more for German versions of the websites... Anyway I'll try to send an email👍 Thanks for help ...
exotic barn
yeah, uni websites are usually horrendous, especially in eng, but i think phds will be so divided that you wont find any universal answer for them
glossy gazelle
Oh understood :) I thought that the system is like the US or UK for the requirements of PhD applies 😬 but it seems different in Germany
tight kelp
hint: nothing in germany's education system is like other education systems
exotic barn
nothing in one german uni is even like in another german uni lol
vague brook
@glossy gazelle the best way is to always call them and ask, because nothing is "standardized" in this country
i have a friend who did his phd at max planck institute but i sadly don't know the details, except for the fact he did it in english, because his german is like a2/b1 level lol
glossy gazelle
My level is currently A2 but I'm expecting to be B2 until the next summer. Maybe it's just a dream 😅
desert token
I've done my PhD in Germany, if you want to know anything
details about the process and requirements are dependent on the university/research group, as mentioned already
@glossy gazelle
glossy gazelle
Second Language Teaching... My master is focusing on Turkish teaching as foreing language but I would like to focus language teaching as general for phd. @vague brook
Thank you @desert token What qualifications they want from you before apply?
*wanted
desert token
a master's degree, solid English/communication skills, interest in research
the general stuff
glossy gazelle
Did you show them your master thesis in English or German?
desert token
I didnt need to show them my thesis
my master's degree, along with my BSc degree and transcripts, had to get officially translated
to German
some places accept an English translation too
glossy gazelle
Do you have any published article? Do you have job experiences in your field? Are these important to be selected?
desert token
I had some publications prior to my application, yes
job experiences not so much
they can count, yea
have you applied to anything yet?
glossy gazelle
No... I'm writing my thesis now. I will be apply next year. So there are a lot of things to do, therefore your experiences are so important to me! Thanks a lot :)
desert token
no problem, best of luck
glossy gazelle
Last question :)) Do you have salary from your doctorate? I've heard about it, some universities pay for PhD. It's different than my country. That's why I'm asking...
burnt hare
Viel Erfolg mit deinem PhD! 😄
vague brook
Beginnst du deine Promotion, ohne vorher einschlägige - das heißt fachlich relevante - Berufserfahrung gesammelt zu haben, wirst du der ersten Entgeltstufe zugeordnet. Bei einer vollen Stelle an einer Uni beispielsweise in Nordrhein-Westfalen verdienst du dann 3.517,36 Euro brutto im Monat.
seems like you are paid if you work at uni, but there are some extra rules for hessen
glossy gazelle
Danke @burnt hare ! I hope can be accepted :)
desert token
it's very rare that a PhD gets a 100% contract
glossy gazelle
Thank you @vahti...
vague brook
50% teilzeit, just so you can survive?
vague brook
so its not that bad
desert token
u can definitely live, no problem
vague brook
i mean, enough to not die of starvation
vague brook
good to know, i'm going to look around more after im done with getting my approbation
what field do you work in?
desert token
process engineering
exotic barn
@pale saddle i found a buddy for you
pale saddle
PPD squad😎
exotic barn
Was ist die beste Universitat um Astronomie zu studieren in Deutschland?
oder Physik
faint plaza
LMU München
copper geyser
This is probably very commonly asked here, but what is the respect that a bachelors from a University and University of applied sciences have? I know the first is more academic and the second is more practical so employers prefer the second and Universities prefer the first, but realistically, what are the chances that a bachelors degree holder from a university can land a good job upon graduation, and what are the chances that a bachelors degree holder from a university of applied sciences can get into a University for a good masters education?
Do undegraduate students in universities somehow get disadvantaged when looking for a job?
Are bachelors from Applied Science universities considered bachelors in other countries like US and Canada, or are they considered vocational degrees, comparable to a diploma?
I have offers from both and im very confused, im trying to keep my options open. Please help ;-;
tame forum
@copper geyser >Are bachelors from Applied Science universities considered bachelors in other countries like US and Canada, or are they considered vocational degrees, comparable to a diploma?
ans] according to thee german law bachelor and master degrees from FH and UNi are equal according to to Bologna reform. however which graduates the companies prefer in USA and canada is something that idk.
Do undegraduate students in universities somehow get disadvantaged when looking for a job?
ans] as far as i can tell no. on the other hand big consulting firms sometimes only hire uni students. and for higher up positions graduates from universities are preferred [keep in mind these are not my experiences but stuff that i have read on the internet]. however FH students require lesser training time at the job when starting and if that is a requirement for a company, they will deff be on the look out for Fh students. infact there was a statistik that showed FH students had an on average higher starting salary than uni students
. >what are the chances that a bachelors degree holder from a university of applied sciences can get into a University for a good masters education?
ans] i was reading that sometimes Fh students have a harder time getting into uni masters since u can imagine that the course content is different and was reading about a a Fh student in an online newspaper article who got rejected from a uni which she thinks could have been due to her Fh bachelors. nonetheless u can find articles urself about stuff like this by simply searching "Fh bachelor to Uni masters" on google. yes this isnt an uncommon doubt and even newspapers in germany have written about this stigma/ (discrimination?) around fh graduates
what are the chances that a bachelors degree holder from a university can land a good job upon graduation?
ans] depends on the course, and your chances are deff not lesser than an Fh graduate.
if anyone wants to correct any info or if i have written something thats wrong pls ping me.
and dont think of all companies as the same. all companies are different in their demands and the type of candidates they want.
ultimately they will be the one making the decision not some guy on the internet.
although a newspaper article did make it seem as though Fh graduates dont have a better chance to climb up the ladder, since they stated that the Ceo of audi is one the few top level management people that has an FH degree and still has reached the place he has today
copper geyser
@tame forum thanks, really helpful
lyric glacier
can you live with Hochdeutsch in Austria?
I am planning to study in Vienna next year and I am not sure if I should keep learning normal German or maybe look for Austrian German instead?
