I feel generally welcome in most cities but Frankfurt has just been ehhhhh they’re not too friendly about it
#archived-culture-study-visa
exotic barn
tight kelp
good luck ^^
exotic barn
Thank you!
mild quiver
how far in advance do German landlords typically ask for a rental deposit
like say my move in is April 1st is there a limit or norm to how much before then they want by the deposit by
for my current place they only asked 2 days before but they weren't strict about it so I don't have much to go off on
hidden briar
first third with the start of the rent contract, 2nd third a month later, 3rd third a month after that
mild quiver
and if the deposit is all at once is the normal just at the start?
current description I'm looking at is "Kaution entweder bar oder Bankbürgschaft auf erste Anforderung ohne Vorbehalt der Einrede. Kautionsversicherungen werden nicht akzeptiert." and although I understand the last sentence I'm not sure about the first's exact meaning
hidden briar
you can if you want, but afaik it can't be demanded
exotic barn
when i saw this channel i thought dach meant "roof"
tight kelp
it does. It's a double meaning
exotic barn
Hi everyone, is there anyone that's doing their PhD in Germany here?
tame forum
in case u dont find anyone here, you will surely find someone on reddit.
exotic barn
How much is shipping usually in Germany for a small envelope?
Like if I were to ship from Germany to another German city
1-2oz if that helps with anything
faint plaza
Oz doesn’t help
pale saddle
Well the imperial units dont help me
faint plaza
Kg would be useful
pale saddle
70 cents is standard for a letter
pale saddle
2 oz is 56g
You can send something in an envelope for 0.85€ (up to 50g) or 1.45€ (up to 500g)
Heres the full table with all dimensions
foggy prism
huh, does Germany not have A-Post (next day arrival) and B-Post (takes a day longer, but cheaper)?
pale saddle
Falls es so ist finde ich davon nichts auf der Webseite
faint plaza
Gibt Prioritäten versand
Aber soweit ich weis und glaube nur für Firmen
Haben solche Sticker dafür im@hotel
foggy prism
Bei uns gibt's sogar drei Prioritätsstufen. Für normale Briefe:
85 Rappen - B-Post, kommt übermorgen an
1 Franken - A-Post, kommt morgen an
~50 Franken - "Urgent", jemand fährt jetzt los und liefert es aus
empty moon
Greetings! Is there anyone from Leipzig? Need advice from local ^^
exotic barn
just post the question and someone might answer
empty moon
I'm from Czech republic, me and 2 other people are thinking about attending metal concert in Leipzig. It will start at 20:00 and will probably end at like 23:00?
We would like to have a rest somewhere (especially for the driver) before we hit the road again in the early morning. What are our options here? Any cheap places for 1 night? It could be like for 6-7 hours only. What about sleeping in car, are there any "more legal"places where it could work out?
Thanks in advance
I read that sleeping in car in Germany is not strictly illegal IF it's only for purpouse of regaining energy of driver (just like 1 night), not a caravan (just a car)
Is it right?
empty moon
Yeah, I thought so. That's why I would like to ask someone
exotic barn
hi everyone, can someone clear out some doubts about health insurance? As far as I know if I have a PhD position (TV-L E13 paying scale), they will take a certain amount from my brutto income automatically, right. When I look for health insurances they compare them based on their monthly price, for example HKK wants around 70 € per month. Is this monthly payment additional to the percentage they already take off my income, or what?
hidden briar
it should be 14,6% of your gross income (split between your employer and you) plus the Zusatzbeitrag between 0.1% and 1%
exotic barn
so, they just take the money in the first place, I don't need to make any extra payment myself, right?
hidden briar
yes
empty moon
Hey! Me again. I guess there is no one from Leipzig, but in general, is it possible to know which places are more OK for parking? For example if we just want to take a nap for few hours and then continue
faint plaza
At the Autobahn on the Parkplatz mostly it is okey
empty moon
Oh, okay. Thanks!
faint plaza
You Are welcome!
faint plaza
So Jon you are have the Full Right about Everything as it states in the Paper.
1.About the court Process
Representation in private and legal arbitration
You can Lay down the Complete Court Process
You take every mail you get from him basically
And you can give the power of attorney to any one Completly or just as a part @drowsy temple
maybe that clears it up
and if you need some more help just tag/ping me
faint plaza
@drowsy temple
barren cipher
Hallo, I have a question about "duale Ausbildung". Is there an official (even unofficial, but legitimate) website where I can access to and apply for all available schools offering dual education?
If there's none, how could I apply for dual education in Germany?
Extra question: is Goethe Institut's certificate valid for my German proficiency?
Vielen Dank im Voraus.
tight kelp
Wait for someone else to answer the first part but yes, a goethe institut certificate is certainly valid
hidden briar
Ausbildung im dualen System or duales Studium? For Ausbildung don't worry about a school, find a company that offers it
sick imp
I'd like to point out that "valid" depends on the institution. TU Wien didn't accept Goethe until recently, for example. It's always best to ask, though most people should accept Goethe and hopefully list the certificates that they accept on their website.
tame forum
@barren cipher hochschuledual.de
but its only for the state of bayern.
there are 2 types of duales studium....... have to each company wher u might want to work, and THEN to the unis. and teh companies might call you for an interview and other stuff. so firstly- its better if you are in germany, and secondly, the months before you can apply to companies. you are still not late and entirely depends on the luck. nonethless visit the website for all kinds of differences between the 2 kindsof duales studium.
barren cipher
@tight kelp @hidden briar @sick imp @tame forum Thank you all. Herzilichen Dank fuer eure Muehe.
It seems to be more complicated than it appears so already. I have no idea what is the difference between the two.
I don't know if anyone wrote to you like this, but bear with me, don't want to waste your time. Thanks for your patience and reading in advance.
I would like to apply to anything IT-related, probably Informatik, I think. I've been self-studying Web Development, and in programming one doesn't require a degree.
I don't want to study Master in a German uni. Don't like Papierkram, don't like researching about things nobody cares and gather dust in archives, and don't have the money to survive if I ever be in Germany, even with a part-time job. Yeah, I know in German it's free and there are free programmes in English too. I'm no European, still too expensive for me. (And I'm damn sure they will demand me to go through a preparatory college located in Germany, that allows no part-time job, which means there 'you're dead, son!')
Duale Ausbildung is the way for me (to each their own. Sorry about criticizing unis, just not my cup of tea), where I prefer get immediate, direct, no-bullshit, first hand experience with the reality of German work environment, its economy, and earn money in a relevant job while getting educated and work experience . I don't care how much social prestigious a master degree might give, only care about quality practical education, and no need to work in an irrelevant part-time job.
And some extra info, if it helps: I have IELTS (7.5 out of 9);can speak German adequately (though rusty nowadays); know Russian, Turkish, and French. I just turned 27 old.
tame forum
wait so do you have a bachelors degree?
barren cipher
Yeah, have a bechlors degree long time ago (and I'm sure they won't accept it anyway). Please I don't want to study in uni XD (even if they gave me scholarship, let alone accepting my degree). I need a plain relevant job and solid practical education with applied science .
tame forum
AFAIK (i dont live in germany and could be wrong) and the type of course you want wherein one spends time only in a work setting and learn exists for "Handwerker" type professions like (plumber , Electricians etc.) . for more STEM related stuff people opt for Unis with duales studium to get the experience part of it.
anyone please feel free to correct me.
and regarding your bachelors degree, why do you think it wont get accepted in a University.
barren cipher
I'm pretty sure there is such education for IT field too.
Lass es, I'm not into uni. I just hope there is something for IT in Duale Ausbildung.
My bachelor is STEM related, Electrical Engineering. Though I was a mediocre student back then. Didn't like anything about it, finally concluded that programming is for me instead.
tame forum
yah it possibly does exist there are tons of Ausbildung courses
barren cipher
Question is: how can I find them, apply, and stay in contact? I already feel confused by all the google research.
tight kelp
To immigrate into Germany from outside the eu you need to have enough funds to prove to the government that you can sustain yourself. The only way out I see is trying to find a job in Germany from outside, with a company willing to sponsor you moving to Germany.
solemn bay
I don't think you need any qualifications to find a job in something like IT, right?
It might help but I don't think you need it.
tight kelp
Unless you have a scholarship or something, I don't think studying in Germany is possible without enough funds saved up
tame forum
yah^^
solemn bay
It's probably easier to find eine Ausbildung from inside Germany too, right? If you try to get a job first and then look for that.
barren cipher
How come a refugee can study for free there, and I as a honest hard working fellow must pay heavy price? (sorry, just had to let it out this time)
solemn bay
The situations aren't really comparable.
tame forum
refugees are seen as a completely diferent class of people
and they are a smaller group of people (around a million)
barren cipher
That means I should become one then? I don't get the logic :[
tame forum
yah but u cant become a refugee by choice
solemn bay
And you wouldn't want to.
barren cipher
Of course I care about my cultural environment
tame forum
i bet theres a rule thats says that ur country of origin should be going through political unrest
to become one.
and yah even if u think that refugees are free of red tape..... thats not completely true
solemn bay
Yes, generally a refugee is someone who has no choice but to escape their country because they aren't safe there.
barren cipher
I'm ex-muslim, who cannot announce he's atheist, unless I'm looking for a death wish (and yeah, I will get officially hanged)
In Iran, from a minority too.
tame forum
hmm, if you dont get your answer here, you should try asking on r/de on reddit.
about the ausbildung studium thing
state your question in german though, its an all german subreddit
barren cipher
Vielen Dank trotzdem. Sehr nett von euch.
tame forum
Kein Problem
solemn bay
@barren cipher Maybe you should apply for asylum if you feel your current situation is comparable to other asylum seekers.
barren cipher
@solemn bay wow "apply"?xD sorry... how so, frage ich mich?:)
(I cannot use visa/mastercard nor paypal to do online business freelancing nor buy and sell stuff internationally, unless I use some shady middle man's firm to do the work for me. I didn't do anything wrong, my nationality became a problem, something that I was born with and didn't choose by free will... not to mention how many times I have to tell others that I'm not steretypically Arab nor muslim, nor anybody here thinks of 'terorizing'. I didn't ask for this. Politicians fight; people have to pay for their shit-show here... sigh)
tame forum
and on top of that USA's shitty sanctions on iran
solemn bay
I don't know much about it but you can consider these: https://www.dw.com/en/how-to-apply-for-asylum-in-germany/a-18723501
https://openbordersimmigration.com/applying-for-asylum-and-refugee-status-in-germany/
http://www.asylumineurope.org/reports/country/germany/asylum-procedure
barren cipher
@tame forum Yep, such is life...
