archived-culture-study-visa

[exotic barn]

Y

Ye

Anyway it wouldn't make sense to go to a school without learning the language

or knowning how to speak it well

[viral geyser]

Yes, it would. I have a refugee in one of my classes, but the reason is to integrate her well.

[exotic barn]

ooo

Is she B1?

[viral geyser]

Maybe. She doesn't talk very much.

[exotic barn]

Ah

i just don't know how did my dad come to the conclusion i'd have to repeat grade 12 affirmatively

He didn't even send my papers for check to germany

[tight kelp]

you can think of Studienkolleg as a preparatory course for university in Germany. You learn language and cultural stuff, and those topics and skills that are considered a prerequisite to university studies in Germany

[exotic barn]

O

[tight kelp]

I don't remember how long it lasts nor do I know exactly how well it performs in terms of teaching you stuff (i.e. if it's worth your time)

but if your school-exit certificate is not recognised, it's mandatory to enter uni

[exotic barn]

uni or school?

[viral geyser]

Your school degree is needed to enter a university. School in Germany ends after 12 or 13 years (depending on the Bundesland).

[tight kelp]

(wow that's basically only up to elementary school by Italian standards)

[viral geyser]

School in Germany is quite shitty. Everything's crammed. I'd need 1.5 times as much hours as given to teach my pupils what I'd have to according to the curriculum.

[tight kelp]

I feel that sentiment is shared in most countries

[exotic barn]

@tight kelp do you have any idea how did my dad come to the conclusion that I have to repeat grade 12

He didn’t even send any school exit certificate to Germany of mine

[tight kelp]

Italy's education system is rather terrible, and it's also constant battleground for populistic politics so you can imagine in what state it lies

@exotic barn I don't know your dad :P

[exotic barn]

I mean there’s no other way to check unless you send your certificate to the regional gov right ?

[tight kelp]

in any case, "repeating x grade" is a very vague and possibly even meaningless statement when it comes to cross-country education. The German system in particular is quite unique and unlike any or most others, so comparisons in general or in particular are especially hard to make

the most direct option you have, to my knowledge, aside from sending your certificate to be evaluated for Anerkennung, would be to email a relevant office or any specific university you plan to attend in Germany to ask whether they would accept a certificate of your level. You could also try contacting a consulate or embassy for your country in Germany, preferably one in the specific bundesland/bundesländer where you plan to study

[exotic barn]

Ok thanks

Embassy is where I thought as wel cuz the international office of some friend in Germany told me I’d have to go check in the embassy

[tight kelp]

my knowledge is limited on this, but as you come from the middle east I think it's most likely that you'll need Studienkolleg. But you're still in a phase where the only and most effective step you can take is gathering information to know what your concrete options are

[exotic barn]

Thx

@exotic barn check out anabin

and no

you cant go to a German high school

you will go to a SK or you have to do a year at uni in your homeland

Ahh makes sense

I’m glad I won’t even go there

I can cope with SK Lol

But then are you sure about this ?

[exotic barn]

ye sure

@viral geyser what do you think about german education? I’m a bit scared that I’ll be behind at the uni compared to the germans cuz the education in gymnasien in germany is better

@exotic barn eh dont think its much better

like many of my classmates are stupid colombos actually

i see it in their faces during tragwerklehre

you won't be behind

really depends on people themselves

What’s Tragwerklehre?

You might just be too smort foxxie

i think its understandable from the word

Idk what’s Tragwerk

tragen

so basically about constructions

Oh

it's abour statics

im not smort suzu

Re: that bridge that collapsed in Italy

Foxxie but youre a smort hardworking bean

i just want you to know that youll do fine

Thank you foxxie 💜💜💜

if you feel like youre doing worse than most, dont be afraid to ask for help

most of your future classmates will be happy to help you

👌

That’s reassuring tbh

but im sure you wont

cause yiy start from like very basics

Do unis have classes?

generally ni

no

but in architecture yes

Unis have practice groups and tutor lessons

How come?

we work more in groups

basically every assignment we get is a group work

Wow

I hate group work

[viral geyser]

@exotic barn @exotic barn Do not confuse general education with universities and industrial training.

[exotic barn]

am i confusing?

Well, unis build on general education, dont they?

[viral geyser]

Tragwerklehre is nothing being taught in general education.

[exotic barn]

She's going to uni

She's just misusing classmates

i know, but if you were a stupid colomban in school, its hard to understand tragwerklehre

and suzu was asking if everyone here is super smart

so im like no, relax 👀

[viral geyser]

It sounded like a question about the general education 😄

(Where I was mentioned.)

[exotic barn]

yeah it is, and the answer is still about it

i was making an example with tragwerklehre

I’m worried about lacking basics (from high school) that i need for the uni

because its the only course i have that might be somewhat close to what suzu will have

[viral geyser]

Like stated, Tragwerklehre is not being taught.

It would be news to me at least

[exotic barn]

...

i never said its taught in school

wtf

[viral geyser]

Ooohhhh

Okay, now I got it

[exotic barn]

😁

[viral geyser]

https://www.schulentwicklung.nrw.de/lehrplaene/lehrplannavigator-s-ii/gymnasiale-oberstufe/index.html

[exotic barn]

you'll do better than fine, suzu

[viral geyser]

Here are the plans of what should be taught in North-Rhine Westphalia

[exotic barn]

adapt and improvise if something goes wrong 😄

@viral geyser thanks jeff!

@exotic barn thanks for your support foxxie ;-; 💜💜💜

[exotic barn]

@exotic barn you're really worrying too much :^(

[viral geyser]

You're almost becoming a German, @exotic barn.

Worrying too much and in the end everything's fine.

[exotic barn]

The germanization is working

[tight kelp]

til i've been german all along

[exotic barn]

Du wirst verdeutscht

[hidden briar]

eingedeutscht

[viral geyser]

On m'a dit que moi, je devenais français

[exotic barn]

what should my friend do now??

please welp

@silent pilot

[hidden briar]

call police

call insurance

[exotic barn]

should it be enough?

[silent pilot]

yes, both of those o.o

idk what else to do either

[exotic barn]

the shit it

is

[silent pilot]

if the car or anything was from work then call them too

[exotic barn]

it wasnt her car

[hidden briar]

if rental car call them too

[exotic barn]

it was rented

okay

[silent pilot]

ye

make as many pics as possible

[exotic barn]

thats so shit

wtf i cant believe its happening

What even happened

I.o

A car stole his laptop or Wut lol

And all his things ?

[tight kelp]

I'm guessing laptop and/or other valuables were visible from outside the car, someone noticed and broke the window to take them

[exotic barn]

Oh wow

I actually hide my laptop so this doesn’t happen in the car tbh

[tight kelp]

oh you mean a translation of what was said? They went back to their car and found it with the window broken, laptop and stuff gone

[exotic barn]

That’s unfortunate

[tight kelp]

yeah it seems like a pretty automatic precaution to take for me

nothing valuable should be visible from outside

[exotic barn]

the shit is

that she has hew whole life in that laptop

:C

[foggy prism]

Eine Frage, da’s ja scheinbar bereits Advent ist: Wie verbreitet sind Kerzen auf Christbäumen bei euch?

ist ja grundsätzlich etwa die dümmste Idee, die je jemand hatte, aber ich bin damit aufgewachsen

[hidden briar]

haben wir ein Jahr mal gemacht, davor und danach nur elektrisch

[foggy prism]

letztes Jahr war … nervositätserregend

weil junge Kätzchen

[tacit briar]

Ich habe nie Kerzen auf einem Weinachtsbaum gesehen (na ja, vielleicht auf den alten Fotos 😅 )

wäre viel zu gefährlich

[foggy prism]

wir haben ne Feuerdecke in der Nähe und nen kleinen Baum :P

[tacit briar]

ich beneide euch dann die Atmosphäre, freue mich aber zugleich, dass ich an meinem Baum die "Kerzen" länger als ein paar Stunden nutzen kann 😃

[hardy wren]

wir hatten immer kerzen auf dem baum

seit ein paar jahren haben wir einfach keinen baum mehr :p

[tacit briar]

Ich habe jedes Jahr denselben kleinen Baum :p

[hardy wren]

ich bau mir nen baum aus meinen geschenken :p

[foggy prism]

ich krieg aber fast keine Geschenke mehr

:(

[tacit briar]

Ich kriege keine Spielzeuge mehr 😦 wie traurig

[foggy prism]

mit 18 hab ich meine Fotoalben bekommen, danach kaum mehr was

ja, echte Fotoalben

mit echten Fotos

[tacit briar]

Sag aber nicht, aus einem Fotoapparat mit dem Film? ;P

[hardy wren]

ne, aus ner lochkamera

[tacit briar]

Meinst du, mithilfe der Camera Obscura gemalt?