I dont need it for studying, the program is in English
just for everyday life
opaque hollow
A good friend of mine, who is german, studied and worked in Austria for several years, his experience was, that it's not a big deal. All Austrians understand "Standardhochdeutsch" perfectly fine, but it would nice if you could adept here and there and learn the few different words or differences. It shows appreciation to their cultural diffrences. Here and there, there are some resentments against germans in Austria and vice versa. But if it's clear, that it's not your first language, they is a big chance they will be really kind to you and you can do basically whatever you want.
tame forum
it feels like in all countries of the world there are some people who have "resentments" against everyone
like damn germans are thier neighbours. some people will find any reason to be pissed.
tight kelp
it's usually because people have been cunts to each other in times where it was considered normal
karmic yew
Being old neighbour is, if anything, a perfect source of bad blood. It's not like Austria has any historical reasons to be pissed at, I don't know, Chile.
(well, aside from Chile looking like an obnoxious snake on the map, but "remove bordergore" casus belli was patched out of IRL a while ago)
exotic barn
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but how does one go about beginning to move to Germany from the UK?
Like what are the steps and requirements?
faint plaza
Money,a job and well a place where you can live
exotic barn
I more mean like, do you need a visa, or other paperwork?
exotic barn
Ah, that's a slight problem considering I have no idea what half this says
😆
@sullen robin maybe you could help
faint plaza
^
I don’t wanna translate it
Cause it is really fucking much to translate :x
@fleet pelican or can you help maybe?
fleet pelican
why me 
ohhh I'm reading it
tbh I couldn't
brexit doesn't affect me as I'm still lithuanian, only my family
fleet pelican
to be honest its just talking about what will likely happen in case of this exit, or this exit or another
but nothing really seems 'confirmed'
its more like a 'hey this might happen'
what kinda information you looking for
what will happen to you?
exotic barn
Well I mean, I'm only 14 at the moment so just really what I will need to do when I turn 18 plus in order to move to Germany, but I have no idea how to
faint plaza
So let’s say in 4 years GB is out of the EU
You would have to get a normal visa
Hard brexit ofc
Just like people from China,India,USA
fleet pelican
I would honestly say just wait til things are certain
fleet pelican
4 years is a LONG time lmao, plus nobody knows whats happening
faint plaza
^
fleet pelican
even on the website they admit they don't really know
faint plaza
Jup
exotic barn
Tbh I think that brexit won't even happen considering the train wreck our government is
faint plaza
If you are really unsure you can go to the German embassy
And ask them
Maybe they will help
@exotic barn it will
Just wait
fleet pelican
just make sure you know german
fleet pelican
people are nicer to you when they see you've made the effort
faint plaza
Don’t worry
fleet pelican
they're nicer when you speak german to them, sadly
exotic barn
Where is the german embassy and am I even allowed to go when I'm 14
faint plaza
But I would give it a shot tbh
Google it
In London is one
And yes your Are allowed with 14
They don’t have any age limit
Would be stupid if
exotic barn
Oh lol
exotic barn
So wait what do I do when I get there?
faint plaza
You Walk in
exotic barn
Just go in and ask what I do to move?
sullen robin
WER HAT MICH HERBEIGERUFEN
sullen robin
are you English or what?
sullen robin
which nation in the UK might be relevant in the future but not now I guess
anyway, the real answer is that no one really knows what is going to happen
but the best guess is that you can apply for uni here and get a student visa, or you can try to get a job here and apply for a residency permit
faint plaza
^
sullen robin
the worst case scenario is that no-deal occurs and you need to get some sort of visa; if not, a deal will probably make it much easier for young people to come over and get jobs because realistically freedom of movement is going to sneak in somehow l0l
sullen robin
yeah, unfortunately there's no other definitive answer someone can give you
maybe emigrate to Scotland and hope it becomes independent once the UK leaves 
sullen robin
no problem
exotic barn
Was ist die vertrauenswürdige Bank in Deutschland?
tame forum
are u asking the meaning or for a name?
if for a name then "Deutsche Bank"
is one of them
mystic anvil
alle Banken sind Räuber
vague brook
apobank 
tame forum
or i guess u cud go for an international Bank
oh btw guys, which bank is the best to open a current account? i bet theres some bank which has something like 5% cash back on every purchase with a card or some other related offers which could save money/ give discounts. do you guys know any bank like that?
faint plaza
I am with the Sparkasse from the beginning so sadly I don’t know 😦
tight kelp
nah they're all pretty much the same when it comes to basiskonto
tame forum
yah i jus needed a basic current account. but if they are the same then i might jus go with monese.
exotic barn
I always recommend ING because they have ridiculous offers and are generally well known and trusted with no additional fees
tame forum
would you happen to know if i would get the good stuff with a mere current account oxi?
exotic barn
not sure what you need but they have plenty of information here: https://www.ing.at/girokonto/girokonto-kostenlos. I have the basic one and it covers pretty much everything I'd want from a regular account
tame forum
Thankxxx
tight kelp
@tame forum a basiskonto is a free account offered with no restrictions to anyone by every bank by law
tame forum
and would i be wrong to think that Basiskonto means a current account?
i am sorry i am incredibly new to all this banking stuff.
tight kelp
basiskonto is a basic current account. Current account is Girokonto, which is informally referred to as just Konto
tight kelp
basiskonto is a girokonto
but it's one they are obligated to offer and thus is usually barebones in terms of advantages and is pretty much the same across all banks
tame forum
so i should better stick with a girokonto right?
as a student?
barebones dont sound gud
tight kelp
kontos with more benefits usually either cost money or have certain requirements like monthly movements of at least a certain amount of €
tight kelp
take the one that's best for you :P If you're not limited to the basis, check out various banks and what they offer and under what conditions
i couldn't get an account at an online bank because i don't have a passport and italian IDs are... in a weird spot when it comes to the procedure they use for identification
(which i'm pretty sure is in violation of EU law, but that's a story for another time)
faint plaza
Sparkasse is the best 
tame forum
by the way what could restrict/limit a person tthat they can only get a basiskonto instead of a girokonto? u keep mentioning some "limit"
tame forum
as in do u mean my spending ability?