@solemn bay You've been a great help., mate.🙏
quiet idol
Ich habe gesehen, dass TestDaF mal 100 Euros weniger als die C1 Prüfung von Goethe Institut kostet. Gibt es dann je einen guten Grund, warum man nicht den TestDaF für C1 wählen sollte?
tight kelp
mit TestDaF kannst du kein Niveau wählen, du schreibst einfach den Test und du bekommst ein Niveau je nach Ergebnissen
quiet idol
Ist das nicht eigentlich immer auch ein Vorteil?
tight kelp
oder eher eine Bewertung, die mehr oder weniger an einem CEFR-Niveau zugeordnet werden kann
quiet idol
im schlechtesten Fall würde ich B2 statt C1 bekommen, anstatt dass ich nichts bekommen hätte
foggy prism
das klingt eigentlich echt angenehm, ich muss allerdings sagen, dass ich, vor ich auf diesen Server bin, nie was von anderen Tests als Goethe gehört hab
tight kelp
ja, imo ist TestDaF besser. Aber ob das für dich geht kommt drauf an die Einrichtung bzw. Unternehmen wofür du das Zertifikat brauchst
foggy prism
(was relevant ist weil prestige)
quiet idol
also gibt es Unternehmen, die den TestDaF nicht akzeptieren?
tight kelp
kA
quiet idol
vielleicht ist es dann sicherer, die Goethe C1 Prüfung zu bestehen, weil obwohl ich eher nur 170 Euros statt 270 bezahlen möchte, trotzdem wäre 270 besser als 440....
exotic barn
I’m not sure about the prestige. More unis accept TestDaF than Goethe afaik.
quiet idol
That is pretty bullshit that you even have to waste money on more than one C1 exam just to be able to apply to everywhere.
exotic barn
I think TestDaF and DSH are accepted everywhere but I’m not 100% sure. Goethe maybe too but most unis require Goethe C2
tight kelp
well, it is bullshit but it can't be helped unless a standard can be agreed upon and trusted globally by all, which is not a thing that happens often in our world
tame forum
yah i never got this too..... C2 is like God tier german, where for most uni purposes C1 shud be more than enuf
tight kelp
btw if you have the option between several tests, aside from price, the way it unfolds is a factor
for example some peopel are averse to how testdaf's spoken section is done by talking to a mic and not a person
tame forum
what fr? theres no real person?
tight kelp
C2 is like God tier german, where for most uni purposes C1 shud be more than enuf
cefr levels are not set in stone, so each test determines its own parameters for considering someone at a level or not. If unis think that a test is too loose or fallible they'll require a higher level for that test than others
theres no real person?
no. The hearing section is done with recording and the speaking one by having you record several items
i mean, there are people there but they don't test you directly
quiet idol
C2 level required at unis? I thought DSH-2 was C1 level and that is required usually
tight kelp
they just coordinate the test and make things work, but the evaluation happens in Bochum where the files are sent
tame forum
if ur planning to take goethe route, then some unis like darmstadt need C2
if u take testdaf no uni will reject you with with a 16
quiet idol
darmstadt wants DSH-2, which is C1
tame forum
yah but from geothe they need C2 cert
tight kelp
@quiet idol it depends on the uni. Usually B2 to C1 is required but each sets its own rules. I think what Suzu was referring to was that they may require different levels depending on what certificate you bring. And btw i don't know if it actually happens
tame forum
wait lemme check real quick once again
tight kelp
as for the reasons why that would be the case, see above
quiet idol
ok, I read for Darmstadt they wanted you to take C1 from Goethe or TestDaF and apply with those, and then get DSH-2 until immatriculation
exotic barn
Hey guys i got a question
Should I go to international school for my senior year in high school in France or Germany so i can learn the language then go to university there
what answer do you expect in a german server 
Well I just mean in general too
Like going to one in general
faint plaza
The question is what country looks better to you? @exotic barn
You can only answer that one yourself
exotic barn
That and if international school is a good idea for senior year
barren cipher
@tight kelp @quiet idol @tame forum I cannot believe with my own eyes, reading here about C1 and C2? Unless we're talking about PhD or manager position, why the hell there is a need for such an ridiculously high level? What's next, to be able to speak 6 different languages, be able to cook, clean, and juggle? hahah
While on the other hand, when it's about English programmes I mostly read the least amount of IELTS score required is 6-6.5 up to master. I don't get the logic of German education at all.
tight kelp
the logic of everything in our society is that wherever there isn't a global rule, everyone makes their own
it's as simple as that
tacit briar
since when is C1 a high level? Many people around me claim that I'm "at least C1" and I feel I can barely communicate
barren cipher
@tacit briar I don't believe it. Can they recite any Goethe's work smoothly then?
tight kelp
what people say is irrelevant, to be honest. C1 is a high level, but it's not as outlandish as Seeker makes it sound
cefr levels have nothing to do with knowing literature
barren cipher
For me a C1 can debate in that language well.
tacit briar
I just mean, if people are right, and I am C1, then I don't think C1 is a high level that is enough for communication in an environment like academia
(just my opinion, feel free to disagree)
quiet idol
@barren cipher I kid you not, I applied for an airport job, and the English test for that consisted of "write down the English or German words for the folllowing words: Flughafen, exit"
English requirements in Germany are fucking ridiculously low even for jobs and uni programmes that should require extremely good English
barren cipher
That's how I assess personally: accent-free, can talk profoundly - not just chitchat, and knows ins and outs of the applied use of language (like be able to use and understand lots of idioms; language is not separate from its culture).
If organizations and institutes want to flatter us by exaggerating our proficiency, von mir aus, good, I can brag about it. But personally, I won't take anyone with such degree alone seriously myself.
solemn bay
Having an accent is irrelevant though.
You can be perfectly fluent, as fluent as a native speaker, and still have an accent.
barren cipher
@quiet idol Guess you have to apply for a English programme. I saw some free ones.
quiet idol
some jobs specifically require "no accent", e.g. call centers
solemn bay
That's a specific job requirement though. It's nothing to do with cefr level.
tacit briar
you can also have no accent and still hurt grammar very hard 😄
barren cipher
@solemn bay I don't want to burn extra calorie on accent. Nobody speaks like another one, everyone is unique. Please get what I meant by accent. And I said "personally". I don't judge a person by it, but I find it kinda annoying, and actually expect someone who calls him/herself a "C1" at least sound transparent as if being a native.
solemn bay
That's not a realistic expectation.
barren cipher
To each their own, lad.
tacit briar
CEFR says, that C1:
" Can understand a wide range of demanding, longer clauses, and recognize implicit meaning.
Can express ideas fluently and spontaneously without much obvious searching for expressions.
Can use language flexibly and effectively for social, academic and professional purposes.
Can produce clear, well-structured, detailed text on complex subjects, showing controlled use of organizational patterns, connectors and cohesive devices."
which looks like a reasonable requirement for academia
solemn bay
Yes, that seems like a reasonable expectation for a university student.
copper mist
I want TestDAF 4 😢
golden galleon
I want to ask you a very important question guys. I'm thinking about studying bachelor in computer science in a university of applied sciences in Germany, but I want to know if the bachelor's from this type of unis is accepted world wide or not ( like would I be able to study masters in the USA for example)
thank you for your time
weak robin
What is spider in German? My dad says it is eierkophf and google translate says spindel.
pale saddle
lol
tacit briar
"Eierkopf ist ein umgangssprachlicher Begriff, der, mal eher abwertend, mal (selbst-) ironisch, als Bezeichnung für Wissenschaftler verwendet wird. Der Begriff zielt auf die laut Vorurteil bei Akademikern besonders häufige (Halb-)Glatze ab."
HLI 😂
pale saddle
Klingt nach etwas was ein Eierkopf sagen würde
solemn bay
@weak robin Wrong channel and neither of those are correct.
vital glade
Ich habe eine Frage für jemanden der in Deutschland studiert(e)!
sand cosmos
Hau raus :)
vital glade
Also ich bewerbe mich für viele unis am 1en Juni (der erste Tag dass ich mich bewerben kann) und dann 11en Juni ziehe ich nach Berlin.. Also wenn ich eine Zulassungs/ablehnungsbrief bekomme, wird es zu meinem zuhause geschickt und natürlich bin ich nicht da. Schicken die unis den Brief auch per E-Mail oder so?