[hardy wren]

genau

[exotic barn]

I have a w

Q

do you get the german passport if you study in german for a long time and live there ?

[tacit briar]

If you live here for 8 years, you may become a citizen and get a German passport. I don't know if there're other options to get it.

[exotic barn]

lmao no, spell

you gotta work for 8 years and pay taxes

Lolol

[tacit briar]

I don't think paying taxes is related. Indirectly sure, but AFAIK the law says only about the years of residence

Also I don't believe working is a precondition, if you live here. It may be a precondition to start living here though.

[exotic barn]

So do I have to work or just live

For 8 years

?

[tacit briar]

live

[exotic barn]

Gut

[tacit briar]

but to live here legally, you usually have to work

[exotic barn]

mhm tell me how you are gonna live 8 years in germany without a good reason

What

8 years means unbefristetes aufenthaltstitel

I’m just asking

Do you have to work and live

Or just live

[tacit briar]

if you're from outside of the EU, you need the official residence permit

I believe you have to work or sth to get it

[exotic barn]

Alright lol

So work 8 years shrug

[tacit briar]

Otherwise you're not allowed to live here, so you won't be able to live here for 8 years as well

[exotic barn]

i was talking to hauben, spell

so ye

work work work

sadly

[tacit briar]

did I say something wrong? Of course, you can also study or something, I don't know the details about that path

[exotic barn]

i mean, you said that you have to "just live"

but "just live" means to work and pay taxes apparently

[tacit briar]

yeah, but there're precondition to "live", I think I mentioned it

[exotic barn]

whatever mate

i dont think its important now x)

[tacit briar]

if you're from out of the EU, I think you need that Permit I mention, and I think they'll check if you work or study or whatever before issuing it

but that's interesting. Would studying for 8 years count as well? 🤔

[exotic barn]

depending on the visa/residence permit you are on I guess?

some doctoral students count as federal employee depending on their fundings

[crimson yew]

Hi everyone, I need a little bit help. I am waiting for my visa. But, I want to prepare myself for Germany that's way, I need some advices. I checked some websites like wg-gesucht and lieblingsmieter for accomodation. Have anyone an other advice for that? (I know that the visa stuff is not %100 possible)

However, I think that I will get the visa

[viral geyser]

So you're looking for a place to stay?

[crimson yew]

yes

it can be a flat share or a 1 room flat. But, I dont know much websites to search

[tight kelp]

it's a bit grey area but you can look on AirBnb, some places offer or even prefer long stays and in fact, that's how I started out before renting the actual place for longer term. But I'm a EU citizen so your mileage may vary

[viral geyser]

Try out immobilienscout

[tacit briar]

or immowelt.de

there're also companies specialized in temporary flats, like homecompany.de or hc24.de

[crimson yew]

ok. I will look at them thanks about advices.

[tacit briar]

Mitte Dezember bin ich einen Nachmittag/Abend in Berlin (Übernachtung auf der Reise), und würde gerne ein Weihnachtsmarkt besuchen. Es gibt aber mehr als ein, und ich weiß nicht, welches sollte ich wählen (ich glaube, ich habe Zeit nur für ein). Ich möchte etwas traditionelles, mit gemütlicher Atmosphäre besuchen. Könntet ihr etwas empfehlen?

[viral geyser]

Bin nicht aus Berlin, sry.

[exotic barn]

@hardy wren

[hardy wren]

@exotic barn

[exotic barn]

lol sebi

[hardy wren]

ich hab keine ahnung von berlin sry

[exotic barn]

read that above

wow

du luegner

[hardy wren]

es stimmt aber

über weihnachtsmärkte weiß ich nur, dass es am breitscheidplatz vor 2 jahren mal nen anschlag gab

den weihnachtsmarkt gibts dort aber immer noch

[exotic barn]

hast du nie einen Weihnachtsmarkt in Berlin besucht?

[hardy wren]

schon lange nicht mehr

[exotic barn]

wieso

[hardy wren]

warum sollte ich

[exotic barn]

hmmm

ich besuche die W.M. in Prag auch schon lange nicht mehr, doch weiß ich aber, wo es sie gibt

aber tja

[hardy wren]

am alex gibts meistens einen

[exotic barn]

ohhh, berliner slang :o

Alexander Platz

[hardy wren]

bitte, den alex kennt doch nun wirklich jeder

[tacit briar]

Ja, ich habe gesehen, es gibt einen am Alexanderplatz. Aber ich weiß nicht, was man da erwarten kann. Ich habe auch vieles gut über dem auf Gendarmenmarkt gelesen

[exotic barn]

ich hab das gerade das erste mal gehört

[hardy wren]

stimmt, da hör ich auch oft dass es da einen geben soll

und meist höre ich gutes

[exotic barn]

haben wir hier keinen Berliner außer Sebi?

In Berlin gibt es keine traditionelle Weihnachtsmärkte smK

[viral geyser]

Fahr nach Straßburg

Da gibt's einen.

[exotic barn]

^

[tacit briar]

@viral geyser Haha, das habe ich eigentlich auch vor 😄 Ein paar Tage früher

[viral geyser]

Na siehste?

[tacit briar]

Aber ich werde sowieso in Berlin später übernachten müssen. Also will auch da etwas besuchen

[exotic barn]

Besuche mal Potsdam

[hardy wren]

potsdam ist keine echte stadt, sondern eine touristenattraktion für berlintouristen

[exotic barn]

Und deshalb ist einen Besuch wert

potsdam hat aber eine uni?

[hardy wren]

nur eine attraktion, um das berliner umfeld besser aussehen zu lassen

[exotic barn]

🤔 wie ist eine uni eine attraktion?

[tight kelp]

für Nerds

[exotic barn]

mhm, es soll gar nicht so schlecht sein, in Potsdam zu leben und studieren

Ruhige Stadt bei Berlin

[knotty lava]

die potsdamer uni muss echt geil sein. hab bisher nur gutes gehört
@humble bough los, sag denen was sie verpassen!

[humble bough]

uh fuck what

oh uh yeah not even attempting german but potsdam has some fun parks and shit

when berlin got bombed to shit potsdam was still mostly fine so there's lots of cool old prussian stuff

yesterday I went on a tour of schloss cecilienhof where the potsdam conference was, that was cool...

[exotic barn]

^ tru storie

[humble bough]

on days when berlin's air is too smoggy potsdam is usually much nicer so if you need ventilation lol

or if you get too sick of the hipsters, there are slightly fewer hipsters

you actually hear people speak german in potsdam

(I was in kreuzberg today so my view of berlin might be a bit skewed)

[red phoenix]

They usually dont speak german in potsdam

It's Sächsisch

[viral geyser]

WHAT

Warum spricht man im tiefsten Brandenburg sächsisch

[hardy wren]

das macht keinen sinn

[upbeat flax]

wohnt oder studiert jemand in Hamburg? wie sind die Preise für Studentenwohnungen da? Studentenwohnheime? Wohnungen? Frage für einen angehenden Kunststudenten. leider ist der nicht auf Discord

wie sind die Verdienstmöglichkeiten für ausländische Studenten?

[knotty lava]

gerade sowas wie studentenwohnheime sollte doch online leicht herauszufinden sein

[upbeat flax]

wahrscheinlich, aber ich habe keine Lust mich schon wieder durch das Netzwerk zu wühlen und manchmal sind Erfahrungsinformationen wesentlich nützlicher 😀

oder
man kommt schneller ans Ziel

🤷

[surreal ermine]

Weiß jemand zufällig, ob eine Kopie vom Sparbuch als Finanznachweis ausreicht? Oder muss das von irgendwem abgestempelt, bestätigt, unterschrieben oder sonst was werden?