tight kelp
just because it's your bank it doesn't mean it's the best lul
exotic barn
every bank is better than deutsche bank :^)
faint plaza
:^)
tame forum
damn it has a sketchy reputation it seems
tight kelp
i mentioned a limit? Where 👀
tame forum
take the one that's best for you 😛 If you're not limited to the basis, check out various banks and what they offer and under what conditions
exotic barn
deuba has nothing to offer, really
tame forum
u never come across these kind of first hand experiences on websites
faint plaza
Just don’t use an online bank
tight kelp
by law, they cannot refuse to open a basiskonto for whomever asks for one, that's what I meant. If there's anything that would prevent you from opening any other konto for whatever reason, you could always go for a basiskonto
tame forum
yah i am a bit wary of them too. the package i took with insurance includes a girokonto from an online bank called monese, but since i have the option to drop it, i might opt for something stable like oxi suggested. Ing or something
tight kelp
why not an online bank, just curious? @faint plaza
tame forum
i guess one reason might be no physical location if u ever have queries?
and plus banks are like doctors.... once u find a good one people dont recommend other banks
exotic barn
the one I recommended is essentially an online bank, just as a heads up
faint plaza
If you are not here for a longer term like let’s say 7 years
It will be hard to cancel it
exotic barn
I personally never needed anything that would require a physical one though
faint plaza
With a normal bank you can go there and cancel it with your Berater and stuff
As far as I know
tame forum
infact if they are online, they have more incentive to make stuff easier.
tight kelp
ffs you all have animated pfps i don't know where to put my cursor to be left in peace 👀
tame forum
i dont 😃
tight kelp
good, i'll put it on your face then
tame forum
gerne lol
tight kelp
anyway do check out online banks too, they often have incentives to choosing them. For example you might be able to get bargeld for free at various kinds of ATM, whereas with physical banks you'd normally have to pay a surplus by other banks' ATMs
except with some credit cards but that's a separate matter
vague brook
i just went to sparkasse and opened a basic account, so far it's been perfect for what i need
faint plaza
also bei der sparkasse zahle ich nichts an fremden automaten
tame forum
okay so till now. ING and Sparkasse and online banks is something for Girokontos that i shud research more
and to steer clear from Deutschbank for some reason
got it
tame forum
btw why the specific hate for Deutschbank lol? is there something specific like their service?
faint plaza
Ehhh the complete bank is fucked
Long story with them
And currently they are kicking out 17.000 employees
And in the same Time get expensive suites
vague brook
bank making money, who'd believe
faint plaza
Jup
vague brook
tame forum
well okay then. Thanks for all the insights guys. Uwu.
tight kelp
i mean, those aren't necessarily reasons to steer away as a customer. The employees thing does tell you that they're not doing so well as a company and that may be a good reason to avoid them perhaps (though it's still up in the air as far as a prospective customer is concerned), but the expensive suits things is hardly just their thing, and frankly it's just bad PR, not like it has any repercussion on what a customer would get or not get
but i see no reason to choose them over others ¯_(ツ)_/¯
exotic barn
they're involved in way more memes, sadly but it'd blow this convo out of proportion if I were to go into detail now
faint plaza
@tight kelp bei welcher Bank bist du?
tight kelp
postbank
faint plaza
Ah i See
tight kelp
why?
tame forum
doesnt a postbank in america mean a place where all the posts that the postman collects go to?
tight kelp
no idea
tame forum
yah i jus looked it up.
i am wrong
idk y tf i thought thats what its called
mandela effect
exotic barn
Do i gotta pass a German language exam to be able to get citizenship?
Being fluent in German doesn't seem easy 😐
tight kelp
you need B1+ for citizenship, which you can prove through a certificate or by having done some education in germany
exotic barn
cool then
tame forum
btw citizenship takes 8 years of work in germany. if you fulfill those requirements theres no way u wont be fluent by then.
tame forum
^
tight kelp
8 years of continuous living in germany, not necessarily work
icy mist
b1 is barely nothing, but i guess the reasoning is you can at least understand what you're being told usually
the requirements can vary depending on a lot of factors
tight kelp
5 if you're married to a german national
the requirements aren't very complicated actually
icy mist
i thought it was only 3 for people married to germans but maybe I'm mistaken
fluid moss
@tight kelp what about people with german ancestry
my grandfather was german, so could i potentially get a lower time?
tight kelp
i'm not informed on that, personally
halcyon storm
Australia #1
tight kelp
China #8
solemn bay
Germany only recognizes parents with existing citizenship, I believe. @fluid moss
toxic vessel
i've been to germany twice now, but I still don't know how to tip
do you tip 10%
or just round?
sand cosmos
10-15% is what I do
toxic vessel
would it be wrong to not tip anything
sand cosmos
Hm, depends on the situation.
It's not mandatory but it's usually you saying the service wasn't too good.
If you don't want or can tip much I'd just round up.
toxic vessel
ah i see
quasi island
Yeaa i heard u just round up
exotic barn
5-10% is generally expected
desert token
what about food delivery?
I guess the same applies, right?
never tipped at the beginning, but when it comes quick I give some Trinkgeld
faint plaza
Yeah
Same applies basically
But I take a look at how long they need
And than maybe rip
Tip*
desert token
cool
fluid moss
@solemn bay I’ve heard of Volga Deutsch, people who have German ancestors but mostly live in Russia and Kazakhstan getting shortened times. So I don’t know
tight kelp
afaik you only tip in germany if the service was good enough to warrant a bonus. Workers don't rely on tips to make a living here
solemn bay
@fluid moss Perhaps. I just know that I looked into it before and it doesn't apply in general. Maybe there are special cases. But usually you need a parent who has an existing citizenship.
vague brook
i tip 10% if i liked the service, i also tip the guy that brings me food if it happens quicker than expected
usually guarantees food coming fast next time aswell
desert token
yea makes sense
I like showing appreciation when the service is better than expected
have some cheap friends who never tip hahaha
tight kelp
it also heavily depends on the culture you come from
plus, if i find the place expensive, i probably won't tip unless the service was really good
desert token
yea, but my opinion on that is that you have to make an effort to adapt to the culture of the country you're living in
so regardless if I like to tip or not where I'm coming from, if I'm in Germany I want to know how is tipping done/viewed here
then act accordingly
that's what I tell my cheap friends lol
solemn bay
Oh yeah, if I went to another country, I would never even think about tipping if someone didn't remind me, cause it's just not a thing here.
tight kelp
adapting to the culture is fine, but it still has to be within your means. Expecting customers to tip by default is very odd to me, and if an economy needs this to be a thing for a certain class of people to get decent wages, then that economy is fundamentally broken and I don't feel any obligation to fix that at my expense.
icy mist
if you don't have the money to tip in the US, you don't have the money to go out to eat. people keep this in mind when they go out to eat. it would be extremely rude otherwise
vague brook
Yeah, need to keep the underpaid business going
In the land of freedom
Who wouldn't love to have a worker that barely needs to be paid and have him rely on the extra money he gets from clients xD
tight kelp
/r/latestagecapitalism or whatever
vague brook
Many who did not end up sharecropping worked in menial positions, such as servants, waiters, barbers and railroad porters. These were pretty much the only occupations available to them. For restaurant workers and railroad porters, there was a catch: many employers would not actually pay these workers, under the condition that guests would offer a small tip instead.