Vllt eine dumme Frage aber was auch immer 🤷♀️
Cool! Ok ja ich weiß nicht genau wie es funktioniert, außerdem muss ich mich durch Uni assist bewerben
empty moon
Hey! anyone from Leipzig online?
tame forum
ask your question, if the person comes online later they can answer
golden galleon
I want to ask you a very important question guys. I'm thinking about studying bachelor in computer science in a university of applied sciences in Germany, but I want to know if the bachelor's from this type of unis is accepted world wide or not ( like would I be able to study masters in the USA for example)
thank you for your time
exotic barn
Yes, German degrees are recognised in the US
copper mist
@vital glade Our national Egyptian post service has countless incidents in failing to deliver the acceptance letters from unis in Germany to people in Egypt, so what most people do is they write the address of someone they know already living in Germany and that person can send them the letter later through private shipping services. The point is that you don't have to write your real current address neither must you receive the letter in person from the uni. If you're sure you're going to Germany on June 11th and know the address you're going to, I think it will be fine to write that instead. If you're however not sure, you can contact the unis you're applying to and describe your situation. Just google (uni name + international office) and email them.
empty moon
We're attending a concert in Leipzig (venue called Hellraiser), I asked someone from organizators about parking. Got response that there are a lot of parking spaces along the street (that there is no problem to park here). I was wondering, can I check anyhow if some streets are valid for parking or no?
Adress is 4 Werkstättenstraße, Leipzig
tight kelp
google streetview perhaps
kindred yew
pale saddle
seems fine for leipzig
tight kelp
I think all cities have coverage by now, only smaller settlements and rural areas don't
pale saddle
by now? i thought they started with the larger cities and then stopped due to legal issues. Did they resume?
tight kelp
I was under the impression they hadn't started at all due to legal reasons and then managed to cover cities
pale saddle
hmh
so yeah maybe dont trust street view too much, some of these pictures are apparently over 10 years old
whole pecan
Erklärung bitte
hidden briar
the sign in the hand is "no restrictions on speed and overtaking"
pale saddle
(actual germans please correct me if wrong) afaik the sign doesnt always mean that you can drive as fast as you want
it just means that any restrictions put in place by other signs are no longer in effect
But should you be driving on a Bundestraße, the standard speed limit of 100 km/h does still apply
on the Autobahn however this does mean that there is absolutely no limit but the laws of physics
tame forum
lol
exotic barn
@pale saddle correct
hidden briar
"Ende sämtlicher streckenbezogener Geschwindigkeitsbeschränkungen und Überholverbote"
pale saddle
yup
tight kelp
so this website for finding apartments to rent (immobilienscout24.de) is asking me whether I have "Bewerbungsunterlagen vorhanden" in order to contact a Vermieter. What is meant by Bewerbungsunterlagen here? I have already given information about my income and work status so surely this isn't about work-related documents?
solemn bay
I'm just guessing but could it be like, character references from previous Vermieter?
tight kelp
apparently they (at least this site) collectively refers to all documentation Mieter have or may be asked to present as Bewerbungsunterlagen... calling it bewerbung is bad taste imo 😅
so essentially it's asking me whether I have proof of my income, but it may also be something else
faint plaza
no
it is like
a CV for the Vermieter
like your last paychecks
and stuff
and if you are rent worthy
tight kelp
like your last paychecks
yeah that's what I said
and frankly if that isn't enough for them they can f right off. There's a lot of places up for rent here and I'm not willing to be bossed around every time I want to change something in my own life
faint plaza
in most big cities it isnt enough
in munich you have to give them everything of you basiccaly
your work contract
how much you get payed
what ya parents are doing
stuff like that
tight kelp
luckily I don't live in a place that big
it's fair to want to know something of whom you'll rent your property to, but there must a limit to how much people have to subject themselves just to have a place to stay. If people had more reservations about that, renters wouldn't be able to afford bossing people around
tacit briar
You can avoid being "bossed" like that by paying an agent for finding a place for you. Just a hint @tight kelp
tight kelp
yeah that's my back-up plan in case I can't find anything on my own
tacit briar
I was once trying to find something by my own, but after a few visits decided that I don't have time for all that crap - so just did what I described
mild quiver
what are common jobs Germans do for a bit of side income
nothing official but things like dog walking where I can just get some cash in hand for the day
faint plaza
Baby sitting, dog walking, Umzugshelfer @mild quiver
barren cipher
Are they any German discord servers where natives just talk a lot? I just want to join in, stalk, and listen to them all day long.
I don't know if sharing other servers is allowed here, so dm me, if have any. Thanks in advance.
fleet pelican
go on any popular german youtubers/streamers discord and it will be bound to have what you're looking for
barren cipher
Could you please share with me the ones you know? I have no idea. I'm too old to be a gamer/follower to get to know them.
exotic barn
search for "gronkh", he has a pretty big discord server
barren cipher
@exotic barn Thanks :D
Do I have to do anything special to be allowed to join voice chat there? And would it bother anyone to just listen there?
exotic barn
no idea, I'm not in the server myself. You're better off asking someone there, sorry lol
barren cipher
Toll XD
gentle heron
Denke mal hier ist ein guter Ort, um zu fragen: Ich muss demnächst was beim Zoll abholen, brauch ich dafür lediglich meinen Personalausweis, das Geld, um die Zollkosten zu decken, und das Informationsschreiben, was mir vom Zoll zugesandt wurde? Tracking-Nummer ist ja eigentlich nicht mehr relevant, da das Paket als zugestellt gilt.
golden galleon
Can I study PhD with a master's degree from a hochschule ?
tame forum
most prolly you can. might depend on how icky picky the Uni is. better to ask them
golden galleon
thanks
barren cipher
@fleet pelican @exotic barn OMG they talk a lot of shit there. Mein kopf... it hurts XD
golden galleon
If any of you know: how much does an average student spend per month in a city like ULM
and would you recommend me going there because I found a CS course held entirely in English
tight kelp
plucky swan
Hey so weird question lmao
How is Kristina Bach and her music viewed in Germany?
Do people think her music is cheesy at all?
Because I kinda do
Something about the lyrics “erst ein Cappuccino, dann ein bisschen vino, und dann sehr viel duuUUU“ is really...
idk really how to describe it
idek if my question makes sense
also the tune of her music is really cartoon-like, which adds to my reasoning behind asking this question lol
😂
tame forum
knowing germans they would definitely find it cheesy
surreal ermine
Mit "certificate of health", ist da diese Belehrung von der Stadt gemeint oder soll ich mir da vom Arzt was ausschreiben lassen?
tacit briar
@plucky swan I'm not sure what the people think about her, but I remember hearing that song in the radio, so I think there have to be some who like it 😂 I personally find it not too bad, let's be honest, half of the Helene Fisher's lyrics are similarly dumb 😉 and she's ultra popular
surreal ermine
Hat sich geklärt
tacit briar
@golden galleon serki already showed you the numbers. But since I live in Ulm area, feel free to ask questions about the city. I didn't study here, but I know a few people who studied CS/IT or similar here, so may be also able to answer some questions about the Uni.
@surreal ermine was hat sich geklärt?
Guten Morgen übrigens
surreal ermine
Meine Frage
tacit briar
@surreal ermine was für einen "certificate"?
surreal ermine
"certificate of health"
tacit briar
Hab gesehen, ich verstehe nicht was das ist
War das eine Frage für eine andere Frage oder was?
surreal ermine
Naja ein Stück Papier auf dem steht dass ich gesund bin und nach Japan kann oder so, das wollen die von mir 🤷
tacit briar
Ach so was 😅
Die Japaner wollen wissen, ob du gesund bist, oder nicht, vermutlich
Wann fährst du nach Japan? @surreal ermine
compact slate
@surreal ermine ich brauchte sowas nicht 🤔
Sie lassen dich ein Visum unterzeichnen, wenn du in den Flughafen ankommst
surreal ermine
@compact slate Ich brauche es schon 🤷
compact slate
🤔
tacit briar
Vielleicht kommt das denn darauf, woher man kommt?
tacit briar
Ich weiß, aber vielleicht trotzdem
junior trail
hello there
tame forum
btw u will have to ask here question here again lol, not all people use "questions" channel
*ur question
@junior trail
plucky swan
@tacit briar lmao alright, thanks a lot! 😃
tame forum
i am not sure how many of you here might know about "TestAS" its an aptitude test (kind of like an IQ test) where they check your cognitive skills..... is this test really important, has anyone one of you, who might have applied in a university ever heard/needed it?
tight kelp
never heard of it, but i doubt it'd be needed for anything at least in the eu
i think you need it for the army/police/etc but they most likely have their own tests
you definitely don't need that for university
just like you don't need an iq test, and thank fuck for that since they're useless and random
tame forum
yah i checked one of the unis in germany that "asked" it but wasnt compulsory. their reason being to increase your chances of admission if ur non Eu
i chanced upon this on the DAADS website
afaik even canada has a similar thing, where my freinds gave a Euclids exam (really tough) in order to get a scholarship. i believe this is the german equivalent
compact slate
What's exactly DoSV Verfahren? Is it like an interview? Do you need to apply to it after you apply to the university in UniAssist?
When do I need to apply to it?
tame forum
whats the full form?
compact slate
?
agile fable
Are there any expats working in Germany here?
agile fable
Ah okay. Was hoping to hear from those outside of the EU. Need some advice about job hunting in Germany
tame forum
well you could still post it here, theres a good chance someone from the EU might know a thing or 2 about ur query
agile fable
Ah sure.
Well, I'm currently on a student visa taking the language course and I'm looking for media jobs in Germany, specifically in Bavaria because my partner lives there. Some folks have been a bit negative and said it's impossible as I'm not from the EU and media industry doesn't require anyone from outside of Germany/EU. So I'm worried that by the time my course ends, I won't be able to find a job here and unable to stay here with my partner.
Sorry if it was really hefty or unrelated to the chat/discord group. I just want to get it off my chest at the moment
warped atlas
@agile fable i‘m not from EU and by nationality, I am from a third world country.