[undone gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/zPoc3wQ.png this is on wg zimmer and idk how to fill in my number

i wrote the rest of my number in the other box and it didnt like it

[tight kelp]

you can write +## prefixes as 00##

[undone gyro]

oo ill try that ty

ah nu that doesnt work

[tight kelp]

.-.

did you include both the country prefix and the number prefix?

[kindred yew]

what does a random German number look like?

[undone gyro]

i did 0044 in that box

[exotic barn]

Can you try doing 44

[undone gyro]

nop that doesnt work either :/

[silent pilot]

the Vorwahl is five numbers

[stable talon]

Man I hate having to supply a phone number. There are always problems with forms like that. The automatic separation of digits happens at different numbers of digits based on the carrier or something. I had lyca for a while and that number was formatted like this [phone]. Now I'm on o2 and it's formatted like this [phone]

[silent pilot]

or +44 and then four numbers

if for example your number were 01570 7493837 then 01570 or +441570 is your Vorwahl

[stable talon]

Well that explains why I always have problems. Nemo, you are such a helpful person

👌

[silent pilot]

Google is my friend ^^

[undone gyro]

omg it worked

ty nemo

[slim fulcrum]

I picked the wrong route to go to school today @hushed gyro

[kindred yew]

what does it mean to be a Freistaat?

I think Bayern is called like that?

[exotic barn]

Auch in der Struktur der Bundesrepublik Deutschland mit ihrem föderalen System hat die Bezeichnung Freistaat keine rechtliche Bedeutung, da alle Länder der Bundesrepublik die gleiche verfassungsrechtliche Stellung besitzen. Daher ergeben sich für die Bundesländer, welche sie – wie etwa der Freistaat Bayern vornehmlich aus historischen Gründen – verwenden, auch keinerlei Sonderstellungen.

[hidden briar]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freistaat_(Republik) republic, no special rights

[kindred yew]

so it's just a name that stuck?

[viral geyser]

Yes.

[whole pecan]

Ist das ein Witz?

[viral geyser]

JUNGE

WARUM HAST DU NICHTS GELERNT

GUCK DIR DEN DIETER AN

DER HAT SOGAR EIN AUTO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cIW1n3oP_g Here is the original version @whole pecan

[whole pecan]

Achso

[viral geyser]

WILLST DU, DASS WIR STERBEN?

[indigo drum]

This is a genuine question related to music, ignoring what happened during the second world war, how were jews treated in German/Austrian society during 1880-1900? I guess a better question is how were jews seen compared to the christian population?

Were jewish practices shunned or prohibited in those days

[dawn widget]

A little bit of what I remember from history class mixed with a quick look at wikipedia:

Speaking specifically of 1880-1900, Jews (in Germany at least, im not sure about austria) were officially emancipated and given equal rights under Bismarck after the unification of the German Empire in 1871. Public opinion was mixed to negative (as was always the case regarding Jews' status in Europe), partly due to large amounts of Jewish refugees fleeing russia in the 1880s. and the term anti-Semitism was actually first coined in Germany in 1879 or 1880. That was when the first German anti-Semitic groups were formed, and there was what was called the 'völkische Bewegung' but they never gained enough traction in government to change laws all the way up to WWI. Up to WWI, German-Jewish as its own cultural identity became more of a thing, especially in German bourgeois culture, combining rather than separating the two.

Can't say much about Judaism compared to Christianity at the time, though - and Jewish as it pertains to Germany was more about the Jewish Volk rather than the religion of Judaism anyway.

If anyone wants to add to that or correct me feel free.

[hushed gyro]

@slim fulcrum oh geez rip

[fiery edge]

Do pillows go to the Sperrmüll?

[viral geyser]

We often have "Kleidersammlungscontainer", I'd toss them there.

Not sure if it's alright, though.

[fiery edge]

Just referred to an Entsorgung brochure and it says Kopfkissen goes in the Sperrmüll. Thanks tho 😬

[viral geyser]

Never threw away a pillow 😄

[undone gyro]

so

austria has no minimum wage

so like if i were to look for part time there

in like supermarket or retail or whatever

how much could i earn

like minimum?

[fleet pelican]

there isnt a minimum wage but there are

what I would call workers unions

that regulate a 'minimum wage'

the legality of course becomes very difficult when in court or what you're actually entitled to

but if you get a job with any regular frachise, i.e. the rewe group, bakeries, even international businesses that set up shop at central stations

you would be looking at about 9-10 euros minimum

I'm speaking about vienna

your wages are higher because cost of living is naturally higher too

this will vary in region

if you struggle with things like this again, or are still unsure, I'd just look up german laws for it

it very much often happens where germany implements something and austria implements the same 5 years later after they see it worked out

[tight kelp]

after copying the language they copy the laws smh

[fleet pelican]

I wish I was joking but pretty much everyone has told me it wasnt one

oh also isla with some special skills (like programming) you can land yourself some very cushy 1k a month plus jobs

which are part time

and can let you study at the same time

!!!

also check for your european status

afaik you have an english passport

[tight kelp]

wew is it that easy in at?

[fleet pelican]

it might make things tricky

it honestly

is lmfao

[tight kelp]

do they also hire in remote and stuff?

[fleet pelican]

my roommate is doing sys administration and as soon as he's done he's practically secured at a place that already knows his schedule with physics/chem

and this is like

sys administration

it isnt anything fancy, a real baby could go in and learn it

@tight kelp not a damn clue, I could ask though

if you were being serious

[tight kelp]

oh please do if it's not any trouble for you

[fleet pelican]

if you're not sarcastic I'd love t

o

[tight kelp]

or send some resources/links my way on how to look for that stuff :D

[fleet pelican]

but generally I thought it would be just as easy in germany?

[tight kelp]

guess who thought the same

and guess who is unemployed

and guess whether the two are the same person

[fleet pelican]

no 👀 ?

[tight kelp]

yes

and that's me

mario

[fleet pelican]

!

you sure itsjust jobs where

you dont wanna debase yourself

andthats why you dont wanna go after them

[undone gyro]

THANK U& HORK

U DA BE

and like what else counts as special skills

does piano count

does english count

[fleet pelican]

I put

(LIKE PROGRAMMING)

no everyone can speak english

maybe russian and chinese for tourism

I generally mean skills that are marketable and you dont need a degree in

just yknow

learning n dedication 😤

[undone gyro]

does japan count

ye i getcha

[fleet pelican]

not a clue darlin

[undone gyro]

ye id probs guess not bc japans boom was 20 30 years ago

[fleet pelican]

theres a job I applied for a few days ago

[undone gyro]

an ye i have uk pass

[fleet pelican]

its like a baby sitter for a bunch of kids

but I just have to talk to them in englsih

[undone gyro]

ooo nice

[fleet pelican]

because their richkid parents want them to learn a second language

wish I was that stupidly rich

[tight kelp]

@fleet pelican well I'm in no condition to move so that's why I look for stuff I can reach with public transport or is remote, and of course that restricts the possibilities a good bit but it's honestly a bit weird that I haven't found anything yet. But most of my perplexity comes from the fact that everyone looks to hire long-term (which I'm ok with tbh) but I can't find anything part-time or even one-time

[undone gyro]

sounds like a great job tbh

i could do that as well

[fleet pelican]

it might cause problems in the future islo

your uk pass

[undone gyro]

ah ye

i asked my dad if i could apply for japan one and he was like no y u need that

rofl

[fleet pelican]

@tight kelp huh, what kinda area do you live in

ah even a japanese one might not help

you'd still have to apply for a visa with both lmao

[karmic yew]

Serki, I mean, long-term tends to be preferable because acclimatizing to project, getting you into swing of things and processes, etc - all of it takes time.

[undone gyro]

ye

[fleet pelican]

ngl, sometimes feel blessed to be lithuanian

[karmic yew]

Why?

[undone gyro]

thats bc u are bless 😤

[karmic yew]

hecke is a bless yes

[tight kelp]

@karmic yew sure but you'd think if elsewhere in the developed world part-time jobs exist, they'd also do where I live

@fleet pelican I live in a city :/

[fleet pelican]

rofl nice

[karmic yew]

There should be part-time jobs , @tight kelp , but part-time in IT is, well.
It's possible, but not that trivial, to find. Keep looking, I guess?