“These industries demanded the right to basically continue slavery with a $0 wage and tip,” Jayaraman says.
Yeah, it's a great tradition
tight kelp
seems worth supporting /s
of course, actively not supporting it would inevitably mean being a cunt towards the victim here
which is itself quite shitty
vague brook
Yeah, but capitalism much, if no one would take the job the salaries would have to go up or the chefs would have to serve food themselves
tight kelp
has nobody tried to make a union for waiters/restaurant workers?
that may be the only way to solve it as far as i see
vague brook
It's why I left Poland - if you agree to work for a shitty wage you become part of the problem
tight kelp
of course, union is a quasi-synonym for communist party in the usa so... :P
yeah there's the same problem in southern italy as well
fluid moss
because supporting workers is being a commie
albeit as far as i know labor unions are usually anarcho syndicalist
like the iwe
iww*
exotic barn
Not sure which uni to choose - in Erlangen or in Duisburg. If you had such a choise, which one would you pick and why?
tight kelp
depends what you want to study. One of the two may be better for certain subjects than others
if all else is equal, or depending on your priorities, you may consider the environment in and around the uni, the services offered, how cool the city is etc
tame forum
Is checking reviews and rankings the only way to determine a universities subject strength? I cant seem to think of any other way. Reviews are sometimes too vague, and rankings grt influenced by random shit like phd citations snd stuff that doesn't even affect me
The closest i have come to rankings that claim that are somewhat related to students are the rankings by https://ranking.zeit.de/che/en/rankingunion/show?esb=9&ab=3&hstyp=1&subfach=101#&left_f1=651&left_f2=23&left_f3=526&left_f4=611&left_f5=62&order=alpha&subfach=101
vague brook
Are there no Facebook groups or fora?
tame forum
I guess. That hasnt come to.my.mind yet
vague brook
These rankings are always bullshit
Because as you said they take stuff like number of flowerpots around uni
Into consideration
PhD citations are quite good tho
tame forum
Yah that is most of the rankings unsurprisingly. But these rankings which i sent show the criteria according to which they r judged...
And the criteria seems relevant to bachelor ppl
vague brook
I also misunderstood the question as in "what do people think about given courses at given uni", I just woke up
tame forum
Yah but vahti does it really affect someonr going for a bachelors degree?
tame forum
Ahh yah Md
vague brook
My Studium was a continuous 6 years long hell
But rather than overall rankings
Think about fields that interest you and look around them
And ask students how it looks like
That's the more important part
tame forum
Yah u can do exactly that in the link i sent. And most ranking websites offer that thing.
vague brook
Yea but rankings are not what the students think
Sometimes the profesor is a pure dickhead
And the rankings mean nothing
tame forum
But on the converse side u constantly hear thst german unis have standardiesed education and rankings dont matter in grrmsny
As in the studies r more or less same
vague brook
Yea are people working there also standardised?
(;
Yea so it's all about the research and people part
And how they treat students and if there are possibilities for you
tame forum
Shiet
vague brook
And that can be answered either by people working there (hard to come by for a future student) or other students (a bit easier)
Other than that, as written above, just look at the possibilities the city offers, because you'll be living there for a while
tame forum
People called Duisburg ugly
vague brook
sadlief
tight kelp
also look at possible work opportunities for after uni if you plan on staying. For example, Duisburg has a lot of IT companies afaik
tame forum
yah i tried looking at engineering jobs the cities Munich and duisburg have to offer and they seem similar in numbers
i checked out xing n other websites
tight kelp
between the two i'd avoid munich because €€€ and also bairisch
tame forum
yah n there was also this thing at TUM where after 2 sems theres a GOP exam, which if u fail twice [normally u can fail 3 times in other unis] u get exmatriculated n cant join the course anywehre else in the entire country
tight kelp
seems a bit brutal
tame forum
that was messed up n i dont think the foreign students who join the uni know about this
they get excited when they get the Zulassungsbescheid n join it for the rankings or whatever
when they start theres 700 something students. after these exams it comes down to 250
tame forum
i think the expenses of the city might be one reason why TUM is the only TU9 to take in students with even a B2. others all need C2,
faint plaza
Maybe
exotic barn
Is Bayern much more expensive than NRW?
tame forum
on average if u live in the towns and stuff i dont think so.
othervise all metro cities are expensive
Hamburg Frankfurt Munich Berlin are all expensive cuz huge cities
vague brook
yea there are 7 big ones that are supposedly the most expensive
exotic barn
Thx for the answers
tame forum
what are ther other 3?
Düsseldorf? and other 2?
tame forum
oh ye
and then theres NY which is more expensive than thee most expensive city in germany
tight kelp
it should be noted that big cities in general aren't expensive in germany
just some very large ones are
and düsseldorf isn't even that big tbh
exotic barn
düsseldorf also isn't particularly expensive. It's just hard to find an apartment there
queen talon
is theres another server where i could practice my deutsch there?
exotic barn
probably, this one is the most active though
queen talon
yeah than you
tame forum
*then
burnt hare
@tame forum, how can one uni close the door on enrolling at another one?
(TUM and its exams)
tame forum
Thats jus how GOP exams work at TUM i guess.