Technically I guess, I‘m an expat (though perhaps the word immigrant would fit better) but I found the job as a technological consultant right now using a German degree (did my master‘s and got a C1 language cert at the same time)
Job-wise, from what I‘ve been hearing and seen so far, being fluent in at least B1+ can get you quite far in getting a job. Less than that, and many are quite reluctant to take you in, even in a job that doesn‘t require a German degree. (though not impossible)
I have no idea whether the media industry would have more jobs with your background though (we also have no idea what yours is...)
In Germany, the best way to get a job from the ground up, is most likely the Ausbildung route. Which you can ask pretty much every German I think. You can‘t ask me that I‘m afraid, since I don‘t know much...
Anyway if you‘d like to talk more about related stuff, you can DM me about it.
@compact slate gotta read the website on it more, but it seems to me it‘s more like a service to figure out where best to do your undergraduate based on the uni capacity, level of competence, etc. and you do an interview with them to match what the current „supply“ with your „demand“ is
compact slate
So it is an interview of sorts?
Did anyone go through one and can elaborate on the process?
compact slate
Well I asked in general :)
compact slate
I will check it out thanks
tame forum
as far as what i have read, its for courses that have more applicants than seats, like Medical, and nursing courses for example. and depends on university to university which course they put under Numerus Clausus.
tight kelp
Hey does anybody know if it's possible to check online what your Steuerklasse is?
exotic barn
Either check your Gehaltsabrechnung or phone your local Finanzamt http://gemfa.bzst.bund.de/gemfai.exe. Alternatively, you can use something like this: https://www.steuerklassen.com
tight kelp
the gehaltsabrechnung shows a different steuerklasse than the one we recently changed to, that's why i want to make sure :P
I want to see if it's perhaps a mistake on my husband's employer's or the finanzamt
exotic barn
I'd recommend phoning your Finanzamt then
tight kelp
yeah i'll phon their hair real good
slim fulcrum
I'm sick with a cold... Is cold medicine expensive in germany and which is the best one?
hidden briar
Rest a lot, "Mit Medikamenten dauert's eine Woche, ohne sieben Tage"
glad mesa
Im amazed how we sent people to the moon centuries ago but we still dont have any working medicine against a cold
foggy prism
not really that surprising imo. the moon is a very predictable thing. the cold is ever-changing
tame forum
what do you mean by "moon is a very predictable thing"?
foggy prism
well, it doesn’t suddenly jump to another place in the sky, does it?
we can compute exactly where it’ll be in 5 minutes (or 5 years)
or at least to a good enough accuracy to land a rocket
by the time a cure for some strain of the cold has been developed, it’s probably already evolved
and since there’s more than one strain, it can keep coming back even if you wipe out one strain
you’d have to kill it all at once
pretty much the only way I can see that happening is if you place everyone into isolation, which I think there’s a what-if about
I can’t find it though
solemn bay
That's a cool idea.
empty moon
Hey, guys, need help! We planned to go to Leipzig tomorrow and I didn't even know that that Umwelt zones are thing. It's better to find place for parking outside, right?
tame forum
but i think the virus can just float in the air right?? once we come out of isolation we jus end up catching it again?
tame forum
oh damn i thought they just float and get active once they enter the body again
nvr knew mf's died
foggy prism
okay, so, “Dr. Mackay said that this idea is actually somewhat reasonable, from a purely biological point of view. He said that rhinoviruses - and other RNA repsiratory viruses - are completely eliminated from the body by the immune system; they do not linger after infection. Furthermore, we don’t seem to pass any rhinovirusesback and forth with animals, which means there are no other species that can serve as reservoirs of our colds. If rhinoviruses don’t have enough humans to move between, they die out.”
then there’s an example given where we see this in action - some islands where there’d be an infection wave when foreigners came to trade, and then once it was passed, everyone was fine again cause the viruses dies with no new non-resistant hosts to go to
ah, but there’s an issue
this plan assumes everyone’s immune systems work properly
if there’s a person whose immune system can’t wipe out all the viruses, then they might survive in that person and upon breaking the quarantine spread again
tame forum
or you could make sure literally everyone on the planet gets the virus, that way everyone could get the resistance like the islanders and it wont get enough time to mutate
any antivax moms nightmare
foggy prism
I’d much rather walk around in a biohazard suit for a week or two
tame forum
for some reason in my mind isolation meant sitting in a white room.
worldly crystal
Hallo any German here who has a Job in Germany?
Please help me with my German Cover Letter.
[Please its urgent, The HR I have to submit is of a very elite company]
fleet pelican
what kind of help do you need
tight kelp
how to write a cover letter, presumably
I'm interested in the advice as well. I've done it before but since I haven't landed a job yet there's presumably still room for improvement 😅
solemn bay
Is there some Germany-specific stuff you want to know or just general advice?
dry nacelle
@empty moon well it depends on the car you have. but you cant enter parts of the city anyway without a euro emission norm sticker on your car
fiery edge
Hello. I have a couple of questions that maybe someone here has some insight on. I plan on asking some officials about it, but in due time. I'd just like to have an idea about it before then though. So here goes:
I currently hold a non-EU passport, and I have an Aufenthaltstitel for Germany, been here for 2 years. The Titel is only valid for about 3 more months now before I have to renew it. However, within these 3 months, it's likely that I may get a new passport from another country in the EU. Is it possible to extend my Aufenthalt on this new passport from the other EU country? Or is there a different kind of procedure for this? Any possible problems that could arise from this ?
tight kelp
once you have a EU passport you are free to live, move and work within the EU
so if you do get that EU passport, that'd be it, as far as I know. And I want to stress that I'm not an expert or anything, but the above is what is certain.
fiery edge
So I could just extend my Aufenthalt problemlos? Thanks
exotic barn
You don’t need an Aufenthalt if you have an EU passport
fiery edge
🤔
exotic barn
You just move and register at the city where you wanna live.
exotic barn
Gerne^^
tame forum
For real? I thought if you were in the europian union everything was fair game
fiery edge
@last ether Portuguese
deft mountain
umm... I have been given a (German) phone number (in Germany) in the following format:
XXXX/XXX XXX X-X
and I'm kinda confused how to dial it
could anyone help?
whole pecan
just key in the numbers i think
deft mountain
I mean just dialing without / and - does not work
deft mountain
🤔
tight kelp
are you using a german phone?
if not you might need to prepend the national prefix +49 or 0049
never seen the slash in a phone number honestly 🤔
hidden briar
slash is to divide the city code from the rest of the number, dash is for extensions, enter neither when dialing
novel lion
Explain that to me too please
surreal ermine
HALLO!
ich brauche eure Hilfe! Bitte :)
Ich suche ein paar Deutsche Lieder, sehr einfache, kurze Lieder. Vielleicht im Kanon singbar oder so. Sowas wie "Heyo, Spann den Wagen an" oder wie das heißt.
Wenn ihr eine Idee habt bitte @surreal ermine danke :)
faint plaza
https://youtu.be/OOYspFQRLl8 @surreal ermine
fleet pelican
https://youtu.be/ZTjyRu88PRE @surreal ermine
fleet pelican
was denn
faint plaza
Sehr böse
fleet pelican
es ist einfach ein gutes lied!
faint plaza
Ne eben nich
fleet pelican
du eben nich 😒
sand cosmos
OMG Hecke... there was no warning!
whole pecan
@surreal ermine dschinghis khan
surreal ermine
Danke für die Ideen
fiery edge
Yesterday DHL tried to deliver a package to me, but I wasn't at home. They left the usual yellow card with the address of the DHL branch where I can pick up the package from. However, this section is new to me. Does this mean that I have to pay this amount when picking up my package? I know I can always go there and find out but I can't until Monday lol
glad vine
yeah, customs fees, you'll have to pay the 11,08 to get your package
regal latch
xd
tame forum
Man this will be sad as hell if the cost of the product itself is something like 15 euros.
glad vine
it was probably around 27 euros if the 5,08 eur is Einfuhrumsatzsteuer
fiery edge
So is that just for international packages or for ones sent locally as well?
glad vine
international, from outside of the EU
fiery edge
Thanks for the info
I was wondering why the guy just didn't leave it at the spot he usually does
Customs fees 
glad vine
Yeah, you're more or less paying Mehrwertsteuer (VAT) for goods imported from outside of the EU. And then an additional 6 EUR to DHL for them to collect the money
fiery edge
😔
barren cipher
It's all about money
foggy prism
heh I get the opposite when I buy stuff from germany
germany has a higher VAT, so I get money back
hardy wren
lol
foggy prism
and then there was that one time I ordered stuff from america (a fancy rubik’s cube + lubrication) and they didn’t include a receipt
so it got stuck at customs caue they didn’t know if I had to pay import taxes…
hardy wren
rip
foggy prism
had to print the receipt from the website and send it to customs, and pay some more stuff because Bearbeitungsgebühren
hardy wren
lol
foggy prism
I don’t buy from that site anymore
foggy prism
das ist wohl das deutscheste Wort
faint plaza
Aber echt
exotic barn
how to study in germany ? guys pls help
tame forum
depends what u wanna study
exotic barn
economie
tame forum
i mean bachelor / masters
exotic barn
oh masters
tame forum
sry i wasnt clear
exotic barn
my bad its fine
tame forum
well then head onto the daad website, and search for masters programms, for masters thereare tons of engliish courses
another helpful website is hochschule kompass
exotic barn
i did and i found alot
tame forum
well then?
exotic barn
but they said that they will give you just a certificate to come and do some test
and you probebly not past it
cuz its on deutsch
and i need 9000 euro
tame forum
which certificate are you talking about?