[tight kelp]

I mean, to be perfectly honest in the latest weeks I haven't been looking very intently because I was focussed on other stuff and I'm not dying of hunger anyway

but sure I'll keep looking

[karmic yew]

Yes, you should keep looking.
Plus the usual: create a profile on LinkedIn, publish resume on whatever job searching websites are in your region, etc etc.

[tight kelp]

yeah I did all that spiel

I do get a call every now and then but for some reason IT companies in Germany tend to settle in remote places far from all public transportation 🙃

and I'm not going to buy and maintain a car before finding a permanent job. Probably not even afterwards

[karmic yew]

Maybe property prices or zoning regulations?

[tight kelp]

probably rent prices for commercial use 🤔

[lime stone]

anyone live/work in Switzerland?

[foggy prism]

yes hi

live tho

not work, am a student

[sick imp]

The answer to your question is yes.
Source: "In 2017, the amount of gainfully employed persons in Switzerland amounted to 5.03 million."
Which makes sense really. It would be a shit nation if nobody lived there or if everyone was unemployed.

[rain panther]

Areng du bist so schlau

[steep comet]

@fleet pelican lmao this is really old but that job you applied for >_>

interesting

[fleet pelican]

Uhh

Which one lmao

[sullen spruce]

has any german citizen here brought their non-eu spouse to germany with no money 😩

[zinc spear]

whats going on here?

[exotic barn]

If anyone has lived in Rhine-Ruhr area please let me know. Soon I’ll move there for my new job so I want to ask about renting apartment there.

[hidden briar]

not much different than the rest of germany, just a lot of urban areas, the biggest ones are Köln/Düsseldorf/Ruhrgebiet

[exotic barn]

Is there any dangerous area I should avoid?

I’m considering Düsseldorf/Wuppertal

[hidden briar]

with rush hour traffic they are up to 1h apart (by car), less if you and your work are close to public transport

[kindred yew]

at what time do kids go to school in the morning?

at what time do uni classes usually start in the morning?

[foggy prism]

for me:
primary school: 8:15 or 9:00
secondary school: 7:30 or 8:15
Gymnasium: 8:00
University: 8:15 or 8:45 depending on campus

[cinder barn]

normally school always started 7:55 or 8 am and now uni starts earliest at 9:30 am

[kindred yew]

wow that's pretty late

[cinder barn]

yea but its nice because i have to travel 1 hour by train so :D

[foggy prism]

yea basically schools with a lot of commuters start later

[kindred yew]

god, big city life

so you have to get up around 7:30 cyno?

[cinder barn]

i normally get up earlier to catch the train/bus ^^

[foggy prism]

I had to get up at 5:30 for uni for my first year

to be there by 8

[cinder barn]

oof

[foggy prism]

train left 6:15

[cinder barn]

i had to get up at 5:45 for school tho ^^

but it started at 7:55 so

[kindred yew]

im 15' away from uni by bike

[cinder barn]

oh you are so lucky xD

[kindred yew]

I want to live in a small inbred village

[cinder barn]

last time i had such a short route to somewhere was in primary school

[kindred yew]

where do you guys study, btw

I had a primary school nearby as a kid, but my mom didn't send me there

[cinder barn]

i study in vienna

[foggy prism]

Primary and secondary school in my home village, gynnasium in the nearest town, uni in zürich except calling it uni is confusing

[exotic barn]

Damnit why so early

[foggy prism]

because Uni usually refers to the UZH, another university

[exotic barn]

My school starts at 8:45 and it is 2 minutes on foot from me

[kindred yew]

what do you call your... college?

[foggy prism]

just by its name, eth

[cinder barn]

oof you practically live next to your school wtf

[exotic barn]

Exactly

literally the next building

[kindred yew]

my dad used to live in front of my uni

my aunt lives there now

i wish I could live there ngl

[exotic barn]

@hidden briar Thanks for the info! My work should be right next to U-bahn. I’ll probably just use public transport

[lime stone]

@foggy prism hi

@sick imp great answer 😉

[uncut scaffold]

Wo studierst du @cinder barn?

Oh, nevermind, Wien hast du schon gesagt 👀

[cinder barn]

studierst du auch in Wien?

@uncut scaffold

[uncut scaffold]

Nop, ab nächstes Jahr wahrscheinlich Bonn oder Köln, irgendwas in der Nähe.

[cinder barn]

ach schön, dann viel Spaß dabei :D

[tight kelp]

hey guys, two things.
Number one: while my bf was working today, someone reversed on him (he's fine) while he was on his work bycicle on the bycicle track while crossing the street, and he (my bf) had the green light. Anyway what I want to know is: the police had him pay Verwarnungsgeld; do you think the other guy had to pay it too? Since my bf was not in the wrong, is there a way to have this money reimbursed? What can we do if we think he's been unjustly deemed at fault?
His German is not at a level such that he could comfortably defend himself agaist a native who'd give an untrue or biased version of what happened, and by what he said I see zero reasons why he should be charged, unless it's a fee both parties have to pay just for calling the police.

(i'll ask about the second thing when we're done with this one)

[exotic barn]

If your bf paid, the thing is over and he's admitted to being "guilty". The only way to contest that is to not pay in the first place but once a fine is paid, there's nothing you can do

[tight kelp]

so in other words if you're not a native speaker of german you can be softly coerced into admitting guilt for something someone else is guilty of?

[exotic barn]

It's his fault for not contesting it. I don't know enough about the situation but German police officers speak English as well. Besides, accepting a fine is another way of pleading guilty

[tight kelp]

but he didn't understand that it was a fine, how can you contest an accusation if you aren't told that you're being accused? He simply assumed it was for the call. If a policeman tells you "pay this" you normally just assume they're upholding the law, not taking a shortcut at the expense of the most vulnerable party at hand

anyway, let's say this can be contested after all, where would we go to do it? The police or some other office?

let's move on to number two, which is more straightforward: my bf ha been asked by his boss to give him a list of days next year when he'll take holidays.
I assume (but don't know for sure yet) that he'd still be able to change those dates if need be, but is this usual or even legal?
We'd have to decide right now for what holidays we want for the entirety of next year and that sound a bit fishy to me, not to mention borderline abusive. As you guys may know I tend to be a bit belligerent so this may very well be me overreacting, but knowing something for sure is always better than not knowing so I welcome any insight.

[solemn bay]

I guess one thing to consider is in what way he asked. Whether it was just a request (it would be nice and helpful but not necessary) or whether it was an expectation.

Cause I don't think asking in itself is bad at all.

[tight kelp]

I'd... very much like to know the details of that myself :P

thing is, it's most likely some directive his section boss received from above, not his own initiative

[sullen robin]

@tight kelp It is fairly normal for companies to request their employees that they give them their holiday plans for next year so they can plan projects, etc. This is not unusual in my experience. I don't know if he can change his holiday dates once set, I don't see why not provided he does so well in advance, but they cannot force you to change your holiday unless they give a very good reason. I think so anyway, it really depends on the nature of the company.

also, is it common in Italy that you have to pay for police coming? That sounded unusual to me for him to think that

[tight kelp]

we have been living in germany for a while now. I wouldn't be asking here if it had to do with italian police ^^

oh sorry i misunderstood the question. No it isn't, I/we just assumed it was so because it was the only sensible thing we could work out as to why he would have to pay anything at all in that situation. We never really had to deal with anything of the sort before, we're rather lawful ourselves

I guess people who reverse into other people do it more predictably in Italy? xD Somehow nothing of the sort ever happened despite our native areas being infamous for their, should I say, aggressive driving style

[rain panther]

@tight kelp the same thing w the bike happened to my cousin

He had to pay 500euros for 'damage' lol

[tight kelp]

Wtf

For me it was a much smaller sum so I'm not going to get through the trouble of contesting it but 500 is a bit much

[humble bough]

the man across from me on the sbahn sat his full, lidless coffee on the seat next to him and is now just texting... are all germans so fearless

[tight kelp]

you're not even supposed to bring food and drinks on the train so... :D

[humble bough]

pffft lol

never seen anyone following that one

I only take the sbahn for like two stops atm tho

[mental oriole]

My favorite German culture shock story was when I was at REWE and some guy dropped his butter and I picked it up for him and he acted like I did him some sort of massive favor.