N thats what i read on thr uni websites from some of the students complaining
@burnt hare
At the end of the day, all unis have one owner, the governement lol. So i guess they can implement stuff like this.
burnt hare
If it's true, it's the worst idea that the governement could adopt
vague brook
seems pretty fine to me
burnt hare
You get lecturers who don't explain anything and then you find out you can't continue the course anywhere
vague brook
prevents people from treating university and tax money as an adventure
burnt hare
Yeah, it would be an advantage of that system but on the other hand, you can get better in some time
vague brook
to put it bluntly, not everyone needs to have masters degree
if 250/750 people pass it means its perfectly doable
sounds a bit elitist, but i've been studying for a long while and i've seen plenty lol
tame forum
yah people were saying that the classes were packed at the start. as in really packed.
if all those students passed it would be a hasssle for the uni too
and the students
vague brook
especially if the requirements for starting are close to nonexistent
of course alot of people will drop off
burnt hare
I agree with this statement but preventing continuing education is, hmm, strange
tame forum
btw this might be only for electrical engineering
i am not sure if this applies to all courses
vague brook
not sure, would have to ask, but she told me about failing some exam twice and getting blocked off from studying it again
tame forum
damn i dont wanna end up knowing this is some hidden thing in all unis lol
because normally uni websites say that u can fail it 3 times and then get exmatriculated
vague brook
never had huge interest in german education system
burnt hare
What is the test in actuality?
vague brook
i leeched mine in Poland
burnt hare
Do you continue the degree in Germany, Vahti, or just work there?
tame forum
from which i guess u can fail a max of 3 papers and stilll be considered a pass in the gop exams
damn, dont PHD people have to make a really good contributiion to the field to get one?
tame forum
everything ik about PHD's comes only from the movie a beautiful mind
vague brook
atleast the medical ones, very few have actual value
molten hearth
thats scary 😟
burnt hare
So it's an end-of-year exam after finishing the first two semesters, isn't it?
molten hearth
Yes
tame forum
@burnt hare yes i guess.
and they are pretty tough too.
[this is coming from a person who has absolutely no experience with the actual course and only from reading internet reviews which might be a bit exagerrated from pissed off students]
vague brook
yea don't read that
molten hearth
A natives opinion would be good
burnt hare
Maybe someone on this server is studying in Germany and could tell something more
vague brook
if you want to get some info about actual studying, join some facebook group or find some kind of forum
and ask people who are doing well
not these that fail and go rant about it
blaming everyone for their own incompetence
burnt hare
Yeah, that would be the best method to get some info
vague brook
facebook is usually the place to go
tame forum
all the canadian and american ones have subreddits
yah facebook never came to my mind
vague brook
but sometimes these groups are closed for the outside world
tame forum
thats sad 😦
for me personally, as an international student, getting kicked out of a uni and that risk always being there around the corner isnt comething i can risk anyways
burnt hare
I think it's very likely they would accept you to join
vague brook
yea they usually add people
burnt hare
Yeah, that would be horrible. However, if you feel good on some field and like it, it's always worth to try
tame forum
nah fuck no. lol
even though m generally good in studies, the risk is simply higher than the reward you get. the other uni which m planning to join seems pretty decent too.
burnt hare
So just the risk is high, I see
The other options are in Germany as well, I assume, aren't they?
vague brook
yea you have to take into consideration that if the entry-requirements are nonexistent
you'll have tons of people who shouldn't be there
and will drop out
happens at technical universities alot
tame forum
oh there are indeed entrance exams too.
dw about that
but most engineering courses are open
and the entrance exams most of the time arent that tough i think. for the more competitive courses they look at your marks. if u fall below a certain range of marks they want, then automatically rejected. Ex- med and law
vague brook
yea but theres plenty of people that are fighting over a spot
like when i wanted to grab a spot in medschool it was 22 people/1 studying place
and in germany its even funnier because there are also wartezeiten as one of possibilities to get a spot
which apparently are 6 or 7 years for medizinstudium xD
burnt hare
Really? lol
burnt hare
That's the biggest nonsense they could invent
vague brook
i also dont understand this system
when i first heard about it i thought someone is trolling
because it doesnt make any sense
burnt hare
So if you have enough points, you are enrolled. But if not, you can put yourself on the list, yeah?
vague brook
seems like it
would have to ask someone who has better clue, but from what ive read it works like that
and yes, in 7 years you get a spot lol
vague brook
🤷
in my country you simply retake the abitur and hope itll be enough this year
some try for a few years and give up
vague brook
im sceptical tho
seen some people who tried for 3-4 years, finally managed to get in by scrapping a few more points every year, and then dropped out after first semester because they couldnt handle it anyway
if you cant learn 1000 pages for abitur in 3 years of highschool, there is little chance that you will manage to learn whats expected from you during medschool
exotic barn
1000 pages lmfao?
vague brook
well, volume-wise its more, but if you compact it its pretty much like a thousand
burnt hare
I saw these books that final-year students held at school and I can confirm
vague brook
i think it was about 1200 for biology, around 800 for chemistry when I was in highschool
but theres plenty of fillers
so you can easily compact it
some unis also required physics
burnt hare
Is chemistry at high school so much based on memorisation?
burnt hare
My friend studies it and once told me they rather do tasks all the time
burnt hare
I see, so it's rather a combination of both of them
vague brook
yea 10 years later i remember nothing
when it comes to highschool biology/chemistry 🤷
(not related to my field)
life cycles of sporophytes and whatever was there
burnt hare
So what is your profession?
faint plaza
He a doc
vague brook
yea i also did 3 semesters of medical biotechnology
in the meanwhile
d:
but dropped it because it was useless
burnt hare
Yeah, I formulated the question in a wrong way. What is you specialisation if the word fits here?
vague brook
radiology
burnt hare
Sit the matura exam once again 😛
burnt hare
Ahh, the readings
vague brook
burnt hare
An essay
vague brook
yea but the wartezeit system is beyond my comprehension tho
exotic barn
Wieviel kostet es goethe institut zu registrieren um ein Deutschkurs zu bekommen?
Also
Muss ich ein A2-nivau zertifikat haben um B1-Niveau Lektion zu bekommen?