tame forum
you mean the University wants to test you ? and if you pass the test only then you get the admission?
exotic barn
yes
tame forum
ii think thats soemthing that depends from university to university. did all Unis need an entrance test?
tame forum
ohh. yah i think you are talking about the uni which is really famous for economics....... obviously they will have an entrance test........ as far as i remember, the programme is so popular that it has a restriction.
that u need to pass the test
tame forum
no idea. helpful tip: if the programm has "NC" written anywhere, that means u will have to give a test.
exotic barn
what if i cant afoored the 9000euro
tame forum
NC= numerus clausus or something......... basically they mean the programm is really popular and you need to sometimes pass a test or register through another website
which handles all courses in germany which fall under numerus clauses
exotic barn
sorry to ask you againe is that mean if the cours dosnt have the NC
i will just need the acception
and i will have no test to past ?
tame forum
if the course falls under "No restrictions" then u can directly apply
exotic barn
then if i got acception i will just entire it ?
tame forum
yep
exotic barn
even if i got just B1 in deutsch
tame forum
if the course is in english, then german requirements dont matter.
exotic barn
and if its on german ?
tame forum
then C1 or C2
exotic barn
i see
and if you wanna study by german i guess you need to study for one yeard
the Shd
you need 9k euro as savings if youre from outside of eu, no exception
or something right
tame forum
yah^^
exotic barn
so if i dont have it i cant study in german ? @exotic barn
tame forum
from which country are you from.
tame forum
damn, if u were from an african country u could have got a stipend from daad
exotic barn
its in africa
tame forum
stupid me
exotic barn
hhhhhh
tame forum
well then check the daad scolarships or something then....... i remember a list where there were tons of african countries mentioned
whose citizens were eligible for a stipend
exotic barn
if i got a daad scholership then i dont need the 9000 euro ?
tame forum
not really sure about that, but if i had to guess...... No then u wont need....... i dont think that daad thinks that someone from africa applying for a stipend can pay 9000 euros for accomodation
tame forum
yeah
exotic barn
gut
tame forum
120 full days
exotic barn
even if my deutsch isnt that good
exotic barn
oh in wich city ?
tame forum
well if theres a uni in frankfurt that accepts B2, which is the max that i can achieve before deadlines.... tell me
exotic barn
thier is a lot
@tame forum münchen und karlsruhe akzeptieren B2 auch. Und OTH Regensburg DSD B2
tame forum
ja, aber München ist mir zu teuer, ich glaube...... und ja ich weiß OTH Regensburg..... es sieht gut aus.
es gibt vier Uni in Bavaria, die B2 akzeptieren wird.
tame forum
weißt du etwas über deggendorf?
exotic barn
what about frankfurt is it expensive too ?
tame forum
ich kann keine Information über Deggendorf "living expenses" finden. ich habe auch numbeo gesucht
exotic barn
@exotic barn Its not as expensive as Munich for example, but yeah
It also depends on the district where you live
tame forum
how many districts are there normally in a Bundestag?
exotic barn
Bundestag?
tame forum
as in a state
exotic barn
Ah
tame forum
sorry i thought that was the word for a state
exotic barn
Well every state has his own Cities, Villages etc
But there are different districts in each city
Berlin for example
azure nebula
Yo is the Zug in Deustchland the easiest way to move around in the city berlin? i have a hausafgaben dass ich machen müsste lol. And how much does a normal / ok hotel cost in Berlin? Also any known places to hang out and any Touristatractionen things in Berlin?
foggy prism
Bundestag is like, the german parliament building thingy
exotic barn
@tame forum
foggy prism
you thought of Bundesland
(note I have no clue about what it is exactly)
(but it’s a building in, probably, Berlin)
exotic barn
Er wollte Bundesländer sagen
azure nebula
^^^^
exotic barn
@azure nebula Im from Berlin
@azure nebula What exactly do u like/wanna do?
Anything special?
And the fastest way to travel around in Berlin will be Subway, Bus and Bicycle
tame forum
woah had no idea about the districts thing..... do the costs vary a lot from district to district?
azure nebula
nice. I have a homework to do. I need to write a blog about a trip to Germany where i at least need to go to a resturant and write a lil about my further plans
exotic barn
@tame forum Yeah, it does.
tame forum
wirklich??
faint plaza
ja
exotic barn
@tame forum Yeah 😛
tame forum
well, do you know the Deggendorf hochschule??
azure nebula
but any known places in Germany
tame forum
aw, no problem..... good to know the place is cheap
exotic barn
@azure nebula I can send you a list of Attractions
azure nebula
And the go-to travel source can be the subway and bus?
exotic barn
That would be the fastest way as a tourist
U can also use a Taxi, but it does cost more
tame forum
yah well there are 3 unis.... each in ingolstadt, deggendorf and Anberg...
faint plaza
ingolstadt is
tame forum
had no idea about the costs until today
tame forum
yah thats expensive ikk
azure nebula
Well the top 3 most know places in Berlin are? and how much does does a ok hotel cost in Berlin?
tame forum
yah..... as for TUM, i think the the accodomation , if u get in the "uni bldg" is around 300 euros or something
but if u cant get those ur donee
azure nebula
Just the top 3
azure nebula
lol ok
exotic barn
@azure nebula It depends how many stars the hotel has
tame forum
damn thanks Dextrumi...
azure nebula
WEll what about a 3 star. Lets say i am a student. as a student trip i guess
faint plaza
you are welcome
tame forum
didnt realise might find someone from bavaria here
exotic barn
@azure nebula Brandenburger Tor, Siegessäule and Reichstaggebäude would be the too 3
faint plaza
well i am born in munich and know a lil about bavaria haha
azure nebula
I am suprised you didnt say berliner mauer, that other turn in the middle
tame forum
well any unis that u might wanna recommend?
azure nebula
well yes
exotic barn
It really depends on the hotel. Can be from 50 to 80
azure nebula
i really dont have much time coz i have like 3 test and shit loads of other things lol
exotic barn
per night
azure nebula
ok so lets just say 60. Any hotel names?
exotic barn
wait
tame forum
trivago
azure nebula
Well can you just name a hotel in the price range you mentioned
thanks for helping me btw.
exotic barn
@tame forum there are a few more natives from bavaria and im living there too rn
faint plaza
depends on what you gonna study
tame forum
woah fr? i thought u were in czech republic or croatia or something.... i have no idea where i got that in my head from.....
exotic barn
from czechia, living in bavaria rn
tame forum
u there for studies too?
tame forum
same. but why move so early to germany? to experience the culture?
exotic barn
Learning the lang
tame forum
ohh sehr schönn
exotic barn
But mainly moving away from home
tame forum
after staying with my parents and sis for around 5 months now..... i actually miss them when they leave the house lol
which i never experienced until i was going to school..... so idm staying at home for now
Good luch to you thoo
*luck
tame forum
btw what is czeichia?
exotic barn
Czech Republic
exotic barn
Feel free to ask if you have any questions about Regensburg, see ya 👋
tame forum
bbyee
silver vale
hallo deutsche Völker. Ich habe eine Frage über Masterstudium im Deutschland. Wenn man im Deutschland eine Masterstudium macht, ist es eine Erwartung oder Möglichkeit, gleichzeitig zu studieren und arbeiten (berufen?), oder ist das nicht möglich oder sehr schwer. I hope I said that right
hidden briar
wenn finanziell möglich, vermeiden (außer studiennahe Arbeit am Institut), Studieren ist in Deutschland ein 3/4 Job.
exotic barn
Werklich?
humble bough
@silver vale this depends on what master's degree you're doing; it's extraordinarily common with mine. Depending what sort of residence permit/visa you have and where you're from, you could have limits on how much you can work. Feel free to @-mention me if you want more details and I can find the info they gave out when I started my master's
vital glade
Ich habe eine Frage für jemanden der sich gut mit den zulassungsvoraussetzungen und NC der deutschen unis auskennt..
I can of course just wait and find out but I dont see info on this online. For German Uni i know there is an NC and based on ones grades they are accepted. Now my high school grades I barely even count- I had a GED. But I've already studied 2,5 years at American uni and have a perfect 4,0- so perfect 1,0 in Germany. Will they be looking at this grade on my uni app or the high school one?
In short: do German unis care about high school grades if I've already studied at uni, without degree
warped atlas
@silver vale normalerweise von der Ausländerbehörde bekommen ausländische Studenten im Zusatzblatt eine bestimmte Stundenzahl, also, 120 Tage/240 Halbtage im Nebenjob zu arbeiten.
Es kommt danach darauf an, in welcher Firma man arbeitet. Soweit ich weiß, die Firmen beschäftigen die Werkstudenten 20 Stunden/Monat für die Firma zu arbeiten. Es ist aber normalerweise 35/40 Stunden pro Woche in dem Semesterferien (Ich war auch Masterstudent an einer Hochschule)
@vital glade leider kenn ich damit nicht so gut aus. Aber hast du schon mit der Amerikanischen-Deutschen Botschaft darüber gefragt? Oder die Uni selbst? (Vielleicht gibt es Uni-Assist oder International Office für ausländische Studenten)
Soweit ich weiß, solange man sein Uni Credits in Deutschland für den Studiengang akkreditieren kann, kannst du einfach weitermachen.
tame forum
why is TU Wien so famous on this server? it has always eluded me that it also gets its own emoji
glass trench
@sick imp explain
sick imp
Because it's cool and everyone loves it.
dry nacelle
Hauptuni Wien ftw tho
sick imp
HaupTUni. 😎
fleet pelican
you wish
sick imp
It's simple though. TU Wien pays me 1200€/semester and I give them the emoji. When other unis offer money for emoji, they'll get them too.