Like if I had just given him €100 or something

[kindred yew]

Rewe?

a supermarket?

[mental oriole]

Yeah

[kindred yew]

sounds weird, why didnt he just say danke and go on

[mental oriole]

Big supermarkets in Germany are REWE, Aldi, Lidl, Netto and Edeka

My favorite by far is REWE

[exotic barn]

you havent seen Real and Kaufland then :^)

though REWE is certainly nice

[tacit briar]

meh? I always try to be helpful to the people in the supermarkets and no one is surprised -.-

[rain panther]

Real and Kaufland are really huge

[tacit briar]

There are two Nettos btw, just to confuse people ;p

Mit dem Hund und ohne Hund

[tight kelp]

there's also aldi nord and aldi süd but you wouldn't see both in the same area

[mental oriole]

Aldi Nord owns Trader Joe's in the US and Aldi Süd owns Aldi US

[tacit briar]

Die beiden Aldis haben eine ganze Menge Tochterfirmen im ganzen Europa

[tight kelp]

If I go from Dortmund to Köln and have an Abo, does buying a Zusatzticket suffice? 🤔
I had a page to verify this but i'm not sure how to find it anymore

[hidden briar]

what kind of Abo?

[pallid rivet]

https://www.kaufland.com.au/ Kaufland Australia site is live 😱

[tight kelp]

@hidden briar Ticket1000

[hidden briar]

no idea

[tight kelp]

we were able to go to Düsseldorf and stuff with that because the Zusatzticket basically extends the validity to the whole D area instead of just the A one. What I'm not sure about is whether that works for Köln too since afaik the company there is a different one

[hidden briar]

Köln is VRS, D'dorf is VRR

[red phoenix]

Köln gey. Ddorf nicht ganz so sehr aber immer noch

[tight kelp]

hi

apparently they have an agreement and with a zusatzticket i should be fine

[foggy prism]

mein Zug heute abend
ICE ist qualität

[silent pilot]

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/deutsche-bahn-163.html

[foggy prism]

mittlerweile sieht er übrigens so aus

(und ein ersatzzug ist gestellt)

[fleet pelican]

lol

[humble bough]

There are two Nettos btw, just to confuse people ;p
wait what

my life is a lie

[hidden briar]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netto_(Handelskette)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netto_Marken-Discount
mit und ohne Hund

[pale saddle]

Theres also two aldis that have basically divided the world between them

this is the current map of their race to conquer the world

[pallid rivet]

TIL that the Aldi here is Aldi Süd

[humble bough]

I know the two different aldis being a thing for sure

but the netto thing is news to me and I think I've seen both and I can't handle

[tight kelp]

what, there's aldi in italy? :0

if it's just in south tirol it doesn't count

[fleet pelican]

[winged quiver]

Do you think taking harder, college level classes in the US will give me a better shot at getting into a German university?

Do these kind of things matter when applying

[fleet pelican]

depends heavily on the uni

which one in particular

[winged quiver]

I mean I suppose a univerity I would be proud to go to is Ludwig Maximilians (LMU)

but would that also mean that lower ranking universities probably wouldn't care so much?

[elder ingot]

Ok so this may seem like a silly question but bear with me. 😛

My actual first name is Morgan. Does anyone reckon this would be an issue for me interacting with people once I'm in Germany? It's not the world's biggest problem but I'm just curious whether it would seem weird, be annoying for me, or anything really.

[tight kelp]

Don't think so. It's not an obscure name and I don't see much room for misinterpretation in sentences where you introduce yourself

[foggy prism]

there’s at least one famous actor with that name

you’re fine

[kindred yew]

guten Morgen freimann

[final compass]

Does anyone have a guide/suggestion on what to do in Vienna during 3 day visit? (mid-December)

[silent pilot]

@sick imp

[sick imp]

First time visiting?

Given that it's Vienna and it's Christmas there's a lot of stuff to do and see.

[tight kelp]

Vienna probably has a website about touristy stuff to do there

or twelve

[fleet pelican]

Christmas markts

You can't miss them

[final compass]

First time, yes. For weekend of December 14-16.

Anything specific?

I'm still deciding whether it should be 2 or 3 full days.

[hard parcel]

Schönbrunn, Belvedere, Hofburg, Parlament, Stephansdom, Natur/Kunsthistorisches Museum

really depends on what you want to see

[compact slate]

Ich werde im Februar den TestDaF belegen 😱

Hoffentlich schaff ich den Test

Und kriege genug Punkte, um C1 zu bekommen

[kindred yew]

viel Glück

[whole pecan]

@final compass

[final compass]

👀

[whole pecan]

Beste Uni der welt

[echo cypress]

Ich will auch einen C1 Test belegen. <_<

[compact slate]

Belegen oder schaffen? Rip

[exotic barn]

Anyone familiar with applying for Aufenthaltstitel for work purposes? To sign my work contract they need an Aufenthaltstitel long enough that covers the time of the contract, but I feel like it doesn't make sense for the foreigner's office to award me an residence permit without some kind of proof that I'm accepted to work here 🤔

[exotic barn]

maybe they're looking for people with residence permit

i mean for ppl who already have it

[upbeat mountain]

@final compass depends on what you want out of your visit, if you want more of like a see all the grand sights then visit a palace/museums if you want a more personal feel i can highly recommend just wandering around the inner ring, maybe stopping at some coffee shop, just taking all the side streets the tourists aren't on and enjoying it

christmas markets definitely

schonbrunn is also lovely if the weather isn't too bad

[final compass]

Thanks! Will add that to my route.

[upbeat mountain]

keep in mind it is a little off to the side, most of the rest of the things you'll probably want to see are pretty concentrated near the center of vienna and can all be walked to very easily

[final compass]

What's the best strudel place in Vienna?

[fleet pelican]

my home

[restive ocean]

Hello, has anyone here gone to one of the winter/summer courses in german universities that the DAAD offers?

[final compass]

What's the best strudel place in Vienna that would be practical for me to visit?

[fleet pelican]

I'm only in the 14th district smh 😔

cant even go out of your way to visit me + have the worlds best streudel

[final compass]

What's the second best strudel place in Vienna? :) Just as a backup.

[fleet pelican]

no idea

do you wanna go and find out

[rapid star]

Hello everyone

I wanna ask

So
I'm trans
And I wanna know like, how's trans rights stuff in Germany

[exotic barn]

afaik it's never really been a problem in germany

my uni even has a non binary club

[tight kelp]

bisexual in a homosexual relationship here and I've always felt rather welcomed. I don't know any trans person so I can't give any specific experience even second-hand unfortunately. All I can say is that I never noticed anyone visibly trans around the city, but that doesn't mean anything and it's not specific to any european country. :P

[foggy prism]

I have never met anyone here in switzerland who was trans and you could tell (by which I mean either: someone who told me their gender was different from what I assumed, or someone who was clearly trying to pass but was failing still), so either everyone’s in the closet or passing super well (something tells me mostly the former)

it’s also like, really not a topic that ever comes up, and I don’t think there’s much public awareness

I‘m in a bit of a bubble tho

[karmic yew]

i know at least one austrian trans girl, i could ask her

[fleet pelican]

Plenty of trans folk in Austria but I wouldnt go into deep talks about it w them, they'll be friendly and friends but unlikely to be understanding

W other people*

[humble bough]

as far as rights are concerned, I think trans healthcare is supposed to be covered by both statutory and private insurance in Germany as long as you can get a doctor to sign off on it, but the resources I can find are in German

I don't know any German trans people yet but I only know a handful of Germans so far anyway and you can't expect to just be able to clock any given person on the street as trans or not trans

[umbral shadow]

Anyone here familiar with the University system in Deutschland?

I'm highly considering moving to Germany, and I've heard they like German Universities, as in hate American degrees

So, figured I should leave my uni likely to go save money for Deutschland

[solemn bay]

What are you studying?

[hidden briar]

for some info see https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/studying

(and the other pages of the wiki)

[umbral shadow]

Ah, thanks.

@solemn bay

I'm doing Computer Science.
My uni costs way too damn much (USA) so I figured since I'm immigrating anyways, studying in Germany should be my best bet for starting there

[solemn bay]

Sure.