Hi, jemand hier?
vague brook
I'm pretty sure there's Einstufungstest
And the courses are damn expensive
Atleast in Germany
tight kelp
You can follow other, less expensive courses as well. If you're in germany, Volkshochschulen offer very cheap ones
then you can get certificates by sitting tests without having to pay for the whole course
and afaik you don't need the previous level's certificate to attempt a test for a certain level. You could start right off C2 if you thought you could do it
exotic barn
Yeah, goethe usually does a free assessment test before they put you in a course
tight kelp
so i have no hard cash and I need to get a ticket by one of these. My EC card works just fine if the machine has a horizontal card slot like the one you see on the right, but the one at my ubahn station only has the weird white and blue "board" under the PIN screen with the ec symbol, without the horizontal slot. Placing the card on it in any orientation does nothing. What do I do? :^)
exotic barn
Get cash
compact slate
rob a bank
faint plaza
oder fahr schwarz
tight kelp
i have to get at least to hauptbahnhof to get cash without having to pay fucking absurd fees by external atms
faint plaza
5€ is absurd? :c
tight kelp
yes
exotic barn
Say the Ticketautomat is broken and get a ticket at hbf
tight kelp
ok if that works
they seldom check tickets but with my luck they'll do it right when i fucking need them not to
i need to get a day ticket for today so i would like to avoid having to get an A3 just to get to hbf and then pay for a day ticket there where cards can actually be used
say though, why the fuck does the machine have the EC symbol when it can't be used with EC?
exotic barn
Can you send an actual picture of your Ticketautomat
tight kelp
i'm not physically there now
but it's basically like the above but without the card slit
is buying a pickaxe and smashing the thing a good option to get it replaced with one with proper features?
exotic barn
NFC?
tight kelp
what is that
thin osprey
Wieso heißt der Kanal eigentlich "Leben unterm Dach"?
thin osprey
Oh, that sounds practical. So it's basically a pun ^^
tame forum
oh shit i never read the Dach here as Roof. i dont think they were going for a pun
its literally the formal name too.
vague brook
thats why its called a pun
exotic barn
I was going for a pun when making this channel :')
vague brook
use Not in emergency
tame forum
Ox did me dirty with that pun
thin osprey
I am a native german, that's why I saw the pun I guess
tame forum
tell the mod to give you the native yellow role
thin osprey
Where do I do that?
thin osprey
Buuut... Where?
tame forum
<@&305455824174710787> this person above wishes to have the native role.
thin osprey
Oh. I thought there may be a channel for stuff like that 😅
tame forum
Np=)
tame forum
why does switzerand use the letter "ch" instead of something like "sw"?
exotic barn
it stands for Confoederatio Helvetica
tame forum
the frick. thats latin or something??
exotic barn
yeah, it simply means Helvetic Confederation
foggy prism
it’s the latin translation of Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft and similar french/italian terms
more neutral etc
“Eidgenossenschaft” is like a uniquely swiss term tho
it’s more of a historic term than a political one
kindred yew
you have CS for 3/4 of the country's languages
why isn't it CS
just to spite Swiss Germans 
tame forum
but latin has lower numbers of speakers. so this is how they honor it
tight kelp
the S in Svizzera shouldn't be capitalised in the italian name 🤔
Svizzera is only capitalised if it's the name of the country, but there it's an adjective. Weird if this is how it's officially spelled
tame forum
u can edit the page.
if its wikipedia
be the change that u want to see in the world
foggy prism
it’s official
couldn’t it just be a noun tho?
like, confederation switzerland
(admin.ch is the official homepage of the swiss government)
tight kelp
like, confederation switzerland
that would be cheating
it would sound terrible in italian, like "there is a confederation, and its name is Svizzera btw"
kindred yew
you can cheat a bit of course
nimble flax
Hi guys
nimble flax
I'm new here and i read in the rules that this is the place to talk about education in germany
nimble flax
I just wanted to ask if it's possible to start university during the summer semester
I got admitted into a degree which begins during winter but I'm having difficulties with my visa and I don't think I'll be able to make it
Damn that is a bummer
but thanks
kindred yew
you should mail your uni
tame forum
Afaik i think you (might) have to apply again.
nimble flax
I don't mind reapplying I just need to know if it is possible to start with a summer semester
i'm not really finding a solid answer on Google though
lilac hatch
them email your university
tame forum
@nimble flax depends if your programme is available in summer semester or no. And thst deoends on the uni. Google cant answer that for you. If your question was whether german unis have summer semesters. Then yah they do.
exotic barn
For instance I registered at x uni in Turkey but i wanna study university in germany. Will my point from the uni exam be important for studying in Germany or will i gotta take another exam in Germany to study uni there?
Also how can i switch to university in Germany? Do i gotta contact principles of the uni in Turkey to study in Germany / can i directly register via website of the uni in Germany or something like that?
I'll be 10th grade when summer break is over. 2 years left until my university life. I need to be prepared for that.
I heard of germans complain a lot about the education system. I bet it's still better than Turkey's but should i also consider to study in Austria? What do you guys think about education in Austria?
molten hearth
Complain about what? Difficulty?
gaunt holly
@exotic barn your english is very good have you thouht of english speaking countries to study
exotic barn
Well, thank you first of all. University fees in UK are so expensive as far as i heard. Studying in US.. idk.
@molten hearth quality
tight kelp
yeah english speaking countries tend to be expensive af
at that (price)point, the language barrier is the smallest problem
crude thicket
UK uni fees are very expensive
tame forum
UK is very expensive*
quasi island
UK is expensive? hahaha
I went there for a summer trip and we toured Oxford one day; our tour guide told us the tuition went UP that year to 9,000 pounds sterling.