/r/technicallythetruth
fleet pelican
its march
dry nacelle
correct
fleet pelican
dry nacelle
sick imp
Fren is so good at using the calendar, you go fren never doubted you.
fleet pelican
sorry I'm not that clever
dry nacelle
aw dang
fleet pelican
its like asking einstein for the meaning of life
sick imp
It's easy I'll teach you.
fleet pelican
he's a clever fuck, but could he give you an answer?
sick imp
Probably not. He's dead.
fleet pelican
I was waiting to make that joke REEEEE 
dry nacelle
maybe try again with stephen hawking
fleet pelican
he's also dead 
dry nacelle
eh now you gave it away 
faint plaza
Maybe that helps some people
tight kelp
nice
tame forum
I think even india has this..
faint plaza
Yeah and I think it is beautiful that India has that too @tame forum
tame forum
Ik😍
fiery edge
@tame forum off-topic but do you happen to know what their hotline is? Couldn't find it on Google
exotic barn
I have a question : What should we have to live and finish our studies in Germany ?
warped atlas
I‘m gonna guess you mean „...live after we finish our studies...“ @exotic barn
As an Ausländer, you need a job, then get an Aufenthaltsgenehmigung. A Blue Card to be more precise, if you‘re in Engineering.
I‘ve heard of people who married a German so they‘d be able to stay.
And yes, money. You can‘t live without money here...
compact slate
Is there a place you can? 🤔
warped atlas
Hotel Mama
exotic barn
@warped atlas I wanted to be doctor
cobalt marsh
I have a question: i wish to do bachelors in Germany in computers or engineering like app development and i wanted to ask if the universities have bachelors in English cus everyone keeps telling me they don't and i wanna know which University is the best for this and what grades do i need in my A levels
And what is the monthly cost if i go to a uni with no tuition fee like can someone tell me the average monthly cost
pale saddle
that really depends on the city
cobalt marsh
So let's say we are talking about Technische Universität München •München
exotic barn
red current
TUM undergrad you need to be C1 fluent in German. TUM grad school is in English
noble bone
@cobalt marsh https://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/en/result/?q=°ree[]=1&lang[]=2&fos=&crossFac=&cert=&admReq=&scholarshipLC=&scholarshipSC=&langDeAvailable=&langEnAvailable=&lvlEn[]=&cit[]=&tyi[]=&ins[]=&fee=&bgn[]=&dur[]=&sort=4&subjects[]=&limit=10&offset=&display=list try this link, it's already automatically filtered to degrees that are offered in English-only (I myself plan on studying the IPSP degree offered in Leipzig this year, they will teach you German as part of their curriculum in the first year)
tame forum
Btw TUM you need B2. @hodgegepodge
cobalt marsh
Thanks everyone for help :)
tame forum
TUM courses for technical subjects is "Unrestricted admission" on paper i think that means anyone can apply to the uni. Although most people drop out after the second and first semester so i guess thats why. @cobalt marsh
And TUM isnt THE best.... Its one of the best..... But then the definition of best for everyone is different, determined by what one wants to study, the city in which the uni is etc etc.
noble bone
^
hidden briar
thats true for most of the popular subjects at universities, there is a lot of filtering in the first year.
noble bone
If I‘m not mistaken, German universities are generally held to virtually the same standard, so don‘t concern yourself with what‘s more prestigious and what not. Go for the unis where you think your degree of choice is more focused on / offered „best“, and you also have the location of your uni to consider like Sufficient said.
as for English-only bachelor’s courses you are actually quite limited, you may want to browse the thing I linked earlier from the DAAD website
but all seem to be unrestricted
tame forum
Also keep in mind theres a difference between Unis and Hochschules......former more theoretical, latter more practical based
And also the former can give phds
warped atlas
@cobalt marsh one of my friends are doing (but I think she‘s done) Masters in Information Tech (or CS, not sure) at TUM, and she came in with only A1.
She told me that about half of the subjects are in German, and she has to learn the language on the side.
I‘m not sure what her level of German was at, but autumn of last year, it didn‘t sound so good yet. Probably A2+ and that ain‘t enough.
She did all the English subjects first, then the German ones in latter semesters.
She also told me that TUM WANTS to have more international students. Especially in that faculty.
warped atlas
I did Masters Informationstechnik at HS Mannheim, which was advertised as a course good for international students, but believe me, 95% of the subjects are in German, and although you can speak English to the professor and other students, they hold the lectures in German
Some other internationals
cobalt marsh
@noble bone thanks man I'll brows really appreciate the help
warped atlas
Start Bachelors as an international student
They still have to get B2 or C1 cert by the end of their studies
cobalt marsh
All I'm worried about is that do they have English in bachelors?
warped atlas
You have around 2 years to go theough all the english subjects
Then you HAVE to do the German ones
Kurzgesagt, nothing for the entire degree. Partly, yes, but not fully
You have a higher chance in the Netherlands probably
To find the subject and school
noble bone
@cobalt marsh the degree I'm planning to take is International Physics Studies Program (Bachelors) in Leipzig. You don't need any level of German to begin with when enrolling in that degree for example, only English certification (through IELTS or showing proof of 500 hours of English in secondary school). However, they will teach you German in your first year of classes. Like Rain said, by the end of your degree (or after that initial year) you are expected to have a command of German already, and it's highly possible that the remaining subjects will be taught in German as mentioned. But since it's part of their curriculum, you have no other choice but to learn anyway (and you really should to begin with). I do not know how it is with other institutions however, but it's most likely the same.
As far as I know, when it comes to engineering or computers-related courses for Bachelors (the ones you want), you have very limited options. From what I've seen on the DAAD website, most of the institutions that offer it are Hochschules (as Suffi said yesterday, more practical-based education with focus on certain fields. They offer both Bachelors and Masters degrees too). If you're fine with that then you should definitely give those a look.
cobalt marsh
@noble bone ok can you explain what hochschules is and i am learning A1 A2 because in my country they say you gotta have that for visa and my English level is good like i got A in my igcse all i wanna know now is the monthly cost on average and please if you can elaborate what hochschules is thanks :)
noble bone
Hochschules aren't exactly like Universities, but they're on the same level of higher education. Pretty much, it means they cannot give you doctorates (which doesn't concern you anyway). Like I said, they are able to hand out Bachelors degrees (which you need) and Masters. Hochschules tend to be more oriented to specific fields/areas (like computers, engineering, etc.).
What's good is that a lot of these Hochschules offer degrees in English only, which would suit you. A1-A2 level wouldn't cut it in most universities in Germany, as majority of their courses require B1-B2 if I'm not mistaken.
Monthly cost of expenses on average differs for each city/town, so I can't really answer you right now unless you have chosen places / institutions you want to attend. @cobalt marsh
That's unfortunate for you though, from what I've seen here in my country they don't seem to require a certain level of German for the VISA, but they just want to have a look at it regardless. These language requirements are more important from the university/ies of choice instead.
cobalt marsh
@noble bone alright so can you link me a website which has more info about hochschules because if i want to go into app development and stuff that's better for me right? And what about the tuition fee for hochschules? Or they are free too
noble bone
They are free too, if they're outside of Baden-Württemberg (for non-EU students).
Only semester fees.
Treat them like you would any other university.
cobalt marsh
Oh right right
noble bone
Wait let me give you an example
cobalt marsh
:)
noble bone
An example of an English-only Bachelors degree
Application deadlines vary per university/hochschule
maybe this is more apt for you, TH Köln (University of Applied Sciences)
There's more options in the website I linked you earlier, do check those out if you want to know more.
cobalt marsh
@noble bone ok so let's say if i go to koln uni what will be the monthly cost cus my parents are most concerned about that
noble bone
@cobalt marsh I have no idea honestly, you might want to look it up later. Try to assume you'd at least need 800 euros monthly (this could be much lower, or slightly higher).
The uni's website usually has some information about the average expenses in their city, and there are many blogs to read about as well. Google is your friend.
cobalt marsh
@noble bone ok I'll do more research but thank you very much for the help like honestly i appreciate it this helped me alot
noble bone
@cobalt marsh You're welcome, mate. Wish you luck!
cobalt marsh
Thanks :)
warped atlas
@cobalt marsh @noble bone both BW and NRW has the internationale Studenten Gebühr, so better avoid those two Bundesländer if you don‘t want to shell out an extra €1500 for the semester
tame forum
Damn...NRW is "said to follow suit" but hasnt pasesed the law yet...didnt know this.😟
noble bone
😟 Do you guys know which states might follow through with this next?
tame forum
Nah BW has already done it.... And NRW no date given when they r gonna go through.
And none of the other states names have been given
exotic barn
here's an interesting chart for it https://www.studis-online.de/StudInfo/Gebuehren/
tame forum
Basically depends on the next elections in each of the states
winter niche
@exotic barn I wouldnt trust Studis-online. A friend of mine applied for Somersemester to Unis based on information from this website and like half of applications were rejected, just because there were no SS this year there at all.
exotic barn
Sure, that's always something you need to consider. They usually provide a date of when it was published and sources, if they have any and in this case it's only about how tuition fees for foreigners may change in the future. If you're applying to specific unis, you should generally pull information from their respective sites directly
tame forum
yah i think for application dates, daad is way more reliable
or yah the unis website itself
exotic barn
@young grove Try not to insult others in Russian next time
And keep this channel on-topic
slim fulcrum
Are there any visible minorities living in Germany here? I moved here half a year ago now, and it's starting to wear on me. I'll just be on my bike at night and people yell ching chong ching at me. What could I yell back? ,,Fick dich" doesnt really quell my anger
solemn bay
I think they meant, if any minorities are in this server, who live in Germany.
tight kelp
Wtf. Where do you live? I've never experienced or seen anything like that in my area
I'm not Asian but I know some who live in the region, and in my city there's a lot of immigrants from all over
slim fulcrum
@tight kelp in Bremen. It's otherwise very liberal and progressive
@faint plaza have you ever just been yelled at for your appearance? Or bullied in some way? I don't know about you, but getting that once a month or more can wear down on you. I get so frustrated because I want to say something to put them in their place, but I can't, because I don't want to be some random minority who doesn't speak German 😞 I just feel powerless. I just feel like I want to defend myself. Not ignore it and not speak about it.
faint plaza
I am not a minority in that hindsight.