[umbral shadow]

Except now I don't know major employers in that field in Germany, but I guess I'll find out

I heard most developed countries are pretty nice for that path

[solemn bay]

A lot of people in this server are studying CS in Germany/Austria.

When I say a lot I mean like, a LOT, lol.

[umbral shadow]

Jesus...

inb4 this server coincidentally starts their own software business

....

This looks unreal tbh

Never seen a living quarters be both nice, and less than $500 a month

[humble bough]

we should have a role for "studying CS in Germany/Austria" lol

[sullen robin]

@umbral shadow major employees are basically any big company that isn't retail (and even some of them actually)

[whole pecan]

If you are taking a cs course taught in foreign language, you dont need deutsch c2/ testdaf usually right

Or does it vary by uni

Mist I mean admission requirements=/=course requirements right
I scanned the tu Dortmund site map yesterday and both German and English webpages did not mention a German admission requirement

[fleet pelican]

depends heavily

some only want b1, some b2, most c1, some c2

[solemn flicker]

Hey all, quick question. My university resources have been less help and I plan on studying next April in Germany. Specifically in potsdam. Does any one know a good place to fine available living spaces?

[tight kelp]

there's several websites for general stuff (airbnb) and wohngemeinschaften (houses and apartments rented together with several tenants, common practice in Germany for students and such. Often abbreviated to WG and there's a lot of websites for finding one of those). As for something specifically offered by uni potsdam, if that's what you're asking, i have no idea unfortunately :P

[solemn flicker]

Thanks I was looking for indeoendant housing so you answered my question 🙂

[whole pecan]

@solemn flicker hi which Uni?

Potsdam?

[upper tundra]

hi all, anyone available to answer a question regarding a search for an announcement in the Bundesanzeiger I'm trying to do?

[exotic barn]

It's probably best to just pose your question

[exotic barn]

Was ist besser - Hochschule oder Uni? Gibt es irgendwelche Unterschiede bezueglich der Arbeitsmoeglichkeiten oder der Bezahlung?

Ich suche mir aus einen Studienplatz, (Master Elektrotechnik/Informationstechnik) und bezfeifle ein bisschen wegen der Schwierigkeit der Pruefungen. Gibt es vielleicht irgendwo welche Mustervarianten zu finden, um meine Kenntnisse zu testen?

[hidden briar]

FH (Fachhochschule) ist praktischer/anwendungsbezogener/einfacher als Uni; dementsprechend ist der Abschluss ein bisschen weniger wert

alte Prüfungen gibt es oft bei der Fachschaft des jeweiligen Studiengangs

[exotic barn]

Danke fuer die Antwort.

[humble bough]

@solemn flicker I know this is late af (I don't check this server often lol) but since I have firsthand experience looking for housing in Potsdam -- just so you know, the housing situation in potsdam is absolutely abysmal (worse than Berlin imo) so start looking now if you wanna have a place for April. If you're staying for at least six months and money is no object, there are private dorms near several of the uni campuses in the city (they tend to be a bit expensive and require a pretty big deposit up-front though). It is really really really difficult to find a place to live in Potsdam and Berlin though. Like, I've been here since September and was couch-surfing until last weekend. It is really hard to find someplace without knowing someone involved personally, and searching for a place can be really discouraging. Feel free to PM me later on if you have more specific questions.

[exotic barn]

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'm a bit confused about Abmeldung. If I'm simply moving to another apartment in Germany, do I still need to do Abmeldung of my previous apartment? Would it suffice if I just register my new apartment as my main apartment? I'm not sure how the database is kept.

I tried to google a bit and it really seem like Abmeldung is only used when you are leaving Germany.

[hidden briar]

AFAIK you are correct

[umbral shadow]

Does anyone here know of Frankfurt University of Applied Sciences?

[exotic barn]

^Same question about RWTH Aachen.

[hidden briar]

great reputation for Maschinenbau http://www.rwth-aachen.de/cms/root/Studium/Vor-dem-Studium/Studiengaenge/Liste-Aktuelle-Studiengaenge/Studiengangbeschreibung/~bnev/Maschinenbau-B-Sc-/

[exotic barn]

@exotic barn im studying in rwth

War es schwierig, eine Wohnung zu finden? Wie schwer sind die Pruefungen?

RWTH in a nutshell:
If you're not gonna study maschinenbau, prepare to hate maschis a lot cuz theyre fucking everywhere. They will steal your lecture halls and you will never be able to eat in the mensa after a maschi lecture.
Night life isn't interesting here. I dont have any other experience but from what ive heard Aachen is a p boring city.
It's not hard to find a WG, dunno bout apartments. I'd say you should start looking 3-4 months before you arrive.
Dunno, haven't had any exams yet + I'm studying architecture so we generally dont have many exams. But there is a popular phrase about exams here "Try hard, fail harder" :^)
Well i think it really depends on you, just start preparing earlier and just study lmao

oh whats good about the uni is that there are a lot of interesting projects going on

[hidden briar]

naja, rund um die Pontstraße gibt es relativ viel um Party zu machen, jedenfalls mehr als z.B. in Bonn

[exotic barn]

and the uni works with top companies

for instance Bosch

and one can earn some good money

Thanks for the answer. I'm trying to find a master studies in Aachen, but they all seem to be in english here (leider).

why leider

[hidden briar]

was denn für einen Master?

[exotic barn]

oh yeah and uni campus is really big and good

cos i got a C1 in german, by the way C1 in english is not a problem too, just need to pay for CAE/IELTS, but they need a GRE too as part of Zugangsvoraussetzungen, and its a problem for me, because i have to go to another city in a 1000km from mine and so on.
was denn für einen Master?
Communications Engineering

are you russian

yes

what city

Irkutsk

ah

cant one take ielts in

irkutsk

ielts is ok, but gre is not

whats gre

GRE is mainly about maths, logic and a bit of sophisticated english

oh

native english speakers do it as well

well tbh rwth is a p chill uni and just try contacting them

they might accept you without it

if its not really important

and you might take it here in germany

or when youre in moscow idk

for example you can apply without a C1 certificate

but must provide it later

Ok, thanks for the advice
Maybe i'll just look for another uni, if there seems to be so much requirements. In Aachen there are just so many interesting elective courses, thats why i would choose it.

[hidden briar]

Was willst du denn studieren? Die meisten Masterstudiengänge sind auf Deutsch. Wo guckst du denn?

[exotic barn]

Ich suche nach Elektrotechnik und Informationstechnik Studiengaenge, wo es die fuer mich geeignete Modulen gibt. Irgendwas mit Kommunikationstechnik, Signalverarbeitung, Radarsystemen usw.

Den Studiumangebot in meisten Hochschulen habe ich schon mal durschgeguckt und habe nichts richtig Passendes gefunden, (manchmal gab es einfach keine Information zum Modulangebot an der Hochschulinternetseite) und jetz achte ich mehr an den Studiumangebot an den Unis.

[hidden briar]

schick doch vielleicht mal eine Mail an die Fachschaft

[exotic barn]

Nein, danke, es gibt viel zu viel Foerderungen da. Erst sah ich "nicht zulassungsbeschraenkt" und dachte kuhl, so einfach ist das. Aber dann sah ich, dass es noch einen Punkt "Zugangsbeschraenkung" gibt, und da war es ganz viel fuer non EU Buerger zu erledigen, also will ich das gar nicht mehr. Lieber finde ich einen Studienplatz wo anders.

[undone hawk]

@exotic barn as far as I know it's 18, I'm not sure though (he asked what the age for going to a strip Club is in germany in the wrong channel)

[jade helm]

@exotic barn def 18+

as long as 18+ you are fully adult

clubs make their own rules regarding admittance tho, as expected I guess

[exotic barn]

Ok

Thank you

[exotic barn]

Can anyone tell me how Osnabrück is? And Westphalian culture in general?
I'm seriously considering studying abroad at Universität Osnabrück next year, when I'll have taken 2 years of college German

[frank tangle]

Hi, may I ask a question for Germans? Assuming that average salary for software engineer in Germany €50,000/yr, how much approximately single person will get after taxes?

[exotic barn]

im assuming a bit more than a half of it

[woven niche]

Half? We only have 30%

Something like that

[carmine pilot]

47% or so

[sullen robin]

@frank tangle that's average for mid-level software engineers

I don't earn that much anyway

[frank tangle]

Wow, that's very sad. Everywhere the same shit. People work for being able to survive in order to work.