one of the top unis in the united kingdom is 9,000 pounds a year
in dollars thats like, 12k ish idk
for contrast: the top universities in America (before scholarships) are between $50-70k a year
UK is not expensive
crude thicket
all of the unis in the UK are 9,250 a year now
that wasn't just the top unis
that was every uni
coming from US/Canada is not as comparable but for the rest of the world, yeah its expensive
fleet pelican
tight kelp
the fact that the USA is more expensive doesn't mean the UK isn't
scarlet hornet
Do you choose walking or going on a transportation
faint plaza
This is really interesting about Germany for younger people that move here with the parents
foggy prism
the one thing that always weirds me out is how Real is the “good” path in Germany
in Switzerland it’s the lowest
video ist mir momentan n bisschen zu lang, aber ich werds mir später reinziehen
foggy prism
it’s not the lowest
faint plaza
wie deutschland hinten dran gängt
ja es ist nicht das niedrigste
aber es ist mittlerweile fast wie die hauptschule
macht kaum noch einen unterschied
foggy prism
for reference, in Switzerland after six years of primary school there’s these things:
•Realschule: for the slower students, 3 years
•Sekundarschule: for the average students, 3 years
•Gymnasium: for the top 15 or so %, 2+4 years
you can enter gymnasium either directly after primary school or two years later, in both cases you have to pass an entrance exam. if you don’t, whether you get put into Real or Sek is handled case by case in a discussion between teachers, parents and the student. During those 3 years, there’s the possibility that you are e.g. in Real but still do a few classes with people in Sek, and if you write good grades you might change classes entirely (this goes both ways)
real/sek lead to apprenticeships which lead to a job directly
gymnasium leads to university
foggy prism
ka war noch nie in ner deutschen schule ^^
foggy prism
aber wenn ich mir unsere Dorfschule anschaue… ja
faint plaza
sondern meistens nur overhead projektoren
foggy prism
sie haben kürzlich alles renoviert und modernisiert
faint plaza
hahaha fuck
foggy prism
schüler kriegen von der Schule ein iPad für gewisse aktivitäten, nach ende der Schulzeit können sie’s entweder zurückgeben oder günstig abkaufen
faint plaza
mhm wir so gut wie kaum
foggy prism
(und nicht nur weil ich lehrer werden will :P)
faint plaza
haha
foggy prism
mein Gymnasium war aber soweit ich weiss eine Ausnahme in Sachen Grösse (also viel grösser als die meisten, weil halt riesiges Einzugsgebiet)
faint plaza
i see i see
fluid moss
als ich erstmals in meine deutsche Schule gegangen bin, war ich ja.. ein bisschen schockiert
faint plaza
meine hauptschule hier in meiner stadt war die größte in oberbayern oder sogar gesammt bayern glaube ich
wir waren 1200 schüler damals
foggy prism
und die Dorfschule versorgt zwei Dörfer (3000 und 1000 Einwohner)
faint plaza
ist jetzt aber 6 jahre auch schon her
foggy prism
resp. sie versorgt mein Dorf (das grössere) auf Primarstufe, und beide auf Real/Sek
fluid moss
nein eigentlich viel mehr @faint plaza
meine Schule sieht aus wie eine Müllfabr
Müllfabrik*
fluid moss
meine Schule ist noch nicht renoviert soweit ich weiß
die Technikräume und Computerräume sind Katastrophen
Die Hälfte von den Computern gehen halt nicht
mindestens ist die Küche renoviert
foggy prism
meine Schule hat sich halt extrem geändert, seit ich da war
faint plaza
unser schulsystem ist einfach für den Arsch
so wie es ist
und die Sanierungen gibt es nicht
faint plaza
"Fast"
foggy prism
sie feuern halt jeden Monat nen Lehrer (ohne Ersatz) und der Drogenschwarzmarkt ist einer der grössten Deutschlands, aber sonst ist alles tiptop
faint plaza
mhm
onyx bough
Sorry
exotic barn
kein ding
onyx bough
Falscher Server halt 😂
exotic barn
:^)
thin osprey
Bei uns wurde nie einer gefeuert (alles Beamte) und Drogen gab es nur nachts gegenüber.
Unsere Schule hatte nen Stacheldrahtzaun nach außen
faint plaza
Lmao welche Stadt?
thin osprey
Hildesheim
thin osprey
Nö
faint plaza
Scheint aber so
thin osprey
Abwehr von Drogenjunkies. Gegenüber ist halt ein Park, da treffen die sich.
faint plaza
Mehr Polizei Präsens
thin osprey
Nachts?
thin osprey
Großstädte
thin osprey
Größer als Hildesheim
faint plaza
I see
foggy prism
Quick cultural question:
what is the default popcorn-additive in your region?
thin osprey
salt/sugar
thin osprey
Both are equally popular. I like salt more personally though
tight kelp
are you only interested in answers pertaining to dach?
foggy prism
yea kinda
tight kelp
ok, because you made me realise I have not been to a cinema since I've moved to germany xD
foggy prism
just saw a few comments on reddit that perplexed me
which seemed to indicate sugared popcorn was the norm in Germany
and that is definitely not the case in Switzerland
tight kelp
what do you put on it? Salt i presume?
foggy prism
aye
thin osprey
Yeah, people here love sweet popcorn. salted was just introduced some years ago
foggy prism
prepare it in coconut fat and then salt a bit
and in cinemas you can't even get sugared
or if they do have it you'd have to ask for it cause by default they give it salted
I don't like it with sugar. caramel is fine tho
solemn bay
Just salt? Not butter or anything?
foggy prism
I mean I prepare it in fat or oil, but I don’t add extra butter after the fact, no
wouldn’t that just make them soggy?
solemn bay
Hmmm, no, it depends what kind of mixture you put on it specifically.
I think in English speaking countries it usually has some kind of salt and butter topping that is made so it's not soggy. Not just plain butter by itself.
But I don't really know.
Either way, they are usually butter flavoured and not plain salt flavoured.
tight kelp
we have butter in italy too, but it's not default. By default it's salt and some places serve them with butter too. Not soggy
i like both
but i don't like the chocolate topped ones that some places serve
compact slate
we usually only have salted popcorn
in israel though
sugar ones don't go well with soft drinks
foggy prism
I’ve only ever had those prepackaged chocolate ones which are just too plain to be nice
I could imagine it being theoretically nice
tight kelp
nah they're overwhelming :D
hidden briar
Sugar was the only thing you could get maybe a decade ago, salted or caramel flavor is getting more common
hidden briar
Hab deinen Kommentar gesehen auf Reddit 🙂
foggy prism
nicht dass ich meine redditidentität sonderlich geheim halte aber was lässt dich schliessen, dass es ich war?