But I got yelled at as a faggot with my recent bf and past ones. Even got called a Nazi cause I had a bald head.
I know what you mean.
You could raise your voice and tell them that it isn't okay at all. For my part I ignore it completely
slim fulcrum
See that's not right to be hassled for being a normal human being
Im Just Not the type of person to let those things slide.
faint plaza
Normally me too.
But I got used to it and I don't wanna waste my time on stuff like that
exotic barn
A minority here. Never had anything like that happen to me in Germany but holding a grudge will only wear you down imo.
faint plaza
It just isn't worth for me at all
If they mean to call me a faggot cause I am gay, okay do it. I just gonna ignore you or if I have a really bad day in gonna snap back
tight kelp
I feel some level of shame hearing this, even though I'm not German
slim fulcrum
If it makes you feel better it's often not ethnically white Germans saying things like that to me
faint plaza
Tbh it isn't that common at all in Germany anymore
slim fulcrum
Turkish or middle eastern mostly, but I got some German guys who come up to me and hit me with a "konnichiwa"
faint plaza
Back in 2002 it was totally normal sadly
Ahh the turks
Mhm
I always have problems with them
slim fulcrum
I mean idk if they're turkish
tight kelp
Who then? Here there's a lot of Syrians and Turks, plus Germans who are heritage Turks, but I've never experienced anything like that, they're usually nice people
slim fulcrum
But Turks make up a huge minority here.
faint plaza
Serki dann hast du bisher Glück gehabt
Ich werde nicht mehr so oft als schwuchtel und co beleidigt aber wenn dann meistens von Türken.
tight kelp
My perspective is that of a Mediterranean man married to another Mediterranean man
You'd think I'd have at least gotten looks for that but no
faint plaza
Wo lebst du wenn ich fragen darf?
tight kelp
Dortmund
faint plaza
Also in München passiert mir des öfter das ich blicke mit meinem Freund bekommen
Und halt seltener Beleidigungen
Aber trotzdem
slim fulcrum
Mmm, I haven't heard nice things about Bavarians in that regard
tight kelp
And by the way I'm in no way denying your experiences if that's the impression I'm giving ^^
slim fulcrum
That's not what I got dw @tight kelp
faint plaza
Pretty close minded on that topic
But only the older people
The younger ones are really nice about it
tight kelp
And to think I'm so happy to feel welcomed here
slim fulcrum
Im mostly welcomed here! It's not that bad.
tight kelp
Where I come from, gay people are subject to jokes and stuff, at the very least
slim fulcrum
No one has ever been rude to me in a store or anything
faint plaza
So ember don’t think about to much because of that one thing
It can happen
Just shrug it off
And you Are good to go
tight kelp
But by the way this is not the first time I hear of this sort of episode in Bremen, so it might somehow be a problem specific of there? I'd normally not expect that sort of stuff in the north. No offence to other parts of Germany, it might just be my prejudice
faint plaza
Tbh I would rather expect it in Bavaria than in Bremen. But Bremen is known for the young people with other backgrounds to be kinda close minded
Imo.
But don’t take me to 100% real cause I never was in Bremen and only heard it from people
slim fulcrum
Bremen feels like very liberal city with stickers everywhere on the streets with slogans like "liberté, égalité, Fuck fdé" and cafes with sighs on the outside "if you're racist, homophobic, or hateful don't come in"
faint plaza
Like I said every are some people that tend to do stuff like that.
slim fulcrum
Nah in just saying Bremen feels like the opposite of what your friends are telling you @tight kelp. But perhaps I don't understand everything I hear on the streets.
winter niche
I lived in little town in Thüringen for a year and from what I can tell, this is where u can meet real far rights on the streets, not just dumb closeminded people schouting smth, but also ideology based. They are still a minority, but u feel their presence.
olive summit
Hey all. I'll be studying abroad in northern Germany in August and I was planning on getting a cheap reliable car while I'm there. Can anyone give some advice on this.
I'll be traveling back and forth between the Hamburg area and the Netherlands fairly often so it seems like a better option than the train.
I currently work in the automotive industry so I'm no stranger to cars but I imagine it's considerably different in Germany.
exotic barn
my area is good in history and geography thinking of reading uni in germany and europe. how are possibilities?
lunar garden
@winter niche me too, I remember hearing news of right wing people carrying flags in Ilmenau(also thüringen) at the street 😦
cursive frost
Anyone know about moving to Germany for non eu citizens
I read that I need a working contract or get a contract through the embassy
Money to cover 6 months of my stay or something? not sure bout this
An address of living? not sure how this works
And some certificate for the language i think
fleet pelican
@cursive frost I can give you a brief rundown that somebody, if they wish to, can expand on later if theres more details or I've made a mistake.
What you need to provide depends on your situation. i.e. if you're a student/working
if you're working, for the money you can simply provide an employment contract as your evidence of financial support, if you're student, a student loan or maybe even a statement from your bank with sufficient savings. This doesn't have to be earned by you and could come from anywhere i.e. parents but it does have to be an account in your name.
I also believe you don't need german knowledge to move to germany, only if you would like unrestricted residency you have to prove a sufficient level, and there would likely be an asked for level too once you're going to work/school.
idk about contacts through embassies but you do need a valid reason to stay in germany for so long
faint plaza
I can give a rundown later when I am home for you @cursive frost
cursive frost
Interesting 🤔 thanks and sure @faint plaza
I would be looking for work, saw alot of jobs who have paid relocation and visa sponsor
faint plaza
@cursive frost
So the question is if you are a EU Citizen or not.
Als freizügigkeitsberechtigter Bürger der Europäischen Union (auch Unionsbürger genannt) haben Sie uneingeschränkten Zugang zum deutschen Arbeitsmarkt. Sie und Ihre Familienangehörigen benötigen weder für die Einreise noch für die Beschäftigung in Deutschland ein Visum oder eine Aufenthaltserlaubnis (§ 2 FreizügG/EU).
Unbeschränkt freizügigkeitsberechtigten EU-Bürgern gleichgestellt sind Staatsangehörige des Europäischen Wirtschaftsraums (EWR: das sind die Mitgliedstaaten der EU sowie Island, Liechtenstein und Norwegen) (§ 12 FreizügG/EU) und ihre Familienangehörigen.
Für die Einreise ist lediglich ein gültiger Pass oder Personalausweis notwendig (§ 2 Abs. 5 FreizügG). Nach Ihrer Einreise müssen Sie (wie auch deutsche Staatsbürger) innerhalb von drei Monaten Ihren Wohnsitz beim Einwohnermeldeamt der Stadt, in der Sie leben, anmelden.
Eine Ausnahme betrifft Familienangehörige von EU- und EWR-Bürgern, die selbst weder Unions-, EWR-Bürger oder Schweizer sind: sie bedürfen für die Einreise nach Deutschland eines Visums nach den Bestimmungen für Ausländer, für die das Aufenthaltsgesetz gilt. Sie erhalten dann in Deutschland von der Ausländerbehörde eine so genannte Aufenthaltskarte (§ 2 Abs. 4 S. 2 FreizügG).
Staatsangehörige der Schweiz und ihre Familienangehörigen genießen ebenfalls Freizügigkeit innerhalb der EU, müssen aber eine spezielle rein deklaratorische Aufenthaltserlaubnis-Schweiz beantragen (§ 28 AufenthV).
Welche Ausländerbehörde zuständig ist, richtet sich nach Ihrem zukünftigen Aufenthaltsort im Bundesgebiet.
and if you are not from the eu than this applys:
Wenn Sie Bürger eines sogenannten Drittstaats sind, das heißt weder Staatsangehöriger eines Mitgliedstaates der Europäischen Union noch des Europäischen Wirtschaftsraumes oder der Schweiz sind und dauerhaft in Deutschland bleiben möchten, benötigen Sie dazu eine Erlaubnis, den sogenannten Aufenthaltstitel (s.Broschüre „Bildung und Beruf“, Seite 7f).
Wenn Sie in Deutschland arbeiten möchten, benötigen Sie einen Aufenthaltstitel, der das Arbeiten gestattet, d.h. einen Aufenthaltstitel zum Zweck der Erwerbstätigkeit (diese Titel sind aufgelistet in den §§ 18-21 Aufenthaltsgesetz (AufenthG). Besondere Hinweise zu den Regeln der Einreise nach Deutschland, wenn Sie sich noch im Ausland aufhalten oder zu den notwendigen Schritten, falls Sie sich bereits in Deutschland befinden, können Sie der Informationsbox in der rechten Spalte entnehmen. Um einen Aufenthaltstitel zu erhalten, müssen Sie zunächst allgemeine Voraussetzungen erfüllen. Das heißt unter anderem, Sie müssen einen Pass besitzen, Ihr Lebensunterhalt während des Aufenthaltes muss gesichert sein und es darf kein Ausweisungsgrund vorliegen. Der Zweck des von Ihnen beabsichtigten Aufenthaltes und Ihre Ausbildung beziehungsweise Ihre fachlichen Qualifikationen bestimmen, welcher Aufenthaltstitel für Sie konkret in Frage kommt.
mighty gale
Would you mind just repeating the really important parts in English? i also really need that information but don't understand 90% of it due to being like A2 at best...
mighty gale
Deepl?
solemn bay
exotic barn
hallo! hat jemand hier eine VPD bei uni assist schon beantragt? wenn ja, gibts etwas zu beachten? ich suche rat XD
Deadlines - musst die Unterlagen 2 Monate vorm Ende der Bewerbungsfrist schicken, denke ich
ja, das ist richtig. hast du es bereits getan?