[sullen robin]

what

my wage is fine to live on

maybe if I had 3 kids and a dog it would be a problem

[exotic barn]

Just get 4 dogs instead tbh

[humble bough]

I'm living on like €10,000 a year (net - it's a stipend so no tax) and it feels luxurious lol but maybe i've just got low standards after undergrad

[umbral shadow]

heh

Maybe living in Frankfurt am Main should be tolerable for me

Goood ol'Duetschland requires proof of 8.700 Euros per year

[exotic barn]

frankfurt is p expensive

[umbral shadow]

Figured it would be

Perhaps I can talk that over with German immigration officials in the Consulate

Or the University themselves

[exotic barn]

talk what? they wont change the money limit for you

[humble bough]

I feel like living in Frankfurt for less than that would be tough anyway right?

[tight kelp]

there's no way it would be enough unless you freeload someone else's rent or something

[echo cypress]

^ Defs

It's hard to get a student visa for Germany. You need that money up front.

But you would also be allowed to work part time.

[final compass]

Where in Vienna can I buy a balloon (inflated, for birthday)?

Ah, actually google maps shows lots of places.

[echo yacht]

Hi (wave)
I'm planning to go to Cologne in March next year and I want to go see the Cologne zoo. For those who know, is it fine if I wait until I'm there to get the tickets?, or is there a good advantage in getting them in advance?

[whole pecan]

In advance is usually cheaper

But you have to check for a cancellation policy

[echo yacht]

but it's safe to just get it there the same day?

[hidden briar]

Should be fine

[sullen spruce]

Favorite Audio Production / Music Technology / Music Recording programs in germany/austria/switzerland ?or the EU?

[exotic barn]

Hello

I need help

What is studienkolleg?

for dentistry

Which subjects must i tkae

Take*

[undone hawk]

Wasn't there Zahnmedizin on the thing you sent earlier in questions?

[exotic barn]

yes.

But studienkolleg is a prepatory course

you must take certain subjects depending on what you're willing to study

it's for a year

[exotic barn]

@exotic barn i think you need M course

@exotic barn must I study up until c1?

Then enter the institute ?

Studienkolleg

Or is there no language requirement ?

Im not 100% sure since i didnt go there. You need either B1 or B2 level, there are entrance exams and for M course as for medicine in general you must have only excellent notes as 1.0 in german system

I saw some statistics, it’s like 1.0-1.3 i think? (100%-96%)

[exotic barn]

i think its more like 1.0 but not sure

[exotic barn]

What is that?

its like 4.0 GPA

rip

What is that

So I must have a really good score

Is it hard ?

To reach that score

[umbral shadow]

So uhh

What is this chart

Like what am I looking at here

[exotic barn]

^

[hidden briar]

How perfect your Abitur has to be to study different kinds of medicine

grades are 1 (best) to 6 (worst)

DN = average grade of your last 3 years

[exotic barn]

@exotic barn yes you must, if youre average isnt equal to german 1.0~1.3, im 100% surd you wont get a place

[exotic barn]

🤔 As far as I know the school graduation certificate from your country doesn't matter at Studienkolleg, but it does when you apply to a Uni that redirects you to Studienkolleg.

[whole pecan]

Warum ist Medizin so grausam?

[tight kelp]

weil zu viele Leute das machen wollen, daher sind die Voraussetzungen erhöht worden

[whole pecan]

Oh

Und ist das zentralabitur am wichtigsten?

Französisch gehört dazu

[exotic barn]

Was genau meinst du damit? Zentralabitur heißt nur, dass sich Bundesländer den gleichen Themenkorridor teilen

[whole pecan]

Oh

Ich dachte, dass zentralabitur mehr wert ist

Wie sat themenprüfung und sat Mathe/englisch

Ist französisch verpflichtend?

[viral geyser]

Nein. Eine zweite Fremdsprache ist verpflichtend (Latein oder Spanisch können es auch sein, vom Bundesland abhängig), mehr aber auch nicht. Und du wirst nicht zwangsläufig darin geprüft.

[whole pecan]

Englisch zählt nicht als Fremdsprache oder

[exotic barn]

sehr wohl, allerdings ist das meistens die erste Fremdsprache

[whole pecan]

Is leichter Sprache a requirement for all publications?

This is wonderful

[viral geyser]

For all publications? No, definitely not.

[whole pecan]

So what organisations have this

Government?

[viral geyser]

Mostly governments, but even there the concept is rather new and not undisputed

[carmine pilot]

Hallo zusamen

Ich habe die Frage im #genral gestellt, und Habri hat mich im dieses Raum geschickt 😛 (Ich hab vergessen das wir dieses Raum haben)

[manic jasper]

Hallo :)

[carmine pilot]

I have a question about like German way of thing in general

I know the unemployment rate is low

But, how easy is it to get a job for a person with a Master Degree?

[manic jasper]

I think pretty much easy. (I'm living in the border but that's what i can see)

[carmine pilot]

I'm sort of traumatized by unempoyment

[manic jasper]

Why ?

[carmine pilot]

Because I was unemployed for quite a while

and I have two master degrees

[manic jasper]

It depends of the master degree i would say.
Two !?

[carmine pilot]

yeah

I've been offered to do research in Germany for 1 year

[manic jasper]

Well i would say like in France. Not so easy but possible :)

Is there anyone living in germany here ? >,

[carmine pilot]

But I also was offered a permanent position at my current job, which pays nicely but it has no perspective in general

[manic jasper]

Hard choice ..

[karmic yew]

Ehh. Perspective is important, I'd say? Background of two masters and a research position seems like a pretty nice thing to have on resume.

[carmine pilot]

I also have like a dozen of awards in design

I mean minor awards, but still notable

[manic jasper]

A friend of mine also have a master degree in Architects and easily found a job

[carmine pilot]

I personally would rather work as a Industrial Designer.... I've specialized in Apparel design (like garment construction and CAD technologies)

And it is hard gauging the industry tbh.... I don't know market status or employment rates

[manic jasper]

I made an internship at Siemens in Germany, they may be interested in this field. You should check :)

Btw in Germany the industry work 35h per week ;-)

[carmine pilot]

a what now?

35?

[manic jasper]

Hours

Arf ^^
There is a special agreement for the industry
Anyway, there must be some national institutions which collects the employment rate

I think it's called "Statistisches Bundesamt"

D: which country !? Japan ? X)

[carmine pilot]

private comopany

[manic jasper]

Okay, I'm so happy not working there ><

[carmine pilot]

LOL

[undone hawk]

More work = more munnies

[manic jasper]

Hum ... That is what the presidents say in France but at the end we keep earning less and less :(

[atomic comet]

Does anyone have tips for finding apartments in the Berlin area? My roommate and I are searching around yo no avail just yet

On top of that it seems everywhere I look is pre-furnished, is this normal?

[exotic barn]

Yes, its normal

Usually you buy furniture in the apartment

[tight kelp]

from what I know, finding a place in Berlin is quite hard so expect to "couchsurf" for a long time before you get a more permanent place.
Where I'm at (which is not at all Berlin) pre-furnished places are hard to find but the situation here is probably a lot different than there

[rigid valley]

if ur german is decent ... like if u can have a decent conversation wuth germans then u can get internship/jobs easily

also if ur getting an internship, working hrs depends on the company which can range from 20 -40hrs per week

[carmine pilot]

Are internships paid in Germany?

[hidden briar]

depends

[humble bough]

idk when I looked for places I had trouble finding somplace pre-furnished but... I also had problems finding a place in general tbh

I realize this is late af but oh well

[carmine pilot]

So it is difficult finding an apartment in Germany? in general?

Have you tried agencies?

[viral geyser]

It is difficult depending on the city you want to live in.

Or the region in general.

[humble bough]

in Berlin it is very difficult

but I never tried agencies so idk how well those work

[winged quiver]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to study animal behavior in Germany and how?

[hidden briar]

some inspiration: https://unicheck.unicum.de/studium-mit-tieren

[winged quiver]

Danke! Diese Webseite fand ich sehr hilfreich :)!

[umbral shadow]

I found this while checking if I'm able to apply to German universities

Does anyone here know what they mean by "11 Form"?