tight kelp
inb4 /u/Sascha
hidden briar
Schweizer, conlang, mehr oder weniger dasselbe auf Reddit geschrieben
hardy wren
sugared popcorn is definitely the norm here, to the point that i cant even imagine salted popcorn. should try it some day 🤷
exotic barn
I wouldn't recommend salted popcorn, truly awful
hardy wren
ok i wont
tight kelp
whattt
salted popcorn is good
it's not even a strong enough flavour that you can hate it really, unless you hate salt in general
it is better with butter though, flavour-wise
and it's also, you know, one fewer way of mindlessly introducing heaps of sugar into our poor bodies :')
shut gorge
Sugared popcorn is what is truly awful :^)
dry nacelle
Its the biggest wtf moment in the life of every austrian when we find out that in germany popcorn is sweet by default
Here popcorn is salty by definition
You can get chocolate or caramel popcorn at cinemas, but only in prepacked cups
But just sugared popcorn is unheard of in austria 😛
compact slate
Salted popcorn is the best
solemn bay
Is that just in cinemas btw? Can you buy various types of popcorn in supermarkets?
dry nacelle
The popcorn in supermarkets is usually pure and raw so you can pop them and add whatever you want at home
solemn bay
Yeah, there is that, but I mean the premade popcorn which is usually alongside chips.
dry nacelle
We dont really have that
solemn bay
Oh I see.
dry nacelle
You can buy the premade chocolate or caramel popcorn cups like at cinemas in some big supermarkets
But not at your local store
solemn bay
It's for the best. Popcorn is annoying and just gets stuck in your teeth anyway.
dry nacelle
Lol
tight kelp
true tbh
dry nacelle
And it sticks to your clothes making you all messy when you leave the cinema 😛
and yet i love my chocolate popcorn
foggy prism
I don’t thnik I’ve ever bought popcorn from a supermarket
but microwave popcorn here I’ve only ever had salted
shut gorge
I've never heard of chocolate popcorn and I'm glad I haven't
exotic barn
Ohne festen Wohnsitz und als Minderjähriger wird das etwas schwierig werden. Ersteres brauchst du meistens auf jeden Fall
faint plaza
Ja brauchst du definitiv
Und unter 18 kannst du ne Wohnung vergessen wenn deine Eltern die nicht zahlen
tight kelp
man kann sich im Hotel anmelden, glaube ich
faint plaza
Tja die meisten Hotels kicken dich aber nach einer Zeit raus
Die nehmen keine Dauergäste
Nur bordinghouse macht sowas
Oder Hostel
Aber kein Hotel
thin osprey
Das größere Problem wird sein, dass du kein ordentliches Konto bekommst, solange du unter 18 bist.
hardy wren
popcorn from supermarkets is also mostly sweet popcorn here
tight kelp
what a cursed land
tame forum
caramel popcorn with salt popcorn and cheetos in dubai is good. but i never buy them lol. too exp.
true citrus
Do my dudes know a thing or two about the blocked bank account auslanders?
I was wondering if I'd still need it even if I had a family member to back me up financially in DE
warped atlas
Firstly, „Goddamn! A Patrick Rothfuss fan!“
You need a Verpflichtungserklärung from said family member that says s/he will support you through out the years
I think the monthly given allowance should also be written in the Erklärung
Not quite sure what else should be written. Either consult google, or directly ask the Ausländerbehörde regarding what‘s needed in the Verpflichtungserklärung @true citrus
true citrus
thanks bro
tame forum
if the period of study is long. (3 years) the embassy prefers a blocked account.
Formal obligation letter doesnt suffice in those cases and u risk ur visa getting rejected
@true citrus
quasi island
how long does it take to get a swiss visa?
warped atlas
Check the embassy near you
But typically 6-8 weeks
That‘s a rough estimate for all countries
quick shoal
mm germany
median badge
Has anyone went to German courses of Goethe in Germany ?
exotic barn
🙋
median badge
which city did you go to
and how was it all together?
I know A1 german and I am thinking to go there for A2
vague brook
I did b2 and it was a waste of time
vague brook
Depends how fast you want to learn, I heard quite a few people saying the same thing
German courses in Germany go way too slow
For people who do them to learn the language asap
exotic barn
I did b2.1 in Bonn and i only got rid of my fear of speaking but can’t say the course was worth the price
vague brook
Yea the speaking part is the only good thing
But you could just go discord and talk to people and buy yourself something nice for that money
exotic barn
Not at all
median badge
So not B2 
vague brook
Can't really say because I avoided all courses till b2
median badge
@exotic barn so it is a bad idea ?
solemn bay
It depends partially on what your goal is and your personal obstacles.
exotic barn
I think you would be overwhelmed
solemn bay
Perhaps consider simply hiring a tutor as an alternative.
vague brook
It really depends, both on you and the circumstances
Because you can get a teacher that's not so great, or your group can be well, not optimal
So two people who did a course in the same institute can tell you two completely different things about it
When I attended a course in a private school however
We had people coming for one day to check if they like it before they decided
It's weird that Goethe doesn't do that
Or atleast no one did it when I was there
exotic barn
I mean, the course was ok but overpriced i guess
vague brook
Yea I did it because Arbeitsamt paid for it lol
Goethe courses seem way too overpriced for what they offer, at least here the groups were kinda big
compact slate
I don't think anything under B2 is worth going to course for
vague brook
When I did c1 in a private school we had 3 people in a group and it was totally different experience
compact slate
reaching A2 is literally a couple month of chill learning
B1 if anything is where it gets harder
vague brook
Yea when you learn alone you hit a wall around b2
And you need a little guidance
But a2, you open any book on random page and you learn new things 🤷
median badge
I mean I say A2 but what I mean is the course in Germany idk where they will put me
I thought it could boost my morale and also maybe help me a bit
Since living there for a month could help a bit
I don't think it is that easy to learn by yourself
vague brook
depends on many factors, mostly motivation
and your plan/resources that you are using
median badge
What did you do to reach A2 level?
vague brook
i dont know
i mean, i never really thought what level am i, i was just learning the language 🤷
started with A2/B1 resources and just went from there
solemn bay
I found A2 easy to achieve just by going through all the basic steps, you know, like learning every grammar topic for that level, doing a bunch of reading and writing, and worksheets.
If you just do the work, it comes naturally. Ask tons of questions and be curious and it helps you learn quickly.
vague brook
yea i dont even know the difference between A1/A2 and B1
there are just basics you need to learn anyway
exotic barn
B1 is easier than A2 tbh