Ne lol
beabsichtigst du, das noch zu tun?
Weiß noch nicht, kommt drauf an, ob es meine zukünftige uni, die ich aber noch nicht mal kenne, fordert
exotic barn
noch jemand zum thema VPD, uni assist oder bewerbung im allgemeinem? wäre nett etwas neues zu erfahren und fehler zu vermeiden XD
exotic barn
du kannst üblicherweise alle info zur bewerbung auf der seite deiner uni finden
tame forum
Nicht immer..... Manche Unis muss man selbst kontaktieren, wenn deine Schulzeugnisse nicht aus ein EU Land ist.
humble bough
I know this is off-topic but can we appreciate that DeepL translates "Ausländerbehörde" to "Aliens Department" because I fucking love that
feels very X Files
exotic barn
Huh?
humble bough
I'm talking about within the text posted yesterday
exotic barn
oh fair
humble bough
but also, since Milansu already said they aren't an EU citizen, I don't think the posted text from yesterday is particularly helpful as it doesn't describe the requirements for non-EU citizens beyond "you need an Aufenthaltstitel" and does not include the contents of any of the boxes or pages that non-EU citizens are referred to in that passage
@cursive frost if you want more information, let us know what country you're a citizen of (it matters for visas) and what the situation with you working/studying would be (do you have a job offer? do you want to attend a German uni? do you just want to work in Germany but have no set plans? what are your work qualifications?) because those will all affect the process for you
cursive frost
@humble bough I'm from Serbia, I am still a student but I'm finishing in summer, so I was thinking off getting a job as an Android Developer. I will have a bachelor's degree in CS. I don't have any job offers
humble bough
alright, well, since you're not from one of the countries who can enter Germany without a visa, you'll need some sort of visa allowing you to work before entering Germany. As long as your degree is recognized as equivalent to a German degree, you have the qualifications necessary to get an employment visa, but you would need a concrete job offer on the table to get one. There is a job seeker visa, but in order to be eligible you need at least 5 years of experience in your field and enough funds to cover your stay, which I figure isn't the case if you're just graduating.
so my advice would probably be to either start applying for jobs in Germany or consider doing a master's degree in Germany as a way into the country instead. Or to start work within your home country and wait until you have five years experience to move to Germany on a jobseeker's visa, if that's more agreeable to you.
cursive frost
@humble bough Well if I get a job offer (I've seen jobs that give visa sponsorship) then I don't need 5 years of experiecne right?
Also my college is accepted according to Anabin
humble bough
yeah, those are two different visas that require those
cursive frost
oh 🤔
humble bough
it's either/or, if you get a job offer afaik you'd be eligible for an employment visa
cursive frost
cool cool !
humble bough
the one that requires 5 years experience is a different visa that's an alternative for some people
cursive frost
You also have those jobs over embassy
Is that the blue card thing ?
You also think I should be applying now?
humble bough
to jobs? no idea; I don't have experience with the german job market and idk if they'd hire you before you have your degree
cursive frost
Yeah, that wouldn't make sense
humble bough
getting a blue card would happen once you're already in germany; afaik it's part of your residence permit, which you apply for once you're already in the country.
some people call residence permits visas in English, but they're different than the visa you'd need to get into the country in the first place (which is what I'm talking about above)
humble bough
yeah there's no end to the paperwork lol
but yeah afaik you need a job offer to really even start the process of getting an employment visa; once you've got that, you should probably get more information on what to do about residence permits once you're in germany
cursive frost
but like how much money u need saved up too
to self sustain for liek 6 months or ?
and u need an active address of living as well ?
so if I could get a bulgarian passport I should right 🤔
would make things much easier
@humble bough are u thinking of moving there too or are u already there?
humble bough
you definitely need an active address once you're in germany for the residence permit; I think how much money you need depends on the specific type of visa, and that'll probably depend on what job you manage to get
I already live in Germany, but I'm on a study visa
cursive frost
oh my god man
rocket science right here
thats rly good
happy for u
what city?
humble bough
Bulgaria is in the EU, so getting a Bulgarian passport would make it a LOT easier loll
I'm in Berlin! I study in Potsdam tho
humble bough
lol
in general it is I guess but I don't live in the most hipster-y neighborhood lol
tame forum
Btw u cant just get a blue card, ur salary has to be above a specific number to apply for it, othervise you can only get a normal work permit with an expiration date i think
fleet pelican
@sick imp @hard parcel wien folk who I love very much and I hope I dont disturb with my ping, do you know if tourist postcard places are open on sundays
i.e. in the first district
hard parcel
Hmm No clue, but usually shops are close on Sunday :/
fleet pelican
ya, its why I wasthinkin, 1st district usually stays busy even so, and tourists are a 24/7 business
slim fulcrum
These were so worth the 1 euro at 1 euro store
humble bough
not 100% sure if anyone here knows what to do but I'll ask:
I ordered something online, and it was shipped to me through DHL while I was on vacation. It was delivered to a nearby shop that's a pickup center, but since it arrived while I was on vacation and I didn't get back right away, when I went to pick it up the guy at the store said they didn't have it cause they only keep them there for one week. Does anybody know what DHL does with packages at this point? I really don't wanna be out the money for what I ordered, but I can't find info on their website that I understand to help me figure out what to do next...
sand cosmos
They will return it to the sender
exotic barn
This doesn’t affect if we get accepted to tu wien, right? Since it’s still keine Studienplatzbeschränkung. https://www.tuwien.ac.at/aktuelles/news_detail/article/126588/
exotic barn
It depends on what your field decides to do
But is it just to let the candidates know what they should expect from the course or does it affect who'll get accepted too?
I know that for CS it's the latter. I haven't had time to read the whole article though
i see, thanks oxi 😰
tame forum
F
exotic barn
I wanna get a Minijob in Germany as a waiter and need a Sozialversicherungsnummer. I'm insured in my home country tho (part of EU), can I still get a job or do I have to switch to a German insurance company?
shut gorge
Oh wait, they implemented the Eignungsverfahren? rip
slim fulcrum
@humble bough I had this happen and you just have to contact the seller and ask for another shipment because they probably returned to sender.
humble bough
greeeeeat
slim fulcrum
@humble bough I know. It's dumb. Can't even call DHL
humble bough
thanks for the help, I'll contact the seller I guess
slim fulcrum
The guys at DHL didn't see my name on my doorbell and didn't even try lmao
tight kelp
they always do that -.-
it happened at least twice to me even though my name is on the doorbell
faint plaza
Ich hatte noch nie Probleme mit dhl :p
fleet pelican
DHL has outright lied to me about me not being home
tight kelp
^
fleet pelican
'whoopsie boopsie we seem to have missed you'
faint plaza
They hate there job so they do that stuff
I mean
I can understand them
💁🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
tight kelp
well
I've done an even shittier job than them, I still didn't take it out on the customers
hard parcel
@exotic barn Uh for cs the Orientierungsphase is just one subject which you have to pass but it was really easy
I mean we also had the Studienzugangsbeschränkung but I think that's just for cs
tame forum
i think this is the first time i am seeing a CS course getting a admission restriction ....... or is CS really popular in germany too and they have admission restrictions?
faint plaza
Hella lot people study it Cause money 💰
But it is for the tu Wien tho so not Germany monkey
fleet pelican
@hard parcel there are multiple things each subject can choose to ask for however
They will publish them 'zur Zeit' but it's still a toss up as to what it would be
fickle shell
Gotta write a Motivationsbrief for my master studies. No idea how to make it properly despite all the internet guides and stuff. Is it ok to mention that i want to stay and work in Germany or they dont like that?
exotic barn
Well, they mostly wanna know what motivates you to do your masters at uni X
There's prolly a good way to incorporate that thought of yours
iron spindle
@fickle shell Stell es dir wie eine Bewerbung vor. Einleitung, Hauptteil, Schluss, etwa 700 Wörter. Bisherige Erfahrungen, gemeisterte akademische Herausforderungen, mit was du dich gerne beschäftigen willst und warum gerade dort wo du dich bewirbst (ein bisschen einschleimen wird erwartet). Denk daran den Text selbstbewusst zu formulieren.
molten hearth
700 Wörter🤢🤡
humble bough
in my experience master's motivations want you give reasons why you want to do that specific Master's degree, rather than (or in addition to) why you wanna do a master's degree in general
whole root
Hello, would anyone recommend good CS/Informatik universities, where language of instruction is English?
solemn bay
In all DACH or just a specific country?
whole root
Germany
foggy prism
also, bachelor’s or master’s
or “never bothered switching to that system”, which probably exists too tbh
tight kelp
i don't think there's many bachelors taught in english here in germany
hidden briar
at bachelor level 98% of courses are in german and those who aren't are mostly at expensive private universities
tame forum
I don't get this one thing tho.... How are there tons of English taught masters programms, but so less English Bachelors programmes. M not complaining or anything.... Jus cant seem to bend my mind around the reason .... I mean it is totally possible for them to teach bachelors in english if they can teach masters right?