[molten hearth]

Just get German C1 ez pz

[umbral shadow]

This isn't related to that

My High School Diploma and C1 certification arte 2 different things

BOTH need to happen

[humble bough]

can somebody help me out with what the first button on my intercom is supposed to do? The one with the key opens the door downstairs but I have no idea what the other one is, and I can't ask my flatmate as he's gone for Christmas

[carmine pilot]

turn on the light

or turn of the bell actually

[humble bough]

... I'm just gonna continue not using it I guess

I'm still not sure how to use the intercom part of the intercom either anyway

[foggy prism]

ay someone else who just doens’t understand intercoms

[humble bough]

I have to receive the IKEA people tomorrow so hopefully I figure it out

[exotic barn]

@humble bough cant you msg your flatmate? also, maybe your neighbors would know?

[humble bough]

I mean I could do those things but m'social anxiety

the intercom has a sort of phone thing so I assume I can talk with that?

at least the IKEA bois call beforehand

[lunar garden]

hi guys

how do I apply for a language certificate in Germany?

especially for CEFR level

[exotic barn]

You sign up for an exam and go take it. There are multiple certificates tho

[lunar garden]

which place should I visit for the exam and which one is the one used the most and what are the examination period etc?

sorry for the many many questions btw!

[tame forum]

Goethe and test daf certificates are recognised all over germany. depending in which country you are at the time of giving the exam, the "place" you visit changes. the frequency of how many times the language exam takes place depends if u go to the goethe institute (more frequent exams for internal students than for external people) afaik they ( goethe exams) take place atleast 6 times a year. and again once again depends on your country. search up goethe or testdaf on google. goethe is better for beginners since testdaf directly tests you for B2/C1 level skills

testdaf == a german ielts

@lunar garden

[lunar garden]

okay, sounds good. Guess I will find one next spring for a goethe or testdaf 😃

[tame forum]

check the dates now itself. the exams are popular and in some countries there are waiting lists. tougher if ur an external candidate.

[lunar garden]

is it also popular in Germany itself?

since I assume most people already had it from their home country

[tame forum]

oh about germany idk. i assume they take place very frequently in germany

no many people go to germany specifically to study german. and the exams take place there too

afaik theres also a visa one can specifically take to study german in germany

no totally sure tho

@lunar garden

[umbral shadow]

There is.

I'll dig it up from here.
https://www.study-in.de

[muted hull]

Gibt es hier jemand, der sich für C1 Prüfung vorbereitet?

[exotic barn]

@muted hull welche Prüfung wirst du machen?

[muted hull]

Goethe C1

[exotic barn]

Oh, das mache ich nicht, aber viel Glück

[muted hull]

Welche Prüfung denn wirst du machen?

[exotic barn]

DSH

[tame forum]

for someone who has given a B1 goethe exam. do all the parts. (speaking, writing, reading, listening) take place on the same day?

[exotic barn]

They did for me

[cyan breach]

I've done a Goethe Exam and yes, it all happens on the same day @tame forum

[tame forum]

das ist nicht gut 😦

[cyan breach]

The parts usually aren't super long.

Although mine was at my school and broken up into different parts.

Speaking was separated from everything else.

[tame forum]

yah even ielts was the same. except speaking was not only sepreated but also on a completely different day.

and reading listening writing back to back.

i honesty think this arraangent in language exams is too exhausting for the exam takers.

and this is even though i am pretty proficient in english

[lunar garden]

@exotic barn is DSH a lot harder than goethe test?

how hard was it in your personal opinion?

[exotic barn]

I haven’t done it yet, no idea :‘)

And considering i did B1 Goethe and DSH is B2-C2 and for Unis, it cant be compared

[lunar garden]

hmm okay... gotta practice hard for it then... 😂

[undone hawk]

DB miracliously made it so that I only had 30 seconds rather than 30 minutes to catch a train

They are true Wizards

[tight kelp]

lol

did they make a train come before it was due? Wtf?

[hardy wren]

nah

[undone hawk]

No

The other one Was late

[hardy wren]

the first train was just late

30 mins is nothing tho

i had 59 mins delay once

you only get money back after an hour or more delay tho

[undone hawk]

Just saying, 1 more Minute delay would have caused me to get there 4 hours later...

0:30 instead of 20:30

But I got the train

Than was the most time I ever almost lost in just one Minute I think

That*

[tight kelp]

i'll be honest, despite DB having its reputation, I have to say the situation in germany is better than what I left in Italy

you take things like having a train each hour going in each major direction for granted, and I would too, but don't underestimate it because it really isn't the standard everywhere ;)

i'm talking possibly having to wait 4 hours to get to a place less than 40km away just because the first train had a major delay

[undone hawk]

I'm not blaming the DB, I actually think they are doing quite a good job for all they have to manage

[placid osprey]

hey there, im looking for some advices for the college life in Germany. its opportunities etc i am planning on majoring English literature (with english language) in there but im still somewhat worried about the things;since i dont know anything about german language. Can someone inform me about the things i ve listed in above

[hidden briar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/studying

read that first

[crude thicket]

for the ZDF fees
can I pay them just by standard bank transfer from my bank?

or do I have to fill out this form they sent with their IBAN/BIC and fee

[exotic barn]

yes you can. More information can be found here: https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/zahlung/index_ger.html

[crude thicket]

ah brilliant thank you

[exotic barn]

[hollow knot]

anyone here experience with Telc C1 Hochschule

[fluid swallow]

Do you need to do anything special to move to a german high school?

Like to have some permissions or...?

[jade helm]

@fluid swallow obviously general permissions, like a visa, and depending on age and which school you attended before that it will be decided what type of school you will be placed in

education system in Germany is a little different from the high school and college system

[fluid swallow]

Is there anything more apart from visa?

[tight kelp]

he just told you, you'll need your previous education to be recognised to attest what level of school you'll have to attend

[fluid swallow]

Ok thanks

[exotic barn]

That's not correct. A few years ago Germany made it possible for anyone to attend any type of school

(Hauptschule, Realschule, Gesamtschule, Gymnasium)

Though this depends on your Bundesland
(https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehrerempfehlung)

[exotic barn]

A question for Germans and people living in Germany: I heard there’s a growing tendency of young people pronouncing -ig as -ik instead of -ich. Is that true?

[hardy wren]

yeah, because they read it like that and dont know that -ich is actually the standard

[exotic barn]

How do they not know the standard

[hardy wren]

nobody tells them that its standard and they think everyone around them pronounces it wrong or dialectal since its written with g and obviously that means its a stop, i mean, we arent dutch

[exotic barn]

You sure its not just berlin? I mean, you guys pronounce ich as ik 👀

[hardy wren]

not sure, but i guess it would explain why other areas could do the same

[exotic barn]

Yeah, sounds reasonable

@exotic barn @glass trench @bold quartz thoughts bitte?

I've never heard of that tendency

Do people still pronounce it -ich in your area?

ye

[glass trench]

^ agreed

[exotic barn]

Tbh, it was a teacher at uni who said that and i said it’s prolly just a thing in bayern but she didnt believe me

[compact slate]

most germans I know do the -ik

and they are mostly in the north

[hardy wren]

in the north the ik tendency is higher

[undone hawk]

Especially Berlin

[hardy wren]

id guess especially the regions near netherlands

[umbral shadow]

I see....

[exotic barn]

weird because im from the north and I've never heard anyone use the -ik form

[cold aspen]

Same

[pale saddle]

I live in the Netherlands and sometimes hop over to german regions close to there and I've never heard -ik

[exotic barn]

I believe it’s rather southern Germany and Berlin 👀

[pale saddle]

I mean in Austria there is just generally less distinction between hard consonants and their soft counterparts so k and g just generally sound very similar

At least from my experience

[glass crypt]

"ik"?

ist westdeutscher Muttersprachler

[mystic gale]

do you get at the end of the year of the oberstufe in a gymnasium the grades as they do in the last school year in the realschule?

Last year in the Realschule I had like 4 in maths and in the second one I had 1 and 4+1=5/2=2,5 but I got a 2 because I wrote 1 again in the zentrale prüfung

[glass crypt]

in oberstufe you calculate grades numerically with values between 1 and 15 points (15 being einsplus mit sternchen und kirsche obenauf)

idk about realschule